British Columbia Lottery taking bets on US election

Jul 26, 2016, 8:13 am (6,450 comments)

British Columbia Lottery

Who says Canadians can't participate in US elections?

No, they can't vote in US elections, but Canadians can place bets on who is going to win.

The British Columbia Lottery Corporation has been taking bets on the 2016 U.S. election since early last year. It's become the most popular wager in an online gaming category the lottery calls "novelty betting."

The provincial lottery contracts with a global sportsbook based in Ireland to set the odds. BC Lottery spokesman Doug Cheng said the odds of a Donald Trump victory have improved since even last week, but the odds makers still favor a Hillary Clinton victory.

"Donald's Trump's odds are currently 37/20 — in other words, slightly under 2 to 1 — to become the next president," Cheng said. "To put it in perspective, he has closed the gap significantly as his initial odds in January 2015 were 100 to 1."

A $5 bet placed on the Democratic nominee Clinton on Monday would pay out $7.10 if she wins in November. The same bet placed on Republican nominee Trump would pay out $14.25 if he wins.

For at least a few more days, Cheng said Canadians can make a long-shot bet on Democrat Bernie Sanders at 59 to 1 odds.

If you're feeling lucky, know that the BC Lottery limits its U.S. election wagers to its own provincial residents over the age of 19.

"You can't bet, but you can definitely vote, which we can't do up here," Cheng said in telephone interview. "That's a trade-off I guess."

The BC Lottery is also taking bets on which political party will triumph in several key battleground states including Florida, North Carolina and Ohio.

"We have always paid a lot of attention to American elections because we are such close neighbors," Cheng said from Vancouver. "The media interest was really ramped up on this particular election. I think you see that reflected in the wagers we're taking on this novelty betting category. I think this really shows that people in B.C. are intently watching the U.S. election south of the border."

The provincial lotteries in Nova Scotia and Manitoba are also offering online wagers on the American presidential election.

Besides traditional state lottery games, the BCLC operates casinos and a sportsbook. British Columbians can bet on Seattle Seahawks and Seattle Mariners games as well as whether the Oregon Ducks, Washington Huskies or some other university team will win next season's college football championship. Bettors can also wager on who will win gold medals at the Rio 2016 Olympics among other things.

In the United States, online gambling is illegal as is betting on elections. Betting on the outcome of sports contests is legal in Nevada. Political betting has been offered in Britain for decades.

BC Lottery profits fund government services and grants to non-profits, much like state lotteries in the United States.

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Comments

mypiemaster's avatarmypiemaster

OH BOY!!! This thread will be very "interesting". Politics anyone?.

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

They know the fix is in ?!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Put your money on Trump.  KingofTax will appear in 3...2...1...

Albeone

Great article, great idea, have one place to dump the political crap and keep the other threads clean.

Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by Albeone on Jul 26, 2016

Great article, great idea, have one place to dump the political crap and keep the other threads clean.

Maybe will play their lottery numbers on Powerball...

sully16's avatarsully16

Went to my class reunion a couple weeks ago, many of the people there I have not seen since the 70's.

The hot topic was not politics, but how the world has changed , and how our kids are growing up .

My son was 2 when Islamic Terrorists flew planes into the world trade center, this is his world to adapt to .

He will never know what was like going to an airport, concert or Hockey game without being searched and scrutinized.

He is living with technology we never dreamed was possible.

Back in our day, the big argument was who's cuter, David Gilmour or Roger Taylor, now everything is an argument.

This Country has gone insane with political correctness, if you disagree, you get a label and depending on the topic, you could be Racist, bigot, hater, homophobe etc.

In our day we watched Little house on the Prairie, the Waltons or a family themed comedy/music show.

Now the TV is filled with reality shows, people in constant conflict, or people living lives that are not even close to real.

Survival shows top the lists.

I guess it doesn't matter who is elected, I was taught to survive long before these shows popped up.

I not only know how to grow food, I hunt, fish and can find food in the forest.

For my son's sake, for the world he has to grow up in, I want a leader who is willing to say and do the things we need, to keep us just a little safer.

Some things you can't control, but we need a leader who can make it harder for those who mean to harm us.

Trump has my vote. US Flag

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Bingo sully!  Things have changed a lot in the last 20 or so years and not all for the better.  Both parties are at fault, that's why I'm voting for the "outsider".   Now....Lets hit that powerball!

destinycreation

I am neither Republican nor Democrat.  I follow my conscience and vote Independent.  I vote how I "feel" based on what options I have to choose from.  I voted for the Bush family twice.  I supported the Bush War.  I also voted for Obama twice.  I decided last year in 2015 that I would never vote for Hillary Clinton.  I considered Donald Trump, until he started running a Hate campaign.  Thus, I have rejected Trump.  I considered Gary Johnson, but I don't agree with some of his political positions, and he seems to hedge on some issues.  I think he would change his mind back and forth like Trump does.  I considered Bernie Sanders, but he always comes across like an Angry, Old, "***" Man.  Talk about temperament.  By process of elimination and default, that leaves Jill Stein of the Green Party.  Thus, I will vote for Jill Stein for President in November 2016.  I know she won't win, but I will continue to follow my conscience and vote Independent of the norm, when I feel that it is necessary. 

If I lived in Canada and were betting on the next US President through the British Columbia Lottery Corporation, I would wager on Donald Trump to win, however, I would vote for Jill Stein for President.

ElinaSammy2081's avatarElinaSammy2081

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 26, 2016

Went to my class reunion a couple weeks ago, many of the people there I have not seen since the 70's.

The hot topic was not politics, but how the world has changed , and how our kids are growing up .

My son was 2 when Islamic Terrorists flew planes into the world trade center, this is his world to adapt to .

He will never know what was like going to an airport, concert or Hockey game without being searched and scrutinized.

He is living with technology we never dreamed was possible.

Back in our day, the big argument was who's cuter, David Gilmour or Roger Taylor, now everything is an argument.

This Country has gone insane with political correctness, if you disagree, you get a label and depending on the topic, you could be Racist, bigot, hater, homophobe etc.

In our day we watched Little house on the Prairie, the Waltons or a family themed comedy/music show.

Now the TV is filled with reality shows, people in constant conflict, or people living lives that are not even close to real.

Survival shows top the lists.

I guess it doesn't matter who is elected, I was taught to survive long before these shows popped up.

I not only know how to grow food, I hunt, fish and can find food in the forest.

For my son's sake, for the world he has to grow up in, I want a leader who is willing to say and do the things we need, to keep us just a little safer.

Some things you can't control, but we need a leader who can make it harder for those who mean to harm us.

Trump has my vote. US Flag

I Agree! I remember those days and cherish them. I wish my children could of experience how it was back than. It's so sad what is happening in our country. 

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 26, 2016

Went to my class reunion a couple weeks ago, many of the people there I have not seen since the 70's.

The hot topic was not politics, but how the world has changed , and how our kids are growing up .

My son was 2 when Islamic Terrorists flew planes into the world trade center, this is his world to adapt to .

He will never know what was like going to an airport, concert or Hockey game without being searched and scrutinized.

He is living with technology we never dreamed was possible.

Back in our day, the big argument was who's cuter, David Gilmour or Roger Taylor, now everything is an argument.

This Country has gone insane with political correctness, if you disagree, you get a label and depending on the topic, you could be Racist, bigot, hater, homophobe etc.

In our day we watched Little house on the Prairie, the Waltons or a family themed comedy/music show.

Now the TV is filled with reality shows, people in constant conflict, or people living lives that are not even close to real.

Survival shows top the lists.

I guess it doesn't matter who is elected, I was taught to survive long before these shows popped up.

I not only know how to grow food, I hunt, fish and can find food in the forest.

For my son's sake, for the world he has to grow up in, I want a leader who is willing to say and do the things we need, to keep us just a little safer.

Some things you can't control, but we need a leader who can make it harder for those who mean to harm us.

Trump has my vote. US Flag

Australia has very strong gun control laws: 0 mass shootings each year.

The US has no gun control laws: hundreds of mass shootings each year. 

Pretty clear what the President and congress would need to do.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Jul 26, 2016

I am neither Republican nor Democrat.  I follow my conscience and vote Independent.  I vote how I "feel" based on what options I have to choose from.  I voted for the Bush family twice.  I supported the Bush War.  I also voted for Obama twice.  I decided last year in 2015 that I would never vote for Hillary Clinton.  I considered Donald Trump, until he started running a Hate campaign.  Thus, I have rejected Trump.  I considered Gary Johnson, but I don't agree with some of his political positions, and he seems to hedge on some issues.  I think he would change his mind back and forth like Trump does.  I considered Bernie Sanders, but he always comes across like an Angry, Old, "***" Man.  Talk about temperament.  By process of elimination and default, that leaves Jill Stein of the Green Party.  Thus, I will vote for Jill Stein for President in November 2016.  I know she won't win, but I will continue to follow my conscience and vote Independent of the norm, when I feel that it is necessary. 

If I lived in Canada and were betting on the next US President through the British Columbia Lottery Corporation, I would wager on Donald Trump to win, however, I would vote for Jill Stein for President.

I Agree! With your second paragraph

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by mypiemaster on Jul 26, 2016

OH BOY!!! This thread will be very "interesting". Politics anyone?.

No doubt- after Todd cleaned house of politics than invaded a thread a little while ago, this should please those who are into politics big time. 

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 26, 2016

Australia has very strong gun control laws: 0 mass shootings each year.

The US has no gun control laws: hundreds of mass shootings each year. 

Pretty clear what the President and congress would need to do.

They still have violent crimes despite the gun buy back program, murder is murder, you don't need a gun.

Move there, If you don't like it here then leave.

Since your Mister History, tell all the good folks why Japan never invaded us after they bombed Pearl Harbor.

The Emperor wanted a ground invasion until he was told everyone  here has a gun.

You are so willing to give up your rights...You are willing to become a subject instead of a citizen.

You want other peoples rights to be taken away, you can't see they are also yours.

You are not a survivor.

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 26, 2016

Australia has very strong gun control laws: 0 mass shootings each year.

The US has no gun control laws: hundreds of mass shootings each year. 

Pretty clear what the President and congress would need to do.

The US has hundreds of mass shootings each year?  Please go ahead and choose one year and run down the "hundreds" of mass shootings that occurred.

And to say that Australia has no mass shootings is wrong, sorry to burst your bubble.

Besides, if there're no guns available, murderers and terrorists just find another way to kill people.  The 84 killed in France by the truck driver terrorist is just one example. 

The only thing a gun ban does is take guns out of the common law-abiding citizens' hands.  Makes people easy pickings for murderers and terrorists.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 26, 2016

They still have violent crimes despite the gun buy back program, murder is murder, you don't need a gun.

Move there, If you don't like it here then leave.

Since your Mister History, tell all the good folks why Japan never invaded us after they bombed Pearl Harbor.

The Emperor wanted a ground invasion until he was told everyone  here has a gun.

You are so willing to give up your rights...You are willing to become a subject instead of a citizen.

You want other peoples rights to be taken away, you can't see they are also yours.

You are not a survivor.

You think i play the lottery to win $4? The whole point of me playing the lottery is to get enough money to abandon the United States (although Portland is my fav place in the US) and move to one of five countries (Australia, New Zealand, Canada,Britain or Israel).

The whole point of Pearl Harbor was to delay the US buildup as they bogged down in China and couldn't spare much men to fight the US. You love to spew whatever nonsense you read on " Totally Legitimate Lizard People Network".

ANTONIO1109's avatarANTONIO1109

Sully I'm surprised that you have weighed in this on this thread. I think you should have kept that to yourself. And now that you have weighed in it shows what your political affiliation is and it also will show that you and your party and people like you don't understand the everyday Americans who gets looked down upon by the millionaires and billionaries and it will not fly with the American people.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Jul 26, 2016

The US has hundreds of mass shootings each year?  Please go ahead and choose one year and run down the "hundreds" of mass shootings that occurred.

And to say that Australia has no mass shootings is wrong, sorry to burst your bubble.

Besides, if there're no guns available, murderers and terrorists just find another way to kill people.  The 84 killed in France by the truck driver terrorist is just one example. 

The only thing a gun ban does is take guns out of the common law-abiding citizens' hands.  Makes people easy pickings for murderers and terrorists.

From the start of 2016 to today there have been 207 mass shootings 

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/ 

No mass shootings in Australia in 20 years

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/no-mass-shootings-australia-20-years-how-did-they-do-n597091

gun bans are stupid, we need real gun control 

one gun shop per congressional district, you must use the one in your district

You must show verified proof of identity, including your birth certificate, passport, and licence

Ban all non-citizens, those with any criminal record,  and those under 21 from buying a gun

100% tax on all firearms and bullets 

  Mandatory 60 day waiting period for each gun purchased.

Mandatory 3 visits to atleast 2 psychiatrists who will verify you are mentally capable of owning a gun at your own expense

No more than 20 rounds can be purchased by an individual

If bringing a weapon outside your district, you must notify the law enforcement in the area you are going to.

Terrorism kills almost no one in comparison to "regular" criminals and mass shooters. The more difficult you make buying it, the less likely they'll be able to get one. 

I know it'll never happen but this would end gun violence as we know it.

Long Odds

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Jul 26, 2016

I am neither Republican nor Democrat.  I follow my conscience and vote Independent.  I vote how I "feel" based on what options I have to choose from.  I voted for the Bush family twice.  I supported the Bush War.  I also voted for Obama twice.  I decided last year in 2015 that I would never vote for Hillary Clinton.  I considered Donald Trump, until he started running a Hate campaign.  Thus, I have rejected Trump.  I considered Gary Johnson, but I don't agree with some of his political positions, and he seems to hedge on some issues.  I think he would change his mind back and forth like Trump does.  I considered Bernie Sanders, but he always comes across like an Angry, Old, "***" Man.  Talk about temperament.  By process of elimination and default, that leaves Jill Stein of the Green Party.  Thus, I will vote for Jill Stein for President in November 2016.  I know she won't win, but I will continue to follow my conscience and vote Independent of the norm, when I feel that it is necessary. 

If I lived in Canada and were betting on the next US President through the British Columbia Lottery Corporation, I would wager on Donald Trump to win, however, I would vote for Jill Stein for President.

I admire what I perceive as your stated desire to vote your conscience after discernment. Presumably, part of your decision making process includes informing yourself in an unbiased manner- after all isn't that the great banner of the "independent" voter, that they are the only group able to cut through the Republican and Democrat party claptrap to make an intelligent voting choice. What baffles me is that you label Trump as running a "Hate campaign"; talk about falling into the trap of the crap that the media and Democrat party always place upon the Republican nominee, no matter who it is and which election cycle it is. Seems to me that a critique of Trump may rightfully lead one to conclude that he is not a tried and true Republican and/or that his positions on many issues seem to have evolved/changed over time, but hateful?  Everyone recognizes that America has millions of foreign born persons living here without legal status; Trump is a hater because he has stated his desire to stop this illegal action for future persons that would disregard American immigration laws and to also punish in some manner those that are already here illegally? If you are a country without enforceable borders and enforceable laws, what kind of country are you? Further, his stated position to thoroughly vet refugees to insure to the best of our ability that we are not allowing anyone into the country that would cause us harm is hateful?  I wish you success in your quest to make an intelligent voting choice but it is my opinion you have more work to do to arrive at an unbiased choice.

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 26, 2016

From the start of 2016 to today there have been 207 mass shootings 

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/ 

No mass shootings in Australia in 20 years

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/no-mass-shootings-australia-20-years-how-did-they-do-n597091

gun bans are stupid, we need real gun control 

one gun shop per congressional district, you must use the one in your district

You must show verified proof of identity, including your birth certificate, passport, and licence

Ban all non-citizens, those with any criminal record,  and those under 21 from buying a gun

100% tax on all firearms and bullets 

  Mandatory 60 day waiting period for each gun purchased.

Mandatory 3 visits to atleast 2 psychiatrists who will verify you are mentally capable of owning a gun at your own expense

No more than 20 rounds can be purchased by an individual

If bringing a weapon outside your district, you must notify the law enforcement in the area you are going to.

Terrorism kills almost no one in comparison to "regular" criminals and mass shooters. The more difficult you make buying it, the less likely they'll be able to get one. 

I know it'll never happen but this would end gun violence as we know it.

That anti-gun website does not follow the common definition of a mass shooting, and is simply propaganda for anti-gun people.  Like you.

Hopefully you don't face a murderer on your front porch while waiting 60 days for your firearm.  Because the murderer didn't have to wait when they got their illegal firearm.

All of the various things in your post are stepping stones to a complete ban.  Not happening in this country.  Deal with it.

bigbear29

Put your money on Hillary.  Hillary has the Hispanic, Black and White (except for some of the male white voters) voters.  Even corporations are pulling away from trump.  There was no one special at the RNC convention, oh wait, Scott Baio (chachi) was there.

Bleudog101

I hate politics on LP and this story is really stirring up the hornet's nest.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 26, 2016

From the start of 2016 to today there have been 207 mass shootings 

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/ 

No mass shootings in Australia in 20 years

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/no-mass-shootings-australia-20-years-how-did-they-do-n597091

gun bans are stupid, we need real gun control 

one gun shop per congressional district, you must use the one in your district

You must show verified proof of identity, including your birth certificate, passport, and licence

Ban all non-citizens, those with any criminal record,  and those under 21 from buying a gun

100% tax on all firearms and bullets 

  Mandatory 60 day waiting period for each gun purchased.

Mandatory 3 visits to atleast 2 psychiatrists who will verify you are mentally capable of owning a gun at your own expense

No more than 20 rounds can be purchased by an individual

If bringing a weapon outside your district, you must notify the law enforcement in the area you are going to.

Terrorism kills almost no one in comparison to "regular" criminals and mass shooters. The more difficult you make buying it, the less likely they'll be able to get one. 

I know it'll never happen but this would end gun violence as we know it.

I have the solution...Anyone who uses a gun in a criminal act and takes a life should receive the death penalty.  And it should be carried out within two weeks.  That would solve the repeat offender problem.  Had a gun in my home for years and it hasn't shot anyone yet.  Looks like we have a people problem not a gun problem huh?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Jul 26, 2016

Put your money on Hillary.  Hillary has the Hispanic, Black and White (except for some of the male white voters) voters.  Even corporations are pulling away from trump.  There was no one special at the RNC convention, oh wait, Scott Baio (chachi) was there.

Keep smoking that weed bigbear.  Crazy

noise-gate

As a friend of mine jokingly says " Guns are too loud. I prefer a machete. No 60 days background check waiting period."

bigbear29

Sorry, my smoking days are over.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Jul 26, 2016

Sorry, my smoking days are over.

Haha...So are mine.

bigbear29

Somedays, LiveInGreenBay, I wish it was not over.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Jul 26, 2016

Somedays, LiveInGreenBay, I wish it was not over.

Yea, but we're smarter than that now.

faber98

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 26, 2016

From the start of 2016 to today there have been 207 mass shootings 

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/ 

No mass shootings in Australia in 20 years

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/no-mass-shootings-australia-20-years-how-did-they-do-n597091

gun bans are stupid, we need real gun control 

one gun shop per congressional district, you must use the one in your district

You must show verified proof of identity, including your birth certificate, passport, and licence

Ban all non-citizens, those with any criminal record,  and those under 21 from buying a gun

100% tax on all firearms and bullets 

  Mandatory 60 day waiting period for each gun purchased.

Mandatory 3 visits to atleast 2 psychiatrists who will verify you are mentally capable of owning a gun at your own expense

No more than 20 rounds can be purchased by an individual

If bringing a weapon outside your district, you must notify the law enforcement in the area you are going to.

Terrorism kills almost no one in comparison to "regular" criminals and mass shooters. The more difficult you make buying it, the less likely they'll be able to get one. 

I know it'll never happen but this would end gun violence as we know it.

every graduating high school student should be given "free of charge" not one but two guns. now that is real gun control.

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by Long Odds on Jul 26, 2016

I admire what I perceive as your stated desire to vote your conscience after discernment. Presumably, part of your decision making process includes informing yourself in an unbiased manner- after all isn't that the great banner of the "independent" voter, that they are the only group able to cut through the Republican and Democrat party claptrap to make an intelligent voting choice. What baffles me is that you label Trump as running a "Hate campaign"; talk about falling into the trap of the crap that the media and Democrat party always place upon the Republican nominee, no matter who it is and which election cycle it is. Seems to me that a critique of Trump may rightfully lead one to conclude that he is not a tried and true Republican and/or that his positions on many issues seem to have evolved/changed over time, but hateful?  Everyone recognizes that America has millions of foreign born persons living here without legal status; Trump is a hater because he has stated his desire to stop this illegal action for future persons that would disregard American immigration laws and to also punish in some manner those that are already here illegally? If you are a country without enforceable borders and enforceable laws, what kind of country are you? Further, his stated position to thoroughly vet refugees to insure to the best of our ability that we are not allowing anyone into the country that would cause us harm is hateful?  I wish you success in your quest to make an intelligent voting choice but it is my opinion you have more work to do to arrive at an unbiased choice.

I actually agree with Trump about the Immigration problem, both as it pertains to the Middle East and the Mexican/American border.  However, Trump has sabotaged his own public image, calling his character into question. I also question whether or not some of his new policy ideas can pass through both the Congress and the Senate, or is he going to experience serious "stonewall" like previous Presidents.  [We already know the answer to this.]  The job of US President is a serious Reality Check for anyone. 

As long as he doesn't come up with some STUPID Idea that affects the American State Lotteries, I suppose we will have to suffer through 4 years of President Trump. 

One thing that does concern me though, is his idea to cut back on funding to the US Department of Education.  A lot of college students depend on Federal Financial Aid to attend College.  Not every state is using money from the state lottery to fund student college tuition  to the extent that they should or could.  In some states like SC, lottery funding only kicks in after certain types of Federal Financial Aid or other State Financial Aid, and lottery money can only be used for certain college expenses, not for any or everything related to college.

The following comes from a local College website [Community College] pertaining to the use of Lottery Money to fund College Tuition Expenses:

"The amount you can use toward tuition and fee charges is based on the amount of these charges remaining on your account after Federal Pell Grant, FSEOG, SCNBG and NGCAP have been applied to your student account. If you receive a LIFE Scholarship or a tuition waiver, you will not receive LTAP. If your tuition and fees are paid by VA, you will not receive the LTAP award. [LTAP = Lottery Tuition Assistance Program]

  • LTAP will be applied to your student account before any SCC scholarship, outside scholarship or Federal Direct Loan award(s) so that you can use these award(s) for books or receive a cash disbursement.
  • LTAP cannot be used for books, supplies or be disbursed to you by check.
  • Award amounts are determined by the State each semester and are subject to change."

 

Bullet points #1 & #2 seem to contradict each other. 

In the city where I live at, for some reason [???], only the local Community Colleges are receiving State Lottery Assistance.  The local 4 year Colleges are Not.

 

In any case, if Federal College funding is cut, where does that leave the states and students who cannot otherwise afford a College Education.

I really don't think Donald Trump has given some of his ideas any in depth contemplation.  He is only looking at the "larger picture" [Balance the Budget], but we live our lives by "daily snapshots" of the larger picture, and each person's larger picture is DIFFERENT.

Donald Trump could potentially ruin the "larger picture" for students who can't afford a College Education without Federal Financial Aid, b/c state lottery assisted funding for College is suspect in some states.

MaximumMillions

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Jul 26, 2016

The sky-is-falling junk commentary about Trump is similar to the he's-dangerous junk commentary that Reagan received during the 1980 campaign vs. Carter.  (For those of us old enough to remember that.)

It's ironic that all the people going around saying how "scary" Trump is are the very people doing the fear mongering themselves.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Jul 26, 2016

The sky-is-falling junk commentary about Trump is similar to the he's-dangerous junk commentary that Reagan received during the 1980 campaign vs. Carter.  (For those of us old enough to remember that.)

It's ironic that all the people going around saying how "scary" Trump is are the very people doing the fear mongering themselves.

Personally, I'm not fear-mongering, I'm observing.

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Jul 26, 2016

Personally, I'm not fear-mongering, I'm observing.

No, posting that junk commentary tweet was fear mongering.  If you were observing you would have read it without re-posting it here.  You are participating.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Jul 26, 2016

No, posting that junk commentary tweet was fear mongering.  If you were observing you would have read it without re-posting it here.  You are participating.

Todd, you are very Doloris Umbridge today. No fun.Poke

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Jul 26, 2016

Todd, you are very Doloris Umbridge today. No fun.Poke

At least you didn't call me Voldemort.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Jul 26, 2016

At least you didn't call me Voldemort.

Shhhh, we don't say his name Wink

noise-gate

Trump is by far the greatest Teflon candidate for president we have ever seen.Lesser politicians would have been history for saying the following:

We Need a Wall. McCain is no hero.

Say what you will,  the guy has a pair.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Don't worry Mr,Trump is going to WIN BIG I Agree! Hurray! PartyPatriotUS Flag

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Jul 26, 2016

Don't worry Mr,Trump is going to WIN BIG I Agree! Hurray! PartyPatriotUS Flag

Convential wisdom says " if a person tells you not to worry, it's best to prepare yourself to do just that : worry. The Russians told the world " don't worry, we have the Chernobyl Nuclear site under control..

Don't worry - right!

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 26, 2016

You think i play the lottery to win $4? The whole point of me playing the lottery is to get enough money to abandon the United States (although Portland is my fav place in the US) and move to one of five countries (Australia, New Zealand, Canada,Britain or Israel).

The whole point of Pearl Harbor was to delay the US buildup as they bogged down in China and couldn't spare much men to fight the US. You love to spew whatever nonsense you read on " Totally Legitimate Lizard People Network".

If you really want out that bad

you could take a bus to Canada...don't need a lottery win for that.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Jul 26, 2016

Don't worry Mr,Trump is going to WIN BIG I Agree! Hurray! PartyPatriotUS Flag

Omg. For once I agree with you.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Jul 26, 2016

The sky-is-falling junk commentary about Trump is similar to the he's-dangerous junk commentary that Reagan received during the 1980 campaign vs. Carter.  (For those of us old enough to remember that.)

It's ironic that all the people going around saying how "scary" Trump is are the very people doing the fear mongering themselves.

A perfect response. Reagan was unfairly demonized.

 

 We have this woman in my office who does zero work all day  and posts vile anti Trump statements on Twitter all day long while telling us how hip and liberal she is. And no, she is not young and everyone hates her since she is the biggest bigot of all. Yet I would never consider posting things about Hillary.

And I know the tide has turned when another ranting neighbor at my bus stop could not even speak when she saw the most recent Trump polls.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by ANTONIO1109 on Jul 26, 2016

Sully I'm surprised that you have weighed in this on this thread. I think you should have kept that to yourself. And now that you have weighed in it shows what your political affiliation is and it also will show that you and your party and people like you don't understand the everyday Americans who gets looked down upon by the millionaires and billionaries and it will not fly with the American people.

LOL Guess you haven't been here long enough to know me, most know I am conservative.

I understand everyday people very well, I know many millionaires , most are self made and have hearts of gold and are very generous. Yes, some people are very snobby, poor people are snotty mean and rude as well. Depends on how you were raised.

You have a biased media pounding the Class wars into your head. You are here because you want to win the lottery and become rich, will it change who you are?

Good rule of thumb, never judge a book by it's bank account and if you really want to soil yourself, go read my blogs.

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Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 26, 2016

You think i play the lottery to win $4? The whole point of me playing the lottery is to get enough money to abandon the United States (although Portland is my fav place in the US) and move to one of five countries (Australia, New Zealand, Canada,Britain or Israel).

The whole point of Pearl Harbor was to delay the US buildup as they bogged down in China and couldn't spare much men to fight the US. You love to spew whatever nonsense you read on " Totally Legitimate Lizard People Network".

They couldn't spare much men, The South Pacific was loaded with Japanese soldiers, Pearl Harbor is was got us into the war, we actually helped China and everyone else.

Please, tell me why they attacked us in the first place, can't wait the hear this.

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Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 26, 2016

You think i play the lottery to win $4? The whole point of me playing the lottery is to get enough money to abandon the United States (although Portland is my fav place in the US) and move to one of five countries (Australia, New Zealand, Canada,Britain or Israel).

The whole point of Pearl Harbor was to delay the US buildup as they bogged down in China and couldn't spare much men to fight the US. You love to spew whatever nonsense you read on " Totally Legitimate Lizard People Network".

PS, Get a job and save your money, ta da... then you can move.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by haymaker on Jul 26, 2016

If you really want out that bad

you could take a bus to Canada...don't need a lottery win for that.

And then what? Live off welfare like 90% of Southern Republicans?As a leftist i actually believe in paying my own bills and finding a job would be monstrously hard, not even counting any issues related to not being a citizen.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 26, 2016

LOL Guess you haven't been here long enough to know me, most know I am conservative.

I understand everyday people very well, I know many millionaires , most are self made and have hearts of gold and are very generous. Yes, some people are very snobby, poor people are snotty mean and rude as well. Depends on how you were raised.

You have a biased media pounding the Class wars into your head. You are here because you want to win the lottery and become rich, will it change who you are?

Good rule of thumb, never judge a book by it's bank account and if you really want to soil yourself, go read my blogs.

You are not a conservative. Conservatives are Obama, Mccain, Romney, etc. You are an Anarco-Capitalist, VERY DIFFERENT.

You look down on those millionaires as you MUST have been born into extreme wealth in order to be this ignorant and selfish.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 26, 2016

They couldn't spare much men, The South Pacific was loaded with Japanese soldiers, Pearl Harbor is was got us into the war, we actually helped China and everyone else.

Please, tell me why they attacked us in the first place, can't wait the hear this.

I'm not 100% sure on this but I'm fairly confident that EVERY battle between the US and Japan saw the US outnumber the Japanese by ridiculous amounts. I might be wrong on one oe two but it was good old vast numbers that led to the US victories in most places. I already explained why they did it, they did it to cripple the US fleet before the US had a chance to declare war and attack.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

The bottom line on why I voted Trump in the primary and will in November.

A vote for ANY other candidate Rep or Dem would be a vote to continue down the same road we have been traveling for years.

Trump is different. He cannot be bought.

Time for someone different. Voting for the same type of politician and expecting different results is insanity.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Jul 26, 2016

The bottom line on why I voted Trump in the primary and will in November.

A vote for ANY other candidate Rep or Dem would be a vote to continue down the same road we have been traveling for years.

Trump is different. He cannot be bought.

Time for someone different. Voting for the same type of politician and expecting different results is insanity.

I Agree!

 

That being said, I have about as much faith in voting machines not being rigged as  some do about lottery drawings....lol

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 26, 2016

I'm not 100% sure on this but I'm fairly confident that EVERY battle between the US and Japan saw the US outnumber the Japanese by ridiculous amounts. I might be wrong on one oe two but it was good old vast numbers that led to the US victories in most places. I already explained why they did it, they did it to cripple the US fleet before the US had a chance to declare war and attack.

Your post is ridiculous.

Stop reading revisionist history and deal with facts instead of spouting your opinion on things you know so little about. 

WW II Major Pacific Battles

If you can't figure it out look at the casualty figures for both sides.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Jul 26, 2016

Your post is ridiculous.

Stop reading revisionist history and deal with facts instead of spouting your opinion on things you know so little about. 

WW II Major Pacific Battles

If you can't figure it out look at the casualty figures for both sides.

Causalty figures do NOT equal the number of troops in combat. I assumed any 3rd grader would be able to understand that. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Angaur 10,000 US vs 1,400 Japanese

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bataan 120,000  US vs 70,000 Japanese, and this was early when Japan had some man power

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Peleliu 47,000 US vs 11,000 Japanese

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Singapore 85,000 British vs 36,000 Japanese, another early battle.

ronki

US Flag  8 years of the Clinton's was enough all she wants is the Power  What's Bill going to be the first Bubba  Trump all the way

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Jul 26, 2016

The bottom line on why I voted Trump in the primary and will in November.

A vote for ANY other candidate Rep or Dem would be a vote to continue down the same road we have been traveling for years.

Trump is different. He cannot be bought.

Time for someone different. Voting for the same type of politician and expecting different results is insanity.

He can't be bought because no donor is buying. The whole point of picking Pence was and is to get the Kochs to support Trump as Trump can't afford a run on his own ( Most of his wealth is in real estate and other non-cash things that are not easy to liquidate). Jill Stein for President 2016!!!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 26, 2016

I'm not 100% sure on this but I'm fairly confident that EVERY battle between the US and Japan saw the US outnumber the Japanese by ridiculous amounts. I might be wrong on one oe two but it was good old vast numbers that led to the US victories in most places. I already explained why they did it, they did it to cripple the US fleet before the US had a chance to declare war and attack.

First things first.

  1. They new we would soon join the war.
  2. They thought they could destroy our Naval fleet, they obviously didn't know about our East coast Naval Fleet.
  3. Boy did they under estimate us.
  4. Yes, they gave it half a thought on invading us, but we got guns.
sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 27, 2016

Causalty figures do NOT equal the number of troops in combat. I assumed any 3rd grader would be able to understand that. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Angaur 10,000 US vs 1,400 Japanese

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bataan 120,000  US vs 70,000 Japanese, and this was early when Japan had some man power

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Peleliu 47,000 US vs 11,000 Japanese

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Singapore 85,000 British vs 36,000 Japanese, another early battle.

You need to stop getting info on line, you can watch the actual footage of many battles on the history channel.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 26, 2016

You are not a conservative. Conservatives are Obama, Mccain, Romney, etc. You are an Anarco-Capitalist, VERY DIFFERENT.

You look down on those millionaires as you MUST have been born into extreme wealth in order to be this ignorant and selfish.

Obama Conservative, omg No way, not one Conservative bone in his body.

Born into extreme wealth, rotflmao , Don't know many Chippewa's born with a silver spoon.

There is nothing in any of my statements that even comes close to looking down on Millionaires.

So in your mind, anyone who doesn't want to give away their hard earned money is ignorant and selfish.

So basically all you want is an oppressive bloated Government to take away other peoples hard earned money and give it to you. So sorry you cannot stand on your own 2 feet and make it in this world.

I hope you move to Canada, and get eaten by a bear or wolf because you don't believe in guns.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 26, 2016

And then what? Live off welfare like 90% of Southern Republicans?As a leftist i actually believe in paying my own bills and finding a job would be monstrously hard, not even counting any issues related to not being a citizen.

86 % of people on welfare are Democrats.

You believe in paying your own bills, lol You are full of excuses, full of %$#@!

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 27, 2016

He can't be bought because no donor is buying. The whole point of picking Pence was and is to get the Kochs to support Trump as Trump can't afford a run on his own ( Most of his wealth is in real estate and other non-cash things that are not easy to liquidate). Jill Stein for President 2016!!!

I agree with many of your points, however, as I understand Stein hasn't even published her 12 point (or however many) plan, while Sanders and Clinton did so last November (?) ? That does not inspire confidence.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 27, 2016

Causalty figures do NOT equal the number of troops in combat. I assumed any 3rd grader would be able to understand that. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Angaur 10,000 US vs 1,400 Japanese

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bataan 120,000  US vs 70,000 Japanese, and this was early when Japan had some man power

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Peleliu 47,000 US vs 11,000 Japanese

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Singapore 85,000 British vs 36,000 Japanese, another early battle.

What are you going to tell us next, Kingofearth? That the defenders of the Alamo greatly outnumbered Santa Ana and his army?

Bang Head

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Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Jul 27, 2016

What are you going to tell us next, Kingofearth? That the defenders of the Alamo greatly outnumbered Santa Ana and his army?

Bang Head

Davy Crockett didn't really exist. We made him up to sell hats and help the fat cats get rich.Green laugh

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 27, 2016

First things first.

  1. They new we would soon join the war.
  2. They thought they could destroy our Naval fleet, they obviously didn't know about our East coast Naval Fleet.
  3. Boy did they under estimate us.
  4. Yes, they gave it half a thought on invading us, but we got guns.

The first is correct, the rest of what you said is lizard people garbage.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 27, 2016

The first is correct, the rest of what you said is lizard people garbage.

Someone woke up grumpy.Green laugh

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 27, 2016

You need to stop getting info on line, you can watch the actual footage of many battles on the history channel.

Which show overwhelming numbers of Americans against vastly oitnumbered Japanese. Unless they're Hollywood movies.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 27, 2016

Obama Conservative, omg No way, not one Conservative bone in his body.

Born into extreme wealth, rotflmao , Don't know many Chippewa's born with a silver spoon.

There is nothing in any of my statements that even comes close to looking down on Millionaires.

So in your mind, anyone who doesn't want to give away their hard earned money is ignorant and selfish.

So basically all you want is an oppressive bloated Government to take away other peoples hard earned money and give it to you. So sorry you cannot stand on your own 2 feet and make it in this world.

I hope you move to Canada, and get eaten by a bear or wolf because you don't believe in guns.

Obama's signature piece of legislation is the far-right Heritage Foundations health care proposal from the 90's called" the affordable care act". Obama came into office an extreme homophobe but thankfully changed his mind. Obama has done nothing on guns but sign bills to REDUCE gun control. He is a center-right moderate conservative. You are an anarchist-capitalist, simple as that. I'd rather a bloated government that makes sure there isn't mass starvation and death over a complete lack of government.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Jul 27, 2016

I agree with many of your points, however, as I understand Stein hasn't even published her 12 point (or however many) plan, while Sanders and Clinton did so last November (?) ? That does not inspire confidence.

I'm pretty sure she published a plan when she ran in 2012 and she's just using her old plan.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Jul 27, 2016

What are you going to tell us next, Kingofearth? That the defenders of the Alamo greatly outnumbered Santa Ana and his army?

Bang Head

I deal in facts, it is a basic fact that the Mrxicsn army vastly outnumbered the defenders.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 27, 2016

Davy Crockett didn't really exist. We made him up to sell hats and help the fat cats get rich.Green laugh

Davy Crockett existed, the hat did not at the time. Also him and a few others were captured alive and executed.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 27, 2016

Obama's signature piece of legislation is the far-right Heritage Foundations health care proposal from the 90's called" the affordable care act". Obama came into office an extreme homophobe but thankfully changed his mind. Obama has done nothing on guns but sign bills to REDUCE gun control. He is a center-right moderate conservative. You are an anarchist-capitalist, simple as that. I'd rather a bloated government that makes sure there isn't mass starvation and death over a complete lack of government.

That is all non sense, mass starvation, we throw away half the food we grow cause of Government rules and regulations.

When I not wondering aimlessly through my mansion, I work in a food service store, Because of Government over reach, much of the produce is thrown away before it even starts to blemish, we can donate everything but raw meats, fish and poultry, that gets thrown away. That stuff must go into a lockable can so no one can steal it.

Now I have to go organize the household help, lol

SoleWinner21

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Jul 26, 2016

The bottom line on why I voted Trump in the primary and will in November.

A vote for ANY other candidate Rep or Dem would be a vote to continue down the same road we have been traveling for years.

Trump is different. He cannot be bought.

Time for someone different. Voting for the same type of politician and expecting different results is insanity.

That orange buffoon is no different than any other politicians. You seriously think he can, or will be able to deliver on the promises that he said he could. He just spewed  a bunch of BS to get the nominee.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by SoleWinner21 on Jul 27, 2016

That orange buffoon is no different than any other politicians. You seriously think he can, or will be able to deliver on the promises that he said he could. He just spewed  a bunch of BS to get the nominee.

Taking a line from the movie" Shawshank Redemption" this colossal Pr***  this morning praised Russian hackers for getting to his opponent's emails. Both parties make promises that they know they cannot keep, but the BS continues.  Prior to joining LP,  l was a regular in a  political forum- the nonsense practiced back then by politicians has not changed, it's worse.Puke

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Jul 27, 2016

Taking a line from the movie" Shawshank Redemption" this colossal Pr***  this morning praised Russian hackers for getting to his opponent's emails. Both parties make promises that they know they cannot keep, but the BS continues.  Prior to joining LP,  l was a regular in a  political forum- the nonsense practiced back then by politicians has not changed, it's worse.Puke

Somebody was praising the Harding/Coolidge administrations and that reminded me they were followed by Hoover and the stock market crash in 1929. It also reminded me of Archie and Edith Bunker singing "We could use a man like Herbert Hoover again". To tie this all together, lots of stuff Donald Trump says are IMO something an Archie Bunker might say.

Trump says many things that I believe are meant to be outrageous that many Americans relate to whether they believe Trump can do it or not.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 27, 2016

Somebody was praising the Harding/Coolidge administrations and that reminded me they were followed by Hoover and the stock market crash in 1929. It also reminded me of Archie and Edith Bunker singing "We could use a man like Herbert Hoover again". To tie this all together, lots of stuff Donald Trump says are IMO something an Archie Bunker might say.

Trump says many things that I believe are meant to be outrageous that many Americans relate to whether they believe Trump can do it or not.

Hmm, no Stack.Archer B was a comedy,  this scenario is hardly it. There was no Internet in Hoover or Bunkers time to hack into.The point l am trying to make is, when does one take this guy serious or is it " just having fun. "

**Remember the line in Tombstone where Ringo says  " l was just fooling about, at which doc says " l wasn't. " It cost him his life. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by SoleWinner21 on Jul 27, 2016

That orange buffoon is no different than any other politicians. You seriously think he can, or will be able to deliver on the promises that he said he could. He just spewed  a bunch of BS to get the nominee.

Hey dummy...He's not a politician.  He's worth 10 billion bucks and doesn't need to do this.  IMO he's going to change things for the better.  On the other hand, Hillary has been a politician for over 40 years and she will just be the same ol same ol.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Jul 27, 2016

Hey dummy...He's not a politician.  He's worth 10 billion bucks and doesn't need to do this.  IMO he's going to change things for the better.  On the other hand, Hillary has been a politician for over 40 years and she will just be the same ol same ol.

Actually we don't know if his worth $10 mil LiGB- he says so, Mr C who is a billionaire of the mavericks thinks otherwise. Nevertheless it's besides the point. We once had a wrestler in MN & a bodybuilder in CA as governors.Need l remind you that Arnold has a business degree as well. It would be good for you to check their record on how well they did....Just saying. 

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Jul 27, 2016

Hey dummy...He's not a politician.  He's worth 10 billion bucks and doesn't need to do this.  IMO he's going to change things for the better.  On the other hand, Hillary has been a politician for over 40 years and she will just be the same ol same ol.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/top-ten-reasons-to-doubt-trump-is-even-a-billionaire

Hillary has been a politician for the past 16 years. Being the spouse of a politician does NOT mean you are a politician.

bigbear29

Yes SoleWinner21, I agree with you 100% !  He does not think before he opens his mouth.  And, where is his taxes!  He's hiding something.  He's not going to do not one thing if he gets into office, except look out for the rich.  His clothes are made overseas, so he's not going to bring jobs back.  He's going to be the biggest disappointment.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Jul 26, 2016

The bottom line on why I voted Trump in the primary and will in November.

A vote for ANY other candidate Rep or Dem would be a vote to continue down the same road we have been traveling for years.

Trump is different. He cannot be bought.

Time for someone different. Voting for the same type of politician and expecting different results is insanity.

Amen. I love lottery post!

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Jul 27, 2016

Yes SoleWinner21, I agree with you 100% !  He does not think before he opens his mouth.  And, where is his taxes!  He's hiding something.  He's not going to do not one thing if he gets into office, except look out for the rich.  His clothes are made overseas, so he's not going to bring jobs back.  He's going to be the biggest disappointment.

Regardless of your political affiliation- this line is a doozy.

" His clothes are made overseas, so he's not going to bring jobs back!" LOL

bigbear29

Well, he's not going to bring jobs back to the USA.  IT's just a whole lot of talk from trump.  The wall that Mexico is going to pay for, not going to happen.  People state that the Dems have not done any, but the Repubs were the first ones to step up to say that they were not going to work with President Obama.  And now, a lot of the repubs don't like trump.  Nothing is going to get done.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Jul 27, 2016

Hmm, no Stack.Archer B was a comedy,  this scenario is hardly it. There was no Internet in Hoover or Bunkers time to hack into.The point l am trying to make is, when does one take this guy serious or is it " just having fun. "

**Remember the line in Tombstone where Ringo says  " l was just fooling about, at which doc says " l wasn't. " It cost him his life. 

 “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, They probably have them. I’d like to have them released.”

While Archie Bunker was a fictional character, many people related to what he said and those who watched All in the Family say "sounds like something Archie Bunker would say". I seriously doubt Trump was advocating hacking into the State Department network and IMO it makes more sense to call it an Archie Bunkerism.

Ringo's death was ruled a suicide though Wyatt Earp and several others made claims, but Holiday was in Court in Colorado.

bigbear29

Nice comment and a great movie!  " say when "!

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

I liked that movie a lot, but the death of Johnny Ringo in it is not factual. Most movies and shows are not factual. So I don't take them seriously, except for entertainment value.

Quinto's avatarQuinto

I'd put a trumpload of $ down, a stack of bens as high as the wall he want's to build!! #Trumpload of loot

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Jul 28, 2016

Nice comment and a great movie!  " say when "!

Yes it is a great movie. Had tons of humor as well instead of having bullets flying in every direction..Just a sample.

" Let's have a spelling contest. - Doc to Ike.

You may be the Anti Christ- Doc to his woman.

I'm your Huckleberry -Doc to Ringo

 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay
  1.  The FBI subpoenas Hillary's emails from her private server.
  2.   After receiving the subpoena she deletes 30 thousand emails.
  3.   If you or I did that we'd be in jail.  Thats called obstruction of justice.

She's a stinking rotten criminal who sold influence for cash...See the Clinton Crime Foundation.

bigbear29

LOL, "let's have a spelling contest".

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Jul 28, 2016

LOL, "let's have a spelling contest".

Did I misspell something?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Jul 28, 2016

  1.  The FBI subpoenas Hillary's emails from her private server.
  2.   After receiving the subpoena she deletes 30 thousand emails.
  3.   If you or I did that we'd be in jail.  Thats called obstruction of justice.

She's a stinking rotten criminal who sold influence for cash...See the Clinton Crime Foundation.

Clearly the FBI and Justice Department, the top guys in law enforcement, disagree. I'm not voting for her because i will not vote a conservative regardless of what letter is next to their name. 

bigbear29

It's a phrase from the movie Tombstone.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 28, 2016

Clearly the FBI and Justice Department, the top guys in law enforcement, disagree. I'm not voting for her because i will not vote a conservative regardless of what letter is next to their name. 

As I sit here in the North wing of Chateau De Sully16, sipping ice cold Perrier and nibbleing delicate finger sandwiches, I appluad you Kingofert, be the oppresser we know you can be, get  your all faithful left wing loons to vote for Jill.

Thank you.

Bruuuuhahahahahahahaha.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 28, 2016

Clearly the FBI and Justice Department, the top guys in law enforcement, disagree. I'm not voting for her because i will not vote a conservative regardless of what letter is next to their name. 

That was a political not legal decision.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Jul 28, 2016

Did I misspell something?

Yes you did?  Go through all your posts for the last 6 months and you will see them glaring at you.

BB caught it.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 28, 2016

 “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, They probably have them. I’d like to have them released.”

While Archie Bunker was a fictional character, many people related to what he said and those who watched All in the Family say "sounds like something Archie Bunker would say". I seriously doubt Trump was advocating hacking into the State Department network and IMO it makes more sense to call it an Archie Bunkerism.

Ringo's death was ruled a suicide though Wyatt Earp and several others made claims, but Holiday was in Court in Colorado.

Oh stack. We discussing a movie- lighten up Ol Friend. By the way when was the last time you took in a movie, not from the comfort of your recliner.  Was it the Exorcist or The Godfather? 

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 28, 2016

As I sit here in the North wing of Chateau De Sully16, sipping ice cold Perrier and nibbleing delicate finger sandwiches, I appluad you Kingofert, be the oppresser we know you can be, get  your all faithful left wing loons to vote for Jill.

Thank you.

Bruuuuhahahahahahahaha.

She got over 500,000 votes in 2012, The Green Party is growing as more and more people are realizing there needs to be an alternative to the two right wing parties.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 28, 2016

She got over 500,000 votes in 2012, The Green Party is growing as more and more people are realizing there needs to be an alternative to the two right wing parties.

Anyone who takes votes away from Hil Lie Ery is fine with me.

Long Odds

I truly believe Trump is playing chess and almost everyone else is playing checkers. If your baseline is that Trump is a self-promoting, idiotic buffoon, who has accomplished nothing in life and screws everyone he has ever come into contact with certainly you will interpret his comments negatively. However, if you open your minds to the reality that he is a very successful businessman with negotiation and other skills that enabled his growth on a worldwide scale, you may delve a little deeper into his comments and have some curiosity as to what this guy is up to. What truly scares me about the state of this country and the voters is that that most lack any intellectual curiosity and those that view themselves as most informed are intellectually dishonest. How can one listen to any of these career politicians and not recognize that all they do is lie in an attempt to garner votes? Another impact that Trump is having in this election cycle is to expose the true partisan nature of the media. The universal outrage expressed over Trump's comments about Hillary's deleted e-mails is instructive. Remember that Hillary informed us that the 33,000 deleted e-mails were all personal in nature: how then can calling on the Russian's to release them if they have them have any national security implications? Releasing Hillary's yoga lesson e-mails have national security implications? Oh, but the idiotic media and the democratic party go even further; he should be investigated by every arm of the US government for his treasonous statements; how can he request of the Russian's to infiltrate her server in an attempt to get these 33,000 e-mails when we already know that Hillary had her team physically destroyed the servers?- they don't even exist anymore. This does not require much thought to debunk the nonsense you are being asked to believe- you just need some level of curiosity and common sense. If you are voting in this election, wake the hell up to the sewer that is our current government and the leaders of both parties.

bigbear29

I hear what you are saying, BUT trump IS NOT THE GUY TO MAKE CHANGES!  trump is about trump and that is it.  I was a Bernie person, so I pick Hillary over trump.

Trump should release his TAXES.  Is trump going to get his clothes made in the USA?  Everything that trump states, someone else has to explain what he meant to say.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Jul 28, 2016

I hear what you are saying, BUT trump IS NOT THE GUY TO MAKE CHANGES!  trump is about trump and that is it.  I was a Bernie person, so I pick Hillary over trump.

Trump should release his TAXES.  Is trump going to get his clothes made in the USA?  Everything that trump states, someone else has to explain what he meant to say.

Looks like you never saw a Trump speech.  What changes do you expect Hillary to make?  Can you be specific?  I can.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Jul 28, 2016

Oh stack. We discussing a movie- lighten up Ol Friend. By the way when was the last time you took in a movie, not from the comfort of your recliner.  Was it the Exorcist or The Godfather? 

And talking about old TV shows like All in the Family that aired about the same time as when The Godfather was released (1972?). I've heard people say some of Trump's remarks sound like something Archie Bunker might say and others say "who is Archie Bunker". I don't expect everybody under 40 to know of the Archie Bunker character, but it's not that difficult to search it. IMO Trump remarks are more figuratively and do remind me of "something Archie Bunker might say".

BTW, today one of the taking heads showed Bunker and Trumps quotes which were remarkably similar.

A while back someone on LP said "Jack's Racino don't look the same anymore since they remolded it." and I mentioned it sounded like something Yogi Berra might say. Instead of simply searching "Yogisms" that member decided I was insulting her so it seems like some of the members here are either somewhat paranoid or don't understand other types of humor. 

Oh, and speaking of quotes from classics westerns, I was thinking about this quote ,"When the legend is better than the truth print the legend" when I remarked about Holiday and Ringo.

The last ten days, the heat index here was over 100 and we went to the movies and saw Ghost Busters on Sunday.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Jul 28, 2016

I hear what you are saying, BUT trump IS NOT THE GUY TO MAKE CHANGES!  trump is about trump and that is it.  I was a Bernie person, so I pick Hillary over trump.

Trump should release his TAXES.  Is trump going to get his clothes made in the USA?  Everything that trump states, someone else has to explain what he meant to say.

Trump can't release his taxes yet because the IRS is auditing him right now.  He will later when they're done.

bigbear29

I watched the RNC Convention everyday and I was not Impressed.  I think that Hillary will get more done than Trump.

bigbear29

IRS stated that trump can release his taxes before the IRS is done.  That was from the IRS.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Jul 28, 2016

I watched the RNC Convention everyday and I was not Impressed.  I think that Hillary will get more done than Trump.

Yea?  Like what?  Democrats have been in power for 8 years straight.

bigbear29

And has been blocked by the republicans for 8 years.  When Obama took office, the republicans were the first to say that they were not going to work with Obama.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Democrats held majorities in both Houses the first four years of obama's term.  Don't blame that on Republicans.  You want to know the truth about Democrats?.....They like to divide people for votes even when there is no division.  Believe what you want, I'm tired of arguing with a rock.

bigbear29

It's not a argument, you vote for whom ever you want.

Long Odds

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Jul 28, 2016

I hear what you are saying, BUT trump IS NOT THE GUY TO MAKE CHANGES!  trump is about trump and that is it.  I was a Bernie person, so I pick Hillary over trump.

Trump should release his TAXES.  Is trump going to get his clothes made in the USA?  Everything that trump states, someone else has to explain what he meant to say.

The only reason that it requires further explanation is because of the relentless attack and manipulation by the media. If you can't watch yesterday's press conference and then recognize how his answers were totally distorted by the compliant press on instructions from the Hillary campaign (let the spin begin), you are not trying hard enough or you have biases going in that preclude you from open and honest discernment.

The honesty of your comment that Trump is about Trump is totally contradicted by your next sentence where you pick Hillary; if you think Trump is all about Trump more than Hillary is all about Hillary, you are not paying attention.

Nodda4me's avatarNodda4me

Now I wonder what would happen if they indict Hillary Clinton on the email scandals like they should have in the first place, which then will disqualify her of holding on higher office in the US, including presidency. She is legally NOT eligible to become president. Yet the government (United States Attorney General, Lynch) doesn't care about the law when it comes to her.

Long Odds

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Jul 28, 2016

And has been blocked by the republicans for 8 years.  When Obama took office, the republicans were the first to say that they were not going to work with Obama.

If only the Republicans actually were an opposition party over the last eight years, Trump would never have had a chance in this election cycle. Of course they should have said they would not work with Obama- his stated desire was to "fundamentally transform America". If you believe in America's constitution and the bill of rights, you could not possibly support fundamental transformation. Only thing is the Republicans rolled over for fear of being called racist for opposing the half white guy, telling their supporters to always wait for the next election cycle when they could really impact Washington (can you say we only control 1/2 of 1/3 of the government when they took control of the house? Can you say we don't want to do anything in opposition to Obama for fear of hurting our chances in the presidential election?). Our leaders- Obama, Biden, Boehner, McConnell, Pelosi, Reid, Ryan- all fail to represent the American people.

bigbear29

If she does get indicted ( which I think she will not ) than it was meant to be.  Trump should release his taxes.

Long Odds

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Jul 28, 2016

IRS stated that trump can release his taxes before the IRS is done.  That was from the IRS.

You are the exact scary voter that is ruining America. You perceive yourself to be fully informed yet you have not a clue. Is this the same IRS under Obama that went after the Tea Party groups not-for-profit status prohibiting them from fully participating in the 2012 election? Of course, you probably think Lois Lerner did nothing wrong because she also walked away a free woman, as did Hillary. So the IRS says there is nothing that precludes Trump from releasing his tax returns while under audit and you mindlessly agree. There is not one tax attorney that would recommend a client release any information until an audit is complete. So, of course he could release his returns because there is nothing that legally precludes it, but that would be unwise. On a larger point, what the hell do you want to learn from Trump's tax returns? It is inconsequential except to those that would seek to use the information in an additional attempt to destroy Hillary's opponent. There is a truth that everyone should strive for- not my truth, not your truth, not Democrats truth, not Republicans truth- the truth.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 28, 2016

She got over 500,000 votes in 2012, The Green Party is growing as more and more people are realizing there needs to be an alternative to the two right wing parties.

Well, I hope you and TrigglyPuff can save the world.

Nodda4me's avatarNodda4me

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Jul 28, 2016

If she does get indicted ( which I think she will not ) than it was meant to be.  Trump should release his taxes.

There will be a whole lot of angry people if they tell the citizens that Clinton is above the law.

 

It's a federal crime to send classified and top secret information to somebody who does not have the proper clearance. It's even worse when it was sent on an unsecure server in her basement (which is against policy too)

 

It's also a federal crime to lie under oath in the Supreme Court.

 

She should go to prison for 20 years with no chance of parole.

Deo-nonfortuna

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 26, 2016

Went to my class reunion a couple weeks ago, many of the people there I have not seen since the 70's.

The hot topic was not politics, but how the world has changed , and how our kids are growing up .

My son was 2 when Islamic Terrorists flew planes into the world trade center, this is his world to adapt to .

He will never know what was like going to an airport, concert or Hockey game without being searched and scrutinized.

He is living with technology we never dreamed was possible.

Back in our day, the big argument was who's cuter, David Gilmour or Roger Taylor, now everything is an argument.

This Country has gone insane with political correctness, if you disagree, you get a label and depending on the topic, you could be Racist, bigot, hater, homophobe etc.

In our day we watched Little house on the Prairie, the Waltons or a family themed comedy/music show.

Now the TV is filled with reality shows, people in constant conflict, or people living lives that are not even close to real.

Survival shows top the lists.

I guess it doesn't matter who is elected, I was taught to survive long before these shows popped up.

I not only know how to grow food, I hunt, fish and can find food in the forest.

For my son's sake, for the world he has to grow up in, I want a leader who is willing to say and do the things we need, to keep us just a little safer.

Some things you can't control, but we need a leader who can make it harder for those who mean to harm us.

Trump has my vote. US Flag

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but read this excerpt regarding Operation Northwoods from Wiki and judge for yourself.

Or u can google it. It sounds very much like the scenario from 9/11.

Operation Northwoods

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Operation Northwoods memorandum (13 March 1962)[1]
Lyman L. Lemnitzer, who was in charge as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government, that originated within the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[2]

At the time of the proposal, communists led by Fidel Castro had recently taken power in Cuba. The operation proposed creating public support for a war against Cuba by blaming it for terrorist acts that would actually be perpetrated by the US Government.[3] To this end, Operation Northwoods proposals recommended hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated:

The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere.

Several other proposals were included within Operation Northwoods, including real or simulated actions against various US military and civilian targets. The operation recommended developing a "Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington".

The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense. Although part of the US government's anti-communist Cuban Project, Operation Northwoods was never officially accepted; it was authorized by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy. According to currently released documentation, none of the operations became active under the auspices of the Operation Northwoods proposals.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 28, 2016

As I sit here in the North wing of Chateau De Sully16, sipping ice cold Perrier and nibbleing delicate finger sandwiches, I appluad you Kingofert, be the oppresser we know you can be, get  your all faithful left wing loons to vote for Jill.

Thank you.

Bruuuuhahahahahahahaha.

Lol lol

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Deo-nonfortuna on Jul 28, 2016

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but read this excerpt regarding Operation Northwoods from Wiki and judge for yourself.

Or u can google it. It sounds very much like the scenario from 9/11.

Operation Northwoods

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Operation Northwoods memorandum (13 March 1962)[1]
Lyman L. Lemnitzer, who was in charge as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government, that originated within the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[2]

At the time of the proposal, communists led by Fidel Castro had recently taken power in Cuba. The operation proposed creating public support for a war against Cuba by blaming it for terrorist acts that would actually be perpetrated by the US Government.[3] To this end, Operation Northwoods proposals recommended hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated:

The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere.

Several other proposals were included within Operation Northwoods, including real or simulated actions against various US military and civilian targets. The operation recommended developing a "Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington".

The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense. Although part of the US government's anti-communist Cuban Project, Operation Northwoods was never officially accepted; it was authorized by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy. According to currently released documentation, none of the operations became active under the auspices of the Operation Northwoods proposals.

Thanks Deo, I will check it out.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Jul 28, 2016

Lol lol

Google Trigglypuff, hehehehehehe, King's Queen.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Labels do not apply anymore. We need a logical people's revolution to save the USA. Trump is the one to lead change. If Hillary gets in, we will not even be able to walk down the street without fear of bring shot or worse. And we all know how Obama loved Catholics...lol. I will end up trying to be a Christian in the catacomb sewers of Washington, DC.

We are at the very end of the line here and we have no more time to make wrong choices. The invasion is happening if Hillary is elected. We will not survive as a free nation under Hillary. If you are on the fence as to your choice, open your eyes to the truth.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Jul 28, 2016

Labels do not apply anymore. We need a logical people's revolution to save the USA. Trump is the one to lead change. If Hillary gets in, we will not even be able to walk down the street without fear of bring shot or worse. And we all know how Obama loved Catholics...lol. I will end up trying to be a Christian in the catacomb sewers of Washington, DC.

We are at the very end of the line here and we have no more time to make wrong choices. The invasion is happening if Hillary is elected. We will not survive as a free nation under Hillary. If you are on the fence as to your choice, open your eyes to the truth.

I agree.US Flag

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Jul 28, 2016

And has been blocked by the republicans for 8 years.  When Obama took office, the republicans were the first to say that they were not going to work with Obama.

The Democrats controlled both the Senate and the House for Obama's first 2 years. He could have done anything he wanted and he took advantage of that by passing numerous legislation's including his beloved OBAMA care. FYI, not possible for the Republicans to block anything when the Democrats had control of everything.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 28, 2016

Well, I hope you and TrigglyPuff can save the world.

The most extreme cases of political correctness are in the right, not the left. "Capitalism is entirely good" "Lower taxes create jobs because they make rich people happy" THAT is the very definition of political correctness, blind belief in nonsense that politicians spew out. The difference between left and right political correctness is that the left controls the crazies while the right has been eaten by them.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Jul 28, 2016

Labels do not apply anymore. We need a logical people's revolution to save the USA. Trump is the one to lead change. If Hillary gets in, we will not even be able to walk down the street without fear of bring shot or worse. And we all know how Obama loved Catholics...lol. I will end up trying to be a Christian in the catacomb sewers of Washington, DC.

We are at the very end of the line here and we have no more time to make wrong choices. The invasion is happening if Hillary is elected. We will not survive as a free nation under Hillary. If you are on the fence as to your choice, open your eyes to the truth.

Why so much doom and gloom? If Obama didn't destroy America, how/why would/could Hillary Rodham?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Jul 28, 2016

The Democrats controlled both the Senate and the House for Obama's first 2 years. He could have done anything he wanted and he took advantage of that by passing numerous legislation's including his beloved OBAMA care. FYI, not possible for the Republicans to block anything when the Democrats had control of everything.

2 years to be able to bring real change and instead the center-right moderate conservative uses it to implement far-right healthcare created by the Heritage Foundation. His only other major bill was to allow you to carry an arsenal onto Amtrak trains. Sound Progressive to you when you leave political jargon and look at the bare facts?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Jul 28, 2016

Labels do not apply anymore. We need a logical people's revolution to save the USA. Trump is the one to lead change. If Hillary gets in, we will not even be able to walk down the street without fear of bring shot or worse. And we all know how Obama loved Catholics...lol. I will end up trying to be a Christian in the catacomb sewers of Washington, DC.

We are at the very end of the line here and we have no more time to make wrong choices. The invasion is happening if Hillary is elected. We will not survive as a free nation under Hillary. If you are on the fence as to your choice, open your eyes to the truth.

Today is the safest time in American history. What you said is  the equivalent of wearing 4 winter coats in July.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Jul 28, 2016

Why so much doom and gloom? If Obama didn't destroy America, how/why would/could Hillary Rodham?

Hey buddy...You live in Germany.  Don't worry about our US elections OK!  You're first concern should be the terrorists Merkel is allowing into your country.  Just another reason we're voting for Trump here!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 28, 2016

Today is the safest time in American history. What you said is  the equivalent of wearing 4 winter coats in July.

Safest for who?  You kidding?  Have you seen the news lately?  Stop with the BS man.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 28, 2016

The most extreme cases of political correctness are in the right, not the left. "Capitalism is entirely good" "Lower taxes create jobs because they make rich people happy" THAT is the very definition of political correctness, blind belief in nonsense that politicians spew out. The difference between left and right political correctness is that the left controls the crazies while the right has been eaten by them.

Whattt!  You are to far gone. You have been brainwashed and can't see it, Cause I don't think all Corporations are good and wholesome, take each as they come.

Your either making stuff up to suit your own insecurities , extreme lack of self worth, or whoever warped your mind needs to be put away for a very long time, cause buddy, you drank way to much Kool-aid.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Jul 28, 2016

Hey buddy...You live in Germany.  Don't worry about our US elections OK!  You're first concern should be the terrorists Merkel is allowing into your country.  Just another reason we're voting for Trump here!

Who are these terrorists you are referring too?

You derail by telling me this discussion is open to Americans only but somehow Merkel forces your hand in the election? Little contradictory.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Jul 28, 2016

Why so much doom and gloom? If Obama didn't destroy America, how/why would/could Hillary Rodham?

Let's talk how your country allowed hundreds of women to be assaulted by immigrants.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Jul 28, 2016

Let's talk how your country allowed hundreds of women to be assaulted by immigrants.

Exactly.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 28, 2016

Exactly.

Germany is the launching pad for the invasion. Valient France is trying to hold on. I cry for France.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Jul 28, 2016

Let's talk how your country allowed hundreds of women to be assaulted by immigrants.

As opposed to the regular assault of women by non-immigrants?

Do you believe this was a government-sanctioned grope-in ?

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Jul 28, 2016

Germany is the launching pad for the invasion. Valient France is trying to hold on. I cry for France.

Right, that's why France had these problems before.

More alarmist rhetoric from you I see, I'm sure you will enjoy a Trump presidency.

Deo-nonfortuna

Germany's immigrant/refugee problems are in pale compared to millions of illegals in here who smuggle drugs, murder, rape, rob, drive with no insurance, hundreds of thousands of Latino gangbangers who are growing in #s, and children of these illegals are awarded automatic US citizenship which costs tax payers millions per year in school, medical, and other costs. They literally bankrupted CA, which resorted to legalizing weed. Get the idea?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Deo-nonfortuna on Jul 28, 2016

Germany's immigrant/refugee problems are in pale compared to millions of illegals in here who smuggle drugs, murder, rape, rob, drive with no insurance, hundreds of thousands of Latino gangbangers who are growing in #s, and children of these illegals are awarded automatic US citizenship which costs tax payers millions per year in school, medical, and other costs. They literally bankrupted CA, which resorted to legalizing weed. Get the idea?

Spot on. I agree.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Jul 28, 2016

Safest for who?  You kidding?  Have you seen the news lately?  Stop with the BS man.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/04/14/theres-never-been-a-safer-time-to-be-a-kid-in-america/

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/09/29/canada-election-security-safe_n_8039394.html

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/history-and-the-decline-of-human-violence/

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/12/the_world_is_not_falling_apart_the_trend_lines_reveal_an_increasingly_peaceful.html

Who is the BSer here again?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 28, 2016

Whattt!  You are to far gone. You have been brainwashed and can't see it, Cause I don't think all Corporations are good and wholesome, take each as they come.

Your either making stuff up to suit your own insecurities , extreme lack of self worth, or whoever warped your mind needs to be put away for a very long time, cause buddy, you drank way to much Kool-aid.

The queen of right wing political correctness retreats into her safe space where facts and her opinion can never be separated.When you come out of your safe space let me know and we can chat facts.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Deo-nonfortuna on Jul 28, 2016

Germany's immigrant/refugee problems are in pale compared to millions of illegals in here who smuggle drugs, murder, rape, rob, drive with no insurance, hundreds of thousands of Latino gangbangers who are growing in #s, and children of these illegals are awarded automatic US citizenship which costs tax payers millions per year in school, medical, and other costs. They literally bankrupted CA, which resorted to legalizing weed. Get the idea?

Yes and no. Painting millions of people with such broad strokes is unfair and downplays how the US governments worked to destabilize its neighboring countries while profiting from the cheap labor undocumented immigrants provide to the US economy.

These illegals pay billions in taxes and in the clunky way that governments work produce the people the US needs in order to prosper and fend off aging of the population.

This is why the border is intentionally penetrable. If the government intended to be able to find any person in the country, which as I understand is why controls are so intense, they could implement obligation to register.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Deo-nonfortuna on Jul 28, 2016

Germany's immigrant/refugee problems are in pale compared to millions of illegals in here who smuggle drugs, murder, rape, rob, drive with no insurance, hundreds of thousands of Latino gangbangers who are growing in #s, and children of these illegals are awarded automatic US citizenship which costs tax payers millions per year in school, medical, and other costs. They literally bankrupted CA, which resorted to legalizing weed. Get the idea?

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-01/study-undocumented-immigrants-pay-billions-in-taxes

Contrary to public perception, "Illegal" immigrants MUST pay their taxes and are NOT allowed to go on any kind of welfare. It's messed up , but hey the republicans  want it that way. Everything else you said is far detached from reality that I don't know whether i should even bother.

Fine i'll show everyone how detached you are

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/02/surprise-donald-trump-is-wrong-about-immigrants-and-crime/

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2012/06/public-study-illegal-immigrants-commit-less-crime-than-americans/

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 28, 2016

The queen of right wing political correctness retreats into her safe space where facts and her opinion can never be separated.When you come out of your safe space let me know and we can chat facts.

I am far from PC Cupcake and I never retreat.

You chose that Avatar to make yourself bigger then who you really are, calling yourself King, yikes!

Now go back to putting labels on books, people and everything else that scares you.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Jul 28, 2016

Right, that's why France had these problems before.

More alarmist rhetoric from you I see, I'm sure you will enjoy a Trump presidency.

Sounds like you fear Trump. Another reason to vote for him.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Jul 28, 2016

Sounds like you fear Trump. Another reason to vote for him.

More playground-level skills from you.

As I'm white and male I don't have to fear Trump.

If your decision to vote for somebody is as callous as to do it to spite someone I understand your infatuation with a fraudulent  con-artist narcissist.

Deo-nonfortuna

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 28, 2016

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-01/study-undocumented-immigrants-pay-billions-in-taxes

Contrary to public perception, "Illegal" immigrants MUST pay their taxes and are NOT allowed to go on any kind of welfare. It's messed up , but hey the republicans  want it that way. Everything else you said is far detached from reality that I don't know whether i should even bother.

Fine i'll show everyone how detached you are

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/02/surprise-donald-trump-is-wrong-about-immigrants-and-crime/

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2012/06/public-study-illegal-immigrants-commit-less-crime-than-americans/

First of all, I've never said jack didley about illegals not paying taxes or go on welfare. Yea, I'm sure they pay sales tax after a meal at McDonald's and of course they're not eligible for welfare. Second of all u said everything else I said was far detached from reality? LOL so Mr. bleeding heart pinko, we don't have any illegal-related problems I mentioned here?

U belong in a commie China or N Korea or better yet, in a looney bin. Go work on ur reading comprehension.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 28, 2016

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-01/study-undocumented-immigrants-pay-billions-in-taxes

Contrary to public perception, "Illegal" immigrants MUST pay their taxes and are NOT allowed to go on any kind of welfare. It's messed up , but hey the republicans  want it that way. Everything else you said is far detached from reality that I don't know whether i should even bother.

Fine i'll show everyone how detached you are

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/02/surprise-donald-trump-is-wrong-about-immigrants-and-crime/

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2012/06/public-study-illegal-immigrants-commit-less-crime-than-americans/

Illegal's commit less crime ?, they are all criminals as they broke our laws coming here.

Oh and I went through you last 50 posts, seeing 2 different speaking styles again, as one of you speaks more intelligently than the other.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Jul 28, 2016

More playground-level skills from you.

As I'm white and male I don't have to fear Trump.

If your decision to vote for somebody is as callous as to do it to spite someone I understand your infatuation with a fraudulent  con-artist narcissist.

Busted, I know what your doing.

Deo-nonfortuna

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 28, 2016

Illegal's commit less crime ?, they are all criminals as they broke our laws coming here.

Oh and I went through you last 50 posts, seeing 2 different speaking styles again, as one of you speaks more intelligently than the other.

Many of deported illegals end up here again. Forget fighting terrorism overseas, we need to fight illegal immigration in our back yard now.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 28, 2016

Busted, I know what your doing.

Do tell.

Deo-nonfortuna

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Jul 28, 2016

Yes and no. Painting millions of people with such broad strokes is unfair and downplays how the US governments worked to destabilize its neighboring countries while profiting from the cheap labor undocumented immigrants provide to the US economy.

These illegals pay billions in taxes and in the clunky way that governments work produce the people the US needs in order to prosper and fend off aging of the population.

This is why the border is intentionally penetrable. If the government intended to be able to find any person in the country, which as I understand is why controls are so intense, they could implement obligation to register.

Of course our government's letting them in here on purpose for the reasons you've cited, but here's the grim consequence for that. When Cuba had severe rodent problems on their sugar cane farms, they brought mongooses from India, and soon the rodent population was decimated. However, when mongooses no longer had rats to feast on, they started to attack chickens and other livestock. We're inviting future troubles to solve current troubles

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Jul 28, 2016

Do tell.

Telling us you a white male who doesn't fear Trump, why do our elections even matter to you ?

Tell us White male, or because you're not actually black, so therefore your White?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Jul 28, 2016

Yes and no. Painting millions of people with such broad strokes is unfair and downplays how the US governments worked to destabilize its neighboring countries while profiting from the cheap labor undocumented immigrants provide to the US economy.

These illegals pay billions in taxes and in the clunky way that governments work produce the people the US needs in order to prosper and fend off aging of the population.

This is why the border is intentionally penetrable. If the government intended to be able to find any person in the country, which as I understand is why controls are so intense, they could implement obligation to register.

illegals do not pay billions in taxes, most of them work under the table and pay no tax at all, or SS, or Medicare, or property tax, they collect welfare on top of their under the table wage.

Many of them file tax returns here and claim 15 dependants and get a big chunk of money they never even paid./

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 28, 2016

Telling us you a white male who doesn't fear Trump, why do our elections even matter to you ?

Tell us White male, or because you're not actually black, so therefore your White?

 They dont matter to me any more than I like to stay current on world events.

 

As for your second  statement, what did you want to express, as it is it's unintelligible. I never claimed to be black. Maybe you got me mixed up with somebody else?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 28, 2016

I am far from PC Cupcake and I never retreat.

You chose that Avatar to make yourself bigger then who you really are, calling yourself King, yikes!

Now go back to putting labels on books, people and everything else that scares you.

You're far from left wing PC, but you;re still extremely PC.

I chose this avatar because it fits my username, some people have creativity when picking their internet usernames. 

More PC from the queen of right wing PC.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 28, 2016

Illegal's commit less crime ?, they are all criminals as they broke our laws coming here.

Oh and I went through you last 50 posts, seeing 2 different speaking styles again, as one of you speaks more intelligently than the other.

Yes because they WANT to be here and WE NEED THEM. The last thing they want to do is have the immigration cops know they exist and thus they don't commit crimes apart from a few bad apples. Our immigration process is the hardest in the world to get through, it takes an average of 16 years to become a citizen. If the US and Mexico were reversed you would just cross illegally as well. 

Ah, now i get it, believe it or not i have a life and so depending on how crappy or amazing my day is going i'll either try to talk you like an adult or i'll just explain facts at a level you can understand.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 28, 2016

Yes because they WANT to be here and WE NEED THEM. The last thing they want to do is have the immigration cops know they exist and thus they don't commit crimes apart from a few bad apples. Our immigration process is the hardest in the world to get through, it takes an average of 16 years to become a citizen. If the US and Mexico were reversed you would just cross illegally as well. 

Ah, now i get it, believe it or not i have a life and so depending on how crappy or amazing my day is going i'll either try to talk you like an adult or i'll just explain facts at a level you can understand.

We don't need them, few bad apples, go to Detroit....few, brainwashed.

There are 2 of you, talking down to me and showing me how insecure you are doesn't change that fact.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 28, 2016

You're far from left wing PC, but you;re still extremely PC.

I chose this avatar because it fits my username, some people have creativity when picking their internet usernames. 

More PC from the queen of right wing PC.

You're Cupcake of the earth, you are not a warrior, just a crybaby who posts links to left wing rags, written by more crybabies.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Deo-nonfortuna on Jul 28, 2016

First of all, I've never said jack didley about illegals not paying taxes or go on welfare. Yea, I'm sure they pay sales tax after a meal at McDonald's and of course they're not eligible for welfare. Second of all u said everything else I said was far detached from reality? LOL so Mr. bleeding heart pinko, we don't have any illegal-related problems I mentioned here?

U belong in a commie China or N Korea or better yet, in a looney bin. Go work on ur reading comprehension.

Undocumented immigrants are somewhere between sunshine and ice cream on the list of problems in this country. Our screwed up immigration system though is a big concern. Pulling the communist card is so 2nd grade level childishness. Hell North Korea is run under Juche which is a RIGHT WING system mixed with old fashioned Right Wing Authoritarianism. North Korea is a right wing heaven. China is also extremely right wing. Go read up on basic economics, politics, philosophy and writing.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Deo-nonfortuna on Jul 28, 2016

Of course our government's letting them in here on purpose for the reasons you've cited, but here's the grim consequence for that. When Cuba had severe rodent problems on their sugar cane farms, they brought mongooses from India, and soon the rodent population was decimated. However, when mongooses no longer had rats to feast on, they started to attack chickens and other livestock. We're inviting future troubles to solve current troubles

How nice, you really don't see a problem in identifying humans with animals? Oh yes because there was anyy bad consequences when human beings were compared to undesirable creatures like rodents, 1940's Germany was such a peaceful place and they used it a lot. I had to go there, it is literal word for word.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 28, 2016

We don't need them, few bad apples, go to Detroit....few, brainwashed.

There are 2 of you, talking down to me and showing me how insecure you are doesn't change that fact.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/undocumented-workers-immigration-alabama

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/27/alabama-immigration-law-colbert-i-told-you-so_n_1035165.html 

Alabama being Alabama went full racist on "illegals" and the results were disastrous because WE NEED THEM. You are not going to work for $7.25 an hour (Most likely less) for 16 hours a day 7 days a week and neither will i or any other "legal" resident of this country.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 28, 2016

We don't need them, few bad apples, go to Detroit....few, brainwashed.

There are 2 of you, talking down to me and showing me how insecure you are doesn't change that fact.

Nope, just me. Talking to you adult to adult has clearly failed so i need to go down to your educational level (1st grade maybe). I'm not the one who shown time and again an inability to express oneself as an adult (or even a teenager). Find one source validating anything you said, i dare you (Daily Caller and Breitbart do NOT count as sources).

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Left wing, right wing.....it's still the same dirty bird...

Hillary has too much blood on her hands, and it's her or Trump.

Trump has crossed party lines depending on what was on the table....and I like that....Once the crap slinging is done, I think he'll be able to negotiate across the aisle.

Illegal immigration is just that....illegal...If they come by breaking our laws, we cannot expect them to abide the laws....

Maybe some of those resources spent causing turmoil in the middle east (oil and poppies anyone) and elsewhere could be used to secure our border, and rebuild our economy....and why doesn't anyone consider Mexico and other South American countries "regimes" when it comes to refugee crises? Heck ...THEY are our next door neighbors! We need to fix here, before trying to fix everywhere else.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 28, 2016

Nope, just me. Talking to you adult to adult has clearly failed so i need to go down to your educational level (1st grade maybe). I'm not the one who shown time and again an inability to express oneself as an adult (or even a teenager). Find one source validating anything you said, i dare you (Daily Caller and Breitbart do NOT count as sources).

you are beyond help.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 28, 2016

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/undocumented-workers-immigration-alabama

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/27/alabama-immigration-law-colbert-i-told-you-so_n_1035165.html 

Alabama being Alabama went full racist on "illegals" and the results were disastrous because WE NEED THEM. You are not going to work for $7.25 an hour (Most likely less) for 16 hours a day 7 days a week and neither will i or any other "legal" resident of this country.

Well kingocupcake, our jouney ends. You are blocked.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 28, 2016

you are beyond help.

What gets me is this: "Daily Caller and Breitbart do NOT count as sources" and yet kingofderp trots out links to MSNBC and HuffPo. (which, according to him, are right-wing sites, right?)   He's established himself as a liar multiple times in this thread alone,  now by his own most recent words he's proved he's also a hypocrite.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Jul 29, 2016

What gets me is this: "Daily Caller and Breitbart do NOT count as sources" and yet kingofderp trots out links to MSNBC and HuffPo. (which, according to him, are right-wing sites, right?)   He's established himself as a liar multiple times in this thread alone,  now by his own most recent words he's proved he's also a hypocrite.

Exactly, He's been brainwashed. I blocked him, he's a fanatic.

I believe there are 2 people posting.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 29, 2016

Exactly, He's been brainwashed. I blocked him, he's a fanatic.

I believe there are 2 people posting.

Yep, his parents need to be slapped for raising him the way they did.   His ignorance is massive.  We had a name for college boys working the summers out on the drilling rigs:  "educated worms".

It's getting to be where you can't tell the sock puppets in here without a scorecard.  Not sure who his other persona is - or was - but I'm sure he is/was just as clueless in that one, too.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Jul 29, 2016

Yep, his parents need to be slapped for raising him the way they did.   His ignorance is massive.  We had a name for college boys working the summers out on the drilling rigs:  "educated worms".

It's getting to be where you can't tell the sock puppets in here without a scorecard.  Not sure who his other persona is - or was - but I'm sure he is/was just as clueless in that one, too.

yep, on all counts.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 29, 2016

Well kingocupcake, our jouney ends. You are blocked.

I ask for sources to back up even one thing you've ever said, this is your answer. It shows your age (6 years old) quite well.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 28, 2016

Yes because they WANT to be here and WE NEED THEM. The last thing they want to do is have the immigration cops know they exist and thus they don't commit crimes apart from a few bad apples. Our immigration process is the hardest in the world to get through, it takes an average of 16 years to become a citizen. If the US and Mexico were reversed you would just cross illegally as well. 

Ah, now i get it, believe it or not i have a life and so depending on how crappy or amazing my day is going i'll either try to talk you like an adult or i'll just explain facts at a level you can understand.

Oh you who deal in 'facts', do some research om crossing the border INTO Mexico from the south of their country. 

If you're out to set a record for getting blocked by the most members in the fastest time you just might do it. 

You're very quick to jump to conclusions, attack people you don't even know, and just make stuff up, like right wing pc.

You're truly delusional, get some help.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Jul 29, 2016

What gets me is this: "Daily Caller and Breitbart do NOT count as sources" and yet kingofderp trots out links to MSNBC and HuffPo. (which, according to him, are right-wing sites, right?)   He's established himself as a liar multiple times in this thread alone,  now by his own most recent words he's proved he's also a hypocrite.

Sites that are well maintained and protected against someone just spewing nonsense are acceptable sources. My offer extends to your challenge. Show one instance of me saying anything that is contradictory or incorrect i dare you. You know such things don't exist.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Jul 29, 2016

Yep, his parents need to be slapped for raising him the way they did.   His ignorance is massive.  We had a name for college boys working the summers out on the drilling rigs:  "educated worms".

It's getting to be where you can't tell the sock puppets in here without a scorecard.  Not sure who his other persona is - or was - but I'm sure he is/was just as clueless in that one, too.

I post sources backing up my arguments

Sully 6 year old does not 

You really think i'm the ignorant one?

You call me ignorannt, then say that being educated is bad? You really should stop trying to demomnize education but hey you live in the state that changed its textbooks to include basic Wrong information before it caused outrage and they were ordered to change it back.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Jul 29, 2016

Oh you who deal in 'facts', do some research om crossing the border INTO Mexico from the south of their country. 

If you're out to set a record for getting blocked by the most members in the fastest time you just might do it. 

You're very quick to jump to conclusions, attack people you don't even know, and just make stuff up, like right wing pc.

You're truly delusional, get some help.

I have, your point being? it is completely different than what Trump is proposing. One is to stop human trafficking and the other would have us declaring bankruptcy from the sheer cost. you should look up the Schengen area

Any honest observer can see who  the adult is and who isn't, i prefer to only talk to adults.

I jump to no conclusion, only facts or peer-reviewed hypotheses. I am not the one screaming " Rich people are better that's why they're rich" or other total nonsense.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 29, 2016

Sites that are well maintained and protected against someone just spewing nonsense are acceptable sources. My offer extends to your challenge. Show one instance of me saying anything that is contradictory or incorrect i dare you. You know such things don't exist.

You mean sites such as HuffPo that delete comments that don't fit their disingenuous narrative?

Show you ONE instance? I could show you dozens - nearly every time you've posted, nearly every thing you've said.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 29, 2016

I post sources backing up my arguments

Sully 6 year old does not 

You really think i'm the ignorant one?

You call me ignorannt, then say that being educated is bad? You really should stop trying to demomnize education but hey you live in the state that changed its textbooks to include basic Wrong information before it caused outrage and they were ordered to change it back.

I'd say you're more "clueless" than "ignorannt" (sic), although for a college boy you're not exactly a poster child for the benefits of higher education.

I never did "demomnize" (sic) education, but didn't want to waste time and words explaining to you that I do NOT think education is a bad thing, only that it involves learning about all aspects of an historical event or the reasons why, not some biased view that only validates your own viewpoint.

I also never said being educated is bad.  There you go lying again. 

Speaking of states, New York shows how dishonest the majority of inhabitants of that state are by electing the dishonest Hillary Clinton.  I know people in NYC are dumb because I watched "Cash Cab".

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Jul 29, 2016

You mean sites such as HuffPo that delete comments that don't fit their disingenuous narrative?

Show you ONE instance? I could show you dozens - nearly every time you've posted, nearly every thing you've said.

Then do it, show us something this contradictory or factually incorrect.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Jul 29, 2016

I'd say you're more "clueless" than "ignorannt" (sic), although for a college boy you're not exactly a poster child for the benefits of higher education.

I never did "demomnize" (sic) education, but didn't want to waste time and words explaining to you that I do NOT think education is a bad thing, only that it involves learning about all aspects of an historical event or the reasons why, not some biased view that only validates your own viewpoint.

I also never said being educated is bad.  There you go lying again. 

Speaking of states, New York shows how dishonest the majority of inhabitants of that state are by electing the dishonest Hillary Clinton.  I know people in NYC are dumb because I watched "Cash Cab".

Um, I spend most of my time in Upstste which went heavily for Bernie. If I only wanted to hear my biased viewpoints I would get a blog or a forum devoted to such but I don't. I want to hear all different viewpoints and ideas and give my viewpoints and ideas in an adult manner that includes giving sources and accepting when you're wrong, whether politics, lottery, history or any other topic.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

You've said LOTS of things that weren't true;  nearly every thing about "red" states or trying to prove a point with military statistics, many other things.  I didn't like reading your drivel the first time, why should I suffer through it again?  If your posts were on paper, they'd have some use in the bathroom.

As has been mentioned, you can't be bothered by "facts" except those that support your narrow viewpoint and world view.   Just as you've set pre-conditions for what links are acceptable or not, I automatically impeach your sources.   Your type of an "open mind" is good only to serve as an ashtray or urinal.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Jul 29, 2016

You've said LOTS of things that weren't true;  nearly every thing about "red" states or trying to prove a point with military statistics, many other things.  I didn't like reading your drivel the first time, why should I suffer through it again?  If your posts were on paper, they'd have some use in the bathroom.

As has been mentioned, you can't be bothered by "facts" except those that support your narrow viewpoint and world view.   Just as you've set pre-conditions for what links are acceptable or not, I automatically impeach your sources.   Your type of an "open mind" is good only to serve as an ashtray or urinal.

This is a guy who believes we should import Mexicans to do the work he doesn't want to do, he has no value on them as humans. 7.25 is beneath a guy who doesn't work at all.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 29, 2016

Um, I spend most of my time in Upstste which went heavily for Bernie. If I only wanted to hear my biased viewpoints I would get a blog or a forum devoted to such but I don't. I want to hear all different viewpoints and ideas and give my viewpoints and ideas in an adult manner that includes giving sources and accepting when you're wrong, whether politics, lottery, history or any other topic.

"I want to hear all different viewpoints...." Yada Yada Yada

SURE you do, right! -wink-

Adult?  Good grief, your definition is different than the one I know.  How many times have you used "Christian Taliban"?  How many times have you made up some statistic about red states?  How many times did YOU start the name-calling first, how many times did you intentionally try to troll someone?  I don't know the exact number, but I'd say a bunch.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Jul 29, 2016

"I want to hear all different viewpoints...." Yada Yada Yada

SURE you do, right! -wink-

Adult?  Good grief, your definition is different than the one I know.  How many times have you used "Christian Taliban"?  How many times have you made up some statistic about red states?  How many times did YOU start the name-calling first, how many times did you intentionally try to troll someone?  I don't know the exact number, but I'd say a bunch.

1) Christian taliban is an accurate term to describe some members of both parties who seek to forcibly bring religion into our lives. 2) I don't make them up, you can research yourself. If you find something wrong, PLEASE let me know so I can know that is wrong information. 3) Never started the name-calling, always in reply to a lot of name calling. 4) Never tried to intentionally troll anyone, The exact number for the latter two is Zero. The first one is probably a bunch and the second one is by definition something that I can't answer.

dr65's avatardr65

Someone said Trump does not think before he opens his mouth. I think I like that better

than someone who has thought too much before they open their's. Trump has my vote.

Obama is a fail. I remember how many people were so happy when he won. How were his

lies different from anyone else's? Are those people happy now like they were then? I doubt it.

Obamacare is a joke and so is he, I'll be so glad when he's gone. 

Voters need to come to their own conclusions about who is best for this country. Stop listening

to opinions of the media, watchdog groups and the opposite party. People are either too weak,

confused or afraid to stand alone as if just going with the brainwashed public opinion of who

will do right for us is the only choice whether they fully agree with the notion or not. Some of

them dont know why they're supporting someone but will go with the flow because to them it

feels comfortable and right and how can so many others be wrong?

Hillary is a choice worse than Obama. Same political party, same Democratic bull but this

one is a woman. Obama was a first, you don't think the honor of being another first hasn't crossed

her mind? She wants this very badly. She'll lie, cheat and bash as well as the rest of them and if

elected will continue on leading this country down the drain. Not having a humble bone in your 

body leads to treachery and arrogance leads to poor judgement. Give me Trumps plan of action

any day over a woman with something to prove. Every time she raises her hands while spewing her

garbage to the brainwashed masses, I think of the devil summoning his legion of evil doing servants.

I see no evil in Trump but if let my mind be manipulated in the way the oposition wants it to be, we have

no choice but to waste more time with the same ideas and agenda we've been subjected to in 8 years.

Even if Trump loses I'll know I didn't go with the flow and vote in the disaster named Hillary. She's sly

in a bad way, calculating and conniving. She knew she had to keep Bill around for a reason and this is it.

I'm not willing to elect someone who compromises principals to reach a personal goal. Anything goes in

politics, they're all wrapped up in the fantasy that they do the best they can. I want Trump's brand of reality.

Not the political correctness that is doing nothing to change this country in the way it needs to change.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Nice post dr65! Like yourself, I agree that some of the things coming out of Donald Trumps aren't exactly well thought out and pre-planned. I just want him to tone down some of his logic. I feel he truly want wants to make America great again while Hillary is sticking to her Saul Alinsky game plan in order to achieve absolute power.

The supreme court will be altered for generations if she is elected and having predominantly liberal justices is one of my biggest fears.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Jul 29, 2016

Someone said Trump does not think before he opens his mouth. I think I like that better

than someone who has thought too much before they open their's. Trump has my vote.

Obama is a fail. I remember how many people were so happy when he won. How were his

lies different from anyone else's? Are those people happy now like they were then? I doubt it.

Obamacare is a joke and so is he, I'll be so glad when he's gone. 

Voters need to come to their own conclusions about who is best for this country. Stop listening

to opinions of the media, watchdog groups and the opposite party. People are either too weak,

confused or afraid to stand alone as if just going with the brainwashed public opinion of who

will do right for us is the only choice whether they fully agree with the notion or not. Some of

them dont know why they're supporting someone but will go with the flow because to them it

feels comfortable and right and how can so many others be wrong?

Hillary is a choice worse than Obama. Same political party, same Democratic bull but this

one is a woman. Obama was a first, you don't think the honor of being another first hasn't crossed

her mind? She wants this very badly. She'll lie, cheat and bash as well as the rest of them and if

elected will continue on leading this country down the drain. Not having a humble bone in your 

body leads to treachery and arrogance leads to poor judgement. Give me Trumps plan of action

any day over a woman with something to prove. Every time she raises her hands while spewing her

garbage to the brainwashed masses, I think of the devil summoning his legion of evil doing servants.

I see no evil in Trump but if let my mind be manipulated in the way the oposition wants it to be, we have

no choice but to waste more time with the same ideas and agenda we've been subjected to in 8 years.

Even if Trump loses I'll know I didn't go with the flow and vote in the disaster named Hillary. She's sly

in a bad way, calculating and conniving. She knew she had to keep Bill around for a reason and this is it.

I'm not willing to elect someone who compromises principals to reach a personal goal. Anything goes in

politics, they're all wrapped up in the fantasy that they do the best they can. I want Trump's brand of reality.

Not the political correctness that is doing nothing to change this country in the way it needs to change.

       I Agree!  Very well said dr65... and we do need a change.. almost 8 years of Obama and we are worst off now than when he came into office and if Hillary get's in we will have at least another 4 years of the same thing... that Obamacare has put more people into debt...and I am  a witness to that.. cause my insurance premium went up 3 times after this Obamacare went into effect...and they just raised their premiums again....and I am still  paying on medical bills and than to be taxed at income tax time if you don't have insurance... that is crazy... some people I know had to pay 600 or more dollars in taxes cause they didn't have the Obamacare Insurance...these are the worst insurance plans that I have ever seen in my life...all they do is put you more into debt...

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Jul 29, 2016

       I Agree!  Very well said dr65... and we do need a change.. almost 8 years of Obama and we are worst off now than when he came into office and if Hillary get's in we will have at least another 4 years of the same thing... that Obamacare has put more people into debt...and I am  a witness to that.. cause my insurance premium went up 3 times after this Obamacare went into effect...and they just raised their premiums again....and I am still  paying on medical bills and than to be taxed at income tax time if you don't have insurance... that is crazy... some people I know had to pay 600 or more dollars in taxes cause they didn't have the Obamacare Insurance...these are the worst insurance plans that I have ever seen in my life...all they do is put you more into debt...

If you thought obamacare was bad before, just wait until 2017.  The insurance provided by your employer used to be a tax free benefit, not anymore.  Next year the money from your employer towards health insurance (I think over 10K) will be considered your income and you will be taxed 40% on that amount.  I belong to a union and the contractor I work for contributes about 13K for my insurance, well next year I will have to pay tax on that 13K.  Sucks!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Jul 29, 2016

If you thought obamacare was bad before, just wait until 2017.  The insurance provided by your employer used to be a tax free benefit, not anymore.  Next year the money from your employer towards health insurance (I think over 10K) will be considered your income and you will be taxed 40% on that amount.  I belong to a union and the contractor I work for contributes about 13K for my insurance, well next year I will have to pay tax on that 13K.  Sucks!

2017, scary stuff.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 29, 2016

2017, scary stuff.

Yes and he and Michelle get to go out gracefully with smiles on their faces

and stories to tell...him on how he made sure America had health insurance

(but penalized lots) her with her healthy school lunch program (designed to

stop unhealthy choices in school...a grape, a 1/2 oz of milk and 1/4 of a

Cornish hen breast) 

Lots will suffer and greenbay, that is sad stuff. I want the real America back.

Dee I'm sure a lot of other people like your $600 example exist. They don't want to

dwell on that...they want us accepting, conforming and peaceful and nodding our

heads and telling them great job! Bs...they should be forced to live what some of

these people are...then come tell me you care. They'd be in line making changes

so fast our heads would spin. I dont care if Trump is rich and certainly dont give

a da mn about his tax returns. Is someone looking for crooked?...grow up people

open your eyes and get your country back from the tyrants that currently run it.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Jul 29, 2016

Nice post dr65! Like yourself, I agree that some of the things coming out of Donald Trumps aren't exactly well thought out and pre-planned. I just want him to tone down some of his logic. I feel he truly want wants to make America great again while Hillary is sticking to her Saul Alinsky game plan in order to achieve absolute power.

The supreme court will be altered for generations if she is elected and having predominantly liberal justices is one of my biggest fears.

Saul Alinsky was a community organizer who wanted to help those who didn't have any power. Does that sound like Hillary to you? Trump's patriotism is not disputable, his ability to not change his mind on every issue every 3 seconds though is another question. Oh yes because having Supreme Court justices that believe that Satan is walking among us (real Scalia quote) is so not insane and dangerous.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Jul 29, 2016

       I Agree!  Very well said dr65... and we do need a change.. almost 8 years of Obama and we are worst off now than when he came into office and if Hillary get's in we will have at least another 4 years of the same thing... that Obamacare has put more people into debt...and I am  a witness to that.. cause my insurance premium went up 3 times after this Obamacare went into effect...and they just raised their premiums again....and I am still  paying on medical bills and than to be taxed at income tax time if you don't have insurance... that is crazy... some people I know had to pay 600 or more dollars in taxes cause they didn't have the Obamacare Insurance...these are the worst insurance plans that I have ever seen in my life...all they do is put you more into debt...

That's extreme right wing conservatism for you. The far-right Obamacare comes from the 1990's Heritage Foundation. Elect a Leftist, or even a centrist like Sanders and you'd get very different results.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Heard an interesting rumor on the radio today.  Bernie Sanders might join Jill Stein in the race for the white house.  Stein/Sanders?  OMG!  Buy your fruitcakes before Christmas because they're going to be gone by November.  Crazy

Romancandle's avatarRomancandle

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 29, 2016

2017, scary stuff.

Only thing we have to fear is fear itself

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 29, 2016

Um, I spend most of my time in Upstste which went heavily for Bernie. If I only wanted to hear my biased viewpoints I would get a blog or a forum devoted to such but I don't. I want to hear all different viewpoints and ideas and give my viewpoints and ideas in an adult manner that includes giving sources and accepting when you're wrong, whether politics, lottery, history or any other topic.

"I want to hear all different viewpoints and ideas and give my viewpoints and ideas in an adult manner"

Good luck with that! ROFL

Four years ago I posted an excerpt from the Republican National platform calling for the banning of all forms of Online gambling and when they ran out of lame arguments, the insults started. Sound familiar? The good news is (maybe because the Republican nominee is a casino owner), for the first time in 12 years, the ban is no longer in the platform.

As for viewpoints, people on this thread are calling for change and if nominating a women for president isn't change, I'd like to hear what they call change.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Re: Community Organizer such as Alinsky:

Community organizing

Community organizing is a process where people who live in proximity to each other come together into an organization that acts in their shared self-interest. Unlike those who promote more-consensual community building, community organizers generally assume that social change necessarily involves conflict and social struggle in order to generate collective power for the powerless.

Community organizing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

See more about Community organizing
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For those that don't get it just read the Communist Manifesto 10 planks.
Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 30, 2016

"I want to hear all different viewpoints and ideas and give my viewpoints and ideas in an adult manner"

Good luck with that! ROFL

Four years ago I posted an excerpt from the Republican National platform calling for the banning of all forms of Online gambling and when they ran out of lame arguments, the insults started. Sound familiar? The good news is (maybe because the Republican nominee is a casino owner), for the first time in 12 years, the ban is no longer in the platform.

As for viewpoints, people on this thread are calling for change and if nominating a women for president isn't change, I'd like to hear what they call change.

It figures that you would think just because Hillary is a woman she automatically deserves to be appointed president. Never mind the fact that if her last name wasn't Clinton and she had perpetrated just 1/10th of the criminal activities that the FBI accused her of she would be in jail.

The entire government and a large majority of congress is beyond corrupt. Being delusional about your party is another reason why our country is getting destroyed from within.

Romancandle's avatarRomancandle

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Jul 30, 2016

It figures that you would think just because Hillary is a woman she automatically deserves to be appointed president. Never mind the fact that if her last name wasn't Clinton and she had perpetrated just 1/10th of the criminal activities that the FBI accused her of she would be in jail.

The entire government and a large majority of congress is beyond corrupt. Being delusional about your party is another reason why our country is getting destroyed from within.

I don't think he said that Drenick1... His point was change...

I do agree with you though, we need to change a broken system that serves the few at the expense of many.

How? That's the rub...

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 30, 2016

"I want to hear all different viewpoints and ideas and give my viewpoints and ideas in an adult manner"

Good luck with that! ROFL

Four years ago I posted an excerpt from the Republican National platform calling for the banning of all forms of Online gambling and when they ran out of lame arguments, the insults started. Sound familiar? The good news is (maybe because the Republican nominee is a casino owner), for the first time in 12 years, the ban is no longer in the platform.

As for viewpoints, people on this thread are calling for change and if nominating a women for president isn't change, I'd like to hear what they call change.

Shoulda told me this before I tried to correct them. It's hard though to let such absurdly incorrect nonsense get spewed without pointing out facts.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Jul 30, 2016

It figures that you would think just because Hillary is a woman she automatically deserves to be appointed president. Never mind the fact that if her last name wasn't Clinton and she had perpetrated just 1/10th of the criminal activities that the FBI accused her of she would be in jail.

The entire government and a large majority of congress is beyond corrupt. Being delusional about your party is another reason why our country is getting destroyed from within.

"It figures that you would think just because Hillary is a woman she automatically deserves to be appointed president."

How is it that Romancandle understood my point but you can't?

"a large majority of congress is beyond corrupt"

The last time I looked the Republicans controlled the House and Senate.

"Being delusional about your party is another reason why our country is getting destroyed from within."

What is delusional about me remarking that the first woman elected president would be a change? 

It would be a change if we had the first Canadian born (Cruz) or fired CEO of a major corporation (Carly Fiorina) elected president too. Is this the type of change you're talking about?

"Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?!" I mean, she's a woman, and I'm not s'posedta say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?" and "I just realized that if you listen to Carly Fiorina for more than ten minutes straight, you develop a massive headache. She has zero chance!"

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Jul 29, 2016

       I Agree!  Very well said dr65... and we do need a change.. almost 8 years of Obama and we are worst off now than when he came into office and if Hillary get's in we will have at least another 4 years of the same thing... that Obamacare has put more people into debt...and I am  a witness to that.. cause my insurance premium went up 3 times after this Obamacare went into effect...and they just raised their premiums again....and I am still  paying on medical bills and than to be taxed at income tax time if you don't have insurance... that is crazy... some people I know had to pay 600 or more dollars in taxes cause they didn't have the Obamacare Insurance...these are the worst insurance plans that I have ever seen in my life...all they do is put you more into debt...

Voting for Hilbeast is just voting for the same thing again after 8 years of Obummer. It's time to elect someone that's not a career politician that will actually try to change America for the better.

Voting for the same kind of politician AGAIN and expecting different results is insanity.

American Indian's avatarAmerican Indian

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Jul 26, 2016

Trump is by far the greatest Teflon candidate for president we have ever seen.Lesser politicians would have been history for saying the following:

We Need a Wall. McCain is no hero.

Say what you will,  the guy has a pair.

WOW??? Where to start??? I was Born and Raised in Arizona Minus the 10yrs I lived in Kentucky as an adult, My Grandparents Were Born NATIVE AMERICANS In Oklahoma!

I don't & never have liked McCain but he did serve our Country and was a POW!

Arizona was part of Mexico before becoming a US State!

Trump has never held a Public Office so he's not a Politician! All but 1 of his wives was not BORN A US Citizen, so by his words his current Wife should BE THE FIRST TO BE DEPORTED!

There is a WALL IN Part of AZ, They Have Tunnels in Mexico And have for at least 30yrs I know of (that's when the 1st was found) to get into the US!

When Trump don't want to pay his bill's or gets Divorced he hides HIS money and Files Bankruptcy!

What Trump has is YELLOW (BAD DYE JOB) HAIR AND PROBABLY OWNS A GLUE FACTORY IN CHINA TO HOLD HIS HAIR IN PLACE!!!! 

HILLARY IS GOING TO STOMP ON TRUMP LIKE OBAMA DID McCAIN IN PRESIDENT OBAMA'S FIRST RACE FOR PRESIDENT! Party

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by American Indian on Jul 31, 2016

WOW??? Where to start??? I was Born and Raised in Arizona Minus the 10yrs I lived in Kentucky as an adult, My Grandparents Were Born NATIVE AMERICANS In Oklahoma!

I don't & never have liked McCain but he did serve our Country and was a POW!

Arizona was part of Mexico before becoming a US State!

Trump has never held a Public Office so he's not a Politician! All but 1 of his wives was not BORN A US Citizen, so by his words his current Wife should BE THE FIRST TO BE DEPORTED!

There is a WALL IN Part of AZ, They Have Tunnels in Mexico And have for at least 30yrs I know of (that's when the 1st was found) to get into the US!

When Trump don't want to pay his bill's or gets Divorced he hides HIS money and Files Bankruptcy!

What Trump has is YELLOW (BAD DYE JOB) HAIR AND PROBABLY OWNS A GLUE FACTORY IN CHINA TO HOLD HIS HAIR IN PLACE!!!! 

HILLARY IS GOING TO STOMP ON TRUMP LIKE OBAMA DID McCAIN IN PRESIDENT OBAMA'S FIRST RACE FOR PRESIDENT! Party

Hey...His current wife is a legal immigrant.  You do know the difference between legal and illegal don't you?   BTW Hillary is about as corrupt as any politician has ever been.  Also, look at her eyes when she speaks...She's nuts.

American Indian's avatarAmerican Indian

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Jul 31, 2016

Hey...His current wife is a legal immigrant.  You do know the difference between legal and illegal don't you?   BTW Hillary is about as corrupt as any politician has ever been.  Also, look at her eyes when she speaks...She's nuts.

YES, I live in a State where the MAJORITY of people are from someplace else!

My Grandparents on 1 side were Migrant workers of Our Own Land before we let the IMMIGRANTS in off the BOATS! My Grandparents on the other side Had Migrant workers working our land, NEVER EVER treated them different then any other person in Town. 

I have lived with both LEGAL & ILLEGAL Immigrants my whole life, their are a lot of Illegal Immigrants that come here to work hard send money to their Families and want to be LEGAL have a safe place to live in this Country because their not safe where they are with their Families, Yes their are those that have a different reason and do need to be DEPORTED!

I Logged back in because I forgot to put in my last reply, LOOK AT THE MESS PRESIDENT OBAMA INHERITED From Bush when he got into Office!

Bush was going to take us BACK to WAR to Finish what his daddy started before 9/11 even happened Bush Had enough Intel given to him to know what was about too happen and he IGNORED it, was the excuse he needed!!!! I know People in the DOJ, That stands for DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, In case you didn't know???

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Jul 30, 2016

It figures that you would think just because Hillary is a woman she automatically deserves to be appointed president. Never mind the fact that if her last name wasn't Clinton and she had perpetrated just 1/10th of the criminal activities that the FBI accused her of she would be in jail.

The entire government and a large majority of congress is beyond corrupt. Being delusional about your party is another reason why our country is getting destroyed from within.

He does not get that most people do not vote for someone based on gender or race. Hillary and I may have similar educational backgrounds, but it ends there. I want to see the correct and honest woman in the Whitehouse, not any woman.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by American Indian on Jul 31, 2016

YES, I live in a State where the MAJORITY of people are from someplace else!

My Grandparents on 1 side were Migrant workers of Our Own Land before we let the IMMIGRANTS in off the BOATS! My Grandparents on the other side Had Migrant workers working our land, NEVER EVER treated them different then any other person in Town. 

I have lived with both LEGAL & ILLEGAL Immigrants my whole life, their are a lot of Illegal Immigrants that come here to work hard send money to their Families and want to be LEGAL have a safe place to live in this Country because their not safe where they are with their Families, Yes their are those that have a different reason and do need to be DEPORTED!

I Logged back in because I forgot to put in my last reply, LOOK AT THE MESS PRESIDENT OBAMA INHERITED From Bush when he got into Office!

Bush was going to take us BACK to WAR to Finish what his daddy started before 9/11 even happened Bush Had enough Intel given to him to know what was about too happen and he IGNORED it, was the excuse he needed!!!! I know People in the DOJ, That stands for DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, In case you didn't know???

I'm sure you know the recession that obama inherited was caused by the democrats.  Bill Clinton repealed the glass steagall act...That was a law passed by congress after the great depression.  It prohibited commercial banks from acting like investment banks.  That coupled with the democrat "community investment act" which gave no money down mortgages to people who couldn't afford the payments.  Democrats caused the recession of 2008.

And if there were any JUSTICE in the DOJ, Hillary would be indicted by now.  Yea so keep blaming Bush, Bush, Bush.  I was no great Bush fan but I sure the heck am a Trump fan.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by American Indian on Jul 31, 2016

YES, I live in a State where the MAJORITY of people are from someplace else!

My Grandparents on 1 side were Migrant workers of Our Own Land before we let the IMMIGRANTS in off the BOATS! My Grandparents on the other side Had Migrant workers working our land, NEVER EVER treated them different then any other person in Town. 

I have lived with both LEGAL & ILLEGAL Immigrants my whole life, their are a lot of Illegal Immigrants that come here to work hard send money to their Families and want to be LEGAL have a safe place to live in this Country because their not safe where they are with their Families, Yes their are those that have a different reason and do need to be DEPORTED!

I Logged back in because I forgot to put in my last reply, LOOK AT THE MESS PRESIDENT OBAMA INHERITED From Bush when he got into Office!

Bush was going to take us BACK to WAR to Finish what his daddy started before 9/11 even happened Bush Had enough Intel given to him to know what was about too happen and he IGNORED it, was the excuse he needed!!!! I know People in the DOJ, That stands for DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, In case you didn't know???

The US government receives tons of intelligence daily but I find it highly offensive you saying Pres. Bush knew 9-11 was about to happen. Have you read some of the chattering they were monitoring in the months before? I recall receiving a memo about this increase in "chatter" months before 9-11 but if you can translate that into planes being hijacked and crashed into buildings, you are the greatest genius in the world.

By the way, I have worked in Washington, DC for many years and fled a city we all thought was about to be invaded. And you have the nerve to criticize me for making a comment about the Tennessee lottery winners? What a hypocrite you are. I thanked God every day that Pres. Bush was in charge that day, vs nutty AL Gore. I know far more people in DOJ than you ever will know, and you are nuts. By the way, the State Dept. and FBI and CIA were the primary Departments charged with monitoring foreign communications, not DOJ.

Saylorgirl's avatarSaylorgirl

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Jul 31, 2016

He does not get that most people do not vote for someone based on gender or race. Hillary and I may have similar educational backgrounds, but it ends there. I want to see the correct and honest woman in the Whitehouse, not any woman.

I agree completely!  And preferably one that doesn't steal the silver and china as she leaves the White House!

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Saylorgirl on Jul 31, 2016

I agree completely!  And preferably one that doesn't steal the silver and china as she leaves the White House!

Lol. And they trashed the Whitehouse when they left. Pres. Bush chose to not make a big deal of it because he is such a class act.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Jul 31, 2016

The US government receives tons of intelligence daily but I find it highly offensive you saying Pres. Bush knew 9-11 was about to happen. Have you read some of the chattering they were monitoring in the months before? I recall receiving a memo about this increase in "chatter" months before 9-11 but if you can translate that into planes being hijacked and crashed into buildings, you are the greatest genius in the world.

By the way, I have worked in Washington, DC for many years and fled a city we all thought was about to be invaded. And you have the nerve to criticize me for making a comment about the Tennessee lottery winners? What a hypocrite you are. I thanked God every day that Pres. Bush was in charge that day, vs nutty AL Gore. I know far more people in DOJ than you ever will know, and you are nuts. By the way, the State Dept. and FBI and CIA were the primary Departments charged with monitoring foreign communications, not DOJ.

lol! His rhetoric is getting more bizarre with each post.

I think King of earth and American Indian are siamese twins and may have been separated at birth.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

About 99 days until the election.  By then this thread will hit 60 plus pages.  LOL

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Jul 31, 2016

lol! His rhetoric is getting more bizarre with each post.

I think King of earth and American Indian are siamese twins and may have been separated at birth.

No he and Sully are Siamese twins separated at birth. Both spew whatever comes out of their butts without the slightest idea or care for whether it's true.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 31, 2016

No he and Sully are Siamese twins separated at birth. Both spew whatever comes out of their butts without the slightest idea or care for whether it's true.

Stop  trolling me.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 31, 2016

Stop  trolling me.

You can't stop something you're not doing. I'm not trolling anyone or anything, but you spew whatever comes out of your mouth without the slightest concern for whether it's true and just get extremely defensive when confronted with it. Again, show me one source backing up something you have ever said.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 31, 2016

You can't stop something you're not doing. I'm not trolling anyone or anything, but you spew whatever comes out of your mouth without the slightest concern for whether it's true and just get extremely defensive when confronted with it. Again, show me one source backing up something you have ever said.

You're so full of it you stink, I am not posting entire books to prove what I know to be true.

You live for the left wing rags, believe everything they tell you, you are brainwashed, and you can't see it.

I guessing you spent much of your life getting picked on, now you want revenge, you want a big oppressive government to step in and hurt as many people as possible, taking away their money, their rights, land, jobs and whatever people have that you covet.

You run around they threads trying to sound smart, oh listen to kingodirt.

What you did to Msdufflebags birthday thread was entirely uncalled for.

You hop from thread to thread looking for ways to make others look small and stupid..

You are here to troll for your left wing extreme agenda.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 31, 2016

You're so full of it you stink, I am not posting entire books to prove what I know to be true.

You live for the left wing rags, believe everything they tell you, you are brainwashed, and you can't see it.

I guessing you spent much of your life getting picked on, now you want revenge, you want a big oppressive government to step in and hurt as many people as possible, taking away their money, their rights, land, jobs and whatever people have that you covet.

You run around they threads trying to sound smart, oh listen to kingodirt.

What you did to Msdufflebags birthday thread was entirely uncalled for.

You hop from thread to thread looking for ways to make others look small and stupid..

You are here to troll for your left wing extreme agenda.

I asked for a source and the fact that you can not do so speaks volumes on how ignorant you are. I won't address the rambling nonsense except to say that I asked a fair question on the thread and got a fair response.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 31, 2016

I asked for a source and the fact that you can not do so speaks volumes on how ignorant you are. I won't address the rambling nonsense except to say that I asked a fair question on the thread and got a fair response.

And you can't give any logical source or reason why you would want the government to hurt so many people.

By the way, I like men.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 31, 2016

I asked for a source and the fact that you can not do so speaks volumes on how ignorant you are. I won't address the rambling nonsense except to say that I asked a fair question on the thread and got a fair response.

Well, look who ran off to his hidey hole....

I don't owe you anything, not now not ever. I don't answer to you and nobody here has to answer to you.

Take your demands somewhere else King!

Just who do you think you are telling me what to do.

People, if you want to be oppressed and lose your rights, have no hope for a better future, then by all means vote for Hillary, Jill or even Bernie, this guy is the epitome of what those people stand for.

Do you really want this type of reasoning in your life?

Do you really want to wake up and ask yourself what the heck happened to my hopes and dreams?

Do you really want to see people suffer, just because they may or may not have more then you?

I have to believe most people are good and decent, everyone has happiness and pain.

But, when you oppress the masses, well......draw your own conclusions.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Really too bad ridge isn't around to educate some of these folks. He would have a field day and it would be fun reading.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 31, 2016

And you can't give any logical source or reason why you would want the government to hurt so many people.

By the way, I like men.

Oh yes tell the world how much physical pain you get from filing taxes. All those paper cuts!!!!! The tyranny of paper cuts!!!!!! Tell us again which party advocates the government ban porn, legalize torture.. I mean "corrective therapy" for gay minors, which party advocates for workers to starve rather than be paid a reasonable minimum wage, which party wants to ban the right of two people to marry each other, which party wants invasive and useless ultrasounds just to stop women from getting a legal abortion etc etc.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 31, 2016

Oh yes tell the world how much physical pain you get from filing taxes. All those paper cuts!!!!! The tyranny of paper cuts!!!!!! Tell us again which party advocates the government ban porn, legalize torture.. I mean "corrective therapy" for gay minors, which party advocates for workers to starve rather than be paid a reasonable minimum wage, which party wants to ban the right of two people to marry each other, which party wants invasive and useless ultrasounds just to stop women from getting a legal abortion etc etc.

I'll say this about taxes. I sold some farm property last year and the taxes I paid on my income tax return did hurt. Me and the people I was going to hire to replace the roof on my house. That money could have and should have gone to people working in my community to support their families. Instead the government got it to waste.

You want to throw your money at the government, (assuming you even have a job, I know, that's a stretch), go ahead. I would rather pass, and support those in my community would could use the money.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 31, 2016

Oh yes tell the world how much physical pain you get from filing taxes. All those paper cuts!!!!! The tyranny of paper cuts!!!!!! Tell us again which party advocates the government ban porn, legalize torture.. I mean "corrective therapy" for gay minors, which party advocates for workers to starve rather than be paid a reasonable minimum wage, which party wants to ban the right of two people to marry each other, which party wants invasive and useless ultrasounds just to stop women from getting a legal abortion etc etc.

Child porn and baby killer.

Need I say more people.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Jul 31, 2016

I'll say this about taxes. I sold some farm property last year and the taxes I paid on my income tax return did hurt. Me and the people I was going to hire to replace the roof on my house. That money could have and should have gone to people working in my community to support their families. Instead the government got it to waste.

You want to throw your money at the government, (assuming you even have a job, I know, that's a stretch), go ahead. I would rather pass, and support those in my community would could use the money.

He doesn't work and pay taxes, is worried about porn, needs to address the parents of gay youths who send their kids to some place for correction, that's not political.

Thinks ultra sounds are invasive, lol. Abortion is legal, nobody had the power to stop it unless the Supreme court over turns Wade V. Roe

Ultra sounds are for the mother's protection as abortions are dangerous.

People vote on Gay Marriage, if majority says no, then go to California.

Just because someone doesn't believe in killing babies, does not make them bad people, just people who love babies.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 31, 2016

He doesn't work and pay taxes, is worried about porn, needs to address the parents of gay youths who send their kids to some place for correction, that's not political.

Thinks ultra sounds are invasive, lol. Abortion is legal, nobody had the power to stop it unless the Supreme court over turns Wade V. Roe

Ultra sounds are for the mother's protection as abortions are dangerous.

People vote on Gay Marriage, if majority says no, then go to California.

Just because someone doesn't believe in killing babies, does not make them bad people, just people who love babies.

My blood ran cold when I saw a clip of some DNC speaker mentioning her abortion  and people cheered.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Jul 31, 2016

My blood ran cold when I saw a clip of some DNC speaker mentioning her abortion  and people cheered.

Yea.  And the mother of Michael Brown spoke, the guy who attacked a cop, tried to take his gun and was shot.  What do people expect when they attack a cop.  Also, there were no American flags at the DNC convention for the first two days.  Unbelievable.  The democrats are anti-America.  Anyone who votes for Hillary should get the hell out of this country.  Disgusting group of people.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 31, 2016

Child porn and baby killer.

Need I say more people.

No the Republican Party platform advocates the banning of ADULT CONSENTUAL Porn and you know it.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 31, 2016

He doesn't work and pay taxes, is worried about porn, needs to address the parents of gay youths who send their kids to some place for correction, that's not political.

Thinks ultra sounds are invasive, lol. Abortion is legal, nobody had the power to stop it unless the Supreme court over turns Wade V. Roe

Ultra sounds are for the mother's protection as abortions are dangerous.

People vote on Gay Marriage, if majority says no, then go to California.

Just because someone doesn't believe in killing babies, does not make them bad people, just people who love babies.

I have worked and paid taxes in previous summers. I care about the government not becoming an oppressive theocracy that you so want it to be. You scream OPPRESSION at the slightest tax increase but you want a totalitarian theocracy and you see no irony.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 31, 2016

No the Republican Party platform advocates the banning of ADULT CONSENTUAL Porn and you know it.

Is that the reason why you have so much hatred for the Republican party? it sure seems that way. You are simply a liberal pervert and want everything your way.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Jul 31, 2016

Is that the reason why you have so much hatred for the Republican party? it sure seems that way. You are simply a liberal pervert and want everything your way.

Well Drenick..what do you expect him to do all day living in his parent's basement? Contribute to society???? No....gotta have his porn. Lol Wink  He only works during the summers anyway as he stated. He is way too entitled to work full time.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 31, 2016

I have worked and paid taxes in previous summers. I care about the government not becoming an oppressive theocracy that you so want it to be. You scream OPPRESSION at the slightest tax increase but you want a totalitarian theocracy and you see no irony.

You worry about the United States government becoming an oppressive theocracy?  Really?  Really?  When you paid taxes, did you pay more than the IRS required you to pay?  You can always write them a check for more than you owe.  LOL  Think of all the starving children because you wanted to keep more of the money you earned.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Jul 31, 2016

Really too bad ridge isn't around to educate some of these folks. He would have a field day and it would be fun reading.

WAHHHHHHH I miss Ridge.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Who's Ridge?  Before my time.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 31, 2016

No the Republican Party platform advocates the banning of ADULT CONSENTUAL Porn and you know it.

No it doesn't, I guessing there's a whole lot of them who love it.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Jul 31, 2016

Who's Ridge?  Before my time.

He is my friend and I miss him dearly everyday. He's one of the good guys in America.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Jul 31, 2016

Well Drenick..what do you expect him to do all day living in his parent's basement? Contribute to society???? No....gotta have his porn. Lol Wink  He only works during the summers anyway as he stated. He is way too entitled to work full time.

College guy wants a 15 dollar an hour at mcwhiners.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 31, 2016

He is my friend and I miss him dearly everyday. He's one of the good guys in America.

So what happened?  Did he just stop posting?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Jul 31, 2016

So what happened?  Did he just stop posting?

Yes, Not sure what happened.

rdgrnr is his member name, check him out, he is in my favorite list.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Jul 31, 2016

He does not get that most people do not vote for someone based on gender or race. Hillary and I may have similar educational backgrounds, but it ends there. I want to see the correct and honest woman in the Whitehouse, not any woman.

What I get is the usual hypocrisy any time politics are discussed on LP.

In 2000 and 2008 one party controlled the House and Senate, but the president was from the other party. Today we have the same gridlock. The elections in both 2000 and 2008 resulted in one party in control of all three. 

The last time I looked, repeating history is not change.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 31, 2016

You can't stop something you're not doing. I'm not trolling anyone or anything, but you spew whatever comes out of your mouth without the slightest concern for whether it's true and just get extremely defensive when confronted with it. Again, show me one source backing up something you have ever said.

Speaking of hypocrisy, how is it possible for somebody who claimed they "blocked your posts" to read them?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Jul 31, 2016

So what happened?  Did he just stop posting?

I know what happened, but never could understand why some of the members calling him their "close friend" don't have a clue. The guy created an excellent Archie Bunker type persona and would certainly enjoy this election cycle.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 31, 2016

Speaking of hypocrisy, how is it possible for somebody who claimed they "blocked your posts" to read them?

I blocked you several times over the years, people can change their mind ya know.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 31, 2016

I know what happened, but never could understand why some of the members calling him their "close friend" don't have a clue. The guy created an excellent Archie Bunker type persona and would certainly enjoy this election cycle.

I see you're happy he's not here. I just hope he's okay and just had to walk away, for as much as I don't care for you, I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to you.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 31, 2016

I blocked you several times over the years, people can change their mind ya know.

For the record, I'm still an undecided presidential voter living in a solid red state. And it would be refreshing to read why I should vote for (not against) either candidate.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 31, 2016

For the record, I'm still an undecided presidential voter living in a solid red state. And it would be refreshing to read why I should vote for (not against) either candidate.

I'll tell you my reason for Trump.

To vote for Hilary would be voting for the same as usual politician. We need real change, right now. Will Trump be better than Hilary? Well, that is the great unknown. What I do know is that Hilary is the same as every politician that ran, Repub and Dem during the primaries. I'm glad Cruz, and the rest of the Repubs lost to Trump. Again, we need someone different, now. That is why I did not vote for Cruz, or anyone else in our primary. I voted for Trump. My wife was in disbelief when I told her (she voted for Cruz), but I told her the same thing I saying now. Yeah, Trump has his warts. He's not polished like a career politician. I like that.

You want the same old, same old? Hilary is your choice.

You want someone who can and just might make a difference? Trump.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Jul 31, 2016

Is that the reason why you have so much hatred for the Republican party? it sure seems that way. You are simply a liberal pervert and want everything your way.

DO NOT CALL ME A LIBERAL. I AM A LEFTIST NOT those center-right moderate conservatives Obama and Hillary. I stopped viewing the Republican Party as a legitimate party after the Hurricane Sandy bill got bored down by southern leeches like Rand Paul and Tom Coburn whose states were the biggest munchers of 2012 federal aid. Chris Christie was a hero when he whipped Rand's money sucking butt.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Jul 31, 2016

Well Drenick..what do you expect him to do all day living in his parent's basement? Contribute to society???? No....gotta have his porn. Lol Wink  He only works during the summers anyway as he stated. He is way too entitled to work full time.

I spend most of my time learning things that would make your head spin thank you very much. I've never watched porn at all btw, I'm too busy trying to find s job so that I won't end up like 90% of the southern Republican Party on welfare.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 31, 2016

I see you're happy he's not here. I just hope he's okay and just had to walk away, for as much as I don't care for you, I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to you.

I'm not "happy he's not here" because I know why he isn't.

"I just hope he's okay and just had to walk away "

Why do you think he "had to walk away"?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Jul 31, 2016

You worry about the United States government becoming an oppressive theocracy?  Really?  Really?  When you paid taxes, did you pay more than the IRS required you to pay?  You can always write them a check for more than you owe.  LOL  Think of all the starving children because you wanted to keep more of the money you earned.

There's nothing wrong with only paying the minimum that you need to pay, the only problem is that the minimum is too low to support what the government needs to do.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 31, 2016

For the record, I'm still an undecided presidential voter living in a solid red state. And it would be refreshing to read why I should vote for (not against) either candidate.

You have to decide what you think is best for the collective country.

I listen to what they both have to say, not what someone else says they say.

I know we need jobs, not refugees, I know we need to secure our borders, I also know we need to make coming here easier for those with real skills and desires. Not drug dealers and gun runners.

I know that if you cripple the middle class with excessive tax, they stop spending, thus business suffers and more people lose jobs and prices go up.

I know we have tons of product coming into the country while these countries do not buy our products.

I don't claim to have all the answers, but as far as I see , Trump is a business man who is fed up with the crap our Government and that means all political parties, all getting away with.

They are forgetting they work for us, I don't want a Government that wants me to work for them.

I know we have a current regime trying to chip away at our rights, one that controls much of the media.

One that started class wars, race wars and gender wars. They are following the aslinsky, and Cloward and Piven playbooks. All ya got to do is read them.

One question I still ponder, why did they make sure so many people flooded our border, put these sick people on buses and ship them all over the country. What kind of person does this to their own country?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 31, 2016

I spend most of my time learning things that would make your head spin thank you very much. I've never watched porn at all btw, I'm too busy trying to find s job so that I won't end up like 90% of the southern Republican Party on welfare.

Time to go get the smart guy, your losing.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 31, 2016

I'm not "happy he's not here" because I know why he isn't.

"I just hope he's okay and just had to walk away "

Why do you think he "had to walk away"?

I don't know.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 31, 2016

No it doesn't, I guessing there's a whole lot of them who love it.

Chair IT DOES. The Republican Party is indistinguishable from the Taliban

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/republican-platform-labels-pornography-public-health-crisis

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/11/politics/gop-platform-republican-convention-internet-pornography/

Read it for yourself 

https://www.gop.com/the-2016-republican-party-platform/

I posted the whole platform, you can see it for yourself.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Jul 31, 2016

Chair IT DOES. The Republican Party is indistinguishable from the Taliban

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/republican-platform-labels-pornography-public-health-crisis

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/11/politics/gop-platform-republican-convention-internet-pornography/

Read it for yourself 

https://www.gop.com/the-2016-republican-party-platform/

I posted the whole platform, you can see it for yourself.

They are talking about child porn and human trafficking, did you even read it?

Why are you so worried about porn anyways? Really? go get the smart guy.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 31, 2016

They are talking about child porn and human trafficking, did you even read it?

Why are you so worried about porn anyways? Really? go get the smart guy.

the whole point of America becoming independent was because of "tyranny" (not actually but irrelevant to what i have to say).  You really see nothing wrong with the government snooping in and arresting you for watching two adults have consensual sex? A call to ban just child porn has been in the platform for decades (as it should and must be) but in 2016  the Christian Taliban finally gets enough power to advocate for banning ALL porn in the platform.  i care about privacy rights and constitutional protections and that means defending the right to do something that i wouldn't do (watch porn). As MLK said, Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Jul 31, 2016

I'll tell you my reason for Trump.

To vote for Hilary would be voting for the same as usual politician. We need real change, right now. Will Trump be better than Hilary? Well, that is the great unknown. What I do know is that Hilary is the same as every politician that ran, Repub and Dem during the primaries. I'm glad Cruz, and the rest of the Repubs lost to Trump. Again, we need someone different, now. That is why I did not vote for Cruz, or anyone else in our primary. I voted for Trump. My wife was in disbelief when I told her (she voted for Cruz), but I told her the same thing I saying now. Yeah, Trump has his warts. He's not polished like a career politician. I like that.

You want the same old, same old? Hilary is your choice.

You want someone who can and just might make a difference? Trump.

My question is can Trump work Congress because it's nothing like working with a board of directors and with foreign leaders. I assumed after Trump won the nomination his insult filled speeches would stop or at least use only twitter, but IMO, they are getting worse. Another thing I find problematic is the support (or lack of) by the top Republicans; there is a huge difference between saying they will support the candidate and wearing a "I like Trump" button.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 1, 2016

My question is can Trump work Congress because it's nothing like working with a board of directors and with foreign leaders. I assumed after Trump won the nomination his insult filled speeches would stop or at least use only twitter, but IMO, they are getting worse. Another thing I find problematic is the support (or lack of) by the top Republicans; there is a huge difference between saying they will support the candidate and wearing a "I like Trump" button.

The members of Congress have over the past 20 years gone from largely being a body of trustees (Vote based on the merits) and delegates (voting the wy their constituents want)  to being a body of almost entirely partisan (voting the way the party wants). If Trump wins and he gets a Republican Congress, he can get virtually anything he wants. if he gets a Democratic Congress, then literally next to nothing will get done.The same would happen in reverse with Hillary. 

The Republican base is united while the leadership is divided, The Democratic leadership is united while the base is divided. I don't know which is worse, this election will tell.

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 1, 2016

The members of Congress have over the past 20 years gone from largely being a body of trustees (Vote based on the merits) and delegates (voting the wy their constituents want)  to being a body of almost entirely partisan (voting the way the party wants). If Trump wins and he gets a Republican Congress, he can get virtually anything he wants. if he gets a Democratic Congress, then literally next to nothing will get done.The same would happen in reverse with Hillary. 

The Republican base is united while the leadership is divided, The Democratic leadership is united while the base is divided. I don't know which is worse, this election will tell.

I don't think that Trump will be able to get anything he wants if the Republicans control the Congress and the Senate, for the simple reason that the Republicans are NOT necessarily in agreement with Trump on what policy should be.  If Trump gets elected, the Republicans will either gradually start to fall in line with some of Trump's ideas, or they won't !!!  Instead, they will force Trump to fall in line with their ideas, or Nothing will get accomplished or passed, as usual. 

Trump is in for a RUDE AWAKENING and a SERIOUS REALITY CHECK in dealing with a Republican controlled Congress/Senate, he just doesn't know it yet !!! Trump thinks "he's got this", but he doesn't "get it yet".  The BEHIND THE SCENES REALITY in the White House will be that if the Republicans don't TRUST and RESPECT Trump's ability to LEAD this NATION, they will NOT Cooperate with Trump the way that he Expects, and he won't be able to "Make a Deal" with anyone. 

There will be a Power Struggle and a Power Play between the Executive and Legislative branches of the U.S. Government [as usual] !!!  Because he is CEO of Trump International Empire, Trump thinks the President holds the Power.  But, he's WRONG about that, in the U.S. Government !!!

How many of Trump's policy ideas can he pass by EXECUTIVE ORDER, and Bypass the House and Senate ???  Most of Trump's Policy Ideas will have to pass through Both the House and SenateThis will NOT happen !!!  Trump will be the one forced to "give in" and compromise with what the Republicans and/or Democrats want instead. 

He also will NOT be able to continue to speak his mind unfiltered and be politically incorrect, b/c it will NOT be acceptable anymore in the White House, b/c his constituents, the public,  and the Media will continue to CRUCIFY him and TARNISH his image even more as President.  This happens to every President. Trump will be No Exception to this General Rule.

 

BTW, Who is going to FUND the Mexican Wall, if the Mexicans Don't ???

What are the Logistics of a Muslim Ban that can be accomplished , and how much money is it going to cost the Taxpayers ???

 

THINK about the REAL LOGISTICAL and MONETARY REALITY of Trump's Policy Ideas, and Consider if he can really accomplish what he thinks he can accomplish, working through the U.S. Congress and Senate.

We should NOT be Voting for or Supporting a New and Different Political Ideology anymore that Cannot be Realistically Accomplished,  b/c we tried that with Obama and it didn't work out so well. 

We should be Voting for and Supporting a Realistic REALITY CHECK that CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED , working through the Congress and Senate !!!

I don't necessarily think Hillary Clinton can do any better working through the Congress and Senate.  I don't know about Gary Johnson or Jill Stein

The point is, I don't think that we as Americans should have Unrealistically High Expectations of Donald Trump, only to be Disappointed like we have been with Obama, who has had a hard time working with the Congress and Senate.

It's called Realism in Politics.

bigbear29

You are correct destinycreation,  nothing is going to get done.  The repubs and the dems will be piss about something that trump said or did, and trump will be piss at the repubs and dems.  Bernie would have done a lot better.  trump has no idea about nothing, and how is trump going to bring jobs back to the USA????

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Here's the reality...Its between Trump or Hillary.  One or the other, that's it.  Forget the third parties.  People may not like Trump but at least he's sincere and honest.  Hillary on the other hand is a corrupt liar.

bigbear29

trump is an idiot!  I can not wait for the debates.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 31, 2016

Time to go get the smart guy, your losing.

Green laugh

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 1, 2016

trump is an idiot!  I can not wait for the debates.

LOL!   I can't wait for the debates too!  Trumps an idiot?  Sure, any idiot can make 10 billion dollars starting with 1 million.  Is that why the democrats want to schedule the debate during an NFL football game?  You figure that one out.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 1, 2016

LOL!   I can't wait for the debates too!  Trumps an idiot?  Sure, any idiot can make 10 billion dollars starting with 1 million.  Is that why the democrats want to schedule the debate during an NFL football game?  You figure that one out.

The debate dates were set and agreed to by Trump a year ago. How did his team overlook this?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Aug 1, 2016

The debate dates were set and agreed to by Trump a year ago. How did his team overlook this?

Trumps team had nothing to do with it.  A year ago he wasn't the nominee.

bigbear29

trump is going to bail on the debates.  He is an idiot in the political ring.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

bigbear you're too much.  Who will Hillbilly debate?  Herself?  They'll reschedule the debate dates.  Nice to have a Presidential candidate with conviction.  Tired of wishy-washy politicians.  Did you know Hillary (a proven liar) was thrown off the Watergate commission for stealing evidence?  That's the type of person you want as President?  Really?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 1, 2016

trump is going to bail on the debates.  He is an idiot in the political ring.

Vote for Jill Stein, Kingoeat says she'll help keep porno on the net. gotta love a woman who ......Embarassed

bigbear29

just put Bernie back in.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 1, 2016

just put Bernie back in.

You can still vote for him, he's just not the demograt nominee.

bigbear29

No, that would be giving it to trump.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

I'd trust Bernie more than Hillary at least the old guy was sincere in his convictions.  But the DNC put him down for corrupt Hillary even though he had more popular support.

bigbear29

Hillary leading trump after both conventions.  47% to 41%

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Which poll is that?  CNN or NYT?  LOL

bigbear29

Politico: Trump support tumbles after conventions

Fortune: 

Hillary Clinton Just Beat Trump In Post-Convention Polling

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 1, 2016

Politico: Trump support tumbles after conventions

Fortune: 

Hillary Clinton Just Beat Trump In Post-Convention Polling

LOL!  Politico and Fortune?  Anyway, what's Hillary's position on job creation?  That's why you're voting for her?  Right?  Or am I wrong.

bigbear29

How is trump going to create jobs??????  I'm voting for Hillary because I can't stand trump.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

He already has, tens of thousands.

bigbear29

So, trump is going to build more trump buildings if he gets into office?  Big corporations are pulling away from trump.  Why did trump lie about the NFL???  He received a letter from the NFL, a lie.

 

Warren buffett is about to introduce Hillary at her rally,  YES!  Warren Buffett!

bigbear29

From The Fix:  The list of big-name Republicans in Hillary Clinton’s corner just got even longer!  trump screwed up this time.

 

A few weeks ago, we assembled a list of some other prominent GOP voices who said they planned to back Hillary Clinton in the general election. This list will be updated as events warrant.

Richard Armitage, Henry Paulson, Brent Scowcroft. Three big-name former George W. Bush administration officials in the past few weeks have announced that they are supporting Hillary Clinton in 2016 — all because Donald Trump is simply a bridge too far for them.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 31, 2016

I know what happened, but never could understand why some of the members calling him their "close friend" don't have a clue. The guy created an excellent Archie Bunker type persona and would certainly enjoy this election cycle.

Then tell us what happened. You do not know anything about him.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 1, 2016

From The Fix:  The list of big-name Republicans in Hillary Clinton’s corner just got even longer!  trump screwed up this time.

 

A few weeks ago, we assembled a list of some other prominent GOP voices who said they planned to back Hillary Clinton in the general election. This list will be updated as events warrant.

Richard Armitage, Henry Paulson, Brent Scowcroft. Three big-name former George W. Bush administration officials in the past few weeks have announced that they are supporting Hillary Clinton in 2016 — all because Donald Trump is simply a bridge too far for them.

Oh come on now bigbear.  Those are (establishment) republicans.  They take the money from the lobbyists, you know, the people who hate Trump.  Trump is for us (working middle-class)  he doesn't need to run for President, he's doing this for America.  The establishment, both republicans and democrats, are for big money in DC.  And as for Warren Buffett, why do you think obama rejected the Keystone pipeline?  Its because Buffett is making millions moving oil with his railroad and the pipeline would end that.  Its all about money, don't you realize that???  I won't convince you and you won't convince me, lets leave it at that.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 31, 2016

You have to decide what you think is best for the collective country.

I listen to what they both have to say, not what someone else says they say.

I know we need jobs, not refugees, I know we need to secure our borders, I also know we need to make coming here easier for those with real skills and desires. Not drug dealers and gun runners.

I know that if you cripple the middle class with excessive tax, they stop spending, thus business suffers and more people lose jobs and prices go up.

I know we have tons of product coming into the country while these countries do not buy our products.

I don't claim to have all the answers, but as far as I see , Trump is a business man who is fed up with the crap our Government and that means all political parties, all getting away with.

They are forgetting they work for us, I don't want a Government that wants me to work for them.

I know we have a current regime trying to chip away at our rights, one that controls much of the media.

One that started class wars, race wars and gender wars. They are following the aslinsky, and Cloward and Piven playbooks. All ya got to do is read them.

One question I still ponder, why did they make sure so many people flooded our border, put these sick people on buses and ship them all over the country. What kind of person does this to their own country?

I Agree! with most of what you said and I'll address what I don't.

"You have to decide what you think is best for the collective country. "

I don't think it's possible for any of us to know what is best for the collective country. Each state has one or more (California has 53) Congressional districts and the idea is to elect a Representative that will vote what is best for that district. There are two US Senators from each state and again they should at least try to vote in the best interest of their state. The President has no vote and is not even elected by popular vote (Gore v Bush). 

"I know we have tons of product coming into the country while these countries do not buy our products. "

"Buy American" was everywhere in the early 1980s, but eventually lost out to "shop at Walmart". The answer seems simple, but convincing people to buy American again isn't.

""They are following the aslinsky, and Cloward and Piven playbooks. "

Wasn't that the strategy used by the Nixon administration?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 1, 2016

I Agree! with most of what you said and I'll address what I don't.

"You have to decide what you think is best for the collective country. "

I don't think it's possible for any of us to know what is best for the collective country. Each state has one or more (California has 53) Congressional districts and the idea is to elect a Representative that will vote what is best for that district. There are two US Senators from each state and again they should at least try to vote in the best interest of their state. The President has no vote and is not even elected by popular vote (Gore v Bush). 

"I know we have tons of product coming into the country while these countries do not buy our products. "

"Buy American" was everywhere in the early 1980s, but eventually lost out to "shop at Walmart". The answer seems simple, but convincing people to buy American again isn't.

""They are following the aslinsky, and Cloward and Piven playbooks. "

Wasn't that the strategy used by the Nixon administration?

You want to explain that Nixon thing?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 1, 2016

The members of Congress have over the past 20 years gone from largely being a body of trustees (Vote based on the merits) and delegates (voting the wy their constituents want)  to being a body of almost entirely partisan (voting the way the party wants). If Trump wins and he gets a Republican Congress, he can get virtually anything he wants. if he gets a Democratic Congress, then literally next to nothing will get done.The same would happen in reverse with Hillary. 

The Republican base is united while the leadership is divided, The Democratic leadership is united while the base is divided. I don't know which is worse, this election will tell.

"The Republican base is united while the leadership is divided"

Do you think the evangelicals are even 80% behind Trump?

bigbear29

No, I don't think the evangelicals are 80% behind trump.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

How would you know?

bigbear29

I believe it was because the keystone was not going to give a lot of americans long term jobs.  There are other reasons also.  Like, america was going to get a bad deal.  Also, a lot of the oil was not for the USA.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 1, 2016

I believe it was because the keystone was not going to give a lot of americans long term jobs.  There are other reasons also.  Like, america was going to get a bad deal.  Also, a lot of the oil was not for the USA.

You kidding me?  That project would have meant thousands of short term (high paying) construction jobs and hundreds of permanent jobs.  You have mortgage payments?  Or you on subsidized housing?  If you have huge bills to pay, any freaking job is better than none!  Jesus Christ man!

Yea, and some of that oil is going to other countries.  So what?  Its going there anyway.  Through our pipeline or not.  I'd call that a good deal.

bigbear29

SHORT TERM JOBS for americans!  You are trying to justify it by saying it is better than nothing.  SHORT TERM!

Not a good deal for americans.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 1, 2016

SHORT TERM JOBS for americans!  You are trying to justify it by saying it is better than nothing.  SHORT TERM!

Not a good deal for americans.

Whats the construction schedule?  A year?  Two?  Whats your alternative?  McDonnalds or Walmart?  What do you do for a living anyway?  You don't seem to care about people who work for a living.

bigbear29

Deals like that should be long term for AMERICANS!  Not long term for Canadians on AMERICAN SOIL.  Buying homes, raising a family = LONG TERM support.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 1, 2016

Whats the construction schedule?  A year?  Two?  Whats your alternative?  McDonnalds or Walmart?  What do you do for a living anyway?  You don't seem to care about people who work for a living.

LIGB

You are wasting your time with him. He probably doesn't even have a job.

bigbear29

Design engineer!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 1, 2016

How would you know?

The only way to get an idea of what percentage votes will be from the exit polls, but if Trump continues to insult five star families, part of the base will be voting for Hillary.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 1, 2016

Design engineer!

Then act like one.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 1, 2016

just put Bernie back in.

Bernie is an independent that ran as a Democrat. Only time will tell if his agenda continues.

bigbear29

How does a design engineer act?  Why are you getting mad?  It's just opinions.

bigbear29

That is why I can not see myself voting for trump.  Trump should have changed buy now, but he is not going to change.  He needs acting classes to start to act presidential.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 1, 2016

Trumps team had nothing to do with it.  A year ago he wasn't the nominee.

He had no say, but he was informed of the dates last September and had no problem with them until now.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 1, 2016

bigbear you're too much.  Who will Hillbilly debate?  Herself?  They'll reschedule the debate dates.  Nice to have a Presidential candidate with conviction.  Tired of wishy-washy politicians.  Did you know Hillary (a proven liar) was thrown off the Watergate commission for stealing evidence?  That's the type of person you want as President?  Really?

There were no presidential debates in 1964,1968 or 1972 so it's certainly possible they cancel them all, i don't think either candidate wants to debate right now. 

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 1, 2016

Vote for Jill Stein, Kingoeat says she'll help keep porno on the net. gotta love a woman who ......Embarassed

I've never said that you liar, Jill has made no mention of porn nor am i basing my vote on that at all. But Jill's campaign IS focused on college tuition reform and tyhat is obviously something i care a great deal about.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 1, 2016

Hillary leading trump after both conventions.  47% to 41%

The Democrats are supposed to have a bigger bounce out of their convention, if anything +6 is pretty bad.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 1, 2016

"The Republican base is united while the leadership is divided"

Do you think the evangelicals are even 80% behind Trump?

Yes. Mormons are a lot less behind Trump than they should be but they'll come around.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/20/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll.html?_r=0

bigbear29

It's going to get bigger.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 1, 2016

LOL!   I can't wait for the debates too!  Trumps an idiot?  Sure, any idiot can make 10 billion dollars starting with 1 million.  Is that why the democrats want to schedule the debate during an NFL football game?  You figure that one out.

Is that an insult or favor to NFL fans?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 2, 2016

Is that an insult or favor to NFL fans?

Depends who's playing.  I heard the first debate is scheduled during a Packers game.  LOL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Aug 1, 2016

LIGB

You are wasting your time with him. He probably doesn't even have a job.

Yea, you're probably right.  Keystone would be a massive construction project and would get more oil on the market which would help lower the price of gas.  Some people just can't see the forest for the trees.  Anyway, if Trump is elected he will approve the deal.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 2, 2016

Yea, you're probably right.  Keystone would be a massive construction project and would get more oil on the market which would help lower the price of gas.  Some people just can't see the forest for the trees.  Anyway, if Trump is elected he will approve the deal.

The industry’s US jobs claims are linked to a $7 billion KXL project budget. However, the budget for KXL that will have a bearing on US jobs figures is dramatically lower—only around $3 to $4 billion. A lower project budget means fewer jobs. » The project will create no more than 2,500-4,650 temporary direct construction jobs for two years, according to TransCanada’s own data supplied to the State Department. » The company’s claim that KXL will create 20,000 direct construction and manufacturing jobs in the U.S is not substantiated. » There is strong evidence to suggest that a large portion of the primary material input for KXL—steel pipe—will not even be produced in the United States. A substantial amount of pipe has already been manufactured in advance of pipeline permit issuance. » The industry’s claim that KXL will create 119,000 total jobs (direct, indirect, and induced) is based on a flawed and poorly documented study commissioned by TransCanada (The Perryman Group study). Perryman wrongly includes over $1 billion in spending and over 10,000 person-years of employment for a section of the Keystone project in Kansas and Oklahoma that is not part of KXL and has already been built. » KXL will not be a major source of US jobs, nor will it play any substantial role at all in putting Americans back to work. Even if the Perryman figures were accurate, and all of the workers for the next phase of the project were hired immediately, the US seasonally adjusted unemployment rate would remain at 9.1%—exactly where it is now. » KXL will divert Tar Sands oil now supplying Midwest refineries, so it can be sold at higher prices to the Gulf Coast and export markets. As a result, consumers in the Midwest could be paying 10 to 20 cents more per gallon for gasoline and diesel fuel. These additional costs (estimated to total $2–4 billion) will suppress other spending and will therefore cost jobs.

http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/sites/ilr.cornell.edu/files/GLI_keystoneXL_Reportpdf.pdf

An independent review.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

An independent and unbiased review from Cornell University?  LOL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 2, 2016

Yes. Mormons are a lot less behind Trump than they should be but they'll come around.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/20/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll.html?_r=0

I'd be shocked if Trump lost Utah, but the winning percentage will be a lot less than the last ten Republicans. IMO, it's more like voting for neither than voting for the other candidate.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 2, 2016

An independent and unbiased review from Cornell University?  LOL

I'm amazed they didn't throw man-made climate change somewhere into that review of Keystone.

bigbear29

So where is your info about keystone, liveingreenbay?????  Sense you disagree with me and Kingofearth!

bigbear29

That might happen that Utah turns blue.  CNN states that it's even in Utah between trump and hillary.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Doesn't matter what I post.  It will just go in one furry bear ear and out the other.

bigbear29

You are just a little know it all!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 2, 2016

You are just a little know it all!

LOL!

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 2, 2016

That might happen that Utah turns blue.  CNN states that it's even in Utah between trump and hillary.

https://youtu.be/qEnPViFy00E?t=72 

The Red fortress will not be broken this election nor does Hillary need to. All she needs to do is defend the Blue wall and pick up one or two swing states which is enough of a challenge given how poorly she did against Bernie in a bunch of key light blue states like NH and WI.

bigbear29

Yes, I saw one similar on cnn.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trumps in Green Bay tomorrow.  I'm going to see THE MAN tomorrow.  Weeeeeeeeeeeee

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 2, 2016

An independent and unbiased review from Cornell University?  LOL

I noticed that and got a good laugh! LOL

Long Odds

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 1, 2016

From The Fix:  The list of big-name Republicans in Hillary Clinton’s corner just got even longer!  trump screwed up this time.

 

A few weeks ago, we assembled a list of some other prominent GOP voices who said they planned to back Hillary Clinton in the general election. This list will be updated as events warrant.

Richard Armitage, Henry Paulson, Brent Scowcroft. Three big-name former George W. Bush administration officials in the past few weeks have announced that they are supporting Hillary Clinton in 2016 — all because Donald Trump is simply a bridge too far for them.

This is what it looks like when you challenge power and status quo. Trump is being assailed from every major power structure. Do you not have any level of curiosity as to why this is? You can go along in your make believe world that he is an idiot and that is why this is occurring or you may more rightly conclude that an outsider is a threat to the corrupt system. I find anyone voicing support for Hillary laughable- any honest look at her long-term and near-term history will reveal a list of ineptitude and corruption that is mind blowing in its scope. The Republican defectors that you tout as proof that Trump is so unintelligent that even the Republicans hate him is again ignoring that he is also a threat to that power structure. These a-holes thought they were going to jam Jeb down the throats of the voters- this was laughable from the onset but they went and pissed 100 million dollars away in negative adds to secure six delegates. At least the Republican primary voters were wise enough to reject another Bush-Clinton election; the democrats on the other hand went with Hillary- what a joke.

Long Odds

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 1, 2016

The only way to get an idea of what percentage votes will be from the exit polls, but if Trump continues to insult five star families, part of the base will be voting for Hillary.

Insult five star families? Khizr Khan, like all of us, is many things. One of his roles was father to Captain Humayun Khan. Another of his roles is a lawyer that most recently focused his practice on securing EB5 visas for foreign born Muslims seeking to immigrate to the US on what has been characterized as a system that is ripe for abuse and corruption. A previous employment stint was with a law firm that has long prepared the tax returns and provided other legal services to- wait for it- Bill and Hillary Clinton. He, and his colleagues, have numerous and long-term ties to the Clintons. By agreeing to speak at the DNC and unleash a withering attack on Donald Trump he decided to become a major participant in the current election. These are but a few of this man's roles in life. So, as Donald Trump clearly stated, we all honor the sacrifice made by his son, and the pain experienced by the family, it is these other roles of Mr. Khan that can rightfully be challenged.  This is not all that nuanced but it is so much easier to fall in line with the Clinton campaign and media narrative. I wonder if you are one of the willfully ignorant lemmings so important to the democrat party's successes or are you just truly clueless as to what is going on all around you.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Long Odds on Aug 5, 2016

Insult five star families? Khizr Khan, like all of us, is many things. One of his roles was father to Captain Humayun Khan. Another of his roles is a lawyer that most recently focused his practice on securing EB5 visas for foreign born Muslims seeking to immigrate to the US on what has been characterized as a system that is ripe for abuse and corruption. A previous employment stint was with a law firm that has long prepared the tax returns and provided other legal services to- wait for it- Bill and Hillary Clinton. He, and his colleagues, have numerous and long-term ties to the Clintons. By agreeing to speak at the DNC and unleash a withering attack on Donald Trump he decided to become a major participant in the current election. These are but a few of this man's roles in life. So, as Donald Trump clearly stated, we all honor the sacrifice made by his son, and the pain experienced by the family, it is these other roles of Mr. Khan that can rightfully be challenged.  This is not all that nuanced but it is so much easier to fall in line with the Clinton campaign and media narrative. I wonder if you are one of the willfully ignorant lemmings so important to the democrat party's successes or are you just truly clueless as to what is going on all around you.

Well said long odds.

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Enjoyed your posts "long odds". Those who support Obama have absolutely no clue just how damaging "fundamentally changing America" has altered the America we all have known and loved.

bigbear29

Bottomline is that the way things are going now, trump can not win the white house!  All of the poles for trump are dropping.  That is the bottomline!  In most cases, Hillary has a double digit lead.

 

Another lie from trump, "he saw the video of the money being unloaded".  Why would he say that?  Now today, he stated that he did not see that.  Another lie!

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Aug 5, 2016

Enjoyed your posts "long odds". Those who support Obama have absolutely no clue just how damaging "fundamentally changing America" has altered the America we all have known and loved.

Obama's "health care solution" is a far-right conservative fairy tale. We need to repeal and replace it with real health care for all. His actions on gun control are insane as all he did was all crazy people to carry arsenals onto Amtrak trains. Obama spoke like a progressive but he was a conservative in progressive clothing.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 4, 2016

Trumps in Green Bay tomorrow.  I'm going to see THE MAN tomorrow.  Weeeeeeeeeeeee

Good for you GreenBay!! I'd like to see him too.

Long Odds

So, you're a real student of history, huh? Certainly there's never been an election result that differed from what polls were showing, even polls that were done much closer to an election than where we are at present. But bigbear has pronounced it so let it be so.

bigbear29

I think this one is different from past history.  Trump has pushed himself away from different groups: black votes, hispanic votes, Muslim votes, a lot of women votes, some of the republican votes, big business votes, wall street votes and now he endorses Ryan and McCain because he needs the votes.  This is different from past history.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 6, 2016

I think this one is different from past history.  Trump has pushed himself away from different groups: black votes, hispanic votes, Muslim votes, a lot of women votes, some of the republican votes, big business votes, wall street votes and now he endorses Ryan and McCain because he needs the votes.  This is different from past history.

He pushed himself away from different groups?

  1.  Blacks...Because he wants law and order?
  2.  Hispanics...Because he wants to secure the southern border?
  3.  Muslims...Because he doesn't want potential terrorists coming into this country from terror hot spots?
  4.  Women...LOL.
  5.  Big business...LOL.
  6.  Wall street?  Can you say lobbyists?

Don't look now but the majority of Americans (including the "minorities" you indicate) support what he stands for.  Channel surfed the nightly news last week, it was a liberal non-stop bash attack on Trump every night.  Those polls you cited in an earlier post are skewed.  Look at his rallies, thousands and thousands of people.  Look at Hillary's rallies...No excitement there.

bigbear29

WOW!  I can not believe what you posted!  I see why you are voting for trump.  1 - 6 shows that you are an IDIOT!

 

1 - 6 is going to get their votes?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

LOL bigbear...Black people don't want safety in their neighborhoods?  Muslims like to be blown to bits by radical jihadists?  Not everyone is a government handout deadbeat like you.  Wait and see.

bigbear29

You are one of the reasons that trump is not going to win.

Total ignorance!

 

This is not the primaries, trump has to add votes to win.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 6, 2016

He pushed himself away from different groups?

  1.  Blacks...Because he wants law and order?
  2.  Hispanics...Because he wants to secure the southern border?
  3.  Muslims...Because he doesn't want potential terrorists coming into this country from terror hot spots?
  4.  Women...LOL.
  5.  Big business...LOL.
  6.  Wall street?  Can you say lobbyists?

Don't look now but the majority of Americans (including the "minorities" you indicate) support what he stands for.  Channel surfed the nightly news last week, it was a liberal non-stop bash attack on Trump every night.  Those polls you cited in an earlier post are skewed.  Look at his rallies, thousands and thousands of people.  Look at Hillary's rallies...No excitement there.

She wants to raise taxes on the middle class, check out coin tosses blog, word came right out of her mouth, then check out my blog. Remember to Thank Hillary.

An engineer makes good money bear, why would you want to give it away?

Do you need to eat, shelter, clothes?

bigbear29

Yes, I heard that speech and I think it was in error.  I'm sure it was a lot of middle class people in the audience.  It was an error, Hillary's poles would be down if that was true.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 6, 2016

Yes, I heard that speech and I think it was in error.  I'm sure it was a lot of middle class people in the audience.  It was an error, Hillary's poles would be down if that was true.

Freudian slip.

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 5, 2016

Obama's "health care solution" is a far-right conservative fairy tale. We need to repeal and replace it with real health care for all. His actions on gun control are insane as all he did was all crazy people to carry arsenals onto Amtrak trains. Obama spoke like a progressive but he was a conservative in progressive clothing.

I agree with what you mentioned but their was a little discrepancy. Obamacare is not a far-right conservative fairy tale and he is the furthest thing from being a conservative.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

I live close in to DC in a very over the top liberal suburb. This morning I was getting my hair cut, and both the owner and one of her employees (Asian and Hispanic) were openly saying how scared they were of Hillary and about the 2 DNC murders. Look it up. They remarked how people have to open their eyes. I was so pleasantly surprised. You have no idea how unusual this is for this area. Wait till more emails are released in October. The lead attorney in the  anti Clinton fraud case was found dead yesterday.

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destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 6, 2016

I live close in to DC in a very over the top liberal suburb. This morning I was getting my hair cut, and both the owner and one of her employees (Asian and Hispanic) were openly saying how scared they were of Hillary and about the 2 DNC murders. Look it up. They remarked how people have to open their eyes. I was so pleasantly surprised. You have no idea how unusual this is for this area. Wait till more emails are released in October. The lead attorney in the  anti Clinton fraud case was found dead yesterday.

"The lead attorney in the  anti Clinton fraud case was found dead yesterday."

Who is the lead attorney in the anti-Clinton fraud case ??  How did he die ???

Do the Clintons have a HIT TEAM in place ???  If so, how have they gotten away with this for years ???

 

Emily posted "A Short List of Clinton Associates Now Dead" in her blog. 

 

Has the Clinton Hit Team been substantiated and investigated by the FBI and/or Secret Service, or whomever ???

What is actually going on behind the scenes, that all of these very scary death "coincidences" linked to the Clintons are still happening ???

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

A few weeks ago just before Bernie Sanders announced his support for Hillary, a young DNC staffer named Seth Rich was murdered at 4AM in DC and robbery was not a motive. He was due to testify against Clinton. A lot of people associated with the Clintons have mysteriously came up dead.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 6, 2016

LOL bigbear...Black people don't want safety in their neighborhoods?  Muslims like to be blown to bits by radical jihadists?  Not everyone is a government handout deadbeat like you.  Wait and see.

And that's Trump biggest challenge. His base is the 47% who don't pay taxes (the elderly and southern republicans). There are some taxpayers who are supporting trump, but will it be enough?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Aug 6, 2016

I agree with what you mentioned but their was a little discrepancy. Obamacare is not a far-right conservative fairy tale and he is the furthest thing from being a conservative.

Obamacare was created by the far-right Heritage Foundation as the far-right alternative to the center-left healthcare plan that the Clinton's proposed. Then it was abound ones until Governor Romney of Massachusetts dug it up and fixed it to make it work. Obama being a center-right conservative took Romneycare as his own solution. Obama is a moderate conservative who had brought little change, especially little positive change, to this country.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 6, 2016

And that's Trump biggest challenge. His base is the 47% who don't pay taxes (the elderly and southern republicans). There are some taxpayers who are supporting trump, but will it be enough?

Not sure we're you get your news but saying Trump's base is the 47% who don't pay their taxes is borderline insane. I highly suggest you look elsewhere if you want relevant and truthful news.

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Aug 6, 2016

"The lead attorney in the  anti Clinton fraud case was found dead yesterday."

Who is the lead attorney in the anti-Clinton fraud case ??  How did he die ???

Do the Clintons have a HIT TEAM in place ???  If so, how have they gotten away with this for years ???

 

Emily posted "A Short List of Clinton Associates Now Dead" in her blog. 

 

Has the Clinton Hit Team been substantiated and investigated by the FBI and/or Secret Service, or whomever ???

What is actually going on behind the scenes, that all of these very scary death "coincidences" linked to the Clintons are still happening ???

googled this " dead lead attorney" business:

"On July 3, 2016, Shawn Lucas and filmmaker Ricardo Villaba served the DNC Services Corp. and Chairperson Debbie Wasserman Schultz at DNC’s headquarters in Washington, D.C., in the fraud class action suit against the Democrat Party on behalf of Bernie Sanders supporters (this was before Wikileaks released documents proving the DNC was working against the Sanders campaign during the 2016 primary)."

"An unconfirmed report holds that Lucas was found lying on the bathroom floor by his girlfriend when she returned home on the evening of 2 August 2016. Paramedics responding to her 911 call found no signs of life."

"There are no other details about Lucas’ cause of death and reporters were unable to confirm anything more than the fact he had passed away."

"Some versions of the rumor tried to associated Lucas with a sinister plot linked to Hillary Clinton by asserting that he was the "lead attorney" in the DNC lawsuit, but he was just one of the process servers who delivered papers to a DNC office. (Lucas was named in a motion  filed on 22 July 2016 by the DNC, seeking to dismiss the suit on partial grounds of improper service.)"

This information was taken from news sites on the Internet. [Snopes and Zero Hedge]

If everyone who crosses Clinton ends up DEAD, Hillary Clinton might be scarier than Donald Trump

All of the political candidates have some new ideas and a political agenda that they're trying to accomplish.

Personally, I'm choosing to vote for CHARACTER this Election Year 2016, and choose the lesser of all of the Evils.  I will be casting my vote for JILL STEIN for President, whether she has a chance of winning, or not.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Aug 6, 2016

"The lead attorney in the  anti Clinton fraud case was found dead yesterday."

Who is the lead attorney in the anti-Clinton fraud case ??  How did he die ???

Do the Clintons have a HIT TEAM in place ???  If so, how have they gotten away with this for years ???

 

Emily posted "A Short List of Clinton Associates Now Dead" in her blog. 

 

Has the Clinton Hit Team been substantiated and investigated by the FBI and/or Secret Service, or whomever ???

What is actually going on behind the scenes, that all of these very scary death "coincidences" linked to the Clintons are still happening ???

I think we have seen how organizations protect the Clintons. Look at the DNC.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Aug 6, 2016

googled this " dead lead attorney" business:

"On July 3, 2016, Shawn Lucas and filmmaker Ricardo Villaba served the DNC Services Corp. and Chairperson Debbie Wasserman Schultz at DNC’s headquarters in Washington, D.C., in the fraud class action suit against the Democrat Party on behalf of Bernie Sanders supporters (this was before Wikileaks released documents proving the DNC was working against the Sanders campaign during the 2016 primary)."

"An unconfirmed report holds that Lucas was found lying on the bathroom floor by his girlfriend when she returned home on the evening of 2 August 2016. Paramedics responding to her 911 call found no signs of life."

"There are no other details about Lucas’ cause of death and reporters were unable to confirm anything more than the fact he had passed away."

"Some versions of the rumor tried to associated Lucas with a sinister plot linked to Hillary Clinton by asserting that he was the "lead attorney" in the DNC lawsuit, but he was just one of the process servers who delivered papers to a DNC office. (Lucas was named in a motion  filed on 22 July 2016 by the DNC, seeking to dismiss the suit on partial grounds of improper service.)"

This information was taken from news sites on the Internet. [Snopes and Zero Hedge]

If everyone who crosses Clinton ends up DEAD, Hillary Clinton might be scarier than Donald Trump

All of the political candidates have some new ideas and a political agenda that they're trying to accomplish.

Personally, I'm choosing to vote for CHARACTER this Election Year 2016, and choose the lesser of all of the Evils.  I will be casting my vote for JILL STEIN for President, whether she has a chance of winning, or not.

He was named in the motion seeking to dismiss the suit. Obviously he was not unimportant or irrelevant  to the matter.

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 6, 2016

He was named in the motion seeking to dismiss the suit. Obviously he was not unimportant or irrelevant  to the matter.

Anyone who is DEAD for no apparent or good reason, is a Relevant Human Being.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 6, 2016

Not sure we're you get your news but saying Trump's base is the 47% who don't pay their taxes is borderline insane. I highly suggest you look elsewhere if you want relevant and truthful news.

bigbear29

Trump polls miserably among Asian Americans

Donald Trump is wildly unpopular among Asian-American voters, who are flocking to the Democratic Party, according to a new survey.

Only 19 percent of Asian Americans hold a favorable view of the presumptive Republican nominee, according to a survey of more than 1,000 registered Asian Americans conducted by three Asian-American NGOs, while 61 percent view him unfavorably.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-asian-american-223502#ixzz4GZuPeVQ8
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Most Asian-Americans don't favour Donald Trump: Survey

The most recent Asian voter survey, released by three Asian-American non-profit organisations, shows that 61 per cent of registered Asian- American voters have an unfavourable opinion of Mr Trump and only 19 per cent look upon him favourably.

Candidate preferences aside, the Democrats also have a favourability rating of 64 per cent with Asian- Americans compared with 31 per cent for the Republicans.

And as the Asian-American demographic grows - it is projected that Asians will be the largest immigrant group in the country by 2065 - many argue that this is one community that should no longer be ignored.

emilyg's avataremilyg

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 6, 2016

I live close in to DC in a very over the top liberal suburb. This morning I was getting my hair cut, and both the owner and one of her employees (Asian and Hispanic) were openly saying how scared they were of Hillary and about the 2 DNC murders. Look it up. They remarked how people have to open their eyes. I was so pleasantly surprised. You have no idea how unusual this is for this area. Wait till more emails are released in October. The lead attorney in the  anti Clinton fraud case was found dead yesterday.

