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Does the lottery accept the photo copy?

Yes

[ 5 ]

[ 18.5% ]

[ 22 ]

[ 81.5% ]

Total valid votes

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Discarded votes

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Candlelight777

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Jan 24, 2016, 10:32 am

My lottery has verbally told me that the answer would be NO. You must present the actual ticket and only after scanning the bar code is it deemed an authentic winning lottery ticket.

"Without wood a fire goes out; without gossip, conflict calms down.

Like adding charcoal to embers or wood to fire, quarrelsome people kindle strife."

Proverbs 26: 20-21
SilverLion

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Jan 24, 2016, 11:29 am

I said Maybe.

Because perhaps I did scan it. The bar code on the copy is still valid.

If i get robbed and then stabbed and I go to the claims office and I am bleeding on the floor, and I declare my ticket "taken", to prevent the cashing of it, but I

have a copy to show I purchased it, then maybe the Lottery Commission will have a heart.

Do people in the Lottery commission have hearts when their state uses RNG?
SoleWinner21

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Jan 24, 2016, 11:53 am

Quote: Originally posted by SilverLion on Jan 24, 2016
I said Maybe.

Because perhaps I did scan it. The bar code on the copy is still valid.

If i get robbed and then stabbed and I go to the claims office and I am bleeding on the floor, and I declare my ticket "taken", to prevent the cashing of it, but I

have a copy to show I purchased it, then maybe the Lottery Commission will have a heart.

Do people in the Lottery commission have hearts when their state uses RNG?

Lotto officials having a heart.
Coin Toss

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Jan 24, 2016, 12:04 pm

No is probably the right answer.

Changes were made to US paper currency as printers got more and more advanced.

Remember the recent billion and a half dollar jackpot and the clowns that were claiming to be the winner and posting bogus tickets on the internet?

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
Candlelight777

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Jan 24, 2016, 12:29 pm

Quote: Originally posted by SilverLion on Jan 24, 2016
I said Maybe.

Because perhaps I did scan it. The bar code on the copy is still valid.

If i get robbed and then stabbed and I go to the claims office and I am bleeding on the floor, and I declare my ticket "taken", to prevent the cashing of it, but I

have a copy to show I purchased it, then maybe the Lottery Commission will have a heart.

Do people in the Lottery commission have hearts when their state uses RNG?

For some reason it's not quoting in my reply.....anyway Silverlion

Original Post by SilverLion

I said Maybe.

Because perhaps I did scan it. The bar code on the copy is still valid.

If i get robbed and then stabbed and I go to the claims office and I am bleeding on the floor, and I declare my ticket "taken", to prevent the cashing of it, but I

have a copy to show I purchased it, then maybe the Lottery Commission will have a heart.

Do people in the Lottery commission have hearts when their state uses RNG?

...At the end of the day...the person with the ticket i believe is the winner. Look at this past PB drawing..one of the winners was gifted a ticket by her employer. The employer could have made copies of the tickets and if one was the JP winner could have claimed they owned the ticket and the cameras would have shown they purchased the ticket....but they are not the one with the ticket in their possession though. Many people bought lottery tickets and gifted the ticket to others...heck even a bakery i believe it was gifted a lottery ticket with x amount of purchase at their place of business. Whoever is the one holding the ticket and the ticket scans legit is the winner and this is why...way too many variables to sort through and the only way to avoid those variables is deeming the one in possession of the ticket as the winner.

"Without wood a fire goes out; without gossip, conflict calms down.

Like adding charcoal to embers or wood to fire, quarrelsome people kindle strife."

Proverbs 26: 20-21
RJOh

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Jan 24, 2016, 1:08 pm

Just having the winning ticket is not enough if an investigation brings up questions.

* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
crazyjaney

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Jan 24, 2016, 1:30 pm

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Jan 24, 2016
Just having the winning ticket is not enough if an investigation brings up questions.

wWhich is a great point. How many of y'all get a receipt when buying tickets? I usually do. Just wondering.

