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Aug 25, 2015, 5:54 pm

Quote: Originally posted by JADELottery on Jul 4, 2015
We're reposting your reply from the topic How to simulate a distribution and use the lottery's own randomness against itself since this is the relevant topic.

We will get back to this a little later.

We are testing and finalizing a =DisimulateNexus(Numbers, Distribution, N₁, N₂) function for the other topic.

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Hello, Jade

You have made a great statistical work.
But the question is: what is this for?
Can you build a predictive algorithm from this knowledge?

Here's an example:
Take the Megaball, once again.

If the common player bet 1 number he will get 0.0666 hits per draw (1/15 = 0.0666). This is the REFERENCE or the so called Theoretical Average (TA).
My question is: using this system (3 sums) how many hits can you achieve per draw?

If after 100 samples, for example, you get 0.0666 hits a draw, then there is no advantage to follow it;

If you get a higher value means you can beat the TA so, in this case you are predicting;

finally, If you get a lower value you are also predicting because, in this case, you may bet against the algorithm.

However, I fear it is not possible to predict using this knowledge because there is a synchronizing problem, I mean, although similarities in simulated and real patterns, you need to synchronize your model with the reality of the game.
Several years ago when I started to develop predictive algorithms I lost a few hours or even days (I can`t remember exactly) with part of this same exercise you did and I quickly came to dead ends. However, you went a little bit further introducing simulated information.

But, I insist: is that enough to beat the odds, i.e. to get more than 0,0666 matches per drawing? If so, the system works.

But let`s see some obvious problems present in the 3 sums technique.

If the first 2 numbers of the sum are 1 + 1 + ... = 24 and knowing that the ideal sum of Megaball is 24, it means that the third number would be 22. Now, the ball 22 does not exist!!!

In the case of the first 2 numbers are 15+13+…= 24 the third number would be -4. However, Megaball does not contain negative numbers. Therefore, a brief review finds that there are dozens of black cases where the system does not work, because there are no enough numbers.

But the real problem is to construct predictive algorithms based on Euclidian maths when the reality is fractal. We can not fight fractal maths with Euclidian ou Gaussian maths. That is the reason why is so difficult to predict...

That is like fighting a war tank with a plastic revolver.

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Aug 28, 2015, 2:16 pm

interesting activity goings on after introduction of this and How to simulate a distribution and use the lottery's own randomness against itself.

we'll have to monitor longer.

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Aug 29, 2015, 3:46 am

Yes.

But in this case you have to find or design a "bad system", I mean, a system that consistently underperforms, when comparing with the reference or Theoretical Average for the same amount of numbers.

But that is not easy. Actually, it is as difficult as to build a outperforming system....
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Quote: Originally posted by rentappredictor on Aug 29, 2015
Yes.

But in this case you have to find or design a "bad system", I mean, a system that consistently underperforms, when comparing with the reference or Theoretical Average for the same amount of numbers.

But that is not easy. Actually, it is as difficult as to build a outperforming system....

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Sep 11, 2015, 12:17 pm

Quote: Originally posted by JADELottery on Aug 28, 2015
interesting activity goings on after introduction of this and How to simulate a distribution and use the lottery's own randomness against itself.

we'll have to monitor longer.

still in a monitor phase.

interesting events goings on.

we see through the quantum fog.

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Sep 12, 2015, 6:01 am

Quote: Originally posted by JADELottery on Sep 11, 2015
still in a monitor phase.

interesting events goings on.

we see through the quantum fog.

Ok

tell us things when finished
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Sep 22, 2015, 1:52 pm

Would a deviation from the sum work?

Example:

Ill use a 37 ball game: use 37 minus the value of the digit.

1 5 8 9 21.

2 6 9 13 31

7 11 18 23 29

The first line 36,32,29,28,16.

2nd line. 35,31,28,24,6

3rd line. 30,26,19,14,8.

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Oct 20, 2015, 2:58 pm

2D seems to be working, but needs more testing.