Check out my blog on 2 articles about Clinton.

bigbear29

Trump is going nowhere with Latino voters. Here’s the proof

David Damore and Matt Barreto at Latino Decisions went the extra step of looking at six swing states with large or emerging Latino electorates and whose electoral votes will be infinitely more important than total national vote. They can only be described as rough terrain for the Republican Party. Below are those states and the percentage of Latino vote needed for the GOP nominee to win the state, assuming black turnout is not as high in November as it was in 2008 or 2012 and the Latino share of the electorate “slightly increases.”

New Mexico (42 percent): Obama won this state in 2012. Exit polls show Latinos were 37 percent of the electorate. Romney got 29 percent of that vote. Obama got 65 percent.

Ohio (43 percent): Obama won this state in 2012. Exit polls show Latinos were 3 percent of the electorate. Romney got 42 percent of that vote. Obama got 54 percent.

Colorado (44 percent): Obama won this state in 2012. Exit polls show Latinos were 14 percent of the electorate. Romney got 23 percent of that vote. Obama got 75 percent.

Nevada (45 percent): Obama won this state in 2012. Exit polls show Latinos were 19 percent of the electorate. Romney got 24 percent of that vote. Obama got 71 percent.

Virginia (46 percent): Obama won this state in 2012. Exit polls show Latinos were 5 percent of the electorate. Romney got 33 percent of that vote. Obama got 64 percent.

Florida (47 percent): Obama won this state in 2012. Exit polls show Latinos were 17 percent of the electorate. Romney got 39 percent of that vote. Obama got 60 percent.

The Latino Decisions battleground survey from April shows that Trump’s unfavorable rating is an astronomical 87 percent among Latino registered voters. It’s 91 percent in Colorado, 87 percent in Nevada and 84 percent in Florida.

bigbear29

Only 1 Percent Of Black Voters Support Donald Trump

The GOP presidential nominee polls at a record low among a demographic key to winning the general election

 

WASHINGTON ? Rounding out one of the worst weeks in his presidential campaign, Donald Trump faces yet another sad reality. According to new NBC/Wall Street Journal polling released Thursday, only 1 percent of black voters nationally support the Republican nominee.

This is the lowest level of support ever recorded among the demographic, indicating that a sentiment  already present among black voters in swing states is widespread.  Trump also suffers among Hispanic voters, garnering just 26 percent of their vote, according to an Economist/YouGov poll released earlier this week.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 6, 2016

http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8

Facts are borderline insanity?

Facts? what a joke! Benzinga is a radical progressive blog site and business insider gets the majority of their news articles from left wing bloggers such as Benzinga. With sources like these it's no wonder you are so ill informed.

FYI, articles written by bloggers aren't known for facts, rather they contain viewpoints that align with their ideology.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 6, 2016

http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8

Facts are borderline insanity?

Facts?  LOL!  That article was written by Benzinga, did you even read it?  Talk about disgusting language from a far left, democrat leaning source.  There are many reasons for taxes paid and taxes received from the feds.  As a famous politician once said...Its the economy stupid.  What party ran this economy for the last 7+ years?  Here is another fact, this economy has the slowest growth rate since 1949.  Trump policies can help stimulate the economy, Hillary will be more of that same liberal malaise.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Bigbear stop posting BS from pro-illegal immigration latino groups, Politico and NBC.  You're embarrassing yourself.

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 6, 2016

http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8

Facts are borderline insanity?

Your so called facts are based on a far-left blog site. Benzinga is a joke among their peers and present their viewpoints to unsuspecting, gullible individuals such as yourself.

bigbear29

And you are showing that you are an idiot!

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by emilyg on Aug 6, 2016

Check out my blog on 2 articles about Clinton.

Antichrist at any and all costs.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 5, 2016

Bottomline is that the way things are going now, trump can not win the white house!  All of the poles for trump are dropping.  That is the bottomline!  In most cases, Hillary has a double digit lead.

 

Another lie from trump, "he saw the video of the money being unloaded".  Why would he say that?  Now today, he stated that he did not see that.  Another lie!

Hey bigbear, stop calling me an idiot just because I have a different viewpoint than you.  BTW, which pole are you referring to?  The north or south pole?  LOL

bigbear29

Than grow up you little SOB!

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 6, 2016

Facts? what a joke! Benzinga is a radical progressive blog site and business insider gets the majority of their news articles from left wing bloggers such as Benzinga. With sources like these it's no wonder you are so ill informed.

FYI, articles written by bloggers aren't known for facts, rather they contain viewpoints that align with their ideology.

What are some good non-partisan sources for info on the election?

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Aug 6, 2016

What are some good non-partisan sources for info on the election?

I can't speak for Drenick but I would say that Fox news even though they tend to lean right is probably the fairest as they do have a few left leaning anchors. MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS are well known for being in the tank for Democrats. Over 90% of their employees are registered Democrats while a few worked for Hillary herself.

bigbear29

I think fox news is just like the rest of the news stations.  So I watch foxnews, cnn, and msnbc to try and get the big picture.  Certain shows on fox seem to really push right sometimes in a childess way, but my favorite would be morning joe on msnbc.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 6, 2016

Facts? what a joke! Benzinga is a radical progressive blog site and business insider gets the majority of their news articles from left wing bloggers such as Benzinga. With sources like these it's no wonder you are so ill informed.

FYI, articles written by bloggers aren't known for facts, rather they contain viewpoints that align with their ideology.

Try to find something false about it. You can't. I wouldn't post a source that isn't true. You're free to go try to find a source that shows Mississippi isn't a big welfare leech, but you know you can't.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 6, 2016

http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8

Facts are borderline insanity?

No, KingofDerp, facts aren't "borderline insanity" but someone would have to be crazy to believe the ones you've spewed forth.

You challenged:  Then do it, show us something this (that is?)  contradictory or factually incorrect.

I went through your posts and picked out your "greatest hits" to focus upon.  "They didn't have a good beat, Dick, and were hard to dance to!"  Sorry, showing my age.  I think they're in reverse order for the most part, most recent to earliest, although there are a few I combined under the same topic. 

Who cares? They're all a crock, anyway.

I want to preface my rebuttal with how I want to point out I have tried to avoid using the term "Liberal", especially as a pejorative and have instead opted for "Progressive".  Classical liberalism makes up a large part of my own personal political beliefs.

The next several come from the same vomitus in a single post.

Conservatives and Republicans oppose the minimum wage

No, they don't.  A Pew research poll from a few years back said half of Republicans support a raise in min. wage.  I've since seen other more recent polls that show a majority of Republicans favor an increase,  but not to the levels the Democrats propose.

As has been explained to you in here, min. wage was always intended to be a starting wage for people entering the work force, not a perpetual one. I've read that, in McDonalds case, it wouldn't raise the price of a burger by much. That's probably true in some other areas, too, but I'd also bet it will reduce the numbers of those entry level employees hired. McD's is already working on automation and I bet other businesses will follow suit because labor costs are usually 70% of any business's overhead. Sure, raise it if you must, but it HAS to be gradual or the wage hike will have some adverse repercussions, a ripple effect which would turn into a tidal wave and wreak havoc with our economy. 

That's one of the most fundamental differences between Progressives and Conservatives; a Conservative says "Wait a minute, let's not be too hasty, let's think about it, discuss it before doing anything." Progressives are like spoiled children, wanting something not just NOW, but yesterday and they hold their breath and stomp their widdle feet until the adults (Conservatives) give in.

support homophobia

Sure, you have some religious types who were anti-gay marriage, dislike the gay "lifestyle", but at least they're steadfast in their opposition while many Democrats only switched when they saw which way the political wind was blowing. Me? I'm a conservative small L libertarian and I had no objection other than semantics. Marriage has always been defined as a religious union between a man and a woman. (and "gay" meant happy) On the civil rights side, I saw nothing wrong with civil unions, but my libertarian bent makes me chafe that govt. has ANYTHING to do with marriage to begin with.

support women dying from illegal abortions etc etc, it's pretty clear which side of the spectrum has concern for human life

Ah, the "coat hanger" argument. Doesn't fly, Mommie Dearest. I want to say "most", but instead will say "many" conservatives would allow for abortion in cases of rape, incest and life of the mother. "Back alley abortions" account for only 200 at most each year, as opposed to the nearly million legal abortions. It's estimated that there have been well over 50 million abortions since Roe v. Wade. That's a staggering number, but what I find sickening is how abortion is celebrated as a woman's right to choose, yet nothing is mentioned about the unborn's right to life, their civil rights being terminated along with the pregnancy. Of course, since the baby is "only a lump of tissue", then they have no rights, right?

All that said, it's the law but there's also nothing illegal about people being against the practice. (unless the only opinion that counts is yours and those like-minded, huh?) There is a need for regulation, though, because it is a medical procedure, after all.  Even a transgender person is required to have counseling before surgery.
"Up to the point of viability!" is the cry of abortion supporters, a reluctant sop to those who would reasonably restrict abortion to before the last trimester.  Why stop there, why not do "post-birth" abortions? I mean...a baby can't live w/out care from the mother (and/or father) for several years after being born. Good grief, I know teenagers and grown men who couldn't survive on their own for more than a week w/out someone taking care of them.

No, let's extend that time to at least a year after birth. That way you Progressives can get rid of the mentally challenged, the crippled, the wrong sex, the ones that are unattractive...just name the defect, and terminate it and the "host" that carries it. A financial burden?  Throw it in the trash. Ruin your figure?  Abort the "lump".  Simply can't be bothered?  Throw the baby out with the bathwater!  We all know that's what you Progressives want, what your leftist heroes of the past did. THAT'S the "side of the spectrum" that has no concern for human life.

Not long ago I read an article that called for climate change deniers to be killed. That's the Progressive way, right? How many did Stalin and Mao, other leftists, murder only because they dared to speak out? Do the research on THAT and get back to me about "which spectrum" values human life more.

Elect a Leftist, or even a centrist like Sanders and you'd get very different results.

Sanders, a centrist? Bwwaaaaa!

The most extreme cases of political correctness are in the right, not the left

Did I spell "Bwwaaaa!" correctly above? That comes close to the most idiotic thing you've ever said, not to mention the biggest whopper.

Davy Crockett existed, the hat did not at the time. Also him and a few others were captured alive and executed.

Oops, your beloved Wiki says otherwise: Coonskin cap  I won't post the information, but I want you to read it with your own lyin' eyes.  Needless to say, the cap existed long before The Battle of the Alamo.

(I know a little bit about coons because my pop used to hunt them when I was just a little guy.  He must have started feeling guilty about it because later when I was a young man, he'd bring home abandoned raccoon kits and we'd raise them.  One used to love to ride on his shoulder while he drove around checking his leases.  Here's a short lesson in coon anatomy, just to lighten up this post a bit)

I see that you're choosing to believe the Billy Bob Thornton movie version instead of The Duke's. Fine by me, but it serves as proof you prefer to get your history from Hollywood movies instead of books.  Once again, from Wiki: Davy Crockett "All that is certain (my emphasis) about the fate of David Crockett is that he died fighting at the Alamo on the morning of March 6, 1836, at age 49."

Being a Texan and lover of history, I already knew that the Billy Bob movie version ending came from a Mexican officer's journal, a man named la Peña. Due to the fact that no other manuscript has ever been uncovered corroborating la Peña's account, it's not been accepted as anything close to being factual and most historical scholars think it a hoax. If you'll read the Wiki article, you'll see that Alamo survivors of the battle stated something altogether differently in regards to how Crockett died.

I bet you get your "facts" about climate change from An Inconvenient Truth, your "facts" about the Kennedy assassination from Oliver Stone's JFK and your "facts" about the Vietnam War from Apocalypse Now. Am I right or am I right?  Hooray for Hollywood, passing lies off as truth, glorifying the worst of our culture (and contributing to its decline), ridiculing any other opinions but their own...warping idiot's minds for a century!

Oh please, pretty please bring up Gasland and how hydraulic fracturing (fracking) is bad. I'll blow you out of the not-burning water with FACTS, Jack.   On second thought, never mind;  I'm sure you'll attempt to use "facts" that are anything but.  I've spent more than enough time on exposing you as it is. 

Anyway...you damyankees need to tend to your own history books, leave ours alone. Sure, we Texans like our historical heroic myths and sometimes our text books contain the wrong information, but sweep around your own door first.

Live off welfare like 90% of Southern Republicans

and this one:

70% of the 47% are elderly and Republicans in the conferacy.[sic] You old Southern Reps are the laziest and most ignorant leeches in the world.

I've done a LOT of reading about the meme that "Blue states support Red states". First of all, the 90% figure needs to be flushed down the toilet, just like many other of your "facts". The "Blue vs. Red" division needs to be stabbed in the heart, because it's not only more complicated than that, it's also a lie.

If you ever take the time to look at red/blue spots by voting demographics, you'll see that the U.S. is more "purple" than simply red or blue. Makes sense if you look at how the last several presidential elections went, but then again, if you'll look closer, you'll see that many states that voted for the Democrat presidential candidate have a majority of Republicans in their state houses as well as represented in Congress and vice versa in others. Others, not all.

So, saying a state is either red or blue depends upon how they voted in the last Presidential election is a case of mislabeling. Except for blue states such as NY and Mass., several others in the northeast and on the west coast, some so-called red states like Florida have flipped back and forth.

Then too, just like any other analysis of statistics, one must "drill down" and consider other numbers and variables. For instance, Texas is a "red state", right? Well, look at some of the largest population density regions, such as the Valley and Houston, etc. They're solidly "Blue" and other large Texas cities are "light Blue". Large urban centers vote Democrat, that's a fact. Consider New Orleans in Louisiana, Atlanta in Georgia, other huge cities in red states. They vote Democrat.  Again, that's a fact, look it up. 

A Pew study and poll showed Democrats were responsible for 60+% of the benefits taken.  I've seen other articles claim the figure is closer to 80% in some categories.   Consider the huge numbers of Democrats in those urban centers, it's obvious that it's not Southern Republicans taking the welfare, it's that they are supporting the Democrat voters - the "leeches" - in their states. 

I'm sure you'll try to come back with social security figures or how much each state gets in Federal dollars vs. what they pay back, etc., but that argument is often made by misleading statistics or over-simplifying them or not accounting that - for example - that many "red" states have more military bases (pork projects from past Democratic Representatives) and that "red" states like Florida and Arizona have a larger than average elderly population using their PAID FOR benefits like SSI and Medicare.   Add in Federal land in "red" states that have a big influx of federal dollars (many Western states)  and even that equation changes which would prove you even more wrong. 

The US has no gun control laws

You mean I can go buy a machine gun? Wow, I always thought I had to have an expensive Federal license, be investigated, pay a yearly fee, be subject to visits by the ATF to make sure I still have possession of the weapon and all that!

If that's the case, I want a Thompson (Tommy gun) , you 'n me can be just like Bonny and Clyde (I'll be Clyde, of course).  No, scratch that, I want a 50-caliber to go hunting with, we got some big jackrabbits here in Texas.  No, no, I want one of those Warthog 30mm Gatling guns to mount on top of my house so I can shoot the speeders as they whiz by.

Biggest lie you've told and that's saying' sumpthin'. Of COURSE we have gun control laws. Did you type that with a straight face or was it intended to be a lie, Mr. Goebbels?

Yeah, let's ban guns, bans worked so well during Prohibition and with our current drug laws. 

I hope you're the one who comes to take my few firearms away. Just be warned that I'll give you the ammunition first, very quickly...a little faster than the speed of sound, in fact. 

If you want to take away my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, then you're a traitor and need to have your citizenship terminated...with "extreme prejudice".

Bernie is a moderate centrist who flip flops between the center-left and center-right.

No, he's not a "moderate centrist". If he were, he'd be a middle-of-the-road Republican, a RINO or at best, a conservative Democrat (a rare bird, the numbers of which would rival those of the passenger pigeon.) He says he's a Democratic Socialist, just using a word like "Democratic"  trying to disguise his true affiliation - Communist.  He ran as an Independent to further disguise his true ideology.  He aligned himself with the Democrats only for relevancy...but that the Democrats allowed him to run on their ticket speaks volumes about THEIR true ideology.

(and let's get something else straight;  while "Progressive", "Socialist", "Communist" and "Marxist" DO all have different definitions, their desired end results are all exactly the same - a totalitarian regime.)

Granted, he struck a chord with the younger generation, but his supporters were mostly a thankfully small percentage of the newest voting generation, the narcissistic, self-absorbed whiners. Like you.

Taxes are absurdly low, we need real increases

No, they're not and no we don't. We need to cut spending. Anyone who has ever budgeted for a household or business could attest to that. It's only the leeches and "gimme" crowd that think that. Like you think.

The over 35 crowd have had everything handed to them on a silver platter

Yeah, those darn Boomers! I'm a Boomer, but I never had a silver platter or anything handed to me on one.  I DO know a few folks who fit that description, but that's true of any generation.

Add "Ageist" to your growing list of bigoted beliefs.

Seriously, sounds like your generation actually believed Harry Potter and that all the problems can be solved by a simple flick of the wand. Thank goodness it's not, because you pouting pusillanimous punks would be screaming "Avada Kedavra" at everyone with white hair or wrinkles. How 'bout instead of whining on message boards, you go actually DO something to change the world? Oh, I forget, that would require work and participation and actual interaction with others on a personal and REAL level, not moaning about it online or having to look up from your cell phones. Like you do.

There's a reason no one lives in no tax places like Wyoming and South Dakota.

From Wiki: Wyoming Population: 2015 (est) 586,107  I see, a half-million+ people is "no one". You think so few people live there because of no corporate tax or personal income tax and NOT because of the cold-as-hell winters? I'd say the fact that the U.S. govt. owns nearly half of Wyoming has something to do with it as well.

From Wiki: South Dakota Population 2015 (est) 858,469 Where exactly is the cut off that defines "no one"? According to you, it's not rural flight but because they're mostly Republican voting states and not nearly Socialist enough. Have I interpreted your insinuation correctly? Of course, both of those states are largely agricultural based without a lot of heavy industry, so they're not going to have a huge GDP OR population.

California has a surplus and a stable budget as a result of raising taxes on the rich.

Sorry, but this is from Breitbart, which I know you despise as a source, but they also post links to their information cited...just like Wikipedia, which you claim to be a reputable cite. (not saying it is or isn't, just that if you want us to accept Wiki, then you need to accept Breitbart or admit that you're the hypocrite most of the rest of us already realize.)

California Budget in Deficit as Silicon Valley Falters
From the site: "The bipartisan Legislative Analysts’ Office has announced that California’s 2015-16 personal income tax collection has fallen from a huge surplus to a $147 million deficit. The cause appears to be plummeting Silicon Valley capital gains and weakening tech employment."

Also, note the date of the article - Feb. 5th of this yr. YOUR assertion of "facts" was made on July 8th. So, what's your excuse? You had your head buried in the sand for five months, or didn't want to bring it up because it wouldn't fit your narrative? Personally, I think it's because you're a habitual liar. Using your reasoning on other matters, I'd have to say ALL Socialists are liars. To top that off, you went on with this:

Meanwhile states like Kansas and Louisiana which cut taxes on the rich dramatically are economic wasteland

Kansas "The Bureau of Economic Analysis estimates that the total GDP in 2008 was $122.7 billion, making it the United States's 32nd highest state by GDP." Hmmm. While it ranks in the bottom half of states in GDP, it's also a largely agricultural state and has also suffered from rural flight. It's also 34th in population, so being 32nd in GDP isn't all that bad with that considered.

The state is ranked #8 in both oil and gas production, but prices are down and that's certainly not helping the economics of that state. My own royalties have been horrible lately. Yep, a Texan who owns (part of) several gas wells...in Oklahoma, bless that brilliantly red state, so glad it's such a great neighbor! I wish OU wouldn't kick UT's butt so often in football, but I still love the state.

Louisiana 25th in population, 24th in GDP. Smack dab in the middle of all the states isn't exactly what I'd call an "economic wasteland".

Only a stupid person responds with ad hominum [sic] attacks rather then accept facts.

This one made me laugh...well "snicker", actually. You've done a fair amount of mud-slinging, against Republicans, Conservatives (and the two aren't mutually inclusive, you should know), Christians, southern states, etc. Pot, meet kettle.  You could call it "blow back" for years of abuse of Conservatives.  We now realize insults hurt you thin-skinned progressives.  You can dish it out, but you can't take it. 

Everyone pays for a service and that service provides it free of charge to everyone.

THIS one makes me shake my head and think "Did he really just say that?" If someone has to pay for a service, then how is it free? Honestly, do you really THINK before you type this stuff out? This is what I'd expect to find on a used wad of toilet paper, not coming from the brain of an "educated" "intellectual", self-admitted Socialist. Maybe what's on that TP is what you have for brains?

The minimum wage of a server is $2.15

Another "fact" that happens to be wrong: Tipped wage in the United States "The American federal government requires a wage of at least $2.13 per hour be paid to employees that receive at least $30 per month in tips. If wages and tips do not equal the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour during any pay period, the employer is required to increase cash wages to compensate. As of May 2012, the average hourly wage – including tips – for a restaurant employee in the United States that received tip income was $11.82."

Not off by much, only a couple of pennies, but that two cents represents the value of the "facts" you claim. I noticed you didn't bring up the compensation that's mandated by law.

Besides all that, it's always someone of YOUR generation who is a server or preparer who thinks it's fine to spit in someone's food, be it a poor tipper or someone of a different race or a cop or a soldier. Yep, you guys need to be rewarded for that, for sure....with a whack of a bat across the mouth, let you spit out a few teeth instead of phlegm on someone's burger.   Too violent?  OK, then...let's go around to any pool hall and empty the spittoons around all the domino tables, fill up a five gallon bucket and shove the spitter's head in it.  Do it a few times until they got the message that when you do something nasty as spitting in someone's food, then something nasty happens to the offender.

You don't want me to get started on what I'd do to taggers and graffitti "artists".

The Christian Taliban wants only the wealthy elite to go to college

What nonsense! "Christian Taliban" is an oxymoron. It's a pseudo hate phrase created by anti-Christian bigoted leftists and so-called "tolerant liberals". It's akin to saying "a carnivorous vegetarian" and is a sophomoric insult (Ironically, "sophomore" is thought to have derived from the Greek for "wise fool", another oxymoron, although in your case it's quite apt)

To state this clearer: There's no such thing. This. Doesn't. Exist.

(Disclaimer: Those aren't my words;  I saw them when I Googled the term, but liked them so much I decided to include them)

He's not the one who believes that a bearded sky fairy controls our lives and that fatal cancer in children is a sign that this sky fairy is good and we need to worship said monster.

While I certainly wouldn't argue against that some Christians are full of hate, IMHO they're really not Christians, not by deed or definition. Lumping them all together, however, is stereotyping and that in itself is a form of bigotry. While anecdotes and personal observations can't qualify as "facts", why is it the most hateful and unhinged people that I see posting in forums and message boards are atheists?

Honestly, why does a monument with the Ten Commandments on the courthouse lawn send you atheists into apoplectic fits?  Like it or not, they were a basis for American law and should be taken into historical significance if for no other reason.

Me? I'm an "optimistic agnostic", so I don't really have a dog in the fight except that some of my dearest friends are Christians and I won't stand for them to be slandered. They're all flawed humans, just like the rest of us (you included...especially you), but it is their QUEST for perfection, their attempt to walk in Jesus' footsteps that makes them Christians.  None I've ever known revel in others misfortunes and if they did, they wouldn't be Christians OR my friends.

While they might turn the other cheek if you insulted them, if I was there when you said it I'd snatch you up by your hair and try my best to break your nose. (and I'm fairly certain I could do it even though I bet I have four decades on you in age.) That wouldn't be warm rain falling on your face as you lay there stunned afterwards, either. Being pretty much of a heathen, I won't have to ask forgiveness from either you OR the "bearded sky fairy". I'll just need bail money, that's all. (that is, if you press charges, pretty much what wussies do after they get their butts kicked)

82% of the 47% are either old or are poor people in the red southern states that Trump won by massive margins, facts can't be disputed

There's not even any need to attempt to rebut this because, like most of your "facts", you pulled this out of your anal orifice. I not only disputed your "facts" up above, I destroyed them.

MSNBC is for center-right moderate conservatives like Obama or Hillary.

I'm pretty sure Socialists and sane people don't use the same dictionary and I'm not sure we even live on the same planet.  Good grief. Apparently according to you anyone who is a fraction of an inch to the right of Mao is "center-right".

The Obama economy is far better than either Bush economy or the Reagan economy this time in their terms

Uh, not exactly true- the charts I saw showed "Obama's economy" to be below Reagan's and only slightly better than Bush's at the same point in time.  Other than public confidence in the Administration, the Federal Reserve has much more impact.   Some presidential policies can take years before seeing an effect and good or bad, the person in the Oval Office down the road gets credit...or the blame.

Presidents, just like football coaches, can make a blunder and lose the game, or call a great play and win. Like a coach's ball team, though, there are more players involved in the game, ditto for those in the game of politics. Just like a coach, a President often gets the blame for things out of his control and often takes the credit for things others did.

You might want to take a look at the majorities in the House of Representatives during both good and bad economic times. They are, after all, the branch with the authority to initiate tax increases or spending proposals. It might surprise you (IOW, not fit your narrative) and at the very least it would verify there's more than enough blame to go around.

The top tax rate in the 1950's was 90%. If only we could have real politicians advocating reasonable rates like that

Fewer millionaires and billionaires back then, too. I hope a LOT of Democrat politicians (and a goodly number of Republicans) take up that cause. It would be lovely to watch their political careers come to a screeching halt. They'd self-term limit.

...a polygraph .... is so ineffective and prone to error that it isn't admissible in court.

Polygraph tests are admissible in certain states and in federal court at the discretion of the trial judge. States like California, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and Florida allow the tests if everyone stipulates to their use and agrees to admit the results into evidence.

Michigan voters elected and re-elected a dictator that intentionally poisoned an entire city.

Definition of a dictator: a ruler who wields absolute authority.  If Snyder was a dictator, then why did he even need to run for office?  Another one of your totally absurd statements.

From Wiki: Flint water crisis "Governor Snyder issued an apology to citizens and promised to fix the problem, and then sent $28 million to Flint for supplies, medical care and infrastructure upgrades, and later budgeted an additional $30 million to Flint that will give water bill credits of 65% for residents and 20% for businesses. Another $165 million for lead pipe replacements and water bill reimbursements was approved by Governor Snyder on June 29, 2016."

I'd like to know how he planned to poison only those voters who voted against him and not the ones who did.  I guess if he was a dictator like your idol Stalin, killing millions in order to weed out the few who opposed him would be the thing to do.

Honestly, your hyperbole is ludicrous.  I've told you a hundred million billion times to not exaggerate!

This being the south, they will most likely only ask the welfare office about black winners while they will give white winners the money no questions asked.

"Most likely". I see what you did there, added an "out" in opinion form. There's no rebuttal to that, but neither is there any truth. It's just a hateful, bigoted thing to say...but why am I not surprised since it comes from you? All the hate you aim towards others is merely projection on your part. It's easy to see you're a self-loathing, white-guilt infested bigoted liar...and a Commie wannabe, to boot.  You think that if America is transformed into your Socialist dream world, YOU'LL be one of the privileged few, ruling the plebes and instead of having a dacha on the Black Sea like the Soviet elite, yours will be in the Catskills. 

So, I'd say "Shame on you!" for lying, but I hate that phrase, it's something the Democrats love to fling at Republicans. You really need to slink on out of here, have Todd delete your account because I HAVE just shamed you in front of God (or that "bearded sky fairy", whichever you prefer) and everyone. I've exposed you for the liar you are.  We'll see now if you apologize for your lies or continue on with them.

There's one more Progressive lie that needs to be addressed:  It's not that Conservatives dislike higher education, nothing could be farther from the truth, but rather that Progressives have disdain for blue collar workers, the ones who actually produce goods and build things by the sweat of their brows. Well, those workers who are Conservative, anyway.
I'm sorry that you have so much student loan debt, but you could have paid ME to teach you, giving me just 40 grand out of the 80 you owe and got twice the education.  Don't believe me?  Look how I schooled you with this post!

Then again, Judge Smails would have given you some FREE advice:

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Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 6, 2016

No, KingofDerp, facts aren't "borderline insanity" but someone would have to be crazy to believe the ones you've spewed forth.

You challenged:  Then do it, show us something this (that is?)  contradictory or factually incorrect.

I went through your posts and picked out your "greatest hits" to focus upon.  "They didn't have a good beat, Dick, and were hard to dance to!"  Sorry, showing my age.  I think they're in reverse order for the most part, most recent to earliest, although there are a few I combined under the same topic. 

Who cares? They're all a crock, anyway.

I want to preface my rebuttal with how I want to point out I have tried to avoid using the term "Liberal", especially as a pejorative and have instead opted for "Progressive".  Classical liberalism makes up a large part of my own personal political beliefs.

The next several come from the same vomitus in a single post.

Conservatives and Republicans oppose the minimum wage

No, they don't.  A Pew research poll from a few years back said half of Republicans support a raise in min. wage.  I've since seen other more recent polls that show a majority of Republicans favor an increase,  but not to the levels the Democrats propose.

As has been explained to you in here, min. wage was always intended to be a starting wage for people entering the work force, not a perpetual one. I've read that, in McDonalds case, it wouldn't raise the price of a burger by much. That's probably true in some other areas, too, but I'd also bet it will reduce the numbers of those entry level employees hired. McD's is already working on automation and I bet other businesses will follow suit because labor costs are usually 70% of any business's overhead. Sure, raise it if you must, but it HAS to be gradual or the wage hike will have some adverse repercussions, a ripple effect which would turn into a tidal wave and wreak havoc with our economy. 

That's one of the most fundamental differences between Progressives and Conservatives; a Conservative says "Wait a minute, let's not be too hasty, let's think about it, discuss it before doing anything." Progressives are like spoiled children, wanting something not just NOW, but yesterday and they hold their breath and stomp their widdle feet until the adults (Conservatives) give in.

support homophobia

Sure, you have some religious types who were anti-gay marriage, dislike the gay "lifestyle", but at least they're steadfast in their opposition while many Democrats only switched when they saw which way the political wind was blowing. Me? I'm a conservative small L libertarian and I had no objection other than semantics. Marriage has always been defined as a religious union between a man and a woman. (and "gay" meant happy) On the civil rights side, I saw nothing wrong with civil unions, but my libertarian bent makes me chafe that govt. has ANYTHING to do with marriage to begin with.

support women dying from illegal abortions etc etc, it's pretty clear which side of the spectrum has concern for human life

Ah, the "coat hanger" argument. Doesn't fly, Mommie Dearest. I want to say "most", but instead will say "many" conservatives would allow for abortion in cases of rape, incest and life of the mother. "Back alley abortions" account for only 200 at most each year, as opposed to the nearly million legal abortions. It's estimated that there have been well over 50 million abortions since Roe v. Wade. That's a staggering number, but what I find sickening is how abortion is celebrated as a woman's right to choose, yet nothing is mentioned about the unborn's right to life, their civil rights being terminated along with the pregnancy. Of course, since the baby is "only a lump of tissue", then they have no rights, right?

All that said, it's the law but there's also nothing illegal about people being against the practice. (unless the only opinion that counts is yours and those like-minded, huh?) There is a need for regulation, though, because it is a medical procedure, after all.  Even a transgender person is required to have counseling before surgery.
"Up to the point of viability!" is the cry of abortion supporters, a reluctant sop to those who would reasonably restrict abortion to before the last trimester.  Why stop there, why not do "post-birth" abortions? I mean...a baby can't live w/out care from the mother (and/or father) for several years after being born. Good grief, I know teenagers and grown men who couldn't survive on their own for more than a week w/out someone taking care of them.

No, let's extend that time to at least a year after birth. That way you Progressives can get rid of the mentally challenged, the crippled, the wrong sex, the ones that are unattractive...just name the defect, and terminate it and the "host" that carries it. A financial burden?  Throw it in the trash. Ruin your figure?  Abort the "lump".  Simply can't be bothered?  Throw the baby out with the bathwater!  We all know that's what you Progressives want, what your leftist heroes of the past did. THAT'S the "side of the spectrum" that has no concern for human life.

Not long ago I read an article that called for climate change deniers to be killed. That's the Progressive way, right? How many did Stalin and Mao, other leftists, murder only because they dared to speak out? Do the research on THAT and get back to me about "which spectrum" values human life more.

Elect a Leftist, or even a centrist like Sanders and you'd get very different results.

Sanders, a centrist? Bwwaaaaa!

The most extreme cases of political correctness are in the right, not the left

Did I spell "Bwwaaaa!" correctly above? That comes close to the most idiotic thing you've ever said, not to mention the biggest whopper.

Davy Crockett existed, the hat did not at the time. Also him and a few others were captured alive and executed.

Oops, your beloved Wiki says otherwise: Coonskin cap  I won't post the information, but I want you to read it with your own lyin' eyes.  Needless to say, the cap existed long before The Battle of the Alamo.

(I know a little bit about coons because my pop used to hunt them when I was just a little guy.  He must have started feeling guilty about it because later when I was a young man, he'd bring home abandoned raccoon kits and we'd raise them.  One used to love to ride on his shoulder while he drove around checking his leases.  Here's a short lesson in coon anatomy, just to lighten up this post a bit)

I see that you're choosing to believe the Billy Bob Thornton movie version instead of The Duke's. Fine by me, but it serves as proof you prefer to get your history from Hollywood movies instead of books.  Once again, from Wiki: Davy Crockett "All that is certain (my emphasis) about the fate of David Crockett is that he died fighting at the Alamo on the morning of March 6, 1836, at age 49."

Being a Texan and lover of history, I already knew that the Billy Bob movie version ending came from a Mexican officer's journal, a man named la Peña. Due to the fact that no other manuscript has ever been uncovered corroborating la Peña's account, it's not been accepted as anything close to being factual and most historical scholars think it a hoax. If you'll read the Wiki article, you'll see that Alamo survivors of the battle stated something altogether differently in regards to how Crockett died.

I bet you get your "facts" about climate change from An Inconvenient Truth, your "facts" about the Kennedy assassination from Oliver Stone's JFK and your "facts" about the Vietnam War from Apocalypse Now. Am I right or am I right?  Hooray for Hollywood, passing lies off as truth, glorifying the worst of our culture (and contributing to its decline), ridiculing any other opinions but their own...warping idiot's minds for a century!

Oh please, pretty please bring up Gasland and how hydraulic fracturing (fracking) is bad. I'll blow you out of the not-burning water with FACTS, Jack.   On second thought, never mind;  I'm sure you'll attempt to use "facts" that are anything but.  I've spent more than enough time on exposing you as it is. 

Anyway...you damyankees need to tend to your own history books, leave ours alone. Sure, we Texans like our historical heroic myths and sometimes our text books contain the wrong information, but sweep around your own door first.

Live off welfare like 90% of Southern Republicans

and this one:

70% of the 47% are elderly and Republicans in the conferacy.[sic] You old Southern Reps are the laziest and most ignorant leeches in the world.

I've done a LOT of reading about the meme that "Blue states support Red states". First of all, the 90% figure needs to be flushed down the toilet, just like many other of your "facts". The "Blue vs. Red" division needs to be stabbed in the heart, because it's not only more complicated than that, it's also a lie.

If you ever take the time to look at red/blue spots by voting demographics, you'll see that the U.S. is more "purple" than simply red or blue. Makes sense if you look at how the last several presidential elections went, but then again, if you'll look closer, you'll see that many states that voted for the Democrat presidential candidate have a majority of Republicans in their state houses as well as represented in Congress and vice versa in others. Others, not all.

So, saying a state is either red or blue depends upon how they voted in the last Presidential election is a case of mislabeling. Except for blue states such as NY and Mass., several others in the northeast and on the west coast, some so-called red states like Florida have flipped back and forth.

Then too, just like any other analysis of statistics, one must "drill down" and consider other numbers and variables. For instance, Texas is a "red state", right? Well, look at some of the largest population density regions, such as the Valley and Houston, etc. They're solidly "Blue" and other large Texas cities are "light Blue". Large urban centers vote Democrat, that's a fact. Consider New Orleans in Louisiana, Atlanta in Georgia, other huge cities in red states. They vote Democrat.  Again, that's a fact, look it up. 

A Pew study and poll showed Democrats were responsible for 60+% of the benefits taken.  I've seen other articles claim the figure is closer to 80% in some categories.   Consider the huge numbers of Democrats in those urban centers, it's obvious that it's not Southern Republicans taking the welfare, it's that they are supporting the Democrat voters - the "leeches" - in their states. 

I'm sure you'll try to come back with social security figures or how much each state gets in Federal dollars vs. what they pay back, etc., but that argument is often made by misleading statistics or over-simplifying them or not accounting that - for example - that many "red" states have more military bases (pork projects from past Democratic Representatives) and that "red" states like Florida and Arizona have a larger than average elderly population using their PAID FOR benefits like SSI and Medicare.   Add in Federal land in "red" states that have a big influx of federal dollars (many Western states)  and even that equation changes which would prove you even more wrong. 

The US has no gun control laws

You mean I can go buy a machine gun? Wow, I always thought I had to have an expensive Federal license, be investigated, pay a yearly fee, be subject to visits by the ATF to make sure I still have possession of the weapon and all that!

If that's the case, I want a Thompson (Tommy gun) , you 'n me can be just like Bonny and Clyde (I'll be Clyde, of course).  No, scratch that, I want a 50-caliber to go hunting with, we got some big jackrabbits here in Texas.  No, no, I want one of those Warthog 30mm Gatling guns to mount on top of my house so I can shoot the speeders as they whiz by.

Biggest lie you've told and that's saying' sumpthin'. Of COURSE we have gun control laws. Did you type that with a straight face or was it intended to be a lie, Mr. Goebbels?

Yeah, let's ban guns, bans worked so well during Prohibition and with our current drug laws. 

I hope you're the one who comes to take my few firearms away. Just be warned that I'll give you the ammunition first, very quickly...a little faster than the speed of sound, in fact. 

If you want to take away my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, then you're a traitor and need to have your citizenship terminated...with "extreme prejudice".

Bernie is a moderate centrist who flip flops between the center-left and center-right.

No, he's not a "moderate centrist". If he were, he'd be a middle-of-the-road Republican, a RINO or at best, a conservative Democrat (a rare bird, the numbers of which would rival those of the passenger pigeon.) He says he's a Democratic Socialist, just using a word like "Democratic"  trying to disguise his true affiliation - Communist.  He ran as an Independent to further disguise his true ideology.  He aligned himself with the Democrats only for relevancy...but that the Democrats allowed him to run on their ticket speaks volumes about THEIR true ideology.

(and let's get something else straight;  while "Progressive", "Socialist", "Communist" and "Marxist" DO all have different definitions, their desired end results are all exactly the same - a totalitarian regime.)

Granted, he struck a chord with the younger generation, but his supporters were mostly a thankfully small percentage of the newest voting generation, the narcissistic, self-absorbed whiners. Like you.

Taxes are absurdly low, we need real increases

No, they're not and no we don't. We need to cut spending. Anyone who has ever budgeted for a household or business could attest to that. It's only the leeches and "gimme" crowd that think that. Like you think.

The over 35 crowd have had everything handed to them on a silver platter

Yeah, those darn Boomers! I'm a Boomer, but I never had a silver platter or anything handed to me on one.  I DO know a few folks who fit that description, but that's true of any generation.

Add "Ageist" to your growing list of bigoted beliefs.

Seriously, sounds like your generation actually believed Harry Potter and that all the problems can be solved by a simple flick of the wand. Thank goodness it's not, because you pouting pusillanimous punks would be screaming "Avada Kedavra" at everyone with white hair or wrinkles. How 'bout instead of whining on message boards, you go actually DO something to change the world? Oh, I forget, that would require work and participation and actual interaction with others on a personal and REAL level, not moaning about it online or having to look up from your cell phones. Like you do.

There's a reason no one lives in no tax places like Wyoming and South Dakota.

From Wiki: Wyoming Population: 2015 (est) 586,107  I see, a half-million+ people is "no one". You think so few people live there because of no corporate tax or personal income tax and NOT because of the cold-as-hell winters? I'd say the fact that the U.S. govt. owns nearly half of Wyoming has something to do with it as well.

From Wiki: South Dakota Population 2015 (est) 858,469 Where exactly is the cut off that defines "no one"? According to you, it's not rural flight but because they're mostly Republican voting states and not nearly Socialist enough. Have I interpreted your insinuation correctly? Of course, both of those states are largely agricultural based without a lot of heavy industry, so they're not going to have a huge GDP OR population.

California has a surplus and a stable budget as a result of raising taxes on the rich.

Sorry, but this is from Breitbart, which I know you despise as a source, but they also post links to their information cited...just like Wikipedia, which you claim to be a reputable cite. (not saying it is or isn't, just that if you want us to accept Wiki, then you need to accept Breitbart or admit that you're the hypocrite most of the rest of us already realize.)

California Budget in Deficit as Silicon Valley Falters
From the site: "The bipartisan Legislative Analysts’ Office has announced that California’s 2015-16 personal income tax collection has fallen from a huge surplus to a $147 million deficit. The cause appears to be plummeting Silicon Valley capital gains and weakening tech employment."

Also, note the date of the article - Feb. 5th of this yr. YOUR assertion of "facts" was made on July 8th. So, what's your excuse? You had your head buried in the sand for five months, or didn't want to bring it up because it wouldn't fit your narrative? Personally, I think it's because you're a habitual liar. Using your reasoning on other matters, I'd have to say ALL Socialists are liars. To top that off, you went on with this:

Meanwhile states like Kansas and Louisiana which cut taxes on the rich dramatically are economic wasteland

Kansas "The Bureau of Economic Analysis estimates that the total GDP in 2008 was $122.7 billion, making it the United States's 32nd highest state by GDP." Hmmm. While it ranks in the bottom half of states in GDP, it's also a largely agricultural state and has also suffered from rural flight. It's also 34th in population, so being 32nd in GDP isn't all that bad with that considered.

The state is ranked #8 in both oil and gas production, but prices are down and that's certainly not helping the economics of that state. My own royalties have been horrible lately. Yep, a Texan who owns (part of) several gas wells...in Oklahoma, bless that brilliantly red state, so glad it's such a great neighbor! I wish OU wouldn't kick UT's butt so often in football, but I still love the state.

Louisiana 25th in population, 24th in GDP. Smack dab in the middle of all the states isn't exactly what I'd call an "economic wasteland".

Only a stupid person responds with ad hominum [sic] attacks rather then accept facts.

This one made me laugh...well "snicker", actually. You've done a fair amount of mud-slinging, against Republicans, Conservatives (and the two aren't mutually inclusive, you should know), Christians, southern states, etc. Pot, meet kettle.  You could call it "blow back" for years of abuse of Conservatives.  We now realize insults hurt you thin-skinned progressives.  You can dish it out, but you can't take it. 

Everyone pays for a service and that service provides it free of charge to everyone.

THIS one makes me shake my head and think "Did he really just say that?" If someone has to pay for a service, then how is it free? Honestly, do you really THINK before you type this stuff out? This is what I'd expect to find on a used wad of toilet paper, not coming from the brain of an "educated" "intellectual", self-admitted Socialist. Maybe what's on that TP is what you have for brains?

The minimum wage of a server is $2.15

Another "fact" that happens to be wrong: Tipped wage in the United States "The American federal government requires a wage of at least $2.13 per hour be paid to employees that receive at least $30 per month in tips. If wages and tips do not equal the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour during any pay period, the employer is required to increase cash wages to compensate. As of May 2012, the average hourly wage – including tips – for a restaurant employee in the United States that received tip income was $11.82."

Not off by much, only a couple of pennies, but that two cents represents the value of the "facts" you claim. I noticed you didn't bring up the compensation that's mandated by law.

Besides all that, it's always someone of YOUR generation who is a server or preparer who thinks it's fine to spit in someone's food, be it a poor tipper or someone of a different race or a cop or a soldier. Yep, you guys need to be rewarded for that, for sure....with a whack of a bat across the mouth, let you spit out a few teeth instead of phlegm on someone's burger.   Too violent?  OK, then...let's go around to any pool hall and empty the spittoons around all the domino tables, fill up a five gallon bucket and shove the spitter's head in it.  Do it a few times until they got the message that when you do something nasty as spitting in someone's food, then something nasty happens to the offender.

You don't want me to get started on what I'd do to taggers and graffitti "artists".

The Christian Taliban wants only the wealthy elite to go to college

What nonsense! "Christian Taliban" is an oxymoron. It's a pseudo hate phrase created by anti-Christian bigoted leftists and so-called "tolerant liberals". It's akin to saying "a carnivorous vegetarian" and is a sophomoric insult (Ironically, "sophomore" is thought to have derived from the Greek for "wise fool", another oxymoron, although in your case it's quite apt)

To state this clearer: There's no such thing. This. Doesn't. Exist.

(Disclaimer: Those aren't my words;  I saw them when I Googled the term, but liked them so much I decided to include them)

He's not the one who believes that a bearded sky fairy controls our lives and that fatal cancer in children is a sign that this sky fairy is good and we need to worship said monster.

While I certainly wouldn't argue against that some Christians are full of hate, IMHO they're really not Christians, not by deed or definition. Lumping them all together, however, is stereotyping and that in itself is a form of bigotry. While anecdotes and personal observations can't qualify as "facts", why is it the most hateful and unhinged people that I see posting in forums and message boards are atheists?

Honestly, why does a monument with the Ten Commandments on the courthouse lawn send you atheists into apoplectic fits?  Like it or not, they were a basis for American law and should be taken into historical significance if for no other reason.

Me? I'm an "optimistic agnostic", so I don't really have a dog in the fight except that some of my dearest friends are Christians and I won't stand for them to be slandered. They're all flawed humans, just like the rest of us (you included...especially you), but it is their QUEST for perfection, their attempt to walk in Jesus' footsteps that makes them Christians.  None I've ever known revel in others misfortunes and if they did, they wouldn't be Christians OR my friends.

While they might turn the other cheek if you insulted them, if I was there when you said it I'd snatch you up by your hair and try my best to break your nose. (and I'm fairly certain I could do it even though I bet I have four decades on you in age.) That wouldn't be warm rain falling on your face as you lay there stunned afterwards, either. Being pretty much of a heathen, I won't have to ask forgiveness from either you OR the "bearded sky fairy". I'll just need bail money, that's all. (that is, if you press charges, pretty much what wussies do after they get their butts kicked)

82% of the 47% are either old or are poor people in the red southern states that Trump won by massive margins, facts can't be disputed

There's not even any need to attempt to rebut this because, like most of your "facts", you pulled this out of your anal orifice. I not only disputed your "facts" up above, I destroyed them.

MSNBC is for center-right moderate conservatives like Obama or Hillary.

I'm pretty sure Socialists and sane people don't use the same dictionary and I'm not sure we even live on the same planet.  Good grief. Apparently according to you anyone who is a fraction of an inch to the right of Mao is "center-right".

The Obama economy is far better than either Bush economy or the Reagan economy this time in their terms

Uh, not exactly true- the charts I saw showed "Obama's economy" to be below Reagan's and only slightly better than Bush's at the same point in time.  Other than public confidence in the Administration, the Federal Reserve has much more impact.   Some presidential policies can take years before seeing an effect and good or bad, the person in the Oval Office down the road gets credit...or the blame.

Presidents, just like football coaches, can make a blunder and lose the game, or call a great play and win. Like a coach's ball team, though, there are more players involved in the game, ditto for those in the game of politics. Just like a coach, a President often gets the blame for things out of his control and often takes the credit for things others did.

You might want to take a look at the majorities in the House of Representatives during both good and bad economic times. They are, after all, the branch with the authority to initiate tax increases or spending proposals. It might surprise you (IOW, not fit your narrative) and at the very least it would verify there's more than enough blame to go around.

The top tax rate in the 1950's was 90%. If only we could have real politicians advocating reasonable rates like that

Fewer millionaires and billionaires back then, too. I hope a LOT of Democrat politicians (and a goodly number of Republicans) take up that cause. It would be lovely to watch their political careers come to a screeching halt. They'd self-term limit.

...a polygraph .... is so ineffective and prone to error that it isn't admissible in court.

Polygraph tests are admissible in certain states and in federal court at the discretion of the trial judge. States like California, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and Florida allow the tests if everyone stipulates to their use and agrees to admit the results into evidence.

Michigan voters elected and re-elected a dictator that intentionally poisoned an entire city.

Definition of a dictator: a ruler who wields absolute authority.  If Snyder was a dictator, then why did he even need to run for office?  Another one of your totally absurd statements.

From Wiki: Flint water crisis "Governor Snyder issued an apology to citizens and promised to fix the problem, and then sent $28 million to Flint for supplies, medical care and infrastructure upgrades, and later budgeted an additional $30 million to Flint that will give water bill credits of 65% for residents and 20% for businesses. Another $165 million for lead pipe replacements and water bill reimbursements was approved by Governor Snyder on June 29, 2016."

I'd like to know how he planned to poison only those voters who voted against him and not the ones who did.  I guess if he was a dictator like your idol Stalin, killing millions in order to weed out the few who opposed him would be the thing to do.

Honestly, your hyperbole is ludicrous.  I've told you a hundred million billion times to not exaggerate!

This being the south, they will most likely only ask the welfare office about black winners while they will give white winners the money no questions asked.

"Most likely". I see what you did there, added an "out" in opinion form. There's no rebuttal to that, but neither is there any truth. It's just a hateful, bigoted thing to say...but why am I not surprised since it comes from you? All the hate you aim towards others is merely projection on your part. It's easy to see you're a self-loathing, white-guilt infested bigoted liar...and a Commie wannabe, to boot.  You think that if America is transformed into your Socialist dream world, YOU'LL be one of the privileged few, ruling the plebes and instead of having a dacha on the Black Sea like the Soviet elite, yours will be in the Catskills. 

So, I'd say "Shame on you!" for lying, but I hate that phrase, it's something the Democrats love to fling at Republicans. You really need to slink on out of here, have Todd delete your account because I HAVE just shamed you in front of God (or that "bearded sky fairy", whichever you prefer) and everyone. I've exposed you for the liar you are.  We'll see now if you apologize for your lies or continue on with them.

There's one more Progressive lie that needs to be addressed:  It's not that Conservatives dislike higher education, nothing could be farther from the truth, but rather that Progressives have disdain for blue collar workers, the ones who actually produce goods and build things by the sweat of their brows. Well, those workers who are Conservative, anyway.
I'm sorry that you have so much student loan debt, but you could have paid ME to teach you, giving me just 40 grand out of the 80 you owe and got twice the education.  Don't believe me?  Look how I schooled you with this post!

Then again, Judge Smails would have given you some FREE advice:

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Thanks Mike, you are awesome!

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Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 6, 2016

No, KingofDerp, facts aren't "borderline insanity" but someone would have to be crazy to believe the ones you've spewed forth.

You challenged:  Then do it, show us something this (that is?)  contradictory or factually incorrect.

I went through your posts and picked out your "greatest hits" to focus upon.  "They didn't have a good beat, Dick, and were hard to dance to!"  Sorry, showing my age.  I think they're in reverse order for the most part, most recent to earliest, although there are a few I combined under the same topic. 

Who cares? They're all a crock, anyway.

I want to preface my rebuttal with how I want to point out I have tried to avoid using the term "Liberal", especially as a pejorative and have instead opted for "Progressive".  Classical liberalism makes up a large part of my own personal political beliefs.

The next several come from the same vomitus in a single post.

Conservatives and Republicans oppose the minimum wage

No, they don't.  A Pew research poll from a few years back said half of Republicans support a raise in min. wage.  I've since seen other more recent polls that show a majority of Republicans favor an increase,  but not to the levels the Democrats propose.

As has been explained to you in here, min. wage was always intended to be a starting wage for people entering the work force, not a perpetual one. I've read that, in McDonalds case, it wouldn't raise the price of a burger by much. That's probably true in some other areas, too, but I'd also bet it will reduce the numbers of those entry level employees hired. McD's is already working on automation and I bet other businesses will follow suit because labor costs are usually 70% of any business's overhead. Sure, raise it if you must, but it HAS to be gradual or the wage hike will have some adverse repercussions, a ripple effect which would turn into a tidal wave and wreak havoc with our economy. 

That's one of the most fundamental differences between Progressives and Conservatives; a Conservative says "Wait a minute, let's not be too hasty, let's think about it, discuss it before doing anything." Progressives are like spoiled children, wanting something not just NOW, but yesterday and they hold their breath and stomp their widdle feet until the adults (Conservatives) give in.

support homophobia

Sure, you have some religious types who were anti-gay marriage, dislike the gay "lifestyle", but at least they're steadfast in their opposition while many Democrats only switched when they saw which way the political wind was blowing. Me? I'm a conservative small L libertarian and I had no objection other than semantics. Marriage has always been defined as a religious union between a man and a woman. (and "gay" meant happy) On the civil rights side, I saw nothing wrong with civil unions, but my libertarian bent makes me chafe that govt. has ANYTHING to do with marriage to begin with.

support women dying from illegal abortions etc etc, it's pretty clear which side of the spectrum has concern for human life

Ah, the "coat hanger" argument. Doesn't fly, Mommie Dearest. I want to say "most", but instead will say "many" conservatives would allow for abortion in cases of rape, incest and life of the mother. "Back alley abortions" account for only 200 at most each year, as opposed to the nearly million legal abortions. It's estimated that there have been well over 50 million abortions since Roe v. Wade. That's a staggering number, but what I find sickening is how abortion is celebrated as a woman's right to choose, yet nothing is mentioned about the unborn's right to life, their civil rights being terminated along with the pregnancy. Of course, since the baby is "only a lump of tissue", then they have no rights, right?

All that said, it's the law but there's also nothing illegal about people being against the practice. (unless the only opinion that counts is yours and those like-minded, huh?) There is a need for regulation, though, because it is a medical procedure, after all.  Even a transgender person is required to have counseling before surgery.
"Up to the point of viability!" is the cry of abortion supporters, a reluctant sop to those who would reasonably restrict abortion to before the last trimester.  Why stop there, why not do "post-birth" abortions? I mean...a baby can't live w/out care from the mother (and/or father) for several years after being born. Good grief, I know teenagers and grown men who couldn't survive on their own for more than a week w/out someone taking care of them.

No, let's extend that time to at least a year after birth. That way you Progressives can get rid of the mentally challenged, the crippled, the wrong sex, the ones that are unattractive...just name the defect, and terminate it and the "host" that carries it. A financial burden?  Throw it in the trash. Ruin your figure?  Abort the "lump".  Simply can't be bothered?  Throw the baby out with the bathwater!  We all know that's what you Progressives want, what your leftist heroes of the past did. THAT'S the "side of the spectrum" that has no concern for human life.

Not long ago I read an article that called for climate change deniers to be killed. That's the Progressive way, right? How many did Stalin and Mao, other leftists, murder only because they dared to speak out? Do the research on THAT and get back to me about "which spectrum" values human life more.

Elect a Leftist, or even a centrist like Sanders and you'd get very different results.

Sanders, a centrist? Bwwaaaaa!

The most extreme cases of political correctness are in the right, not the left

Did I spell "Bwwaaaa!" correctly above? That comes close to the most idiotic thing you've ever said, not to mention the biggest whopper.

Davy Crockett existed, the hat did not at the time. Also him and a few others were captured alive and executed.

Oops, your beloved Wiki says otherwise: Coonskin cap  I won't post the information, but I want you to read it with your own lyin' eyes.  Needless to say, the cap existed long before The Battle of the Alamo.

(I know a little bit about coons because my pop used to hunt them when I was just a little guy.  He must have started feeling guilty about it because later when I was a young man, he'd bring home abandoned raccoon kits and we'd raise them.  One used to love to ride on his shoulder while he drove around checking his leases.  Here's a short lesson in coon anatomy, just to lighten up this post a bit)

I see that you're choosing to believe the Billy Bob Thornton movie version instead of The Duke's. Fine by me, but it serves as proof you prefer to get your history from Hollywood movies instead of books.  Once again, from Wiki: Davy Crockett "All that is certain (my emphasis) about the fate of David Crockett is that he died fighting at the Alamo on the morning of March 6, 1836, at age 49."

Being a Texan and lover of history, I already knew that the Billy Bob movie version ending came from a Mexican officer's journal, a man named la Peña. Due to the fact that no other manuscript has ever been uncovered corroborating la Peña's account, it's not been accepted as anything close to being factual and most historical scholars think it a hoax. If you'll read the Wiki article, you'll see that Alamo survivors of the battle stated something altogether differently in regards to how Crockett died.

I bet you get your "facts" about climate change from An Inconvenient Truth, your "facts" about the Kennedy assassination from Oliver Stone's JFK and your "facts" about the Vietnam War from Apocalypse Now. Am I right or am I right?  Hooray for Hollywood, passing lies off as truth, glorifying the worst of our culture (and contributing to its decline), ridiculing any other opinions but their own...warping idiot's minds for a century!

Oh please, pretty please bring up Gasland and how hydraulic fracturing (fracking) is bad. I'll blow you out of the not-burning water with FACTS, Jack.   On second thought, never mind;  I'm sure you'll attempt to use "facts" that are anything but.  I've spent more than enough time on exposing you as it is. 

Anyway...you damyankees need to tend to your own history books, leave ours alone. Sure, we Texans like our historical heroic myths and sometimes our text books contain the wrong information, but sweep around your own door first.

Live off welfare like 90% of Southern Republicans

and this one:

70% of the 47% are elderly and Republicans in the conferacy.[sic] You old Southern Reps are the laziest and most ignorant leeches in the world.

I've done a LOT of reading about the meme that "Blue states support Red states". First of all, the 90% figure needs to be flushed down the toilet, just like many other of your "facts". The "Blue vs. Red" division needs to be stabbed in the heart, because it's not only more complicated than that, it's also a lie.

If you ever take the time to look at red/blue spots by voting demographics, you'll see that the U.S. is more "purple" than simply red or blue. Makes sense if you look at how the last several presidential elections went, but then again, if you'll look closer, you'll see that many states that voted for the Democrat presidential candidate have a majority of Republicans in their state houses as well as represented in Congress and vice versa in others. Others, not all.

So, saying a state is either red or blue depends upon how they voted in the last Presidential election is a case of mislabeling. Except for blue states such as NY and Mass., several others in the northeast and on the west coast, some so-called red states like Florida have flipped back and forth.

Then too, just like any other analysis of statistics, one must "drill down" and consider other numbers and variables. For instance, Texas is a "red state", right? Well, look at some of the largest population density regions, such as the Valley and Houston, etc. They're solidly "Blue" and other large Texas cities are "light Blue". Large urban centers vote Democrat, that's a fact. Consider New Orleans in Louisiana, Atlanta in Georgia, other huge cities in red states. They vote Democrat.  Again, that's a fact, look it up. 

A Pew study and poll showed Democrats were responsible for 60+% of the benefits taken.  I've seen other articles claim the figure is closer to 80% in some categories.   Consider the huge numbers of Democrats in those urban centers, it's obvious that it's not Southern Republicans taking the welfare, it's that they are supporting the Democrat voters - the "leeches" - in their states. 

I'm sure you'll try to come back with social security figures or how much each state gets in Federal dollars vs. what they pay back, etc., but that argument is often made by misleading statistics or over-simplifying them or not accounting that - for example - that many "red" states have more military bases (pork projects from past Democratic Representatives) and that "red" states like Florida and Arizona have a larger than average elderly population using their PAID FOR benefits like SSI and Medicare.   Add in Federal land in "red" states that have a big influx of federal dollars (many Western states)  and even that equation changes which would prove you even more wrong. 

The US has no gun control laws

You mean I can go buy a machine gun? Wow, I always thought I had to have an expensive Federal license, be investigated, pay a yearly fee, be subject to visits by the ATF to make sure I still have possession of the weapon and all that!

If that's the case, I want a Thompson (Tommy gun) , you 'n me can be just like Bonny and Clyde (I'll be Clyde, of course).  No, scratch that, I want a 50-caliber to go hunting with, we got some big jackrabbits here in Texas.  No, no, I want one of those Warthog 30mm Gatling guns to mount on top of my house so I can shoot the speeders as they whiz by.

Biggest lie you've told and that's saying' sumpthin'. Of COURSE we have gun control laws. Did you type that with a straight face or was it intended to be a lie, Mr. Goebbels?

Yeah, let's ban guns, bans worked so well during Prohibition and with our current drug laws. 

I hope you're the one who comes to take my few firearms away. Just be warned that I'll give you the ammunition first, very quickly...a little faster than the speed of sound, in fact. 

If you want to take away my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, then you're a traitor and need to have your citizenship terminated...with "extreme prejudice".

Bernie is a moderate centrist who flip flops between the center-left and center-right.

No, he's not a "moderate centrist". If he were, he'd be a middle-of-the-road Republican, a RINO or at best, a conservative Democrat (a rare bird, the numbers of which would rival those of the passenger pigeon.) He says he's a Democratic Socialist, just using a word like "Democratic"  trying to disguise his true affiliation - Communist.  He ran as an Independent to further disguise his true ideology.  He aligned himself with the Democrats only for relevancy...but that the Democrats allowed him to run on their ticket speaks volumes about THEIR true ideology.

(and let's get something else straight;  while "Progressive", "Socialist", "Communist" and "Marxist" DO all have different definitions, their desired end results are all exactly the same - a totalitarian regime.)

Granted, he struck a chord with the younger generation, but his supporters were mostly a thankfully small percentage of the newest voting generation, the narcissistic, self-absorbed whiners. Like you.

Taxes are absurdly low, we need real increases

No, they're not and no we don't. We need to cut spending. Anyone who has ever budgeted for a household or business could attest to that. It's only the leeches and "gimme" crowd that think that. Like you think.

The over 35 crowd have had everything handed to them on a silver platter

Yeah, those darn Boomers! I'm a Boomer, but I never had a silver platter or anything handed to me on one.  I DO know a few folks who fit that description, but that's true of any generation.

Add "Ageist" to your growing list of bigoted beliefs.

Seriously, sounds like your generation actually believed Harry Potter and that all the problems can be solved by a simple flick of the wand. Thank goodness it's not, because you pouting pusillanimous punks would be screaming "Avada Kedavra" at everyone with white hair or wrinkles. How 'bout instead of whining on message boards, you go actually DO something to change the world? Oh, I forget, that would require work and participation and actual interaction with others on a personal and REAL level, not moaning about it online or having to look up from your cell phones. Like you do.

There's a reason no one lives in no tax places like Wyoming and South Dakota.

From Wiki: Wyoming Population: 2015 (est) 586,107  I see, a half-million+ people is "no one". You think so few people live there because of no corporate tax or personal income tax and NOT because of the cold-as-hell winters? I'd say the fact that the U.S. govt. owns nearly half of Wyoming has something to do with it as well.

From Wiki: South Dakota Population 2015 (est) 858,469 Where exactly is the cut off that defines "no one"? According to you, it's not rural flight but because they're mostly Republican voting states and not nearly Socialist enough. Have I interpreted your insinuation correctly? Of course, both of those states are largely agricultural based without a lot of heavy industry, so they're not going to have a huge GDP OR population.

California has a surplus and a stable budget as a result of raising taxes on the rich.

Sorry, but this is from Breitbart, which I know you despise as a source, but they also post links to their information cited...just like Wikipedia, which you claim to be a reputable cite. (not saying it is or isn't, just that if you want us to accept Wiki, then you need to accept Breitbart or admit that you're the hypocrite most of the rest of us already realize.)

California Budget in Deficit as Silicon Valley Falters
From the site: "The bipartisan Legislative Analysts’ Office has announced that California’s 2015-16 personal income tax collection has fallen from a huge surplus to a $147 million deficit. The cause appears to be plummeting Silicon Valley capital gains and weakening tech employment."

Also, note the date of the article - Feb. 5th of this yr. YOUR assertion of "facts" was made on July 8th. So, what's your excuse? You had your head buried in the sand for five months, or didn't want to bring it up because it wouldn't fit your narrative? Personally, I think it's because you're a habitual liar. Using your reasoning on other matters, I'd have to say ALL Socialists are liars. To top that off, you went on with this:

Meanwhile states like Kansas and Louisiana which cut taxes on the rich dramatically are economic wasteland

Kansas "The Bureau of Economic Analysis estimates that the total GDP in 2008 was $122.7 billion, making it the United States's 32nd highest state by GDP." Hmmm. While it ranks in the bottom half of states in GDP, it's also a largely agricultural state and has also suffered from rural flight. It's also 34th in population, so being 32nd in GDP isn't all that bad with that considered.

The state is ranked #8 in both oil and gas production, but prices are down and that's certainly not helping the economics of that state. My own royalties have been horrible lately. Yep, a Texan who owns (part of) several gas wells...in Oklahoma, bless that brilliantly red state, so glad it's such a great neighbor! I wish OU wouldn't kick UT's butt so often in football, but I still love the state.

Louisiana 25th in population, 24th in GDP. Smack dab in the middle of all the states isn't exactly what I'd call an "economic wasteland".

Only a stupid person responds with ad hominum [sic] attacks rather then accept facts.

This one made me laugh...well "snicker", actually. You've done a fair amount of mud-slinging, against Republicans, Conservatives (and the two aren't mutually inclusive, you should know), Christians, southern states, etc. Pot, meet kettle.  You could call it "blow back" for years of abuse of Conservatives.  We now realize insults hurt you thin-skinned progressives.  You can dish it out, but you can't take it. 

Everyone pays for a service and that service provides it free of charge to everyone.

THIS one makes me shake my head and think "Did he really just say that?" If someone has to pay for a service, then how is it free? Honestly, do you really THINK before you type this stuff out? This is what I'd expect to find on a used wad of toilet paper, not coming from the brain of an "educated" "intellectual", self-admitted Socialist. Maybe what's on that TP is what you have for brains?

The minimum wage of a server is $2.15

Another "fact" that happens to be wrong: Tipped wage in the United States "The American federal government requires a wage of at least $2.13 per hour be paid to employees that receive at least $30 per month in tips. If wages and tips do not equal the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour during any pay period, the employer is required to increase cash wages to compensate. As of May 2012, the average hourly wage – including tips – for a restaurant employee in the United States that received tip income was $11.82."

Not off by much, only a couple of pennies, but that two cents represents the value of the "facts" you claim. I noticed you didn't bring up the compensation that's mandated by law.

Besides all that, it's always someone of YOUR generation who is a server or preparer who thinks it's fine to spit in someone's food, be it a poor tipper or someone of a different race or a cop or a soldier. Yep, you guys need to be rewarded for that, for sure....with a whack of a bat across the mouth, let you spit out a few teeth instead of phlegm on someone's burger.   Too violent?  OK, then...let's go around to any pool hall and empty the spittoons around all the domino tables, fill up a five gallon bucket and shove the spitter's head in it.  Do it a few times until they got the message that when you do something nasty as spitting in someone's food, then something nasty happens to the offender.

You don't want me to get started on what I'd do to taggers and graffitti "artists".

The Christian Taliban wants only the wealthy elite to go to college

What nonsense! "Christian Taliban" is an oxymoron. It's a pseudo hate phrase created by anti-Christian bigoted leftists and so-called "tolerant liberals". It's akin to saying "a carnivorous vegetarian" and is a sophomoric insult (Ironically, "sophomore" is thought to have derived from the Greek for "wise fool", another oxymoron, although in your case it's quite apt)

To state this clearer: There's no such thing. This. Doesn't. Exist.

(Disclaimer: Those aren't my words;  I saw them when I Googled the term, but liked them so much I decided to include them)

He's not the one who believes that a bearded sky fairy controls our lives and that fatal cancer in children is a sign that this sky fairy is good and we need to worship said monster.

While I certainly wouldn't argue against that some Christians are full of hate, IMHO they're really not Christians, not by deed or definition. Lumping them all together, however, is stereotyping and that in itself is a form of bigotry. While anecdotes and personal observations can't qualify as "facts", why is it the most hateful and unhinged people that I see posting in forums and message boards are atheists?

Honestly, why does a monument with the Ten Commandments on the courthouse lawn send you atheists into apoplectic fits?  Like it or not, they were a basis for American law and should be taken into historical significance if for no other reason.

Me? I'm an "optimistic agnostic", so I don't really have a dog in the fight except that some of my dearest friends are Christians and I won't stand for them to be slandered. They're all flawed humans, just like the rest of us (you included...especially you), but it is their QUEST for perfection, their attempt to walk in Jesus' footsteps that makes them Christians.  None I've ever known revel in others misfortunes and if they did, they wouldn't be Christians OR my friends.

While they might turn the other cheek if you insulted them, if I was there when you said it I'd snatch you up by your hair and try my best to break your nose. (and I'm fairly certain I could do it even though I bet I have four decades on you in age.) That wouldn't be warm rain falling on your face as you lay there stunned afterwards, either. Being pretty much of a heathen, I won't have to ask forgiveness from either you OR the "bearded sky fairy". I'll just need bail money, that's all. (that is, if you press charges, pretty much what wussies do after they get their butts kicked)

82% of the 47% are either old or are poor people in the red southern states that Trump won by massive margins, facts can't be disputed

There's not even any need to attempt to rebut this because, like most of your "facts", you pulled this out of your anal orifice. I not only disputed your "facts" up above, I destroyed them.

MSNBC is for center-right moderate conservatives like Obama or Hillary.

I'm pretty sure Socialists and sane people don't use the same dictionary and I'm not sure we even live on the same planet.  Good grief. Apparently according to you anyone who is a fraction of an inch to the right of Mao is "center-right".

The Obama economy is far better than either Bush economy or the Reagan economy this time in their terms

Uh, not exactly true- the charts I saw showed "Obama's economy" to be below Reagan's and only slightly better than Bush's at the same point in time.  Other than public confidence in the Administration, the Federal Reserve has much more impact.   Some presidential policies can take years before seeing an effect and good or bad, the person in the Oval Office down the road gets credit...or the blame.

Presidents, just like football coaches, can make a blunder and lose the game, or call a great play and win. Like a coach's ball team, though, there are more players involved in the game, ditto for those in the game of politics. Just like a coach, a President often gets the blame for things out of his control and often takes the credit for things others did.

You might want to take a look at the majorities in the House of Representatives during both good and bad economic times. They are, after all, the branch with the authority to initiate tax increases or spending proposals. It might surprise you (IOW, not fit your narrative) and at the very least it would verify there's more than enough blame to go around.

The top tax rate in the 1950's was 90%. If only we could have real politicians advocating reasonable rates like that

Fewer millionaires and billionaires back then, too. I hope a LOT of Democrat politicians (and a goodly number of Republicans) take up that cause. It would be lovely to watch their political careers come to a screeching halt. They'd self-term limit.

...a polygraph .... is so ineffective and prone to error that it isn't admissible in court.

Polygraph tests are admissible in certain states and in federal court at the discretion of the trial judge. States like California, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and Florida allow the tests if everyone stipulates to their use and agrees to admit the results into evidence.

Michigan voters elected and re-elected a dictator that intentionally poisoned an entire city.

Definition of a dictator: a ruler who wields absolute authority.  If Snyder was a dictator, then why did he even need to run for office?  Another one of your totally absurd statements.

From Wiki: Flint water crisis "Governor Snyder issued an apology to citizens and promised to fix the problem, and then sent $28 million to Flint for supplies, medical care and infrastructure upgrades, and later budgeted an additional $30 million to Flint that will give water bill credits of 65% for residents and 20% for businesses. Another $165 million for lead pipe replacements and water bill reimbursements was approved by Governor Snyder on June 29, 2016."

I'd like to know how he planned to poison only those voters who voted against him and not the ones who did.  I guess if he was a dictator like your idol Stalin, killing millions in order to weed out the few who opposed him would be the thing to do.

Honestly, your hyperbole is ludicrous.  I've told you a hundred million billion times to not exaggerate!

This being the south, they will most likely only ask the welfare office about black winners while they will give white winners the money no questions asked.

"Most likely". I see what you did there, added an "out" in opinion form. There's no rebuttal to that, but neither is there any truth. It's just a hateful, bigoted thing to say...but why am I not surprised since it comes from you? All the hate you aim towards others is merely projection on your part. It's easy to see you're a self-loathing, white-guilt infested bigoted liar...and a Commie wannabe, to boot.  You think that if America is transformed into your Socialist dream world, YOU'LL be one of the privileged few, ruling the plebes and instead of having a dacha on the Black Sea like the Soviet elite, yours will be in the Catskills. 

So, I'd say "Shame on you!" for lying, but I hate that phrase, it's something the Democrats love to fling at Republicans. You really need to slink on out of here, have Todd delete your account because I HAVE just shamed you in front of God (or that "bearded sky fairy", whichever you prefer) and everyone. I've exposed you for the liar you are.  We'll see now if you apologize for your lies or continue on with them.

There's one more Progressive lie that needs to be addressed:  It's not that Conservatives dislike higher education, nothing could be farther from the truth, but rather that Progressives have disdain for blue collar workers, the ones who actually produce goods and build things by the sweat of their brows. Well, those workers who are Conservative, anyway.
I'm sorry that you have so much student loan debt, but you could have paid ME to teach you, giving me just 40 grand out of the 80 you owe and got twice the education.  Don't believe me?  Look how I schooled you with this post!

Then again, Judge Smails would have given you some FREE advice:

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Wow !!! You certainly had a lot to say !!! This is the longest post I've ever read !!!

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Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 6, 2016

Thanks Mike, you are awesome!

Yes, I am, aren't I? Embarassed

I only wish I had been born rich instead of handsome. Wink

I'm also exceedingly humble. ROFL

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Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Aug 6, 2016

Wow !!! You certainly had a lot to say !!! This is the longest post I've ever read !!!

Well, there were a LOT of lies to address. 

Thanks for reading it.

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Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 6, 2016

Yes, I am, aren't I? Embarassed

I only wish I had been born rich instead of handsome. Wink

I'm also exceedingly humble. ROFL

Excellent post.  Thank you humble man.

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Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 6, 2016

No, KingofDerp, facts aren't "borderline insanity" but someone would have to be crazy to believe the ones you've spewed forth.

You challenged:  Then do it, show us something this (that is?)  contradictory or factually incorrect.

I went through your posts and picked out your "greatest hits" to focus upon.  "They didn't have a good beat, Dick, and were hard to dance to!"  Sorry, showing my age.  I think they're in reverse order for the most part, most recent to earliest, although there are a few I combined under the same topic. 

Who cares? They're all a crock, anyway.

I want to preface my rebuttal with how I want to point out I have tried to avoid using the term "Liberal", especially as a pejorative and have instead opted for "Progressive".  Classical liberalism makes up a large part of my own personal political beliefs.

The next several come from the same vomitus in a single post.

Conservatives and Republicans oppose the minimum wage

No, they don't.  A Pew research poll from a few years back said half of Republicans support a raise in min. wage.  I've since seen other more recent polls that show a majority of Republicans favor an increase,  but not to the levels the Democrats propose.

As has been explained to you in here, min. wage was always intended to be a starting wage for people entering the work force, not a perpetual one. I've read that, in McDonalds case, it wouldn't raise the price of a burger by much. That's probably true in some other areas, too, but I'd also bet it will reduce the numbers of those entry level employees hired. McD's is already working on automation and I bet other businesses will follow suit because labor costs are usually 70% of any business's overhead. Sure, raise it if you must, but it HAS to be gradual or the wage hike will have some adverse repercussions, a ripple effect which would turn into a tidal wave and wreak havoc with our economy. 

That's one of the most fundamental differences between Progressives and Conservatives; a Conservative says "Wait a minute, let's not be too hasty, let's think about it, discuss it before doing anything." Progressives are like spoiled children, wanting something not just NOW, but yesterday and they hold their breath and stomp their widdle feet until the adults (Conservatives) give in.

support homophobia

Sure, you have some religious types who were anti-gay marriage, dislike the gay "lifestyle", but at least they're steadfast in their opposition while many Democrats only switched when they saw which way the political wind was blowing. Me? I'm a conservative small L libertarian and I had no objection other than semantics. Marriage has always been defined as a religious union between a man and a woman. (and "gay" meant happy) On the civil rights side, I saw nothing wrong with civil unions, but my libertarian bent makes me chafe that govt. has ANYTHING to do with marriage to begin with.

support women dying from illegal abortions etc etc, it's pretty clear which side of the spectrum has concern for human life

Ah, the "coat hanger" argument. Doesn't fly, Mommie Dearest. I want to say "most", but instead will say "many" conservatives would allow for abortion in cases of rape, incest and life of the mother. "Back alley abortions" account for only 200 at most each year, as opposed to the nearly million legal abortions. It's estimated that there have been well over 50 million abortions since Roe v. Wade. That's a staggering number, but what I find sickening is how abortion is celebrated as a woman's right to choose, yet nothing is mentioned about the unborn's right to life, their civil rights being terminated along with the pregnancy. Of course, since the baby is "only a lump of tissue", then they have no rights, right?

All that said, it's the law but there's also nothing illegal about people being against the practice. (unless the only opinion that counts is yours and those like-minded, huh?) There is a need for regulation, though, because it is a medical procedure, after all.  Even a transgender person is required to have counseling before surgery.
"Up to the point of viability!" is the cry of abortion supporters, a reluctant sop to those who would reasonably restrict abortion to before the last trimester.  Why stop there, why not do "post-birth" abortions? I mean...a baby can't live w/out care from the mother (and/or father) for several years after being born. Good grief, I know teenagers and grown men who couldn't survive on their own for more than a week w/out someone taking care of them.

No, let's extend that time to at least a year after birth. That way you Progressives can get rid of the mentally challenged, the crippled, the wrong sex, the ones that are unattractive...just name the defect, and terminate it and the "host" that carries it. A financial burden?  Throw it in the trash. Ruin your figure?  Abort the "lump".  Simply can't be bothered?  Throw the baby out with the bathwater!  We all know that's what you Progressives want, what your leftist heroes of the past did. THAT'S the "side of the spectrum" that has no concern for human life.

Not long ago I read an article that called for climate change deniers to be killed. That's the Progressive way, right? How many did Stalin and Mao, other leftists, murder only because they dared to speak out? Do the research on THAT and get back to me about "which spectrum" values human life more.

Elect a Leftist, or even a centrist like Sanders and you'd get very different results.

Sanders, a centrist? Bwwaaaaa!

The most extreme cases of political correctness are in the right, not the left

Did I spell "Bwwaaaa!" correctly above? That comes close to the most idiotic thing you've ever said, not to mention the biggest whopper.

Davy Crockett existed, the hat did not at the time. Also him and a few others were captured alive and executed.

Oops, your beloved Wiki says otherwise: Coonskin cap  I won't post the information, but I want you to read it with your own lyin' eyes.  Needless to say, the cap existed long before The Battle of the Alamo.

(I know a little bit about coons because my pop used to hunt them when I was just a little guy.  He must have started feeling guilty about it because later when I was a young man, he'd bring home abandoned raccoon kits and we'd raise them.  One used to love to ride on his shoulder while he drove around checking his leases.  Here's a short lesson in coon anatomy, just to lighten up this post a bit)

I see that you're choosing to believe the Billy Bob Thornton movie version instead of The Duke's. Fine by me, but it serves as proof you prefer to get your history from Hollywood movies instead of books.  Once again, from Wiki: Davy Crockett "All that is certain (my emphasis) about the fate of David Crockett is that he died fighting at the Alamo on the morning of March 6, 1836, at age 49."

Being a Texan and lover of history, I already knew that the Billy Bob movie version ending came from a Mexican officer's journal, a man named la Peña. Due to the fact that no other manuscript has ever been uncovered corroborating la Peña's account, it's not been accepted as anything close to being factual and most historical scholars think it a hoax. If you'll read the Wiki article, you'll see that Alamo survivors of the battle stated something altogether differently in regards to how Crockett died.

I bet you get your "facts" about climate change from An Inconvenient Truth, your "facts" about the Kennedy assassination from Oliver Stone's JFK and your "facts" about the Vietnam War from Apocalypse Now. Am I right or am I right?  Hooray for Hollywood, passing lies off as truth, glorifying the worst of our culture (and contributing to its decline), ridiculing any other opinions but their own...warping idiot's minds for a century!

Oh please, pretty please bring up Gasland and how hydraulic fracturing (fracking) is bad. I'll blow you out of the not-burning water with FACTS, Jack.   On second thought, never mind;  I'm sure you'll attempt to use "facts" that are anything but.  I've spent more than enough time on exposing you as it is. 

Anyway...you damyankees need to tend to your own history books, leave ours alone. Sure, we Texans like our historical heroic myths and sometimes our text books contain the wrong information, but sweep around your own door first.

Live off welfare like 90% of Southern Republicans

and this one:

70% of the 47% are elderly and Republicans in the conferacy.[sic] You old Southern Reps are the laziest and most ignorant leeches in the world.

I've done a LOT of reading about the meme that "Blue states support Red states". First of all, the 90% figure needs to be flushed down the toilet, just like many other of your "facts". The "Blue vs. Red" division needs to be stabbed in the heart, because it's not only more complicated than that, it's also a lie.

If you ever take the time to look at red/blue spots by voting demographics, you'll see that the U.S. is more "purple" than simply red or blue. Makes sense if you look at how the last several presidential elections went, but then again, if you'll look closer, you'll see that many states that voted for the Democrat presidential candidate have a majority of Republicans in their state houses as well as represented in Congress and vice versa in others. Others, not all.

So, saying a state is either red or blue depends upon how they voted in the last Presidential election is a case of mislabeling. Except for blue states such as NY and Mass., several others in the northeast and on the west coast, some so-called red states like Florida have flipped back and forth.

Then too, just like any other analysis of statistics, one must "drill down" and consider other numbers and variables. For instance, Texas is a "red state", right? Well, look at some of the largest population density regions, such as the Valley and Houston, etc. They're solidly "Blue" and other large Texas cities are "light Blue". Large urban centers vote Democrat, that's a fact. Consider New Orleans in Louisiana, Atlanta in Georgia, other huge cities in red states. They vote Democrat.  Again, that's a fact, look it up. 

A Pew study and poll showed Democrats were responsible for 60+% of the benefits taken.  I've seen other articles claim the figure is closer to 80% in some categories.   Consider the huge numbers of Democrats in those urban centers, it's obvious that it's not Southern Republicans taking the welfare, it's that they are supporting the Democrat voters - the "leeches" - in their states. 

I'm sure you'll try to come back with social security figures or how much each state gets in Federal dollars vs. what they pay back, etc., but that argument is often made by misleading statistics or over-simplifying them or not accounting that - for example - that many "red" states have more military bases (pork projects from past Democratic Representatives) and that "red" states like Florida and Arizona have a larger than average elderly population using their PAID FOR benefits like SSI and Medicare.   Add in Federal land in "red" states that have a big influx of federal dollars (many Western states)  and even that equation changes which would prove you even more wrong. 

The US has no gun control laws

You mean I can go buy a machine gun? Wow, I always thought I had to have an expensive Federal license, be investigated, pay a yearly fee, be subject to visits by the ATF to make sure I still have possession of the weapon and all that!

If that's the case, I want a Thompson (Tommy gun) , you 'n me can be just like Bonny and Clyde (I'll be Clyde, of course).  No, scratch that, I want a 50-caliber to go hunting with, we got some big jackrabbits here in Texas.  No, no, I want one of those Warthog 30mm Gatling guns to mount on top of my house so I can shoot the speeders as they whiz by.

Biggest lie you've told and that's saying' sumpthin'. Of COURSE we have gun control laws. Did you type that with a straight face or was it intended to be a lie, Mr. Goebbels?

Yeah, let's ban guns, bans worked so well during Prohibition and with our current drug laws. 

I hope you're the one who comes to take my few firearms away. Just be warned that I'll give you the ammunition first, very quickly...a little faster than the speed of sound, in fact. 

If you want to take away my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, then you're a traitor and need to have your citizenship terminated...with "extreme prejudice".

Bernie is a moderate centrist who flip flops between the center-left and center-right.

No, he's not a "moderate centrist". If he were, he'd be a middle-of-the-road Republican, a RINO or at best, a conservative Democrat (a rare bird, the numbers of which would rival those of the passenger pigeon.) He says he's a Democratic Socialist, just using a word like "Democratic"  trying to disguise his true affiliation - Communist.  He ran as an Independent to further disguise his true ideology.  He aligned himself with the Democrats only for relevancy...but that the Democrats allowed him to run on their ticket speaks volumes about THEIR true ideology.

(and let's get something else straight;  while "Progressive", "Socialist", "Communist" and "Marxist" DO all have different definitions, their desired end results are all exactly the same - a totalitarian regime.)

Granted, he struck a chord with the younger generation, but his supporters were mostly a thankfully small percentage of the newest voting generation, the narcissistic, self-absorbed whiners. Like you.

Taxes are absurdly low, we need real increases

No, they're not and no we don't. We need to cut spending. Anyone who has ever budgeted for a household or business could attest to that. It's only the leeches and "gimme" crowd that think that. Like you think.

The over 35 crowd have had everything handed to them on a silver platter

Yeah, those darn Boomers! I'm a Boomer, but I never had a silver platter or anything handed to me on one.  I DO know a few folks who fit that description, but that's true of any generation.

Add "Ageist" to your growing list of bigoted beliefs.

Seriously, sounds like your generation actually believed Harry Potter and that all the problems can be solved by a simple flick of the wand. Thank goodness it's not, because you pouting pusillanimous punks would be screaming "Avada Kedavra" at everyone with white hair or wrinkles. How 'bout instead of whining on message boards, you go actually DO something to change the world? Oh, I forget, that would require work and participation and actual interaction with others on a personal and REAL level, not moaning about it online or having to look up from your cell phones. Like you do.

There's a reason no one lives in no tax places like Wyoming and South Dakota.

From Wiki: Wyoming Population: 2015 (est) 586,107  I see, a half-million+ people is "no one". You think so few people live there because of no corporate tax or personal income tax and NOT because of the cold-as-hell winters? I'd say the fact that the U.S. govt. owns nearly half of Wyoming has something to do with it as well.

From Wiki: South Dakota Population 2015 (est) 858,469 Where exactly is the cut off that defines "no one"? According to you, it's not rural flight but because they're mostly Republican voting states and not nearly Socialist enough. Have I interpreted your insinuation correctly? Of course, both of those states are largely agricultural based without a lot of heavy industry, so they're not going to have a huge GDP OR population.

California has a surplus and a stable budget as a result of raising taxes on the rich.

Sorry, but this is from Breitbart, which I know you despise as a source, but they also post links to their information cited...just like Wikipedia, which you claim to be a reputable cite. (not saying it is or isn't, just that if you want us to accept Wiki, then you need to accept Breitbart or admit that you're the hypocrite most of the rest of us already realize.)

California Budget in Deficit as Silicon Valley Falters
From the site: "The bipartisan Legislative Analysts’ Office has announced that California’s 2015-16 personal income tax collection has fallen from a huge surplus to a $147 million deficit. The cause appears to be plummeting Silicon Valley capital gains and weakening tech employment."

Also, note the date of the article - Feb. 5th of this yr. YOUR assertion of "facts" was made on July 8th. So, what's your excuse? You had your head buried in the sand for five months, or didn't want to bring it up because it wouldn't fit your narrative? Personally, I think it's because you're a habitual liar. Using your reasoning on other matters, I'd have to say ALL Socialists are liars. To top that off, you went on with this:

Meanwhile states like Kansas and Louisiana which cut taxes on the rich dramatically are economic wasteland

Kansas "The Bureau of Economic Analysis estimates that the total GDP in 2008 was $122.7 billion, making it the United States's 32nd highest state by GDP." Hmmm. While it ranks in the bottom half of states in GDP, it's also a largely agricultural state and has also suffered from rural flight. It's also 34th in population, so being 32nd in GDP isn't all that bad with that considered.

The state is ranked #8 in both oil and gas production, but prices are down and that's certainly not helping the economics of that state. My own royalties have been horrible lately. Yep, a Texan who owns (part of) several gas wells...in Oklahoma, bless that brilliantly red state, so glad it's such a great neighbor! I wish OU wouldn't kick UT's butt so often in football, but I still love the state.

Louisiana 25th in population, 24th in GDP. Smack dab in the middle of all the states isn't exactly what I'd call an "economic wasteland".

Only a stupid person responds with ad hominum [sic] attacks rather then accept facts.

This one made me laugh...well "snicker", actually. You've done a fair amount of mud-slinging, against Republicans, Conservatives (and the two aren't mutually inclusive, you should know), Christians, southern states, etc. Pot, meet kettle.  You could call it "blow back" for years of abuse of Conservatives.  We now realize insults hurt you thin-skinned progressives.  You can dish it out, but you can't take it. 

Everyone pays for a service and that service provides it free of charge to everyone.

THIS one makes me shake my head and think "Did he really just say that?" If someone has to pay for a service, then how is it free? Honestly, do you really THINK before you type this stuff out? This is what I'd expect to find on a used wad of toilet paper, not coming from the brain of an "educated" "intellectual", self-admitted Socialist. Maybe what's on that TP is what you have for brains?

The minimum wage of a server is $2.15

Another "fact" that happens to be wrong: Tipped wage in the United States "The American federal government requires a wage of at least $2.13 per hour be paid to employees that receive at least $30 per month in tips. If wages and tips do not equal the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour during any pay period, the employer is required to increase cash wages to compensate. As of May 2012, the average hourly wage – including tips – for a restaurant employee in the United States that received tip income was $11.82."

Not off by much, only a couple of pennies, but that two cents represents the value of the "facts" you claim. I noticed you didn't bring up the compensation that's mandated by law.

Besides all that, it's always someone of YOUR generation who is a server or preparer who thinks it's fine to spit in someone's food, be it a poor tipper or someone of a different race or a cop or a soldier. Yep, you guys need to be rewarded for that, for sure....with a whack of a bat across the mouth, let you spit out a few teeth instead of phlegm on someone's burger.   Too violent?  OK, then...let's go around to any pool hall and empty the spittoons around all the domino tables, fill up a five gallon bucket and shove the spitter's head in it.  Do it a few times until they got the message that when you do something nasty as spitting in someone's food, then something nasty happens to the offender.

You don't want me to get started on what I'd do to taggers and graffitti "artists".

The Christian Taliban wants only the wealthy elite to go to college

What nonsense! "Christian Taliban" is an oxymoron. It's a pseudo hate phrase created by anti-Christian bigoted leftists and so-called "tolerant liberals". It's akin to saying "a carnivorous vegetarian" and is a sophomoric insult (Ironically, "sophomore" is thought to have derived from the Greek for "wise fool", another oxymoron, although in your case it's quite apt)

To state this clearer: There's no such thing. This. Doesn't. Exist.

(Disclaimer: Those aren't my words;  I saw them when I Googled the term, but liked them so much I decided to include them)

He's not the one who believes that a bearded sky fairy controls our lives and that fatal cancer in children is a sign that this sky fairy is good and we need to worship said monster.

While I certainly wouldn't argue against that some Christians are full of hate, IMHO they're really not Christians, not by deed or definition. Lumping them all together, however, is stereotyping and that in itself is a form of bigotry. While anecdotes and personal observations can't qualify as "facts", why is it the most hateful and unhinged people that I see posting in forums and message boards are atheists?

Honestly, why does a monument with the Ten Commandments on the courthouse lawn send you atheists into apoplectic fits?  Like it or not, they were a basis for American law and should be taken into historical significance if for no other reason.

Me? I'm an "optimistic agnostic", so I don't really have a dog in the fight except that some of my dearest friends are Christians and I won't stand for them to be slandered. They're all flawed humans, just like the rest of us (you included...especially you), but it is their QUEST for perfection, their attempt to walk in Jesus' footsteps that makes them Christians.  None I've ever known revel in others misfortunes and if they did, they wouldn't be Christians OR my friends.

While they might turn the other cheek if you insulted them, if I was there when you said it I'd snatch you up by your hair and try my best to break your nose. (and I'm fairly certain I could do it even though I bet I have four decades on you in age.) That wouldn't be warm rain falling on your face as you lay there stunned afterwards, either. Being pretty much of a heathen, I won't have to ask forgiveness from either you OR the "bearded sky fairy". I'll just need bail money, that's all. (that is, if you press charges, pretty much what wussies do after they get their butts kicked)

82% of the 47% are either old or are poor people in the red southern states that Trump won by massive margins, facts can't be disputed

There's not even any need to attempt to rebut this because, like most of your "facts", you pulled this out of your anal orifice. I not only disputed your "facts" up above, I destroyed them.

MSNBC is for center-right moderate conservatives like Obama or Hillary.

I'm pretty sure Socialists and sane people don't use the same dictionary and I'm not sure we even live on the same planet.  Good grief. Apparently according to you anyone who is a fraction of an inch to the right of Mao is "center-right".

The Obama economy is far better than either Bush economy or the Reagan economy this time in their terms

Uh, not exactly true- the charts I saw showed "Obama's economy" to be below Reagan's and only slightly better than Bush's at the same point in time.  Other than public confidence in the Administration, the Federal Reserve has much more impact.   Some presidential policies can take years before seeing an effect and good or bad, the person in the Oval Office down the road gets credit...or the blame.

Presidents, just like football coaches, can make a blunder and lose the game, or call a great play and win. Like a coach's ball team, though, there are more players involved in the game, ditto for those in the game of politics. Just like a coach, a President often gets the blame for things out of his control and often takes the credit for things others did.

You might want to take a look at the majorities in the House of Representatives during both good and bad economic times. They are, after all, the branch with the authority to initiate tax increases or spending proposals. It might surprise you (IOW, not fit your narrative) and at the very least it would verify there's more than enough blame to go around.

The top tax rate in the 1950's was 90%. If only we could have real politicians advocating reasonable rates like that

Fewer millionaires and billionaires back then, too. I hope a LOT of Democrat politicians (and a goodly number of Republicans) take up that cause. It would be lovely to watch their political careers come to a screeching halt. They'd self-term limit.

...a polygraph .... is so ineffective and prone to error that it isn't admissible in court.

Polygraph tests are admissible in certain states and in federal court at the discretion of the trial judge. States like California, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and Florida allow the tests if everyone stipulates to their use and agrees to admit the results into evidence.

Michigan voters elected and re-elected a dictator that intentionally poisoned an entire city.

Definition of a dictator: a ruler who wields absolute authority.  If Snyder was a dictator, then why did he even need to run for office?  Another one of your totally absurd statements.

From Wiki: Flint water crisis "Governor Snyder issued an apology to citizens and promised to fix the problem, and then sent $28 million to Flint for supplies, medical care and infrastructure upgrades, and later budgeted an additional $30 million to Flint that will give water bill credits of 65% for residents and 20% for businesses. Another $165 million for lead pipe replacements and water bill reimbursements was approved by Governor Snyder on June 29, 2016."

I'd like to know how he planned to poison only those voters who voted against him and not the ones who did.  I guess if he was a dictator like your idol Stalin, killing millions in order to weed out the few who opposed him would be the thing to do.

Honestly, your hyperbole is ludicrous.  I've told you a hundred million billion times to not exaggerate!

This being the south, they will most likely only ask the welfare office about black winners while they will give white winners the money no questions asked.

"Most likely". I see what you did there, added an "out" in opinion form. There's no rebuttal to that, but neither is there any truth. It's just a hateful, bigoted thing to say...but why am I not surprised since it comes from you? All the hate you aim towards others is merely projection on your part. It's easy to see you're a self-loathing, white-guilt infested bigoted liar...and a Commie wannabe, to boot.  You think that if America is transformed into your Socialist dream world, YOU'LL be one of the privileged few, ruling the plebes and instead of having a dacha on the Black Sea like the Soviet elite, yours will be in the Catskills. 

So, I'd say "Shame on you!" for lying, but I hate that phrase, it's something the Democrats love to fling at Republicans. You really need to slink on out of here, have Todd delete your account because I HAVE just shamed you in front of God (or that "bearded sky fairy", whichever you prefer) and everyone. I've exposed you for the liar you are.  We'll see now if you apologize for your lies or continue on with them.

There's one more Progressive lie that needs to be addressed:  It's not that Conservatives dislike higher education, nothing could be farther from the truth, but rather that Progressives have disdain for blue collar workers, the ones who actually produce goods and build things by the sweat of their brows. Well, those workers who are Conservative, anyway.
I'm sorry that you have so much student loan debt, but you could have paid ME to teach you, giving me just 40 grand out of the 80 you owe and got twice the education.  Don't believe me?  Look how I schooled you with this post!

Then again, Judge Smails would have given you some FREE advice:

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Too long to addres everything but i will point out three things

Davy Crockett- I raise the white flag. That was an overstepping beyond what i know. 

Christian Taliban - http://www.wral.com/proposal-supports-state-religion-in-north-carolina/12296876/

No one lives in Wyoming or South Dakota - I forgot what exactly i was replying to but i wasn't in any way trying to demean these states like you're proposing. I'll look and see the context for why i said it.

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Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 6, 2016

Too long to addres everything but i will point out three things

Davy Crockett- I raise the white flag. That was an overstepping beyond what i know. 

Christian Taliban - http://www.wral.com/proposal-supports-state-religion-in-north-carolina/12296876/

No one lives in Wyoming or South Dakota - I forgot what exactly i was replying to but i wasn't in any way trying to demean these states like you're proposing. I'll look and see the context for why i said it.

"That was an overstepping beyond what i know."

That pretty much describes EVERYTHING you opine upon.  The trouble with your posts is that you give an opinion and expect everyone to support it as fact...and the "facts " you pull out of thin air (or out of that smelly place I mentioned in my "too long" post) are anything but facts. 

Typical of your stereotyping, you take ONE proposal in ONE state and ascribe it to every other state..well, "red" states, anyway.   It's easy to see your "context".

Face it, you were wrong on every point I brought up, esp. in regards to your "facts".

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Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 6, 2016

Yes, I am, aren't I? Embarassed

I only wish I had been born rich instead of handsome. Wink

I'm also exceedingly humble. ROFL

 Great post!

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Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 6, 2016

Than grow up you little SOB!

Hey genius...Its "then" not "than".  Yea you're an engineer...Sure.  LOL

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Face it Kingofearth...Mike schooled you.  Boxing

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Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 7, 2016

Face it Kingofearth...Mike schooled you.  Boxing

Mike is the king of real research.

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Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 26, 2016

Went to my class reunion a couple weeks ago, many of the people there I have not seen since the 70's.

The hot topic was not politics, but how the world has changed , and how our kids are growing up .

My son was 2 when Islamic Terrorists flew planes into the world trade center, this is his world to adapt to .

He will never know what was like going to an airport, concert or Hockey game without being searched and scrutinized.

He is living with technology we never dreamed was possible.

Back in our day, the big argument was who's cuter, David Gilmour or Roger Taylor, now everything is an argument.

This Country has gone insane with political correctness, if you disagree, you get a label and depending on the topic, you could be Racist, bigot, hater, homophobe etc.

In our day we watched Little house on the Prairie, the Waltons or a family themed comedy/music show.

Now the TV is filled with reality shows, people in constant conflict, or people living lives that are not even close to real.

Survival shows top the lists.

I guess it doesn't matter who is elected, I was taught to survive long before these shows popped up.

I not only know how to grow food, I hunt, fish and can find food in the forest.

For my son's sake, for the world he has to grow up in, I want a leader who is willing to say and do the things we need, to keep us just a little safer.

Some things you can't control, but we need a leader who can make it harder for those who mean to harm us.

Trump has my vote. US Flag

Even in the past 10 years, the change is unreal. I used to love the Big Brother tv show and it had a diversity  of people and ages. I stopped watching it since it became all young jerks with no moral values.

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Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 7, 2016

Mike is the king of real research.

Thanks, Artist!

Did you know that 83.2% of all leftists are pedophiles?  That number goes up to 97.9% when they're leftists of college age who live in New York state.

I don't have a link for that, but I'm sure I can find some dicey website that has those figures and passes them off as factual.

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Quote: Originally posted by emilyg on Aug 6, 2016

Excellent post.  Thank you humble man.

Thumbs Up

Thanks, Emily! 

Of course, it's better to be a humble man than a knuckle dragging Neanderthal like the leftists think Conservative men are, huh?

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Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 7, 2016

Face it Kingofearth...Mike schooled you.  Boxing

Well, it took a few hours to dig through KingofDerp's posts, then another couple of hours to look up actual statistics and another hour or so and a few re-writes to polish off my rebuttal, but it's always fulfilling to assist a special needs child.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 7, 2016

Thanks, Artist!

Did you know that 83.2% of all leftists are pedophiles?  That number goes up to 97.9% when they're leftists of college age who live in New York state.

I don't have a link for that, but I'm sure I can find some dicey website that has those figures and passes them off as factual.

Lol lol

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Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 7, 2016

Well, it took a few hours to dig through KingofDerp's posts, then another couple of hours to look up actual statistics and another hour or so and a few re-writes to polish off my rebuttal, but it's always fulfilling to assist a special needs child.

Dang, Mike, that was impressive.

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Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 6, 2016

No, KingofDerp, facts aren't "borderline insanity" but someone would have to be crazy to believe the ones you've spewed forth.

You challenged:  Then do it, show us something this (that is?)  contradictory or factually incorrect.

I went through your posts and picked out your "greatest hits" to focus upon.  "They didn't have a good beat, Dick, and were hard to dance to!"  Sorry, showing my age.  I think they're in reverse order for the most part, most recent to earliest, although there are a few I combined under the same topic. 

Who cares? They're all a crock, anyway.

I want to preface my rebuttal with how I want to point out I have tried to avoid using the term "Liberal", especially as a pejorative and have instead opted for "Progressive".  Classical liberalism makes up a large part of my own personal political beliefs.

The next several come from the same vomitus in a single post.

Conservatives and Republicans oppose the minimum wage

No, they don't.  A Pew research poll from a few years back said half of Republicans support a raise in min. wage.  I've since seen other more recent polls that show a majority of Republicans favor an increase,  but not to the levels the Democrats propose.

As has been explained to you in here, min. wage was always intended to be a starting wage for people entering the work force, not a perpetual one. I've read that, in McDonalds case, it wouldn't raise the price of a burger by much. That's probably true in some other areas, too, but I'd also bet it will reduce the numbers of those entry level employees hired. McD's is already working on automation and I bet other businesses will follow suit because labor costs are usually 70% of any business's overhead. Sure, raise it if you must, but it HAS to be gradual or the wage hike will have some adverse repercussions, a ripple effect which would turn into a tidal wave and wreak havoc with our economy. 

That's one of the most fundamental differences between Progressives and Conservatives; a Conservative says "Wait a minute, let's not be too hasty, let's think about it, discuss it before doing anything." Progressives are like spoiled children, wanting something not just NOW, but yesterday and they hold their breath and stomp their widdle feet until the adults (Conservatives) give in.

support homophobia

Sure, you have some religious types who were anti-gay marriage, dislike the gay "lifestyle", but at least they're steadfast in their opposition while many Democrats only switched when they saw which way the political wind was blowing. Me? I'm a conservative small L libertarian and I had no objection other than semantics. Marriage has always been defined as a religious union between a man and a woman. (and "gay" meant happy) On the civil rights side, I saw nothing wrong with civil unions, but my libertarian bent makes me chafe that govt. has ANYTHING to do with marriage to begin with.

support women dying from illegal abortions etc etc, it's pretty clear which side of the spectrum has concern for human life

Ah, the "coat hanger" argument. Doesn't fly, Mommie Dearest. I want to say "most", but instead will say "many" conservatives would allow for abortion in cases of rape, incest and life of the mother. "Back alley abortions" account for only 200 at most each year, as opposed to the nearly million legal abortions. It's estimated that there have been well over 50 million abortions since Roe v. Wade. That's a staggering number, but what I find sickening is how abortion is celebrated as a woman's right to choose, yet nothing is mentioned about the unborn's right to life, their civil rights being terminated along with the pregnancy. Of course, since the baby is "only a lump of tissue", then they have no rights, right?

All that said, it's the law but there's also nothing illegal about people being against the practice. (unless the only opinion that counts is yours and those like-minded, huh?) There is a need for regulation, though, because it is a medical procedure, after all.  Even a transgender person is required to have counseling before surgery.
"Up to the point of viability!" is the cry of abortion supporters, a reluctant sop to those who would reasonably restrict abortion to before the last trimester.  Why stop there, why not do "post-birth" abortions? I mean...a baby can't live w/out care from the mother (and/or father) for several years after being born. Good grief, I know teenagers and grown men who couldn't survive on their own for more than a week w/out someone taking care of them.

No, let's extend that time to at least a year after birth. That way you Progressives can get rid of the mentally challenged, the crippled, the wrong sex, the ones that are unattractive...just name the defect, and terminate it and the "host" that carries it. A financial burden?  Throw it in the trash. Ruin your figure?  Abort the "lump".  Simply can't be bothered?  Throw the baby out with the bathwater!  We all know that's what you Progressives want, what your leftist heroes of the past did. THAT'S the "side of the spectrum" that has no concern for human life.

Not long ago I read an article that called for climate change deniers to be killed. That's the Progressive way, right? How many did Stalin and Mao, other leftists, murder only because they dared to speak out? Do the research on THAT and get back to me about "which spectrum" values human life more.

Elect a Leftist, or even a centrist like Sanders and you'd get very different results.

Sanders, a centrist? Bwwaaaaa!

The most extreme cases of political correctness are in the right, not the left

Did I spell "Bwwaaaa!" correctly above? That comes close to the most idiotic thing you've ever said, not to mention the biggest whopper.

Davy Crockett existed, the hat did not at the time. Also him and a few others were captured alive and executed.

Oops, your beloved Wiki says otherwise: Coonskin cap  I won't post the information, but I want you to read it with your own lyin' eyes.  Needless to say, the cap existed long before The Battle of the Alamo.

(I know a little bit about coons because my pop used to hunt them when I was just a little guy.  He must have started feeling guilty about it because later when I was a young man, he'd bring home abandoned raccoon kits and we'd raise them.  One used to love to ride on his shoulder while he drove around checking his leases.  Here's a short lesson in coon anatomy, just to lighten up this post a bit)

I see that you're choosing to believe the Billy Bob Thornton movie version instead of The Duke's. Fine by me, but it serves as proof you prefer to get your history from Hollywood movies instead of books.  Once again, from Wiki: Davy Crockett "All that is certain (my emphasis) about the fate of David Crockett is that he died fighting at the Alamo on the morning of March 6, 1836, at age 49."

Being a Texan and lover of history, I already knew that the Billy Bob movie version ending came from a Mexican officer's journal, a man named la Peña. Due to the fact that no other manuscript has ever been uncovered corroborating la Peña's account, it's not been accepted as anything close to being factual and most historical scholars think it a hoax. If you'll read the Wiki article, you'll see that Alamo survivors of the battle stated something altogether differently in regards to how Crockett died.

I bet you get your "facts" about climate change from An Inconvenient Truth, your "facts" about the Kennedy assassination from Oliver Stone's JFK and your "facts" about the Vietnam War from Apocalypse Now. Am I right or am I right?  Hooray for Hollywood, passing lies off as truth, glorifying the worst of our culture (and contributing to its decline), ridiculing any other opinions but their own...warping idiot's minds for a century!

Oh please, pretty please bring up Gasland and how hydraulic fracturing (fracking) is bad. I'll blow you out of the not-burning water with FACTS, Jack.   On second thought, never mind;  I'm sure you'll attempt to use "facts" that are anything but.  I've spent more than enough time on exposing you as it is. 

Anyway...you damyankees need to tend to your own history books, leave ours alone. Sure, we Texans like our historical heroic myths and sometimes our text books contain the wrong information, but sweep around your own door first.

Live off welfare like 90% of Southern Republicans

and this one:

70% of the 47% are elderly and Republicans in the conferacy.[sic] You old Southern Reps are the laziest and most ignorant leeches in the world.

I've done a LOT of reading about the meme that "Blue states support Red states". First of all, the 90% figure needs to be flushed down the toilet, just like many other of your "facts". The "Blue vs. Red" division needs to be stabbed in the heart, because it's not only more complicated than that, it's also a lie.

If you ever take the time to look at red/blue spots by voting demographics, you'll see that the U.S. is more "purple" than simply red or blue. Makes sense if you look at how the last several presidential elections went, but then again, if you'll look closer, you'll see that many states that voted for the Democrat presidential candidate have a majority of Republicans in their state houses as well as represented in Congress and vice versa in others. Others, not all.

So, saying a state is either red or blue depends upon how they voted in the last Presidential election is a case of mislabeling. Except for blue states such as NY and Mass., several others in the northeast and on the west coast, some so-called red states like Florida have flipped back and forth.

Then too, just like any other analysis of statistics, one must "drill down" and consider other numbers and variables. For instance, Texas is a "red state", right? Well, look at some of the largest population density regions, such as the Valley and Houston, etc. They're solidly "Blue" and other large Texas cities are "light Blue". Large urban centers vote Democrat, that's a fact. Consider New Orleans in Louisiana, Atlanta in Georgia, other huge cities in red states. They vote Democrat.  Again, that's a fact, look it up. 

A Pew study and poll showed Democrats were responsible for 60+% of the benefits taken.  I've seen other articles claim the figure is closer to 80% in some categories.   Consider the huge numbers of Democrats in those urban centers, it's obvious that it's not Southern Republicans taking the welfare, it's that they are supporting the Democrat voters - the "leeches" - in their states. 

I'm sure you'll try to come back with social security figures or how much each state gets in Federal dollars vs. what they pay back, etc., but that argument is often made by misleading statistics or over-simplifying them or not accounting that - for example - that many "red" states have more military bases (pork projects from past Democratic Representatives) and that "red" states like Florida and Arizona have a larger than average elderly population using their PAID FOR benefits like SSI and Medicare.   Add in Federal land in "red" states that have a big influx of federal dollars (many Western states)  and even that equation changes which would prove you even more wrong. 

The US has no gun control laws

You mean I can go buy a machine gun? Wow, I always thought I had to have an expensive Federal license, be investigated, pay a yearly fee, be subject to visits by the ATF to make sure I still have possession of the weapon and all that!

If that's the case, I want a Thompson (Tommy gun) , you 'n me can be just like Bonny and Clyde (I'll be Clyde, of course).  No, scratch that, I want a 50-caliber to go hunting with, we got some big jackrabbits here in Texas.  No, no, I want one of those Warthog 30mm Gatling guns to mount on top of my house so I can shoot the speeders as they whiz by.

Biggest lie you've told and that's saying' sumpthin'. Of COURSE we have gun control laws. Did you type that with a straight face or was it intended to be a lie, Mr. Goebbels?

Yeah, let's ban guns, bans worked so well during Prohibition and with our current drug laws. 

I hope you're the one who comes to take my few firearms away. Just be warned that I'll give you the ammunition first, very quickly...a little faster than the speed of sound, in fact. 

If you want to take away my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, then you're a traitor and need to have your citizenship terminated...with "extreme prejudice".

Bernie is a moderate centrist who flip flops between the center-left and center-right.

No, he's not a "moderate centrist". If he were, he'd be a middle-of-the-road Republican, a RINO or at best, a conservative Democrat (a rare bird, the numbers of which would rival those of the passenger pigeon.) He says he's a Democratic Socialist, just using a word like "Democratic"  trying to disguise his true affiliation - Communist.  He ran as an Independent to further disguise his true ideology.  He aligned himself with the Democrats only for relevancy...but that the Democrats allowed him to run on their ticket speaks volumes about THEIR true ideology.

(and let's get something else straight;  while "Progressive", "Socialist", "Communist" and "Marxist" DO all have different definitions, their desired end results are all exactly the same - a totalitarian regime.)

Granted, he struck a chord with the younger generation, but his supporters were mostly a thankfully small percentage of the newest voting generation, the narcissistic, self-absorbed whiners. Like you.

Taxes are absurdly low, we need real increases

No, they're not and no we don't. We need to cut spending. Anyone who has ever budgeted for a household or business could attest to that. It's only the leeches and "gimme" crowd that think that. Like you think.

The over 35 crowd have had everything handed to them on a silver platter

Yeah, those darn Boomers! I'm a Boomer, but I never had a silver platter or anything handed to me on one.  I DO know a few folks who fit that description, but that's true of any generation.

Add "Ageist" to your growing list of bigoted beliefs.

Seriously, sounds like your generation actually believed Harry Potter and that all the problems can be solved by a simple flick of the wand. Thank goodness it's not, because you pouting pusillanimous punks would be screaming "Avada Kedavra" at everyone with white hair or wrinkles. How 'bout instead of whining on message boards, you go actually DO something to change the world? Oh, I forget, that would require work and participation and actual interaction with others on a personal and REAL level, not moaning about it online or having to look up from your cell phones. Like you do.

There's a reason no one lives in no tax places like Wyoming and South Dakota.

From Wiki: Wyoming Population: 2015 (est) 586,107  I see, a half-million+ people is "no one". You think so few people live there because of no corporate tax or personal income tax and NOT because of the cold-as-hell winters? I'd say the fact that the U.S. govt. owns nearly half of Wyoming has something to do with it as well.

From Wiki: South Dakota Population 2015 (est) 858,469 Where exactly is the cut off that defines "no one"? According to you, it's not rural flight but because they're mostly Republican voting states and not nearly Socialist enough. Have I interpreted your insinuation correctly? Of course, both of those states are largely agricultural based without a lot of heavy industry, so they're not going to have a huge GDP OR population.

California has a surplus and a stable budget as a result of raising taxes on the rich.

Sorry, but this is from Breitbart, which I know you despise as a source, but they also post links to their information cited...just like Wikipedia, which you claim to be a reputable cite. (not saying it is or isn't, just that if you want us to accept Wiki, then you need to accept Breitbart or admit that you're the hypocrite most of the rest of us already realize.)

California Budget in Deficit as Silicon Valley Falters
From the site: "The bipartisan Legislative Analysts’ Office has announced that California’s 2015-16 personal income tax collection has fallen from a huge surplus to a $147 million deficit. The cause appears to be plummeting Silicon Valley capital gains and weakening tech employment."

Also, note the date of the article - Feb. 5th of this yr. YOUR assertion of "facts" was made on July 8th. So, what's your excuse? You had your head buried in the sand for five months, or didn't want to bring it up because it wouldn't fit your narrative? Personally, I think it's because you're a habitual liar. Using your reasoning on other matters, I'd have to say ALL Socialists are liars. To top that off, you went on with this:

Meanwhile states like Kansas and Louisiana which cut taxes on the rich dramatically are economic wasteland

Kansas "The Bureau of Economic Analysis estimates that the total GDP in 2008 was $122.7 billion, making it the United States's 32nd highest state by GDP." Hmmm. While it ranks in the bottom half of states in GDP, it's also a largely agricultural state and has also suffered from rural flight. It's also 34th in population, so being 32nd in GDP isn't all that bad with that considered.

The state is ranked #8 in both oil and gas production, but prices are down and that's certainly not helping the economics of that state. My own royalties have been horrible lately. Yep, a Texan who owns (part of) several gas wells...in Oklahoma, bless that brilliantly red state, so glad it's such a great neighbor! I wish OU wouldn't kick UT's butt so often in football, but I still love the state.

Louisiana 25th in population, 24th in GDP. Smack dab in the middle of all the states isn't exactly what I'd call an "economic wasteland".

Only a stupid person responds with ad hominum [sic] attacks rather then accept facts.

This one made me laugh...well "snicker", actually. You've done a fair amount of mud-slinging, against Republicans, Conservatives (and the two aren't mutually inclusive, you should know), Christians, southern states, etc. Pot, meet kettle.  You could call it "blow back" for years of abuse of Conservatives.  We now realize insults hurt you thin-skinned progressives.  You can dish it out, but you can't take it. 

Everyone pays for a service and that service provides it free of charge to everyone.

THIS one makes me shake my head and think "Did he really just say that?" If someone has to pay for a service, then how is it free? Honestly, do you really THINK before you type this stuff out? This is what I'd expect to find on a used wad of toilet paper, not coming from the brain of an "educated" "intellectual", self-admitted Socialist. Maybe what's on that TP is what you have for brains?

The minimum wage of a server is $2.15

Another "fact" that happens to be wrong: Tipped wage in the United States "The American federal government requires a wage of at least $2.13 per hour be paid to employees that receive at least $30 per month in tips. If wages and tips do not equal the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour during any pay period, the employer is required to increase cash wages to compensate. As of May 2012, the average hourly wage – including tips – for a restaurant employee in the United States that received tip income was $11.82."

Not off by much, only a couple of pennies, but that two cents represents the value of the "facts" you claim. I noticed you didn't bring up the compensation that's mandated by law.

Besides all that, it's always someone of YOUR generation who is a server or preparer who thinks it's fine to spit in someone's food, be it a poor tipper or someone of a different race or a cop or a soldier. Yep, you guys need to be rewarded for that, for sure....with a whack of a bat across the mouth, let you spit out a few teeth instead of phlegm on someone's burger.   Too violent?  OK, then...let's go around to any pool hall and empty the spittoons around all the domino tables, fill up a five gallon bucket and shove the spitter's head in it.  Do it a few times until they got the message that when you do something nasty as spitting in someone's food, then something nasty happens to the offender.

You don't want me to get started on what I'd do to taggers and graffitti "artists".

The Christian Taliban wants only the wealthy elite to go to college

What nonsense! "Christian Taliban" is an oxymoron. It's a pseudo hate phrase created by anti-Christian bigoted leftists and so-called "tolerant liberals". It's akin to saying "a carnivorous vegetarian" and is a sophomoric insult (Ironically, "sophomore" is thought to have derived from the Greek for "wise fool", another oxymoron, although in your case it's quite apt)

To state this clearer: There's no such thing. This. Doesn't. Exist.

(Disclaimer: Those aren't my words;  I saw them when I Googled the term, but liked them so much I decided to include them)

He's not the one who believes that a bearded sky fairy controls our lives and that fatal cancer in children is a sign that this sky fairy is good and we need to worship said monster.

While I certainly wouldn't argue against that some Christians are full of hate, IMHO they're really not Christians, not by deed or definition. Lumping them all together, however, is stereotyping and that in itself is a form of bigotry. While anecdotes and personal observations can't qualify as "facts", why is it the most hateful and unhinged people that I see posting in forums and message boards are atheists?

Honestly, why does a monument with the Ten Commandments on the courthouse lawn send you atheists into apoplectic fits?  Like it or not, they were a basis for American law and should be taken into historical significance if for no other reason.

Me? I'm an "optimistic agnostic", so I don't really have a dog in the fight except that some of my dearest friends are Christians and I won't stand for them to be slandered. They're all flawed humans, just like the rest of us (you included...especially you), but it is their QUEST for perfection, their attempt to walk in Jesus' footsteps that makes them Christians.  None I've ever known revel in others misfortunes and if they did, they wouldn't be Christians OR my friends.

While they might turn the other cheek if you insulted them, if I was there when you said it I'd snatch you up by your hair and try my best to break your nose. (and I'm fairly certain I could do it even though I bet I have four decades on you in age.) That wouldn't be warm rain falling on your face as you lay there stunned afterwards, either. Being pretty much of a heathen, I won't have to ask forgiveness from either you OR the "bearded sky fairy". I'll just need bail money, that's all. (that is, if you press charges, pretty much what wussies do after they get their butts kicked)

82% of the 47% are either old or are poor people in the red southern states that Trump won by massive margins, facts can't be disputed

There's not even any need to attempt to rebut this because, like most of your "facts", you pulled this out of your anal orifice. I not only disputed your "facts" up above, I destroyed them.

MSNBC is for center-right moderate conservatives like Obama or Hillary.

I'm pretty sure Socialists and sane people don't use the same dictionary and I'm not sure we even live on the same planet.  Good grief. Apparently according to you anyone who is a fraction of an inch to the right of Mao is "center-right".

The Obama economy is far better than either Bush economy or the Reagan economy this time in their terms

Uh, not exactly true- the charts I saw showed "Obama's economy" to be below Reagan's and only slightly better than Bush's at the same point in time.  Other than public confidence in the Administration, the Federal Reserve has much more impact.   Some presidential policies can take years before seeing an effect and good or bad, the person in the Oval Office down the road gets credit...or the blame.

Presidents, just like football coaches, can make a blunder and lose the game, or call a great play and win. Like a coach's ball team, though, there are more players involved in the game, ditto for those in the game of politics. Just like a coach, a President often gets the blame for things out of his control and often takes the credit for things others did.

You might want to take a look at the majorities in the House of Representatives during both good and bad economic times. They are, after all, the branch with the authority to initiate tax increases or spending proposals. It might surprise you (IOW, not fit your narrative) and at the very least it would verify there's more than enough blame to go around.

The top tax rate in the 1950's was 90%. If only we could have real politicians advocating reasonable rates like that

Fewer millionaires and billionaires back then, too. I hope a LOT of Democrat politicians (and a goodly number of Republicans) take up that cause. It would be lovely to watch their political careers come to a screeching halt. They'd self-term limit.

...a polygraph .... is so ineffective and prone to error that it isn't admissible in court.

Polygraph tests are admissible in certain states and in federal court at the discretion of the trial judge. States like California, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and Florida allow the tests if everyone stipulates to their use and agrees to admit the results into evidence.

Michigan voters elected and re-elected a dictator that intentionally poisoned an entire city.

Definition of a dictator: a ruler who wields absolute authority.  If Snyder was a dictator, then why did he even need to run for office?  Another one of your totally absurd statements.

From Wiki: Flint water crisis "Governor Snyder issued an apology to citizens and promised to fix the problem, and then sent $28 million to Flint for supplies, medical care and infrastructure upgrades, and later budgeted an additional $30 million to Flint that will give water bill credits of 65% for residents and 20% for businesses. Another $165 million for lead pipe replacements and water bill reimbursements was approved by Governor Snyder on June 29, 2016."

I'd like to know how he planned to poison only those voters who voted against him and not the ones who did.  I guess if he was a dictator like your idol Stalin, killing millions in order to weed out the few who opposed him would be the thing to do.

Honestly, your hyperbole is ludicrous.  I've told you a hundred million billion times to not exaggerate!

This being the south, they will most likely only ask the welfare office about black winners while they will give white winners the money no questions asked.

"Most likely". I see what you did there, added an "out" in opinion form. There's no rebuttal to that, but neither is there any truth. It's just a hateful, bigoted thing to say...but why am I not surprised since it comes from you? All the hate you aim towards others is merely projection on your part. It's easy to see you're a self-loathing, white-guilt infested bigoted liar...and a Commie wannabe, to boot.  You think that if America is transformed into your Socialist dream world, YOU'LL be one of the privileged few, ruling the plebes and instead of having a dacha on the Black Sea like the Soviet elite, yours will be in the Catskills. 

So, I'd say "Shame on you!" for lying, but I hate that phrase, it's something the Democrats love to fling at Republicans. You really need to slink on out of here, have Todd delete your account because I HAVE just shamed you in front of God (or that "bearded sky fairy", whichever you prefer) and everyone. I've exposed you for the liar you are.  We'll see now if you apologize for your lies or continue on with them.

There's one more Progressive lie that needs to be addressed:  It's not that Conservatives dislike higher education, nothing could be farther from the truth, but rather that Progressives have disdain for blue collar workers, the ones who actually produce goods and build things by the sweat of their brows. Well, those workers who are Conservative, anyway.
I'm sorry that you have so much student loan debt, but you could have paid ME to teach you, giving me just 40 grand out of the 80 you owe and got twice the education.  Don't believe me?  Look how I schooled you with this post!

Then again, Judge Smails would have given you some FREE advice:

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Awesome post!

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Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 6, 2016

No, KingofDerp, facts aren't "borderline insanity" but someone would have to be crazy to believe the ones you've spewed forth.

You challenged:  Then do it, show us something this (that is?)  contradictory or factually incorrect.

I went through your posts and picked out your "greatest hits" to focus upon.  "They didn't have a good beat, Dick, and were hard to dance to!"  Sorry, showing my age.  I think they're in reverse order for the most part, most recent to earliest, although there are a few I combined under the same topic. 

Who cares? They're all a crock, anyway.

I want to preface my rebuttal with how I want to point out I have tried to avoid using the term "Liberal", especially as a pejorative and have instead opted for "Progressive".  Classical liberalism makes up a large part of my own personal political beliefs.

The next several come from the same vomitus in a single post.

Conservatives and Republicans oppose the minimum wage

No, they don't.  A Pew research poll from a few years back said half of Republicans support a raise in min. wage.  I've since seen other more recent polls that show a majority of Republicans favor an increase,  but not to the levels the Democrats propose.

As has been explained to you in here, min. wage was always intended to be a starting wage for people entering the work force, not a perpetual one. I've read that, in McDonalds case, it wouldn't raise the price of a burger by much. That's probably true in some other areas, too, but I'd also bet it will reduce the numbers of those entry level employees hired. McD's is already working on automation and I bet other businesses will follow suit because labor costs are usually 70% of any business's overhead. Sure, raise it if you must, but it HAS to be gradual or the wage hike will have some adverse repercussions, a ripple effect which would turn into a tidal wave and wreak havoc with our economy. 

That's one of the most fundamental differences between Progressives and Conservatives; a Conservative says "Wait a minute, let's not be too hasty, let's think about it, discuss it before doing anything." Progressives are like spoiled children, wanting something not just NOW, but yesterday and they hold their breath and stomp their widdle feet until the adults (Conservatives) give in.

support homophobia

Sure, you have some religious types who were anti-gay marriage, dislike the gay "lifestyle", but at least they're steadfast in their opposition while many Democrats only switched when they saw which way the political wind was blowing. Me? I'm a conservative small L libertarian and I had no objection other than semantics. Marriage has always been defined as a religious union between a man and a woman. (and "gay" meant happy) On the civil rights side, I saw nothing wrong with civil unions, but my libertarian bent makes me chafe that govt. has ANYTHING to do with marriage to begin with.

support women dying from illegal abortions etc etc, it's pretty clear which side of the spectrum has concern for human life

Ah, the "coat hanger" argument. Doesn't fly, Mommie Dearest. I want to say "most", but instead will say "many" conservatives would allow for abortion in cases of rape, incest and life of the mother. "Back alley abortions" account for only 200 at most each year, as opposed to the nearly million legal abortions. It's estimated that there have been well over 50 million abortions since Roe v. Wade. That's a staggering number, but what I find sickening is how abortion is celebrated as a woman's right to choose, yet nothing is mentioned about the unborn's right to life, their civil rights being terminated along with the pregnancy. Of course, since the baby is "only a lump of tissue", then they have no rights, right?

All that said, it's the law but there's also nothing illegal about people being against the practice. (unless the only opinion that counts is yours and those like-minded, huh?) There is a need for regulation, though, because it is a medical procedure, after all.  Even a transgender person is required to have counseling before surgery.
"Up to the point of viability!" is the cry of abortion supporters, a reluctant sop to those who would reasonably restrict abortion to before the last trimester.  Why stop there, why not do "post-birth" abortions? I mean...a baby can't live w/out care from the mother (and/or father) for several years after being born. Good grief, I know teenagers and grown men who couldn't survive on their own for more than a week w/out someone taking care of them.

No, let's extend that time to at least a year after birth. That way you Progressives can get rid of the mentally challenged, the crippled, the wrong sex, the ones that are unattractive...just name the defect, and terminate it and the "host" that carries it. A financial burden?  Throw it in the trash. Ruin your figure?  Abort the "lump".  Simply can't be bothered?  Throw the baby out with the bathwater!  We all know that's what you Progressives want, what your leftist heroes of the past did. THAT'S the "side of the spectrum" that has no concern for human life.

Not long ago I read an article that called for climate change deniers to be killed. That's the Progressive way, right? How many did Stalin and Mao, other leftists, murder only because they dared to speak out? Do the research on THAT and get back to me about "which spectrum" values human life more.

Elect a Leftist, or even a centrist like Sanders and you'd get very different results.

Sanders, a centrist? Bwwaaaaa!

The most extreme cases of political correctness are in the right, not the left

Did I spell "Bwwaaaa!" correctly above? That comes close to the most idiotic thing you've ever said, not to mention the biggest whopper.

Davy Crockett existed, the hat did not at the time. Also him and a few others were captured alive and executed.

Oops, your beloved Wiki says otherwise: Coonskin cap  I won't post the information, but I want you to read it with your own lyin' eyes.  Needless to say, the cap existed long before The Battle of the Alamo.

(I know a little bit about coons because my pop used to hunt them when I was just a little guy.  He must have started feeling guilty about it because later when I was a young man, he'd bring home abandoned raccoon kits and we'd raise them.  One used to love to ride on his shoulder while he drove around checking his leases.  Here's a short lesson in coon anatomy, just to lighten up this post a bit)

I see that you're choosing to believe the Billy Bob Thornton movie version instead of The Duke's. Fine by me, but it serves as proof you prefer to get your history from Hollywood movies instead of books.  Once again, from Wiki: Davy Crockett "All that is certain (my emphasis) about the fate of David Crockett is that he died fighting at the Alamo on the morning of March 6, 1836, at age 49."

Being a Texan and lover of history, I already knew that the Billy Bob movie version ending came from a Mexican officer's journal, a man named la Peña. Due to the fact that no other manuscript has ever been uncovered corroborating la Peña's account, it's not been accepted as anything close to being factual and most historical scholars think it a hoax. If you'll read the Wiki article, you'll see that Alamo survivors of the battle stated something altogether differently in regards to how Crockett died.

I bet you get your "facts" about climate change from An Inconvenient Truth, your "facts" about the Kennedy assassination from Oliver Stone's JFK and your "facts" about the Vietnam War from Apocalypse Now. Am I right or am I right?  Hooray for Hollywood, passing lies off as truth, glorifying the worst of our culture (and contributing to its decline), ridiculing any other opinions but their own...warping idiot's minds for a century!

Oh please, pretty please bring up Gasland and how hydraulic fracturing (fracking) is bad. I'll blow you out of the not-burning water with FACTS, Jack.   On second thought, never mind;  I'm sure you'll attempt to use "facts" that are anything but.  I've spent more than enough time on exposing you as it is. 

Anyway...you damyankees need to tend to your own history books, leave ours alone. Sure, we Texans like our historical heroic myths and sometimes our text books contain the wrong information, but sweep around your own door first.

Live off welfare like 90% of Southern Republicans

and this one:

70% of the 47% are elderly and Republicans in the conferacy.[sic] You old Southern Reps are the laziest and most ignorant leeches in the world.

I've done a LOT of reading about the meme that "Blue states support Red states". First of all, the 90% figure needs to be flushed down the toilet, just like many other of your "facts". The "Blue vs. Red" division needs to be stabbed in the heart, because it's not only more complicated than that, it's also a lie.

If you ever take the time to look at red/blue spots by voting demographics, you'll see that the U.S. is more "purple" than simply red or blue. Makes sense if you look at how the last several presidential elections went, but then again, if you'll look closer, you'll see that many states that voted for the Democrat presidential candidate have a majority of Republicans in their state houses as well as represented in Congress and vice versa in others. Others, not all.

So, saying a state is either red or blue depends upon how they voted in the last Presidential election is a case of mislabeling. Except for blue states such as NY and Mass., several others in the northeast and on the west coast, some so-called red states like Florida have flipped back and forth.

Then too, just like any other analysis of statistics, one must "drill down" and consider other numbers and variables. For instance, Texas is a "red state", right? Well, look at some of the largest population density regions, such as the Valley and Houston, etc. They're solidly "Blue" and other large Texas cities are "light Blue". Large urban centers vote Democrat, that's a fact. Consider New Orleans in Louisiana, Atlanta in Georgia, other huge cities in red states. They vote Democrat.  Again, that's a fact, look it up. 

A Pew study and poll showed Democrats were responsible for 60+% of the benefits taken.  I've seen other articles claim the figure is closer to 80% in some categories.   Consider the huge numbers of Democrats in those urban centers, it's obvious that it's not Southern Republicans taking the welfare, it's that they are supporting the Democrat voters - the "leeches" - in their states. 

I'm sure you'll try to come back with social security figures or how much each state gets in Federal dollars vs. what they pay back, etc., but that argument is often made by misleading statistics or over-simplifying them or not accounting that - for example - that many "red" states have more military bases (pork projects from past Democratic Representatives) and that "red" states like Florida and Arizona have a larger than average elderly population using their PAID FOR benefits like SSI and Medicare.   Add in Federal land in "red" states that have a big influx of federal dollars (many Western states)  and even that equation changes which would prove you even more wrong. 

The US has no gun control laws

You mean I can go buy a machine gun? Wow, I always thought I had to have an expensive Federal license, be investigated, pay a yearly fee, be subject to visits by the ATF to make sure I still have possession of the weapon and all that!

If that's the case, I want a Thompson (Tommy gun) , you 'n me can be just like Bonny and Clyde (I'll be Clyde, of course).  No, scratch that, I want a 50-caliber to go hunting with, we got some big jackrabbits here in Texas.  No, no, I want one of those Warthog 30mm Gatling guns to mount on top of my house so I can shoot the speeders as they whiz by.

Biggest lie you've told and that's saying' sumpthin'. Of COURSE we have gun control laws. Did you type that with a straight face or was it intended to be a lie, Mr. Goebbels?

Yeah, let's ban guns, bans worked so well during Prohibition and with our current drug laws. 

I hope you're the one who comes to take my few firearms away. Just be warned that I'll give you the ammunition first, very quickly...a little faster than the speed of sound, in fact. 

If you want to take away my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, then you're a traitor and need to have your citizenship terminated...with "extreme prejudice".

Bernie is a moderate centrist who flip flops between the center-left and center-right.

No, he's not a "moderate centrist". If he were, he'd be a middle-of-the-road Republican, a RINO or at best, a conservative Democrat (a rare bird, the numbers of which would rival those of the passenger pigeon.) He says he's a Democratic Socialist, just using a word like "Democratic"  trying to disguise his true affiliation - Communist.  He ran as an Independent to further disguise his true ideology.  He aligned himself with the Democrats only for relevancy...but that the Democrats allowed him to run on their ticket speaks volumes about THEIR true ideology.

(and let's get something else straight;  while "Progressive", "Socialist", "Communist" and "Marxist" DO all have different definitions, their desired end results are all exactly the same - a totalitarian regime.)

Granted, he struck a chord with the younger generation, but his supporters were mostly a thankfully small percentage of the newest voting generation, the narcissistic, self-absorbed whiners. Like you.

Taxes are absurdly low, we need real increases

No, they're not and no we don't. We need to cut spending. Anyone who has ever budgeted for a household or business could attest to that. It's only the leeches and "gimme" crowd that think that. Like you think.

The over 35 crowd have had everything handed to them on a silver platter

Yeah, those darn Boomers! I'm a Boomer, but I never had a silver platter or anything handed to me on one.  I DO know a few folks who fit that description, but that's true of any generation.

Add "Ageist" to your growing list of bigoted beliefs.

Seriously, sounds like your generation actually believed Harry Potter and that all the problems can be solved by a simple flick of the wand. Thank goodness it's not, because you pouting pusillanimous punks would be screaming "Avada Kedavra" at everyone with white hair or wrinkles. How 'bout instead of whining on message boards, you go actually DO something to change the world? Oh, I forget, that would require work and participation and actual interaction with others on a personal and REAL level, not moaning about it online or having to look up from your cell phones. Like you do.

There's a reason no one lives in no tax places like Wyoming and South Dakota.

From Wiki: Wyoming Population: 2015 (est) 586,107  I see, a half-million+ people is "no one". You think so few people live there because of no corporate tax or personal income tax and NOT because of the cold-as-hell winters? I'd say the fact that the U.S. govt. owns nearly half of Wyoming has something to do with it as well.

From Wiki: South Dakota Population 2015 (est) 858,469 Where exactly is the cut off that defines "no one"? According to you, it's not rural flight but because they're mostly Republican voting states and not nearly Socialist enough. Have I interpreted your insinuation correctly? Of course, both of those states are largely agricultural based without a lot of heavy industry, so they're not going to have a huge GDP OR population.

California has a surplus and a stable budget as a result of raising taxes on the rich.

Sorry, but this is from Breitbart, which I know you despise as a source, but they also post links to their information cited...just like Wikipedia, which you claim to be a reputable cite. (not saying it is or isn't, just that if you want us to accept Wiki, then you need to accept Breitbart or admit that you're the hypocrite most of the rest of us already realize.)

California Budget in Deficit as Silicon Valley Falters
From the site: "The bipartisan Legislative Analysts’ Office has announced that California’s 2015-16 personal income tax collection has fallen from a huge surplus to a $147 million deficit. The cause appears to be plummeting Silicon Valley capital gains and weakening tech employment."

Also, note the date of the article - Feb. 5th of this yr. YOUR assertion of "facts" was made on July 8th. So, what's your excuse? You had your head buried in the sand for five months, or didn't want to bring it up because it wouldn't fit your narrative? Personally, I think it's because you're a habitual liar. Using your reasoning on other matters, I'd have to say ALL Socialists are liars. To top that off, you went on with this:

Meanwhile states like Kansas and Louisiana which cut taxes on the rich dramatically are economic wasteland

Kansas "The Bureau of Economic Analysis estimates that the total GDP in 2008 was $122.7 billion, making it the United States's 32nd highest state by GDP." Hmmm. While it ranks in the bottom half of states in GDP, it's also a largely agricultural state and has also suffered from rural flight. It's also 34th in population, so being 32nd in GDP isn't all that bad with that considered.

The state is ranked #8 in both oil and gas production, but prices are down and that's certainly not helping the economics of that state. My own royalties have been horrible lately. Yep, a Texan who owns (part of) several gas wells...in Oklahoma, bless that brilliantly red state, so glad it's such a great neighbor! I wish OU wouldn't kick UT's butt so often in football, but I still love the state.

Louisiana 25th in population, 24th in GDP. Smack dab in the middle of all the states isn't exactly what I'd call an "economic wasteland".

Only a stupid person responds with ad hominum [sic] attacks rather then accept facts.

This one made me laugh...well "snicker", actually. You've done a fair amount of mud-slinging, against Republicans, Conservatives (and the two aren't mutually inclusive, you should know), Christians, southern states, etc. Pot, meet kettle.  You could call it "blow back" for years of abuse of Conservatives.  We now realize insults hurt you thin-skinned progressives.  You can dish it out, but you can't take it. 

Everyone pays for a service and that service provides it free of charge to everyone.

THIS one makes me shake my head and think "Did he really just say that?" If someone has to pay for a service, then how is it free? Honestly, do you really THINK before you type this stuff out? This is what I'd expect to find on a used wad of toilet paper, not coming from the brain of an "educated" "intellectual", self-admitted Socialist. Maybe what's on that TP is what you have for brains?

The minimum wage of a server is $2.15

Another "fact" that happens to be wrong: Tipped wage in the United States "The American federal government requires a wage of at least $2.13 per hour be paid to employees that receive at least $30 per month in tips. If wages and tips do not equal the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour during any pay period, the employer is required to increase cash wages to compensate. As of May 2012, the average hourly wage – including tips – for a restaurant employee in the United States that received tip income was $11.82."

Not off by much, only a couple of pennies, but that two cents represents the value of the "facts" you claim. I noticed you didn't bring up the compensation that's mandated by law.

Besides all that, it's always someone of YOUR generation who is a server or preparer who thinks it's fine to spit in someone's food, be it a poor tipper or someone of a different race or a cop or a soldier. Yep, you guys need to be rewarded for that, for sure....with a whack of a bat across the mouth, let you spit out a few teeth instead of phlegm on someone's burger.   Too violent?  OK, then...let's go around to any pool hall and empty the spittoons around all the domino tables, fill up a five gallon bucket and shove the spitter's head in it.  Do it a few times until they got the message that when you do something nasty as spitting in someone's food, then something nasty happens to the offender.

You don't want me to get started on what I'd do to taggers and graffitti "artists".

The Christian Taliban wants only the wealthy elite to go to college

What nonsense! "Christian Taliban" is an oxymoron. It's a pseudo hate phrase created by anti-Christian bigoted leftists and so-called "tolerant liberals". It's akin to saying "a carnivorous vegetarian" and is a sophomoric insult (Ironically, "sophomore" is thought to have derived from the Greek for "wise fool", another oxymoron, although in your case it's quite apt)

To state this clearer: There's no such thing. This. Doesn't. Exist.

(Disclaimer: Those aren't my words;  I saw them when I Googled the term, but liked them so much I decided to include them)

He's not the one who believes that a bearded sky fairy controls our lives and that fatal cancer in children is a sign that this sky fairy is good and we need to worship said monster.

While I certainly wouldn't argue against that some Christians are full of hate, IMHO they're really not Christians, not by deed or definition. Lumping them all together, however, is stereotyping and that in itself is a form of bigotry. While anecdotes and personal observations can't qualify as "facts", why is it the most hateful and unhinged people that I see posting in forums and message boards are atheists?

Honestly, why does a monument with the Ten Commandments on the courthouse lawn send you atheists into apoplectic fits?  Like it or not, they were a basis for American law and should be taken into historical significance if for no other reason.

Me? I'm an "optimistic agnostic", so I don't really have a dog in the fight except that some of my dearest friends are Christians and I won't stand for them to be slandered. They're all flawed humans, just like the rest of us (you included...especially you), but it is their QUEST for perfection, their attempt to walk in Jesus' footsteps that makes them Christians.  None I've ever known revel in others misfortunes and if they did, they wouldn't be Christians OR my friends.

While they might turn the other cheek if you insulted them, if I was there when you said it I'd snatch you up by your hair and try my best to break your nose. (and I'm fairly certain I could do it even though I bet I have four decades on you in age.) That wouldn't be warm rain falling on your face as you lay there stunned afterwards, either. Being pretty much of a heathen, I won't have to ask forgiveness from either you OR the "bearded sky fairy". I'll just need bail money, that's all. (that is, if you press charges, pretty much what wussies do after they get their butts kicked)

82% of the 47% are either old or are poor people in the red southern states that Trump won by massive margins, facts can't be disputed

There's not even any need to attempt to rebut this because, like most of your "facts", you pulled this out of your anal orifice. I not only disputed your "facts" up above, I destroyed them.

MSNBC is for center-right moderate conservatives like Obama or Hillary.

I'm pretty sure Socialists and sane people don't use the same dictionary and I'm not sure we even live on the same planet.  Good grief. Apparently according to you anyone who is a fraction of an inch to the right of Mao is "center-right".

The Obama economy is far better than either Bush economy or the Reagan economy this time in their terms

Uh, not exactly true- the charts I saw showed "Obama's economy" to be below Reagan's and only slightly better than Bush's at the same point in time.  Other than public confidence in the Administration, the Federal Reserve has much more impact.   Some presidential policies can take years before seeing an effect and good or bad, the person in the Oval Office down the road gets credit...or the blame.

Presidents, just like football coaches, can make a blunder and lose the game, or call a great play and win. Like a coach's ball team, though, there are more players involved in the game, ditto for those in the game of politics. Just like a coach, a President often gets the blame for things out of his control and often takes the credit for things others did.

You might want to take a look at the majorities in the House of Representatives during both good and bad economic times. They are, after all, the branch with the authority to initiate tax increases or spending proposals. It might surprise you (IOW, not fit your narrative) and at the very least it would verify there's more than enough blame to go around.

The top tax rate in the 1950's was 90%. If only we could have real politicians advocating reasonable rates like that

Fewer millionaires and billionaires back then, too. I hope a LOT of Democrat politicians (and a goodly number of Republicans) take up that cause. It would be lovely to watch their political careers come to a screeching halt. They'd self-term limit.

...a polygraph .... is so ineffective and prone to error that it isn't admissible in court.

Polygraph tests are admissible in certain states and in federal court at the discretion of the trial judge. States like California, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and Florida allow the tests if everyone stipulates to their use and agrees to admit the results into evidence.

Michigan voters elected and re-elected a dictator that intentionally poisoned an entire city.

Definition of a dictator: a ruler who wields absolute authority.  If Snyder was a dictator, then why did he even need to run for office?  Another one of your totally absurd statements.

From Wiki: Flint water crisis "Governor Snyder issued an apology to citizens and promised to fix the problem, and then sent $28 million to Flint for supplies, medical care and infrastructure upgrades, and later budgeted an additional $30 million to Flint that will give water bill credits of 65% for residents and 20% for businesses. Another $165 million for lead pipe replacements and water bill reimbursements was approved by Governor Snyder on June 29, 2016."

I'd like to know how he planned to poison only those voters who voted against him and not the ones who did.  I guess if he was a dictator like your idol Stalin, killing millions in order to weed out the few who opposed him would be the thing to do.

Honestly, your hyperbole is ludicrous.  I've told you a hundred million billion times to not exaggerate!

This being the south, they will most likely only ask the welfare office about black winners while they will give white winners the money no questions asked.

"Most likely". I see what you did there, added an "out" in opinion form. There's no rebuttal to that, but neither is there any truth. It's just a hateful, bigoted thing to say...but why am I not surprised since it comes from you? All the hate you aim towards others is merely projection on your part. It's easy to see you're a self-loathing, white-guilt infested bigoted liar...and a Commie wannabe, to boot.  You think that if America is transformed into your Socialist dream world, YOU'LL be one of the privileged few, ruling the plebes and instead of having a dacha on the Black Sea like the Soviet elite, yours will be in the Catskills. 

So, I'd say "Shame on you!" for lying, but I hate that phrase, it's something the Democrats love to fling at Republicans. You really need to slink on out of here, have Todd delete your account because I HAVE just shamed you in front of God (or that "bearded sky fairy", whichever you prefer) and everyone. I've exposed you for the liar you are.  We'll see now if you apologize for your lies or continue on with them.

There's one more Progressive lie that needs to be addressed:  It's not that Conservatives dislike higher education, nothing could be farther from the truth, but rather that Progressives have disdain for blue collar workers, the ones who actually produce goods and build things by the sweat of their brows. Well, those workers who are Conservative, anyway.
I'm sorry that you have so much student loan debt, but you could have paid ME to teach you, giving me just 40 grand out of the 80 you owe and got twice the education.  Don't believe me?  Look how I schooled you with this post!

Then again, Judge Smails would have given you some FREE advice:

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After reading your entire post, I am left speechless but do want to thank you for all your research on debunking these clueless lefties. Very well laid out! Cheers

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Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 6, 2016

No, KingofDerp, facts aren't "borderline insanity" but someone would have to be crazy to believe the ones you've spewed forth.

You challenged:  Then do it, show us something this (that is?)  contradictory or factually incorrect.

I went through your posts and picked out your "greatest hits" to focus upon.  "They didn't have a good beat, Dick, and were hard to dance to!"  Sorry, showing my age.  I think they're in reverse order for the most part, most recent to earliest, although there are a few I combined under the same topic. 

Who cares? They're all a crock, anyway.

I want to preface my rebuttal with how I want to point out I have tried to avoid using the term "Liberal", especially as a pejorative and have instead opted for "Progressive".  Classical liberalism makes up a large part of my own personal political beliefs.

The next several come from the same vomitus in a single post.

Conservatives and Republicans oppose the minimum wage

No, they don't.  A Pew research poll from a few years back said half of Republicans support a raise in min. wage.  I've since seen other more recent polls that show a majority of Republicans favor an increase,  but not to the levels the Democrats propose.

As has been explained to you in here, min. wage was always intended to be a starting wage for people entering the work force, not a perpetual one. I've read that, in McDonalds case, it wouldn't raise the price of a burger by much. That's probably true in some other areas, too, but I'd also bet it will reduce the numbers of those entry level employees hired. McD's is already working on automation and I bet other businesses will follow suit because labor costs are usually 70% of any business's overhead. Sure, raise it if you must, but it HAS to be gradual or the wage hike will have some adverse repercussions, a ripple effect which would turn into a tidal wave and wreak havoc with our economy. 

That's one of the most fundamental differences between Progressives and Conservatives; a Conservative says "Wait a minute, let's not be too hasty, let's think about it, discuss it before doing anything." Progressives are like spoiled children, wanting something not just NOW, but yesterday and they hold their breath and stomp their widdle feet until the adults (Conservatives) give in.

support homophobia

Sure, you have some religious types who were anti-gay marriage, dislike the gay "lifestyle", but at least they're steadfast in their opposition while many Democrats only switched when they saw which way the political wind was blowing. Me? I'm a conservative small L libertarian and I had no objection other than semantics. Marriage has always been defined as a religious union between a man and a woman. (and "gay" meant happy) On the civil rights side, I saw nothing wrong with civil unions, but my libertarian bent makes me chafe that govt. has ANYTHING to do with marriage to begin with.

support women dying from illegal abortions etc etc, it's pretty clear which side of the spectrum has concern for human life

Ah, the "coat hanger" argument. Doesn't fly, Mommie Dearest. I want to say "most", but instead will say "many" conservatives would allow for abortion in cases of rape, incest and life of the mother. "Back alley abortions" account for only 200 at most each year, as opposed to the nearly million legal abortions. It's estimated that there have been well over 50 million abortions since Roe v. Wade. That's a staggering number, but what I find sickening is how abortion is celebrated as a woman's right to choose, yet nothing is mentioned about the unborn's right to life, their civil rights being terminated along with the pregnancy. Of course, since the baby is "only a lump of tissue", then they have no rights, right?

All that said, it's the law but there's also nothing illegal about people being against the practice. (unless the only opinion that counts is yours and those like-minded, huh?) There is a need for regulation, though, because it is a medical procedure, after all.  Even a transgender person is required to have counseling before surgery.
"Up to the point of viability!" is the cry of abortion supporters, a reluctant sop to those who would reasonably restrict abortion to before the last trimester.  Why stop there, why not do "post-birth" abortions? I mean...a baby can't live w/out care from the mother (and/or father) for several years after being born. Good grief, I know teenagers and grown men who couldn't survive on their own for more than a week w/out someone taking care of them.

No, let's extend that time to at least a year after birth. That way you Progressives can get rid of the mentally challenged, the crippled, the wrong sex, the ones that are unattractive...just name the defect, and terminate it and the "host" that carries it. A financial burden?  Throw it in the trash. Ruin your figure?  Abort the "lump".  Simply can't be bothered?  Throw the baby out with the bathwater!  We all know that's what you Progressives want, what your leftist heroes of the past did. THAT'S the "side of the spectrum" that has no concern for human life.

Not long ago I read an article that called for climate change deniers to be killed. That's the Progressive way, right? How many did Stalin and Mao, other leftists, murder only because they dared to speak out? Do the research on THAT and get back to me about "which spectrum" values human life more.

Elect a Leftist, or even a centrist like Sanders and you'd get very different results.

Sanders, a centrist? Bwwaaaaa!

The most extreme cases of political correctness are in the right, not the left

Did I spell "Bwwaaaa!" correctly above? That comes close to the most idiotic thing you've ever said, not to mention the biggest whopper.

Davy Crockett existed, the hat did not at the time. Also him and a few others were captured alive and executed.

Oops, your beloved Wiki says otherwise: Coonskin cap  I won't post the information, but I want you to read it with your own lyin' eyes.  Needless to say, the cap existed long before The Battle of the Alamo.

(I know a little bit about coons because my pop used to hunt them when I was just a little guy.  He must have started feeling guilty about it because later when I was a young man, he'd bring home abandoned raccoon kits and we'd raise them.  One used to love to ride on his shoulder while he drove around checking his leases.  Here's a short lesson in coon anatomy, just to lighten up this post a bit)

I see that you're choosing to believe the Billy Bob Thornton movie version instead of The Duke's. Fine by me, but it serves as proof you prefer to get your history from Hollywood movies instead of books.  Once again, from Wiki: Davy Crockett "All that is certain (my emphasis) about the fate of David Crockett is that he died fighting at the Alamo on the morning of March 6, 1836, at age 49."

Being a Texan and lover of history, I already knew that the Billy Bob movie version ending came from a Mexican officer's journal, a man named la Peña. Due to the fact that no other manuscript has ever been uncovered corroborating la Peña's account, it's not been accepted as anything close to being factual and most historical scholars think it a hoax. If you'll read the Wiki article, you'll see that Alamo survivors of the battle stated something altogether differently in regards to how Crockett died.

I bet you get your "facts" about climate change from An Inconvenient Truth, your "facts" about the Kennedy assassination from Oliver Stone's JFK and your "facts" about the Vietnam War from Apocalypse Now. Am I right or am I right?  Hooray for Hollywood, passing lies off as truth, glorifying the worst of our culture (and contributing to its decline), ridiculing any other opinions but their own...warping idiot's minds for a century!

Oh please, pretty please bring up Gasland and how hydraulic fracturing (fracking) is bad. I'll blow you out of the not-burning water with FACTS, Jack.   On second thought, never mind;  I'm sure you'll attempt to use "facts" that are anything but.  I've spent more than enough time on exposing you as it is. 

Anyway...you damyankees need to tend to your own history books, leave ours alone. Sure, we Texans like our historical heroic myths and sometimes our text books contain the wrong information, but sweep around your own door first.

Live off welfare like 90% of Southern Republicans

and this one:

70% of the 47% are elderly and Republicans in the conferacy.[sic] You old Southern Reps are the laziest and most ignorant leeches in the world.

I've done a LOT of reading about the meme that "Blue states support Red states". First of all, the 90% figure needs to be flushed down the toilet, just like many other of your "facts". The "Blue vs. Red" division needs to be stabbed in the heart, because it's not only more complicated than that, it's also a lie.

If you ever take the time to look at red/blue spots by voting demographics, you'll see that the U.S. is more "purple" than simply red or blue. Makes sense if you look at how the last several presidential elections went, but then again, if you'll look closer, you'll see that many states that voted for the Democrat presidential candidate have a majority of Republicans in their state houses as well as represented in Congress and vice versa in others. Others, not all.

So, saying a state is either red or blue depends upon how they voted in the last Presidential election is a case of mislabeling. Except for blue states such as NY and Mass., several others in the northeast and on the west coast, some so-called red states like Florida have flipped back and forth.

Then too, just like any other analysis of statistics, one must "drill down" and consider other numbers and variables. For instance, Texas is a "red state", right? Well, look at some of the largest population density regions, such as the Valley and Houston, etc. They're solidly "Blue" and other large Texas cities are "light Blue". Large urban centers vote Democrat, that's a fact. Consider New Orleans in Louisiana, Atlanta in Georgia, other huge cities in red states. They vote Democrat.  Again, that's a fact, look it up. 

A Pew study and poll showed Democrats were responsible for 60+% of the benefits taken.  I've seen other articles claim the figure is closer to 80% in some categories.   Consider the huge numbers of Democrats in those urban centers, it's obvious that it's not Southern Republicans taking the welfare, it's that they are supporting the Democrat voters - the "leeches" - in their states. 

I'm sure you'll try to come back with social security figures or how much each state gets in Federal dollars vs. what they pay back, etc., but that argument is often made by misleading statistics or over-simplifying them or not accounting that - for example - that many "red" states have more military bases (pork projects from past Democratic Representatives) and that "red" states like Florida and Arizona have a larger than average elderly population using their PAID FOR benefits like SSI and Medicare.   Add in Federal land in "red" states that have a big influx of federal dollars (many Western states)  and even that equation changes which would prove you even more wrong. 

The US has no gun control laws

You mean I can go buy a machine gun? Wow, I always thought I had to have an expensive Federal license, be investigated, pay a yearly fee, be subject to visits by the ATF to make sure I still have possession of the weapon and all that!

If that's the case, I want a Thompson (Tommy gun) , you 'n me can be just like Bonny and Clyde (I'll be Clyde, of course).  No, scratch that, I want a 50-caliber to go hunting with, we got some big jackrabbits here in Texas.  No, no, I want one of those Warthog 30mm Gatling guns to mount on top of my house so I can shoot the speeders as they whiz by.

Biggest lie you've told and that's saying' sumpthin'. Of COURSE we have gun control laws. Did you type that with a straight face or was it intended to be a lie, Mr. Goebbels?

Yeah, let's ban guns, bans worked so well during Prohibition and with our current drug laws. 

I hope you're the one who comes to take my few firearms away. Just be warned that I'll give you the ammunition first, very quickly...a little faster than the speed of sound, in fact. 

If you want to take away my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, then you're a traitor and need to have your citizenship terminated...with "extreme prejudice".

Bernie is a moderate centrist who flip flops between the center-left and center-right.

No, he's not a "moderate centrist". If he were, he'd be a middle-of-the-road Republican, a RINO or at best, a conservative Democrat (a rare bird, the numbers of which would rival those of the passenger pigeon.) He says he's a Democratic Socialist, just using a word like "Democratic"  trying to disguise his true affiliation - Communist.  He ran as an Independent to further disguise his true ideology.  He aligned himself with the Democrats only for relevancy...but that the Democrats allowed him to run on their ticket speaks volumes about THEIR true ideology.

(and let's get something else straight;  while "Progressive", "Socialist", "Communist" and "Marxist" DO all have different definitions, their desired end results are all exactly the same - a totalitarian regime.)

Granted, he struck a chord with the younger generation, but his supporters were mostly a thankfully small percentage of the newest voting generation, the narcissistic, self-absorbed whiners. Like you.

Taxes are absurdly low, we need real increases

No, they're not and no we don't. We need to cut spending. Anyone who has ever budgeted for a household or business could attest to that. It's only the leeches and "gimme" crowd that think that. Like you think.

The over 35 crowd have had everything handed to them on a silver platter

Yeah, those darn Boomers! I'm a Boomer, but I never had a silver platter or anything handed to me on one.  I DO know a few folks who fit that description, but that's true of any generation.

Add "Ageist" to your growing list of bigoted beliefs.

Seriously, sounds like your generation actually believed Harry Potter and that all the problems can be solved by a simple flick of the wand. Thank goodness it's not, because you pouting pusillanimous punks would be screaming "Avada Kedavra" at everyone with white hair or wrinkles. How 'bout instead of whining on message boards, you go actually DO something to change the world? Oh, I forget, that would require work and participation and actual interaction with others on a personal and REAL level, not moaning about it online or having to look up from your cell phones. Like you do.

There's a reason no one lives in no tax places like Wyoming and South Dakota.

From Wiki: Wyoming Population: 2015 (est) 586,107  I see, a half-million+ people is "no one". You think so few people live there because of no corporate tax or personal income tax and NOT because of the cold-as-hell winters? I'd say the fact that the U.S. govt. owns nearly half of Wyoming has something to do with it as well.

From Wiki: South Dakota Population 2015 (est) 858,469 Where exactly is the cut off that defines "no one"? According to you, it's not rural flight but because they're mostly Republican voting states and not nearly Socialist enough. Have I interpreted your insinuation correctly? Of course, both of those states are largely agricultural based without a lot of heavy industry, so they're not going to have a huge GDP OR population.

California has a surplus and a stable budget as a result of raising taxes on the rich.

Sorry, but this is from Breitbart, which I know you despise as a source, but they also post links to their information cited...just like Wikipedia, which you claim to be a reputable cite. (not saying it is or isn't, just that if you want us to accept Wiki, then you need to accept Breitbart or admit that you're the hypocrite most of the rest of us already realize.)

California Budget in Deficit as Silicon Valley Falters
From the site: "The bipartisan Legislative Analysts’ Office has announced that California’s 2015-16 personal income tax collection has fallen from a huge surplus to a $147 million deficit. The cause appears to be plummeting Silicon Valley capital gains and weakening tech employment."

Also, note the date of the article - Feb. 5th of this yr. YOUR assertion of "facts" was made on July 8th. So, what's your excuse? You had your head buried in the sand for five months, or didn't want to bring it up because it wouldn't fit your narrative? Personally, I think it's because you're a habitual liar. Using your reasoning on other matters, I'd have to say ALL Socialists are liars. To top that off, you went on with this:

Meanwhile states like Kansas and Louisiana which cut taxes on the rich dramatically are economic wasteland

Kansas "The Bureau of Economic Analysis estimates that the total GDP in 2008 was $122.7 billion, making it the United States's 32nd highest state by GDP." Hmmm. While it ranks in the bottom half of states in GDP, it's also a largely agricultural state and has also suffered from rural flight. It's also 34th in population, so being 32nd in GDP isn't all that bad with that considered.

The state is ranked #8 in both oil and gas production, but prices are down and that's certainly not helping the economics of that state. My own royalties have been horrible lately. Yep, a Texan who owns (part of) several gas wells...in Oklahoma, bless that brilliantly red state, so glad it's such a great neighbor! I wish OU wouldn't kick UT's butt so often in football, but I still love the state.

Louisiana 25th in population, 24th in GDP. Smack dab in the middle of all the states isn't exactly what I'd call an "economic wasteland".

Only a stupid person responds with ad hominum [sic] attacks rather then accept facts.

This one made me laugh...well "snicker", actually. You've done a fair amount of mud-slinging, against Republicans, Conservatives (and the two aren't mutually inclusive, you should know), Christians, southern states, etc. Pot, meet kettle.  You could call it "blow back" for years of abuse of Conservatives.  We now realize insults hurt you thin-skinned progressives.  You can dish it out, but you can't take it. 

Everyone pays for a service and that service provides it free of charge to everyone.

THIS one makes me shake my head and think "Did he really just say that?" If someone has to pay for a service, then how is it free? Honestly, do you really THINK before you type this stuff out? This is what I'd expect to find on a used wad of toilet paper, not coming from the brain of an "educated" "intellectual", self-admitted Socialist. Maybe what's on that TP is what you have for brains?

The minimum wage of a server is $2.15

Another "fact" that happens to be wrong: Tipped wage in the United States "The American federal government requires a wage of at least $2.13 per hour be paid to employees that receive at least $30 per month in tips. If wages and tips do not equal the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour during any pay period, the employer is required to increase cash wages to compensate. As of May 2012, the average hourly wage – including tips – for a restaurant employee in the United States that received tip income was $11.82."

Not off by much, only a couple of pennies, but that two cents represents the value of the "facts" you claim. I noticed you didn't bring up the compensation that's mandated by law.

Besides all that, it's always someone of YOUR generation who is a server or preparer who thinks it's fine to spit in someone's food, be it a poor tipper or someone of a different race or a cop or a soldier. Yep, you guys need to be rewarded for that, for sure....with a whack of a bat across the mouth, let you spit out a few teeth instead of phlegm on someone's burger.   Too violent?  OK, then...let's go around to any pool hall and empty the spittoons around all the domino tables, fill up a five gallon bucket and shove the spitter's head in it.  Do it a few times until they got the message that when you do something nasty as spitting in someone's food, then something nasty happens to the offender.

You don't want me to get started on what I'd do to taggers and graffitti "artists".

The Christian Taliban wants only the wealthy elite to go to college

What nonsense! "Christian Taliban" is an oxymoron. It's a pseudo hate phrase created by anti-Christian bigoted leftists and so-called "tolerant liberals". It's akin to saying "a carnivorous vegetarian" and is a sophomoric insult (Ironically, "sophomore" is thought to have derived from the Greek for "wise fool", another oxymoron, although in your case it's quite apt)

To state this clearer: There's no such thing. This. Doesn't. Exist.

(Disclaimer: Those aren't my words;  I saw them when I Googled the term, but liked them so much I decided to include them)

He's not the one who believes that a bearded sky fairy controls our lives and that fatal cancer in children is a sign that this sky fairy is good and we need to worship said monster.

While I certainly wouldn't argue against that some Christians are full of hate, IMHO they're really not Christians, not by deed or definition. Lumping them all together, however, is stereotyping and that in itself is a form of bigotry. While anecdotes and personal observations can't qualify as "facts", why is it the most hateful and unhinged people that I see posting in forums and message boards are atheists?

Honestly, why does a monument with the Ten Commandments on the courthouse lawn send you atheists into apoplectic fits?  Like it or not, they were a basis for American law and should be taken into historical significance if for no other reason.

Me? I'm an "optimistic agnostic", so I don't really have a dog in the fight except that some of my dearest friends are Christians and I won't stand for them to be slandered. They're all flawed humans, just like the rest of us (you included...especially you), but it is their QUEST for perfection, their attempt to walk in Jesus' footsteps that makes them Christians.  None I've ever known revel in others misfortunes and if they did, they wouldn't be Christians OR my friends.

While they might turn the other cheek if you insulted them, if I was there when you said it I'd snatch you up by your hair and try my best to break your nose. (and I'm fairly certain I could do it even though I bet I have four decades on you in age.) That wouldn't be warm rain falling on your face as you lay there stunned afterwards, either. Being pretty much of a heathen, I won't have to ask forgiveness from either you OR the "bearded sky fairy". I'll just need bail money, that's all. (that is, if you press charges, pretty much what wussies do after they get their butts kicked)

82% of the 47% are either old or are poor people in the red southern states that Trump won by massive margins, facts can't be disputed

There's not even any need to attempt to rebut this because, like most of your "facts", you pulled this out of your anal orifice. I not only disputed your "facts" up above, I destroyed them.

MSNBC is for center-right moderate conservatives like Obama or Hillary.

I'm pretty sure Socialists and sane people don't use the same dictionary and I'm not sure we even live on the same planet.  Good grief. Apparently according to you anyone who is a fraction of an inch to the right of Mao is "center-right".

The Obama economy is far better than either Bush economy or the Reagan economy this time in their terms

Uh, not exactly true- the charts I saw showed "Obama's economy" to be below Reagan's and only slightly better than Bush's at the same point in time.  Other than public confidence in the Administration, the Federal Reserve has much more impact.   Some presidential policies can take years before seeing an effect and good or bad, the person in the Oval Office down the road gets credit...or the blame.

Presidents, just like football coaches, can make a blunder and lose the game, or call a great play and win. Like a coach's ball team, though, there are more players involved in the game, ditto for those in the game of politics. Just like a coach, a President often gets the blame for things out of his control and often takes the credit for things others did.

You might want to take a look at the majorities in the House of Representatives during both good and bad economic times. They are, after all, the branch with the authority to initiate tax increases or spending proposals. It might surprise you (IOW, not fit your narrative) and at the very least it would verify there's more than enough blame to go around.

The top tax rate in the 1950's was 90%. If only we could have real politicians advocating reasonable rates like that

Fewer millionaires and billionaires back then, too. I hope a LOT of Democrat politicians (and a goodly number of Republicans) take up that cause. It would be lovely to watch their political careers come to a screeching halt. They'd self-term limit.

...a polygraph .... is so ineffective and prone to error that it isn't admissible in court.

Polygraph tests are admissible in certain states and in federal court at the discretion of the trial judge. States like California, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and Florida allow the tests if everyone stipulates to their use and agrees to admit the results into evidence.

Michigan voters elected and re-elected a dictator that intentionally poisoned an entire city.

Definition of a dictator: a ruler who wields absolute authority.  If Snyder was a dictator, then why did he even need to run for office?  Another one of your totally absurd statements.