Not sure how much having a cash reciept will help but it can't hurt.
LiveInGreenBay

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Jan 24, 2016, 1:33 pm

In Wisconsin, a person can mail the signed ticket to the lottery office. (I guess for smaller winnings most people would do that rather than drive a hundred miles or so). The lottery suggests (if people mail their ticket in) to make a photocopy of it. So I would guess a photocopy of a ticket with the bar code would be valid. I voted yes.

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Candlelight777

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Jan 24, 2016, 2:17 pm

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Jan 24, 2016
Just having the winning ticket is not enough if an investigation brings up questions.

"Original Post by RJOh

Just having the winning ticket is not enough if an investigation brings up questions."

That situation would have to provide very rare and extraordinary circumstances of evidence to over come why one is in possession of a lottery ticket and another is not. I am not saying it hasn't happened, but it would be very hard to over come he said she said in such cases...very hard. Just because a camera showed you purchased it is not enough because it is legal to gift tickets..as we saw in this recent PB drawing by employers and businesses and amongst friends. We saw a lot of that. Like i said, it would have to be very rare and extraordinary circumstances of evidence to over come such a claim proving another stole your ticket.

"Without wood a fire goes out; without gossip, conflict calms down.

Like adding charcoal to embers or wood to fire, quarrelsome people kindle strife."

Proverbs 26: 20-21
Candlelight777

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Jan 24, 2016, 2:20 pm

Original Post by LiveInGreenBay

In Wisconsin, a person can mail the signed ticket to the lottery office. (I guess for smaller winnings most people would do that rather than drive a hundred miles or so). The lottery suggests (if people mail their ticket in) to make a photocopy of it. So I would guess a photocopy of a ticket with the bar code would be valid. I voted yes.

From what i understand, large JP tickets must be claimed in person at the state lottery HQ's only..so mailing it in is not a option in my state.

"Without wood a fire goes out; without gossip, conflict calms down.

Like adding charcoal to embers or wood to fire, quarrelsome people kindle strife."

Proverbs 26: 20-21
LiveInGreenBay

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Jan 24, 2016, 3:18 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Candlelight777 on Jan 24, 2016
Original Post by LiveInGreenBay

In Wisconsin, a person can mail the signed ticket to the lottery office. (I guess for smaller winnings most people would do that rather than drive a hundred miles or so). The lottery suggests (if people mail their ticket in) to make a photocopy of it. So I would guess a photocopy of a ticket with the bar code would be valid. I voted yes.

From what i understand, large JP tickets must be claimed in person at the state lottery HQ's only..so mailing it in is not a option in my state.

Yea. Anyone who mails in a major jackpot ticket needs their head examined. LOL! However, I would still make a photo copy of that ticket and keep it in a safe place....Just in case.

Never give up.
KY Floyd

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Jan 24, 2016, 5:48 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Candlelight777 on Jan 24, 2016
My lottery has verbally told me that the answer would be NO. You must present the actual ticket and only after scanning the bar code is it deemed an authentic winning lottery ticket.

That sounds like the advice you should be relying on. At best a photocopy might prove that somebody stuck the ticket in a photocopier and you're in possession of a copy. I can't see what that would do to establish that you every had possession of the actual ticket or that you own the ticket and are entitled to the prize.

At the very least you're going to need other evidence if you've got any hope of collecting a prize.
JoshUK

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Jan 24, 2016, 6:26 pm

I'm not sure to be honest, maybe a photocopy would help in the event of a syndicate/pool dispute if you've signed it with the ticket holder?

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grwurston

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Jan 24, 2016, 7:53 pm

If you had a lottery pool where 10 people had photo copies of say 50 tickets and the winner was lost, all 10 could say they were the one that bought the tickets. Without store camera video proof, who is telling the truth?
Funtimz

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Jan 25, 2016, 7:18 am

...I said, No...Any reason for NYS to not to have to pay...

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