Also, wouldn't it be great to extend into 4 Sum, 5 Sum, maybe up to 11 Sums.

Meaning, using the past 4, 5 or up to 11 draws to Quantum Select the next draw.

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Oct 21, 2015, 12:17 pm

Example for hotlotto?

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Quote: Originally posted by lakerben on Oct 21, 2015

Example for hotlotto?

Doing Sums for the Pick 5 part of Hot Lotto is Monstrous.

Most computers can't handle the computations.

We can post it for the Hot Ball out to a Sum of 5 different numbers.

Hot Lotto Hot Ball Sums Frequency for 1 to 5
Sums	Sum 1	Sum 2	Sum 3	Sum 4	Sum 5
1	1	·	·	·	·
2	1	1	·	·	·
3	1	2	1	·	·
4	1	3	3	1	·
5	1	4	6	4	1
6	1	5	10	10	5
7	1	6	15	20	15
8	1	7	21	35	35
9	1	8	28	56	70
10	1	9	36	84	126
11	1	10	45	120	210
12	1	11	55	165	330
13	1	12	66	220	495
14	1	13	78	286	715
15	1	14	91	364	1001
16	1	15	105	455	1365
17	1	16	120	560	1820
18	1	17	136	680	2380
19	1	18	153	816	3060
20	·	19	171	969	3876
21	·	18	190	1140	4845
22	·	17	207	1330	5985
23	·	16	222	1536	7315
24	·	15	235	1755	8850
25	·	14	246	1984	10601
26	·	13	255	2220	12575
27	·	12	262	2460	14775
28	·	11	267	2701	17200
29	·	10	270	2940	19845
30	·	9	271	3174	22701
31	·	8	270	3400	25755
32	·	7	267	3615	28990
33	·	6	262	3816	32385
34	·	5	255	4000	35915
35	·	4	246	4164	39551
36	·	3	235	4305	43260
37	·	2	222	4420	47005
38	·	1	207	4506	50745
39	·	·	190	4560	54435
40	·	·	171	4579	58026
41	·	·	153	4560	61465
42	·	·	136	4506	64695
43	·	·	120	4420	67665
44	·	·	105	4305	70330
45	·	·	91	4164	72651
46	·	·	78	4000	74595
47	·	·	66	3816	76135
48	·	·	55	3615	77250
49	·	·	45	3400	77925
50	·	·	36	3174	78151
51	·	·	28	2940	77925
52	·	·	21	2701	77250
53	·	·	15	2460	76135
54	·	·	10	2220	74595
55	·	·	6	1984	72651
56	·	·	3	1755	70330
57	·	·	1	1536	67665
58	·	·	·	1330	64695
59	·	·	·	1140	61465
60	·	·	·	969	58026
61	·	·	·	816	54435
62	·	·	·	680	50745
63	·	·	·	560	47005
64	·	·	·	455	43260
65	·	·	·	364	39551
66	·	·	·	286	35915
67	·	·	·	220	32385
68	·	·	·	165	28990
69	·	·	·	120	25755
70	·	·	·	84	22701
71	·	·	·	56	19845
72	·	·	·	35	17200
73	·	·	·	20	14775
74	·	·	·	10	12575
75	·	·	·	4	10601
76	·	·	·	1	8850
77	·	·	·	·	7315
78	·	·	·	·	5985
79	·	·	·	·	4845
80	·	·	·	·	3876
81	·	·	·	·	3060
82	·	·	·	·	2380
83	·	·	·	·	1820
84	·	·	·	·	1365
85	·	·	·	·	1001
86	·	·	·	·	715
87	·	·	·	·	495
88	·	·	·	·	330
89	·	·	·	·	210
90	·	·	·	·	126
91	·	·	·	·	70
92	·	·	·	·	35
93	·	·	·	·	15
94	·	·	·	·	5
95	·	·	·	·	1

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Nov 17, 2015, 7:11 pm

Quote: Originally posted by JADELottery on Oct 21, 2015

Doing Sums for the Pick 5 part of Hot Lotto is Monstrous.