From Wiki: Flint water crisis "Governor Snyder issued an apology to citizens and promised to fix the problem, and then sent $28 million to Flint for supplies, medical care and infrastructure upgrades, and later budgeted an additional $30 million to Flint that will give water bill credits of 65% for residents and 20% for businesses. Another $165 million for lead pipe replacements and water bill reimbursements was approved by Governor Snyder on June 29, 2016."

I'd like to know how he planned to poison only those voters who voted against him and not the ones who did.  I guess if he was a dictator like your idol Stalin, killing millions in order to weed out the few who opposed him would be the thing to do.

Honestly, your hyperbole is ludicrous.  I've told you a hundred million billion times to not exaggerate!

This being the south, they will most likely only ask the welfare office about black winners while they will give white winners the money no questions asked.

"Most likely". I see what you did there, added an "out" in opinion form. There's no rebuttal to that, but neither is there any truth. It's just a hateful, bigoted thing to say...but why am I not surprised since it comes from you? All the hate you aim towards others is merely projection on your part. It's easy to see you're a self-loathing, white-guilt infested bigoted liar...and a Commie wannabe, to boot.  You think that if America is transformed into your Socialist dream world, YOU'LL be one of the privileged few, ruling the plebes and instead of having a dacha on the Black Sea like the Soviet elite, yours will be in the Catskills. 

So, I'd say "Shame on you!" for lying, but I hate that phrase, it's something the Democrats love to fling at Republicans. You really need to slink on out of here, have Todd delete your account because I HAVE just shamed you in front of God (or that "bearded sky fairy", whichever you prefer) and everyone. I've exposed you for the liar you are.  We'll see now if you apologize for your lies or continue on with them.

There's one more Progressive lie that needs to be addressed:  It's not that Conservatives dislike higher education, nothing could be farther from the truth, but rather that Progressives have disdain for blue collar workers, the ones who actually produce goods and build things by the sweat of their brows. Well, those workers who are Conservative, anyway.
I'm sorry that you have so much student loan debt, but you could have paid ME to teach you, giving me just 40 grand out of the 80 you owe and got twice the education.  Don't believe me?  Look how I schooled you with this post!

Then again, Judge Smails would have given you some FREE advice:

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Mike- All I can say is WOW! You put an awful lot of time and effort into your response and I want to praise you for that! I have neither the time or patience to construct a rebuttal to such nonsense that is being displayed by some of these leftist individuals.

Props to you Mike!

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Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 6, 2016

Too long to addres everything but i will point out three things

Davy Crockett- I raise the white flag. That was an overstepping beyond what i know. 

Christian Taliban - http://www.wral.com/proposal-supports-state-religion-in-north-carolina/12296876/

No one lives in Wyoming or South Dakota - I forgot what exactly i was replying to but i wasn't in any way trying to demean these states like you're proposing. I'll look and see the context for why i said it.

King, big of you to back step a bit and consider you may have slipped up on some points.
Your post here shows some humility. I like sully, you've been hard on her but sully stands up
very, very well for herself and that's part of why I like her, besides, she's always been nice to
me. Don't squelch yourself, it's a discussion forum. Everyone has a different opinion, I don't
agree with you on some things but you know how you feel and just like everyone else, have
the option of posting what you think. Maybe you'll come around just in time to cast your vote
for Trump...or make a mistake in the voting box LOL You are hard to like sometimes, but
you're not totally gone yet...and even if your views are off-base, you have shown some intellect
in your responses, subject matter aside, you are not a dummy.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 6, 2016

No, KingofDerp, facts aren't "borderline insanity" but someone would have to be crazy to believe the ones you've spewed forth.

You challenged:  Then do it, show us something this (that is?)  contradictory or factually incorrect.

I went through your posts and picked out your "greatest hits" to focus upon.  "They didn't have a good beat, Dick, and were hard to dance to!"  Sorry, showing my age.  I think they're in reverse order for the most part, most recent to earliest, although there are a few I combined under the same topic. 

Who cares? They're all a crock, anyway.

I want to preface my rebuttal with how I want to point out I have tried to avoid using the term "Liberal", especially as a pejorative and have instead opted for "Progressive".  Classical liberalism makes up a large part of my own personal political beliefs.

The next several come from the same vomitus in a single post.

Conservatives and Republicans oppose the minimum wage

No, they don't.  A Pew research poll from a few years back said half of Republicans support a raise in min. wage.  I've since seen other more recent polls that show a majority of Republicans favor an increase,  but not to the levels the Democrats propose.

As has been explained to you in here, min. wage was always intended to be a starting wage for people entering the work force, not a perpetual one. I've read that, in McDonalds case, it wouldn't raise the price of a burger by much. That's probably true in some other areas, too, but I'd also bet it will reduce the numbers of those entry level employees hired. McD's is already working on automation and I bet other businesses will follow suit because labor costs are usually 70% of any business's overhead. Sure, raise it if you must, but it HAS to be gradual or the wage hike will have some adverse repercussions, a ripple effect which would turn into a tidal wave and wreak havoc with our economy. 

That's one of the most fundamental differences between Progressives and Conservatives; a Conservative says "Wait a minute, let's not be too hasty, let's think about it, discuss it before doing anything." Progressives are like spoiled children, wanting something not just NOW, but yesterday and they hold their breath and stomp their widdle feet until the adults (Conservatives) give in.

support homophobia

Sure, you have some religious types who were anti-gay marriage, dislike the gay "lifestyle", but at least they're steadfast in their opposition while many Democrats only switched when they saw which way the political wind was blowing. Me? I'm a conservative small L libertarian and I had no objection other than semantics. Marriage has always been defined as a religious union between a man and a woman. (and "gay" meant happy) On the civil rights side, I saw nothing wrong with civil unions, but my libertarian bent makes me chafe that govt. has ANYTHING to do with marriage to begin with.

support women dying from illegal abortions etc etc, it's pretty clear which side of the spectrum has concern for human life

Ah, the "coat hanger" argument. Doesn't fly, Mommie Dearest. I want to say "most", but instead will say "many" conservatives would allow for abortion in cases of rape, incest and life of the mother. "Back alley abortions" account for only 200 at most each year, as opposed to the nearly million legal abortions. It's estimated that there have been well over 50 million abortions since Roe v. Wade. That's a staggering number, but what I find sickening is how abortion is celebrated as a woman's right to choose, yet nothing is mentioned about the unborn's right to life, their civil rights being terminated along with the pregnancy. Of course, since the baby is "only a lump of tissue", then they have no rights, right?

All that said, it's the law but there's also nothing illegal about people being against the practice. (unless the only opinion that counts is yours and those like-minded, huh?) There is a need for regulation, though, because it is a medical procedure, after all.  Even a transgender person is required to have counseling before surgery.
"Up to the point of viability!" is the cry of abortion supporters, a reluctant sop to those who would reasonably restrict abortion to before the last trimester.  Why stop there, why not do "post-birth" abortions? I mean...a baby can't live w/out care from the mother (and/or father) for several years after being born. Good grief, I know teenagers and grown men who couldn't survive on their own for more than a week w/out someone taking care of them.

No, let's extend that time to at least a year after birth. That way you Progressives can get rid of the mentally challenged, the crippled, the wrong sex, the ones that are unattractive...just name the defect, and terminate it and the "host" that carries it. A financial burden?  Throw it in the trash. Ruin your figure?  Abort the "lump".  Simply can't be bothered?  Throw the baby out with the bathwater!  We all know that's what you Progressives want, what your leftist heroes of the past did. THAT'S the "side of the spectrum" that has no concern for human life.

Not long ago I read an article that called for climate change deniers to be killed. That's the Progressive way, right? How many did Stalin and Mao, other leftists, murder only because they dared to speak out? Do the research on THAT and get back to me about "which spectrum" values human life more.

Elect a Leftist, or even a centrist like Sanders and you'd get very different results.

Sanders, a centrist? Bwwaaaaa!

The most extreme cases of political correctness are in the right, not the left

Did I spell "Bwwaaaa!" correctly above? That comes close to the most idiotic thing you've ever said, not to mention the biggest whopper.

Davy Crockett existed, the hat did not at the time. Also him and a few others were captured alive and executed.

Oops, your beloved Wiki says otherwise: Coonskin cap  I won't post the information, but I want you to read it with your own lyin' eyes.  Needless to say, the cap existed long before The Battle of the Alamo.

(I know a little bit about coons because my pop used to hunt them when I was just a little guy.  He must have started feeling guilty about it because later when I was a young man, he'd bring home abandoned raccoon kits and we'd raise them.  One used to love to ride on his shoulder while he drove around checking his leases.  Here's a short lesson in coon anatomy, just to lighten up this post a bit)

I see that you're choosing to believe the Billy Bob Thornton movie version instead of The Duke's. Fine by me, but it serves as proof you prefer to get your history from Hollywood movies instead of books.  Once again, from Wiki: Davy Crockett "All that is certain (my emphasis) about the fate of David Crockett is that he died fighting at the Alamo on the morning of March 6, 1836, at age 49."

Being a Texan and lover of history, I already knew that the Billy Bob movie version ending came from a Mexican officer's journal, a man named la Peña. Due to the fact that no other manuscript has ever been uncovered corroborating la Peña's account, it's not been accepted as anything close to being factual and most historical scholars think it a hoax. If you'll read the Wiki article, you'll see that Alamo survivors of the battle stated something altogether differently in regards to how Crockett died.

I bet you get your "facts" about climate change from An Inconvenient Truth, your "facts" about the Kennedy assassination from Oliver Stone's JFK and your "facts" about the Vietnam War from Apocalypse Now. Am I right or am I right?  Hooray for Hollywood, passing lies off as truth, glorifying the worst of our culture (and contributing to its decline), ridiculing any other opinions but their own...warping idiot's minds for a century!

Oh please, pretty please bring up Gasland and how hydraulic fracturing (fracking) is bad. I'll blow you out of the not-burning water with FACTS, Jack.   On second thought, never mind;  I'm sure you'll attempt to use "facts" that are anything but.  I've spent more than enough time on exposing you as it is. 

Anyway...you damyankees need to tend to your own history books, leave ours alone. Sure, we Texans like our historical heroic myths and sometimes our text books contain the wrong information, but sweep around your own door first.

Live off welfare like 90% of Southern Republicans

and this one:

70% of the 47% are elderly and Republicans in the conferacy.[sic] You old Southern Reps are the laziest and most ignorant leeches in the world.

I've done a LOT of reading about the meme that "Blue states support Red states". First of all, the 90% figure needs to be flushed down the toilet, just like many other of your "facts". The "Blue vs. Red" division needs to be stabbed in the heart, because it's not only more complicated than that, it's also a lie.

If you ever take the time to look at red/blue spots by voting demographics, you'll see that the U.S. is more "purple" than simply red or blue. Makes sense if you look at how the last several presidential elections went, but then again, if you'll look closer, you'll see that many states that voted for the Democrat presidential candidate have a majority of Republicans in their state houses as well as represented in Congress and vice versa in others. Others, not all.

So, saying a state is either red or blue depends upon how they voted in the last Presidential election is a case of mislabeling. Except for blue states such as NY and Mass., several others in the northeast and on the west coast, some so-called red states like Florida have flipped back and forth.

Then too, just like any other analysis of statistics, one must "drill down" and consider other numbers and variables. For instance, Texas is a "red state", right? Well, look at some of the largest population density regions, such as the Valley and Houston, etc. They're solidly "Blue" and other large Texas cities are "light Blue". Large urban centers vote Democrat, that's a fact. Consider New Orleans in Louisiana, Atlanta in Georgia, other huge cities in red states. They vote Democrat.  Again, that's a fact, look it up. 

A Pew study and poll showed Democrats were responsible for 60+% of the benefits taken.  I've seen other articles claim the figure is closer to 80% in some categories.   Consider the huge numbers of Democrats in those urban centers, it's obvious that it's not Southern Republicans taking the welfare, it's that they are supporting the Democrat voters - the "leeches" - in their states. 

I'm sure you'll try to come back with social security figures or how much each state gets in Federal dollars vs. what they pay back, etc., but that argument is often made by misleading statistics or over-simplifying them or not accounting that - for example - that many "red" states have more military bases (pork projects from past Democratic Representatives) and that "red" states like Florida and Arizona have a larger than average elderly population using their PAID FOR benefits like SSI and Medicare.   Add in Federal land in "red" states that have a big influx of federal dollars (many Western states)  and even that equation changes which would prove you even more wrong. 

The US has no gun control laws

You mean I can go buy a machine gun? Wow, I always thought I had to have an expensive Federal license, be investigated, pay a yearly fee, be subject to visits by the ATF to make sure I still have possession of the weapon and all that!

If that's the case, I want a Thompson (Tommy gun) , you 'n me can be just like Bonny and Clyde (I'll be Clyde, of course).  No, scratch that, I want a 50-caliber to go hunting with, we got some big jackrabbits here in Texas.  No, no, I want one of those Warthog 30mm Gatling guns to mount on top of my house so I can shoot the speeders as they whiz by.

Biggest lie you've told and that's saying' sumpthin'. Of COURSE we have gun control laws. Did you type that with a straight face or was it intended to be a lie, Mr. Goebbels?

Yeah, let's ban guns, bans worked so well during Prohibition and with our current drug laws. 

I hope you're the one who comes to take my few firearms away. Just be warned that I'll give you the ammunition first, very quickly...a little faster than the speed of sound, in fact. 

If you want to take away my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, then you're a traitor and need to have your citizenship terminated...with "extreme prejudice".

Bernie is a moderate centrist who flip flops between the center-left and center-right.

No, he's not a "moderate centrist". If he were, he'd be a middle-of-the-road Republican, a RINO or at best, a conservative Democrat (a rare bird, the numbers of which would rival those of the passenger pigeon.) He says he's a Democratic Socialist, just using a word like "Democratic"  trying to disguise his true affiliation - Communist.  He ran as an Independent to further disguise his true ideology.  He aligned himself with the Democrats only for relevancy...but that the Democrats allowed him to run on their ticket speaks volumes about THEIR true ideology.

(and let's get something else straight;  while "Progressive", "Socialist", "Communist" and "Marxist" DO all have different definitions, their desired end results are all exactly the same - a totalitarian regime.)

Granted, he struck a chord with the younger generation, but his supporters were mostly a thankfully small percentage of the newest voting generation, the narcissistic, self-absorbed whiners. Like you.

Taxes are absurdly low, we need real increases

No, they're not and no we don't. We need to cut spending. Anyone who has ever budgeted for a household or business could attest to that. It's only the leeches and "gimme" crowd that think that. Like you think.

The over 35 crowd have had everything handed to them on a silver platter

Yeah, those darn Boomers! I'm a Boomer, but I never had a silver platter or anything handed to me on one.  I DO know a few folks who fit that description, but that's true of any generation.

Add "Ageist" to your growing list of bigoted beliefs.

Seriously, sounds like your generation actually believed Harry Potter and that all the problems can be solved by a simple flick of the wand. Thank goodness it's not, because you pouting pusillanimous punks would be screaming "Avada Kedavra" at everyone with white hair or wrinkles. How 'bout instead of whining on message boards, you go actually DO something to change the world? Oh, I forget, that would require work and participation and actual interaction with others on a personal and REAL level, not moaning about it online or having to look up from your cell phones. Like you do.

There's a reason no one lives in no tax places like Wyoming and South Dakota.

From Wiki: Wyoming Population: 2015 (est) 586,107  I see, a half-million+ people is "no one". You think so few people live there because of no corporate tax or personal income tax and NOT because of the cold-as-hell winters? I'd say the fact that the U.S. govt. owns nearly half of Wyoming has something to do with it as well.

From Wiki: South Dakota Population 2015 (est) 858,469 Where exactly is the cut off that defines "no one"? According to you, it's not rural flight but because they're mostly Republican voting states and not nearly Socialist enough. Have I interpreted your insinuation correctly? Of course, both of those states are largely agricultural based without a lot of heavy industry, so they're not going to have a huge GDP OR population.

California has a surplus and a stable budget as a result of raising taxes on the rich.

Sorry, but this is from Breitbart, which I know you despise as a source, but they also post links to their information cited...just like Wikipedia, which you claim to be a reputable cite. (not saying it is or isn't, just that if you want us to accept Wiki, then you need to accept Breitbart or admit that you're the hypocrite most of the rest of us already realize.)

California Budget in Deficit as Silicon Valley Falters
From the site: "The bipartisan Legislative Analysts’ Office has announced that California’s 2015-16 personal income tax collection has fallen from a huge surplus to a $147 million deficit. The cause appears to be plummeting Silicon Valley capital gains and weakening tech employment."

Also, note the date of the article - Feb. 5th of this yr. YOUR assertion of "facts" was made on July 8th. So, what's your excuse? You had your head buried in the sand for five months, or didn't want to bring it up because it wouldn't fit your narrative? Personally, I think it's because you're a habitual liar. Using your reasoning on other matters, I'd have to say ALL Socialists are liars. To top that off, you went on with this:

Meanwhile states like Kansas and Louisiana which cut taxes on the rich dramatically are economic wasteland

Kansas "The Bureau of Economic Analysis estimates that the total GDP in 2008 was $122.7 billion, making it the United States's 32nd highest state by GDP." Hmmm. While it ranks in the bottom half of states in GDP, it's also a largely agricultural state and has also suffered from rural flight. It's also 34th in population, so being 32nd in GDP isn't all that bad with that considered.

The state is ranked #8 in both oil and gas production, but prices are down and that's certainly not helping the economics of that state. My own royalties have been horrible lately. Yep, a Texan who owns (part of) several gas wells...in Oklahoma, bless that brilliantly red state, so glad it's such a great neighbor! I wish OU wouldn't kick UT's butt so often in football, but I still love the state.

Louisiana 25th in population, 24th in GDP. Smack dab in the middle of all the states isn't exactly what I'd call an "economic wasteland".

Only a stupid person responds with ad hominum [sic] attacks rather then accept facts.

This one made me laugh...well "snicker", actually. You've done a fair amount of mud-slinging, against Republicans, Conservatives (and the two aren't mutually inclusive, you should know), Christians, southern states, etc. Pot, meet kettle.  You could call it "blow back" for years of abuse of Conservatives.  We now realize insults hurt you thin-skinned progressives.  You can dish it out, but you can't take it. 

Everyone pays for a service and that service provides it free of charge to everyone.

THIS one makes me shake my head and think "Did he really just say that?" If someone has to pay for a service, then how is it free? Honestly, do you really THINK before you type this stuff out? This is what I'd expect to find on a used wad of toilet paper, not coming from the brain of an "educated" "intellectual", self-admitted Socialist. Maybe what's on that TP is what you have for brains?

The minimum wage of a server is $2.15

Another "fact" that happens to be wrong: Tipped wage in the United States "The American federal government requires a wage of at least $2.13 per hour be paid to employees that receive at least $30 per month in tips. If wages and tips do not equal the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour during any pay period, the employer is required to increase cash wages to compensate. As of May 2012, the average hourly wage – including tips – for a restaurant employee in the United States that received tip income was $11.82."

Not off by much, only a couple of pennies, but that two cents represents the value of the "facts" you claim. I noticed you didn't bring up the compensation that's mandated by law.

Besides all that, it's always someone of YOUR generation who is a server or preparer who thinks it's fine to spit in someone's food, be it a poor tipper or someone of a different race or a cop or a soldier. Yep, you guys need to be rewarded for that, for sure....with a whack of a bat across the mouth, let you spit out a few teeth instead of phlegm on someone's burger.   Too violent?  OK, then...let's go around to any pool hall and empty the spittoons around all the domino tables, fill up a five gallon bucket and shove the spitter's head in it.  Do it a few times until they got the message that when you do something nasty as spitting in someone's food, then something nasty happens to the offender.

You don't want me to get started on what I'd do to taggers and graffitti "artists".

The Christian Taliban wants only the wealthy elite to go to college

What nonsense! "Christian Taliban" is an oxymoron. It's a pseudo hate phrase created by anti-Christian bigoted leftists and so-called "tolerant liberals". It's akin to saying "a carnivorous vegetarian" and is a sophomoric insult (Ironically, "sophomore" is thought to have derived from the Greek for "wise fool", another oxymoron, although in your case it's quite apt)

To state this clearer: There's no such thing. This. Doesn't. Exist.

(Disclaimer: Those aren't my words;  I saw them when I Googled the term, but liked them so much I decided to include them)

He's not the one who believes that a bearded sky fairy controls our lives and that fatal cancer in children is a sign that this sky fairy is good and we need to worship said monster.

While I certainly wouldn't argue against that some Christians are full of hate, IMHO they're really not Christians, not by deed or definition. Lumping them all together, however, is stereotyping and that in itself is a form of bigotry. While anecdotes and personal observations can't qualify as "facts", why is it the most hateful and unhinged people that I see posting in forums and message boards are atheists?

Honestly, why does a monument with the Ten Commandments on the courthouse lawn send you atheists into apoplectic fits?  Like it or not, they were a basis for American law and should be taken into historical significance if for no other reason.

Me? I'm an "optimistic agnostic", so I don't really have a dog in the fight except that some of my dearest friends are Christians and I won't stand for them to be slandered. They're all flawed humans, just like the rest of us (you included...especially you), but it is their QUEST for perfection, their attempt to walk in Jesus' footsteps that makes them Christians.  None I've ever known revel in others misfortunes and if they did, they wouldn't be Christians OR my friends.

While they might turn the other cheek if you insulted them, if I was there when you said it I'd snatch you up by your hair and try my best to break your nose. (and I'm fairly certain I could do it even though I bet I have four decades on you in age.) That wouldn't be warm rain falling on your face as you lay there stunned afterwards, either. Being pretty much of a heathen, I won't have to ask forgiveness from either you OR the "bearded sky fairy". I'll just need bail money, that's all. (that is, if you press charges, pretty much what wussies do after they get their butts kicked)

82% of the 47% are either old or are poor people in the red southern states that Trump won by massive margins, facts can't be disputed

There's not even any need to attempt to rebut this because, like most of your "facts", you pulled this out of your anal orifice. I not only disputed your "facts" up above, I destroyed them.

MSNBC is for center-right moderate conservatives like Obama or Hillary.

I'm pretty sure Socialists and sane people don't use the same dictionary and I'm not sure we even live on the same planet.  Good grief. Apparently according to you anyone who is a fraction of an inch to the right of Mao is "center-right".

The Obama economy is far better than either Bush economy or the Reagan economy this time in their terms

Uh, not exactly true- the charts I saw showed "Obama's economy" to be below Reagan's and only slightly better than Bush's at the same point in time.  Other than public confidence in the Administration, the Federal Reserve has much more impact.   Some presidential policies can take years before seeing an effect and good or bad, the person in the Oval Office down the road gets credit...or the blame.

Presidents, just like football coaches, can make a blunder and lose the game, or call a great play and win. Like a coach's ball team, though, there are more players involved in the game, ditto for those in the game of politics. Just like a coach, a President often gets the blame for things out of his control and often takes the credit for things others did.

You might want to take a look at the majorities in the House of Representatives during both good and bad economic times. They are, after all, the branch with the authority to initiate tax increases or spending proposals. It might surprise you (IOW, not fit your narrative) and at the very least it would verify there's more than enough blame to go around.

The top tax rate in the 1950's was 90%. If only we could have real politicians advocating reasonable rates like that

Fewer millionaires and billionaires back then, too. I hope a LOT of Democrat politicians (and a goodly number of Republicans) take up that cause. It would be lovely to watch their political careers come to a screeching halt. They'd self-term limit.

...a polygraph .... is so ineffective and prone to error that it isn't admissible in court.

Polygraph tests are admissible in certain states and in federal court at the discretion of the trial judge. States like California, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and Florida allow the tests if everyone stipulates to their use and agrees to admit the results into evidence.

Michigan voters elected and re-elected a dictator that intentionally poisoned an entire city.

Definition of a dictator: a ruler who wields absolute authority.  If Snyder was a dictator, then why did he even need to run for office?  Another one of your totally absurd statements.

From Wiki: Flint water crisis "Governor Snyder issued an apology to citizens and promised to fix the problem, and then sent $28 million to Flint for supplies, medical care and infrastructure upgrades, and later budgeted an additional $30 million to Flint that will give water bill credits of 65% for residents and 20% for businesses. Another $165 million for lead pipe replacements and water bill reimbursements was approved by Governor Snyder on June 29, 2016."

I'd like to know how he planned to poison only those voters who voted against him and not the ones who did.  I guess if he was a dictator like your idol Stalin, killing millions in order to weed out the few who opposed him would be the thing to do.

Honestly, your hyperbole is ludicrous.  I've told you a hundred million billion times to not exaggerate!

This being the south, they will most likely only ask the welfare office about black winners while they will give white winners the money no questions asked.

"Most likely". I see what you did there, added an "out" in opinion form. There's no rebuttal to that, but neither is there any truth. It's just a hateful, bigoted thing to say...but why am I not surprised since it comes from you? All the hate you aim towards others is merely projection on your part. It's easy to see you're a self-loathing, white-guilt infested bigoted liar...and a Commie wannabe, to boot.  You think that if America is transformed into your Socialist dream world, YOU'LL be one of the privileged few, ruling the plebes and instead of having a dacha on the Black Sea like the Soviet elite, yours will be in the Catskills. 

So, I'd say "Shame on you!" for lying, but I hate that phrase, it's something the Democrats love to fling at Republicans. You really need to slink on out of here, have Todd delete your account because I HAVE just shamed you in front of God (or that "bearded sky fairy", whichever you prefer) and everyone. I've exposed you for the liar you are.  We'll see now if you apologize for your lies or continue on with them.

There's one more Progressive lie that needs to be addressed:  It's not that Conservatives dislike higher education, nothing could be farther from the truth, but rather that Progressives have disdain for blue collar workers, the ones who actually produce goods and build things by the sweat of their brows. Well, those workers who are Conservative, anyway.
I'm sorry that you have so much student loan debt, but you could have paid ME to teach you, giving me just 40 grand out of the 80 you owe and got twice the education.  Don't believe me?  Look how I schooled you with this post!

Then again, Judge Smails would have given you some FREE advice:

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I point out that Bernie is a centrist, all you do is laugh

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/manifesto2015/ConservativeManifesto2015.pdf 

The UK Conservative Party Platform is nearly identical to what Bernie has been talking about. 

I call Bernie a centrist because America is more right wing than grown up countries like the UK but he's NOT left wing in any way shape or form. 

Never called for banning of all guns, just have sensible regulations like Australia.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 7, 2016

"That was an overstepping beyond what i know."

That pretty much describes EVERYTHING you opine upon.  The trouble with your posts is that you give an opinion and expect everyone to support it as fact...and the "facts " you pull out of thin air (or out of that smelly place I mentioned in my "too long" post) are anything but facts. 

Typical of your stereotyping, you take ONE proposal in ONE state and ascribe it to every other state..well, "red" states, anyway.   It's easy to see your "context".

Face it, you were wrong on every point I brought up, esp. in regards to your "facts".

You say Christian Taliban don't exist

I show you proof that they do

You call it stereotyping

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 7, 2016

King, big of you to back step a bit and consider you may have slipped up on some points.
Your post here shows some humility. I like sully, you've been hard on her but sully stands up
very, very well for herself and that's part of why I like her, besides, she's always been nice to
me. Don't squelch yourself, it's a discussion forum. Everyone has a different opinion, I don't
agree with you on some things but you know how you feel and just like everyone else, have
the option of posting what you think. Maybe you'll come around just in time to cast your vote
for Trump...or make a mistake in the voting box LOL You are hard to like sometimes, but
you're not totally gone yet...and even if your views are off-base, you have shown some intellect
in your responses, subject matter aside, you are not a dummy.

Cheers I know my politics are quite on the far end of the spectrum but that doesn't mean we can't get along. I joined LP because i want to get better as a lottery player, and while i'm happy to express my political views, we should all remember that we're here to get rich or die trying.

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Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 7, 2016

You say Christian Taliban don't exist

I show you proof that they do

You call it stereotyping

That wasn't proof, not by a long shot.  That N.C. case was about two representatives who introduced a bill in response to an ACLU lawsuit that was trying to ban a prayer before the Rowan Co. commissioners meeting.  Three other reps. signed on as co-sponsors for a total of five...out of 120 members of the General Assembly.

Stereotyping is to believe unfairly that all people or things with a particular characteristic are the same.  That's what you do all the time.  You take five men, 4% of the state representatives, and not only paint the other 96% with the same bigoted brush, you do it to all Christians.

Admitting you're a bigot would be the first step towards curing that particular character flaw you have.  We'll work on your pathological lying at a later date. 

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Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 7, 2016

I point out that Bernie is a centrist, all you do is laugh

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/manifesto2015/ConservativeManifesto2015.pdf 

The UK Conservative Party Platform is nearly identical to what Bernie has been talking about. 

I call Bernie a centrist because America is more right wing than grown up countries like the UK but he's NOT left wing in any way shape or form. 

Never called for banning of all guns, just have sensible regulations like Australia.

I laugh because the notion that Sanders is anything but a Communist is laughable.

"Sensible regulations like Australia"?  You can't compare our Constitutional right to bear arms with Australia because they never had the same right.

"Grown up countries"? Get back to me on that when YOU grow up.

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
1 Corinthians 13:11

Even the Bible has hope for the likes of you, Derp.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

27 pages and 3 months to go before the election.  Any money says we'll hit 100 pages by then.  I caught a story today about that uranium scientist executed by Iran.  Could be a result of Hillary's unsecured emails.  Its that's true...She will go to prison.

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Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Aug 7, 2016

Dang, Mike, that was impressive.

I have my moments, rcb.  To be honest, it was low-hanging fruit.

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Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Aug 7, 2016

Awesome post!

Thank you!

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Quote: Originally posted by Unluckyone on Aug 7, 2016

After reading your entire post, I am left speechless but do want to thank you for all your research on debunking these clueless lefties. Very well laid out! Cheers

You're most certainly welcome. I simply couldn't let the lies continue.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 7, 2016

I laugh because the notion that Sanders is anything but a Communist is laughable.

"Sensible regulations like Australia"?  You can't compare our Constitutional right to bear arms with Australia because they never had the same right.

"Grown up countries"? Get back to me on that when YOU grow up.

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
1 Corinthians 13:11

Even the Bible has hope for the likes of you, Derp.

 Mike,

Didn't we win a war against that "grown up" country? Didn't we save the "grown up" country and many others during WW 2?

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Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 7, 2016

Mike- All I can say is WOW! You put an awful lot of time and effort into your response and I want to praise you for that! I have neither the time or patience to construct a rebuttal to such nonsense that is being displayed by some of these leftist individuals.

Props to you Mike!

Thanks, Drenick.   Truth always defeats the forces of evil.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 7, 2016

 Mike,

Didn't we win a war against that "grown up" country? Didn't we save the "grown up" country and many others during WW 2?

Hey Artist...I read your recent posts and read you're going to vote for Jill Stein.  Did you know her stance on the military?  She wants to cut the military budget by 30%.  If that were to happen, its almost a guarantee, we'll be involved in a major war, maybe nuclear, in the very near future.  There's only one reason we weren't attacked by now, its because we were strong.  So what's more important?  Being green or being dead?

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Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 7, 2016

 Mike,

Didn't we win a war against that "grown up" country? Didn't we save the "grown up" country and many others during WW 2?

Two wars, actually.

I'd agree with the second question up to a point.  We can't forget the contributions of glorious Mother Russia, what with her sacrificing millions as cannon fodder for the German army, marching them unarmed into the teeth of the Nazi guns, using men to clear mine fields by forcing them at bayonet to lead the charge.  Of course, that's the Socialist side of the spectrum that has such respect for human life.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 7, 2016

Hey Artist...I read your recent posts and read you're going to vote for Jill Stein.  Did you know her stance on the military?  She wants to cut the military budget by 30%.  If that were to happen, its almost a guarantee, we'll be involved in a major war, maybe nuclear, in the very near future.  There's only one reason we weren't attacked by now, its because we were strong.  So what's more important?  Being green or being dead?

 I would bet against that being the case.  I believe Ms. Artist is a Trump supporter.  I think Derp has come out for the Green Party, maybe it was in a reply to him where you saw that.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 7, 2016

 I would bet against that being the case.  I believe Ms. Artist is a Trump supporter.  I think Derp has come out for the Green Party, maybe it was in a reply to him where you saw that.

Thank you. He is confusing me with Derp? Omg. Lol Being rather green in my lifestyle and being a vegetarian,  does not equate with Jill Stein. I don't discourage voting for Stein however if you are on the fence since those votes tend to come from Hillary's side.

 

And Greenbay, I live and work in the city that will likely get nuked first. I have had more dreams on this than you will ever know. We are almost out of time.

Trump 2016

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 6, 2016

No, KingofDerp, facts aren't "borderline insanity" but someone would have to be crazy to believe the ones you've spewed forth.

You challenged:  Then do it, show us something this (that is?)  contradictory or factually incorrect.

I went through your posts and picked out your "greatest hits" to focus upon.  "They didn't have a good beat, Dick, and were hard to dance to!"  Sorry, showing my age.  I think they're in reverse order for the most part, most recent to earliest, although there are a few I combined under the same topic. 

Who cares? They're all a crock, anyway.

I want to preface my rebuttal with how I want to point out I have tried to avoid using the term "Liberal", especially as a pejorative and have instead opted for "Progressive".  Classical liberalism makes up a large part of my own personal political beliefs.

The next several come from the same vomitus in a single post.

Conservatives and Republicans oppose the minimum wage

No, they don't.  A Pew research poll from a few years back said half of Republicans support a raise in min. wage.  I've since seen other more recent polls that show a majority of Republicans favor an increase,  but not to the levels the Democrats propose.

As has been explained to you in here, min. wage was always intended to be a starting wage for people entering the work force, not a perpetual one. I've read that, in McDonalds case, it wouldn't raise the price of a burger by much. That's probably true in some other areas, too, but I'd also bet it will reduce the numbers of those entry level employees hired. McD's is already working on automation and I bet other businesses will follow suit because labor costs are usually 70% of any business's overhead. Sure, raise it if you must, but it HAS to be gradual or the wage hike will have some adverse repercussions, a ripple effect which would turn into a tidal wave and wreak havoc with our economy. 

That's one of the most fundamental differences between Progressives and Conservatives; a Conservative says "Wait a minute, let's not be too hasty, let's think about it, discuss it before doing anything." Progressives are like spoiled children, wanting something not just NOW, but yesterday and they hold their breath and stomp their widdle feet until the adults (Conservatives) give in.

support homophobia

Sure, you have some religious types who were anti-gay marriage, dislike the gay "lifestyle", but at least they're steadfast in their opposition while many Democrats only switched when they saw which way the political wind was blowing. Me? I'm a conservative small L libertarian and I had no objection other than semantics. Marriage has always been defined as a religious union between a man and a woman. (and "gay" meant happy) On the civil rights side, I saw nothing wrong with civil unions, but my libertarian bent makes me chafe that govt. has ANYTHING to do with marriage to begin with.

support women dying from illegal abortions etc etc, it's pretty clear which side of the spectrum has concern for human life

Ah, the "coat hanger" argument. Doesn't fly, Mommie Dearest. I want to say "most", but instead will say "many" conservatives would allow for abortion in cases of rape, incest and life of the mother. "Back alley abortions" account for only 200 at most each year, as opposed to the nearly million legal abortions. It's estimated that there have been well over 50 million abortions since Roe v. Wade. That's a staggering number, but what I find sickening is how abortion is celebrated as a woman's right to choose, yet nothing is mentioned about the unborn's right to life, their civil rights being terminated along with the pregnancy. Of course, since the baby is "only a lump of tissue", then they have no rights, right?

All that said, it's the law but there's also nothing illegal about people being against the practice. (unless the only opinion that counts is yours and those like-minded, huh?) There is a need for regulation, though, because it is a medical procedure, after all.  Even a transgender person is required to have counseling before surgery.
"Up to the point of viability!" is the cry of abortion supporters, a reluctant sop to those who would reasonably restrict abortion to before the last trimester.  Why stop there, why not do "post-birth" abortions? I mean...a baby can't live w/out care from the mother (and/or father) for several years after being born. Good grief, I know teenagers and grown men who couldn't survive on their own for more than a week w/out someone taking care of them.

No, let's extend that time to at least a year after birth. That way you Progressives can get rid of the mentally challenged, the crippled, the wrong sex, the ones that are unattractive...just name the defect, and terminate it and the "host" that carries it. A financial burden?  Throw it in the trash. Ruin your figure?  Abort the "lump".  Simply can't be bothered?  Throw the baby out with the bathwater!  We all know that's what you Progressives want, what your leftist heroes of the past did. THAT'S the "side of the spectrum" that has no concern for human life.

Not long ago I read an article that called for climate change deniers to be killed. That's the Progressive way, right? How many did Stalin and Mao, other leftists, murder only because they dared to speak out? Do the research on THAT and get back to me about "which spectrum" values human life more.

Elect a Leftist, or even a centrist like Sanders and you'd get very different results.

Sanders, a centrist? Bwwaaaaa!

The most extreme cases of political correctness are in the right, not the left

Did I spell "Bwwaaaa!" correctly above? That comes close to the most idiotic thing you've ever said, not to mention the biggest whopper.

Davy Crockett existed, the hat did not at the time. Also him and a few others were captured alive and executed.

Oops, your beloved Wiki says otherwise: Coonskin cap  I won't post the information, but I want you to read it with your own lyin' eyes.  Needless to say, the cap existed long before The Battle of the Alamo.

(I know a little bit about coons because my pop used to hunt them when I was just a little guy.  He must have started feeling guilty about it because later when I was a young man, he'd bring home abandoned raccoon kits and we'd raise them.  One used to love to ride on his shoulder while he drove around checking his leases.  Here's a short lesson in coon anatomy, just to lighten up this post a bit)

I see that you're choosing to believe the Billy Bob Thornton movie version instead of The Duke's. Fine by me, but it serves as proof you prefer to get your history from Hollywood movies instead of books.  Once again, from Wiki: Davy Crockett "All that is certain (my emphasis) about the fate of David Crockett is that he died fighting at the Alamo on the morning of March 6, 1836, at age 49."

Being a Texan and lover of history, I already knew that the Billy Bob movie version ending came from a Mexican officer's journal, a man named la Peña. Due to the fact that no other manuscript has ever been uncovered corroborating la Peña's account, it's not been accepted as anything close to being factual and most historical scholars think it a hoax. If you'll read the Wiki article, you'll see that Alamo survivors of the battle stated something altogether differently in regards to how Crockett died.

I bet you get your "facts" about climate change from An Inconvenient Truth, your "facts" about the Kennedy assassination from Oliver Stone's JFK and your "facts" about the Vietnam War from Apocalypse Now. Am I right or am I right?  Hooray for Hollywood, passing lies off as truth, glorifying the worst of our culture (and contributing to its decline), ridiculing any other opinions but their own...warping idiot's minds for a century!

Oh please, pretty please bring up Gasland and how hydraulic fracturing (fracking) is bad. I'll blow you out of the not-burning water with FACTS, Jack.   On second thought, never mind;  I'm sure you'll attempt to use "facts" that are anything but.  I've spent more than enough time on exposing you as it is. 

Anyway...you damyankees need to tend to your own history books, leave ours alone. Sure, we Texans like our historical heroic myths and sometimes our text books contain the wrong information, but sweep around your own door first.

Live off welfare like 90% of Southern Republicans

and this one:

70% of the 47% are elderly and Republicans in the conferacy.[sic] You old Southern Reps are the laziest and most ignorant leeches in the world.

I've done a LOT of reading about the meme that "Blue states support Red states". First of all, the 90% figure needs to be flushed down the toilet, just like many other of your "facts". The "Blue vs. Red" division needs to be stabbed in the heart, because it's not only more complicated than that, it's also a lie.

If you ever take the time to look at red/blue spots by voting demographics, you'll see that the U.S. is more "purple" than simply red or blue. Makes sense if you look at how the last several presidential elections went, but then again, if you'll look closer, you'll see that many states that voted for the Democrat presidential candidate have a majority of Republicans in their state houses as well as represented in Congress and vice versa in others. Others, not all.

So, saying a state is either red or blue depends upon how they voted in the last Presidential election is a case of mislabeling. Except for blue states such as NY and Mass., several others in the northeast and on the west coast, some so-called red states like Florida have flipped back and forth.

Then too, just like any other analysis of statistics, one must "drill down" and consider other numbers and variables. For instance, Texas is a "red state", right? Well, look at some of the largest population density regions, such as the Valley and Houston, etc. They're solidly "Blue" and other large Texas cities are "light Blue". Large urban centers vote Democrat, that's a fact. Consider New Orleans in Louisiana, Atlanta in Georgia, other huge cities in red states. They vote Democrat.  Again, that's a fact, look it up. 

A Pew study and poll showed Democrats were responsible for 60+% of the benefits taken.  I've seen other articles claim the figure is closer to 80% in some categories.   Consider the huge numbers of Democrats in those urban centers, it's obvious that it's not Southern Republicans taking the welfare, it's that they are supporting the Democrat voters - the "leeches" - in their states. 

I'm sure you'll try to come back with social security figures or how much each state gets in Federal dollars vs. what they pay back, etc., but that argument is often made by misleading statistics or over-simplifying them or not accounting that - for example - that many "red" states have more military bases (pork projects from past Democratic Representatives) and that "red" states like Florida and Arizona have a larger than average elderly population using their PAID FOR benefits like SSI and Medicare.   Add in Federal land in "red" states that have a big influx of federal dollars (many Western states)  and even that equation changes which would prove you even more wrong. 

The US has no gun control laws

You mean I can go buy a machine gun? Wow, I always thought I had to have an expensive Federal license, be investigated, pay a yearly fee, be subject to visits by the ATF to make sure I still have possession of the weapon and all that!

If that's the case, I want a Thompson (Tommy gun) , you 'n me can be just like Bonny and Clyde (I'll be Clyde, of course).  No, scratch that, I want a 50-caliber to go hunting with, we got some big jackrabbits here in Texas.  No, no, I want one of those Warthog 30mm Gatling guns to mount on top of my house so I can shoot the speeders as they whiz by.

Biggest lie you've told and that's saying' sumpthin'. Of COURSE we have gun control laws. Did you type that with a straight face or was it intended to be a lie, Mr. Goebbels?

Yeah, let's ban guns, bans worked so well during Prohibition and with our current drug laws. 

I hope you're the one who comes to take my few firearms away. Just be warned that I'll give you the ammunition first, very quickly...a little faster than the speed of sound, in fact. 

If you want to take away my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, then you're a traitor and need to have your citizenship terminated...with "extreme prejudice".

Bernie is a moderate centrist who flip flops between the center-left and center-right.

No, he's not a "moderate centrist". If he were, he'd be a middle-of-the-road Republican, a RINO or at best, a conservative Democrat (a rare bird, the numbers of which would rival those of the passenger pigeon.) He says he's a Democratic Socialist, just using a word like "Democratic"  trying to disguise his true affiliation - Communist.  He ran as an Independent to further disguise his true ideology.  He aligned himself with the Democrats only for relevancy...but that the Democrats allowed him to run on their ticket speaks volumes about THEIR true ideology.

(and let's get something else straight;  while "Progressive", "Socialist", "Communist" and "Marxist" DO all have different definitions, their desired end results are all exactly the same - a totalitarian regime.)

Granted, he struck a chord with the younger generation, but his supporters were mostly a thankfully small percentage of the newest voting generation, the narcissistic, self-absorbed whiners. Like you.

Taxes are absurdly low, we need real increases

No, they're not and no we don't. We need to cut spending. Anyone who has ever budgeted for a household or business could attest to that. It's only the leeches and "gimme" crowd that think that. Like you think.

The over 35 crowd have had everything handed to them on a silver platter

Yeah, those darn Boomers! I'm a Boomer, but I never had a silver platter or anything handed to me on one.  I DO know a few folks who fit that description, but that's true of any generation.

Add "Ageist" to your growing list of bigoted beliefs.

Seriously, sounds like your generation actually believed Harry Potter and that all the problems can be solved by a simple flick of the wand. Thank goodness it's not, because you pouting pusillanimous punks would be screaming "Avada Kedavra" at everyone with white hair or wrinkles. How 'bout instead of whining on message boards, you go actually DO something to change the world? Oh, I forget, that would require work and participation and actual interaction with others on a personal and REAL level, not moaning about it online or having to look up from your cell phones. Like you do.

There's a reason no one lives in no tax places like Wyoming and South Dakota.

From Wiki: Wyoming Population: 2015 (est) 586,107  I see, a half-million+ people is "no one". You think so few people live there because of no corporate tax or personal income tax and NOT because of the cold-as-hell winters? I'd say the fact that the U.S. govt. owns nearly half of Wyoming has something to do with it as well.

From Wiki: South Dakota Population 2015 (est) 858,469 Where exactly is the cut off that defines "no one"? According to you, it's not rural flight but because they're mostly Republican voting states and not nearly Socialist enough. Have I interpreted your insinuation correctly? Of course, both of those states are largely agricultural based without a lot of heavy industry, so they're not going to have a huge GDP OR population.

California has a surplus and a stable budget as a result of raising taxes on the rich.

Sorry, but this is from Breitbart, which I know you despise as a source, but they also post links to their information cited...just like Wikipedia, which you claim to be a reputable cite. (not saying it is or isn't, just that if you want us to accept Wiki, then you need to accept Breitbart or admit that you're the hypocrite most of the rest of us already realize.)

California Budget in Deficit as Silicon Valley Falters
From the site: "The bipartisan Legislative Analysts’ Office has announced that California’s 2015-16 personal income tax collection has fallen from a huge surplus to a $147 million deficit. The cause appears to be plummeting Silicon Valley capital gains and weakening tech employment."

Also, note the date of the article - Feb. 5th of this yr. YOUR assertion of "facts" was made on July 8th. So, what's your excuse? You had your head buried in the sand for five months, or didn't want to bring it up because it wouldn't fit your narrative? Personally, I think it's because you're a habitual liar. Using your reasoning on other matters, I'd have to say ALL Socialists are liars. To top that off, you went on with this:

Meanwhile states like Kansas and Louisiana which cut taxes on the rich dramatically are economic wasteland

Kansas "The Bureau of Economic Analysis estimates that the total GDP in 2008 was $122.7 billion, making it the United States's 32nd highest state by GDP." Hmmm. While it ranks in the bottom half of states in GDP, it's also a largely agricultural state and has also suffered from rural flight. It's also 34th in population, so being 32nd in GDP isn't all that bad with that considered.

The state is ranked #8 in both oil and gas production, but prices are down and that's certainly not helping the economics of that state. My own royalties have been horrible lately. Yep, a Texan who owns (part of) several gas wells...in Oklahoma, bless that brilliantly red state, so glad it's such a great neighbor! I wish OU wouldn't kick UT's butt so often in football, but I still love the state.

Louisiana 25th in population, 24th in GDP. Smack dab in the middle of all the states isn't exactly what I'd call an "economic wasteland".

Only a stupid person responds with ad hominum [sic] attacks rather then accept facts.

This one made me laugh...well "snicker", actually. You've done a fair amount of mud-slinging, against Republicans, Conservatives (and the two aren't mutually inclusive, you should know), Christians, southern states, etc. Pot, meet kettle.  You could call it "blow back" for years of abuse of Conservatives.  We now realize insults hurt you thin-skinned progressives.  You can dish it out, but you can't take it. 

Everyone pays for a service and that service provides it free of charge to everyone.

THIS one makes me shake my head and think "Did he really just say that?" If someone has to pay for a service, then how is it free? Honestly, do you really THINK before you type this stuff out? This is what I'd expect to find on a used wad of toilet paper, not coming from the brain of an "educated" "intellectual", self-admitted Socialist. Maybe what's on that TP is what you have for brains?

The minimum wage of a server is $2.15

Another "fact" that happens to be wrong: Tipped wage in the United States "The American federal government requires a wage of at least $2.13 per hour be paid to employees that receive at least $30 per month in tips. If wages and tips do not equal the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour during any pay period, the employer is required to increase cash wages to compensate. As of May 2012, the average hourly wage – including tips – for a restaurant employee in the United States that received tip income was $11.82."

Not off by much, only a couple of pennies, but that two cents represents the value of the "facts" you claim. I noticed you didn't bring up the compensation that's mandated by law.

Besides all that, it's always someone of YOUR generation who is a server or preparer who thinks it's fine to spit in someone's food, be it a poor tipper or someone of a different race or a cop or a soldier. Yep, you guys need to be rewarded for that, for sure....with a whack of a bat across the mouth, let you spit out a few teeth instead of phlegm on someone's burger.   Too violent?  OK, then...let's go around to any pool hall and empty the spittoons around all the domino tables, fill up a five gallon bucket and shove the spitter's head in it.  Do it a few times until they got the message that when you do something nasty as spitting in someone's food, then something nasty happens to the offender.

You don't want me to get started on what I'd do to taggers and graffitti "artists".

The Christian Taliban wants only the wealthy elite to go to college

What nonsense! "Christian Taliban" is an oxymoron. It's a pseudo hate phrase created by anti-Christian bigoted leftists and so-called "tolerant liberals". It's akin to saying "a carnivorous vegetarian" and is a sophomoric insult (Ironically, "sophomore" is thought to have derived from the Greek for "wise fool", another oxymoron, although in your case it's quite apt)

To state this clearer: There's no such thing. This. Doesn't. Exist.

(Disclaimer: Those aren't my words;  I saw them when I Googled the term, but liked them so much I decided to include them)

He's not the one who believes that a bearded sky fairy controls our lives and that fatal cancer in children is a sign that this sky fairy is good and we need to worship said monster.

While I certainly wouldn't argue against that some Christians are full of hate, IMHO they're really not Christians, not by deed or definition. Lumping them all together, however, is stereotyping and that in itself is a form of bigotry. While anecdotes and personal observations can't qualify as "facts", why is it the most hateful and unhinged people that I see posting in forums and message boards are atheists?

Honestly, why does a monument with the Ten Commandments on the courthouse lawn send you atheists into apoplectic fits?  Like it or not, they were a basis for American law and should be taken into historical significance if for no other reason.

Me? I'm an "optimistic agnostic", so I don't really have a dog in the fight except that some of my dearest friends are Christians and I won't stand for them to be slandered. They're all flawed humans, just like the rest of us (you included...especially you), but it is their QUEST for perfection, their attempt to walk in Jesus' footsteps that makes them Christians.  None I've ever known revel in others misfortunes and if they did, they wouldn't be Christians OR my friends.

While they might turn the other cheek if you insulted them, if I was there when you said it I'd snatch you up by your hair and try my best to break your nose. (and I'm fairly certain I could do it even though I bet I have four decades on you in age.) That wouldn't be warm rain falling on your face as you lay there stunned afterwards, either. Being pretty much of a heathen, I won't have to ask forgiveness from either you OR the "bearded sky fairy". I'll just need bail money, that's all. (that is, if you press charges, pretty much what wussies do after they get their butts kicked)

82% of the 47% are either old or are poor people in the red southern states that Trump won by massive margins, facts can't be disputed

There's not even any need to attempt to rebut this because, like most of your "facts", you pulled this out of your anal orifice. I not only disputed your "facts" up above, I destroyed them.

MSNBC is for center-right moderate conservatives like Obama or Hillary.

I'm pretty sure Socialists and sane people don't use the same dictionary and I'm not sure we even live on the same planet.  Good grief. Apparently according to you anyone who is a fraction of an inch to the right of Mao is "center-right".

The Obama economy is far better than either Bush economy or the Reagan economy this time in their terms

Uh, not exactly true- the charts I saw showed "Obama's economy" to be below Reagan's and only slightly better than Bush's at the same point in time.  Other than public confidence in the Administration, the Federal Reserve has much more impact.   Some presidential policies can take years before seeing an effect and good or bad, the person in the Oval Office down the road gets credit...or the blame.

Presidents, just like football coaches, can make a blunder and lose the game, or call a great play and win. Like a coach's ball team, though, there are more players involved in the game, ditto for those in the game of politics. Just like a coach, a President often gets the blame for things out of his control and often takes the credit for things others did.

You might want to take a look at the majorities in the House of Representatives during both good and bad economic times. They are, after all, the branch with the authority to initiate tax increases or spending proposals. It might surprise you (IOW, not fit your narrative) and at the very least it would verify there's more than enough blame to go around.

The top tax rate in the 1950's was 90%. If only we could have real politicians advocating reasonable rates like that

Fewer millionaires and billionaires back then, too. I hope a LOT of Democrat politicians (and a goodly number of Republicans) take up that cause. It would be lovely to watch their political careers come to a screeching halt. They'd self-term limit.

...a polygraph .... is so ineffective and prone to error that it isn't admissible in court.

Polygraph tests are admissible in certain states and in federal court at the discretion of the trial judge. States like California, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and Florida allow the tests if everyone stipulates to their use and agrees to admit the results into evidence.

Michigan voters elected and re-elected a dictator that intentionally poisoned an entire city.

Definition of a dictator: a ruler who wields absolute authority.  If Snyder was a dictator, then why did he even need to run for office?  Another one of your totally absurd statements.

From Wiki: Flint water crisis "Governor Snyder issued an apology to citizens and promised to fix the problem, and then sent $28 million to Flint for supplies, medical care and infrastructure upgrades, and later budgeted an additional $30 million to Flint that will give water bill credits of 65% for residents and 20% for businesses. Another $165 million for lead pipe replacements and water bill reimbursements was approved by Governor Snyder on June 29, 2016."

I'd like to know how he planned to poison only those voters who voted against him and not the ones who did.  I guess if he was a dictator like your idol Stalin, killing millions in order to weed out the few who opposed him would be the thing to do.

Honestly, your hyperbole is ludicrous.  I've told you a hundred million billion times to not exaggerate!

This being the south, they will most likely only ask the welfare office about black winners while they will give white winners the money no questions asked.

"Most likely". I see what you did there, added an "out" in opinion form. There's no rebuttal to that, but neither is there any truth. It's just a hateful, bigoted thing to say...but why am I not surprised since it comes from you? All the hate you aim towards others is merely projection on your part. It's easy to see you're a self-loathing, white-guilt infested bigoted liar...and a Commie wannabe, to boot.  You think that if America is transformed into your Socialist dream world, YOU'LL be one of the privileged few, ruling the plebes and instead of having a dacha on the Black Sea like the Soviet elite, yours will be in the Catskills. 

So, I'd say "Shame on you!" for lying, but I hate that phrase, it's something the Democrats love to fling at Republicans. You really need to slink on out of here, have Todd delete your account because I HAVE just shamed you in front of God (or that "bearded sky fairy", whichever you prefer) and everyone. I've exposed you for the liar you are.  We'll see now if you apologize for your lies or continue on with them.

There's one more Progressive lie that needs to be addressed:  It's not that Conservatives dislike higher education, nothing could be farther from the truth, but rather that Progressives have disdain for blue collar workers, the ones who actually produce goods and build things by the sweat of their brows. Well, those workers who are Conservative, anyway.
I'm sorry that you have so much student loan debt, but you could have paid ME to teach you, giving me just 40 grand out of the 80 you owe and got twice the education.  Don't believe me?  Look how I schooled you with this post!

Then again, Judge Smails would have given you some FREE advice:

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https://youtu.be/c9kI_rAFuKA?t=114

Southern Republicans are the biggest leeches in the world. 

You support a Nationalist fascist (Nationalist Fascism isn't nazism, two very different things)  and you have the nerve to call left wing ideologies tolitarian?  Communism explicitly advocates for a utopic fairy land that has no government at all, and you are so ignorant that you think that's tolitarian. Marxism advocates for workers to control the factories, the little opposite of a tolitarian overload (Boss) who controls everything. You try to act like you have the slightest idea about these concepts, but you don't. Marxism and Communism are fairy tales, just like pure capitalism. Youreally should change your usernsame to Somali pirate, because that;'s what you want America to look like.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 7, 2016

I laugh because the notion that Sanders is anything but a Communist is laughable.

"Sensible regulations like Australia"?  You can't compare our Constitutional right to bear arms with Australia because they never had the same right.

"Grown up countries"? Get back to me on that when YOU grow up.

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
1 Corinthians 13:11

Even the Bible has hope for the likes of you, Derp.

Go over to Scandinavia or Britain or even Canada and Bernie would be a leading member of the right wing opposition. To call him anything but a centrist is an insult to those of us who are actually on the left side of the spectrum.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 7, 2016

Hey Artist...I read your recent posts and read you're going to vote for Jill Stein.  Did you know her stance on the military?  She wants to cut the military budget by 30%.  If that were to happen, its almost a guarantee, we'll be involved in a major war, maybe nuclear, in the very near future.  There's only one reason we weren't attacked by now, its because we were strong.  So what's more important?  Being green or being dead?

The US spends more on the military than the next 23 countries COMBINED. 30% cut sounds very good. US Defense spending was pretty high on 9/11, didn't really help with preventing an attack. After Sandy and the full on mental illness shown by the Republicans on the Sandy bill and the UN treaty  http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/05/us/despite-doles-wish-gop-rejects-disabilities-treaty.html?_r=0 

I will NEVER vote for a conservative irregardless of which color and letter is next to their name.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 7, 2016

https://youtu.be/c9kI_rAFuKA?t=114

Southern Republicans are the biggest leeches in the world. 

You support a Nationalist fascist (Nationalist Fascism isn't nazism, two very different things)  and you have the nerve to call left wing ideologies tolitarian?  Communism explicitly advocates for a utopic fairy land that has no government at all, and you are so ignorant that you think that's tolitarian. Marxism advocates for workers to control the factories, the little opposite of a tolitarian overload (Boss) who controls everything. You try to act like you have the slightest idea about these concepts, but you don't. Marxism and Communism are fairy tales, just like pure capitalism. Youreally should change your usernsame to Somali pirate, because that;'s what you want America to look like.

Someone has his panties in a bunch, yank them out of your A$$ and shut up!

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 7, 2016

The US spends more on the military than the next 23 countries COMBINED. 30% cut sounds very good. US Defense spending was pretty high on 9/11, didn't really help with preventing an attack. After Sandy and the full on mental illness shown by the Republicans on the Sandy bill and the UN treaty  http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/05/us/despite-doles-wish-gop-rejects-disabilities-treaty.html?_r=0 

I will NEVER vote for a conservative irregardless of which color and letter is next to their name.

"The US spends more on military than the next 23 countries COMBINED."

I have read some outlandish statements from you but this takes the cake. I am sorry to tell you this but you are beyond help.

MaximumMillions

http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2011/06/military-spending

Not quite 23 though.

Well, they have bigger ground to cover.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 7, 2016

"The US spends more on military than the next 23 countries COMBINED."

I have read some outlandish statements from you but this takes the cake. I am sorry to tell you this but you are beyond help.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/military-spending-cuts/u-s-military-spending-dwarfs-rest-world-n37461

I was basing the 23 nations numbers off early 2000's data when the US did the 2 wars so my mistake on that. It's still absurdly gigantic though.

Romancandle's avatarRomancandle

So you folks have beat the snot outta King... Congrats.

BUT... Why Trump? 

Facts please...

What's his plan  other than hiring lots of smart "billionaires" to run our country?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Romancandle on Aug 7, 2016

So you folks have beat the snot outta King... Congrats.

BUT... Why Trump? 

Facts please...

What's his plan  other than hiring lots of smart "billionaires" to run our country?

Because Hillary is a lying deceitful person.

Hillary is just more of the same old, same old, politician.

It's time for real change. Not another politician, but someone who knows how to get things done, who can not be bought or controlled by anyone or "a party".

Electing Hillary is electing the same kind of politician, and expecting different results.

Insanity.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 7, 2016

https://youtu.be/c9kI_rAFuKA?t=114

Southern Republicans are the biggest leeches in the world. 

You support a Nationalist fascist (Nationalist Fascism isn't nazism, two very different things)  and you have the nerve to call left wing ideologies tolitarian?  Communism explicitly advocates for a utopic fairy land that has no government at all, and you are so ignorant that you think that's tolitarian. Marxism advocates for workers to control the factories, the little opposite of a tolitarian overload (Boss) who controls everything. You try to act like you have the slightest idea about these concepts, but you don't. Marxism and Communism are fairy tales, just like pure capitalism. Youreally should change your usernsame to Somali pirate, because that;'s what you want America to look like.

Bwwaaaaaa!  YouTube video, really? A few people in one state and AGAIN you're tarring all the rest of the south with the same brush and AGAIN you're showing your bigotry.

You should change YOUR name to Derp the Twerp.

Just WHO do I support, Derp?  I'm pretty sure I have never said, at least not in here.   Maybe YOU should run for President;  you'd fit right in.

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LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Romancandle on Aug 7, 2016

So you folks have beat the snot outta King... Congrats.

BUT... Why Trump? 

Facts please...

What's his plan  other than hiring lots of smart "billionaires" to run our country?

Trump already gave a speech on national defense, I saw it and he made a lot of sense.  Today he's giving a speech on the economy (I believe in Detroit).  It will be broadcast live on rightside broadcasting.  Go to youtube and type "rightside broadcasting", hit the link.  They also have many of his past speeches. 

Many people who are against Trump get all their news from the pro-democrat mainstream media.  Listen to what he has to say.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Aug 7, 2016

http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2011/06/military-spending

Not quite 23 though.

Well, they have bigger ground to cover.

Those numbers are from 2010. Obama for the last several years has been on a mission to decimate the US military while China and Russia have elevated their defense budget to record levels. The 2016 budget for our entire military is now just north of $500 billion (it was over $700 Billion before Obama).

Russia and China on the other hand have gone full steam ahead in their defense spending and are close to doubling what their budget was before Obama took office. A large amount of our defense funds goes toward NATO.

The United States still outspends every other nation but it may be closer to 5 or 6 combined nations and not 23.

bigbear29

Why do we need to spend more on the military?  Because others are spending more on their military?  I'm no expert on the military but there is only one from that list that could put up a fight with the United States.  Russia

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 8, 2016

Why do we need to spend more on the military?  Because others are spending more on their military?  I'm no expert on the military but there is only one from that list that could put up a fight with the United States.  Russia

Wow, you just have no clue, Did you know Pakistan and India hate each other?

Did you know that both those countries together have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the entire Earth with Nuclear Winter?

Do you know North Korea is at this very moment trying to create a missile that can reach the US ?, the same with Iran?

Both those countries have real nut jobs in charge. We need our Military and we need people in this country to pay more attention to global affairs.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Right sully...And don't forget about an EMP blast over the US.  That would totally devastate the US power grid for years and probably fry every electronic device in the US.  That poster bigboar has no clue.

bigbear29

So we need to spend more on military because Pakistan and India hate each other?  As far as North Korea, they have no missiles that can reach the USA, and they will not for a long time.

 

And if I'm not in error, North Korea is still trying to catch up with USA missile power.

bigbear29

The USA is already making EMP weapons, so why do we need to spend more on the military?

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 8, 2016

Those numbers are from 2010. Obama for the last several years has been on a mission to decimate the US military while China and Russia have elevated their defense budget to record levels. The 2016 budget for our entire military is now just north of $500 billion (it was over $700 Billion before Obama).

Russia and China on the other hand have gone full steam ahead in their defense spending and are close to doubling what their budget was before Obama took office. A large amount of our defense funds goes toward NATO.

The United States still outspends every other nation but it may be closer to 5 or 6 combined nations and not 23.

All true, but the way wars are fought has changed.

With drones and cyber offenses such as Stuxnet the military is going to reorganize its' expenses without necessarily being weaker.

bigbear29

Like I said, I'm no expert on military power, but I think the US will not let North Korea get close to their achievement.  They will wake up one morning and their stuff will not be working, like IRAN.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 8, 2016

Like I said, I'm no expert on military power, but I think the US will not let North Korea get close to their achievement.  They will wake up one morning and their stuff will not be working, like IRAN.

You kidding?  Bill Clinton already let North Korea develop nuclear weapons, just like obama gave Iran the ability to develop their nukes.  Had enough of democrat Presidents yet?  Dem's only care about one thing...Show me the money!

bigbear29

achievement = launch on the United States

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Romancandle on Aug 7, 2016

So you folks have beat the snot outta King... Congrats.

BUT... Why Trump? 

Facts please...

What's his plan  other than hiring lots of smart "billionaires" to run our country?

When Trump's plan called for a  "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.

Jeb Bush tweeted, "Donald Trump is unhinged. His "policy" proposals are not serious."

And Lindsey Graham added Trump "has gone from making absurd comments to being downright dangerous with his bombastic rhetoric." and "He’s putting at risk the lives of interpreters, American supporters, diplomats, & the troops in the region by making these bigoted comments"

I've heard that Trump has a plan to find and deport 11 million illegals, build a very high wall on the Mexico/US border, and make Mexico pay for it, but never saw the exact details of how it could be done. Trump want to lower our tax burden while increasing the size of our military so he can "take out" ISIS, ISIL, and maybe North Korea and Iran.

I'm sure he has excellent plans on how to do his magic act and his LP supporters probably have all the real details and will share them with you.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 8, 2016

When Trump's plan called for a  "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.

Jeb Bush tweeted, "Donald Trump is unhinged. His "policy" proposals are not serious."

And Lindsey Graham added Trump "has gone from making absurd comments to being downright dangerous with his bombastic rhetoric." and "He’s putting at risk the lives of interpreters, American supporters, diplomats, & the troops in the region by making these bigoted comments"

I've heard that Trump has a plan to find and deport 11 million illegals, build a very high wall on the Mexico/US border, and make Mexico pay for it, but never saw the exact details of how it could be done. Trump want to lower our tax burden while increasing the size of our military so he can "take out" ISIS, ISIL, and maybe North Korea and Iran.

I'm sure he has excellent plans on how to do his magic act and his LP supporters probably have all the real details and will share them with you.

Where do you get a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the US?  Are you nuts or just a liar?  BTW, under Reagan, lowering taxes did boost the economy.  Or is American history not your strong point?

bigbear29

Stack47, trump stated, "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. "

but he has pulled back on that recently,  because he knows that he can't do that, plus he also knows that he needs the US muslim votes also.

The republicans are really worried about trump, they are still pulling away from him.  Also, big donors are pulling away from him also, he does not have the money for attack ads for Hillary.

Trump is not going to deport 11 million illegals, or build a wall that Mexico will pay for, not going to happen.  Lowering taxes for everyone is not realistic, how is he going to pay for that.

The trade stuff that trump talked about is a waste of time.

The only good thing that trump talked about was regulatory rules.

As far as taking out Isis, that is still going to be long term,  they are not wearing isis uniforms with the words isis on it.  This is why it is so difficult to kill isis.

But it was mostly all talk!

bigbear29

50 G.O.P. Officials Warn Donald Trump Would Put Nation’s Security ‘at Risk’

 

Fifty of the nation’s most senior Republican national security officials, many of them former top aides or cabinet members for President George W. Bush, have signed a letter declaring that Donald J. Trump “lacks the character, values and experience” to be president and “would put at risk our country’s national security and well-being.”

Mr. Trump, the officials warn, “would be the most reckless president in American history.”

The letter says Mr. Trump would weaken the United States’ moral authority and questions his knowledge of and belief in the Constitution. It says he has “demonstrated repeatedly that he has little understanding” of the nation’s “vital national interests, its complex diplomatic challenges, its indispensable alliances and the democratic values” on which American policy should be based. And it laments that “Mr. Trump has shown no interest in educating himself.”

“None of us will vote for Donald Trump,” the letter states, though it notes later that many Americans “have doubts about Hillary Clinton, as do many of us.”

destinycreation

"Former CIA Officer Evan McMullin Launches Independent Presidential Bid as an Alternative Candidate to Donald Trump"

"Evan McMullin, a former CIA counter-terrorism officer, will run for president  as a third-party conservative alternative to Donald Trump. He is a former CIA agent and currently the Chief Policy Director for the House Republican Conference. McMullin has never held elective office, even though he has been working in the government since 1999. According to his LinkedIn page, McMullin joined the CIA as an operations officer in 1999 and stayed at the agency until 2010. He “managed clandestine operations related to counterterrorism, counterinsurgency, energy, political stability, and counterintelligence, while serving mostly in hostile environments.  Aside from a three-year stint as an investment banking associate at Goldman Sachs, McMullin has been in government since joining the CIA.   In 2013, he became a senior adviser to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. In 2015, he joined the Republican Conference as its Chief Policy Director. His job includes managing their domestic and foreign policy initiatives, focusing on foreign affairs, national security, technology, health care and other issues. "

"Evan McMullin is  a Morman.  He earned a Bachelor’s degree in International Law and Diplomacy from Brigham Young University and, later in his life, a Master's of Business Administration from The Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania."

"He also served as a Mormon missionary in Brazil and a Volunteer Refugee Resettlement Officer for the UN High Commissioner for Refugees in Jordan."

 

Information taken from several different News Sites on the Internet.

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 8, 2016

You kidding?  Bill Clinton already let North Korea develop nuclear weapons, just like obama gave Iran the ability to develop their nukes.  Had enough of democrat Presidents yet?  Dem's only care about one thing...Show me the money!

I think North Korea and Iran intended to develop Nuclear Weapons regardless of American Policy or position on the matter. These countries don't take their lead about what to do from the United States, which is why it is pointless to blame sitting US Presidents for the actions of other countries.

The U.S. has Nuclear Weapons as well, and will continue to develop Nuclear Weapons in secrecy, regardless of whatever "Front Face Charade" this country puts forward for the rest of the world to believe.

All Nations have the right to be reasonably armed to Defend their Country.  This is just Common Sense.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 8, 2016

50 G.O.P. Officials Warn Donald Trump Would Put Nation’s Security ‘at Risk’

 

Fifty of the nation’s most senior Republican national security officials, many of them former top aides or cabinet members for President George W. Bush, have signed a letter declaring that Donald J. Trump “lacks the character, values and experience” to be president and “would put at risk our country’s national security and well-being.”

Mr. Trump, the officials warn, “would be the most reckless president in American history.”

The letter says Mr. Trump would weaken the United States’ moral authority and questions his knowledge of and belief in the Constitution. It says he has “demonstrated repeatedly that he has little understanding” of the nation’s “vital national interests, its complex diplomatic challenges, its indispensable alliances and the democratic values” on which American policy should be based. And it laments that “Mr. Trump has shown no interest in educating himself.”

“None of us will vote for Donald Trump,” the letter states, though it notes later that many Americans “have doubts about Hillary Clinton, as do many of us.”

LOL!  50 GOP Bush insiders?  Those are the lifer establishment we're trying to get rid of.  That's a good thing.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Aug 8, 2016

I think North Korea and Iran intended to develop Nuclear Weapons regardless of American Policy or position on the matter. These countries don't take their lead about what to do from the United States, which is why it is pointless to blame sitting US Presidents for the actions of other countries.

The U.S. has Nuclear Weapons as well, and will continue to develop Nuclear Weapons in secrecy, regardless of whatever "Front Face Charade" this country puts forward for the rest of the world to believe.

All Nations have the right to be reasonably armed to Defend their Country.  This is just Common Sense.

Actually you're wrong.  As memory serves me correctly, the Clinton administration gave NK billions and cut sanctions against that country in return for a promise not to pursue nukes.  Sanctions were working, just like they were working against Iran.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Aug 8, 2016

"Former CIA Officer Evan McMullin Launches Independent Presidential Bid as an Alternative Candidate to Donald Trump"

"Evan McMullin, a former CIA counter-terrorism officer, will run for president  as a third-party conservative alternative to Donald Trump. He is a former CIA agent and currently the Chief Policy Director for the House Republican Conference. McMullin has never held elective office, even though he has been working in the government since 1999. According to his LinkedIn page, McMullin joined the CIA as an operations officer in 1999 and stayed at the agency until 2010. He “managed clandestine operations related to counterterrorism, counterinsurgency, energy, political stability, and counterintelligence, while serving mostly in hostile environments.  Aside from a three-year stint as an investment banking associate at Goldman Sachs, McMullin has been in government since joining the CIA.   In 2013, he became a senior adviser to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. In 2015, he joined the Republican Conference as its Chief Policy Director. His job includes managing their domestic and foreign policy initiatives, focusing on foreign affairs, national security, technology, health care and other issues. "

"Evan McMullin is  a Morman.  He earned a Bachelor’s degree in International Law and Diplomacy from Brigham Young University and, later in his life, a Master's of Business Administration from The Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania."

"He also served as a Mormon missionary in Brazil and a Volunteer Refugee Resettlement Officer for the UN High Commissioner for Refugees in Jordan."

 

Information taken from several different News Sites on the Internet.

Another establishment GOP insider trying to gum up the works.  Too little, too late.  Anyone wonder why the establishment is so against Trump?  Think about it.

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 8, 2016

Actually you're wrong.  As memory serves me correctly, the Clinton administration gave NK billions and cut sanctions against that country in return for a promise not to pursue nukes.  Sanctions were working, just like they were working against Iran.

Sanctions may have been working, but is it not reasonable to assume [given the type of Countries we're dealing with here], that both North Korea and Iran are still developing Nuclear Weapons in secrecy, regardless of sanctions.

North Korea and Iran CANNOT be TRUSTED !!!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Aug 8, 2016

Sanctions may have been working, but is it not reasonable to assume [given the type of Countries we're dealing with here], that both North Korea and Iran are still developing Nuclear Weapons in secrecy, regardless of sanctions.

North Korea and Iran CANNOT be TRUSTED !!!

The purpose of sanctions is for regime change.  Almost worked in 2009 Iran when the people took to the streets.  Unfortunately obama didn't support them.  Surprise surprise.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 8, 2016

When Trump's plan called for a  "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.

Jeb Bush tweeted, "Donald Trump is unhinged. His "policy" proposals are not serious."

And Lindsey Graham added Trump "has gone from making absurd comments to being downright dangerous with his bombastic rhetoric." and "He’s putting at risk the lives of interpreters, American supporters, diplomats, & the troops in the region by making these bigoted comments"

I've heard that Trump has a plan to find and deport 11 million illegals, build a very high wall on the Mexico/US border, and make Mexico pay for it, but never saw the exact details of how it could be done. Trump want to lower our tax burden while increasing the size of our military so he can "take out" ISIS, ISIL, and maybe North Korea and Iran.

I'm sure he has excellent plans on how to do his magic act and his LP supporters probably have all the real details and will share them with you.

Their lives are ALREADY in danger. Being a bigot is meaningless to our enemies. Bigotry, defined and used by

Lindsey Graham, is in a politically correct fashion without regard to real issues. Who is the fool? One who wants

to keep borders opened for anyone who wants to flood in? One who wants to allow foreigners in so their governments

remain friendly to our faces while stabbing us in the back? When we are so stuffed to the gills and overrun with outsiders

that our own people suffer and DIE something needs to give.

The situation has gone too far under current leadership. How many more bombings on foreign and home soil are

we supposed to endure due to shortcomings in a policy set in place that protects, encourages and gives rights to

outsiders? And how many more of our own citizens are supposed to suffer while we accommodate immigrants?

Either show terrorists we mean business by aggressive search and destroy and stop looking like cowards and puppets..

or pull out and leave them to themselves. They'll always have someone to direct their anger towards, let them kill

each other. US is spread too thin, busy trying to be a mighty power worldwide. We should be the mightiest power

right here on our own ground. And if that means keeping terrorists or foreigners meant to spread terror out, so be it.

I wouldn't mind being called prejudiced at all in the name of self preservation. The great melting pot needed to be

overturned a long, long time ago. Our seemingly softhearted, underhanded government makes it easy for us to

be targeted.

What would any of you do or think if one of your family members were killed by terrorists? I'd want them hunted

down and annihilated. Not just the leader but as many mindless followers along with him as possible. They are over

at US bases hiding in caves like the monsters they are shooting at service members everyday. Driving bombs to

checkpoints and base entrances...you don't hear about that much today, but it's happening. People are dying over

there and for what? Service to a government that doesn't care about them? VA benefits and facilities are a joke and

our Commander in Chief has the gall to display heartfelt thankfulness faked in a speech he didn't even write. Just

keep manning those bases and die trying.

Keep the terrorists out, keep the illegal immigrants out, if that preserves our country, I'm for it. If allowed in and it

means scrutinizing Middle Eastern immigrants, they shouldn't be offended, they should be honored to enter a country

(when they clear) that holds the safety and future of its citizens dear to its heart and fights for their own protection

with all its might. We need 'Proud to be an American' to mean something again.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 8, 2016

Their lives are ALREADY in danger. Being a bigot is meaningless to our enemies. Bigotry, defined and used by

Lindsey Graham, is in a politically correct fashion without regard to real issues. Who is the fool? One who wants

to keep borders opened for anyone who wants to flood in? One who wants to allow foreigners in so their governments

remain friendly to our faces while stabbing us in the back? When we are so stuffed to the gills and overrun with outsiders

that our own people suffer and DIE something needs to give.

The situation has gone too far under current leadership. How many more bombings on foreign and home soil are

we supposed to endure due to shortcomings in a policy set in place that protects, encourages and gives rights to

outsiders? And how many more of our own citizens are supposed to suffer while we accommodate immigrants?

Either show terrorists we mean business by aggressive search and destroy and stop looking like cowards and puppets..

or pull out and leave them to themselves. They'll always have someone to direct their anger towards, let them kill

each other. US is spread too thin, busy trying to be a mighty power worldwide. We should be the mightiest power

right here on our own ground. And if that means keeping terrorists or foreigners meant to spread terror out, so be it.

I wouldn't mind being called prejudiced at all in the name of self preservation. The great melting pot needed to be

overturned a long, long time ago. Our seemingly softhearted, underhanded government makes it easy for us to

be targeted.

What would any of you do or think if one of your family members were killed by terrorists? I'd want them hunted

down and annihilated. Not just the leader but as many mindless followers along with him as possible. They are over

at US bases hiding in caves like the monsters they are shooting at service members everyday. Driving bombs to

checkpoints and base entrances...you don't hear about that much today, but it's happening. People are dying over

there and for what? Service to a government that doesn't care about them? VA benefits and facilities are a joke and

our Commander in Chief has the gall to display heartfelt thankfulness faked in a speech he didn't even write. Just

keep manning those bases and die trying.

Keep the terrorists out, keep the illegal immigrants out, if that preserves our country, I'm for it. If allowed in and it

means scrutinizing Middle Eastern immigrants, they shouldn't be offended, they should be honored to enter a country

(when they clear) that holds the safety and future of its citizens dear to its heart and fights for their own protection

with all its might. We need 'Proud to be an American' to mean something again.

Amen

I am with you all the way  US Flag

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 8, 2016

Where do you get a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the US?  Are you nuts or just a liar?  BTW, under Reagan, lowering taxes did boost the economy.  Or is American history not your strong point?

I was quoting Trump and what Bush and Graham remarked about it, Cheesehead.

"Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population ."

"Where do you get a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the US?"

If you don't believe quotes, here is the actual video. Bet you'll still pretend he never said it.

"BTW, under Reagan, lowering taxes did boost the economy. Or is American history not your strong point? "

I know enough history to know George H.W. (read my lips) Bush had to raise taxes right after Reagan left office. You're 0 for 2; have anything intelligent to say?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 8, 2016

Stack47, trump stated, "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. "

but he has pulled back on that recently,  because he knows that he can't do that, plus he also knows that he needs the US muslim votes also.

The republicans are really worried about trump, they are still pulling away from him.  Also, big donors are pulling away from him also, he does not have the money for attack ads for Hillary.

Trump is not going to deport 11 million illegals, or build a wall that Mexico will pay for, not going to happen.  Lowering taxes for everyone is not realistic, how is he going to pay for that.

The trade stuff that trump talked about is a waste of time.

The only good thing that trump talked about was regulatory rules.

As far as taking out Isis, that is still going to be long term,  they are not wearing isis uniforms with the words isis on it.  This is why it is so difficult to kill isis.

But it was mostly all talk!

"but he has pulled back on that recently "

That's a must because he makes promises that are impossible to do. I saw a poll today where 14% of Utah voters will write in Romney's name and that was before Evan McMullin announced his candidacy.

"As far as taking out Isis, that is still going to be long term,  they are not wearing isis uniforms with the words isis on it."

It would be like taking on the Viet Cong and everybody but apparently Trump and knows how that turned out.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 8, 2016

Their lives are ALREADY in danger. Being a bigot is meaningless to our enemies. Bigotry, defined and used by

Lindsey Graham, is in a politically correct fashion without regard to real issues. Who is the fool? One who wants

to keep borders opened for anyone who wants to flood in? One who wants to allow foreigners in so their governments

remain friendly to our faces while stabbing us in the back? When we are so stuffed to the gills and overrun with outsiders

that our own people suffer and DIE something needs to give.

The situation has gone too far under current leadership. How many more bombings on foreign and home soil are

we supposed to endure due to shortcomings in a policy set in place that protects, encourages and gives rights to

outsiders? And how many more of our own citizens are supposed to suffer while we accommodate immigrants?

Either show terrorists we mean business by aggressive search and destroy and stop looking like cowards and puppets..

or pull out and leave them to themselves. They'll always have someone to direct their anger towards, let them kill

each other. US is spread too thin, busy trying to be a mighty power worldwide. We should be the mightiest power

right here on our own ground. And if that means keeping terrorists or foreigners meant to spread terror out, so be it.

I wouldn't mind being called prejudiced at all in the name of self preservation. The great melting pot needed to be

overturned a long, long time ago. Our seemingly softhearted, underhanded government makes it easy for us to

be targeted.

What would any of you do or think if one of your family members were killed by terrorists? I'd want them hunted

down and annihilated. Not just the leader but as many mindless followers along with him as possible. They are over

at US bases hiding in caves like the monsters they are shooting at service members everyday. Driving bombs to

checkpoints and base entrances...you don't hear about that much today, but it's happening. People are dying over

there and for what? Service to a government that doesn't care about them? VA benefits and facilities are a joke and

our Commander in Chief has the gall to display heartfelt thankfulness faked in a speech he didn't even write. Just

keep manning those bases and die trying.

Keep the terrorists out, keep the illegal immigrants out, if that preserves our country, I'm for it. If allowed in and it

means scrutinizing Middle Eastern immigrants, they shouldn't be offended, they should be honored to enter a country

(when they clear) that holds the safety and future of its citizens dear to its heart and fights for their own protection

with all its might. We need 'Proud to be an American' to mean something again.

"What would any of you do or think if one of your family members were killed by terrorists? I'd want them hunted  down and annihilated."

Do you understand what "suicide bomber" means?

And because of that, it's almost impossible to find accomplices. That being said, I agree something has to be done and if Trump, Bush, or Graham has the answer, why are they waiting to tell us?

"We need 'Proud to be an American' to mean something again."

The last time I looked most Americans are proud; weren't you proud when they played our National Anthem 5 times during the Olympics?

Seriously with all the high ranking Republican defections, do you really believe Trump has a chance?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 9, 2016

I was quoting Trump and what Bush and Graham remarked about it, Cheesehead.

"Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population ."

"Where do you get a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the US?"

If you don't believe quotes, here is the actual video. Bet you'll still pretend he never said it.

"BTW, under Reagan, lowering taxes did boost the economy. Or is American history not your strong point? "

I know enough history to know George H.W. (read my lips) Bush had to raise taxes right after Reagan left office. You're 0 for 2; have anything intelligent to say?

Yes I do have something intelligent to say hillbilly.   Other than small minded people like you, who gives a rip what Trump said?  Hillary is a corrupt liar.  I guess, in your world, what people say off the cuff is worse than what people do huh?   Cut and paste all the BS you want.  The choice is clear.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 9, 2016

"What would any of you do or think if one of your family members were killed by terrorists? I'd want them hunted  down and annihilated."

Do you understand what "suicide bomber" means?

And because of that, it's almost impossible to find accomplices. That being said, I agree something has to be done and if Trump, Bush, or Graham has the answer, why are they waiting to tell us?

"We need 'Proud to be an American' to mean something again."

The last time I looked most Americans are proud; weren't you proud when they played our National Anthem 5 times during the Olympics?

Seriously with all the high ranking Republican defections, do you really believe Trump has a chance?

Hey genius...Trump already said he's not going to give ISIS any information.  What do you expect him to say that he hasn't already said?  You want him to tell the enemy everything we're going to do before we do it like obama does?  BTW, the father of the Orlando terrorist, Seddique Mateen, was spotted at a Hillary rally in Kissimmee, Florida.  You know, the guy who supports the taliban (a terrorist organization).  When asked why he was there, he stated his support for Hillary.  LOL!  Guess we know who's going to be tougher on the terrorists huh?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 9, 2016

"What would any of you do or think if one of your family members were killed by terrorists? I'd want them hunted  down and annihilated."

Do you understand what "suicide bomber" means?

And because of that, it's almost impossible to find accomplices. That being said, I agree something has to be done and if Trump, Bush, or Graham has the answer, why are they waiting to tell us?

"We need 'Proud to be an American' to mean something again."

The last time I looked most Americans are proud; weren't you proud when they played our National Anthem 5 times during the Olympics?

Seriously with all the high ranking Republican defections, do you really believe Trump has a chance?

I understand what suicide bomber means - An individual in most cases. I see where you're going with this.
One suicide bomber, how do you find the affiliation when one acts alone? It's there.
They were his/her support system for years.

S/he was filled with hatred for Americans from an early age and brainwashed against the 'infidels'. Brain-
washing is too strong word for some of them because what a lot of them believe is they have to take
out as many of us as they can and it's a great honor to do so. They believe they're rewarded for what the
religious among us believe: thou shalt not kill.

The US knows far more than what they lead us to believe. They are capable of putting a real hurt on the
groups that prime individuals and groups to do their dirty work. Various political reasons prevent them from
acting on what they know. I'd like an answer to why things aren't being done too but suspect it's primarily
due to weighing one bad outcome against the other and deciding which gives us the best footing.

Pride in the idea of being an American is there but our country's leaders shame us on a lot of levels. I think
the overall feeling Americans hold is that this country is great but the way its run is laughable. I don't feel
the USA is what it once was or what it can be. I'm not happy about what goes on in America..its homeless,
out of work, poor and disadvantaged. I'm comfortable on an individual level but want to be that and proud
on a national one. Until we take care of our own first I can't agree with being proud of the National Anthem
being played at an event, the New Colossus or anything at all that was once viewed as part of the definition
of being a great country. Pride for me will be restored when our own citizens are placed first above other
nations tired, poor and huddled masses. We have enough of our own and if anyone rejects the idea of
replacing outsiders with 'insiders', they need to be deported.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 9, 2016

Yes I do have something intelligent to say hillbilly.   Other than small minded people like you, who gives a rip what Trump said?  Hillary is a corrupt liar.  I guess, in your world, what people say off the cuff is worse than what people do huh?   Cut and paste all the BS you want.  The choice is clear.

Childish name calling won't change what Trump said, regardless of whatever methods you use to pretend he never said it.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 9, 2016

Hey genius...Trump already said he's not going to give ISIS any information.  What do you expect him to say that he hasn't already said?  You want him to tell the enemy everything we're going to do before we do it like obama does?  BTW, the father of the Orlando terrorist, Seddique Mateen, was spotted at a Hillary rally in Kissimmee, Florida.  You know, the guy who supports the taliban (a terrorist organization).  When asked why he was there, he stated his support for Hillary.  LOL!  Guess we know who's going to be tougher on the terrorists huh?

"Trump already said he's not going to give ISIS any information. "

Trump has no valid information to give to ISIS, ISIL, or Trump U. students. Similar to the nothing you added to playing lottery games.

"BTW, the father of the Orlando terrorist, Seddique Mateen, was spotted at a Hillary rally in Kissimmee, Florida."

Besides the fact you gave no proof it actually happened, it's no different than somebody spotting him or John Hinckley's grandma at McDonalds.

"Guess we know who's going to be tougher on the terrorists huh? "

Looks like you missed where Mateen was killed by police. What exactly is Trump's plan on being tough on dead terrorist?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 9, 2016

"Trump already said he's not going to give ISIS any information. "

Trump has no valid information to give to ISIS, ISIL, or Trump U. students. Similar to the nothing you added to playing lottery games.

"BTW, the father of the Orlando terrorist, Seddique Mateen, was spotted at a Hillary rally in Kissimmee, Florida."

Besides the fact you gave no proof it actually happened, it's no different than somebody spotting him or John Hinckley's grandma at McDonalds.

"Guess we know who's going to be tougher on the terrorists huh? "

Looks like you missed where Mateen was killed by police. What exactly is Trump's plan on being tough on dead terrorist?

You really aren't making any sense.  BTW, the photo of Seddique is all over the internet.  He was seated right behind that fraud Hillary.  LOL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 9, 2016

Childish name calling won't change what Trump said, regardless of whatever methods you use to pretend he never said it.

Sounds like a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

emilyg's avataremilyg

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 8, 2016

LOL!  50 GOP Bush insiders?  Those are the lifer establishment we're trying to get rid of.  That's a good thing.

Yes we are trying to get rid of them.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by emilyg on Aug 9, 2016

Yes we are trying to get rid of them.

The establishment on both sides of the isle need to go away for good.  That's why they hate Trump and why they hated Sanders.  Both these men threaten their corrupt livelihood.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 9, 2016

I understand what suicide bomber means - An individual in most cases. I see where you're going with this.
One suicide bomber, how do you find the affiliation when one acts alone? It's there.
They were his/her support system for years.

S/he was filled with hatred for Americans from an early age and brainwashed against the 'infidels'. Brain-
washing is too strong word for some of them because what a lot of them believe is they have to take
out as many of us as they can and it's a great honor to do so. They believe they're rewarded for what the
religious among us believe: thou shalt not kill.

The US knows far more than what they lead us to believe. They are capable of putting a real hurt on the
groups that prime individuals and groups to do their dirty work. Various political reasons prevent them from
acting on what they know. I'd like an answer to why things aren't being done too but suspect it's primarily
due to weighing one bad outcome against the other and deciding which gives us the best footing.

Pride in the idea of being an American is there but our country's leaders shame us on a lot of levels. I think
the overall feeling Americans hold is that this country is great but the way its run is laughable. I don't feel
the USA is what it once was or what it can be. I'm not happy about what goes on in America..its homeless,
out of work, poor and disadvantaged. I'm comfortable on an individual level but want to be that and proud
on a national one. Until we take care of our own first I can't agree with being proud of the National Anthem
being played at an event, the New Colossus or anything at all that was once viewed as part of the definition
of being a great country. Pride for me will be restored when our own citizens are placed first above other
nations tired, poor and huddled masses. We have enough of our own and if anyone rejects the idea of
replacing outsiders with 'insiders', they need to be deported.

"One suicide bomber, how do you find the affiliation when one acts alone? It's there.
They were his/her support system for years."

We'll probably never know for sure the money and support behind the 911 attacks, but Hussein, bin Laden, and Gaddafi won't be supporting any future attacks. The problem then was nobody in the U.S. thought terrorists could take over planes and then fly them into buildings. Six years earlier nobody thought someone would park a truck full of explosives near a federal building either. And who would have thought two brothers would place an explosives near the Boston Marathon finish line?

You obviously see a different American than I do and I believe the big difference is I"m willing to let future generations decide their America and not suggest they return to what we believe might be a better America.

"Pride for me will be restored when our own citizens are placed first above other
nations tired, poor and huddled masses. "

Watching a bunch of state legislators (mine included) wasting time on creating bathroom laws isn't exactly ground breaking legislation either. The problems you described existed for 40 years. If you can't find any reasons now to be proud of America, you'll probably never find any.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 9, 2016

Sounds like a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

You called me a liar when I quoted Trump and obviously ignored the video link where Trump said it.

You don't even know what "the pot calling the kettle black" means and probably your reason for arguing facts and the juvenile name calling.

Sunglasses

For fun I have bet a euro on Donald Trump. The payout was better.

Romancandle's avatarRomancandle

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 8, 2016

When Trump's plan called for a  "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.

Jeb Bush tweeted, "Donald Trump is unhinged. His "policy" proposals are not serious."

And Lindsey Graham added Trump "has gone from making absurd comments to being downright dangerous with his bombastic rhetoric." and "He’s putting at risk the lives of interpreters, American supporters, diplomats, & the troops in the region by making these bigoted comments"

I've heard that Trump has a plan to find and deport 11 million illegals, build a very high wall on the Mexico/US border, and make Mexico pay for it, but never saw the exact details of how it could be done. Trump want to lower our tax burden while increasing the size of our military so he can "take out" ISIS, ISIL, and maybe North Korea and Iran.

I'm sure he has excellent plans on how to do his magic act and his LP supporters probably have all the real details and will share them with you.

I guess facts are hard to find...

liveingreenbay... I have listened.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Sunglasses on Aug 9, 2016

For fun I have bet a euro on Donald Trump. The payout was better.

I don't blame ya, esp. if the odds were good.

One word of advice:  don't ever bet on the Cowboys, even if you're getting points.  I lost a whole pay check on Super Bowl XIII, taking Dallas + 3.  I'm glad I had a charge acct. at both the grocery store and gas station.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 9, 2016

You called me a liar when I quoted Trump and obviously ignored the video link where Trump said it.

You don't even know what "the pot calling the kettle black" means and probably your reason for arguing facts and the juvenile name calling.

Hey Stack...What do you think it means?  I make perfect sense, you don't.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Jethro where are you?  Waiting for a reply.  Newsflash... Newly released emails though FOIA requests prove Hillary is guilty of pay-for-play.  Hillary Clinton via Clinton Foundation accepted money for political favors.  How do you feel about Russia getting 20% of United States uranium reserves so Bill Clinton can make half a million dollars a speech for several speeches?

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 10, 2016

Jethro where are you?  Waiting for a reply.  Newsflash... Newly released emails though FOIA requests prove Hillary is guilty of pay-for-play.  Hillary Clinton via Clinton Foundation accepted money for political favors.  How do you feel about Russia getting 20% of United States uranium reserves so Bill Clinton can make half a million dollars a speech for several speeches?

The media isn't reporting it. Their only agenda is to keep bashing Trump.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Unluckyone on Aug 10, 2016

The media isn't reporting it. Their only agenda is to keep bashing Trump.

Hmm..but they are reporting on the man that tried to scale Trump Tower with giant suction cups.  LOL

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Unluckyone on Aug 10, 2016

The media isn't reporting it. Their only agenda is to keep bashing Trump.

I hate my aol email. Stories do nothing but trash Trump.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 10, 2016

Hmm..but they are reporting on the man that tried to scale Trump Tower with giant suction cups.  LOL

What are the first three letters in NEWs? We already know that she's a power hungry and money hungry selfish person, and a guy climbing Trump Towers is certainly new and interesting.

LottoBux's avatarLottoBux

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 10, 2016

I don't blame ya, esp. if the odds were good.

One word of advice:  don't ever bet on the Cowboys, even if you're getting points.  I lost a whole pay check on Super Bowl XIII, taking Dallas + 3.  I'm glad I had a charge acct. at both the grocery store and gas station.

Don't You Know Better Than Betting On Romo In Crunch Time?

Is It December Already?

Sooner Or Later He Will Not Be Able To Play.

I Don't Even Know Who Their Backup Is.

This Is A Yearly Problem.

LottoBux's avatarLottoBux

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 10, 2016

I hate my aol email. Stories do nothing but trash Trump.

Why Don't You Switch To Another Provider?(gmail,yahoo)

There Are More Than Enough To Choose From.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by LottoBux on Aug 10, 2016

Don't You Know Better Than Betting On Romo In Crunch Time?

Is It December Already?

Sooner Or Later He Will Not Be Able To Play.

I Don't Even Know Who Their Backup Is.

This Is A Yearly Problem.

Roger Staubach was the Dallas QB of SB XIII. Tony Romo wasn't even born yet.   Romo has more 4th quarter comebacks than any other QB since 2006, although he's only one of 11 men on the field.  He also has the highest passer rating in December, but yet again, he's just one of eleven.  Of course "sooner or later he will not be able to play".  Duh.  You don't know who their backup is?  It's either Prescott or Showers, although some analysts think Dallas will make a move after training camp cuts, pick up someone on the waiver wire and not have to give up a draft pick and/or a player in a trade.  I don't see it happening, but....Yearly problem?  It was a problem LAST year, that's it.  It's a problem most other teams have when they lose their starting QB.

Seriously, you need to stick to giving your opinion on sports you "might" know something about, like curling or ice hockey...or tiddlywinks.

You also need to work on when to use capital letters.

LottoBux's avatarLottoBux

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 11, 2016

Roger Staubach was the Dallas QB of SB XIII. Tony Romo wasn't even born yet.   Romo has more 4th quarter comebacks than any other QB since 2006, although he's only one of 11 men on the field.  He also has the highest passer rating in December, but yet again, he's just one of eleven.  Of course "sooner or later he will not be able to play".  Duh.  You don't know who their backup is?  It's either Prescott or Showers, although some analysts think Dallas will make a move after training camp cuts, pick up someone on the waiver wire and not have to give up a draft pick and/or a player in a trade.  I don't see it happening, but....Yearly problem?  It was a problem LAST year, that's it.  It's a problem most other teams have when they lose their starting QB.

Seriously, you need to stick to giving your opinion on sports you "might" know something about, like curling or ice hockey...or tiddlywinks.

You also need to work on when to use capital letters.

Exactly...Prescott Or Showers???

I Am A Dallas Fan And..

I Love Romo But He Always Gets Hurt...

Dallas Cowboys playoff history

Date Game Result
Jan. 11, 2015 NFC Divisional Green Bay 26, Dallas 21
Jan. 4, 2015 NFC Wild Card Dallas 24, Detroit 20
Jan. 17, 2010 NFC Divisional Minnesota 34, Dallas 3
Jan. 9, 2010 NFC Wild Card Dallas 34, Philadelphia 14
Jan. 13, 2008 NFC Divisional N.Y. Giants 21, Dallas 17
Jan. 6, 2007 NFC Wild Card Seattle 21, Dallas 20
Jan. 3, 2004 NFC Wild Card Carolina 29, Dallas 10
Jan. 9, 2000 NFC Wild Card Minnesota 27, Dallas 10

 

Thank God They Had Detroit To Play Last Year

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

"Always"? His collarbone injury last year (they rushed him back too soon from the first injury) caused him to miss most of the season, as did the same type of injury in 2010 which caused him to miss most of the season.  Other than those, he hasn't missed all that many games, all things considered AND other QB's injuries considered.  I don't have time to go look at the stats, but I think Romo has been more durable than Roethlisberger (although I could be wrong) in total games missed and if percentages are taken into consideration, more durable than RGIII, Michael Vick, Sam Bradford, Jake Locker and a few others that I can't remember off the top of my head.

I'm well aware of their lack of playoff success.  I'm still a fan, though and have been for over a half-century.   You don't sound like much of a fan, just another bandwagon whiner.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 10, 2016

What are the first three letters in NEWs? We already know that she's a power hungry and money hungry selfish person, and a guy climbing Trump Towers is certainly new and interesting.

I checked the story again on CNN it's quite lengthy. They have the retail value of the suction cups listed at $280+
each. They must be bored with the current news items, they couldn't wait to go into great detail on this one.

Nothing more about Hillary than what she and Trump would do for their parents...What?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by LottoBux on Aug 11, 2016

Why Don't You Switch To Another Provider?(gmail,yahoo)

There Are More Than Enough To Choose From.

It is my original email and it is on too many business cards and websites....my artist career.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 11, 2016

It is my original email and it is on too many business cards and websites....my artist career.

I know your pain. I have had my Yahoo email account since high school and pretty much most of my friends and acquaintances use that email.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

And now we see Hillary Clinton using the State Dept. as a tool of the Clinton Foundation. How do you think she will "use" this country if elected?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 12, 2016

And now we see Hillary Clinton using the State Dept. as a tool of the Clinton Foundation. How do you think she will "use" this country if elected?

The establishment republicans who are against Trump tells us all we need to know.  This country would, once again, be sold to the highest bidder.  There's no difference between both parties in DC.  They want the criminal Hillary elected to keep our tax dollars flowing into their coffers.  Trump is our only hope.  Did you notice how the media have been attacking Trump non-stop for the last two weeks?  The DC media aren't our friends.

bigbear29

Trump, release your tax returns!  I don't mind change,  repub or dem, but just not with trump.  He's not smart enough to run the United States.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 12, 2016

Trump, release your tax returns!  I don't mind change,  repub or dem, but just not with trump.  He's not smart enough to run the United States.

Oh look who's back.  I thought you were in hibernation.  Trump can't release his tax info until after his IRS audit is complete.  BTW... Trump ran a billion dollar construction business for years.  What did Hillary run besides a corrupt money laundering business called the Clinton Foundation?  Give it a break man.  LOL

bigbear29

That is incorrect, he can release his taxes, audit or not.  Just because trump ran a construction company does not mean he can be the president of the United States.

 

I believe it was Ronald Reagan that released his taxes when in audit.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 12, 2016

That is incorrect, he can release his taxes, audit or not.  Just because trump ran a construction company does not mean he can be the president of the United States.

 

I believe it was Ronald Reagan that released his taxes when in audit.

Its obvious you know nothing about business.  On advice of his legal counsel, he can't.  Did you vote for the community organizer?  I bet you did huh?  We all know how great that turned out.  Trump is an executive who hires qualified people to advise him.  That's what this country needs right now, a great manager.  After all, the President is a manager.  No single person can call all the shots.  You agree?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 12, 2016

Oh look who's back.  I thought you were in hibernation.  Trump can't release his tax info until after his IRS audit is complete.  BTW... Trump ran a billion dollar construction business for years.  What did Hillary run besides a corrupt money laundering business called the Clinton Foundation?  Give it a break man.  LOL

Thumbs Up

Personally, I don't give a hoot about his tax returns. Hillary has been doing evil deeds for a long time under the guise of

just politics..she's crooked, evil and no good for this country. I can't believe people are charmed and/or fooled by her lies.

She'll buckle....let's hope it's before voters hit the polls.

bigbear29

Trump needs a lot of votes to win, he better release his taxes.  Right now he's losing red states.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 12, 2016

Thumbs Up

Personally, I don't give a hoot about his tax returns. Hillary has been doing evil deeds for a long time under the guise of

just politics..she's crooked, evil and no good for this country. I can't believe people are charmed and/or fooled by her lies.

She'll buckle....let's hope it's before voters hit the polls.

Yea, the latest email made public proves she sold favors for money through the clinton foundation.  Where's the media on this?  This is bigger than Watergate.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 12, 2016

Trump needs a lot of votes to win, he better release his taxes.  Right now he's losing red states.

OMG... This is why I call you bigboar.

bigbear29

It was Nixon that released his taxes while in audit, not Reagan.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 12, 2016

Trump, release your tax returns!  I don't mind change,  repub or dem, but just not with trump.  He's not smart enough to run the United States.

I don't like Trump, but Hillary is just plain evil. I'll go with the best chance to defeat her any day.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 12, 2016

Oh look who's back.  I thought you were in hibernation.  Trump can't release his tax info until after his IRS audit is complete.  BTW... Trump ran a billion dollar construction business for years.  What did Hillary run besides a corrupt money laundering business called the Clinton Foundation?  Give it a break man.  LOL

He can release it, he has just chosen not to.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 12, 2016

Thumbs Up

Personally, I don't give a hoot about his tax returns. Hillary has been doing evil deeds for a long time under the guise of

just politics..she's crooked, evil and no good for this country. I can't believe people are charmed and/or fooled by her lies.

She'll buckle....let's hope it's before voters hit the polls.

I Agree! Except the buckle part.

bigbear29

He is not being transparent by not releasing his taxes, or is trump hiding something?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 12, 2016

He can release it, he has just chosen not to.

There is no way of knowing if he is even being audited so it's all moot. But so what, because it's just like everything Trumps says or does; somebody will make silly excuses hoping the very gullible believe it. "He was just joking about the Second Amendment people", "he was just being sarcastic", "I'm not familiar with that American born judge with a Mexican name", or "He's not a  war hero. He's a war hero because he wa captured. I like people who weren't captured.".

To get back on topic, if somebody want to bet a couple hundred or thousand on the results, the candidate with the easiest route to 270 should be the best bet. The last time I looked it's possible for Georgia and North Carolina to turn blue. Is Clinton behind in any state won by Obama in 2012?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 13, 2016

There is no way of knowing if he is even being audited so it's all moot. But so what, because it's just like everything Trumps says or does; somebody will make silly excuses hoping the very gullible believe it. "He was just joking about the Second Amendment people", "he was just being sarcastic", "I'm not familiar with that American born judge with a Mexican name", or "He's not a  war hero. He's a war hero because he wa captured. I like people who weren't captured.".

To get back on topic, if somebody want to bet a couple hundred or thousand on the results, the candidate with the easiest route to 270 should be the best bet. The last time I looked it's possible for Georgia and North Carolina to turn blue. Is Clinton behind in any state won by Obama in 2012?

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/291148-poll-clinton-trump-nearly-tied-in-iowa

bigbear29

Hillary is going to win all blue states and pick up some red states.  Trump needs educated white votes, educated/non-educated black votes and educated/non-educated hispanic votes, which he does not have to win.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 13, 2016

He is not being transparent by not releasing his taxes, or is trump hiding something?

If he is, then we have 2 candidates who are...who is hiding more?

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 12, 2016

Its obvious you know nothing about business.  On advice of his legal counsel, he can't.  Did you vote for the community organizer?  I bet you did huh?  We all know how great that turned out.  Trump is an executive who hires qualified people to advise him.  That's what this country needs right now, a great manager.  After all, the President is a manager.  No single person can call all the shots.  You agree?

              I Agree!     Thank You....

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 12, 2016

Oh look who's back.  I thought you were in hibernation.  Trump can't release his tax info until after his IRS audit is complete.  BTW... Trump ran a billion dollar construction business for years.  What did Hillary run besides a corrupt money laundering business called the Clinton Foundation?  Give it a break man.  LOL

                    Thumbs Up

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 12, 2016

Thumbs Up

Personally, I don't give a hoot about his tax returns. Hillary has been doing evil deeds for a long time under the guise of

just politics..she's crooked, evil and no good for this country. I can't believe people are charmed and/or fooled by her lies.

She'll buckle....let's hope it's before voters hit the polls.

             I Agree!    You hit the nail on the head dr65... well spoken..

Vergie6

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Aug 13, 2016

             I Agree!    You hit the nail on the head dr65... well spoken..

AMEN!Patriot

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 12, 2016

Trump, release your tax returns!  I don't mind change,  repub or dem, but just not with trump.  He's not smart enough to run the United States.

"He's not smart enough to run the United States." 

So you think the community organizing B.S. artist is doing a great job destroying the country? Trump is not a B.S. Clown like Obama, but he is a successful man of integrity who loves his country....something Obama couldn't care less about.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Aug 13, 2016

"He's not smart enough to run the United States." 

So you think the community organizing B.S. artist is doing a great job destroying the country? Trump is not a B.S. Clown like Obama, but he is a successful man of integrity who loves his country....something Obama couldn't care less about.

Very true.   I might also add the only thing Hillary cares about is lining her pockets.  Its already been proven (through emails) as Secretary of State she gave preferential treatment to people who gave millions to the Clinton Foundation.  I believe that Russian uranium deal will be her downfall.  Even the mainstream media won't be able to cover for her.  She's a real slime ball.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 13, 2016

Very true.   I might also add the only thing Hillary cares about is lining her pockets.  Its already been proven (through emails) as Secretary of State she gave preferential treatment to people who gave millions to the Clinton Foundation.  I believe that Russian uranium deal will be her downfall.  Even the mainstream media won't be able to cover for her.  She's a real slime ball.

Agree.

Hillary is bought and paid for and how can't anyone see where she'll take this country? Down the same sorry old
path of split decisions...one half what she thinks is right and the other half what her interests think is right.
Where are WE in all of this?
You know, people say Trump is crazy...Top dog Republicans are pulling their support for him they say...he can't
run this country others say...well watch his Michigan speech...and watch Hillary's DNC speech...she's all starry eyed
and filled with ego...Trump has ego alright...the right kind...the only kind that will put this country back on track.

Hillary NEEDS this..
Trump WANTS it..
there's a big difference here.

bigbear29

Educated voters want to see what kind of businessman trump is and does he pay taxes.  Trump said he would lower taxes for everyone except the poor.  So how is he going to pay for this?  Trump needs to release his tax returns.

So what has President Obama destroyed in this country?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Aug 13, 2016

"He's not smart enough to run the United States." 

So you think the community organizing B.S. artist is doing a great job destroying the country? Trump is not a B.S. Clown like Obama, but he is a successful man of integrity who loves his country....something Obama couldn't care less about.

You're right. Obama promised change but instead ushered in far-right policies like Obamacare. His center-right conservatism is not the right course for the U.S.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 13, 2016

Educated voters want to see what kind of businessman trump is and does he pay taxes.  Trump said he would lower taxes for everyone except the poor.  So how is he going to pay for this?  Trump needs to release his tax returns.

So what has President Obama destroyed in this country?

What has obama destroyed in this country?  Name it.  Health insurance isn't destroyed yet but its heading in that direction, just wait until 2017 when the really repressive regulations hit.  The military has been depleted and the energy sector has been hit by massive job killing regulations.  Without cheap energy this economy will never recover.  BTW this is the poorest economic recovery since the 1940's.  That's a fact. 

Oh and lets not forget...Tax returns, tax returns, tax returns... Blah blah blah.  No one cares.

MonEl

My own bet right now is that Clinton will win, it would be crazy for her not too, but as people are crazy, Who knows?

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 13, 2016

What has obama destroyed in this country?  Name it.  Health insurance isn't destroyed yet but its heading in that direction, just wait until 2017 when the really repressive regulations hit.  The military has been depleted and the energy sector has been hit by massive job killing regulations.  Without cheap energy this economy will never recover.  BTW this is the poorest economic recovery since the 1940's.  That's a fact. 

Oh and lets not forget...Tax returns, tax returns, tax returns... Blah blah blah.  No one cares.

Everything you mentioned is true but lets not forget that he also fundamentally changed America for the worse. JFK put a man on the moon while Obama's proud achievement was putting a man in the ladies bathroom. Our GDP has grown at the worst rate since WW2 yet those who adore him think he is the Messiah.

His administration have been fudging the numbers on just about every job report only to come back a few months later to reconcile the figures. Racial division is at an all time high thanks to him and his administration endorsed Black lives matters. According to Obama the only lives that matter are Muslims and blacks everybody else can rot for all he cares.

bigbear29

Oh yes, you are an idiot!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 13, 2016

Oh yes, you are an idiot!

LOL!  In your world people who present facts are idiots but people like you who regurgitate media BS are intelligent?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by MonEl on Aug 13, 2016

My own bet right now is that Clinton will win, it would be crazy for her not too, but as people are crazy, Who knows?

The current polls show it might be a Clinton landslide, but I'm sure someone here will question the same polls that were accurate in last few elections.

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 13, 2016

The current polls show it might be a Clinton landslide, but I'm sure someone here will question the same polls that were accurate in last few elections.

I don't pay much attention to the polls, b/c the polls are usually NOT too accurate.  They are only ever polling a Small percentage of the population anyway.  People can change their minds at the last moment, especially in this Presidential race.  The only results that count, are the votes that are cast on Election Day !!!

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Aug 13, 2016

"He's not smart enough to run the United States." 

So you think the community organizing B.S. artist is doing a great job destroying the country? Trump is not a B.S. Clown like Obama, but he is a successful man of integrity who loves his country....something Obama couldn't care less about.

Amen. Well said.

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Aug 13, 2016

I don't pay much attention to the polls, b/c the polls are usually NOT too accurate.  They are only ever polling a Small percentage of the population anyway.  People can change their minds at the last moment, especially in this Presidential race.  The only results that count, are the votes that are cast on Election Day !!!

I couldn't have said it better myself! Thumbs Up

Deo-nonfortuna

Decision 2016? There u go, the two ZOG-controlled flunkies. Regardless of who wins, the same cabal is in control.

Don't play with them Danny.

hillary-trump-jew-twins-dees

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Deo-nonfortuna... I disagree.  Trump is his own man.  That's why the republican "establishment" hates him as much as the democrats.  Think about it.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Aug 13, 2016

I don't pay much attention to the polls, b/c the polls are usually NOT too accurate.  They are only ever polling a Small percentage of the population anyway.  People can change their minds at the last moment, especially in this Presidential race.  The only results that count, are the votes that are cast on Election Day !!!

The polls I'm talking about are usually taken to determine if there is a change in the electorate. For instance starting in 1992 California voted for the Democrat President candidate in every election and the latest California shows Clinton ahead by 16 points. Texas has voted for the Republican President candidate in every election starting in 1980 and the latest poll there shows Trump leading by 11 points.

Because of the past results and the latest polls, it's highly likely both states will vote the same in 2016 as they did in 2012. The Iowa polls showed Clinton ahead by 3 points a month ago, but down a point three days ago. With only 6 electoral votes, the effect is much less than the larger populated states.

"They are only ever polling a Small percentage of the population anyway."

It's not like some of the LP opinion polls with nothing to compare with. If the results showed a past poll was dead wrong, that poll won't be used again. The Current KY poll shows Trump winning by 13 and the LA polls show him winning by 16. Based on how each state voted in the last four presidential elections and the current polls, picking the winner is a no brainer.  IMO, the polls are based on common sense; if a state voted for one party by large numbers in the past couple elections and the polls show the same that state should vote that way.

"The only results that count, are the votes that are cast on Election Day !!!"

Bet you missed the 2000 presidential election where 50,999,897 voted for Al Gore and 50,456,002 voted for George W. Bush. Do you really the polls in all 50 states are wrong?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 14, 2016

The polls I'm talking about are usually taken to determine if there is a change in the electorate. For instance starting in 1992 California voted for the Democrat President candidate in every election and the latest California shows Clinton ahead by 16 points. Texas has voted for the Republican President candidate in every election starting in 1980 and the latest poll there shows Trump leading by 11 points.

Because of the past results and the latest polls, it's highly likely both states will vote the same in 2016 as they did in 2012. The Iowa polls showed Clinton ahead by 3 points a month ago, but down a point three days ago. With only 6 electoral votes, the effect is much less than the larger populated states.

"They are only ever polling a Small percentage of the population anyway."

It's not like some of the LP opinion polls with nothing to compare with. If the results showed a past poll was dead wrong, that poll won't be used again. The Current KY poll shows Trump winning by 13 and the LA polls show him winning by 16. Based on how each state voted in the last four presidential elections and the current polls, picking the winner is a no brainer.  IMO, the polls are based on common sense; if a state voted for one party by large numbers in the past couple elections and the polls show the same that state should vote that way.

"The only results that count, are the votes that are cast on Election Day !!!"

Bet you missed the 2000 presidential election where 50,999,897 voted for Al Gore and 50,456,002 voted for George W. Bush. Do you really the polls in all 50 states are wrong?

If Al Gore had won, we would already be under Sharia law.

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 14, 2016

The polls I'm talking about are usually taken to determine if there is a change in the electorate. For instance starting in 1992 California voted for the Democrat President candidate in every election and the latest California shows Clinton ahead by 16 points. Texas has voted for the Republican President candidate in every election starting in 1980 and the latest poll there shows Trump leading by 11 points.

Because of the past results and the latest polls, it's highly likely both states will vote the same in 2016 as they did in 2012. The Iowa polls showed Clinton ahead by 3 points a month ago, but down a point three days ago. With only 6 electoral votes, the effect is much less than the larger populated states.

"They are only ever polling a Small percentage of the population anyway."

It's not like some of the LP opinion polls with nothing to compare with. If the results showed a past poll was dead wrong, that poll won't be used again. The Current KY poll shows Trump winning by 13 and the LA polls show him winning by 16. Based on how each state voted in the last four presidential elections and the current polls, picking the winner is a no brainer.  IMO, the polls are based on common sense; if a state voted for one party by large numbers in the past couple elections and the polls show the same that state should vote that way.

"The only results that count, are the votes that are cast on Election Day !!!"

Bet you missed the 2000 presidential election where 50,999,897 voted for Al Gore and 50,456,002 voted for George W. Bush. Do you really the polls in all 50 states are wrong?

So, based on the polls, who do you anticipate will win the Election in November 2016  ???

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 14, 2016

Deo-nonfortuna... I disagree.  Trump is his own man.  That's why the republican "establishment" hates him as much as the democrats.  Think about it.

Exactly.

I think it's great that the Repubs are afraid of him also. He is his own man, and he can't be bought, unlike Hitlery.

Trump will do what he thinks is right for the country. Hitlery will do what is best for her pocketbook.

To vote for Hitlery is to vote for the same establishment we've had for years. To vote for Trump is to vote for real change, not an establishment candidate.

To vote for Hitlery is to vote the same kind of candidate but expect different results. That's insanity.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Aug 14, 2016

So, based on the polls, who do you anticipate will win the Election in November 2016  ???

As of today it looks like Clinton should win most of the states Obama won in 2008 and 2012 and the election. If it came to light that Clinton's campaign chairman was involved with corruption in Ukraine, things could drastically changed.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Aug 14, 2016

Exactly.

I think it's great that the Repubs are afraid of him also. He is his own man, and he can't be bought, unlike Hitlery.

Trump will do what he thinks is right for the country. Hitlery will do what is best for her pocketbook.

To vote for Hitlery is to vote for the same establishment we've had for years. To vote for Trump is to vote for real change, not an establishment candidate.

To vote for Hitlery is to vote the same kind of candidate but expect different results. That's insanity.

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Mr Make everything Overseas doesn't give a crap about anybody or anything except his wallet. The main choices are 1) a very successful and wealthy greed filled center-right politician vs 2) a very successful and wealthy greed filled center-right politician. Simple as that. The only people who actually would push real change are third party candidates like Johnson and Stein.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 14, 2016

If Al Gore had won, we would already be under Sharia law.

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Ever read this?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 15, 2016

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Ever read this?

Lol Too funny. I and many others in this country have taken similar oaths. Are you naive enough to think when people take oaths, they never lie? You have provided my laugh for the day since I home sick. Lol

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 15, 2016

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Ever read this?

LOL!  Ask obama if he ever read that.  Ignoring current law passed by Congress isn't faithfully executing his duties as President.  Immigration law is a biggie.

bigbear29

Trump down 30% from Hillary in his home state of New York.  That's BAD!

Deo-nonfortuna

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 14, 2016

Deo-nonfortuna... I disagree.  Trump is his own man.  That's why the republican "establishment" hates him as much as the democrats.  Think about it.

How can Trump possibly win when the media whores are on a blitz/smear campaign against him?

He's right when he said the media is out to get him. Also Nixon and Billy Graham were right too about the media.

bigbear29

What media?  Fox News, One America News?  That is a sad excuse for trump losing his own red states.  Trump is just not ready to be the president.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 15, 2016

What media?  Fox News, One America News?  That is a sad excuse for trump losing his own red states.  Trump is just not ready to be the president.

In reality, the USA is not ready for Hitlery to be president. And never will be if we want to keep the values that our founding fathers had.

bigbear29

And trump will keep your founding father's values?  Release your taxes mr. Trump!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Deo-nonfortuna on Aug 15, 2016

How can Trump possibly win when the media whores are on a blitz/smear campaign against him?

He's right when he said the media is out to get him. Also Nixon and Billy Graham were right too about the media.

I agree.  The networks have been on a continuous assault against Trump.  CNN is the worst IMO.  Trump needs to keep hitting the media for the Hillary supporters they are.

bigbear29

Does that include, Fox News, One America News and Fox Business news also?

sully16's avatarsully16

Destroying the middle class is such a great idea, we are 8 years into a massive tax hike, hildabeast will raise it higher for the middle class, said so herself. Where will you be when the levy breaks ? 

bigbear29

Donald Trump wrongly says Hillary Clinton wants to raise taxes on the middle class

Hillary Clinton just admitted to a big tax hike, at least according to Donald Trump.

The Trump campaign sent an email blast to supporters embedded with a video of a Clinton event in Omaha, Neb., entitled, "Hillary Clinton says she wants to ‘raise taxes on the middle class.’"

The subtitles of Clinton’s speech read: "Trump wants to cuts taxes for the super rich. Well, we’re not going there, my friends. I’m telling you right now, we’re going to write fairer rules for the middle class and we are going to raise taxes on the middle class."

"Wait what?" the videos continues, before playing the <snip>ing sentence in slow motion: "We are going to raise taxes on the middle class."

"Wait, what?" was the reaction of the Clinton campaign too. Spokesman Josh Schwerin told us Clinton actually said the exact opposite.

He pointed to numerous reporters who agreed and forwarded us a transcript of Clinton’s prepared remarks that reads, "We aren’t going to raise taxes on the middle class."

It’s a classic case of she-heard-he-heard, so we asked experts to arbitrate. They agreed with the Clinton camp and offered some technical evidence to prove it. Get ready for some science.

Alan Yu, a linguistics professor at the University of Chicago who specializes in phonology, ran the audio through a computer program called Praat, which analyzes phonetics.

By analyzing the sound waves, we can see that Clinton was saying "aren’t," because she definitely pronounced the "n," though she didn’t really hit the "t."

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LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 15, 2016

Does that include, Fox News, One America News and Fox Business news also?

Actually FOX news has been critical of Trump from time to time.  Name a mainstream news network critical of Hillary on anything?  CNN, NBC, CNBC, ABC or CBS?

bigbear29

Fox News, One America News and Fox Business news

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 15, 2016

Donald Trump wrongly says Hillary Clinton wants to raise taxes on the middle class

Hillary Clinton just admitted to a big tax hike, at least according to Donald Trump.

The Trump campaign sent an email blast to supporters embedded with a video of a Clinton event in Omaha, Neb., entitled, "Hillary Clinton says she wants to ‘raise taxes on the middle class.’"

The subtitles of Clinton’s speech read: "Trump wants to cuts taxes for the super rich. Well, we’re not going there, my friends. I’m telling you right now, we’re going to write fairer rules for the middle class and we are going to raise taxes on the middle class."

"Wait what?" the videos continues, before playing the <snip>ing sentence in slow motion: "We are going to raise taxes on the middle class."

"Wait, what?" was the reaction of the Clinton campaign too. Spokesman Josh Schwerin told us Clinton actually said the exact opposite.

He pointed to numerous reporters who agreed and forwarded us a transcript of Clinton’s prepared remarks that reads, "We aren’t going to raise taxes on the middle class."

It’s a classic case of she-heard-he-heard, so we asked experts to arbitrate. They agreed with the Clinton camp and offered some technical evidence to prove it. Get ready for some science.

Alan Yu, a linguistics professor at the University of Chicago who specializes in phonology, ran the audio through a computer program called Praat, which analyzes phonetics.

By analyzing the sound waves, we can see that Clinton was saying "aren’t," because she definitely pronounced the "n," though she didn’t really hit the "t."

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Calling out your BS, She said " We are going to raise taxes on the middle class" no trickery involved, it's what she said.

bigbear29

I heard what she said, and it was a mistake.

 

Bottom line is there is not enough white people to vote trump into office.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 15, 2016

I heard what she said, and it was a mistake.

 

Bottom line is there is not enough white people to vote trump into office.

She didn't say she was raising taxes on the rich, Trump never said he was giving tax breaks to the rich.

You can't see what a liar she is? A mistake? Obamacare 2017 is going to crush middle America, think real hard .

All she did was throw class envy at the masses, making people jealous of what other have, it was slight of hand and the dim wit seals went ort ! ort! ort!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 15, 2016

I heard what she said, and it was a mistake.

 

Bottom line is there is not enough white people to vote trump into office.

Hillary is a proven liar.  There's no way she can pay for all those freebies she promises without taxing the c r a p out of the middle-class.  And don't repeat that BS about taxing the 1% more.  LOL!  Even if she confiscated all their wealth, it still wouldn't pay for the trillion plus dollars she wants to spend.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Deo-nonfortuna on Aug 14, 2016

Decision 2016? There u go, the two ZOG-controlled flunkies. Regardless of who wins, the same cabal is in control.

Don't play with them Danny.

hillary-trump-jew-twins-dees

This is really beyond good taste.

bigbear29

Still, bottom line, is there is not enough white people to vote trump into office.  Now he needs, blacks, hispanics and the muslim community.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

That kind of mistake is what's known as a Freudian slip.

 Oops!

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 15, 2016

Donald Trump wrongly says Hillary Clinton wants to raise taxes on the middle class

Hillary Clinton just admitted to a big tax hike, at least according to Donald Trump.

The Trump campaign sent an email blast to supporters embedded with a video of a Clinton event in Omaha, Neb., entitled, "Hillary Clinton says she wants to ‘raise taxes on the middle class.’"

The subtitles of Clinton’s speech read: "Trump wants to cuts taxes for the super rich. Well, we’re not going there, my friends. I’m telling you right now, we’re going to write fairer rules for the middle class and we are going to raise taxes on the middle class."

"Wait what?" the videos continues, before playing the <snip>ing sentence in slow motion: "We are going to raise taxes on the middle class."

"Wait, what?" was the reaction of the Clinton campaign too. Spokesman Josh Schwerin told us Clinton actually said the exact opposite.

He pointed to numerous reporters who agreed and forwarded us a transcript of Clinton’s prepared remarks that reads, "We aren’t going to raise taxes on the middle class."

It’s a classic case of she-heard-he-heard, so we asked experts to arbitrate. They agreed with the Clinton camp and offered some technical evidence to prove it. Get ready for some science.

Alan Yu, a linguistics professor at the University of Chicago who specializes in phonology, ran the audio through a computer program called Praat, which analyzes phonetics.

By analyzing the sound waves, we can see that Clinton was saying "aren’t," because she definitely pronounced the "n," though she didn’t really hit the "t."

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She can make both sounds at the same time...cause she speaks with a forked tongue !

bigbear29

Their is Hillary and their is trump, my bernie is out.  Trump is not going to get enough votes to win.  If trump had knowledge of how to run the United States, released his taxes, and had some foreign policy knowledge, he might have a chance.  Trump does not get it!  How many times are they going to tell trump to stick to the message!  How many times will someone have to explain what trump meant to say or was trying to say.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by haymaker on Aug 15, 2016

She can make both sounds at the same time...cause she speaks with a forked tongue !

Lol lol So true!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 15, 2016

Still, bottom line, is there is not enough white people to vote trump into office.  Now he needs, blacks, hispanics and the muslim community.

What does color have to do with it? I'm Chippewa .

Whites out number black people 7-1, where are you getting your stats?

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 15, 2016

Lol Too funny. I and many others in this country have taken similar oaths. Are you naive enough to think when people take oaths, they never lie? You have provided my laugh for the day since I home sick. Lol

Hi Artist77

Get well soon...sometimes it just takes a day off.  Smile

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 15, 2016

Their is Hillary and their is trump, my bernie is out.  Trump is not going to get enough votes to win.  If trump had knowledge of how to run the United States, released his taxes, and had some foreign policy knowledge, he might have a chance.  Trump does not get it!  How many times are they going to tell trump to stick to the message!  How many times will someone have to explain what trump meant to say or was trying to say.

The Liberal media is deliberately giving twisted messages.

Do what you want seal, ort ort ort.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 15, 2016

She didn't say she was raising taxes on the rich, Trump never said he was giving tax breaks to the rich.

You can't see what a liar she is? A mistake? Obamacare 2017 is going to crush middle America, think real hard .

All she did was throw class envy at the masses, making people jealous of what other have, it was slight of hand and the dim wit seals went ort ! ort! ort!

http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/09/news/economy/trump-tax-rich/

Obamacare is a far-right fairy tale created by the extremist Heritage Foundation. WE NEED REAL HEALTH CARE

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

How many times will someone have to explain what trump meant to say or was trying to say.

I'm certainly no Trump fan, but what he says doesn't bother me nearly as much as what Hillary has done.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 15, 2016

I heard what she said, and it was a mistake.

 

Bottom line is there is not enough white people to vote trump into office.

The Electoral College goes state by state. the Republican party has systematically isolated itself into a handful of states and stubbornly refuses to make the necessary changes to be competitive in states that they really need.

bigbear29

black votes for trump, 2 %

hispanic votes for trump, 5%

muslim votes for trump, 10%

May-be if all white people voted for trump, may-be, but that is not going to happen.

 

The biggest thing for me is we need someone that is going to bring people together, and that is Hillary.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 15, 2016

http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/09/news/economy/trump-tax-rich/

Obamacare is a far-right fairy tale created by the extremist Heritage Foundation. WE NEED REAL HEALTH CARE

No , I have great health care, we work for it, you don't. You want ..

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! LAZY.

bigbear29

Yes, that is totally correct, Kingofearth.  Also, Trump is not spending the money for massive nation wide tv ads.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 15, 2016

No , I have great health care, we work for it, you don't. You want ..

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! LAZY.

Green laughYou really think anything in this world is for free?

Everyone pays in, everyone gets what they need. Not this bull called "private insurance".

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 15, 2016

Green laughYou really think anything in this world is for free?

Everyone pays in, everyone gets what they need. Not this bull called "private insurance".

Your so full of it we need air freshener, you want Freeeeee, you want someone else to pay in for you.

I shouldn't have to pay for anyone's else's anything. PERIOD!

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 15, 2016

black votes for trump, 2 %

hispanic votes for trump, 5%

muslim votes for trump, 10%

May-be if all white people voted for trump, may-be, but that is not going to happen.

 

The biggest thing for me is we need someone that is going to bring people together, and that is Hillary.

Romney won Whites by about 20 points

Vermont is 95% White

Romney won Vermont......

Obama won Blacks by 80 something points and Hispanics by 60 something points

Texas's Black and Hispanic populations are the majority in the state

Obama won Texas.........

The Reps need to appeal to Hispanic New Mexicans, Black North Carolinians, White Iowans, not some national numbers contest.

bigbear29

Trump is not doing that, he is pushing people apart.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 15, 2016

Your so full of it we need air freshener, you want Freeeeee, you want someone else to pay in for you.

I shouldn't have to pay for anyone's else's anything. PERIOD!

Who paid for your childhood education? 

Who paid to ensure all the food you ate was safe during your childhood?

Who paid for the emergency services that made sure you were safe?

Oh yes, i'm working my butt off trying to find a job (hopefully i get the one I'm trying for now) so i can have other people pay for me.

bigbear29

I don't think anyone wants anything free, the wealth in the USA does not trickle down.  Company CEO makes the wrong decision from greed.  Who pays for that decision, the workers (layoffs).  HP is a very good example of that.  People need a job with a living wage.  And still today, HP is still today, HPis trying to buy other companies after letting go over 60,000 employees.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 15, 2016

Who paid for your childhood education? 

Who paid to ensure all the food you ate was safe during your childhood?

Who paid for the emergency services that made sure you were safe?

Oh yes, i'm working my butt off trying to find a job (hopefully i get the one I'm trying for now) so i can have other people pay for me.

My parents, they are tax payers.

Trying to find a job, BS You spend your time on line goofing off, and guessing from your porno concerns, you spend a lot of time j$@$^^&&ing off.

bigbear29

I just don't get trump, he was behind Bush and Obama as far as pulling the troops out.  Now he states after the fact, they should not have don't that.  TOTAL FLIP-FLOPPER!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 15, 2016

I don't think anyone wants anything free, the wealth in the USA does not trickle down.  Company CEO makes the wrong decision from greed.  Who pays for that decision, the workers (layoffs).  HP is a very good example of that.  People need a job with a living wage.  And still today, HP is still today, HPis trying to buy other companies after letting go over 60,000 employees.

That's what happens when the middle class doesn't have the money to spend, if you don't like a CEO'S SALARY DON'T SUPPORT THAT COMPANY.

bigbear29

Some employees at HP didn't have that choice to just jump up and switch jobs.  I know some software engineers at HP that were sent overseas to train other people at a company that HP bought.  And when they returned home, they were let go about two or three weeks later.  Those are the other jobs that should not be sent overseas.

bigbear29

Trump changes course on NATO now.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 15, 2016

Trump changes course on NATO now.

Bill raped multiple women and Hillary sold favors to foreigners as SOS.   Yea, I'm worried about what Trump said about NATO.  LOL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 15, 2016

Green laughGreen laughGreen laughGreen laughGreen laugh

Mr Make everything Overseas doesn't give a crap about anybody or anything except his wallet. The main choices are 1) a very successful and wealthy greed filled center-right politician vs 2) a very successful and wealthy greed filled center-right politician. Simple as that. The only people who actually would push real change are third party candidates like Johnson and Stein.

Hey King... Jill Stein is crazy.  I have two points...

Number one... Jill Stein is a doctor and as such I'm sure she makes good money, can you tell us how much of HER money she donates to the poor?

Number two... Did you know she wants to prosecute oil company executives for lying about global warming?  That's the nut job you want as President?

bigbear29

Trump, release your taxes!  I bet trump has not paid any taxes for years.  Get rid of tax loop holes for the rich.  So, how do we pay for a better military?   Mmmmm, off the backs of the middle class hard working people.  Trump, release your taxes and no more tax loop holes for the rich.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 15, 2016

Trump, release your taxes!  I bet trump has not paid any taxes for years.  Get rid of tax loop holes for the rich.  So, how do we pay for a better military?   Mmmmm, off the backs of the middle class hard working people.  Trump, release your taxes and no more tax loop holes for the rich.

You don't pay taxes, but you want to make sure someone else is?  Weird.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 15, 2016

My parents, they are tax payers.

Trying to find a job, BS You spend your time on line goofing off, and guessing from your porno concerns, you spend a lot of time j$@$^^&&ing off.

Everyone pays in, everyone gets out what they need. Capitalism is like fire, it's good in certain very controlled situations. Socialism is like water, too much or too little and you're dead.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 15, 2016

Everyone pays in, everyone gets out what they need. Capitalism is like fire, it's good in certain very controlled situations. Socialism is like water, too much or too little and you're dead.

Got tired of your porn or job searching?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 15, 2016

Hey King... Jill Stein is crazy.  I have two points...

Number one... Jill Stein is a doctor and as such I'm sure she makes good money, can you tell us how much of HER money she donates to the poor?

Number two... Did you know she wants to prosecute oil company executives for lying about global warming?  That's the nut job you want as President?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjreilly/2016/08/11/jill-stein-releases-2015-federal-tax-return/#498f96b24d3a

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_ZDQKq2F08

Tell us how false data about climate change is any different than false data about cigarettes? I'm not gonna say whether they lied or not because i believe in innocent until proven guilty, but to prosecute them wouldn't be an unprecedented move by the government against a powerful industry.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 15, 2016

What does color have to do with it? I'm Chippewa .

Whites out number black people 7-1, where are you getting your stats?

According to the U.S. census, 61.6% of the estimate 321,418,820 Americans are white, 17.6% are Hispanic/Latino, and 13.3% are black. Doing the really simple math, 42,748 703 Americans are black and 197,993,993 are white meaning the actual ratio is less than 5 to 1.

Where are you getting your stats?

bigbear29

Where did you get that from that I don't pay taxes?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 15, 2016

Trump changes course on NATO now.

Hillary is bought and paid for. 

A vote for her is a vote for eventual shari'a law. 

I don't want to live in a hell hole of a theocracy because our 'fellow citizens' couldn't see it coming.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 15, 2016

According to the U.S. census, 61.6% of the estimate 321,418,820 Americans are white, 17.6% are Hispanic/Latino, and 13.3% are black. Doing the really simple math, 42,748 703 Americans are black and 197,993,993 are white meaning the actual ratio is less than 5 to 1.

Where are you getting your stats?

older stats.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 15, 2016

Hillary is bought and paid for. 

A vote for her is a vote for eventual shari'a law. 

I don't want to live in a hell hole of a theocracy because our 'fellow citizens' couldn't see it coming.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/03/north-carolina-religion-bill_n_3003401.html

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/when-fascism-comes-to-america-it-will-be-cloaked-in-patriotism/

Sharia law in America will not come preaching burqas and qurans, it will come preaching Jesus and bibles

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 14, 2016

If Al Gore had won, we would already be under Sharia law.

Dc said "The only results that count, are the votes that are cast on Election Day !!!" and I pointed out that Al Gore got more votes on election day.

"If Al Gore had won"

But he didn't so what's your point?

"we would already be under Sharia law."

ROFL

I gave a link to the U.S. Constitution and had you read Article 5,

"The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate."

Meaning the President on his own can't repeal the First Amendment and place the country under Leviticus or Sharia law.

It's the same as the NRA promoting mass ignorance by suggesting any President could take our Second Amendment Rights. It takes 290 Representatives, 67 Senators and 38 states to repeal an Amendment.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 15, 2016

Hillary is bought and paid for. 

A vote for her is a vote for eventual shari'a law. 

I don't want to live in a hell hole of a theocracy because our 'fellow citizens' couldn't see it coming.

Nobody should be surprised by this example of Constitutional illiteracy. ROFL

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 15, 2016

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/03/north-carolina-religion-bill_n_3003401.html

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/when-fascism-comes-to-america-it-will-be-cloaked-in-patriotism/

Sharia law in America will not come preaching burqas and qurans, it will come preaching Jesus and bibles

Nice source, forward progress. 

Sharia law will come with the 'refugees; we let in that already want to kill us and hate our country. 

Here's a news flash for you, they want you just as dead as they want the rest of us.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 15, 2016

older stats.

The 7 to 1 stat you probably saw was the percentage of black Americans which is 1 in 7.5.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 15, 2016

Nobody should be surprised by this example of Constitutional illiteracy. ROFL

Gee, and I thought you were smart enough to know by bought and paid for I meant all the money from the Middle East that went to the Clinton Foundation. 

Oh well I won't open one of your posts for another six months. 

Life is better that way. 

 

Now go get ya some grits.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 16, 2016

Nice source, forward progress. 

Sharia law will come with the 'refugees; we let in that already want to kill us and hate our country. 

Here's a news flash for you, they want you just as dead as they want the rest of us.

Green laughI'm not a fan of letting stone age barbarians into the country, but you really think no one would notice that happening?

The liberals (center-right) like Obama and Hillary think the stone age people will grow out of the nonsense they are taught. 

America will never have an Islamic theocracy, but it's on a fast track to a Christian theocracy if we're not careful.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 15, 2016

Dc said "The only results that count, are the votes that are cast on Election Day !!!" and I pointed out that Al Gore got more votes on election day.

"If Al Gore had won"

But he didn't so what's your point?

"we would already be under Sharia law."

ROFL

I gave a link to the U.S. Constitution and had you read Article 5,

"The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate."

Meaning the President on his own can't repeal the First Amendment and place the country under Leviticus or Sharia law.

It's the same as the NRA promoting mass ignorance by suggesting any President could take our Second Amendment Rights. It takes 290 Representatives, 67 Senators and 38 states to repeal an Amendment.

Another dummy who does not know we have a representational democracy. I did not bring up the AL Gore reference.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 16, 2016

Another dummy who does not know we have a representational democracy. I did not bring up the AL Gore reference.

It's frugal to interject common sense into these progressive lefties, they preach the mainstream media and the radical democrats these organizations support.

They go through life with blinders on and won't realize what side swipes them until it's too late.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 16, 2016

Nice source, forward progress. 

Sharia law will come with the 'refugees; we let in that already want to kill us and hate our country. 

Here's a news flash for you, they want you just as dead as they want the rest of us.

He along with all the other left wing cronies think that if we're nice to them while offering government freebies that they will love us. By the time they realize they were wrong, thousands of citizens will have fallen victim to these Jihads.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 15, 2016

Dc said "The only results that count, are the votes that are cast on Election Day !!!" and I pointed out that Al Gore got more votes on election day.

"If Al Gore had won"

But he didn't so what's your point?

"we would already be under Sharia law."

ROFL

I gave a link to the U.S. Constitution and had you read Article 5,

"The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate."

Meaning the President on his own can't repeal the First Amendment and place the country under Leviticus or Sharia law.

It's the same as the NRA promoting mass ignorance by suggesting any President could take our Second Amendment Rights. It takes 290 Representatives, 67 Senators and 38 states to repeal an Amendment.

By the way, I spent a year studying constitutional law and have 2 bar licenses to show for it. People were stunned prohibition happened but it did.  And restrictions could be placed on second amendment rights to render it essentially void.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 15, 2016

Nobody should be surprised by this example of Constitutional illiteracy. ROFL

Points taken Stack.

Except when Obama decided he didn't like parts of the Constitution and signs Executive Orders.

It's not wholesale changes that people need to worry about. Nobody is going to come in and just flush whole sections of the Constitution. It's little by little, over time. Allowing illegal immigrants, a ban on this kind of gun here, or there. Then one day we look up and wonder what happened.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Read the article in Breitbart by Milo. Brlliant. Trump out flanked Dems on gay rights, etc. I think Trump's plan is brilliant. The article sums things up wonderfully.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 16, 2016

He along with all the other left wing cronies think that if we're nice to them while offering government freebies that they will love us. By the time they realize they were wrong, thousands of citizens will have fallen victim to these Jihads.

Drenicj1,

Good points on both posts.

There is this gem from Stack;

"Ronda Rousey could beat either of them."

Them meaning Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris. If I remembe right he also said she'd never lose.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 16, 2016

Read the article in Breitbart by Milo. Brlliant. Trump out flanked Dems on gay rights, etc. I think Trump's plan is brilliant. The article sums things up wonderfully.

Milo “Gays for Trump” Yiannopoulos? Brilliant? I think not.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Aug 16, 2016

Milo “Gays for Trump” Yiannopoulos? Brilliant? I think not.

The article discussed rights of women as well. Broaden your horizons.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 16, 2016

The article discussed rights of women as well. Broaden your horizons.

An article from someone who harasses women of color online would not broaden my horizon.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Aug 16, 2016

An article from someone who harasses women of color online would not broaden my horizon.

Just read the article and it made absolutely no mention of harassment towards any women.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 16, 2016

Just read the article and it made absolutely no mention of harassment towards any women.

I made no mention of him doing it in the article, he however routinely harasses people online, such as Leslie Jones.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Aug 16, 2016

I made no mention of him doing it in the article, he however routinely harasses people online, such as Leslie Jones.

Leslie Jones made repeated bigoted statements against whites. Bigotry works both ways.

bigbear29

yada yada yada yada, blah blah blah blah blah, Milo has no importance what so ever.  Trump is going to lose!  Trump is even losing his home state and that's bad.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 16, 2016

yada yada yada yada, blah blah blah blah blah, Milo has no importance what so ever.  Trump is going to lose!  Trump is even losing his home state and that's bad.

Not sure about "that's bad", but even though I'm no political analyst or expert, I'd say it was "expected".  Why do I say that?  If Hillary was the exact same person but running as a Republican and Trump had a "D" after his name, he'd win in a landslide, that's why. 

Forget Trump's income tax forms, let's see Hillary's medical reports.  She has only campaigned sporadically over the last few weeks and in several appearances, has seemed confused and unsteady.

MaximumMillions

Getting back to the lottery, will either make lottery winnings tax free?

bigbear29

More excuses about Hillary, now let's see her medical records.  Trump did this to himself, STAY ON MESSAGE! over and over again, STAY ON MESSAGE!  It might be to late, but spend the money on national ads, it is important.

Release your taxes to be transparent.  Don't talk about different races unless you are saying something positive, and yes, criminals are coming across the border.  But don't lump the whole race together.  Why would trump say, "McCain is not a hero because he got caught".  And it goes on and on.

bigbear29

Are some lottery states totally tax free?  I think some states are just the state taxes that you don't have to pay??????

sully16's avatarsully16

Screw the medical records, lets see those Emails.Evil Smile

She sold us out, she sold all of us out! Mad

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Aug 16, 2016

I made no mention of him doing it in the article, he however routinely harasses people online, such as Leslie Jones.

Leslie Jones is a known racist who is beloved by liberals. Perhaps the author had a valid point to go after her?

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Aug 16, 2016

Getting back to the lottery, will either make lottery winnings tax free?

I seriously doubt either candidate or even previous ones would even ponder the though of not taxing lottery winnings...politicians on both sides love easy money.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 16, 2016

Are some lottery states totally tax free?  I think some states are just the state taxes that you don't have to pay??????

I think in some US states there are no income taxes on lottery winnings, but you have to pay federal.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 16, 2016

I seriously doubt either candidate or even previous ones would even ponder the though of not taxing lottery winnings...politicians on both sides love easy money.

I don't agree with Leslie Jones being a racist, I do agree with your assessment of politicians liking to milk and bilk the populace.

bigbear29

I think lottery should be taxed, and close all tax loop holes for the rich.  GREED has taken over the United States.  Please, tax my lottery winnings, I still would be in a better place than working everyday.

My question would be, how is your state spending lottery taxes?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 16, 2016

I think lottery should be taxed, and close all tax loop holes for the rich.  GREED has taken over the United States.  Please, tax my lottery winnings, I still would be in a better place than working everyday.

My question would be, how is your state spending lottery taxes?

There you go again with those loop holes, they are called deductions, now mister engineer, you most certainly must use them yourself at tax time!

bigbear29

I just think if you are rich, why would you need tax loop hole/deductions?  Trump has paid 0 taxes for years and he wants to increase the military.  With who's tax money?

And I'm not rich, it would be nice so I can live a quiet life in Rancho Santa Fe, Ca, (San Diego county)

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 16, 2016

I just think if you are rich, why would you need tax loop hole/deductions?  Trump has paid 0 taxes for years and he wants to increase the military.  With who's tax money?

And I'm not rich, it would be nice so I can live a quiet life in Rancho Santa Fe, Ca, (San Diego county)

Standard deductions, your kids, mortgage interest, property tax, medical bills, other expenses.

What does taxing the rich more do for you?

They earned it, why should they be punished for being more successful?

If you're not able to make deductions, then you get whatever you paid back, which means your azz don't pay any taxes.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 16, 2016

I just think if you are rich, why would you need tax loop hole/deductions?  Trump has paid 0 taxes for years and he wants to increase the military.  With who's tax money?

And I'm not rich, it would be nice so I can live a quiet life in Rancho Santa Fe, Ca, (San Diego county)

Don't sit there and say Trump hasn't paid taxes, just because some dim wit said so.

If you go out to dinner with 20 people, do you pay the bill for all of them?

bigbear29
Highlights
  • Low-income taxpayers can't afford to take advantage of the zero percent capital gains rate.
  • The tax code lets rich people deduct interest on a second home at taxpayer expense.
  • Income of most private equity fund managers is taxed at lower capital gains rates.



Read more: http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/tax-loopholes-mainly-benefit-rich-1.aspx#ixzz4HVza47Dp
Follow us: @Bankrate on Twitter | Bankrate on Facebook

 

And trump cares about the middle class and the poor, REALLY!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 16, 2016

Highlights
  • Low-income taxpayers can't afford to take advantage of the zero percent capital gains rate.
  • The tax code lets rich people deduct interest on a second home at taxpayer expense.
  • Income of most private equity fund managers is taxed at lower capital gains rates.



Read more: http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/tax-loopholes-mainly-benefit-rich-1.aspx#ixzz4HVza47Dp
Follow us: @Bankrate on Twitter | Bankrate on Facebook

 

And trump cares about the middle class and the poor, REALLY!

Well, your girl Hillary owns 7 mansions, she deducts them, why would you vote for someone who is cheating the taxpayers.?

Besides, owning 2 ,3 or 4 homes is not cheating anyone, you sound like a jealous little girl.

Low income people are not taxpayers.

Why would you care about capital gains? you don't pay taxes.

bigbear29

I do pay taxes!  And the same goes for Hillary.  Because she is a lot better than trump.

sully16's avatarsully16

Smart people have more then one source of income, think about it bigbear. You too can have more then what you already have, you just never knew how to go about it.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 16, 2016

I do pay taxes!  And the same goes for Hillary.  Because she is a lot better than trump.

ort ort ort, mindless seal, keep you head in the sand and you will never grow, never get rich, and if you are not making enough to use deductions, then you get a refund. Hence, you not really paying taxes, you're just loaning the bloated wasteful Government your money for awhile.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 16, 2016

Another dummy who does not know we have a representational democracy. I did not bring up the AL Gore reference.

"I did not bring up the AL Gore reference."

Which part of Al Gore winning the popular vote but not the Presidency in 2002 has anything to do with Islam?

"If Al Gore had won, we would already be under Sharia law."

I guess it was useless quoting Article 5 from the U.S. Constitution.

"Another dummy"

Nice! Do you really think childish name calling will make your point or help Trump win the election?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 16, 2016

He along with all the other left wing cronies think that if we're nice to them while offering government freebies that they will love us. By the time they realize they were wrong, thousands of citizens will have fallen victim to these Jihads.

PokeIs there a brain somewhere inside that mass of fear and hate? 

I thought you "good conservative Christians" would be the first to welcome your fellow Stone Age barbarians. The center-right (liberals) thinks the stings age barbarians will grow up if they move here, they won't. They'll just turn into conservative republican leeches.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 16, 2016

"I did not bring up the AL Gore reference."

Which part of Al Gore winning the popular vote but not the Presidency in 2002 has anything to do with Islam?

"If Al Gore had won, we would already be under Sharia law."

I guess it was useless quoting Article 5 from the U.S. Constitution.

"Another dummy"

Nice! Do you really think childish name calling will make your point or help Trump win the election?

Sounds like you don't have much of a comeback there boy. Crickets as Ridge would say.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 16, 2016

Well, your girl Hillary owns 7 mansions, she deducts them, why would you vote for someone who is cheating the taxpayers.?

Besides, owning 2 ,3 or 4 homes is not cheating anyone, you sound like a jealous little girl.

Low income people are not taxpayers.

Why would you care about capital gains? you don't pay taxes.

Lol You can own a million properties and still deduct your property taxes. Legitimate deductions are legitimate per the US tax

code.  If Trump takes advantage of legal deductions, what is the problem? We have too many non working non paying libs here who are not even familiar with the tax code.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 16, 2016

Gee, and I thought you were smart enough to know by bought and paid for I meant all the money from the Middle East that went to the Clinton Foundation. 

Oh well I won't open one of your posts for another six months. 

Life is better that way. 

 

Now go get ya some grits.

"A vote for her is a vote for eventual shari'a law"

Just like your TV hero Donald (your fired) Trump, when in doubt try to scare people by saying something that can't possibly happen. And if that tactic doesn't work lie or pretend you're incredibly stupid. Like yesterday when Trump's favorite apologist Rudy Giuliani said,

"By the way, under those eight years, before Obama came along, we didn't have any successful radical Islamic terrorist attack in the United States. They all started when Clinton and Obama got into office."

Can't wait to hear Rudy tap-dancing his way out of that one. Is it a requirement the majority of Trump's advisers, advocates, and many of his supporters to suffer from dementia?

"Gee, and I thought you were smart enough to know by bought and paid for I meant all the money from the Middle East that went to the Clinton Foundation.  "

Nope, I can't read your mind (TG); can you quote the law making it illegal for that foundation to accept donations from the Middle East?

However if Paul Manafort was paid with laundered Ukraine money, The Donald will be looking for a new campaign chairman. Do you really think all your childish Clinton "red herrings" will keep intelligent people from asking why Trump wants to partner with Russia, ask them to hack U.S. private networks, and get out of NATO?

"Oh well I won't open one of your posts for another six months."

I guess you're still POed that I revealed those same Las Vegas antidotes you told for years are out of gaming books. I'm not saying you didn't work at a Vegas Casino, find it very incredible any casino employee would support Trump after what he did to the Trump Taj Mahal and ultimately to AC.

Maybe that's why Trump is down by 21 points in New Jersey.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 16, 2016

Sounds like you don't have much of a comeback there boy. Crickets as Ridge would say.

Excuse me for assuming you were looking for an intelligent non-lottery conversation. Where Trumps "blood coming out etc." comments about Megyn Kelly crickets too?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 16, 2016

PokeIs there a brain somewhere inside that mass of fear and hate? 

I thought you "good conservative Christians" would be the first to welcome your fellow Stone Age barbarians. The center-right (liberals) thinks the stings age barbarians will grow up if they move here, they won't. They'll just turn into conservative republican leeches.

Your song and dance routine is old, Put some porn on and let us adults talk.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 16, 2016

"A vote for her is a vote for eventual shari'a law"

Just like your TV hero Donald (your fired) Trump, when in doubt try to scare people by saying something that can't possibly happen. And if that tactic doesn't work lie or pretend you're incredibly stupid. Like yesterday when Trump's favorite apologist Rudy Giuliani said,

"By the way, under those eight years, before Obama came along, we didn't have any successful radical Islamic terrorist attack in the United States. They all started when Clinton and Obama got into office."

Can't wait to hear Rudy tap-dancing his way out of that one. Is it a requirement the majority of Trump's advisers, advocates, and many of his supporters to suffer from dementia?

"Gee, and I thought you were smart enough to know by bought and paid for I meant all the money from the Middle East that went to the Clinton Foundation.  "

Nope, I can't read your mind (TG); can you quote the law making it illegal for that foundation to accept donations from the Middle East?

However if Paul Manafort was paid with laundered Ukraine money, The Donald will be looking for a new campaign chairman. Do you really think all your childish Clinton "red herrings" will keep intelligent people from asking why Trump wants to partner with Russia, ask them to hack U.S. private networks, and get out of NATO?

"Oh well I won't open one of your posts for another six months."

I guess you're still POed that I revealed those same Las Vegas antidotes you told for years are out of gaming books. I'm not saying you didn't work at a Vegas Casino, find it very incredible any casino employee would support Trump after what he did to the Trump Taj Mahal and ultimately to AC.

Maybe that's why Trump is down by 21 points in New Jersey.

You need to chill on your rhetoric as you're sounding just as pathetic as your progressive friends.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

King of Derp keeps regurgitating this phrase: "conservative republican leeches" and I'm not sure why.  Since I proved WAY back in this thread that more Democrats are on welfare than Republicans, I guess Herp Derp thinks people have forgotten and he can keep on lying. 

In 11 different U.S. states today, the number of people on welfare exceeds the number of people with jobs.  This list of states includes some of the biggest states in the country: California, New York, Illinois, Ohio, Maine, Kentucky, South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama, New Mexico and Hawaii.

Seven of the 11 states went for President Barack Obama in the 2012 election; Ohio, Hawaii, Illinois, New York, Maine, California and New Mexico.  Mitt Romney was victorious in Kentucky, South Carolina, Alabama and Mississippi.

So, it seems that Republicans not only support the Democrat voters in so-called "Red" states, they do it in the biggest "Blue" ones too.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 16, 2016

Your song and dance routine is old, Put some porn on and let us adults talk.

You are doing Ridge proud! Why isn't junior looking full time for a job?  He does not want to work.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 16, 2016

King of Derp keeps regurgitating this phrase: "conservative republican leeches" and I'm not sure why.  Since I proved WAY back in this thread that more Democrats are on welfare than Republicans, I guess Herp Derp thinks people have forgotten and he can keep on lying. 

In 11 different U.S. states today, the number of people on welfare exceeds the number of people with jobs.  This list of states includes some of the biggest states in the country: California, New York, Illinois, Ohio, Maine, Kentucky, South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama, New Mexico and Hawaii.

Seven of the 11 states went for President Barack Obama in the 2012 election; Ohio, Hawaii, Illinois, New York, Maine, California and New Mexico.  Mitt Romney was victorious in Kentucky, South Carolina, Alabama and Mississippi.

So, it seems that Republicans not only support the Democrat voters in so-called "Red" states, they do it in the biggest "Blue" ones too.

He thinks if you tell a lie enough times it becomes true, or what he's hoping for is for people to believe it.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 16, 2016

You are doing Ridge proud! Why isn't junior looking full time for a job?  He does not want to work.

No, he sure doesn't .

Ridge, we miss you, we're holding down the Fort , but we need our Number 1.Lovies

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 16, 2016

He thinks if you tell a lie enough times it becomes true, or what he's hoping for is for people to believe it.

He is just reciting what he's learned from the progressive media playbook. There is no cure for stupid.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 16, 2016

By the way, I spent a year studying constitutional law and have 2 bar licenses to show for it. People were stunned prohibition happened but it did.  And restrictions could be placed on second amendment rights to render it essentially void.

"By the way, I spent a year studying constitutional law and have 2 bar licenses to show for it."

Then you ought know better than saying the Constitution allows Al Gore or Hillary Clinton to repeal the First Amendment. I see your religious comparison because the Woman's Christian Temperance Union played a huge roll in the passage of the 18th Amendment. Do you think today the American Sunni and Shiites Muslims have the same political clout as the WCTU had almost a century ago?

"And restrictions could be placed on second amendment rights to render it essentially void."

Wow, you really do believe all that anti-gun nonsense. I saw first hand what guns (and rockets, mortars, and artillery shells) can inflict on a human body, but still have no problem with reasonable people purchasing and owning legal firearms. What is unreasonable about placing restrictions on known terrorists and people on "no fly" lists?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 16, 2016

"By the way, I spent a year studying constitutional law and have 2 bar licenses to show for it."

Then you ought know better than saying the Constitution allows Al Gore or Hillary Clinton to repeal the First Amendment. I see your religious comparison because the Woman's Christian Temperance Union played a huge roll in the passage of the 18th Amendment. Do you think today the American Sunni and Shiites Muslims have the same political clout as the WCTU had almost a century ago?

"And restrictions could be placed on second amendment rights to render it essentially void."

Wow, you really do believe all that anti-gun nonsense. I saw first hand what guns (and rockets, mortars, and artillery shells) can inflict on a human body, but still have no problem with reasonable people purchasing and owning legal firearms. What is unreasonable about placing restrictions on known terrorists and people on "no fly" lists?

You contradict yourself constantly. Lol lol Get a job. Pay taxes. The way you twist things and read things that are not said, is a clear sign of mental illness.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 15, 2016

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/03/north-carolina-religion-bill_n_3003401.html

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/when-fascism-comes-to-america-it-will-be-cloaked-in-patriotism/

Sharia law in America will not come preaching burqas and qurans, it will come preaching Jesus and bibles

You sure have a hatred for Christians;  some weeks back you complained that you didn't like having religion shoved down your throat. 

As you know, I'm not religious, but I have never felt that religion was ever forced upon me.  If some preacher comes on the tube, I just change the channel.  If the Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons come to the door, I either don't answer the door or open it and politely tell them I'm not interested.  They've always gone away, either way.  "Oh, Holy Night" is one of my favorite Christmas carols. 

I wonder who actually said that about Fascism; it's most often attributed to Sinclair Lewis, but even the Sinclair Lewis Society can find nothing in his writings.

I see the term "Fascist" thrown around a lot, but it never seems to be used correctly.  I remember when the hippies and potheads of the 60's and 70's would use it in referring to the cops after getting arrested for illegally protesting or being busted for a dime bag.  It wasn't used correctly then and still isn't with that quote.

Robert Paxton, the far-left historian and "expert" on Fascism, defines it as this:

Fascism is a system of political authority and social order intended to reinforce the unity, energy, and purity of communities in which liberal democracy stands accused of producing division and decline.

He expounded:

A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.

It's ironic that Paxton, while defining Fascism, uses Fascist tactics with his labelling.

Then there's this definition that, while brief, speaks volumes: Fascism - A socialism emancipated from democracy. That shows just who is defining the word. It also should hit close to home with you and your politics. 

Franklin D. Roosevelt wrote this about Fascism: The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.

That last part, the "ownership of government", sums up the current definition. (It's also ironic coming from a President who tried his best to grab more power for his office, even going so far as to attempt to sidestep the Constitution.)  I think that would depend upon from which perspective one is viewing that particular phrase. I'm sure you would say that could apply to the Kochs, Christians and patriots. I'd counter that it could apply the same - or even more so - to George Soros, labor unions and Socialists.  If I'm correct, then it would mean your side is winning and that your accusation of Christians and patriotic Americans being fascists is really projection on your part. 

Like most leftists who use the term, it's a good thing if THEY'RE the ones having ownership of government.

I'm more inclined to accept George Orwell's explanation of what the word means: "...the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else ... Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathisers, almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come."

So, basically you're using it in place of "bully"...and in your case and others, it's anyone who won't let you have your way, who counters your insults with facts and reason. You're an immature man-child, still exhibiting the behavior of the "Terrible Twos" well into your 20's. I hope you'll be able to outgrow it someday, but I'm not holding out much hope.

Until that time, I, and others like me, will fight you every step of the way in your perverted quest to fundamentally change this great nation into something the majority of Americans do not want...nor did the Founding Fathers. We will continue to fight you, not only with words on forums such as these, but at the ballot box...and in the streets if need be.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 16, 2016

You need to chill on your rhetoric as you're sounding just as pathetic as your progressive friends.

Speaking of "pathetic", have you ever added any helpful lottery related information to LP?

Seriously, to you really believe people purchase premium memberships so they can read your opinions on how to spend imaginary winnings or how real jackpot winners should do?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 16, 2016

You sure have a hatred for Christians;  some weeks back you complained that you didn't like having religion shoved down your throat. 

As you know, I'm not religious, but I have never felt that religion was ever forced upon me.  If some preacher comes on the tube, I just change the channel.  If the Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons come to the door, I either don't answer the door or open it and politely tell them I'm not interested.  They've always gone away, either way.  "Oh, Holy Night" is one of my favorite Christmas carols. 

I wonder who actually said that about Fascism; it's most often attributed to Sinclair Lewis, but even the Sinclair Lewis Society can find nothing in his writings.

I see the term "Fascist" thrown around a lot, but it never seems to be used correctly.  I remember when the hippies and potheads of the 60's and 70's would use it in referring to the cops after getting arrested for illegally protesting or being busted for a dime bag.  It wasn't used correctly then and still isn't with that quote.

Robert Paxton, the far-left historian and "expert" on Fascism, defines it as this:

Fascism is a system of political authority and social order intended to reinforce the unity, energy, and purity of communities in which liberal democracy stands accused of producing division and decline.

He expounded:

A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.

It's ironic that Paxton, while defining Fascism, uses Fascist tactics with his labelling.

Then there's this definition that, while brief, speaks volumes: Fascism - A socialism emancipated from democracy. That shows just who is defining the word. It also should hit close to home with you and your politics. 

Franklin D. Roosevelt wrote this about Fascism: The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.

That last part, the "ownership of government", sums up the current definition. (It's also ironic coming from a President who tried his best to grab more power for his office, even going so far as to attempt to sidestep the Constitution.)  I think that would depend upon from which perspective one is viewing that particular phrase. I'm sure you would say that could apply to the Kochs, Christians and patriots. I'd counter that it could apply the same - or even more so - to George Soros, labor unions and Socialists.  If I'm correct, then it would mean your side is winning and that your accusation of Christians and patriotic Americans being fascists is really projection on your part. 

Like most leftists who use the term, it's a good thing if THEY'RE the ones having ownership of government.

I'm more inclined to accept George Orwell's explanation of what the word means: "...the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else ... Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathisers, almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come."

So, basically you're using it in place of "bully"...and in your case and others, it's anyone who won't let you have your way, who counters your insults with facts and reason. You're an immature man-child, still exhibiting the behavior of the "Terrible Twos" well into your 20's. I hope you'll be able to outgrow it someday, but I'm not holding out much hope.

Until that time, I, and others like me, will fight you every step of the way in your perverted quest to fundamentally change this great nation into something the majority of Americans do not want...nor did the Founding Fathers. We will continue to fight you, not only with words on forums such as these, but at the ballot box...and in the streets if need be.

Great post Mike.

 

As Churchill said...we shall fight them on the beaches....we shall fight them on the fields....we will never surrender.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 16, 2016

Speaking of "pathetic", have you ever added any helpful lottery related information to LP?

Seriously, to you really believe people purchase premium memberships so they can read your opinions on how to spend imaginary winnings or how real jackpot winners should do?

Sounds like Drenick put you in your place. This news story thread has provided a chance for people to vent on political issues. Todd is a smart cookie.

Drenick has just as much right to weigh in on how to spend imaginary winnings just as many others have done and will do. You are not superior to anyone on LP. You sound like such a wimpy, scared, bigoted, temper tantrum throwing child.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 16, 2016

You contradict yourself constantly. Lol lol Get a job. Pay taxes. The way you twist things and read things that are not said, is a clear sign of mental illness.

"The way you twist things and read things that are not said, is a clear sign of mental illness."

I thought you said you were a licensed bar tender. Is pretending to be a physiologist another of your delusions?

You missed my question about the Trumps remarks about Megyn Kelly. Do you agree with what Trump said?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 16, 2016

"The way you twist things and read things that are not said, is a clear sign of mental illness."

I thought you said you were a licensed bar tender. Is pretending to be a physiologist another of your delusions?

You missed my question about the Trumps remarks about Megyn Kelly. Do you agree with what Trump said?

Lol I take it you aspired to be an attorney...but realized you could not get into any decent college. You seem to want to be a wanna be legal expert but your performance is embarrassing. Yes, my college class on abnormal psych was very valuable. You resent any woman who is better educated than you will ever be. Get a job. Bigot.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 16, 2016

Sounds like Drenick put you in your place. This news story thread has provided a chance for people to vent on political issues. Todd is a smart cookie.

Drenick has just as much right to weigh in on how to spend imaginary winnings just as many others have done and will do. You are not superior to anyone on LP. You sound like such a wimpy, scared, bigoted, temper tantrum throwing child.

"Drenick has just as much right to weigh in on how to spend imaginary winnings just as many others have done and will do."

Show me where I said Drenick or anybody else has no right to post regardless of their membership.

"You are not superior to anyone on LP."

Neither are you so what's your point?

"You sound like such a wimpy, scared, bigoted, temper tantrum throwing child."

With these childish comments, you're probably not old enough to go into a bar.

"By the way, I spent a year studying constitutional law and have 2 bar licenses to show for it"

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

Excuse me for laughing but I never read or heard of a real attorney say they "have 2 bar licenses". But hey, because you said it on the Internet, it has to be true, right?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 16, 2016

You sure have a hatred for Christians;  some weeks back you complained that you didn't like having religion shoved down your throat. 

As you know, I'm not religious, but I have never felt that religion was ever forced upon me.  If some preacher comes on the tube, I just change the channel.  If the Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons come to the door, I either don't answer the door or open it and politely tell them I'm not interested.  They've always gone away, either way.  "Oh, Holy Night" is one of my favorite Christmas carols. 

I wonder who actually said that about Fascism; it's most often attributed to Sinclair Lewis, but even the Sinclair Lewis Society can find nothing in his writings.

I see the term "Fascist" thrown around a lot, but it never seems to be used correctly.  I remember when the hippies and potheads of the 60's and 70's would use it in referring to the cops after getting arrested for illegally protesting or being busted for a dime bag.  It wasn't used correctly then and still isn't with that quote.

Robert Paxton, the far-left historian and "expert" on Fascism, defines it as this:

Fascism is a system of political authority and social order intended to reinforce the unity, energy, and purity of communities in which liberal democracy stands accused of producing division and decline.

