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meenzy

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Feb 7, 2016, 12:56 pm

"Don't form combinations in a mathematical sequence

So many people select their lottery numbers by choosing a small number and then selecting each subsequent number by adding the same value to it. For example, they start with a 04 and then add six to each number to get 04, 10, 16, 22, 28, 34 as their combination. Or they use squared numbers to come up with their combination - for example, 04, 09, 16, 25, 36, 49.

Don't do this.

Choosing numbers in this way won't increase your chances of winning, but the will increase your chances of taking home a sharply reduced prize if you do happen to win. Selecting numbers in mathematical patterns is extremely popular. That means you will share your prize with multiple winners, reducing the amount of money you will receive. You might win a $30 million jackpot, but if 5,000 people chose the same number, you'll be getting only $6,000.

Believe it, circumstances of multiple winners are not unusual. On June 7, 1986, the combination 08-15-22-29-36-43 was drawn - a combination in which each number was seven digits higher than the previous one. There were 14,697 winning tickets with that combination."

Please note these are not my outright views, I found this article and was curious what your thoughts where? One might say, 'I rather win something rather than nothing', I wonder if that is true? My thought is math has its place in number games because it can approximate physical limitations (as small as they may be) put on a physically operated lottery.

The question asked here is simply do the pros outweigh the cons in your personal lottery experiences/strategies?

P.S. I think I am more addicted to the LP conversations more than actually playing but hey.... what is a community for... if not great conversations.
LiveInGreenBay

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Feb 7, 2016, 1:18 pm

I wonder how many winners there would be if 1 2 3 4 5 6 came up?

Never give up.
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Feb 7, 2016, 2:13 pm

My numbers are really random. They aren't a system or equations. When I bought my first ticket for Powerball a few years back it went like this: My favorite #, 2 ages in my life that meant a lot to me, the route # I was driving on to get the ticket and the speed I was driving at the time I looked down. When I got there and needed a powerball # too I picked the first # on the ticket slip I saw. They are random lol

I've won a lot with that set, go figure. I buy it on multiple draws.

Then when the amount gets bigger my mom and I play together for a few tickets so I just picked those #s up today. Those are a mix of special #s she and I like and quick picks.

Nothing fancy.
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Feb 7, 2016, 2:25 pm

"My thought is math has its place in number games because it can approximate physical limitations (as small as they may be) put on a physically operated lottery."

Per Powerball website . . .

"About 70% to 80% of winners are computer picks."
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Feb 7, 2016, 2:25 pm
Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Feb 7, 2016

I wonder how many winners there would be if 1 2 3 4 5 6 came up?
It's funny you bring up 1-2-3-4-5-6.

Back in the days when it wasn't illegal to gamble at online casinos, I used to play Blackjack on one of them. They offered a once-a-week bonus game called "TIME2LOTTO" It was a lotto style game where they used the numbers drawn by the NYS lottery on Saturday nights. Depending on how many bonus points you earned while playing during the week determined how many bets you could make.

I had so many bonus points that I played 1-2-3-4-5-6, 2-3-4-5-6-7, 3-4-5-6-7-8 etc, etc until I got to the end and then played 52-53-54-1-2-3, 53-54-1-2-3-4...you get the idea. One week playing that, I won about $5,000

You picked 6 numbers out of a field of 54 numbers.

If you matched
- 1/6 number, you won $20,
- 2/6 numbers, you won $50
- 3/6 numbers, you won $100
- 4/6 numbers, you won $1000
- 5/6 numbers, you won $10,000
- 6/6 numbers, you won $100,000
The week NYS changed from 54 numbers to 59 numbers, it was the last time the online casino played this game. It was also the week I had not played as much as other times before and did not have enough bets to do my wrap-around bets. The numbers they selected was 1-2-3-4-5-6! I would have won: $123,470
- 1 x 6/6 = $100,000
- 2 x 5/6 = $20,000
- 3 x 4/6 = $3,000
- 5 x 2/6 = $250
- 6 x 1/6 = $120
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SergeM

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Feb 7, 2016, 2:42 pm

Quote: Originally posted by gy65 on Feb 7, 2016
"My thought is math has its place in number games because it can approximate physical limitations (as small as they may be) put on a physically operated lottery."