Most computers can't handle the computations.

We can post it for the Hot Ball out to a Sum of 5 different numbers.

Hot Lotto Hot Ball Sums Frequency for 1 to 5
Sums	Sum 1	Sum 2	Sum 3	Sum 4	Sum 5
1	1	·	·	·	·
2	1	1	·	·	·
3	1	2	1	·	·
4	1	3	3	1	·
5	1	4	6	4	1
6	1	5	10	10	5
7	1	6	15	20	15
8	1	7	21	35	35
9	1	8	28	56	70
10	1	9	36	84	126
11	1	10	45	120	210
12	1	11	55	165	330
13	1	12	66	220	495
14	1	13	78	286	715
15	1	14	91	364	1001
16	1	15	105	455	1365
17	1	16	120	560	1820
18	1	17	136	680	2380
19	1	18	153	816	3060
20	·	19	171	969	3876
21	·	18	190	1140	4845
22	·	17	207	1330	5985
23	·	16	222	1536	7315
24	·	15	235	1755	8850
25	·	14	246	1984	10601
26	·	13	255	2220	12575
27	·	12	262	2460	14775
28	·	11	267	2701	17200
29	·	10	270	2940	19845
30	·	9	271	3174	22701
31	·	8	270	3400	25755
32	·	7	267	3615	28990
33	·	6	262	3816	32385
34	·	5	255	4000	35915
35	·	4	246	4164	39551
36	·	3	235	4305	43260
37	·	2	222	4420	47005
38	·	1	207	4506	50745
39	·	·	190	4560	54435
40	·	·	171	4579	58026
41	·	·	153	4560	61465
42	·	·	136	4506	64695
43	·	·	120	4420	67665
44	·	·	105	4305	70330
45	·	·	91	4164	72651
46	·	·	78	4000	74595
47	·	·	66	3816	76135
48	·	·	55	3615	77250
49	·	·	45	3400	77925
50	·	·	36	3174	78151
51	·	·	28	2940	77925
52	·	·	21	2701	77250
53	·	·	15	2460	76135
54	·	·	10	2220	74595
55	·	·	6	1984	72651
56	·	·	3	1755	70330
57	·	·	1	1536	67665
58	·	·	·	1330	64695
59	·	·	·	1140	61465
60	·	·	·	969	58026
61	·	·	·	816	54435
62	·	·	·	680	50745
63	·	·	·	560	47005
64	·	·	·	455	43260
65	·	·	·	364	39551
66	·	·	·	286	35915
67	·	·	·	220	32385
68	·	·	·	165	28990
69	·	·	·	120	25755
70	·	·	·	84	22701
71	·	·	·	56	19845
72	·	·	·	35	17200
73	·	·	·	20	14775
74	·	·	·	10	12575
75	·	·	·	4	10601
76	·	·	·	1	8850
77	·	·	·	·	7315
78	·	·	·	·	5985
79	·	·	·	·	4845
80	·	·	·	·	3876
81	·	·	·	·	3060
82	·	·	·	·	2380
83	·	·	·	·	1820
84	·	·	·	·	1365
85	·	·	·	·	1001
86	·	·	·	·	715
87	·	·	·	·	495
88	·	·	·	·	330
89	·	·	·	·	210
90	·	·	·	·	126
91	·	·	·	·	70
92	·	·	·	·	35
93	·	·	·	·	15
94	·	·	·	·	5
95	·	·	·	·	1

Keep up the great work!

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Dec 9, 2015, 1:39 pm

Quote: Originally posted by lakerben on Nov 17, 2015
Keep up the great work!

I'll use for today.

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Quote: Originally posted by lakerben on Dec 9, 2015
I'll use for today.

Reads Good.

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Thanks for all your work this year!

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Quote: Originally posted by lakerben on Dec 24, 2015
Thanks for all your work this year!

You are welcome.

Have a lucky new year.

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