He expounded:

A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.

It's ironic that Paxton, while defining Fascism, uses Fascist tactics with his labelling.

Then there's this definition that, while brief, speaks volumes: Fascism - A socialism emancipated from democracy. That shows just who is defining the word. It also should hit close to home with you and your politics. 

Franklin D. Roosevelt wrote this about Fascism: The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.

That last part, the "ownership of government", sums up the current definition. (It's also ironic coming from a President who tried his best to grab more power for his office, even going so far as to attempt to sidestep the Constitution.)  I think that would depend upon from which perspective one is viewing that particular phrase. I'm sure you would say that could apply to the Kochs, Christians and patriots. I'd counter that it could apply the same - or even more so - to George Soros, labor unions and Socialists.  If I'm correct, then it would mean your side is winning and that your accusation of Christians and patriotic Americans being fascists is really projection on your part. 

Like most leftists who use the term, it's a good thing if THEY'RE the ones having ownership of government.

I'm more inclined to accept George Orwell's explanation of what the word means: "...the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else ... Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathisers, almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come."

So, basically you're using it in place of "bully"...and in your case and others, it's anyone who won't let you have your way, who counters your insults with facts and reason. You're an immature man-child, still exhibiting the behavior of the "Terrible Twos" well into your 20's. I hope you'll be able to outgrow it someday, but I'm not holding out much hope.

Until that time, I, and others like me, will fight you every step of the way in your perverted quest to fundamentally change this great nation into something the majority of Americans do not want...nor did the Founding Fathers. We will continue to fight you, not only with words on forums such as these, but at the ballot box...and in the streets if need be.

Good post Mike, Man-child is right.

When the Jehovah witnesses show up I tell them I'm getting ready to cast a spell and could they help form a Pentagram, they run....Bruuuhahahahahahaha

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 16, 2016

"Drenick has just as much right to weigh in on how to spend imaginary winnings just as many others have done and will do."

Show me where I said Drenick or anybody else has no right to post regardless of their membership.

"You are not superior to anyone on LP."

Neither are you so what's your point?

"You sound like such a wimpy, scared, bigoted, temper tantrum throwing child."

With these childish comments, you're probably not old enough to go into a bar.

"By the way, I spent a year studying constitutional law and have 2 bar licenses to show for it"

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

Excuse me for laughing but I never read or heard of a real attorney say they "have 2 bar licenses". But hey, because you said it on the Internet, it has to be true, right?

Lol you are an idiot. It is common in many areas, including DC, for attorneys to have both a DC Bar license and a first one from another state.  I doubt you have had any interaction with attorneys. Did you ever look at letters from counsel and pleadings? If an attorney is in DC and licensed in another jurisdiction, they have to have all pleadings co-signed by another firm counsel with DC bar membership. Thus, most end up with 2 state bar licenses sooner than later. Most firms give you 18 months to obtain your DC license. I doubt you even have  a  GED.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 16, 2016

Speaking of "pathetic", have you ever added any helpful lottery related information to LP?

Seriously, to you really believe people purchase premium memberships so they can read your opinions on how to spend imaginary winnings or how real jackpot winners should do?

I almost forgot, Stack is a big winner, PM him and ask his secret formula, I had it once and lost it, so if he gives it to you, please share with me.Smile

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 16, 2016

I almost forgot, Stack is a big winner, PM him and ask his secret formula, I had it once and lost it, so if he gives it to you, please share with me.Smile

Lol lol. His formula is based on chapters he forgot to read in his GED class.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 16, 2016

Lol I take it you aspired to be an attorney...but realized you could not get into any decent college. You seem to want to be a wanna be legal expert but your performance is embarrassing. Yes, my college class on abnormal psych was very valuable. You resent any woman who is better educated than you will ever be. Get a job. Bigot.

"Lol I take it you aspired to be an attorney..."

Nope, never crossed my mind; not in real life or on Internet message boards. LOL

"but realized you could not get into any decent college."

While it's very difficult for your childish mind to comprehend, but why would anybody apply to any law school if they didn't want to be an attorney?

"You seem to want to be a wanna be legal expert"

Which part of "nope" is confusing you?

"Yes, my college class on abnormal psych was very valuable."

ROFL Note to self; never take a drink while reading Internet BS.

"You resent any woman who is better educated than you will ever be."

Are you talking to me or the anti-Hillary people because that applies much more to them?

Considering all the anti-Trump stuff I posted, even the village idiot would conclude I'm a Clinton supporter. But I'm betting you  still can't understand why your comment makes no sense.

Still waiting for an answer on the question about the Trumps remarks on Megyn Kelly. Do you think Trump resent any woman who is better educated than he will ever be, genius?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 16, 2016

Lol lol. His formula is based on chapters he forgot to read in his GED class.

Rule number one, never tell anyone you won.Green laugh

That's why I have a premium Membership to learn all the cool stuff.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 16, 2016

Good post Mike, Man-child is right.

When the Jehovah witnesses show up I tell them I'm getting ready to cast a spell and could they help form a Pentagram, they run....Bruuuhahahahahahaha

I have a number of coworkers that are Jehovah Witnesses and they are great workers and very honest. But when other ones came to my door, I tell them I am Catholic and they go away. When I was a kid, they went door to door all the time and a neighbor used to tell them he did not witness the accident Jehovah had. Lol lol

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Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 16, 2016

I have a number of coworkers that are Jehovah Witnesses and they are great workers and very honest. But when other ones came to my door, I tell them I am Catholic and they go away. When I was a kid, they went door to door all the time and a neighbor used to tell them he did not witness the accident Jehovah had. Lol lol

lol

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 16, 2016

"Lol I take it you aspired to be an attorney..."

Nope, never crossed my mind; not in real life or on Internet message boards. LOL

"but realized you could not get into any decent college."

While it's very difficult for your childish mind to comprehend, but why would anybody apply to any law school if they didn't want to be an attorney?

"You seem to want to be a wanna be legal expert"

Which part of "nope" is confusing you?

"Yes, my college class on abnormal psych was very valuable."

ROFL Note to self; never take a drink while reading Internet BS.

"You resent any woman who is better educated than you will ever be."

Are you talking to me or the anti-Hillary people because that applies much more to them?

Considering all the anti-Trump stuff I posted, even the village idiot would conclude I'm a Clinton supporter. But I'm betting you  still can't understand why your comment makes no sense.

Still waiting for an answer on the question about the Trumps remarks on Megyn Kelly. Do you think Trump resent any woman who is better educated than he will ever be, genius?

And would you please get a real avatar, blank face guy is annoying.

When you not busy answering you PM'S.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 16, 2016

I almost forgot, Stack is a big winner, PM him and ask his secret formula, I had it once and lost it, so if he gives it to you, please share with me.Smile

You keep saying how much you miss the guy from TN, but obviously you know nothing about him. He thought I won a huge jackpot when he PMed me about four years ago asking for playing advice, but my playing strategy was "too rich" for his blood.

Bet you don't even know his real first name.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 16, 2016

You keep saying how much you miss the guy from TN, but obviously you know nothing about him. He thought I won a huge jackpot when he PMed me about four years ago asking for playing advice, but my playing strategy was "too rich" for his blood.

Bet you don't even know his real first name.

I do know his name, and I know very personal info, I will not ever share that with anyone.

I am very loyal to him, I will never share what I know, ever...

Now get that new avatar, you used to be fun, you can be fun again if you try.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 16, 2016

I do know his name, and I know very personal info, I will not ever share that with anyone.

I am very loyal to him, I will never share what I know, ever...

Now get that new avatar, you used to be fun, you can be fun again if you try.

I know his first name also. I cannot imagine Ridge pm'ing that moron for playing advice. He really does have delusions of grandeur. He is sooooooo jealous of Ridge.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 16, 2016

I know his first name also. I cannot imagine Ridge pm'ing that moron for playing advice. He really does have delusions of grandeur. He is sooooooo jealous of Ridge.

I miss him, well I got to go fix some food or my men folk. Hyper

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Aug 16, 2016

Getting back to the lottery, will either make lottery winnings tax free?

Never happen in the U.S.

Bang Head

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 16, 2016

Green laughI'm not a fan of letting stone age barbarians into the country, but you really think no one would notice that happening?

The liberals (center-right) like Obama and Hillary think the stone age people will grow out of the nonsense they are taught. 

America will never have an Islamic theocracy, but it's on a fast track to a Christian theocracy if we're not careful.

Yeah, sure Kingofearth. We've go the religious pokice carrying whips and ready to flog anyone who won't way the conversion prayer, cutting off the hands of children, followers committing 'honor killings;, etc....

Call Guinness's Book of World Records and get yourself i there for your level of having been brainwashed.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 16, 2016

Lol you are an idiot. It is common in many areas, including DC, for attorneys to have both a DC Bar license and a first one from another state.  I doubt you have had any interaction with attorneys. Did you ever look at letters from counsel and pleadings? If an attorney is in DC and licensed in another jurisdiction, they have to have all pleadings co-signed by another firm counsel with DC bar membership. Thus, most end up with 2 state bar licenses sooner than later. Most firms give you 18 months to obtain your DC license. I doubt you even have  a  GED.

"Lol you are an idiot."

It's obviously impossible for you to post without making childish insults. Is calling people "idiots" on message boards just a "DC attorney thing"?

"I doubt you have had any interaction with attorneys."

With real lawyer, yes but not with you pretend lawyers.

"Did you ever look at letters from counsel and pleadings?"

Less than an hour ago I said I never aspired to be an attorney. Dementia, ADHD, which is it?

"Most firms give you 18 months to obtain your DC license. I doubt you even have  a  GED."

Well how about that! Bet you have lots more useless information.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 16, 2016

Rule number one, never tell anyone you won.Green laugh

That's why I have a premium Membership to learn all the cool stuff.

Many years ago (maybe 10), Emily gave me a one month premium membership as a gift and I renewed it because how easy it is to use the wheels. Made a few four number matches playing Ohio Rolling Cash 5 that more than enough paid to continue renewing my premium membership. When I moved to KY tinkered with the Inspector 4, saw something, and caught a box hit and won enough to pay for a premium membership for years.

IMO, there are too many numbers in both the MM and PB matrix for any serious play so my chances of winning will be in the few time I buy some QPs when the jackpot is near the "must win" level.

I don't have any problems with standard members, but believe those with premium membership serious lottery players.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 16, 2016

King of Derp keeps regurgitating this phrase: "conservative republican leeches" and I'm not sure why.  Since I proved WAY back in this thread that more Democrats are on welfare than Republicans, I guess Herp Derp thinks people have forgotten and he can keep on lying. 

In 11 different U.S. states today, the number of people on welfare exceeds the number of people with jobs.  This list of states includes some of the biggest states in the country: California, New York, Illinois, Ohio, Maine, Kentucky, South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama, New Mexico and Hawaii.

Seven of the 11 states went for President Barack Obama in the 2012 election; Ohio, Hawaii, Illinois, New York, Maine, California and New Mexico.  Mitt Romney was victorious in Kentucky, South Carolina, Alabama and Mississippi.

So, it seems that Republicans not only support the Democrat voters in so-called "Red" states, they do it in the biggest "Blue" ones too.

I went through each and every point you made and proved each and every one WRONG (except Davy Crockett)

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 16, 2016

Your song and dance routine is old, Put some porn on and let us adults talk.

When you have no defense, you just insult.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 16, 2016

Yeah, sure Kingofearth. We've go the religious pokice carrying whips and ready to flog anyone who won't way the conversion prayer, cutting off the hands of children, followers committing 'honor killings;, etc....

Call Guinness's Book of World Records and get yourself i there for your level of having been brainwashed.

We did have religious police in the early colonial era. Then the people grew out of it. As you can see on this forum, the right wing is de-evolving back into that era.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 16, 2016

King of Derp keeps regurgitating this phrase: "conservative republican leeches" and I'm not sure why.  Since I proved WAY back in this thread that more Democrats are on welfare than Republicans, I guess Herp Derp thinks people have forgotten and he can keep on lying. 

In 11 different U.S. states today, the number of people on welfare exceeds the number of people with jobs.  This list of states includes some of the biggest states in the country: California, New York, Illinois, Ohio, Maine, Kentucky, South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama, New Mexico and Hawaii.

Seven of the 11 states went for President Barack Obama in the 2012 election; Ohio, Hawaii, Illinois, New York, Maine, California and New Mexico.  Mitt Romney was victorious in Kentucky, South Carolina, Alabama and Mississippi.

So, it seems that Republicans not only support the Democrat voters in so-called "Red" states, they do it in the biggest "Blue" ones too.

Rule I in academics, CITE OR IT'S WRONG. If you went to high school, you would know that.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 16, 2016

When you have no defense, you just insult.

No, I just really tired of you, you're a broken record , a bad one at that.

destinycreation

We should thank TODD for allowing this thread to evolve into non lottery related political venting.  It is less than 100 days until the 2016 Presidential Election, and a lot of people are very psychologically wound up, and need an escape valve to release tension.

dr65's avatardr65

Didn't you suspect the day this new story was posted that it would turn into what it is now?

Three factors here...bets, opponents and opinions. Perfect evolution. Todd probably expected

it too.

Romancandle's avatarRomancandle

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 16, 2016

Didn't you suspect the day this new story was posted that it would turn into what it is now?

Three factors here...bets, opponents and opinions. Perfect evolution. Todd probably expected

it too.

No, I didn't suspect it.

It is definitely an interesting thread as long as you can wade through the boorish behavior of a few.

The volley of insults hurled if you dont share similar views... Crazy...

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Jul 26, 2016

No doubt- after Todd cleaned house of politics than invaded a thread a little while ago, this should please those who are into politics big time. 

     Todd Always Thinking Ahead............................Party

       psyko always thinking........Behind  Jack-in-the-Box

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 16, 2016

We did have religious police in the early colonial era. Then the people grew out of it. As you can see on this forum, the right wing is de-evolving back into that era.

That's like comparing the Crusades to modern day radical islam atrocities.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

destinycreation, dr65, Romancandle,

Actually the posts are within the thread title.

Who is booking action on the US election, the BC Lottery, no?

That's a stretch but not too much of one. 

There was a time in Vegas you could bet on almost anything, the El Cortez offered a $1M payoff for a $1 bet on a piece of Skylab landing on the roof of the Hotel. People made the bets just to keep the ticket as a souvenir. 

But then the series Dallas had the Who Shot JR episode coming up and the casino bosses got real concerned about collusion among the writers and Hollywood people and restricted everything to sporting events, for a while anyway.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Aug 16, 2016

Points taken Stack.

Except when Obama decided he didn't like parts of the Constitution and signs Executive Orders.

It's not wholesale changes that people need to worry about. Nobody is going to come in and just flush whole sections of the Constitution. It's little by little, over time. Allowing illegal immigrants, a ban on this kind of gun here, or there. Then one day we look up and wonder what happened.

Read somewhere that Obama signed 923 executive orders in his first three years, but found out it was the usual Internet gross exaggeration. The number was 147 and less than Gerald Ford in his short time as President. Ford's first executive order (pardoning Nixon) pretty much summed up his presidency. Eisenhower was the last President with over 400.

"Allowing illegal immigrants,"

The problem now is many people have entered the country illegally, lived here for years, and had children born here creating another problem because their are U.S. citizens. I live in horse country and can only guess at the number of illegals I see every day. The solution is in the hands of the Republican controlled Congress.

"a ban on this kind of gun here, or there. Then one day we look up and wonder what happened."

There was ban on guns in the city limits of Tombstone, Arizona in 1880 so it's not like that idea took hold and the majority of the country demanded a repeal of the Second Amendment. If the Bill of Rights only applies to U.S. citizens, than only U.S. citizens can purchase legal firearms. But if it applies to everybody in the U.S., the only restriction should be the type. None of us wants a 105 howitzer pointed at our homes.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 16, 2016

Drenicj1,

Good points on both posts.

There is this gem from Stack;

"Ronda Rousey could beat either of them."

Them meaning Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris. If I remembe right he also said she'd never lose.

"If I remembe right"

That's your problem, you rely on your faulty memory that can't remember Bruce Lee died 14 years before Rhonda was born. I'm not knocking Chuck Norris, but only a fool would think at age 76 he could beat any well trained 29 year-old female athlete.

"he also said she'd never lose."

Sad that some people suffer from dementia and then want to argue whatever goofy thing they "think" someone said. My only response in the "Chuck Norris or Bruce Lee?" thread was Ronda Rousey could beat either of them. But to answer your second question, the game has changed so much since the days of Norris and Lee, the best pound for pound is debatable.

Asking who was tougher between Norris or Lee is like redundantly talking about spending imaginary jackpot winnings. Is your all time favorite Little Rascals episode is "Who is stronger, Tarzan or Flash Gordon?"

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Aug 16, 2016

We should thank TODD for allowing this thread to evolve into non lottery related political venting.  It is less than 100 days until the 2016 Presidential Election, and a lot of people are very psychologically wound up, and need an escape valve to release tension.

With the exception of the juvenile insults, there is lots of good information.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 16, 2016

I went through each and every point you made and proved each and every one WRONG (except Davy Crockett)

No, you didn't.  You are a pathological liar.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 16, 2016

Rule I in academics, CITE OR IT'S WRONG. If you went to high school, you would know that.

Why should I? You seldom do.  You go look it up...that is, unless you don't know how, then I'd be willing to teach you how to research a topic.  Someone sure needs to educate you, you sure got ripped off at college.

Now you're making up rules, just like your "facts". 

98.4% of socialists in upstate New York are pedophiles.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 16, 2016

Rule I in academics, CITE OR IT'S WRONG. If you went to high school, you would know that.

Like you did in your post up above with these two lies?

Texas's Black and Hispanic populations are the majority in the state

Demographics of Texas

In the 2010 Census,70.4% of the population of Texas was White American. Hispanics (of any race) were 37.6% of the population of the state, while Non-Hispanic Whites. composed 45.3%

Sure, the Hispanic population is growing, but that's the population, not actual legal citizens.  Not sure why you would lump two separate races together.

Obama won Texas.........

United States presidential election in Texas, 2012:

Romney won Texas by nearly 16%

66.6% of your posts contain lies.   The rest contain either errors or perverted thinking.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 16, 2016

destinycreation, dr65, Romancandle,

Actually the posts are within the thread title.

Who is booking action on the US election, the BC Lottery, no?

That's a stretch but not too much of one. 

There was a time in Vegas you could bet on almost anything, the El Cortez offered a $1M payoff for a $1 bet on a piece of Skylab landing on the roof of the Hotel. People made the bets just to keep the ticket as a souvenir. 

But then the series Dallas had the Who Shot JR episode coming up and the casino bosses got real concerned about collusion among the writers and Hollywood people and restricted everything to sporting events, for a while anyway.

CoinToss, I forgot to check the box for reply to destiny. This is one hot topic, with more posts than

any going back about one month in the news category. I had a feeling it would be a popular news 

item. I don't think the posts derailed in a way to be off point or subject. You are right, the comments

do fall within and are relevant to the thread title. They fit.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

dr65,

Thanks for the reply. 

Gee, I wish I could find my Skylab bet from the El Cortez!

Wink

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 17, 2016

dr65,

Thanks for the reply. 

Gee, I wish I could find my Skylab bet from the El Cortez!

Wink

Big Smile

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 17, 2016

Like you did in your post up above with these two lies?

Texas's Black and Hispanic populations are the majority in the state

Demographics of Texas

In the 2010 Census,70.4% of the population of Texas was White American. Hispanics (of any race) were 37.6% of the population of the state, while Non-Hispanic Whites. composed 45.3%

Sure, the Hispanic population is growing, but that's the population, not actual legal citizens.  Not sure why you would lump two separate races together.

Obama won Texas.........

United States presidential election in Texas, 2012:

Romney won Texas by nearly 16%

66.6% of your posts contain lies.   The rest contain either errors or perverted thinking.

That's the whole point of the ....... 

The giy was talking about national numbers and I was pointing out that it doesn't matter because Texas is majority-minority but it still went for Romney by a mile which wouldn't make sense according to the national numbers. 45% of Texas is white, and yet you call me a liar for pointing out that Texas is majority-minority? You also need to understand when sarcasm is being used.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 17, 2016

Why should I? You seldom do.  You go look it up...that is, unless you don't know how, then I'd be willing to teach you how to research a topic.  Someone sure needs to educate you, you sure got ripped off at college.

Now you're making up rules, just like your "facts". 

98.4% of socialists in upstate New York are pedophiles.

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2013/jan/11/chain-email/chain-email-says-11-states-have-more-people-welfar/

Whatever you say Mr Pants on fire.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Maybe you need to use your sarcasm font? -snicker-

It's easy to see when you're out-and-out lying, but I'm not sure when your extreme hyperbole is meant to amuse or is done in anger.  Either way, it's deceitful.

Guess you noticed that the original source was from Forbes, right?  I'd trust their analysis over some biased debunker site.

Also, want me to teach you how to create a hyperlink?  I think Todd has a tutorial in here.

destinycreation

Someone who knows something about Executive Orders, answer this please ...

 

 What is an Executive Order ????

 

1)  Can the President bypass both Congress and the Senate by using an Executive Order ??? 

2)  Under what circumstances can a President use an Executive Order ??? 

3)  What types of legislation can he enact by Executive Order ???

4) What types of legislation can he NOT enact by Executive Order ???

5) Why is everyone so upset with Obama for using Executive Orders so much ???

6) What else do we need to know about Executive Orders ???

7) If TRUMP can't get any of his policy ideas through the Congress & Senate, or some other branch of government won't cooperate [Like a Military Mutiny - no disrespect intended], can TRUMP go Rogue and start using Executive Orders ??? 

 

Enlighten me please ......

....... Other Inquiring Minds want to know what the LAW is also.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 17, 2016

"If I remembe right"

That's your problem, you rely on your faulty memory that can't remember Bruce Lee died 14 years before Rhonda was born. I'm not knocking Chuck Norris, but only a fool would think at age 76 he could beat any well trained 29 year-old female athlete.

"he also said she'd never lose."

Sad that some people suffer from dementia and then want to argue whatever goofy thing they "think" someone said. My only response in the "Chuck Norris or Bruce Lee?" thread was Ronda Rousey could beat either of them. But to answer your second question, the game has changed so much since the days of Norris and Lee, the best pound for pound is debatable.

Asking who was tougher between Norris or Lee is like redundantly talking about spending imaginary jackpot winnings. Is your all time favorite Little Rascals episode is "Who is stronger, Tarzan or Flash Gordon?"

Let's see who has dementia, Stack.

First you tell us Ronda Rousey could beat either one of them, then today you yourself point out Bruce Lee died 14 years before she was born. And now, suddenly, you originally meant 'in their prime." As for your only response in the Norris - Bruce Lee thread yeah, you said she could beat them both, but in another thread you said she's never be defeated. 

Soon after she lost. 

As for your penchant for quoting other people, highlighting in blue (now you'll switch colors maybe)m and pathological nit-picking, the more you post your erroneous 'facts' and opinions the more of an imbecile you're proving yourself to be.

Get a life and stop bothering the sane people.

bigbear29

Item 5, because he had to, republicans are the party of NO.

Obama = 244 executive orders

Bush = 291

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I don't trust the polls, the wife conducted a poll at work and in her department alone the vote was 25 to 2

in favor of Trump.  I watched a interview where Trump was asked asked why people disliked him. He replied

55,000 negative adds.   That was over a month ago and I would estimate that number has doubled.  This

election is rigged against him.  Hillary cannot be trusted to speak the truth.  The negative adds are big media

trying to control the election, just look at who the wife's of big media work for.   

It's easy to pick out the Republicans that are corrupt as well, the ones using scare tactics saying Trump will

destroy America.   Obama was a first term senator who never had a lick of experience in anything, except maybe

lying which he has become a grand master.  According  to Bill, Hillary congers up the dead and often speaks to

Eleanor Roosevelt, this means that Hillary could rightly be called a witch.  Hilda says Billbo will be the brain child

behind her economic policies and we all know how well they worked the first time around.   I would like to ask

Hilda what Bill was doing on those 26 plane trips to Epstein's sex island?   I am sure his response would be

"Can you define what, what is"  The anti-Trump add I really like is that only stupid under educated backwoods

idiots are voting Trump.  Oh well, I guess if something gets repeated often enough the  simple minded will believe

it without checking the facts.  Canada has now entered what I see as the biggest scam ever attempted on the

American public.  The simple minded keeps getting simpler.   Maybe I need to get in on the action,  If I study the

stats I see ten's of thousands attending Trump rallies where Hilda is packing in a few hundred.  The 25 to 2 also

looks very promising.   Just like the lottery it's possible to rig the election, I seen on the news where a few places

don't require a ID or voters registration card, what's up with that?  I guess the US elections are open to anyone

regardless of citizenship, again just like the lottery.   

RL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 17, 2016

Item 5, because he had to, republicans are the party of NO.

Obama = 244 executive orders

Bush = 291

Hey bigboar... Executive orders aren't law.  Some of obama's executive orders violated Congressional law and were struck down by SCOTUS.  Sometimes a party of "no" is a good thing in our system of government.  Or didn't they teach you that in school?

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 17, 2016

I don't trust the polls, the wife conducted a poll at work and in her department alone the vote was 25 to 2

in favor of Trump.  I watched a interview where Trump was asked asked why people disliked him. He replied

55,000 negative adds.   That was over a month ago and I would estimate that number has doubled.  This

election is rigged against him.  Hillary cannot be trusted to speak the truth.  The negative adds are big media

trying to control the election, just look at who the wife's of big media work for.   

It's easy to pick out the Republicans that are corrupt as well, the ones using scare tactics saying Trump will

destroy America.   Obama was a first term senator who never had a lick of experience in anything, except maybe

lying which he has become a grand master.  According  to Bill, Hillary congers up the dead and often speaks to

Eleanor Roosevelt, this means that Hillary could rightly be called a witch.  Hilda says Billbo will be the brain child

behind her economic policies and we all know how well they worked the first time around.   I would like to ask

Hilda what Bill was doing on those 26 plane trips to Epstein's sex island?   I am sure his response would be

"Can you define what, what is"  The anti-Trump add I really like is that only stupid under educated backwoods

idiots are voting Trump.  Oh well, I guess if something gets repeated often enough the  simple minded will believe

it without checking the facts.  Canada has now entered what I see as the biggest scam ever attempted on the

American public.  The simple minded keeps getting simpler.   Maybe I need to get in on the action,  If I study the

stats I see ten's of thousands attending Trump rallies where Hilda is packing in a few hundred.  The 25 to 2 also

looks very promising.   Just like the lottery it's possible to rig the election, I seen on the news where a few places

don't require a ID or voters registration card, what's up with that?  I guess the US elections are open to anyone

regardless of citizenship, again just like the lottery.   

RL

Thanks for your post RL. I enjoyed reading it.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Jul 26, 2016

The US has hundreds of mass shootings each year?  Please go ahead and choose one year and run down the "hundreds" of mass shootings that occurred.

And to say that Australia has no mass shootings is wrong, sorry to burst your bubble.

Besides, if there're no guns available, murderers and terrorists just find another way to kill people.  The 84 killed in France by the truck driver terrorist is just one example. 

The only thing a gun ban does is take guns out of the common law-abiding citizens' hands.  Makes people easy pickings for murderers and terrorists.

I Agree!I Agree!I Agree!I Agree!I Agree!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 26, 2016

They still have violent crimes despite the gun buy back program, murder is murder, you don't need a gun.

Move there, If you don't like it here then leave.

Since your Mister History, tell all the good folks why Japan never invaded us after they bombed Pearl Harbor.

The Emperor wanted a ground invasion until he was told everyone  here has a gun.

You are so willing to give up your rights...You are willing to become a subject instead of a citizen.

You want other peoples rights to be taken away, you can't see they are also yours.

You are not a survivor.

sully16  I Agree!

I wonder how people would take it if Trump started talking about how the 1st amendment's freedom of speech needed some

upgrades.  So many are willing to give up our 2nd amendment rights that I am sure they would just roll over over if suddenly

freedom of speech became center topic.  IMHO anyone who does not like our Constitution and the bill of rights should move to

some place that does not have them.   We have all heard the old saying "The pen is mightier then the sword." but without a

sword the pen is worthless.   

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

In a parallel universe

Maybe the British would have just said OK to the declaration of independence

Maybe Abe would of said "OK I tried." to slavery.

Maybe a simple letter to Hitler would have avoided WWII.

Maybe communism, where only the rulers have guns would be nice

Maybe making crime legal would eliminate the need for guns

Maybe letting the village take our kids away so they could be programmed like cheap computers is not a bad idea

RL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 17, 2016

Let's see who has dementia, Stack.

First you tell us Ronda Rousey could beat either one of them, then today you yourself point out Bruce Lee died 14 years before she was born. And now, suddenly, you originally meant 'in their prime." As for your only response in the Norris - Bruce Lee thread yeah, you said she could beat them both, but in another thread you said she's never be defeated. 

Soon after she lost. 

As for your penchant for quoting other people, highlighting in blue (now you'll switch colors maybe)m and pathological nit-picking, the more you post your erroneous 'facts' and opinions the more of an imbecile you're proving yourself to be.

Get a life and stop bothering the sane people.

"First you tell us Ronda Rousey could beat either one of them"

You're embarrassing yourself again!

On the first post in the "Chuck Norris or Bruce Lee" thread, Jeet asked "Who is more relevant in the "game" these days?" and on November 27, 2014 Rhonda Rousey was obviously much more relevant in the MMA game. Is the term "THESE DAYS" (in the present) causing all your confusion?

"then today you yourself point out Bruce Lee died 14 years before she was born. And now, suddenly, you originally meant 'in their prime."

It's getting worse, dementia and a severe a lack of reading comprehension. In the context of relevancy, THESE DAYS, it should be obvious and in context of an actual fight THESE DAYS, you rely on your faulty memory that can't remember Bruce Lee died 14 years before Rhonda was born. In other words the question was about MMA relevancy of Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee THESE DAYS.  Are you disputing on THAT DAY Rhonda was much more relevant than either of them in MMA?

"but in another thread you said she's never be defeated."

In what other topic? I'm trying to be nice but I won't let you get away with lying about what I posted; give a link.

And what does "she's never be defeated" mean? Do you mean "she'll never be defeated" or "she's never been defeated"? Maybe you can you find where I said She's undefeated THESE DAYS?

"As for your penchant for quoting other people,"

It's called being honest and showing what's being addressed. You complained when I didn't quote Jeet and now you're complaining when I do.

"the more you post your erroneous 'facts' and opinions the more of an imbecile you're proving yourself to be."

Aw, so that's why you won't let anyone remark about all the lies you tell in your blog. And speaking of lying (or is it dementia?), didn't you say I was on your block list? If you're blocking me, how can you know what I'm posting or did you mean blocking me in THOSE DAYS, THESE DAYS, or SOMEDAY?

"Get a life and stop bothering the sane people. "

Are you quoting what your doctor said to you when he was treating your dementia?

And don't tell me when and where I can post; this isn't your blog.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 17, 2016

In a parallel universe

Maybe the British would have just said OK to the declaration of independence

Maybe Abe would of said "OK I tried." to slavery.

Maybe a simple letter to Hitler would have avoided WWII.

Maybe communism, where only the rulers have guns would be nice

Maybe making crime legal would eliminate the need for guns

Maybe letting the village take our kids away so they could be programmed like cheap computers is not a bad idea

RL

Good posts, RL, People here have no idea how good they got it.

Supermarket on every corner.

The right to speak your mind.

The right to Religious Freedom.

The right to defend you home and person.

Electricity, running water, heat from gas lines, canned food.

Credit....where would we be with out that.

Books, that everyone can read.

We can water our lawns, there are countries that don't see the amount of water we waste, or the food that we waste.

We are not perfect, but life is pretty darn good with those things.

It irks me to no end when someone from another country complains about, our Flag, it's our country dammit.

We should have the right to fly our Flag anywhere we want, they complain about the Pledge of Allegiance in our schools.

Now in Detroit, they do not show the National Anthem on TV before the Hockey game. BS

Tired of just anyone running across our border and sucking our welfare dry, committing crimes

Been labeled a racist cause I don't want illegal immigration. I don't care where you're from, come here the right way , contribute and respect our way of life.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 16, 2016

Screw the medical records, lets see those Emails.Evil Smile

She sold us out, she sold all of us out! Mad

        I Agree!   and let's not forget about our 400 million Dollars....and the money that Clinton got for Clinton Foundation..

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

"Tired of just anyone running across our border and sucking our welfare dry, committing crimes"

All while waving the flag of a country that they had to leave to escape poverty.

 

"Been labeled a racist cause I don't want illegal immigration. I don't care where you're from, come here the right way , contribute and respect our way of life."

Political correctness = Devils pitchfork.  Try to outlaw what a person can say to the point that you

cannot address real problems.   From Sovereignty to Insolvency heading to Slavery.  When Obama

said change, who would have thought.

RL     

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 17, 2016

"First you tell us Ronda Rousey could beat either one of them"

You're embarrassing yourself again!

On the first post in the "Chuck Norris or Bruce Lee" thread, Jeet asked "Who is more relevant in the "game" these days?" and on November 27, 2014 Rhonda Rousey was obviously much more relevant in the MMA game. Is the term "THESE DAYS" (in the present) causing all your confusion?

"then today you yourself point out Bruce Lee died 14 years before she was born. And now, suddenly, you originally meant 'in their prime."

It's getting worse, dementia and a severe a lack of reading comprehension. In the context of relevancy, THESE DAYS, it should be obvious and in context of an actual fight THESE DAYS, you rely on your faulty memory that can't remember Bruce Lee died 14 years before Rhonda was born. In other words the question was about MMA relevancy of Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee THESE DAYS.  Are you disputing on THAT DAY Rhonda was much more relevant than either of them in MMA?

"but in another thread you said she's never be defeated."

In what other topic? I'm trying to be nice but I won't let you get away with lying about what I posted; give a link.

And what does "she's never be defeated" mean? Do you mean "she'll never be defeated" or "she's never been defeated"? Maybe you can you find where I said She's undefeated THESE DAYS?

"As for your penchant for quoting other people,"

It's called being honest and showing what's being addressed. You complained when I didn't quote Jeet and now you're complaining when I do.

"the more you post your erroneous 'facts' and opinions the more of an imbecile you're proving yourself to be."

Aw, so that's why you won't let anyone remark about all the lies you tell in your blog. And speaking of lying (or is it dementia?), didn't you say I was on your block list? If you're blocking me, how can you know what I'm posting or did you mean blocking me in THOSE DAYS, THESE DAYS, or SOMEDAY?

"Get a life and stop bothering the sane people. "

Are you quoting what your doctor said to you when he was treating your dementia?

And don't tell me when and where I can post; this isn't your blog.

  • You have some serious anger issues. Tell me again of your great legal wisdom and how you never heard of an attorney having multiple bar licenses. Omg lol You are dumber than b2b and that is a high standard to meet. 

Your ocd highlighting does show some mental issues and it seems to be obvious to many . My guess is that you are reliving a fight with an ex. It is called transferance...look it up.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

I have a question. If Hillary has a stroke before the election....and let's be honest, she is aging fast, then Kaine becomes the nominee?  Kaine's staff were belligerent, foul-mouthed nightmares when he was running in Virginia. They repeatedly buzzed my door late one night and demanded access to a gated area to get to some other townhouses. I refused and they went ballistic. A couple of little nazis. I called the local Kaine HQ the next day and was rudely told they can do whatever they want.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 17, 2016

I have a question. If Hillary has a stroke before the election....and let's be honest, she is aging fast, then Kaine becomes the nominee?  Kaine's staff were belligerent, foul-mouthed nightmares when he was running in Virginia. They repeatedly buzzed my door late one night and demanded access to a gated area to get to some other townhouses. I refused and they went ballistic. A couple of little nazis. I called the local Kaine HQ the next day and was rudely told they can do whatever they want.

Both parties have a rule that if the nominee is unable to run anymore, a committee picks the new nominee via a complicated system of voting, there's no guarantee he'll be the new nominee.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 17, 2016

Both parties have a rule that if the nominee is unable to run anymore, a committee picks the new nominee via a complicated system of voting, there's no guarantee he'll be the new nominee.

Does this have to be done quickly so the election is not delayed?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 17, 2016

Does this have to be done quickly so the election is not delayed?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Aug 17, 2016

Someone who knows something about Executive Orders, answer this please ...

 

 What is an Executive Order ????

 

1)  Can the President bypass both Congress and the Senate by using an Executive Order ??? 

2)  Under what circumstances can a President use an Executive Order ??? 

3)  What types of legislation can he enact by Executive Order ???

4) What types of legislation can he NOT enact by Executive Order ???

5) Why is everyone so upset with Obama for using Executive Orders so much ???

6) What else do we need to know about Executive Orders ???

7) If TRUMP can't get any of his policy ideas through the Congress & Senate, or some other branch of government won't cooperate [Like a Military Mutiny - no disrespect intended], can TRUMP go Rogue and start using Executive Orders ??? 

 

Enlighten me please ......

....... Other Inquiring Minds want to know what the LAW is also.

Read today where our Governor issued an executive order firing one of his cabinet members. The definition of executive order pretty much answers most of your questions. The short answer is Presidential executive orders are used to manage Federal Government operations. Many EOs are for the Defence Department and armed forces. Here is a disposition table that might help you better understand the purpose. They can be amended, revoked, or supersede too.

Number 5: Obama has less EOs than any two term President back to the 19th century. I guess the people who are upset are Constitutionally ignorant.

As for question 7,  the President can't force Congress to pass a bill, but they have the power to veto a bill. A more likely scenario would be Clinton with a Republican House and possibly a Republican Senate.

The Law is Article II of the Constitution.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 17, 2016

I don't trust the polls, the wife conducted a poll at work and in her department alone the vote was 25 to 2

in favor of Trump.  I watched a interview where Trump was asked asked why people disliked him. He replied

55,000 negative adds.   That was over a month ago and I would estimate that number has doubled.  This

election is rigged against him.  Hillary cannot be trusted to speak the truth.  The negative adds are big media

trying to control the election, just look at who the wife's of big media work for.   

It's easy to pick out the Republicans that are corrupt as well, the ones using scare tactics saying Trump will

destroy America.   Obama was a first term senator who never had a lick of experience in anything, except maybe

lying which he has become a grand master.  According  to Bill, Hillary congers up the dead and often speaks to

Eleanor Roosevelt, this means that Hillary could rightly be called a witch.  Hilda says Billbo will be the brain child

behind her economic policies and we all know how well they worked the first time around.   I would like to ask

Hilda what Bill was doing on those 26 plane trips to Epstein's sex island?   I am sure his response would be

"Can you define what, what is"  The anti-Trump add I really like is that only stupid under educated backwoods

idiots are voting Trump.  Oh well, I guess if something gets repeated often enough the  simple minded will believe

it without checking the facts.  Canada has now entered what I see as the biggest scam ever attempted on the

American public.  The simple minded keeps getting simpler.   Maybe I need to get in on the action,  If I study the

stats I see ten's of thousands attending Trump rallies where Hilda is packing in a few hundred.  The 25 to 2 also

looks very promising.   Just like the lottery it's possible to rig the election, I seen on the news where a few places

don't require a ID or voters registration card, what's up with that?  I guess the US elections are open to anyone

regardless of citizenship, again just like the lottery.   

RL

"I don't trust the polls, the wife conducted a poll at work and in her department alone the vote was 25 to 2 in favor of Trump."

Strange statement considering your lottery systems use past performances and basically the good Presidential polling is conducted to see if there are changes in past data. If the same demographic in 2000 and 2004 predicted Bush should win in Texas, McCain in 2008, and Romney in 2012 and if the results verify the prediction (plus or minus the margin of error), there is no reason to believe the same demographic won't predict the 2016 election. Currently the polls show that while Trump is polling less than Romney in 2012 (50% to 57%), his 10 point lead means Trump will likely win in Texas.

I would agree with you if you're specifically talking about National polls because the only thing that counts is the electoral map. It's easy enough to predict KY's 8, Kansas' 6, and Missouri's 10 will go to Trump, but they will be neutralized by New Jersey's 14 and Maryland's 10 going to Clinton.

"Just like the lottery it's possible to rig the election"

ROFL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 17, 2016

Hey bigboar... Executive orders aren't law.  Some of obama's executive orders violated Congressional law and were struck down by SCOTUS.  Sometimes a party of "no" is a good thing in our system of government.  Or didn't they teach you that in school?

"Hey bigboar... Executive orders aren't law."

Executive Orders do not require Congressional approval to take effect but they have the same legal weight as laws passed by Congress. The President's source of authority to issue Executive Orders can be found in the Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution which grants to the President the "executive Power." Section 3 of Article II further directs the President to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." To implement or execute the laws of the land, Presidents give direction and guidance to Executive Branch agencies and departments, often in the form of Executive Orders.

Don't take my word for it; read what it says in Section 3, Article II of the Constitution.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 17, 2016

  • You have some serious anger issues. Tell me again of your great legal wisdom and how you never heard of an attorney having multiple bar licenses. Omg lol You are dumber than b2b and that is a high standard to meet. 

Your ocd highlighting does show some mental issues and it seems to be obvious to many . My guess is that you are reliving a fight with an ex. It is called transferance...look it up.

You missed my question about the Trumps remarks about Megyn Kelly. Do you agree with what Trump said?

You won't answer my question so it's obvious your only intent posting to me is use your repertoire of very childish insults.

"Your ocd highlighting does show some mental issues and it seems to be obvious to many .My guess is that you are reliving a fight with an ex."

That's my point, you're making up stuff so you can personally attack me instead of responding to what I post.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 16, 2016

And would you please get a real avatar, blank face guy is annoying.

When you not busy answering you PM'S.

"When you not busy answering you PM'S."

Weird, speaking of PMs, I got a PM today warning me that Artist's childish insults are intended to get me banned. Apparently she did the same thing to an Arizona poster three years ago. You're a savvy lottery player, truthfully has Artist taught you anything that might help you win a prize or added anything that you didn't already know?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 17, 2016

"When you not busy answering you PM'S."

Weird, speaking of PMs, I got a PM today warning me that Artist's childish insults are intended to get me banned. Apparently she did the same thing to an Arizona poster three years ago. You're a savvy lottery player, truthfully has Artist taught you anything that might help you win a prize or added anything that you didn't already know?

A friend of nutty Ronnies?  That explains a lot. Sounds like Ronnie must still be a member under another name.

  1.  Ronnie did nothing but challenge Todd to ban him and disrupt the forums. He was warned by Todd. If you think I control Todd, that is pretty funny. Todd did the women in particular a favor here due to nutty Ronnie's misogynistic statements.
  2. My loyally participating in the biweekly pb and mm challenges demonstrate my commitment. It also shows how I have worked hard to move up the rankings. Loyalty and hard work will get you far in life. Try it sometime.
  3. A don't think a week goes by without someone pm'ing me asking how I pick my numbers. Not everyone feels the need to brag about things like this. I guess I am not insecure like you.
  4. You seem to fear being banned. Funny, I never had that concern. You control your own actions.
  5. I have never seen you favorited by anyone nor did anyone ever say how you helped them win a prize.
  6. You did not get any pm from anyone. This is your paranoia working overtime.
  7. Get a job. You will feel better about yourself.
  8. Buh Bye. 
LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 17, 2016

"Hey bigboar... Executive orders aren't law."

Executive Orders do not require Congressional approval to take effect but they have the same legal weight as laws passed by Congress. The President's source of authority to issue Executive Orders can be found in the Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution which grants to the President the "executive Power." Section 3 of Article II further directs the President to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." To implement or execute the laws of the land, Presidents give direction and guidance to Executive Branch agencies and departments, often in the form of Executive Orders.

Don't take my word for it; read what it says in Section 3, Article II of the Constitution.

Executive orders aren't law, they are policy which can be overturned by any future President.  I  said they can't violate existing law passed by Congress.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 17, 2016

"When you not busy answering you PM'S."

Weird, speaking of PMs, I got a PM today warning me that Artist's childish insults are intended to get me banned. Apparently she did the same thing to an Arizona poster three years ago. You're a savvy lottery player, truthfully has Artist taught you anything that might help you win a prize or added anything that you didn't already know?

I can guess who that is.

New topic about the polls, The High School where I went is a polling station, they posted on youtube people feeding ballots into the machine as fast as they could go, we had extremely lopsided voting, only voted for President Sotero ( aka Obama)

and not anything else on the ballot. The republicans were literally chased out and threatened, not a freaking peep from the media.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 18, 2016

I can guess who that is.

New topic about the polls, The High School where I went is a polling station, they posted on youtube people feeding ballots into the machine as fast as they could go, we had extremely lopsided voting, only voted for President Sotero ( aka Obama)

and not anything else on the ballot. The republicans were literally chased out and threatened, not a freaking peep from the media.

Was your school a polling station or were they set up as a voting precinct? I had read that many towns in PA had Obama receiving 100% of the votes with Romney not even getting a single vote. If that doesn't sound like corruption, you can thank the honest media for keeping it hush hush and protecting their Messiah.

I wonder if the new black panthers will attempt to intimidate voters this fall?

bigbear29

No matter how we look at it, trump is going to lose!  He does not have the black votes, he does not have the hispanic votes, he is losing more women votes and he is losing the white college educated votes.  Trump can not get enough votes to win.  And with his new team except for the lady, he is guaranteed to lose.

 

Do the math.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 18, 2016

Was your school a polling station or were they set up as a voting precinct? I had read that many towns in PA had Obama receiving 100% of the votes with Romney not even getting a single vote. If that doesn't sound like corruption, you can thank the honest media for keeping it hush hush and protecting their Messiah.

I wonder if the new black panthers will attempt to intimidate voters this fall?

It was where I went to HS in Detroit, not where I vote now.

Not sure what it was set up as, just seen the you tube video.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

You can't get anymore DC insider than Hillary Clinton.  She recently said free market forces don't work.  HUH?  Then how did America become a superpower in every sense of the word in such a short amount of time relative to the rest of the world?

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 18, 2016

You can't get anymore DC insider than Hillary Clinton.  She recently said free market forces don't work.  HUH?  Then how did America become a superpower in every sense of the word in such a short amount of time relative to the rest of the world?

Hillary is the epitome of a DC insider. Liberals will never understand the free market.

Terminal brain disorder can't be fixed.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Aug 18, 2016

Hillary is the epitome of a DC insider. Liberals will never understand the free market.

Terminal brain disorder can't be fixed.

They understand free, they just want the market to pay for it.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 18, 2016

You can't get anymore DC insider than Hillary Clinton.  She recently said free market forces don't work.  HUH?  Then how did America become a superpower in every sense of the word in such a short amount of time relative to the rest of the world?

It became a superpower because of 90% tax rates  and a strong socialist government. Then Regean showed up and the US became a second world country.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 18, 2016

It became a superpower because of 90% tax rates  and a strong socialist government. Then Regean showed up and the US became a second world country.

LOL!  The first income tax was imposed during the civil war in order to pay for the war effort and that was only 3%.  The 16th amendment made the income tax permanent in 1913.  Don't look now King but it wasn't income taxes or a strong socialist government that made this country a superpower.  Face it... The free market economy.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Guess I was wrong on a previous post.  Already 47 pages and its only mid August.  By election day we will probably hit 150 pages.  Weeeee!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 18, 2016

It became a superpower because of 90% tax rates  and a strong socialist government. Then Regean showed up and the US became a second world country.

Feel free to roam Cuba. Bye Bye Sad Wavey

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 18, 2016

Executive orders aren't law, they are policy which can be overturned by any future President.  I  said they can't violate existing law passed by Congress.

You must have missed where I said executive orders can be amended, revoked, or struck down by the Supreme Court. The Emancipation Proclamation was an executive order and became the law of the land and certainly not just a policy.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 18, 2016

I can guess who that is.

New topic about the polls, The High School where I went is a polling station, they posted on youtube people feeding ballots into the machine as fast as they could go, we had extremely lopsided voting, only voted for President Sotero ( aka Obama)

and not anything else on the ballot. The republicans were literally chased out and threatened, not a freaking peep from the media.

I take it your silence means you must believe Artist adds nothing lottery related to the forums. Of course if I'm wrong, you can easily show us what the have added.

"New topic about the polls"

How about giving a link to the youtube video and maybe I can get it into the news.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Some people just need to put their ego in park. 

People whose posts are constantly filled with I, me, and my soon get ignored.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 18, 2016

Was your school a polling station or were they set up as a voting precinct? I had read that many towns in PA had Obama receiving 100% of the votes with Romney not even getting a single vote. If that doesn't sound like corruption, you can thank the honest media for keeping it hush hush and protecting their Messiah.

I wonder if the new black panthers will attempt to intimidate voters this fall?

"I had read that many towns in PA had Obama receiving 100% of the votes with Romney not even getting a single vote."

It's a fact at least 22 precincts in Cuyahoga County, Ohio (Cleveland) voted 100% for Obama in 2012. It's also a fact that over 200 precincts in Utah voted 100% for Romney in 2012.

"If that doesn't sound like corruption, you can thank the honest media for keeping it hush hush"

Yep, I suppose over 200 Utah precincts voting 100% for Romney would raise Fox News viewer's eyebrows,but  nothing unusual for the real reporters that do their homework. There were no registered Democrats in most of the Utah precincts and no registered Republicans in any of the 22 Cleveland area precincts.
Have no idea of how precincts in the entire country voted 100% one way or the other, but it's probably in the thousands.

I wonder if David Dukes and his followers will show up wearing their hoods and sheets? After all Duke did endorse Trump. LOL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 19, 2016

Some people just need to put their ego in park. 

People whose posts are constantly filled with I, me, and my soon get ignored.

How many more times are going to lie and say you blocked or ignored me?

Maybe it's because you put all those lies on your blog and your faulty memory problems?

"in another thread you said she's never be defeated.  "

And when are going to show that imaginary post?

Seriously to really believe the nonsense you (and others) put on their Blogs will change the election outcome?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

It's certainly better than believing the nonsense that comes from Obama, Hillary, etc....

Typical liberal, you believe in free speech until someone says something you don't like. 

And now, sayo-f&$%**)nara

See Ya!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 19, 2016

I take it your silence means you must believe Artist adds nothing lottery related to the forums. Of course if I'm wrong, you can easily show us what the have added.

"New topic about the polls"

How about giving a link to the youtube video and maybe I can get it into the news.

I don't know how to post links.

As far as Artist goes, she is a great friend and I enjoy my private conversations with her.

Your remarks are nothing more then an insult to her.

I don't have the computer savvy I would like to have or I would be posting all kinds of stuff in my blogs.

bigbear29

Trump, release your taxes so we can see that you care about other people, like veterans and not just yourself.

 

Trump do you still need to see President Obama's birth certificate?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 19, 2016

Trump, release your taxes so we can see that you care about other people, like veterans and not just yourself.

 

Trump do you still need to see President Obama's birth certificate?

Years ago obama applied for admission into Occidental College as a foreign student from Indonesia under the name of Barry Soetoro.  Explain that one.

https://www.mrconservative.com/2015/11/67090-breaking-obamas-college-records-are-finally-released-what-they-say-could-get-him-impeached/

bigbear29

That is a fake article, a sham like trump!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

No its not.

bigbear29

So, why was this not in the news?  Another fake story for non-educated people.  Hey trump, are you still waiting for PRESIDENT OBAMA's birth certificate.  This is just one reason why black people will not vote for trump.

Mr.conservative.com prints satire stories and passes them on as news.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 19, 2016

So, why was this not in the news?  Another fake story for non-educated people.  Hey trump, are you still waiting for PRESIDENT OBAMA's birth certificate.  This is just one reason why black people will not vote for trump.

Mr.conservative.com prints satire stories and passes them on as news.

You're the uneducated one here buddy.  Who else would support a lying criminal for President.  If we had a real news media in this country obama would never have been elected President.

bigbear29

What I'm the uneducated one for not going to mr.conservative.com for my news.  Only the dumbasses get their news from mr.conservative.com.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Jul 28, 2016

IRS stated that trump can release his taxes before the IRS is done.  That was from the IRS.

"That was from the IRS."

 

Who? Lois Lerner?

bigbear29

IRS commissioner John Koskinen stated that trump can release his tax retuns while in audit.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 19, 2016

What I'm the uneducated one for not going to mr.conservative.com for my news.  Only the dumbasses get their news from mr.conservative.com.

Did you read the article?  Can you even read?  They got that through a FOIA request.  Hello.... Anyone home???

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 19, 2016

IRS commissioner John Koskinen stated that trump can release his tax retuns while in audit.

Repeat after me.... "I am a broken record".

bigbear29

You are a dumbass!  You just stick with mr.conservative.com and you will be just as stupid tomorrow.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 19, 2016

You are a dumbass!  You just stick with mr.conservative.com and you will be just as stupid tomorrow.

Wow, kindergarten insults from an (((engineer))).  LOL!  Time to get a job and contribute to society pee wee.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 19, 2016

Trump, release your taxes so we can see that you care about other people, like veterans and not just yourself.

 

Trump do you still need to see President Obama's birth certificate?

It would be nice to see a birth certificate with the name of the hospital in Hawaii what it was when Obama was born, not the present day name. 

Would also be nice if his college records weren't sealed.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 19, 2016

Years ago obama applied for admission into Occidental College as a foreign student from Indonesia under the name of Barry Soetoro.  Explain that one.

https://www.mrconservative.com/2015/11/67090-breaking-obamas-college-records-are-finally-released-what-they-say-could-get-him-impeached/

LiveinGreenBay,

This story went around Chicago for a while (and naturally has been buried by the media).

A mailman in Chicago had a guy on his route that he would talk with every day.....one day the guy told the mailman he had a new boarder, an exchange student from Kenya......and introduced him to Obama, who wass going by Barry Soetero at that time.

Romancandle's avatarRomancandle

C'mon fellas... You're just kidding right?

Or do you really believe these conspiracy theories?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 19, 2016

I don't know how to post links.

As far as Artist goes, she is a great friend and I enjoy my private conversations with her.

Your remarks are nothing more then an insult to her.

I don't have the computer savvy I would like to have or I would be posting all kinds of stuff in my blogs.

Awwww thank you Sully. I feel the same.See Ya!

 

I see Stack is still blowing his stack...lol. What a frustrated wanna be attorney. Lol You ignored my question, so therefore you admitted it!

I heard he attempted to pass himself off an attorney and told a judge that his opponent's argument was "mute." The judge replied "I wish I could put you on Mute, Mr. Stack...but your law degree does seem moot."

Did you ever notice in any group setting, the one who tells everyone else how he is the most valuable over all the others, is viewed by others as being the least valuable? Perhaps a Napeleon complex?

We are observing a Ronnie like total meltdown in action.

Doesn't Todd give us the level promotions? What does mine say????? 5 of 8 bars...lol. Senior.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

RC,

Have you ever heard anyone say they were in college classes with obama?

Do you really believe not one single person in Philadelphia voted for Romney, and not that the machines were tampered with so no matter how someone voted in went to the Democrats?

bigbear29

Obama did release his original birth certificate!  Trump stated that he sent agent over to Hawaii to get the truth.  Trump lied about the agents going to Hawaii.

bigbear29

I believe it was 59 precincts in the inner citys that he got 0 votes.  Mmmmmmmmmm, do you see this trump?  You can not talk bad about groups of people and expect them to vote for you.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 19, 2016

RC,

Have you ever heard anyone say they were in college classes with obama?

Do you really believe not one single person in Philadelphia voted for Romney, and not that the machines were tampered with so no matter how someone voted in went to the Democrats?

And no one  remembers him from Harvard law? In Most classes, your attendance and participation is a substantial portion of your grade.

Romancandle's avatarRomancandle

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 19, 2016

RC,

Have you ever heard anyone say they were in college classes with obama?

Do you really believe not one single person in Philadelphia voted for Romney, and not that the machines were tampered with so no matter how someone voted in went to the Democrats?

No, I've never looked into either CT.

The whole notion of him attending school and nobody seeing him seems preposterous.

as for the voting in Philly... I know nothing of that.

destinycreation

Can "President" Trump use an Executive Order to enact a ban on Muslims immigrating into the U.S. ???

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 19, 2016

And no one  remembers him from Harvard law? In Most classes, your attendance and participation is a substantial portion of your grade.

Obama will best be known for perpetrating the ultimate con job on America. This Muslim African hoodwinked the most powerful country on earth.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 19, 2016

Obama will best be known for perpetrating the ultimate con job on America. This Muslim African hoodwinked the most powerful country on earth.

Agreed. He was brought in for a purpose.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 19, 2016

RC,

Have you ever heard anyone say they were in college classes with obama?

Do you really believe not one single person in Philadelphia voted for Romney, and not that the machines were tampered with so no matter how someone voted in went to the Democrats?

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/statesub.php?year=2012&fips=42101&f=1&off=0&elect=0

http://www.politico.com/story/2008/05/old-friends-recall-obamas-college-years-010402

Bull-lies are Bull-lies.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 19, 2016

LiveinGreenBay,

This story went around Chicago for a while (and naturally has been buried by the media).

A mailman in Chicago had a guy on his route that he would talk with every day.....one day the guy told the mailman he had a new boarder, an exchange student from Kenya......and introduced him to Obama, who wass going by Barry Soetero at that time.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/dec/09/facebook-posts/facebook-posts-still-claim-obama-wasnt-born-us/

"There was a time when Obama used the last name "Soetoro." Obama used Soetoro, the last name of his stepfather, while he wasgrowing up in Indonesia. At age 10, Obama moved back to Hawaii, his birthplace, and stopped using that last name.

After two years at Occidental College in California, 20-year-old Barack Obama transferred to Columbia University in New York in 1981.

There are no records that suggest Obama ever went by his childhood alias while attending Columbia. In 1983, the university’s weekly magazine published an essay written by Obama. The byline reads "Barack Obama."

ID issues

Whoever took the time to make this image apparently didn’t take the extra time to change the number on the card. After the card made the initial rounds, Snopes revealed the card number belonged to another student, who appears to be caught up in this simply because he posted his card to the web in 1998.

The picture of Obama on the fake ID is definitely not of the president as a young college student. It looks like the photo was taken in 1999, when Obama was in his late 30s and a state senator in Illinois."

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 19, 2016

It's certainly better than believing the nonsense that comes from Obama, Hillary, etc....

Typical liberal, you believe in free speech until someone says something you don't like. 

And now, sayo-f&$%**)nara

See Ya!

Yep, I won't stop you from saying all the stupid things you like and tell some lies too.

Oh and I'll bet you're really proud that your man Trump passed out Play-Doh to the LA flood victims.

Campaign manager Kellyanne Conway insisted that the visit was not a photo op, praising Trump for acting “presidential” and describing his stay there as “a decidedly nonpolitical event, no press allowed, going to help people on the ground who are in need.”

"Help the people on the ground" by giving the Play-Doh???

ROFL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 19, 2016

I don't know how to post links.

As far as Artist goes, she is a great friend and I enjoy my private conversations with her.

Your remarks are nothing more then an insult to her.

I don't have the computer savvy I would like to have or I would be posting all kinds of stuff in my blogs.

"I don't know how to post links."

Then why did you say it was on Youtube?

"Your remarks are nothing more then an insult to her."

I didn't ask for your opinion, but an example of anything lottery related Artist has added to the Forums. Maybe somebody will start a Premium member "go-fund" so Artist will have something lottery rated to add.

"As far as Artist goes, she is a great friend and I enjoy my private conversations with her."

You said Walt Whitman was a great friend of yours too, but you don't even know why he stopped posting.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 19, 2016

Wow, kindergarten insults from an (((engineer))).  LOL!  Time to get a job and contribute to society pee wee.

But not as juvenile as the finger painting lawyer's lame insults.

"Time to get a job and contribute to society pee wee."

Speaking of lame insults.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Romancandle on Aug 19, 2016

C'mon fellas... You're just kidding right?

Or do you really believe these conspiracy theories?

They believe any negative thing they read especially when Fox News tells them to. When there is nothing positive to say about Trump, attack what the opposition post and then personally attack them. It didn't work in 2008 and 2012; when will they ever learn?

GB actually called me a liar when I quoted Trump "calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States" so I added this: If you don't believe quotes, here is the actual video.

These silly conspiracy theories will continue even after the landslide election. I saw a thing on Facebook that looked like ABC News reporting Obama signing a executive order banning the Pledge of Allegiance. The haters want so badly for it to be true, they repost it as the truth.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Aug 19, 2016

Can "President" Trump use an Executive Order to enact a ban on Muslims immigrating into the U.S. ???

http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/06/18/donald-trump-muslim-immigration-ban/86038940/

Short Answer: Yes.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 20, 2016

http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/06/18/donald-trump-muslim-immigration-ban/86038940/

Short Answer: Yes.

Long answer doesn't serve your purpose? UNTIL THEY ARE PROPERLY VETTED! You, know, make sure they haven't been camping out at terrorist camps, involved in anti-america activity, belong to radical groups, etc....

A vetting process is not new tolegal immigration....it's just been ignored in the US, sadly.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

I love how nutty Stack now feels he runs lp vs. Todd and keeps making demands of members.  Bad case of the green eyed monster. PS. I don't paint. Broaden  your very limited horizons. Learn to be a more well rounded person. .Bash

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 20, 2016

"I don't know how to post links."

Then why did you say it was on Youtube?

"Your remarks are nothing more then an insult to her."

I didn't ask for your opinion, but an example of anything lottery related Artist has added to the Forums. Maybe somebody will start a Premium member "go-fund" so Artist will have something lottery rated to add.

"As far as Artist goes, she is a great friend and I enjoy my private conversations with her."

You said Walt Whitman was a great friend of yours too, but you don't even know why he stopped posting.

I can say what I want. Go search voter fraud on youtube, maybe you'll find it.

Artist does not need to throw lottery info at me for me to be her friend.

I know why Ridge stopped posting, I just don't feel like telling everyone his business.

Nobody bug me about, I won't say.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 20, 2016

I love how nutty Stack now feels he runs lp vs. Todd and keeps making demands of members.  Bad case of the green eyed monster. PS. I don't paint. Broaden  your very limited horizons. Learn to be a more well rounded person. .Bash

I got his number. He has serious trust issues, and that has nothing to do with us.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 20, 2016

But not as juvenile as the finger painting lawyer's lame insults.

"Time to get a job and contribute to society pee wee."

Speaking of lame insults.

Again I say its a case of the pot calling the kettle black.  You don't throw insults?   You're a typical lying democrat liberal.  No wonder you support the lying criminal Hillary.  Get a job Jethro.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 20, 2016

I can say what I want. Go search voter fraud on youtube, maybe you'll find it.

Artist does not need to throw lottery info at me for me to be her friend.

I know why Ridge stopped posting, I just don't feel like telling everyone his business.

Nobody bug me about, I won't say.

Sully even knows my real name and phone #.

 

Jenny @ 867-5309

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 20, 2016

Sully even knows my real name and phone #.

 

Jenny @ 867-5309

lol, we on for dinner?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 20, 2016

lol, we on for dinner?

Yes. We are joining Bao Bao and Bei Bei for dinner to celebrate their birthdays.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 20, 2016

Yes. We are joining Bao Bao and Bei Bei for dinner to celebrate their birthdays.

Sounds good. I'll make dessert, Lava Cake. yum

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Aug 20, 2016

Long answer doesn't serve your purpose? UNTIL THEY ARE PROPERLY VETTED! You, know, make sure they haven't been camping out at terrorist camps, involved in anti-america activity, belong to radical groups, etc....

A vetting process is not new tolegal immigration....it's just been ignored in the US, sadly.

The US immigration system is the toughest in the world. Unlike the Fox News bubble, in reality no one gets to come here without being vetted to the extreme. If anything, we should cut down the process to make it easier for top talent to move here. The Syrian refugees who aren't top talent can go move to the gulf states where their barbaric Stone Age nonsense is the law.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 19, 2016

Yep, I won't stop you from saying all the stupid things you like and tell some lies too.

Oh and I'll bet you're really proud that your man Trump passed out Play-Doh to the LA flood victims.

Campaign manager Kellyanne Conway insisted that the visit was not a photo op, praising Trump for acting “presidential” and describing his stay there as “a decidedly nonpolitical event, no press allowed, going to help people on the ground who are in need.”

"Help the people on the ground" by giving the Play-Doh???

ROFL

Two types of people are Hillary supporters...Fools and slugs.  Which are you.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 19, 2016

Yep, I won't stop you from saying all the stupid things you like and tell some lies too.

Oh and I'll bet you're really proud that your man Trump passed out Play-Doh to the LA flood victims.

Campaign manager Kellyanne Conway insisted that the visit was not a photo op, praising Trump for acting “presidential” and describing his stay there as “a decidedly nonpolitical event, no press allowed, going to help people on the ground who are in need.”

"Help the people on the ground" by giving the Play-Doh???

ROFL

That's doing a lot better than our failure of a current President, Obama...did you see what else was in

those boxes? Not just Play-Doh. 

How dare and how convenient that Obama take the advice of the governor and stay away...he's golfing while

people are miserable. Hillary said her visit there would be a distraction...to who? or for who? 

The truck with supplies was filled with drinks, socks, wipes, toys etc. Don't reduce his contribution and time to

simply handing out boxes of Play-Doh.

I AM PROUD OF HIM.

HE WAS THERE. 

Obama is interested in going out with a bang and I hope he does. Oh, you like what he's doing with the internet?

That will be a bang to remember for generations to come...put that on the crap sheet right next to ObamaCare.

 

Triumph! and I hope he will because if he does, there might be some hope left. And what did he say? - What

have you got to lose? What the HE*LL have you got to lose? He's right, what have we got to lose that we already

haven't?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 20, 2016

That's doing a lot better than our failure of a current President, Obama...did you see what else was in

those boxes? Not just Play-Doh. 

How dare and how convenient that Obama take the advice of the governor and stay away...he's golfing while

people are miserable. Hillary said her visit there would be a distraction...to who? or for who? 

The truck with supplies was filled with drinks, socks, wipes, toys etc. Don't reduce his contribution and time to

simply handing out boxes of Play-Doh.

I AM PROUD OF HIM.

HE WAS THERE. 

Obama is interested in going out with a bang and I hope he does. Oh, you like what he's doing with the internet?

That will be a bang to remember for generations to come...put that on the crap sheet right next to ObamaCare.

 

Triumph! and I hope he will because if he does, there might be some hope left. And what did he say? - What

have you got to lose? What the HE*LL have you got to lose? He's right, what have we got to lose that we already

haven't?

Hi dr65, Thank you. Check out PlanB's blog, he made an interesting point.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Question:  What's the difference between obama and Hillary?  Answer:  There is none.

http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/print/2008/6/hillary_obama.jpg

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 20, 2016

That's doing a lot better than our failure of a current President, Obama...did you see what else was in

those boxes? Not just Play-Doh. 

How dare and how convenient that Obama take the advice of the governor and stay away...he's golfing while

people are miserable. Hillary said her visit there would be a distraction...to who? or for who? 

The truck with supplies was filled with drinks, socks, wipes, toys etc. Don't reduce his contribution and time to

simply handing out boxes of Play-Doh.

I AM PROUD OF HIM.

HE WAS THERE. 

Obama is interested in going out with a bang and I hope he does. Oh, you like what he's doing with the internet?

That will be a bang to remember for generations to come...put that on the crap sheet right next to ObamaCare.

 

Triumph! and I hope he will because if he does, there might be some hope left. And what did he say? - What

have you got to lose? What the HE*LL have you got to lose? He's right, what have we got to lose that we already

haven't?

You see the truth. I love Trump supporters. Trump 2016.

bigbear29

The governor is correct to tell the President to stay away.

It gives them time to really assess the area to possibly tell the President how much money they might need.  Trump and his play-doh can go home.

 

Taylor Swift did the right thing to send 1 million dollars!

 

AGAIN! Trump can take his PLAY-DOH and go home!

They need money, not play-doh.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 20, 2016

The governor is correct to tell the President to stay away.

It gives them time to really assess the area to possibly tell the President how much money they might need.  Trump and his play-doh can go home.

 

Taylor Swift did the right thing to send 1 million dollars!

 

AGAIN! Trump can take his PLAY-DOH and go home!

They need money, not play-doh.

OH STFU YOU FOOL!  TRUMP IS A GOOD MAN AND LIKES HELPING PEOPLE.  THIS IS A TRUE STORY......

BACK IN 1995 TRUMPS LIMO GOT A FLAT TIRE.  A YOUNG COUPLE STOPPED TO HELP HIM, THE YOUNG MAN FIXED TRUMPS TIRE.  TRUMP ASKED THE MAN HOW HE COULD REPAY HIM.  THE YOUNG MAN SAID YOU CAN SEND MY WIFE SOME FLOWERS.  TRUMP DID MORE THAN THAT.... READY FOR THIS.... TRUMP PAID OFF THAT YOUNG COUPLES MORTGAGE ON THEIR HOME.   WOULD OBAMA OR HILLARY DO THIS ????

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/married-couple-helped-trump-after-his-limo-broke-down-what-he-did-next-is-amazing/

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 20, 2016

OH STFU YOU FOOL!  TRUMP IS A GOOD MAN AND LIKES HELPING PEOPLE.  THIS IS A TRUE STORY......

BACK IN 1995 TRUMPS LIMO GOT A FLAT TIRE.  A YOUNG COUPLE STOPPED TO HELP HIM, THE YOUNG MAN FIXED TRUMPS TIRE.  TRUMP ASKED THE MAN HOW HE COULD REPAY HIM.  THE YOUNG MAN SAID YOU CAN SEND MY WIFE SOME FLOWERS.  TRUMP DID MORE THAN THAT.... READY FOR THIS.... TRUMP PAID OFF THAT YOUNG COUPLES MORTGAGE ON THEIR HOME.   WOULD OBAMA OR HILLARY DO THIS ????

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/married-couple-helped-trump-after-his-limo-broke-down-what-he-did-next-is-amazing/

"In fact, back in 1997, when the Donald Trump version of the tale was still relatively new, Trump's office was actively denying its truthfulness:

The implausible story making the rounds at Toronto doughnut shops is that somebody's newphew's friend's cousin, Joe, was driving down Highway 401 in his pickup truck when he spotted a white stretch limousine, with its hood up, on the shoulder.

Joe, being a good samaritan, stopped to help. Within minutes, he got the limo running and a grateful driver asked for Joe's card so he could send him a little something.

"Nah," Joe said. "It was nothing. I was just trying to be helpful."

The driver insisted, so Joe gave him a card and forgot about it. A week later, he got a call from his bank informing him that his $160,000 mortgage had been paid off by Donald Trump, who was a passenger in the limo.

         "We've heard the story," said an irritated-sounding assistant of Mr. Trump's at his New York office. "No, it isn't true.""

 

http://www.snopes.com/luck/trump.asp

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Aug 20, 2016

"In fact, back in 1997, when the Donald Trump version of the tale was still relatively new, Trump's office was actively denying its truthfulness:

The implausible story making the rounds at Toronto doughnut shops is that somebody's newphew's friend's cousin, Joe, was driving down Highway 401 in his pickup truck when he spotted a white stretch limousine, with its hood up, on the shoulder.

Joe, being a good samaritan, stopped to help. Within minutes, he got the limo running and a grateful driver asked for Joe's card so he could send him a little something.

"Nah," Joe said. "It was nothing. I was just trying to be helpful."

The driver insisted, so Joe gave him a card and forgot about it. A week later, he got a call from his bank informing him that his $160,000 mortgage had been paid off by Donald Trump, who was a passenger in the limo.

         "We've heard the story," said an irritated-sounding assistant of Mr. Trump's at his New York office. "No, it isn't true.""

 

http://www.snopes.com/luck/trump.asp

Been researching this on google.  Snopes is liberal as hell.  Both Donald Trump and his son's said this is true.  I choose to believe Trump.  You believe what you want.

bigbear29

Prove that it is true!  Another story states that the man got a check for $10,000

 

I think it is not true at all.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 20, 2016

Been researching this on google.  Snopes is liberal as hell.  Both Donald Trump and his son's said this is true.  I choose to believe Trump.  You believe what you want.

Then Trump should have this man endorse him or wave the stamped check in the lamestream media's faces.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Aug 20, 2016

Then Trump should have this man endorse him or wave the stamped check in the lamestream media's faces.

Trump isn't obama or Hillary.  Trump doesn't seem to be a man to use people for political gain.

bigbear29

Blah blah blah blah blah, yada yada yada yada yada, so I guess you can not prove that your trump story is true?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 20, 2016

Blah blah blah blah blah, yada yada yada yada yada, so I guess you can not prove that your trump story is true?

You are correct, I can't.  Can you reference a lie Trump has told?  obama has lied numerous times to the American people.  Hillary has lied to the American people numerous times.  I wouldn't believe obama or Hillary on anything they say.  Until I learn different, I will believe an honest man.

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 19, 2016

Obama will best be known for perpetrating the ultimate con job on America. This Muslim African hoodwinked the most powerful country on earth.

No doubt! Obama is the ultimate Trojan horse for radical Islam. His fake Christian faith is a farce that everyone has seen right through.

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 20, 2016

You are correct, I can't.  Can you reference a lie Trump has told?  obama has lied numerous times to the American people.  Hillary has lied to the American people numerous times.  I wouldn't believe obama or Hillary on anything they say.  Until I learn different, I will believe an honest man.

Trump may be a little outspoken at times but what should anyone expect when he's not following a script. Unlike Obama or Hillary, Trump is a decent, honest family man who actually cares about America. 

The value he has instilled in his children speak volumes.

bigbear29

And what makes trump an honest man

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 20, 2016

Blah blah blah blah blah, yada yada yada yada yada, so I guess you can not prove that your trump story is true?

bigbear29

Yes the value of that golden spoon speaks $$$$$$$$$

The maid service, the chauffeur driven car to school and the cooks to fix a bowl of cereal.  Trump cares about america's money.

bigbear29

Trump spent more than $85,000 on ads to bring back the death penalty when New York had the Central Park jogger trial.  4 or 5 black men that were innocent in the long run and they sued New York for $41,000,000 and won.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 20, 2016

I got his number. He has serious trust issues, and that has nothing to do with us.

"I got his number. "

And I have your number.

LiveinGreenBay July 31: "Who's Ridge?  Before my time."

sully16 July 31: "He is my friend and I miss him dearly everyday. He's one of the good guys in America."

LiveinGreenBay July 31: "So what happened?  Did he just stop posting?"

sully16 July 31: "Yes, Not sure what happened."

sully61 July 31: "I just hope he's okay and just had to walk away"

stack47 July 31: "Why do you think he 'had to walk away'?"

sully61 July 31:  "I don't know."

But now you have his number and know he has "serious trust issues". ROFL

What's the Chippewa word for "speaking with forked tongue"?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 20, 2016

Two types of people are Hillary supporters...Fools and slugs.  Which are you.

You really should stick to trying figure out why you never won a jackpot. Here's a hint; the odds.

Or try to figure out why Clinton is beating Trump by 15 points in the Wisconsin polls.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 21, 2016

"I got his number. "

And I have your number.

LiveinGreenBay July 31: "Who's Ridge?  Before my time."

sully16 July 31: "He is my friend and I miss him dearly everyday. He's one of the good guys in America."

LiveinGreenBay July 31: "So what happened?  Did he just stop posting?"

sully16 July 31: "Yes, Not sure what happened."

sully61 July 31: "I just hope he's okay and just had to walk away"

stack47 July 31: "Why do you think he 'had to walk away'?"

sully61 July 31:  "I don't know."

But now you have his number and know he has "serious trust issues". ROFL

What's the Chippewa word for "speaking with forked tongue"?

Give it a rest I am not spilling someone else's business, it's just easier to say I don't know.

You know what I mean, you just want to try to prove something that isn't there.

If we were good buds, I would play dumb and keep your business to myself.

Your always out to prove the whole world is lying, and it can be true, we all lie, but we all also have reasons, right or wrong. I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else.

So from here on out, Ridge is gone, most likely will not be back, I miss him and any info I have is private.

Happy now.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 21, 2016

Give it a rest I am not spilling someone else's business, it's just easier to say I don't know.

You know what I mean, you just want to try to prove something that isn't there.

If we were good buds, I would play dumb and keep your business to myself.

Your always out to prove the whole world is lying, and it can be true, we all lie, but we all also have reasons, right or wrong. I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else.

So from here on out, Ridge is gone, most likely will not be back, I miss him and any info I have is private.

Happy now.

"If we were good buds, I would play dumb and keep your business to myself."

What is so difficult in just saying he was just a message board acquaintance in the first place?

"Your always out to prove the whole world is lying"

That's a lie! ROFL

"I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else."

There is nothing to prove; if you don't know why your "best friend" that you "miss dearly" hasn't posted in two years, just maybe you two weren't as close as you thought.

"So from here on out, Ridge is gone, most likely will not be back, I miss him and any info I have is private."

Most of the LP members following him knew something was wrong when his premium membership expired two years ago. One of them even mentioned it when his account logged on in April 2015.

At best I proved you probably have no clue why he quit posting, but so what, nobody cares about your credibility.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 21, 2016

"If we were good buds, I would play dumb and keep your business to myself."

What is so difficult in just saying he was just a message board acquaintance in the first place?

"Your always out to prove the whole world is lying"

That's a lie! ROFL

"I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else."

There is nothing to prove; if you don't know why your "best friend" that you "miss dearly" hasn't posted in two years, just maybe you two weren't as close as you thought.

"So from here on out, Ridge is gone, most likely will not be back, I miss him and any info I have is private."

Most of the LP members following him knew something was wrong when his premium membership expired two years ago. One of them even mentioned it when his account logged on in April 2015.

At best I proved you probably have no clue why he quit posting, but so what, nobody cares about your credibility.

BLAH BLAH BLAH, Go get help for your OCD.

You have serious issues . And you will be blocked again. Life is just way to short for you and your BS.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 21, 2016

BLAH BLAH BLAH, Go get help for your OCD.

You have serious issues . And you will be blocked again. Life is just way to short for you and your BS.

Oh goody, more lame childish insults.

"And you will be blocked again."

Is that like the last time you had me blocked, but still commented about my posts?

"Life is just way to short for you and your BS."

The real BS is you pretending he was your dear close friend instead of admitting he was the same message board acquaintance all the other LP members knew. Stick to the real lottery topics where your opinions will be proved right or wrong by the results. I'll bet you really believe all this nonsense about Clinton you and your new dear close friends are saying will sway the election results.

Stack47

I doubt it, but hopefully the insults will stop and we can get back to the topic.

I saw where one of Trump's new campaign managers Kellyanne Conway  when asked about Trump's real chances, she acknowledge Clinton has 242 electoral votes locked up and it's going to be an uphill battle.  There is no Vegas line because betting on elections is illegal, but currently Ladbrokes in England has Clinton at 1:4, Trump at 3:1, and Trump being replaced as the Republican candidate is 7:1.

For those wondering where the 242 votes came from, it's from the solid 2012 states voting Democrat. If the that number stays firm, Trump must win Florida and almost all the other toss-up states. The polls in two of the toss-up states, PA and Colorado show Clinton ahead by 9 and 12 respectively. And those 29 electoral votes put Clinton at 271.

The emails and the insults to POWs, Gold Star Families, American born judges, etc. are well known and most voters already made up their minds. So the question is are Clinton's odds as the favorite worth the bet and are Trump's 3:1 as the underdog much lower than they should be?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 21, 2016

BLAH BLAH BLAH, Go get help for your OCD.

You have serious issues . And you will be blocked again. Life is just way to short for you and your BS.

He is so insanely jealous of Ridge. Jealous of his popularity. Hopefully he and his breakdown will  go to the land of no avatar soon.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 21, 2016

Oh goody, more lame childish insults.

"And you will be blocked again."

Is that like the last time you had me blocked, but still commented about my posts?

"Life is just way to short for you and your BS."

The real BS is you pretending he was your dear close friend instead of admitting he was the same message board acquaintance all the other LP members knew. Stick to the real lottery topics where your opinions will be proved right or wrong by the results. I'll bet you really believe all this nonsense about Clinton you and your new dear close friends are saying will sway the election results.

Nonsense about Hillary Clinton?  LOL!  You kidding?  What nonsense are you referring to?  Lying to the American people and the relatives of four dead Americans about Benghazi?  It was caused by a youtube video and we'll get the people responsible for this.  (It was a coordinated terrorist attack on the anniversary of 911, was anyone brought to justice yet)?  Or about lying to Congress, the FBI and the American people about those emails?  How about those 33,000 emails deleted after she got a subpoena to produce all the emails?  That was obstruction of justice, a criminal offense.  Or for the best one...Selling favors as SOS through the Clinton Foundation?  How about that Russian uranium deal?  I'm sure the list is much more extensive.  Anyone who votes for that lying scum needs their head examined.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 21, 2016

He is so insanely jealous of Ridge. Jealous of his popularity. Hopefully he and his breakdown will  go to the land of no avatar soon.

He's abusive.

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 21, 2016

Nonsense about Hillary Clinton?  LOL!  You kidding?  What nonsense are you referring to?  Lying to the American people and the relatives of four dead Americans about Benghazi?  It was caused by a youtube video and we'll get the people responsible for this.  (It was a coordinated terrorist attack on the anniversary of 911, was anyone brought to justice yet)?  Or about lying to Congress, the FBI and the American people about those emails?  How about those 33,000 emails deleted after she got a subpoena to produce all the emails?  That was obstruction of justice, a criminal offense.  Or for the best one...Selling favors as SOS through the Clinton Foundation?  How about that Russian uranium deal?  I'm sure the list is much more extensive.  Anyone who votes for that lying scum needs their head examined.

On a "Higher Note", I'm going to play Devil's Advocate to all of the Trump/Clinton bashing ....

People can Change ....

If Clinton is elected President ...  after all of her wrongdoing .... perhaps she will make a VOW to herself and to the American People, to be a better person than she has been thus far, to be a better politician than she has been thus far, to be a better President than what the American people currently expect, and uphold that VOW. At least Clinton does have experience in office, and she knows what to expect on the job.  After previous behavior has sabotaged her career thus far, perhaps she can pivot and change her approach, and figure out how to bring some NEW Integrity of Character to the Presidential Office. "Miracles" do happen in life.

If Trump is elected President ... same scenario ...  Trump's MOUTH has sabotaged his own campaign thus far. He has No Experience in political office, and does not know what to expect to have to deal with, while sitting in the Presidential SeatTrump is in for a very SERIOUS REALITY CHECK !!!  The JOB of U.S. PRESIDENT is MORE DIFFICULT than he ever imagined !!! It's NOT like ruling Trump International Empire or the Celebrity Apprentice !!!  That being a stated FACT  ... Perhaps Trump will realize within the FIRST 100 DAYS IN OFFICE, that he MUST adopt a NEW FRONT FACE FACADE STRATEGY in Acting as President and presenting himself to Congress & the Senate, the American People, and the World at Large. Trump will swiftly come to realize what new legislation is possible to enact, and what is Not possible to enact, dealing with Congress and the Senate.  Once that Reality Check sinks in, it remains to be seen, how Trump will Pivot and Change for the BETTER, in representing the Best Interests of the American People, both domestically and World Wide. Thus, Trump must also figure out how to bring some New Integrity of Character to the Presidential Office, and LEARN the JOB !!! ... "Miracles" do happen in life.

No President can Please Everyone.  No President's New Policies can Please Everyone.  Not everyone will Benefit by New Approaches and New Ideas.

However, I am giving BOTH Clinton and Trump the BENEFIT OF A DOUBT, b/c we, the American People, are STUCK with whomever is elected, and it just makes more sense to choose to see the Glass as Half Full rather than Half Empty. It's called POSITIVE THINKING and having a POSITIVE OUTLOOK on LIFE, b/c your MINDSET shapes your perception and your experience of life.

Both Trump and Clinton Can Change ... Let's just HOPE that they DO CHANGE for the BETTER, in serving in the Office of the United States PRESIDENT !!!

If someone else is elected President, the same reasoning should apply !!!  Always HOPE for the BEST to Occur !!! I believe Positive Thinking is part of the American Ideology !!!

bigbear29

Well said Destinycreation, but I have extreme doubt that trump can change.  I don't think that he gets it, look who he brings into his team, Roger Ailes (women are going to love that, not!) And the other guy that runs Breitbart (extreme right wingers), trump does not get it.  Nothing will get done in Washington because trump is so thin skinned.  Trump would make a bad president.

Romancandle's avatarRomancandle

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 21, 2016

He's abusive.

Abusive? No.

Have you read some of your comments towards others in this thread...?

The insults, the name calling... Now that's a form of abuse.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Romancandle on Aug 21, 2016

Abusive? No.

Have you read some of your comments towards others in this thread...?

The insults, the name calling... Now that's a form of abuse.

Stack is rather infamous in lp. Maybe you just resent women standing up for themselves?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

Well said Destinycreation, but I have extreme doubt that trump can change.  I don't think that he gets it, look who he brings into his team, Roger Ailes (women are going to love that, not!) And the other guy that runs Breitbart (extreme right wingers), trump does not get it.  Nothing will get done in Washington because trump is so thin skinned.  Trump would make a bad president.

Those are campaign positions not cabinate positions.  IMO Trump will pick highly qualified people in various positions of expertise.  Hillary on the other hand will pick political flunkies just like obama did.  See the results?

bigbear29

It just shows poor judgement to pick Roger Ailes if you are trying to get women votes.  The other pick, the guy that runs Breitbart if you are trying to get black and hispanic votes.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

It just shows poor judgement to pick Roger Ailes if you are trying to get women votes.  The other pick, the guy that runs Breitbart if you are trying to get black and hispanic votes.

I really don't think voters care much about campaign picks.  And while we're on the topic of "poor judgement".... How about that private unsecured server Hillary used as SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?  As I recall it was in a closet off a bathroom.  Is that right?  LOL

bigbear29

Hillary is still winning!  Trump is still losing and he is doing nothing to change that.

 

With the emails, Hillary is still winning.

Early voting, 3 weeks to go.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

Hillary is still winning!  Trump is still losing and he is doing nothing to change that.

 

With the emails, Hillary is still winning.

Early voting, 3 weeks to go.

Its still early buddy.  But lets face it... No one here will change anyone's opinion one way or another.  But it's still fun.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Romancandle on Aug 21, 2016

Abusive? No.

Have you read some of your comments towards others in this thread...?

The insults, the name calling... Now that's a form of abuse.

I called kingoearth man-child, oh no, what will become of me.

When you harass someone with the same questions, make the same statements over and over demanding answers, that is a form of mental and emotional abuse.

That is someone who wants to beat you down and control you. I have done none of that to anyone.

I spent 15 years helping abused women, the line of questioning and the throwing of someone's words in their face over and over is classic abuse.

kreative1's avatarkreative1

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 21, 2016

Its still early buddy.  But lets face it... No one here will change anyone's opinion one way or another.  But it's still fun.

I'm curious what your friends reactions are when you say "this will be fun"

LOL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by kreative1 on Aug 21, 2016

I'm curious what your friends reactions are when you say "this will be fun"

LOL

You don't think political discourse is fun?  I enjoy arguing politics.  Kind of a hobby, like playing the lottery.  What do you and your friends like talking about?  The Kardashian's or some other important topic?

Romancandle's avatarRomancandle

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 21, 2016

Stack is rather infamous in lp. Maybe you just resent women standing up for themselves?

Infamous for abusing women?  I had no idea and if that's true, I either missed it and/or it happened before my time as a member.

I would support any women standing up for herself and do not appreciate your baseless accusation towards me.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

The comments here mimic the news or the lack of it on some networks.  Every election, each party tries

to demonize the other which is an attempt to control.   The U.S. use to be the envy of the world for our

values but now we are nothing but a joke.  Trump has many faults but he is a leader which is what is now

needed more than ever.

Trump knows the value of delegation and will put the smartest people to task which is quite different than

we have now.  Obama's agenda is also Hillary's and we will see more and more of it if she's elected.  The

Supreme Court is the only thing standing in the way of this agenda and that's the big issue we face.  I

personally hate people who vote along party lines putting their faith in the party without question.  I am not

a republican, democrat or independent, I am a American.  If Trump were running as a democrat the arguments

would be the same, just reversed.   Stupid is, stupid does.  Many things Trump says makes my gut churn but

watching Hillary's lies makes me sick.   The Clinton's are crooks and have been since the early days in Arkansas.

The Walton's are big time Hillary supporters, ever wonder why?  The Walton's make Trump look like a poor boy

and like flip-floppen Bernie said, Wal-Mart's pay is so low that we the taxpayers have to support their employees

with food stamps.   Do we really want to open the door to Mexico, maybe donkey shows are becoming the norm

and maybe we can drop our age of consent to 12.   Look at the children of the last few presidents.  Drugs, booze,

rebellion etc... compared to Trumps family.   In my personal life I see these sort of things in family's where the

parents act one way in public opposed to how they act at home.  No wonder the kids are so wacked out.

People can vote the party line's which are hell bent on driving people apart or you can pull your head out of your

ass and look at the facts that really matter. 

RL

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Romancandle on Aug 21, 2016

Infamous for abusing women?  I had no idea and if that's true, I either missed it and/or it happened before my time as a member.

I would support any women standing up for herself and do not appreciate your baseless accusation towards me.

Too bad. Get over it. Stop trying to bully people.

bigbear29

Yada yada yada, trump will pick the right people, trump may know construction but he has no clue about running the United States.  Trump stated that he knows more than the generals as far as fighting isis, blah blah blah.  Trump is too thin skinned to be the president.  Trump is 600 million dollars in debt.  Trump release your taxes!  My vote is for someone that will bring people together, and that's Hillary.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

Hillary is still winning!  Trump is still losing and he is doing nothing to change that.

 

With the emails, Hillary is still winning.

Early voting, 3 weeks to go.

Dewey - Hillary, see a parallel?

http://www.deweydefeatstruman.com/Deweybio.htm

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

Yada yada yada, trump will pick the right people, trump may know construction but he has no clue about running the United States.  Trump stated that he knows more than the generals as far as fighting isis, blah blah blah.  Trump is too thin skinned to be the president.  Trump is 600 million dollars in debt.  Trump release your taxes!  My vote is for someone that will bring people together, and that's Hillary.

bigbear = little-balls

 

"Yada yada yada, trump will pick the right people, trump may know construction but he has no clue about running the United States.  Trump stated that he knows more than the generals as far as fighting isis, blah blah blah.  Trump is too thin skinned to be the president.  Trump is 600 million dollars in debt.  Trump release your taxes!  My vote is for someone that will bring people together, and that's Hillary."

 

Stupid is, Stupid does.

RL

bigbear29

Donald Trump's companies are 'at least $650m in debt'

“I’m very rich,” Donald Trump has often said to woo the crowds, talking about the fine marble in his hotels and the millions of dollars he has both given to the veterans and to funding his campaign.

A New York Times investigation has revealed, however, that his companies are carrying debt of at least $650m (£497m) – more than double the amount that he disclosed in public records.

While Allen Weisselberg, chief financial officer of the Trump Organisation, insisted to the newspaper that Mr Trump’s company was a tightly-run family business, his critics have argued that the Republican owns minority stakes in an opaque network of partnerships and limited liability companies, and relies on credit and loans to prop them up.

One example is an office building on Sixth Avenue in Manhattan, which is indebted by $950 million. The two major backers are the Bank of China and Goldman Sachs. Mr Trump has railed against China for not paying its fair share of taxes for “taking” American manufacturing jobs, and he has blasted his rival Hillary Clinton for accepting $675,000 in speaking fees from Goldman Sachs.

 

RELEASE YOUR TAXES trump!!!!!!!

Mr Trump’s limited partnerships, of which there are many, have debt of close to $2bn, according to public documents.

“I am the king of debt,” he once told CNN, and the federal filing system for candidates allows him to reign as such.

The disclosure form provided by the Federal Election Commission for presidential candidates asks them to place assets in categories, the highest of which is “more than $50 million”. This opens the door for much higher-valued assets to be listed without being specific. 

The form also does not require that candidates list corporate debt, and Mr Trump has said he has no personal debt. And where Mr Trump owns less than 100 per cent of a company, the candidate is not required to disclose debt of that company.

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Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

Yada yada yada, trump will pick the right people, trump may know construction but he has no clue about running the United States.  Trump stated that he knows more than the generals as far as fighting isis, blah blah blah.  Trump is too thin skinned to be the president.  Trump is 600 million dollars in debt.  Trump release your taxes!  My vote is for someone that will bring people together, and that's Hillary.

Hillary leaves people to die on a rooftop then lies about it, says a video caused the attack, when pulled in front of Congress to explain, she says " What does it matter now"

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

Yada yada yada, trump will pick the right people, trump may know construction but he has no clue about running the United States.  Trump stated that he knows more than the generals as far as fighting isis, blah blah blah.  Trump is too thin skinned to be the president.  Trump is 600 million dollars in debt.  Trump release your taxes!  My vote is for someone that will bring people together, and that's Hillary.

LMAO!  LOL and LOL again.  Hillary will bring people together????  HA!  Like obama did?  The great divider!  Race relations haven't been this bad in 50 years!  Hillary will not only divide people based on race but also on gender.  Thats a fact Jack.  Bring people together...That's priceless.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Obama and Bush put the US 20 trillion in dept.  Hillary, add another 40 trillion. 

Trump uses dept management to earn money.  Name a single western bank that uses the dollar and show me 

one that has even a fraction of it's deposits in cash.

RL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

Donald Trump's companies are 'at least $650m in debt'

“I’m very rich,” Donald Trump has often said to woo the crowds, talking about the fine marble in his hotels and the millions of dollars he has both given to the veterans and to funding his campaign.

A New York Times investigation has revealed, however, that his companies are carrying debt of at least $650m (£497m) – more than double the amount that he disclosed in public records.

While Allen Weisselberg, chief financial officer of the Trump Organisation, insisted to the newspaper that Mr Trump’s company was a tightly-run family business, his critics have argued that the Republican owns minority stakes in an opaque network of partnerships and limited liability companies, and relies on credit and loans to prop them up.

One example is an office building on Sixth Avenue in Manhattan, which is indebted by $950 million. The two major backers are the Bank of China and Goldman Sachs. Mr Trump has railed against China for not paying its fair share of taxes for “taking” American manufacturing jobs, and he has blasted his rival Hillary Clinton for accepting $675,000 in speaking fees from Goldman Sachs.

 

RELEASE YOUR TAXES trump!!!!!!!

Mr Trump’s limited partnerships, of which there are many, have debt of close to $2bn, according to public documents.

“I am the king of debt,” he once told CNN, and the federal filing system for candidates allows him to reign as such.

The disclosure form provided by the Federal Election Commission for presidential candidates asks them to place assets in categories, the highest of which is “more than $50 million”. This opens the door for much higher-valued assets to be listed without being specific. 

The form also does not require that candidates list corporate debt, and Mr Trump has said he has no personal debt. And where Mr Trump owns less than 100 per cent of a company, the candidate is not required to disclose debt of that company.

New York Times?  LOL!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Notice the Iran payoff, They had to use other currencies because they could not find that much cash in dollars.

RL

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Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

Donald Trump's companies are 'at least $650m in debt'

“I’m very rich,” Donald Trump has often said to woo the crowds, talking about the fine marble in his hotels and the millions of dollars he has both given to the veterans and to funding his campaign.

A New York Times investigation has revealed, however, that his companies are carrying debt of at least $650m (£497m) – more than double the amount that he disclosed in public records.

While Allen Weisselberg, chief financial officer of the Trump Organisation, insisted to the newspaper that Mr Trump’s company was a tightly-run family business, his critics have argued that the Republican owns minority stakes in an opaque network of partnerships and limited liability companies, and relies on credit and loans to prop them up.

One example is an office building on Sixth Avenue in Manhattan, which is indebted by $950 million. The two major backers are the Bank of China and Goldman Sachs. Mr Trump has railed against China for not paying its fair share of taxes for “taking” American manufacturing jobs, and he has blasted his rival Hillary Clinton for accepting $675,000 in speaking fees from Goldman Sachs.

 

RELEASE YOUR TAXES trump!!!!!!!

Mr Trump’s limited partnerships, of which there are many, have debt of close to $2bn, according to public documents.

“I am the king of debt,” he once told CNN, and the federal filing system for candidates allows him to reign as such.

The disclosure form provided by the Federal Election Commission for presidential candidates asks them to place assets in categories, the highest of which is “more than $50 million”. This opens the door for much higher-valued assets to be listed without being specific. 

The form also does not require that candidates list corporate debt, and Mr Trump has said he has no personal debt. And where Mr Trump owns less than 100 per cent of a company, the candidate is not required to disclose debt of that company.

Cut and paste, or just plain old plagiarism ?

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Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 21, 2016

Notice the Iran payoff, They had to use other currencies because they could not find that much cash in dollars.

RL

And you know, Valerie Jarret is Iranian.....hmmmm plot thickens.

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Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 21, 2016

Too bad. Get over it. Stop trying to bully people.

Lovies You go girl.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 21, 2016

Notice the Iran payoff, They had to use other currencies because they could not find that much cash in dollars.

RL

Actually its illegal to pay Iran in US dollars.  That's why obama had to pay the ransom in foreign currencies.  BTW that is a federal crime and should lead to obama's impeachment.  Will that happen?  No.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Western civilization runs on debt, however, when you max out your credit card and can't even make interest payments

you finished.  Government is a business and the same rules apply, you must be more savvy at the art of making deals.

RL

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Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 21, 2016

The comments here mimic the news or the lack of it on some networks.  Every election, each party tries

to demonize the other which is an attempt to control.   The U.S. use to be the envy of the world for our

values but now we are nothing but a joke.  Trump has many faults but he is a leader which is what is now

needed more than ever.

Trump knows the value of delegation and will put the smartest people to task which is quite different than

we have now.  Obama's agenda is also Hillary's and we will see more and more of it if she's elected.  The

Supreme Court is the only thing standing in the way of this agenda and that's the big issue we face.  I

personally hate people who vote along party lines putting their faith in the party without question.  I am not

a republican, democrat or independent, I am a American.  If Trump were running as a democrat the arguments

would be the same, just reversed.   Stupid is, stupid does.  Many things Trump says makes my gut churn but

watching Hillary's lies makes me sick.   The Clinton's are crooks and have been since the early days in Arkansas.

The Walton's are big time Hillary supporters, ever wonder why?  The Walton's make Trump look like a poor boy

and like flip-floppen Bernie said, Wal-Mart's pay is so low that we the taxpayers have to support their employees

with food stamps.   Do we really want to open the door to Mexico, maybe donkey shows are becoming the norm

and maybe we can drop our age of consent to 12.   Look at the children of the last few presidents.  Drugs, booze,

rebellion etc... compared to Trumps family.   In my personal life I see these sort of things in family's where the

parents act one way in public opposed to how they act at home.  No wonder the kids are so wacked out.

People can vote the party line's which are hell bent on driving people apart or you can pull your head out of your

ass and look at the facts that really matter. 

RL

Good old Walmart, has to help put their employees on food stamps, so they pay 9 dollars and hour, maybe give 20 hours, minus deductions, you might take home 135 dollars...so when you get your food stamps of 800 dollars, you can shop at Walmart and boy oh boy are they ahead.

Good post RL

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Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 21, 2016

Western civilization runs on debt, however, when you max out your credit card and can't even make interest payments

you finished.  Government is a business and the same rules apply, you must be more savvy at the art of making deals.

RL

Trump has that savvy, I hope he wins.

bigbear29

RELEASE YOUR TAX RETURNS, TRUMP!

The truth is coming!!!!!

Trump is totally in deep with debt!  The truth is coming!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

RELEASE YOUR TAX RETURNS, TRUMP!

The truth is coming!!!!!

Trump is totally in deep with debt!  The truth is coming!

He does NOT have to, it it NOT required by law, and why do you even care?

Oh and please keep trolling.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

RELEASE YOUR TAX RETURNS, TRUMP!

The truth is coming!!!!!

Trump is totally in deep with debt!  The truth is coming!

What about those 33,000 emails Hillary deleted?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 21, 2016

What about those 33,000 emails Hillary deleted?

Another Hillafry lie, said they were all about Chelsea's wedding.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

And yoga.  LOL

bigbear29

You are right that trump does not have to release his taxes.  And that will be more votes that trump will not get.

People want trump to be transparent.

Yes yes yes, please don't release your taxes trump = less votes for trump.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

You are right that trump does not have to release his taxes.  And that will be more votes that trump will not get.

People want trump to be transparent.

Yes yes yes, please don't release your taxes trump = less votes for trump.

No one really cares.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

RELEASE YOUR TAX RETURNS, TRUMP!

The truth is coming!!!!!

Trump is totally in deep with debt!  The truth is coming!

I would bet he is in debt, that's the way it works, it's called debt management.  The US has been mortgaged to the hilt

and I doubt we can even pay the interest.  Obama had no financial skills whatsoever and could not manage a McDonalds

which is clear given his record.   Hillary and Bill would be broke if not for foreign interest giving the Clinton foundation big

bucks for whatever.... it was they received.  Selling off American interest such as uranium mines to russia through canada.

Crooks of the worst kind.

RL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

The eyes are the window to ones soul...

http://www.wnd.com/files/2016/05/Hillary-1.jpg

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Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 21, 2016

And yoga.  LOL

My guess might be yogurt, yogurt cover pretzels with chocolate sprinkles.

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Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

You are right that trump does not have to release his taxes.  And that will be more votes that trump will not get.

People want trump to be transparent.

Yes yes yes, please don't release your taxes trump = less votes for trump.

Really???

Like Hitlery is transparent???

So transparent she let those guys die in Benghazi and lied about what transpired.

So transparent she lies and deletes emails to hide the truth.

And you're hung up on Trump's taxes?

Me thinks you have your priorities twisted.

bigbear29

"I would bet he is in debt, that's the way it works, it's called debt management",  YES!

 

Trump’s bad bet: How too much debt drove Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, his biggest casino aground.

Yes, that's some good debt management.

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Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

You are right that trump does not have to release his taxes.  And that will be more votes that trump will not get.

People want trump to be transparent.

Yes yes yes, please don't release your taxes trump = less votes for trump.

Good Lord, Thud

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

"I would bet he is in debt, that's the way it works, it's called debt management",  YES!

 

Trump’s bad bet: How too much debt drove Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, his biggest casino aground.

Yes, that's some good debt management.

LOL!  Did Hillary ever run a business?

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Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

"I would bet he is in debt, that's the way it works, it's called debt management",  YES!

 

Trump’s bad bet: How too much debt drove Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, his biggest casino aground.

Yes, that's some good debt management.

Your talking about a casino, are you kidding me, people can't gamble if they don't have jobs, why don't they have jobs?

Trump wants to help Americans go back to work, if you crush the middle class with taxes, then even the rich will feel the pain when no one has any money to spend.

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Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 21, 2016

LOL!  Did Hillary ever run a business?

no, she had no experience in finance.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Back in the 70's Hillary Clinton was fired from the Watergate commission for unethical conduct.  She lied.  Its a fact.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 21, 2016

Back in the 70's Hillary Clinton was fired from the Watergate commission for unethical conduct.  She lied.  Its a fact.

The 70's, life was so much better.Party

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 21, 2016

"I would bet he is in debt, that's the way it works, it's called debt management",  YES!

 

Trump’s bad bet: How too much debt drove Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, his biggest casino aground.

Yes, that's some good debt management.

That's Atlantic City....all the casinos are barely treading....know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em...

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 21, 2016

The 70's, life was so much better.Party

That's only because we were so much younger then.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 20, 2016

You are correct, I can't.  Can you reference a lie Trump has told?  obama has lied numerous times to the American people.  Hillary has lied to the American people numerous times.  I wouldn't believe obama or Hillary on anything they say.  Until I learn different, I will believe an honest man.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/19/fact-check-devastates-trump-ad-averages-1-lie-4-seconds.html

One lie every 4 seconds in his first ad, clearly an honest man.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/4834/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien

101 greatest lies. Not 1 lie, not 101 lies, the 101 greatest.

Romancandle's avatarRomancandle

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 21, 2016

Too bad. Get over it. Stop trying to bully people.

Bully?   LOL

I've never spoken ill towards anybody on this site... ever.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Unluckyone on Aug 20, 2016

No doubt! Obama is the ultimate Trojan horse for radical Islam. His fake Christian faith is a farce that everyone has seen right through.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/24/bill-maher-obama-hes-drop-dead-atheist/

If he was a radical islamist, he would join the party of crazy religious theocrats, not the opposing party. I will never understand how the right wing isn't begging to take in all the syrisan"refugees". They share the Reps views on women, gays, religion etc.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 21, 2016

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/24/bill-maher-obama-hes-drop-dead-atheist/

If he was a radical islamist, he would join the party of crazy religious theocrats, not the opposing party. I will never understand how the right wing isn't begging to take in all the syrisan"refugees". They share the Reps views on women, gays, religion etc.

Have you been drinking tonight?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 21, 2016

LOL!  Did Hillary ever run a business?

"In 1977, she joined the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock. After her husband's successful gubernatorial bid in 1978, she continued working at the firm, becoming Arkansas's first professional first lady. In 1980, she became the firm's first female partner."

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2007/01/30/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-hillary-clinton

Whether that counts is up to you. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 21, 2016

"In 1977, she joined the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock. After her husband's successful gubernatorial bid in 1978, she continued working at the firm, becoming Arkansas's first professional first lady. In 1980, she became the firm's first female partner."

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2007/01/30/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-hillary-clinton

Whether that counts is up to you. 

Not really.  But wasn't there a scandal regarding the Rose law firm and Hillary?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 21, 2016

He is so insanely jealous of Ridge. Jealous of his popularity. Hopefully he and his breakdown will  go to the land of no avatar soon.

When are you going to purchase a Premium membership?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 21, 2016

He's abusive.

Instead of ragging on me, why don't you buy your new best friend a Premium Membership. It's obvious Artist can't afford it; $7.95 is probably more than her hourly wage.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 21, 2016

Nonsense about Hillary Clinton?  LOL!  You kidding?  What nonsense are you referring to?  Lying to the American people and the relatives of four dead Americans about Benghazi?  It was caused by a youtube video and we'll get the people responsible for this.  (It was a coordinated terrorist attack on the anniversary of 911, was anyone brought to justice yet)?  Or about lying to Congress, the FBI and the American people about those emails?  How about those 33,000 emails deleted after she got a subpoena to produce all the emails?  That was obstruction of justice, a criminal offense.  Or for the best one...Selling favors as SOS through the Clinton Foundation?  How about that Russian uranium deal?  I'm sure the list is much more extensive.  Anyone who votes for that lying scum needs their head examined.

"Anyone who votes for that lying scum needs their head examined."

When handicapping anything talk is cheap especially considering everything on your wish list was known for years. Every day you come up with a new reason why you're not voting for Clinton and almost every day Clinton's lead in the polls grows larger.

Don't want to appear mean, but you message ain't working.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Romancandle on Aug 21, 2016

Abusive? No.

Have you read some of your comments towards others in this thread...?

The insults, the name calling... Now that's a form of abuse.

A few years back we had a well liked member who had light hearted and funny posts, but almost over night turned to the "dark side". He's gone now and it's a shame because I warned him because of his health, not to take what he read and posted so seriously. What we have now is a few wanna-be's that ignorantly believe lame insults will somehow prove their useless points.

IMO, the real difference between the two choices is people talk about what they believe Clinton did and others post quotes (including video) what Trump says. For those demanding Trump's tax returns, just read his presidential financial disclosure report so don't expect to see the tax returns in a couple of years.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 21, 2016

Too bad. Get over it. Stop trying to bully people.

No personal attacks.

Criticize ideas, not people.  Flaming will not be tolerated.  This includes any material which is vulgar, defamatory, inaccurate, harassing, hateful, threatening, invading of others' privacy, sexually-oriented, or violates any laws.

Artist77 Aug 21: Hopefully he and his breakdown will go to the land of no avatar soon.

Sully16 Aug 21: He's abusive.

Romancandle Aug. 21: Abusive? No. Have you read some of your comments towards others in this thread...? The insults, the name calling... Now that's a form of abuse.

Arist77 Aug. 21: Stack is rather infamous in lp. Maybe you just resent women standing up for themselves?

Romancandle Aug. 21: Infamous for abusing women? I had no idea and if that's true, I either missed it and/or it happened before my time as a member. I would support any women standing up for herself and do not appreciate your baseless accusation towards me.

Artist77 Aug 21: Too bad. Get over it. Stop trying to bully people.

Romancandle Aug 21: Bully? I've never spoken ill towards anybody on this site... ever.

It sure looks like Artist is maliciously trying to say I "abused women" hoping I'll "go to the land of no avatar soon". Calling someone a bully is one thing, but Artist is using a baseless innuendo that should have no place on this or any message board.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 22, 2016

Instead of ragging on me, why don't you buy your new best friend a Premium Membership. It's obvious Artist can't afford it; $7.95 is probably more than her hourly wage.

You are a truly sad and pathetic individual with absolutely no self esteem. Your attempt at propping yourself by ridiculing others based on your own life's experience is downright despicable.

Please seek professional help because you are in dire need of it.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 22, 2016

"Anyone who votes for that lying scum needs their head examined."

When handicapping anything talk is cheap especially considering everything on your wish list was known for years. Every day you come up with a new reason why you're not voting for Clinton and almost every day Clinton's lead in the polls grows larger.

Don't want to appear mean, but you message ain't working.

USC Dornsife/LA Times tracking poll.... Trump 44.6%... Hillary 43.5%.   LOL

http://www.latimes.com/politics/

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by mypiemaster on Jul 26, 2016

OH BOY!!! This thread will be very "interesting". Politics anyone?.

You was the very first post how did you predict this? Eek

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

http://i.makeagif.com/media/12-31-2015/IlPshn.gif

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 21, 2016

Not really.  But wasn't there a scandal regarding the Rose law firm and Hillary?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 22, 2016

You are a truly sad and pathetic individual with absolutely no self esteem. Your attempt at propping yourself by ridiculing others based on your own life's experience is downright despicable.

Please seek professional help because you are in dire need of it.

Green laughMiss "Obama is a secret muslim" should look in the mirror.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 22, 2016

You are a truly sad and pathetic individual with absolutely no self esteem. Your attempt at propping yourself by ridiculing others based on your own life's experience is downright despicable.

Please seek professional help because you are in dire need of it.

Nope "ridiculing others" is when you offer your uneducated opinions on how jackpot winners should collect and spend their winnings. Actually it's more like you are pretending to ridicule jackpot winnings; how many W-2Gs did you get the last ten years?

"Your attempt at propping yourself by ridiculing others based on your own life's experience is downright despicable."

I attack the message not the poster and many of your messages are begging to be attacked. Lot's of LP members have many years of lottery playing experience and some will correct erroneous remarks. Some people especially Donald Trump don't take constructive criticism very well and will attack anyone they think is criticising them believing they are being attack.

There is a huge difference between ridicule and criticism.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 22, 2016

Nope "ridiculing others" is when you offer your uneducated opinions on how jackpot winners should collect and spend their winnings. Actually it's more like you are pretending to ridicule jackpot winnings; how many W-2Gs did you get the last ten years?

"Your attempt at propping yourself by ridiculing others based on your own life's experience is downright despicable."

I attack the message not the poster and many of your messages are begging to be attacked. Lot's of LP members have many years of lottery playing experience and some will correct erroneous remarks. Some people especially Donald Trump don't take constructive criticism very well and will attack anyone they think is criticising them believing they are being attack.

There is a huge difference between ridicule and criticism.

I think its funny how democrats/liberals pull the "uneducated" card.  If you're so "educated" how can you support Hillary as President?  Her policies will drive this country into the gutter.  She wants to open the floodgates to middle-east refugees and wants to legalize millions of illegals currently here which will drive millions more to our southern border.  Have you ever heard of cloward-piven?  You know, the strategy of destroying the American economy through drastically increasing welfare roles.  I'm sure you have.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 22, 2016

USC Dornsife/LA Times tracking poll.... Trump 44.6%... Hillary 43.5%.   LOL

http://www.latimes.com/politics/

I can show ten polls showing Clinton leading from 2 to 13 points but dueling poll numbers prove little or nothing. Real Clear Politics has several National and state polls including senate races. In 2012 Obama got less than 52% of the popular vote, but got almost 62% of the electoral vote. Anyone placing a very large wager to get 2:5 on Clinton or 2:1 on Trump might need more information than a 2 or 3 point swing in the current National polls.

IMO, I'd look at the individual state past voting and current polls. For instance Texas has 38 electoral votes and voted Republican by over 10 points in the last four elections. The current polls show Trump leading by 11 points so it's a safe bet Trump will win in Texas. On the other hand California has voted Democrat by double digits in the last four elections and Clinton is currently leading by 13 to 30 points so it's a safe bet Clinton will win in California.

When you add up all the safe bets (states consistently voting for either party in the past and current polls indicating no change) the electoral vote is Clinton 249 and Trump 163. To win Trump needs to win 107 more electoral votes from swing states and must win both PA and Florida.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 22, 2016

I think its funny how democrats/liberals pull the "uneducated" card.  If you're so "educated" how can you support Hillary as President?  Her policies will drive this country into the gutter.  She wants to open the floodgates to middle-east refugees and wants to legalize millions of illegals currently here which will drive millions more to our southern border.  Have you ever heard of cloward-piven?  You know, the strategy of destroying the American economy through drastically increasing welfare roles.  I'm sure you have.

I'm educated enough to know what a logical fallacy is and you're full of them.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 22, 2016

I'm educated enough to know what a logical fallacy is and you're full of them.

Actually you're not.  Keep kidding yourself.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 22, 2016

I can show ten polls showing Clinton leading from 2 to 13 points but dueling poll numbers prove little or nothing. Real Clear Politics has several National and state polls including senate races. In 2012 Obama got less than 52% of the popular vote, but got almost 62% of the electoral vote. Anyone placing a very large wager to get 2:5 on Clinton or 2:1 on Trump might need more information than a 2 or 3 point swing in the current National polls.

IMO, I'd look at the individual state past voting and current polls. For instance Texas has 38 electoral votes and voted Republican by over 10 points in the last four elections. The current polls show Trump leading by 11 points so it's a safe bet Trump will win in Texas. On the other hand California has voted Democrat by double digits in the last four elections and Clinton is currently leading by 13 to 30 points so it's a safe bet Clinton will win in California.

When you add up all the safe bets (states consistently voting for either party in the past and current polls indicating no change) the electoral vote is Clinton 249 and Trump 163. To win Trump needs to win 107 more electoral votes from swing states and must win both PA and Florida.

They only poll likely voters.  In 2012 only about 53% of eligible voters turned out.  Why?  Because they had no one to vote for.  Don't believe the polls, this is going to be a landslide for Trump.  Wait and see.  LOL  BTW  take a look at his rallies.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 22, 2016

Actually you're not.  Keep kidding yourself.

Lol Hmmm yet well educated employed me is not posting online in the middle of the night since I have a real job. And when you see someone start to tell others they cannot post and he feels he determines the legitimacy of a poster, that says it all. We are watching a psychological breakdown online. Sometimes it is kinder to give such people the boot so they can move forward.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 22, 2016

You are a truly sad and pathetic individual with absolutely no self esteem. Your attempt at propping yourself by ridiculing others based on your own life's experience is downright despicable.

Please seek professional help because you are in dire need of it.

I have a feeling his days in LP may be numbered. He cannot stand the thought I have more degrees that he will ever have. He cannot tolerate a woman standing up to him. Yet I am gainfully employed and he is not.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 21, 2016

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/19/fact-check-devastates-trump-ad-averages-1-lie-4-seconds.html

One lie every 4 seconds in his first ad, clearly an honest man.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/4834/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien

101 greatest lies. Not 1 lie, not 101 lies, the 101 greatest.

Very big difference compared to Hilda where she lies to cover up intentional criminal acts.   Trumps exaggerates many of the

things he talks about but that's politics.  Doing this drives things home for some people because they get the message that he

is aware of the problems people see.  Combining Unemployment with under-employment gives us a much better understanding.

I know several people with advanced degrees working for less than $20.00 a hour.   I hear talk about  how Trump university

was a rip-off.   For years Obama made it a point to go back to school and get a degree, well many took him up on the offer only

to find there were no jobs.   Now they are jobless or under-employed paying off student debt while working at a job that pays

peanuts.  Maybe they should file a civil law suite against Obama.  I know many who would sell back their degrees to pay off the

debt they incurred going back to school.   Ignore all the bull*hit and look at what is really going on. 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I find most people's talking points on Trump, trivial. 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 21, 2016

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/24/bill-maher-obama-hes-drop-dead-atheist/

If he was a radical islamist, he would join the party of crazy religious theocrats, not the opposing party. I will never understand how the right wing isn't begging to take in all the syrisan"refugees". They share the Reps views on women, gays, religion etc.

You should watch "Hillary's America"  before you dump on the republican party.

I find if one ignores the sensationalism and takes in the facts it's very much dead

on.

RL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 22, 2016

They only poll likely voters.  In 2012 only about 53% of eligible voters turned out.  Why?  Because they had no one to vote for.  Don't believe the polls, this is going to be a landslide for Trump.  Wait and see.  LOL  BTW  take a look at his rallies.

"Don't believe the polls, this is going to be a landslide for Trump."

Naw, I'll watch the polls while you're getting all your excuses ready.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 22, 2016

You should watch "Hillary's America"  before you dump on the republican party.

I find if one ignores the sensationalism and takes in the facts it's very much dead

on.

RL

A convicted felon is not someone you should listen to.

"D’Souza rewrites history, staging a series of still more hokey recreations (complete with some of the worst wig work in the history of the arts) and smothering them with his unctuous narration. His central thesis is that the Democrats were on the wrong side of the Civil War, and because that only happened some 150 years ago, obviously nothing has changed since. D’Souza is compelled by the fact that Republicans were once the party of equal rights, and completely uninterested in the fact that they aren’t anymore.

He depicts Andrew Jackson lashing a slave in the morning and sleeping with her at night (“What is it with Democratic Presidents and innocent young women?” he asks, subtly foreshadowing his fetishistic obsessions with Bill Clinton’s penis). He tells us that “No Republicans owned slaves.” Zero. He paints Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, as the mother of American eugenics because she once spoke at a KKK event (in a desperate bid to get them to stop procreating). He recounts how “The Birth of a Nation” was the first movie ever screened at the White House, and hammers that non-point home by showing one of Griffith’s Klansmen burst out of the screen and onto the White House lawn, to the great delight of Woodrow Wilson."

http://www.indiewire.com/2016/07/hillarys-america-review-dinesh-dsouza-documentary-1201707590/

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 23, 2016

A convicted felon is not someone you should listen to.

"D’Souza rewrites history, staging a series of still more hokey recreations (complete with some of the worst wig work in the history of the arts) and smothering them with his unctuous narration. His central thesis is that the Democrats were on the wrong side of the Civil War, and because that only happened some 150 years ago, obviously nothing has changed since. D’Souza is compelled by the fact that Republicans were once the party of equal rights, and completely uninterested in the fact that they aren’t anymore.

He depicts Andrew Jackson lashing a slave in the morning and sleeping with her at night (“What is it with Democratic Presidents and innocent young women?” he asks, subtly foreshadowing his fetishistic obsessions with Bill Clinton’s penis). He tells us that “No Republicans owned slaves.” Zero. He paints Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, as the mother of American eugenics because she once spoke at a KKK event (in a desperate bid to get them to stop procreating). He recounts how “The Birth of a Nation” was the first movie ever screened at the White House, and hammers that non-point home by showing one of Griffith’s Klansmen burst out of the screen and onto the White House lawn, to the great delight of Woodrow Wilson."

http://www.indiewire.com/2016/07/hillarys-america-review-dinesh-dsouza-documentary-1201707590/

He contributed money to a political candidate... What a crime.  He made a movie critical of obama, so obama's justice department went after him.  You want to talk about crimes?  How about the obama IRS targeting conservative groups?  Or how about Hillary deleting 33,000 emails after receiving an FBI subpoena to produce all her emails?  LOL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 22, 2016

I think its funny how democrats/liberals pull the "uneducated" card.  If you're so "educated" how can you support Hillary as President?  Her policies will drive this country into the gutter.  She wants to open the floodgates to middle-east refugees and wants to legalize millions of illegals currently here which will drive millions more to our southern border.  Have you ever heard of cloward-piven?  You know, the strategy of destroying the American economy through drastically increasing welfare roles.  I'm sure you have.

Nope "ridiculing others" is when you offer your uneducated opinions on how jackpot winners should collect and spend their winnings. Actually it's more like you are pretending to ridicule jackpot winnings; how many W-2Gs did you get the last ten years?

"I think its funny how democrats/liberals pull the "uneducated" card."

Bet lots of people noticed your lack of reading comprehension. If you never won a major jackpot you have zero experience spending the winning and unless you won a $25,000 jackpot you never experienced taxes being deducted from the winnings.

You posted in the Cynthia Stafford thread and there is lots of criticism of how Stafford spent her winnings. Can you say for a fact it was "educated" criticism?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 22, 2016

I find most people's talking points on Trump, trivial. 

RL

"He's not a war hero, he's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured."

And apparently the VFW didn't think Trump's remarks about John McCain and a Gold Star family "trivial".

Election year or not, the VFW will not tolerate anyone berating a Gold Star family member for exercising his or her right of speech or expression,”

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 22, 2016

They only poll likely voters.  In 2012 only about 53% of eligible voters turned out.  Why?  Because they had no one to vote for.  Don't believe the polls, this is going to be a landslide for Trump.  Wait and see.  LOL  BTW  take a look at his rallies.

"They only poll likely voters."

Does it really make any sense to poll ineligibles or that didn't vote in the last election and won't vote in the next?

"In 2012 only about 53% of eligible voters turned out. "

In 2008 it was 62.3% and 49% in 1996. What is your point?

"Because they had no one to vote for."

That's weird because every time I voted in a Presidential election, there were several candidates.

"Don't believe the polls, this is going to be a landslide for Trump.  Wait and see."

So the fact Ted Cruz won the Wisconsin Republican primary and Clinton is now leading by 15 points in "polls of likely voters" is an educated opinion?

"BTW  take a look at his rallies."

Are they bigger than Bernie's rallies or the monster size crowds McGovern got in 1972?

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 23, 2016

Nope "ridiculing others" is when you offer your uneducated opinions on how jackpot winners should collect and spend their winnings. Actually it's more like you are pretending to ridicule jackpot winnings; how many W-2Gs did you get the last ten years?

"I think its funny how democrats/liberals pull the "uneducated" card."

Bet lots of people noticed your lack of reading comprehension. If you never won a major jackpot you have zero experience spending the winning and unless you won a $25,000 jackpot you never experienced taxes being deducted from the winnings.

You posted in the Cynthia Stafford thread and there is lots of criticism of how Stafford spent her winnings. Can you say for a fact it was "educated" criticism?

You seem so smart if i ever WIN BIG i like to ask you for some advice on how to spend my Winning's.Smiley

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 23, 2016

Nope "ridiculing others" is when you offer your uneducated opinions on how jackpot winners should collect and spend their winnings. Actually it's more like you are pretending to ridicule jackpot winnings; how many W-2Gs did you get the last ten years?

"I think its funny how democrats/liberals pull the "uneducated" card."

Bet lots of people noticed your lack of reading comprehension. If you never won a major jackpot you have zero experience spending the winning and unless you won a $25,000 jackpot you never experienced taxes being deducted from the winnings.

You posted in the Cynthia Stafford thread and there is lots of criticism of how Stafford spent her winnings. Can you say for a fact it was "educated" criticism?

Hey Jethro... What is it about my posts you can't understand?  This is getting frustrating already... Its like talking to a rock.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 23, 2016

He contributed money to a political candidate... What a crime.  He made a movie critical of obama, so obama's justice department went after him.  You want to talk about crimes?  How about the obama IRS targeting conservative groups?  Or how about Hillary deleting 33,000 emails after receiving an FBI subpoena to produce all her emails?  LOL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 23, 2016

Hey Jethro... What is it about my posts you can't understand?  This is getting frustrating already... Its like talking to a rock.

"What is it about my posts you can't understand?"

For starters it appears you live in a Fantasy world where everything you post must be fact. But hey, if you want to bet your farm on Trump winning in November, it's no skin off my nose.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Aug 23, 2016

You seem so smart if i ever WIN BIG i like to ask you for some advice on how to spend my Winning's.Smiley

I didn't give him any advice on how to spend his winnings, but when a close friend of mine won over $12 million after taxes he invited me and 10 others to a seven day "every thing paid" for golf trip to Vegas. It was a really nice gesture and to my knowledge nobody asked for a handout.

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helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 24, 2016

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Green laugh

i had that real operation game i never could get the stuff out....Green laugh

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 24, 2016

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I like it! not quite the same version I am familiar with.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 24, 2016

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Thanks for the post Mike... Got that game for Christmas as a kid... Loved it!  But somehow it doesn't look the same.  LOL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 23, 2016

A convicted felon is not someone you should listen to.

"D’Souza rewrites history, staging a series of still more hokey recreations (complete with some of the worst wig work in the history of the arts) and smothering them with his unctuous narration. His central thesis is that the Democrats were on the wrong side of the Civil War, and because that only happened some 150 years ago, obviously nothing has changed since. D’Souza is compelled by the fact that Republicans were once the party of equal rights, and completely uninterested in the fact that they aren’t anymore.

He depicts Andrew Jackson lashing a slave in the morning and sleeping with her at night (“What is it with Democratic Presidents and innocent young women?” he asks, subtly foreshadowing his fetishistic obsessions with Bill Clinton’s penis). He tells us that “No Republicans owned slaves.” Zero. He paints Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, as the mother of American eugenics because she once spoke at a KKK event (in a desperate bid to get them to stop procreating). He recounts how “The Birth of a Nation” was the first movie ever screened at the White House, and hammers that non-point home by showing one of Griffith’s Klansmen burst out of the screen and onto the White House lawn, to the great delight of Woodrow Wilson."

http://www.indiewire.com/2016/07/hillarys-america-review-dinesh-dsouza-documentary-1201707590/

Ignore the hipe and look into the actual historical facts.  I don't really like the guy but I was glad to finally see

someone bring this out.  This is not new to me but I think it's not very well known by the general population. 

Those in power within the Democrat party have a agenda which I strongly disagree with.  We only need to look

at what is being said vs what has been done.   Obama care is a big deception, sure they claim that the poor now

have insurance but most deductibles are so high that most end up paying much more out of pocket.  Take from

one and give to another is not progress.  I watched a interview where two black guys, one for Trump and the other

was for Hilda.  The Hilda supporter talked about how many Black men and women had entered collage during the

Obama administration and then said "What is Trump going to do for us"

I wish I would have been there and replied "Create a job where those educations can be put to work." Under Hilda

they are most likely to be jobless and burdened down with student debt.  Sure it looks good when we see how many

are getting a good education while in fact many of them will be underemployed if they can't find a job.  This is how I see

the top of the Democrat party.  More debt and lower wages, Bernie understood this before he flipped but like a good

Dem, he put his party ahead of everything.  What was so evil somehow became acceptable.  I really feel for those he

took money from only to give them the shaft later. 

Like the words from Hank jr song. "And y'all was getting' screwed but you wasn't getting kissed"  Wake up, your party

only wants your vote and will then give you the boot when they no longer need you.  They will give you just enough to

keep you in their pocket, but if you read the fine print your really getting less and less.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FWJjf2bR3U

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC
bigbear29

So, every trump speech now, trump has to mention blacks and hispanic (what do you have to lose).  It's too late mr. trump, it's too late!  You are not going to get the black, hispanic and the white college degreed men and women votes.  Mexico is not going to builded a wall or add on to the 700 mile wall that we have today.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 25, 2016

So, every trump speech now, trump has to mention blacks and hispanic (what do you have to lose).  It's too late mr. trump, it's too late!  You are not going to get the black, hispanic and the white college degreed men and women votes.  Mexico is not going to builded a wall or add on to the 700 mile wall that we have today.

Where is "White College" located?  Never heard of that one.  LOL

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 25, 2016

Mr Lincoln

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmSUOiOvlZw

RL

Nice song. Guitar Drum

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 25, 2016

So, every trump speech now, trump has to mention blacks and hispanic (what do you have to lose).  It's too late mr. trump, it's too late!  You are not going to get the black, hispanic and the white college degreed men and women votes.  Mexico is not going to builded a wall or add on to the 700 mile wall that we have today.

Trump is starting to sound like a third party candidate that doesn't have clue what the job of POTUS really is. He just finished up a speech by saying he will "make America great again, greater than ever before". Sounds like Herbert Hoover's 1928 "chicken in every pot and a car in every garage" campaign slogan.

He also said "Clinton is losing badly", but didn't say a thing about the Republican Congressmen and Senators that are really "losing badly" in their elections.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Funny, the wife holds three degrees and between the 2 of us I think we have almost 20 years of

secondary education.  We are both voting trump.  As far as the overall black vote I can't say but

but I see a mismatch of races all cheering him on.  I suppose that you would prefer it if he made

promises to each racial group.

What's good for one will be just as good for others.  I am tired of all the crap about how Trump is

a racist and women hater when all one has to do is take a at his past record.  I myself don't pay

attention to the race of a person, it's when they open their mouth that I make my assessment.

If someone acts like a bimbo then, well if the shoe fits...   Two of my best friends are Mexican

American but I hate illegal immigration with a passion.   

RL

bigbear29

That is what trump did, he opened his mouth and started turning people off!  Yes, I look at the poles and all of them are showing that trump is losing.  That is why trump is NOW going after the black and hispanic votes.

bigbear29

In away trump is a third party candidate.  Washington Republicans don't like him, but some will vote for him.  Yes, you are right, trump has no idea what the job of president really is.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I like to think he is reaching out to those who the media has spent hundreds of millions to

build a wall between, the truth and lies.  Never in history has so much been spent to take

down a single person.  I doubt the US spent that amount of money taking down Bin laden.

Those in power will do anything to keep it that way.  Their money is going to fail them this

time. 

RL

bigbear29

I understand that we need change in Washington, but trump is the wrong person to make that change.  Look at the rainbow of colors in Hillary's audience vs. trump's audience.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Given the choices, I choose Trump.  He may work out, maybe not.  We can vote them in and we can

also vote them out.  We gave Obama a chance, two chances to be exact.  Hilda will continue doing

the same thing.  It's impossible to spend our way out of debt unless the return on investment is 

greater than the interest.  Trump will have a lot on his plate and it will take a act of God to put us

back on the right track. 

RL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 25, 2016

I understand that we need change in Washington, but trump is the wrong person to make that change.  Look at the rainbow of colors in Hillary's audience vs. trump's audience.

Hillary = Change in Washington?  LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And what does a rainbow of colors have to do with it?  You a racist?

bigbear29

My vote is with Hillary and I hope she surprises everyone when she gets into office.  I hope the republican party is not the party of no.  And trump needs to lose the hate/ hate crowd, it will destroy everything.

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 25, 2016

Given the choices, I choose Trump.  He may work out, maybe not.  We can vote them in and we can

also vote them out.  We gave Obama a chance, two chances to be exact.  Hilda will continue doing

the same thing.  It's impossible to spend our way out of debt unless the return on investment is 

greater than the interest.  Trump will have a lot on his plate and it will take a act of God to put us

back on the right track. 

RL

Notice how these current presidential candidates are NOT campaigning on "Balancing the Budget", like almost all of the presidential candidates in the past.  The issues in this Presidential Election have shifted to Immigration, Foreign Policy, Domestic Economy & Jobs, Health Care, etc., b/c in reality, it's practically Impossible to "Balance" a Trillion Dollar Deficit, so why speak about it ?? Balancing the Budget is just Political RhetoricIt means Nothing, b/c it will Never Happen.  Perhaps the New President can find some other ways to Boost the Domestic Economy, b/c cutting taxes and entitlement programs will NOT Balance a Trillion Dollar DeficitCutting Foreign Spending, and channeling that money back into the Domestic Economy might help some.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 25, 2016

My vote is with Hillary and I hope she surprises everyone when she gets into office.  I hope the republican party is not the party of no.  And trump needs to lose the hate/ hate crowd, it will destroy everything.

Hillary won't change.  The average American is nothing to her.

Hate crowd?  Not really.  You know what LBJ (the democrat President) said about black people regarding his "Great Society Programs"?  He said..."I'll have those ni**ers voting democrat for the next 100 years".  Want to see more about the party of hate?

http://clashdaily.com/2014/03/allen-west-lbj-ill-nggers-voting-democratic-next-200-years/

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Aug 25, 2016

Notice how these current presidential candidates are NOT campaigning on "Balancing the Budget", like almost all of the presidential candidates in the past.  The issues in this Presidential Election have shifted to Immigration, Foreign Policy, Domestic Economy & Jobs, Health Care, etc., b/c in reality, it's practically Impossible to "Balance" a Trillion Dollar Deficit, so why speak about it ?? Balancing the Budget is just Political RhetoricIt means Nothing, b/c it will Never Happen.  Perhaps the New President can find some other ways to Boost the Domestic Economy, b/c cutting taxes and entitlement programs will NOT Balance a Trillion Dollar DeficitCutting Foreign Spending, and channeling that money back into the Domestic Economy might help some.

Yea all the previous Presidential candidates talked about balancing the budget... So how did that turn out for us?  Talk is cheap.  How many in the past talked about reforming the tax code?  How did that turn out for us?  I'm tired of political talk every election cycle.  Trump is different.  I'm taking a chance on him.

bigbear29

How is trump different?  How is he going to do everything that he talks about?  Where is the money going to come from to do everything that he is talking about?

This is why some people want trump to release his taxes to see that he is different from the pass candidates.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Putting more people to work increases government income and shores up existing federal programs

like social security.  Good Jobs allow people to work their way out of debt and improve quality of life.

We need a certain amount of debt to keep the pump pumping but personal debt keeps rising while 

personal income continues to drop.   I personally reduced my total dept to less than $1,500 and I

only keep that so that I have some kind of payment history.   The funny thing is that my credit score

dropped into 700s because I don't have any debt.   I have seen an estimate that there are 95 million

people out of work in the US.  If these people had jobs all paying around 15% in taxes it would amount

to a hefty sum.  How will allowing millions of Mexicans to cross the border taking lower paying jobs

while not paying a cent in state and federal taxes help anything.   Balancing the national debt will take

care if it's self if Americans are allowed to prosper according to their abilities.   The current federal policies

are a burden on the people and if Hilda get elected it's not going to get better.     

RL

What goes around comes around

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

US debt clock, take a look

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

There is around $1.46 trillion in US currency in circulation today, try making a large cash withdraw from your

bank account and see what happens. 

RL

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

bigbear29,

I received this in an e-mail, this is who you want for President?

_________________________________________________________

A friend who works for the federal government sent me this. I'm keeping his/her name off the message for his/her protection.

Once a year I am required to take this Government course on Record Keeping. The statement below is on the last slide. Wonder just who this applies to???????

Anyone who willfully and unlawfully conceals, destroys, mutilates, removes, damages or alienates official records can be required to forfeit their office, and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States (18 U.S.C. 2071) and can be fined and/or imprisoned. (18 U.S.C. 641). 

A maximum penalty of $2,000 and/or 3 years in prison may be imposed for the unlawful destruction or removal of official records

_______________________________________________________

Here's 18 USC 2071 for you;

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071

bigbear29

Coin Toss, I have no problem with that, she has to be proven guilty first.  It is still between trump and Hillary and I pick Hillary.  When Obama got into office, trump was one of the kingpins with the birtha movement aganst Obama.  Which I and a lot of people found this to be very racist aganst Obama.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 26, 2016

Coin Toss, I have no problem with that, she has to be proven guilty first.  It is still between trump and Hillary and I pick Hillary.  When Obama got into office, trump was one of the kingpins with the birtha movement aganst Obama.  Which I and a lot of people found this to be very racist aganst Obama.

Actually the whole birther thing started with a Hillary Clinton volunteer named Linda Starr back in 2008 when Hillary was running against obama.  And the rumor took off after that.  Don't blame Trump.  LOL 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 26, 2016

Coin Toss, I have no problem with that, she has to be proven guilty first.  It is still between trump and Hillary and I pick Hillary.  When Obama got into office, trump was one of the kingpins with the birtha movement aganst Obama.  Which I and a lot of people found this to be very racist aganst Obama.

When Obama got into office, trump was one of the kingpins with the birtha movement aganst Obama. 

Hogwash.  You should know that the first questions about Obama's birth certificate originated from the Hillary Clinton camp in 2008, quite a long time before Obama won the election.  An attorney named Phillip Berg, a Democrat, filed the first "birther" lawsuit. (Berg also filed a lawsuit claiming that G.W. Bush was behind the 9/11 attacks, so....)  While it's been claimed that Hillary wasn't responsible for the accusations, it's hard for me to accept she didn't know what was going on with her campaign staff especially in regards to something that would have given her failing bid for the Oval Office a sorely needed boost.  At the time many media outlets reported that some of her staff went overseas to research the claims of Obama having been born in Kenya.  If they did, I'm pretty sure they didn't do that on their own dime.

I think many of the questions about the birth certificate have been answered, but I also think there are others that have never been addressed satisfactorily.  No need to get into what I think, though, because it's a little late in the game to be arguing them.  IMO, there's one false statement on the Presidents birth certificate and that's who was his actual father;  I personally think it wasn't Obama Sr. but rather Frank Marshall Davis.  The resemblance is undeniably there, both in looks and Marxist philosophy.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Oops, G.B.  I would've beaten you to the punch but I was trying to condense one of my usual lengthy rebuttals as so to not make the reader's eyes glaze over.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 26, 2016

Oops, G.B.  I would've beaten you to the punch but I was trying to condense one of my usual lengthy rebuttals as so to not make the reader's eyes glaze over.

LOL Mike... We'll never convince bigbear.  He's a democrat drone.

bigbear29

I could care less who started it.  Trump was the one who stated that he sent agents to Hawaii to find out the true, trump lied.  But he had to keep it going, trump is just a total A-hole.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 26, 2016

LOL Mike... We'll never convince bigbear.  He's a democrat drone.

Yep, the worst kind of voter, a partisan hack.  I have zero love for the Republicans, and sometimes I vote Libertarian if a Republican is running unopposed for a state office,  voted for the Libertarian presidential candidate Marrou in '92, and have voted for Democrat candidates for county and city offices before, but they were old-school Dems from when that party was more conservative than are many of today's Republicans.

That said, I won't vote for a Democrat for national or state office and if the Libertarian candidate doesn't suit me, I vote Republican, the more ethical choice. (and sometimes leave ALL the boxes un-ticked)  Why more ethical?  Because if a Republican has even a whiff of scandal about them, the party or voters kick them out.  Democrats not only choose crooks for office, they re-elect them time and time again.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 26, 2016

I could care less who started it.  Trump was the one who stated that he sent agents to Hawaii to find out the true, trump lied.  But he had to keep it going, trump is just a total A-hole.

I could care less who started it.

Why, you deflecting P.O.S., you're the one who brought up the (wrong) origin of the birther movement.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 26, 2016

I could care less who started it.

Why, you deflecting P.O.S., you're the one who brought up the (wrong) origin of the birther movement.

See... I told you.  He's a drone.  Doesn't matter to him Hillary is corrupt and a complete failure as SOS.  He'll still vote for her.  LOL

bigbear29

I stated that trump was one of the kingpins with the birther movement!  It's no way in hell that I would vote for that idiot trump.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 26, 2016

See... I told you.  He's a drone.  Doesn't matter to him Hillary is corrupt and a complete failure as SOS.  He'll still vote for her.  LOL

Yep, and he also said this:  Which I and a lot of people found this to be very racist aganst Obama.

Since it came from the Hillary '08 campaign and most likely instigated by Clinton herself, I guess that would mean Hillary supporters are racists, right?

bigbear29

No, trump is a total racist!  Trump is nothing but a lot talk.

Release your taxes you idiot!

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 26, 2016

I stated that trump was one of the kingpins with the birther movement!  It's no way in hell that I would vote for that idiot trump.

No, not correct and I'm certain you don't have a clue as to what a "kingpin" is, either mechanically or referring to the boss of a criminal organization.  Mechanically speaking, Trump wouldn't fit the definition and certainly not in a criminal sense.  No, Hillary would fit the latter definition, to a "T". 

Scandal has followed closely on her heels since first arrriving in Arkansas.  She's had nothing pinned on her - yet - because she's slippier than snails in a barrel of snot.   She'll get what's coming to her one of these days, hopefully sooner than later.

Hillary For Prison 2016!

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 26, 2016

No, trump is a total racist!  Trump is nothing but a lot talk.

Release your taxes you idiot!

Release your medical records, Hillary!  I bet you have a tumor in your head larger than the stain on Monica's dress!

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 26, 2016

Release your medical records, Hillary!  I bet you have a tumor in your head larger than the stain on Monica's dress!

Omg lol.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 26, 2016

bigbear29,

I received this in an e-mail, this is who you want for President?

_________________________________________________________

A friend who works for the federal government sent me this. I'm keeping his/her name off the message for his/her protection.

Once a year I am required to take this Government course on Record Keeping. The statement below is on the last slide. Wonder just who this applies to???????

Anyone who willfully and unlawfully conceals, destroys, mutilates, removes, damages or alienates official records can be required to forfeit their office, and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States (18 U.S.C. 2071) and can be fined and/or imprisoned. (18 U.S.C. 641). 

A maximum penalty of $2,000 and/or 3 years in prison may be imposed for the unlawful destruction or removal of official records

_______________________________________________________

Here's 18 USC 2071 for you;

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071

What did the FBI conclude again? There is plenty of dirt in Hillary's closet, you can afford to let one get buried where it belongs.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 26, 2016

Coin Toss, I have no problem with that, she has to be proven guilty first.  It is still between trump and Hillary and I pick Hillary.  When Obama got into office, trump was one of the kingpins with the birtha movement aganst Obama.  Which I and a lot of people found this to be very racist aganst Obama.

False Dichotomy. There are more than two candidates on the ballot, some states could have half a dozen or more.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 26, 2016

Yep, the worst kind of voter, a partisan hack.  I have zero love for the Republicans, and sometimes I vote Libertarian if a Republican is running unopposed for a state office,  voted for the Libertarian presidential candidate Marrou in '92, and have voted for Democrat candidates for county and city offices before, but they were old-school Dems from when that party was more conservative than are many of today's Republicans.

That said, I won't vote for a Democrat for national or state office and if the Libertarian candidate doesn't suit me, I vote Republican, the more ethical choice. (and sometimes leave ALL the boxes un-ticked)  Why more ethical?  Because if a Republican has even a whiff of scandal about them, the party or voters kick them out.  Democrats not only choose crooks for office, they re-elect them time and time again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/06/02/this-astonishing-chart-shows-how-republicans-are-an-endangered-species/

http://www.salon.com/2015/01/24/youve_got_lyndon_johnson_all_wrong_the_real_story_of_how_a_conservative_congress_passed_the_great_society/

"Though many liberals had long doubted that Johnson was anything but a southern racist conservative who sometimes pretended to be one of them, he was, when he became president of the United States, truly determined to expand the role of the federal government in domestic life far beyond what his hero Franklin Roosevelt had accomplished. Johnson had started in politics as a New Deal liberal, and over the years he had grown ever more determined to deal with issues FDR had ignored and on which Johnson himself had been ambivalent at best during his own political career, most notably civil rights and health care. He wanted to use the presidency to build legislative majorities behind the ideas that liberals had been discussing and deliberating—but not enacting into law—for more than a decade."

Green laughThe Democrats (even Southern D's) were never anywhere close to anything even resembling the modern Republicans in congress.

One of the few great things about the modern Republican party, their love of primary fights. Democrats (the rich and powerful elites of the party especially) hate to primary the center-right conservatives like Obama and Hillary who keep pushing right wing ideas while the Reps are happy to lose any race in the name of ideological purity. The Democratic party DESPERATELY needs to adopt the love of primary fights.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 26, 2016

Release your medical records, Hillary!  I bet you have a tumor in your head larger than the stain on Monica's dress!

ROTFLMAO, Monica for President, she finishes the job!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 26, 2016

No, trump is a total racist!  Trump is nothing but a lot talk.

Release your taxes you idiot!

Think about this bigbear, Hillary is a woman who let her husband repeatedly cheat on her, he humiliated her, hurt her, broke her trust, most likely at one time or another may have had a STD or roaming freckle scare.

If she let him do that to her, what will she let the rest of the world do to us?

Do you really think she's in her right mind? If your wife cheats on you, do you continue to let her shame you? , or do you give some walking papers?

bigbear29

Release your taxes trump and stop lying about bringing jobs back to the United States!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 26, 2016

Release your taxes trump and stop lying about bringing jobs back to the United States!

Hildabeast has to release hers also, She hasn't done that, only complained about Trump....she's a hypocrite !

Don't you think she should release hers?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 26, 2016

Hildabeast has to release hers also, She hasn't done that, only complained about Trump....she's a hypocrite !

Don't you think she should release hers?

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/hillary-clinton-releases-eight-years-of-tax-returns-120882

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 26, 2016

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/hillary-clinton-releases-eight-years-of-tax-returns-120882

Not trusting that source, to many foundation , hm...lies

By the way, what are you still doing up, finish your drink of water and scamper back to bed.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 26, 2016

Not trusting that source, to many foundation , hm...lies

By the way, what are you still doing up, finish your drink of water and scamper back to bed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/13/us/politics/hillary-clinton-tim-kaine-taxes.html?_r=0

Even the Weekly Standard admits she released them 

"It's true that—after some shaming—she now has nearly 40 years of tax returns publicly available."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/hillarys-hypocrisy-over-trumps-tax-returns/article/2002444

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Here's how the Democrats operate. 

There was the Obama birther issue, so at the beginning of the Republican debates they question Cruz' citizenship.

Bill Clinton was the country's first Draft-Dodger-In-Chief and Hillary questions Trump not having served. 

Etc...ad nauseam.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 26, 2016

Think about this bigbear, Hillary is a woman who let her husband repeatedly cheat on her, he humiliated her, hurt her, broke her trust, most likely at one time or another may have had a STD or roaming freckle scare.

If she let him do that to her, what will she let the rest of the world do to us?

Do you really think she's in her right mind? If your wife cheats on you, do you continue to let her shame you? , or do you give some walking papers?

She and Billy boy had an agreement. He would be president first, then her. She sold her soul for this job. It was a marriage of convenience anyway. Did you read how she humiliated Vince Foster the day before he killed himself?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 27, 2016

She and Billy boy had an agreement. He would be president first, then her. She sold her soul for this job. It was a marriage of convenience anyway. Did you read how she humiliated Vince Foster the day before he killed himself?

I'm still amazed that all those mysterious deaths in Bill and Hill's wake have been covered up.

But then, they have mainstream media in their hip pockets.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I just seen a add where the KKK supports many of Trump's ideas.  The funny thing is is that Trump

was a democrat for a long time.  The KKK was started by the democratic party.  I personally think

Trump took a good look at his party and woke up.  The reason that many of the republican higher

ups don't support Trump is because he looks too much like a Democrat.   All the negative adds in

Hillary's arsenal are inside stuff.  Shift the blame to distance herself from the stuff she does not want

known.  Hillary is very tricky and has become a master of deception.  While writing  this I just seen

another add where a top KKK leader now supports Hilda.   We have a ex-demo running against a

inside demo.  No wonder the election is so nasty. 

Bill and Hilda should be in prison but are running for the top position in the US.  Trump is not perfect

but given a choice it should be a no-brainer.

RL

bigbear29

Trump, please release your taxes!  What kind of business man are you, release your taxes.  What are you hiding?  Release your taxes!  How much debt do you have, $300 million or $600 million?  Show your taxes!  What kind of factory jobs are you going to bring back when a lot of factories are automated or going automated.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 26, 2016

Coin Toss, I have no problem with that, she has to be proven guilty first.  It is still between trump and Hillary and I pick Hillary.  When Obama got into office, trump was one of the kingpins with the birtha movement aganst Obama.  Which I and a lot of people found this to be very racist aganst Obama.

Obama's birth certificate has undergone forensic analysis and has been proved to be a forgery, this is a fact.

Hawaii Health Director, Loretta Ruddy was the only one of the 9 people who died in the plane crash.  Maybe

this was just a coincidence but at the very least it seems questionable.   Look at the name his mother first 

tried to use, why did she change it?

RL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

RL- IMO Trump was a "democrat" because he had to be.  Don't think a businessman can succeed in NYC without seeming to be one.  Early in his campaign he praised the Drudge Report numerous times.  Democrats don't do that.

bigbear29

Total BS!  I see why you are voting for trump.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 27, 2016

Trump, please release your taxes!  What kind of business man are you, release your taxes.  What are you hiding?  Release your taxes!  How much debt do you have, $300 million or $600 million?  Show your taxes!  What kind of factory jobs are you going to bring back when a lot of factories are automated or going automated.

http://crappypictures.com/images/2012/08/broken-record1.gif

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 27, 2016

http://crappypictures.com/images/2012/08/broken-record1.gif

He's trolling

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 27, 2016

Trump, please release your taxes!  What kind of business man are you, release your taxes.  What are you hiding?  Release your taxes!  How much debt do you have, $300 million or $600 million?  Show your taxes!  What kind of factory jobs are you going to bring back when a lot of factories are automated or going automated.

Do you have any idea how much support and maintenance these automated systems require?

The automated systems produce tons of jobs and most are high tech. Automated systems in

general produce higher quality items at a lower cost.   I remember the old auto manufacturing 

process where cars were worn out after 60K miles.  Now it's not uncommon for a engine to still

be running strong at 300,000 miles.  We have lost so many jobs to other countries that offer

close to slave labor.  This hurts everyone here in the US as there is less money being earned to

be spread around.  Many roads and bridges have fallen into disrepair due to lack of funds to fix

them.  The thing that I think Trump would hate to expose is not the amount of debt but the tax

he paid.   Lets say I am one billion in debt but with that debt I earn enough to make the payments

plus maybe 15%.  15% of one billion is 150 million in profit per year.  Some years it could dip to a

few percent and some years maybe increase.  The amount of debt does not matter if it's making

money.  Trump has thousands of employees earning millions of dollars all paying taxes.  How is this

a bad thing?  If we took all the money away from the rich and gave it to the poor, I would say that

it would not take very long before they got it back.  I think without the rich taking big gambles and

creating jobs that you would starve to death.   Go ahead and hate them if you want, I respect them.

On the other hand look at the Walton's and Wal-Mart, they create a lot of low paying jobs while buying

everything from China.  They are super rich, pay slave wages, discriminate against women etc.... and

they are big Hilda supporters.   Wake up.

RL

destinycreation

I can't remember if I read about this on LP, in someone's Blog, or somewhere else on the Internet. These 3 books about Hillary and Bill are available on Amazon, or through Inter-Library Loan.

By Victor ThornA 3 Volume Trilogy Biography on the Clintons:

1) Hillary and Bill: The Sex Volume [2008]

2) Hillary and Bill: The Drugs Volume [2008]

3) Hillary and Bill: The Murder Volume [2008]

 

also

4) Crowning Clinton: Why Hillary Shouldn't be in the White House [Feb 2016]

 

also, just recently [August 2016] ... Google this on the Internet:

 

"Clinton Researcher Victor Thorn Reportedly Found Dead"  They're calling it another suicide, on August 1, 2016.  He was 54.  He died on his Birthday, supposedly by a "self-inflicted gun shot wound" to the head.

 

What Coroner is the Clinton Foundation paying off, to officially rule everything a suicide ???

bigbear29

You are still full of crap!  Automated factories takes less workers than non-automated factories!  You are so FOS!  Most low tech workers are replaced with less Hi-tech workers.  Most unemployed workers are not Hi-tech workers.  And this is for your next post, you are so FOS!

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 27, 2016

Obama's birth certificate has undergone forensic analysis and has been proved to be a forgery, this is a fact.

Hawaii Health Director, Loretta Ruddy was the only one of the 9 people who died in the plane crash.  Maybe

this was just a coincidence but at the very least it seems questionable.   Look at the name his mother first 

tried to use, why did she change it?

RL

Oh yes, Obama's Hawaii residing white mom totally knew her half black son would become president in 47 years so she went over to Kenya to give birth and name him Barack Hussain Obama and then send the news to Hawaii by telegram Green laugh.

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Aug 27, 2016

I can't remember if I read about this on LP, in someone's Blog, or somewhere else on the Internet. These 3 books about Hillary and Bill are available on Amazon, or through Inter-Library Loan.

By Victor ThornA 3 Volume Trilogy Biography on the Clintons:

1) Hillary and Bill: The Sex Volume [2008]

2) Hillary and Bill: The Drugs Volume [2008]

3) Hillary and Bill: The Murder Volume [2008]

 

also

4) Crowning Clinton: Why Hillary Shouldn't be in the White House [Feb 2016]

 

also, just recently [August 2016] ... Google this on the Internet:

 

"Clinton Researcher Victor Thorn Reportedly Found Dead"  They're calling it another suicide, on August 1, 2016.  He was 54.  He died on his Birthday, supposedly by a "self-inflicted gun shot wound" to the head.

 

What Coroner is the Clinton Foundation paying off, to officially rule everything a suicide ???

I am NOT a Psychologist, but I want to make a comment about the psychology of suicide.

If Victor Thorn's death is actually a Homicide, then it is probably just coincidental that the murder occurred on his 54th Birthday.

However, if his death actually was a suicide, then he probably chose the date of his 54th Birthday to commit suicide, probably for sentimental reasons [even though he may have had a lot of enemies, and was probably living under a lot of stress as a writer of controversial topics, and probably also received death threats].  He decided to EXIT LIFE on HIS OWN TERMS, before someone else took him out of life on their terms !!!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 27, 2016

Oh yes, Obama's Hawaii residing white mom totally knew her half black son would become president in 47 years so she went over to Kenya to give birth and name him Barack Hussain Obama and then send the news to Hawaii by telegram Green laugh.

He was born Barry Dunham, where he was born is really a mystery, not Hawaii and not Kenya, but possibly Canada. adaopted by sotero, then changed his name in college to Barack Obama.

He wasn't born in Hawaii, mama left him there with grandparents, grandma got him his SS card, it is that of  a deceased man in Connecticut .

Frank Marshall may be his real father.

He attended college and got money  as a exchange student,  if he was born here, it's fraud, if he was born outside the US, he has no business being President.

veganlife125's avatarveganlife125

This race(and all politics) is about masculinity over femininity.  This feminism affects the world majority of all genders, races, sexual orientations, republicans, democrats, conservatives and liberals. 

The default setting for humanity is feminism. Feminism gives you the envy, cultural relativism and egalitarianism that leads to all the stagnation and inferiority.  Its hard to be masculine because it takes courage and discipline.  Feminism is about present orientation.  Masculinity is about future orientation.

This is not a man vs. woman issue.  At least as many men are feminized as women maybe more.  Only after the majority lose much of their money, jobs, safety, retirement, and liberty do they vote masculinity to fix things.  They don't do this because they want to.  They do it because they have to.  Its the only way to get their lifestyles back.

After the feminist debacle of the 60s - 70s the world voted Reagan and Thatcher.  They knew these masculine candidates would straighten out alot of problems and they did.  Humanity got their pride, money, and dignity back.  How did they respond?  Did they continue to vote masculine to keep it?  Of course not!  They went right back to the debachery of feminism.  They elected feminist candidates such as george bush, john major, bill clinton, gerhard schroder, bush jr., tony blair, gordon brown, barack obama, angela mercel, and david cameron.  The world is turning to trump, farage, putin ect. for a healthy dose of 200 milligrams a week of testosterone cypionate!Big Grin 

The status quo are pulling the race card because its all they got.  They are probably hoping to inspire enough hostility in someone to shoot at Trump because otherwise he is going to win in a landslide they fear.  He is leading and will lead bigger after the debates.Patriot 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

veganlife125... That's an interesting way of looking at the political world.  One things for sure, most people admire strong leaders and our enemies fear them.  That's a good thing.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 27, 2016

You are still full of crap!  Automated factories takes less workers than non-automated factories!  You are so FOS!  Most low tech workers are replaced with less Hi-tech workers.  Most unemployed workers are not Hi-tech workers.  And this is for your next post, you are so FOS!

Yea, you're an engineer alright.  LOL!

bigbear29

Still waiting trump!  Please release your taxes!  What kind of business man are you, release your taxes.  What are you hiding?  Release your taxes!  How much debt do you have, $300 million or $600 million?  Show your taxes!  What kind of factory jobs are you going to bring back when a lot of factories are automated or going automated.  SHOW YOUR TAXES!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 27, 2016

Still waiting trump!  Please release your taxes!  What kind of business man are you, release your taxes.  What are you hiding?  Release your taxes!  How much debt do you have, $300 million or $600 million?  Show your taxes!  What kind of factory jobs are you going to bring back when a lot of factories are automated or going automated.  SHOW YOUR TAXES!

Why won't the administration release Hillary's schedule as SOS until after the election?  Hmmmm?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Hillary Clinton took money for favors.  Pay for play.  Who did you meet while SOS Hillary?  Release the full schedule now.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

More than half of the people outside government who met with Hillary gave money to the Clinton Foundation.  Millions and millions of dollars.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 27, 2016

Here's how the Democrats operate. 

There was the Obama birther issue, so at the beginning of the Republican debates they question Cruz' citizenship.

Bill Clinton was the country's first Draft-Dodger-In-Chief and Hillary questions Trump not having served. 

Etc...ad nauseam.

LOL ROFL LOL @ "birther issue"!

I see all the clowns are out this weekend randomly throwing whatever they can get their paws on against a wall and hoping some of it sticks. Please don't ask this genius why Canadian born Ted Cruz is eligible to be president; it might short circuit their brain.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 27, 2016

Obama's birth certificate has undergone forensic analysis and has been proved to be a forgery, this is a fact.

Hawaii Health Director, Loretta Ruddy was the only one of the 9 people who died in the plane crash.  Maybe

this was just a coincidence but at the very least it seems questionable.   Look at the name his mother first 

tried to use, why did she change it?

RL

Seriously, do your really believe LP readers are stupid enough to believe or care about this?

First of all it's Fuddy not "Ruddy" and because Ann Dunham was born in the U.S., her children, regardless where you think they were born are Natural born citizens. And if you don't believe me, ask Ted Cruz.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Bill Clinton in immigration 1995:

Bubba agrees with Trump
Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 27, 2016

LOL ROFL LOL @ "birther issue"!

I see all the clowns are out this weekend randomly throwing whatever they can get their paws on against a wall and hoping some of it sticks. Please don't ask this genius why Canadian born Ted Cruz is eligible to be president; it might short circuit their brain.

Stack, August 22 this thread, quoting rules,

"No personal attacks.

Criticize ideas, not people.  Flaming will not be tolerated.  This includes any material which is vulgar, defamatory, inaccurate, harassing, hateful, threatening, invading of others' privacy, sexually-oriented, or violates any laws."

Stack, above,

"I see all the clowns are out this weekend randomly throwing whatever they can get their paws on against a wall and hoping some of it sticks. "

_______________________________________________________________________

Stack you are one sad individual, a megalomaniac, and the biggest hypocrite on this board.

I guess in your dysfunctional thinking process telling people, "Maybe you can't afford $7.95 a month", etc...ad nauseam are not personal attacks.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 27, 2016

You are still full of crap!  Automated factories takes less workers than non-automated factories!  You are so FOS!  Most low tech workers are replaced with less Hi-tech workers.  Most unemployed workers are not Hi-tech workers.  And this is for your next post, you are so FOS!

I am way past the point of thinking your a idiot, I am sure now.  I don't consider using a backhoe to replace the shovel

a job killer.  I also don't think that workers would be able to place billions of transistors on a integrated circuit board by

hand.   Any process that can be automated should be automated.  I don't think that you understand much of anything. 

Production is the key to creating jobs.  Lets see, a new company needs to ship it's product so this is good news for the

shipping companies. The companies that supply the shipping material might also need more employees to keep up with

demand. The new company also needs raw material which has to come from some where.  The supply companies need

to hire additional workers our maybe the demand is great enough that another supply company would be needed.

This would also create more new jobs which would increase the need for product.  Working people need to eat and if they

are not limited to food stamps they can buy products that food stamps can't.  New workers also need to drive back and

forth to work, buy new cloths, shoes etc.. and the list goes on and on.  Your small minded outlook betrays your intent.

Creating jobs means increasing product which trickles down to sometimes hundreds of other existing companies.  When

more people are working they have money to buy more products which increases demand which increases the need  for

even more product.  Hilda like Obama will continue to convert the US into a welfare state where capitalism can't survive.

This will drop the living standard to 3rd world standards.   Obama care is a prime example, steal from those who have 

good jobs to provide for the lazy.  I don't mind taking care of those who can't work but I don't want to support the lazy

in the process.  The lazy are now getting medical care while the working class can't afford to get sick.  I am not sure of

what Trump can do but I am sure that if Hilda continues Obama's agenda that we will continue in a downward spiral.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Obama and the Clinton's are, and have milked the system.  Oh they talk big ideas but most are bull$hit and

they are the only ones making money, well they and their close associates.  Bill Gates introduced a new style

of crony capitalism and the common person has suffered ever since.  More and more crony capitalist have joined

the party and some even say Trump is just another one.   It may be so but I really think that he has come to a

moral crossroad where he feels he must give back.   Anyone can change, but so many are making it as hard as

they can for him to do so.  Maybe he deserves it but if it's a real conversion then it will endure all the attacks. 

Hilda is as crooked as a snake and this leaves me with only two possible conclusions.  #1, Supporters are blinded

by party loyalty or they are moral-less.  On second though it could be both.

 

Unable or unwilling to abide by a moral standard relating to the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction

between right and wrong.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 27, 2016

He was born Barry Dunham, where he was born is really a mystery, not Hawaii and not Kenya, but possibly Canada. adaopted by sotero, then changed his name in college to Barack Obama.

He wasn't born in Hawaii, mama left him there with grandparents, grandma got him his SS card, it is that of  a deceased man in Connecticut .

Frank Marshall may be his real father.

He attended college and got money  as a exchange student,  if he was born here, it's fraud, if he was born outside the US, he has no business being President.

sully16

The truth is out there.  I think all the negative adds are a result of what Trump will do if elected. 

I think they have good cause to worry.

I Agree!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

A few DNA samples should go a long way to settle the matter.  I bet it's not going to happen.

RL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 27, 2016

Stack, August 22 this thread, quoting rules,

"No personal attacks.

Criticize ideas, not people.  Flaming will not be tolerated.  This includes any material which is vulgar, defamatory, inaccurate, harassing, hateful, threatening, invading of others' privacy, sexually-oriented, or violates any laws."

Stack, above,

"I see all the clowns are out this weekend randomly throwing whatever they can get their paws on against a wall and hoping some of it sticks. "

_______________________________________________________________________

Stack you are one sad individual, a megalomaniac, and the biggest hypocrite on this board.

I guess in your dysfunctional thinking process telling people, "Maybe you can't afford $7.95 a month", etc...ad nauseam are not personal attacks.

Are you seriously saying you don't know what a clown is or are you just clowning around? 

I'm shocked you never went to a circus and heard the ringmaster say "ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, and children of all ages". Do you think circus clowns try to make people sad or are you suffering from coulrophobia perhaps?

"There was the Obama birther issue, so at the beginning of the Republican debates they question Cruz' citizenship"

This is pretty funny stuff and calling the person posting it a clown isn't even criticizing ideas, it's laughing along with them. Oh, and you're confused because it was Trump not "they" questioning if Cruz who was born in Canada is eligible to run for POTUS. Do you think Trump was serious or just clowning around when he suggested Ted's dad was involved in the Kennedy assassination?

"Hillary questions Trump not having served."

You're still confused because several top Republicans and veteran groups condemned Trump for saying John McCain is no war hero. The VFW condemned him a second time for attacking a Gold Star Family. Can you show us where Hillary questioned Trump's flat feet, when he said "I always wanted a Purple Heart", or are you still clowning around?

"Stack you are one sad individual"

That makes no sense unless you're trying to make us laugh at you.

"a megalomaniac,"
I called you a clown because you make me laugh  What power do you think I have or are you confusing me with Trump?
"the biggest hypocrite on this board. "
Do you even know the definition of "hypocrite"?
"Maybe you can't afford $7.95 a month", etc...ad nauseam are not personal attacks"
Do you think I'll be banned from the site for suggesting LP member purchase premium memberships?
There are several Online dictionaries but even that can help very poor reading comprehension.
Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 27, 2016

He was born Barry Dunham, where he was born is really a mystery, not Hawaii and not Kenya, but possibly Canada. adaopted by sotero, then changed his name in college to Barack Obama.

He wasn't born in Hawaii, mama left him there with grandparents, grandma got him his SS card, it is that of  a deceased man in Connecticut .

Frank Marshall may be his real father.

He attended college and got money  as a exchange student,  if he was born here, it's fraud, if he was born outside the US, he has no business being President.

ROFL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 27, 2016

I am way past the point of thinking your a idiot, I am sure now.  I don't consider using a backhoe to replace the shovel

a job killer.  I also don't think that workers would be able to place billions of transistors on a integrated circuit board by

hand.   Any process that can be automated should be automated.  I don't think that you understand much of anything. 

Production is the key to creating jobs.  Lets see, a new company needs to ship it's product so this is good news for the

shipping companies. The companies that supply the shipping material might also need more employees to keep up with

demand. The new company also needs raw material which has to come from some where.  The supply companies need

to hire additional workers our maybe the demand is great enough that another supply company would be needed.

This would also create more new jobs which would increase the need for product.  Working people need to eat and if they

are not limited to food stamps they can buy products that food stamps can't.  New workers also need to drive back and

forth to work, buy new cloths, shoes etc.. and the list goes on and on.  Your small minded outlook betrays your intent.

Creating jobs means increasing product which trickles down to sometimes hundreds of other existing companies.  When

more people are working they have money to buy more products which increases demand which increases the need  for

even more product.  Hilda like Obama will continue to convert the US into a welfare state where capitalism can't survive.

This will drop the living standard to 3rd world standards.   Obama care is a prime example, steal from those who have 

good jobs to provide for the lazy.  I don't mind taking care of those who can't work but I don't want to support the lazy

in the process.  The lazy are now getting medical care while the working class can't afford to get sick.  I am not sure of

what Trump can do but I am sure that if Hilda continues Obama's agenda that we will continue in a downward spiral.