Per Powerball website . . .

"About 70% to 80% of winners are computer picks."

Millions of tickets may be sold. Percentage is a very rough number, and an average isn't worth much either.

There is more to it, that has not been discussed, I think, as usually and mostly superficial and enigmatic is king.
SergeM

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Feb 7, 2016, 2:45 pm
Quote: Originally posted by TheMeatman2005 on Feb 7, 2016
It's funny you bring up 1-2-3-4-5-6.

Back in the days when it wasn't illegal to gamble at online casinos, I used to play Blackjack on one of them. They offered a once-a-week bonus game called "TIME2LOTTO" It was a lotto style game where they used the numbers drawn by the NYS lottery on Saturday nights. Depending on how many bonus points you earned while playing during the week determined how many bets you could make.

I had so many bonus points that I played 1-2-3-4-5-6, 2-3-4-5-6-7, 3-4-5-6-7-8 etc, etc until I got to the end and then played 52-53-54-1-2-3, 53-54-1-2-3-4...you get the idea. One week playing that, I won about $5,000

You picked 6 numbers out of a field of 54 numbers.

If you matched
- 1/6 number, you won $20,
- 2/6 numbers, you won $50
- 3/6 numbers, you won $100
- 4/6 numbers, you won $1000
- 5/6 numbers, you won $10,000
- 6/6 numbers, you won $100,000
The week NYS changed from 54 numbers to 59 numbers, it was the last time the online casino played this game. It was also the week I had not played as much as other times before and did not have enough bets to do my wrap-around bets. The numbers they selected was 1-2-3-4-5-6! I would have won: $123,470
- 1 x 6/6 = $100,000
- 2 x 5/6 = $20,000
- 3 x 4/6 = $3,000
- 5 x 2/6 = $250
- 6 x 1/6 = $120
There may be stuff about programming that you don't know?
meenzy

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Feb 7, 2016, 4:05 pm

That is funny and sad at the same time! Those #'s shall be referred to from now on as "the numbers we do not speak of" and yes I have Harry Potter on the brain.
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Feb 7, 2016, 5:41 pm

Hi meenzy - et al

A couple of precepts that may be helpful to keep in mind:

Heisenberg Effect

Werner Heisenberg was a German theoretical physicist was a quantim forerunner saying that an event did not exist unless witnessed & when observed the event becomes changed

Also the physicist Werner Heisenberg declared that the universe is made of music not of matter

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"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality,they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality."
- Albert Einstein

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Feb 7, 2016, 9:01 pm

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Feb 7, 2016

I wonder how many winners there would be if 1 2 3 4 5 6 came up?

Six or Seven, I hear a few people play those numbers every drawings.

* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
GatorShea

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Feb 7, 2016, 9:06 pm

I bought one ticket for Saturday's drawing with the least 5 drawn numbers of all time. No surprise that none of them were drawn.
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Feb 7, 2016, 10:44 pm

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Feb 7, 2016

I wonder how many winners there would be if 1 2 3 4 5 6 came up?

So many that the people who got second prize would be better off than the ones who won the jackpot.
meenzy

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Feb 8, 2016, 10:31 am

I read another interesting article about consecutive numbers can hurt your chances in the end. The bases for it seems rather straight forward and I think I agree with it. Even though any number is likely, the chance that all consecutive numbers will draw are far less than non-consecutive numbers. The reasoning is there are far more non-consecutive combinations then there are consecutive. So not only do you have to split your winnings if you chose consecutive numbers but you have a decreased draw possibility as well. Interesting
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Feb 9, 2016, 9:42 am

Once again the winning lottery numbers are 01-02-03-04-05-06, there were no winners. Idiocracy (2006)

IMHO some simple strategies such as wheeling 12 numbers (12,6,4,6)=6 lines have an almost amazing odds reduction of having winning numbers among the 12 compared to among the 6.

BobP
meenzy

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Feb 9, 2016, 3:01 pm

hmm Good point sir.

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