RL

"I am way past the point of thinking your a idiot, I am sure now.  "

Hey Coin Toss, if you're reading this does it fit your definition of a personal attack?

Not that I believe it is; I'm just using your words to help CT with their reading comprehension problem.

"I don't consider using a backhoe to replace the shovel a job killer. "

Apparently it's true "you'll never get rich digging a ditch", but how do they dig a ditch when a backhoe breaks down?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Stack,

For a while now your raison d'etre seems to be highlighting lines from other people's posts and nit picking. 

You may think you're real slick pimping for premium memberships but believe me your approach sure doesn't sell any.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 27, 2016

Stack, August 22 this thread, quoting rules,

"No personal attacks.

Criticize ideas, not people.  Flaming will not be tolerated.  This includes any material which is vulgar, defamatory, inaccurate, harassing, hateful, threatening, invading of others' privacy, sexually-oriented, or violates any laws."

Stack, above,

"I see all the clowns are out this weekend randomly throwing whatever they can get their paws on against a wall and hoping some of it sticks. "

_______________________________________________________________________

Stack you are one sad individual, a megalomaniac, and the biggest hypocrite on this board.

I guess in your dysfunctional thinking process telling people, "Maybe you can't afford $7.95 a month", etc...ad nauseam are not personal attacks.

Lol. Coin Toss (best name in LP...and Haymaker), he is just jealous that I have a job and  am better educated. And I showed up his lack of legal sense. Just basic sexism. Secure males would not even care.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 28, 2016

"I am way past the point of thinking your a idiot, I am sure now.  "

Hey Coin Toss, if you're reading this does it fit your definition of a personal attack?

Not that I believe it is; I'm just using your words to help CT with their reading comprehension problem.

"I don't consider using a backhoe to replace the shovel a job killer. "

Apparently it's true "you'll never get rich digging a ditch", but how do they dig a ditch when a backhoe breaks down?

Stack47

"Apparently it's true "you'll never get rich digging a ditch", but how do they dig a ditch when a backhoe breaks down?"

Thanks for making my point, they call the repairman. 

RL

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 27, 2016

sully16

The truth is out there.  I think all the negative adds are a result of what Trump will do if elected. 

I think they have good cause to worry.

I Agree!

I think he's going to find Barrry took a lot of money for education under the guise of being a foreign student.

That's fraud. I think he was most likely born here.

Elizabeth Warren took money for education under the guise of being Cherokee, another liar.

bigbear29

Have you ever been in a circuit board factory?  There is not a lot of people because everything is automated.  And I don't believe trump is going to bring factory jobs back.  trump is against raising wages, so how is he going to bring factory jobs back when wages in other countries are so low.  trump is FOS!

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 28, 2016

Lol. Coin Toss (best name in LP...and Haymaker), he is just jealous that I have a job and  am better educated. And I showed up his lack of legal sense. Just basic sexism. Secure males would not even care.

Artiist77,

Thanks. There used to be a member here named Rip Snorter. He had the best avatar ever for a while for a lottery board. It was Sisyphus.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 28, 2016

Artiist77,

Thanks. There used to be a member here named Rip Snorter. He had the best avatar ever for a while for a lottery board. It was Sisyphus.

I had to think about that one. Sisyphus rolling the ball...lottery ball?..up the hill time and time again. Wow! Very original and says a lot about lottery playing.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 28, 2016

I think he's going to find Barrry took a lot of money for education under the guise of being a foreign student.

That's fraud. I think he was most likely born here.

Elizabeth Warren took money for education under the guise of being Cherokee, another liar.

Huma's mother wrote a book and an article blaming the US for 9-11. Yet she does not realize the United States gave her the right to do this. If she had criticized her own country while living there, she would  be dead.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 28, 2016

Huma's mother wrote a book and an article blaming the US for 9-11. Yet she does not realize the United States gave her the right to do this. If she had criticized her own country while living there, she would  be dead.

Exactly.

LottoAce's avatarLottoAce

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Jul 26, 2016

Went to my class reunion a couple weeks ago, many of the people there I have not seen since the 70's.

The hot topic was not politics, but how the world has changed , and how our kids are growing up .

My son was 2 when Islamic Terrorists flew planes into the world trade center, this is his world to adapt to .

He will never know what was like going to an airport, concert or Hockey game without being searched and scrutinized.

He is living with technology we never dreamed was possible.

Back in our day, the big argument was who's cuter, David Gilmour or Roger Taylor, now everything is an argument.

This Country has gone insane with political correctness, if you disagree, you get a label and depending on the topic, you could be Racist, bigot, hater, homophobe etc.

In our day we watched Little house on the Prairie, the Waltons or a family themed comedy/music show.

Now the TV is filled with reality shows, people in constant conflict, or people living lives that are not even close to real.

Survival shows top the lists.

I guess it doesn't matter who is elected, I was taught to survive long before these shows popped up.

I not only know how to grow food, I hunt, fish and can find food in the forest.

For my son's sake, for the world he has to grow up in, I want a leader who is willing to say and do the things we need, to keep us just a little safer.

Some things you can't control, but we need a leader who can make it harder for those who mean to harm us.

Trump has my vote. US Flag

Amen....well said

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Aug 26, 2016

Release your medical records, Hillary!  I bet you have a tumor in your head larger than the stain on Monica's dress!

There are some reports that it could be Parkinson's.

 

But, yeah, she needs to disclose whatever the issue is. It looks serious enough to affect her ability to hold office.

bigbear29

I just don't understand how trump is going to save us.  He wants to bomb the hell out of the enemy when we are fighting a different type of war.  I think if we spread the wealth from the top down, things would be a lot different in the United States.

bigbear29

Trump release your taxes!  Your post is total BS!

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 28, 2016

Trump release your taxes!  Your post is total BS!

The broken record routine is getting very stale. Tax returns aren't going to change anyone's opinion.

 

And who was your second sentance directed at?

bigbear29

Bs was for your post!  If trumps taxes are not going to change any votes, than trump should release his taxes.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Aug 28, 2016

There are some reports that it could be Parkinson's.

 

But, yeah, she needs to disclose whatever the issue is. It looks serious enough to affect her ability to hold office.

I think it is heart or respiratory related.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 28, 2016

Bs was for your post!  If trumps taxes are not going to change any votes, than trump should release his taxes.

If Hillary really is experiencing seizures and memory lapses, that would affect her ability to do the job. Shouldn't she clear the air on what's wrong with her?

bigbear29

I thought she released her medical records.  I know that she released her tax returns.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Aug 28, 2016

If Hillary really is experiencing seizures and memory lapses, that would affect her ability to do the job. Shouldn't she clear the air on what's wrong with her?

Hillary, release your medical forms.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 28, 2016

I thought she released her medical records.  I know that she released her tax returns.

Over a year ago. At her age,  a lot can change in a year.

bigbear29

And that would be total BS,  Arizonadream.  By the way, trump is not getting the asian, black, hispanic and college educated women votes = total lose for trump.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 28, 2016

And that would be total BS,  Arizonadream.  By the way, trump is not getting the asian, black, hispanic and college educated women votes = total lose for trump.

Blahahahahaha, I know where he's getting lots of Native American votes, hahahaha.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Trump is getting this college educated plus degreed woman's vote. Bawaaaaahaaaahaaaaaaaa

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 28, 2016

Trump is getting this college educated plus degreed woman's vote. Bawaaaaahaaaahaaaaaaaa

Yes he is, I am a woman, have a degree, and I'm a minority, so much for his theory.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Aug 28, 2016

Over a year ago. At her age,  a lot can change in a year.

I was reading toe fungus can do a lot of damage, I bet she has toe fungus.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 28, 2016

And that would be total BS,  Arizonadream.  By the way, trump is not getting the asian, black, hispanic and college educated women votes = total lose for trump.

Best find a hidey hole.

bigbear29

From trump - 

By now, I expect Donald Trump, who wants to be our president, to voice whatever acerbic thought he has.

He has called Mexicans "rapists" and "anchor babies." 
He has used adjectives such as "bimbo" and "fat pig" to describe women.
So who could be surprised that he began attacking Elizabeth Warren, the Democratic senator from Massachusetts, by calling her "the Indian" and "Pocahontas."
Make no mistake -- these jabs were racist.
Last month, Warren, who says she is Native American but hasn't presented any substantial evidence to prove her claim, challenged Trump in a series of tweets, notably calling him a "bully" and "loser."
Whether or not Warren is, in fact, Native American is still subject of debate in and out of Indian country, but it is beside the point. We are talking about Native Americans once again being belittled in the mainstream, and this time by a leading presidential candidate.
At a time when we fight to be recognized as neighbors and contemporary professionals and not stereotypes, the last thing we need is to be fodder for a businessman with a documented history of attacking Native Americans.
bigbear29

Natives Take to Streets in ABQ: ‘Why We Don’t Support Trump’

5/26/16

Some Native American groups in New Mexico are making it clear that they will not support Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, citing the candidate’s bigotry and lack of experience in dealing with tribes.

 

Read more athttp://indiancountryto<snip>edianetwork.com/2016/05/26/natives-take-streets-abq-why-we-dont-support-trump-164594

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bigbear29

Houska: Trump Burns Native Americans Again

10/5/15

On Monday, GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump weighed in on the Washington team name. In an interview with theNew York Times,he gave his support for a dictionary-defined racial slur, and went on to say “I know Indians that are extremely proud of that name, they think it’s a positive.”

So Trump has an Indian friend and they think it’s okay. Gotcha.

Putting aside the anecdotal evidence of the friend that represents over five million Native Americans, Trump’s past interactions with Native Americans illustrate his understanding of the stereotypes that Native mascots perpetuate.

In 2000, he funded an advertising campaign that accused the St. Regis Mohawk Tribe of a long history of violent crimes and drug use. St. Regis was set to open a casino in New York’s Catskill region; the ad asked “Are these the new neighbors we want?” The tribe condemned it as a naked appeal to racism.

 

Read more athttp://indiancountryto<snip>edianetwork.com/2015/10/05/houska-trump-burns-native-americans-again-161972

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LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 28, 2016

Houska: Trump Burns Native Americans Again

10/5/15

On Monday, GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump weighed in on the Washington team name. In an interview with theNew York Times,he gave his support for a dictionary-defined racial slur, and went on to say “I know Indians that are extremely proud of that name, they think it’s a positive.”

So Trump has an Indian friend and they think it’s okay. Gotcha.

Putting aside the anecdotal evidence of the friend that represents over five million Native Americans, Trump’s past interactions with Native Americans illustrate his understanding of the stereotypes that Native mascots perpetuate.

In 2000, he funded an advertising campaign that accused the St. Regis Mohawk Tribe of a long history of violent crimes and drug use. St. Regis was set to open a casino in New York’s Catskill region; the ad asked “Are these the new neighbors we want?” The tribe condemned it as a naked appeal to racism.

 

Read more athttp://indiancountryto<snip>edianetwork.com/2015/10/05/houska-trump-burns-native-americans-again-161972

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We have a real problem in this country.  Normal hard working Americans call them "snowflakes".

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 28, 2016

I was reading toe fungus can do a lot of damage, I bet she has toe fungus.

Toe fungus?  More like crotch rot.  I bet she got drunk for the second time in her life (the first being the night Chelsea was conceived) and let Slick Willy have his way with her.  (Of course, he was probably snot-slingin' drunk himself, would HAVE to be) He probably gave her a social disease and since she has an allergy to penicillin, that's the reason her nose isn't growing from all the whoppers she tells...it's being eaten away by syphilis at the same time.  That probably explains her mental issues, seeing as how that form of VD also affects the brain.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

bigbear.... Prove to me Hillary cares about people of color.  In fact, prove to me obama cares about people of color.  What did either of them do for blacks, hispanics or any other racial minority.  I'm waiting.  Trump hired and is hiring many minorities in his construction jobs, many of which make more than you ever dreamed of.  LOL

bigbear29

Wow!  Made more than me, not.  There is already reports that trump under paid some of his minority employees or did not pay some of his contractors at all.  He claimed bankruptcy and walked away.  Release your taxes trump!

bigbear29

Call who snowflakes?  Are you talking about native american indians?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 28, 2016

From trump - 

By now, I expect Donald Trump, who wants to be our president, to voice whatever acerbic thought he has.

He has called Mexicans "rapists" and "anchor babies." 
He has used adjectives such as "bimbo" and "fat pig" to describe women.
So who could be surprised that he began attacking Elizabeth Warren, the Democratic senator from Massachusetts, by calling her "the Indian" and "Pocahontas."
Make no mistake -- these jabs were racist.
Last month, Warren, who says she is Native American but hasn't presented any substantial evidence to prove her claim, challenged Trump in a series of tweets, notably calling him a "bully" and "loser."
Whether or not Warren is, in fact, Native American is still subject of debate in and out of Indian country, but it is beside the point. We are talking about Native Americans once again being belittled in the mainstream, and this time by a leading presidential candidate.
At a time when we fight to be recognized as neighbors and contemporary professionals and not stereotypes, the last thing we need is to be fodder for a businessman with a documented history of attacking Native Americans.

Another copy and paste, cause this isn't you writing bigbear.

The Cherokee already denied her.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 28, 2016

Natives Take to Streets in ABQ: ‘Why We Don’t Support Trump’

5/26/16

Some Native American groups in New Mexico are making it clear that they will not support Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, citing the candidate’s bigotry and lack of experience in dealing with tribes.

 

Read more athttp://indiancountryto<snip>edianetwork.com/2016/05/26/natives-take-streets-abq-why-we-dont-support-trump-164594

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bigbear29

I wonder if Todd put the word snip in there, may-not, but I will look.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 28, 2016

Houska: Trump Burns Native Americans Again

10/5/15

On Monday, GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump weighed in on the Washington team name. In an interview with theNew York Times,he gave his support for a dictionary-defined racial slur, and went on to say “I know Indians that are extremely proud of that name, they think it’s a positive.”

So Trump has an Indian friend and they think it’s okay. Gotcha.

Putting aside the anecdotal evidence of the friend that represents over five million Native Americans, Trump’s past interactions with Native Americans illustrate his understanding of the stereotypes that Native mascots perpetuate.

In 2000, he funded an advertising campaign that accused the St. Regis Mohawk Tribe of a long history of violent crimes and drug use. St. Regis was set to open a casino in New York’s Catskill region; the ad asked “Are these the new neighbors we want?” The tribe condemned it as a naked appeal to racism.

 

Read more athttp://indiancountryto<snip>edianetwork.com/2015/10/05/houska-trump-burns-native-americans-again-161972

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Once again media bias, they only show the people who oppose it, which is not 5 million but a hand full of activists wanting attention and oh, money for speaking, writing and giving appearances.

Liberalism is running rampant, and the lobbyists who take advantage of poor undereducated people.

Lots of money out there for people to exploit Indians.

Sad, but nothing I can do about it.

bigbear29

I saw your article and they both have a problem.

bigbear29

Google: kim baca natives take to the streets

 

It should be the first article

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 28, 2016

I saw your article and they both have a problem.

My dad would tease us girls when we were putting on make-up, always asked if we were putting on war paint.

I have been called Squaw, Pocohontas, etc etc etc.... not once was I offended, or ever felt it was a racial remark.

it is what it is, now I have screwballs tippy toeing around me cause they are to afraid to say or ask anything.

PC RUN AMOK...NOT MUCH OFFENDS ME AND I AM NOT A VICTIM.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 28, 2016

Call who snowflakes?  Are you talking about native american indians?

Actually  I'm talking about you and people like you.  You're a coward.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

So any guesses about the next wave of hacked documents to be released in October?

bigbear29

Little boy you are such a liar, you were talking about native americans.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 28, 2016

Little boy you are such a liar, you were talking about native americans.

Actually I referred to you as a dirt bag.  No one else.  Care to respond?

destinycreation

The same "Clinton situation" is happening in Russia with Putin and his enemies >> Anti-Putin Journalist allegedly committed suicide.  But we know it's not really suicide in Russia >> In Russia, it's Murder by the KGB, or someone related to the Russian Government.

This news report was taken from MSN: [It happened in the Ukraine, which was formally part of Russia.]

"A well-known Russian journalist and critic of President Vladimir Putin has been found dead in his Kiev apartment with a gunshot wound to the head. [on his Birthday]

The body of Alexander Shchetinin, founder the Novy Region (New Region) press agency, was found at his flat after friends tried to visit him on his birthday.

A police spokesperson said Kiev forces were alerted of Mr. Schetinin’s death at around midnight on Saturday. He is believed to have died a few hours earlier, between 8 and 9.30pm.

Officials have speculated that his death was caused by suicide, after a gun was found near his body along with spent cartridges, and the door to his apartment was said to be locked.

Local news source Kyiv Operatyvni reported: “Alexander was sitting on a chair with a gunshot wound to the head (under the chair was a gun).”

“Alexander was sitting on a chair, with a gunshot wound to his head, the gun was lying under the chair. According to credible sources, the case has been classified as suicide, as Alexander sent an email to one of his loved ones where he said he wanted to kill himself.”

Mr Shchetinin gave up his Russian citizenship before becoming a Ukrainian national and settling in the capital.

He set up the Novy Region news agency in.. and reportedly called the Russian president a “personal enemy”.

Ukrainian police are continuing to investigate the circumstances of Shchetinin’s death"

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Hillary called black people super predators.  Can I post the definition of "predator"?

Predator... A person who looks for other people in order to use, control or harm them in some way.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 28, 2016

I just don't understand how trump is going to save us.  He wants to bomb the hell out of the enemy when we are fighting a different type of war.  I think if we spread the wealth from the top down, things would be a lot different in the United States.

Here's one way;

Immigration Expert: U.S. to Resettle Nearly One Million Muslim Migrants Under One Term of Clinton Presidency. http://tiny.iavian.net/c082

While Trump would deny sharia law in our country Hillary would welcome it.

Something else you really need to think about is that the radical  muslims want you just as dead as they want the rest of us.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 28, 2016

And that would be total BS,  Arizonadream.  By the way, trump is not getting the asian, black, hispanic and college educated women votes = total lose for trump.

I don't know what's wrong, but she looks very ill in photos and videos. At best, maybe fatigue from the hypothyrodism.  At worst, physically unfit for the job.

 

I am a woman with a college degree and I oppose Clinton. I would vote 3rd party, but that would be throwing away an anti-Hillary vote, so I have to go with Trump.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 28, 2016

I was reading toe fungus can do a lot of damage, I bet she has toe fungus.

I have heard of bowling ball fungus, wonder if she's a bowler.  For those who have never heard of this I have

provided a informative link.  Beware the following link could cause death from laughing so hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEuBNYYwn8Y

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 28, 2016

Have you ever been in a circuit board factory?  There is not a lot of people because everything is automated.  And I don't believe trump is going to bring factory jobs back.  trump is against raising wages, so how is he going to bring factory jobs back when wages in other countries are so low.  trump is FOS!

You mean like this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm67wbB5GmI  There are thousands of people

working behind the scenes.   I have over 35 years in the field so I think I have a little insight. 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

bigbear

If it were not for people like Trump I think people like you would be living in the woods hunting squirrels and rabbits.

Some go for that sort of thing so don't think I am putting you down.  If Hilda gets elected squirrels might become a

endangered species then what will you do.  Trump does not have to build factories, just make the playing field evel

enough so that those who would, can.  It's becoming very clear to me now, you want big government so that they

can take care of you.  There are many places in the world where the people have surrendered their freedom and

independence over to government.  Maybe you would feel better in one of those. 

RL

bigbear29

I'm not impressed!  Trump is not bringing factories jobs back to the usa.  I too have spent most of my career in hi-tech from Silicon Valley to Oregon, state of Washington and Southern Ca..  trump is FOS!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 28, 2016

Stack,

For a while now your raison d'etre seems to be highlighting lines from other people's posts and nit picking. 

You may think you're real slick pimping for premium memberships but believe me your approach sure doesn't sell any.

Can't ya take a hint?

Someone has to buy Artist a month's Gold or Premium membership because I'm pretty sure they don't take EBT cards.

"you're real slick pimping for premium memberships but believe me your approach sure doesn't sell any."

Why don't you whine to Todd; "Stack should be reprimanded for suggesting that LP members upgrade their memberships"

Boo Hoo Hoo.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Aug 29, 2016

I'm not impressed!  Trump is not bringing factories jobs back to the usa.  I too have spent most of my career in hi-tech from Silicon Valley to Oregon, state of Washington and Southern Ca..  trump is FOS!

It's been quite a weekend, hasn't it?

Trust me, from experience they believe they can actually sway the election by posting stuff on LP and probably lots of other social media too.

"trump is FOS!"

If Trump keeps saying he's going to deport all the illegal from KY, Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul will back Clinton.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 28, 2016

Here's one way;

Immigration Expert: U.S. to Resettle Nearly One Million Muslim Migrants Under One Term of Clinton Presidency. http://tiny.iavian.net/c082

While Trump would deny sharia law in our country Hillary would welcome it.

Something else you really need to think about is that the radical  muslims want you just as dead as they want the rest of us.

"While Trump would deny sharia law in our country Hillary would welcome it."

ROFL

You really are clueless about the Constitution.

Seriously, do you actually think anyone will believe that stuff?

ROFL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Bigbear29

Are you a disgruntled ex factory worker replaced by automation or current trade with China?

If so you should vote Trump as your problems are most likely due to Obama and Hillary.  I know

it hurts and must really burn your ass to know you voted yourself out of a job.  Even a janitor

like yourself should be able to find a good job under Trump.       

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Stack

Seriously, do you actually think Hilda will abide by the Constitution.  What ever gave you that idea?

ROFL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Stack

Who would ever of thought Obama and Hilda would support sanctuary cities where murderers, rapist,

etc.. could live without fear of justice.  I often wonder why more is not done to stop illegal drug trade.

We have seen what they stand for. I guess Trump not releasing his taxes are a bigger concern to some.

I can't figure that one out either. 

 

Clowns to the left, jokers to the right here I am, stuck in the middle with Trump. 

 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

New York Times feb 2009

The United States remains by far the world's leading manufacturer by value of goods produced.

It hit a record $1.6 trillion in 2007 - nearly double the $811 billion of 1987. For every $1 of value

produced in China factories, the United States generates $2.50.

 

Wonder what these stats are in 2016 after 8 years of Obama and Hilda?

RL

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 28, 2016

I have heard of bowling ball fungus, wonder if she's a bowler.  For those who have never heard of this I have

provided a informative link.  Beware the following link could cause death from laughing so hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEuBNYYwn8Y

lol, too funny

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 29, 2016

"While Trump would deny sharia law in our country Hillary would welcome it."

ROFL

You really are clueless about the Constitution.

Seriously, do you actually think anyone will believe that stuff?

ROFL

Ask the British, the French and the Germans about massive muslim immigration. 

Ever heard of Londonistan, no go zones?

Maybe you should just take a trip to Dearborn or certain parts of Minneapolis.

You are the one who is clueless. 

As for whining to Todd about you pimping for premium memberships you sound like you're trying to get yourself a cut or just showing yourself to be a mooch.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 29, 2016

Ask the British, the French and the Germans about massive muslim immigration. 

Ever heard of Londonistan, no go zones?

Maybe you should just take a trip to Dearborn or certain parts of Minneapolis.

You are the one who is clueless. 

As for whining to Todd about you pimping for premium memberships you sound like you're trying to get yourself a cut or just showing yourself to be a mooch.

Yep. Yep and Yep.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 29, 2016

Can't ya take a hint?

Someone has to buy Artist a month's Gold or Premium membership because I'm pretty sure they don't take EBT cards.

"you're real slick pimping for premium memberships but believe me your approach sure doesn't sell any."

Why don't you whine to Todd; "Stack should be reprimanded for suggesting that LP members upgrade their memberships"

Boo Hoo Hoo.

Maybe Artist doesn't want a premium membership. So what? If you're bothered by the Standard tag, why don't you

buy it instead of referring to EBT cards? You are impulsive. You do not think before you speak. Whatever hits your brain

comes out of your mouth, no barriers to break or holds barred.

Awhile back you suggested people get back on topic. You swung them off topic again not long after. Your snide, cutting,

sarcastic remarks are better suited to matches where you are sure they'll bring you out on top, here, they don't. They

bury you. You reduce yourself to a child with much of what you say, it's a tit for tat with you. And the blue highlighting 

is something reminiscent of a second grader with a newly acquired skill of marking words with a 4 pack of florescent 

mini markers...you have yet to use the green and orange selections.

Your are the bully on the playground sitting in the middle of the see-saw...or dragging his feet on the merry-go-round..

or sitting in the middle of the slide so people can't enjoy what they came there for...here, you clog up the posts, get the 

last word in, refer to most people as idiots, use the little yellow guys...is that a show of something ridiculous or you laughing

because you think you got the upper hand? Bringing Todd into the mix when you behave like you do, is making him do a 

little yellow rolling guy, I'm sure...but it's at you because I don't see anyone else here who needs that guy associated with

their post or comment.

When you're all alone sometime bored and with nothing running off your brain..go back over some of your posts...try responding

to what you write, how would you respond? With anger? With contempt? With regret? With pity? Remorse? Pride? I'd respond

to you with a mix of pity and exhaustion. Pity because you haven't grown up and exhaustion cause you're old news. You're the type

no one really has to respond to, you're just there. Like green and gold flies on poo in the park or mold on a deck or bug guts on a 

windshield, you are about as insignificant as an old rotten tree that fell down in the woods. Maybe you can take your foot out of your

mouth sometimes before Todd directs it around the corner to your butt and boots you off. 

Why don't you try and get back on topic? and stay there for a change? You remind me of the oaf type, lumbering around the threads

looking for some action and in his best goofy, low toned chuckle, laughs to himself at what he posts/says that no one finds funny but him.

No wonder that type doesn't have any friends, everyone thinks he's creepy.

By the way, who are you for in this 1,000 plus post subject of this thread? I don't even remember...that's how much of an impact you've

made here....all that stands out is meaningless keystrokes, following highlights in yellow and blue...you've reduced yourself to colors, nice

legacy. Thumbs Down

I'm going to block you cause I'm actually sick of you. Besides, I know what you're going to say before you even say it, tell me you

won't be using the lame old highlighting techniques? Let me guess.....orange this time.....or pink??

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 29, 2016

Stack

Seriously, do you actually think Hilda will abide by the Constitution.  What ever gave you that idea?

ROFL

Have you actually read the U.S. Constitution?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 29, 2016

Stack

Who would ever of thought Obama and Hilda would support sanctuary cities where murderers, rapist,

etc.. could live without fear of justice.  I often wonder why more is not done to stop illegal drug trade.

We have seen what they stand for. I guess Trump not releasing his taxes are a bigger concern to some.

I can't figure that one out either. 

 

Clowns to the left, jokers to the right here I am, stuck in the middle with Trump. 

 

RL

"I often wonder why more is not done to stop illegal drug trade.

Probably because of legislative priorities. Just look at the fiasco the Alabama legislators had simply trying to put a lottery incentive on their state ballot. Do you expect them to stop it in that state?

"I guess Trump not releasing his taxes are a bigger concern to some."

Right now lots of Republicans like Ann Coulter are more concerned about Trumps flip-flop on immigration. If the polls are completed wrong and it's going to be a very close, it might be a huge concern for the undecided voters believing Trump is hiding something.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 29, 2016

Ask the British, the French and the Germans about massive muslim immigration. 

Ever heard of Londonistan, no go zones?

Maybe you should just take a trip to Dearborn or certain parts of Minneapolis.

You are the one who is clueless. 

As for whining to Todd about you pimping for premium memberships you sound like you're trying to get yourself a cut or just showing yourself to be a mooch.

"Ask the British, the French and the Germans about massive muslim immigration."

You were talking about decisions you think the two POTUS candidates might make "in our country" and now you're talking about Europe.

"While Trump would deny sharia law in our country Hillary would welcome it."

And that's why I highlight the portions of a post I'm commenting on.

"Maybe you should just take a trip to Dearborn or certain parts of Minneapolis.  "

Been to the Henry Ford Museum and the Mall of America, what's your point?

"You are the one who is clueless."

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

It's really a shame I have to show you what the First Amendment says about religion. Article I of the Constitution clearly outlines which branch of the government makes the laws and the First Amendment clearly prohibits making certain religious laws. If Congress can't prohibit the free exercise of any religion, how could Trump deny the Laws of Moses, Sharia Law, or any other religious law?

Your ignorance of the Constitution is now embarrassing even the hard core Trump supporters.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 29, 2016

Maybe Artist doesn't want a premium membership. So what? If you're bothered by the Standard tag, why don't you

buy it instead of referring to EBT cards? You are impulsive. You do not think before you speak. Whatever hits your brain

comes out of your mouth, no barriers to break or holds barred.

Awhile back you suggested people get back on topic. You swung them off topic again not long after. Your snide, cutting,

sarcastic remarks are better suited to matches where you are sure they'll bring you out on top, here, they don't. They

bury you. You reduce yourself to a child with much of what you say, it's a tit for tat with you. And the blue highlighting 

is something reminiscent of a second grader with a newly acquired skill of marking words with a 4 pack of florescent 

mini markers...you have yet to use the green and orange selections.

Your are the bully on the playground sitting in the middle of the see-saw...or dragging his feet on the merry-go-round..

or sitting in the middle of the slide so people can't enjoy what they came there for...here, you clog up the posts, get the 

last word in, refer to most people as idiots, use the little yellow guys...is that a show of something ridiculous or you laughing

because you think you got the upper hand? Bringing Todd into the mix when you behave like you do, is making him do a 

little yellow rolling guy, I'm sure...but it's at you because I don't see anyone else here who needs that guy associated with

their post or comment.

When you're all alone sometime bored and with nothing running off your brain..go back over some of your posts...try responding

to what you write, how would you respond? With anger? With contempt? With regret? With pity? Remorse? Pride? I'd respond

to you with a mix of pity and exhaustion. Pity because you haven't grown up and exhaustion cause you're old news. You're the type

no one really has to respond to, you're just there. Like green and gold flies on poo in the park or mold on a deck or bug guts on a 

windshield, you are about as insignificant as an old rotten tree that fell down in the woods. Maybe you can take your foot out of your

mouth sometimes before Todd directs it around the corner to your butt and boots you off. 

Why don't you try and get back on topic? and stay there for a change? You remind me of the oaf type, lumbering around the threads

looking for some action and in his best goofy, low toned chuckle, laughs to himself at what he posts/says that no one finds funny but him.

No wonder that type doesn't have any friends, everyone thinks he's creepy.

By the way, who are you for in this 1,000 plus post subject of this thread? I don't even remember...that's how much of an impact you've

made here....all that stands out is meaningless keystrokes, following highlights in yellow and blue...you've reduced yourself to colors, nice

legacy. Thumbs Down

I'm going to block you cause I'm actually sick of you. Besides, I know what you're going to say before you even say it, tell me you

won't be using the lame old highlighting techniques? Let me guess.....orange this time.....or pink??

I'll give you this, you Trump supporters are very passionate, but the statistical analysis is showing you're in the minority.

"I'm going to block you cause I'm actually sick of you."

We all know you're not really going to block me so why all the drama?

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 28, 2016

Lol. Coin Toss (best name in LP...and Haymaker), he is just jealous that I have a job and  am better educated. And I showed up his lack of legal sense. Just basic sexism. Secure males would not even care.

Thanks, Artist77 Smile

Always Cool to be associated w/ Coin Toss.

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 29, 2016

New York Times feb 2009

The United States remains by far the world's leading manufacturer by value of goods produced.

It hit a record $1.6 trillion in 2007 - nearly double the $811 billion of 1987. For every $1 of value

produced in China factories, the United States generates $2.50.

 

Wonder what these stats are in 2016 after 8 years of Obama and Hilda?

RL

RANDOMLOGIC

You're making a lot of sense throughout this thread...maybe you should be called "SpotOnLogic"

 

I'm not really a Trump fan...however I would't vote for Hildabeast w/ a gun pointed at my head !

 

Saw a funny tee-shirt that said

"1/20/17  the end of an error"

I certainly hope so !

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by haymaker on Aug 29, 2016

RANDOMLOGIC

You're making a lot of sense throughout this thread...maybe you should be called "SpotOnLogic"

 

I'm not really a Trump fan...however I would't vote for Hildabeast w/ a gun pointed at my head !

 

Saw a funny tee-shirt that said

"1/20/17  the end of an error"

I certainly hope so !

"I'm not really a Trump fan...however I would't vote for Hildabeast w/ a gun pointed at my head "

That's been my point all along!

After the 2012 presidential election everybody knew Clinton was going to be the Democrat nominee, but after the Republican smoke cleared away, they nominated the one candidate that has a very difficult time at best winning in November. We have almost 70 pages of Clinton bashing, but can't find any creditable reason to vote for Trump.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 29, 2016

Have you actually read the U.S. Constitution?

Maybe you should read it to obama.  Since he has no clue.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Stack,

I guess you missed the news about certain people in Congress (guess which party) think the Constitution is outdated and should be rewritten.

As for your highlighting in blue you may think what you want but for some of us it just proves you're out to be a pain in the keister.

From one post to the next you don't even realize what you previously said.....just a few posts ago you post the rule about personal attacks.

I believe you are genuinely in need of mental help and I'll no longer deal with a crazy person.

Have a nice life.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 29, 2016

"I'm not really a Trump fan...however I would't vote for Hildabeast w/ a gun pointed at my head "

That's been my point all along!

After the 2012 presidential election everybody knew Clinton was going to be the Democrat nominee, but after the Republican smoke cleared away, they nominated the one candidate that has a very difficult time at best winning in November. We have almost 70 pages of Clinton bashing, but can't find any creditable reason to vote for Trump.

Oh really Jethro?  No credible reason to vote for Trump?  obama's making history!  More millennials are now living  with their parents since the 1880's!  Gee, obama and Hillary are really looking out for the middle-class huh?  Give me a break.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 29, 2016

Maybe Artist doesn't want a premium membership. So what? If you're bothered by the Standard tag, why don't you

buy it instead of referring to EBT cards? You are impulsive. You do not think before you speak. Whatever hits your brain

comes out of your mouth, no barriers to break or holds barred.

Awhile back you suggested people get back on topic. You swung them off topic again not long after. Your snide, cutting,

sarcastic remarks are better suited to matches where you are sure they'll bring you out on top, here, they don't. They

bury you. You reduce yourself to a child with much of what you say, it's a tit for tat with you. And the blue highlighting 

is something reminiscent of a second grader with a newly acquired skill of marking words with a 4 pack of florescent 

mini markers...you have yet to use the green and orange selections.

Your are the bully on the playground sitting in the middle of the see-saw...or dragging his feet on the merry-go-round..

or sitting in the middle of the slide so people can't enjoy what they came there for...here, you clog up the posts, get the 

last word in, refer to most people as idiots, use the little yellow guys...is that a show of something ridiculous or you laughing

because you think you got the upper hand? Bringing Todd into the mix when you behave like you do, is making him do a 

little yellow rolling guy, I'm sure...but it's at you because I don't see anyone else here who needs that guy associated with

their post or comment.

When you're all alone sometime bored and with nothing running off your brain..go back over some of your posts...try responding

to what you write, how would you respond? With anger? With contempt? With regret? With pity? Remorse? Pride? I'd respond

to you with a mix of pity and exhaustion. Pity because you haven't grown up and exhaustion cause you're old news. You're the type

no one really has to respond to, you're just there. Like green and gold flies on poo in the park or mold on a deck or bug guts on a 

windshield, you are about as insignificant as an old rotten tree that fell down in the woods. Maybe you can take your foot out of your

mouth sometimes before Todd directs it around the corner to your butt and boots you off. 

Why don't you try and get back on topic? and stay there for a change? You remind me of the oaf type, lumbering around the threads

looking for some action and in his best goofy, low toned chuckle, laughs to himself at what he posts/says that no one finds funny but him.

No wonder that type doesn't have any friends, everyone thinks he's creepy.

By the way, who are you for in this 1,000 plus post subject of this thread? I don't even remember...that's how much of an impact you've

made here....all that stands out is meaningless keystrokes, following highlights in yellow and blue...you've reduced yourself to colors, nice

legacy. Thumbs Down

I'm going to block you cause I'm actually sick of you. Besides, I know what you're going to say before you even say it, tell me you

won't be using the lame old highlighting techniques? Let me guess.....orange this time.....or pink??

Thank you Dr65. What a great response! The mini markers line is classic.

As you have seen with "Stack of lies", he has serious mental health issues. I outed him when he tried to pass himself off as a legal scholar.  Yet I am the employed one with a great job and career while he posts his rants at all hours. So he is left to come up with a sexist rant by categorizing a female as on welfare.

We had a member bounced from lp who used this tactic against women members.  So he tries to control by ranting about membership which is solely a personal choice. Yet I have a home paid off, an 820 credit rating, and am active in my community. His claims and rants are a microcosm of the failings of the Democratic party.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Aug 28, 2016

There are some reports that it could be Parkinson's.

 

But, yeah, she needs to disclose whatever the issue is. It looks serious enough to affect her ability to hold office.

On the one hand: Hillary is an evil mastermind who hates America!!! 

In the other: Hillary is too old!!!! (Even though Trump is older) 

You can't have it both ways and likely neither are true.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 29, 2016

On the one hand: Hillary is an evil mastermind who hates America!!! 

In the other: Hillary is too old!!!! (Even though Trump is older) 

You can't have it both ways and likely neither are true.

Hillary is an old evil mastermind who hates America, English teacher would love me.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 29, 2016

Thank you Dr65. What a great response! The mini markers line is classic.

As you have seen with "Stack of lies", he has serious mental health issues. I outed him when he tried to pass himself off as a legal scholar.  Yet I am the employed one with a great job and career while he posts his rants at all hours. So he is left to come up with a sexist rant by categorizing a female as on welfare.

We had a member bounced from lp who used this tactic against women members.  So he tries to control by ranting about membership which is solely a personal choice. Yet I have a home paid off, an 820 credit rating, and am active in my community. His claims and rants are a microcosm of the failings of the Democratic party.

Yes it a great response, I blocked him.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Aug 28, 2016

Blahahahahaha, I know where he's getting lots of Native American votes, hahahaha.

http://www.census.gov/quickfacts/map/RHI325215/00

States with over 5% of the population being Native American: Alaska, Arizona,Montana, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota.

All of them are states he's already gonna win anyway except for NM which would be an impressive and difficult pick up from the 2012 map.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Aug 28, 2016

Here's one way;

Immigration Expert: U.S. to Resettle Nearly One Million Muslim Migrants Under One Term of Clinton Presidency. http://tiny.iavian.net/c082

While Trump would deny sharia law in our country Hillary would welcome it.

Something else you really need to think about is that the radical  muslims want you just as dead as they want the rest of us.

https://www.splcenter.org/20090201/nativist-lobby-three-faces-intolerance

If you want to be taken seriously, you need to not use a neo-nazi eugenicist as a source. 

I celebrated when Trump won the nomination because he was the only one in the field NOT advocating for Christian Sharia law.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

huh? I didn't say any of those things. (Well, the word "evil" may have slipped out, but not mastermind).   And old isn't the same as sick, that's a rather age-ist assumption on your part.   

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Aug 29, 2016

http://www.census.gov/quickfacts/map/RHI325215/00

States with over 5% of the population being Native American: Alaska, Arizona,Montana, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota.

All of them are states he's already gonna win anyway except for NM which would be an impressive and difficult pick up from the 2012 map.

Thumbs Up Job well done young man.

Dee88's avatarDee88

    Here is a link that Obama is a muslim... and he doesn't want you to know it...

 

             

OBAMA [AS IN ALABAMA] ON THIS VIDEO IS FINALLY ADMITTING, WHAT JAMES A. BRAY WAS SAYING     9 YEARS AGO

Blocked segment from Fox News Now Shown!

 

Remember when we were told to watch Fox News on a Sunday night that was going to air something about Obama and we watched but never saw anything! Well, read below and click on the video to see why it got pulled before it  could air

Now we know why Fox News never broadcast it as they had originally planned to. This piece was pulled.

*I encourage you to please send this to everyone on your email list ASAP.*

*Remember all the notices we kept getting to watch Fox News on Sunday at 9PM? What Happened?*

*This is the clip that got pulled due to pressure from the Administration.*

Obama Puts Heat on Fox News to Prevent Sean Hannity from airing this piece.

*This is a video that Sean Hannity of FOX News has been trying to show that we are told has consistently been blocked by the Obama Administration for several weeks. It was a matter of time until the internet  picked it up.*

*Watch it now before it gets pulled from the internet!*

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

Forward to as many and as quickly as you can!

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Aug 29, 2016

    Here is a link that Obama is a muslim... and he doesn't want you to know it...

 

             

OBAMA [AS IN ALABAMA] ON THIS VIDEO IS FINALLY ADMITTING, WHAT JAMES A. BRAY WAS SAYING     9 YEARS AGO

Blocked segment from Fox News Now Shown!

 

Remember when we were told to watch Fox News on a Sunday night that was going to air something about Obama and we watched but never saw anything! Well, read below and click on the video to see why it got pulled before it  could air

Now we know why Fox News never broadcast it as they had originally planned to. This piece was pulled.

*I encourage you to please send this to everyone on your email list ASAP.*

*Remember all the notices we kept getting to watch Fox News on Sunday at 9PM? What Happened?*

*This is the clip that got pulled due to pressure from the Administration.*

Obama Puts Heat on Fox News to Prevent Sean Hannity from airing this piece.

*This is a video that Sean Hannity of FOX News has been trying to show that we are told has consistently been blocked by the Obama Administration for several weeks. It was a matter of time until the internet  picked it up.*

*Watch it now before it gets pulled from the internet!*

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

Forward to as many and as quickly as you can!

It has been so obvious that Obama is masquerading as a a Christian to conceal his Muslim faith. Prior to being elected, there was an excerpt from a book of his that if given a preference his loyalty would be with Muslims. This revelation is printed in black and white yet none of his supporters even acknowledge it.

The video link is spot on! I could only watch part of it as it activated my morning sickness once again. Anything having to do with Obama or Hillary is not good on my pregnancy so I think I will enjoy some ice cream to soothe my belly.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

I remember years ago that Jean Dixon and some others predicted that a great evil man would be born in the Early 1960's. Yea I know she was nutty but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 29, 2016

I remember years ago that Jean Dixon and some others predicted that a great evil man would be born in the Early 1960's. Yea I know she was nutty but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Thumbs Up Isn't that the truth!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 29, 2016

It has been so obvious that Obama is masquerading as a a Christian to conceal his Muslim faith. Prior to being elected, there was an excerpt from a book of his that if given a preference his loyalty would be with Muslims. This revelation is printed in black and white yet none of his supporters even acknowledge it.

The video link is spot on! I could only watch part of it as it activated my morning sickness once again. Anything having to do with Obama or Hillary is not good on my pregnancy so I think I will enjoy some ice cream to soothe my belly.

Congrats, when is you due date?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Aug 29, 2016

    Here is a link that Obama is a muslim... and he doesn't want you to know it...

 

             

OBAMA [AS IN ALABAMA] ON THIS VIDEO IS FINALLY ADMITTING, WHAT JAMES A. BRAY WAS SAYING     9 YEARS AGO

Blocked segment from Fox News Now Shown!

 

Remember when we were told to watch Fox News on a Sunday night that was going to air something about Obama and we watched but never saw anything! Well, read below and click on the video to see why it got pulled before it  could air

Now we know why Fox News never broadcast it as they had originally planned to. This piece was pulled.

*I encourage you to please send this to everyone on your email list ASAP.*

*Remember all the notices we kept getting to watch Fox News on Sunday at 9PM? What Happened?*

*This is the clip that got pulled due to pressure from the Administration.*

Obama Puts Heat on Fox News to Prevent Sean Hannity from airing this piece.

*This is a video that Sean Hannity of FOX News has been trying to show that we are told has consistently been blocked by the Obama Administration for several weeks. It was a matter of time until the internet  picked it up.*

*Watch it now before it gets pulled from the internet!*

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

Forward to as many and as quickly as you can!

Good find Dee, Thanks will pass this along.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 29, 2016

"I often wonder why more is not done to stop illegal drug trade.

Probably because of legislative priorities. Just look at the fiasco the Alabama legislators had simply trying to put a lottery incentive on their state ballot. Do you expect them to stop it in that state?

"I guess Trump not releasing his taxes are a bigger concern to some."

Right now lots of Republicans like Ann Coulter are more concerned about Trumps flip-flop on immigration. If the polls are completed wrong and it's going to be a very close, it might be a huge concern for the undecided voters believing Trump is hiding something.

Trump has a heart, in the past it might have been as hard as a rock but maybe, just maybe

he might be making a few observations that are having an effect.  I said in a earlier post that

Two of my best friends were Mexican Americans, One told me a story about how is grand

mother was beaten with a stick for speaking in Spanish during school.   I think all Americans

should speak English but I would never endorse beating anyone for speaking in a native tongue.

Having a common language helps in so many ways, medical emergencies just to name one.  There

are so many reasons to have a common language that are not racist.  A society at it's basic roots

is all about commonality.  We don't have to agree on everything but at the very least we need to

be able to talk to each other.   Language barriers create disconnects and as such it tends to force

some to congregate into sub societies which flues racism.  America was built on a set of moral values

but there have always been those who have operated outside these moral bounds.  What I see as

the biggest problem in America is that too many of our leaders no longer hold these Truths in high

esteem.  They feed on the ignorance of some using it to propel themselves forward.  We are the first

to live in the information age and as with anything new, we don't fully understand it.  I am old school

to the bone and proud of it.   I think Trump has always known the border problems would not be limited

to a big wall.  There are many aspects that have to be considered and he knows this.  As I mentioned 

in another post the one fix wall is political rhetoric.  It drives home the "I understand the problem" 

Trump knows full well that there are some very good people that have fled Mexico into America who want

a better life.   On the other hand there are many others who bring nothing but despair.   I hear many

saying something to the effect that's it good to have someone to do the work Americans don't want to

do.  What they are really saying is that slave labor is good, using the uneducated poor to do the dirty

jobs no one else wants.   Many of these people do farm labor and farmers have always been thought of

as lesser beings.  IMHO, farmers are the cream of the crop, without them civilization would not be possible.

Plumbers fall in at a close second.  No city on earth could survive without them.   

 

I encourage everyone to get out and vote come November,  I don't care who you vote for as long as you

don't let someone else decide for you.   I never really know who I will vote for until I enter the voting booth. 

It never fails me that in those few seconds in the booth a very gravely feeling comes over me and for a few

seconds it's as though the weight of the world rest on my shoulders.  It's at that time that I make my final

choice.   The rhetoric all seems to melts away and I listen to that inner voice.   The right to vote should never

be taken for granted.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

The Muslim faith is made up of borrowed beliefs form other religions.  The anti-Christ won't be a Muslim. 

The Muslims will play a role in the end times but they will be destroyed by the Beast according to the

Bible.  Muslims trace their roots to Abraham same as the Jews and Christians but again according to the

Bible the promise of the "seed" was not given to Ishmael.   God did bless Ishmael and promised to make

him a great nation but that's all other than saying that he would be a "wild ass."   This is not meant to

be a negative saying as a wild ass was considered a thing of power.    Most of what people know about

the end times is, I hate to say is wrong. 

Just like our world history has been polluted with untruths, so has many religious teachings of all faiths

including Christianity.  I know this will bring out the zealots but that's not what I intended and won't be

posting anymore on the subject.   Your welcome to your thoughts but ask yourself how you came by those

thoughts.   Anyone who is really interested in what I consider the best case of Bible truth can look do a

search for "Dr Michael S. Heiser."  IMHO the best bible scholar in the world.  Start with the Divine Council

101 youtube video linked below.  If you have issue with his teachings then I suggest you contact him.  If

you value your pride and hate eating crow then I suggest you search out the facts before doing so.     

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5dQb8M2fKU

I don't want to turn this topic into a debate on religion so don't try to make it one.  Many of the current views

on the "END" have had a negative affect on people.  If however your current biblical knowledge leaves you in

the dark then I suggest you take a look.   There is well over 100 hours of videos and podcast available online

from Dr Heiser which will increase your understanding of what Christianity really is. 

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Aug 29, 2016

Oh really Jethro?  No credible reason to vote for Trump?  obama's making history!  More millennials are now living  with their parents since the 1880's!  Gee, obama and Hillary are really looking out for the middle-class huh?  Give me a break.

I asked for credible reasons to vote for Trump and you replied with reasons you didn't vote for Obama. Ted Cruz won the Wisconsin primary so it doesn't look like Trump was your state's first choice.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 30, 2016

Trump has a heart, in the past it might have been as hard as a rock but maybe, just maybe

he might be making a few observations that are having an effect.  I said in a earlier post that

Two of my best friends were Mexican Americans, One told me a story about how is grand

mother was beaten with a stick for speaking in Spanish during school.   I think all Americans

should speak English but I would never endorse beating anyone for speaking in a native tongue.

Having a common language helps in so many ways, medical emergencies just to name one.  There

are so many reasons to have a common language that are not racist.  A society at it's basic roots

is all about commonality.  We don't have to agree on everything but at the very least we need to

be able to talk to each other.   Language barriers create disconnects and as such it tends to force

some to congregate into sub societies which flues racism.  America was built on a set of moral values

but there have always been those who have operated outside these moral bounds.  What I see as

the biggest problem in America is that too many of our leaders no longer hold these Truths in high

esteem.  They feed on the ignorance of some using it to propel themselves forward.  We are the first

to live in the information age and as with anything new, we don't fully understand it.  I am old school

to the bone and proud of it.   I think Trump has always known the border problems would not be limited

to a big wall.  There are many aspects that have to be considered and he knows this.  As I mentioned 

in another post the one fix wall is political rhetoric.  It drives home the "I understand the problem" 

Trump knows full well that there are some very good people that have fled Mexico into America who want

a better life.   On the other hand there are many others who bring nothing but despair.   I hear many

saying something to the effect that's it good to have someone to do the work Americans don't want to

do.  What they are really saying is that slave labor is good, using the uneducated poor to do the dirty

jobs no one else wants.   Many of these people do farm labor and farmers have always been thought of

as lesser beings.  IMHO, farmers are the cream of the crop, without them civilization would not be possible.

Plumbers fall in at a close second.  No city on earth could survive without them.   

 

I encourage everyone to get out and vote come November,  I don't care who you vote for as long as you

don't let someone else decide for you.   I never really know who I will vote for until I enter the voting booth. 

It never fails me that in those few seconds in the booth a very gravely feeling comes over me and for a few

seconds it's as though the weight of the world rest on my shoulders.  It's at that time that I make my final

choice.   The rhetoric all seems to melts away and I listen to that inner voice.   The right to vote should never

be taken for granted.

RL

Good post RL Thumbs Up 

Another job no one seems to want but everyone cannot do without...Trash Collector. Imagine if

no one did that job.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 30, 2016

Trump has a heart, in the past it might have been as hard as a rock but maybe, just maybe

he might be making a few observations that are having an effect.  I said in a earlier post that

Two of my best friends were Mexican Americans, One told me a story about how is grand

mother was beaten with a stick for speaking in Spanish during school.   I think all Americans

should speak English but I would never endorse beating anyone for speaking in a native tongue.

Having a common language helps in so many ways, medical emergencies just to name one.  There

are so many reasons to have a common language that are not racist.  A society at it's basic roots

is all about commonality.  We don't have to agree on everything but at the very least we need to

be able to talk to each other.   Language barriers create disconnects and as such it tends to force

some to congregate into sub societies which flues racism.  America was built on a set of moral values

but there have always been those who have operated outside these moral bounds.  What I see as

the biggest problem in America is that too many of our leaders no longer hold these Truths in high

esteem.  They feed on the ignorance of some using it to propel themselves forward.  We are the first

to live in the information age and as with anything new, we don't fully understand it.  I am old school

to the bone and proud of it.   I think Trump has always known the border problems would not be limited

to a big wall.  There are many aspects that have to be considered and he knows this.  As I mentioned 

in another post the one fix wall is political rhetoric.  It drives home the "I understand the problem" 

Trump knows full well that there are some very good people that have fled Mexico into America who want

a better life.   On the other hand there are many others who bring nothing but despair.   I hear many

saying something to the effect that's it good to have someone to do the work Americans don't want to

do.  What they are really saying is that slave labor is good, using the uneducated poor to do the dirty

jobs no one else wants.   Many of these people do farm labor and farmers have always been thought of

as lesser beings.  IMHO, farmers are the cream of the crop, without them civilization would not be possible.

Plumbers fall in at a close second.  No city on earth could survive without them.   

 

I encourage everyone to get out and vote come November,  I don't care who you vote for as long as you

don't let someone else decide for you.   I never really know who I will vote for until I enter the voting booth. 

It never fails me that in those few seconds in the booth a very gravely feeling comes over me and for a few

seconds it's as though the weight of the world rest on my shoulders.  It's at that time that I make my final

choice.   The rhetoric all seems to melts away and I listen to that inner voice.   The right to vote should never

be taken for granted.

RL

                  I Agree!    well said....and on point...  Thumbs Up

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 30, 2016

Trump has a heart, in the past it might have been as hard as a rock but maybe, just maybe

he might be making a few observations that are having an effect.  I said in a earlier post that

Two of my best friends were Mexican Americans, One told me a story about how is grand

mother was beaten with a stick for speaking in Spanish during school.   I think all Americans

should speak English but I would never endorse beating anyone for speaking in a native tongue.

Having a common language helps in so many ways, medical emergencies just to name one.  There

are so many reasons to have a common language that are not racist.  A society at it's basic roots

is all about commonality.  We don't have to agree on everything but at the very least we need to

be able to talk to each other.   Language barriers create disconnects and as such it tends to force

some to congregate into sub societies which flues racism.  America was built on a set of moral values

but there have always been those who have operated outside these moral bounds.  What I see as

the biggest problem in America is that too many of our leaders no longer hold these Truths in high

esteem.  They feed on the ignorance of some using it to propel themselves forward.  We are the first

to live in the information age and as with anything new, we don't fully understand it.  I am old school

to the bone and proud of it.   I think Trump has always known the border problems would not be limited

to a big wall.  There are many aspects that have to be considered and he knows this.  As I mentioned 

in another post the one fix wall is political rhetoric.  It drives home the "I understand the problem" 

Trump knows full well that there are some very good people that have fled Mexico into America who want

a better life.   On the other hand there are many others who bring nothing but despair.   I hear many

saying something to the effect that's it good to have someone to do the work Americans don't want to

do.  What they are really saying is that slave labor is good, using the uneducated poor to do the dirty

jobs no one else wants.   Many of these people do farm labor and farmers have always been thought of

as lesser beings.  IMHO, farmers are the cream of the crop, without them civilization would not be possible.

Plumbers fall in at a close second.  No city on earth could survive without them.   

 

I encourage everyone to get out and vote come November,  I don't care who you vote for as long as you

don't let someone else decide for you.   I never really know who I will vote for until I enter the voting booth. 

It never fails me that in those few seconds in the booth a very gravely feeling comes over me and for a few

seconds it's as though the weight of the world rest on my shoulders.  It's at that time that I make my final

choice.   The rhetoric all seems to melts away and I listen to that inner voice.   The right to vote should never

be taken for granted.

RL

Thumbs Up Very nice RL!

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 30, 2016

Good post RL Thumbs Up 

Another job no one seems to want but everyone cannot do without...Trash Collector. Imagine if

no one did that job.

Don't for get them trucker drivers.  Patriot

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 30, 2016

Good post RL Thumbs Up 

Another job no one seems to want but everyone cannot do without...Trash Collector. Imagine if

no one did that job.

They can make over 100 k also.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 30, 2016

Thumbs Up Very nice RL!

Can we have a group lp vote and name your baby? I vote for Megabucks or Cash.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 30, 2016

Can we have a group lp vote and name your baby? I vote for Megabucks or Cash.

Lol! a nickname perhaps? He or she will be our little lottery bundle as that is what it's going cost us by the time college is done.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 30, 2016

Lol! a nickname perhaps? He or she will be our little lottery bundle as that is what it's going cost us by the time college is done.

Lol Congratulations! I think he/she also wants a PhD by age 25. $

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 29, 2016

It has been so obvious that Obama is masquerading as a a Christian to conceal his Muslim faith. Prior to being elected, there was an excerpt from a book of his that if given a preference his loyalty would be with Muslims. This revelation is printed in black and white yet none of his supporters even acknowledge it.

The video link is spot on! I could only watch part of it as it activated my morning sickness once again. Anything having to do with Obama or Hillary is not good on my pregnancy so I think I will enjoy some ice cream to soothe my belly.

Ha!

Made me sick and I'm not even pregnant.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Aug 30, 2016

Ha!

Made me sick and I'm not even pregnant.

A good cure for Obama-idis or Hilda-rhea is to simply mute the volume and enjoy a big bowl of ice cream.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 30, 2016

A good cure for Obama-idis or Hilda-rhea is to simply mute the volume and enjoy a big bowl of ice cream.

Why do I see horns on Obama everytime I see him? Lol I never could watch him or his wife for more than a few seconds.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Aug 30, 2016

A good cure for Obama-idis or Hilda-rhea is to simply mute the volume and enjoy a big bowl of ice cream.

Chocolate with Caramel and Hazelnut truffle. Yum Hyper

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Aug 30, 2016

Ha!

Made me sick and I'm not even pregnant.

lol!

kreative1's avatarkreative1

IF Trump comes back from mexico I'm sure his view will be different about illegal immigration and he will look like this

Scared lol

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by kreative1 on Aug 31, 2016

IF Trump comes back from mexico I'm sure his view will be different about illegal immigration and he will look like this

Scared lol

IF. LOL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 30, 2016

Trump has a heart, in the past it might have been as hard as a rock but maybe, just maybe

he might be making a few observations that are having an effect.  I said in a earlier post that

Two of my best friends were Mexican Americans, One told me a story about how is grand

mother was beaten with a stick for speaking in Spanish during school.   I think all Americans

should speak English but I would never endorse beating anyone for speaking in a native tongue.

Having a common language helps in so many ways, medical emergencies just to name one.  There

are so many reasons to have a common language that are not racist.  A society at it's basic roots

is all about commonality.  We don't have to agree on everything but at the very least we need to

be able to talk to each other.   Language barriers create disconnects and as such it tends to force

some to congregate into sub societies which flues racism.  America was built on a set of moral values

but there have always been those who have operated outside these moral bounds.  What I see as

the biggest problem in America is that too many of our leaders no longer hold these Truths in high

esteem.  They feed on the ignorance of some using it to propel themselves forward.  We are the first

to live in the information age and as with anything new, we don't fully understand it.  I am old school

to the bone and proud of it.   I think Trump has always known the border problems would not be limited

to a big wall.  There are many aspects that have to be considered and he knows this.  As I mentioned 

in another post the one fix wall is political rhetoric.  It drives home the "I understand the problem" 

Trump knows full well that there are some very good people that have fled Mexico into America who want

a better life.   On the other hand there are many others who bring nothing but despair.   I hear many

saying something to the effect that's it good to have someone to do the work Americans don't want to

do.  What they are really saying is that slave labor is good, using the uneducated poor to do the dirty

jobs no one else wants.   Many of these people do farm labor and farmers have always been thought of

as lesser beings.  IMHO, farmers are the cream of the crop, without them civilization would not be possible.

Plumbers fall in at a close second.  No city on earth could survive without them.   

 

I encourage everyone to get out and vote come November,  I don't care who you vote for as long as you

don't let someone else decide for you.   I never really know who I will vote for until I enter the voting booth. 

It never fails me that in those few seconds in the booth a very gravely feeling comes over me and for a few

seconds it's as though the weight of the world rest on my shoulders.  It's at that time that I make my final

choice.   The rhetoric all seems to melts away and I listen to that inner voice.   The right to vote should never

be taken for granted.

RL

"I said in a earlier post that Two of my best friends were Mexican Americans, One told me a story about how is grand mother was beaten with a stick for speaking in Spanish during school."

The people in the neighborhood where I lived as a child spoke German, Polish, Italian, and one family spoke Swedish. We only spoke English and were in the minority.

"America was built on a set of moral values but there have always been those who have operated outside these moral bounds.  What I see as the biggest problem in America is that too many of our leaders no longer hold these Truths in high esteem."

I'm not going to debate opinions on what built America, but I will show what Thomas Jefferson said:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

"Trump knows full well that there are some very good people that have fled Mexico into America who want a better life."

Apparently Trump will meet with the Mexican President today and will give a policy speech tonight on his wall and hopefully how he plans on deporting 11 million people who entered illegally.

"On the other hand there are many others who bring nothing but despair."

Considering Alabama has 1 million people on Medicaid and why their Governor wanted a lottery to pay for it and included with the 55 million in the entire U.S., should trying to figure out how to separate the "good illegal immigrants from the bad" be a top priority for Congress in a Trump administration?

"I never really know who I will vote for until I enter the voting booth. It never fails me that in those few seconds in the booth a very gravely feeling comes over me and for a few seconds it's as though the weight of the world rest on my shoulders."

I live in a red state where the question is will all the registered Republicans come out and vote for Trump and Rand Paul.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 31, 2016

"I said in a earlier post that Two of my best friends were Mexican Americans, One told me a story about how is grand mother was beaten with a stick for speaking in Spanish during school."

The people in the neighborhood where I lived as a child spoke German, Polish, Italian, and one family spoke Swedish. We only spoke English and were in the minority.

"America was built on a set of moral values but there have always been those who have operated outside these moral bounds.  What I see as the biggest problem in America is that too many of our leaders no longer hold these Truths in high esteem."

I'm not going to debate opinions on what built America, but I will show what Thomas Jefferson said:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

"Trump knows full well that there are some very good people that have fled Mexico into America who want a better life."

Apparently Trump will meet with the Mexican President today and will give a policy speech tonight on his wall and hopefully how he plans on deporting 11 million people who entered illegally.

"On the other hand there are many others who bring nothing but despair."

Considering Alabama has 1 million people on Medicaid and why their Governor wanted a lottery to pay for it and included with the 55 million in the entire U.S., should trying to figure out how to separate the "good illegal immigrants from the bad" be a top priority for Congress in a Trump administration?

"I never really know who I will vote for until I enter the voting booth. It never fails me that in those few seconds in the booth a very gravely feeling comes over me and for a few seconds it's as though the weight of the world rest on my shoulders."

I live in a red state where the question is will all the registered Republicans come out and vote for Trump and Rand Paul.

Stack

Meaningless babble.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I am sure Trump will find out that Mexico does not want the people to come back.  The mexican government 

makes several members of the US government look like saints.

RL

dr65's avatardr65

America's view of Hillary at a record low point: Aaron Blake, Washington Post.

Keep it up America! 

Trump's speech on immigration tonight, someone holding a sign: Hillary for Prison 2016 LOL

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 31, 2016

America's view of Hillary at a record low point: Aaron Blake, Washington Post.

Keep it up America! 

Trump's speech on immigration tonight, someone holding a sign: Hillary for Prison 2016 LOL

I got a few more to add to that prison list.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 31, 2016

America's view of Hillary at a record low point: Aaron Blake, Washington Post.

Keep it up America! 

Trump's speech on immigration tonight, someone holding a sign: Hillary for Prison 2016 LOL

     LOCK HER UP!!!  LOCK HER UP!!!.....Green laugh

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 31, 2016

Stack

Meaningless babble.

Are you calling an excerpt from the Declaration of Independence "Meaningless babble"?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Aug 31, 2016

     LOCK HER UP!!!  LOCK HER UP!!!.....Green laugh

lol! yeah, we already have one farce in the White House. We don't need another for the next 4 years. She's a blatant

criminal and lies through her teeth. She's above the law so she thinks. I read somewhere that the 30,000 emails were

about Chelsea's wedding, she said. Anyone that believes that one should go to jail with her...that's so stupid, it's criminal.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Aug 31, 2016

lol! yeah, we already have one farce in the White House. We don't need another for the next 4 years. She's a blatant

criminal and lies through her teeth. She's above the law so she thinks. I read somewhere that the 30,000 emails were

about Chelsea's wedding, she said. Anyone that believes that one should go to jail with her...that's so stupid, it's criminal.

And yoga.  LOL!

bigbear29

trump now loses The Hispanic council!  trump is going to lose.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 1, 2016

trump now loses The Hispanic council!  trump is going to lose.

Whats the hispanic council?  La Raza?  Who cares!

bigbear29

It is part of the Hispanic group that trump had a meeting with two weeks ago at trump tower.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 1, 2016

It is part of the Hispanic group that trump had a meeting with two weeks ago at trump tower.

Hillary probably offered them more free stuff.

bigbear29

Georgia congressman Jack Kingston just dropped trump!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 1, 2016

Georgia congressman Jack Kingston just dropped trump!

He was defeated two years ago.  He's not a congressman anymore.  LOL

bigbear29

A vote is a vote!

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 1, 2016

A vote is a vote!

I Agree! Won't be long now bigbear. Patriot

moonos

In Australia we haven't had a decent leader of a political party to vote for for some time... but you Americans take the $hit candidates to a new level!

 

Trump is just plain crazy and a compulsive liar...A world with trump as American president is downright scary.

 

And Hillary might have all her marbles, but I wouldn't trust her one bit she is dodgy as hell.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Stack

No, just your post.

RL

bigbear29

That's who we have, so we have to pick the one that we think will run the United State the best.  And for me, trump is not it.  Trump doesn't want to release his taxes because he knows that would be a big negative for him.

bigbear29

That's right, it won't be long now.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by moonos on Sep 2, 2016

In Australia we haven't had a decent leader of a political party to vote for for some time... but you Americans take the $hit candidates to a new level!

 

Trump is just plain crazy and a compulsive liar...A world with trump as American president is downright scary.

 

And Hillary might have all her marbles, but I wouldn't trust her one bit she is dodgy as hell.

moonos

Which news networks do you watch?  Trump spouts all kind on nonsense at his rallies.  Look at his family

if you want to know what kind of a person he really is.   Here in the US there is much more going on then

many know about.  Trump holds many of the old school values that made America what it use to be.  If you

ever had respect for the US in the past then don't fear Trump.  If however you enjoy seeing  everything go

to hell then Hilda is sure to please. 

For the last 30 years or so there has been a movement to destroy American values by both political parties. 

The US use to stand for something but now I don't have a clue.   Both parties are scared to death of Trump

and will do anything to stop him, ask yourself WHY? 

Both parties are so corrupt and know that if Trump is elected the party is over for a lot of folks.  Why have

members of the republican party turned against him?  It's Simple, they would rather have the status quo

and Hilda then return to sanity.  The news networks are in so deep that it will be all but over for them if

Trump wins.   Corruption, corruption, corruption is the new standard here and most have been programmed

by the news media.   The president can only do so much as that's the way our government works but when

they start tinkering with the Constitution then America as it was known is over.   Trump should be elected if

for only one reason, he will appoint justices that will support the Constitution.  I heard George Bush say that

the Constitution was just a piece of paper, he should have been impeached on the spot.  Obama likes to think

that he is the only one who understands it and Hilda's first move will be to redefine the 2nd amendment.  The

Demo's caused many of the problems that we are facing and it was not by accident.   Make it so bad that many

will agree with you.  Guns are not the problem, it's people like Bush, Clinton's and Obama.  JFK was going to

expose the corruption and they killed him. 

RL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Sep 2, 2016

Stack

No, just your post.

RL

"America was built on a set of moral values but there have always been those who have operated outside these moral bounds.  What I see as the biggest problem in America is that too many of our leaders no longer hold these Truths in high esteem."

I was nicely pointing out you misquoted the Declaration of Independence by showing the real Truths that were "self-evident". Can you show us where we can find a "set of moral values" and "moral bounds" in the Declaration of Independence" or the Constitution?

"I think all Americans should speak English but I would never endorse beating anyone for speaking in a native tongue."

Considering there is no official U.S. language and because of our Constitutional Rights of Privacy, it doesn't matter what you think all Americans should speak. You said "I would never endorse beating anyone speaking in a native tongue" as if there are things where you would endorse beatings. What are they?

I saw where the choir you're preaching to really liked your post and I did too because it shows the ignorance of many of the Trump supporters, speaking of "babble".

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Sep 2, 2016

moonos

Which news networks do you watch?  Trump spouts all kind on nonsense at his rallies.  Look at his family

if you want to know what kind of a person he really is.   Here in the US there is much more going on then

many know about.  Trump holds many of the old school values that made America what it use to be.  If you

ever had respect for the US in the past then don't fear Trump.  If however you enjoy seeing  everything go

to hell then Hilda is sure to please. 

For the last 30 years or so there has been a movement to destroy American values by both political parties. 

The US use to stand for something but now I don't have a clue.   Both parties are scared to death of Trump

and will do anything to stop him, ask yourself WHY? 

Both parties are so corrupt and know that if Trump is elected the party is over for a lot of folks.  Why have

members of the republican party turned against him?  It's Simple, they would rather have the status quo

and Hilda then return to sanity.  The news networks are in so deep that it will be all but over for them if

Trump wins.   Corruption, corruption, corruption is the new standard here and most have been programmed

by the news media.   The president can only do so much as that's the way our government works but when

they start tinkering with the Constitution then America as it was known is over.   Trump should be elected if

for only one reason, he will appoint justices that will support the Constitution.  I heard George Bush say that

the Constitution was just a piece of paper, he should have been impeached on the spot.  Obama likes to think

that he is the only one who understands it and Hilda's first move will be to redefine the 2nd amendment.  The

Demo's caused many of the problems that we are facing and it was not by accident.   Make it so bad that many

will agree with you.  Guns are not the problem, it's people like Bush, Clinton's and Obama.  JFK was going to

expose the corruption and they killed him. 

RL

"Trump spouts all kind on nonsense at his rallies.

And don't forget all the lies!! Even the fact checkers gave up because Trump never gives any facts. How is nonsense and lies going to make America great again?

"Look at his family if you want to know what kind of a person he really is."

Four years ago it was "look at Mitt's family". Do both families look the same to you?

"Both parties are so corrupt and know that if Trump is elected the party is over for a lot of folks."

Did you miss the memo saying Trump was the Republican party nominee?

"Trump should be elected if for only one reason, he will appoint justices that will support the Constitution."

Their job is to interpret the Constitution after hearing a citizen's grievances. Are you suggesting that if elected he will appoint Justices that supports Trump's interpretation of the Constitution?

"Guns are not the problem, it's people like Bush, Clinton's and Obama."

Most reasonable people agree if your name is on a "no fly" list, you can't legally purchase a gun.

"JFK was going to expose the corruption and they killed him."

George W and Bill were 18 when Kennedy was assassinated, Hillary was 15, and Obama was 3. So I'm guessing you're saying George Herbert Walker Bush killed JFK?

Bet Clinton is banking on there are more Trump supporters just like you.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 2, 2016

"Trump spouts all kind on nonsense at his rallies.

And don't forget all the lies!! Even the fact checkers gave up because Trump never gives any facts. How is nonsense and lies going to make America great again?

"Look at his family if you want to know what kind of a person he really is."

Four years ago it was "look at Mitt's family". Do both families look the same to you?

"Both parties are so corrupt and know that if Trump is elected the party is over for a lot of folks."

Did you miss the memo saying Trump was the Republican party nominee?

"Trump should be elected if for only one reason, he will appoint justices that will support the Constitution."

Their job is to interpret the Constitution after hearing a citizen's grievances. Are you suggesting that if elected he will appoint Justices that supports Trump's interpretation of the Constitution?

"Guns are not the problem, it's people like Bush, Clinton's and Obama."

Most reasonable people agree if your name is on a "no fly" list, you can't legally purchase a gun.

"JFK was going to expose the corruption and they killed him."

George W and Bill were 18 when Kennedy was assassinated, Hillary was 15, and Obama was 3. So I'm guessing you're saying George Herbert Walker Bush killed JFK?

Bet Clinton is banking on there are more Trump supporters just like you.

  1.   Trump lies?  Really?  LOL!  Ever hear of Hillary Clinton?
  2.   What does Mitt have to do with this?  I don't get your point.
  3.    Maybe you haven't heard but the Republican "establishment" is anti-Trump.
  4.    Only someone with their head buried in the sand think the liberal justices follow the Constitution.  Come on man.
  5.    Who's to say the government won't put political enemies on the no fly list?  Think about it.  obama's IRS already targeted conservative groups.
  6.    We will never know who shot JFK.  All the witnesses are long since dead. 
RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Stack

Again meaningless babble

I have no Idea who the power is behind the throne but it's a fact that JFK said he was going to expose them

and a week or so later he was dead. 

The 2nd amendment is under attack like never before,  The Demo's think the Constitution is open to interpretation.

The right to bare arms is written is stone.  Read how the sneaky <snip>s are attempting to control the purchase

of guns by veterans in the link below.

https://www.gunowners.org/fs2011a.htm

Trump lies, give me a break,  Hilda trumps Trump and in that department, she even trumps Obama and IMHO there

is not a lick of truth in him. 

RL 

 

 

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Artist77's avatarArtist77

And now we find out Hillary did not know documents with a big C on them meant Confidential. She thought it meant paragraph C.  This is unreal. And she cannot remember any State Dept. briefings after her fall. So who is her puppetmaster? Huma and her mother?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

She did however know enough to have the emails erased in ways that they could not be recovered. 

Hmmmmm!

RL

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Sep 2, 2016

Stack

Again meaningless babble

I have no Idea who the power is behind the throne but it's a fact that JFK said he was going to expose them

and a week or so later he was dead. 

The 2nd amendment is under attack like never before,  The Demo's think the Constitution is open to interpretation.

The right to bare arms is written is stone.  Read how the sneaky <snip>s are attempting to control the purchase

of guns by veterans in the link below.

https://www.gunowners.org/fs2011a.htm

Trump lies, give me a break,  Hilda trumps Trump and in that department, she even trumps Obama and IMHO there

is not a lick of truth in him. 

RL 

 

 

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And it does not end with denying veterans the right to bear arms. Soon the public will be barred from the right 

to express opinion. Unless of course it fits with government agenda...and the way this one is going, that agenda

is rotten to the core.

Hillary forgetting certain security measures is more rot. 

 

Hillary's lead cut by half. Big Grin

IF it was ever a lead...1/2 of what someone was supposedly leading by sounds better than neck and neck and sinking

fast in anything. 

Cheers

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

And Reuters now says it's Trump 40% to Clinton 39% in their latest poll of likely voters.

bigbear29

Trump still needs the black, asian and hispanic votes to win.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Sep 2, 2016

And Reuters now says it's Trump 40% to Clinton 39% in their latest poll of likely voters.

And for the poll watcher's here who do not fail to remind us, historically, that the polls do not lie, what

will they say now?

bigbear29

Wow!  Big lead!

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 2, 2016

Wow!  Big lead!

lol and if it were reversed, you'd be saying...landslide LOL

bigbear29

I would say the same thing.  It is a tie.  Polls are nice, but in trump case, he totally destroyed the black, asian and hispanic votes.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 2, 2016

I would say the same thing.  It is a tie.  Polls are nice, but in trump case, he totally destroyed the black, asian and hispanic votes.

And you base that on what?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 2, 2016

I would say the same thing.  It is a tie.  Polls are nice, but in trump case, he totally destroyed the black, asian and hispanic votes.

Crickets.

bigbear29

It's totally impossible to win on just white votes.  He needs a lot more black, asian and hispanic votes.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 2, 2016

  1.   Trump lies?  Really?  LOL!  Ever hear of Hillary Clinton?
  2.   What does Mitt have to do with this?  I don't get your point.
  3.    Maybe you haven't heard but the Republican "establishment" is anti-Trump.
  4.    Only someone with their head buried in the sand think the liberal justices follow the Constitution.  Come on man.
  5.    Who's to say the government won't put political enemies on the no fly list?  Think about it.  obama's IRS already targeted conservative groups.
  6.    We will never know who shot JFK.  All the witnesses are long since dead. 

Take another look and you'll see I commented on RANDOMLOGIC'S remarks.

1) "Trump lies?"

For what it's worth; no skin off my nose if Trump was caught lying 101 times or 10,000 times.

2) "What does Mitt have to do with this?  "

Ask RANDOMLOGIC. they brought it up saying "Look at his family if you want to know what kind of a person he really is." the same thing the Republicans said about Romney four years ago. Did you sleep through the 2012 election cycle?

3) "Maybe you haven't heard but the Republican "establishment" is anti-Trump."

Not entirely because Trump made the "establishment" cut their anti-gambling plank out of "Trump's platform".

4) "Only someone with their head buried in the sand think the liberal justices follow the Constitution.  Come on man."

Then it should be easy for you to show a recent example where the Court ruled against the Constitution.

5) "Who's to say the government won't put political enemies on the no fly list?"

Do you understand what the "no fly list" is or are you saying "the government" will put their political enemies on the list so they can't legally purchase a gun?

6) "We will never know who shot JFK.  All the witnesses are long since dead."

Again, you'll have to ask RANDOMLOGIC about that because it was their thang.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 2, 2016

I would say the same thing.  It is a tie.  Polls are nice, but in trump case, he totally destroyed the black, asian and hispanic votes.

You can't have it both ways and say one poll is more accurate than another because there are very few non-agenda driven polls. Real Clear Politics shows several polls and readers can decide which one is most accurate. The National poll like the Rasmussen Reports shows Trump 40 and Clinton 39 while Fox News shows Clinton 48 and Trump 42.

IMO the polls that really count are state polls.

bigbear29

I don't recall stating one poll is more accurate than another?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Sep 2, 2016

Stack

Again meaningless babble

I have no Idea who the power is behind the throne but it's a fact that JFK said he was going to expose them

and a week or so later he was dead. 

The 2nd amendment is under attack like never before,  The Demo's think the Constitution is open to interpretation.

The right to bare arms is written is stone.  Read how the sneaky <snip>s are attempting to control the purchase

of guns by veterans in the link below.

https://www.gunowners.org/fs2011a.htm

Trump lies, give me a break,  Hilda trumps Trump and in that department, she even trumps Obama and IMHO there

is not a lick of truth in him. 

RL 

 

 

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Ever wonder why Trump said "We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated."?

"The right to bare arms is written is stone."

Did you know the "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" is written in the same stone as the Eighteenth Amendment?

"Read how the sneaky <snip>s are attempting to control the purchase of guns by veterans in the link below."

I prefer reading what other war veterans have to say about it; you know the ones who were actually in a war and not those with flat feet. Were you turned down when you tried to by a gun at a gun show?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 2, 2016

I don't recall stating one poll is more accurate than another?

Of course not.

My point was some polls are more accurate than others and some times people misrepresent polls. The polls that include the third and fourth party candidates obviously show the two at the top closer than they actually are.

moonos

We can bet on the winner of the election over here...

 

Sportsbet also allows you to bet on:

How tall will the wall be?

Who will pay for the wall?

What will the wall be made of:

concrete, plastic, mahogany, Titanium, paddle pop sticks, kryptonite, hahaha!

 

501:1 that trump will build a wall around California or the Canadian border!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Here are my bets If Trump get elected.

The Wall will not be a literal wall except in some areas.

It will be as tall as it needs to be.

Mexico will pay for the wall indirectly, the Mexican government won't be writing a check.

The wall will be built using economic leverage.

A very large amount of the Mexican economy comes from the US. 

I would say that the wall will be electronic in nature but will also include a beefed up border patrol.

Try sneaking into the Nellis Air Force range better known as Area-51. They can detect a mouse fart.

Drones will determine the height of the wall.

Everything needed for the wall we already have, it's just the switch has been shut off.

Mexico stands to loose billion which they can't afford.  Too many US companies have left the states

to use slave labor and avoid paying taxes.  I think those days are coming to a end.

The common man is paying the bills while the Billionaires are getting a free ride, Trump included. 

Some moron will pop up here and have to comment on how Trump wants to change the estate tax

which will benefit him but if I were In the same boat I would want it changed.  A person can work

their entire life building something only to have the Tax vultures circling around waiting for them to

die.   Some billionaires have done nothing but take while others actually built something.  Trump is

not squeaky clean but he has created thousands of jobs.   I think his gross worth is around 10billion

so if his entire worth was divided among the US population it would work out to around 10 billion  / 300

million people, each one would receive around  $33.00 bucks.  I would think his net worth would be a

fraction of that amount so we could all expect a few cents.   Don't chop off the hand that feeds you.

RL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 3, 2016

Ever wonder why Trump said "We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated."?

"The right to bare arms is written is stone."

Did you know the "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" is written in the same stone as the Eighteenth Amendment?

"Read how the sneaky <snip>s are attempting to control the purchase of guns by veterans in the link below."

I prefer reading what other war veterans have to say about it; you know the ones who were actually in a war and not those with flat feet. Were you turned down when you tried to by a gun at a gun show?

In regards to the second amendment... Just another reason to elect Trump.  Keep the liberals off the Supreme Court.

As for the veterans ... Tell us about your military hitch Jethro?

bigbear29

It is too late for trump!  Yes trump has created jobs, jobs for illegals and he has screwed people out of money and jobs.  Trump should release his taxes!  Washington needs to change, and trump is not the person to do it.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 3, 2016

It is too late for trump!  Yes trump has created jobs, jobs for illegals and he has screwed people out of money and jobs.  Trump should release his taxes!  Washington needs to change, and trump is not the person to do it.

Trump got a standing ovation at a black church today in Detroit.   Times, they are a changing.

bigbear29

Trump's support among black voters is 2%

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 3, 2016

Trump's support among black voters is 2%

I think you're going to be surprised.  What have the democrats done for black people?  What have they done for anyone other than political hacks?  What did obama do with that trillion dollar stimulus?  That was supposed to be used for "shovel ready jobs"... Instead most of that money went to support the teacher unions.  People are waking up to the fraud that is the democrat party.  Can you say... "President Trump" bigbear?  LOL

bigbear29

Please tell your leader that it's not NAFTA, it's corporate GREED that is putting people out of work.

 

Trump's clothes are made overseas.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Hillary would make such a good President and Commander-in-Chief. Sure;

Clinton told FBI she didn't understand classified intel‏

Clinton told FBI she didn't understand classified intel. http://tiny.iavian.net/c3zv
LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 3, 2016

Please tell your leader that it's not NAFTA, it's corporate GREED that is putting people out of work.

 

Trump's clothes are made overseas.

Do you shop at Walmart?  Yea, thats what I thought.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 3, 2016

Hillary would make such a good President and Commander-in-Chief. Sure;

Clinton told FBI she didn't understand classified intel‏

Clinton told FBI she didn't understand classified intel. http://tiny.iavian.net/c3zv

Smartest woman in the world.  LOL

bigbear29

And she is winning!

bigbear29

Do you shop at Walmart?

bigbear29

What have the republicans done for black people?

Stack47

"Keep the liberals off the Supreme Court."

Like John Roberts? LOL

"As for the veterans"

Trump on John McCain: “He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."

Trump on getting a Purple Heart copy: "And I said, 'Man, that’s like big stuff. I always wanted to get the Purple Heart," Trump said. "This was much easier.”

The Veterans of Foreign Wars on Trump: “Election year or not, the VFW will not tolerate anyone berating a Gold Star family member for exercising his or her right of speech or expression,”  “There are certain sacrosanct subjects that no amount of wordsmithing can repair once crossed,”  “Giving one’s life to nation is the greatest sacrifice, followed closely by all Gold Star families, who have a right to make their voices heard.”

"Tell us about your military hitch Jethro?"

I'm a life-member of the VFW, junior Cheesehead though I doubt you have the intelligence to understand what that means..

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 3, 2016

What have the republicans done for black people?

I see a bunch of people preaching to the choir. Do you really think these people are convincing anybody else to vote for Trump? ROFL

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 3, 2016

What have the republicans done for black people?

What have the Democrats done?

Chicago, Detroit, D.C., Baltimore, etc.... Years of Democrat mayors and leadership sure has worked out fine, huh?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Sep 2, 2016

And Reuters now says it's Trump 40% to Clinton 39% in their latest poll of likely voters.

Point? President Gore is impressed that you care about national numbers. 

Trump will probably win the popular vote narrowly, but his road to 270 is not looking good. Colorado, New Hampshire, and Virginia seem to be pretty strong for Hillary and so he'll need to win practically everything else if he has any chance of winning without them.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Sep 2, 2016

And you base that on what?

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-african-american-numbers-abysmal-poll-754037827860

Yeah yeah MSNBC but she's just listing poll data. You can't argue with non-biased reporting of polling data.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 4, 2016

Point? President Gore is impressed that you care about national numbers. 

Trump will probably win the popular vote narrowly, but his road to 270 is not looking good. Colorado, New Hampshire, and Virginia seem to be pretty strong for Hillary and so he'll need to win practically everything else if he has any chance of winning without them.

Counter to bear's frequent posting of poll numbers.

Points- thing can change, poll numbers can change, and it's not over until it's over.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 3, 2016

"Keep the liberals off the Supreme Court."

Like John Roberts? LOL

"As for the veterans"

Trump on John McCain: “He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."

Trump on getting a Purple Heart copy: "And I said, 'Man, that’s like big stuff. I always wanted to get the Purple Heart," Trump said. "This was much easier.”

The Veterans of Foreign Wars on Trump: “Election year or not, the VFW will not tolerate anyone berating a Gold Star family member for exercising his or her right of speech or expression,”  “There are certain sacrosanct subjects that no amount of wordsmithing can repair once crossed,”  “Giving one’s life to nation is the greatest sacrifice, followed closely by all Gold Star families, who have a right to make their voices heard.”

"Tell us about your military hitch Jethro?"

I'm a life-member of the VFW, junior Cheesehead though I doubt you have the intelligence to understand what that means..

Wow, stack throwing insults again.  LOL!   Want a war bigmouth?  Come up to Green Bay.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Can't wait for the first debate.  Trump will have Hillary crying.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 3, 2016

What have the republicans done for black people?

29

Let me see, they ended Slavery, were behind the civil rights movement, etc....

 

Lets look at the problems with Hilda's border plan.  First we open the border and let the uneducated workers

come as they please.   The Highly educated Mexican labor force won't be the ones crossing the border looking

for work.  When the labor force increases, employers can offer less to potential employees because there are so

many people to choose from.  Without creating more jobs it hurts far more than it helps.  Who will it hurt the

most, the under educated American workers?   Intercity jobs are gone, gone, gone.  Trump will help these people

by creating jobs which will improve quality of life, drive down poverty, crime etc..  Enforcing the law will also have

a positive effect as it will work to take drugs off the streets.  How can this be bad unless your a drug dealer?  Guns

are not the reason people are killing each other.   I expect we will soon have to surrender our table forks, butter

knifes etc...           

 

The democrats want education for everyone and so do I but not everyone has the mental capacity to learn.  That is

not to say that they don't have anything to offer.  We need people who are not afraid to roll up their sleeves and pick

up a tool.  We can't survive without these people.  In the US a collage degree is many times not worth the paper it is

written on.  Why, because there are not enough jobs.   I personally think that this is part of the democrats plan.  It's

all about getting rid of the middle class,  first make them feel like less of a person if they don't have a collage education

so that they are willing to go into debt to get a degree only to find out that they can't find a job.  Now they are forced

to work for lower pay.  This gives the employers more power because they are getting a better rounded employee for

far less pay.  This takes the jobs away from the workers without degrees so that they have to take the jobs that were

before taken by the lower scale workers.  The democrat trickle down economics program at it's best.   Look at the big

picture and you will see.  It won't be long until the people with advanced degrees will be fighting over cotton picking

jobs.     

 

The family farmer / rancher does not have much of a chance either these days, corporate farming is taking over which

can be regulated by government.  We need these people very badly.   The family farmers are like bees, once they are

gone so will all our ability to self govern.  Once they have the guns and family farming industry in their pocket the

government will rule without consent of the people.

 

The powers that be are hell bent on taking down the US using deception to do it.  First do something that is politically

correct so that people will buy into it when the real thought behind it is eroding the things that are really important.

 

Wake up America.

 

RL

bigbear29

WOW!  The republicans ended slavery, WOW, that was only yesterday, right?  And that is totally incorrect that the republicans were behind the civil rights movement in the 1960's.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 4, 2016

Can't wait for the first debate.  Trump will have Hillary crying.

I seen a news story where Hilda was gathering information on what sets Trump off.   This is so Hilda, she knows

that she has nothing to run on as everything she has ever done has failed.  Hilda wants to try and draw Trump

into some off topic where Trump will be more than happy to go.  She is a ass-wipe and should be flushed down

the toilet.  She has so much $hit on her record that's it's the only humane thing left to do.  If Trump stays on topic

then Hildabeast won't have a chance.   I am sure she's checking her list, checking it twice, gotta cover her tracks

and avoid the fight.     

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 4, 2016

WOW!  The republicans ended slavery, WOW, that was only yesterday, right?  And that is totally incorrect that the republicans were behind the civil rights movement in the 1960's.

Incorrect, prove that statement.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I hear many blacks say "Lincoln was my president."  I wonder if they know he was a Republican.

I am neither a republican or democrat, I am a American and I am for America and

will vote for  anyone who I think is also for America.  Think I am being hard on Hilda, you

should of heard me when Bush junior was running, or his father for that matter.

RL

bigbear29

Yes, a lot of blacks know that Lincoln was a republican, things were different.  Republicans are not the same today!

Wow, you had to go back to the slavery days to prove your point.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trump knows how the private sector works.  We need a businessman to turn things around.  What does Hillary know?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 4, 2016

Trump knows how the private sector works.  We need a businessman to turn things around.  What does Hillary know?

What does Hilary know?

Let's see, just off the top of my head...

1) How to lie.

2) How to delete 30,000+ emails.

3) How to use hubby Bill to get what she wants.

4) How to steal money through her "foundation".

That's my top 4....someone can add on....

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 4, 2016

Wow, stack throwing insults again.  LOL!   Want a war bigmouth?  Come up to Green Bay.

"Tell us about your military hitch Jethro?"

For what it's worth my "military hitch" will get me an extra $1 month in SS benefits.

And why did you call me "Jethro"?

"Want a war"

That's the number one reason why there are Second Amendment opponents; an irrational person owns a real gun[s], gets their feelings hurt on a message board, and wants to play "Gunfight at the OK Corral". I'm not against it, but IMO some people should not own firearms.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 4, 2016

What does Hilary know?

Let's see, just off the top of my head...

1) How to lie.

2) How to delete 30,000+ emails.

3) How to use hubby Bill to get what she wants.

4) How to steal money through her "foundation".

That's my top 4....someone can add on....

Yes I have something to add... When Hillary goes down, the mainstream press should go down also.  Don't think the founders knew about CNN, ABC, CBS or NBC when they wrote the First Amendment.  The press has become an arm of the political left.  In essence, a part of the government.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 4, 2016

"Tell us about your military hitch Jethro?"

For what it's worth my "military hitch" will get me an extra $1 month in SS benefits.

And why did you call me "Jethro"?

"Want a war"

That's the number one reason why there are Second Amendment opponents; an irrational person owns a real gun[s], gets their feelings hurt on a message board, and wants to play "Gunfight at the OK Corral". I'm not against it, but IMO some people should not own firearms.

Sorry for calling you Jethro.  If you served you deserve respect, as do millions of other Americans who also served, including myself.   However, knowing what we all know about Hillary Clinton, how can anyone vote for her?  If you continue to support that corrupt individual, knowing what you know about her... I'm afraid I'll have to start calling you goober.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 4, 2016

What does Hilary know?

Let's see, just off the top of my head...

1) How to lie.

2) How to delete 30,000+ emails.

3) How to use hubby Bill to get what she wants.

4) How to steal money through her "foundation".

That's my top 4....someone can add on....

lol #3 and Bill's looking pretty spent. He doesn't look good at all.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 4, 2016

WOW!  The republicans ended slavery, WOW, that was only yesterday, right?  And that is totally incorrect that the republicans were behind the civil rights movement in the 1960's.

Do you know that Dr Kings niece, Dr Aveda King  supports Trump?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/dr-martin-luther-kings-niece-endorses-donald-trump-believe-many-things-hes-saying/

I watched a interview with her and she seems to be a chip off the ol block.  One of the first papers I wrote in collage many many

years ago was on Dr. King, Amazing man.

RL

bigbear29

And that's her choice.  Alveda is some what of a nutcase too.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 4, 2016

What does Hilary know?

Let's see, just off the top of my head...

1) How to lie.

2) How to delete 30,000+ emails.

3) How to use hubby Bill to get what she wants.

4) How to steal money through her "foundation".

That's my top 4....someone can add on....

How to leave men die in Benghazi.

How to sell us out to Putin , he's got the Uranium now.

How to sell us out to the Saudis.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

She's so altruistic too;

Hillary lets children ask her questions — for $2,700 apiece!
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/hillary-lets-children-ask-questions-2700-apiece/

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 4, 2016

Sorry for calling you Jethro.  If you served you deserve respect, as do millions of other Americans who also served, including myself.   However, knowing what we all know about Hillary Clinton, how can anyone vote for her?  If you continue to support that corrupt individual, knowing what you know about her... I'm afraid I'll have to start calling you goober.

"If you served you deserve respect, as do millions of other Americans who also served, including myself."

And John McCain and another reason Trumps approval ratings are lower than Clinton.

"However, knowing what we all know about Hillary Clinton, how can anyone vote for her? "

You may have missed where I said I live in a solid Red State and if Trump loses here, he won't win any state. It's all about getting 270 it's going to more difficult for Trump. The real question should be, the Republicans knew four years ago Clinton was going to be the nominee so how did somebody not even on the Republican party radar get the nomination?

If I had a huge wager on Trump winning the election, I'd be worried because none of the top Republicans are endorsing or campaigning for him.

"If you continue to support that corrupt individual, knowing what you know about her... I'm afraid I'll have to start calling you goober."

People won't have to openly support Clinton because Trump will put his foot in his month a few more times and lose even more voters between now and the election.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 4, 2016

She's so altruistic too;

Hillary lets children ask her questions — for $2,700 apiece!
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/hillary-lets-children-ask-questions-2700-apiece/

ROFL

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Sep 4, 2016

How to leave men die in Benghazi.

How to sell us out to Putin , he's got the Uranium now.

How to sell us out to the Saudis.

Very good sully!

Hmmm.....

How her and Bill caused so many to commit "suicide" over the years.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 4, 2016

She's so altruistic too;

Hillary lets children ask her questions — for $2,700 apiece!
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/hillary-lets-children-ask-questions-2700-apiece/

Geez,

what a bargain!

moonos

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 5, 2016

"If you served you deserve respect, as do millions of other Americans who also served, including myself."

And John McCain and another reason Trumps approval ratings are lower than Clinton.

"However, knowing what we all know about Hillary Clinton, how can anyone vote for her? "

You may have missed where I said I live in a solid Red State and if Trump loses here, he won't win any state. It's all about getting 270 it's going to more difficult for Trump. The real question should be, the Republicans knew four years ago Clinton was going to be the nominee so how did somebody not even on the Republican party radar get the nomination?

If I had a huge wager on Trump winning the election, I'd be worried because none of the top Republicans are endorsing or campaigning for him.

"If you continue to support that corrupt individual, knowing what you know about her... I'm afraid I'll have to start calling you goober."

People won't have to openly support Clinton because Trump will put his foot in his month a few more times and lose even more voters between now and the election.

People won't have to openly support Clinton because Trump will put his foot in his month a few more times and lose even more voters between now and the election.

That's pretty much what I'm thinking.

 

I reckon Trump could have won it but his mouth will end his chances. Unfortunately that leaves Hillary to win by default (Steven Bradbury moment for the Aussies...)

 

What are the other candidates like? Are these two really the best that was on offer?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

When even the Huffington Post/aol is reporting Hillary's lead is declining and admits Trump is in the lead in one national poll, you know Trump must be doing exceedingly well.

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by moonos on Sep 5, 2016

People won't have to openly support Clinton because Trump will put his foot in his month a few more times and lose even more voters between now and the election.

That's pretty much what I'm thinking.

 

I reckon Trump could have won it but his mouth will end his chances. Unfortunately that leaves Hillary to win by default (Steven Bradbury moment for the Aussies...)

 

What are the other candidates like? Are these two really the best that was on offer?

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Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

For those pushing poll results and thus the mainstream media.

We have 9000 radio stations and 1500 TV stations.

They are owned by six corporations, GE, NEWSCORP, Disney, Viacom, Time Warner and CBS.

ABC Executive News Producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, National; Security Adviser.

CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama's Deputy National Security Adviser for  Strategic Communications.

ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney.

ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katir Hogan, Obama's Dputy Press Secretary.

ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama's Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood. 

CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton's Deputy secretary Tom Nides. 

See any biased there?

bigbear29

Another thing, trump is having a twitter war with the president Mexico.  Is that presidential?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

You support Hillary and want to discuss what is and isn't presidential?

bigbear29

Yes, Hillary is not having a twitter war with the president of Mexico.  Or should we call it negotiations?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 5, 2016

Yes, Hillary is not having a twitter war with the president of Mexico.  Or should we call it negotiations?

Hildabeast can't talk without coughing, she looks very sick, if she ends up in the hospital....

GAME OVER, TRUMP WILL WIN BY A LANDSLIDE

Bruuuuhahahahahahahaha.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Sep 5, 2016

Hildabeast can't talk without coughing, she looks very sick, if she ends up in the hospital....

GAME OVER, TRUMP WILL WIN BY A LANDSLIDE

Bruuuuhahahahahahahaha.

At least Trump shares his posts and does not delete them. Lol He has a quick mind.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 5, 2016

For those pushing poll results and thus the mainstream media.

We have 9000 radio stations and 1500 TV stations.

They are owned by six corporations, GE, NEWSCORP, Disney, Viacom, Time Warner and CBS.

ABC Executive News Producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, National; Security Adviser.

CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama's Deputy National Security Adviser for  Strategic Communications.

ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney.

ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katir Hogan, Obama's Dputy Press Secretary.

ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama's Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood. 

CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton's Deputy secretary Tom Nides. 

See any biased there?

Well that makes everything very clear about why the mainstream media is so in bed with Ovomit.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Sep 5, 2016

Hildabeast can't talk without coughing, she looks very sick, if she ends up in the hospital....

GAME OVER, TRUMP WILL WIN BY A LANDSLIDE

Bruuuuhahahahahahahaha.

I heard her giving the interview in my car and she was having a coughing attack before I over heard someone saying get her water. Apparently the same scenario had happened earlier as well. I wish I could have seen it play out on TV to get an idea on how sick she looked. 

If she is as sick as people claim, this is karma finally catching up to her.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 5, 2016

For those pushing poll results and thus the mainstream media.

We have 9000 radio stations and 1500 TV stations.

They are owned by six corporations, GE, NEWSCORP, Disney, Viacom, Time Warner and CBS.

ABC Executive News Producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, National; Security Adviser.

CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama's Deputy National Security Adviser for  Strategic Communications.

ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney.

ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katir Hogan, Obama's Dputy Press Secretary.

ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama's Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood. 

CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton's Deputy secretary Tom Nides. 

See any biased there?

The list you provided is spot on and just the tip of the iceberg on how conflicted the mainstream media actually is.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Sep 5, 2016

I heard her giving the interview in my car and she was having a coughing attack before I over heard someone saying get her water. Apparently the same scenario had happened earlier as well. I wish I could have seen it play out on TV to get an idea on how sick she looked. 

If she is as sick as people claim, this is karma finally catching up to her.

Probably Bill's cigars.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 5, 2016

Well that makes everything very clear about why the mainstream media is so in bed with Ovomit.

Have a question about eligibility of being PORTUS. If Ted Cruz is eligible, is Bindi Irwin the daughter of Steve Irwin eligible too?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 5, 2016

Yes, Hillary is not having a twitter war with the president of Mexico.  Or should we call it negotiations?

When NAFTA was first proposed the Clintons were telling us how it would be good for America, not sure if you remember that.

Look what Hillary is saying about NAFTA now. 

As for her not having a twitter war, whoop tee do........she had a self inflicted security breach encounter with the world.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Sep 4, 2016

I hear many blacks say "Lincoln was my president."  I wonder if they know he was a Republican.

I am neither a republican or democrat, I am a American and I am for America and

will vote for  anyone who I think is also for America.  Think I am being hard on Hilda, you

should of heard me when Bush junior was running, or his father for that matter.

RL

RL,

Not  only might they not now that Lincoln was a Republican but he said that if he could have ended the war without ending slavery he would have done it. 

Also, 'long story short', take a good look at the flag of Liberia.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 5, 2016

For those pushing poll results and thus the mainstream media.

We have 9000 radio stations and 1500 TV stations.

They are owned by six corporations, GE, NEWSCORP, Disney, Viacom, Time Warner and CBS.

ABC Executive News Producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, National; Security Adviser.

CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama's Deputy National Security Adviser for  Strategic Communications.

ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney.

ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katir Hogan, Obama's Dputy Press Secretary.

ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama's Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood. 

CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton's Deputy secretary Tom Nides. 

See any biased there?

Whoa, I had no idea. That's disgusting.

 

I gave up watching all TV news in the early 90's. Best mental health preserving decision I could have made.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

rcbuckeye, Drenick1, ArizonaDream,

Thanks. 

I used to be on the road a lot and remember a guy om radio saying that stations used to have their own persona and view of stories but at some point all the news was coming from one source and echoed on every station. 

He said next time you were in your car and the news came on just go station to station and boy was he right.

Bang Head

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Sep 5, 2016

Whoa, I had no idea. That's disgusting.

 

I gave up watching all TV news in the early 90's. Best mental health preserving decision I could have made.

Thumbs Upjejeje

bigbear29

And what if she is not sick?  Arizona, Texas and Georgia, Hillary and trump in a tie race.  These states are republican states.  What does that say?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 5, 2016

Have a question about eligibility of being PORTUS. If Ted Cruz is eligible, is Bindi Irwin the daughter of Steve Irwin eligible too?

Don't know what PORTUS is. If you mean POTUS, no. She's not old enough.

I don't know about her citizenship because I never cared.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 5, 2016

Have a question about eligibility of being PORTUS. If Ted Cruz is eligible, is Bindi Irwin the daughter of Steve Irwin eligible too?

Not sure what point you are even attempting to make. Both Steve Irwin and his daughter Bindi were born in Australia and citizens of that country. Ted Cruz was born in Canada but his parents were already U.S. citizens.

Your question is on par with someone asking whether a child born in Korea, to Korean citizens can become POTUS. 

You are losing it Stack and I highly suggest you seek out counseling.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 5, 2016

Another thing, trump is having a twitter war with the president Mexico.  Is that presidential?

New information age, I am sure that if twitter had been around in the 60s we would have seen similar stuff.

Maybe this shows Trump is staying up with the times.  I guess when we consider what it cost for a president

to travel in air force one plus all the other stuff that's included I say why not.  Do a little research into what the

cost was for Obama's trip to Africa. 

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/28/president-obamas-africa-trip-cost-taxpayers-nearly-6-million-dollars/

 

Obama family vacations

http://nationalreport.net/obama-family-vacations-surpass-100-million/

 

Meanwhile in Chicago

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-violence-labor-day-tuesday-20160906-story.html

 

Trump using twitter, priceless.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 5, 2016

RL,

Not  only might they not now that Lincoln was a Republican but he said that if he could have ended the war without ending slavery he would have done it. 

Also, 'long story short', take a good look at the flag of Liberia.

I know this will draw a lot of fire, but I think Lincoln caused many of the race problems we are still facing today. 

The industrial revolution could have ended slavery without a shot being fired and prevented many of the ills that

we are dealing with today.   By the mid 1800s the industrial revolution was primed to explode and if the leaders

of the day had seen the light, well I think it's clear what could of happened.   The fight to end slavery started way

before Lincoln became president, it first began when we became a independent sovereign nation.     

RL

bigbear29

You have an excuse for everything!  Twitter has been around for years and not one government person has been fighting a president of another place with twitter.  It's not presidential and why would the president of Mexico meet with trump again.  trump is acting like a CHILD!

bigbear29

Prejudice and greed caused a lot of the problems of today.  Not Lincoln!

We have aways been a prejudice country.  Look at trump and his dad, putting the letter "c" on rental applications to state colored for black person/hispanic.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 6, 2016

Don't know what PORTUS is. If you mean POTUS, no. She's not old enough.

I don't know about her citizenship because I never cared.

Excuse me for assuming someone living in Texas knows the basics about their U.S. Senator.

"She's not old enough. I don't know about her citizenship because I never cared. "

Age is irrelevant considering neither her nor Cruz is currently running for President.

But please continue with the Clinton bashing. Don't let me get in the way of your efforts to convince people to vote for Trump.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 6, 2016

You have an excuse for everything!  Twitter has been around for years and not one government person has been fighting a president of another place with twitter.  It's not presidential and why would the president of Mexico meet with trump again.  trump is acting like a CHILD!

Is it the substance of what he said that bothers you, or that it was put on twitter? 

 

I may not have seen the whole thing, but the lines I did see don't bother me at all.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Sep 6, 2016

Not sure what point you are even attempting to make. Both Steve Irwin and his daughter Bindi were born in Australia and citizens of that country. Ted Cruz was born in Canada but his parents were already U.S. citizens.

Your question is on par with someone asking whether a child born in Korea, to Korean citizens can become POTUS. 

You are losing it Stack and I highly suggest you seek out counseling.

I asked RC because they live in Texas and said something about voting for Cruz in the Republican Primary. I should ask Randomlogic or CT the same question.

"Ted Cruz was born in Canada but his parents were already U.S. citizens."

I can always count on you to be dead wrong. Rafael Cruz was born in Cuba, became a Canadian citizen in 1973 when Ted was three years old, and became a U.S. Citizen in 2005.

"Both Steve Irwin and his daughter Bindi were born in Australia and citizens of that country."

Congratulations for knowing Bindi and Ted's Dads were not U.S. citizens when they were born.

"Your question is on par with someone asking whether a child born in Korea, to Korean citizens can become POTUS."

That make no sense because Bindi and Ted's Moms were U.S. citizens when they were born.

"You are losing it Stack"

You didn't know Cruz' Dad wasn't a U.S. citizen at the time of Ted's birth and that Bindi's Mom was a U.S. citizen when she was born. Are you saying I'm "losing it" because of your ignorance, stupidity, or both?

It's not that difficult to google Rafael Cruz.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Sep 6, 2016

Is it the substance of what he said that bothers you, or that it was put on twitter? 

 

I may not have seen the whole thing, but the lines I did see don't bother me at all.

I won't speak for bear, but even the top Republican leadership (Ryan and McConnell) know based on Trump's childish Tweets and speech remarks say Trump doesn't have the temperament to be President. That being said, they still don't want Clinton to be President.

Have any news on the latest polls?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Aug 27, 2016

Obama's birth certificate has undergone forensic analysis and has been proved to be a forgery, this is a fact.

Hawaii Health Director, Loretta Ruddy was the only one of the 9 people who died in the plane crash.  Maybe

this was just a coincidence but at the very least it seems questionable.   Look at the name his mother first 

tried to use, why did she change it?

RL

Oh goody, finally found real life birthers.

Have a question about eligibility of becoming POTUS. If Ted Cruz is eligible, is Bindi Irwin the daughter of Steve Irwin eligible too?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 6, 2016

Prejudice and greed caused a lot of the problems of today.  Not Lincoln!

We have aways been a prejudice country.  Look at trump and his dad, putting the letter "c" on rental applications to state colored for black person/hispanic.

Forget about prejudice.  Lets call it racist.  BLACK CAUCUS, BLACK STUDENT UNIONS, BLACK THIS AND BLACK THAT, BLACK LIVES MATTER.  What race is racist here?  White people owe black people nothing!  About time they start lifting themselves up by their own bootstraps.  You agree?

bigbear29

Who said that white people owed black people anything!  "About time they start lifting themselves up by their own bootstraps.  You are a total A ss hole!

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 6, 2016

And what if she is not sick?  Arizona, Texas and Georgia, Hillary and trump in a tie race.  These states are republican states.  What does that say?

Oh yeah, she's the picture of perfect health!



Looks like she coughed up some lung meat at around :38.  It might have been a cricket, since there are some that think she's one of the Lizard People.

I'm not convinced those Texas polling numbers are accurate and I just saw a recent one that shows Trump up by 8 and another by 5. Then again, if the pollsters only polled a bunch of swarthy looking guys waiting for day work in front of Home Depot, then maybe that dead even poll is correct.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

This is not the first time the coughing fit has happened. 

 

BigBear

Here is a fact you may want to consider,  Overall, Blacks in America are doing worse than all other races.

Data suggest that the reason for this is a lack of Black owned businesses.   I don't have all the answers

but I see many Blacks that are very successful both in the private and business sectors.  I don't see the

successful people blaming anyone but many times I do see the poor shouting racism as the reason they

are poor.  To make matters worse we  do this in front of our kids.   This creates a cycle that will be very

hard to break.   The Bible says "Teach your kids while they are young and they will not depart far from it."

This works both ways.   I love it when I see anyone succeed in America regardless of race as it makes for

a better country. New businesses creates more jobs and more demand which helps everyone. 

RL

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 6, 2016

Excuse me for assuming someone living in Texas knows the basics about their U.S. Senator.

"She's not old enough. I don't know about her citizenship because I never cared. "

Age is irrelevant considering neither her nor Cruz is currently running for President.

But please continue with the Clinton bashing. Don't let me get in the way of your efforts to convince people to vote for Trump.

I voted for Trump in the primary.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 6, 2016

Oh goody, finally found real life birthers.

Have a question about eligibility of becoming POTUS. If Ted Cruz is eligible, is Bindi Irwin the daughter of Steve Irwin eligible too?

Who gives a rat's ass about Bindi? She not running. She's not old enough to run if she could.

And, in case you haven't heard, Cruz ain't running either.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 6, 2016

Who gives a rat's ass about Bindi? She not running. She's not old enough to run if she could.

And, in case you haven't heard, Cruz ain't running either.

Lol  Smokestack loves to throw out irrelevant info. The polls are getting to him.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 6, 2016

I asked RC because they live in Texas and said something about voting for Cruz in the Republican Primary. I should ask Randomlogic or CT the same question.

"Ted Cruz was born in Canada but his parents were already U.S. citizens."

I can always count on you to be dead wrong. Rafael Cruz was born in Cuba, became a Canadian citizen in 1973 when Ted was three years old, and became a U.S. Citizen in 2005.

"Both Steve Irwin and his daughter Bindi were born in Australia and citizens of that country."

Congratulations for knowing Bindi and Ted's Dads were not U.S. citizens when they were born.

"Your question is on par with someone asking whether a child born in Korea, to Korean citizens can become POTUS."

That make no sense because Bindi and Ted's Moms were U.S. citizens when they were born.

"You are losing it Stack"

You didn't know Cruz' Dad wasn't a U.S. citizen at the time of Ted's birth and that Bindi's Mom was a U.S. citizen when she was born. Are you saying I'm "losing it" because of your ignorance, stupidity, or both?

It's not that difficult to google Rafael Cruz.

I never said anything about voting for Cruz in the primary, and I didn't vote for him in the primary. My friends at work voted for him while I tried to convince them to vote for Trump.

They now like Trump because they see what a lying, crooked, a-hole Hilary is.

Really, your little bender about Bindi is odd. (Do you have a fetish for her?) I know what you are trying to convey, but you are really odd bringing her up in the conversation.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Sep 5, 2016

I heard her giving the interview in my car and she was having a coughing attack before I over heard someone saying get her water. Apparently the same scenario had happened earlier as well. I wish I could have seen it play out on TV to get an idea on how sick she looked. 

If she is as sick as people claim, this is karma finally catching up to her.

Except that no one with any knowledge of her publicly available medical records has ever claimed she was sick. Trump on the other hand has no publicly available medical records for which to use yo see anything about his health.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 6, 2016

Except that no one with any knowledge of her publicly available medical records has ever claimed she was sick. Trump on the other hand has no publicly available medical records for which to use yo see anything about his health.

Trump isn't hacking up a lung every time he speaks.

Maybe it's all those lies catching up to her.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 5, 2016

Have a question about eligibility of being PORTUS. If Ted Cruz is eligible, is Bindi Irwin the daughter of Steve Irwin eligible too?

The constitution has 3 requirements for President  1) Be at least 35. 2) Live in the US for 14 years. 3) Be a US citizen the second you are born. The whole "must be born on US soil" aspect is more tradition than legal requirement.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Sep 6, 2016

Not sure what point you are even attempting to make. Both Steve Irwin and his daughter Bindi were born in Australia and citizens of that country. Ted Cruz was born in Canada but his parents were already U.S. citizens.

Your question is on par with someone asking whether a child born in Korea, to Korean citizens can become POTUS. 

You are losing it Stack and I highly suggest you seek out counseling.

Incorrect, Rafael Cruz did not become a US citizen until 2005.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 6, 2016

Trump isn't hacking up a lung every time he speaks.

Maybe it's all those lies catching up to her.

God works in mysterious ways.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Sep 6, 2016

God works in mysterious ways.

Read Drudge. Who is her handler?  Who is running the show?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Sep 6, 2016

God works in mysterious ways.

sully

Have you seen this.  I don't know anything about this guy but it would be nice if it's true.

RL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqwFWD_Htfo

Artist77's avatarArtist77

We are at the end. If Hillary wins, we are lost.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Sep 6, 2016

sully

Have you seen this.  I don't know anything about this guy but it would be nice if it's true.

RL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqwFWD_Htfo

That was interesting, I have heard many people say, Revelations , time to choose.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 6, 2016

I asked RC because they live in Texas and said something about voting for Cruz in the Republican Primary. I should ask Randomlogic or CT the same question.

"Ted Cruz was born in Canada but his parents were already U.S. citizens."

I can always count on you to be dead wrong. Rafael Cruz was born in Cuba, became a Canadian citizen in 1973 when Ted was three years old, and became a U.S. Citizen in 2005.

"Both Steve Irwin and his daughter Bindi were born in Australia and citizens of that country."

Congratulations for knowing Bindi and Ted's Dads were not U.S. citizens when they were born.

"Your question is on par with someone asking whether a child born in Korea, to Korean citizens can become POTUS."

That make no sense because Bindi and Ted's Moms were U.S. citizens when they were born.

"You are losing it Stack"

You didn't know Cruz' Dad wasn't a U.S. citizen at the time of Ted's birth and that Bindi's Mom was a U.S. citizen when she was born. Are you saying I'm "losing it" because of your ignorance, stupidity, or both?

It's not that difficult to google Rafael Cruz.

It was mighty convenient of you to leave out Ted Cruz's mother as she was a US citizen at the time Ted was born. This is the same requirement that gave Obama's mother had when he was born.

You are losing it because you are bringing up nitpick details in an effort to give yourself brownie points. Most of us here already realize that you have major psychological issues and this just proves it.

Go take your meds as it will clear that fog in between your ears and please stay away from kiddy porn as your infatuation with Bindi is nauseating and morbid.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 6, 2016

Incorrect, Rafael Cruz did not become a US citizen until 2005.

The only thing relevant is that Ted Cruz's mother was a US citizen when he was born.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 6, 2016

I voted for Trump in the primary.

You said that and something about someone voting for Cruz. It's no big deal because Cruz won the primary and the Dallas Morning News is saying "Trump does not deserve your vote."

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 6, 2016

Who gives a rat's ass about Bindi? She not running. She's not old enough to run if she could.

And, in case you haven't heard, Cruz ain't running either.

That was to Randomlogic, but by all means jump in with your birther theory.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 6, 2016

I never said anything about voting for Cruz in the primary, and I didn't vote for him in the primary. My friends at work voted for him while I tried to convince them to vote for Trump.

They now like Trump because they see what a lying, crooked, a-hole Hilary is.

Really, your little bender about Bindi is odd. (Do you have a fetish for her?) I know what you are trying to convey, but you are really odd bringing her up in the conversation.

Go back and read what I said.

"Really, your little bender about Bindi is odd. (Do you have a fetish for her?)"

Why are most of the Trump supporters so stupid?

"but you are really odd bringing her up in the conversation."

Because at least three Brithers commented on Obama birth in this thread, but not one of them commented on Ted Cruz' birth circumstances. It's a fact Cruz was born in Canada to an American Mother and the same under the same circumstances as Bindi Irwin.

It's like having a conversation in a nursing home. Someone actually said Rafael Cruz was a U.S. citizen in 1970. Is Google that difficult of a search engine?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 6, 2016

The constitution has 3 requirements for President  1) Be at least 35. 2) Live in the US for 14 years. 3) Be a US citizen the second you are born. The whole "must be born on US soil" aspect is more tradition than legal requirement.

It's "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution". Some people believe that means born in the USA or a territory like Barry Goldwater or in at a U.S. military base like John McCain, others believe both parents must be American citizens, and still others say at least one parent.

IMO, I doubt we'll ever see a foreign born President.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Sep 6, 2016

sully

Have you seen this.  I don't know anything about this guy but it would be nice if it's true.

RL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqwFWD_Htfo

Good find.

Try this one too;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYLuCdSY_H4

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Sep 6, 2016

It was mighty convenient of you to leave out Ted Cruz's mother as she was a US citizen at the time Ted was born. This is the same requirement that gave Obama's mother had when he was born.

You are losing it because you are bringing up nitpick details in an effort to give yourself brownie points. Most of us here already realize that you have major psychological issues and this just proves it.

Go take your meds as it will clear that fog in between your ears and please stay away from kiddy porn as your infatuation with Bindi is nauseating and morbid.

"It was mighty convenient of you to leave out Ted Cruz's mother as she was a US citizen at the time Ted was born."

Even though my question wasn't addressed to you, do some research next time before trying to answer. The reason I used Bindi Irwin was because she was at the top of the "people in the news" list; probably because it was the anniversary of Steve Irwin's death. Her mother is a U.S. born citizen just like Ted Cruz.

"You are losing it because you are bringing up nitpick details in an effort to give yourself brownie points."

You made a fool of yourself by saying "Ted Cruz was born in Canada but his parents were already U.S. citizens", but now trying to hide your ignorance by calling any reference to it "nit-picking".

"Most of us here already realize that you have major psychological issues and this just proves it."

Speaking of having issues, I could show several examples of you criticizing how jackpot winners spend their money. Which part of "it's none of your business" how other people spend their own money is confusing you?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 6, 2016

You said that and something about someone voting for Cruz. It's no big deal because Cruz won the primary and the Dallas Morning News is saying "Trump does not deserve your vote."

The DMN is a rag that I never read, and frankly, Hilary is the one that doesn't "deserve your vote".

Instead of talking about Bindi...talk about all the stuff Hilary has done and still managed to stay out of jail. The emails, Benghazi, the lies, all those people that crossed her and Bill that are dead (suicide? really?). No....you want to talk about Bindi Irwin because of the birther issue. LOL. It really looks like you have some kind of crush on her.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Sep 6, 2016

That was interesting, I have heard many people say, Revelations , time to choose.

I have quite a different view of end times than the Church in general.   Most of the stuff we hear about

is at best, loosely based on scripture.  The truth IMHO is far more interesting.

RL

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

What else could this be talking about if not a nuclear attack?

Now this will be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the peoples who have gone to war against Jerusalem; their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, and their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongue will rot in their mouth.

Zechariah 14:12

NASB

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 7, 2016

The DMN is a rag that I never read, and frankly, Hilary is the one that doesn't "deserve your vote".

Instead of talking about Bindi...talk about all the stuff Hilary has done and still managed to stay out of jail. The emails, Benghazi, the lies, all those people that crossed her and Bill that are dead (suicide? really?). No....you want to talk about Bindi Irwin because of the birther issue. LOL. It really looks like you have some kind of crush on her.

You said that and something about someone voting for Cruz. It's no big deal because Cruz won the primary and the Dallas Morning News is saying "Trump does not deserve your vote."

"Instead of talking about Bindi"

I never mentioned either Clinton or Irwin in that post. Are you hallucinating, drunk, or just confused? 

"The DMN is a rag that I never read,"

How can you possibly know the "DMN is rag" if you never read it?

I'll guess I'll have to find the post where you said something about someone (not you) voting for Cruz in the Texas primary, but at the end of the day Trump lost badly in Texas. Do most of the people you vote for lose their elections?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 7, 2016

It's "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution". Some people believe that means born in the USA or a territory like Barry Goldwater or in at a U.S. military base like John McCain, others believe both parents must be American citizens, and still others say at least one parent.

IMO, I doubt we'll ever see a foreign born President.

We almost did. Thankfully though, the ONLY non- Christian Sharia law candidate running in the Republican primary managed to win. 

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 7, 2016

What else could this be talking about if not a nuclear attack?

Now this will be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the peoples who have gone to war against Jerusalem; their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, and their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongue will rot in their mouth.

Zechariah 14:12

NASB

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 6, 2016

Who said that white people owed black people anything!  "About time they start lifting themselves up by their own bootstraps.  You are a total A ss hole!

Liberal democrats.  You living in a cocoon or something?  Never heard of reparations?  No, I'm not an A ss hole.  Are you?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 7, 2016

Liberal democrats.  You living in a cocoon or something?  Never heard of reparations?  No, I'm not an A ss hole.  Are you?

The most important reason to vote for Trump.  Supreme Court justices.  Case closed.

bigbear29

You need to get your head out of your A ss you total LOSER!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 7, 2016

You need to get your head out of your A ss you total LOSER!

The truth hurts huh fat boy?

bigbear29

I can't stand your RACIST A ss!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

LOL!  Blacks are racists, Mexicans are racists, why can't white people disagree with their agenda?  If that makes me a racist... Who cares?  I don't.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 7, 2016

I can't stand your RACIST A ss!

Poor baby.  If you can't stand try sitting down, as if you don't do that all day anyway.   Get a job fat boy.

bigbear29

I have a job, moron!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 7, 2016

I have a job, moron!

And what is that?  Posting on the internet?  LOL.   You're not going to tell me you're a design engineer again are you?  What do you design?   Ha!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 7, 2016

We almost did. Thankfully though, the ONLY non- Christian Sharia law candidate running in the Republican primary managed to win. 

Back in the day I posted on religious and political message boards, but found LP and really enjoy the lottery related discussions. I'd rather be playing golf but it's over 90 again today.

They hate the fact Obama was elected, re-elected President, and his approval rating is over 50% so now it's Clinton turn to hear their wrath. It doesn't matter if their candidate was a Canadian, an Australian, or even the Prince of Monaco. And even thought it's obvious they are preaching to the choir, they will say anything against Hillary, mostly false hoping somehow Trump will win.

Considering what the First Amendment says, I still can't understand why the President's religion is an issue. But we also have people calling a newspaper they say "that they never read" a rag, it's really not unreasonable to expect them to hate someone when they don't even know why they hate them.

bigbear29

I done military stuff down to tablets, printers and other hi-tech designs.  What do you do for a living?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

salon.com, seriously?

That article had absolutely nothing to do with the verse in Zechariah, nice attempted diversion though.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 7, 2016

I done military stuff down to tablets, printers and other hi-tech designs.  What do you do for a living?

Of you really "done" military stuff, you would not be allowed to post about it At All. Lol

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 7, 2016

salon.com, seriously?

That article had absolutely nothing to do with the verse in Zechariah, nice attempted diversion though.

I Agree!

Salon is a favorite go to blog for progressives, they make up their own fictional talking points and attempt to pass it off as fact.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 7, 2016

I done military stuff down to tablets, printers and other hi-tech designs.  What do you do for a living?

You done military stuff?  LOL!  English please.  I'm a union Ironworker, local 8 Milwaukee.  BTW the International might support Hillary but we sure the hell don't.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 7, 2016

salon.com, seriously?

That article had absolutely nothing to do with the verse in Zechariah, nice attempted diversion though.

You posted a bible verse. I'm merely pointing out a few more. It's as relevant to the topic as your post.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Sep 7, 2016

I Agree!

Salon is a favorite go to blog for progressives, they make up their own fictional talking points and attempt to pass it off as fact.

You're free to pick up a bible and see whether they made any of them up. Hint: They're all in there as reported.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 7, 2016

Of you really "done" military stuff, you would not be allowed to post about it At All. Lol

If*, at*, all*.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 7, 2016

If*, at*, all*.

Are you still living in your 'rents basement? Get a job.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 7, 2016

salon.com, seriously?

That article had absolutely nothing to do with the verse in Zechariah, nice attempted diversion though.

And where in your verse from Zechariah does it mention betting on the Presidential election?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 7, 2016

You said that and something about someone voting for Cruz. It's no big deal because Cruz won the primary and the Dallas Morning News is saying "Trump does not deserve your vote."

"Instead of talking about Bindi"

I never mentioned either Clinton or Irwin in that post. Are you hallucinating, drunk, or just confused? 

"The DMN is a rag that I never read,"

How can you possibly know the "DMN is rag" if you never read it?

I'll guess I'll have to find the post where you said something about someone (not you) voting for Cruz in the Texas primary, but at the end of the day Trump lost badly in Texas. Do most of the people you vote for lose their elections?

You are the one who brought up Bindi. You ARE the ONE who introduced her into the conversation.

I didn't say I never have read the DMN, I said I never read it, as in anymore...because I don't read a newspaper from Dallas. I live in the Fort Worth area and I'm interested in the Fort Worth area. And yes, there is a difference.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 7, 2016

You're free to pick up a bible and see whether they made any of them up. Hint: They're all in there as reported.

God gave the 10 commandments and most of the other laws were adopted from existing cultures.

One of the 10 commandments says thou shall not kill, the Israelites had to write sub laws to cover

things like man slaughter etc....  Much of the Levitical law deals with purity and not sin as many think

of sin today such as a woman's menstrual cycle.  I looked at the link you posted and as I expected

many of these are without context.   Jesus made a whip and drove the money changers out of the

temple.   I know about all those so called 11 kinds of Bible verses Christians love to ignore but I am

not one of them, I would love to go head to head with anyone. 

RL

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Just an observation, a few people posting in this thread are on my block list, so what I see are multiple consecutive posts by the same poster all nice and tidy and compact. NWRJAN - not worth reading, just another nut.  Smile

How is that not spam or at least a bush league attempt at padding one's post count?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 6, 2016

rcbuckeye, Drenick1, ArizonaDream,

Thanks. 

I used to be on the road a lot and remember a guy om radio saying that stations used to have their own persona and view of stories but at some point all the news was coming from one source and echoed on every station. 

He said next time you were in your car and the news came on just go station to station and boy was he right.

Bang Head

This is why I don't watch news on tv, especially national news. They all report the same thing, and they all report what they want you to hear.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 8, 2016

Just an observation, a few people posting in this thread are on my block list, so what I see are multiple consecutive posts by the same poster all nice and tidy and compact. NWRJAN - not worth reading, just another nut.  Smile

How is that not spam or at least a bush league attempt at padding one's post count?

Yeah, here too. Sometimes all I see is like a stack of pancakes..one on top of the other. All condensed and 

sealed...a nice, tidy little option Todd has here.

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 8, 2016

Just an observation, a few people posting in this thread are on my block list, so what I see are multiple consecutive posts by the same poster all nice and tidy and compact. NWRJAN - not worth reading, just another nut.  Smile

How is that not spam or at least a bush league attempt at padding one's post count?

I guess I haven't been here long enough to get annoyed with anybody yet. I am sure it will surface in due time.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 7, 2016

You are the one who brought up Bindi. You ARE the ONE who introduced her into the conversation.

I didn't say I never have read the DMN, I said I never read it, as in anymore...because I don't read a newspaper from Dallas. I live in the Fort Worth area and I'm interested in the Fort Worth area. And yes, there is a difference.

"What we have here is a failure to communicate"

If you didn't know why I brought up Irwin, why didn't you just ask or better yet, not respond?

And why not just say you don't read the DMN anymore?

I thought you remarked on one of our resident Brither's post so I asked you about Presidential eligibility. If you didn't remark on the Birther garbage, you could have just ignored my post but noooooooooooooo, you had to start "trash talking" and I answered in kind.

IMO the real problem with our discussion (you and me) and all posts in this thread in general is the thrash talking.  When I mentioned the Dallas Morning News is endorsing Clinton, you called that paper "a rag" as you would probably call any newspaper endorsing Clinton "a rag". What you obviously don't know is the DMN hasn't endorsed a Democrat for President in 76 years and that includes Lyndon Johnson.

Last night Trump said our military generals "have been reduced to rubble" and when asked how he would fight ISIS, Trump said "they’d probably be different generals, to be honest with you." yet you call a newspaper "a rag" that for those and many other reasons for the first time in 76 years suggests that their readers not vote for a Republican; Trump.

I'll make a prediction, you and others will continue to ignore the many obvious downsides of Trump and continue the childish trash talking.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

I said it before and I'll say it again.  This election boils down to Supreme Court appointees.  Personally, I think SCOTUS has way too much power, more than the President or Congress.  They can overturn anything at a whim.  Trump = Right.  Hillary = Left.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 8, 2016

I said it before and I'll say it again.  This election boils down to Supreme Court appointees.  Personally, I think SCOTUS has way too much power, more than the President or Congress.  They can overturn anything at a whim.  Trump = Right.  Hillary = Left.

"Personally, I think SCOTUS has way too much power, more than the President or Congress."

The Justices have the same power today as they had when the Constitution was ratified 229 years ago. Do you have an example of the SCOTUS exercising more power than given by the Constitution or more than Congress or the President?

Article III spells out their duties.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 8, 2016

I said it before and I'll say it again.  This election boils down to Supreme Court appointees.  Personally, I think SCOTUS has way too much power, more than the President or Congress.  They can overturn anything at a whim.  Trump = Right.  Hillary = Left.

Liberals say it doesn't matter who is on the Supreme Court and it's not that powerful.....yet they freak when a conservative is appointed.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 9, 2016

Liberals say it doesn't matter who is on the Supreme Court and it's not that powerful.....yet they freak when a conservative is appointed.

BS alert!!

"Liberals say it doesn't matter who is on the Supreme Court and it's not that powerful"

But you won't or can't quote the "Liberal" saying that?

"yet they freak when a conservative is appointed."

A Democrat Senator saying "the W. Bush White House was trying to create the most ideological bench in the history of the nation" when Alito were nominated isn't exactly "freaking out". Freaking out is when Mitch McConnell wants to change the Constitution by saying The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president." And it can't get more liberal than suggesting the conformation of a Supreme Court Justice should be done by a national referendum. 

Coin Toss must be ignorant of the fact only two Court conformations were made during a Republican administration in the last 24 years and one, Chief Justice John Roberts Jr. actually got 78% of the vote. These type of comments justifies why pollsters are saying Trump is holding up pretty well in the places where there aren’t very many well-educated white voters.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 9, 2016

BS alert!!

"Liberals say it doesn't matter who is on the Supreme Court and it's not that powerful"

But you won't or can't quote the "Liberal" saying that?

"yet they freak when a conservative is appointed."

A Democrat Senator saying "the W. Bush White House was trying to create the most ideological bench in the history of the nation" when Alito were nominated isn't exactly "freaking out". Freaking out is when Mitch McConnell wants to change the Constitution by saying The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president." And it can't get more liberal than suggesting the conformation of a Supreme Court Justice should be done by a national referendum. 

Coin Toss must be ignorant of the fact only two Court conformations were made during a Republican administration in the last 24 years and one, Chief Justice John Roberts Jr. actually got 78% of the vote. These type of comments justifies why pollsters are saying Trump is holding up pretty well in the places where there aren’t very many well-educated white voters.

"Only two Court conformations were made during a Republican administration in the last 24 years"

I guess you enjoy concealing the facts that in the past 24 years, a republican administration has only been in office for 8 of those years. 

Boy,  your sure love to manipulate the facts in order to push through your narrative. Sounds like you have  the aptitude to be a mainstream journalist.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 7, 2016

Are you still living in your 'rents basement? Get a job.

Rents basement? Sounds expensive and European LOL

Old people (35+) act like getting a job is easy, it's not. One of my old professors has been in my college since the 90's and he told me how people were landing $100,000 jobs in their junior year that would be there when they graduated with like $20,000 in loans or some other insanely low amount. Those times are gone, 8 years of Bush has destroyed this country and Obama has continued those nonsensical right wing fantasy ideas.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 8, 2016

Just an observation, a few people posting in this thread are on my block list, so what I see are multiple consecutive posts by the same poster all nice and tidy and compact. NWRJAN - not worth reading, just another nut.  Smile

How is that not spam or at least a bush league attempt at padding one's post count?

The difference between an adult and a child, an adult is willing and able to be challenged on their ideas, a child just insults and/or ignores anything they don't want to hear.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Sep 9, 2016

"Only two Court conformations were made during a Republican administration in the last 24 years"

I guess you enjoy concealing the facts that in the past 24 years, a republican administration has only been in office for 8 of those years. 

Boy,  your sure love to manipulate the facts in order to push through your narrative. Sounds like you have  the aptitude to be a mainstream journalist.

I suppose I could have went back 28 years, but Clarence Thomas' sexual harassment hearings were bi-partisan. Because you decided to comment, can you explain how Coin Toss came to the conclusion "yet they freak when a conservative is appointed." when only four conservatives were appointed in the last 28 years and all were confirmed?

"I guess you enjoy concealing the facts that in the past 24 years, a republican administration has only been in office for 8 of those years."

If a reader doesn't know that, they shouldn't be in this discussion. Who did I conceal those facts from, the village idiot?

"Boy,  your sure love to manipulate the facts in order to push through your narrative."

Nope, it's called researching the subject; try it sometime and maybe you'll look more intelligent than a rock.

"Sounds like you have  the aptitude to be a mainstream journalist."

That's much better than the typical trash-talking Trump supporters.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 9, 2016

The difference between an adult and a child, an adult is willing and able to be challenged on their ideas, a child just insults and/or ignores anything they don't want to hear.

Coin Toss has fun childishly marking on play slips to aggravate real lottery players.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 9, 2016

Rents basement? Sounds expensive and European LOL

Old people (35+) act like getting a job is easy, it's not. One of my old professors has been in my college since the 90's and he told me how people were landing $100,000 jobs in their junior year that would be there when they graduated with like $20,000 in loans or some other insanely low amount. Those times are gone, 8 years of Bush has destroyed this country and Obama has continued those nonsensical right wing fantasy ideas.

What did Bush do to destroy this country?   And you think 35+ is old?  LOL!  Tell me that when you reach 40.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 9, 2016

The difference between an adult and a child, an adult is willing and able to be challenged on their ideas, a child just insults and/or ignores anything they don't want to hear.

Adults who think every post made is directed at them need to put their mega egos in park and stop acting so childlike.

Lately there are far too many jail house lawyers posting.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 9, 2016

Adults who think every post made is directed at them need to put their mega egos in park and stop acting so childlike.

Lately there are far too many jail house lawyers posting.

But Stack of lies thinks he has a great legal mind with his professorial antics and contradictions. Yet he has no job. Hmmmmm Delusions of grandeur.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 9, 2016

But Stack of lies thinks he has a great legal mind with his professorial antics and contradictions. Yet he has no job. Hmmmmm Delusions of grandeur.

Well, he loves to contort everything someone says to try to make himself look smart. He really looks and sounds rather foolish.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 9, 2016

Rents basement? Sounds expensive and European LOL

Old people (35+) act like getting a job is easy, it's not. One of my old professors has been in my college since the 90's and he told me how people were landing $100,000 jobs in their junior year that would be there when they graduated with like $20,000 in loans or some other insanely low amount. Those times are gone, 8 years of Bush has destroyed this country and Obama has continued those nonsensical right wing fantasy ideas.

Stop blaming others for your failures. I have a work colleague with 4 children from 17 years old to 23 years old. All received full scholarships and one turned down Harvard because she would have left school with a lot of debt. The oldest made $100,000 within one year of graduation...last year. I know many other examples. Perhaps you do poorly at interviews. I can spot a slacker a mile away.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 9, 2016

Well, he loves to contort everything someone says to try to make himself look smart. He really looks and sounds rather foolish.

But he thinks he is a genius. Lol

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 9, 2016

Coin Toss has fun childishly marking on play slips to aggravate real lottery players.

Really sad and desperate. Smoke stack get a job. Pay your bills.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 9, 2016

Rents basement? Sounds expensive and European LOL

Old people (35+) act like getting a job is easy, it's not. One of my old professors has been in my college since the 90's and he told me how people were landing $100,000 jobs in their junior year that would be there when they graduated with like $20,000 in loans or some other insanely low amount. Those times are gone, 8 years of Bush has destroyed this country and Obama has continued those nonsensical right wing fantasy ideas.

I hope that prof didn't tell you that $100,000 jobs right out of college were the norm, they weren't.  Far from it for the majority of students.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Sep 9, 2016

I hope that prof didn't tell you that $100,000 jobs right out of college were the norm, they weren't.  Far from it for the majority of students.

I agree. He wants to whine and have things handed to him.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 9, 2016

What did Bush do to destroy this country?   And you think 35+ is old?  LOL!  Tell me that when you reach 40.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2010/08/americas_peculiar_amnesia.html

He turned a surplus into a monstrous deficit. 

i need a term to distinguish those of us 18-34 and the older people.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 9, 2016

Stop blaming others for your failures. I have a work colleague with 4 children from 17 years old to 23 years old. All received full scholarships and one turned down Harvard because she would have left school with a lot of debt. The oldest made $100,000 within one year of graduation...last year. I know many other examples. Perhaps you do poorly at interviews. I can spot a slacker a mile away.

Not everyone gets full scholarships lol. You are living in a fantasy world if you really think that's a normal outcome. 

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 9, 2016

I agree. He wants to whine and have things handed to him.

https://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/tuition-and-fees-and-room-and-board-over-time-1975-76-2015-16-selected-years

The people born between 1945 and 1980 have had everything handed to them and now they whine like extreme babies whenever those us born after 1980 want 1/1000000000000th of what they took for granted.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 9, 2016

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2010/08/americas_peculiar_amnesia.html

He turned a surplus into a monstrous deficit. 

i need a term to distinguish those of us 18-34 and the older people.

You are totally brainwashed. Obama has ran the debt up to almost $20  trillion and has spent more money than all the previous presidents combined. 

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 9, 2016

Really sad and desperate. Smoke stack get a job. Pay your bills.

That's an odd thing to say considering you can't afford a Premium membership. Maybe you can solicit you're good friends on LP to chip in so you can purchase a Gold members for one month. You're probably posting from a public library or do you frequent motel and hotel PCs? 

Show some class, don't be cheap, and purchase a Premium Membership; you'll be glad you did.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 9, 2016

Well, he loves to contort everything someone says to try to make himself look smart. He really looks and sounds rather foolish.

"Well, he loves to contort everything someone says to try to make himself look smart."

Actually I just point out things that people like you say so it's your own fault if you look stupid. Nobody can make up a story about an adult doing stuff like childishly marking on play slips and "put it back in the slot for that game".

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 10, 2016

That's an odd thing to say considering you can't afford a Premium membership. Maybe you can solicit you're good friends on LP to chip in so you can purchase a Gold members for one month. You're probably posting from a public library or do you frequent motel and hotel PCs? 

Show some class, don't be cheap, and purchase a Premium Membership; you'll be glad you did.

Get a job. Everyone views you as a fake and a nut. You have the time to use premium member tools. I do not at the moment. I doubt you understand a career and being involved in your community.  I bet my net worth is more than you will ever have. I think you resent how well I do in Maddog's pb and mm contests. You are too chicken to participate because your lottery picks are a joke.

I love how you question my commitment to LP. Loser. You have nothing going on in your life.

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 9, 2016

https://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/tuition-and-fees-and-room-and-board-over-time-1975-76-2015-16-selected-years

The people born between 1945 and 1980 have had everything handed to them and now they whine like extreme babies whenever those us born after 1980 want 1/1000000000000th of what they took for granted.

YOU POS ! Thumbs Down

I have been busting my azz since I was 14 Y/O and have had nothing handed to me.

My 2 youngest nephews fall into your age group, I'm glad they don't have your attitude.

 

MikeinTexas, DR65 and many others here have tried to talk some sense into you,

looks like they wasted their time.

 

 

Don't bother replying to this, I'm done reading your stupid posts !  Puke

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by haymaker on Sep 10, 2016

YOU POS ! Thumbs Down

I have been busting my azz since I was 14 Y/O and have had nothing handed to me.

My 2 youngest nephews fall into your age group, I'm glad they don't have your attitude.

 

MikeinTexas, DR65 and many others here have tried to talk some sense into you,

looks like they wasted their time.

 

 

Don't bother replying to this, I'm done reading your stupid posts !  Puke

Haymaker, I have a feeling he was probably ranked last in his college class and spent 4 years or more partying. Unlike some of us who made certain we were involved in leadership opportunities in school and summer jobs and internships. I am sure his "resume" ends up in the trash every time. He will never convey a "can do" attitude.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 9, 2016

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2010/08/americas_peculiar_amnesia.html

He turned a surplus into a monstrous deficit. 

i need a term to distinguish those of us 18-34 and the older people.

Really? who are you attempting to kid?

Obama is the spender in chief as he has double our national debt and out spent ALL the previous presidents combined.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 10, 2016

That's an odd thing to say considering you can't afford a Premium membership. Maybe you can solicit you're good friends on LP to chip in so you can purchase a Gold members for one month. You're probably posting from a public library or do you frequent motel and hotel PCs? 

Show some class, don't be cheap, and purchase a Premium Membership; you'll be glad you did.

What is your fascination about belittling those who don't have a premium membership? Have you ever thought that perhaps some folks have no need for all the special features that the premium membership offers?

Insinuating that she's posting from a public library or a motel PC is despicable but coming from you it doesn't surprise any of us.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Sep 10, 2016

What is your fascination about belittling those who don't have a premium membership? Have you ever thought that perhaps some folks have no need for all the special features that the premium membership offers?

Insinuating that she's posting from a public library or a motel PC is despicable but coming from you it doesn't surprise any of us.

He thinks he is gaining points with Todd so he does not go to the land of no avatar for his other antics. ROFL

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 10, 2016

Haymaker, I have a feeling he was probably ranked last in his college class and spent 4 years or more partying. Unlike some of us who made certain we were involved in leadership opportunities in school and summer jobs and internships. I am sure his "resume" ends up in the trash every time. He will never convey a "can do" attitude.

LMAO !

"4 years or more partying"

 

Reminds me of the movie Tommyboy.

Tommy: Richard, lots of people go to college for 7 years.

Richard: yeah I know, they're called Doctors. LOL

 

But unlike Tommboy,  kingofdearth won't save the day by the end of the story !

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by haymaker on Sep 10, 2016

LMAO !

"4 years or more partying"

 

Reminds me of the movie Tommyboy.

Tommy: Richard, lots of people go to college for 7 years.

Richard: yeah I know, they're called Doctors. LOL

 

But unlike Tommboy,  kingofdearth won't save the day by the end of the story !

Lol Yea I figured he was on "the 7 year plan."

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Sep 10, 2016

What is your fascination about belittling those who don't have a premium membership? Have you ever thought that perhaps some folks have no need for all the special features that the premium membership offers?

Insinuating that she's posting from a public library or a motel PC is despicable but coming from you it doesn't surprise any of us.

"What is your fascination about belittling those who don't have a premium membership?"

Here is just one example of what the you claim I'm belittling said about me.

"I love how you question my commitment to LP. Loser. You have nothing going on in your life"

And I can show you plenty more examples of insults and a few where you belittled people too. Better yet I'll show them what their "best friend on LP" had to say about "the non-Premium member cheapskates".

If nothing else, Premium memberships support the site.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 9, 2016

https://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/tuition-and-fees-and-room-and-board-over-time-1975-76-2015-16-selected-years

The people born between 1945 and 1980 have had everything handed to them and now they whine like extreme babies whenever those us born after 1980 want 1/1000000000000th of what they took for granted.

I'd like to know what people in that age group had handed to them?  Back then we had no personal computers, no internet, no smart phones and no college "safe spaces".  You really want to talk about an age group that has everything handed to them on a silver platter?  BTY back then, we had a work ethic, something the younger generation doesn't seem to have.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Sep 10, 2016

What is your fascination about belittling those who don't have a premium membership? Have you ever thought that perhaps some folks have no need for all the special features that the premium membership offers?

Insinuating that she's posting from a public library or a motel PC is despicable but coming from you it doesn't surprise any of us.

A lot of us believe smokestack had some sort of mental breakdown. He is mentally ill. You see the ongoing obsession with control and with a former member we liked and saying things, then saying he did not. He brings up Ridge constantly in these crazy stream of conciousness rants.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Just watched the video of Trump in the latest Florida rally.  He said Iranian boats harassing US warships in international waters will be sunk.  OMG its about time we had a President with balls!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 10, 2016

A lot of us believe smokestack had some sort of mental breakdown. He is mentally ill. You see the ongoing obsession with control and with a former member we liked and saying things, then saying he did not. He brings up Ridge constantly in these crazy stream of conciousness rants.

Don't call him smokestack, call him goober.  He earned it.

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 10, 2016

Just watched the video of Trump in the latest Florida rally.  He said Iranian boats harassing US warships in international waters will be sunk.  OMG its about time we had a President with balls!

I Agree! Just what we need. The days of drawing imaginary lines and having them breached I s over. We need a commander in chief not a sissy in chief.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 10, 2016

Don't call him smokestack, call him goober.  He earned it.

Lol lol

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 10, 2016

Just watched the video of Trump in the latest Florida rally.  He said Iranian boats harassing US warships in international waters will be sunk.  OMG its about time we had a President with balls!

I Agree!

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Sep 10, 2016

What is your fascination about belittling those who don't have a premium membership? Have you ever thought that perhaps some folks have no need for all the special features that the premium membership offers?

Insinuating that she's posting from a public library or a motel PC is despicable but coming from you it doesn't surprise any of us.

Im Stacks twisted mind posting rules, such as No Personal Attacks, and then telling Artist she can't afford a premium membership is not contradictory. 

Perhaps the truth is more like Stack can't afford the mental health counseling he so desperately needs.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by haymaker on Sep 10, 2016

YOU POS ! Thumbs Down

I have been busting my azz since I was 14 Y/O and have had nothing handed to me.

My 2 youngest nephews fall into your age group, I'm glad they don't have your attitude.

 

MikeinTexas, DR65 and many others here have tried to talk some sense into you,

looks like they wasted their time.

 

 

Don't bother replying to this, I'm done reading your stupid posts !  Puke

I'm done wasting my time talking to stackass.

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 10, 2016

Just watched the video of Trump in the latest Florida rally.  He said Iranian boats harassing US warships in international waters will be sunk.  OMG its about time we had a President with balls!

I Agree! Hillary would want our men to invite these Iranian boats over for prayers while a President Trump won't allow our forces to be mocked or threatened. He'll give them one warning and after that it's their own fault if they harass or threaten a US warship.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 9, 2016

https://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/tuition-and-fees-and-room-and-board-over-time-1975-76-2015-16-selected-years

The people born between 1945 and 1980 have had everything handed to them and now they whine like extreme babies whenever those us born after 1980 want 1/1000000000000th of what they took for granted.

  I was born between the years of 1945 and 1951.... and let me tell you... I have NEVER had anything handed to me... what I have today is bought and paid for by me.. and it feels  DAM GOOD to know I worked for what I have and didn't take any handouts...  if I couldn't pay for it I did without it... and I felt very proud of what I have today cause I know I don't owe anyone anything...and my children were raised the same way... I am very proud of them and how they are doing in this world today .... and if someone was in a bad situation and I helped them I didn't mind cause I know what it was like to be in a bad situation... what comes around goes around...

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Hillary Clinton collapsed at the 911 ceremony in NYC today.  She has serious medical problems.  She's unfit to serve as President.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 10, 2016

Im Stacks twisted mind posting rules, such as No Personal Attacks, and then telling Artist she can't afford a premium membership is not contradictory. 

Perhaps the truth is more like Stack can't afford the mental health counseling he so desperately needs.

"Im Stacks twisted mind posting rules, such as No Personal Attacks, and then telling Artist she can't afford a premium membership is not contradictory."

I can only guess at what Coin Toss is trying to say, but if they are saying I'm personally attacking Artist by suggesting they buy a Premium membership, CT's reading comprehension is worse than their grammar and sentence structure. Did somebody catch you placing marked play slips back in the bins and throw you out of the store.? Did you land on your head?

Didn't Coin Toss say several times now they blocked my posts?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 11, 2016

"Im Stacks twisted mind posting rules, such as No Personal Attacks, and then telling Artist she can't afford a premium membership is not contradictory."

I can only guess at what Coin Toss is trying to say, but if they are saying I'm personally attacking Artist by suggesting they buy a Premium membership, CT's reading comprehension is worse than their grammar and sentence structure. Did somebody catch you placing marked play slips back in the bins and throw you out of the store.? Did you land on your head?

Didn't Coin Toss say several times now they blocked my posts?

First let's talk about reading comprehension, I was replying to Drenick1 and not you. Some reading comprehension on your part. 

Second, you think you're being cute by changing "You can't afford a premium membership" into 'suggesting' Artist buys one. 

You really are pretty far gone mentally. 

And yes, you are blocked but posts like the above prove you need to put your ego in park. Like I said I was replying to Dremick1, not you. 

Every post on these forums is not directed at you, despite what you'd like to think.

As for writing on play slips, OK, I'll tweak that a little bit and instead of writing "PAY ME" I'll write "to see the ramblings of a really twisted mind check out Stack47 @ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _.com".

Have a nice life, in a padded cell.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

British Columbia Lottery taking bets on US election

I wonder how the betting is going? What we have left now about 55 more days.

Don't forget to VOTE people  Patriot

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 11, 2016

Hillary Clinton collapsed at the 911 ceremony in NYC today.  She has serious medical problems.  She's unfit to serve as President.

Saw the part where she almost fell/collapsed getting into her SUV. Her campaign staff finally admitted that she was diagnosed with pneumonia several days ago. I think there are bigger health issues at hand.

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Sep 11, 2016

British Columbia Lottery taking bets on US election

I wonder how the betting is going? What we have left now about 55 more days.

Don't forget to VOTE people  Patriot

"Don't forget to VOTE people"

I Agree! I know I won't forget.

US FlagUS FlagUS Flag

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 11, 2016

Hillary Clinton collapsed at the 911 ceremony in NYC today.  She has serious medical problems.  She's unfit to serve as President.

I saw that, she needed at least 3 people to shuffle her into the van and another 5 to act as a human

barrier for the cameras behind her. Something was said about the heat getting to her...well, what's 

she going to do about the heat in the White House? Can't get weak in the knees there.

Lately, in interviews, she seems much more soft spoken and seems to be taking care not to go into a 

coughing spasm again. Her swallowing is even more pronounced imo.

Also, she called 50% of Trump supporters..deplorable...now, just who  is that? Me? You? And of course,

the typical explanation statement followed..ie, the garbage to cover up the garbage...'she really didn't

mean to say that'...'what she meant was'...blah, blah, blah...

It's down to the wire now. This is a real issue people. Hillary supporters, rethink your dedication to a 

indecisive, unreliable continuation of Obama politics who will say she has the US's best interests in

mind but will come up with some excuse when she can't follow through. Democrat leaning? Haven't

we had enough of that for the last 8 years? My impression of them is they're spineless, ruthless and

also without morals, principles, religion, patriotism and substance. Same sorry politics, backstabbing

and self serving that totally goes against one of the best statements of our time...

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

 

      US Flag   US Flag    US Flag   US Flag   US Flag

 

VOTE TRUMP

 

A vote for Hillary is supporting one of the biggest racists, she supports racism against the people of the UNITED

STATES OF AMERICA when she caters to other countries...while offering shelter to war torn, displaced refugees,

she stomps on our own refugees of hunger, low income, despair and hope....when she protects the status of illegal

aliens, she alienates our own citizens who cannot find work, cannot attain a better life and are suffering right this very 

minute and will continue to suffer under a regime of dirty politics. She doesn't care about the people, she cares about

her status. She cares about her gains, her hopes and her desires. She cares only to put America at the top of the

list of Best Country in the World by her own definition. Her definition lacks the reason a country can be at the top of

that list...HUMANITY FOR ITS OWN CITIZENS.

 

HILLARY CLINTON = AMERICAN COMMUNIST

 

 

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 10, 2016

Get a job. Everyone views you as a fake and a nut. You have the time to use premium member tools. I do not at the moment. I doubt you understand a career and being involved in your community.  I bet my net worth is more than you will ever have. I think you resent how well I do in Maddog's pb and mm contests. You are too chicken to participate because your lottery picks are a joke.

I love how you question my commitment to LP. Loser. You have nothing going on in your life.

"Get a job."

I have job.

"Everyone views you as a fake and a nut."

"Everyone"? Bet you can't even show where 1% of LP members agree with you.

"You have the time to use premium member tools.I do not at the moment."

There is no way you could possibly know if LP members have jobs or the time to use the tools. Are you drunk, on drugs or both?

"I doubt you understand a career and being involved in your community."

More BS, did you miss where I said that I'm a life member of the VFW and never accepted a dime for helping other veterans?

"I bet my net worth is more than you will ever have."

LOL ROFL  LOL

But again, why do you keep saying you know so much stuff about LP members? Are you a hacker?

"I think you resent how well I do in Maddog's pb and mm contests."

Don't be stupid!!!

"You are too chicken to participate because your lottery picks are a joke."

You really are stupid!! Read this and explain if my picks are a joke, what are the rest of the picks.

"I love how you question my commitment to LP."

There is nothing to question. Which part of you have no financial commitment to LP is confusing you?

"You have nothing going on in your life."

Why do you keep pretending you know personal things about other LP members?

destinycreation

This thread has really gotten way out of hand.  The Trump vs. Clinton bashing, and LP Members bashing each other, is all VERY OLD by now.  Roll Eyes

Enough is Enough !!!  Bang Head

I really wish TODD would LOCK THIS THREAD !!!   Rant

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 11, 2016

First let's talk about reading comprehension, I was replying to Drenick1 and not you. Some reading comprehension on your part. 

Second, you think you're being cute by changing "You can't afford a premium membership" into 'suggesting' Artist buys one. 

You really are pretty far gone mentally. 

And yes, you are blocked but posts like the above prove you need to put your ego in park. Like I said I was replying to Dremick1, not you. 

Every post on these forums is not directed at you, despite what you'd like to think.

As for writing on play slips, OK, I'll tweak that a little bit and instead of writing "PAY ME" I'll write "to see the ramblings of a really twisted mind check out Stack47 @ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _.com".

Have a nice life, in a padded cell.

"First let's talk about reading comprehension, I was replying to Drenick1 and not you."

Which part of childishly attacking me twice in that post did you forget?

"Second, you think you're being cute by changing "You can't afford a premium membership" into 'suggesting' Artist buys one."

Show me the post where I said "You can't afford a premium membership" to Artist or anyone else?

"You really are pretty far gone mentally."

Seriously is there really a logical reason other than a childish insult to say something like that?

"And yes, you are blocked  "

Did you forget to check the "blocked" box again?

"Like I said I was replying to Dremick1, not you."

And for the second time YOU MENTIONED ME TWICE IN THAT POST.s

"Every post on these forums is not directed at you, despite what you'd like to think."

Will showing what you posted to Denrick1 in bold large font help jog your memory?

"Im Stacks twisted mind posting rules, such as No Personal Attacks, and then telling Artist she can't afford a premium membership is not contradictory. Perhaps the truth is more like Stack can't afford the mental health counseling he so desperately needs."

Were you lying when you said you "had me blocked" and are you now totally confused about childishly insulting me TWICE?

"As for writing on play slips"

As long as you don't do it where I play, I don't care. But I won't be surprised if the headlines of an LP News Story is "Elderly person beaten by angry player". 

For anyone reading this silly stuff, I'm not advocating violence, but lots of lotteries have 4-minute Keno and the game is very time sensitive. If a Keno player filed out one of Coin Toss' marked play slips, gave it to the clerk, but the slip was void because of Coin Toss' marks, the player bet isn't made, the ten numbers he wanted to play are drawn, and that player lost $100,000 because of Coin Toss...........you get the picture.

"Have a nice life, in a padded cell."

ROFL Coin Toss believes anyone not believing their BS is nuts. ROFL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Sep 11, 2016

This thread has really gotten way out of hand.  The Trump vs. Clinton bashing, and LP Members bashing each other, is all VERY OLD by now.  Roll Eyes

Enough is Enough !!!  Bang Head

I really wish TODD would LOCK THIS THREAD !!!   Rant

I Agree! the member bashing is somewhat over the top, but lots of it is pretty funny too. Do you really think Artist was being serious when they said to me "I think you resent how well I do in Maddog's pb and mm contests." and "You are too chicken to participate because your lottery picks are a joke."?

As for the Trump and Clinton bashing, my best guess is because there is one place where people can vent, it won't be all over the Forums.

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Sep 11, 2016

This thread has really gotten way out of hand.  The Trump vs. Clinton bashing, and LP Members bashing each other, is all VERY OLD by now.  Roll Eyes

Enough is Enough !!!  Bang Head

I really wish TODD would LOCK THIS THREAD !!!   Rant

Sometimes Todd will let a thread go on just to see how far it will go.

My guess is he'll let this go till election day, since that's what it's about.

 

BTW, remember the atheist thread ?

it was on right about the time I signed up...it went over 100 pages, and this is kinda mild compared to what went on with that one.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 10, 2016

That's an odd thing to say considering you can't afford a Premium membership. Maybe you can solicit you're good friends on LP to chip in so you can purchase a Gold members for one month. You're probably posting from a public library or do you frequent motel and hotel PCs? 

Show some class, don't be cheap, and purchase a Premium Membership; you'll be glad you did.

Show me the post where I said "You can't afford a premium membership" to Artist or anyone else?

 

I didn't have to go back very far to find this example, posted in reply to Artist.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Sep 11, 2016

British Columbia Lottery taking bets on US election

I wonder how the betting is going? What we have left now about 55 more days.

Don't forget to VOTE people  Patriot

According to British Bookmaker William Hill "Trump has gone from 5/2 to 11/4 to become the next US President while rival Hillary Clinton is now into 2/7, from 3/10, after a flurry of support for her in recent days that saw bets of £9,600 and £5,000 placed on her to win succeed Barack Obama."

Hill is in Australia too and those odds might be different. HERE are the current British Columbia Lottery odds.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Sep 11, 2016

I saw that, she needed at least 3 people to shuffle her into the van and another 5 to act as a human

barrier for the cameras behind her. Something was said about the heat getting to her...well, what's 

she going to do about the heat in the White House? Can't get weak in the knees there.

Lately, in interviews, she seems much more soft spoken and seems to be taking care not to go into a 

coughing spasm again. Her swallowing is even more pronounced imo.

Also, she called 50% of Trump supporters..deplorable...now, just who  is that? Me? You? And of course,

the typical explanation statement followed..ie, the garbage to cover up the garbage...'she really didn't

mean to say that'...'what she meant was'...blah, blah, blah...

It's down to the wire now. This is a real issue people. Hillary supporters, rethink your dedication to a 

indecisive, unreliable continuation of Obama politics who will say she has the US's best interests in

mind but will come up with some excuse when she can't follow through. Democrat leaning? Haven't

we had enough of that for the last 8 years? My impression of them is they're spineless, ruthless and

also without morals, principles, religion, patriotism and substance. Same sorry politics, backstabbing

and self serving that totally goes against one of the best statements of our time...

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

 

      US Flag   US Flag    US Flag   US Flag   US Flag

 

VOTE TRUMP

 

A vote for Hillary is supporting one of the biggest racists, she supports racism against the people of the UNITED

STATES OF AMERICA when she caters to other countries...while offering shelter to war torn, displaced refugees,

she stomps on our own refugees of hunger, low income, despair and hope....when she protects the status of illegal

aliens, she alienates our own citizens who cannot find work, cannot attain a better life and are suffering right this very 

minute and will continue to suffer under a regime of dirty politics. She doesn't care about the people, she cares about

her status. She cares about her gains, her hopes and her desires. She cares only to put America at the top of the

list of Best Country in the World by her own definition. Her definition lacks the reason a country can be at the top of

that list...HUMANITY FOR ITS OWN CITIZENS.

 

HILLARY CLINTON = AMERICAN COMMUNIST

 

 

Trump,  US Flag

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Sep 11, 2016

Show me the post where I said "You can't afford a premium membership" to Artist or anyone else?

 

I didn't have to go back very far to find this example, posted in reply to Artist.

But was I correct when I asked "You're probably posting from a public library or do you frequent motel and hotel PCs?"?

Or maybe I was talking to nobody specific  without a premium membership like you when I said, "Show some class, don't be cheap, and purchase a Premium Membership; you'll be glad you did."?

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 11, 2016

But was I correct when I asked "You're probably posting from a public library or do you frequent motel and hotel PCs?"?

Or maybe I was talking to nobody specific  without a premium membership like you when I said, "Show some class, don't be cheap, and purchase a Premium Membership; you'll be glad you did."?

Go back and look at the post if you can't remember from less than 2 days ago. Direct reply to Artist77.

 

https://www.lotterypost.com/news/305361/4775597

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 10, 2016

Don't call him smokestack, call him goober.  He earned it.

Are you a body bag salesman?

Because if "your president" starts a war over something that trivial, we'll need lots of them.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Sep 11, 2016

Go back and look at the post if you can't remember from less than 2 days ago. Direct reply to Artist77.

 

https://www.lotterypost.com/news/305361/4775597

Did you actually read my response (the one you quoted)? Did you read Artist's post where they said "I bet my net worth is more than you will ever have."?

Bet it didn't occur to you that I questioned Artist's ability to purchase a Premium membership before  Artist said that.

Are you going to give Artist a Premium membership as a gift or are hoping someone gives you a Premium membership as a gift?

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 11, 2016

Did you actually read my response (the one you quoted)? Did you read Artist's post where they said "I bet my net worth is more than you will ever have."?

Bet it didn't occur to you that I questioned Artist's ability to purchase a Premium membership before  Artist said that.

Are you going to give Artist a Premium membership as a gift or are hoping someone gives you a Premium membership as a gift?

Why do you continue to attempt to steer the converstion away from the candidates and issues?

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/11/hillary-clintons-health-just-became-a-real-issue-in-the-presidential-campaign/

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Sep 11, 2016

Why do you continue to attempt to steer the converstion away from the candidates and issues?

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/11/hillary-clintons-health-just-became-a-real-issue-in-the-presidential-campaign/

"Why do you continue to attempt to steer the converstion away from the candidates and issues?"

Will you agree that because the two candidates are so different at least 95% of the electorate has made up their minds?

Will your Clinton's health link change the mind of a Trump voter?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Sep 11, 2016

This thread has really gotten way out of hand.  The Trump vs. Clinton bashing, and LP Members bashing each other, is all VERY OLD by now.  Roll Eyes

Enough is Enough !!!  Bang Head

I really wish TODD would LOCK THIS THREAD !!!   Rant

I really wish Hillary would go away but that's not going to happen either I guess.

Todd rated the thread 5 stars, I too, do not think it will be locked...maybe after the election as one poster said above.

Because...depending on who wins this, it will turn into a real  circus and then it might have to be shut down. LOL

Candidate bashing...?? There is no nicey, nicey when it comes to that lady in my opinion. I just saw Kaine's remark

that he thinks the Vatican will reverse itself on its stance on gay marriage...yeah, I guess if they can give them another

reason to be forced into something they are totally against..tax free status is a real pressure tool, so I guess they can

dream up something to make them change their religious beliefs on that subject too....zip their lips or they lose their

status. Kaine calls himself Roman Catholic, my azz he is...with views like that and his own interpretation of what was

stated in Genesis, he should be taken out of town and stoned. 

There is a lot of interest in this thread and although it seems to get off point sometimes, is it really  off point discussing

the candidates? The topic line is British Columbia taking bets on who wins..what are we supposed to write here? Most of 

what is here is fitting and there are a lot of strong views stated. The content here, minus some of the trouble making posts..

cough - blocked  which, btw, you should consider...is relevant to topic. There are 1,300+ replies and almost 60,000 views.

I'd say that shows it's a pretty hot topic and worthy of staying active.

Oh btw too...Hillary, they say, has pneumonia. Skeptical I say as Secretary of State, she traveled to many, many countries...she

may have a bit more than that but then again, the world may never know. One thing she is good at is cover up. I just don't

think that's a trait that's good for any of us to be forced to accept should she be elected President.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Sep 11, 2016

This thread has really gotten way out of hand.  The Trump vs. Clinton bashing, and LP Members bashing each other, is all VERY OLD by now.  Roll Eyes

Enough is Enough !!!  Bang Head

I really wish TODD would LOCK THIS THREAD !!!   Rant

The vandal Jill Stein sucks.

Did you ever consider simply not opening the thread if you don't like the posts or are you one of those people who love to be perpetually offended?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 11, 2016

"First let's talk about reading comprehension, I was replying to Drenick1 and not you."

Which part of childishly attacking me twice in that post did you forget?

"Second, you think you're being cute by changing "You can't afford a premium membership" into 'suggesting' Artist buys one."

Show me the post where I said "You can't afford a premium membership" to Artist or anyone else?

"You really are pretty far gone mentally."

Seriously is there really a logical reason other than a childish insult to say something like that?

"And yes, you are blocked  "

Did you forget to check the "blocked" box again?

"Like I said I was replying to Dremick1, not you."

And for the second time YOU MENTIONED ME TWICE IN THAT POST.s

"Every post on these forums is not directed at you, despite what you'd like to think."

Will showing what you posted to Denrick1 in bold large font help jog your memory?

"Im Stacks twisted mind posting rules, such as No Personal Attacks, and then telling Artist she can't afford a premium membership is not contradictory. Perhaps the truth is more like Stack can't afford the mental health counseling he so desperately needs."

Were you lying when you said you "had me blocked" and are you now totally confused about childishly insulting me TWICE?

"As for writing on play slips"

As long as you don't do it where I play, I don't care. But I won't be surprised if the headlines of an LP News Story is "Elderly person beaten by angry player". 

For anyone reading this silly stuff, I'm not advocating violence, but lots of lotteries have 4-minute Keno and the game is very time sensitive. If a Keno player filed out one of Coin Toss' marked play slips, gave it to the clerk, but the slip was void because of Coin Toss' marks, the player bet isn't made, the ten numbers he wanted to play are drawn, and that player lost $100,000 because of Coin Toss...........you get the picture.

"Have a nice life, in a padded cell."

ROFL Coin Toss believes anyone not believing their BS is nuts. ROFL

Well Stack if you really read my original post about writing on play slips you would have realized that I mentioned doing them on game boxes not to be played and voiding that particular game. But of course you don't read everything, you just look for something to criticize and make yourself look like a conversational cripple when you do so. 

As for your Keno fantasy you just proved yourself to be a degenerate gambler and a liberal, the common trait beiing having to have something or someone else to blame it on. 

As for 'attacking you', coming from you who attacks anyone you don't agree with, well that's the stupidest thing I've seen on these forums. 

See Ya!

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Sep 12, 2016

The vandal Jill Stein sucks.

Did you ever consider simply not opening the thread if you don't like the posts or are you one of those people who love to be perpetually offended?

           Scared..........    LOL

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Sep 11, 2016

I saw that, she needed at least 3 people to shuffle her into the van and another 5 to act as a human

barrier for the cameras behind her. Something was said about the heat getting to her...well, what's 

she going to do about the heat in the White House? Can't get weak in the knees there.

Lately, in interviews, she seems much more soft spoken and seems to be taking care not to go into a 

coughing spasm again. Her swallowing is even more pronounced imo.

Also, she called 50% of Trump supporters..deplorable...now, just who  is that? Me? You? And of course,

the typical explanation statement followed..ie, the garbage to cover up the garbage...'she really didn't

mean to say that'...'what she meant was'...blah, blah, blah...

It's down to the wire now. This is a real issue people. Hillary supporters, rethink your dedication to a 

indecisive, unreliable continuation of Obama politics who will say she has the US's best interests in

mind but will come up with some excuse when she can't follow through. Democrat leaning? Haven't

we had enough of that for the last 8 years? My impression of them is they're spineless, ruthless and

also without morals, principles, religion, patriotism and substance. Same sorry politics, backstabbing

and self serving that totally goes against one of the best statements of our time...

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

 

      US Flag   US Flag    US Flag   US Flag   US Flag

 

VOTE TRUMP

 

A vote for Hillary is supporting one of the biggest racists, she supports racism against the people of the UNITED

STATES OF AMERICA when she caters to other countries...while offering shelter to war torn, displaced refugees,

she stomps on our own refugees of hunger, low income, despair and hope....when she protects the status of illegal

aliens, she alienates our own citizens who cannot find work, cannot attain a better life and are suffering right this very 

minute and will continue to suffer under a regime of dirty politics. She doesn't care about the people, she cares about

her status. She cares about her gains, her hopes and her desires. She cares only to put America at the top of the

list of Best Country in the World by her own definition. Her definition lacks the reason a country can be at the top of

that list...HUMANITY FOR ITS OWN CITIZENS.

 

HILLARY CLINTON = AMERICAN COMMUNIST

 

 

                              I Agree!       TRUMP ALL THE WAY...... Thumbs Up

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 12, 2016

Well Stack if you really read my original post about writing on play slips you would have realized that I mentioned doing them on game boxes not to be played and voiding that particular game. But of course you don't read everything, you just look for something to criticize and make yourself look like a conversational cripple when you do so. 

As for your Keno fantasy you just proved yourself to be a degenerate gambler and a liberal, the common trait beiing having to have something or someone else to blame it on. 

As for 'attacking you', coming from you who attacks anyone you don't agree with, well that's the stupidest thing I've seen on these forums. 

See Ya!

"Well Stack if you really read my original post about writing on play slips you would have realized that I mentioned doing them on game boxes not to be played and voiding that particular game."

Only a 12-year-old or someone with a 12-year-old like mentality tries to justify doing something that childish.

"Here's one, take a play slip for any game, fill it out, and in another game box on the same slip check VOID and in that game box write PLEASE PLAY ME and put it back in the slot for that game."

After you "put it back in the slot for that game", do you giggle like a little girl when a real player sees it? 

"As for your Keno fantasy you just proved yourself to be a degenerate gambler"

I didn't even know I had a Keno fantasy. Did you get fired from "your crap table" job for calling real players "degenerate gamblers"?

"and a liberal, the common trait beiing having to have something or someone else to blame it on."

"beiing"??????

I don't usually point out grammar and spelling flames, but there is a spell check feature. But then again as a slovenly speller you're prone to think any correction is flaming. 

"First let's talk about reading comprehension, I was replying to Drenick1 and not you."

Which part of childishly attacking me twice in that post did you forget?

"As for 'attacking you', coming from you who attacks anyone you don't agree with,"

I said "childishly attacking me", speaking of reading comprehension. Even Artist has enough sense to know the difference between attacking and Trash Talking.

"well that's the stupidest thing I've seen on these forums."

Nothing is more stupid than an elderly adult marking on lottery play slips and then waiting hours for a real lottery player to see it.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Sep 11, 2016

Show me the post where I said "You can't afford a premium membership" to Artist or anyone else?

 

I didn't have to go back very far to find this example, posted in reply to Artist.

  • Thanks ArizonaDream. I see he is posting all day while I I am hard at work at a job. He is mentally ill and should be committed. We can all have an online party when he is booted from lp. He has no grip on reality.
Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 12, 2016

Well Stack if you really read my original post about writing on play slips you would have realized that I mentioned doing them on game boxes not to be played and voiding that particular game. But of course you don't read everything, you just look for something to criticize and make yourself look like a conversational cripple when you do so. 

As for your Keno fantasy you just proved yourself to be a degenerate gambler and a liberal, the common trait beiing having to have something or someone else to blame it on. 

As for 'attacking you', coming from you who attacks anyone you don't agree with, well that's the stupidest thing I've seen on these forums. 

See Ya!

Coin toss, we all know he is mentally ill.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

To Stack47, I'm taking it that your birth year was 1947, so Einstein you are older than me. How childish of you. 

Either knock off the meds, get back on your meds, or put down the booze.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Sep 11, 2016

This thread has really gotten way out of hand.  The Trump vs. Clinton bashing, and LP Members bashing each other, is all VERY OLD by now.  Roll Eyes

Enough is Enough !!!  Bang Head

I really wish TODD would LOCK THIS THREAD !!!   Rant

Actually your multi-colored posts hurt my eyes more than the bashing.  Some people feel strongly about the direction of this country.  If you don't like it then don't read it.  Those of us who don't win mulit-million dollar jackpots are stuck where we are.  All we can do is vote for someone who will "hopefully" make life better.  And that ain't Hillary.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 12, 2016

To Stack47, I'm taking it that your birth year was 1947, so Einstein you are older than me. How childish of you. 

Either knock off the meds, get back on your meds, or put down the booze.

"To Stack47, I'm taking it that your birth year was 1947, so Einstein you are older than me."

Or maybe I was 47 when I joined LP or that ID was suggested by Yahoo, Hot mail, G-mail or any of the other email service. Were you lying when you said you blocked me just like you're lying now?

There is absolutely no reason why I should continue to reply to your stupid theories or childish insults.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 12, 2016

  • Thanks ArizonaDream. I see he is posting all day while I I am hard at work at a job. He is mentally ill and should be committed. We can all have an online party when he is booted from lp. He has no grip on reality.

"We can all have an online party when he is booted from lp."

Trash-talking is one thing, but you're not the management; you know, the people you're to cheap to support by purchasing an upgraded membership.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Stack the moron does not know the difference between " to " and "too."   And trying to pretend he runs lp again.

I trust Todd to do the right thing when the time is right. Todd has always supported both his paying and non paying members and all of us that had his back when Stack's good friend Ronnie was booted and kept coming back and calling Todd names.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 12, 2016

To Stack47, I'm taking it that your birth year was 1947, so Einstein you are older than me. How childish of you. 

Either knock off the meds, get back on your meds, or put down the booze.

"To Stack47, I'm taking it that your birth year was 1947"

Are you "taking it that" Artist77 birth year is 1977, dr65 is 1965, and DEE88 is 1988?

Oh and was Sully16 born in 1916? Only you and your bizarre logic know how old the members with three or more digits are. LOL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 12, 2016

Stack the moron does not know the difference between " to " and "too."   And trying to pretend he runs lp again.

I trust Todd to do the right thing when the time is right. Todd has always supported both his paying and non paying members and all of us that had his back when Stack's good friend Ronnie was booted and kept coming back and calling Todd names.

"And trying to pretend he runs lp again."

Did you lie about your net worth, having a high paying job, and is your "gated community" something like a half-way house?

Prove me wrong and purchase a "one month" Premium membership.

"Todd has always supported both his paying and non paying members  "

I don't recall reading where someone said that he didn't. Do you have a link?

"and all of us that had his back"'

I'm not positive exactly how it works, but I'm pretty sure it's management's decision to ban a poster regardless of your delusions of grandeur.

"when Stack's good friend Ronnie was booted and kept coming back and calling Todd names."

I remember Ronnie from Arizona who predicted 5 + 1 MM drawing MM using 28 numbers and only one bonus number, but I doubt the group of us in that discussion thought of us as good friends. I wasn't involved in the stuff you're talking about, did management ask you or need you to "have their back"?

Do you have any new trash-taking because if not, I'm busy discussing lottery stuff.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

If Todd boots Stack, I will buy a premium membership to celebrate. Todd knows I am a person of my word. Maybe Stack can use his new free time to find a job.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 12, 2016

If Todd boots Stack, I will buy a premium membership to celebrate. Todd knows I am a person of my word. Maybe Stack can use his new free time to find a job.

"If Todd boots Stack, I will buy a premium membership to celebrate."

You really are a goofball.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 12, 2016

Actually your multi-colored posts hurt my eyes more than the bashing.  Some people feel strongly about the direction of this country.  If you don't like it then don't read it.  Those of us who don't win mulit-million dollar jackpots are stuck where we are.  All we can do is vote for someone who will "hopefully" make life better.  And that ain't Hillary.

Amen!

Go Trump! US Flag

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

Type time will spin a most curious yarn soon enough .......

insert prayer for this country's sanity

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 10, 2016

Just watched the video of Trump in the latest Florida rally.  He said Iranian boats harassing US warships in international waters will be sunk.  OMG its about time we had a President with balls!

"Just watched the video of Trump in the latest Florida rally.  He said Iranian boats harassing US warships in international waters will be sunk."

When Trump first spoke about building a wall, deporting 11 million people, and banning Muslims from entering America, I thought it was a simple exaggeration of some of the real problems in America today. And if nothing else his remarks will start a national debate.

But there is nothing simple about risking starting a war just because "they make gestures at our people".

"All we can do is vote for someone who will "hopefully" make life better."

If starting a war over making gestures to a U.S. coastal patrol boat makes your life better, there is nothing I can add.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by hearsetrax on Sep 13, 2016

Type time will spin a most curious yarn soon enough .......

insert prayer for this country's sanity

Someone will bring up the Colin Kaepernick controversy and we'll all have a group hug. Wink

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 13, 2016

"Just watched the video of Trump in the latest Florida rally.  He said Iranian boats harassing US warships in international waters will be sunk."

When Trump first spoke about building a wall, deporting 11 million people, and banning Muslims from entering America, I thought it was a simple exaggeration of some of the real problems in America today. And if nothing else his remarks will start a national debate.

But there is nothing simple about risking starting a war just because "they make gestures at our people".

"All we can do is vote for someone who will "hopefully" make life better."

If starting a war over making gestures to a U.S. coastal patrol boat makes your life better, there is nothing I can add.

A boat killed how many American sailors on the USS Cole?  You kidding me?  Making gestures?  I guarantee you one thing stack (goober), sink one of those boats and that'll be the last time they f u ck with us.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

No room in America for Christian refugees

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/228670-no-room-in-america-for-christian-refugees

The pro-Hillary anti-Trump crowd needs to think about this.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 13, 2016

A boat killed how many American sailors on the USS Cole?  You kidding me?  Making gestures?  I guarantee you one thing stack (goober), sink one of those boats and that'll be the last time they f u ck with us.

Exactly, I Agree!

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 13, 2016

A boat killed how many American sailors on the USS Cole?  You kidding me?  Making gestures?  I guarantee you one thing stack (goober), sink one of those boats and that'll be the last time they f u ck with us.

I think about the Cole every time those a-holes pull their little stunt. Diplomatically, we should tell them do it one more time and we won't change course, we'll defend ourselves. Then back it up.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 12, 2016

Actually your multi-colored posts hurt my eyes more than the bashing.  Some people feel strongly about the direction of this country.  If you don't like it then don't read it.  Those of us who don't win mulit-million dollar jackpots are stuck where we are.  All we can do is vote for someone who will "hopefully" make life better.  And that ain't Hillary.

I Agree!

What's with all the color???

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 13, 2016

A boat killed how many American sailors on the USS Cole?  You kidding me?  Making gestures?  I guarantee you one thing stack (goober), sink one of those boats and that'll be the last time they f u ck with us.

Apparently you're confusing the Al-Qaeda bombing of the USS Cole 16 years ago while refueling at a port in Yemen with the sailors on Iranian boats recently making "improper gestures".

"sink one of those boats"

What happens if there are Russians on those boats?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 13, 2016

I think about the Cole every time those a-holes pull their little stunt. Diplomatically, we should tell them do it one more time and we won't change course, we'll defend ourselves. Then back it up.

Trump said "When [the Iranians] circle our beautiful destroyers with their little boats, and they make gestures at our people that they shouldn’t be allowed to make, they will be shot out of the water."

"Diplomatically, we should tell them do it one more time and we won't change course, we'll defend ourselves. Then back it up."

The greatest country in the World "should tell the Iranian sailors to stop making gestures or else"?

It doesn't get any more childish than that. And if a real war starts, will you send your children to fight and possibly die for "gestures"?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 13, 2016

I think about the Cole every time those a-holes pull their little stunt. Diplomatically, we should tell them do it one more time and we won't change course, we'll defend ourselves. Then back it up.

Nuke 'em 'til they glow then shoot 'em in the dark. 

Wink

But right now the Iranians are not only thinking we have a poosy in the White House but a lot of Americans want to put another one in.

Bang Head

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 13, 2016

I Agree!

What's with all the color???

Showing her "pride".

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Hillary = the same old thing for the last 30 years.  Not happy with that.  I'm voting for someone different.  The establishment (dems and repubs) hate Trump.  He has my vote.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

I love the Hillary tv ads where they ask Trump what sacrifices he has made.  What sacrifices has Hillary EVER made? Not counting human sacrifices of course...lol. Be very scared if Kaine is ever president. He is more of a socialist than Obama.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

What sacrifices has Hillary EVER made?

Well, there was that time when her $12k+ Armani jacket was at the cleaners and she was almost forced to wear something off-the-rack, but the dry cleaning establishment was threatened with perpetual IRS audits, so they rushed it out.

The horror.

moonos

Original Post by Stack47

 

It doesn't get any more childish than that. And if a real war starts, will you send your children to fight and possibly die for "gestures"?

 

Politicians don't send their kids to die in a war... If they do go, they sit in a safe risk free cushy role.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 13, 2016

Nuke 'em 'til they glow then shoot 'em in the dark. 

Wink

But right now the Iranians are not only thinking we have a poosy in the White House but a lot of Americans want to put another one in.

Bang Head

One of those boats stopped about 100 yards in front of one of our ships, making our ship change course. They're doing things like that and harassing our ships to see what our reaction will be. Testing us. 

Maybe we should change the answers on the test.

But you're right. We have a poosy in the White House. And a lot of Americans want to put a bigger poosy in the White House that left Americans to die in Benghazi.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by moonos on Sep 15, 2016

Original Post by Stack47

 

It doesn't get any more childish than that. And if a real war starts, will you send your children to fight and possibly die for "gestures"?

 

Politicians don't send their kids to die in a war... If they do go, they sit in a safe risk free cushy role.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 15, 2016

One of those boats stopped about 100 yards in front of one of our ships, making our ship change course. They're doing things like that and harassing our ships to see what our reaction will be. Testing us. 

Maybe we should change the answers on the test.

But you're right. We have a poosy in the White House. And a lot of Americans want to put a bigger poosy in the White House that left Americans to die in Benghazi.

I agree, now they want to bring refugees into our country, feed them, house them, and give them health care, we have no idea who these people are, or how well they have been vetted.

Sick of this BS, Do I think we will hear about crimes they commit? NO

Do we know what diseases they carry? no

Do we know if any are Islamic Jihadis? No

Do any of them have any skills to contribute to Society? Don't have a clue.

We can't bring the whole world here on a whim.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by moonos on Sep 15, 2016

Original Post by Stack47

 

It doesn't get any more childish than that. And if a real war starts, will you send your children to fight and possibly die for "gestures"?

 

Politicians don't send their kids to die in a war... If they do go, they sit in a safe risk free cushy role.

moonos,

You're right for the most part, but there are exceptions.

In 1967 I was in the 82nd Airborne in an artillery unit and one of Agnew's nephews was in the same unit. He had been in the 173rd Airborne in 'Nam in an infantry unit.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 15, 2016

moonos,

You're right for the most part, but there are exceptions.

In 1967 I was in the 82nd Airborne in an artillery unit and one of Agnew's nephews was in the same unit. He had been in the 173rd Airborne in 'Nam in an infantry unit.

Death from above, My brother was 82nd Airborne, he still lives in Lumberton.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by moonos on Sep 15, 2016

Original Post by Stack47

 

It doesn't get any more childish than that. And if a real war starts, will you send your children to fight and possibly die for "gestures"?

 

Politicians don't send their kids to die in a war... If they do go, they sit in a safe risk free cushy role.

Trump was talking about shooting at the boats not nuking a country and probably starting WW III as Coin Toss suggested. Going to war believing a country has and will use weapons of mass destruction is one thing, but that old fool is saying "Nuke 'em 'til they glow then shoot 'em in the dark."

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Sep 15, 2016

Death from above, My brother was 82nd Airborne, he still lives in Lumberton.

Airborne!

82nd Airborne Division Color Patch | Medals of America

All American - also known as the Jumpin' Junkies!

When I got there some of the units had just come back from the riots in Detroit. 

In the fall of 1967 the Army took all its Airborne troops with time enough left to go to 'Nam and sent all the short timers to Ft Bragg.

Once we got to the 101st they made most people grunts.

We were in a place called Cu Chi for all of 10 days and then going out the 'fifth wire' one day, there was our artillery unit from Bragg.

moonos

Off topic but this whole thread really is.

I went to Cambodia on holiday earlier this year and learnt a lot. The whole Vietnam USA war was just tragic.

I'm not blaming soldiers who went to war... Many didn't believe in it but were compelled. Others were just trying to do right for their country.

I'm really talking about the USA government's concern about communism and total disregard of Cambodia.

 

Cambodia was an innocent country, it's so sad what happened to them.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by moonos on Sep 16, 2016

Off topic but this whole thread really is.

I went to Cambodia on holiday earlier this year and learnt a lot. The whole Vietnam USA war was just tragic.

I'm not blaming soldiers who went to war... Many didn't believe in it but were compelled. Others were just trying to do right for their country.

I'm really talking about the USA government's concern about communism and total disregard of Cambodia.

 

Cambodia was an innocent country, it's so sad what happened to them.

The whole Vietnam USA war was just tragic.

The Australians were there too with a significant number of troops. (60,000)  They were there from the early days of U.S. involvement to the end of that involvement.

Many didn't believe in it but were compelled

2/3 of the U.S. troops who served in Vietnam volunteered.

I'm really talking about the USA government's concern about communism

If you're referencing the domino theory, that was accurate. The ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) countries, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand stayed free of Communism because of the U.S. commitment to Vietnam. The Indonesians threw the Soviets out in 1966 because of America’s commitment in Vietnam. Without that commitment, Communism would have swept all the way to the Malacca Straits that is south of Singapore and of great strategic importance to the free world. If you ask people who live in these countries that won the war in Vietnam, they have a different opinion from the American news media. The Vietnam War was the turning point for Communism. (source)  That's an opinion from the referenced website, but it is true, proved by history.

Cambodia was an innocent country

Uh huh, right.  Everything that happened to them after the Vietnam War was directly due to the Khmer Rouge Communists...who, during the Vietnam War, aided the NVA and Viet Cong in the fight against the "Yankee Imperialists".   Of course, Cambodia and Vietnam fought each other for several years after the U.S. withdrawal.  Not long after that, China invaded Vietnam, but was forced to pull back because of stiff resistance, helped in a large part by the massive amount of weapons the U.S. had left the S. Vietnamese which were captured by the victorious NVA and Viet Cong....all in good shape, I might add:  "Never fired, dropped only once".

But yeah, in 20-20 hindsight, the U.S. should never have been involved over there, instead letting the Commies kill each other off.   Then again,  without American intervention in Southeast Asia, the Communists might have instead invaded Australia.  That'd been better, right?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by moonos on Sep 16, 2016

Off topic but this whole thread really is.

I went to Cambodia on holiday earlier this year and learnt a lot. The whole Vietnam USA war was just tragic.

I'm not blaming soldiers who went to war... Many didn't believe in it but were compelled. Others were just trying to do right for their country.

I'm really talking about the USA government's concern about communism and total disregard of Cambodia.

 

Cambodia was an innocent country, it's so sad what happened to them.

Don't ruin my opinion of Aussies. Lol Australia was the first county to publicly stand by the US, hours after 9-11. I will not forget that!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Anyone here seriously think Hillary Clinton would make a good President?  If so, tell me why.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Can I say I love Donald Trump? I never thought I 'd see another great President like Reagan again in my lifetime. Of course I greatly admire GWB as well.

We have entered the real George Jetson computer age that was predicted to happen in the 1960's (in the 1930's)and then the 80's. The economy has to find new ways to put people to work. The old ways are dead or dying. The newspapers are dead, truck and bus and taxi drivers are next to lose their jobs due to self driving cars, etc.

Donald Trump 2016

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 16, 2016

Anyone here seriously think Hillary Clinton would make a good President?  If so, tell me why.

Your question is odd because the reason most people vote for someone is because they believe that person will make a good President. Currently less than 15% believe Johnson, Stein, or one of the other candidates will make a "good President". And the "why" should be obvious; they don't like Clinton or Trump.

Do you think John Kasich believes Trump will make a good President?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 17, 2016

Your question is odd because the reason most people vote for someone is because they believe that person will make a good President. Currently less than 15% believe Johnson, Stein, or one of the other candidates will make a "good President". And the "why" should be obvious; they don't like Clinton or Trump.

Do you think John Kasich believes Trump will make a good President?

Most people vote for someone because they believe that person will make a good President?  That's true with Trump voters.  Not true with Hillary voters.  They vote for Hillary because she's a democrat or a woman... I wouldn't call that a good reason, would you? 

And as a side note.... How come no one at a Hillary rally chants " USA...USA...USA"?  They chant that at Trump rallies all the time.  Don't democrats love this country?

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 17, 2016

Most people vote for someone because they believe that person will make a good President?  That's true with Trump voters.  Not true with Hillary voters.  They vote for Hillary because she's a democrat or a woman... I wouldn't call that a good reason, would you? 

And as a side note.... How come no one at a Hillary rally chants " USA...USA...USA"?  They chant that at Trump rallies all the time.  Don't democrats love this country?

You hit the nail on the head. The majority of democrats will vote for Hillary based strictly on the two criteria you mentioned: 1) Democrat 2) woman.

" Don't democrats love this country?" 

Besides burning the American flag and disrespecting our country, I don't think so.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 17, 2016

Most people vote for someone because they believe that person will make a good President?  That's true with Trump voters.  Not true with Hillary voters.  They vote for Hillary because she's a democrat or a woman... I wouldn't call that a good reason, would you? 

And as a side note.... How come no one at a Hillary rally chants " USA...USA...USA"?  They chant that at Trump rallies all the time.  Don't democrats love this country?

It's really simple logic; ever hear anyone say "I voted for them because they will make a lousy President?

"They vote for Hillary because she's a democrat or a woman... I wouldn't call that a good reason, would you?"

And again it's really simple logic; Republicans usually vote for Republicans and Democrats usually vote for Democrats. However because it the first time a major party nominated a woman, it's impossible to know if people will vote for her "just because she is a woman". Are you planning on voting for Trump "just because he is a man"?

If Trump loses Ohio, he can't win so why hasn't their Republican Governor John Kasich endorsed him?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 17, 2016

Most people vote for someone because they believe that person will make a good President?  That's true with Trump voters.  Not true with Hillary voters.  They vote for Hillary because she's a democrat or a woman... I wouldn't call that a good reason, would you? 

And as a side note.... How come no one at a Hillary rally chants " USA...USA...USA"?  They chant that at Trump rallies all the time.  Don't democrats love this country?

In the previous presidential election, face it Obama got a lot of 'just because' votes and also many wanted him to keep the 'Obama phones' and the rest of the freebies coming. 

This time around Hillary will get a lot of 'just because' votes just because she's female. Anyone who denies 'just because' votes should watch Watters World and see some of the answers he gets from people about history and politics. 

Here's one;

Will President Obama be a lame duck?

“What do you mean, like he’s not gonna get re-elected?”

Bang Head

Then of course there's the Yellow Dog democrats- those who would vote democrat even if their candidate was a yellow dog.

Good point about no USA USA USA cheers at Hillary rallies.

kreative1's avatarkreative1

I think they chant USA really loud so they can't actually hear what he says or they would be saying 

OMG! OMG! OMG!

Sorry not a fan of either....

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 17, 2016

It's really simple logic; ever hear anyone say "I voted for them because they will make a lousy President?

"They vote for Hillary because she's a democrat or a woman... I wouldn't call that a good reason, would you?"

And again it's really simple logic; Republicans usually vote for Republicans and Democrats usually vote for Democrats. However because it the first time a major party nominated a woman, it's impossible to know if people will vote for her "just because she is a woman". Are you planning on voting for Trump "just because he is a man"?

If Trump loses Ohio, he can't win so why hasn't their Republican Governor John Kasich endorsed him?

So Republicans usually vote for Republicans?  That is true; however, see what happened in the primary?  Trump was up against 16 highly "qualified" opponents and yet he won.  The establishment was behind Bush big-time and he lost to Trump.  Want to know why?  Trump tells the truth.  Personally, I'm tired of politicians lying just to get votes, and I know I'm not alone.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by kreative1 on Sep 17, 2016

I think they chant USA really loud so they can't actually hear what he says or they would be saying 

OMG! OMG! OMG!

Sorry not a fan of either....

So what does he say that disturbs you so much?  Is it that immigration should be legal?   That we need to secure our southern border?  Or we shouldn't allow muslims from terror hot spots into this country?  Call me "deplorable" but I agree with all of that.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 18, 2016

So Republicans usually vote for Republicans?  That is true; however, see what happened in the primary?  Trump was up against 16 highly "qualified" opponents and yet he won.  The establishment was behind Bush big-time and he lost to Trump.  Want to know why?  Trump tells the truth.  Personally, I'm tired of politicians lying just to get votes, and I know I'm not alone.

If people want more of the same just vote for Hillary.

If people want someone that will tell it like it is, vote for Trump.

I'm tired of the same thing, from both parties. Trump got my vote in the primary. He will get my vote in November.

To vote for Hillary is like doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. That is insanity.

Green Bay, you definitely are not alone.

bigbear29

How is trump going to win without the Asian, Black and Hispanic and more votes?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 18, 2016

How is trump going to win without the Asian, Black and Hispanic and more votes?

Well.......

I don't vote for someone based on who the Asians, Blacks, and Hispanics vote for. I can only cast my vote. You can only cast your vote. If you decide to vote for Hillary only because you think other groups of people are voting for her, then you would be voting like a mindless sheep.

And for that, I truly fear for my country.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Re: The 'just because vote';

Obama: It will be 'personal insult' if black community doesn't turn out for Clinton

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/obama-it-will-be-personal-insult-if-black-community-doesnt-turn-out-for-clinton/ar-BBwi6g8?li=BBnb7Kz

Artist77's avatarArtist77

The invaders are here. Unless you want to see commercials like in Germany telling your daughters and wives and sisters  to embrace the Muslim head covering, Vote Trump.

bigbear29

Ok, it is the NUMBER of votes, not because your race is voting for a person.  Black, Hispanic, Asian and american Muslims.  Do the math!

bigbear29

What happen to the tea party?  Where is the tea party in 2016?  Numbers count in a election.

Tami333's avatarTami333

TRUMP all the way!!!!!! Patriot 

I think to myself....

"Who would most likely show up at the house of an average person on Thanksgiving Day?" (Trump)

"Who would you have more fun with watching the Thanksgiving Football game?" (Trump) 

"Who would be more interesting to listen to sitting around the Thanksgiving table?"  (Trump)

"Who will I be Thanking when I receive my future payroll check and the taxes taken out are LESS?" (Trump)

I just can't see plastic Hillary leaving her Rich pals and showing up on Thanksgiving Day with her tray of Fake-Witch Sandwiches! 

bigbear29

WOW!  "trump would most likely show up at the house of an average person on Thanksgiving Day",  really?

Last month Donald J. Trump told a crowd in New Hampshire that he would happily annoy his wealthy friends if it meant getting big money out of politics. “I have no friends, as far as I’m concerned,” he said. “You know who my friends are? You’re my friends.”

This, of course, was the sort of just-folks gambit that has won Mr. Trump new — or renewed — friends, like Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey. But there was perhaps some inadvertent truth in the remark. For nearly half a century, Mr. Trump — mogul, actor, incessant boldface name — has labored to portray himself as a charming bon vivant with a limitless supply of popularity. But his actual social circle has a fairly small diameter — even in his hometown, New York.

“Donald has some friends like me, but he’s much more of a homebody than you’d think,” said Richard LeFrak, a fellow real-estate tycoon who has known Mr. Trump for more than 40 years. “He’s very gregarious and has lots of acquaintances. But people that he’s close to? Not so many.”

bigbear29

Hillary is up on most national polls!

 

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/polls.html

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 18, 2016

What happen to the tea party?  Where is the tea party in 2016?  Numbers count in a election.

Oh, you mean the "deplorables"?  We're still here.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 17, 2016

Your question is odd because the reason most people vote for someone is because they believe that person will make a good President. Currently less than 15% believe Johnson, Stein, or one of the other candidates will make a "good President". And the "why" should be obvious; they don't like Clinton or Trump.

Do you think John Kasich believes Trump will make a good President?

The 3rd party candidates are perpetually in the hole because virtually no one thinks they are electable. 

I'll vote for Trump over a 3rd party because he has the best chance of defeating Hillary. And it's vitally important that Hillary be defeated, both on issues and personal integrity grounds.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Who in their right mind want the Clinton's back in the White House?

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 17, 2016

Most people vote for someone because they believe that person will make a good President?  That's true with Trump voters.  Not true with Hillary voters.  They vote for Hillary because she's a democrat or a woman... I wouldn't call that a good reason, would you? 

And as a side note.... How come no one at a Hillary rally chants " USA...USA...USA"?  They chant that at Trump rallies all the time.  Don't democrats love this country?

I will feel ashamed of my gender if "we" vote for Hillary just because she's a woman. We should be voting for the best for the country as a whole. I don't think there's any "women's issues" left (we've made tremendous progress in the last 50 years) that outweigh the overall economy and foreign policy issues.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 18, 2016

Who in their right mind want the Clinton's back in the White House?

And give them a second chance to steal the dishes? 

LOL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

In Wisconsin, democrat Feingold is running against incumbent Republican Johnson for Senate.  Had to laugh at the democrat commercial played today... Feingold said women still make less than men.  LOL!  Name one occupation where women make less than men.  Same old thing every four years.  People don't believe that anymore.  IMO the democrats are the deplorable ones.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Sep 18, 2016

And give them a second chance to steal the dishes? 

LOL

Don't know about you but I wouldn't eat off the same dish as Bill Clinton.  They can keep them.

bigbear29

"women still make less than men",  and that's incorrect?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 18, 2016

In Wisconsin, democrat Feingold is running against incumbent Republican Johnson for Senate.  Had to laugh at the democrat commercial played today... Feingold said women still make less than men.  LOL!  Name one occupation where women make less than men.  Same old thing every four years.  People don't believe that anymore.  IMO the democrats are the deplorable ones.

What planet are you on? Only 18% of law equity partners are women. It is not better in many non governmental professional fields. It is assumed that women, especially with children, are less committed than men. But this is an issue for BOTH parties. Remember that not all of us ladies work at Burger King! Lol

bigbear29

WASHINGTON — Donald Trump has paid men on his campaign staff one-third more than women, while Hillary Clinton has compensated men and women equally, according to a Globe analysis of payroll data for both campaigns.

Trump’s campaign staff is also far less diverse than that of his likely Democratic opponent. Only about 9 percent of his team are minorities, compared with nearly a third of Clinton’s staff.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 18, 2016

WASHINGTON — Donald Trump has paid men on his campaign staff one-third more than women, while Hillary Clinton has compensated men and women equally, according to a Globe analysis of payroll data for both campaigns.

Trump’s campaign staff is also far less diverse than that of his likely Democratic opponent. Only about 9 percent of his team are minorities, compared with nearly a third of Clinton’s staff.

Hillary is still a bigot and she has not done one thing to help the women in this country. Look who she married and comments she made about women Bubba raped. She does not support women.

In my career,  I have seen the biggest bigots hide behind the Dem label. My republican supervisors only cared that I did an excellent job.

bigbear29

I was a Bernie Sanders person, but I can not vote for a racist like trump.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 18, 2016

What planet are you on? Only 18% of law equity partners are women. It is not better in many non governmental professional fields. It is assumed that women, especially with children, are less committed than men. But this is an issue for BOTH parties. Remember that not all of us ladies work at Burger King! Lol

Excuse me!  Thought we were talking about pay vs men and women.  And who cares about percentage of women vs men in professions.  If they're qualified then they will get hired.  Give me a break.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 18, 2016

I was a Bernie Sanders person, but I can not vote for a racist like trump.

Who's the racist?  You're the one who always brings up blacks and hispanics.  If you don't like him then don't vote for him.  Who cares.

bigbear29

It is about PAY!!!!!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 18, 2016

It is about PAY!!!!!

In what occupation or profession?  Give me stats.  In the trades women make the same as men.  As for the professions, some women also make more than men.  So thats life huh?

bigbear29

TRUMP IS A RACIST!!!  You don't catch on very well, do you?

 

"Feingold said women still make less than men"

 

Yes, you would make a good trump voter!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 18, 2016

TRUMP IS A RACIST!!!  You don't catch on very well, do you?

 

"Feingold said women still make less than men"

 

Yes, you would make a good trump voter!

To tell you the truth, I really don't give a rip.  obama's a racist, do you care?

bigbear29

"And who cares about percentage of women vs men in professions"

Women CARE!  Sometimes, a man will get the job before a women and also when it comes to promotions.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 18, 2016

In what occupation or profession?  Give me stats.  In the trades women make the same as men.  As for the professions, some women also make more than men.  So thats life huh?

Omg!  Who cares about professional women??? Clueless. I just told you it was about advancement. Obviously you will not be encouraging your daughters to aim high. Join the dems please...you make us look bad.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 18, 2016

"And who cares about percentage of women vs men in professions"

Women CARE!  Sometimes, a man will get the job before a women and also when it comes to promotions.

Please add him to your side lol. He is embarrassing us.

bigbear29

It's not about the DEMs, it's about old and confused mindsets.  Prejudice, men vs. women,  color of the skin, I see it all the time in my profession.

 

I remember helping a college intern, because the guy they put her with said that he was not going to help her.  All of us needed some kind of help when we started out.

bigbear29

Yes, he is, haha!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 18, 2016

Omg!  Who cares about professional women??? Clueless. I just told you it was about advancement. Obviously you will not be encouraging your daughters to aim high. Join the dems please...you make us look bad.

Advancement?  Qualified people get hired, those less qualified don't.  So what's your problem Artist?  Women are 53% of the population and are protected as a minority so how does that happen?   What the hell do you want?  You want to hire less qualified women over men?  You're the one who should be a stinking democrat.  I have the answer, lets fire all men and hire women... Would that satisfy you????  Give me a f'n break!  I thought we were all equal?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 18, 2016

Yes, he is, haha!

Not in your wildest dreams fat boy.

bigbear29

Oh I get it, bigbear = fat, you are not even close.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 18, 2016

Advancement?  Qualified people get hired, those less qualified don't.  So what's your problem Artist?  Women are 53% of the population and are protected as a minority so how does that happen?   What the hell do you want?  You want to hire less qualified women over men?  You're the one who should be a stinking democrat.  I have the answer, lets fire all men and hire women... Would that satisfy you????  Give me a f'n break!  I thought we were all equal?

I think you are confused. I am taking about improving things. You do know Trump proposed a mandatory paid maternity leave for women? Republicans are not about hiding their heads in the sand.  You have no clue about advancement and equal pay which both sides support. I guess you are just dumb. If you think either side is saying what's the problem and everyone is equal in all opportunities so we have a perfect discriminatory free society, you might as well join the kkk.  Your type of republicanism is what sets us all backwards. You would probably have Ivanka stay home and bake cookies all day long.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Sep 18, 2016

The 3rd party candidates are perpetually in the hole because virtually no one thinks they are electable. 

I'll vote for Trump over a 3rd party because he has the best chance of defeating Hillary. And it's vitally important that Hillary be defeated, both on issues and personal integrity grounds.

That last third party candidate to get electoral votes was George Wallace in 1968, but this year it doesn't look like Gary "Mary Jane" Johnson or JIll Stein will get any.

"And it's vitally important that Hillary be defeated, both on issues and personal integrity grounds."

Lots of people say that, but why aren't they saying "It's important that Trump gets elected" for whatever reasons?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 18, 2016

Advancement?  Qualified people get hired, those less qualified don't.  So what's your problem Artist?  Women are 53% of the population and are protected as a minority so how does that happen?   What the hell do you want?  You want to hire less qualified women over men?  You're the one who should be a stinking democrat.  I have the answer, lets fire all men and hire women... Would that satisfy you????  Give me a f'n break!  I thought we were all equal?

Lurking

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 18, 2016

Lurking

What number will this New president be November 8th 2016. i think i will play them numbers in the Lottery that day.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Barack Obama is the 44th President of the United States.
There has only been 43, the 44th will be Barack Obama.

At first glance this seems like a silly question. However if you take into account the number of presidents we have had since the ACTUAL founding of the United States of America. We find out that Barack Hussein Obama is actually the 60th President. In answer to this question...Dwight D. Eisenhower is the 50th President. Here is the list...

Presidents of the Continental Congress
1. Peyton Randolph
2. Henry Middleton
3. Peyton Randolph
4. John Han<snip>
5. Henry Laurens
6. John Jay

Presidents of the United States in Congress Assembled (Articles of Confederation)
7. Samuel Huntington
8. Thomas McKean
9. John Hanson
10 Elias Boudinot
11.Thomas Mifflin
12.Richard Henry Lee
13.John Han<snip>
14.Nathaniel Gorham
15.Arthur St. Clair
16.Cyrus Griffen

Presidents of the United States (Constitution)
17.George Washington
18.John Adams
19.Thomas Jefferson
20.James Madison
21.James Monroe
22.John Quincy Adams
23.Andrew Jackson
24.Martin Van Buren
25.William Henry Harrison
26.John Tyler
27.James Knox Polk
28.Zachary Taylor
29.Millard Fillmore
30.Franklin Pierce
31.James Buchanan
32.Abraham Lincoln
33.Andrew Johnson
34.Ulysses Simpson Grant
35.Rutherford Birchard Hayes
36.James Abram Garfield
37.Chester Alan Arthur
38.Grover Cleveland
39.Benjamin Harrison
40.Grover Cleveland
41.William McKinley
42.Theodore Roosevelt
43.William Howard Taft
44.Woodrow Wilson
45.Warren Gamaliel Harding
46.Calvin Coolidge
47.Herbert Clark Hoover
48.Franklin Delano Roosevelt
49.Harry S Truman
50.Dwight David Eisenhower
51.John Fitzgerald Kennedy
52.Lyndon Baines Johnson
53.Richard Milhous Nixon
54.Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr
55.James Earl Carter
56.Ronald Wilson Reagan
57.George Herbert Walker Bush
58.William Jefferson Clinton
59.George W. Bush
60.Barak Hussein Obama

This post has been automatically changed by the Lottery Post computer system to remove inappropriate content and/or spam.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

some questions you search can't be trusted  Green laugh

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 18, 2016

I think you are confused. I am taking about improving things. You do know Trump proposed a mandatory paid maternity leave for women? Republicans are not about hiding their heads in the sand.  You have no clue about advancement and equal pay which both sides support. I guess you are just dumb. If you think either side is saying what's the problem and everyone is equal in all opportunities so we have a perfect discriminatory free society, you might as well join the kkk.  Your type of republicanism is what sets us all backwards. You would probably have Ivanka stay home and bake cookies all day long.

Give me an example where women aren't paid the same as men for the same job.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 19, 2016

Give me an example where women aren't paid the same as men for the same job.

Is this a trick question...how about Football girls can't even play can they. I don't know of any anyway Green laugh

Tami333's avatarTami333

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Sep 19, 2016

Barack Obama is the 44th President of the United States.
There has only been 43, the 44th will be Barack Obama.

At first glance this seems like a silly question. However if you take into account the number of presidents we have had since the ACTUAL founding of the United States of America. We find out that Barack Hussein Obama is actually the 60th President. In answer to this question...Dwight D. Eisenhower is the 50th President. Here is the list...

Presidents of the Continental Congress
1. Peyton Randolph
2. Henry Middleton
3. Peyton Randolph
4. John Han<snip>
5. Henry Laurens
6. John Jay

Presidents of the United States in Congress Assembled (Articles of Confederation)
7. Samuel Huntington
8. Thomas McKean
9. John Hanson
10 Elias Boudinot
11.Thomas Mifflin
12.Richard Henry Lee
13.John Han<snip>
14.Nathaniel Gorham
15.Arthur St. Clair
16.Cyrus Griffen

Presidents of the United States (Constitution)
17.George Washington
18.John Adams
19.Thomas Jefferson
20.James Madison
21.James Monroe
22.John Quincy Adams
23.Andrew Jackson
24.Martin Van Buren
25.William Henry Harrison
26.John Tyler
27.James Knox Polk
28.Zachary Taylor
29.Millard Fillmore
30.Franklin Pierce
31.James Buchanan
32.Abraham Lincoln
33.Andrew Johnson
34.Ulysses Simpson Grant
35.Rutherford Birchard Hayes
36.James Abram Garfield
37.Chester Alan Arthur
38.Grover Cleveland
39.Benjamin Harrison
40.Grover Cleveland
41.William McKinley
42.Theodore Roosevelt
43.William Howard Taft
44.Woodrow Wilson
45.Warren Gamaliel Harding
46.Calvin Coolidge
47.Herbert Clark Hoover
48.Franklin Delano Roosevelt
49.Harry S Truman
50.Dwight David Eisenhower
51.John Fitzgerald Kennedy
52.Lyndon Baines Johnson
53.Richard Milhous Nixon
54.Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr
55.James Earl Carter
56.Ronald Wilson Reagan
57.George Herbert Walker Bush
58.William Jefferson Clinton
59.George W. Bush
60.Barak Hussein Obama

This post has been automatically changed by the Lottery Post computer system to remove inappropriate content and/or spam.

Haha, #4 John Han got his Richard snipped off. Green laugh

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Hillary for president and Commander-in-Chief?

I don't think so;

Hillary Clinton Would Rather Blame Free Speech Than Islam For Terrorism

Hillary just accused the GOP nominee of treason because he used free speech in a manner she dislikes.
dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 19, 2016

Hillary for president and Commander-in-Chief?

I don't think so;

Hillary Clinton Would Rather Blame Free Speech Than Islam For Terrorism

Hillary just accused the GOP nominee of treason because he used free speech in a manner she dislikes.

Free speech and freedom of expression everywhere and to everyone except Americans.

Don't reject immigration of any kind lest you appear to be racist.

Don't say Police lives matter.

Don't balk when a transgender male enters the women's bathroom just because he looks like a woman.

Don't get angry when a boy who wants to be a girl has rights to use the girls gym locker room and the real girls
are told to change in the basement.

Don't get mad when a hygiene lesson on how 'Allah loves cleanliness' shows up in 2nd grade school classes and then is
written off as a mistake by a new teacher who downloaded, printed and distributed it without fully reviewing it. What,
was the lesson 50 pages?? For 2nd graders? Parents were outraged and I would be too, the lesson included how to
clean hijabs and thwabs...Muslim religious clothing. If there was one Muslim in that classroom, why must we accommodate
them when this is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...if so, give them a single, specialized sheet to be in accordance with
our generous/assinine accept all religion stance, DON'T teach it to our AMERICAN children so they can be swayed or confused.

Don't protest when a president elect wants to bring refugees from countries that harbor terrorists to the United States.

Don't say anything phobic at all as defined by the Democrats...homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, sexist, racist..
this could be as simple as saying the NY suspect set off bombs and had ties and made visits back and forth to Afghanistan.
His wife left USA right before the bombings.

Don't say Hillary is sick, crazy, a liar, a thief, a murderer, a cover-up artist but do say Trump is nuts, can't lead, won't
release his taxes, doesn't have experience, is racist, sexist and by saying he wants to make America great again is the
biggest racist ever...just because someone is brainwashing you that even using the word AMERICA along with the word
great is proof of racism.

Hillary looks sick, don't say that either because she has a doctor who will tell you she is the picture of health and Obama
will say you're being sexist. Don't question why she had an episode on 9/11 where she needed to be scooped out of sight
because they have an answer for that...pneumonia...how convenient. Pneumonia is a factor in many more serious
illnesses. Bacterial infectious pneumonia can spread causing problems in other organs. She's old, she's tired, she's hiding
things due to the fact she is not releasing a comprehensive medical report, which should be of utmost importance to the
voting public to have access to, you would think she'd want to release a detailed medical evaluation to show she is physically
capable of running the country without running herself into the ground or grave. People have a right to know who they are
supporting is able to do the job and what issues are worth worrying about. They do not need to be told that everything is
ok just because someone in her corner said it was.

This woman has more lives than a cat..it's not because she is without blame, she is without remorse. She believes America
should take her word for everything. She is unaccountable, she is nearly untouchable and is unfailingly unapologetic.

Do you want deception in the White House, do you want the lies to continue? Do you want to have to conform instead of
confront the problems in this nation by having to turn a blind eye, hold your tongue and accept what you know in your
heart is wrong just because people are telling you this is a nation of NO HATE? Stop hating our nation and start loving it.
Start protecting it and stop throwing us under the bus. The Democratic definition of no hate is embracing acceptance of
transgenders, lesbians, homosexuals, terrorists, rioters, cop killers, liars, thieves, drug dealers, terrorist countries, illegal
immigrants, religious teachings that clash with our own and anything else you are made to feel shameful for being against.
Being against something, speaking out for values and having an opinion, stating your mind, freedom of speech, thought and
ideas are things they say are wrong unless it's by someone who is NOT American. Those who refuse to conform to an acceptance
policy practiced by the ultimate TRAITORS of this country...the Democratic Party...are labeled bigots and worse. Americans
have no rights anymore...no right to reject what we feel is wrong, no freedom of religion, patriotism or pride in our
own culture. We can't fly flags, teach American history, speak our mind, chant USA, reject illegals, protect our children or stand
our ground.
That is OBAMA's fault and Hillary wants to continue that way, it is Un-American. You are being stripped of the very essence of
being an American...free speech, freedom of religion, freedom of ideas and in it's place you are being forced to turn your
attention to what you do not believe, accept or want to live by and if you do not you are being told you are bad. What kind
of America is that? 4 years of the tyrant Hillary should be enough to totally stomp out any greatness this country has left.
We will be reprogrammed to accept anything else in place of our own values, morals and beliefs for fear of being ostracized,
criticized and chastised. Stop being a member of the flock and stand on your own 2 feet and fight for what is right. The way
this country is going is towards chaos. Hillary is the engineer for the big train wreak.

YOU HAVE UNTIL THE 11th OF OCTOBER TO REGISTER IN PA. GET OUT THERE EVEN IF YOU VOTE FOR AN INDEPENDENT
IT'S A VOTE AGAINST HILLARY. PA REGISTER ONLINE...you don't even have to get off your duff and into your car...there
is no excuse for what you get and you have no ground to stand on if you don't vote...so keep your opinions to yourself
after election day. Vote and win or lose, at least you can say you voted.......pavoterservices.state.pa.us

You might be able to say a lot of things about Trump but one thing you can't say is he is evil. He has AMERICA's BEST
INTERESTS IN MIND. Hillary IS evil and we are going to pay is she gets elected. Stop listening to CNN and the other brain
washing networks...listen to the actual candidates and do some research for crying out loud...make your own decision based
on what feels right to you, not what you're being told is right.

TREASON is a charge that should be filed against HILLARY CLINTON...and her unfaltering support system, Obama priority one.
DEBATE on Sept 26th...watch it...or watch later on YouTube.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Sep 20, 2016

Free speech and freedom of expression everywhere and to everyone except Americans.

Don't reject immigration of any kind lest you appear to be racist.

Don't say Police lives matter.

Don't balk when a transgender male enters the women's bathroom just because he looks like a woman.

Don't get angry when a boy who wants to be a girl has rights to use the girls gym locker room and the real girls
are told to change in the basement.

Don't get mad when a hygiene lesson on how 'Allah loves cleanliness' shows up in 2nd grade school classes and then is
written off as a mistake by a new teacher who downloaded, printed and distributed it without fully reviewing it. What,
was the lesson 50 pages?? For 2nd graders? Parents were outraged and I would be too, the lesson included how to
clean hijabs and thwabs...Muslim religious clothing. If there was one Muslim in that classroom, why must we accommodate
them when this is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...if so, give them a single, specialized sheet to be in accordance with
our generous/assinine accept all religion stance, DON'T teach it to our AMERICAN children so they can be swayed or confused.

Don't protest when a president elect wants to bring refugees from countries that harbor terrorists to the United States.

Don't say anything phobic at all as defined by the Democrats...homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, sexist, racist..
this could be as simple as saying the NY suspect set off bombs and had ties and made visits back and forth to Afghanistan.
His wife left USA right before the bombings.

Don't say Hillary is sick, crazy, a liar, a thief, a murderer, a cover-up artist but do say Trump is nuts, can't lead, won't
release his taxes, doesn't have experience, is racist, sexist and by saying he wants to make America great again is the
biggest racist ever...just because someone is brainwashing you that even using the word AMERICA along with the word
great is proof of racism.

Hillary looks sick, don't say that either because she has a doctor who will tell you she is the picture of health and Obama
will say you're being sexist. Don't question why she had an episode on 9/11 where she needed to be scooped out of sight
because they have an answer for that...pneumonia...how convenient. Pneumonia is a factor in many more serious
illnesses. Bacterial infectious pneumonia can spread causing problems in other organs. She's old, she's tired, she's hiding
things due to the fact she is not releasing a comprehensive medical report, which should be of utmost importance to the
voting public to have access to, you would think she'd want to release a detailed medical evaluation to show she is physically
capable of running the country without running herself into the ground or grave. People have a right to know who they are
supporting is able to do the job and what issues are worth worrying about. They do not need to be told that everything is
ok just because someone in her corner said it was.

This woman has more lives than a cat..it's not because she is without blame, she is without remorse. She believes America
should take her word for everything. She is unaccountable, she is nearly untouchable and is unfailingly unapologetic.

Do you want deception in the White House, do you want the lies to continue? Do you want to have to conform instead of
confront the problems in this nation by having to turn a blind eye, hold your tongue and accept what you know in your
heart is wrong just because people are telling you this is a nation of NO HATE? Stop hating our nation and start loving it.
Start protecting it and stop throwing us under the bus. The Democratic definition of no hate is embracing acceptance of
transgenders, lesbians, homosexuals, terrorists, rioters, cop killers, liars, thieves, drug dealers, terrorist countries, illegal
immigrants, religious teachings that clash with our own and anything else you are made to feel shameful for being against.
Being against something, speaking out for values and having an opinion, stating your mind, freedom of speech, thought and
ideas are things they say are wrong unless it's by someone who is NOT American. Those who refuse to conform to an acceptance
policy practiced by the ultimate TRAITORS of this country...the Democratic Party...are labeled bigots and worse. Americans
have no rights anymore...no right to reject what we feel is wrong, no freedom of religion, patriotism or pride in our
own culture. We can't fly flags, teach American history, speak our mind, chant USA, reject illegals, protect our children or stand
our ground.
That is OBAMA's fault and Hillary wants to continue that way, it is Un-American. You are being stripped of the very essence of
being an American...free speech, freedom of religion, freedom of ideas and in it's place you are being forced to turn your
attention to what you do not believe, accept or want to live by and if you do not you are being told you are bad. What kind
of America is that? 4 years of the tyrant Hillary should be enough to totally stomp out any greatness this country has left.
We will be reprogrammed to accept anything else in place of our own values, morals and beliefs for fear of being ostracized,
criticized and chastised. Stop being a member of the flock and stand on your own 2 feet and fight for what is right. The way
this country is going is towards chaos. Hillary is the engineer for the big train wreak.

YOU HAVE UNTIL THE 11th OF OCTOBER TO REGISTER IN PA. GET OUT THERE EVEN IF YOU VOTE FOR AN INDEPENDENT
IT'S A VOTE AGAINST HILLARY. PA REGISTER ONLINE...you don't even have to get off your duff and into your car...there
is no excuse for what you get and you have no ground to stand on if you don't vote...so keep your opinions to yourself
after election day. Vote and win or lose, at least you can say you voted.......pavoterservices.state.pa.us

You might be able to say a lot of things about Trump but one thing you can't say is he is evil. He has AMERICA's BEST
INTERESTS IN MIND. Hillary IS evil and we are going to pay is she gets elected. Stop listening to CNN and the other brain
washing networks...listen to the actual candidates and do some research for crying out loud...make your own decision based
on what feels right to you, not what you're being told is right.

TREASON is a charge that should be filed against HILLARY CLINTON...and her unfaltering support system, Obama priority one.
DEBATE on Sept 26th...watch it...or watch later on YouTube.

Excellent post dr65, am passing this post along. US Flag

bigbear29

Now that is how you give a speech, President Obama gives final address to the United Nations.  Trump gives a speech like he is reading from a third grade book.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 20, 2016

Now that is how you give a speech, President Obama gives final address to the United Nations.  Trump gives a speech like he is reading from a third grade book.

bigbear, you are insignificant. My blocked list lengthens.

Obamatized. If you were traumatized, victimized...any other 'ized, you'd be up in arms...don't you see what the guy is doing to
you and has for the last 8 years? He's persuasive..he's sly...he's evil. He is also unapologetic, just like Hillary. He's got you fooled
and you don't even realize it, don't you feel like a stooge? Feel like you've been had? Feel like a traitor? Why are you so willing to
overlook the crimes, the lies, the incompetence and the drive to destroy this country? Are you an American citizen or a hybrid..
one half what they say you should be and the other what they say you should accept? I'll blame your type if America crashes and
burns..that's where we're headed now. I'll blame myself if America becomes what it should be due to the ideologies of a man who
may sound to you like he's reading a third grade book but looks to me like he's pretty much a savior to a country on the brink of
no turning back.

Hey, that's a pretty good word actually....Obamatized....that's what we all were...I'll be ed if I sit back and be Clintonized
on top of it.

Do you have no self-respect? Do you appreciated arrogance in place of respectability? Lies instead of truth? Do you like
a good honest to goodness brainwashing? Do what you want, hold fast to whatever belief they insert in your head, say what
you want..so far, it's still the USA, you have a right to your opinion. I just hope you'll remember that when they take it
away from you - and that's exactly what they're doing right now. Wake up.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 19, 2016

Hillary for president and Commander-in-Chief?

I don't think so;

Hillary Clinton Would Rather Blame Free Speech Than Islam For Terrorism

Hillary just accused the GOP nominee of treason because he used free speech in a manner she dislikes.

Coin Toss, I meant to say ty for those links, that's exactly an example of how upside down everything is..she is the
criminal in lots of ways.

Treachery against country is the highest shame, she made it something people want to cling to instead of reject.

Crafty with words and skillful at deceit is what she's good at why else would anyone believe what she says?

bigbear29

I see what a total IDIOT trump is, that's what I see.  He is nothing but a fear monger.  Trump has not told the truth about anything, not one thing.  RELEASE YOUR TAXES, TRUMP!!!!!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 20, 2016

I see what a total IDIOT trump is, that's what I see.  He is nothing but a fear monger.  Trump has not told the truth about anything, not one thing.  RELEASE YOUR TAXES, TRUMP!!!!!

If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor... obama.

Benghazi was the result of a youtube video... Hillary.

LOL!  Why don't you list Trumps lies.

bigbear29

Trump's home town (New York) polls, Hillary = 51, Trump = 30

 

EVERYDAY FLIP-FLOP for the idiot trump.

bigbear29

Donald Trump supporters want his tax returns released!

 

Donald Trump refuses to release his personal tax returns.

Every presidential nominee from both parties has done it for the past four decades, and there are loud calls from pundits and even Republican leaders such as House Speaker Paul Ryan for Trump to release them.

Now his supporters are joining the chorus.

"I don't know what the hold-up is," said Wayne Kemp, a retiree and Trump supporter in Orlando, Florida.

 

CNNMoney spoke with almost 70 voters in the key swing states of Ohio and Florida in recent days for a "Your money, Your vote" special airing on CNN on October 15. Trump is virtually tied with rival Hillary Clinton in polls in these states. Over and over again, voters solidly backing Trump or leaning toward him said they think Trump should release his tax returns.

MADDOG10's avatarMADDOG10

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 20, 2016

Donald Trump supporters want his tax returns released!

 

Donald Trump refuses to release his personal tax returns.

Every presidential nominee from both parties has done it for the past four decades, and there are loud calls from pundits and even Republican leaders such as House Speaker Paul Ryan for Trump to release them.

Now his supporters are joining the chorus.

"I don't know what the hold-up is," said Wayne Kemp, a retiree and Trump supporter in Orlando, Florida.

 

CNNMoney spoke with almost 70 voters in the key swing states of Ohio and Florida in recent days for a "Your money, Your vote" special airing on CNN on October 15. Trump is virtually tied with rival Hillary Clinton in polls in these states. Over and over again, voters solidly backing Trump or leaning toward him said they think Trump should release his tax returns.

He doesn't have to show his Returns to anyone. There isn't ONE (1) law that says he has to.  So get over it.

secondly Trump supporters aren't asking him to show his returns, because it hasn't a Thing to do with his ability to be President.

As far as Mr. Kemp is concerned , if he wants to see his tax returns , HE IS NOT A TRUMP SUPPORTER.

CNN, like the other Media out lets have padded their polls (FACT). The almost 70 voters they talked were democrats.

Also if your're a CNN believer, you need to vote for Hillybag. 

Any other (BS) you want to get off your chest before you start looking like a bigger fool than you are?

bigbear29

If you can't remember all your lies, you're telling too many

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/simon-says-clinton-trump-lies-228383#ixzz4Koc6rd00
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Truth be told, it isn’t really about Hillary anymore.
Her picture comes on the screen, and you are very tempted to channel surf away from it.
Story Continued Below

But The Donald comes on, that orange pumpkin face fills the screen, and you stop to listen to what new outrage gushes forth from his lips.
It does not matter if what he says is false. That Trump lies on a regular and dismal basis is no longer a question. It is a fact.
For months and months, the national press corps has been tiptoeing around this. But now it has stopped clutching its pearls and has decided to call the truth the truth and a falsehood a falsehood.
“Trump Gives Up a Lie, But Refuses to Repent,” was the front-page headline on Michael Barbaro’s tough-as-nails piece in The New York Times on Friday.
The article, labeled a news analysis, was about “birtherism,” the racist lie that sought to discredit Barack Obama by saying he could not have been born in the United States because no African-American could honestly ascend to such a job.
“It was never true, any of it,” Barbaro wrote. “Mr. Obama’s citizenship was never in question. No credible evidence ever suggested otherwise.
“Yet it took Mr. Trump five years of dodging, winking and joking to surrender to reality, finally, on Friday, after a remarkable campaign of relentless deception that tried to undermine the legitimacy of the nation’s first black president.”
“He nurtured the conspiracy like a poisonous flower, watering and feeding it with an ardor that still baffles and embarrasses many around him.”
But not everybody around Trump is embarrassed. And his staff is paid to be baffled on a full-time basis


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/simon-says-clinton-trump-lies-228383#ixzz4KocM023C
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bigbear29

Why is trump different?  Show your taxes, trump.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by MADDOG10 on Sep 20, 2016

He doesn't have to show his Returns to anyone. There isn't ONE (1) law that says he has to.  So get over it.

secondly Trump supporters aren't asking him to show his returns, because it hasn't a Thing to do with his ability to be President.

As far as Mr. Kemp is concerned , if he wants to see his tax returns , HE IS NOT A TRUMP SUPPORTER.

CNN, like the other Media out lets have padded their polls (FACT). The almost 70 voters they talked were democrats.

Also if your're a CNN believer, you need to vote for Hillybag. 

Any other (BS) you want to get off your chest before you start looking like a bigger fool than you are?

Totally agree MADDOG. CNN is awfully biased against Trump. One recent video was how Trump acted when the
teleprompter wasn't working...I watched it and as much as they wanted to imply his reaction was idiotic or news-
worthy, I didn't see anything there anyone else wouldn't do: Thank goodness they have notes, joke a bit, keep
talking and just get busy with business at hand. Maybe there is a Clinton or Obama teleprompter fail video out
there somewhere, no reports from CNN about that though.

Every single thing the man does is scrutinized and reported as a madman's actions, they can't wait to make news
of nothing at all...as long as they can report Trump and sway opinion that there was something wrong with what
he did, some people are believing it.

Huge double standard going on there at CNN..I don't trust them for anything political and neither should viewers.

bigbear29

Trump could show the tax audit letter!  But trump is probably lying about his taxes.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 20, 2016

Why is trump different?  Show your taxes, trump.

Sow us your taxes Troll.

bigbear29

Ms. troll I'm not running for president.  If trump gets into office, not one thing is going to get done.  Trump, pick up a book or two, get educated!

bigbear29

Barbara Bush and George H. W. Bush stated that they are going to vote for Hillary, mmmmmmmmmm.  I wonder why?

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by MADDOG10 on Sep 20, 2016

He doesn't have to show his Returns to anyone. There isn't ONE (1) law that says he has to.  So get over it.

secondly Trump supporters aren't asking him to show his returns, because it hasn't a Thing to do with his ability to be President.

As far as Mr. Kemp is concerned , if he wants to see his tax returns , HE IS NOT A TRUMP SUPPORTER.

CNN, like the other Media out lets have padded their polls (FACT). The almost 70 voters they talked were democrats.

Also if your're a CNN believer, you need to vote for Hillybag. 

Any other (BS) you want to get off your chest before you start looking like a bigger fool than you are?

      I Agree!    Thank you MADDOG for posting this... I am also getting tired of hearing about people asking for TRUMPS taxes.. like you said... what does it have to do with being a President.. like we don't have bigger issues that need to be address alone worry about someones's tax returns... stop sweating the small issues bigbear29  and pay attention to the bigger issues...anyone that votes for Hillary deserves to get another 4 years  (that's if she makes it another 4 years)..of what they have now.. If you don't see the light now you never will..  you will always be in the dark....

bigbear29

Because it opens up transparency!  You can not ask for transparency from one and not the other.  Trump is running for the biggest job in the USA.  Trump is going to do so, so ,so much, fix so much it is starting to sound totally phony.

 

Another reason for trump to release his taxes:  Trump used $258,000 from his charity to settle legal problems.  If true, that is not his money.

 

Donald Trump spent more than a quarter-million dollars from his charitable foundation to settle lawsuits that involved the billionaire’s for-profit businesses, according to interviews and a review of legal documents.

Those cases, which together used $258,000 from Trump’s charity, were among four newly documented expenditures in which Trump may have violated laws against “self-dealing” — which prohibit nonprofit leaders from using charity money to benefit themselves or their businesses.

bigbear29

If I was trump's campaign manager, he would have released his taxes at the beginning.  Time to explain, clean up, may it right, or apologize and state I was a different person when I did this or that.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 20, 2016

Barbara Bush and George H. W. Bush stated that they are going to vote for Hillary, mmmmmmmmmm.  I wonder why?

Another reason to vote for Trump.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Sep 20, 2016

Coin Toss, I meant to say ty for those links, that's exactly an example of how upside down everything is..she is the
criminal in lots of ways.

Treachery against country is the highest shame, she made it something people want to cling to instead of reject.

Crafty with words and skillful at deceit is what she's good at why else would anyone believe what she says?

dr65,

No problem. Your post about free speech not for Americans was excellent.

Tami333's avatarTami333

Someone should just start a new thread and make it a "Poll", Who will you vote for Trump or Clinton?

Drum Trump..Trump Trump Drum Patriot

Deo-nonfortuna

Quote: Originally posted by Tami333 on Sep 20, 2016

Someone should just start a new thread and make it a "Poll", Who will you vote for Trump or Clinton?

Drum Trump..Trump Trump Drum Patriot

It's eerie how much she looks like Ben Franklyn.

 

     Image result for ben franklin

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Tami333 on Sep 20, 2016

Someone should just start a new thread and make it a "Poll", Who will you vote for Trump or Clinton?

Drum Trump..Trump Trump Drum Patriot

That's a good idea but it won't fly.  This is a lottery website not the Drudge Report.  But I might give it a try, tying politics with the lottery.  LOL!  What's the worst that can happen?   Todd will delete it.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 20, 2016

Why is trump different?  Show your taxes, trump.

The never made Adolph Hitler show his taxes so why Trump show his?

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 20, 2016

The never made Adolph Hitler show his taxes so why Trump show his?

That disqualifies you from taking any further part in this discussion...or it ends the discussion completely, I never was too clear on the specifics of the meme.

 photo godwin_zpspm7dvtof.jpg

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Sep 20, 2016

That disqualifies you from taking any further part in this discussion...or it ends the discussion completely, I never was too clear on the specifics of the meme.

 photo godwin_zpspm7dvtof.jpg

Please don't say Trump reminds you of Abe LIncoln.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 21, 2016

Please don't say Trump reminds you of Abe LIncoln.

Good grief, no.  I liken this election more to The Wizard of Oz than anything based in actual reality. 

If Trump had more of a blue complexion than orange, he would be the spittin' image of one of those flying monkeys.

 photo wizard-of-oz_zpsiedhs2ar.jpg

Of course, that's Hillary on the right.

I'm more worried about just who is the "man behind the curtain".  Heaven help us all if it's George Soros...or Putin...or worse yet, Karl Rove.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 20, 2016

Ms. troll I'm not running for president.  If trump gets into office, not one thing is going to get done.  Trump, pick up a book or two, get educated!

He has a degree in economics...... He is educated, but he knows his audience. The whole notion of Trump really being so ignorant just doesn't match realty.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 17, 2016

Most people vote for someone because they believe that person will make a good President?  That's true with Trump voters.  Not true with Hillary voters.  They vote for Hillary because she's a democrat or a woman... I wouldn't call that a good reason, would you? 

And as a side note.... How come no one at a Hillary rally chants " USA...USA...USA"?  They chant that at Trump rallies all the time.  Don't democrats love this country?

More Clinton voters support Clinton because they like her than Trump supporters who like Trump. Will post link later when I get home.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 14, 2016

I love the Hillary tv ads where they ask Trump what sacrifices he has made.  What sacrifices has Hillary EVER made? Not counting human sacrifices of course...lol. Be very scared if Kaine is ever president. He is more of a socialist than Obama.

Two of the most extreme right wing politicians in the DemoConservative Party and you have the nerve to say that these right wingers are socialists? That is an insult to real socialists.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 10, 2016

You are totally brainwashed. Obama has ran the debt up to almost $20  trillion and has spent more money than all the previous presidents combined. 

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Regean Tripled the debt

Baby Bush Doubled the debt

Obama increased it by 50%. 

Percentage not absolute increase is the proper measure.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Sep 20, 2016

Free speech and freedom of expression everywhere and to everyone except Americans.

Don't reject immigration of any kind lest you appear to be racist.

Don't say Police lives matter.

Don't balk when a transgender male enters the women's bathroom just because he looks like a woman.

Don't get angry when a boy who wants to be a girl has rights to use the girls gym locker room and the real girls
are told to change in the basement.

Don't get mad when a hygiene lesson on how 'Allah loves cleanliness' shows up in 2nd grade school classes and then is
written off as a mistake by a new teacher who downloaded, printed and distributed it without fully reviewing it. What,
was the lesson 50 pages?? For 2nd graders? Parents were outraged and I would be too, the lesson included how to
clean hijabs and thwabs...Muslim religious clothing. If there was one Muslim in that classroom, why must we accommodate
them when this is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...if so, give them a single, specialized sheet to be in accordance with
our generous/assinine accept all religion stance, DON'T teach it to our AMERICAN children so they can be swayed or confused.

Don't protest when a president elect wants to bring refugees from countries that harbor terrorists to the United States.

Don't say anything phobic at all as defined by the Democrats...homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, sexist, racist..
this could be as simple as saying the NY suspect set off bombs and had ties and made visits back and forth to Afghanistan.
His wife left USA right before the bombings.

Don't say Hillary is sick, crazy, a liar, a thief, a murderer, a cover-up artist but do say Trump is nuts, can't lead, won't
release his taxes, doesn't have experience, is racist, sexist and by saying he wants to make America great again is the
biggest racist ever...just because someone is brainwashing you that even using the word AMERICA along with the word
great is proof of racism.

Hillary looks sick, don't say that either because she has a doctor who will tell you she is the picture of health and Obama
will say you're being sexist. Don't question why she had an episode on 9/11 where she needed to be scooped out of sight
because they have an answer for that...pneumonia...how convenient. Pneumonia is a factor in many more serious
illnesses. Bacterial infectious pneumonia can spread causing problems in other organs. She's old, she's tired, she's hiding
things due to the fact she is not releasing a comprehensive medical report, which should be of utmost importance to the
voting public to have access to, you would think she'd want to release a detailed medical evaluation to show she is physically
capable of running the country without running herself into the ground or grave. People have a right to know who they are
supporting is able to do the job and what issues are worth worrying about. They do not need to be told that everything is
ok just because someone in her corner said it was.

This woman has more lives than a cat..it's not because she is without blame, she is without remorse. She believes America
should take her word for everything. She is unaccountable, she is nearly untouchable and is unfailingly unapologetic.

Do you want deception in the White House, do you want the lies to continue? Do you want to have to conform instead of
confront the problems in this nation by having to turn a blind eye, hold your tongue and accept what you know in your
heart is wrong just because people are telling you this is a nation of NO HATE? Stop hating our nation and start loving it.
Start protecting it and stop throwing us under the bus. The Democratic definition of no hate is embracing acceptance of
transgenders, lesbians, homosexuals, terrorists, rioters, cop killers, liars, thieves, drug dealers, terrorist countries, illegal
immigrants, religious teachings that clash with our own and anything else you are made to feel shameful for being against.
Being against something, speaking out for values and having an opinion, stating your mind, freedom of speech, thought and
ideas are things they say are wrong unless it's by someone who is NOT American. Those who refuse to conform to an acceptance
policy practiced by the ultimate TRAITORS of this country...the Democratic Party...are labeled bigots and worse. Americans
have no rights anymore...no right to reject what we feel is wrong, no freedom of religion, patriotism or pride in our
own culture. We can't fly flags, teach American history, speak our mind, chant USA, reject illegals, protect our children or stand
our ground.
That is OBAMA's fault and Hillary wants to continue that way, it is Un-American. You are being stripped of the very essence of
being an American...free speech, freedom of religion, freedom of ideas and in it's place you are being forced to turn your
attention to what you do not believe, accept or want to live by and if you do not you are being told you are bad. What kind
of America is that? 4 years of the tyrant Hillary should be enough to totally stomp out any greatness this country has left.
We will be reprogrammed to accept anything else in place of our own values, morals and beliefs for fear of being ostracized,
criticized and chastised. Stop being a member of the flock and stand on your own 2 feet and fight for what is right. The way
this country is going is towards chaos. Hillary is the engineer for the big train wreak.

YOU HAVE UNTIL THE 11th OF OCTOBER TO REGISTER IN PA. GET OUT THERE EVEN IF YOU VOTE FOR AN INDEPENDENT
IT'S A VOTE AGAINST HILLARY. PA REGISTER ONLINE...you don't even have to get off your duff and into your car...there
is no excuse for what you get and you have no ground to stand on if you don't vote...so keep your opinions to yourself
after election day. Vote and win or lose, at least you can say you voted.......pavoterservices.state.pa.us

You might be able to say a lot of things about Trump but one thing you can't say is he is evil. He has AMERICA's BEST
INTERESTS IN MIND. Hillary IS evil and we are going to pay is she gets elected. Stop listening to CNN and the other brain
washing networks...listen to the actual candidates and do some research for crying out loud...make your own decision based
on what feels right to you, not what you're being told is right.

TREASON is a charge that should be filed against HILLARY CLINTON...and her unfaltering support system, Obama priority one.
DEBATE on Sept 26th...watch it...or watch later on YouTube.

Your ability to hate and attack other people is being taken away and thus America is becoming a dictatorship!! You say Hillary hasn't released enough health records, yet the only Trump released was a note saying results were astoundingly excellent which isn't a real diagnosis.

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 21, 2016

Regean Tripled the debt

Baby Bush Doubled the debt

Obama increased it by 50%. 

Percentage not absolute increase is the proper measure.

Your math is wrong. Obama doubled the national debt from from 10 trillion to 20 trillion, that is a 100% increase not 50% as you claim.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trump had a rally in Chester Township, PA yesterday.  For those of you who didn't watch, you really need to see it.  It was a fantastic speech.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Sep 21, 2016

Good grief, no.  I liken this election more to The Wizard of Oz than anything based in actual reality. 

If Trump had more of a blue complexion than orange, he would be the spittin' image of one of those flying monkeys.

 photo wizard-of-oz_zpsiedhs2ar.jpg

Of course, that's Hillary on the right.

I'm more worried about just who is the "man behind the curtain".  Heaven help us all if it's George Soros...or Putin...or worse yet, Karl Rove.

LOL

A year ago I though a moderate Trump could really shake-up the Republican Party, but by slowly trying to appeal to the base, he started sounding dishonest. IMO the majority of the undecided will decide after the first debate.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Remember that everytime Obama is caught in another lie (such as saying he did not know about HRC's 

private email account), Trump gets more votes. I love how some people in this forum who said Trump would not win, seem to be backsliding and adding contigencies.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 23, 2016

Trump had a rally in Chester Township, PA yesterday.  For those of you who didn't watch, you really need to see it.  It was a fantastic speech.

ty greenbay!

dr65's avatardr65

King I was wondering where you were and here you are...yes, America is headed toward dictatorship. 

Hillary will take you there.

I said there were things I do not like and I have a right to reject what I do not agree with, that doesn't make

me a hater or a racist. 

One day when something you value is modified, twisted or attacked you'll see. Right now, you're not threatened

because you're a subject of brainwashing and exactly what the Democrats want, non-resistant, agreeable natured,

an easily influenced go along. You make their job easier. It's like a contagion..give it to one and watch it spread, the 

more it spreads the more powerful it is and the more vulnerable the victims of it are..you've got a disease, it's called

imokyoureokitis..you've been groomed to accept. Do you have no values or standards? Or is anything goes acceptable

to you as long as it doesn't interfere with your daily routine? There are enough laid back people like that in the world,

just watching everything go by and saying heh, doesn't affect me so, so what. One day it will.

Tell me why I have to snuff out my preferences in favor of someone else's? Isn't that a form of racism? Calling me a 

bigot or saying my type is phobic is wrong because of what I believe?? But, that doesn't matter because liberals want

me to dump my values in favor of a love all, accept all and accommodate all mindset. AND they want to push it on

everyone else. I don't go out and riot or carry signs or kill people, I don't say anyone else should either. What I do

say is keep men dressing as women out of my restroom, keep children on track with their own religion, keep illegals

out of this country, keep refugees out too, stop the flow of Mexicans into this country and get the drugs the he*ll out

with them, beef up borders, toughen immigration laws and processes, keep terrorists out and if that means scrutinizing

every dam*n application for citizenship or entry into this country then so be it. Get the suspects out of our country,

keep love of country alive, keep religion alive, keep American history alive and most importantly MAKE THE REAL RACISTS

ACCOUNTABLE. Don't dilute the issue as to identify everyone a racist or phobic because of personally held beliefs that

just years ago were perfectly acceptable. These days you can't say Police Lives Matter or All Lives Matter or Unborn Lives

Matter...the only thing you can say is Black Lives Matter and they do but the meaning of that statement has been warped

and expanded in the wrong direction to incite rage instead of understanding. 

I find you a larger danger than anyone like me, I'm not a racist but at least I'm something solid. You on the other hand

are weak. Constantly changing for the benefit of someone else and to accept whatever is pushed on you and believing 

whatever you're told is lazy, idiotic and without solidity. You're putty in a liberals hands, they like you that way and you're

just the type they want to fill the voting ranks with...brain dead followers who need a leader to tell them what they should

believe, adhere to and become. 

I'm not putty. I'm not weak. I'm not stupid. I'm not racist. I'm not brain dead either. I refuse to be stripped of my own

rights in favor of someone else's view of how I should be thinking. This is the United States and I'll be *ed if anyone

will take my rights as a citizen of it away. 

Oh..someone on YouTube criticized Disney sales of a Polynesian character's Halloween costume from their new movie Moana.

They said it was offensive for children to dress up as another race. LOL that's stretching things, really. This is where issues

lose credibility. Why can't children dress up as a character in a movie? Now it's so politically correct, it's ridiculous where we

are headed with this whole race issue, wouldn't you agree??

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Sep 24, 2016

King I was wondering where you were and here you are...yes, America is headed toward dictatorship. 

Hillary will take you there.

I said there were things I do not like and I have a right to reject what I do not agree with, that doesn't make

me a hater or a racist. 

One day when something you value is modified, twisted or attacked you'll see. Right now, you're not threatened

because you're a subject of brainwashing and exactly what the Democrats want, non-resistant, agreeable natured,

an easily influenced go along. You make their job easier. It's like a contagion..give it to one and watch it spread, the 

more it spreads the more powerful it is and the more vulnerable the victims of it are..you've got a disease, it's called

imokyoureokitis..you've been groomed to accept. Do you have no values or standards? Or is anything goes acceptable

to you as long as it doesn't interfere with your daily routine? There are enough laid back people like that in the world,

just watching everything go by and saying heh, doesn't affect me so, so what. One day it will.

Tell me why I have to snuff out my preferences in favor of someone else's? Isn't that a form of racism? Calling me a 

bigot or saying my type is phobic is wrong because of what I believe?? But, that doesn't matter because liberals want

me to dump my values in favor of a love all, accept all and accommodate all mindset. AND they want to push it on

everyone else. I don't go out and riot or carry signs or kill people, I don't say anyone else should either. What I do

say is keep men dressing as women out of my restroom, keep children on track with their own religion, keep illegals

out of this country, keep refugees out too, stop the flow of Mexicans into this country and get the drugs the he*ll out

with them, beef up borders, toughen immigration laws and processes, keep terrorists out and if that means scrutinizing

every dam*n application for citizenship or entry into this country then so be it. Get the suspects out of our country,

keep love of country alive, keep religion alive, keep American history alive and most importantly MAKE THE REAL RACISTS

ACCOUNTABLE. Don't dilute the issue as to identify everyone a racist or phobic because of personally held beliefs that

just years ago were perfectly acceptable. These days you can't say Police Lives Matter or All Lives Matter or Unborn Lives

Matter...the only thing you can say is Black Lives Matter and they do but the meaning of that statement has been warped

and expanded in the wrong direction to incite rage instead of understanding. 

I find you a larger danger than anyone like me, I'm not a racist but at least I'm something solid. You on the other hand

are weak. Constantly changing for the benefit of someone else and to accept whatever is pushed on you and believing 

whatever you're told is lazy, idiotic and without solidity. You're putty in a liberals hands, they like you that way and you're

just the type they want to fill the voting ranks with...brain dead followers who need a leader to tell them what they should

believe, adhere to and become. 

I'm not putty. I'm not weak. I'm not stupid. I'm not racist. I'm not brain dead either. I refuse to be stripped of my own

rights in favor of someone else's view of how I should be thinking. This is the United States and I'll be *ed if anyone

will take my rights as a citizen of it away. 

Oh..someone on YouTube criticized Disney sales of a Polynesian character's Halloween costume from their new movie Moana.

They said it was offensive for children to dress up as another race. LOL that's stretching things, really. This is where issues

lose credibility. Why can't children dress up as a character in a movie? Now it's so politically correct, it's ridiculous where we

are headed with this whole race issue, wouldn't you agree??

Very well said dr65.

In a nutshell. Everything is so PC these days. And that is going to bring our country to ruin.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Read the Amazon comments on Hillary's book Stronger Together. It is the one with Kaine giving a Nazi salute on the cover. Amazon deleted a lot of comments but even the existing ones will have you laughing. I plan to order it to learn to set up a server in my bathroom. Lol lol

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 25, 2016

Read the Amazon comments on Hillary's book Stronger Together. It is the one with Kaine giving a Nazi salute on the cover. Amazon deleted a lot of comments but even the existing ones will have you laughing. I plan to order it to learn to set up a server in my bathroom. Lol lol

You're not kidding!  Sometimes the comments under an article are better than the article itself.   I'm heartened by the posts under pro-Clinton and anti-Trump articles in the Washington Post or on Yahoo and many other blatantly pro-Dem sites.  People are fed up.

I didn't read many of the comments on Amazon, but this one was great:  "On a technical level, the book is well written in that the authors give concise details of all their plans for America once they get their hands on her, if they do, that is. But I'd rather listen to a serial killer spend hours telling me all that he's going to do to me before he finally snuffs out my last breath. ", although this one is the best: "I ordered this book from the Clinton Foundation for 2.5 million USD. It came with a certificate good for one free ambassadorship and a guaranteed seat on the State Department advisory board. I only give it one star because when I received the book I found all the pages had been deleted."

The funniest comments I ever saw online though,  were those under Ree Drummond AKA  The Pioneer Woman's "recipe" for frozen grapes.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 25, 2016

Read the Amazon comments on Hillary's book Stronger Together. It is the one with Kaine giving a Nazi salute on the cover. Amazon deleted a lot of comments but even the existing ones will have you laughing. I plan to order it to learn to set up a server in my bathroom. Lol lol

Artist, I wish censorship was universal and not just used as a tool to make things appear better than

they really are.

Someone said on the reviews that the last time they looked, there were almost 900 reviews..the latest

time they checked back it was 209...wouldn't it be safe to say we can do that with the poll numbers?

Trump is winning and someone else is busy making fudge.

bigbear29

trump running scared!  I see where trump invited Gennifer flowers to sit in the front row of the debate. 

(Bill Clinton's Former Mistress)

Artist77's avatarArtist77

You know Trump must be really far ahead in the polls for the WAPO to acknowledge a dead heat. Lol

Has anyone else seen the clip of Hillary on 9-11 but from the back right side angle? That is not a fainting spell...looks like a stroke. Look at the rigidness. Or Maybe Lou Gehrig disease.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 25, 2016

trump running scared!  I see where trump invited Gennifer flowers to sit in the front row of the debate. 

(Bill Clinton's Former Mistress)

Funny how dems like you twist the truth.  There's a movement here and Trump will win at a landslide.

bigbear29

Wow!  Thanks for the info Dr. Artist77.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 25, 2016

Wow!  Thanks for the info Dr. Artist77.

Look at Hillary's eyes during the debate tomorrow.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 25, 2016

Look at Hillary's eyes during the debate tomorrow.

Exactly.

They say the eyes are the windows to the soul. 

I wouldn't miss this for the world.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Sep 25, 2016

Exactly.

They say the eyes are the windows to the soul. 

I wouldn't miss this for the world.

Thats true.  Trump speaks from the heart and people can sense that.  Hillary speaks from her bank account.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 25, 2016

Look at Hillary's eyes during the debate tomorrow.

LIGB:   I Agree!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>........"but" if she wear'$ the dark glasse"$" Psyko thinks.......Idea

DanceDanceDance SHE will be a "WIENNER" DanceDanceDance don't you????

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 25, 2016

Wow!  Thanks for the info Dr. Artist77.

You are most welcome! I guess most lp members are more qualified than HRC's doctor.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 25, 2016

Thats true.  Trump speaks from the heart and people can sense that.  Hillary speaks from her bank account.

100% agree! 

I'm so eager to see this debate.

I took Artists suggestion and went over and read some of the reviews on Amazon..funny for sure. There are a lot of

people that just do not like her and I'm so glad that all people aren't willing to be fed the lies and hogwash they're

serving up. Where is she anyway??? Getting ready for the debate? Get the he** up there and speak from your heart

Hillary...no intense practice necessary unless your heart is something you need to hide instead of wear on your sleeve. 

Mark Cuban the billionaire and owner of the Mavericks got an invite to sit in the front row...HE's got things to lose with

Trump as president and know what? Trump doesn't care..LOL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

This will be the most watched Presidential debate in history.  I hope Trump acts like Trump.  That's who I voted for in the primary.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 25, 2016

Look at Hillary's eyes during the debate tomorrow.

Oh, I wouldn't advise that;  you might turn to stone.

 photo hillary-medusa_zpsu8h63zse.jpg

OTOH, that would explain why Hillary supporters are dumb as a box of rocks.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Isnt that the truth!  That is the best picture of Hitlery I have seen, EVIL.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Did you read where HRC wants special treatment for the debate? And not just the podium issue. Her staff is demanding that Lester Holt fact check Trump during the debate since she can't debate and fact check. Lol Even George S. asked on tv, isn't that her role as a debater?

bigbear29

Yes, Lester Holt should be the final fact checker because Hillary and trump lie.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

I Will be watching. Patriot

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 26, 2016

Did you read where HRC wants special treatment for the debate? And not just the podium issue. Her staff is demanding that Lester Holt fact check Trump during the debate since she can't debate and fact check. Lol Even George S. asked on tv, isn't that her role as a debater?

  A77: I Agree! Sad Cheers .....but, Idea  weiner>>>weinner>>> "turkey" dinner Turkey bet bet U Bobblehead  win'$ the>>>                 DanceDanceDance  very first debate tonight  9/26/16 DanceDanceDance

dr65's avatardr65

Non White voters by various polls show strong support for Hillary. 

Why did you believe the news networks and newspapers that told you Trump will do nothing for blacks

and hispanics and other minorities? 

Do you not get it by now? 

You really have to think about what gains you've had with Obama. Are there any besides Obama feeling like a father to

Trayvon or that he might've looked like him in 35 years? Is there anything more that Obama did for you except fan the

flames of racism in your minds and hearts? Instead of working with you and for you, he acted against you. The great

speaker incited violence instead of quelling it, he brought attention and opinion to a depressed people not in the way a 

true leader does but for his own gains. Pour gas on a fire and watch what happens. You listen because he's black but listen

to his words...they're empty yet seem to hit the heart, he's done very well to come up with the words to describe how he 

feels and what he thinks but what good does it do to talk? Talk is cheap and so is Obama.

Iran received a major payment of $400 million and on top of that it was agreed they were to be paid $1.7 billion in interest.

This all looks good for international relations but what does it do for you? The real question is what could it have done for 

you? Lots.

Inner cities look awful, crime rates are soaring, dropping out of high school is rampant, drug use and addiction is out of control,

teen age pregnancy is way up and the minorities are paying dearly for our presidents image globally and domestically. He 

doesn't care about you. He's a successful black man who walks the walk and talks the talk but it's not the talk disadvantaged

Americans need. He's a career politician who is bent on rubbing elbows with the advantaged, not disadvantaged.

Hillary a successful white woman with the same ideas as Obama will further repress minorities. Offering abortions, welfare, public

housing, lip service that doesn't help you. The Democrats give you a ladder but they broke the rungs off the bottom so you can't

use it, you can only stand there in front of it and look at the top, where you should be but will never get to with Hillary. They want

you right where you are so they can talk some more about how they're for rights and equality. Obama is a white black man. He

doesn't feel the struggle, pain, hardship and despair of a real black man. Hillary is a white woman. She never felt the way black

men and women, teenagers and children do and never will. It sickens me that in order to connect, Obama has to hide his grip on

the English language that's appropriate for the ears of the elite and talk in a more black - more human - fashion with his

clipped words and racial jive to the minorities. He appeals to voters by reducing himself, and that's what he's doing, reducing himself

to your level or what he thinks is your level. That's a condescending insult. 

Minorities please take a look and reconsider your support for the Democratic evil. Racism is far more dangerous when you can't see it

outright. To be set up to fail is what is being done to your families and communities. Words don't work, actions do. Do you really think

that because CNN tells you or because Hillary and Obama call Trump racist that he is? Keeping refugees out of this country only benefits

Americans and last time I looked, every single bona fide, legal minority is American. Elect Hillary and get more of the same pompous

white idea of what's right for you. Iran doesn't need that money but Obama needed those hostages, which means that he didn't need

you, neither did Hillary. But they need your vote now. Are you sick of being used? Aren't you sick of being abused? 

Trump is a loaded white man. But when he says he's going to help minorities..AMERICAN minorities...I believe him and AGREE 100%

with him that's exactly what we need and it's going to happen. 

Hillary? Think long and hard and watch the debate. She'll say he's racist...but listen to the substance instead of the fringe...saying

he wants to keep refugees and illegals out and yes, even ship them out to make them do it right is NOT racist, it's needed to ensure

attention is focused on where it should be...on our own deprived, ingored and discarded black, hispanic and ethnic American people.

Do not fall into the trap of not rising to where you can be and being stuck where you are now. In 8 years did anything change?

Obama did that...nothing. Don't give him anything more. 8 years ago he got your vote because you thought a black man would

relate. He best related to the white, successful, silver spooned, elitists of DC. He rubbed elbows instead of pushed up sleeves.

Trump can't pull off that big of a lie and get away with it..the man has a heart, he wants to help. He doesn't have an agenda other

than to Make America Great and yes, it has everything to do with race and making things better.

dr65's avatardr65

YES. This is that important to me and it should be to you too.

Watch the debate. Watch their faces. Watch the reaction. 

Most of all, come November 8th, watch who you vote for - don't

continue on the wrong path. Hillary = Obama. 12 years total it

would be of service..self-service. Keep her out or keep all of us out.

You decide.

bigbear29

Trump will not do one thing for blacks, hispanics and other minorities.  You have to look at trump's pass history!  Trump is a TOTAL liar and your post is not totally correct about President Obama!  Trump should release his TAXES!!!!!  Trump has put people OUT OF WORK!  You need to know the real TRUMP!

bigbear29

Blacks, Hispanics and other minorities are not going to vote for trump!  Trump is not the white SAVIOR!

bigbear29

Why do you think trump kept the Obama Birther movement going for 5 years?

bigbear29

Trump has not even released the LETTER that states his taxes are in audit.  Trump is not transparent!  That is going to hurt him some.

dr65's avatardr65

I usually could care less about blogs but one must see is the Lottery Post Blog .... go see the video by the Dr. on Hillary.

Ty Todd.

I was looking for something and very glad I found it.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 26, 2016

Trump has not even released the LETTER that states his taxes are in audit.  Trump is not transparent!  That is going to hurt him some.

No one cares other than you.  I'm going to vote for the person who doesn't bark like a dog.  Tell the truth bigbear... If a Republican nominee for President did that, would they still be in the race?  Be honest now.

bigbear29

Trump's Tax Plan Reveals His Contempt for the Middle Class:

A couple of days ago, NYU law professor Lily Batchelder released a paper that takes a close look at the details of Donald Trump's tax plan. She concludes that several million middle-class families will pay more under Trump's plan than they do now.

 

The top 1% = 15% increase in after tax income!!!!!!!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 26, 2016

Trump's Tax Plan Reveals His Contempt for the Middle Class:

A couple of days ago, NYU law professor Lily Batchelder released a paper that takes a close look at the details of Donald Trump's tax plan. She concludes that several million middle-class families will pay more under Trump's plan than they do now.

 

The top 1% = 15% increase in after tax income!!!!!!!

NYU law professor?  LOL!  Lily?  LOL!  Give me a break.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Wow!!! Todd has a great blog. My other theory is that HRC has Lou Gehrig's disease.

 A number of minorities in my office have confided in me that they support Trump. They said Trump = jobs and more money.

dr65's avatardr65

OK had to come back....check out that REMIX!! on the blog page LOTTERY POST JOURNAL.

I didn't click it because I hated the original....I LOVE Marvel too....so sad....now when I see Iron Man, Hulk or

Black Widow....I'll be seeing Hillary's face there..

But Todd's got the GREATEST remix there..watch that too...wow, busy day today LOL

Click on the remix cause the ad after it's over is the real one...

Go on the blue bar at the top of the page, hover over members...drop down and click blogs homepage, you'll find

it there.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 26, 2016

Wow!!! Todd has a great blog. My other theory is that HRC has Lou Gehrig's disease.

 A number of minorities in my office have confided in me that they support Trump. They said Trump = jobs and more money.

Yeah, doesn't he? Party

I know minorities support Trump.

They've blown this thing out of proportion, way out. 

Did you see that girl in the remix that held up the folded cloth that said LET THEM HEEL said by Hillary Clinton?

Did you see Trump stitching the flag lol!

Perfect.

Did you see the end the remix, if his words and that backdrop do nothing for these people, they are too far gone.

bigbear29

We will see soon if minorities support trump.

 

99 percent of black voters back Hillary Clinton over ‘racially intolerant’ Donald Trump

 

This was supposed to be the post-Barack Obama presidential election when Republicans regained a modest share of the black vote, but Donald Trump has watched support among these voters fade nationwide and in battleground states where minorities could play a decisive role.

The Republican presidential nominee is missing a golden opportunity to make inroads to black communities. Worse yet for the New York real estate mogul, he is driving black voters to Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton — in one survey he attracted just 1 percent of blacks — by appearing racially insensitive or even intolerant, warned Republican campaign veterans.

“The Muslim issues — the same thing with attacking the [Mexican-American] judge — it makes him look intolerant,” a Republican strategist said privately. “The worst thing you can call anybody in society these days, other than a murderer or a rapist or a child molester, is a racist.”

Early on, Mr. Trump had an opening with black voters, who, like the majority of all voters, said they don’t trust Mrs. Clinton. But the opening rapidly closed as black voters increasingly came to distrust Mr. Trump.

Mr. Trump touts his support among minorities and has made overt appeals to black voters, including making the case that President Obama’s policies have left them behind with unemployment rates double that of whites.

“I will do more for the African-American people than Barack Obama has ever done,” Mr. Trump declared at a recent rally in Phoenix.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Congrat'$ Todd:

Psyko  "here" too second-D-motion on this great "thread" that will "bust" out over 100,000,000 views before this thing is through>>>>>>>>>>>>How does it feel to B the moderator heard all all over the Lottery World?????       Will U "FAT" CHECK!!!!!!   Naughty     

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 26, 2016

We will see soon if minorities support trump.

 

99 percent of black voters back Hillary Clinton over ‘racially intolerant’ Donald Trump

 

This was supposed to be the post-Barack Obama presidential election when Republicans regained a modest share of the black vote, but Donald Trump has watched support among these voters fade nationwide and in battleground states where minorities could play a decisive role.

The Republican presidential nominee is missing a golden opportunity to make inroads to black communities. Worse yet for the New York real estate mogul, he is driving black voters to Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton — in one survey he attracted just 1 percent of blacks — by appearing racially insensitive or even intolerant, warned Republican campaign veterans.

“The Muslim issues — the same thing with attacking the [Mexican-American] judge — it makes him look intolerant,” a Republican strategist said privately. “The worst thing you can call anybody in society these days, other than a murderer or a rapist or a child molester, is a racist.”

Early on, Mr. Trump had an opening with black voters, who, like the majority of all voters, said they don’t trust Mrs. Clinton. But the opening rapidly closed as black voters increasingly came to distrust Mr. Trump.

Mr. Trump touts his support among minorities and has made overt appeals to black voters, including making the case that President Obama’s policies have left them behind with unemployment rates double that of whites.

“I will do more for the African-American people than Barack Obama has ever done,” Mr. Trump declared at a recent rally in Phoenix.

We will soon see if the silent majority support Trump.  They've been silent way too long.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

I am sure African Americans love being told by the liberal media how they all think and act as if they all share one brain.

dr65's avatardr65

According to CNN Mark Cuban has arrived...oh such Drama Queens...Roll Eyes

 

Oh and I forgot..it's red banner breaking news! 

What's he going to do? Posture? He's about postured out by the posh and money in that arena.

Threaten? lmao! Trump is taking on the biggest threat there is, no one's going to sweat over little

old Mark.

I've got a tip for CNN...report the news not the tabloid garbage.

bigbear29

Wow, I guess black people watch the same news stations.  I watch all of than so I don't become stupid like some people.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Oh.....and Mark Cuban will be sitting on the front row where he is suppose to sit per HRC instructions....but and  World News is reporting that Geennifer Flowers>>>Paula Jones>>>and>>>Katlleen Willy are "all" fighting for to    who will be the one sitting on the front row ND second debate......Bash   Dunk   Hit With Stick.......go>>go>>go Stooges

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 26, 2016

Blacks, Hispanics and other minorities are not going to vote for trump!  Trump is not the white SAVIOR!

Hate to bust your bubble, This American Indian is voting Trump.

US Flag

I got my Card, unlike Elizabeth Warren who has no card.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Sep 26, 2016

Hate to bust your bubble, This American Indian is voting Trump.

US Flag

I got my Card, unlike Elizabeth Warren who has no card.

Ty sully!! Hurray!   US Flag

I can't see what 'bamabear is saying, I've got him blocked but I guess, by the looks of it, he's running out of bubbles LOL

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Sep 24, 2016

King I was wondering where you were and here you are...yes, America is headed toward dictatorship. 

Hillary will take you there.

I said there were things I do not like and I have a right to reject what I do not agree with, that doesn't make

me a hater or a racist. 

One day when something you value is modified, twisted or attacked you'll see. Right now, you're not threatened

because you're a subject of brainwashing and exactly what the Democrats want, non-resistant, agreeable natured,

an easily influenced go along. You make their job easier. It's like a contagion..give it to one and watch it spread, the 

more it spreads the more powerful it is and the more vulnerable the victims of it are..you've got a disease, it's called

imokyoureokitis..you've been groomed to accept. Do you have no values or standards? Or is anything goes acceptable

to you as long as it doesn't interfere with your daily routine? There are enough laid back people like that in the world,

just watching everything go by and saying heh, doesn't affect me so, so what. One day it will.

Tell me why I have to snuff out my preferences in favor of someone else's? Isn't that a form of racism? Calling me a 

bigot or saying my type is phobic is wrong because of what I believe?? But, that doesn't matter because liberals want

me to dump my values in favor of a love all, accept all and accommodate all mindset. AND they want to push it on

everyone else. I don't go out and riot or carry signs or kill people, I don't say anyone else should either. What I do

say is keep men dressing as women out of my restroom, keep children on track with their own religion, keep illegals

out of this country, keep refugees out too, stop the flow of Mexicans into this country and get the drugs the he*ll out

with them, beef up borders, toughen immigration laws and processes, keep terrorists out and if that means scrutinizing

every dam*n application for citizenship or entry into this country then so be it. Get the suspects out of our country,

keep love of country alive, keep religion alive, keep American history alive and most importantly MAKE THE REAL RACISTS

ACCOUNTABLE. Don't dilute the issue as to identify everyone a racist or phobic because of personally held beliefs that

just years ago were perfectly acceptable. These days you can't say Police Lives Matter or All Lives Matter or Unborn Lives

Matter...the only thing you can say is Black Lives Matter and they do but the meaning of that statement has been warped

and expanded in the wrong direction to incite rage instead of understanding. 

I find you a larger danger than anyone like me, I'm not a racist but at least I'm something solid. You on the other hand

are weak. Constantly changing for the benefit of someone else and to accept whatever is pushed on you and believing 

whatever you're told is lazy, idiotic and without solidity. You're putty in a liberals hands, they like you that way and you're

just the type they want to fill the voting ranks with...brain dead followers who need a leader to tell them what they should

believe, adhere to and become. 

I'm not putty. I'm not weak. I'm not stupid. I'm not racist. I'm not brain dead either. I refuse to be stripped of my own

rights in favor of someone else's view of how I should be thinking. This is the United States and I'll be *ed if anyone

will take my rights as a citizen of it away. 

Oh..someone on YouTube criticized Disney sales of a Polynesian character's Halloween costume from their new movie Moana.

They said it was offensive for children to dress up as another race. LOL that's stretching things, really. This is where issues

lose credibility. Why can't children dress up as a character in a movie? Now it's so politically correct, it's ridiculous where we

are headed with this whole race issue, wouldn't you agree??

"yes, America is headed toward dictatorship.  Hillary will take you there."

No source, no evidence, no case

"you're not threatened,because you're a subject of brainwashing"

No, i'm eduicated. I know to you those are the same, but they're different. 

"exactly what the Democrats want, non-resistant, agreeable natured,an easily influenced go along"

You clearly haven't read anything i've ever wrote. The DemoConservative Party is almost as bad as the party that left me out in the dark and cold. but not as bad. 

"They said it was offensive for children to dress up as another race"

I'll let John Oliver explain: Dressing Up As Other Races (How Is This Still a Thing?): Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxQq8HTtb4A

"keep men dressing as women out of my restroom"

If you wake up with the other sexes body parts are you gonna act like the other sex? NO because sex and Gender are completely different. 

"keep children on track with their own religion"

The first amendment says otherwise. 

dr65's avatardr65

Darn king...I'll read this later...I've got a witch to watch..Big Smile

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

I wonder if odd makers are taking bets on whether Hillary will have a medical emergency during tonight's debate?

bigbear29

I could care less if you have me blocked.  You don't mean anything to me.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Trump is brilliant. Hillary came from a very wealthy background. She is lying.

Stack47

Trump should stop making faces; he looks so stupid. And what about those tax returns; what is he hiding?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 26, 2016

Wow, I guess black people watch the same news stations.  I watch all of than so I don't become stupid like some people.

Just a wild guess; the Trump supporters will say he won and the Dems will say Hillary won.

Stack47

What's up with all that snorting?

destinycreation

We all watched the debate.

Hillary Clinton won the debate against Donald Trump !!!  Yes Nod

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Sep 26, 2016

We all watched the debate.

Hillary Clinton won the debate against Donald Trump !!!  Yes Nod

Take into consideration, The Donald's most honest statement, Hillary has been doing this for 30 years!

This Country is in a mess and for 30 years Hillary has had her hand in it. point blank, she is responsible for very bad decisions.

This is a woman who put our nations national security at risk with her server and now she wants to fix it?

I doubt it, 1.5 billion to Iran, a country who over and over says they want Americans dead.

Raising taxes, to those who can least afford it, the middle class.

A woman whose husband cheated on her and humiliated her for the entire marriage, if she let Bill do that to her, what would she let the rest of the world do to us?

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

I don't think either gained any new supporters. 

I was disgusted by the biased news coverage immediately after. (NBC)

bigbear29

Trump started the debate pretty good, than after 30 mins, he fell apart.

bigbear29

Yes she did, I have said it before, trump pick a book or two.  Get educated!  Hillary did her homework, trump did not.

bigbear29

I think Hillary will get some of Gerry Johnson's voters now.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Well how y'all think it went i got home to late and only caught the last 20 minutes..

bigbear29

Trump the first 30 or 39 mins and the rest was Hillary = Hillary 1,  trump 0

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 26, 2016

Trump the first 30 or 39 mins and the rest was Hillary = Hillary 1,  trump 0

OK, Thanks bigbear Have a Good Night Smiley

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Who won? Well, that depends upon who you ask...or who replies to a poll.

Drudge was the first place I checked:

(I reduced the size of the screenshots- most were too large and since there will be several, I didn't want to bog down the thread)

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Of course, some would say that Drudge is pro-Trump and a "right wing" website, so it's only fair to include other sources.

From TheHill.com:  photo thehill2_zpsvot6ijnb.jpg

Las Vegas Sun: photo lasvegassun_zps8qjb95il.jpg

NewJersey.com:   photo nj2_zpsjk6elhh8.jpg

PolitOpinion:   photo politopinion2_zpsckbnqcqm.jpg

A surprise at Hollywood Gossip: photo hollywood-gossip2_zpso1qiuo2g.jpg

 A bit of a surprise at the tied results at CNBC:  photo cnbc2_zpsu0gruaqj.jpg

Never heard of this one but...Truth Division:  photo truth-division_zps0t09pcw2.jpg

A conservative group, no surprise - The Right Scoop:  photo therightscoop_zpswwttth9s.jpg

Fortune:  photo fortune_zpscvapu5h1.jpg

Fortune had a multi-part poll and Trump beat Clinton on every issue. I also think this poll from there is probably the most accurate of any; namely, that the majority have their mind made up before watching any debate.

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Feel free to reply to this if you like, but please don't quote it (include in your reply) and REALLY bog down the thread.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Sep 26, 2016

We all watched the debate.

Hillary Clinton won the debate against Donald Trump !!!  Yes Nod

Yep and now we get to hear all the excuses why Trump did so badly.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 26, 2016

Trump the first 30 or 39 mins and the rest was Hillary = Hillary 1,  trump 0

I just heard a report that Rudy Giuliani said this was Trump's last debate. IMO it's doubtful, but you never know.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

You never reveal all your cards at first draw....

bigbear29

I can see that happenning with trump, but I don't think that's going to happen.  Trump would be crazy to drop out of the debates.

bigbear29

A lot of things that trump states is not going to happen.

One example, trickle down economics (does not work), it has been done before and the people at the top just stock pile the money.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 27, 2016

I just heard a report that Rudy Giuliani said this was Trump's last debate. IMO it's doubtful, but you never know.

Correction, Giuliani said "If I were Donald Trump I wouldn't participate in another debate unless I was promised that a journalist would act like a journalist and not an incorrect, ignorant fact checker,"

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

While....CNN & CNBCare declaring victory for Clinton, Trump declared victory for himself in the first debate. He said, he might "go harder" in the future debates by bringing up Bill Clinton's past history of infidelity to Hillary.  ( he did tell Psyko, Geennifer Flowers>>Paula Jones>>Kathileen Willy may be @ debates)

                                                          Thinking of...ThudThinking of...  Thudwhat a mess it might be???

bigbear29

trump is a total loser!  For the next debate he needs to pick up a BOOK or two and get ready for the next debate.

 

trump is lying about his TAXES!  I hope that Hillary continues to bring up his taxes.  Someone that pays no federal taxes but he states that he cares about the middle class people.  He stated that he is smarter than everyone else, because he does not pay any taxes.

kreative1's avatarkreative1

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Sep 27, 2016

While....CNN & CNBCare declaring victory for Clinton, Trump declared victory for himself in the first debate. He said, he might "go harder" in the future debates by bringing up Bill Clinton's past history of infidelity to Hillary.  ( he did tell Psyko, Geennifer Flowers>>Paula Jones>>Kathileen Willy may be @ debates)

                                                          Thinking of...ThudThinking of...  Thudwhat a mess it might be???

That wouldn't be smart since it was her husband that cheated and that would make Trump open season for her since he also cheated on his first wife. I personally think she should have kicked him to the curb but that is a personal thing and not a political issue since male presidents (Kennedy off the top of my head) seem to be excused for it.

The one thing that bothered me about Trump is saying it's smart business to not pay federal taxes. You either make money and pay taxes or your business did not make a profit period. If you make money like he says then he cheats on his taxes and probably why he's audited all the time. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling when I look at the taxes that we pay.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by kreative1 on Sep 27, 2016

That wouldn't be smart since it was her husband that cheated and that would make Trump open season for her since he also cheated on his first wife. I personally think she should have kicked him to the curb but that is a personal thing and not a political issue since male presidents (Kennedy off the top of my head) seem to be excused for it.

The one thing that bothered me about Trump is saying it's smart business to not pay federal taxes. You either make money and pay taxes or your business did not make a profit period. If you make money like he says then he cheats on his taxes and probably why he's audited all the time. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling when I look at the taxes that we pay.

If he cheated on his taxes we'd know about it by now.  Businesses have all sorts of legal deductions and loop holes, its only good business to use them.  If people don't like it, then downgrade the IRS and institute a simple flat tax for everyone.

bigbear29

Yes, well said Kreative1.  Well said!  Taxes for the rich should change, rich people should not get all types of loop holes.

Trump claims that he gives millions to the vets, I think that is a lie.  Release your taxes trump.  Is trump's Charity just money for trump??????  Right now he is being investigated for using his charity money to pay people off, which is against the law.

kreative1's avatarkreative1

The funny thing is I continued to watch after the debate and when a reporter asked him about that statement he denied saying that and they should ask Lester Holt about it! whaaaat?

Oh yeah and he got a "small" loan from his dad to start his business, did he pay it back or was it a gift.

My dad made me pay for my first car, a rambler hahahah, out of a junk yard for 25 bucks and I worked at night while going to school to also pay for my own insurance. It made me realize if you want something you have to earn it and as soon as I could afford it I bought a firebird wooohoooo lol

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 27, 2016

Yes, well said Kreative1.  Well said!  Taxes for the rich should change, rich people should not get all types of loop holes.

Trump claims that he gives millions to the vets, I think that is a lie.  Release your taxes trump.  Is trump's Charity just money for trump??????  Right now he is being investigated for using his charity money to pay people off, which is against the law.

I think everyone should pay taxes on what they earn.  Even the 47%.

kreative1's avatarkreative1

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 27, 2016

I think everyone should pay taxes on what they earn.  Even the 47%.

I agree Smile I also don't like our school taxes based on our property instead of income and it's why when people retire that even though their home is paid for they can't afford the taxes.

dr65's avatardr65

Trump did a fine job. I was happy with the debate. In the next one I'd like to see him dig deeper and press

harder on Hillary's personal weak points. 

Hillary did what she was good at, forcing herself on us. 

She referred to the rich being served by Trumps tax plan..but...she is rich, does she think we all forgot that?

She brought up his taxes again and again then proceeded to break down the figures. She's multi-functional...

accountant, commander-in-thief, laughing clown with a red suit..all she needed was the nose to go

with it, master at concealing the truth...and at distorting it so many times she actually can say with a straight

face and arrogance on top of it, she believes what she says. She's so good at admitting she was wrong for using

the servers she did for her classified emails but still, there are some things that go way beyond a simple apology.

And on top of all this, she's still excellent at lying while flashing her Obama style smile to say, it's alright, see? I'm

smiling. The problem with that is people do all sorts of things to hide their true feelings...smiling endlessly is one

of them. It's not honest by any means, it's more deception to hide uneasiness.

Trump looks tuff, is tuff and isn't interested in making special interests happy. He is his own man and he is our man

for the job. He is in no ones pocket. He's not driven to be politically correct. Thank God he's not a politician. We need

some fresh ideas and some hope for a change and the lies and excuses for what's wrong today need to stop. HE will

stop it. He owes no one. 

We've got as much and more dirt on Clinton. Benghazi, remember them? Time and arrogance heal all wounds, huh?

33,000 emails that were just up and gone...supposedly they were about Chelsea's wedding..donation emails? Foreign

leader invites? The last time I got rid of a communication device, it didn't involve a hammer. Clinton Foundation wrongs,

racist views, constant lies, blackmailing, political favors, dirty government dealings and a long, long, long history of

political corruption that should have landed her in jail instead of on the campaign trail. And then that little matter of

Parkinson's. She's got something, no doubt about it. Dead woman walking. Remember that.

What will stick in my mind is her puppet face, smiling like the lunatic she is...having strings pulled oh and LOL before

I forget....She will not raise the debt ONE PENNY..well, that's true, she will raise it just as much as Obama did.

She also said Trump paints a dire, negative picture of black communities...is this woman on this planet? She paints a

bright and colorful picture of black communities and ignores the reality. She needs to live it or at the very least care

about it, then I'll listen to her. Trump even sighed at that remark, that said it all.

Back to the man...The tax return....UNDER THE ADVICE OF LEGAL COUNSEL....he is not to release his tax return until

after the audit. Hillary can say he's hiding something all she wants and skirt the real issues...and dream up a reason

to put heat on him and take it off her. Bait and switch...she's queen of bait and switch. She's queen of everything corrupt

and dirty. And as far as tax cuts go, the man takes full advantage of the tax code and uses the cuts put into place. He is

entitled to do so and if that reduces his taxes to owing very little or nothing at all, there is no law broken there. It may 

sound harsh to some for him to say that makes him smart and so what, he is smart. Media wants his info so they have

more to make up about him. I know he's rich, doesn't bother me....why does it bother others? The pot calling the kettle

black, Hillary, wants diversion away from her and if she can hammer away at the tax returns, she will. Just remember

to forget all about what she did while you're jumping on the bandwagon, ok? Btw, no pin?...ah! can't show pride when

pride is being a racist...all for show, all for show..I guess she couldn't wear 195 pins so she left out the most important

one too...our American flag.

Trump has years of business experience. He's smart. Running a country requires basic concepts and a category where

business sense comes in to play is finance and economics. Balancing a budget while courting so called friends of our nation

is lunacy..tell me, why are we holding others up? Why are we helping them and not our own? Why are we dumping money,

business and support into these foreign countries...why are Americans last in line? Trump's desire to raise our nation up to

what it should be taken more to heart. 

Hillary will use and say anything to get elected much like her buddy Obama. Remember what he told you to get elected? He 

made it rosy and easy..made it sound like we were all going to be taken care of instead of thrown out with the bathwater.

He used you and Hillary is and will too. She's a proven liar more times over than Trump will ever be. She has the experience

but look what she did over the years....perfect political correctness. She is a fine candidate for Washington hobnobbing..she's

one of them and once she's settled into her seat as head of this nation she'll execute her plan along with executing all of us.

Go take a look at her hearing on Benghazi when asked when she was alone that night and all night...her laughing was totally

out of line for a topic so sensitive...it reminds me a the villain in a big screen movie...and she is the ultimate villain. No class,

no conscience, no sympathy, no remorse and no hope.

bigbear29

Trump release your taxes so we can see the real trump, good or bad businessman or just a total LIAR!  Is trump going to bring his ties, shirts and suits back to the United States to be made by americans????

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

I think Trump made a mistake by referencing the weight issue in several of his responses. He can't go off topic like that if he wants to persuade those who are undecided. I am voting for Trump no matter what because Hillary is essentially an Obama 3rd term but he needs those on the fence and he is alienating many of those with his remarks. If he sticks to his agenda/script he will do fine but please leave out the weight taunting.

bigbear29

And that is because he is trump.  Pushing people away with his mouth.  Black, Hispanics, Asians and people sitting on the fence.  I was looking for change when it all started, but trump does not make any sense, he just rambles on, flip-flopping on every and pushing people away.

bigbear29

Fox news just stated that the world review showed Hillary was the clear debate winner.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Sep 26, 2016

Take into consideration, The Donald's most honest statement, Hillary has been doing this for 30 years!

This Country is in a mess and for 30 years Hillary has had her hand in it. point blank, she is responsible for very bad decisions.

This is a woman who put our nations national security at risk with her server and now she wants to fix it?

I doubt it, 1.5 billion to Iran, a country who over and over says they want Americans dead.

Raising taxes, to those who can least afford it, the middle class.

A woman whose husband cheated on her and humiliated her for the entire marriage, if she let Bill do that to her, what would she let the rest of the world do to us?

Hillary became a senator in 2000, the year is 2016, 2016-2000 = 16 years not 30. 

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Unluckyone on Sep 27, 2016

I think Trump made a mistake by referencing the weight issue in several of his responses. He can't go off topic like that if he wants to persuade those who are undecided. I am voting for Trump no matter what because Hillary is essentially an Obama 3rd term but he needs those on the fence and he is alienating many of those with his remarks. If he sticks to his agenda/script he will do fine but please leave out the weight taunting.

No, Hillary is even further to the right than Obama and that's hard to do.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 26, 2016

"yes, America is headed toward dictatorship.  Hillary will take you there."

No source, no evidence, no case

"you're not threatened,because you're a subject of brainwashing"

No, i'm eduicated. I know to you those are the same, but they're different. 

"exactly what the Democrats want, non-resistant, agreeable natured,an easily influenced go along"

You clearly haven't read anything i've ever wrote. The DemoConservative Party is almost as bad as the party that left me out in the dark and cold. but not as bad. 

"They said it was offensive for children to dress up as another race"

I'll let John Oliver explain: Dressing Up As Other Races (How Is This Still a Thing?): Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxQq8HTtb4A

"keep men dressing as women out of my restroom"

If you wake up with the other sexes body parts are you gonna act like the other sex? NO because sex and Gender are completely different. 

"keep children on track with their own religion"

The first amendment says otherwise. 

Hey king what's up..

 

POINT 1....I don't like outside sources, I'm a capable, thinking individual with an opinion..Hillary is more of Obama.

Obama's dictatorship is a ruling of mind, action and rule over everything. Pushing for what he deems is correct and

good for the nation without regard to what all think is his form of dictatorship. When you feel forced to discard what

your own beliefs and preferences are in favor of someone else's greater good, that's being stripped of rights we all

should have not just those who feel they are outcasts in society. We are becoming the outcasts and the only reason people

accept replacement of what they value and hold as their choice is because we have a leader wanting credit for breaking down

certain barriers yet he ignores conservative views. People believe what he tells them because he makes them feel guilty for 

not accepting what they don't believe.

 

 

POINT 2.....You are internet/textbook/word of mouth educated...meaning your opinions and education come from other 

sources. You are a prime example of what Democrats want, compliance with no resistance. With age comes maturity and

hopefully insight and an understanding that your beliefs are as important as anyone else's. To be told that you must comply

with what you do not accept is being a robot with no voice, no resistance, no choice. 

 

POINT 3....I did read some things you wrote and didn't fully dissect all that you wrote or refer to all of the references you

supplied, my bad...you'll have to hit me up with what the DemoConservative Party is, I'm unsure..or I'll look it up later on.

 

POINT 5....yea, how is it? 

 

POINT 5.....I would just like the sense of self to take a backseat to the physical self. Anatomically speaking, I do not want

what is male to be in the female restroom.

 

POINT 6......to keep children on track with what they are taught is freedom of religion. I'd like to retain mine for myself and my

family and not be instructed on or introduced to what is contrary to my own beliefs. An example would be inviting Jehovah Witness

in and letting them tell me what I don't believe, they hope they can convert me or recruit me but I know I never will because I

choose to remain what I am currently. There is no reason to teach school age children certain particulars of various religions. If

Catholicism is my choice, why is it taboo yet Buddhism or Muslim is not? All religion should be treated equally in schools, ban one,

ban them all or allow them all.

 

You can be civilized and actually likable at times. I get it.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Sep 27, 2016

Hillary became a senator in 2000, the year is 2016, 2016-2000 = 16 years not 30. 

My Bad, according to Hillary Herself, she has sacrificed her life to public service for 40 years.Chair

Time for her to retire, she's a mess.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 27, 2016

Fox news just stated that the world review showed Hillary was the clear debate winner.

Who cares what the "world" thinks?  As Trump stated many times.... Its going to be America first.  Its about <snip> time!

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bigbear29

Someone cares or they would not have put it on FOX NEWS!!!!!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 27, 2016

Someone cares or they would not have put it on FOX NEWS!!!!!

Believe me, no one cares.  Just like no one cares about Trump's tax returns.  America has many more pressing issues.

bigbear29

Someone cares or they would not have put it on FOX NEWS!!!!!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by kreative1 on Sep 27, 2016

I agree Smile I also don't like our school taxes based on our property instead of income and it's why when people retire that even though their home is paid for they can't afford the taxes.

It's not about showing taxes, foreign policy, or even hacking the DNC, the biggest issues are Rosie O'Donnell and Miss Universe! And don't forget the "bad mic" and unfair questions.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Sep 27, 2016

My Bad, according to Hillary Herself, she has sacrificed her life to public service for 40 years.Chair

Time for her to retire, she's a mess.

LOL

bigbear29

Trump is a whiner!

 

I wonder if trump is going to prepare for debate 2 or just wing-it like debate 1.  You can not wing the presidency!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

If Trump barked like a dog in one of his rallies... Would he still be running?  Answer is no.  The media can cover for Hillary until the cows come home, that won't help her.  She's toast.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Sep 27, 2016

Trump did a fine job. I was happy with the debate. In the next one I'd like to see him dig deeper and press

harder on Hillary's personal weak points. 

Hillary did what she was good at, forcing herself on us. 

She referred to the rich being served by Trumps tax plan..but...she is rich, does she think we all forgot that?

She brought up his taxes again and again then proceeded to break down the figures. She's multi-functional...

accountant, commander-in-thief, laughing clown with a red suit..all she needed was the nose to go

with it, master at concealing the truth...and at distorting it so many times she actually can say with a straight

face and arrogance on top of it, she believes what she says. She's so good at admitting she was wrong for using

the servers she did for her classified emails but still, there are some things that go way beyond a simple apology.

And on top of all this, she's still excellent at lying while flashing her Obama style smile to say, it's alright, see? I'm

smiling. The problem with that is people do all sorts of things to hide their true feelings...smiling endlessly is one

of them. It's not honest by any means, it's more deception to hide uneasiness.

Trump looks tuff, is tuff and isn't interested in making special interests happy. He is his own man and he is our man

for the job. He is in no ones pocket. He's not driven to be politically correct. Thank God he's not a politician. We need

some fresh ideas and some hope for a change and the lies and excuses for what's wrong today need to stop. HE will

stop it. He owes no one. 

We've got as much and more dirt on Clinton. Benghazi, remember them? Time and arrogance heal all wounds, huh?

33,000 emails that were just up and gone...supposedly they were about Chelsea's wedding..donation emails? Foreign

leader invites? The last time I got rid of a communication device, it didn't involve a hammer. Clinton Foundation wrongs,

racist views, constant lies, blackmailing, political favors, dirty government dealings and a long, long, long history of

political corruption that should have landed her in jail instead of on the campaign trail. And then that little matter of

Parkinson's. She's got something, no doubt about it. Dead woman walking. Remember that.

What will stick in my mind is her puppet face, smiling like the lunatic she is...having strings pulled oh and LOL before

I forget....She will not raise the debt ONE PENNY..well, that's true, she will raise it just as much as Obama did.

She also said Trump paints a dire, negative picture of black communities...is this woman on this planet? She paints a

bright and colorful picture of black communities and ignores the reality. She needs to live it or at the very least care

about it, then I'll listen to her. Trump even sighed at that remark, that said it all.

Back to the man...The tax return....UNDER THE ADVICE OF LEGAL COUNSEL....he is not to release his tax return until

after the audit. Hillary can say he's hiding something all she wants and skirt the real issues...and dream up a reason

to put heat on him and take it off her. Bait and switch...she's queen of bait and switch. She's queen of everything corrupt

and dirty. And as far as tax cuts go, the man takes full advantage of the tax code and uses the cuts put into place. He is

entitled to do so and if that reduces his taxes to owing very little or nothing at all, there is no law broken there. It may 

sound harsh to some for him to say that makes him smart and so what, he is smart. Media wants his info so they have

more to make up about him. I know he's rich, doesn't bother me....why does it bother others? The pot calling the kettle

black, Hillary, wants diversion away from her and if she can hammer away at the tax returns, she will. Just remember

to forget all about what she did while you're jumping on the bandwagon, ok? Btw, no pin?...ah! can't show pride when

pride is being a racist...all for show, all for show..I guess she couldn't wear 195 pins so she left out the most important

one too...our American flag.

Trump has years of business experience. He's smart. Running a country requires basic concepts and a category where

business sense comes in to play is finance and economics. Balancing a budget while courting so called friends of our nation

is lunacy..tell me, why are we holding others up? Why are we helping them and not our own? Why are we dumping money,

business and support into these foreign countries...why are Americans last in line? Trump's desire to raise our nation up to

what it should be taken more to heart. 

Hillary will use and say anything to get elected much like her buddy Obama. Remember what he told you to get elected? He 

made it rosy and easy..made it sound like we were all going to be taken care of instead of thrown out with the bathwater.

He used you and Hillary is and will too. She's a proven liar more times over than Trump will ever be. She has the experience

but look what she did over the years....perfect political correctness. She is a fine candidate for Washington hobnobbing..she's

one of them and once she's settled into her seat as head of this nation she'll execute her plan along with executing all of us.

Go take a look at her hearing on Benghazi when asked when she was alone that night and all night...her laughing was totally

out of line for a topic so sensitive...it reminds me a the villain in a big screen movie...and she is the ultimate villain. No class,

no conscience, no sympathy, no remorse and no hope.

    Good Job dr65... I agree 100 percent with you...Thumbs Up

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 27, 2016

It's not about showing taxes, foreign policy, or even hacking the DNC, the biggest issues are Rosie O'Donnell and Miss Universe! And don't forget the "bad mic" and unfair questions.

Oh really?  The issues regarding the Presidency are Rosie O'Donnell and Miss Universe?  LOL!  Do we live in the same country?????

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Sep 27, 2016

My Bad, according to Hillary Herself, she has sacrificed her life to public service for 40 years.Chair

Time for her to retire, she's a mess.

     Green laugh

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 27, 2016

Oh really?  The issues regarding the Presidency are Rosie O'Donnell and Miss Universe?  LOL!  Do we live in the same country?????

    GreenBay.... I wouldn't waste your time with bigbear... he just doesn't get it...Crazy

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Actually DEE88 that was stack... Same difference.  LOL

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Sep 26, 2016

Take into consideration, The Donald's most honest statement, Hillary has been doing this for 30 years!

This Country is in a mess and for 30 years Hillary has had her hand in it. point blank, she is responsible for very bad decisions.

This is a woman who put our nations national security at risk with her server and now she wants to fix it?

I doubt it, 1.5 billion to Iran, a country who over and over says they want Americans dead.

Raising taxes, to those who can least afford it, the middle class.

A woman whose husband cheated on her and humiliated her for the entire marriage, if she let Bill do that to her, what would she let the rest of the world do to us?

I agree! He had some great sound bites as well. The 30 year reference, her emails, and hitting on businesses leaving the  US and wanted to tax them, like Mexico does with the US, and the 3rd world country reference. 

I could tell he is saving some material for future debates. When HRC tried to belittle him for having issues with a few employees, I was waiting for him to say, let's talk about your past secret service employees.  He does not pay $700 for a hammer so knows what things really cost.

Well done President Trump.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

I found it interesting that Hitlery brought up there was a Trump unpaid contractor in the audience.  Now, why, how, where did that come from.  That woman is so vile and underhanded.  She will DO and SAY anything to get that office. 

Trump talked how much in disrepair America is in and is that ever true.  Our roads, schools, airports all need updating desperately.  Get Trump in office and work will commence.  Immediately jobs will open up and the evonomy will jump start.  My vote is Trump.  Keep Hitlery away from ANY government job.  Time to retire her permanently.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Sep 27, 2016

I found it interesting that Hitlery brought up there was a Trump unpaid contractor in the audience.  Now, why, how, where did that come from.  That woman is so vile and underhanded.  She will DO and SAY anything to get that office. 

Trump talked how much in disrepair America is in and is that ever true.  Our roads, schools, airports all need updating desperately.  Get Trump in office and work will commence.  Immediately jobs will open up and the evonomy will jump start.  My vote is Trump.  Keep Hitlery away from ANY government job.  Time to retire her permanently.

I agree!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 27, 2016

Oh really?  The issues regarding the Presidency are Rosie O'Donnell and Miss Universe?  LOL!  Do we live in the same country?????

Had you watched the debate, you'd know Trump talked about what I guess were his personal issues, Rosie, Miss Universe, and 400 pounders. And I'll bet you call that being presidential.

Getting back to the topic, how much are you going to bet on Trump winning Wisconsin?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

I agree. It would be like an individual failing to take advantage of the laws on their tax returns and list mortgage interest,  charitable contributions, etc.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

I love it when the king of anti-women, harassing bigoted bullies on LP now claims to be appalled by Trump's references to weight, etc. Just sooooooo offended on behalf of women.  What a hypocrite. Lol

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Some interesting info about Hillary and her bar license. If you are not practicing law in a specific state or DC, you can fill out a form and go on inactive status and pay a reduced membership fee and be relieved of taking mandatory continuing legal education courses. This option is on the yearly dues form and all you have to do is check a box. Yet HRC failed to do this when Billy boy was elected governor. So her license was suspended since she failed to do this (or take the classes and pay her dues if she wanted to remain in active status). How stupid can one be to allow this to happen? She has her own rules of course.

bigbear29

Why would she care at her age and bank account?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 27, 2016

Why would she care at her age and bank account?

It is the process and the lack of respect for rules and the system. She was in her 40's then by the way and claimed to have little money also. I could win a JP tomorrow but would handle things correctly. Basic common sense.

bigbear29

Did hillary want to stay in active status?  It is up to Hillary!

No or yes?  If hillary did not want to stay active, who cares!

bigbear29

Another republican, John Warner stated that he will endorse Hillary Clinton.  I guess he did not like trump in the debate.

Also, the Arizona Republic newspaper just stated that they will endorse Hillary Clinton.  That is two for today!

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

All the rhino republicans are finally showing their true beliefs. Many of us already knew they were Dems posing as Republicans.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 27, 2016

Did hillary want to stay in active status?  It is up to Hillary!

No or yes?  If hillary did not want to stay active, who cares!

 YOU are ignorant. She ignored the process. Read my post. Same thing we saw with regard to emails and many other things. Yes, Hillary does not have to do anything she does not want to do ethically or legally. Lol Thanks for admitting the truth there.

bigbear29

SO WHAT!  Hillary decided not to, AGAIN, SO WHAT!  It is Hillary's life, SO WHAT!  Everybody is not wonderful like you that follows rules to a tee.  Good for you!

 

TRUMP, RELEASE YOUR TAXES!!!!

 

LET TRUMP KNOW THAT HE LOST THE DEBATE!

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 28, 2016

SO WHAT!  Hillary decided not to, AGAIN, SO WHAT!  It is Hillary's life, SO WHAT!  Everybody is not wonderful like you that follows rules to a tee.  Good for you!

 

TRUMP, RELEASE YOUR TAXES!!!!

 

LET TRUMP KNOW THAT HE LOST THE DEBATE!

Lol. Now we know why he supports HRC. The rules and laws are just reserved for some of us. Lol lol. This is pure gold. Hillary for dictator!

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 27, 2016

Another republican, John Warner stated that he will endorse Hillary Clinton.  I guess he did not like trump in the debate.

Also, the Arizona Republic newspaper just stated that they will endorse Hillary Clinton.  That is two for today!

Warner is 89 yrs. old and probably thinks Hillary is Liz Taylor.

bigbear29

I have said it before, a vote is a vote!  There is no age requirement in the voting booth!

 

What!  No comment on the biggest Arizona newspaper, the Arizona Republic endorsing Hillary Clinton, yes, Hillary Clinton.  126 years the newspaper has endorsed republicans and NOW trump comes along, and the paper can not endorse TRUMP.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 28, 2016

I have said it before, a vote is a vote!  There is no age requirement in the voting booth!

 

What!  No comment on the biggest Arizona newspaper, the Arizona Republic endorsing Hillary Clinton, yes, Hillary Clinton.  126 years the newspaper has endorsed republicans and NOW trump comes along, and the paper can not endorse TRUMP.

I didn't figure it needed one.  That paper endorsed Hillary in the Dem primaries and it's no surprise that they would stick with her if only as a sop to the Eastern snowbirds who flocked to the state and decided to stay.  The paper's gotta do something to prop up their sagging subscription numbers. 

I think Gary ("Gerry" to you) Johnson has more newspaper endorsements than does Trump.  Personally, I see that as a positive. I'd explain my reasoning to you, Zippy, but it would involve multi-syllabic words and be way over your pointy little head.

What I find "funny" is how you hypocrites have labelled Arizona as racist since 2010, yet now that the state's largest newspaper endorses your candidate, you've changed your tune.

The only voters delighting in both the newspaper's and Warner's endorsements are those who already know they're voting for Clinton.  Their endorsements are as substantial as a fart in a whirlwind.   

I'm not sure why I even bother with you because it's easy to see you're a lost cause and I'm wasting my time.  After all, if you won't help yourself, then anything I say won't help either.  If you get drunk, you can sober up in the morning.  If you are ignorant, you can get an education.  If you commit a crime, you can be rehabilitated. If you are a bigot, you can learn tolerance ... but if you are stupid, there is no remedy.

bigbear29

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bigbear29

Since The Arizona Republic began publication in 1890, we have never endorsed a Democrat over a Republican for president. Never. This reflects a deep philosophical appreciation for conservative ideals and Republican principles.

This year is different.

The 2016 Republican candidate is not conservative and he is not qualified.

That’s why, for the first time in our history, The Arizona Republic will support a Democrat for president.

What Clinton has (and Trump doesn’t)

The challenges the United States faces domestically and internationally demand a steady hand, a cool head and the ability to think carefully before acting.

Hillary Clinton understands this. Donald Trump does not.

Clinton has the temperament and experience to be president. Donald Trump does not.

Clinton knows how to compromise and to lead with intelligence, decorum and perspective. She has a record of public service as First Lady, senator and secretary of state.

She has withstood decades of scrutiny so intense it would wither most politicians. The vehemence of some of the anti-Clinton attacks strains credulity.

Trump hasn’t even let the American people scrutinize his tax returns, which could help the nation judge his claims of business acumen.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 28, 2016

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Like I said, typical Hillary supporter, dumb as a box of rocks....although you DO have copy and paste mastered.

bigbear29

"That paper endorsed Hillary in the Dem primaries and it's no surprise that they would stick with her if only as a sop to the Eastern snowbirds who flocked to the state and decided to stay.  The paper's gotta do something to prop up their sagging subscription numbers."  This from a trump supporter,  dumb as a box of DIRT!

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 28, 2016

"That paper endorsed Hillary in the Dem primaries and it's no surprise that they would stick with her if only as a sop to the Eastern snowbirds who flocked to the state and decided to stay.  The paper's gotta do something to prop up their sagging subscription numbers."  This from a trump supporter,  dumb as a box of DIRT!

When have I ever said I was a Trump supporter?  You know what they say about someone who assumes, right?

Like I said, all you do is "bla bla bla" and copy and paste.  Not an original thought in your pea brain. You didn't even rebut what I said...and you can't, because it's true.

You Hillary supporters have problems with truth, though.

Hillary For Prison Hospice!

dr65's avatardr65

It begins...or continues, when are you people going to see the light?

Small steps to begin with hoping you wouldn't notice, larger more visible steps now before the election.

They do not want Trump in there, he better start wearing a bullet proof vest and might possibly be the first president

to have to stay put in the White House for 4 years.

Michael Savage's radio program was cut off while broadcasting information on Hillary's health and the drugs associated

with treatment of Parkinson's disease. The programs they replaced his with were blasting Trump - Savage

wasn't. Savage has 20 million listeners and the major affiliates dumped him in the middle of his show, cut him off and 

replaced him with Hillary supporting traitors who are taking credit for a coup against Trump and Savage.

The reason this is possible is because CNN has laid the ground for a long time. They made it ok to be a media giant and 

have a choice instead of remain neutral and report the news, not news concerning 'their candidate' but unbiased, non-

leaning, news. They are making racism worse, the immigration issue worse, white against black and vice-versa violence

worse and it all fits in with their move to make Hillary the next president.

Put your mind into overdrive, dump the influence and start thinking for yourselves. 

When the USA continues to allow censorship above Constitutional rights, we no longer need a constitution because it isn't a 

one size fits all anymore, it's an ALL must fit one size and a dictatorship.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 27, 2016

Another republican, John Warner stated that he will endorse Hillary Clinton.  I guess he did not like trump in the debate.

Also, the Arizona Republic newspaper just stated that they will endorse Hillary Clinton.  That is two for today!

But David Duke supports Trump. Isn't that a wash?

bigbear29

no!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Sep 28, 2016

When have I ever said I was a Trump supporter?  You know what they say about someone who assumes, right?

Like I said, all you do is "bla bla bla" and copy and paste.  Not an original thought in your pea brain. You didn't even rebut what I said...and you can't, because it's true.

You Hillary supporters have problems with truth, though.

Hillary For Prison Hospice!

On another site there was a discussion about the difference between people who are anti-Clinton and Trump supporters. And there are anti-Trump people that don't support Clinton.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 28, 2016

On another site there was a discussion about the difference between people who are anti-Clinton and Trump supporters. And there are anti-Trump people that don't support Clinton.

And there are anti-Trump people that don't support Clinton.

And that would be me...although I'm much more anti-Clinton than I am anti-Trump.  I am not a Republican, but am a conservative "small L" libertarian.  I voted for liberals in the last two Presidential elections:  McCain and Romney.  I didn't want to, but I felt I had no other choice, it was the lesser of two evils and nothing has changed with this upcoming election.  Unless the Republicans cease their statist ways, they'll never again get another vote from me, at least not in a Presidential election. 

It would suit me just fine to have both candidates step down and let their V.P. choices run.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Sep 28, 2016

Like I said, typical Hillary supporter, dumb as a box of rocks....although you DO have copy and paste mastered.

Lol No rules apply to HRC.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 28, 2016

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BB:             

Hi "yeu" dewing with that community campagninn??? Butter than Hill did with her Russian "Reset" button..yeaGreen laugh hope U knockem dead!!!!! It was a long time ago when she walked out to present the Russians this little box..Clown    lookin thing that looked like she purchased at a gag gift shop. Psyko can remember what a pitiful looking site      she was with that smerky grin on her face, then she finally looked like got the courage to hand it to some big ole  Russian of a bear man. He looked puzzled but, tried to smile, I think but, then broke out almost laughing at her because, "Reset" button was misspelled on this little plastic box looking thing. Bet the Russians knew right away    where they would cram bam bam this button "THING">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>!!!!!!!    GOOD LUCK>>>BB working 4 HILL and BILL THING>>>we will all be waiting to see how it all work out 4U2 Dunk                                                                                                                   

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Who to vote for?  Hmmmm... Are we better off than 8 years ago?  Is the world better off than 8 years ago?  I say, no way.  The GDP sucks and the middle east is in flames.  Not to mention terrorist attacks in this country.  Any American who votes for Hillary needs a lobotomy.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss
Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 28, 2016

200 Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Should Not Be President

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/catherinedunn/2016/09/27/200-reasons-hillary-clinton-is-unfit-to-be-president-n2223804

Great article.

dr65's avatardr65

I read it too, ty Coin Toss.

Michele Obama out pushing for Hillary..I guess she missed the link.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 28, 2016

On another site there was a discussion about the difference between people who are anti-Clinton and Trump supporters. And there are anti-Trump people that don't support Clinton.

Won't comment on the accuracy but Newsweek's cover story is "Donald Trump conducted illegal business in Fidel Castro's communist Cuba".

bigbear29

I read that from a different location and it looks like trump does not have any respect for the LAW (artist77).  He broke the LAW FOR PROFIT!

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 29, 2016

I read that from a different location and it looks like trump does not have any respect for the LAW (artist77).  He broke the LAW FOR PROFIT!

According to you, HRC can do what she wants and it does not matter. Someone else had to help you out there I see. PS . Get a job. I am waiting for my bus to work now, what about you?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I wonder how many dems will jump to there deaths when Trump wins.  To listen to them the world would fall

overnight.  My second thought is how long this topic will continue, maybe until November 9th only to be picked

up again it 2020.  That just reminded me of a old song, In the year 2525. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yesyhQkYrQM

RL

dr65's avatardr65

CNN reported that Trump's advisors had a blackout imposed on them to stop all reference to 'Illary's' health.

Maybe a blackout can be imposed on future demands that Trump release his taxes? It's not law to have to do

so. We know he's rich, we know he's been successful, we know he's failed and most likely in those instances,

wrote the failures off. Why is it smart for anyone but Trump to use credits, deductions to reduce their taxes?

I'm sure the queen of cover-up is doing everything in her power and using fall guys to get their hands on Trump's taxes

and are going to make it look like the leak had nothing to do with them. These fall guys pay a big price working for

Hillary...they wind up dead.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Sep 29, 2016

CNN reported that Trump's advisors had a blackout imposed on them to stop all reference to 'Illary's' health.

Maybe a blackout can be imposed on future demands that Trump release his taxes? It's not law to have to do

so. We know he's rich, we know he's been successful, we know he's failed and most likely in those instances,

wrote the failures off. Why is it smart for anyone but Trump to use credits, deductions to reduce their taxes?

I'm sure the queen of cover-up is doing everything in her power and using fall guys to get their hands on Trump's taxes

and are going to make it look like the leak had nothing to do with them. These fall guys pay a big price working for

Hillary...they wind up dead.

Some are all hung up on whatever failures Trump may have had in business.

The fact is failure is normal. For everybody. If someone claims they never fail, then they are also claiming they never try.

When I do my taxes I use every credit and deduction I can. Any reasonably intelligent person would do that.

I think most people that want his taxes public wouldn't even bother to look at them. And if they did bother, they wouldn't know what they were looking at anyway. I imagine Trump's tax return is very complicated. They keep harping on his taxes to divert attention from Hitlery's lies.

bigbear29

Oh get over it, you got busted by Stack47 and I found it on another website.  Get over it!  You was looking for something to say about Hillary and you just got busted.

TRUMP, RELEASE YOUR TAXES!

At first, trump was whinning about transparency and it does not apply to trump!

TRUMP, RELEASE YOUR TAXES!

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Sep 29, 2016

CNN reported that Trump's advisors had a blackout imposed on them to stop all reference to 'Illary's' health.

Maybe a blackout can be imposed on future demands that Trump release his taxes? It's not law to have to do

so. We know he's rich, we know he's been successful, we know he's failed and most likely in those instances,

wrote the failures off. Why is it smart for anyone but Trump to use credits, deductions to reduce their taxes?

I'm sure the queen of cover-up is doing everything in her power and using fall guys to get their hands on Trump's taxes

and are going to make it look like the leak had nothing to do with them. These fall guys pay a big price working for

Hillary...they wind up dead.

Interesting that you brought up the blackout. Michael Savage had just begun ranting about Hillary's health on his radio show when his show was abruptly terminated. The media and radio networks had received a memo from the Clinton camp to silence all references to her health and to go as far as shutting the air waves.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 29, 2016

According to you, HRC can do what she wants and it does not matter. Someone else had to help you out there I see. PS . Get a job. I am waiting for my bus to work now, what about you?

I don't think he will be riding a bus, train, bicycle or anything else as his "job" is hanging out in his room.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Sep 29, 2016

Interesting that you brought up the blackout. Michael Savage had just begun ranting about Hillary's health on his radio show when his show was abruptly terminated. The media and radio networks had received a memo from the Clinton camp to silence all references to her health and to go as far as shutting the air waves.

Yeah I mentioned that, if it posted right, just a little bit back. They cut him off, he was furious.

Okay, now what's going on here?...I'm not a crazy conspiracy theorist, I'm smarter than that but still would take being

called that over a crazy mindless robot that says: yes madam criminal, I believe you, no problem...but anyway..

I didn't know about the memo though Drenick, ty.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

I read that story Drenick1 about Michael Savage also.  Hillary has a lot to hide and it appears her health is just one.   Pretty darn serious if she has to shut down the radio networks.  How one sided can this woman be, such a hypocrite, will do and say anything to get in that office.  When you dont follow HER rules, people DIE.  There IS more to this story, just wonder who is going to have the nerve to find out and report it?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 29, 2016

I read that from a different location and it looks like trump does not have any respect for the LAW (artist77).  He broke the LAW FOR PROFIT!

In your mind the Clinton's robbing the White House blind when he left office must have been just fin and games, huh? And that's just a start. 

I guess you also think accepting millions of dollars (Clinton Foundation) from foreign governments, paying a pittance out for charities asnd living off the rest tax free is legal, too.

Bang Head

bigbear29

GOOD! GLAD HE WAS PULLED!

Top Rated Talk Show Host Michael Savage Pulled Off the Air After Discussing Hillary’s Health:

Top rated radio talk show host Michael Savage was abruptly pulled off the air on Monday afternoon after launching into a segment on Hillary Clinton’s delicate health. The talker called his abrupt removal an act of “sabotage.”

Savage, host of the nationally syndicated The Savage Nation radio program, was discussing Hillary’s health and suggested she may have Parkinson’s disease when he was alerted that his show had been pulled from the air on New York’s WABC radio.

The host discovered that The Savage Nation was pulled off the air and replaced by the “Curtis And Kuby Show,” in the Big Apple.

Not long after discovering he was pulled from WABC, as Savage was telling his audience what happened in New York, his live feed was suddenly cut off to many of his other affiliates and a replay of an earlier episode was substituted for the live feed.

The host, a strong supporter of GOP nominee Donald Trump.

bigbear29

Top Rated Talk Show Host Michael Savage Pulled Off the Air After Discussing Hillary’s Health:

Top rated radio talk show host Michael Savage was abruptly pulled off the air on Monday afternoon after launching into a segment on Hillary Clinton’s delicate health. The talker called his abrupt removal an act of “sabotage.”

Savage, host of the nationally syndicated The Savage Nation radio program, was discussing Hillary’s health and suggested she may have Parkinson’s disease when he was alerted that his show had been pulled from the air on New York’s WABC radio.

The host discovered that The Savage Nation was pulled off the air and replaced by the “Curtis And Kuby Show,” in the Big Apple.

Not long after discovering he was pulled from WABC, as Savage was telling his audience what happened in New York, his live feed was suddenly cut off to many of his other affiliates and a replay of an earlier episode was substituted for the live feed.

The host, a strong supporter of GOP nominee Donald Trump, took to his Twitter account to warn listeners of what happened, leaving only a single enigmatic Tweet about the incident:

TWEET: I'VE BEEN SABOTAGED ON AIR. TO DESTROY SUPPORT FOR TRUMP. MORE LATER

 

GOOD!  SOUNDS LIKE A TOTAL LOSER SHOW!

bigbear29

I have two MONITORS in my OFFICE, ONE TO STOP THE REPUBLICAN BS and ONE TO DO MY WORK!

 

83 million viewers for the debate and trump did not want to prepare properly for that.  trump is a total LOSER!

bigbear29

Hey trump, the debates are coming up soon.  Ok, I will study later after the cartoons go off.

bigbear29

Almost immediately, and without any notification, New York (tri-state area) radio station WABC-Radio TV cut Savage off the air and replaced him with the lesser rated  Curtis And Cooby Show.

 

KEYWORDS: replaced him with the lesser rated  Curtis And Cooby Show.  LESSER RATED!

Is he going to by FIRED!

 

Shortly thereafter, as Michael Savage discovered the issue and began discussing what was going on in/around the New York broadcast area, all Savage affiliates nationwide cut off the broadcast and replaced the live transmission with a recording of a previous show.

 

KEYWORDS:  all Savage affiliates nationwide cut off the broadcast and replaced the live transmission with a recording of a previous show.

 

DANG!!!!!!!!

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Your office?  One monitor to stop the Republicans bs?  Is this your work and what you get paid for?

dr65's avatardr65

Ill'ary needs a rule playbook. She's way out of the ballpark but not with a home run, she's not even playing the right game.

Chelsea, Michele, Obama, Hubby and whoever else who is pitching for her criminal'ess, needs an order to stop talking about

taxes...and is ba'bumabear still going on about it...he needs a gag order too.

It is not against the law, it's traditional to release taxes...it's an option. We all, so far, still have a right to confidentiality.

But do not count on that too long, I believe there will be a leak and they'll get away with that crime too....a Dem Senator

wants to make it law that a presidential candidate must release their taxes within a certain timeframe ...too much to do, too much

to read...I have to check his progress on that, I hope he was smacked out of his state. Dictator wannabe.

I checked, it's nowhere..  White Bounce

bigbear29

One monitor with LP, mail and other stuff.  Other monitor to do design work.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 29, 2016

Almost immediately, and without any notification, New York (tri-state area) radio station WABC-Radio TV cut Savage off the air and replaced him with the lesser rated  Curtis And Cooby Show.

 

KEYWORDS: replaced him with the lesser rated  Curtis And Cooby Show.  LESSER RATED!

Is he going to by FIRED!

 

Shortly thereafter, as Michael Savage discovered the issue and began discussing what was going on in/around the New York broadcast area, all Savage affiliates nationwide cut off the broadcast and replaced the live transmission with a recording of a previous show.

 

KEYWORDS:  all Savage affiliates nationwide cut off the broadcast and replaced the live transmission with a recording of a previous show.

 

DANG!!!!!!!!

So apparently YOU want a president that will control the media and only tell what THEY want people to hear.

That's going on right now.

What happened to Savage is censorship.

bigbear29

Why should they stop talking about trump's TAXES?????

bigbear29

radio station WABC-Radio TV cut Savage off the air!  May-be they don't want to get SUED for false info.

That is serious to get cut nation wide.  And you do not get cut for telling the truth!!!!!

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Sep 29, 2016

Your office?  One monitor to stop the Republicans bs?  Is this your work and what you get paid for?

Y'know, that's what I was thinking.  Do a search for Clinton Super PAC online trolls or "Barrier Breakers".  They were found to be paying people to harass anyone who dares speak out against Her Highness Hillary.  Bear is so stupid, they probably got him on the cheap.

bigbear29

WOW! Total BS!  One thing that I have noticed is if someone can not prove their point, or disagree with someone wrong or right.  They come up with total BS to say.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 29, 2016

WOW! Total BS!  One thing that I have noticed is if someone can not prove their point, or disagree with someone wrong or right.  They come up with total BS to say.

WOW! Snappy comeback! 

What kind of work is you do?  I bet it's not anything really technical, that would be way beyond your limited intellect.    I bet you're a telemarketer, selling driveway repairs or aluminum siding or maybe you work in a boiler room calling up little old ladies and intimidate them into forking over their pensions.

bigbear29

It is HI-TECH.  What do you do?

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 29, 2016

It is HI-TECH.  What do you do?

HI-TECH?  Yeah, right. LOL

Me?  I play piano in a cathouse.  The pay is good, but I'm around Democrats all day, what with the women and their customers.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 29, 2016

WOW! Total BS!  One thing that I have noticed is if someone can not prove their point, or disagree with someone wrong or right.  They come up with total BS to say.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Sep 29, 2016

WOW! Snappy comeback! 

What kind of work is you do?  I bet it's not anything really technical, that would be way beyond your limited intellect.    I bet you're a telemarketer, selling driveway repairs or aluminum siding or maybe you work in a boiler room calling up little old ladies and intimidate them into forking over their pensions.

Just to clarify to anyone else;  when I replied to the post, there was only "WOW! Total BS!", but then it was edited after I had already hit "send".

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Sep 29, 2016

Y'know, that's what I was thinking.  Do a search for Clinton Super PAC online trolls or "Barrier Breakers".  They were found to be paying people to harass anyone who dares speak out against Her Highness Hillary.  Bear is so stupid, they probably got him on the cheap.

Seems to me he must get paid by the post just to keep the threads full of HIS BULLSh&^. 

And to smallbear I mean that literally.  Your posts are idiotic and redundant. Whoever is paying you is not getting their moneys worth. 

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 29, 2016

radio station WABC-Radio TV cut Savage off the air!  May-be they don't want to get SUED for false info.

That is serious to get cut nation wide.  And you do not get cut for telling the truth!!!!!

I agree, quite serious. Telling me the 'illary camp is very very scared of the truth getting out.

And yes, I do believe he was cut for telling the truth.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Sep 29, 2016

Seems to me he must get paid by the post just to keep the threads full of HIS BULLSh&^. 

And to smallbear I mean that literally.  Your posts are idiotic and redundant. Whoever is paying you is not getting their moneys worth. 

What was hilarious was him calling BS about paid Hillary trolls.  I can just see him clicking on that link, his beady little eyes narrowed and his Neanderthal sloping forehead furrowed in concentration, moving his lips and silently sounding out the big words as he read the information straight from the source.  He's been quiet for an hour;  guess his supervisor got annoyed with him for not being on the phone trying to sell more aluminum siding.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Sep 29, 2016

What was hilarious was him calling BS about paid Hillary trolls.  I can just see him clicking on that link, his beady little eyes narrowed and his Neanderthal sloping forehead furrowed in concentration, moving his lips and silently sounding out the big words as he read the information straight from the source.  He's been quiet for an hour;  guess his supervisor got annoyed with him for not being on the phone trying to sell more aluminum siding.

LOL

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Sep 29, 2016

I agree, quite serious. Telling me the 'illary camp is very very scared of the truth getting out.

And yes, I do believe he was cut for telling the truth.

Yeah, he was...his broadcast was cut mid stream and replaced by a lower rated show, instantly.

If they can cut the airwaves, they can order anything they want..imagine what they can do to the vote count. It's strong arming

to get her in there, they are above the law. I'm no chicken little but something really stinks.

bigbear29

Electoral votes

Hillary Clinton

290.7

Donald Trump

247.0

Gary Johnson

0.3

Popular vote

Hillary Clinton

46.6%

Donald Trump

44.2%

Gary Johnson

7.8%

bigbear29

Who will win the presidency?

Chance of winning

 

Hillary Clinton

62.4%

Donald Trump

37.5%

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Sep 29, 2016

Y'know, that's what I was thinking.  Do a search for Clinton Super PAC online trolls or "Barrier Breakers".  They were found to be paying people to harass anyone who dares speak out against Her Highness Hillary.  Bear is so stupid, they probably got him on the cheap.

From Barrier Breakers 2016,

"because of the fear of online harassment. Many of Hillary Clinton’s female supporters in particular have been subject to intense cyber-bullying and sexist attacks from swarms of anonymous attackers."

There is a huge difference between a "supporter" and a "surrogate" and I doubt Rudy Giuliani and Kellyanne Conway are taking time off their regiment of daily news talk shows to post on anonymously on social media. From my point of view in this environment, it's the Trump supporters who are doing the harassing. Do you really believe Bear is being paid to post on LP?

If someone was going to make a very large wager (at least $10K) on the presidential election result, they certainly would not rely on the anti-Clinton remarks on LP.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Good grief, Stack.  Why must you constantly deflect?  It's become your standard M.O. 

Online harassment?  Sheesh, someone probably called the crybabies ignorant twits, huh? 

No, I seriously doubt Bear is getting paid by Barrier Breakers.  I'm sure they have standards.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 29, 2016

Electoral votes

Hillary Clinton

290.7

Donald Trump

247.0

Gary Johnson

0.3

Popular vote

Hillary Clinton

46.6%

Donald Trump

44.2%

Gary Johnson

7.8%

Last night when asked which leader any where in the World he most admired, Gary Johnson could not answer. William Weld bailed him out suggesting the Libertarians should flip-flop their ticket.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

I consulted a couple of experts, just as accurate as any polls, I reckon:

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bigbear29

I saw that Town Hall, not good at all.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Sep 29, 2016

Good grief, Stack.  Why must you constantly deflect?  It's become your standard M.O. 

Online harassment?  Sheesh, someone probably called the crybabies ignorant twits, huh? 

No, I seriously doubt Bear is getting paid by Barrier Breakers.  I'm sure they have standards.

"Why must you constantly deflect?"

Because I can't force people to tell the truth or at least verify what they call facts. I quoted word or word what Trump said about John McCain being a war hero and the Green Bay guy calls me a liar. If it's not harassment, why is necessary for several people to call Bear stupid?

"Online harassment?  Sheesh, someone probably called the crybabies ignorant twits, huh?"

What I highlighted in yellow was a quote from Barrier Breakers 2016.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

I know it was from there;  I read the article, but my point was that the site is paying for supporters to push back, to be trolls and bear called B.S., so I proved it to him.

Why is it necessary to call Bear stupid?  Have you even read his posts?  His most legible ones are C&P from websites...and biased ones at that.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Sep 29, 2016

Good grief, Stack.  Why must you constantly deflect?  It's become your standard M.O. 

Online harassment?  Sheesh, someone probably called the crybabies ignorant twits, huh? 

No, I seriously doubt Bear is getting paid by Barrier Breakers.  I'm sure they have standards.

           LOL

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 29, 2016

Why should they stop talking about trump's TAXES?????

    Cause you sound like a broken record...Hit With Stickand people are getting tired of hearing you talk about it..  give it a rest.......

bigbear29

OK!  trump release your taxes!  Stop hiding your taxes!

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 29, 2016

OK!  trump release your taxes!  Stop hiding your taxes!

Maybe if Hilldog releases her emails, Trump will release his taxes. LOL.

I think the her emails are more important than his taxes. But you're all hung up on superfluous junk. (I know, it's a big word for you).

bigbear29

trump will never release his taxes!  And he will lose some votes because of that.

 

By on Sun, Jul 31st, 2016 at 12:03 pm

Donald Trump admitted in a new interview that if he releases his tax returns, he will lose the election.

 

Donald Trump defended his tax returns as legal, but that doesn’t mean that it’s right. What Trump is most likely hiding is the fact that he hasn’t paid any personal income taxes for decades. Trump isn’t paying his fair share of taxes. That is what he is hiding. Donald Trump is trying to pass himself off as some sort of blue-collar billionaire while he is manipulating the system in a way that no working class American ever could.

Anyone with an ounce of knowledge knows that being compared to Richard Nixon is not good, but Trump considers Nixon “interesting.”

Trump knows that if his tax returns come out, he’ll lose the election. The reason why he hasn’t released his returns has nothing to do with an audit or Mitt Romney.

If his tax returns are made public, America will see, and reject, the real Donald Trump.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 29, 2016

trump will never release his taxes!  And he will lose some votes because of that.

 

By on Sun, Jul 31st, 2016 at 12:03 pm

Donald Trump admitted in a new interview that if he releases his tax returns, he will lose the election.

 

Donald Trump defended his tax returns as legal, but that doesn’t mean that it’s right. What Trump is most likely hiding is the fact that he hasn’t paid any personal income taxes for decades. Trump isn’t paying his fair share of taxes. That is what he is hiding. Donald Trump is trying to pass himself off as some sort of blue-collar billionaire while he is manipulating the system in a way that no working class American ever could.

Anyone with an ounce of knowledge knows that being compared to Richard Nixon is not good, but Trump considers Nixon “interesting.”

Trump knows that if his tax returns come out, he’ll lose the election. The reason why he hasn’t released his returns has nothing to do with an audit or Mitt Romney.

If his tax returns are made public, America will see, and reject, the real Donald Trump.

If Hilldog's emails are REALLY exposed, America will see, and reject the real Hilldog.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trump will release his taxes when bigbear proves he has a job.

bigbear29

Fox News Poll: Voters think Clinton and Trump will 'do anything' to win:

 

Most voters think Hillary Clinton is dishonest and will do anything to get elected, and many feel it’s likely the Clintons were selling influence through their foundation.  At the same time, most think Donald Trump is dishonest and will do anything to get elected, and many think he’s hiding something in his unreleased tax returns. 

That’s according to the latest Fox News Poll.

It’s tough to say who stinks more.  A large 44-percent minority says both Clinton and Trump are “terrible” candidates.  Voters dislike each -- and say they are dishonest and lack empathy. 

Only 35 percent say Trump is honest and trustworthy, barely better than the 31 percent who say Clinton is.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Sep 29, 2016

I don't think he will be riding a bus, train, bicycle or anything else as his "job" is hanging out in his room.

So true.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 29, 2016

Trump will release his taxes when bigbear proves he has a job.

ROFL     ROFL    ROFL     ROFL     ROFL

Perfect! I actually laughed out loud, all we needed was the bu dum dah! Drum

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 29, 2016

trump will never release his taxes!  And he will lose some votes because of that.

 

By on Sun, Jul 31st, 2016 at 12:03 pm

Donald Trump admitted in a new interview that if he releases his tax returns, he will lose the election.

 

Donald Trump defended his tax returns as legal, but that doesn’t mean that it’s right. What Trump is most likely hiding is the fact that he hasn’t paid any personal income taxes for decades. Trump isn’t paying his fair share of taxes. That is what he is hiding. Donald Trump is trying to pass himself off as some sort of blue-collar billionaire while he is manipulating the system in a way that no working class American ever could.

Anyone with an ounce of knowledge knows that being compared to Richard Nixon is not good, but Trump considers Nixon “interesting.”

Trump knows that if his tax returns come out, he’ll lose the election. The reason why he hasn’t released his returns has nothing to do with an audit or Mitt Romney.

If his tax returns are made public, America will see, and reject, the real Donald Trump.

  If you think Trump's taxes is going to determine if he wins or loses votes than you are from another PLANET... cause we have bigger issues than worrying about Trump releasing his taxes... your just jealous about Trump cause Trump knows the laws in how he can do his taxes just like other people know and use them to their best interest... and Trump is not stupid enough to lose all that he has worked for over not paying his taxes... Trump is smarter than Hillary when it comes to Business Deals...

bigbear29

Trump wanted to fire women who weren't pretty enough, say employees at his California golf club:

 

Donald Trump wanted only the pretty ones, his employees said.

After the Trump National Golf Club in Rancho Palos Verdes opened for play in 2005, its world-famous owner didn’t stop by more than a few times a year to visit the course hugging the coast of the Pacific.

When Trump did visit, the club’s managers went on alert. They scheduled the young, thin, pretty women on staff to work the clubhouse restaurant  — because when Trump saw less-attractive women working at his club, according to court records, he wanted them fired.

"I had witnessed Donald Trump tell managers many times while he was visiting the club that restaurant hostesses were 'not pretty enough' and that they should be fired and replaced with more attractive women,” Hayley Strozier, who was director of catering at the club until 2008, said in a sworn declaration. 

Initially, Trump gave this command “almost every time” he visited, Strozier said. Managers eventually changed employee schedules “so that the most attractive women were scheduled to work when Mr. Trump was scheduled to be at the club," she said

A similar story is told by former Trump employees in court documents filed in 2012 in a broad labor relations lawsuit brought against one of Trump’s development companies in Los Angeles County Superior Court.

The employees’ declarations in support of the lawsuit, which have not been reported in detail until now, show the extent to which they believed Trump, now the Republican presidential nominee, pressured subordinates at one of his businesses to create and enforce a culture of beauty, where female employees’ appearances were prized over their skills.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 29, 2016

Why should they stop talking about trump's TAXES?????

bigbear29,

Trump e-mailed his tax returns to Hillary. They must have mysteriously got 'deleted'.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 29, 2016

bigbear29,

Trump e-mailed his tax returns to Hillary. They must have mysteriously got 'deleted'.

Omg lol lol

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 29, 2016

bigbear29,

Trump e-mailed his tax returns to Hillary. They must have mysteriously got 'deleted'.

lol! that's what happened! LOL...and if she wants them resent, she better get them before Oct 1st...the Chinese or

Russians might get it after that..or they might just wind up as censored information and get deleted or filed somewhere.

 

5 AG's file suit against transfer of internet control to ICANN...Texas AG said trusting authoritarian regimes to insure the 

freedom of the internet is lunacy. And the suit states that handing over government property is against the US Constitution

and that the president has no right to do it without Congressional approval..An internet law professor said Russia or China 

could wind up managing fbi.gov or army.mil...also said losing control of our web domains puts the nations security at risk.

Ted Cruz, yeah that one...said that Obama administrative actions are dangerous and indefensible. FCC commissioner said

handing over control to ICANN should worry anyone who cherishes free expression and free speech rights. 

 

Obama did it again and Hillary will continue the destruction of this nation.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Sep 29, 2016

lol! that's what happened! LOL...and if she wants them resent, she better get them before Oct 1st...the Chinese or

Russians might get it after that..or they might just wind up as censored information and get deleted or filed somewhere.

 

5 AG's file suit against transfer of internet control to ICANN...Texas AG said trusting authoritarian regimes to insure the 

freedom of the internet is lunacy. And the suit states that handing over government property is against the US Constitution

and that the president has no right to do it without Congressional approval..An internet law professor said Russia or China 

could wind up managing fbi.gov or army.mil...also said losing control of our web domains puts the nations security at risk.

Ted Cruz, yeah that one...said that Obama administrative actions are dangerous and indefensible. FCC commissioner said

handing over control to ICANN should worry anyone who cherishes free expression and free speech rights. 

 

Obama did it again and Hillary will continue the destruction of this nation.

I don't blame Obummer. I blame the idiots that voted for him because we all knew what he's about.

Now we have idiots that want to vote for the SAME THING AGAIN!!!???

INSANITY.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 29, 2016

bigbear29,

Trump e-mailed his tax returns to Hillary. They must have mysteriously got 'deleted'.

          Green laugh

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Trump, release those taxes so bigbear will shut up.  I think the only thing he wants to hide is how little he had

to pay.  As long as he followed the tax laws I don't care if he got back millions even if he paid nothing in.  He has

said he has been under tax audits for 15 years.  Seems to me that if he had broke the law the IRS would be all

over it.   Trump may not pay personal taxes but don't forget that he pays millions in employer taxes.  If bigbear

won a big jackpot I think he would shelter every cent without taking a risk investing it in something that would

make things better for many.   Why don't more people start a business?  It's because they don't have the balls.

Let me ask you this, if you won a 100 million jackpot, would you leverage it to borrow another 200 million to start

a company where you could put many to work.  My guess is no.  Lottery players want to win big so they can set

back and  do nothing, nothing that is but buy more tickets hoping to win again.   Not putting anyone down here

just putting things in contrast.  Little know, little expected.  Trump is a fighter in what he does and if he takes a

cheap shot from time to time then that's OK with me.   

 

Tribute to Hilda for bigbear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXjbXGyQDsE

bigbear29

Yes, I will shut up if trump will release his taxes.  But we all know that trump will not release his taxes.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

I'll bet you are a real joy to be around, good lord.  Spare us your cra$.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Sep 29, 2016

I know it was from there;  I read the article, but my point was that the site is paying for supporters to push back, to be trolls and bear called B.S., so I proved it to him.

Why is it necessary to call Bear stupid?  Have you even read his posts?  His most legible ones are C&P from websites...and biased ones at that.

"my point was that the site is paying for supporters to push back"

I understand why people with too much time on their hands rag on one candidate or the other on sites like this, but some of the people here actually believe their childish insults will convince people to change their votes. I know I waste lots of time discussing politics, but I try to stick to the facts. Right now the facts are Texas and KY will be red on election night regardless of who we vote for. 

"Why is it necessary to call Bear stupid?  Have you even read his posts?"

Bear is a rookie at this and is making rookie mistakes. One of these days they might ask if Clinton is such a bad candidate as the majority here is saying, why isn't Trump up by 20 points?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Sep 29, 2016

I don't blame Obummer. I blame the idiots that voted for him because we all knew what he's about.

Now we have idiots that want to vote for the SAME THING AGAIN!!!???

INSANITY.

Aw, everybody but you is an idiot because you are the smartest person in the World. How do you intellectual types reconcile supporting and voting for McCain in 2008 and now supporting Trump after he said John McCain and POWs are not war heroes?

“He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 30, 2016

Aw, everybody but you is an idiot because you are the smartest person in the World. How do you intellectual types reconcile supporting and voting for McCain in 2008 and now supporting Trump after he said John McCain and POWs are not war heroes?

“He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

Stack

I had a uncle that was shot down 3 times in WWII and the last time he was captured by the SS and spent

the rest of the war in a SS prison camp.  Near the end the SS forced marched them from camp to camp until

one day he woke up and they had all fled during the night.  He never considered himself a Hero as he made

it out alive.   I guess there are different levels of heroism.

RL

bigbear29

"He never considered himself a hero", they are all heros when they put that uniform on.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 30, 2016

"my point was that the site is paying for supporters to push back"

I understand why people with too much time on their hands rag on one candidate or the other on sites like this, but some of the people here actually believe their childish insults will convince people to change their votes. I know I waste lots of time discussing politics, but I try to stick to the facts. Right now the facts are Texas and KY will be red on election night regardless of who we vote for. 

"Why is it necessary to call Bear stupid?  Have you even read his posts?"

Bear is a rookie at this and is making rookie mistakes. One of these days they might ask if Clinton is such a bad candidate as the majority here is saying, why isn't Trump up by 20 points?

...but some of the people here actually believe their childish insults will convince people to change their votes

Not me.  I know there's no changing his mind.  Some might say it's a character fault, but in the case of someone like bear, I enjoy pointing out how incredibly ignorant they are and what's worse, how much of a partisan hack they happen to be.  It's akin to pulling wings off of flies, which would make me cruel (mea culpa!) but the analogy is reinforced when you consider what flies are attracted to.

Bear is a rookie at this and is making rookie mistakes.

"Rookie" is generous and far-too-kind to him.  "Numbnuts" would be more fitting.

...why isn't Trump up by 20 points?

Because as you well know, the country is pretty much divided in half.  I would turn that back around at you and ask if Trump is such a bad candidate, then why isn't he DOWN by 20 pts.?   There have only been a few in this thread defend Hillary and I don't know why that is.  It might be that any other supporters in here know they would have a hard time defending her.   I might be mistaken, but I don't recall ever defending Trump, but have been attacking Hillary...which as far as I can tell, only happens in message boards and forums such as this as well as in a few right-wing websites, but certainly not by the MSM.

Trump has his faults, some "Yuge" ones and has made some incredibly stupid statements.  He has no filter and while candor is usually refreshing, a politician needs to parse their words more carefully than he has.  He's obnoxiously brash and likes to play the bully.  I have problems with much of what he's said and how he's acted and some of the things he's done but I have the same problem with Hillary, only ten-fold.   It's as I said, this election, same as the last two, is the choice between the lesser of two evils.  Yes, even the lesser is still evil, but the greater evil is worse.   To me, Trump is like the guy arrested for drunkenly urinating in public, while Hillary is the person who drove the getaway car after a bank robbery.  The former is distasteful, but the latter is unforgivable.

I would vote Libertarian, but I think the weed has put too much tar in Johnson's brain and Stein?  Pffft, she's a joke.  So, it's either leave the box un-ticked or vote for Trump.  I was this >.< close to being a "No-Trumper" but again, I'm much more of an "Anybody But Hillary" person.  The only other viable "anybody" is the loudmouth.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Trump isn't perfect. Hilldog is most definitely not perfect. That is part of the problem in the country today. The media spends it's time looking for every teeny flaw for Hilldog and Trump, and people want the perfect candidate. There is no such thing. Candidates are people, and people are flawed. 

For me, the things Hilldog has done are unforgivable. Benghazi. Clinton Foundation. Stealing items from the White House when Bill was president. Just to name a few.

Again, if you want the same old same old, tired politician, doing the same things we've had for the last 8 years. Hilldog is it.

If you want a non-politician who doesn't have special interests, or anyone else for that matter in his pocket, who owes nothing to anybody to help him get elected, and will change the way politics is today, because he doesn't care about Repub or Dem, Trump is it. Warts and all.

He knows how to gets things done. He does not care if feelings are hurt. He just gets things done that need to be done, and if that means he has to be mean at times, so be it.

bigbear29

What makes me a numbnut mike?  Because I do not believe in that IDIOT called trump?

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 30, 2016

What makes me a numbnut mike?  Because I do not believe in that IDIOT called trump?

Blindly supporting Hillary, for the most part.  I'm voting for Trump, but at least I won't do so blindly and will admit his faults and things he's done.  Of course, it "helps", for lack of a better word, that I really dislike him.  That said, if you put his faults and transgressions on one end of a scale and Hillary's on the other end, hers would plummet to the bottom, breaking the scale.   She's crooked as a dog's hind leg;  Trump is just a snake oil salesman.  He's snarky, she's slimy.

For cryin' out loud, stop with the tax returns.  For what it's worth, I'd like to see them too.  You know what I'm thinking, though?  He's using them as a distraction, just like Obama did with the birth certificate controversy. The President could have released the copy of his BC, but let it be a long, drawn-out affair, letting his supporters attack anyone who had doubts and labeling them as nutters.  Just pick any other of Trump's issues and if you do it in a reasonable manner, then I'll leave you alone or at least try to rebut your point.  It's not easy for me to defend Trump but it's beyond me how anyone can defend Hillary.

People who sound like broken records annoy the hell outta me, just like that Aussie who kept harping on lottery anonymity.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

MikeinTexas, excellent response and the comment about Trump/Taxes vs. Obama/Birth Certificate makes absolute sense to me. Let the media do the dirty work.  But then again I am a Conservative/Republican and a "deplorable" human being.

bigbear29

Blindly!  because I do not agree to your BULL!  trump has not admitted to anything he's done or said, he's a total idiot.  And he really should release his taxes, because trump is no different than any other candidate.  Trump whines about everything because trump is a sore loser.  Obama did not use his birth certificate as a distraction, that is total stupidity.  And what did trump do 5 years after seeing the birth certificate?  Trump kept the the BS going, so you are totally incorrect.  And I could care less if you keep this up or leave me alone.  And it's beyond me also how anyone could defend trump.  Oh and here's my broken record, trump should release his taxes.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

I'm so glad you're here in this forum.  If anyone tells me "You're the dumbest S.O.B. in here. " I'll say:

"Nuh uh.  There's bigbear29!"

dr65's avatardr65

Agree on taxes/birth certificate..both hold outs for different reasons. Obama submitted something, whether it's a certificate of

HIS birth with every line being correct, who knows?...crooked politicians have done similar and worse. Trump's taxes are going

to be scrutinized and a fire starter, we already know that. Why were so many people after so long able to accept that Obama's

birth certificate was legitimate? I think because they finally breathed a sigh of relief. They accepted it and wanted the issue to

go away. Trump's tax issue will not go away, every line of it will be reported on, questioned, sized up and blown up. The powers

that be in the media want to get their hands on it and are reporting the American people want to know..well, ok but who wants

to know more? I say who cares. Some say the same. CNN and the likes say release, release, release. It isn't news, it's sheer

sensationalism. He's been examined he says for the past 15 years..if there was something seriously wrong there and against

the law, he would be in trouble for it. Unlike Hillary who is untouchable and not because she innocent but because she's protected,

Trump would be in jail or heavily fined and don't you think that news would leak? 

I don't want someone elected president who lied for years and got away with it. What's the worst thing you can say about Trump?

He's rough around the edges? He's a rich business man? He says what's on his mind or is the worst that he wants to make America

great again. I guess that's the biggest problem, he says he wants to do what you Hillary supporters are insulted with because

you were all lead along and fooled for so many years that everything was already great. Hillary has so many ties to the Middle East

and all kinds of countries because she has to, it's more than diplomacy...it has lots to do with the Clinton Foundation and donations

running in from countries who should be getting backlash instead of support. She and Bilbo have their hands tied because of the

money. Big, big money. They were bought and the price is you and all of us. Put Hillary in the White House and watch her as

she stabs you in the back and pads her already stuffed pockets with more donations for favors. Maybe contrails are real...something

is falling down on you Hillary people. You are convinced a professional liar is the best thing for this country. When disaster strikes she,

if elected, will be telling us all it's alright. She's used to your weakness and she's used to having her way. Her power is money, why don't

you let her know it won't work this time? Or are you just too comfortable with how things have been for so long that you settled for 

what you think can't change? Sad, very sad.

dr65's avatardr65

CNN needs to be put out of business or get a crash course in unbiased reporting.

Trump getting trashed again for not doing news conferences. Hillary hasn't done any in 8 months, he doesn't

do any in 2 months and it's major news. I wouldn't do them either. Who needs the head hunter press?

Hillary doesn't need to do them because they rise her up every chance they get.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Sep 30, 2016

I'm so glad you're here in this forum.  If anyone tells me "You're the dumbest S.O.B. in here. " I'll say:

"Nuh uh.  There's bigbear29!"

You are why I cannot read this forum at work. My coworkers wondered what  was so funny. Lol nuh uh lol

dr65's avatardr65

YouTube Presidential Debate September 26, 2016 

Fox News 857,400 views at 2:35:31

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubp0CEbqW-U

 

in the video Hillary is leaning over to shake hands...on her back near her lying

backside is an outline...the curve/bunching of her jacket looks like that's what it is but follow it down there is an edge

there of what seems to be a device..the curve would not jut out and drop like that, it would be smooth.

and there's this...

 

http://christiantimesnewspaper.com/breaking-hillary-caught-wearing-earpiece-during-first-debate/

 

and yeah, it's christian times newspaper but you tell me...

crap..just copy/paste that link..

Another excused violation of the rules.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Sep 30, 2016

CNN needs to be put out of business or get a crash course in unbiased reporting.

Trump getting trashed again for not doing news conferences. Hillary hasn't done any in 8 months, he doesn't

do any in 2 months and it's major news. I wouldn't do them either. Who needs the head hunter press?

Hillary doesn't need to do them because they rise her up every chance they get.

That's why Trump calls CNN the Clinton News Network.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 29, 2016

Yes, I will shut up if trump will release his taxes.  But we all know that trump will not release his taxes.

Find me a tax attorney who says its OK to release tax info while still under audit?   Logic won't stop your posts though huh.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Sep 30, 2016

That's why Trump calls CNN the Clinton News Network.

lol and I'm sure if someone dug a little bit, they might find she owns it. Puke

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Sep 30, 2016

lol and I'm sure if someone dug a little bit, they might find she owns it. Puke

Nooooooo the DNC owns it....so of course there is no connection there. Lol

bigbear29

There is no proof that trump's taxes are in audit.

sully16's avatarsully16

Democrats are plain stupid and easy to manipulate.

                                                        Hillary Clinton, 2005

Democrats are stupid and Republicans are deplorable, I guess she dislikes all Americans equally.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Sep 30, 2016

There is no proof that trump's taxes are in audit.

The IRS has confirmed it. His attorneys advised him not to release them at this time. He is following his attorneys advise.

bigbear29

Trump’s Lawyer Is Asked About Unreleased Tax Returns, Blames Media Instead:

Trump’s Special Counsel Michael Cohen did not answer direct questions on CNN Thursday night about the presidential candidate’s refusal to release his tax returns, retreating instead to familiar excuses about Trump’s supposed ongoing audit and the media.

“I personally will not allow him to release those tax returns until the audits are over,” he said. He affirmed that he would not even release the tax returns for the years that are not presently under audit.

Cohen noted that some lawyers would advise Trump to do the same, or else risk malpractice. However, Cohen did not acknowledge that Trump was a person running to be leader of the free world, and therefore there was a significant public interest — not to mention 40 years of precedent — that might compel Trump to reveal whether or not he has been forthcoming with the American public about his finances.

AsNewsweek  recently reported, Trump has actually produced no evidence from the IRS that he is even under audit. When Wolf Blitzerchallenged Cohen on this point, the attorney deflected. By way of explaining why Trump would not produce proof that he was under audit, Cohen said, “C’mon Wolf, the man’s telling you he’s under audit.”

bigbear29

Trump, of course, has refused to release his tax returns, citing various reasons: the IRS is auditing them, they’re too complicated for ordinary people to understand, they won’t show anything not already revealed in a detailed financial disclosure form he filed with the government, as required. None of those really passes the sniff test: There’s nothing about beingaudited that prevents disclosure; some voters surely are smart enough to understand Trump’s returns; and Trump’s financial disclosure forms don’t reveal two basic things: his income or the amount he pays in taxes.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Still want Hillary?

Is America Ready For Hillary Clinton's 'Shariah Advisor' In The White House?

http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/is-america-ready-for-hillary-clintons-shariah-advisor-in-the-white-house/

Some have expressed concern that Bill Clinton might be back in the White House, this time as the first gentleman.

But as worried as they might be, at least Bill isn't a supporter of Shariah law. We wonder if we can say the same thing about the person who will be one of Hillary's chief, if not top, advisor.

Huma Abedin has been called Hillary's "shadow" by Politico. Hillary has said if she had a second daughter, it would be Abedin. She has been with the Democratic presidential candidate since 1996, when Hillary was first lady.

Abedin has followed Clinton through her years as a U.S. senator from New York and was by her side when Hillary was wrecking America's foreign relations and making a mess in the Middle East as secretary of state. While deputy chief of staff to Clinton at State, Abedin also worked for the Clinton Foundation and Teneo, a consulting firm that does business with international business titans.

Today, Abedin is ranked third in the Clinton presidential campaign hierarchy. If Hillary is elected, Abedin will surely have an office in the West Wing where she will use her formidable influence on Clinton to shape administration policy.

Just as Abedin has trailed Clinton for two decades, a serious question has trailed Abedin: Is she sympathetic to radical Islamists and a proponent of Shariah law in the U.S.? This question isn't asked because she's a practicing Muslim and speaks fluent Arabic. It's due to her family ties.

Four years ago, five congressman sent a letter to the State Department inspector general, charging that Abedin's father, mother and brother were associated with the Muslim Brotherhood, which is considered a terrorist organization by several nations, though not the U.S. The letter cited "a personal intervention by Secretary Clinton that allowed a prominent Muslim Brotherhood leader, Tariq Ramadan, to enter the United States — overturning a policy of the previous administration that precluded him from doing so."

A former federal prosecutor also noticed that U.S. policy "radically shifted in the Brotherhood's favor" while Abedin was in the State Department.

For their efforts, the five U.S. lawmakers were treated as cranks by the Democrats and media. But were they on to something? That's unknown. The story essentially died. The legacy media couldn't be expected to dig into it because it might cast one of their own — a Democrat — in a poor light.

We do know some things, though, and one of them is that Abedin's late father, Syed Abedin, was a firm defender of Shariah law. A video from a 1971 interview that has recently surfaced shows Syed, a Muslim scholar, discussing Islam's "hostile" response to the West's involvement in the Middle East. He seems to also argue that Shariah law must be enforced by national governments in Muslim countries.

Huma's mother, Saleha Abedin, also has an interesting history. She was editor-in-chief of the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs, a Shariah law periodical, from 1995 to 2008. Paul Sperry, a former IBD bureau chief, reported last month in the New York Post that Huma worked "for her mother's journal through 2008. She is listed as 'assistant editor' on the masthead of the 2002 issue in which her mother suggested the U.S. was doomed to be attacked on 9/11 because of 'sanctions' it leveled against Iraq and other 'injustices' allegedly heaped on the Muslim world."

Huma's brother, Hassan, is also an editor at the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs.

Huma's mother's sketchy ties don't end on those pages. Kenneth R. Timmerman, a former Republican congressional candidate and current Donald Trump supporter, wrote last month inThe Hill that Saleha "sits on the Presidency Staff Council of the International Islamic Council for Da'wa and Relief, a group that is chaired by the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi."

Huma's father had his own Muslim Brotherhood connection, says former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy. And it wasn't tenuous.

"There is persuasive evidence," he wrote in 2012 in PJ Media, "that her father was a member of the Brotherhood."

One can imagine the shape of the conversations around the Abedin dinner table. Huma must be steeped in the twisted ideas that drive Islam's hostility toward the West. Could it plausibly be any other way?

Of course the mainstream media don't care much. They see it as their job to get Clinton elected, no matter who she has hitched herself to.

Imagine, though, the media response if it turned out that the mother of one of Trump's high-ranking advisors had been a member of a group of harmless old ladies who met now and then to honor the Confederate dead and tend to their graves. There would be an inquisition. That person would be drummed out of her position and have to go into hiding. The issue would become a truncheon used to club Trump whenever the campaign-media complex needed it.

But anyone associated with Hillary Clinton is an angel who should never be held up to scrutiny, no matter what their family ties are.

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Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 1, 2016

Trump, of course, has refused to release his tax returns, citing various reasons: the IRS is auditing them, they’re too complicated for ordinary people to understand, they won’t show anything not already revealed in a detailed financial disclosure form he filed with the government, as required. None of those really passes the sniff test: There’s nothing about beingaudited that prevents disclosure; some voters surely are smart enough to understand Trump’s returns; and Trump’s financial disclosure forms don’t reveal two basic things: his income or the amount he pays in taxes.

Why aren't you harping on Hilldog's emails? What is she hiding?

Unlike Trump's tax return, those emails involved national security.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 1, 2016

Trump, of course, has refused to release his tax returns, citing various reasons: the IRS is auditing them, they’re too complicated for ordinary people to understand, they won’t show anything not already revealed in a detailed financial disclosure form he filed with the government, as required. None of those really passes the sniff test: There’s nothing about beingaudited that prevents disclosure; some voters surely are smart enough to understand Trump’s returns; and Trump’s financial disclosure forms don’t reveal two basic things: his income or the amount he pays in taxes.

....some voters surely are smart enough to understand Trump’s returns

That leaves you out, huh?

bigbear29

Trump’s bad week is a ‘nightmare’ for the GOP:

Republican leaders and strategists are unnerved by Donald Trump’s erratic attacks on a Latina beauty queen and other outbursts this week, increasingly fearful that the GOP nominee is damaging his White House hopes and doing lasting harm to the party in the campaign’s final stretch.

Party officials said they are newly embarrassed by Trump’s impulsive behavior and exasperated by his inability to concentrate on his change message and frame the race as a referendum on Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, according to interviews with more than two dozen of them.

bigbear29

Fox News Poll: Clinton ahead of Trump after debate, fear motivating both sides:

The consequences of the debate, which voters score as a win for Clinton by nearly three-to-one, are even clearer on other measures.  Trump’s honesty rating is down, most still say he doesn’t have the right temperament, and over half wouldn’t be comfortable with him as president.

Meanwhile, more voters now see Clinton as honest than Trump, the number who say she has the right temperament is up, and over half think her long tenure in government is a positive.  Plus, her support increased among women, non-whites, and younger voters.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 1, 2016

....some voters surely are smart enough to understand Trump’s returns

That leaves you out, huh?

Lol You are on a roll. Nuh uh lol

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What in the world is: center left, to the center right? Is that like, one size fit all just so I have your vote?

That catch as many as you can comment by Hillary will be used as often as necessary up to election day.

Expect her to be more of what more people want then store it away in a basement somewhere with the

other basement dwellers she's trying to win over after election day.

Puke

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Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 1, 2016

Lol You are on a roll. Nuh uh lol

Thank you!  I'll be here all week.  Literally, all week.

Don't forget to tip your waitress!

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 1, 2016

Thank you!  I'll be here all week.  Literally, all week.

Don't forget to tip your waitress!

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and the paperwork...I'll bet Hillary wished 'it would all...just...blow...away...'

 

Side note to all..Hillary's team digging up dirt on Trump...more dirt....Debate #2 might just be too uncomfortable

to watch...in fact, I bet it will be.

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I think you're right, dr.  I believe that Trump just had his wet finger in the air, testing to see which way the wind blew.  He didn't want to start off by insulting, but instead let Hillary do the most trash talking.  The gloves will come off w/ this next debate, I reckon.   If we're lucky, he'll make her so angry she'll stroke out on national TV.

I haven't read much on it, but just skimmed over the headlines, but I wonder if there really is anything to the charge that Hillary was using a receiver in her ear as well as getting a copy of the questions ahead of time...plus using signals to the moderator to cue up the next favorable question?

bigbear29

Donald Trump Called a Female Journalist the C Word to Her Editor Over a Story He Never Read:

Donald Trump called journalist Jennifer Lin the c word -- to her editor -- in retaliation for a story of hers that he never actually read. This is such typical Trump it burns.

Donald Trump is making headlines for his misogynistic abuse of the winner of 1996’s Miss Universe Pageant, Alicia Machado.

Sadly she is hardly alone in getting the Donald Treatment. Donald Trump consistently verbally abuses women.

Jennifer Lin, a former financial correspondent in New York City for The Philadelphia Inquirer, wrote Thursday morning about the time Donald Trump called her the c word — to her editor — in retaliation for a story of hers that he never actually read. This is such typical Trump it burns.

First Trump called Lin and screamed at her, peppering her with the word “sh*t” to describe her writing. (It turned out he had never actually read her story so he was calling it “sh*t” for no reason.)

“Then he called my editor in Philadelphia, Craig Stock. Now it was Craig’s turn to “Hold for Mr. Trump,” Lin wrote in Billy Pen.

“Craig was treated to the same Trumpian wordplay, but got an added treat. Trump referred to me as ‘that c*nt.’”

And the gold, “Craig, a calm Iowan, asked Trump what was wrong with the story. He explained that The Inquirer would run a correction if the paper had made an error. Trump snapped that he didn’t read the story.”

Trump told the editor that no one reads the story. He read the headline and he didn’t like it. This, too, is typical Trump. He fires first and asks questions later.

Donald Trump called her boss to complain about a story he hadn’t even read and yet felt entitled to call her the c word to her boss.

Trump’s harassment of female journalists is nothing new. In fact, this story repeats itself so often it’s as if Trump were Roger Ailes, before he got busted for serial sexual harassment.

But then Donald Trump defended Ailes even when numerous women said they had been sexually harassed by the former Fox News chief, ironically claiming to do so based on what he “read”.

Journalist Selina Scott had to threaten Trump with a lawyer in order to get him to stop harassing her after she rebuffed his advances and had the temerity to do her job by showing footage of him bragging and then getting busted exaggerating. In other words, she told the truth about Trump and refused his advances, and so he spent years retaliating against her.

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You really need to quit the C&P jobs, Teddy.  Unless you have permission to do so, it's a copyright violation to use all or a substantial part of an article.  Depending upon the website's TOU, you usually CAN quote snippets of the article, but you also need to link to the quoted material, if for nothing else than a courtesy to the reader as well as acknowledging the site from which it originated.   

Of course, doing it the right way involves ethics and considering who you support, it's no wonder you lack those.

Here's how you should do it:  Secret Service agents: Hillary is a nightmare to work with

“Good morning, ma’am,” a member of the uniformed Secret Service once greeted Hillary Clinton.

“F— off,” she replied.

That exchange is one among many that active and retired Secret Service agents shared with Ronald Kessler, author of “First Family Detail,” a compelling look at the intrepid personnel who shield America’s presidents and their families — and those whom they guard.

So, Trump used the "C" word, huh?  Coincidentally, that's what I call you when I read your posts, only I use an equally offensive modifier in front of it.

The "C" word - it's not just for women anymore!

bigbear29

Donald Trump Is Seen as Helping Push Asian-Americans Into Democratic Arms:

LAS VEGAS — On paper at least, Asian-Americans seem like perfect Republicans. Many are small-business owners. Their communities tend to be more culturally conservative. And a lot of them, having fled oppressive Communist governments, found comfort in the Republican Party’s aggressive anti-Communist policies.

But in what could be a significant realignment of political allegiance, Asian-Americans are identifying as Democrats at a quicker pace than any other racial group. And many Republicans worry this election will only accelerate that trend, damaging their party for years to come with what is now thefastest-growing minority in the country.

The Republican presidential nominee, Donald J. Trump, is not helping. His attacks on the Chinese — which he has sometimes delivered in a crude, mocking accent — are a feature of his populist campaign. He has suggested cutting off immigration from the Philippines, citing fears that the longtime American ally poses the same national security threat as countries like Syria and Afghanistan.

Mr. Trump’s talk of deporting millions of undocumented immigrants has also stirred up painful memories among a group that has been singled out under American law before, whether by the Chinese Exclusion Act, whichbarred the immigration of Chinese laborers until 1943, or by the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II.

“It’s like we’re going back in time,” said Marc Matsuo of Las Vegas, who grew up in Hawaii with parents of Japanese ancestry and recalled how his family used to feel uncomfortable expressing their heritage, to the point they would not speak Japanese. He now helps register Asian-Americans to vote. “I was always brought up that you don’t talk about religion, you don’t talk about politics. Not anymore.”

Hillary Clinton’s campaign has a resident staff member in Las Vegas dedicated to Asian-Americans and Pacific Islanders. Staff members and volunteers here speak Chinese, Korean, Hindi and Tagalog, the Filipino language. The campaign has recently been conducting native language training on how to use voting machines in a local Chinese cultural center. Volunteers are sent to court supporters in Buddhist temples.

bigbear29

Donald Trump Is Seen as Helping Push Asian-Americans Into Democratic Arms part 2:

Hillary Clinton’s campaign has a resident staff member in Las Vegas dedicated to Asian-Americans and Pacific Islanders. Staff members and volunteers here speak Chinese, Korean, Hindi and Tagalog, the Filipino language. The campaign has recently been conducting native language training on how to use voting machines in a local Chinese cultural center. Volunteers are sent to court supporters in Buddhist temples.

Republicans’ difficulties with Asian-Americans are similar to those the party has faced with most minority groups. A sense that the party is hostile to immigrants and minorities has driven more Asian-American voters into the Democratic Party lately, political scientists and community leaders said. And if Republicans do not make more of an effort, those voting shifts could harden, just as Hispanics’ voting patterns have.

“What we see now are some early indications that people who either leaned toward the Democratic Party or did not identify with either party are now starting to identify as Democrats,” said Karthick Ramakrishnan, a professor of political science at the University of California, Riverside. “This is still a group that is making up its mind,” he added, “but it should be concerning to the Republican Party that you’re starting to see this crystallization.”

A national survey in the spring by Asian and Pacific Islander American Vote, a nonpartisan research group, showed “a significant leftward shift” since 2012 among Asian-American registered voters, with 47 percent now identifying with the Democratic Party, compared with 35 percent in 2012. Fifteen percent identified as Republican.

In 1992, the year national exit polls started reporting Asian-American sentiment, the group leaned Republican, supporting George Bush over Bill Clinton 55 percent to 31 percent. But by 2012, that had reversed. Asian-Americans overwhelmingly supported President Obama over Mitt Romney — 73 percent to 26 percent, almost the same margin by which Hispanics favored Mr. Obama.

dr65's avatardr65

I wondered when Hillary stopped using the name Rodham then wondered what it meant backwards

...it means something in the Middle East:

Murder

and loosely translated means:

wrong-doer

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The figures vary, but I read that 20% of Asian-Americans support Trump. That's not bad, and probably about the norm among that particular demographic support for a Republican candidate.

Meet some of the Chinese Americans voting for Trump

Tao Yu, a 48-year-old Chinese American woman, said meeting Donald Trump was a wonderful memory. “I told him, ‘Mr Trump, I’ve supported you from day one,’ and he kept telling me ‘Thank you,’” Yu remembered. “He is nothing like the mean and loud person the media has pictured. He is a gentleman.”

Yu, one of a group called “Chinese Americans for Trump,” was invited with a group of approximately 40 other members to meet with Donald Trump at a private event near his Beverly Hills home in June. The group took a picture with a T-shirt saying “Chinese Americans ♥ Trump.”

Facebook page: Asian-Americans for Trump

Twitter: Asians For Trump

I bet Teddy will wait thirty minutes and will post another Asian-American story unfavorable to Trump.

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dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 1, 2016

You really need to quit the C&P jobs, Teddy.  Unless you have permission to do so, it's a copyright violation to use all or a substantial part of an article.  Depending upon the website's TOU, you usually CAN quote snippets of the article, but you also need to link to the quoted material, if for nothing else than a courtesy to the reader as well as acknowledging the site from which it originated.   

Of course, doing it the right way involves ethics and considering who you support, it's no wonder you lack those.

Here's how you should do it:  Secret Service agents: Hillary is a nightmare to work with

“Good morning, ma’am,” a member of the uniformed Secret Service once greeted Hillary Clinton.

“F— off,” she replied.

That exchange is one among many that active and retired Secret Service agents shared with Ronald Kessler, author of “First Family Detail,” a compelling look at the intrepid personnel who shield America’s presidents and their families — and those whom they guard.

So, Trump used the "C" word, huh?  Coincidentally, that's what I call you when I read your posts, only I use an equally offensive modifier in front of it.

The "C" word - it's not just for women anymore!

I believe she is a most vile looking woman and her actions match her appearance. I can certainly see her acting like

a queen around the hired help and agree a person like her would think they are beneath her, there to serve her and 

expected to shut up around her. She has a nasty disposition. I almost want to say poor Bill, he's just a puppet too.

This type of woman and I'm sure everyone has run into one at some point in their life, can't be natural, can't be nice

and doesn't know how to be humane or compassionate unless it applies to her first. There are no holds on this wretch,

she won't hold back, so why should Trump? The only difference is, he will be headline news for not playing fair and for

treating a woman without respect. Well, she is no woman, she's a monster.

dr65's avatardr65

I love Chinese food but have to say if I opened a fortune cookie like that, it'd probably wind up back on the plate.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Reminds me of a joke, dr. 

A man walks into a bar, looks around and visibly annoyed, sits down at the end of the bar.  There was one other guy sitting at the other end who gets up w/ his drink and sits down near the man.  "Don't remember ever seeing you in here before." says the man.  "Buy you a drink?"

"No." curtly replies the man.  "I tried it once but didn't like it."

Nonplussed, the other guy went on trying to be friendly. "Have a smoke?" he asked, holding out his pack of cigarettes.

"No." replied the man with a haughty sniff. "I tried it once but didn't like it."

Undeterred, the man pressed on. "Hey, how 'bout them Yankees, huh?" only to be met with:

"No need to talk to me, sir.  I wouldn't even be in this place but this is where my son said to meet him."

The other guy quipped "Only child, I take it."



That would explain Chelsea, wouldn't you agree?  The only mystery would be was it Bill or Hillary who tried it once but didn't like it?  My money's on Hillary b/c Bill certainly tried it a LOT with a multitude of other women.

bigbear29

Trump polls miserably among Asian Americans:

Donald Trump is wildly unpopular among Asian-American voters, who are flocking to the Democratic Party, according to a new survey.

Only 19 percent of Asian Americans hold a favorable view of the presumptive Republican nominee, according to a survey of more than 1,000 registered Asian Americans conducted by three Asian-American NGOs, while 61 percent view him unfavorably.

That's nearly the opposite of Hillary Clinton, who is viewed favorably by 62 percent of Asian Americans — one of the fastest-growing minority populations in the country — and unfavorably by 26 percent. Clinton also scores 14 percentage points higher than her Democratic opponent Bernie Sanders, who earns a 48 percent favorability rating.

The survey asked respondents whether they planned to vote for a generic Republican or a Democrat in upcoming House and Senate races; it found that Asian American voters preferred Democrats by roughly a two-to-one margin. All told, Asian Americans hold a net favorable view of the Democratic Party, 66 percent favorable to 19 percent unfavorable, and a net unfavorable view of the GOP, 46 percent unfavorable to 28 percent favorable.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-asian-american-223502#ixzz4Ls4ZjY5u
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mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

I called it!  3:52 (CST) to 4:26 =34 minutes!

Teddy, you'll have to do better than the Pu Pu Platter ("numbah twenny two!") to whet MY appetite.

No tickee, no washee.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Yet the liberal elite thinks it is ok to use the "c"  word over and over from men of all ages at a roast and directed to Ann Coulter. 

And regarding these outdated beauty pageants, the winner typically signs a contract to maintain her weight within a few lbs.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Hillary reminds me of the aptly named, now deceased "Queen of Mean" LEONA HELMSLEY.   She was well known for her flamboyant personality (to put it nicely) and tyrannical behavior.

Evil Smile  Read up on Leona and you will see Hillary.  HITLERY IS THE NEW LEONA.Mad  Pure evil and I agree she IS a monster.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 1, 2016

Yet the liberal elite thinks it is ok to use the "c"  word over and over from men of all ages at a roast and directed to Ann Coulter. 

And regarding these outdated beauty pageants, the winner typically signs a contract to maintain her weight within a few lbs.

I started to bring that up, but decided against it unless someone bounced me out for my post! 

I used to participate in Coulter's forum, but was sickened by the talk from the neocons in there.  I like Ann, though and that wasn't the worst I've ever seen written about her, not by a long shot.  The accusations about her actually being a man showed me how hypocrisy runs deep amongst the leftists, same for Bruce Jenner.  It's OK to be gay or transgender IF you're a Democrat.  If you're a conservative black person, you're automatically an "Uncle Tom".  Yep, the party of tolerance and the Big Tent.

I was really disappointed by Jewel's comments.  No wonder Ty divorced her.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 1, 2016

Hillary reminds me of the aptly named, now deceased "Queen of Mean" LEONA HELMSLEY.   She was well known for her flamboyant personality (to put it nicely) and tyrannical behavior.

Evil Smile  Read up on Leona and you will see Hillary.  HITLERY IS THE NEW LEONA.Mad  Pure evil and I agree she IS a monster.

Oh, I don't know that Helmsley was THAT evil.  She loved her dog, didn't she? Wink

Hillary on the other hand, probably gets a new dog from the shelter every day to kick when she has one of her tantrums.  I bet she loves to drown kittens, sacks at a time. I heard that Socks, the White House cat during the Clinton administration, died under mysterious circumstances...the usual M.O. of the Clinton Criminal Cartel when someone or something has outlived their usefulness.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 1, 2016

Oh, I don't know that Helmsley was THAT evil.  She loved her dog, didn't she? Wink

Hillary on the other hand, probably gets a new dog from the shelter every day to kick when she has one of her tantrums.  I bet she loves to drown kittens, sacks at a time. I heard that Socks, the White House cat during the Clinton administration, died under mysterious circumstances...the usual M.O. of the Clinton Criminal Cartel when someone or something has outlived their usefulness.

Actually just to show you how callous the Clintons are, none of them wanted Socks and gave him to their secretary Betty Currie.

He lived to be almost 20.

bigbear29

Republican-leaning papers endorse Clinton; what will the Wall Street Journal do?:

Another day, another endorsement for Hillary Clinton from a conservative newspaper editorial board.

A few days after the Arizona Republic endorsed its first Democratic presidential candidate in its 126-year history, the San Diego Union-Tribune followed suit for the first time in its 148 years. The U-T piece offered a less-than-glowing assessment of Clinton, but its main focus was the litany of reasons why Donald Trump shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the Oval Office.

“Terrible leaders can knock nations off course,” the U-T’s editorial board observed Friday. “Venezuela is falling apart because of the obstinance and delusions of Hugo Chávez and his successor. Argentina is finally coming out of the chaos created by Cristina Kirchner and several of her predecessors. Trump could be our Chávez, our Kirchner. We cannot take that risk.”

bigbear29

DANG!!!!!!  Add two more newspapers for Hillary!

As Boas and the rest of the board waited for that report, other historically conservative papers around the country—including the  Republic’s “sister paper,” the Cincinnati Enquirer, and the Dallas Morning News, which merely “recommends” candidates to its readers—came out with their own surprising editorials in favor of Clinton. “All of us were coming to the same conclusion,” Boas said. “There is something extraordinary about this Republican candidate that was making us all break from our history.”

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In 2004, Hillary said  “I am adamantly against illegal immigrants.”  and voted for the appropriations bill to build a wall between the U.S. and Mexico.  Trump says the same thing, yet he's the racist?

During the '08 Democrat primaries, her campaign started the "birther" rumors, questioning Obama's U.S. citizenship.  They also circulated the now famous picture of Obama in full Muslim garb.  A LOT of people still think there's some controversy to all that and questions to be answered- myself included- but Trump takes all the heat?

 In May 2008, Clinton told USA Today that while Obama was leading the delegate race, she still had a broader political base. Unfortunately, she made that claim in explicitly racial terms, citing an Associated Press poll “that found how Senator Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”  I see...white Americans are the hard-working race, huh?  Why didn't Asians and Hispanics AND blacks take offense to that?

While not HER quote, her husband Bill said this of Obama "A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.”.  Hillary has never disavowed it, though.   Trump calls a beauty contestant fat and all hell breaks loose.

In November of '15, Hillary called people in this country illegal "illegal aliens".  So, it's fine for HER to say "illegal aliens", but not Trump?

What was up with Hillary and NYC mayor de Blasio making a joke about how lazy black people are?  At an Inner Circle dinner this last year, the two made reference to "colored people's time", which is a racist way of saying  black people are chronically tardy and lethargic.

In April of this last year, Hillary said she has had experience with wild men when they "get off the reservation".  There's no other way to look at that than implying Native Americans are savages and must be segregated from the rest of society.

On a black radio show, Hillary pandered to black voters by claiming to always carrying a bottle of hot sauce in her purse.  When Trump pandered to Hispanics by eating a taco bowl, that was racist, but it wasn't when Hillary made her statement?  How does this racism thing work? Anybody?

If I were a black person, I would find the following insulting...yet they keep supporting her!  Why is that?

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 1, 2016

Actually just to show you how callous the Clintons are, none of them wanted Socks and gave him to their secretary Betty Currie.

He lived to be almost 20.

Yeah, I know, was just making a joke.  I remember an incident when Socks was rubbing up against the leg of one of the press corps and he leaned down and patted the cat and started to pick it up but Bill screamed at him and said NO ONE was to pick up the cat!

There's a crude joke there, but I'll leave it to the imagination.

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Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 1, 2016

DANG!!!!!!  Add two more newspapers for Hillary!

As Boas and the rest of the board waited for that report, other historically conservative papers around the country—including the  Republic’s “sister paper,” the Cincinnati Enquirer, and the Dallas Morning News, which merely “recommends” candidates to its readers—came out with their own surprising editorials in favor of Clinton. “All of us were coming to the same conclusion,” Boas said. “There is something extraordinary about this Republican candidate that was making us all break from our history.”

There is something extraordinary about this Republican candidate

Yep, I'm beginning to think that too.

Extraordinary

adjective

1. very unusual or remarkable. "the extraordinary plumage of the male"
   
synonyms:remarkable, exceptional, amazing, astonishing, astounding, sensational, stunning, incredible, unbelievable, phenomenal

One would think a newspaperman so against Trump would use another word.  Maybe he slept through synonym class in Journalism school?  I bet his thesaurus is being used like a child seat so he can reach the keys on his computer.

No wonder Trump is so rich, he's living rent-free in your head...although it has to be a much, much tinier place than he's used to.  His suit watch pockets are larger than your pea-brain.  If you have been having headaches, I'm sure it's his massive ego straining to break free.   

The White House will allow him to stretch out, though although it probably won't have the square footage of any one of his mansions. 

I hope he paints TRUMP on Air Force One.

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Trump campaign coordinator resigns after blaming Obama for racism:

A volunteer coordinator for Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in Ohio resigned on Thursday afternoon after the Guardian published a video interview in which she said there was “no racism” until President Obama came into office and that black people who’ve struggled to succeed since the 1960s have no one to blame but themselves.

“If you’re black and you haven’t been successful in the last 50 years, it’s your own fault,” Kathy Miller, chair of the Republican nominee’s campaign in Mahoning County, Ohio, said in the interview. “You’ve had every opportunity, it was given to you.”

“You’ve had the same schools everybody else went to,” Miller continued. “You had benefits to go to college that white kids didn’t have. You had all the advantages and didn’t take advantage of it. It’s not our fault, certainly.”

She added: “I don’t think there was any racism until Obama got elected. We never had problems like this. … Now, with the people with the guns, and shooting up neighborhoods and not being responsible citizens, that’s a big change, and I think that’s the philosophy that Obama has perpetuated on America.”

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Trump's Florida spokesperson resigns as campaign responds to allegations of Cuba payoffs:

It seems almost impossible that, on a morning where the Republican nominee is urging America to watch a sex tape as part of an effort to shame a woman he hasn’t seen in over a decade, and dealing with an expanding investigation into his slush fund/"charity" where the list of violations seems to grow every day, that there could be another big wave about to break over the Trump campaign.

Readers of the Miami Herald are waking up to more news about Trump's activities in Cuba and it has Florida politics on a high boil.

Revelations that Donald Trump’s hotel and casino company secretly spent money trying to do business in Cuba in violation of the U.S. trade embargo roiled Miami politics Thursday, forcing top Cuban-American Republicans to express concern about Trump’s dealings while maintaining that the allegation isn’t reason enough to disavow the presidential nominee yet.

Some people may not be at the “disavow” stage, but others clearly are, as Trump’s Florida spokesperson Healy Baumgardner, resigned this week.

"It is clear the campaign is now going in a direction I am no longer comfortable with."

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/9/30/1576258/-Trump-s-Florida-spokesperson-resigns-as-campaign-responds-to-allegations-of-Cuba-payoffs

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Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 1, 2016

You really need to quit the C&P jobs, Teddy.  Unless you have permission to do so, it's a copyright violation to use all or a substantial part of an article.  Depending upon the website's TOU, you usually CAN quote snippets of the article, but you also need to link to the quoted material, if for nothing else than a courtesy to the reader as well as acknowledging the site from which it originated.   

Of course, doing it the right way involves ethics and considering who you support, it's no wonder you lack those.

Here's how you should do it:  Secret Service agents: Hillary is a nightmare to work with

“Good morning, ma’am,” a member of the uniformed Secret Service once greeted Hillary Clinton.

“F— off,” she replied.

That exchange is one among many that active and retired Secret Service agents shared with Ronald Kessler, author of “First Family Detail,” a compelling look at the intrepid personnel who shield America’s presidents and their families — and those whom they guard.

So, Trump used the "C" word, huh?  Coincidentally, that's what I call you when I read your posts, only I use an equally offensive modifier in front of it.

The "C" word - it's not just for women anymore!

You need to read this, Teddy.

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Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 1, 2016

In 2004, Hillary said  “I am adamantly against illegal immigrants.”  and voted for the appropriations bill to build a wall between the U.S. and Mexico.  Trump says the same thing, yet he's the racist?

During the '08 Democrat primaries, her campaign started the "birther" rumors, questioning Obama's U.S. citizenship.  They also circulated the now famous picture of Obama in full Muslim garb.  A LOT of people still think there's some controversy to all that and questions to be answered- myself included- but Trump takes all the heat?

 In May 2008, Clinton told USA Today that while Obama was leading the delegate race, she still had a broader political base. Unfortunately, she made that claim in explicitly racial terms, citing an Associated Press poll “that found how Senator Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”  I see...white Americans are the hard-working race, huh?  Why didn't Asians and Hispanics AND blacks take offense to that?

While not HER quote, her husband Bill said this of Obama "A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.”.  Hillary has never disavowed it, though.   Trump calls a beauty contestant fat and all hell breaks loose.

In November of '15, Hillary called people in this country illegal "illegal aliens".  So, it's fine for HER to say "illegal aliens", but not Trump?

What was up with Hillary and NYC mayor de Blasio making a joke about how lazy black people are?  At an Inner Circle dinner this last year, the two made reference to "colored people's time", which is a racist way of saying  black people are chronically tardy and lethargic.

In April of this last year, Hillary said she has had experience with wild men when they "get off the reservation".  There's no other way to look at that than implying Native Americans are savages and must be segregated from the rest of society.

On a black radio show, Hillary pandered to black voters by claiming to always carrying a bottle of hot sauce in her purse.  When Trump pandered to Hispanics by eating a taco bowl, that was racist, but it wasn't when Hillary made her statement?  How does this racism thing work? Anybody?

If I were a black person, I would find the following insulting...yet they keep supporting her!  Why is that?

And this.

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Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Sep 30, 2016

Agree on taxes/birth certificate..both hold outs for different reasons. Obama submitted something, whether it's a certificate of

HIS birth with every line being correct, who knows?...crooked politicians have done similar and worse. Trump's taxes are going

to be scrutinized and a fire starter, we already know that. Why were so many people after so long able to accept that Obama's

birth certificate was legitimate? I think because they finally breathed a sigh of relief. They accepted it and wanted the issue to

go away. Trump's tax issue will not go away, every line of it will be reported on, questioned, sized up and blown up. The powers

that be in the media want to get their hands on it and are reporting the American people want to know..well, ok but who wants

to know more? I say who cares. Some say the same. CNN and the likes say release, release, release. It isn't news, it's sheer

sensationalism. He's been examined he says for the past 15 years..if there was something seriously wrong there and against

the law, he would be in trouble for it. Unlike Hillary who is untouchable and not because she innocent but because she's protected,

Trump would be in jail or heavily fined and don't you think that news would leak? 

I don't want someone elected president who lied for years and got away with it. What's the worst thing you can say about Trump?

He's rough around the edges? He's a rich business man? He says what's on his mind or is the worst that he wants to make America

great again. I guess that's the biggest problem, he says he wants to do what you Hillary supporters are insulted with because

you were all lead along and fooled for so many years that everything was already great. Hillary has so many ties to the Middle East

and all kinds of countries because she has to, it's more than diplomacy...it has lots to do with the Clinton Foundation and donations

running in from countries who should be getting backlash instead of support. She and Bilbo have their hands tied because of the

money. Big, big money. They were bought and the price is you and all of us. Put Hillary in the White House and watch her as

she stabs you in the back and pads her already stuffed pockets with more donations for favors. Maybe contrails are real...something

is falling down on you Hillary people. You are convinced a professional liar is the best thing for this country. When disaster strikes she,

if elected, will be telling us all it's alright. She's used to your weakness and she's used to having her way. Her power is money, why don't

you let her know it won't work this time? Or are you just too comfortable with how things have been for so long that you settled for 

what you think can't change? Sad, very sad.

I agree.

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Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Sep 29, 2016

I'll bet you are a real joy to be around, good lord.  Spare us your cra$.

He gives ME joy.  He's low hanging fruit.

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Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 1, 2016

Why aren't you harping on Hilldog's emails? What is she hiding?

Unlike Trump's tax return, those emails involved national security.

Because he's a partisan hack.  He's pretty much to Hillary what Monica was to Bill...maybe not literally, but metaphorically.

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Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Sep 30, 2016

You are why I cannot read this forum at work. My coworkers wondered what  was so funny. Lol nuh uh lol

I meant to thank you for that.

I'm no Ridge, but I try.

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You have the right to vote, but the responsibility to learn about the candidates. 

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But, SOME young folks "get it".

 

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Wow Mikes on a roll!  LOL!  We have two more debates.  Get rid of the stinking liberal (one sided) moderators!  I think Chris Wallace will be the mod for one of them.  He will be fair.  Good by Hillary.

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Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 1, 2016

Wow Mikes on a roll!  LOL!  We have two more debates.  Get rid of the stinking liberal (one sided) moderators!  I think Chris Wallace will be the mod for one of them.  He will be fair.  Good by Hillary.

   Chris Wallace is doing the last debate...

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The Clintons are no strangers to media attention, and certainly no strangers to scandal.

During his tenure as President, Bill implicated himself, and his wife, in several controversial ‘affairs’. However, with the spotlight now on Hillary, the former First Lady’s own track record of scandalous dealings, both past and present, have been coming to light. Does Hillary have a knack for being in the wrong place at the wrong time; or does she know more than she lets on? Do these scandals make Hillary fit for the role of Commander in Chief? Check out her most notorious scandals, and decide for yourself…

16 Most Notorious Hillary Clinton Scandals

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Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 1, 2016

   Chris Wallace is doing the last debate...

I hope Trump acts like Trump in that one.

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Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 1, 2016

Wow Mikes on a roll!  LOL!  We have two more debates.  Get rid of the stinking liberal (one sided) moderators!  I think Chris Wallace will be the mod for one of them.  He will be fair.  Good by Hillary.

I just figured if he could copy and paste stuff in, then so could I.  He quotes the Daily Kos again, I'm gonna rebut with Rush Limbaugh.  Only fair, huh?   At least I got him to put in a link, so maybe something can get through that thick skull.

I basically just wanted to push his crapola off the page.

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Rush is the man!

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Liberal women having second thoughts about Hillary;  it's from the first of the year, but maybe Trump will bring it up during the next debate, Chelsea or no Chelsea.

’90s Scandals Threaten to Erode Hillary Clinton’s Strength With Women

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I still find it hard to believe that women would vote for the President of the United States just because that person is a woman.  I wouldn't vote for a man just because that person is a man.  I would vote for the person, that I feel, would be best for the country.

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Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 1, 2016

Still want Hillary?

Is America Ready For Hillary Clinton's 'Shariah Advisor' In The White House?

http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/is-america-ready-for-hillary-clintons-shariah-advisor-in-the-white-house/

Some have expressed concern that Bill Clinton might be back in the White House, this time as the first gentleman.

But as worried as they might be, at least Bill isn't a supporter of Shariah law. We wonder if we can say the same thing about the person who will be one of Hillary's chief, if not top, advisor.

Huma Abedin has been called Hillary's "shadow" by Politico. Hillary has said if she had a second daughter, it would be Abedin. She has been with the Democratic presidential candidate since 1996, when Hillary was first lady.

Abedin has followed Clinton through her years as a U.S. senator from New York and was by her side when Hillary was wrecking America's foreign relations and making a mess in the Middle East as secretary of state. While deputy chief of staff to Clinton at State, Abedin also worked for the Clinton Foundation and Teneo, a consulting firm that does business with international business titans.

Today, Abedin is ranked third in the Clinton presidential campaign hierarchy. If Hillary is elected, Abedin will surely have an office in the West Wing where she will use her formidable influence on Clinton to shape administration policy.

Just as Abedin has trailed Clinton for two decades, a serious question has trailed Abedin: Is she sympathetic to radical Islamists and a proponent of Shariah law in the U.S.? This question isn't asked because she's a practicing Muslim and speaks fluent Arabic. It's due to her family ties.

Four years ago, five congressman sent a letter to the State Department inspector general, charging that Abedin's father, mother and brother were associated with the Muslim Brotherhood, which is considered a terrorist organization by several nations, though not the U.S. The letter cited "a personal intervention by Secretary Clinton that allowed a prominent Muslim Brotherhood leader, Tariq Ramadan, to enter the United States — overturning a policy of the previous administration that precluded him from doing so."

A former federal prosecutor also noticed that U.S. policy "radically shifted in the Brotherhood's favor" while Abedin was in the State Department.

For their efforts, the five U.S. lawmakers were treated as cranks by the Democrats and media. But were they on to something? That's unknown. The story essentially died. The legacy media couldn't be expected to dig into it because it might cast one of their own — a Democrat — in a poor light.

We do know some things, though, and one of them is that Abedin's late father, Syed Abedin, was a firm defender of Shariah law. A video from a 1971 interview that has recently surfaced shows Syed, a Muslim scholar, discussing Islam's "hostile" response to the West's involvement in the Middle East. He seems to also argue that Shariah law must be enforced by national governments in Muslim countries.

Huma's mother, Saleha Abedin, also has an interesting history. She was editor-in-chief of the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs, a Shariah law periodical, from 1995 to 2008. Paul Sperry, a former IBD bureau chief, reported last month in the New York Post that Huma worked "for her mother's journal through 2008. She is listed as 'assistant editor' on the masthead of the 2002 issue in which her mother suggested the U.S. was doomed to be attacked on 9/11 because of 'sanctions' it leveled against Iraq and other 'injustices' allegedly heaped on the Muslim world."

Huma's brother, Hassan, is also an editor at the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs.

Huma's mother's sketchy ties don't end on those pages. Kenneth R. Timmerman, a former Republican congressional candidate and current Donald Trump supporter, wrote last month inThe Hill that Saleha "sits on the Presidency Staff Council of the International Islamic Council for Da'wa and Relief, a group that is chaired by the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi."

Huma's father had his own Muslim Brotherhood connection, says former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy. And it wasn't tenuous.

"There is persuasive evidence," he wrote in 2012 in PJ Media, "that her father was a member of the Brotherhood."

One can imagine the shape of the conversations around the Abedin dinner table. Huma must be steeped in the twisted ideas that drive Islam's hostility toward the West. Could it plausibly be any other way?

Of course the mainstream media don't care much. They see it as their job to get Clinton elected, no matter who she has hitched herself to.

Imagine, though, the media response if it turned out that the mother of one of Trump's high-ranking advisors had been a member of a group of harmless old ladies who met now and then to honor the Confederate dead and tend to their graves. There would be an inquisition. That person would be drummed out of her position and have to go into hiding. The issue would become a truncheon used to club Trump whenever the campaign-media complex needed it.

But anyone associated with Hillary Clinton is an angel who should never be held up to scrutiny, no matter what their family ties are.

OMG!  And she could be chief of staff under 'illary!?

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I would not look good in a burka.

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Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 1, 2016

I still find it hard to believe that women would vote for the President of the United States just because that person is a woman.  I wouldn't vote for a man just because that person is a man.  I would vote for the person, that I feel, would be best for the country.

If Hillary had left him when she first realized he was a cheater (no tellin' when that was, probably years and years before he became President) or even during the Lewinsky scandal, then I would have had some respect for her.  I probably wouldn't have ever voted for her, but I would have admired her courage.  No, she was complicit in the cover-ups and ruthlessly attacked the women who accused her husband of improper conduct, knowing full well he was guilty as charged.  She was so hungry for power that she decided riding on Bill's coattails was the only way to achieve her goals.

You're right, but if you had said "I'm voting for McCain because he's a white man." then you'd have been a racist, but it was perfectly fine to state the opposite.  The Democrats made fun of Romney's "magic underwear" and how he belonged to a cult, but to wonder if Obama is a Muslim is also racist, not to mention how he and his family sat through many Sundays of Rev. Wright's racist sermons and that was OK with them that he did.

The Democrats like to point out that Republicans are against abortion, but do nothing for the child after he/she is born.  That's not true, but they keep saying it so much they believe it.  They want to preach man made climate change, but give Al Gore a pass on his mansion and humongous electric bills, think it's fine for Leo to jet around the world with a few of his eco-pals to attend climate conferences and even blame the Republicans for the EPA's massive spills or for Flint's water woes.   They want to take guns away from law-abiding citizens, yet don't want to get at the root of the cause, the nutjobs that perpetrate these shootings...because keeping an eye on people with mental issues is an invasion of their privacy.   They preach free speech, just as long as you don't say anything against them.  Their hypocrisy is staggering to behold and you'd think that even a few of them would realize it, but no....partisan hacks to the end, yellow dog Dems all.

I don't like the Republicans, but at least if one is caught with his/her hand in the cookie jar, they're drummed out of office and out of the party....the Dems insist on that, of course. (John McCain not withstanding, but he's always collaborated with them, so that was fine)  The Democrats, OTOH, not only re-elect their crooks, they lionize them.  - cough- Teddy Kennedy - cough- Marion Berry - cough- cough-cough-cough, just like Hillary's hacking.

I'll betcha a buck right now that if Hillary wins, she'll stack the court with hard core leftists and for double or nothing, I'll bet you that Obama would be one of them.  We would truly and completely screwed then.

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Hillary needs a shot of truth serum for the next debate...she can stand up there and and just spout

truth instead of trash. If you injected Trump with it, he'd still be saying the same thing.

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Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 1, 2016

I would not look good in a burka.

Oh, I bet your eyes are pretty.  That's all we would be able to see.  No driver's license for you, though, sister.  The 19th amendment, along with the rest, done away with the stroke of a pen....simply not compatible with Sharia law.

Show your ankle?  Where's the closest pile of rocks?  They'll stone you after they rape you, though.

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Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 1, 2016

Oh, I bet your eyes are pretty.  That's all we would be able to see.  No driver's license for you, though, sister.  The 19th amendment, along with the rest, done away with the stroke of a pen....simply not compatible with Sharia law.

Show your ankle?  Where's the closest pile of rocks?  They'll stone you after they rape you, though.

Sad, but exactly true. Did you see Hillary smiling on her visit to Saudi Arabia? Why? It wasn't for women's

rights, it was for financial gains. They gave her $10 to $25 Million in donations, of course she can overlook

the horrid ways they treat their women.

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Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 1, 2016

Hillary needs a shot of truth serum for the next debate...she can stand up there and and just spout

truth instead of trash. If you injected Trump with it, he'd still be saying the same thing.

I started to say they must have injected her with some sort of stimulant in order to get through the 90 min. debate but on second thought, they probably knew it would explode her heart. 

I can just see her becoming President and kicking the bucket after the ordeal of the inauguration, maybe even during the ball. They'd probably do a "Weekend at Bernie's" thing, prop her up and have her handler move her lips and flop her arms around.

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lol!

Who will prop her up? The real Bernie? LOL

Who will prop him  up? Confused

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Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 1, 2016

Oh, I bet your eyes are pretty.  That's all we would be able to see.  No driver's license for you, though, sister.  The 19th amendment, along with the rest, done away with the stroke of a pen....simply not compatible with Sharia law.

Show your ankle?  Where's the closest pile of rocks?  They'll stone you after they rape you, though.

Sad but so true. I love how Huma's mother supports that garbage but fails to realize that under Sharia law she would not be publishing anything or even leaving her home. I cannot figure out why Huma married Weiner unless it was for sympathy or a distraction to her true role in the US.

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Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 1, 2016

Sad but so true. I love how Huma's mother supports that garbage but fails to realize that under Sharia law she would not be publishing anything or even leaving her home. I cannot figure out why Huma married Weiner unless it was for sympathy or a distraction to her true role in the US.

Oh noo not Weiner. I forgot about him for all of today, until now. I was reminded of him and his brand of nasty

when I was reading about Hillary's other trail - her dead staff, friends and connections.

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Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 1, 2016

Yeah and the outline on her back too where it sure looked like a device was attached. Trump put his hand on her back

to welcome..well, not welcome but I guess he had to do something...her at the debate, I wonder if he felt anything.

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Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 1, 2016

Yeah and the outline on her back too where it sure looked like a device was attached. Trump put his hand on her back

to welcome..well, not welcome but I guess he had to do something...her at the debate, I wonder if he felt anything.

Maybe it was something to help her middle ear....you know, from the vertigo caused by the height of the stool she insisted on so she wouldn't look so short compared to Trump.  I hope he wears stilts the next debate...or Elton John-style high heel boots w/ lifts in them.

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Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 1, 2016

He gives ME joy.  He's low hanging fruit.

Exactly what my buddy RDGRNR would say about another moron poster around these parts.  Cheers  Carry on!

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Have you seen these commercials for HRC saying she has spent her life fighting for children????  Has she done one thing in this area?

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Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 2, 2016

Have you seen these commercials for HRC saying she has spent her life fighting for children????  Has she done one thing in this area?

Check out Coin Toss blog omg rotflmao, a Hillary video.

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE, THAT'S OUR HILLARY.

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trump does not pay any taxes for about 18 years!  Sorry school teachers, infrastructure, firemen, police officers, sorry to children of the USA!  Poor people do not pay taxes, add trump to the poor people list.  Don't worry about it, the middle class will pick up the taxes.

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Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

trump does not pay any taxes for about 18 years!  Sorry school teachers, infrastructure, firemen, police officers, sorry to children of the USA!  Poor people do not pay taxes, add trump to the poor people list.  Don't worry about it, the middle class will pick up the taxes.

Nuh uh Teddy. We all take advantage of the tax code. If you can tell me you do not claim any of the authorized deductions,  I would love to hear about it. Most big corporations pay little to no taxes because of the US tax code. If you do not like the tax code, lobby to change it. Have you ever read it? Each deduction YOU claimed, caused school teachers, firemen, etc. to lose money.

bigbear29

I pay federal and state taxes, do you pay federal and state taxes???

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Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 2, 2016

Nuh uh Teddy. We all take advantage of the tax code. If you can tell me you do not claim any of the authorized deductions,  I would love to hear about it. Most big corporations pay little to no taxes because of the US tax code. If you do not like the tax code, lobby to change it. Have you ever read it? Each deduction YOU claimed, caused school teachers, firemen, etc. to lose money.

You don't understand what poobear is saying.

Poobear doesn't claim any deductions on his taxes. He doesn't claim the interest he paid on his mortgage. He doesn't claim the student loan interest. He insists on paying more than he really has to pay. Then he can say Trump is crooked because Trump is smart enough to use tax laws to his advantage. Gee, I guess I'm crooked too, because I use all the tax laws to my advantage too.

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Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 2, 2016

You don't understand what poobear is saying.

Poobear doesn't claim any deductions on his taxes. He doesn't claim the interest he paid on his mortgage. He doesn't claim the student loan interest. He insists on paying more than he really has to pay. Then he can say Trump is crooked because Trump is smart enough to use tax laws to his advantage. Gee, I guess I'm crooked too, because I use all the tax laws to my advantage too.

 Lol Wow Mr. Poo poo bear is a saint. I wonder if he is Catholic so we can start the canonization process?

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Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

I pay federal and state taxes, do you pay federal and state taxes???

We all do. Focus on the question.  Did you claim any deductions?

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Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 2, 2016

Check out Coin Toss blog omg rotflmao, a Hillary video.

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE, THAT'S OUR HILLARY.

Omg omg. I am even more appalled by HRC.

bigbear29

And I still paid federal and state taxes!!!

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Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

trump does not pay any taxes for about 18 years!  Sorry school teachers, infrastructure, firemen, police officers, sorry to children of the USA!  Poor people do not pay taxes, add trump to the poor people list.  Don't worry about it, the middle class will pick up the taxes.

First of all, The Washington Post getting info from the New York times, claiming the have Trumps 1995 tax returns, so what, they created a lie saying that equals 18 years of not paying taxes.

Listen up low info voter and liar about being a tax payer.

Teachers, Police, and Fire fighters are paid from Property Tax, not from our Federal income Tax. SOMEHOW YOU DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT!

Glad you brought up the middle class, like I said go view Coins blog, you will clearly see Hillary vowing to raise taxes on the MIDDLE CLASS!

If you are paying taxes and not using standard deductions, that pretty much makes you dumber than a rock.

I don't think you have any idea on taxes, fraud!

bigbear29

How do you know it is a lie? 

NOTE TO ROMNEY: The Federal Government Does Fund Teachers, Firefighters, And Police

What about DEFENSE?

What about Social Security?

What about Education?

What about Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, and marketplace subsidies?

What about Interest on debt?

What about Benefits for federal retirees and veterans?

What about Transportation?

What about Science and medical research?

And more!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

And I still paid federal and state taxes!!!

What you got nothing?

Tell us more tax man, you've been duped by a left wing article cause you don't have a clue on how different tax structures work.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 2, 2016

Nuh uh Teddy. We all take advantage of the tax code. If you can tell me you do not claim any of the authorized deductions,  I would love to hear about it. Most big corporations pay little to no taxes because of the US tax code. If you do not like the tax code, lobby to change it. Have you ever read it? Each deduction YOU claimed, caused school teachers, firemen, etc. to lose money.

Nuh uh Teddy

LMBO  That sounds like a catchphrase from a TV show or a movie, like "Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis!" or "What's the frequency, Kenneth?"

Not long after I got married, I was working on drilling rigs, just as a floor hand at first, then I got a drilling job which paid over half again as much as I was making.  Since I always had the minimum amt. withheld (the govt. doesn't pay you interest on it, after all) I was going to owe a hefty chunk to the IRS.  They had a one-time income averaging then, so I got to take the last several years of what I had made and average it into the current year's earnings and saved a bunch. 

I don't remember the exact numbers, but when the PB was up there at $1.5 billion, I figured the taxes a single winner would pay and went and looked up how much the govt. spends a minute.  Even the millions and millions of taxes paid wouldn't have run the govt. but for a few minutes.   I never went to any TEA Party rallies, but I certainly agree with their basic aims, chiefly Taxed Enough Already.  If we could do away with most of the "alphabet agencies", eliminate just half of the waste and fraud in the social programs, cut out the graft in many military appropriations, we could rebuild every dilapidated bridge in America and fix the rest of our crumbling infrastructure in a decade, all the while putting Americans back to work AND reduce income taxes.  That's what that nearly $800 billion '09 stimulus package was supposed to cure, but this administration and Congress frittered it away.  The Dems point to a pitifully few projects that were successful because of it, but they only benefited a small percentage of the population...a bandaid on a gaping wound.

When will Democrat voters realize that their party which screws them over at every turn while promising them a better life is a two-headed (or two-faced) monster?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

How do you know it is a lie? 

NOTE TO ROMNEY: The Federal Government Does Fund Teachers, Firefighters, And Police

What about DEFENSE?

What about Social Security?

What about Education?

What about Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, and marketplace subsidies?

What about Interest on debt?

What about Benefits for federal retirees and veterans?

What about Transportation?

What about Science and medical research?

And more!

You just showed me and anyone with a brain how clueless you really are.

You think all these things come from Federal Taxes? rotflmao

Interest on debt comes from Federal Tax payers, lol lol

Social Security comes from Federal Taxes, lol, it's deducted from anyone who works pay each week.

If you had a pay stub you would clearly see that.

lol lol lol

I can't do this, you are so low informed I can even stop laughing at you.

bigbear29

YES! Look who's acting stupid!

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

YES! Look who's acting stupid!

I am glad you admitted it. But you can be reeducated poo poo bear.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

YES! Look who's acting stupid!

You as usual, many things do come from Federal Tax, Federal tax comes from many places.

Can you name one thing besides, payroll deduction where Federal tax comes from?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 2, 2016

You as usual, many things do come from Federal Tax, Federal tax comes from many places.

Can you name one thing besides, payroll deduction where Federal tax comes from?

Hint hint poo poo bear....try google.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

How do you know it is a lie? 

NOTE TO ROMNEY: The Federal Government Does Fund Teachers, Firefighters, And Police

What about DEFENSE?

What about Social Security?

What about Education?

What about Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, and marketplace subsidies?

What about Interest on debt?

What about Benefits for federal retirees and veterans?

What about Transportation?

What about Science and medical research?

And more!

If I had the time, I would break each statement down and explain. I don't.

Marketplace subsidies, tell what do you like best about that?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 2, 2016

Hint hint poo poo bear....try google.

Maybe he will see we are being taxed above and beyond, and that the greedy bloated Government has gone to far.

He loves taxes for some strange reason, I hate paying taxes, I would like to keep some of my hard earned money, and not be forced to support someone who doesn't even try.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 2, 2016

If I had the time, I would break each statement down and explain. I don't.

Marketplace subsidies, tell what do you like best about that?

Really.  I thought about breaking down each category and explaining it to him, but it's futile.   I'd rather watch football today than attempt to educate him.  You can buy idjits like him books and books and more books, but all he'd do would be chew the covers off 'em.

My original "nuh uh" was poking fun at his childish attempts to debate.  He's not the deepest thinker, for sure and his links are constant proof of his confirmation bias.  Notice he'll never link to any objective website, but only from far-left ones.  I know it's not good to impeach the source, but for cryin' out loud, The Daily Kos?  They make Alex Jones look reasonable.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 2, 2016

Maybe he will see we are being taxed above and beyond, and that the greedy bloated Government has gone to far.

He loves taxes for some strange reason, I hate paying taxes, I would like to keep some of my hard earned money, and not be forced to support someone who doesn't even try.

Maybe he lives in the woods. Bears pay no taxes. They give him Obama tp and he is happy. Lol

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 2, 2016

Maybe he lives in the woods. Bears pay no taxes. They give him Obama tp and he is happy. Lol

Maybe he's the Unibomber's son!

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 2, 2016

Maybe he's the Unibomber's son!

Omg lol lol Ted jr!!!!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 2, 2016

Really.  I thought about breaking down each category and explaining it to him, but it's futile.   I'd rather watch football today than attempt to educate him.  You can buy idjits like him books and books and more books, but all he'd do would be chew the covers off 'em.

My original "nuh uh" was poking fun at his childish attempts to debate.  He's not the deepest thinker, for sure and his links are constant proof of his confirmation bias.  Notice he'll never link to any objective website, but only from far-left ones.  I know it's not good to impeach the source, but for cryin' out loud, The Daily Kos?  They make Alex Jones look reasonable.

My brain is in shut down mode today. If he had any clue on how badly we are being gouged he would be angry.

If he understood that creating jobs creates more tax payers

8 years of Obama, infrastructure still a mess, education, we are 27th in the world, Medical costs through the roof.

Not safer, people running willy nilly across our borders bringing, drugs, guns and diseases, depleting all those precious tax dollars for Police, fire, etc.

Under Hillary it will be worse.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

He probably has a straggly beard and hair and a closet full of nothin' but hoodies.

What gets me about Teddy Bear's last statement was it was not only from ThinkProgress, but also from something Romney said over 4 yrs. ago!  Talk about livin' in the past!  I guess he wasn't having any luck slamming Trump, he had to travel back in time to attack the last Republican, albeit liberal, candidate for President.

Next up: "Bush lied, people died!" and then "Halliburton! HALLIBURTON!!!"

Teddy Bear / Ted Jr.  A coincidence?  I think we're on to something.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

trump does not pay any taxes for about 18 years!  Sorry school teachers, infrastructure, firemen, police officers, sorry to children of the USA!  Poor people do not pay taxes, add trump to the poor people list.  Don't worry about it, the middle class will pick up the taxes.

He's also been audited for at least 15 years. That means whatever he's doing, it's legal per current tax code.  Don't like it? Reform the tax code. 

Trump's tax plan eliminates some deductions and caps itemized deductions.

bigbear29

How about income stupid!

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

How about income stupid!

Time for your nap poo poo bear.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

How about income stupid!

Income is not stupid, it pays for the things you need and want. We all need income.

bigbear29

Trump, release your taxes!

bigbear29

You are right, we need more jobs that will create more tax payers.  That way trump does not have to pay taxes ever again.  Good thought!

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Run out of cut'n'paste material again?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

You are right, we need more jobs that will create more tax payers.  That way trump does not have to pay taxes ever again.  Good thought!

Again,

what about Hilldog's emails? Are Trump's taxes more important than Benghazi and all those (30,000!!!) emails that probably endangered our national security? Trump's taxes didn't cause anyone to die.

You keep harping on Trump's taxes, I'll keep harping on Hilldog's Benghazi screwup and her email lies.

bigbear29

Trump lost about a billion dollars!  What a great businessman.  Wow!

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

Trump lost about a billion dollars!  What a great businessman.  Wow!

Did that cause people to die, like Hilldog did those poor people in Benghazi?

Did that cause a national security crisis like Hilldog's emails?

Why aren't you concerned about the important things, like Benghazi and Hilldog's email lies?

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

Trump lost about a billion dollars!  What a great businessman.  Wow!

Not as "good" of one as Hillary, apparently.  By "good", I mean "good" at shady deals and bribery.

I am re-publishing more than I should, but I am only quoting the most pertinent parts which are necessary to tell the entire story. The second asterisk* is ending a gap I left out from the original article, but explains why the deal happened.

From the Fiscal Times

Under the guidance of an attorney representing Tyson Foods, Hillary Clinton made a $98,540 profit from a $1,000 initial investment in less than one year trading commodity futures. While $98,540 may not seem like much money relative to the Clinton family’s wealth today, it exceeded Bill and Hillary’s combined annual income at the time.

When this story was revealed in the spring of 1994, Hillary Clinton’s press secretary suggested that the enormous profit was the result of the First Lady’s own research — but the Tyson*-linked attorney, James Blair, admitted that he advised Clinton when to buy and sell the futures. Further, there was no evidence that Clinton had previously traded in commodity futures or knew much about the market.

Careful readers at the time also learned that Clinton’s initial trading also had a serious irregularity. Unlike stock investments, commodity futures are almost always purchased with high levels of margin, meaning that the investor is using a substantial proportion of money borrowed from the broker to control positions. Exchanges and regulators typically require investors to keep a minimum amount of cash in their futures accounts to avoid getting into a negative position if futures prices move in the wrong direction. In Hillary Clinton’s case, her $1,000 initial investment was well below the $12,000 deposit required by the Chicago Mercantile Exchange for the first trades she executed. So not only did Hillary make an extraordinary profit for a novice investor, she did so without following the rules applied to less well-connected traders.

*During Mr. Clinton's tenure in Arkansas, Tyson benefited from a variety of state actions, including $9 million in government loans, the placement of company executives on important state boards and favorable decisions on environmental issues.”

Tyson appears to have obtained these results for what looks like a bribe delivered though Hillary Clinton’s commodities account. To quote the company’s former chairman: politics is “a series of unsentimental transactions between those who need votes and those who have money.”

This perspective should provide cause for concern today, since Hillary Clinton made $2.9 million in speaking fees from large financial institutions between 2013 and 2015. That total includes $675,000 from the much reviled Goldman Sachs. One is left to wonder whether Goldman and the other financial industry behemoths stand to gain any transactional benefits for their money. (the bold was done by me, but it is an important point to consider)

While paid speech-making is not illegal, bribery is. Tyson might have simply made a campaign contribution to Bill Clinton back then, but that would have violated limits then in effect. Instead, Bill and Hillary pushed — and seemingly broke — ethical and legal limits to get the cash they needed.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

Trump lost about a billion dollars!  What a great businessman.  Wow!

The tax code allows businesses to offset losses and carry them forward to offset taxes. It is done all the time per the tax code. Sully is right. You know nothing about taxation.

bigbear29

No kidding genius, I know what trump did.  Go take a nap little girl.

bigbear29

Release your taxes, trump!

bigbear29

Trump criticizes people that don't pay their taxes.  But it is ok for trump to take advantage of a rich person's loop hole to not pay taxes.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

Trump criticizes people that don't pay their taxes.  But it is ok for trump to take advantage of a rich person's loop hole to not pay taxes.

Trump has been audited. He's legal.

Hilldog lies about Benghazi and her emails.

You still haven't addressed Hilldog's Benghazi and email lies.

Are you afraid?

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

Release your taxes, trump!

No need now, they were leaked.  A violation of his privacy, one more felony to add to the Democrat total.  Out of the line-up of current Democrat politicians, it's hard to keep track of the felons without a scorecard.

I want Hillary's medical records released or an examination by a team of independent doctors.  Her current doctor, Dr. Lisa Bardeck, the one who declared that she was in good health, will probably be the next Surgeon General if Clinton is elected POTUS, so I discount her statement.

We have a right to know if she's physically capable of the duties of the office.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Calling women "little girls."  What a surprise. Another sexist bigot for HRC.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Sep 30, 2016

Stack

I had a uncle that was shot down 3 times in WWII and the last time he was captured by the SS and spent

the rest of the war in a SS prison camp.  Near the end the SS forced marched them from camp to camp until

one day he woke up and they had all fled during the night.  He never considered himself a Hero as he made

it out alive.   I guess there are different levels of heroism.

RL

Anyone that served in war is a hero period. You obviously never served and ought to be ashamed for saying anything different.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

Trump criticizes people that don't pay their taxes.  But it is ok for trump to take advantage of a rich person's loop hole to not pay taxes.

Who has he criticized? You put it out there, back it up.

Trump thinks people who take advantage of tax laws are smart.

bigbear29

That was not enough, more of his taxes need to be released.

bigbear29

Donald Trump Lecture Americans For Not Paying Taxes:

This weekend the New York Times detonated a bombshell by reporting that Donald Trump, using a loophole that benefits wealthy dynastic families, declared nearly a billion dollar loss on his 1995 tax returns—a loss that possibly allowed him to avoid paying any federal taxes for 18 years. (The full impact of this loss is not publicly known because Trump has stubbornly refused to follow the traditional practice for presidential candidates releasing his tax returns.) The Times account included a <snip>ing quote from Trump's former accountant: "Here the guy was building incredible net worth and not paying tax on it." After the story broke, the Trump campaign released a statement blasting the newspaper, calling Hillary Clinton more crooked than Richard Nixon, and claiming Trump "has paid hundreds of millions of dollars in property taxes, sales and excise taxes, real estate taxes, city taxes, state taxes, employee taxes and federal taxes, along with very substantial charitable contributions."

Without his tax returns, there is no way to determine if the campaign's assertion about Trump's taxes and charitable contributions is true. But in the past, Trump has frequently decried other Americans for not paying taxes.

On July 18, 2011, Trump appeared on Fox News and was asked about President Barack Obama's comments that well-to-do Americans should make a sacrifice for the country by paying more in taxes. He replied:

Well, I don’t mind sacrificing for the country to be honest with you. But you know, you do have a problem because half of the people don't pay any tax. And when he's talking about that he's talking about people that aren't also working, that are not contributing to this society. And it's a problem. But we have 50 percent. It just hit the 50 percent mark. Fifty percent of the people are paying no tax.

This was a Republican talking point—and a misleading one. It was true that close to 50 percent of Americans did not pay federal income tax, but that was because they did not earn enough money to be hit by this tax. Many of these people were working for low wages, or were seniors or young people not earning wages, and they paid other taxes, including Social Security and property taxes. Yet here was Trump brandishing a favorite club of the GOP—makers vs. takers—to denigrate half of the nation.

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bigbear29

Trump's tax plan will benefit trump and the rich people.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

Trump's tax plan will benefit trump and the rich people.

Well, you didn't read his tax plan, to lower taxes on businesses so they can hire, to give tax incentives to keep them here in America, to reduce the regulations that are strangling small business so they can grow and hire, to lure back companies that have left , and to you this is a bad thing.

If all you care about is Trumps taxes, then you are one sorry selfish sob.

We have a country with 46 million on food stamps, lowest home ownership, lowest wages in years, inflation on goods and services that take every extra dollar, The feds been cooking the books for so long the two ends will eventually meet and we will have a depression on steroids.

Our national security is a high risk, so you think keeping the bad guys out is wrong, the current regime lets anyone run right in, none of that bothers you?

The continuous cyber attacks, wait until they figure out how to shut the grid down. Are you Prepared?

Doubt it, most of America won't have a clue what to do, or have enough provisions, all hell will break lose.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Sep 30, 2016

...but some of the people here actually believe their childish insults will convince people to change their votes

Not me.  I know there's no changing his mind.  Some might say it's a character fault, but in the case of someone like bear, I enjoy pointing out how incredibly ignorant they are and what's worse, how much of a partisan hack they happen to be.  It's akin to pulling wings off of flies, which would make me cruel (mea culpa!) but the analogy is reinforced when you consider what flies are attracted to.

Bear is a rookie at this and is making rookie mistakes.

"Rookie" is generous and far-too-kind to him.  "Numbnuts" would be more fitting.

...why isn't Trump up by 20 points?

Because as you well know, the country is pretty much divided in half.  I would turn that back around at you and ask if Trump is such a bad candidate, then why isn't he DOWN by 20 pts.?   There have only been a few in this thread defend Hillary and I don't know why that is.  It might be that any other supporters in here know they would have a hard time defending her.   I might be mistaken, but I don't recall ever defending Trump, but have been attacking Hillary...which as far as I can tell, only happens in message boards and forums such as this as well as in a few right-wing websites, but certainly not by the MSM.

Trump has his faults, some "Yuge" ones and has made some incredibly stupid statements.  He has no filter and while candor is usually refreshing, a politician needs to parse their words more carefully than he has.  He's obnoxiously brash and likes to play the bully.  I have problems with much of what he's said and how he's acted and some of the things he's done but I have the same problem with Hillary, only ten-fold.   It's as I said, this election, same as the last two, is the choice between the lesser of two evils.  Yes, even the lesser is still evil, but the greater evil is worse.   To me, Trump is like the guy arrested for drunkenly urinating in public, while Hillary is the person who drove the getaway car after a bank robbery.  The former is distasteful, but the latter is unforgivable.

I would vote Libertarian, but I think the weed has put too much tar in Johnson's brain and Stein?  Pffft, she's a joke.  So, it's either leave the box un-ticked or vote for Trump.  I was this >.< close to being a "No-Trumper" but again, I'm much more of an "Anybody But Hillary" person.  The only other viable "anybody" is the loudmouth.

"Because as you well know, the country is pretty much divided in half."

That's because our form of government has always encouraged diversity. That's one of the reasons only 1/3 of the Senate is elected every two years. They scrapped the Articles of Confederation in favor of our Constitution basically because of the weakness that of government. We're having social problems we haven't seen since the 60s, but other than appealing, there isn't much either candidate can do.

"I would turn that back around at you and ask if Trump is such a bad candidate, then why isn't he DOWN by 20 pts.?"

You could but that doesn't explain why Trump isn't up by 20 points.

"There have only been a few in this thread defend Hillary and I don't know why that is."

The few vocal Obama supporters in 2008 and 2012 were drowned out by the many McCain and Romney supporters. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand there are more vocal red LP members than blue LP members. And considering that Trump can't help putting his foot into his month, Clinton's chances are getting better by staying silent.

"I have problems with much of what he's said and how he's acted and some of the things he's done but I have the same problem with Hillary, only ten-fold."

That's a problem for the fence sitters who are wondering what he'll say next. Even the Clinton supporters don't care what Trump said about Miss Universe, but he just can't let it go.

"I would vote Libertarian, but I think the weed has put too much tar in Johnson's brain and Stein?"

At least the VP pick William Weld could name a present World leader, but today the Chicago Tribune endorsed the Johnson/Weld ticket.

"I'm much more of an "Anybody But Hillary" person.  The only other viable "anybody" is the loudmouth."

We both live in solid red states so our red or blue votes won't change a thing. Read a statistic that 93% of the voters have made up their minds so all the old negative Clinton stuff won't change a thing, but Trump's mouth could cost him votes and the election.

bigbear29

Yes, well said!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

No kidding genius, I know what trump did.  Go take a nap little girl.

Even the Trump supporters can't figure out why he is attacking a former Miss Universe  calling her "Miss Piggy" and "Miss Housekeeping". Makes one wonder why a Trump supporter would be offended when called "little girl".

bigbear29

I think they believe no matter what trump does or say it is part of bucking the establishment.  I wish Bernie was still in the game.

noise-gate

l * think the Trump supporters are yearning for a Reagan-like leader, you know the talk tough kind. A moment of nostalgia from the movies..

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rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 2, 2016

l * think the Trump supporters are yearning for a Reagan-like leader, you know the talk tough kind. A moment of nostalgia from the movies..

Image result for make him an offer he can't refuse gif

When Reagan was president, I didn't appreciate what he was about. Was he perfect? Of course not. Never has there been a perfect president. Never will be. But he was what this country needed.

We desperately need another Reagan.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 2, 2016

I think they believe no matter what trump does or say it is part of bucking the establishment.  I wish Bernie was still in the game.

I believe Hilldog is a lying, conniving b****. She let those guys in Benghazi die. She lied about all those emails. She and Bill have that crooked Foundation that they want you to believe is for good causes, when it's only good for their bank account.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 2, 2016

I believe Hilldog is a lying, conniving b****. She let those guys in Benghazi die. She lied about all those emails. She and Bill have that crooked Foundation that they want you to believe is for good causes, when it's only good for their bank account.

Totally agree rcbuckeye.  Not only did she let the men in Benghazi die, she lied to the parents of the men, saying she was going to get to the bottom of the problem, knowing full well it was HER own lack of action that caused their deaths.  When the families spoke out on what they were told, HITLERY called the families LIARS.  I cant think of a more lower act for ANY person in office.  What a despicable, lying COWARD.  She is lower than whale sh*& IMO.  God help us if she gets in office, no one will be safe.

FWIW I use a large type so it is easier or ME to see what I am posting, not yelling!

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 2, 2016

Totally agree rcbuckeye.  Not only did she let the men in Benghazi die, she lied to the parents of the men, saying she was going to get to the bottom of the problem, knowing full well it was HER own lack of action that caused their deaths.  When the families spoke out on what they were told, HITLERY called the families LIARS.  I cant think of a more lower act for ANY person in office.  What a despicable, lying COWARD.  She is lower than whale sh*& IMO.  God help us if she gets in office, no one will be safe.

FWIW I use a large type so it is easier or ME to see what I am posting, not yelling!

LOL.

I get the large font.

Getting old kinda sucks. But, still better than not getting old at all.

noise-gate

Whether we want to agree with this or not America is going to get the president it wants . The voters will get a chance to make the final decision in November and if it  turns out that your guy or gal loses- well tough. We will just have to put up with the vote of the people for the next 4 years. If those years turn out to be absolutely crap, then there is a good reason to vote that person out, if however those years are nothing but  peace & prosperity- well you know the answer to that too. As a citizen of this country, l wish nothing but the best for this country whether its led by a Man or a Woman- and that's a fact jack.

As always : an Opinion.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 2, 2016

Whether we want to agree with this or not America is going to get the president it wants . The voters will get a chance to make the final decision in November and if it  turns out that your guy or gal loses- well tough. We will just have to put up with the vote of the people for the next 4 years. If those years turn out to be absolutely crap, then there is a good reason to vote that person out, if however those years are nothing but  peace & prosperity- well you know the answer to that too. As a citizen of this country, l wish nothing but the best for this country whether its led by a Man or a Woman- and that's a fact jack.

As always : an Opinion.

This just in..

The wife said to me  " Don't forget the final say so from the electoral College Dear." She's right. 

dr65's avatardr65

I have to fix that link..

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 2, 2016

Whether we want to agree with this or not America is going to get the president it wants . The voters will get a chance to make the final decision in November and if it  turns out that your guy or gal loses- well tough. We will just have to put up with the vote of the people for the next 4 years. If those years turn out to be absolutely crap, then there is a good reason to vote that person out, if however those years are nothing but  peace & prosperity- well you know the answer to that too. As a citizen of this country, l wish nothing but the best for this country whether its led by a Man or a Woman- and that's a fact jack.

As always : an Opinion.

"Whether we want to agree with this or not America is going to get the president it wants . The voters will get a chance to make the final decision in November and if it  turns out that your guy or gal loses- well tough."

That's how it should be, but because some of the McCain and Romney are saying "I don't blame Obummer. I blame the idiots that voted for him because we all knew what he's about. Now we have idiots that want to vote for the SAME THING AGAIN!!!???", the won't accept what the American electorate says and will go back into another four years of denial.

Saw part of the 1984 VP debate between H W Bush and Geraldine Ferraro and it's obvious why he is not supporting Trump.

noise-gate

l am of the mind Stack that if you allowed to vote, then vote for what you think is in your best self interest, not the next person's but Yours. I think it shameful to say that millions of people were /are " idiots" in voicing their opinion to elect so and so to be President of these United States. People chose Reagan, not because of his age, but because he meant what he said- he had a pair.

In the past l have read where a person was asked " why are you voting for this person? and the response was " this is someone l can see myself having a Cheers with.....really?  We not talking about choosing a Jury in a man slaughter case or worse where " idiots" have known to make bad decisions... a few come to mind.  l am willing to live with either person being the President of the US, just as long as they make decisions based on the good for the country. l just want the hate to stop for either candidate, as someone earlier said, there is no perfect candidate, yet from reading some of the remarks one would think that candidate will soon appear.

Stack47

Saw and heard Christie and Giuliani calling Trump a true "genius" for not paying federal taxes for almost 20 years ignoring the fact the "genius" had to lose almost $1 billion to get that tax break.

Maybe that's why only 34% of the educated voters prefer Trump and why he said "We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated

kreative1's avatarkreative1

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 3, 2016

Saw and heard Christie and Giuliani calling Trump a true "genius" for not paying federal taxes for almost 20 years ignoring the fact the "genius" had to lose almost $1 billion to get that tax break.

Maybe that's why only 34% of the educated voters prefer Trump and why he said "We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated

I agree, I used a "smart accountant" when doing my taxes for my small business to make sure I used all the deductions available and still had to pay taxes on a profit. Guess I or my accountant wasn't a genius....is there a class for that because I know there isn't one for common sense.

bigbear29

Media Shouldn’t Fall For Trump’s Spin That He Can Fix Tax Laws

Trump’s Damage Control After NY Times Tax Bombshell At Odds With His Own Tax Plan That Favors His Own Businesses

Following The New York Times’ report that Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump may have been able to avoid federal income taxes for 18 years after declaring a $916 million loss in 1995 as his businesses collapsed, some pundits are adopting the Trump campaign’s spin that the story proves that Trump “knows the tax code far better than anyone … and he is the only one that knows how to fix it.” In fact, Trump’s tax plan “doesn’t just preserve those breaks, it piles on new ones for real estate developers like Mr. Trump himself,” according to The Washington Post. The proposal would deliver a massive tax cut to Trump’s own businesses while providing a multi-trillion dollar tax cut to the wealthiest Americans. 

 

Let's vote for the person that worked on trump's tax forms.

 

Trump's tax plan will benefit the already wealthy, a plus 15%.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 3, 2016

Saw and heard Christie and Giuliani calling Trump a true "genius" for not paying federal taxes for almost 20 years ignoring the fact the "genius" had to lose almost $1 billion to get that tax break.

Maybe that's why only 34% of the educated voters prefer Trump and why he said "We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated

Hey goober... You're the "poorly educated one".  Trump's story is really incredible.  He built an empire, in the recession he (as did many) lost money; in fact, he was a billion dollars in debt and came out of it to where he is today (A ten billion dollar business).  I'd say he is a brilliant businessman.  What are Hillary's accomplishments? 

As for not paying federal taxes... You don't like it?  Change the tax code.  Everything he did was legal.  BTY, who in their right mind would pay more to the IRS than they have to?  Do you?  Not even Bernie Sanders does.  And that's a fact Jack!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 3, 2016

Media Shouldn’t Fall For Trump’s Spin That He Can Fix Tax Laws

Trump’s Damage Control After NY Times Tax Bombshell At Odds With His Own Tax Plan That Favors His Own Businesses

Following The New York Times’ report that Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump may have been able to avoid federal income taxes for 18 years after declaring a $916 million loss in 1995 as his businesses collapsed, some pundits are adopting the Trump campaign’s spin that the story proves that Trump “knows the tax code far better than anyone … and he is the only one that knows how to fix it.” In fact, Trump’s tax plan “doesn’t just preserve those breaks, it piles on new ones for real estate developers like Mr. Trump himself,” according to The Washington Post. The proposal would deliver a massive tax cut to Trump’s own businesses while providing a multi-trillion dollar tax cut to the wealthiest Americans. 

 

Let's vote for the person that worked on trump's tax forms.

 

Trump's tax plan will benefit the already wealthy, a plus 15%.

You don't pay taxes so why should you care?

bigbear29

Hey idiot, why would I not pay taxes?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Because you don't have a job.

bigbear29

Real funny!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Everyone here knows you're on the public dole.  Just admit it, you'll feel better about yourself.  The truth will set you free.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Maybe someone here can help you find employment?  Just ask.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Do you have any schooling past the 8th grade?  Do you have any special skills?  Can you speak English?

bigbear29

NY AG orders Trump Foundation to cease fundraising:

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman ordered Donald Trump's charity to immediately halt fundraising in the state, following reports that it had not submitted to routine audits mandated by the state, the office announced Monday.

Schneiderman sent notice Friday to the Trump Foundation, alerting that it broke state law when it raised more than $25,000 from outside donors without filing properly with the state. New York requires charities to conduct annual audits to solicit donations.
Trump has collected close to $4.4 million for his charity since 2009. The last time he donated to his own charity was in 2008. World Wide Wrestling Entertainment, NBC Universal and a celebrity signature collector have been his biggest donors over the past year.
The Washington Post first reported last week that Trump likely broke state law by not getting the rights to solicit donors. Schneiderman, a Democrat who is supporting Hillary Clinton, sent the cease-and-desist letter a day later.
LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Hillary Clinton's actions as SOS resulted in the murders of four Americans, including one Ambassador in Benghazi.  Nothing you can cut and past about Trump can deflect that.  She should be in prison and would be if obama wasn't President.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

bigbear needs a job.  Anyone out there need their car washed?

noise-gate

Heard that Hillary is also responsible for the Zika Virus showing up on American soil due to her lengthy travels visiting foreign countries. The end result is her depositing that thing in Florida.  Oh the horror. 

dr65's avatardr65

You know where most charitable donations went from the Clinton Foundation in 2015....right back to the Clinton Family

Foundation. They control both, so what does that tell you? The other 40 or so thousand went to Desert Classic Charities

who then in turn gave the Clinton Foundation $700 thousand the same year. You scratch my back..........

Doesn't this sound fishy to anyone? It should. It should also raise more than a few eyebrows at the amount of donations

it has accepted from Saudia Arabia...$10 to $25 million and many of these big time contributors of this region have gotten

special favors from the Clinton State Department. So, they want to come down on Trump for far less than they have been

doing for years? His taxes and write off, again, I say so what. What he did was perfectly legal. You people bashing him

for what he's done in 1995 if in the same exact situation wouldn't hesitate to use the tax code to your full advantage.

Let's dive a bit deeper into what the Clinton's actually did with their foundation...accepted big money from countries

who treat their women like dirt and much worse in return for special favor. Turned money from one organization to

the other and gave special interests donations which were given back ten fold and more. Hillary Clinton is on the

board of directors and that is special interest in itself. Do you think they sit back and laugh at how helpful they are

to others? No they sit back and count the money. Chelsea's on the payroll. The Clinton Foundation came under fire

for taking millions in donations for Haiti, remember the earthquake? The money was squandered on huts for people

that were uninhabitable and projects where Hillary's brother benefited. Haitians hate her and think a win for her is

more suffering for them.

A hurricane is hitting Haiti and the area again. Devastation will be on them again. Will the Clinton Foundation help?

I don't think they want her help, she was instrumental in bringing a leader to power there without a fair vote. Hillary

is dirty through and through. I don't want to be a dirty American because of a white, pompous, arrogant power hungry

piece of trash with her best interests in mind always. She spent her whole life getting to this point, she'll do anything

to achieve the presidency. Once there, forget the things she told you, they won't happen. She is looking out for number

one and that is Hillary Clinton. Don't fall for her lies because you'll be wondering months in what happened. She lies

so good she's got 1/2 the country believing what she says. She's a professional liar and a career politician who has no

one to answer to because when she does, she gets off even when most of us know she's as guilty as sin.

bigbear29

Donald Trump spent more than $250K from foundation to settle lawsuits.

And, How Donald Trump retooled his charity to spend other people’s money

bigbear29

Fox news and CNN keep mum about trump's play to pay story.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

If Trump is elected the Clinton's are going to jail.  That's what this whole election is about.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 3, 2016

You know where most charitable donations went from the Clinton Foundation in 2015....right back to the Clinton Family

Foundation. They control both, so what does that tell you? The other 40 or so thousand went to Desert Classic Charities

who then in turn gave the Clinton Foundation $700 thousand the same year. You scratch my back..........

Doesn't this sound fishy to anyone? It should. It should also raise more than a few eyebrows at the amount of donations

it has accepted from Saudia Arabia...$10 to $25 million and many of these big time contributors of this region have gotten

special favors from the Clinton State Department. So, they want to come down on Trump for far less than they have been

doing for years? His taxes and write off, again, I say so what. What he did was perfectly legal. You people bashing him

for what he's done in 1995 if in the same exact situation wouldn't hesitate to use the tax code to your full advantage.

Let's dive a bit deeper into what the Clinton's actually did with their foundation...accepted big money from countries

who treat their women like dirt and much worse in return for special favor. Turned money from one organization to

the other and gave special interests donations which were given back ten fold and more. Hillary Clinton is on the

board of directors and that is special interest in itself. Do you think they sit back and laugh at how helpful they are

to others? No they sit back and count the money. Chelsea's on the payroll. The Clinton Foundation came under fire

for taking millions in donations for Haiti, remember the earthquake? The money was squandered on huts for people

that were uninhabitable and projects where Hillary's brother benefited. Haitians hate her and think a win for her is

more suffering for them.

A hurricane is hitting Haiti and the area again. Devastation will be on them again. Will the Clinton Foundation help?

I don't think they want her help, she was instrumental in bringing a leader to power there without a fair vote. Hillary

is dirty through and through. I don't want to be a dirty American because of a white, pompous, arrogant power hungry

piece of trash with her best interests in mind always. She spent her whole life getting to this point, she'll do anything

to achieve the presidency. Once there, forget the things she told you, they won't happen. She is looking out for number

one and that is Hillary Clinton. Don't fall for her lies because you'll be wondering months in what happened. She lies

so good she's got 1/2 the country believing what she says. She's a professional liar and a career politician who has no

one to answer to because when she does, she gets off even when most of us know she's as guilty as sin.

If what you saying is true- the American people will be getting exactly what they want. Two extremely talented but deceitful people who know their way around rules and regulations- two individuals who are way ahead of the game. Nothing sticks on either individual- so as a voter, it comes down to this : Is it him or Her.

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Artist77's avatarArtist77

Any guesses on what wiki leaks will release about HRC tomorrow? My guess is some sort of a big direct tie to Saudi Arabia.

Get your guesses in now!

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 3, 2016

If Trump is elected the Clinton's are going to jail.  That's what this whole election is about.

And that is exactly what I'd like to see...justice. These big-wigs need to be held accountable instead of being protected.

I hope Trump will push hard to see that every wrong doing they're responsible for is revealed and are prosecuted for it.

Clinton's = bad, bad money

Trump = good money

Clinton's = elite members of a society of politically correct, morally corrupt, greed driven scum

Trump = real and backs it up with his mouth, he doesn't care who he insults and isn't bought and paid for either

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 3, 2016

Any guesses on what wiki leaks will release about HRC tomorrow? My guess is some sort of a big direct tie to Saudi Arabia.

Get your guesses in now!

That she is actually a robot that escaped from Westworld?

bigbear29

My guess is they might say something about Trump, sense he's on a weekly/daily roll.  Oh wait, something is coming in now.

Donald Trump Under Fire for Comments on Veterans With PTSD:

"Only people who are WEAK get PTSD", WOW!!  Trump please keep talking, you are doing good!

amber123

This would be the easiest bet to make of all time. Hillary will win, period. Green laugh

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 3, 2016

My guess is they might say something about Trump, sense he's on a weekly/daily roll.  Oh wait, something is coming in now.

Donald Trump Under Fire for Comments on Veterans With PTSD:

"Only people who are WEAK get PTSD", WOW!!  Trump please keep talking, you are doing good!

She doesn't even have to do any more campaigning, just let Trump do all the work for her. He's been doing a great job so far. Green laugh

Thanks for the update, been away from the news for about a day now considering Hurricane Matthew is closing in on Florida, so watching the weather channel. 

bigbear29

 Yes, keep talking trump.  Hang in there, hopefully it will pass quickly.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

My second guess for Wikileaks is that HRC is the *hore of Babylon. But most of us already knew that anyway.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 3, 2016

That she is actually a robot that escaped from Westworld?

I like that answer!

amber123

Trump wants to stop LEGAL Islamic Immigrants from entering into the U.S. until something can be figured out. 

Why stop there? Lots of killings in Detroit every year, let's ban all Africans, or anyone who has dark/darker skin.

New York has a lot of Oriental gangs killing each other and some innocent ones, let's ban ALL Orientals.

About 50,000 alcohol related deaths occur every year, let's ban ALL alcohol, even ones made here. Why not? Many more people are killed every year by alcohol than all the terrorist attacks and domestic bad behavior put together.

Should I continue with the list, or have sympathy on most of you by sparing you with the remaining 84 examples? Green laugh

lejardin's avatarlejardin

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz     Bed 

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 3, 2016

Trump wants to stop LEGAL Islamic Immigrants from entering into the U.S. until something can be figured out. 

Why stop there? Lots of killings in Detroit every year, let's ban all Africans, or anyone who has dark/darker skin.

New York has a lot of Oriental gangs killing each other and some innocent ones, let's ban ALL Orientals.

About 50,000 alcohol related deaths occur every year, let's ban ALL alcohol, even ones made here. Why not? Many more people are killed every year by alcohol than all the terrorist attacks and domestic bad behavior put together.

Should I continue with the list, or have sympathy on most of you by sparing you with the remaining 84 examples? Green laugh

By all means, please continue amber123.

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 3, 2016

By all means, please continue amber123.

You actually need more examples? Fine, just give me about 3 hours to stop laughing first. I promise, I will address it then. Green laugh

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 3, 2016

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz     Bed 

This is one of the symptoms of Conservatism. Green laugh

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 3, 2016

My guess is they might say something about Trump, sense he's on a weekly/daily roll.  Oh wait, something is coming in now.

Donald Trump Under Fire for Comments on Veterans With PTSD:

"Only people who are WEAK get PTSD", WOW!!  Trump please keep talking, you are doing good!

lyingbear

Your a ass-wipe,  Here is what Trumps said.

“When you talk about the mental health problems — when people come back from war and combat, and they see things

that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over, and you’re strong and you can handle it. But a lot of

people can’t handle it,”

I know dems are truthfully challenged but what a load of crap. I am a disabled veteran and I know exactly what he  meant. 

Some veterans can't handle living with the lasting effects of war,  even the strongest of the strong have problems trying to

deal with what they faced.   The Marine that asked the question was not offended either.       

RL 

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Lost bear...clear your mind...see the truth. The media has told so many people for so long how they should think. Recognize what some of us see. We are the canaries in the mine warning of danger.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

amber123 / bigbear maybe the same person

Micky-D and many other eateries are killing thousands with the fast food so you should add them

to the list.   Letting unvetted people come into the US from a region where they hate and want to

kill us all, no problem.  After all, what difference does it make?

RL

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 3, 2016

amber123 / bigbear maybe the same person

Micky-D and many other eateries are killing thousands with the fast food so you should add them

to the list.   Letting unvetted people come into the US from a region where they hate and want to

kill us all, no problem.  After all, what difference does it make?

RL

No, I'm not bigbear, and yes, we should add fast food to that list with an extra bonus fact like heart disease related health issues. Too much salt, sugar, list goes on..

amber123

Let's ban sugar. How much trouble does sugar impose on Humans? You really want a nasty list? I don't think so...Let's ban suicides, how many Soldiers kill themselves, not counting Civilians every year?

I'll spare you the wrath of sugar. Puke

http://www.olsonnd.com/what-kills-more-people-sugar-or-cigarettes/

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 3, 2016

lyingbear

Your a ass-wipe,  Here is what Trumps said.

“When you talk about the mental health problems — when people come back from war and combat, and they see things

that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over, and you’re strong and you can handle it. But a lot of

people can’t handle it,”

I know dems are truthfully challenged but what a load of crap. I am a disabled veteran and I know exactly what he  meant. 

Some veterans can't handle living with the lasting effects of war,  even the strongest of the strong have problems trying to

deal with what they faced.   The Marine that asked the question was not offended either.       

RL 

    Thank You RL-RANDOMLOGIC...   That is exactly what Trump said... it's a shame some people only hear what they want to hear... and twist things around to their liking..

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 3, 2016

Let's ban sugar. How much trouble does sugar impose on Humans? You really want a nasty list? I don't think so...Let's ban suicides, how many Soldiers kill themselves, not counting Civilians every year?

I'll spare you the wrath of sugar. Puke

http://www.olsonnd.com/what-kills-more-people-sugar-or-cigarettes/

    Sorry ... wrong topic please post in the right forum...

amber123

All joking aside, sugar is truly poison. The sugar crystals harden in the veins and capillaries causing slow blockage. I have a friend who's had five Stents due to smoking plaques and other factors like food.

I'm guilty of eating too much sugar so I can't talk..lol

I'm getting away with it by only eating cookies twice a week instead of 4 or more..lol It's working because after the first three days inhibiting yourself will feel like hell, but it's worth the wait.

I'm half way through now, and feeling the benefit about now.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 3, 2016

    Thank You RL-RANDOMLOGIC...   That is exactly what Trump said... it's a shame some people only hear what they want to hear... and twist things around to their liking..

Right! I'm sick of his remarks being read into and turned into something he didn't even say or twisted to mean

something he didn't mean. CNN is great for that...they need to go away. That's not news, why don't they call 

themselves what they really are? An agent for the devil known as Hillary.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 3, 2016

This is one of the symptoms of Conservatism. Green laugh

Only in your twisted mind. No Pity!

Go back to talking about sugar you made more sense.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 3, 2016

You actually need more examples? Fine, just give me about 3 hours to stop laughing first. I promise, I will address it then. Green laugh

You started it, I'd like to see you finish it. If you needed the next 3 hours to laugh about it, you were the only one laughing.

In fact, the only laughing matter here is your plain stupidity.

When you get off your Trump bashing hind end and get over there where the real terror takes place everyday and live it, 

experience it, have fear of it and cry for it and see the ongoing daily death and destruction terrorists cause and your buddy

is bleeding to death in your arms and rpg's, roadside bombs and bullets are blowing your friends to bits instead of talking

about what lie CNN and the likes are spinning as truth for you lemmings to follow like robots, then I might take you seriously.

But until then, you are the only one besides Hillary and her team of rats that thinks this is funny to come down on Trump for

wanting to protect this country. You're just another comfortable nobody in my book. Content in business as usual until it affects

you directly of course. Then you will have more than enough to say about it but let me tell you what, by then it's too late and 

no one will care because you will be in the minority that allowed themselves to be mislead, used and abused. And you will be

to blame for that because you failed to see what the witch had in store for you. 

So the next time you decide to troll a forum because you didn't like the response you got on another, think before you type.

Your senseless analogies concerning Trumps desire to keep out all Islamic immigrants until a safe screening process is in place

shows you are a senseless, uneducated, patsy who jumps on the bandwagon just because you don't have gusto to stand on your

own two feet. Going with the 'in' crowd is easy, bash Trump without a reason, take what he says and cut it up, twist it and define

it according to what you think you heard instead of actually hearing what the man is saying.

I do not see the humor at all in your callous representations of equivalent measures regarding his implementation of a safeguard

for our country. Such a measure might prevent, by not allowing them instant passage, the savage threat to our country by an

individual or a few individuals who have questionable backgrounds or direct, obvious ties to beliefs that tell them to hate all of us

and rid the earth of us. The kind of thinking you're exhibiting by taking on Hillary's view that it's racist to even think of not allowing

immigrants from terrorist hot spots into our country because otherwise we are 'phobic' gets people killed. 

We have a right in our own country to reject and refuse anyone entry on the grounds of suspicion. Think a 9/11 will never happen

again? Keep relaxing, keep your guard down, keep being comfortable. Trump's plan is a good one, it's not racist, it's self preserving

in more ways than one. His screening process and desire to refuse entry and settlement into this great country might just save you're

sorry azz one day.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 3, 2016

This would be the easiest bet to make of all time. Hillary will win, period. Green laugh

If there is any justice left in the world, Hillary will win a prison sentence, period.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Lets have a little humor here.  Anyone see the SNL skit about the Trump / Clinton debate?  Its very funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nQGBZQrtT0

bigbear29

"amber123 / bigbear maybe the same person",  NO!

 

But we all know that rl-randomlogic / idiot is the same person!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 4, 2016

"amber123 / bigbear maybe the same person",  NO!

 

But we all know that rl-randomlogic / idiot is the same person!

Get a job loser.

bigbear29

rl's post: 

lyingbear

Your a ass-wipe,  Here is what Trumps said.

“When you talk about the mental health problems — when people come back from war and combat, and they see things

that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over, and you’re strong and you can handle it. But a lot of

people can’t handle it,”

I know dems are truthfully challenged but what a load of crap. I am a disabled veteran and I know exactly what he  meant. 

Some veterans can't handle living with the lasting effects of war,  even the strongest of the strong have problems trying to

deal with what they faced.   The Marine that asked the question was not offended either.       

Rl

KEYWORDS: and you’re strong and you can handle it

Twitter replys: I guess my buddy who I deployed with, who suffered from PTSD, and who took his own life wasn't as strong as a roomful of Trump's supporters.

another twitter reply:  Yeah, this part is not helpful. "Being strong" and/or "being able to handle it" is the wrong message on PTSD/suicide and perpetuates stigma.

bigbear29

Trump Implies Vets Suffering From PTSD 'Can't Handle' War

Donald Trump has come under fire for comments he made during a Q&A with retired veterans Tuesday morning.

Speaking with the Retired American Warriors PAC in Virginia, the Republican nominee suggested veterans suffering from PTSD are not "strong" and "can't handle" the stresses of war.

"When people come back from war and combat and they see things that, maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over, and you're strong and you can handle it, but a lot of people can't handle it," Trump said.

Trump later vowed to have a "very robust performance" when it came to dealing with veterans and mental health care.

Trump's comments received swift criticism from leaders of veterans organizations. Jon Soltz, an Iraq War Veteran and chairman of VoteVets.org, said Trump's statements perpetuate the stigma around mental health and PTSD in the military.

"The fact is, dealing with the mental wounds from war has nothing to do about someone's strength," Soltz said in a statement. "If Donald Trump took even three seconds trying to understand and respect our veterans, he'd understand that."

bigbear29

Trump May Have Lost Fox News As Damage Grows From Tax Return Leak:

 

Fox News is showing signs of potentially abandoning Trump as surrogate Chris Christie was grilled by Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 3, 2016

Hey goober... You're the "poorly educated one".  Trump's story is really incredible.  He built an empire, in the recession he (as did many) lost money; in fact, he was a billion dollars in debt and came out of it to where he is today (A ten billion dollar business).  I'd say he is a brilliant businessman.  What are Hillary's accomplishments? 

As for not paying federal taxes... You don't like it?  Change the tax code.  Everything he did was legal.  BTY, who in their right mind would pay more to the IRS than they have to?  Do you?  Not even Bernie Sanders does.  And that's a fact Jack!

"Trump's story is really incredible."

Trump is a con-man that convinced gullible people that he can do what no other President did. Actually I'm being kind by using "gullible" because you're simply uneducated and ignorant of how our government works; hint Congress. Do you think Trump is running for dictator?

"As for not paying federal taxes..."

You are truly ignorant. Trump lost $916 million; there was no taxable income.

"You don't like it? Change the tax code."

Unlike some of the LP members who criticise how jackpot winners spend their winnings, I could care less about Trump or anyone's failed business ventures that don't effect me. And why the majority won't vote for a moron with business decisions so bad it lost almost $1 billion in just one year.

"Everything he did was legal. "

The concept of "no taxable income" must really be confusing you. You're correct on one thing, there was no law in 1995 preventing Trump's casinos from legally losing almost $1 billion.

"BTY, who in their right mind would pay more to the IRS than they have to?"

Probably never occurred to you, but that's exactly what everyone that gets a tax refund is doing.

Even some of the top Republicans wonder why Trump hasn't released his tax returns, but the only question asked about his 1995 return is the extraordinary loses. Maybe you're the only one that doesn't know that people with zero income pay zero in taxes. Have any more useless information or childish insults to add?

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 4, 2016

Only in your twisted mind. No Pity!

Go back to talking about sugar you made more sense.

Voting for Trump makes you twisted...duh !

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 3, 2016

    Sorry ... wrong topic please post in the right forum...

Go back to your cave.

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 4, 2016

You started it, I'd like to see you finish it. If you needed the next 3 hours to laugh about it, you were the only one laughing.

In fact, the only laughing matter here is your plain stupidity.

When you get off your Trump bashing hind end and get over there where the real terror takes place everyday and live it, 

experience it, have fear of it and cry for it and see the ongoing daily death and destruction terrorists cause and your buddy

is bleeding to death in your arms and rpg's, roadside bombs and bullets are blowing your friends to bits instead of talking

about what lie CNN and the likes are spinning as truth for you lemmings to follow like robots, then I might take you seriously.

But until then, you are the only one besides Hillary and her team of rats that thinks this is funny to come down on Trump for

wanting to protect this country. You're just another comfortable nobody in my book. Content in business as usual until it affects

you directly of course. Then you will have more than enough to say about it but let me tell you what, by then it's too late and 

no one will care because you will be in the minority that allowed themselves to be mislead, used and abused. And you will be

to blame for that because you failed to see what the witch had in store for you. 

So the next time you decide to troll a forum because you didn't like the response you got on another, think before you type.

Your senseless analogies concerning Trumps desire to keep out all Islamic immigrants until a safe screening process is in place

shows you are a senseless, uneducated, patsy who jumps on the bandwagon just because you don't have gusto to stand on your

own two feet. Going with the 'in' crowd is easy, bash Trump without a reason, take what he says and cut it up, twist it and define

it according to what you think you heard instead of actually hearing what the man is saying.

I do not see the humor at all in your callous representations of equivalent measures regarding his implementation of a safeguard

for our country. Such a measure might prevent, by not allowing them instant passage, the savage threat to our country by an

individual or a few individuals who have questionable backgrounds or direct, obvious ties to beliefs that tell them to hate all of us

and rid the earth of us. The kind of thinking you're exhibiting by taking on Hillary's view that it's racist to even think of not allowing

immigrants from terrorist hot spots into our country because otherwise we are 'phobic' gets people killed. 

We have a right in our own country to reject and refuse anyone entry on the grounds of suspicion. Think a 9/11 will never happen

again? Keep relaxing, keep your guard down, keep being comfortable. Trump's plan is a good one, it's not racist, it's self preserving

in more ways than one. His screening process and desire to refuse entry and settlement into this great country might just save you're

sorry azz one day.

Make sure you don't overcook the fries at your station, the buzzer will be going off soon. What a dope you are, they saw you coming a mile away.

Maybe we should deport morons too, I'll pay for your one way ticket to Moron land.

BTW genius, next time you call me anything, remember to use paragraphs, but I doubt you know what they are, loser !

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 3, 2016

lyingbear

Your a ass-wipe,  Here is what Trumps said.

“When you talk about the mental health problems — when people come back from war and combat, and they see things

that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over, and you’re strong and you can handle it. But a lot of

people can’t handle it,”

I know dems are truthfully challenged but what a load of crap. I am a disabled veteran and I know exactly what he  meant. 

Some veterans can't handle living with the lasting effects of war,  even the strongest of the strong have problems trying to

deal with what they faced.   The Marine that asked the question was not offended either.       

RL 

"I am a disabled veteran and I know exactly what he  meant."

I was in combat and saw men huddled in bunkers uncontrollably weeping with fear during mortar and rocket attacks. Trump wasn't there and if you "know exactly what he meant", you weren't there either.

"Some veterans can't handle living with the lasting effects of war,  even the strongest of the strong have problems trying todeal with what they faced."

I've known a WWII Marine Vet for over 40 years and he got the "shakes" on Iwo Jima and still has them today. But because he wasn't there, Trump has no clue about the mental health issues of wounded warriors from 70 years ago and today.

"and you’re strong and you can handle it. But a lot of people can’t handle it, "

Only the son of a multi-millionaire that never served because he had flat feet would say all the soldiers that "can't handle it" are weaklings.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 4, 2016

Trump Implies Vets Suffering From PTSD 'Can't Handle' War

Donald Trump has come under fire for comments he made during a Q&A with retired veterans Tuesday morning.

Speaking with the Retired American Warriors PAC in Virginia, the Republican nominee suggested veterans suffering from PTSD are not "strong" and "can't handle" the stresses of war.

"When people come back from war and combat and they see things that, maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over, and you're strong and you can handle it, but a lot of people can't handle it," Trump said.

Trump later vowed to have a "very robust performance" when it came to dealing with veterans and mental health care.

Trump's comments received swift criticism from leaders of veterans organizations. Jon Soltz, an Iraq War Veteran and chairman of VoteVets.org, said Trump's statements perpetuate the stigma around mental health and PTSD in the military.

"The fact is, dealing with the mental wounds from war has nothing to do about someone's strength," Soltz said in a statement. "If Donald Trump took even three seconds trying to understand and respect our veterans, he'd understand that."

It's just another in a long line of places where Trump shouldn't go, but just can't help himself.

PTSD in the US military is nothing new, there are examples from the Revolutionary War. Saying those soldiers returning with it are weaklings is par for the course for Trump. He said John McCain and all POWs are not heroes: "He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured".

bigbear29

trump is a total idiot!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 4, 2016

"Trump's story is really incredible."

Trump is a con-man that convinced gullible people that he can do what no other President did. Actually I'm being kind by using "gullible" because you're simply uneducated and ignorant of how our government works; hint Congress. Do you think Trump is running for dictator?

"As for not paying federal taxes..."

You are truly ignorant. Trump lost $916 million; there was no taxable income.

"You don't like it? Change the tax code."

Unlike some of the LP members who criticise how jackpot winners spend their winnings, I could care less about Trump or anyone's failed business ventures that don't effect me. And why the majority won't vote for a moron with business decisions so bad it lost almost $1 billion in just one year.

"Everything he did was legal. "

The concept of "no taxable income" must really be confusing you. You're correct on one thing, there was no law in 1995 preventing Trump's casinos from legally losing almost $1 billion.

"BTY, who in their right mind would pay more to the IRS than they have to?"

Probably never occurred to you, but that's exactly what everyone that gets a tax refund is doing.

Even some of the top Republicans wonder why Trump hasn't released his tax returns, but the only question asked about his 1995 return is the extraordinary loses. Maybe you're the only one that doesn't know that people with zero income pay zero in taxes. Have any more useless information or childish insults to add?

You're really a confused person aren't you.  Amazing how you twist things around to suit your agenda.  Trump is a genius businessman.  Its the contract he made with the banks lending him money that prevented him from going out of business... If he went down, they went down. 

Of course he had no taxable income, a child could understand what I posted.  And I'm the ignorant one stack?  LOL

There was a recession in the 90's that caused many in the realestate business to go under.  It had nothing to do with his business decisions. 

I'm not the confused one here stack.  We getting a little senile in our old age stack?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 4, 2016

trump is a total idiot!

Time to get a job loser.  BTW The taxes I pay support your dead azz.  So be nice.

bigbear29

Post-debate, Clinton takes the lead:

 

  • Clinton tops Trump 47% to 42% among likely voters in a new poll
bigbear29

GOP distances itself from Trump -- again:

 

Donald Trump -- struggling to move past a week of one controversy after another -- is making clear that he's willing to go it alone in the final weeks of the campaign.

As the Republican nominee tries to recover from one of his toughest stretches, few prominent GOP leaders -- other than those who advise him or are on his payroll -- seem willing to launch a full-throated rescue effort.
So Trump sought to do the heavy lifting himself Monday, delivering a feisty speech here that attempted to reframe the campaign and extract him from the quagmire of the past week, which included a disappointing debate performance, a roiling controversy over whether he paid taxes, and ill-advised attacks on a Latina beauty queen -- a feud he couldn't seem to let go.
LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Breaking news... Clinton Foundation computer hacked by Guccifer 2.0.  One of the files are named "Pay for play".  Another indicates TARP money was sent to some democrats.  Should be interesting.  Daily Caller has the story.

bigbear29

Guccifer 2.0 Claims To Have Hacked Clinton Foundation

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/04/guccifer-2-0-claims-to-have-hacked-clinton-foundation/#ixzz4M9gAPxfq

The Clinton Foundation has not yet returned a request for comment on the hacking claim.

Check back for updates.


Update: A review of the newly released documents reveals no information about the Clinton Foundation. Instead, the documents appear to come mostly from the Democratic Party of Virginia. Other documents appear to come from the national Democratic party.

 

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/04/guccifer-2-0-claims-to-have-hacked-clinton-foundation/#ixzz4M9gRuKBK

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 4, 2016

Make sure you don't overcook the fries at your station, the buzzer will be going off soon. What a dope you are, they saw you coming a mile away.

Maybe we should deport morons too, I'll pay for your one way ticket to Moron land.

BTW genius, next time you call me anything, remember to use paragraphs, but I doubt you know what they are, loser !

Glad to see I got you going. Crazy Typical response, amber123, a comeback showing nothing of substance or conviction,

just some gab about some fries and a buzzer. If I were you, I'd stop while you are still able to salvage your image but

that's probably not even possible because you've run at the mouth before and said some real stupid things in your time.

Your low IQ level is on display, so who is the dope? Sounds and certainly looks like it's you. Obviously you've got a short

fuse, it shows and you are sad. You know that nothing I've stated warrants a one way ticket to moron land but you on the

other hand are already there, pot calling the kettle black, that is hilarious. And if anyone saw someone that was coming,

it was you because with your simple minded views, retorts, temper, lack of judgement, overall imbecilic posts, you are exactly

the type that someone is always waiting for...A mindless follower that doesn't hold much to heart, and by the way peon,

what's your beef with Trump? Is it just what they implanted in your head?..Is it easier to sit on your can and just absorb

what they tell you?...So you're not a thinker either. Just keep that big mouth open so they can keep funneling ideas down

your throat. You're the kind who will complain about anything if it bothers what you think is the in crowd because you are

a follower. Too bad you can't do it with class, Patsy. At least I have the presence of mind to know when I'm being taken

advantage of for someone else's gain.

This time or next time I call you anything I'll be sure to write it exactly how I feel like writing it, if you can't read it or have

difficulty focusing on what it meant, don't make the best thing you have to say about it, remember to use paragraphs...loser.

I won't expect much of anything intelligent or worthwhile coming from your mouth. Thanks for the opportunity to see just

what the other side looks like. Hillary will enjoy your support, you're easy to please and control.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 4, 2016

Go back to your cave.

    WOW!!!  aren't we fisty today...  what side of the bed did you get out of... or maybe you DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ... if you READ the title of this thread it say's and doesn't even have the word SUGAR in it... DUH!!!!

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 4, 2016

Glad to see I got you going. Crazy Typical response, amber123, a comeback showing nothing of substance or conviction,

just some gab about some fries and a buzzer. If I were you, I'd stop while you are still able to salvage your image but

that's probably not even possible because you've run at the mouth before and said some real stupid things in your time.

Your low IQ level is on display, so who is the dope? Sounds and certainly looks like it's you. Obviously you've got a short

fuse, it shows and you are sad. You know that nothing I've stated warrants a one way ticket to moron land but you on the

other hand are already there, pot calling the kettle black, that is hilarious. And if anyone saw someone that was coming,

it was you because with your simple minded views, retorts, temper, lack of judgement, overall imbecilic posts, you are exactly

the type that someone is always waiting for...A mindless follower that doesn't hold much to heart, and by the way peon,

what's your beef with Trump? Is it just what they implanted in your head?..Is it easier to sit on your can and just absorb

what they tell you?...So you're not a thinker either. Just keep that big mouth open so they can keep funneling ideas down

your throat. You're the kind who will complain about anything if it bothers what you think is the in crowd because you are

a follower. Too bad you can't do it with class, Patsy. At least I have the presence of mind to know when I'm being taken

advantage of for someone else's gain.

This time or next time I call you anything I'll be sure to write it exactly how I feel like writing it, if you can't read it or have

difficulty focusing on what it meant, don't make the best thing you have to say about it, remember to use paragraphs...loser.

I won't expect much of anything intelligent or worthwhile coming from your mouth. Thanks for the opportunity to see just

what the other side looks like. Hillary will enjoy your support, you're easy to please and control.

All I can say is to buy some extra Preparation H because when Hillary becomes President, your butthurt will show on LP and you'll need all the help with the sores on your ass.

Oh, buy some tissues for the whining to come.

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 4, 2016

    WOW!!!  aren't we fisty today...  what side of the bed did you get out of... or maybe you DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ... if you READ the title of this thread it say's and doesn't even have the word SUGAR in it... DUH!!!!

The title also doesn't have the word MORON in it either, but you're here, so what gives?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 4, 2016

All I can say is to buy some extra Preparation H because when Hillary becomes President, your butthurt will show on LP and you'll need all the help with the sores on your ass.

Oh, buy some tissues for the whining to come.

amber isn't it fun here on lp? You can lurk, you can be a jerk and you can show just how idiotic you are and you

can keep coming back and getting more.

You fell so far off the IQ scale right now, you are insignificant. Nice meeting you.

You're still showing your low level here..something made you mad....I'm happy to have pissed off a Clinton supporter

today.  LOL Oh and yesterday too!...LOL  LOL  Would you like to go 3/3? See you tomorrow... Thumbs Up 

Do yourself a favor, will you, go find somewhere else to be useful because along with being vulgar, you sure are being useless here.

That's what people with nothing of value are good at, being useless.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 4, 2016

The title also doesn't have the word MORON in it either, but you're here, so what gives?

Your right the title doesn't have MORON in it... cause YOUR the  MORON here... I'm only here to support TRUMP.... YEAH...BABY..TRUMP'S the MAN all the way.... AGAIN.... READ the TITLE OF THIS THREAD!!!  how hard is that for you to figure out....  OH!! wait a minute...   your the MORON HERE that can't READ!!!

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 4, 2016

amber isn't it fun here on lp? You can lurk, you can be a jerk and you can show just how idiotic you are and you

can keep coming back and getting more.

You fell so far off the IQ scale right now, you are insignificant. Nice meeting you.

You're still showing your low level here..something made you mad....I'm happy to have pissed off a Clinton supporter

today.  LOL Oh and yesterday too!...LOL  LOL  Would you like to go 3/3? See you tomorrow... Thumbs Up 

Do yourself a favor, will you, go find somewhere else to be useful because along with being vulgar, you sure are being useless here.

That's what people with nothing of value are good at, being useless.

Maybe not completely useless. Maybe poo bear brought Amber over so he'd look smart in comparison.

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 4, 2016

amber isn't it fun here on lp? You can lurk, you can be a jerk and you can show just how idiotic you are and you

can keep coming back and getting more.

You fell so far off the IQ scale right now, you are insignificant. Nice meeting you.

You're still showing your low level here..something made you mad....I'm happy to have pissed off a Clinton supporter

today.  LOL Oh and yesterday too!...LOL  LOL  Would you like to go 3/3? See you tomorrow... Thumbs Up 

Do yourself a favor, will you, go find somewhere else to be useful because along with being vulgar, you sure are being useless here.

That's what people with nothing of value are good at, being useless.

You know, I also believe we should ban cigarettes too. About 440,000 Nationwide die every year, and about four million worldwide.

Oh this is too boring, I feel like I'm teaching the 7th grade. Enjoy your ignorance in pure bliss, who cares?

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 4, 2016

Your right the title doesn't have MORON in it... cause YOUR the  MORON here... I'm only here to support TRUMP.... YEAH...BABY..TRUMP'S the MAN all the way.... AGAIN.... READ the TITLE OF THIS THREAD!!!  how hard is that for you to figure out....  OH!! wait a minute...   your the MORON HERE that can't READ!!!

You're here to support Trump? Really???...Thanks for clearing that one up !

And you call me a moron? Green laugh

I'm wrong, this must be the 4th grade crowd. ROFL

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Oct 4, 2016

Maybe not completely useless. Maybe poo bear brought Amber over so he'd look smart in comparison.

I know the truth hurts. It will hurt much worse after the election results come in. And after the election is over, your game show host Trumpy will have to find more small businesses to screw over. Find new insults for women.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 4, 2016

You know, I also believe we should ban cigarettes too. About 440,000 Nationwide die every year, and about four million worldwide.

Oh this is too boring, I feel like I'm teaching the 7th grade. Enjoy your ignorance in pure bliss, who cares?

Typical democrat, thinking you know what's best for everyone else and taking away an individuals right to choose for themselves. I don't smoke, but I support the right of people to make their own choices, especially in areas that effect their own health.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 4, 2016

I know the truth hurts. It will hurt much worse after the election results come in. And after the election is over, your game show host Trumpy will have to find more small businesses to screw over. Find new insults for women.

Find new insults for women? Just like you Joker, or did your name calling slip your mind?

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Oct 4, 2016

Typical democrat, thinking you know what's best for everyone else and taking away an individuals right to choose for themselves. I don't smoke, but I support the right of people to make their own choices, especially in areas that effect their own health.

Okay, then deport all the blacks and Orientals until we figure out what to do with all the gang killings. No?

Hypocrisy much?

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 4, 2016

Find new insults for women? Just like you Joker, or did your name calling slip your mind?

Who the h3ll are you? Listen missy, I made a quaint remark about Conservatism being one of the symptoms earlier, and someone got their butt hurt. The name calling didn't start with me SILLY sully. Go back to your kitchen and make your husband's lunch for tomorrow. When you find something intriguing to write about, keep it to yourself. This way you won't make a fool of yourself again.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 4, 2016

Okay, then deport all the blacks and Orientals until we figure out what to do with all the gang killings. No?

Hypocrisy much?

Strawman much?

 

You did that in the other thread you trashed with insults recently too.

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Oct 4, 2016

Strawman much?

 

You did that in the other thread you trashed with insults recently too.

Strawman my foot. Trump wants to deport and stop Muslims from entering because of the terrorist attacks. Why not deport all blacks, Hispanics, Trailer Trash, White Supremists, and Orientals, or any other group that is also causing misery and mayhem? 

Answer that one Genius. It's a simple question. Strawman is weak, answer the question !

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

So you support these creeps then? Trump would deport them. And Hillary?

They Keep Finding Bodies’: Gang Violence in Long Island Town Fuels Immigration Debate

BRENTWOOD, N.Y. — Four dead teenagers. Two weeks. One town. And a ruthless gang, the authorities say, was most likely responsible for the toll. Again.

On Sept. 13, Nisa Mickens, 15, and her best friend, Kayla Cuevas, 16, were murdered, their battered bodies found near an elementary school here. A week later and just two miles away, the skeletal remains of two more teenagers — identified as Oscar Acosta, 19, and Miguel Garcia-Moran, 15 — were found in the woods near a psychiatric hospital. Oscar had been missing since May, Miguel since February. Their deaths have been ruled homicides.

Brentwood, a hardscrabble town of nearly 60,000 on Long Island, 40 miles east of Manhattan, has reached another crisis point. For nearly two decades, MS-13, a gang with roots in Los Angeles and El Salvador, has been terrorizing the town, the authorities say, especially its young people. Since 2009, its members have been accused of at least 14 murders, court and police records show.

Continues;

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/nyregion/they-keep-finding-bodies-gang-violence-in-long-island-town-fuels-immigration-debate.html?_r=0

_________________________________________________________________________

Then there's this;

Census: Record 42.4M immigrants, 23% of school kids, Muslims biggest jump

and some asked "Is obama still a muslim?"

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/census-record-42.4m-immigrants-23-of-school-kids-muslims-biggest-jump/article/2603543
1 OR 2 MORE DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATIONS AND THE MUSLIMS WILL HAVE CONTROL WITHIN A GENERATION.
RL-RANDOMLOGIC
Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 4, 2016

You're really a confused person aren't you.  Amazing how you twist things around to suit your agenda.  Trump is a genius businessman.  Its the contract he made with the banks lending him money that prevented him from going out of business... If he went down, they went down. 

Of course he had no taxable income, a child could understand what I posted.  And I'm the ignorant one stack?  LOL

There was a recession in the 90's that caused many in the realestate business to go under.  It had nothing to do with his business decisions. 

I'm not the confused one here stack.  We getting a little senile in our old age stack?

"Amazing how you twist things around to suit your agenda."

There is nothing twist; Trump's 1995 tax return says he lost $916 million.

"Of course he had no taxable income, a child could understand what I posted."

I said "Saw and heard Christie and Giuliani calling Trump a true "genius" for not paying federal taxes for almost 20 years ignoring the fact the "genius" had to lose almost $1 billion to get that tax break." What is so difficult about understanding my point was "Trump lost almost $1 billion?

"There was a recession in the 90's that caused many in the realestate business to go under."

The housing industry was a bust in the early 1990s because of increasing interest rates and an eight month recession which resulted in George H.W. Bush not getting reelected. Trump's tax return was from 1995 four years later and according to "history of a housing bubble", In 1994 "housing begins its comeback. People who had the intelligence to wait for the bottom are buying now at great values. Even rising mortgage rates are not shaking the recovery."

It's not about not paying taxes, but how a genius (your words) could lose almost a $1 billion when intelligent people were making billions.

"And I'm the ignorant one stack?"

You just proved it. Next time do the research.

"We getting a little senile in our old age stack?"

The first time my income exceeded $100,000 was in 1995 and had there been a recession like the BS you're spreading, I would have made half that much. Trump said: "We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated”. Why is so important for you to make Trump love you?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 5, 2016

So you support these creeps then? Trump would deport them. And Hillary?

They Keep Finding Bodies’: Gang Violence in Long Island Town Fuels Immigration Debate

BRENTWOOD, N.Y. — Four dead teenagers. Two weeks. One town. And a ruthless gang, the authorities say, was most likely responsible for the toll. Again.

On Sept. 13, Nisa Mickens, 15, and her best friend, Kayla Cuevas, 16, were murdered, their battered bodies found near an elementary school here. A week later and just two miles away, the skeletal remains of two more teenagers — identified as Oscar Acosta, 19, and Miguel Garcia-Moran, 15 — were found in the woods near a psychiatric hospital. Oscar had been missing since May, Miguel since February. Their deaths have been ruled homicides.

Brentwood, a hardscrabble town of nearly 60,000 on Long Island, 40 miles east of Manhattan, has reached another crisis point. For nearly two decades, MS-13, a gang with roots in Los Angeles and El Salvador, has been terrorizing the town, the authorities say, especially its young people. Since 2009, its members have been accused of at least 14 murders, court and police records show.

Continues;

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/nyregion/they-keep-finding-bodies-gang-violence-in-long-island-town-fuels-immigration-debate.html?_r=0

_________________________________________________________________________

Then there's this;

Census: Record 42.4M immigrants, 23% of school kids, Muslims biggest jump

and some asked "Is obama still a muslim?"

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/census-record-42.4m-immigrants-23-of-school-kids-muslims-biggest-jump/article/2603543
1 OR 2 MORE DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATIONS AND THE MUSLIMS WILL HAVE CONTROL WITHIN A GENERATION.

"1 OR 2 MORE DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATIONS AND THE MUSLIMS WILL HAVE CONTROL WITHIN A GENERATION."

I read something just like this in the Holocaust Museum.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 5, 2016

Here's a good one, Obama's brother is voting for trump.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/25/barack-obama-half-brother-malik-obama-trump

RL

Barbara Bush is voting for Clinton so what's your point?

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

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ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 4, 2016

Strawman my foot. Trump wants to deport and stop Muslims from entering because of the terrorist attacks. Why not deport all blacks, Hispanics, Trailer Trash, White Supremists, and Orientals, or any other group that is also causing misery and mayhem? 

Answer that one Genius. It's a simple question. Strawman is weak, answer the question !

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/immigration

Start with his actual policy statement ant try again.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 4, 2016

Who the h3ll are you? Listen missy, I made a quaint remark about Conservatism being one of the symptoms earlier, and someone got their butt hurt. The name calling didn't start with me SILLY sully. Go back to your kitchen and make your husband's lunch for tomorrow. When you find something intriguing to write about, keep it to yourself. This way you won't make a fool of yourself again.

At least my husband has someone who loves him. Lovies

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 5, 2016

Barbara Bush is voting for Clinton so what's your point?

Barbara Bush wants to keep it in the family.

RL

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Pence wins the debate...even according to the WAPO. I told you all Kaine is an over the top idiot and nut.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 5, 2016

"Amazing how you twist things around to suit your agenda."

There is nothing twist; Trump's 1995 tax return says he lost $916 million.

"Of course he had no taxable income, a child could understand what I posted."

I said "Saw and heard Christie and Giuliani calling Trump a true "genius" for not paying federal taxes for almost 20 years ignoring the fact the "genius" had to lose almost $1 billion to get that tax break." What is so difficult about understanding my point was "Trump lost almost $1 billion?

"There was a recession in the 90's that caused many in the realestate business to go under."

The housing industry was a bust in the early 1990s because of increasing interest rates and an eight month recession which resulted in George H.W. Bush not getting reelected. Trump's tax return was from 1995 four years later and according to "history of a housing bubble", In 1994 "housing begins its comeback. People who had the intelligence to wait for the bottom are buying now at great values. Even rising mortgage rates are not shaking the recovery."

It's not about not paying taxes, but how a genius (your words) could lose almost a $1 billion when intelligent people were making billions.

"And I'm the ignorant one stack?"

You just proved it. Next time do the research.

"We getting a little senile in our old age stack?"

The first time my income exceeded $100,000 was in 1995 and had there been a recession like the BS you're spreading, I would have made half that much. Trump said: "We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated”. Why is so important for you to make Trump love you?

Stack

Which lottery did you win in 1995?  Release your taxes and I will believe you.  Clinton's surplus had nothing to do with

his policies, he was just in office when the web came together.   Bill, George, George and Obama are all related.  Tax laws

provide incentives for high risk investments or no one would take risk, except maybe lottery players.  How much of that

lottery win do you still have?  Hilda hates the under educated and thinks they are deplorable.  Trump loves them because

they do most of the work in this country.   You don't have to have a advanced degree to contribute to the economy and as

I see it,  all but a few politicians are bottom feeding scum.   Many never did a real days work in their life's.   The one thing

I do know is that without current tax laws Trump might be broke and working as a sub contractor instead of employing

thousands and thousands of people all working and paying taxes.  Employers pay tons of Taxes every year, even Trump.

It's his personal taxes that are in question and I see no problem getting a tax break spread out over many years to recover

considering how much his efforts have contributed.   Look at the walmart Walton clan, they support Hilda while not paying

their employees enough in wages to stay off food stamps.   I was a structural engineer in the USAF and one of my jobs was

to approve outside contractor projects before final payment was paid.  Many times I rejected the product because these

people were total screw ups.   I suggested they pay the material + labor cost and that was it, ie leaving the contractor

with nothing to show for his/her sloppy work, some however produced superior work.  I am tired of people who don't have

a clue all using crap to run him down.  I guess when there is nothing good  to say about your horse then that's all that's

left.  I spent close to 20 years in or around construction and guess what, Trump's slurs are nothing.   Now days people are

confused, some don't even know their own gender.  Going out on a limb here but maybe they should buy a mirror.  If they

have a penis, then it's certain which group they belong to.   Gender is not something that should confuse us.  IMHO that is.

RL

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 5, 2016

At least my husband has someone who loves him. Lovies

sully, if this amber has a significant other...I sure in HE*LL hope it's not a man. I know who this idiot is

and the mustache is more than just playing with the standard avatar. I remember when they surfaced as

a new member thinking this is someone who has been here before and got canned..and canned...and canned.

Deo-nonfortuna

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 4, 2016

Strawman my foot. Trump wants to deport and stop Muslims from entering because of the terrorist attacks. Why not deport all blacks, Hispanics, Trailer Trash, White Supremists, and Orientals, or any other group that is also causing misery and mayhem? 

Answer that one Genius. It's a simple question. Strawman is weak, answer the question !

Trailer trash? Then, u should get deported too. Orientals? LOL

bigbear29

UN makes power play against Trump:

International governments have made a power play against Donald Trump by ratifying an international climate deal earlier than expected, effectively preventing him from “canceling” the deal as he has promised to do. 

The European Union’s Tuesday decision to join the Paris climate deal will push the deal over the threshold for ratification; it will formally take effect in 30 days. 

 

That means Trump, should he be elected president in November, could not “cancel” or renegotiate the terms of the agreement.

President Obama committed the United States to reduce its emissions by 26 percent to 28 percent by 2025 as part of the deal. The agreement is nonbinding, so Trump would be free to ignore it if he wins the White House.

Some say Trump’s rhetoric about the deal helped speed up ratification.

Most officials expected the climate deal, negotiated in December in Paris, to take effect no earlier than next year. A similar international climate accord, the Kyoto Protocol, wasn’t ratified for five years. 

But the specter of a Trump presidency appears to have spurred the deal along.

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by Deo-nonfortuna on Oct 5, 2016

Trailer trash? Then, u should get deported too. Orientals? LOL

Oh look, here comes more of the trash. Sorry If I offended your class of people. Hurry, the Beverly Hillbillies is coming on soon.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 5, 2016

Oh look, here comes more of the trash. Sorry If I offended your class of people. Hurry, the Beverly Hillbillies is coming on soon.

You talking about deo? He's recyclable..you on the other hand are just rotting in the bin somewhere bringing flies.

You are the trash, there is no one else to take that title - not bear, not stack, not king, not sullu not even deo...

came here to add your opinion..no wait, you came here because of what I said on that stupid thread that you didn't like..

you never posted here before that did you?....Roll Eyes....anyway....the minute you waltzed in, you filled the place with rubbish.

Do us all a favor go find someone who cares about what you post but don't mistake my answering your rot to mean

that I care. I'd just like to get back to the main bulk of the topic without the artificial filler. Consider yourself inducted

to the hall of poster waste.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 5, 2016

Stack

Which lottery did you win in 1995?  Release your taxes and I will believe you.  Clinton's surplus had nothing to do with

his policies, he was just in office when the web came together.   Bill, George, George and Obama are all related.  Tax laws

provide incentives for high risk investments or no one would take risk, except maybe lottery players.  How much of that

lottery win do you still have?  Hilda hates the under educated and thinks they are deplorable.  Trump loves them because

they do most of the work in this country.   You don't have to have a advanced degree to contribute to the economy and as

I see it,  all but a few politicians are bottom feeding scum.   Many never did a real days work in their life's.   The one thing

I do know is that without current tax laws Trump might be broke and working as a sub contractor instead of employing

thousands and thousands of people all working and paying taxes.  Employers pay tons of Taxes every year, even Trump.

It's his personal taxes that are in question and I see no problem getting a tax break spread out over many years to recover

considering how much his efforts have contributed.   Look at the walmart Walton clan, they support Hilda while not paying

their employees enough in wages to stay off food stamps.   I was a structural engineer in the USAF and one of my jobs was

to approve outside contractor projects before final payment was paid.  Many times I rejected the product because these

people were total screw ups.   I suggested they pay the material + labor cost and that was it, ie leaving the contractor

with nothing to show for his/her sloppy work, some however produced superior work.  I am tired of people who don't have

a clue all using crap to run him down.  I guess when there is nothing good  to say about your horse then that's all that's

left.  I spent close to 20 years in or around construction and guess what, Trump's slurs are nothing.   Now days people are

confused, some don't even know their own gender.  Going out on a limb here but maybe they should buy a mirror.  If they

have a penis, then it's certain which group they belong to.   Gender is not something that should confuse us.  IMHO that is.

RL

If there is a point you're trying to make, you did a terrible job.

"I was a structural engineer in the USAF and one of my jobs wasto approve outside contractor projects before final payment was paid."

OK?

"Many times I rejected the product because these people were total screw ups."

You just said that was part of your job.

"I suggested they pay the material + labor cost and that was it, ie leaving the contractor with nothing to show for his/her sloppy work, some however produced superior work."

Was part of your job giving suggestions to "total screw ups"? 

"I am tired of people who don't have a clue all using crap to run him down."

Run who down, the "total screw ups", the general you worked for?

I find it odd you had a very important job like the one you just described, but don't use sentence and paragraph structure making it next to impossible for the "total screw ups" understand your rejections.

About Trump's PTSD remarks, you said "I am a disabled veteran and I know exactly what he  meant." and while I can understand working with "total screw ups" can be very stressful, it's not even close to what combat Vets go through.

"We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated”.

That's what Trump said after winning the Nevada Caucus. Apparently you want the leader of the free World decided by the "poorly educated".

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 5, 2016

You talking about deo? He's recyclable..you on the other hand are just rotting in the bin somewhere bringing flies.

You are the trash, there is no one else to take that title - not bear, not stack, not king, not sullu not even deo...

came here to add your opinion..no wait, you came here because of what I said on that stupid thread that you didn't like..

you never posted here before that did you?....Roll Eyes....anyway....the minute you waltzed in, you filled the place with rubbish.

Do us all a favor go find someone who cares about what you post but don't mistake my answering your rot to mean

that I care. I'd just like to get back to the main bulk of the topic without the artificial filler. Consider yourself inducted

to the hall of poster waste.

"I'd just like to get back to the main bulk of the topic without the artificial filler."

The topic is the BC Lottery is taking bets on the Presidential election.

Talk about delusion of grandeur, one of Trumps poorly educated supporters believes the "main bulk of the topic" is anything dr65 decides. Seriously, we all know Trump "loves the poorly educated", but is it really necessary to childishly call other LP members "trash" hoping Trump will love you?

"Consider yourself inducted to the hall of poster waste."

Good comeback! You really are impressing all the other 12-year-olds with your thrash-talking, Maybe they will elect you fourth grade president. Wink

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 5, 2016

Pence wins the debate...even according to the WAPO. I told you all Kaine is an over the top idiot and nut.

How about that, a Trump supporter just said "Pence wins the debate".

Who would have thought that would happen?

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 5, 2016

You talking about deo? He's recyclable..you on the other hand are just rotting in the bin somewhere bringing flies.

You are the trash, there is no one else to take that title - not bear, not stack, not king, not sullu not even deo...

came here to add your opinion..no wait, you came here because of what I said on that stupid thread that you didn't like..

you never posted here before that did you?....Roll Eyes....anyway....the minute you waltzed in, you filled the place with rubbish.

Do us all a favor go find someone who cares about what you post but don't mistake my answering your rot to mean

that I care. I'd just like to get back to the main bulk of the topic without the artificial filler. Consider yourself inducted

to the hall of poster waste.

Who cares what you think? I certainly don't. Go back to your cave and be careful not to drag your knuckles too much.

Get over it loser, Hillary is going to win, so stop your whining already, wha wha wha    Crying

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 5, 2016

Who cares what you think? I certainly don't. Go back to your cave and be careful not to drag your knuckles too much.

Get over it loser, Hillary is going to win, so stop your whining already, wha wha wha    Crying

LOL!   Wana bet the crazy old corrupt hag wins?  Trump rallies draw thousands of Americans.  How many people are drawn to Hillary rallies?  My guess, there's more flies than people.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I see a couple questions here. 

"Was part of your job giving suggestions to "total screw ups"? 

My job was to do onsight inspections and make recommendations.  I passed on my report to those who I assume

reviewed the information and made decisions on what happened next.

 

"I am tired of people who don't have a clue all using crap to run him down."

Really, you need to ask?  I missed placing a comma between clue and all. 

 

"We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated”.

The press and crony polls claimed Trump supporters were undereducated.  Trump was making a sarcastic remark after

his supporters were basically referred to as idiots.

 

About Trump's PTSD remarks, you said "I am a disabled veteran and I know exactly what he  meant." and while I can

understand working with "total screw ups" can be very stressful, it's not even close to what combat Vets go through.

I had both peace and war time assignments.   Being a engineer in the military is not the same as in civilian life.  It's easy

to see you have no respect for the people who have actually served this country.  Reminds my of Hilda.

 

I guess my lack of education is the reason I don't take time to use proper form.  What kind of moron even looks for

stuff like that in a lottery forum?  Oh, oh, oh, I know, Stack.    Funny thing is,  I could go for weeks, months or even

years pointing out your mistakes in grammar etc... I was a bit surprised you would even bring that up.

 

 

RL

P.S. I hope you can read this without much effort. 

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 5, 2016

LOL!   Wana bet the crazy old corrupt hag wins?  Trump rallies draw thousands of Americans.  How many people are drawn to Hillary rallies?  My guess, there's more flies than people.

Keep dreaming. Just don't ask me for the napkins and Preparation H after the election is over. Go buy your own. 

bigbear29

Trump Tax Attorney: 'He Didn't Understand the Code':

An attorney who oversaw Donald Trump's income tax returns in the mid-1990s said the Republican presidential candidate had little interest in the tax code — contrasting with the billionaire's claim that he understood taxes "better than anyone" who had run for the White House.

"As far as I know, and that only goes through late '96, he didn't understand the code," said Jack Mitnick, a former tax adviser for Trump, in an interview with NBC's TODAY. "Nor would he have had the time and the patience to learn the provisions. That's a lifetime of experience."

Mitnick oversaw Trump's income tax returns in 1995, portions of which were published Saturday by the New York Times. The documents showed a reported loss of nearly $916 million — a deduction tax experts hired by the newspaper said was so large that Trump might have legally avoided paying federal income taxes for up to 18 years.

Trump responded to the report on Twitter: "I know our complex tax laws better than anyone who has ever run for president and am the only one who can fix them" — a stance he has repeated on the campaign trail.

Mitnick, however, told the TODAY show Tuesday that Trump was "not at all" involved in the 1995 filing.

"He was interested in the bottom line, not the detail," Mitnick said. "Staff under my supervision did his returns - he had no involvement in the preparation."

Mitnick, a CPA and attorney who did taxes for Trump from the 1960s to 1996, said that when Trump was married to Ivana, she was the one more likely to ask questions about how the taxes were prepared. Mitnick said that Trump's father Fred was very detail-oriented, while the younger Trump was more of a "concept" man.

"He knew that we would produce the lowest possible tax for him within the law. And he never went into the details," said Mitnick, who said it took him six months to prepare Trump's taxes. "He understood that he had to rely on us to generate the returns, that it was beyond his knowledge."

There is nothing in the Times report to say whether Trump used tax rules to avoid paying any federal income taxes following the 1995 filing.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 5, 2016

Keep dreaming. Just don't ask me for the napkins and Preparation H after the election is over. Go buy your own. 

What do napkins and prep H have to do with anything?  Everything sucks the way they are right now and she wants to not only continue it but to expand on it?  Give me a F'n break.  To put it mildly, people like you are sick.  Tell me what's good about things?  The middle-east is in flames, the worst its ever been.  The GDP is at near zero, more Americans than ever on foodstamps and not in the workforce.  More terrorist attacks on American soil in the last 8 years since 9-11.  Illegals are flooding the southern border at a record rate.  And you want more of this?

bigbear29

Trump Tax Attorney: 'He Didn't Understand the Code'  Part 2

 

Mitnick said all of the documents published by the Times appeared authentic, but did not confirm whether Trump used his business losses to offset personal income taxes in 1995 or the years that followed.

"That's a conclusion you have to draw for yourself. I won't comment on that," he said.

He added: "You're making a false assumption. You're assuming that the loss was generated in '95. Without the detailed schedules from a return, I can't even tell you of my own knowledge, when the loss arose."

He also criticized the Times for "extrapolating" that Trump could have avoided taxes for nearly two decades. "it was impossible for anyone looking at one page out of the '95 tax return to extrapolate forward and say that for 20 years he wouldn't have paid any tax."

Mitnick said that he and his accounting staff acted "in accordance with the law and regulations" to yield the lowest possible taxes for Trump.

"I thought it was wrong from a philosophical standpoint," said Mitnick. "But it was the law. It's what Congress enacted. We would be derelict in doing our duty if we didn't use it."

He added: "There are all kinds of provisions in the tax code that favor one group or another. And, by definition, they're unfair to all the others."

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Ha ha beggarbear... If it weren't for cut and paste, you'd have to talk about the job you don't have.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

bigbear

It's no surprise to me, I would think most everyone starts somewhere, heck, when I was first

squeezed out if my mothers womb, it took quite a bit of time just to learn how to talk.  Maybe

if he had known back then how to get around paying taxes in certain situations, you would not

have anything to talk about.  Dam it Trump, can't you do anything right......  Oh well,  I guess I

not alone having not been born with an abundance of tax knowledge.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 5, 2016

Ha ha beggarbear... If it weren't for cut and paste, you'd have to talk about the job you don't have.

LMAO

Party

RL

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 5, 2016

You talking about deo? He's recyclable..you on the other hand are just rotting in the bin somewhere bringing flies.

You are the trash, there is no one else to take that title - not bear, not stack, not king, not sullu not even deo...

came here to add your opinion..no wait, you came here because of what I said on that stupid thread that you didn't like..

you never posted here before that did you?....Roll Eyes....anyway....the minute you waltzed in, you filled the place with rubbish.

Do us all a favor go find someone who cares about what you post but don't mistake my answering your rot to mean

that I care. I'd just like to get back to the main bulk of the topic without the artificial filler. Consider yourself inducted

to the hall of poster waste.

Congratulations on your new stalker, dr65! Wink

I'd say "you're in the big time now", but considering who it is....

Artist77's avatarArtist77

I must stand up for the Beverly Hillbillies. I have never come across anyone who believed it was a show about trailer trash or uneducated people. Someone missed the symbolism big time.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 5, 2016

I must stand up for the Beverly Hillbillies. I have never come across anyone who believed it was a show about trailer trash or uneducated people. Someone missed the symbolism big time.

Yeah, nothing wrong with that show. Just clean comedy. I thought the same as you.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 5, 2016

Congratulations on your new stalker, dr65! Wink

I'd say "you're in the big time now", but considering who it is....

Yeah, it's like some sick peep show or Roz on Monster's Inc...watching, always watching...I'm used to it.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 5, 2016

sully, if this amber has a significant other...I sure in HE*LL hope it's not a man. I know who this idiot is

and the mustache is more than just playing with the standard avatar. I remember when they surfaced as

a new member thinking this is someone who has been here before and got canned..and canned...and canned.

Joker has been sent to the" Land of no Avatar" so many times, he's got frequent flyer miles.

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 5, 2016

What do napkins and prep H have to do with anything?  Everything sucks the way they are right now and she wants to not only continue it but to expand on it?  Give me a F'n break.  To put it mildly, people like you are sick.  Tell me what's good about things?  The middle-east is in flames, the worst its ever been.  The GDP is at near zero, more Americans than ever on foodstamps and not in the workforce.  More terrorist attacks on American soil in the last 8 years since 9-11.  Illegals are flooding the southern border at a record rate.  And you want more of this?

Oh puleeez, typical right wing prop. Fine, I'll buy the Preparation H and napkins. 

I don't have the time to educate you people, and not to mention, no matter what I write, you guys have your minds made up already. I lived with your kind and witnessed the convoluted logic first hand. I have better things to do than educate 6th graders.

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 5, 2016

Congratulations on your new stalker, dr65! Wink

I'd say "you're in the big time now", but considering who it is....

Double standard much? So let me get this straight, If she responds, it's just a response, If I respond I'm a stalker? 

Like I say, typical convoluted right wing Fascist logic. Conservatism is the real mental disorder.

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 5, 2016

I must stand up for the Beverly Hillbillies. I have never come across anyone who believed it was a show about trailer trash or uneducated people. Someone missed the symbolism big time.

Wow, talk about the misinformed. Sure the Hillbillies didn't live in a trailer, but before they made their millions they lived in a shack in the Ozark mountains. As far as the uneducated, then you must be one of them because you obviously didn't watch enough of the show to see how uneducated they were.

Trump was right. He said he will win with the poorly educated. Unfortunately, he won't win, but he got the poorly educated part spot on !

amber123

Strange no one addressed the point I brought up about deporting other races who also cause pain in the same level, If not more.

I shouldn't be surprised. They apparently didn't think that one out hard enough. Cool   Cheers

amber123

In 2014 alone, according to the U.S. CENSUS, Homicide tally was almost 700,000. Let's find out what race groups we can sort them out into, and systematically deport most of the races. America will soon be desolate if Trump gets his way, but I know he won't. Green laugh

 

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2015/01/06/detroit-crime-stats/21357935/

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Widdle sock puppet getting angwy?  Honestly, you're gonna have to come up with some better insults, inspire me!  Those are so 2007.

I can read your words, but this is what I hear:

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 5, 2016

Oh puleeez, typical right wing prop. Fine, I'll buy the Preparation H and napkins. 

I don't have the time to educate you people, and not to mention, no matter what I write, you guys have your minds made up already. I lived with your kind and witnessed the convoluted logic first hand. I have better things to do than educate 6th graders.

   If you have better things to do like you say you do... than why are you still posting here... or is it cause you need attention and drama...?

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 5, 2016

Widdle sock puppet getting angwy?  Honestly, you're gonna have to come up with some better insults, inspire me!  Those are so 2007.

I can read your words, but this is what I hear:

You have no problem when Trump insults people. Your whole Idealism is so flawed and Hypocritical, it's beyond repair.

BTW, I started the whole Butthurt routine recently, don't even think of trying to use my material. Get your own material if you can muster any.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 5, 2016

   If you have better things to do like you say you do... than why are you still posting here... or is it cause you need attention and drama...?

Yep, drama queen for sure.

I don't have the time to educate you people

I don't think she CAN educate any of us.  Getting educated by her is akin to getting drug counseling from a crackhead.

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 5, 2016

   If you have better things to do like you say you do... than why are you still posting here... or is it cause you need attention and drama...?

I have free time in between to respond to such foolish comments. You respond, so what is your excuse? Crazy

amber123

Ha ha, this is so comical. Dee feels that when she/He responds, it's normal, yet when I respond, I'm a troll. Who or what made that rule, and when, why, and how did it ever get approved? 

You people are nuts ! Crazy

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Actually, I DO have a problem with some of what he says and even when I don't, it's HOW he says things.   You don't even have the foggiest clue as to what I think about him OR my "idealism".

Butthurt?  When did I even mention that?  I merely pointed out you are acting like a whiny little crybaby.  What you are posting is the same thing that's being deposited in your diaper.   Also, I believe "butthurt" goes back even farther than '07. It's certainly not original, so you can't claim it as your own. 

Get my own material?  Sweet cheeks, you don't know me, do you? 

I think I know who you are...or once were in here, but not positive.  I'm pretty good at sniffing out sock puppets.

amber123

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 5, 2016

Yep, drama queen for sure.

I don't have the time to educate you people

I don't think she CAN educate any of us.  Getting educated by her is akin to getting drug counseling from a crackhead.

Wow, you didn't fall far from the tree did ya?

Whose educating? I was making fun of you. WOW!!!!...This is scary..lol

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Like I said, you need to get some new material.  I can admire a good insult, but sister...none of yours fits that description.  I see I'm gonna have to dumb mine down for you to understand them.

Actually, I am a composite of all the Beverly Hillbillies.  I love animals like Ellie May, have the common sense of Uncle Jed, am mean as a snake like Granny (and a right fair cook, too) and as handsome as Jethro.  Wish I had that old jalopy, though, would be worth tens of thousands now.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 5, 2016

In 2014 alone, according to the U.S. CENSUS, Homicide tally was almost 700,000. Let's find out what race groups we can sort them out into, and systematically deport most of the races. America will soon be desolate if Trump gets his way, but I know he won't. Green laugh

 

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2015/01/06/detroit-crime-stats/21357935/

Deporting illegals, they ARE NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS!

You twisted everything Trump said, Vetting people before they come here and keeping people from running across our border is what he addressed.

Keeping the drugs and illegal weapons out of the US is a good thing.

Any fair minded person would listen to reason before jumping to conclusions.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 5, 2016

Wow, talk about the misinformed. Sure the Hillbillies didn't live in a trailer, but before they made their millions they lived in a shack in the Ozark mountains. As far as the uneducated, then you must be one of them because you obviously didn't watch enough of the show to see how uneducated they were.

Trump was right. He said he will win with the poorly educated. Unfortunately, he won't win, but he got the poorly educated part spot on !

What is YOUR level of education? Look the show up online. It was about simple and moral people as contrasted with greedy and money chasing people. You have to be one of the most vulgar and unsophisticated people on lp. By the way, the Ozarks are not in Tennessee.  Lol

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 5, 2016

Wow, you didn't fall far from the tree did ya?

Whose educating? I was making fun of you. WOW!!!!...This is scary..lol

amber123

You do know that the show was a sitcom don't you?   There home town was based on a theme park called Silver dollar city.

It's still running and has millions of visitors every year.   My favorite attraction is the saloon show.  The saloon girls use to sale

garters and let guys take them off.  One past visit, there were around 200 people standing in line waiting for the show and the

girls all came out doing high kicks and selling garters.  For fun I told the wife, honey, I need more dollars.   Everyone in the area

broke out laughing.   Great place, maybe you ought to check it out sometime.   No shootings, no drugs, kids can run free without

having to worry.  Maybe, just maybe the undereducated are on to something. 

RL

Deo-nonfortuna

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 5, 2016

You talking about deo? He's recyclable..you on the other hand are just rotting in the bin somewhere bringing flies.

You are the trash, there is no one else to take that title - not bear, not stack, not king, not sullu not even deo...

came here to add your opinion..no wait, you came here because of what I said on that stupid thread that you didn't like..

you never posted here before that did you?....Roll Eyes....anyway....the minute you waltzed in, you filled the place with rubbish.

Do us all a favor go find someone who cares about what you post but don't mistake my answering your rot to mean

that I care. I'd just like to get back to the main bulk of the topic without the artificial filler. Consider yourself inducted

to the hall of poster waste.

Hmm, thanks for the subtle "Compliments" here.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Deo-nonfortuna on Oct 6, 2016

Hmm, thanks for the subtle "Compliments" here.

Wow, you actually thought that post was all about you? It was meant for amber123. Narcissistic brilliance at its very

best deo. Is the PA lurking crew laughing at that one? Did you even follow the course of events here, sure you did. Then

why are you so off track in posting against me instead of the one who called you trash to begin with? I guess it just 

goes to show some people aren't worth the effort, if you wouldn't have been trigger happy, as usual, you would have seen

the post for what it was and yes indeed it was a subtle compliment, considering your past. It meant you at least had some

hope but now, thanks, I see the futility in that venture because you are hopeless, helpless and lost. 

So come on back with some other juvenile remark and cement your place in the class of idiots here. Just keep talking putting

that big old foot in your mouth but just remember to take it out daily and kick yourself in the can, cause the main purpose

of being here at Lottery Post, is lottery. You need to take your unsophisticated, defensive writing style and replace it with a PA

Lottery winning style. I'll always bother people like you because I'm a threat to your big head...darn, doesn't it tick you off to

come out constant loser where it counts? This forum, PA at 1:35 pm and 7:00 pm, NJ when you play there and just in life in

general. I'm a person you love to hate or hate to love..you're watching me, thanks but it's very, very, creepy.  Puke

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 4, 2016

All I can say is to buy some extra Preparation H because when Hillary becomes President, your butthurt will show on LP and you'll need all the help with the sores on your ass.

Oh, buy some tissues for the whining to come.

If that's all you think there is to worry about is butt hurt, you are gravely mistaken. Tissues, Preparation H and whining.

That's not what Trump supporters will need if he loses. There would be great disappointment just like when Obama won

but if the next 4 years will be just like the last 8, it'll just be satisfying to know that the vote we cast was for change and 

that we didn't cave and support lies, corruption, mismanagement and being taken for just our vote. ObamaCare is crashing.

Premiums increased 67%, $1.7 Billion payment to Iran for a release of hostages. That ransom payment should put them

in perfect position to create more problems for the US. Racism increasing in states, religion being banned, the right to be

Americans slowly being taken away, poor still poor, out of work still out of work, immigrants flooding in and more on the

way, roads bad, military cuts, schools terrible, neighborhoods falling apart. I can't understand the resistance for change.

The only thing we're on the road to changing here is a face, new face but same old routine with Hillary. As soon as her

life's goal is accomplished, you won't see much different. She will increase race tensions, magnify problems to the point

where they increase national outrage just like they did with BLM and the constant attention to black on black, white on 

black, black on white making each incident a cause that needs attention, that's a major part of the problem. Call police 

the racists, implant into people's minds that we have a race issue that raised its ugly head just recently and the whole

country is rioting or angry at law enforcement. These problems have been around for years. Obama made race an issue.

Just as he made religion an issue and transgender junk an issue and the Constitution an issue. Expect more problems if

Hillary gets in there. With Kaine by her side, expect to lose even though you thought you won. Your remedies for us that

support Trump in the case that he loses are silly and immature. We will all need way more than any of what you're offering

if he loses. Just watch what happens if she's elected and tell me in a couple years if you wasted your vote or not.

bigbear29

Evangelical exiles: How Trump is driving some believers away from the GOP:

Donald Trump may “love the evangelicals,” but the feeling is certainly not mutual among a good portion of them.

More than half of the most committed evangelical Christians didn’t support Donald Trump for president in the Republican primary. And although a majority of them have resigned themselves to backing him rather than supporting the Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton, evangelicalism is changing in ways that may not be apparent to the casual observer.

Trump’s candidacy, in fact, is helping to accelerate the trend pushing some evangelicals away from an automatic affiliation with the Republican Party. Evangelicals oppose Trump for a few reasons: They view his character as repugnant and his temperament as dangerous. And while many of them do not like Clinton, they are not as alarmed by their policy disagreements with her as they are by the idea that the church would align itself with someone like Trump.

Two individuals I’ve encountered over the past few months most vividly demonstrate the changing face of evangelicalism, which is increasingly looking past national solutions and focusing on local activism and community building.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Not sure why you'd have links to this very thread and two of them at that.  I'll be willing to teach you how to create a hyperlink and Todd has some tutorials.

They view his character as repugnant and his temperament as dangerous.

Funny, but everyone I know has the same view of Hillary.

I read that story on Yahoo last night, but they've been a Democrat cheerleader for as long as I've been online.  If you want a more accurate measure than these questionable polls, try reading the comments under the article.  No, they're not all pro-Trump, but I trust them to be more in line with how the American voting public thinks than some poll with dubious methodology.

Just my own opinion, but I don't think EITHER party supports Christian values, but once again, it's the lesser of two evils and the Republicans win that contest, hands down.

BTW, the word "Yahoo" has an interesting origin.  (this was on my trivia calendar just the other day)

a rude, noisy, or violent person.
synonyms:    redneck, boor, lout, oaf, barbarian, Neanderthal, brute, thug
"Her brother married into a family of yahoos"
Origin - mid 18th century: from the name of an imaginary race of brutish creatures in Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels (1726).

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 5, 2016

I see a couple questions here. 

"Was part of your job giving suggestions to "total screw ups"? 

My job was to do onsight inspections and make recommendations.  I passed on my report to those who I assume

reviewed the information and made decisions on what happened next.

 

"I am tired of people who don't have a clue all using crap to run him down."

Really, you need to ask?  I missed placing a comma between clue and all. 

 

"We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated”.

The press and crony polls claimed Trump supporters were undereducated.  Trump was making a sarcastic remark after

his supporters were basically referred to as idiots.

 

About Trump's PTSD remarks, you said "I am a disabled veteran and I know exactly what he  meant." and while I can

understand working with "total screw ups" can be very stressful, it's not even close to what combat Vets go through.

I had both peace and war time assignments.   Being a engineer in the military is not the same as in civilian life.  It's easy

to see you have no respect for the people who have actually served this country.  Reminds my of Hilda.

 

I guess my lack of education is the reason I don't take time to use proper form.  What kind of moron even looks for

stuff like that in a lottery forum?  Oh, oh, oh, I know, Stack.    Funny thing is,  I could go for weeks, months or even

years pointing out your mistakes in grammar etc... I was a bit surprised you would even bring that up.

 

 

RL

P.S. I hope you can read this without much effort. 

As usual your remarks are almost unreadable, but from what I think I can decipher (assuming the highlighted blue are quotes) you quoted what you previously said and then asked yourself a question.

"I am tired of people who don't have a clue all using crap to run him down."

Really, you need to ask?  I missed placing a comma between clue and all.

And then you copied and answered Trump's quote.

"We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated”.

"The press and crony polls claimed Trump supporters were undereducated.  Trump was making a sarcastic remark after his supporters were basically referred to as idiots."

Trump made those remarks after winning the Nevada Caucus. The "poorly educated" data came from either Trump's people or from Republican Party caucus polling. Do you know the difference between a "caucus" and a "primary"?

"I had both peace and war time assignments,"

Translation: You never saw combat have no experience and have no clue why many real returning soliders have PTSD. Where you actually in the military?

"Being a engineer in the military is not the same as in civilian life."

Sounds a lot like an Industrial Engineer. Which branch were you in?

"It's easy to see you have no respect for the people who have actually served this country."

Been a lifetime VFW member for over 30 years, but from your "military experience", you obviously have no idea what the VFW is, does, or what membership requirements are. Show some respect and pretending you witnessed real PTSD.

If you think you can convince one the few fence sitters left to vote for Trump by spinning his remarks or by attacking Clinton, you're a month late.  But by all means, continue; don't let if be said I stopped you from making a fool out of yourself.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 6, 2016

Not sure why you'd have links to this very thread and two of them at that.  I'll be willing to teach you how to create a hyperlink and Todd has some tutorials.

They view his character as repugnant and his temperament as dangerous.

Funny, but everyone I know has the same view of Hillary.

I read that story on Yahoo last night, but they've been a Democrat cheerleader for as long as I've been online.  If you want a more accurate measure than these questionable polls, try reading the comments under the article.  No, they're not all pro-Trump, but I trust them to be more in line with how the American voting public thinks than some poll with dubious methodology.

Just my own opinion, but I don't think EITHER party supports Christian values, but once again, it's the lesser of two evils and the Republicans win that contest, hands down.

BTW, the word "Yahoo" has an interesting origin.  (this was on my trivia calendar just the other day)

a rude, noisy, or violent person.
synonyms:    redneck, boor, lout, oaf, barbarian, Neanderthal, brute, thug
"Her brother married into a family of yahoos"
Origin - mid 18th century: from the name of an imaginary race of brutish creatures in Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels (1726).

"Just my own opinion, but I don't think EITHER party supports Christian values,"

I'd agree it wasn't for that pesky First Amendment issue.

"but once again, it's the lesser of two evils and the Republicans win that contest, hands down."

Refresh my memory; why did Richard Nixon resign?

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 6, 2016

"Just my own opinion, but I don't think EITHER party supports Christian values,"

I'd agree it wasn't for that pesky First Amendment issue.

"but once again, it's the lesser of two evils and the Republicans win that contest, hands down."

Refresh my memory; why did Richard Nixon resign?

You really don't want me to play the strawman game with you, do you?  I stand by my statement...unless you want to start comparing each party's criminals, and then I reckon the Republicans won't even begin to match the Dem's scandals.  I call your Tricky Dick and raise you Teddy Kennedy...or ANY Kennedy, for that matter.  Not sure what you meant by the 1st Amendment reference.  Explain it to me like I was as simple as...oh, let's say bigbear.

BTW, you were a Grade-A douche when you went off on RL for some reason.   I saw absolutely nothing wrong with what he said. What YOU said, however, is not only wrong, but egregiously so.

Anyone that served in war is a hero period.

I guess you forgot about Benedict Arnold in the Revolutionary War?  I could name people in American uniform in each and every war the U.S. fought who were NOT heroes and were, in fact, the opposite.  The Confederate soldiers who starved and abused Union soldiers in the horrid prison camps or Sherman and his troops who committed war crimes against the Southern civilian population during their march to the sea weren't heroes.

Although over 21,000 American soldiers were given varying sentences for desertion during World War II, including 49 death sentences, Eddie Slovik's death sentence was the only one that was actually carried out.  The My Lai Massacre during Vietnam is a shameful blot upon American military history. I can understand being furious for a village giving aid and comfort to the Viet Cong, but murdering children and raping women?   More recently, Bowe Bergdahl was certainly an exception to your declaration...a coward AND a traitor.  I could come up with more if you like...but they'll just keep on disproving your statement. 

Not everyone who wears a uniform is a hero, be they military, fire fighters and I'm guessing you've heard about all the shootings by police over the last year or two...or do I need to refresh your memory on that?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Three of the scummiest politicians in the last 50 years... 

1.  obama

2. Harry reid

3. Nancy Pelosi

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 6, 2016

Three of the scummiest politicians in the last 50 years... 

1.  obama

2. Harry reid

3. Nancy Pelosi

Totally agree.  We are getting rid of two of the worst and that time cant come soon enough for me.  Why Pelousy remains is hard to understand.  Its like you have to pry these people away from their desk and office.  TERM LIMITS, PLEASE, TERM LIMITS.

bigbear29

Trump Tax Revelations No Surprise to Past Associates: Part 1

When Sebastian Pignatello saw the news that Donald Trump had declared a loss of $916 million in 1995, potentially allowing him to legally avoid paying federal income taxes for close to two decades, the retired Queens investor wasn't surprised. As a shareholder in the Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts, Pignatello had a front row seat to the many ways in which he says Trump used the legal and corporate landscape for his own benefit, almost always at the expense of everyone else's.

"I invested in the Trump casinos because I thought there was value there," said Pignatello, 67. "What I was totally oblivious to was Donald Trump's ability and willingness to screw the people that he deals with... That was my downfall as an investor."

For the general public, Trump's 1995 tax records, reported Saturday by the New York Times, offered a rare glimpse into the financial standing of the Republican nominee -- the first presidential candidate since 1972 to decline to release any of his tax returns.

They showed a man who appeared able to reap extraordinary tax benefits from his own financial blunders in the early 1990s -- including three Atlantic City casino bankruptcies, a failed airline business and a poorly-timed purchase of Manhattan's Plaza Hotel.

But for at least a portion of those who've done business with Trump in the past, watching him make money while they've lost, the 1995 documents affirmed something about the candidate that they already knew: Trump is in it for Trump, and no one else.

"The man makes money no matter what," said Marty Rosenberg, 73, who says his plate glass company lost hundreds of thousands of dollars when Trump's Taj Mahal went bankrupt in 1991. "That's all that's important to him. That and his ego."

Rosenberg's company, Atlantic Plate Glass, was nearly finished with its work on a multi-million dollar contract with the Taj Mahal when he says payments suddenly stopped. He was owed about $1.2 million, he said.

Rather than accept the losses, Rosenberg organized a group of subcontractors who were owed money for work on the casino and set out to negotiate with Trump's attorneys.

bigbear29

Trump Tax Revelations No Surprise to Past Associates: part 2

Rosenberg was able to recoup a portion of the money left on his contract, but he still took a hit. He knew others weren't as lucky.

"Did we survive? Absolutely," he said. "But there were a lot of people who didn't."

That feeling is shared by retired music store owner Michael Diehl, who says he lost $30,000 — or about a third of his yearly income -- on a $100,000 contract to supply the Taj with grand pianos. The 89-year-old said the gambling mecca could only give him 70 cents on the dollar when it ran into financial difficulties prior to declaring bankruptcy in 1991.

"I don't think Donald Trump could walk down the boardwalk in Atlantic City without looking around behind his back to see who's after him," said Diehl. "Because some people are really, really upset. They've lost hundreds of thousands of dollars. I got off easy."

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 6, 2016

Trump Tax Revelations No Surprise to Past Associates: part 2

Rosenberg was able to recoup a portion of the money left on his contract, but he still took a hit. He knew others weren't as lucky.

"Did we survive? Absolutely," he said. "But there were a lot of people who didn't."

That feeling is shared by retired music store owner Michael Diehl, who says he lost $30,000 — or about a third of his yearly income -- on a $100,000 contract to supply the Taj with grand pianos. The 89-year-old said the gambling mecca could only give him 70 cents on the dollar when it ran into financial difficulties prior to declaring bankruptcy in 1991.

"I don't think Donald Trump could walk down the boardwalk in Atlantic City without looking around behind his back to see who's after him," said Diehl. "Because some people are really, really upset. They've lost hundreds of thousands of dollars. I got off easy."

Just the right man for the job, the US needs someone who will work for us instead of all the other countries.

We have been taken to the cleaners so many times under Obama and this will continue under Hilda.   The

trade deficit with china is running at 500 billion per year.  How long do you think china would trade with the

US if they showed a 500 billion trade deficit?   It's time for a new sheriff,  if Trump can do the same for the US

as he has for himself then I say go for it.  In business some win and some and some loose, if you can't run 

with the big dogs then stay on the porch.   Trump may be a pitbull but I think Obama is a Chihuahua, all bark

and no bite.    Obama just released a bunch of drug dealers back on the public.  Trash Trump all you want, but

it's time we had a leader that's not afraid to step on a few people to win.  I just seen a report where two boxes

of clinton's emails have gone missing.  It's thought that they were reclassified so they can be tossed into a 

black hole, gone, gone, gone for ever.   Wake up America. 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I just seen a report suggesting the Regan's would not have voted for Trump.  This just reinforces my views that

Trump is the right choice.  Sure Nancy would vote for Hilda because witches have to stick together.  Nancy also

communed with other-world spirits and she then advised Ronnie.   Many of the problems we face today, Ronnie

started. 

RL

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 6, 2016

I just seen a report suggesting the Regan's would not have voted for Trump.  This just reinforces my views that

Trump is the right choice.  Sure Nancy would vote for Hilda because witches have to stick together.  Nancy also

communed with other-world spirits and she then advised Ronnie.   Many of the problems we face today, Ronnie

started. 

RL

How in the heck can they get that from the grave? They are both dead. Is that CNN?...now they're going too far.

Boy they will do anything and say anything to support Hillzilla.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 6, 2016

How in the heck can they get that from the grave? They are both dead. Is that CNN?...now they're going too far.

Boy they will do anything and say anything to support Hillzilla.

   It was on the Fox News tonite...

Dee88's avatarDee88

    Trump was right.....  Hillary rigged the debate with Trump  click on the link below..

 

     

https://youtu.be/VMFtZtd9Am4

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Here's something that bothers me about the Clinton foundation.  According to my research the foundation has

received something like $3 billion.  It's been stated that 10% goes to the cause which would equal $300 million.

It's also been said that they help millions of people.   Lets see what that breaks down to.

 

If they helped 2 million people then it works out to $150.00 per person.

If they helped 3 million people then it works out to $100,00 per person

If they helped 4 million people then  it works out to $ 75.00 per person

 

I don't know how far a couple hundred bucks goes in other countries but this stinks of rot.  Paying  $2.7 billion to

distribute the 300 million to the needy.   It's no wonder we are now 20 billion in dept.

 

If we add the Haiti rip-off and do a head count then I think the world would be better off without it.  For everyone

that is except the Clinton's and their friends. 

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437883/hillarys-america-secret-history-democratic-party-dinesh-dsouza-clinton-foundation

RL

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 7, 2016

Here's something that bothers me about the Clinton foundation.  According to my research the foundation has

received something like $3 billion.  It's been stated that 10% goes to the cause which would equal $300 million.

It's also been said that they help millions of people.   Lets see what that breaks down to.

 

If they helped 2 million people then it works out to $150.00 per person.

If they helped 3 million people then it works out to $100,00 per person

If they helped 4 million people then  it works out to $ 75.00 per person

 

I don't know how far a couple hundred bucks goes in other countries but this stinks of rot.  Paying  $2.7 billion to

distribute the 300 million to the needy.   It's no wonder we are now 20 billion in dept.

 

If we add the Haiti rip-off and do a head count then I think the world would be better off without it.  For everyone

that is except the Clinton's and their friends. 

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437883/hillarys-america-secret-history-democratic-party-dinesh-dsouza-clinton-foundation

RL

I'm just wondering if they'll have the nerve to step in and offer Haiti assistance this time.

They botched the last relief effort by squandering donations and supplying low standard materials.

The Clinton Foundation donates then gets donations in return. This is also an entity that should be

investigated but sadly, probably never will be.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by on Mar 28, 2024

bb

Your so naive, it's incredible or maybe just thick headed.    Trumps attorney advised him not to make his tax returns

public until after the audit.   Do you think the lawyers are concerned about the taxes he paid or maybe, just maybe

they are with holding it for it legal reasons.   Let the IRS do their job or do you think a late disclosure will cost him 

the election.   Why don't you do a little math and calculate the amount of earnings he would of had to made in order

to use the loss.  I know you feel the need to keep spouting taxes, taxes taxes trying to draw attention away from

your corrupt leader.   I hope that Trump wins just so he can appoint the right people so that all the crooked federal

agencies can be investigated, you know, the ones covering up for Obama and Hilda.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 7, 2016

I'm just wondering if they'll have the nerve to step in and offer Haiti assistance this time.

They botched the last relief effort by squandering donations and supplying low standard materials.

The Clinton Foundation donates then gets donations in return. This is also an entity that should be

investigated but sadly, probably never will be.

Give me 300 million and I will make some big changes with the other 2.7 billion.  Looks similar to the

money laundering scheme reported to have taken place in Arkansas. 

RL

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Forgot to add, I totally agree with this as well.

 

Don R. "Dick" Ivey, PhD


From the time I was able to vote, I voted Republican. I am now 84 years old.

Recently I received a questionnaire and request for money from the Republican Party and strongly agree with every question, as I have since Obama was elected.

Unfortunately the one question that was missing is: What have the Republicans done for the American people?

We gave you a majority in the House and Senate, and you never listened to
us. Now you want our money, my money, more money. You should be more
concerned about our votes, not our money.

You are the establishment which means all you want is to save your jobs and line your pockets.

Well guess what? It's not going to happen.


You might think we are fools because you feel Trump is on a self-destruct
course, but look beyond Washington and listen to the masses. Nobody has
achieved what he has, especially in the state of New York

Here's why I want Trump. Yes, he's a bit of an ass; yes, he's an egomaniac;
but I don't care.

The country is a mess because politicians suck.

The Republican Party is two-faced and gutless, and illegals are everywhere...and now we have SANCTUARY CITIES... are we INSANE?

I want it all fixed!

I don't care that Trump is crude.

I don't care that he insults people.

I don't care that he has changed positions.

I don't care that he's been married 3 times.

I don't care that he fights with Megan Kelly and Rosie O'Donnell.

I don't care that he doesn't know the name of some Muslim terrorist.

Our country has become weak, bankrupt. Our enemies are making fun of us. We are being invaded by illegals. We are becoming a nation of victims where every Tom, Ricardo and Hassid is a special group with special rights to a point where we don't even recognize the country we were born and raised in, "AND I JUST WANT IT FIXED." And Trump is the only guy who seems to understand what the people want.

I'm sick of politicians, sick of the Democratic Party, the Republican
Party, and sick of illegals. I just want this thing fixed. Trump may
not be a saint, but he doesn't have lobbyist money controlling him; he
doesn't have political correctness restraining him; all you know is that he
has been very successful; a good negotiator; he has built a lot of things;
and, he's also not a politician. And, he says he'll fix it. And, I believe
him because he is too much of an egotist to be proven wrong or looked
at and called a liar..

I don't care if the guy has bad hair.

You are welcome to pass this on, or not.

Thought for the Day "No country can sustain, in idleness, more than a small percentage of its numbers. The great majority must labor at something productive!"

Don R. "Dick" Ivey, PhD

P.S. No Borders, No Language, No Culture = No Country..

I sure hope this goes to everyone.

This says it all.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

lejardin... I agree 100%!  Trump is the right person at the right time.  Hillary would be a disaster.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

LiveinGreenBay, I had to edit my post to state my position too!

Was just on the news how the White House, the main stream media is all covering for Hitlery to win.  Now I recall there was no love lost between the Obama's and Hitlery so it seems to me the ONLY reason they support her is to keep his legacy.  IT IS ALWAYS ABOUT OBAMA.   So if Hitlery gets in, look out.  Kiss America goodbye.

bigbear29

Yo! mr. smart person, did trump's attorney also tell trump not to release the letter from the IRS that states that trump's taxes are in AUDIT?????

Just in case the mr. smart person did not get it the first time.  Did trump's attorney tell trump also not to release the letter that states trump's taxes are in AUDIT??

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 7, 2016

LiveinGreenBay, I had to edit my post to state my position too!

Was just on the news how the White House, the main stream media is all covering for Hitlery to win.  Now I recall there was no love lost between the Obama's and Hitlery so it seems to me the ONLY reason they support her is to keep his legacy.  IT IS ALWAYS ABOUT OBAMA.   So if Hitlery gets in, look out.  Kiss America goodbye.

obama's greatest accomplishment... Debt up 9 trillion dollars since he became President.  Great huh?

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/debt-under-obama-9000000000000

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 7, 2016

Forgot to add, I totally agree with this as well.

 

Don R. "Dick" Ivey, PhD


From the time I was able to vote, I voted Republican. I am now 84 years old.

Recently I received a questionnaire and request for money from the Republican Party and strongly agree with every question, as I have since Obama was elected.

Unfortunately the one question that was missing is: What have the Republicans done for the American people?

We gave you a majority in the House and Senate, and you never listened to
us. Now you want our money, my money, more money. You should be more
concerned about our votes, not our money.

You are the establishment which means all you want is to save your jobs and line your pockets.

Well guess what? It's not going to happen.


You might think we are fools because you feel Trump is on a self-destruct
course, but look beyond Washington and listen to the masses. Nobody has
achieved what he has, especially in the state of New York

Here's why I want Trump. Yes, he's a bit of an ass; yes, he's an egomaniac;
but I don't care.

The country is a mess because politicians suck.

The Republican Party is two-faced and gutless, and illegals are everywhere...and now we have SANCTUARY CITIES... are we INSANE?

I want it all fixed!

I don't care that Trump is crude.

I don't care that he insults people.

I don't care that he has changed positions.

I don't care that he's been married 3 times.

I don't care that he fights with Megan Kelly and Rosie O'Donnell.

I don't care that he doesn't know the name of some Muslim terrorist.

Our country has become weak, bankrupt. Our enemies are making fun of us. We are being invaded by illegals. We are becoming a nation of victims where every Tom, Ricardo and Hassid is a special group with special rights to a point where we don't even recognize the country we were born and raised in, "AND I JUST WANT IT FIXED." And Trump is the only guy who seems to understand what the people want.

I'm sick of politicians, sick of the Democratic Party, the Republican
Party, and sick of illegals. I just want this thing fixed. Trump may
not be a saint, but he doesn't have lobbyist money controlling him; he
doesn't have political correctness restraining him; all you know is that he
has been very successful; a good negotiator; he has built a lot of things;
and, he's also not a politician. And, he says he'll fix it. And, I believe
him because he is too much of an egotist to be proven wrong or looked
at and called a liar..

I don't care if the guy has bad hair.

You are welcome to pass this on, or not.

Thought for the Day "No country can sustain, in idleness, more than a small percentage of its numbers. The great majority must labor at something productive!"

Don R. "Dick" Ivey, PhD

P.S. No Borders, No Language, No Culture = No Country..

I sure hope this goes to everyone.

This says it all.

I got chuckle out of the "bad hair" line.

But yeah, what he said, I agree. 

Unlike the author, I've voted mostly democrat, but no more. Obama has taken the country too far in the wrong direction, Hillary would go further, and that's got to stop.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 7, 2016

Forgot to add, I totally agree with this as well.

 

Don R. "Dick" Ivey, PhD


From the time I was able to vote, I voted Republican. I am now 84 years old.

Recently I received a questionnaire and request for money from the Republican Party and strongly agree with every question, as I have since Obama was elected.

Unfortunately the one question that was missing is: What have the Republicans done for the American people?

We gave you a majority in the House and Senate, and you never listened to
us. Now you want our money, my money, more money. You should be more
concerned about our votes, not our money.

You are the establishment which means all you want is to save your jobs and line your pockets.

Well guess what? It's not going to happen.


You might think we are fools because you feel Trump is on a self-destruct
course, but look beyond Washington and listen to the masses. Nobody has
achieved what he has, especially in the state of New York

Here's why I want Trump. Yes, he's a bit of an ass; yes, he's an egomaniac;
but I don't care.

The country is a mess because politicians suck.

The Republican Party is two-faced and gutless, and illegals are everywhere...and now we have SANCTUARY CITIES... are we INSANE?

I want it all fixed!

I don't care that Trump is crude.

I don't care that he insults people.

I don't care that he has changed positions.

I don't care that he's been married 3 times.

I don't care that he fights with Megan Kelly and Rosie O'Donnell.

I don't care that he doesn't know the name of some Muslim terrorist.

Our country has become weak, bankrupt. Our enemies are making fun of us. We are being invaded by illegals. We are becoming a nation of victims where every Tom, Ricardo and Hassid is a special group with special rights to a point where we don't even recognize the country we were born and raised in, "AND I JUST WANT IT FIXED." And Trump is the only guy who seems to understand what the people want.

I'm sick of politicians, sick of the Democratic Party, the Republican
Party, and sick of illegals. I just want this thing fixed. Trump may
not be a saint, but he doesn't have lobbyist money controlling him; he
doesn't have political correctness restraining him; all you know is that he
has been very successful; a good negotiator; he has built a lot of things;
and, he's also not a politician. And, he says he'll fix it. And, I believe
him because he is too much of an egotist to be proven wrong or looked
at and called a liar..

I don't care if the guy has bad hair.

You are welcome to pass this on, or not.

Thought for the Day "No country can sustain, in idleness, more than a small percentage of its numbers. The great majority must labor at something productive!"

Don R. "Dick" Ivey, PhD

P.S. No Borders, No Language, No Culture = No Country..

I sure hope this goes to everyone.

This says it all.

Exactly. I couldnt have said it better. I dont care what party Trump is, Im sick of politicians spouting the same bs and then doing then the opposite. Trump is beholden to nobody. Period.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

What happened to the billions of dollars the Clinton Foundation received for Hati after the earthquake?  At the time Hillary was SOS.  More of that money went to the contractors (CLINTON FOUNDATION DONORS) than the Hatian people.  If the Hatian people had decent housing maybe 800 people wouldn't have died?  I hope Trump brings this up in the next debate. 

Both Bill and Hillary Clinton are SCUM and should be in prison for this alone!

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437883/hillarys-america-secret-history-democratic-party-dinesh-dsouza-clinton-foundation

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Hillary Clinton opposed a minimum wage hike for workers in Hati?  I didn't know that.  Where's the MSM news and Bernie Sanders on this?

bigbear29

Trump on Hot Mic: 'When You're a Star ... You Can Do Anything' to Women:

A decade before Donald Trump became the Republican nominee for president, he shared candid and lewd views on women that were caught on tape.

"I'm automatically attracted to beautiful women — I just start kissing them, it's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything," he said in the 2005 conversation. "Grab 'em by the pussy."

Ten years later, as a candidate and now the Republican nominee, Trump has come under fire for insulting and directing crude language toward women. He's rejected such criticism repeatedly, insisting "nobody has more respect for women than me."

In the 2005 recording obtained by NBC News from Access Hollywood, Trump, then newly married to Melania Trump, spots a young woman through a bus window while in conversation with Billy Bush, at the time an anchor for Access Hollywood, and others.

"Woah, woah," he said to Bush about the woman's appearance. "I gotta use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her."

Earlier in the conversation, Trump recalls talking about trying to woo a married woman.

"I moved on her actually, she was down in Palm Beach and I failed. I'll admit it. I did try to <snip> her, she was married … and I moved on her very heavily," Trump is heard saying.

"I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture and I told her 'I'll show you where you can get some nice furniture,'" Trump is heard saying. "I moved on her like a bitch, and I could not get there, and she was married. And all the sudden I see her and she's got the big phony tits, she's totally changed her look."

The new revelations come just 33 days left before the election, making Trump's uphill climb with women voters even more challenging.

Just 24 percent of women view Trump favorably, according to the latest NBC News/ Wall Street Journal poll from mid-September. In a two-way race, Trump polls two points higher with men, while Clinton leads Trump with women by 14 points.

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LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Hey welfarebear I guess you didn't see my previous posts?  If Trump did what Hillary did he'd be long gone by now.  So my question is to you... Knowing what you know about Hillary Clinton how can you still support her?  If so, how can you sleep at night.

bigbear29

The same way you sleep at night supporting trump.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 7, 2016

The same way you sleep at night supporting trump.

Why?  Because he called a fat woman miss piggy?  LOL!  I thought that was funny.

bigbear29

I'm sure you found it funny!

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 7, 2016

Why?  Because he called a fat woman miss piggy?  LOL!  I thought that was funny.

You always put your foot into it. I wish you would join the other side. Lol. The real issue was that national and international pageant winners sign contracts to stay within a few lbs of their weight. While those pageants are outdated, one should not participate if one cannot adhere to the contractual terms.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 7, 2016

You always put your foot into it. I wish you would join the other side. Lol. The real issue was that national and international pageant winners sign contracts to stay within a few lbs of their weight. While those pageants are outdated, one should not participate if one cannot adhere to the contractual terms.

Oh STFU!  Tired of your feminism.  Tell me one thing truthfully.  Do women talk about men?  Do they comment on a man's looks?  Is a man overweight?  Is he too tall?  Is he too short?  Give me a F'n break with your BS already honey!

bigbear29

I have to give it to you liveingreenbay, you are a true trump person.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 7, 2016

I have to give it to you liveingreenbay, you are a true trump person.

I'm a man.  And you?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 7, 2016

Oh STFU!  Tired of your feminism.  Tell me one thing truthfully.  Do women talk about men?  Do they comment on a man's looks?  Is a man overweight?  Is he too tall?  Is he too short?  Give me a F'n break with your BS already honey!

I am not your honey and many women find you offensive. But you are dumb as a rock and vulgar. Mad because the educated women ignore you? I think you are a sock puppet of a former member.

bigbear29

A real man.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 7, 2016

I am not your honey and many women find you offensive. But you are dumb as a rock and vulgar. Mad because the educated women ignore you? I think you are a sock puppet of a former member.

You're wrong about everything except two.  True, you're not my honey  and I'm certainly not "dumb as a rock".  I'm married, am successful and have a wonderful life.  I'm just not a pussy.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 7, 2016

A real man.

I'd start calling you manbear but somehow that wouldn't fit.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Fact is, this was 11 years ago, someone dredged it up. Big deal. 

Many years ago I had a cousin that was a branch manager of a large bank in Ohio. Every now and then I would stop in to say hi. Now, at the time, all the tellers were women. They were younger women in their 20's and my cousin was in her late 30's, maybe around 40. She told me one day that her and the girls would judge the men that came in by how their rears looked. And they would comment to each other. "Oh, that's a nice one. I'd like to grab and squeeze that one". And yes, men do notice and talk to each other about pretty women. These things have been going on since time began, and it will continue to go on.

So......get over it. This is not the real issue at hand. This was dredged up at the perfect moment to distract what the real issues are. The real issue is who is the better candidate to lead our country in the future. All we can do is look at Trump's accomplishments as a businessman and the way things get done, and Hillary's accomplishments, and how she handled Bengazi, her "foundation", her email debacle, oh, and just how involved her and Bill were in all those mysterious deaths of colleagues over the years.

I'm still waiting for Poobear to answer those questions, while he whines about tax returns.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Poobear.  Ha!

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 7, 2016

Fact is, this was 11 years ago, someone dredged it up. Big deal. 

Many years ago I had a cousin that was a branch manager of a large bank in Ohio. Every now and then I would stop in to say hi. Now, at the time, all the tellers were women. They were younger women in their 20's and my cousin was in her late 30's, maybe around 40. She told me one day that her and the girls would judge the men that came in by how their rears looked. And they would comment to each other. "Oh, that's a nice one. I'd like to grab and squeeze that one". And yes, men do notice and talk to each other about pretty women. These things have been going on since time began, and it will continue to go on.

So......get over it. This is not the real issue at hand. This was dredged up at the perfect moment to distract what the real issues are. The real issue is who is the better candidate to lead our country in the future. All we can do is look at Trump's accomplishments as a businessman and the way things get done, and Hillary's accomplishments, and how she handled Bengazi, her "foundation", her email debacle, oh, and just how involved her and Bill were in all those mysterious deaths of colleagues over the years.

I'm still waiting for Poobear to answer those questions, while he whines about tax returns.

Agreed. 

Andrew Dice Clay makes a living out of turning bar room conversations into stand up comedy skits. For all we know Trump was imitating the "Diceman!"

It's also pretty well known that women to women conversations are much more graphic than men's.

But the real irony here is the media trying (at Hillary's request?) to dig up things like this on Trump to help Hillary........as if Bill Clinton is innocent here.

Green laugh

MaximumMillions

Well, he had a good run, up to the gropey end of it.

Who are Trump supporters going to vote for now that Trump has probably lost the women vote for good?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 7, 2016

Agreed. 

Andrew Dice Clay makes a living out of turning bar room conversations into stand up comedy skits. For all we know Trump was imitating the "Diceman!"

It's also pretty well known that women to women conversations are much more graphic than men's.

But the real irony here is the media trying (at Hillary's request?) to dig up things like this on Trump to help Hillary........as if Bill Clinton is innocent here.

Green laugh

That's what they've been good at..turning the tables and making everyone forget they did it, said it, lived it too.

Hillzilla did things in the past that just magically are forgotten when it's turned around on Trump.

People can't  be that dumb No Nod

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Hillary's wall street speeches hacked...

CLINTON ADMITS SHE'S OUT OF TOUCH.

CLINTON SAYS YOU NEED A PRIVATE AND PUBLIC POSITION ON POLICY.

CLINTON TALKS ABOUT HOLDING WALL STREET ACCOUNTABLE FOR ONLY POLITICAL REASONS.

CLINTON SUGGESTS WALL STREET INSIDERS ARE WHAT IS NEEDED TO FIX WALL STREET.

CLINTON ADMITS WALL STREET NEEDS FUNDING.

CLINTON TOUTS HER RELATIONSHIP TO WALL STREET AS A SENATOR.

And there's more.  She also wants open borders.  Just what we need huh?

https://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/wikileaks-appears-to-release-hillary-clintons-paid-speech-tr?utm_term=.nt2lGkdbx#.erg0dY1Pm

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Oct 7, 2016

Well, he had a good run, up to the gropey end of it.

Who are Trump supporters going to vote for now that Trump has probably lost the women vote for good?

What makes you think he lost the women vote?  Have you seen his rallies lately?  I see lots of women there.  I'm talking thousands and thousands of people.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 7, 2016

What makes you think he lost the women vote?  Have you seen his rallies lately?  I see lots of women there.  I'm talking thousands and thousands of people.

But do these women condone non-consent pussy-grabbing?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Oct 7, 2016

But do these women condone non-consent pussy-grabbing?

What are you talking about?  Did I miss something?

bigbear29

You are asking the wrong person.

MaximumMillions

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

That's guy talk.  I'm not condoning it, just saying.  I'm sure Bill Clinton said much worse.  He also did much worse.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 7, 2016

That's guy talk.  I'm not condoning it, just saying.  I'm sure Bill Clinton said much worse.  He also did much worse.

Sexual assault and guy talk shouldn't overlap.

While Bill Clinton was accused of forcing himself on an intern, Trump was accused of rape. They both aren't what they claim to be.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by MaximumMillions on Oct 7, 2016

Sexual assault and guy talk shouldn't overlap.

While Bill Clinton was accused of forcing himself on an intern, Trump was accused of rape. They both aren't what they claim to be.

Where do you get accused of rape?  Didn't see that in the video.  BTW Bill Clinton did rape women.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 6, 2016

You really don't want me to play the strawman game with you, do you?  I stand by my statement...unless you want to start comparing each party's criminals, and then I reckon the Republicans won't even begin to match the Dem's scandals.  I call your Tricky Dick and raise you Teddy Kennedy...or ANY Kennedy, for that matter.  Not sure what you meant by the 1st Amendment reference.  Explain it to me like I was as simple as...oh, let's say bigbear.

BTW, you were a Grade-A douche when you went off on RL for some reason.   I saw absolutely nothing wrong with what he said. What YOU said, however, is not only wrong, but egregiously so.

Anyone that served in war is a hero period.

I guess you forgot about Benedict Arnold in the Revolutionary War?  I could name people in American uniform in each and every war the U.S. fought who were NOT heroes and were, in fact, the opposite.  The Confederate soldiers who starved and abused Union soldiers in the horrid prison camps or Sherman and his troops who committed war crimes against the Southern civilian population during their march to the sea weren't heroes.

Although over 21,000 American soldiers were given varying sentences for desertion during World War II, including 49 death sentences, Eddie Slovik's death sentence was the only one that was actually carried out.  The My Lai Massacre during Vietnam is a shameful blot upon American military history. I can understand being furious for a village giving aid and comfort to the Viet Cong, but murdering children and raping women?   More recently, Bowe Bergdahl was certainly an exception to your declaration...a coward AND a traitor.  I could come up with more if you like...but they'll just keep on disproving your statement. 

Not everyone who wears a uniform is a hero, be they military, fire fighters and I'm guessing you've heard about all the shootings by police over the last year or two...or do I need to refresh your memory on that?

"You really don't want me to play the strawman game with you, do you?"

Are you denying you said "Just my own opinion, but I don't think EITHER party supports Christian values"?

"Not sure what you meant by the 1st Amendment reference."

Speaking of a "stawman" argument, there is no and never was a state religion. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof Granted it's just your opinion, but with no established state religion, why should any political party support any religious values?

"unless you want to start comparing each party's criminals, and then I reckon the Republicans won't even begin to match the Dem's scandals."

Only one U.S. President resigned the office and was given a full and unconditional pardon for any crimes he might have committed against the United States while president. Gerald Ford used the 1915 Burdick v the U.S. Supreme Court decision to explain why he pardoned Nixon. Basically the decision says a pardon indicated a presumption of guilt and "acceptance of a pardon was tantamount to a confession of that guilt".

Seriously, we're taking about the Presidential election not your local dog catcher scandals. 

"BTW, you were a Grade-A douche when you went off on RL for some reason. "

But you're not when you go off on Bear, Amber or King?

Trump said: "when people come back from war and combat, and they see thing that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over, and you’re strong and you can handle it. But a lot of people can’t handle it, "And then RL said: "I am a disabled veteran and I know exactly what he meant." and then when on to say "even the strongest of the strong have problems trying to deal with what they faced".

Apparently you missed where RL said to me "It's easy to see you have no respect for the people who have actually served this country" questioning my military service. But this is an Internet message board where people like RL post behind anonymous IDs and say they saw PTDS first hand has an Air Force engineer giving suggestions to "total screw ups". Don't get me started on RL gender rants.

"I guess you forgot about Benedict Arnold in the Revolutionary War?"

You're terrible at your own strawman game! At least give an appearance of commenting on my remarks or staying on topic.

"Not everyone who wears a uniform is a hero"

In context, my "Anyone that served in war is a hero period." remarks were made after RL said "He never considered himself a Hero as he made it out alive". There are sorts of opinions on "heroes", but saying "only the KIAs are heroes" is hardly a majority opinion and neither is Trump's "“He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.” opinion about John McCain.

BTW, on May 10, 1775, Benedict Arnold was called one of the "heroes of Fort Ticonderoga". Generally whatever dishonorable thing people will do in the future doesn't change what the did in the past. Being banned from MLB doesn't change the fact Pete Rose had 4,256 career hits.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 7, 2016

That's guy talk.  I'm not condoning it, just saying.  I'm sure Bill Clinton said much worse.  He also did much worse.

You brought up a good point. Trump was simply talking trash while Bill Clinton actually did the deed. This B.S. About vulgar, sexist talk is insane as both guys and gals make comments about those of the opposite sex. I have done it in the past and so has my husband...nothing new here as there are millions of folks who have participated in "locker room" talk. My sorority house was as nasty as any frat house when it came to this so the libturds need to get off their high horse as I bet most of them are just as guilty.

The media will do all they can to alter the focus of the election and what truly matters to the American people. This won't sway my vote for Trump and I doubt most other females who favored him prior will change either.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Oct 7, 2016

You brought up a good point. Trump was simply talking trash while Bill Clinton actually did the deed. This B.S. About vulgar, sexist talk is insane as both guys and gals make comments about those of the opposite sex. I have done it in the past and so has my husband...nothing new here as there are millions of folks who have participated in "locker room" talk. My sorority house was as nasty as any frat house when it came to this so the libturds need to get off their high horse as I bet most of them are just as guilty.

The media will do all they can to alter the focus of the election and what truly matters to the American people. This won't sway my vote for Trump and I doubt most other females who favored him prior will change either.

I was thinking about you and the other Trump supporters when this news broke.

"This won't sway my vote for Trump and I doubt most other females who favored him prior will change either."

There is lots speculation by some of the REPUBLICAN that Trump shouldn't even be on the ballot.

Mitt Romney: "Hitting on married women? Condoning assault? Such vile degradations demean our wives and daughters and corrupt America's face to the world."

N.H. Senator Kelly Ayotte: “His comments are totally inappropriate and offensive” 

Paul Ryan: “I am sickened by what I heard today, Women are to be championed and revered, not objectified. I hope Mr. Trump treats this situation with the seriousness it deserves and works to demonstrate to the country that he has greater respect for women than this clip suggests.”

ILL Senator Mark Kirk: "DJT is a malignant clown - unprepared and unfit to be president of the United States."

Can't wait to read how Trump's "poorly educated" supporter spin this. Lurking

kreative1's avatarkreative1

BREAKING NEWS: Donald Trump expected to make video statement about his comments on women. Story is developing

bigbear29

Trump came on to apologize and he brings up Bill Clinton, stating that Bill Clinton has done worse.  You apologize and than you move on.  You don't bring up Bill Clinton.  Trump is a idiot.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 8, 2016

Trump came on to apologize and he brings up Bill Clinton, stating that Bill Clinton has done worse.  You apologize and than you move on.  You don't bring up Bill Clinton.  Trump is a idiot.

Bill is the wife...uh, husband of Hillary...so yeah, it IS relevant.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Hilda's and Barry both have fictional followings.  They say Barry has a 50% approval rating but I can't find

even a hand full of people that don't hate him and his policies.   Look at Hilda's events, I see maybe 100

people in attendance most of the time and I bet many of them work for her.   Voting fraud is going to be

big this year and if Hilda's support was real then why would they need it.   Trump is rude, crude and a few

other things that make him hard to take but so what.  Hilda is a thieving, lying, two faced, money grubbing,

misleading, power hungry, man hating, self centered, anti-american, devil worshipping,  email shredding,

back door dealing,  anti-law and order, grossly negligent,  truthfully challenged, open border loving, wall

street champion, lobbyist supporting, spirit conjuring, Bernie burning, back stabbing, moral less, seizure

ridden,  "Sign of demonic possession",  Witch. 

 

Joe Nichols - Brokenheartsville   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJtA-KqK_Lo

 

She wears that big ol wig to cover up her horns.

Sweet talking forked tongue with a wicked charm.

When she left the stage, they had to hold her arms

Please tell me Lord, that it won't be long.

 

Cheers to the past, Hilda kiss my ass

I hope were finished with you.

Here's to the girl bent on wrecking our world

Another devil who wants to do us in

 

I think the devil has a hubby named Bill

We all thought that we were over that hill. 

We've no time to kill, gives me a chill

Down in Brokenhilda'sville

 

It's not to long till we hit the box

might be full of fraud but might be not

When you cast your vote then wave good by   

to a corrupted system that can't survive.

 

Cheers to the past, Hilda kiss my ass

I hope were finished with you.

Here's to the girl bent on wrecking our world

Another devil who wants to do us in

 

RL

dr65's avatardr65

2005? They dug up a video from 2005 and are making it relevant today?

I'm not going to defend it. I don't like it either. I do think that the only apology he has to make is that

he was recorded talking about it. You know there are women that must have lined up for him because

of his money. And if you're all adults here, you know and have probably heard this kind of talk at some

point in your life...maybe you used it yourself too. It's raw and raunchy and disgusting but to be shocked

over it is a bit too righteous and for the news to be making it top news over 800 deaths in Haiti is a bit

too tabloid and something that happened among 'guys' in 2005 a bit too irrelevant. Before the ambushers

jump me, who cares..but get this...there issues today that are more important than what someone said

about women in 2005. Of course the media is having a field day with this but really should be ashamed

to force this on viewers and interject their own opinion that this is just more proof that Trump is against

women. Hillary is anti-America and American people, that doesn't bother anyone?? 

 

His ideals have changed, his view has changed, his life has changed, he has a new ambition and that is to

make the US better than it is now. What he said in 1980, 1990, 2000 or any other time is less important

than what he is saying now. Hillary has done much, much more to harm this country and you're going to

use locker room material to base your decision (oh and a great dose of CNN and other liberal push) on 

whether the man has what it takes to change things. If you do not think that emails, lies, Benghazi, years

of political correctness in ways that supported Hillary and her interests, fraud, cover ups, murders, health

issues and flip flopping on real issues for years and a whole lot more is more important than this, you

really deserve what you get. Fast forward to today, Hillary is doing things she always has done because

she's a comfortable politician immersed in what they think works in Washington...too bad it leans heavily

towards corruption, self service and actions for the Democratic party and not us lowly people. Trump's never

been a politician and that makes him a good candidate to change what's been wrong for years. I'd rather see

his message for change put into action than what we've been seeing and forced to live with for too long.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 8, 2016

Hilda's and Barry both have fictional followings.  They say Barry has a 50% approval rating but I can't find

even a hand full of people that don't hate him and his policies.   Look at Hilda's events, I see maybe 100

people in attendance most of the time and I bet many of them work for her.   Voting fraud is going to be

big this year and if Hilda's support was real then why would they need it.   Trump is rude, crude and a few

other things that make him hard to take but so what.  Hilda is a thieving, lying, two faced, money grubbing,

misleading, power hungry, man hating, self centered, anti-american, devil worshipping,  email shredding,

back door dealing,  anti-law and order, grossly negligent,  truthfully challenged, open border loving, wall

street champion, lobbyist supporting, spirit conjuring, Bernie burning, back stabbing, moral less, seizure

ridden,  "Sign of demonic possession",  Witch. 

 

Joe Nichols - Brokenheartsville   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJtA-KqK_Lo

 

She wears that big ol wig to cover up her horns.

Sweet talking forked tongue with a wicked charm.

When she left the stage, they had to hold her arms

Please tell me Lord, that it won't be long.

 

Cheers to the past, Hilda kiss my ass

I hope were finished with you.

Here's to the girl bent on wrecking our world

Another devil who wants to do us in

 

I think the devil has a hubby named Bill

We all thought that we were over that hill. 

We've no time to kill, gives me a chill

Down in Brokenhilda'sville

 

It's not to long till we hit the box

might be full of fraud but might be not

When you cast your vote then wave good by   

to a corrupted system that can't survive.

 

Cheers to the past, Hilda kiss my ass

I hope were finished with you.

Here's to the girl bent on wrecking our world

Another devil who wants to do us in

 

RL

Yeah and the boxes of ballots in an Ohio warehouse marked HILLARY? What about those? That's

just one little town. How many more boxes are ready to be slipped in with the REAL ballots on 

election day. 

I don't know why these people choose to forget and forgive these important issues. Trump is coming

in with a billionaire playboy record..he wasn't a politician who was elected to help us. Hillary is one.

Her record is awful in matters that count. Maybe we have to dumb it down...take a new hire for a job

fresh out of college and compare it to a person who has been doing their job for years. The new hire

is ambitious, eager to do the job, sees things that need to change or how the job may be done better.

The person who has been in the position for years and years knows he's secure, doesn't see anything

wrong with what he's doing because heh, it worked all this time so why bother changing things? He

knows what works for him and that's all that's important because he's in and that's all that matters.

That's Hillary, she's in and that's all that matters. The reason she's talking change now and hasn't

done it before is because all the eyes are on her and her eyes are on the bigger prize. After election day,

if she wins, expect her to settle into good old Washington politics. No ambition, no change, no difference.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 8, 2016

Bill is the wife...uh, husband of Hillary...so yeah, it IS relevant.

No, you were right. She's the man.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Oct 7, 2016

You brought up a good point. Trump was simply talking trash while Bill Clinton actually did the deed. This B.S. About vulgar, sexist talk is insane as both guys and gals make comments about those of the opposite sex. I have done it in the past and so has my husband...nothing new here as there are millions of folks who have participated in "locker room" talk. My sorority house was as nasty as any frat house when it came to this so the libturds need to get off their high horse as I bet most of them are just as guilty.

The media will do all they can to alter the focus of the election and what truly matters to the American people. This won't sway my vote for Trump and I doubt most other females who favored him prior will change either.

Please note I support Trump. Anyone is better than Hillary. But, no offense, you are not out in the workforce every day so your view is different. You send risque photos of yourself in bikinis to lp people you do not even know. I have received a couple and was more than a little uncomfortable and am not the only lp member who felt that way.Teach your son to judge a woman by her brains and heart, and not her body. You are supporting and reinforcing a bigoted sexist lp member who thinks calling someone Miss Piggy...in a worldwide setting , is "funny." This is the same fool who said who cares about professionally educated women and everyone is equal. Really???? I have great respect for the lp members who say Trump is not perfect but he is way better than the alternative. These guys do not rally around Trump's negative comments on women and dismiss it as locker room talk and I appreciate that fact. Trashing women in a public setting is Not trash talk or locker room talk but I am hoping Trump can evolve in that area. But when an extremist like that Greenbay moron, latches on to one of Trump's more "colorful" statements and extrapolates it a 100 fold and uses it treat any lp woman like they are third class citizens, be concerned.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 8, 2016

Please note I support Trump. Anyone is better than Hillary. But, no offense, you are not out in the workforce every day so your view is different. You send risque photos of yourself in bikinis to lp people you do not even know. I have received a couple and was more than a little uncomfortable and am not the only lp member who felt that way.Teach your son to judge a woman by her brains and heart, and not her body. You are supporting and reinforcing a bigoted sexist lp member who thinks calling someone Miss Piggy...in a worldwide setting , is "funny." This is the same fool who said who cares about professionally educated women and everyone is equal. Really???? I have great respect for the lp members who say Trump is not perfect but he is way better than the alternative. These guys do not rally around Trump's negative comments on women and dismiss it as locker room talk and I appreciate that fact. Trashing women in a public setting is Not trash talk or locker room talk but I am hoping Trump can evolve in that area. But when an extremist like that Greenbay moron, latches on to one of Trump's more "colorful" statements and extrapolates it a 100 fold and uses it treat any lp woman like they are third class citizens, be concerned.

Artist, I know you were talking to Drenick..but I don't agree either with how women are treated, used, abused

or viewed by some people.

Trump is crude and he is the better alternative. I don't think a few statements should be put ahead of what's 

important, they should be addressed but not ranked as a real issue. That tape was from 2005, he was a different

guy then and has said most likely more things in the years since that are the same or worse. Billionaire playboy

without a care in the world or for the world, most are probably like that. Now in 2016 his message and focus is

on how to make things better for us than Hillary will. She won't, it'll be the same. His apology is a start I guess.

I didn't see his apology but will go see it now and being a supporter will judge whether he means it or not and not

just say okay he apologized, go Trump! I don't appreciate how things are so lopsided. Hillary can do or say anything

and it's brushed under the carpet or excused. Trump gets all the heat and people are okay with what Hillary's done.

She's the politician and she committed crimes, was dirty and is not the kind of person or woman we need running 

country. Her supporters seem to be fine with not getting answers or the truth. It will be more of the same if she's

President.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

I find it pretty funny reading the comments by the male politicians condemning Trump.

I would bet that every one of them at some point in their lives has had some conversation about a woman, or women in general about how she/they look, or sex, etc. And women do the same. I already told the story about my cousin. LOL.That opened my eyes. At that time it didn't occur to me women thought about men like that.

Here's a fact. Every one of us at some time in our lives have had a conversation in person, or on the phone, or on the internet that if it was recorded and replayed, no matter how many years later, would be embarrassing. Whoever recorded that, did so with the intent to keep it and use it some day. Who records private conversations? So, I think those that are offended should maybe come down off the pedestal.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 7, 2016

I am not your honey and many women find you offensive. But you are dumb as a rock and vulgar. Mad because the educated women ignore you? I think you are a sock puppet of a former member.

Artist, I apologize for my comment toward you yesterday.  It was uncalled for.  Sometimes I act like a jerk and I'm the first to admit that.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

I wasn't referring to Trump's recent off the record comments...only the tweets. Buy I do appreciate the enlightened men and women of LP who, like me, support Trump, but do not take it to mean any Public negative comments about women are funny or ok. I know there are extremist fringe members of both parties who will take anything he says to show it is bad...but yet the other fringe members use it to support their own bigotry and say such statements are ok or funny or just locker room talk and we all do it. Actually we "all" do not.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 8, 2016

Artist, I know you were talking to Drenick..but I don't agree either with how women are treated, used, abused

or viewed by some people.

Trump is crude and he is the better alternative. I don't think a few statements should be put ahead of what's 

important, they should be addressed but not ranked as a real issue. That tape was from 2005, he was a different

guy then and has said most likely more things in the years since that are the same or worse. Billionaire playboy

without a care in the world or for the world, most are probably like that. Now in 2016 his message and focus is

on how to make things better for us than Hillary will. She won't, it'll be the same. His apology is a start I guess.

I didn't see his apology but will go see it now and being a supporter will judge whether he means it or not and not

just say okay he apologized, go Trump! I don't appreciate how things are so lopsided. Hillary can do or say anything

and it's brushed under the carpet or excused. Trump gets all the heat and people are okay with what Hillary's done.

She's the politician and she committed crimes, was dirty and is not the kind of person or woman we need running 

country. Her supporters seem to be fine with not getting answers or the truth. It will be more of the same if she's

President.

I agree.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

What's worse?  What Trump said 11 years ago or what Hillary did as SOS?  Actions speak louder than words.  Only the feeble minded will let this video of Trump sway their vote.

dr65's avatardr65

I just watched the apology video. I'm fine with that. The key words that stood out to me were that he's 

traveled the country talking to people and that his travels have changed him. He never had to care or

focus on what was important to the American people, Hillary did. It was her responsibility to get in there

and not only talk a good talk but fight the good fight. She didn't. Trump is now in a position to care and 

take the matters that affect us and our country to heart. He has no agenda but to change things for our

benefit. He has no eye on becoming powerful, I do not see that in him. I see that in Hillary though and her

goal is to become most powerful. That's very dangerous and considering her actions over the past 30 or so

years in the public spotlight, does it really matter to anyone what Trump said 10 years ago? It has nothing 

to do with the world or where we are today. Snide, cutting, vulgar, distasteful remarks fill our world on a

daily basis..this forum is just one example..it doesn't change my world or anyone's else's. It's wrong but

we get back on track to what's important. Anyone in Washington who is shocked and making statements

about what he said better hope someone doesn't have a video or witness or marred past that will ever come

out about them. I'm sure almost 100% of them have been in the same shoes at some point in their life.

bigbear29

No it is not relevant, Bill is not running for office.  trump is!

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 8, 2016

No it is not relevant, Bill is not running for office.  trump is!

If Hillary is elected, if you think Bill won't be involved in policy decisions, then you are very naive. In a sense, Bill is running for office. He is a former president. He will advise Hillary.

If she is elected, we get both.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 8, 2016

I just watched the apology video. I'm fine with that. The key words that stood out to me were that he's 

traveled the country talking to people and that his travels have changed him. He never had to care or

focus on what was important to the American people, Hillary did. It was her responsibility to get in there

and not only talk a good talk but fight the good fight. She didn't. Trump is now in a position to care and 

take the matters that affect us and our country to heart. He has no agenda but to change things for our

benefit. He has no eye on becoming powerful, I do not see that in him. I see that in Hillary though and her

goal is to become most powerful. That's very dangerous and considering her actions over the past 30 or so

years in the public spotlight, does it really matter to anyone what Trump said 10 years ago? It has nothing 

to do with the world or where we are today. Snide, cutting, vulgar, distasteful remarks fill our world on a

daily basis..this forum is just one example..it doesn't change my world or anyone's else's. It's wrong but

we get back on track to what's important. Anyone in Washington who is shocked and making statements

about what he said better hope someone doesn't have a video or witness or marred past that will ever come

out about them. I'm sure almost 100% of them have been in the same shoes at some point in their life.

I remember having to atttend a media relations course in DC years ago and was told any comment made to a reporter off the record, could not be used (with the exception of discovery in litigation). Trump's comments were not right but they were off the record and the interview had ended. Why is no one questioning the journalistic ethics of Access Hollywood?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

I don't want Billy boy prowling the Whitehouse at all hours.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 8, 2016

I remember having to atttend a media relations course in DC years ago and was told any comment made to a reporter off the record, could not be used (with the exception of discovery in litigation). Trump's comments were not right but they were off the record and the interview had ended. Why is no one questioning the journalistic ethics of Access Hollywood?

That's it, thank you Artist! I saw bits of the video and not where it originated, it IS access Hollywood I remembered

the clown with Trump but couldn't make the connection with the where...he's all about that kind of stuff, wasn't he

there laughing along with it all too? 

Good point with the ethics, there are none unless the content matter is anything Hillary and then it's just diseased

ethics. CNN, MSNBC, etc.

bigbear29

The GOP’s biggest fear appears to be coming true: Independents ditching Donald Trump:

We know Donald Trump had a rough week last week, and now that we've got new polling coming in, it's beginning to come into focus.

The bad news for Trump and his party is that, based on the data we have, it looks like exactly what the GOP feared: Independent voters have swung significantly toward Clinton since last week's debate.

A new Quinnipiac University poll shows Clinton up five points overall -- a number that is close to her average lead in the Real Clear Politics average and is four points bigger than her one-point lead in a Quinnipiac poll conducted just before the debate.

The big reason she's extended her lead: Independent voters. In the Q poll conducted Sept. 22-25, Trump led them by 7 points, 42-35, and in a poll two weeks prior, he led them by 5.

But in the new poll, conducted Monday through Wednesday of this week, Clinton has asserted a 14-point lead among this previously Trump-friendly group, 46-32.

And if you exclude third-party candidates, Clinton has turned a four-point deficit before the debate into a 20-point lead, 57-37 -- a net shift of 24 points.

Dee88's avatarDee88

It's just another distraction to take the heat off of Hillary about her new e mail issues.... It's also funny how this video came out about Trump right before the next debate and also Hillary's emails.. I wouldn't be surprised down the road that it comes out that Hillary was behind this video coming out about Trump just so she gets elected...

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 8, 2016

I just watched the apology video. I'm fine with that. The key words that stood out to me were that he's 

traveled the country talking to people and that his travels have changed him. He never had to care or

focus on what was important to the American people, Hillary did. It was her responsibility to get in there

and not only talk a good talk but fight the good fight. She didn't. Trump is now in a position to care and 

take the matters that affect us and our country to heart. He has no agenda but to change things for our

benefit. He has no eye on becoming powerful, I do not see that in him. I see that in Hillary though and her

goal is to become most powerful. That's very dangerous and considering her actions over the past 30 or so

years in the public spotlight, does it really matter to anyone what Trump said 10 years ago? It has nothing 

to do with the world or where we are today. Snide, cutting, vulgar, distasteful remarks fill our world on a

daily basis..this forum is just one example..it doesn't change my world or anyone's else's. It's wrong but

we get back on track to what's important. Anyone in Washington who is shocked and making statements

about what he said better hope someone doesn't have a video or witness or marred past that will ever come

out about them. I'm sure almost 100% of them have been in the same shoes at some point in their life.

Very good points dr65, I have 3 brothers and have heard worse, I guarantee what Trump said has been uttered by many.

When people are entering political life they put on a show, the public life, the private life.

Trump was being  guy with a guy, and the sleaze who recorded a private conversation, held on to it like a trophy for years, then leaked it, is a person who is more disgusting then a few lewd remarks.

If you ever read the blogs here, we got 2 members, Hillary loving sheeple, they constantly call me whore and streetwalker, that's  why I only respond to safe blogs now.

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 8, 2016

If Hillary is elected, if you think Bill won't be involved in policy decisions, then you are very naive. In a sense, Bill is running for office. He is a former president. He will advise Hillary.

If she is elected, we get both.

That's very true, anyone that can remember Billyboy running for office

must remember him  saying "you get two for one...meaning him and Ill..ary !

Dee88's avatarDee88

  They just had on Fox News that Paul Ryan wants Trump to step down and put Mike Pence on the ticket...all because of this video... REALLY!!   but what Hillary has done to this country and all these new e mails coming out and they don't want her to step down... something is wrong with this picture...

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 8, 2016

It's just another distraction to take the heat off of Hillary about her new e mail issues.... It's also funny how this video came out about Trump right before the next debate and also Hillary's emails.. I wouldn't be surprised down the road that it comes out that Hillary was behind this video coming out about Trump just so she gets elected...

Dee, you mentioned something about Ryan...I wonder what, or who he has in his closet. And who cares if they

uninvited Trump? He needs to keep pushing here for what really is important. It's all of us and I give it to him

for driving on. Hillary is still going but needs to be held up by media, campaign cronies, big bucks, the President 

and anyone else she can mislead and confuse. Heck, she even needs to be held up physically, that's pretty sad.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 8, 2016

Very good points dr65, I have 3 brothers and have heard worse, I guarantee what Trump said has been uttered by many.

When people are entering political life they put on a show, the public life, the private life.

Trump was being  guy with a guy, and the sleaze who recorded a private conversation, held on to it like a trophy for years, then leaked it, is a person who is more disgusting then a few lewd remarks.

If you ever read the blogs here, we got 2 members, Hillary loving sheeple, they constantly call me whore and streetwalker, that's  why I only respond to safe blogs now.

That is why people should not support Hillary. She and all her supporters demean and harass women and think it is ok. I 'd take my chances with Trump vs someone that will set this country back a hundred years.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 8, 2016

  They just had on Fox News that Paul Ryan wants Trump to step down and put Mike Pence on the ticket...all because of this video... REALLY!!   but what Hillary has done to this country and all these new e mails coming out and they don't want her to step down... something is wrong with this picture...

Screw Paul Ryan, he's establishment.  He's part of the problem in DC.  I like Mike Pence and think he was an excellent choice but I also think this country needs someone like Trump right now.  IMO he's the right man at the right time.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 8, 2016

Screw Paul Ryan, he's establishment.  He's part of the problem in DC.  I like Mike Pence and think he was an excellent choice but I also think this country needs someone like Trump right now.  IMO he's the right man at the right time.

Yeah, agreed. I like Pence a whole lot and they're going to even each other out, perfect team. We need a strong Trump for

a strong America. If the sissy's who are resistant to or afraid of change don't like it, too bad.

US Flag

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

The moderators in Sunday's debate are going after Trump on this video.  Hope he's prepared.  He needs to focus on the real problems this country faces and ignore the attacks.  He apologized, that should end it.  Bill Clinton actually raped women before he was elected President and the media knew about it, did they care?  No.

bigbear29

Ryan is correct, but it is too late for trump to step down.  Wow!  Only in the republican party, DANG!

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 8, 2016

Trump came on to apologize and he brings up Bill Clinton, stating that Bill Clinton has done worse.  You apologize and than you move on.  You don't bring up Bill Clinton.  Trump is a idiot.

I Agree!..If you caught being an adulterer,  you don't tell the wife " well Fred next door did the same thing & much worse".. hey, you created your own hellhole, don't compare it to someone else's.. l guess this means Trump will not be bringing up Bill's sordid history with women at any of the remaining debates. ..bummer. 

bigbear29

Ayotte calls Trump’s lewd comments about women ‘totally inappropriate, offensive’:

Sen. Kelly Ayotte on Friday evening called Donald Trump’s 2005 lewd comments about women “totally inappropriate and offensive,” but did not pull back her support for the GOP presidential nominee.

And today's twitter from Ayotte: 

16 mins ago - View on Twitter
I will not vote for Donald Trump
DANG!!!!
bigbear29

Republicans distance selves from Trump, call for him to quit, after damaging video:

Top Republicans are distancing themselves from Donald Trump following the release of a damaging 2005 audio tape where the GOP nominee can be heardmaking lewd comments about women.

Some Republicans are going as far as to call for Trump to end his White House bid.

The two-highest-ranking Capitol Hill Republicans -- Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan -- chastised Trump for his lewd comments on the tape about women.

“I am sickened by what I heard,” Ryan, Wisconsin, said Friday night after the tape was released and before Trump apologized. “Women are to be championed and revered, not objectified.”

Ryan, who already had an uneasy political relationship with Trump, also said the nominee will no longer join him at an annual GOP-unity rally Saturday in Wisconsin, which GOP vice-presidential nominee Mike Pence is now scheduled to attend.

"These comments are repugnant and unacceptable in any circumstance," said McConnell, who like Ryan has endorsed Trump, a first-time candidate whose earlier comments about women and immigrants have been a drag on his campaign.

 

Again, say it with me, DANG!!!!!

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 8, 2016

  They just had on Fox News that Paul Ryan wants Trump to step down and put Mike Pence on the ticket...all because of this video... REALLY!!   but what Hillary has done to this country and all these new e mails coming out and they don't want her to step down... something is wrong with this picture...

What do you mean by something is wrong here? Ryan is 3rd in line to the Pesidency, he knows what his talking about since he sets the agenda for the party.  At this point Trump may well be cancer as the standard bearer. What are you thinking? I say give Pence a shot, or would you roll the dice on Cruz?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 8, 2016

Republicans distance selves from Trump, call for him to quit, after damaging video:

Top Republicans are distancing themselves from Donald Trump following the release of a damaging 2005 audio tape where the GOP nominee can be heardmaking lewd comments about women.

Some Republicans are going as far as to call for Trump to end his White House bid.

The two-highest-ranking Capitol Hill Republicans -- Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan -- chastised Trump for his lewd comments on the tape about women.

“I am sickened by what I heard,” Ryan, Wisconsin, said Friday night after the tape was released and before Trump apologized. “Women are to be championed and revered, not objectified.”

Ryan, who already had an uneasy political relationship with Trump, also said the nominee will no longer join him at an annual GOP-unity rally Saturday in Wisconsin, which GOP vice-presidential nominee Mike Pence is now scheduled to attend.

"These comments are repugnant and unacceptable in any circumstance," said McConnell, who like Ryan has endorsed Trump, a first-time candidate whose earlier comments about women and immigrants have been a drag on his campaign.

 

Again, say it with me, DANG!!!!!

What the heck does the word " distance" mean?  You either cut the cord or stick with the person. If l stepped out on the wife,  believe you me, there is no distancing that is taking place. She is GONE.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 8, 2016

Yeah, agreed. I like Pence a whole lot and they're going to even each other out, perfect team. We need a strong Trump for

a strong America. If the sissy's who are resistant to or afraid of change don't like it, too bad.

US Flag

Whose we?

bigbear29

Republicans are getting away from trump.

bigbear29

Good news!  There's more trump videos coming.  DANG!

DANG!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 8, 2016

Hilda's and Barry both have fictional followings.  They say Barry has a 50% approval rating but I can't find

even a hand full of people that don't hate him and his policies.   Look at Hilda's events, I see maybe 100

people in attendance most of the time and I bet many of them work for her.   Voting fraud is going to be

big this year and if Hilda's support was real then why would they need it.   Trump is rude, crude and a few

other things that make him hard to take but so what.  Hilda is a thieving, lying, two faced, money grubbing,

misleading, power hungry, man hating, self centered, anti-american, devil worshipping,  email shredding,

back door dealing,  anti-law and order, grossly negligent,  truthfully challenged, open border loving, wall

street champion, lobbyist supporting, spirit conjuring, Bernie burning, back stabbing, moral less, seizure

ridden,  "Sign of demonic possession",  Witch. 

 

Joe Nichols - Brokenheartsville   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJtA-KqK_Lo

 

She wears that big ol wig to cover up her horns.

Sweet talking forked tongue with a wicked charm.

When she left the stage, they had to hold her arms

Please tell me Lord, that it won't be long.

 

Cheers to the past, Hilda kiss my ass

I hope were finished with you.

Here's to the girl bent on wrecking our world

Another devil who wants to do us in

 

I think the devil has a hubby named Bill

We all thought that we were over that hill. 

We've no time to kill, gives me a chill

Down in Brokenhilda'sville

 

It's not to long till we hit the box

might be full of fraud but might be not

When you cast your vote then wave good by   

to a corrupted system that can't survive.

 

Cheers to the past, Hilda kiss my ass

I hope were finished with you.

Here's to the girl bent on wrecking our world

Another devil who wants to do us in

 

RL

Poor lost soul doesn't even know about the Trump tapes.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 8, 2016

What's worse?  What Trump said 11 years ago or what Hillary did as SOS?  Actions speak louder than words.  Only the feeble minded will let this video of Trump sway their vote.

"What's worse?"

You'll have to ask Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and all the other Republican Senators and Representatives why they coming out against Trump. They won't vote for Clinton, but the "no" votes will get her elected.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

This video was a different time, situation, place.   The timing is suspicious, someone else mentioned why was this recorded only to be brought out now. Yes, it is vile and repulsive but if you ever spent time in <snip>tail lounges and bars you have heard this and worse.  Not making excuses for Trump, he apologized, move on, get elected and turn our country around for ALL.

MY VOTE IS STILL TRUMP.   Consider the alternative.

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lejardin's avatarlejardin

The Republicans coming out against Trump imo, were never in full support of him so this comes as no surprise, after all they are self-serving establishment politicians who only care about retaining THEIR seats.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 8, 2016

"What's worse?"

You'll have to ask Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and all the other Republican Senators and Representatives why they coming out against Trump. They won't vote for Clinton, but the "no" votes will get her elected.

I consider those Republicans establishment RINO's.  They're the ones who said:

"We need the House to stop obamacare".  So we gave them the House and what did they do?  Nothing.

"We need the Senate to stop obama's illegal amnesty".  So we gave them the Senate and what did they do?  Nothing.

 Guess they don't care about the future Supreme Court picks.  Screw them.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 8, 2016

Good news!  There's more trump videos coming.  DANG!

DANG!

Here's a Hillary video... Enjoy.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 8, 2016

This video was a different time, situation, place.   The timing is suspicious, someone else mentioned why was this recorded only to be brought out now. Yes, it is vile and repulsive but if you ever spent time in <snip>tail lounges and bars you have heard this and worse.  Not making excuses for Trump, he apologized, move on, get elected and turn our country around for ALL.

MY VOTE IS STILL TRUMP.   Consider the alternative.

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You're preaching to what's becoming a very small choir. There are 247 Republican House seats up for grabs and 24 Senate seats and it's not like Trump was leading in the polls before this mass exodus.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 8, 2016

Please note I support Trump. Anyone is better than Hillary. But, no offense, you are not out in the workforce every day so your view is different. You send risque photos of yourself in bikinis to lp people you do not even know. I have received a couple and was more than a little uncomfortable and am not the only lp member who felt that way.Teach your son to judge a woman by her brains and heart, and not her body. You are supporting and reinforcing a bigoted sexist lp member who thinks calling someone Miss Piggy...in a worldwide setting , is "funny." This is the same fool who said who cares about professionally educated women and everyone is equal. Really???? I have great respect for the lp members who say Trump is not perfect but he is way better than the alternative. These guys do not rally around Trump's negative comments on women and dismiss it as locker room talk and I appreciate that fact. Trashing women in a public setting is Not trash talk or locker room talk but I am hoping Trump can evolve in that area. But when an extremist like that Greenbay moron, latches on to one of Trump's more "colorful" statements and extrapolates it a 100 fold and uses it treat any lp woman like they are third class citizens, be concerned.

First of all, I was simply agreeing with LiveInGreenBay about Trump's private trashy conversation with Billy Bush while Bill Clinton Actually

assaulted women...I don't condone either but there is a big difference the two.

I have no clue how you you got the idea I was supporting a bigoted, sexist LP member because I never made any reference to it.

A picture of me taken from a side angle, jumping into a lake with my son is far from risque and I apologize if it offended anyone. We were among a group of friends and absolutely no one (both guys and gals) objected.

When at the beach or boating I am not alone when opting to wear a bikini while some may elect to wear a full body burqa as that is their choice, I'm not ashamed of my body and quite frankly couldn't care less what people think.

My son is four years old and I believe he is doing just fine with the qualities we have instilled in him, he is years away from being taught how to form an opinion of women so we will address that issue at the appropriate time.

He currently chooses his friends based on compatibility and not whether they have brains, beauty or brawn.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 8, 2016

I consider those Republicans establishment RINO's.  They're the ones who said:

"We need the House to stop obamacare".  So we gave them the House and what did they do?  Nothing.

"We need the Senate to stop obama's illegal amnesty".  So we gave them the Senate and what did they do?  Nothing.

 Guess they don't care about the future Supreme Court picks.  Screw them.

If you think about it, the Republican leadership never wanted Trump to be the nominee in the first place. Their strategy not Trump's created an environment where it was just a matter of time before they started jumping ship.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 8, 2016

Whose we?

It's pretty obvious Dr65 was referencing Trump supporters. What is it about Hillary supporters that they can't seem to understand?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Oct 8, 2016

First of all, I was simply agreeing with LiveInGreenBay about Trump's private trashy conversation with Billy Bush while Bill Clinton Actually

assaulted women...I don't condone either but there is a big difference the two.

I have no clue how you you got the idea I was supporting a bigoted, sexist LP member because I never made any reference to it.

A picture of me taken from a side angle, jumping into a lake with my son is far from risque and I apologize if it offended anyone. We were among a group of friends and absolutely no one (both guys and gals) objected.

When at the beach or boating I am not alone when opting to wear a bikini while some may elect to wear a full body burqa as that is their choice, I'm not ashamed of my body and quite frankly couldn't care less what people think.

My son is four years old and I believe he is doing just fine with the qualities we have instilled in him, he is years away from being taught how to form an opinion of women so we will address that issue at the appropriate time.

He currently chooses his friends based on compatibility and not whether they have brains, beauty or brawn.

Actually you have sent me multiple pics of you in a bikini and to a number of lp members.  Lol I am a female in case you do not know. Still think it is odd. Many lp members have shared pics with me but none on your level. I guess you were fiishing for compliments. Just not my game dear.  I prefer intelligent conversations. I guess you do not get it and never will.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 8, 2016

Actually you have sent me multiple pics of you in a bikini and to a number of lp members.  Lol I am a female in case you do not know. Still think it is odd. Many lp members have shared pics with me but none on your level. I guess you were fiishing for compliments. Just not my game dear.  I prefer intelligent conversations. I guess you do not get it and never will.

I apologized to you for a previous post and got no reply.  Actually I take that apology back after reading this post.  In My Opinion you are an east coast feminist snowflake SNOB.  I really doubt you ever had a boyfriend let alone a husband.  I appreciate you are voting for Trump but I still would never consider someone like you as a friend.  Enjoy your life for what that's worth.  HONEY

BTW I'm not a moron.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 8, 2016

The Republicans coming out against Trump imo, were never in full support of him so this comes as no surprise, after all they are self-serving establishment politicians who only care about retaining THEIR seats.

Exactly. Even with the political party difference, they still will get much further ahead with Hillary in the White House.

That includes personally and politically. 

Trump is in no one's pocket.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 8, 2016

Exactly. Even with the political party difference, they still will get much further ahead with Hillary in the White House.

That includes personally and politically. 

Trump is in no one's pocket.

Did you watch the Clinton Cash video I posted on the previous page?  If we had a real media in this country they'd be in prison by now.  Hillary is a <snip>.

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Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 8, 2016

I apologized to you for a previous post and got no reply.  Actually I take that apology back after reading this post.  In My Opinion you are an east coast feminist snowflake SNOB.  I really doubt you ever had a boyfriend let alone a husband.  I appreciate you are voting for Trump but I still would never consider someone like you as a friend.  Enjoy your life for what that's worth.  HONEY

BTW I'm not a moron.

I knew it. Lol. I knew you were insincere. Of course, I was speaking to Internet safety and common sense. Dumb as ever. Now you are trying to disparage women more. It it is a fact of life that most men would consider bikini shots sent to them by a woman they never met to be flirtatious or a comeon. Let's be honest here.

I did a survey of multiple men and women friends and work colleagues and ALL said they would view a woman (whom they never met and had no connection to) doing this as looking for "more." Fact of life. One colleague said if his wife was doing something like this with STRANGERS,  they would be headed for a divorce. Yes, you are a moron. I feel badly for your spouse, if you have one. My bet is that you have been divorced multiple times.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Unless TRUMP has a blu stained dress worn by Sextary Clinton in his possession then

he should keep his M-outh shut...about sex

                       DanceBananaJack-in-the-BoxBananaDance

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 8, 2016

Exactly. Even with the political party difference, they still will get much further ahead with Hillary in the White House.

That includes personally and politically. 

Trump is in no one's pocket.

"Trump is in no one's pocket."

Forget pockets, Trump himself talked about groping women. LOL

What lame excuses will you give when Trump's mob connections are known?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Oct 8, 2016

It's pretty obvious Dr65 was referencing Trump supporters. What is it about Hillary supporters that they can't seem to understand?

Barking up the wrong tree D. l am not a Hillary supporter, if you look at my posts- you will see that  l am hoping for the Best candidate to win. If that turns out to be Trump, so be it. The so called " Strong Leader" people especially republicans  are looking for often get us into WAR. l freaking mean it. The last time we had a so called strong leader- we got into a war that we cannot extricate ourselves from. Goodness grief- Heads up:  The U.S. war in Afghanistan began in October 2001 and it became the longest war in American history several years ago. Then we had it spill into Iraq. l am  so freaking tired of the so called " we need strong leaders who end up sending sons & daughters into battle and leaving office only to hand the reins over to the next president. From my lips to your ears .. F  these so called strong leaders.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 8, 2016

The Republicans coming out against Trump imo, were never in full support of him so this comes as no surprise, after all they are self-serving establishment politicians who only care about retaining THEIR seats.

Whose fault is that? When Trump was going after Obama for the birthier thing- the republicans were pretty silent, rubbing their hands in glee. They created this situation by enabling him to say and get away with just about anything. When he went after McCain, they started to hiccup and now that his the standard bearer of the party they trying to " distance themselves?".. BS  This monster was created in a Repub Lab and has now been unleashed. Live with it.

bigbear29

I like to make one correct, in trump's case, strong leader with no brains, and that is worse.  Bush was a strong leader/cowboy, but he had some brains.  Trump is the only person that will tweet us into a war.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 8, 2016

Here's a Hillary video... Enjoy.

So who do you think should have possession of the Nuclear Codes...Trump or Clinton?

Image result for choose wisely raiders of the lost ark

bigbear29

Clinton, because she would work with other people to make the final decision.  Trump can not even work with his own campaign team.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Geez. Really Artist???

For what it's worth, she sent me pics of herself and her son fully clothed, and a pic of her in a bikini and her son in a bathing suit when they were out in a boat on the lake. I am a man. I did not think anything of it. If she had been swimming with all of her clothes on, now I would have thought that strange. Really Artist, you are making something out of nothing here. Do you have self image issues?

Oh, and I did compliment her......about her son.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 8, 2016

I knew it. Lol. I knew you were insincere. Of course, I was speaking to Internet safety and common sense. Dumb as ever. Now you are trying to disparage women more. It it is a fact of life that most men would consider bikini shots sent to them by a woman they never met to be flirtatious or a comeon. Let's be honest here.

I did a survey of multiple men and women friends and work colleagues and ALL said they would view a woman (whom they never met and had no connection to) doing this as looking for "more." Fact of life. One colleague said if his wife was doing something like this with STRANGERS,  they would be headed for a divorce. Yes, you are a moron. I feel badly for your spouse, if you have one. My bet is that you have been divorced multiple times.

Insincere?  Where was your acknowledgement of my apology?  You're the insincere one  You did a survey at work regarding a post on this thread?  Really?  Don't you consider that kind of weird?   As I stated earlier, you're a typical east coast liberal feminist snob.  Lets leave it at that.  Remember this... If it weren't for men, you wouldn't be here.

bigbear29

History has been made!  Trump is the only person to be asked to dropout of the presidential race.  DANG!

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 8, 2016

Insincere?  Where was your acknowledgement of my apology?  You're the insincere one  You did a survey at work regarding a post on this thread?  Really?  Don't you consider that kind of weird?   As I stated earlier, you're a typical east coast liberal feminist snob.  Lets leave it at that.  Remember this... If it weren't for men, you wouldn't be here.

 Hep me, tel me, LIGB....who taught U bout the apple tree, the cabbage patch and Blue Angelmother nature. My mama told me the Batdropped me in the backyard on dark nite  and showed me pictures Batof this on the cover of my Rolln-Stone baby book....Jester

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 8, 2016

What do you mean by something is wrong here? Ryan is 3rd in line to the Pesidency, he knows what his talking about since he sets the agenda for the party.  At this point Trump may well be cancer as the standard bearer. What are you thinking? I say give Pence a shot, or would you roll the dice on Cruz?

   I don't care what number in line and what he does as far as Paul Ryan goes...... he is a complete "A" hole if you ask me... someone released this video on purpose with 2 days to go before this debate.. and Hillary's e-mails go into the shadows and all the attention is on Trump right now... and you ask me  "what am I thinking"... what are you thinking ?

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 8, 2016

Whose fault is that? When Trump was going after Obama for the birthier thing- the republicans were pretty silent, rubbing their hands in glee. They created this situation by enabling him to say and get away with just about anything. When he went after McCain, they started to hiccup and now that his the standard bearer of the party they trying to " distance themselves?".. BS  This monster was created in a Repub Lab and has now been unleashed. Live with it.

I made a comment, and don't believe I placed blame on anybody.  It is immaterial how it was started or created, my choice is still Trump, and is a much better choice than hillary/bill.

So yes I will LIVE WITH IT.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I  heard worse stuff everyday back when I was in high school.   I for one am not shocked over

this one bit and would bet big money that he has made similar comments thousands of times

over the years.   Big deal, women say things in private that they would never want made public.

The timing of this comes at a time when Hilda has some hard questions she needs to give an

account for.  The liberal news is over playing this in hopes it will draw attention away form yet

another Clinton scandal.   IMHO, only the weak minded are giving this a second thought.

RL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 8, 2016

   I don't care what number in line and what he does as far as Paul Ryan goes...... he is a complete "A" hole if you ask me... someone released this video on purpose with 2 days to go before this debate.. and Hillary's e-mails go into the shadows and all the attention is on Trump right now... and you ask me  "what am I thinking"... what are you thinking ?

l know what l am thinking, l always do. Your question was "  what has Hillary has done to this country"... which is what exactly? Please for the love of God, do not talk about Benghazi- thousands of American lives have been lost on the last republican  President's watch. You know exactly who l am talking about.The last time l looked, Hillary has Never been President. The last time l checked, a SOS carries out the orders of the President, that individual does not MAKE policy up on a whim but you could not tell that from the " she has done this and  done that". Fact: Ryan was asked, almost begged to take the job of speaker of the House- now that his turned his back on your standard bearer you finding fault with Ryan?.. the question remains : What are you thinking?

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 8, 2016

I  heard worse stuff everyday back when I was in high school.   I for one am not shocked over

this one bit and would bet big money that he has made similar comments thousands of times

over the years.   Big deal, women say things in private that they would never want made public.

The timing of this comes at a time when Hilda has some hard questions she needs to give an

account for.  The liberal news is over playing this in hopes it will draw attention away form yet

another Clinton scandal.   IMHO, only the weak minded are giving this a second thought.

RL

I absolutely agree.  Most of my working days was with men and I think I have heard everything.  And that is not to say men are the only ones making nasty comments. 

“He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone.”

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 8, 2016

I made a comment, and don't believe I placed blame on anybody.  It is immaterial how it was started or created, my choice is still Trump, and is a much better choice than hillary/bill.

So yes I will LIVE WITH IT.

You can choose whoever you want. This calling Ryan and other repub politicians rino's etc is BS These folks were elected by republicans in their districts.

Image result for eat their young

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I think that Trump knew he would not have a chance if he ran as a independent but chose to run on the republican

ticket because of what the powers that be are trying to do.   America is in deep $hit and I am all in for Trump.  My

biggest fear is letting those in power who have a agenda that does not play towards Americas sovereignty.  The US

has been a thorn in the side to a so called "elite" group of globalist.  The plan is to divided the world into 4 main 

regions but before they can to do this US sovereignty has to be done away with.   We are well under way to this end

but it's not too late if we act now.   Both parties are trying to tear a riff between we the people as a nation divided

cannot stand.  Trump is a independent running on the republican but he is not devoted to the GOP.   This is the reason

several republicans do not support him.   I would urge voters to look very closely at the people running for governor, reps

and senate along with attorney general, judges etc in the upcoming election.

RL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 8, 2016

I  heard worse stuff everyday back when I was in high school.   I for one am not shocked over

this one bit and would bet big money that he has made similar comments thousands of times

over the years.   Big deal, women say things in private that they would never want made public.

The timing of this comes at a time when Hilda has some hard questions she needs to give an

account for.  The liberal news is over playing this in hopes it will draw attention away form yet

another Clinton scandal.   IMHO, only the weak minded are giving this a second thought.

RL

After checking the last count, both Senators and several Reps in many states have now disavowed Trump. It's no longer about Clinton or even Johnson; Trump's past caught up with him and lots of Republicans are calling for Trump to step down. Why even bother saying it on LP when it's obvious you have no chance of convincing people to vote for Trump?

"IMHO, only the weak minded are giving this a second thought."

Thanks for explaining why Trump loves the "poorly educated".

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 8, 2016

I think that Trump knew he would not have a chance if he ran as a independent but chose to run on the republican

ticket because of what the powers that be are trying to do.   America is in deep $hit and I am all in for Trump.  My

biggest fear is letting those in power who have a agenda that does not play towards Americas sovereignty.  The US

has been a thorn in the side to a so called "elite" group of globalist.  The plan is to divided the world into 4 main 

regions but before they can to do this US sovereignty has to be done away with.   We are well under way to this end

but it's not too late if we act now.   Both parties are trying to tear a riff between we the people as a nation divided

cannot stand.  Trump is a independent running on the republican but he is not devoted to the GOP.   This is the reason

several republicans do not support him.   I would urge voters to look very closely at the people running for governor, reps

and senate along with attorney general, judges etc in the upcoming election.

RL

RL,

Hillary is not in this for anything but herself. It's all about power. You're right, Trump is not devoted to the GOP. I'm not either. I'm sick of politicians that do nothing but make careers out of politics but don't do anything. I think Trump for all his warts (like Hillary doesn't have any warts herself) really wants to make America great again, and the fact he is not beholden to anybody or anybody's money. I laughed when I read that Repubs may withhold funding. Trump probably doesn't give a rats ass if they do. He's got money. He's going to run on his terms.

Bottom line...Hillary is crooked. Hillary is a liar. She is not good for America.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Stack

 

"Thanks for explaining why Trump loves the "poorly educated."  Really???

 

    Look at all the street people who support Hilda, I think it would take at least 6 of them to have the number of years

of education needed for a high school degree.  Not saying that the combined knowledge would be equal to a HS degree

just the number of years. 

 

    Your unwanted views attest to your lack of intellectual abilities.  I bet many are tempted to pass on you infinite words

of knowledge to restroom stalls.  "For a good laugh, read stack."

 

RL

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 8, 2016

Stack

 

"Thanks for explaining why Trump loves the "poorly educated."  Really???

 

    Look at all the street people who support Hilda, I think it would take at least 6 of them to have the number of years

of education needed for a high school degree.  Not saying that the combined knowledge would be equal to a HS degree

just the number of years. 

 

    Your unwanted views attest to your lack of intellectual abilities.  I bet many are tempted to pass on you infinite words

of knowledge to restroom stalls.  "For a good laugh, read stack."

 

RL

Sad Cheers

noise-gate

As always an Opinion. Lets take a look at this shall we..

 

Cost of Child Care

Trump: Working parents - and parents who stay home to care for children - can deduct the costs on their taxes via the Earned Income Tax Credit. The campaign estimates that middle class families could receive a $1,200 tax break.

Trump also proposes a Dependent Care Savings Account that allow the accumulation of funds and are tax deductible and appreciate tax free. Dependent care accounts already exist but must be used by the end of the year and only available through an employer.

Clinton: She wants to cap child care costs at ten percent of a family's income. To do that, she'd rely on tax cuts or state block grants for the government to subsidize costs exceeding ten percent.

and finally...

What It Means

Experts say that Trump's plan is a good start and a recognition that the issue is important to women and families, but Vivien Labaton, co-executive director of Make It Work Action, said Trump's plan offers less than Clinton's.

"His childcare proposal is really designed for the Ivanka Trump's of the country more than the working families who need help," Labaton said.

She said any plan, including Trump's, that offers a tax rebate won't work for many lower income families. Many struggling families don't make enough to pay taxes and other struggling families who do pay taxes need up-front relief up before tax time.

"Clinton's plan goes much further in calling for a much larger investment in child care," Labaton said. "There are still details to learn about her plan but she seems to recognize the crisis that it is."

Labaton would like Trump to also address the low wages of caregivers, something Clinton has talked about but not given specific solutions.

Only in it for herself?

noise-gate

And this real doozie...

Trump said he might use nuclear weapons and questioned why we would make them if we wouldn’t use them.Argue

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 8, 2016

And this real doozie...

Trump said he might use nuclear weapons and questioned why we would make them if we wouldn’t use them.Argue

That's not what he said, He said he wouldn't take them off the table because other countries have them, big FREAKING DIFFERENCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

noise-gate

 and this is the transcript Sully..as always an Opinion.

MATTHEWS: Where would we drop?—?where would we drop a nuclear weapon in the Middle East?
TRUMP: Let me explain. Let me explain.
Somebody hits us within ISIS?—?you wouldn`t fight back with a nuke?
MATTHEWS: OK. The trouble is, when you said that, the whole world heard it. David Cameron in Britain heard it. The Japanese, where we bombed them in 45, heard it. They`re hearing a guy running for president of the United States talking of maybe using nuclear weapons. Nobody wants to hear that about an American president.
TRUMP: Then why are we making them? Why do we make them?....... ....There, There.
[MSNBC, March 30, 2016]

 

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 8, 2016

Stack

 

"Thanks for explaining why Trump loves the "poorly educated."  Really???

 

    Look at all the street people who support Hilda, I think it would take at least 6 of them to have the number of years

of education needed for a high school degree.  Not saying that the combined knowledge would be equal to a HS degree

just the number of years. 

 

    Your unwanted views attest to your lack of intellectual abilities.  I bet many are tempted to pass on you infinite words

of knowledge to restroom stalls.  "For a good laugh, read stack."

 

RL

"Your unwanted views attest to your lack of intellectual abilities."

It's obvious you're still in denial and just can't understand what it means when over 140 past and present elected Governors, Senators, and U.S. Reps say they won't support or vote for Trump. But by all means continue.

Seriously, how much are you betting that Trump will win the election?

ROFL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 8, 2016

And this real doozie...

Trump said he might use nuclear weapons and questioned why we would make them if we wouldn’t use them.Argue

I quote Trump saying "I love the poorly educated", "John McCain isn't a war hero", and could quote what Trump talking to Billy Bush, but some of our LP Trump supporters will still say I'm lying.

We can quote Trump word for word, give a link showing a video where he said it, or quote Senators, Governors, and Reps saying they will no longer support and will not vote for Trump, but it has no effect on them. What am I missing?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 8, 2016

 and this is the transcript Sully..as always an Opinion.

MATTHEWS: Where would we drop?—?where would we drop a nuclear weapon in the Middle East?
TRUMP: Let me explain. Let me explain.
Somebody hits us within ISIS?—?you wouldn`t fight back with a nuke?
MATTHEWS: OK. The trouble is, when you said that, the whole world heard it. David Cameron in Britain heard it. The Japanese, where we bombed them in 45, heard it. They`re hearing a guy running for president of the United States talking of maybe using nuclear weapons. Nobody wants to hear that about an American president.
TRUMP: Then why are we making them? Why do we make them?....... ....There, There.
[MSNBC, March 30, 2016]

 

You are still taking this out of context, what you are failing to convey was the way it was said, Tone!

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 9, 2016

You are still taking this out of context, what you are failing to convey was the way it was said, Tone!

The context is right there, in the quote.

No tone to nuclear warfare. Especially no flippant one.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 8, 2016

And this real doozie...

Trump said he might use nuclear weapons and questioned why we would make them if we wouldn’t use them.Argue

Hey noise-gate... I'd rather have a President say that than... "We will never use nuclear weapons".  Think about it.

bigbear29

It may be good to have a small stock pile of nuclear weapons, but you don't ever want to use them.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 9, 2016

It may be good to have a small stock pile of nuclear weapons, but you don't ever want to use them.

No one said they wanted to use them.  Who in their right mind wants to use weapons like that?   Iran?  North Korea?  The terrorists?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Stack

   I think he has a better chance then Hilda but that belief is based on common sense which does not take into account

people like you.  IMHO our entire government is running a scam on the people.  They poison the waters of information

so that people are scared.   They use this fear then make suggestions how to fix the problem they themselves created. 

The solution always has a small catch, "we only have to give up a few of our freedoms for it to work."  Most are clueless

to which freedoms have already been tossed away??? 

   Like it or not the US constitution along with the bill of rights is the Alpha law that all other laws must adhere to, at least

it use to be.   Obama is a lawyer and uses trickery to get around our constitution.  We as US citizens have the right to bear

arms.  The intent was and is that we the people must be able to stop government oppression. 

   Obama wants our guns, Hilda wants our guns and they will do anything to get them.   They blame guns for all the killings

when it's failure of leadership that's responsible.   Some people want a government to tell them what is best.  I want a

government that defends my constitutional rights. 

   Here we have the main divide.  One is willing to give up all their freedoms and the other is willing to fight to keep them. 

In past times I would not vote for Trump but right now there is an attack going on that is far worse than ISIS and it comes

from within.   Trump was a insider and he knows their plans, he was even part of of the corrupt system himself but something

happened that made him step away.

   

RL

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 8, 2016

Did you watch the Clinton Cash video I posted on the previous page?  If we had a real media in this country they'd be in prison by now.  Hillary is a <snip>.

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I sure did GreenBay ty! and everyone should watch and explain how they are alright with what those criminals did

with hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars in donations...$2 Billion dollars total!!! Where is it?

Haiti is again faced with disaster. The death toll there is tremendous. The money that poured in for the earthquake 16 years

ago went to almost everything but helping those people. They got tarps while elites got luxury hotels. 

What will the treacherous Clinton Foundation do now? Lay low until after the debate? Or after the election? They are set for 

life. Everything from here on in is more money making opportunities or just another item to check off on the list of things to

achieve. Among the many, many offensive things HillBilly did in their time, one of the most offensive and callous statements

I remember was - her and Bill left the White House broke. Are you kidding me?? They do not know what broke is and never 

will. Let them live as the many people they were supposed to help do then try and tell me that. The Clintons are on a power

high. They would not do well living in the poorest nations or the poorest cities in the US..the big difference between them

and the people they claim to aid is that you can take everything away from them and they still have spirit. HillBilly only has

spirit because of what they have and who they are...take it away and they have absolutely nothing left. How can anyone like

that relate to people in need? She's had great chances in Washington to stand above the rest and get things done. Now she's

trying to mislead everyone again just how great she was and how wonderful she will be. Don't fall for the lies and corruption

people, everyone talks about voting the crooks who do nothing for us out...Hiilary is one of the biggest crooks alive. Don't

vote her in, then you don't have to worry about voting her out.

Debate tonight...this should be very, very interesting. Trump needs to dump the goods on her. There is plenty out there.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Never understood the big deal about Trump saying he loved the poorly educated. Read the beatitudes of Jesus sometime.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Trump goes out to the average person making his case while Hilda throws dinners for #250,000.00 per plate.

Who pays $250K for one meal?  I wonder how many on her guest list were people who got rich standing up

for the common man or woman.

 

Hilda says Trump is a not trustworthy and is not presidential material while her entire past is riddled in scandal.

Many of these scandals would have led to prison had the evidence not been destroyed, deleted, lost or laws

passed making it untouchable.  Why go through all that trouble if it was above board.  I am amazed how many

are willing to pass on those things and condemn Trump for not releasing his taxes having been advised by his

attorney not to do so. 

 

Some condemn Trump for not giving exact details about his policies,  It's not too smart IMHO to believe that any

policy can be written in stone.  Look at Obama care as a prime example.  He changed it so many times that it's

nothing what people expected.  He also managed to inject a little gun control into it.  How deceiving is that???

 

Bill, Obama, Hilda and I could name others that say one thing and do something else and it's beyond me how

anyone would believe anything they say.  Look at how Hilda confronts the email scandal, first play it down to

dimwittedness then in the next breath talk about how we need to tackle security issues.  I know how to fix

some of the problems, stop giving dimwits access to sensitive data.

 

Anyone who thinks that Hilda's choice to operate a private email server was for convenience must have a IQ in

the lower 50s.   I don't worry about those people voting because it's a given that they can't read the voting ballet

and might vote for Trump by mistake.  Since the convenience theory is total crap then what were left with is a

intentional act to hide what she was really up to.   If it smells like Bull$hit then it's a good bet that's what it is.

 

There is a old saying, "don't pi$$ down my back and tell me it's raining."   The way I see it, that's what the Hilda

crowd are attempting.   Crooked and corrupt are the new normals and it's easy to put them into widespread use

with the political correctness movement.   Dumb and dumber hits record highs should be the headlines if Hilda does

win in the next election. 

 

With Hilda's record there is nothing that I can think of that would change my mind about Trump given the choices

we have.   I think if the media focused on Hilda's corruption she would already be in prison.   What we need is a

flawless lie detector that blinks red until a truthful answer is given.  The test would only end when the light turned

green meaning the answer was truthful.   Anyone running for public office would be required to take the test.

 

RL

kreative1's avatarkreative1

I think Trump is experiencing something he's not used to "REALITY"
Because of his money/power he's been allowed to say and do whatever he wants.

His tape from 10 years means he was 59 at the time not some high school kid but usually as boys grow into men they are taught the respect for women because MOST women wouldn't allow it or think it's ok for them or for their daughters.
He doesn't even respect his own daughter with his comments about her, probably because other then financially he wasn't part of any of his kids life, but we should judge him by how his kids are?
I know kids who didn't have the greatest parents and grew to be successful adults and the other way around.

Just the fact that he thinks he knows more then anyone else should be a red flag, I know people like that and guess what...they don't have a clue , it's all talk and when it comes back on them they blame others. Sound familiar?

There is a reason it's called politically correct because that is what the job entails, it's the same way that most people act differently on a professional level vs personal life. 

Vote for Trump if you still believe in fairy godmothers because at a rally he said "I'm about to make all your dreams come true"

Be careful what you wish for....

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by kreative1 on Oct 9, 2016

I think Trump is experiencing something he's not used to "REALITY"
Because of his money/power he's been allowed to say and do whatever he wants.

His tape from 10 years means he was 59 at the time not some high school kid but usually as boys grow into men they are taught the respect for women because MOST women wouldn't allow it or think it's ok for them or for their daughters.
He doesn't even respect his own daughter with his comments about her, probably because other then financially he wasn't part of any of his kids life, but we should judge him by how his kids are?
I know kids who didn't have the greatest parents and grew to be successful adults and the other way around.

Just the fact that he thinks he knows more then anyone else should be a red flag, I know people like that and guess what...they don't have a clue , it's all talk and when it comes back on them they blame others. Sound familiar?

There is a reason it's called politically correct because that is what the job entails, it's the same way that most people act differently on a professional level vs personal life. 

Vote for Trump if you still believe in fairy godmothers because at a rally he said "I'm about to make all your dreams come true"

Be careful what you wish for....

Ok, I'll vote for Trump believing in fairy godmothers.

You vote for Hilly believing in lying, conniving, crooks.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by kreative1 on Oct 9, 2016

I think Trump is experiencing something he's not used to "REALITY"
Because of his money/power he's been allowed to say and do whatever he wants.

His tape from 10 years means he was 59 at the time not some high school kid but usually as boys grow into men they are taught the respect for women because MOST women wouldn't allow it or think it's ok for them or for their daughters.
He doesn't even respect his own daughter with his comments about her, probably because other then financially he wasn't part of any of his kids life, but we should judge him by how his kids are?
I know kids who didn't have the greatest parents and grew to be successful adults and the other way around.

Just the fact that he thinks he knows more then anyone else should be a red flag, I know people like that and guess what...they don't have a clue , it's all talk and when it comes back on them they blame others. Sound familiar?

There is a reason it's called politically correct because that is what the job entails, it's the same way that most people act differently on a professional level vs personal life. 

Vote for Trump if you still believe in fairy godmothers because at a rally he said "I'm about to make all your dreams come true"

Be careful what you wish for....

So you think he has never had to face reality, why would he run for president when he has more than many of us can hope for?

You must think he thought he would not be reviled, give me a break.  Running for president meant jumping into the frying pan.

I personally would never run for public office.  He could have just lived the American dream to the fullest with money to burn.

 

So you admit that money allows people to do what others may be considered criminal and get away with it.  Hope this was not

supposed to help Hilda.

 

The mind does not grow old, just the body and I hear men in their 70s and beyond talking trash in private.  Men take it with a

grain of salt as they know it has nothing to do with women.

 

Lots of kids grow into good people having come from less than desired childhoods.  After once they leave home they are more

likely to cross paths with good people than bad.  Positive role models are everywhere if one takes the time to interact.

 

Sad but true, many people are looking for someone who looks and speaks like a leader.  Some of the most highly qualified

people we have would never consider running for president.  They would appear as background clutter.  Look at any sporting

event, who gets the peoples support?   We want someone to knock out the other and if a fight ends without a knockout we

feel somehow cheated. 

 

I have known some men that were personal role models and believe me Trump would not make the cut.  Trump's ego will drive

him to succeed where Hilda will continue to deceive.

 

I will vote for Trump bu not because I believe in "fairy godmothers" but because I hate evil witches.   Bill has spoken on TV

that Hilda channels the dead looking for advice.  This makes her a witch and what I would like to know is how she is able to

confirm the person on the other end.   It's not impossible to contact the dead which is why the Bible makes it a crime punishable

by death.  The problem is that they can be deceived as there is no way to know who they are talking with.  Given her favorite 

mentor Saul Alinsky was a devil worshiping snake, I think it's you that have issues with fairy godmothers.

 

RL

Artist77's avatarArtist77

I hope Trump uses HRC's speech statement about having one position privately and one publicly. In other words, lie to the public. Trump had better run tonight with this statement.

bigbear29

Trump!

bigbear29

Kellyanne Conway is thinking about leaving trump's campaign team.  DANG!, DANG, DANG!

kreative1's avatarkreative1

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 9, 2016

So you think he has never had to face reality, why would he run for president when he has more than many of us can hope for?

You must think he thought he would not be reviled, give me a break.  Running for president meant jumping into the frying pan.

I personally would never run for public office.  He could have just lived the American dream to the fullest with money to burn.

 

So you admit that money allows people to do what others may be considered criminal and get away with it.  Hope this was not

supposed to help Hilda.

 

The mind does not grow old, just the body and I hear men in their 70s and beyond talking trash in private.  Men take it with a

grain of salt as they know it has nothing to do with women.

 

Lots of kids grow into good people having come from less than desired childhoods.  After once they leave home they are more

likely to cross paths with good people than bad.  Positive role models are everywhere if one takes the time to interact.

 

Sad but true, many people are looking for someone who looks and speaks like a leader.  Some of the most highly qualified

people we have would never consider running for president.  They would appear as background clutter.  Look at any sporting

event, who gets the peoples support?   We want someone to knock out the other and if a fight ends without a knockout we

feel somehow cheated. 

 

I have known some men that were personal role models and believe me Trump would not make the cut.  Trump's ego will drive

him to succeed where Hilda will continue to deceive.

 

I will vote for Trump bu not because I believe in "fairy godmothers" but because I hate evil witches.   Bill has spoken on TV

that Hilda channels the dead looking for advice.  This makes her a witch and what I would like to know is how she is able to

confirm the person on the other end.   It's not impossible to contact the dead which is why the Bible makes it a crime punishable

by death.  The problem is that they can be deceived as there is no way to know who they are talking with.  Given her favorite 

mentor Saul Alinsky was a devil worshiping snake, I think it's you that have issues with fairy godmothers.

 

RL

to be continued....

my steelers are on Smile

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 9, 2016

You are still taking this out of context, what you are failing to convey was the way it was said, Tone!

Tone Sully?  So as an example if Ali in the past said  " l am going to beat that punk up / he will not go the  distance in the ring?

DId Ali mean that ultimately his opponent was going to lose or what? Would the concluding results mean the same thing?

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by kreative1 on Oct 9, 2016

to be continued....

my steelers are on Smile

Hillary is on TV What Channel?

kreative1's avatarkreative1

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Oct 9, 2016

Hillary is on TV What Channel?

that was bad helpmewin

LOL

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by kreative1 on Oct 9, 2016

that was bad helpmewin

LOL

I Agree! Green laugh

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 9, 2016

Hey noise-gate... I'd rather have a President say that than... "We will never use nuclear weapons".  Think about it.

why don't you go to YouTube and witness what a nuclear explosion looks like before talking about " using them" - Then think about what would happen if we dropped one & started a chain reaction where in retaliation some rogue group used one on us here in the US. I guarantee you you will drop some serious mud. You better think about that.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 9, 2016

why don't you go to YouTube and witness what a nuclear explosion looks like before talking about " using them" - Then think about what would happen if we dropped one & started a chain reaction where in retaliation some rogue group used one on us here in the US. I guarantee you you will drop some serious mud. You better think about that.

I know what nukes can do, I think everyone does.  But if one is used on us what do expect us to do?  Surrender?  LOL!  Our enemies have to know we will use them if we have to.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Oct 9, 2016

Hillary is on TV What Channel?

SciFi  Pumpkin

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Oct 9, 2016

Hillary is on TV What Channel?

True crime.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 9, 2016

I know what nukes can do, I think everyone does.  But if one is used on us what do expect us to do?  Surrender?  LOL!  Our enemies have to know we will use them if we have to.

So l guess what you saying is Trump's message is " Vote for me because you will be getting a badass  president who will have nukes at his disposal & will not hesitate to use them against our enemies. Trump will obviously have to live up to his bravado given that he did tell Jeb to his face while rolling his eyes " Yeah Jeb, you tough,  you real tough." It's the mentality: No one tells me what to do,  if l want to nuke them, l will...After all it's part of my vision for making America great again. 

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 9, 2016

True crime.

RuPaul's drag race.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 9, 2016

So l guess what you saying is Trump's message is " Vote for me because you will be getting a badass  president who will have nukes at his disposal & will not hesitate to use them against our enemies. Trump will obviously have to live up to his bravado given that he did tell Jeb to his face while rolling his eyes " Yeah Jeb, you tough,  you real tough." It's the mentality: No one tells me what to do,  if l want to nuke them, l will...After all it's part of my vision for making America great again. 

Give it a break noise-gate OK? 

We need a President who's a businessman, not another stinking establishment politician.  You see where those people are leading us?

We need a strong leader.  Our enemies (and yes we have enemies) really don't like us.  In fact, some actually want to kill us.

We need a President we can trust.  Is that Hillary?  She's a bigger liar than obama, and that's saying a lot.

I'm glad our enemies think Trump will use nukes if necessary. 

Name me one President who said he wouldn't use nukes?  Give me one name noise??????

Get off your soapbox and thank God our past Presidents (minus the current one) had balls.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 9, 2016

Stack

   I think he has a better chance then Hilda but that belief is based on common sense which does not take into account

people like you.  IMHO our entire government is running a scam on the people.  They poison the waters of information

so that people are scared.   They use this fear then make suggestions how to fix the problem they themselves created. 

The solution always has a small catch, "we only have to give up a few of our freedoms for it to work."  Most are clueless

to which freedoms have already been tossed away??? 

   Like it or not the US constitution along with the bill of rights is the Alpha law that all other laws must adhere to, at least

it use to be.   Obama is a lawyer and uses trickery to get around our constitution.  We as US citizens have the right to bear

arms.  The intent was and is that we the people must be able to stop government oppression. 

   Obama wants our guns, Hilda wants our guns and they will do anything to get them.   They blame guns for all the killings

when it's failure of leadership that's responsible.   Some people want a government to tell them what is best.  I want a

government that defends my constitutional rights. 

   Here we have the main divide.  One is willing to give up all their freedoms and the other is willing to fight to keep them. 

In past times I would not vote for Trump but right now there is an attack going on that is far worse than ISIS and it comes

from within.   Trump was a insider and he knows their plans, he was even part of of the corrupt system himself but something

happened that made him step away.

   

RL

"They blame guns for all the killings when it's failure of leadership that's responsible."

If there was mass poisonings like in Dalles, Oregon, some people would blame the easy access to poison, pressure cookers in Boston, and fertilizer and diesel fuel in Oklahoma City. Anyone including the deranged and terrorists can legally purchase any of the above including firearms, but in general they usually blame the nut jobs doing the act. Anyone can purchase enough fire power to kill lots of people so at best Congress can just say "our hearts and prayers go out to the victims" (repeat when necessary).

That's a discussion for another place on another day; the question today is can after being behind in the polls, is there any chance that Trump can win after now losing support from so many top Republicans?

Your rants about the President and Clinton are now useless, but don't take my word for it, read this.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 9, 2016

True crime.

sully

LMAO, We can only hope.

RL

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 9, 2016

SciFi  Pumpkin

lol!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 9, 2016

"They blame guns for all the killings when it's failure of leadership that's responsible."

If there was mass poisonings like in Dalles, Oregon, some people would blame the easy access to poison, pressure cookers in Boston, and fertilizer and diesel fuel in Oklahoma City. Anyone including the deranged and terrorists can legally purchase any of the above including firearms, but in general they usually blame the nut jobs doing the act. Anyone can purchase enough fire power to kill lots of people so at best Congress can just say "our hearts and prayers go out to the victims" (repeat when necessary).

That's a discussion for another place on another day; the question today is can after being behind in the polls, is there any chance that Trump can win after now losing support from so many top Republicans?

Your rants about the President and Clinton are now useless, but don't take my word for it, read this.

Funny thing about democrats... They stick by their man no matter what they did.  DEMOCRATS ARE SCUM!  Even you should admit that. 

Question... How many democrats voted to impeach Bill Clinton after lying to Congress?

I'm waiting...

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 9, 2016

True crime.

lol too!

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 9, 2016

Give it a break noise-gate OK? 

We need a President who's a businessman, not another stinking establishment politician.  You see where those people are leading us?

We need a strong leader.  Our enemies (and yes we have enemies) really don't like us.  In fact, some actually want to kill us.

We need a President we can trust.  Is that Hillary?  She's a bigger liar than obama, and that's saying a lot.

I'm glad our enemies think Trump will use nukes if necessary. 

Name me one President who said he wouldn't use nukes?  Give me one name noise??????

Get off your soapbox and thank God our past Presidents (minus the current one) had balls.

    TY.. GreenBay...  I have read several comments on here from noise-gate about other people's comments on this thread.. and all noise-gate keeps doing is taking other people's comments and twisting them around... they did it to sully's... dr65...mine..and now yours and some other people on this thread... just go back and read them you will see what I mean... and noise-gate... don't even comment back to me.. just do like GreenBay mentioned... GIVE IT A BREAK...

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 9, 2016

"They blame guns for all the killings when it's failure of leadership that's responsible."

If there was mass poisonings like in Dalles, Oregon, some people would blame the easy access to poison, pressure cookers in Boston, and fertilizer and diesel fuel in Oklahoma City. Anyone including the deranged and terrorists can legally purchase any of the above including firearms, but in general they usually blame the nut jobs doing the act. Anyone can purchase enough fire power to kill lots of people so at best Congress can just say "our hearts and prayers go out to the victims" (repeat when necessary).

That's a discussion for another place on another day; the question today is can after being behind in the polls, is there any chance that Trump can win after now losing support from so many top Republicans?

Your rants about the President and Clinton are now useless, but don't take my word for it, read this.

I love it when the republicans come out and show their true colors, makes the job of knowing who else to vote for

much much easier.  If every setting US elected official dumps Trump then that means he will loose how many votes?

Many of the people who support Trump also vote in their re elections.

All these ass-wipes will accomplish is to let us know who needs to go.  If any of my senators or reps say anything 

bad about Trump there gone.  We put them in and we can take them out,  they need us, we don't need them.

RL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Cut him some slack DEE, he lives in California.  That's almost another country.  LOL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 9, 2016

Funny thing about democrats... They stick by their man no matter what they did.  DEMOCRATS ARE SCUM!  Even you should admit that. 

Question... How many democrats voted to impeach Bill Clinton after lying to Congress?

I'm waiting...

Your comments are useless after the idiotic things you said about using nukes. Read this.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 9, 2016

Your comments are useless after the idiotic things you said about using nukes. Read this.

What did I say?  Point it out or shut up.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

What strikes me funny is that if Trump were running as a Dem we would all be on the same side.

RL

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 9, 2016

Ty GreenBay, keep posting please!!

Yes, I believe it. Just look at her face, it says it all..listen to her voice...look at her smirk...and her stupid little shimmy.

That says it all...she's mean, vindictive, above the law, a liar, a thief, a murderer, a fraud, a crooked politician.

More of the same Washington politics people, you want that, then vote Hillary. Frankly, I'd rather have someone who

shoots his mouth off without thinking sometimes then retracts, than someone who thinks very, very carefully before she

opens her own. 

No apology from her...no guilt....no remorse. Hillary is so far gone into the good, comfortable life she is not human anymore.

No heart, no soul, no conscience. She's a self-serving, evil, dirty politician who will sell you out in favor of big deals and big

money EVERY SINGLE TIME.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 9, 2016

What did I say?  Point it out or shut up.

LOL again!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 9, 2016

Give it a break noise-gate OK? 

We need a President who's a businessman, not another stinking establishment politician.  You see where those people are leading us?

We need a strong leader.  Our enemies (and yes we have enemies) really don't like us.  In fact, some actually want to kill us.

We need a President we can trust.  Is that Hillary?  She's a bigger liar than obama, and that's saying a lot.

I'm glad our enemies think Trump will use nukes if necessary. 

Name me one President who said he wouldn't use nukes?  Give me one name noise??????

Get off your soapbox and thank God our past Presidents (minus the current one) had balls.

That is just another example of your minority opinion. When are you finally going to figure out the same Republican party that nominated Trump is demanding he step down?

Wake up, Trump's chances of being elected President are over.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Thanks dr.  We all know dems are liars.  What else is new.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 9, 2016

That is just another example of your minority opinion. When are you finally going to figure out the same Republican party that nominated Trump is demanding he step down?

Wake up, Trump's chances of being elected President are over.

Stack I will never believe you are a vet.  You're a stinking internet liar.  Any veteran in this US military would support a strong Commander-in-Chief.  You're a fraud.  I call you out right now.  You're a stinking coward!  I was in the USMC 1973.  You're a fake.  Just shut up and go away you PO Shi!

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 9, 2016

Give it a break noise-gate OK? 

We need a President who's a businessman, not another stinking establishment politician.  You see where those people are leading us?

We need a strong leader.  Our enemies (and yes we have enemies) really don't like us.  In fact, some actually want to kill us.

We need a President we can trust.  Is that Hillary?  She's a bigger liar than obama, and that's saying a lot.

I'm glad our enemies think Trump will use nukes if necessary. 

Name me one President who said he wouldn't use nukes?  Give me one name noise??????

Get off your soapbox and thank God our past Presidents (minus the current one) had balls.

Ever watched the movie " Tombstone" with Kurt Russell in it Wiz? There is an opening scene where Doc holliday is winning at poker and Frank Stallone gets pissed of because his losing the hand and ends up getting knifed by Holliday. Your remark to me made me think of that scene, you getting pissed off .Word of advice- this forum is about Opinions, nothing more, nothing less. There is no need to get yours in a bunch.  l am not going to go over your statements line by line but l would suggest you forget about talking about " Trust and lies " when talking about ANY political candidate- they all lie. We went into Iraq over WMD's.. oh yeah that turned out to be the truth, right? Know how many American servicemen and women have lost their lives over those lies- try over 6,000 plus. Strong leaders you say? What do you define as a strong leader, being a war president?  What's Trump's strength when talking about strong leaders? Making deals about real estate, how many tiles the bathrooms should have, what? 

What's with the we need a President that a businessman? if that were true, why are some repubs fleeing him if what you say is the answer to the nation's prayer?  What's with the "   Our enemies (and yes we have enemies) really don't like us.  In fact, some actually want to kill us.... No shhtt!   What are you 18? 

sully16's avatarsully16

Jade's got a good one in his blog, all the women crying bout Trumps words, all own a copy of 50 shades of Grey, lol.

In Jarasans blog, he's got one of Obama talking about how much he loves ribs and P***y, lol

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 9, 2016

I know what nukes can do, I think everyone does.  But if one is used on us what do expect us to do?  Surrender?  LOL!  Our enemies have to know we will use them if we have to.

"But if one is used on us what do expect us to do?"

ONE? only the "galactically stupid" believe an enemy would only use one. Do you think they don't know ONE would just tick us off and our retaliation would nuke them back to the stone age?

Just the fact you're even advocating using weapons that could end the World as we knowit it shows your ignorance.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 9, 2016

Ever watched the movie " Tombstone" with Kurt Russell in it Wiz? There is an opening scene where Doc holliday is winning at poker and Frank Stallone gets pissed of because his losing the hand and ends up getting knifed by Holliday. Your remark to me made me think of that scene, you getting pissed off .Word of advice- this forum is about Opinions, nothing more, nothing less. There is no need to get yours in a bunch.  l am not going to go over your statements line by line but l would suggest you forget about talking about " Trust and lies " when talking about ANY political candidate- they all lie. We went into Iraq over WMD's.. oh yeah that turned out to be the truth, right? Know how many American servicemen and women have lost their lives over those lies- try over 6,000 plus. Strong leaders you say? What do you define as a strong leader, being a war president?  What's Trump's strength when talking about strong leaders? Making deals about real estate, how many tiles the bathrooms should have, what? 

What's with the we need a President that a businessman? if that were true, why are some repubs fleeing him if what you say is the answer to the nation's prayer?  What's with the "   Our enemies (and yes we have enemies) really don't like us.  In fact, some actually want to kill us.... No shhtt!   What are you 18? 

Hey noise... This ain't a movie.  The repubs are fleeing Trump because they're establishment and they feel threatened by him.  Ask yourself this... Why are some endorsing Hillary?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 9, 2016

    TY.. GreenBay...  I have read several comments on here from noise-gate about other people's comments on this thread.. and all noise-gate keeps doing is taking other people's comments and twisting them around... they did it to sully's... dr65...mine..and now yours and some other people on this thread... just go back and read them you will see what I mean... and noise-gate... don't even comment back to me.. just do like GreenBay mentioned... GIVE IT A BREAK...

l wont- since l have already handed you your lunch.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by kreative1 on Oct 9, 2016

to be continued....

my steelers are on Smile

Can't wait but before you make another post maybe you should read 50 shades of gray or maybe buy a

few rap CD's.   If you don't think that stuff is as common as air then you need to get out more.   I think it's

you that has gotten a big ol taste of reality.  As bad as that kind of stuff is, it's reality.

 

Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_Shades_of_Grey

RL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 9, 2016

Hey noise... This ain't a movie.  The repubs are fleeing Trump because they're establishment and they feel threatened by him.  Ask yourself this... Why are some endorsing Hillary?

Listen bud- this is nothing personal but we in a forum where people can agree to disagree. Why people are running from Trump is not my business nor do l care. l am NOT endorsing Hillary just in case you think l am. l am looking at 2 candidates for president and as l previously mentioned, l want the BEST one to lead this country. But l dont want someone making promises that l know are unrealistic. Trump was asked " How are you going to bring Jobs back to the USA" and his answer was pretty convoluted. Heck, you have close to 100 million people tuning in to hear answers and you come up with that? There are certain words l stay away from : Great, extraordinary, revolutionary, breakthrough,once in a lifetime".. all nonsense especially when dealing with Politics. Why are people endorsing Hill- l dont know,maybe because of her advocating greater childcare benefits, who knows. What are the most pressing needs facing the country- nuking the enemy or jobs?

Btw- you are NOT my enemy.. ok.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Did I ever say we were enemies noise?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 9, 2016

Did I ever say we were enemies noise?

You didn't- l just wanted to reassure you that we not. Hey, you smart- where is this from?

 

After the end of the war I want to devote myself
To my thoughts for five to ten years and to writing them down
War has caused unrest among the younger generation
Induction then destruction, who wants to die?
Wars come and go what remains are only the values of culture

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 9, 2016

"But if one is used on us what do expect us to do?"

ONE? only the "galactically stupid" believe an enemy would only use one. Do you think they don't know ONE would just tick us off and our retaliation would nuke them back to the stone age?

Just the fact you're even advocating using weapons that could end the World as we knowit it shows your ignorance.

Another fine example showing your inability to comprehend context. The word one as it is used above does

not always have to mean only 1.   One might ascertain that the context leaves room for the possibility that

a single ICBM missile could have multiple warheads and strike many targets.  I think using the word one works

well to convey his point.

RL

bigbear29

The republicans feel threatened by trump?  That is so funny and full of BS!  Trump needs the republicans!  Trump is no god and can not do everything by himself.  Trump is running scared now because he is being abandoned.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Trump has the support of what use to be called republicans.  The party is changing and even those who use to

call themselves democrats are leaving their base and supporting Trump.

Wake up.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

The leaders of the GOP are no longer control anything.  They would rather run to crooked Hilda for leadership

because they are as corrupt and crooked as she is.

EL

bigbear29

Yea right, if trump does not do well tonight, he's done.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

double b

Read this and get back to me with your great understanding.  Did Hilda violate the United States Constitution

Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971?  I think so but maybe you can come to some other conclusion.   Take a

few minutes and read the below link. 

http://elections.uslegal.com/violations-of-election-laws/

When your finished with it read this.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7727/5-revelations-leaked-dnc-emails-aaron-bandler

Now tell me Guilty or not.\

5 years,  I think that would be a life sentence for someone in her condition.

RL

noise-gate

This just in..

Mrs. Clinton arrived in St. Louis equipped with a fresh pail of chum to throw in the waters around Mr. Trump, determined to whip him into a frenzy.

dr65's avatardr65

As long as they can get the candidate in there they WANT, Rep or Dem, it's as politically smooth and routine

as it has been. I think even when there is upset, they're back to the old buddy, buddy bit soon enough.

Trump has no political buddies and owes no one any favors. He won't have to approve something for return

of something else. Cut the crap and get things done, Hillary will have another 4 years to waste and possibly

accomplish a few things but the main accomplishment will benefit her. Trump's main accomplishment will

benefit us. Nukes, who is talking about nukes?? lol, anyone with the power to give the go ahead to deploy 

them is a threat. Even wuss Obama could take us into WW3. If Hillary does, would it be a better war with her

than Trump?? That's silly. Anyone can do it and either way, it's not good. I'm sure Trump is aware of that.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

The polls will bounce around from now to the election but I don't think they will matter in the end. 

If Trump does get elected then I think many who thought they were untouchable might be taking

a long vacation dressed in a orange one piece jumper.

RL

dr65's avatardr65

And that will be a day to truly REJOICE...justice at last!

Orange is the new Green.

bigbear29

Lewd Donald Trump Tape Is a Breaking Point for Many in the G.O.P.:

 

WASHINGTON — Republican leaders began to abandon Donald J. Trumpby the dozens on Saturday after the release of a video showing him speaking of women in vulgar sexual terms, delivering a punishing blow to his campaign and plunging the party into crisis a month before the election.

Fearing that his candidacy was on the verge of undermining the entire Republican ticket next month, a group of senators and House memberswithdrew support for him, with some demanding that he step aside. Mr. Trump, however, vowed to stay in the race.

The list of party figures publicly rejecting Mr. Trump included a host of prominent elected officials, perhaps most notably Senator John McCain of Arizona, the 2008 nominee.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

The current GOP leadership is dead, no one I know gives a damm.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

This won't have any effect on Trump supporters. 

RL

bigbear29

Trump gives a dam!  He needs the republican leadership.

bigbear29

Trump does not have enough votes/supporters to win the elections.  That's why he needs the republican party leadership.

bigbear29

If trump screws this up, his polls will drop like a ROCK!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 9, 2016

And that will be a day to truly REJOICE...justice at last!

Orange is the new Green.

The day Trey Gowdy finally nails her arse to the wall, I'll throw the biggest party Michigan has ever seen.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

For what, ever heard of executive orders, he will put all the ducks in order.  Like I said in a earlier post

Trump was once a trusted friend of the misfits in charge.   He knows what they don't want the general

public to know.   Wait and see, they will try to create some type of crisis just around the time he takes

office.  Mark my words if he is elected.  You will see how far both parties will sink to keep the truth in

the dark.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 9, 2016

Trump does not have enough votes/supporters to win the elections.  That's why he needs the republican party leadership.

So you say.  I think there is a army of voters that will come out of no where.

RL

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 9, 2016

Lewd Donald Trump Tape Is a Breaking Point for Many in the G.O.P.:

 

WASHINGTON — Republican leaders began to abandon Donald J. Trumpby the dozens on Saturday after the release of a video showing him speaking of women in vulgar sexual terms, delivering a punishing blow to his campaign and plunging the party into crisis a month before the election.

Fearing that his candidacy was on the verge of undermining the entire Republican ticket next month, a group of senators and House memberswithdrew support for him, with some demanding that he step aside. Mr. Trump, however, vowed to stay in the race.

The list of party figures publicly rejecting Mr. Trump included a host of prominent elected officials, perhaps most notably Senator John McCain of Arizona, the 2008 nominee.

John McCain co authored the NDA with Lindsey Graham and Barack Obama signed it, far as I am concerned those three should be brought up on treason charges against the American people.

You can be picked up,

No Miranda rights, no Lawyer, no phone call, no Judge, trial or Jury, they can hold you forever!

Who thinks this is a good idea?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 9, 2016

So you say.  I think there is a army of voters that will come out of no where.

RL

I Agree!

There are people out there that don't give a rats ass about the Republican Party or what they want. They will vote for Trump. I am one of them. I don't  want Lyin' Hilly in there. I believe there are more people that feel the same way.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 9, 2016

John McCain co authored the NDA with Lindsey Graham and Barack Obama signed it, far as I am concerned those three should be brought up on treason charges against the American people.

You can be picked up,

No Miranda rights, no Lawyer, no phone call, no Judge, trial or Jury, they can hold you forever!

Who thinks this is a good idea?

there must be plenty that are quaking in their boots as they should be.

My vote is still Trump.  And I think there are plenty like me planning to vote Trump, they just dont talk about it.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Sixteen Republicans were running for President. The people chose Trump. Why? Because they are tired of all the BS in Washington. Too much partisanship, nothing gets done... (Remember that 60 minutes episode a couple of months ago that said Congressman were expected to spend 8 hours a day trying to get re-elected.) Congresses approval rating is at an all time low for a reason. People want a change. Maybe we should just vote out all the life time politicians. They seem to forget the people put them in office, and the people can take them out. Trump winning could be the best thing for this country.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 9, 2016

I Agree!

There are people out there that don't give a rats ass about the Republican Party or what they want. They will vote for Trump. I am one of them. I don't  want Lyin' Hilly in there. I believe there are more people that feel the same way.

I think the Republicans who speak out against him have the most to hide.

Go Trump US Flag

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 9, 2016

Sixteen Republicans were running for President. The people chose Trump. Why? Because they are tired of all the BS in Washington. Too much partisanship, nothing gets done... (Remember that 60 minutes episode a couple of months ago that said Congressman were expected to spend 8 hours a day trying to get re-elected.) Congresses approval rating is at an all time low for a reason. People want a change. Maybe we should just vote out all the life time politicians. They seem to forget the people put them in office, and the people can take them out. Trump winning could be the best thing for this country.

TERM LIMITS.

You bet Trump winning could be the best. I for one, am sick of the greed, lies, self-interest, holier-than-thou jerks that are in both parties.

I WANT CHANGE AND I want Big Change, real transparency, not that farce of Obama.  His transparency was about as transparent as Mississippi MUD.  Change in the care and help for our vets, government intrusion change, shut down of the IRS, with smug John Koskinen obstructionist facing prison, OBAMACARE DESTRUCTION, (remember that ASISINE "we have to pass it to see what is in it" Nancy Pelosi insanity, passed in the middle of the night with not ONE republican, EPA shutdown and this is just the beginning.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 9, 2016

TERM LIMITS.

You bet Trump winning could be the best. I for one, am sick of the greed, lies, self-interest, holier-than-thou jerks that are in both parties.

I WANT CHANGE AND I want Big Change, real transparency, not that farce of Obama.  His transparency was about as transparent as Mississippi MUD.  Change in the care and help for our vets, government intrusion change, shut down of the IRS, with smug John Koskinen obstructionist facing prison, OBAMACARE DESTRUCTION, (remember that ASISINE "we have to pass it to see what is in it" Nancy Pelosi insanity, passed in the middle of the night with not ONE republican, EPA shutdown and this is just the beginning.

The liberal media, things I have not heard addressed about the Trump Tape.

First, he didn't know he had a hot mic, I believe it's against the law to record 2 people without their knowledge, did the person who gave the tape recording get paid? who actually owned the Tape? Lots of questions on the integrity of Media.

bigbear29

Trump is bringing 4 of Bill Clinton's accusers to the debate.  He is a total IDIOT!  Trump is running scared.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 9, 2016

I Agree!

There are people out there that don't give a rats ass about the Republican Party or what they want. They will vote for Trump. I am one of them. I don't  want Lyin' Hilly in there. I believe there are more people that feel the same way.

I Agree!   There are more people than Hillary can ever imagine. They don't care about her Trump said this, Trump said that BS.    They are concerned about the real issues going on in this country. They also know that Hillary will tell them whatever she thinks they want to hear and then do something completely different. We NEED Trump!!!

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 9, 2016

The liberal media, things I have not heard addressed about the Trump Tape.

First, he didn't know he had a hot mic, I believe it's against the law to record 2 people without their knowledge, did the person who gave the tape recording get paid? who actually owned the Tape? Lots of questions on the integrity of Media.

sully, that was my question and WHY would they record that conversation except for nefarious purposes. Additionally, dont you have to disclose to the other party and have their authorization to be recorded?

The timing of this is VERY suspect and I would bet money the person holding that tape was paid and sure would love to follow THAT money.  i have my own idea where it would lead.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 9, 2016

The liberal media, things I have not heard addressed about the Trump Tape.

First, he didn't know he had a hot mic, I believe it's against the law to record 2 people without their knowledge, did the person who gave the tape recording get paid? who actually owned the Tape? Lots of questions on the integrity of Media.

Couldn't have been a Clinton supporter could it?  Nah.  Green laugh

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 9, 2016

sully, that was my question and WHY would they record that conversation except for nefarious purposes. Additionally, dont you have to disclose to the other party and have their authorization to be recorded?

The timing of this is VERY suspect and I would bet money the person holding that tape was paid and sure would love to follow THAT money.  i have my own idea where it would lead.

Well, Billy Bush is a cousin to George W. and Jeb Bush, and a nephew to George H.W. Bush. And the Bush's have already said they are supporting Hillary...

MaximumMillions

Glenn Beck

https://www.facebook.com/GlennBeck/posts/10153556923133188

 

"This is not an attack, this is an honest question. I will delete and ban any vulgar or hateful answer.

I really want to understand.

I get that Trump is reflective of what people are feeling; secure the border; fight to win; don't give in to china etc. I really do understand that he is saying things that people are feeling. Justifiably.

I get the fact that he is saying that America is a great place and that we can be great again. That is rare and refreshing.

I understand that he is seen and has the proof in New York City, as a guy who can get things done.

I understand and like the fact that he just says what he is thinking. No politically correct bs; no focus groups and he does it with out apologizing.

But here is what I don't understand.

He is part of the problem when he by his own admission, buys politicians; he said he identifies his "policies more as a democrat"; he makes President Obama look truly humble; he was very pro abortion until very recently; he still says "don't defund planned parenthood"; he is pro "assault weapon ban"; he is in favor of a wealth tax that would just "take money out of people's bank accounts"; he is for boots on the ground in Iraq and 'taking the oil' from the Iraqi people; he is a progressive 'republican'; he says single payer health care works; he said he would give people more than just Obama care; the First Lady would be the first to have posed nude in lesbian porno shots; he said that he keeps all the bibles he is given in a "special place" out side the city - and he only goes to church on Christmas and Easter; he is generally not a likable guy; he has around 16% favorability with Hispanics and he has gone bankrupt 4 times.

This is an honest question. I really want to understand:

Why are big name "conservatives" supporting him? I get it if you are tired of politicians, a republican progressive, or you are only about winning (although those who say they would NEVER vote for him is over 50% of REPUBLICANS). Perhaps you are angry and you just want to make someone pay or just want something done and you don't care how it gets done, but what PRINCIPLES does he have that they are attracted to?

I am not talking about the average Joe, I am talking about Sean Hannity or Ann Colter. How about Savage or Rush?

These are smart people. What am I missing? Just based on his favorability ratings he could never win in a general. Research shows that he may be near his ceiling now.

Are they just trying to hold on to those disenfranchised republicans and keep them in the fold? (Maybe I am wrong for not holding my tongue) I think that is a good goal, but that doesn't seem to ring true to me as they are actually fighting for him, at least in the case of Ann.

I want the system to play itself out and I want the people to decide. It is why I didn't like idea of a ban of him on the radio show while I was gone. (Although that was misrepresented. Pat and stu didn't want to talk about him for two days)

I really do want him to be heard as I think it is important to discuss the things like the border. I wish he would bring up the fed and money printing. But I just don't understand those who claim conservative, small government values and principles saying he is their man. Am I misreading what they are saying?

I understand Bernie Sanders 30-50% of democrats are really die hard socialists. The question remains: is 25% of the GOP trump style 'conservatives'

Please let's have a respectful dialogue. I am not trying to tear him down, I am stating my opinion. Can we actually have a civil discourse based on facts? Not on emotion or feelings.

(I think those are important but like I did in the beginning of this please recognize those as such. They are important and valid but that is not the same as policies or principles)"

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 9, 2016

Trump is bringing 4 of Bill Clinton's accusers to the debate.  He is a total IDIOT!  Trump is running scared.

Its called re arranging the deck chairs on the  Image result for titanic

bigbear29

Yes, that's funny!

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 9, 2016

sully, that was my question and WHY would they record that conversation except for nefarious purposes. Additionally, dont you have to disclose to the other party and have their authorization to be recorded?

The timing of this is VERY suspect and I would bet money the person holding that tape was paid and sure would love to follow THAT money.  i have my own idea where it would lead.

Is it " Possible" that a Republican operative is behind the tape exposure, one who hates the idea of Trump being the  party standard bearer, after all Trump has blown by the party establishment favourites like Jeb and others who are more in line with the party's thinking, you know an inside job? What the chance of that happening? 

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 9, 2016

Stack I will never believe you are a vet.  You're a stinking internet liar.  Any veteran in this US military would support a strong Commander-in-Chief.  You're a fraud.  I call you out right now.  You're a stinking coward!  I was in the USMC 1973.  You're a fake.  Just shut up and go away you PO Shi!

Even some of the Trump supporters here are calling you stupid. Just the fact nobody has to prove their military service, especially on a lottery proves your not very smart. When are you going to finally figure out without the support of over 150 Republican former and present Governors, Senators, and House Reps Trump can't win?

And that goes for the rest of the people here proving how ignorant they are saying Trump still has a chance.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 9, 2016

Is it " Possible" that a Republican operative is behind the tape exposure, one who hates the idea of Trump being the  party standard bearer, after all Trump has blown by the party establishment favourites like Jeb and others who are more in line with the party's thinking, you know an inside job? What the chance of that happening? 

It's more likely that it was a Republican operative that exposed Trump (pardon the pun). The weird think is the number of Republicans bailing, but here it's still all about Clinton. The Debate is about to start and it's going to be interesting to see what Trump will do for damage control.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Max

I will try to give a serious answer later tonight.

RL

sully16's avatarsully16

Trump to Hillary, you'd be in Jail. I Agree!

sully16's avatarsully16

Did anyone see the fly that kept landing on her ?, reminded me of the Amityville Horror.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 9, 2016

Trump to Hillary, you'd be in Jail. I Agree!

     I Agree!     and also that she should be a shame of herself...  WTG TRUMP... Sad Cheers

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 9, 2016

Trump to Hillary, you'd be in Jail. I Agree!

THAT was my favorite.   Green laugh

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 9, 2016

Did anyone see the fly that kept landing on her ?, reminded me of the Amityville Horror.

how ironic, remember the fly that kept buzzing oBamas head during an interview and he picked it out of the air?  Must have had a lot of experience.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 9, 2016

Did anyone see the fly that kept landing on her ?, reminded me of the Amityville Horror.

LMFAO!!!!!

dr65's avatardr65

US Flag TRUMP WON US Flag

           BRAVO

              US Flag

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 9, 2016

US Flag TRUMP WON US Flag

           BRAVO

              US Flag

    I SECOND THAT!!!!     US Flag

Stack47

Legally, after Trump talked about groping on that tape, can that be used against him in court if a woman accused him doing that?

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 9, 2016

    I SECOND THAT!!!!     US Flag

Hurray!  I Agree!   US Flag

dr65's avatardr65

Hillary was a little more than nervous at times. 

A lot of times. 

I wish he would have kept driving on the emails,

that clearly made her uncomfortable, then she 

changed the subject. And that darn stupid smile

on her face...her running mate wears the same

clown grin..you can tell when someone like that

is uneasy, it's all in the smile..fake and set....

Just like Hillary...fake and set to be PROSECUTED.

                      GO TRUMP

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 9, 2016

Legally, after Trump talked about groping on that tape, can that be used against him in court if a woman accused him doing that?

l wouldn't be surprised. Trump opened the door to that prospect and if someone did come forward- he would take it in the shorts. The other thing l noticed is that he feels the Oval office can be used for personal vendetta against his opponents. He said that he would " investigate" that federal judge who was looking into his business tactics. Tonight he said that " when l am President, l will appoint a special prosecutor.." Is this guy nuts? That sort of thing happens in 3rd world countries where your political opponents are arrested and thrown in jail or gone missing for good. One thing l will say, he threw a lot of red meat to his 35% base with the remark of " you will be in jail." Thing is you cannot win the election with a 35%-40% base.. Bash.. ..Try telling them that though. Btw what on earth was with that behavior of him creeping in on her personal space by standing behind her, looming over her like a grizzly bear attempting to intimidate her? My wife even said " With the heck is that all about?

bigbear29

Hillary 57%,  trump 34% = trump the loser

dr65's avatardr65

He needs to dig up something real ing AND true that she cannot escape from for the

3rd debate. His team needs to study that tape from the debate tonight and find the key

topics, statements and actions that Trump used and send it all the way home.

I wonder what they'll dig up on Trump for the 3rd debate...sorry but no offense to women

but really, it was 11 years ago...he made the remarks with another guy...Access Hollywood...

really?? Get on with what matters, cause like Trump said, he talked about it but didn't actually

do it like Bill...and Hillary harassed and blackmailed the women who were used by her husband.

Can you see the witch dealing with them all? She's been mean for a long time and I don't even

have to know her...it's written all over her face.

 

Edit - why was my post snipped? I wrote shocking..

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

The immigration issue alone is reason enough NOT to vote for Hillary Clinton, unless you want this;

Majority of Paris attackers entered Europe posing as refugees • The Foreign Desk. http://tiny.iavian.net/csbg
Was there ever any doubt? The democrats are putting all of us at risk. It is happening.
grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 10, 2016

Hillary was a little more than nervous at times. 

A lot of times. 

I wish he would have kept driving on the emails,

that clearly made her uncomfortable, then she 

changed the subject. And that darn stupid smile

on her face...her running mate wears the same

clown grin..you can tell when someone like that

is uneasy, it's all in the smile..fake and set....

Just like Hillary...fake and set to be PROSECUTED.

                      GO TRUMP

With all the women that Bill attacked sitting in the front row, Hillary wasn't going to say anything. She was shidding bricks.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 10, 2016

The immigration issue alone is reason enough NOT to vote for Hillary Clinton, unless you want this;

Majority of Paris attackers entered Europe posing as refugees • The Foreign Desk. http://tiny.iavian.net/csbg
Was there ever any doubt? The democrats are putting all of us at risk. It is happening.

I Agree!

bigbear29

That was a waste of time bringing those 4 women into the debate, and it was pretty LOW.

When they go low, you go high!  Well done Hillary!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Short and simple answer, I think there is a anointing placed upon him by God.   This is not something that many would

accept as he still acts like the Donald Trump we all know, like it or not.  Think about it, he was given less than a 1% chance

of winning the nomination and beat out many who all seemed better suited.  Millions and millions of dollars have been spent

trying to bring him down with little or no effect.  I would say most if not all the negative polls were a result of his own doing. 

Just watch any news show and they will tell you this election is as strange as it gets.  I don't think this is the answer  you were

expecting but it's the best I have.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 10, 2016

That was a waste of time bringing those 4 women into the debate, and it was pretty LOW.

When they go low, you go high!  Well done Hillary!

double b

LOL, Trump kicked butt all night long.

RL

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 10, 2016

That was a waste of time bringing those 4 women into the debate, and it was pretty LOW.

When they go low, you go high!  Well done Hillary!

LOW? CNN (Clinton News Network) blitzed a private convo from 11 yrs ago, for 24 hrs straight over hurricane devastation and her corruption. Trump gave the Clintons victims a mic...well done Trump.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 10, 2016

Short and simple answer, I think there is a anointing placed upon him by God.   This is not something that many would

accept as he still acts like the Donald Trump we all know, like it or not.  Think about it, he was given less than a 1% chance

of winning the nomination and beat out many who all seemed better suited.  Millions and millions of dollars have been spent

trying to bring him down with little or no effect.  I would say most if not all the negative polls were a result of his own doing. 

Just watch any news show and they will tell you this election is as strange as it gets.  I don't think this is the answer  you were

expecting but it's the best I have.

RL

Don't take this personal but your opening remark is totally absurd. There is an anointing placed on him by God? Jesus who is the Son of God encouraged paying taxes over 2,000 years ago ( Luke 20: 22- 25) Seeing that the Donald did not, are you saying Jesus was not being truthful?

What are you thinking? 

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 10, 2016

Don't take this personal but your opening remark is totally absurd. There is an anointing placed on him by God? Jesus who is the Son of God encouraged paying taxes over 2,000 years ago ( Luke 20: 22- 25) Seeing that the Donald did not, are you saying Jesus was not being truthful?

What are you thinking? 

I mean no disrespect, but do you really think a divine entity has concerns with taxes, or even demands worship? This is a part of what separates us humans....every religion has a human as it's middleman, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammad, etc....were all mortal humans...and yet they are worshipped  as a diversion to the relationship we are entitled to with our creator. GOD is the glue of dimensions. not the celebrity you need to talk to the bodyguard first.....

computerhead723's avatarcomputerhead723

that's a real sad excuse to elect a pervert and to the White House...his debate performance showed he doesn't have the IQ Rubber Monkey.he will never be able to negotiate trade deals or make informed decisions in the event the war...therefore Hillary Clinton is my choice

computerhead723's avatarcomputerhead723

I don't know what reality you or Donald Trump are  in..

 but he did not win a single debate..after the sex tape was released he's toast and I hear more bombshells will be forthcoming making the sex tape ..appear mild...coming from The Apprentice show

computerhead723's avatarcomputerhead723

you're right when they go low Democrats go high..

besides this ain't about Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton the president of the United States in his leadership it's about us and the average u.s. citizens3

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 9, 2016

Did anyone see the fly that kept landing on her ?, reminded me of the Amityville Horror.

Ever see Southpark and what they call Hillary? A poo sandwich.

Well done Mr. Trump. I almost lost it laughing when HRC said dems go high when Repubs go low. She has been a snake all her life.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 10, 2016

l wouldn't be surprised. Trump opened the door to that prospect and if someone did come forward- he would take it in the shorts. The other thing l noticed is that he feels the Oval office can be used for personal vendetta against his opponents. He said that he would " investigate" that federal judge who was looking into his business tactics. Tonight he said that " when l am President, l will appoint a special prosecutor.." Is this guy nuts? That sort of thing happens in 3rd world countries where your political opponents are arrested and thrown in jail or gone missing for good. One thing l will say, he threw a lot of red meat to his 35% base with the remark of " you will be in jail." Thing is you cannot win the election with a 35%-40% base.. Bash.. ..Try telling them that though. Btw what on earth was with that behavior of him creeping in on her personal space by standing behind her, looming over her like a grizzly bear attempting to intimidate her? My wife even said " With the heck is that all about?

Where were you when Obama and Lois Lerner ( highest IRS Officer were targeting Conservatives) ?

Not 1, but hundreds .

Hillary broke law after law, she belongs in Jail.

Go break laws and see what happens to you.

She put National Security at risk, she should be investigated to the full extent of her actions.

Apparently , you are okay with the NDA that Obama signed, and now you are whining about Trump promising Justice?

I have no more use for you either, you turn a blind eye for one, but want to excoriate another.

You are a true hypocrite.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 10, 2016

Don't take this personal but your opening remark is totally absurd. There is an anointing placed on him by God? Jesus who is the Son of God encouraged paying taxes over 2,000 years ago ( Luke 20: 22- 25) Seeing that the Donald did not, are you saying Jesus was not being truthful?

What are you thinking? 

God or Jesus never anointed perfect people as his chosen ones. Someone needs to study the Bible.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 10, 2016

l wouldn't be surprised. Trump opened the door to that prospect and if someone did come forward- he would take it in the shorts. The other thing l noticed is that he feels the Oval office can be used for personal vendetta against his opponents. He said that he would " investigate" that federal judge who was looking into his business tactics. Tonight he said that " when l am President, l will appoint a special prosecutor.." Is this guy nuts? That sort of thing happens in 3rd world countries where your political opponents are arrested and thrown in jail or gone missing for good. One thing l will say, he threw a lot of red meat to his 35% base with the remark of " you will be in jail." Thing is you cannot win the election with a 35%-40% base.. Bash.. ..Try telling them that though. Btw what on earth was with that behavior of him creeping in on her personal space by standing behind her, looming over her like a grizzly bear attempting to intimidate her? My wife even said " With the heck is that all about?

Sorry noise-gate this is becoming a third world country. At least Trump is acting like there is a problem.

First step is in identifying it..the problem is Hillary and her type. Big donations and high style living while 

there are cities and residents suffering and she wants to save the Syrian people - what about our own? 

She wants to let those that want to leave their country in because she is under the impression that every

thing is just fine with our own. Things are very wrong here. When a government and it's leadership become

too globally active and have grand plans for other countries, it's either because they think things are acceptable

here or are interested in what's in it for them. What can we give these people? Security? Safety? Why us and

what about us?

Oh and the behavior you call creeping, was intimidation. It clearly had an effect on Hillary. She's been accustomed

to having no one in her rear view, on her tail or or being a presence demanding she be on par. Intimidation is

something Hillary is usually more effective and experienced with and I'm glad Trump turned the tables last night.

She was rocked off her pedestal of self importance, invincibility and high horse feeling that she's untouchable.

Hesitant, uneasy, ineffective and clearly brought down a few notches. If she wasn't guilty of charges, why did she

have nothing to say but what we've all heard before? A bunch of lies, deceit and topic ducking diversion tactics.

Hillary's big money can gain political favor but it can't buy the hearts of the American people. I'm tired of being sold

out. Honestly, aren't you?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

I just wish Trump mentioned the corrupt Clinton Foundation last night.  Oh well, maybe next time.  I thought that was a good debate.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 10, 2016

Don't take this personal but your opening remark is totally absurd. There is an anointing placed on him by God? Jesus who is the Son of God encouraged paying taxes over 2,000 years ago ( Luke 20: 22- 25) Seeing that the Donald did not, are you saying Jesus was not being truthful?

What are you thinking? 

noise-gate

Your knowledge of the bible seems to be a bit lacking, lets look at a few people that were not what we might think

of as people who God would use.  King Nebuchadnezzar, Cyrus the Great and Constantine the Great.  All of these

rulers had serious issues that don't fit well with most peoples biblical theology.  Being called, anointed  or chosen by

God is not necessarily a sign of approval from a theology aspect but that they have been prepared for some event. 

It's is possible that I am off by a mile but that is something we will have to wait and see. 

RL

P.S.  I am not one of those end of the world, anti-Christ scare you straight kind of people.  IMHO most modern Christian

theology lacks the worldview held by those who wrote the bible.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 10, 2016

God or Jesus never anointed perfect people as his chosen ones. Someone needs to study the Bible.

Someone does read their bible and the point l am making is that if you enamored by an individuals actions, its pretty dangerous to suddenly say his anointed. Where do you stop? Was Obama anointed in 08, how about Bush after 911, Nixon, Kennedy? Just because you " think"  it does not make it so. Would Bernie Sanders folks be correct in saying he was anointed? Which begs the question- what traits are displayed by one you think is anointed?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 10, 2016

noise-gate

Your knowledge of the bible seems to be a bit lacking, lets look at a few people that were not what we might think

of as people who God would use.  King Nebuchadnezzar, Cyrus the Great and Constantine the Great.  All of these

rulers had serious issues that don't fit well with most peoples biblical theology.  Being called, anointed  or chosen by

God is not necessarily a sign of approval from a theology aspect but that they have been prepared for some event. 

It's is possible that I am off by a mile but that is something we will have to wait and see. 

RL

P.S.  I am not one of those end of the world, anti-Christ scare you straight kind of people.  IMHO most modern Christian

theology lacks the worldview held by those who wrote the bible.

l am no authority on the scriptures- But l would be foolish to assume that just by  looking at  people's actions l come to the conclusion that the person is anointed by God. King Nebuchadnezzar  & Cyrus  first off were not worshippers of God. They were " used" for a specific purpose, namely to bring about actions that furthered  God's plan. What's Trump use?  If you go down that path of reason, one could ask was Bernie Sanders actions for  attempting to lift the minimum wage, free College for all a " sign" that he was anointed? Do you see the original point l was making? 

bigbear29

Trump is not going to bring up Clinton's foundation, because trump is in the same boat about his foundation.  New York just sent trump notice to shut down his foundation.  Trump was also using money from his foundation to payoff people.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by computerhead723 on Oct 10, 2016

that's a real sad excuse to elect a pervert and to the White House...his debate performance showed he doesn't have the IQ Rubber Monkey.he will never be able to negotiate trade deals or make informed decisions in the event the war...therefore Hillary Clinton is my choice

   Well if you watched the video that GreenBay posted on this thread by Hannity ( page 139) you will see exactly what Bill Clinton was doing when he was living in the White House... it is DISGUSTING!!!

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 10, 2016

That was a waste of time bringing those 4 women into the debate, and it was pretty LOW.

When they go low, you go high!  Well done Hillary!

Hillary go high? That is a crock.  If I can give them any credit, it is they are both gutter fighters, no one goes as low as those two for mud slinging.

bigbear29

But it is a series of lows for trump and now he brings Bill Clinton's accusers to the debate.  Extremely low!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

noise-gate

I won't say that I know the will of God beyond that which he has made evident within scripture and even then

it's not always clear.  I have to wait and see but while waiting I look for traits that line up with other events that

have happened in the past.  The Bible tells us that God gives kingdoms to whoever he will but he also gives us a

a little background into how he determines his choice.   Obama could have had a good run but early on he mocked

God.  Things that could have been blessed ended in failure. 

 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

Rest assured, God will determine the next president based on the state of the his people.  The church has failed to

fulfill the the will of God and has been given a warning shot across it's bow.   

"The heart of man plans his way, but the LORD establishes his steps."  I say that holds true for both good and bad. 

Why don't we just flip a coin and let God decides the outcome?   Because we need a wakeup call every now and then

and are given the chance to effect the outcome. 

As touching Taxes

And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?

They say unto him, Caesar's.

Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

These passages tell us to pay what the law says we owe.  Trump's usage of the tax codes/laws was perfectly legal.  Caesar got

all that was due him under current laws as far as I know.  Why would anyone pay more than legally required?

America is the greatest country in the world and God has blessed it and God has withheld his blessings time and time again.

It's not Trump's brilliance or lack of it that defines my vote.  As I see it we have two distinct paths set before us.  One will hold us

to the current path and the other changes course.   When I compare Hillary to the law of God then I see some very big no no's.

Some will argue my points using the character of the person as evidence but that stuff falls into the I don't really care basket.

 

RL

.       

bigbear29

trump's polls of likely voters falls to 35%

 

Clinton leading trump by 11 points.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 10, 2016

Hillary go high? That is a crock.  If I can give them any credit, it is they are both gutter fighters, no one goes as low as those two for mud slinging.

Remember all those Clinton followers that died mysteriously.

All suicides, and accidents?

Sure.

What say you bigbear?

Benghazi? 4 Americans left to fight on their own and died.

Bigbear? What say you?

Afraid to answer?

Yes, you are!

bigbear29

On September 11, 2012, Islamist militants attacked a US diplomatic compound in Benghazi, leaving a US ambassador and three other Americans dead.

White House officials initially, and inaccurately, described the assault not as a coordinated terrorist attack, but as a spontaneous act of violence born out of a protest over an anti-Islamic video.

It later emerged that the state department, led at the time by Hillary Clinton, had rejected appeals for additional security at the consulate where the attack took place.

The attack and the administration's bumbling response came in the lead-up to the 2012 general election, and critics of Mrs Clinton and President Barack Obama accused them of incompetence, or even taking part in a nefarious cover-up.

While no wilful wrongdoing has ever come to light the investigation continues, with Mrs Clinton at long last taking the stand on Thursday.

 

Keywords: While no wilful wrongdoing has ever come to  light the investigation

bigbear29

35%, how low can you go!  This is the end of the republican party!  Bye-Bye!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Double b

 

While no wilful wrongdoing has ever come to light the investigation continues, with Mrs Clinton at long last taking the stand on Thursday.

 

All the damming information got scrubbed along with the rest of the emails.

 

RL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

bigbear29

Hillary is not in jail or proved to be guilty!  That is the bottom line!

What is true, is that trump is losing BIG time!

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

I've come to the conclusion that discussing which candidate is the best for the country is akin to trying to pick up a turd by its cleanest end. We're arguing over whether to put a blue lid or red lid on our old trash can.  I'm about ready to write in a vote for the fly on Hillary's face.  It certainly got more air time than has any third-party candidate.

I did notice Bill Clinton went up to Ken Bone after the debate and shook his hand.  I can imagine the introduction went like this:

Clinton: "Hello, I'm Bill Clinton."

Ken Bone: "Ken Bone."

Clinton: "Why, yes I can!"

bigbear29

The only two that have a chance to win is Hillary and trump on the ballot.  If you write in some ones name, than why vote at all?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

bb

34% of all murders go unsolved for a total of 211,000 since 2012. According to you the murders

are not murders until they are caught and convicted.   I am a little put off that there could be up

to 211,000 new murders since 2012 walking around as free as birds.  Gee, if we go back several

more years there could be millions. 

A just king gives stability to his nation

one who demands bribes destroys it.

It seems like the going rate is $250,000 per plate.

 

RL

Thanks, another good reason to vote for Trump.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 10, 2016

35%, how low can you go!  This is the end of the republican party!  Bye-Bye!

Hillary is lower than whale poop, PERIOD.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Mike

LMAO

RL

Party

bigbear29

Murders are murders, you still you have to find the guilty person.  And we do not have kings in the USA.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 10, 2016

noise-gate

I won't say that I know the will of God beyond that which he has made evident within scripture and even then

it's not always clear.  I have to wait and see but while waiting I look for traits that line up with other events that

have happened in the past.  The Bible tells us that God gives kingdoms to whoever he will but he also gives us a

a little background into how he determines his choice.   Obama could have had a good run but early on he mocked

God.  Things that could have been blessed ended in failure. 

 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

Rest assured, God will determine the next president based on the state of the his people.  The church has failed to

fulfill the the will of God and has been given a warning shot across it's bow.   

"The heart of man plans his way, but the LORD establishes his steps."  I say that holds true for both good and bad. 

Why don't we just flip a coin and let God decides the outcome?   Because we need a wakeup call every now and then

and are given the chance to effect the outcome. 

As touching Taxes

And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?

They say unto him, Caesar's.

Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

These passages tell us to pay what the law says we owe.  Trump's usage of the tax codes/laws was perfectly legal.  Caesar got

all that was due him under current laws as far as I know.  Why would anyone pay more than legally required?

America is the greatest country in the world and God has blessed it and God has withheld his blessings time and time again.

It's not Trump's brilliance or lack of it that defines my vote.  As I see it we have two distinct paths set before us.  One will hold us

to the current path and the other changes course.   When I compare Hillary to the law of God then I see some very big no no's.

Some will argue my points using the character of the person as evidence but that stuff falls into the I don't really care basket.

 

RL

.       

Then wait and see you must. Lest l remind you* in a nice way- Samuel the prophet was sent to the house of Jesse to find the future king, the anointed one. He took One look at Eliab and said " surely the is the anointed one before me." What made him make that statement? For one Eliab was tall, good looking etc etc but Samuel  was told. No, this is not the anointed one and eventually had David brought before him. Point being even a Prophet can be mistaken by appearances, what does that say about you & l looking at politicians & thinking " yep, this is it." I have no intention of turning the forum into a religious one so that is my final two cents on the matter.As always an opinion & Peace.

bigbear29

And that whale poop will be running the USA!  PERIOD!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

There was a farmer who was pulled over for a traffic violation.  As the officer approached the farmers car a fly

kept buzzing around his head.  The farmer told the officer that it was a sho fly, the kind seen buzzing around

horses asses.   The officer a bit ticked off asked, you calling me a horses ass?   The farmer reply NO, but it sure

is hard to fool them sho flies. 

RL

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Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

The outrage of women abandoning Donald Trump because of foul language is a complete hypocrisy. These are the same women who support the Kardashians and purchased one of the 80 million copies of Fifty shades of grey.

I have lost all hope and respect for these type of women...perhaps they should have embraced working in a monastery.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

noise-gate

Samuel was not told in advance, God did not reveal it unto him and wanted to show that the outward man

was of no importance.  David was not even considered by Eliab as he was just a boy.   Who would think that

the least of the children of Eliab would be the one God choose.   God selected David because of his inner man.

God hand picked David and it's said that David was the apple of God's eye.  David a little later on had a affair

with the wife of one of his most devoted followers then sent him to the front lines so that he would be killed

in battle so that he could marry her and hide the baby that was a product of the fling.  God never gave up on

David and even at the end of David's life David tried to get Solomon to Kill a person who had mocked him years

earlier.   King David was never allowed to build the Temple because the bible said that he was a man of blood.

It strikes me funny that on his death bead he asked Solomon to shed blood.   God still loved David and after

Solomon went south so to say God allowed Solomon to continue because of David.  King David seemed to have

a problem with the ladies.  When he died they got a young women to craw into bead with him.  When nothing

happened they pronounced him dead.   Maybe Billyboy was Gods choice too. 

RL

bigbear29

WOW,  you know what type women that are not going to support trump.  I think it's the women with brains.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 10, 2016

And that whale poop will be running the USA!  PERIOD!

Whoa now that is something to be proud of, good going bennyboy, you just showed your posterior.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trump rally live in PA.  10/10/16 starts @ 3:30 eastern.  Watch and learn something bear.

dr65's avatardr65

TY GreenBay!!! Aweome, I hope you keep posting these videos - PA needs to get out and vote, I've heard some

say it's no use because of the electoral vote Eek we need them to get out there. This will matter.

Edit..That's a lot of people there, I'm going to watch it now.

dr65's avatardr65

Wth? I just skimmed a headline that said debate officials stopped Bill Clinton's accusers from sitting in the Trump

family box...too close?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Youtube just went down, don't know if it's everywhere or just here. I seen thousands of people lining the

streets in PA all supporting Trump.  Another reason not to trust the polls, and Hilda

RL

bigbear29

It would not have made any difference, Bill Clinton is not running for office.  It was lower than low.  With that stunt, I think trump lost more women voters.  Trump needs me to run his campaign.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 10, 2016

Wth? I just skimmed a headline that said debate officials stopped Bill Clinton's accusers from sitting in the Trump

family box...too close?

That's right,  you don't need any freaking distractions. How would you like it if the Clinton campaign dredged up that married woman who Trump said he attempted to nail on tape & let her sit in the Clinton family box? It's called having a decency of respect.

This just in : Bill Clinton's Presidency ended close to 16 years ago just in case you folk have forgotten & his not ever running again.He would have won a 3rd term in a landslide against W Bush if the constitution allowed, and that's a fact. ..what's the word,  oh yeah: Jack.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Keep telling yourself that and maybe you will start believing it.  I have not talked to anyone who is

jumping ship.  I think they are playing with the poll numbers which is bringing out more and more

Trump supporters thinking they need to shore up the lines.  The pu party is running scared.

RL

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 10, 2016

That's right,  you don't need any freaking distractions. How would you like it if the Clinton campaign dredged up that married woman who Trump said he attempted to nail on tape & let her sit in the Clinton family box? It's called having a decency of respect.

This just in : Bill Clinton's Presidency ended close to 16 years ago just in case you folk have forgotten & his not ever running again.He would have won a 3rd term in a landslide against W Bush if the constitution allowed, and that's a fact. ..what's the word,  oh yeah: Jack.

The Clintons dont dredge up people to bring in, they bury them.  Decency OR respect? They have neither good grief.

bigbear29

Warren Buffett fires back at Donald Trump's comments about his taxes:

Warren Buffett responded Monday to Donald Trump's attacks on his tax payments, offering income tax information and criticizing the Republican presidential nominee for not releasing his own tax records.

In Sunday night's presidential debate in St. Louis, Trump claimed that Buffett took a "massive deduction" while defending his claimed $916 million loss in 1995 that allowed him to avoid federal income tax in at least some years. Buffett, a supporter of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, said Monday that Trump "has not seen my income tax returns."

"I have paid federal income tax every year since 1944, when I was 13. (Though, being a slow starter, I owed only $7 in tax that year.) I have copies of all 72 of my returns and none uses a carryforward," Buffett said in a statement.

Trump has gone against recent presidential nominee precedent in not releasing tax returns, claiming he cannot because he is under audit. His election rival Clinton and other critics have contended he refuses to do so because the returns would expose use of tax loopholes, potential conflicts of interest in his business dealings or fewer charitable contributions than he publicly claims.

Buffett, the billionaire CEO of Berkshire Hathaway, said he is currently under audit and has "no problem in releasing (his) tax information while under audit."

"Neither would Mr. Trump — at least he would have no legal problem," Buffett said in a statement.

Buffett said that his 2015 return shows adjusted gross income of $11.56 million. He had total deductions of $5.48 million, which includes $3.47 million for allowable charitable contributions. He said he paid federal income tax of $1.85 million.

Buffett said he made $2.86 billion in charitable contributions for the year. More than $2.85 billion was not taken as deductions.

 

Warren Buffett to Trump: 'I have paid federal income tax every year since 1944'

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

bb

I hope he locks them away for ever and never releases them to the public just to drive you crazy.

If his tax returns do show that he is worth billions will you vote for him?  If not then what's the reason

you keep bringing it up because none of his supporters give a crap one way or the other. 

RL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 10, 2016

The Clintons dont dredge up people to bring in, they bury them.  Decency OR respect? They have neither good grief.

Name these people that they have killed? Not Internet conspiracy theories. Here's something else to think about,  if you can attempt to do that. If the Clinton's are so devious & evil,  how is it that not a single criminal charge has ever been brought & successfully prosecuted against them.A BJ does not qualify as a crime unless you have never experienced one okay. No one is that good in doing evil. For 30 odd years *they have dredged up all kinds of crap & failed. perhaps it's time you guys quit attempting to alter destiny. 

bigbear29

That is the problem, trump can not win the white house if he does not increase his supporters/voters.

noise-gate

Each time I see him in that red hat l am reminded of Freddie Krueger. 

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 10, 2016

That's right,  you don't need any freaking distractions. How would you like it if the Clinton campaign dredged up that married woman who Trump said he attempted to nail on tape & let her sit in the Clinton family box? It's called having a decency of respect.

This just in : Bill Clinton's Presidency ended close to 16 years ago just in case you folk have forgotten & his not ever running again.He would have won a 3rd term in a landslide against W Bush if the constitution allowed, and that's a fact. ..what's the word,  oh yeah: Jack.

If you don't think the the things that were done in the White House that involved Monica on her knees are bad, then you 

deserve to have Hillary as the next President. Bill IS running again, he will go right back into the White House which he

made the whorehouse, he disgraced this country and you want to talk about Trump having no respect? Clinton, in fact,

both of them have sunk to the lowest low by having the nerve to show their faces after such a disgrace to the American

people. I don't care if it is 100 years later, he did it and you accept it and want to talk about some words?? I'm adult 

enough to let it slide. We have all heard that at some point in our lives and you're making it big news LOL...at least he

didn't do what amounts to disgracing our great flag and country. What POS Bill did amounted symbolically to having

sex on the flag of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. He is the real filth he acted, Trump spoke...11 YEARS AGO.

You are a sell out and fit right in with what they're doing to this country and you. And that's the ONLY fact, JACK.

 

LISTEN TO THE CHEERING AT THAT RALLY.....WHAT A BUNCH OF LOSERS, RIGHT??? WRONG and so

are YOU. 

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 10, 2016

Each time I see him in that red hat l am reminded of Freddie Krueger. 

And each time I see Hillary Clinton standing on her own two feet, I'm reminded of the WALKING DEAD.

 

Dead morals, dead ideas, dead truth, dead marriage, dead end, dead beat, dead leadership and DEAD SELL OUT.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Some say politics is offensive and Hill say politics more like sausage "making" Hit With Stick ChairBlue Thinking Evil Argue Argue

Wikileaks say:

          it's definitely a "Clinton"

 PartyPartySAUSAGE PARTY PartyParty

bigbear29

Trump needs white women with college degrees,  Hillary has 60%, trump has 33%

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 10, 2016

The only two that have a chance to win is Hillary and trump on the ballot.  If you write in some ones name, than why vote at all?

You really AREN'T too bright, are you?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 10, 2016

If you don't think the the things that were done in the White House that involved Monica on her knees are bad, then you 

deserve to have Hillary as the next President. Bill IS running again, he will go right back into the White House which he

made the whorehouse, he disgraced this country and you want to talk about Trump having no respect? Clinton, in fact,

both of them have sunk to the lowest low by having the nerve to show their faces after such a disgrace to the American

people. I don't care if it is 100 years later, he did it and you accept it and want to talk about some words?? I'm adult 

enough to let it slide. We have all heard that at some point in our lives and you're making it big news LOL...at least he

didn't do what amounts to disgracing our great flag and country. What POS Bill did amounted symbolically to having

sex on the flag of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. He is the real filth he acted, Trump spoke...11 YEARS AGO.

You are a sell out and fit right in with what they're doing to this country and you. And that's the ONLY fact, JACK.

 

LISTEN TO THE CHEERING AT THAT RALLY.....WHAT A BUNCH OF LOSERS, RIGHT??? WRONG and so

are YOU. 

You make very good points- l will grant you that. However people KNEW that Clinton was a womanizer BEFORE holding office. He was not elected to be a Pastor,  he was elected and ran on the theme " it's the economy stupid. " He got that rolling whether people want to give him credit or not. What he did in the Oval Office was a disgrace,  no doubt but consider far worse things have been done from that very same office.The nation was tuned in from that office informing us that there were weapons of mass destruction being put together in a foreign land & unless we act, they could land on our shores . Which to you is worst? A BJ or our fellow citizens returning in bodybags? I can't recall anyone dying over Clinton's act in the Oval Office. .can you? When Clinton bombed Yugoslavia because of human atrocities- not a single American lost their life, to the best of my recollection. What does that say about a Commander in chief that has his eye on the ball? Will you say it? 

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

I didn't watch the debate, but DID watch the first episode of the new series "Westworld". There were several scenes where flies landed on the robot's faces, but they didn't swat at them since they had been programmed to not harm any living thing. When I heard about the fly on Hillary's face, I thought I'd make a comparison, but the Internet beat me to it.

 photo hillary-clinton-fly-westworld_zpsxwf4kivh.jpg

I wonder why Hillary didn't just use her lizard tongue and zap that fly off her forehead?

bigbear29

Please explain

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

PartyPartyPartyPartyPartyPartyParty

Keep it coming

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 10, 2016

Please explain

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Maybe the fly was a wireless device used for mind control.

RL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Or maybe it was just a fly.  BTW we all know flies are attracted to.....

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 10, 2016

Maybe the fly was a wireless device used for mind control.

RL

Might have been, RL.  Maybe it was a Soros fly, with him behind the curtains with a remote controller.

 photo clinton-puppet-alinsky_zps15vtdph3.jpg

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Trump pulled this won "out">>>>>PartyDanceParty         

   mon.....now D fly in D ointment.....can Hill pull it out??????.....dat girl need hep rite.....now mon

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 10, 2016

You make very good points- l will grant you that. However people KNEW that Clinton was a womanizer BEFORE holding office. He was not elected to be a Pastor,  he was elected and ran on the theme " it's the economy stupid. " He got that rolling whether people want to give him credit or not. What he did in the Oval Office was a disgrace,  no doubt but consider far worse things have been done from that very same office.The nation was tuned in from that office informing us that there were weapons of mass destruction being put together in a foreign land & unless we act, they could land on our shores . Which to you is worst? A BJ or our fellow citizens returning in bodybags? I can't recall anyone dying over Clinton's act in the Oval Office. .can you? When Clinton bombed Yugoslavia because of human atrocities- not a single American lost their life, to the best of my recollection. What does that say about a Commander in chief that has his eye on the ball? Will you say it? 

noise-gate

I agree to some extent with both of you but the Clinton economy got a big boost when the dot coms took center stage.

Remember the Al Gore line, "I created the internet." 

RL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 10, 2016

noise-gate

I agree to some extent with both of you but the Clinton economy got a big boost when the dot coms took center stage.

Remember the Al Gore line, "I created the internet." 

RL

I guess everyone forgets who the President was before Clinton.  Reagan then Bush the senior.  It was the pro-business Reagan policy that helped many of those dot-coms succeed.  Trump has a similar policy, lower taxes and get business suffocating regulation the heck out of the way.  Bill Clinton had very little to do with that.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 10, 2016

noise-gate

I agree to some extent with both of you but the Clinton economy got a big boost when the dot coms took center stage.

Remember the Al Gore line, "I created the internet." 

RL

l give credit where credit is due. Just as l give credit to Reagan for getting the hostages freed. Those B one bomber did not have to take off to get his point across to Iran.Clinton got a good hand by coming in just at the right time, what also matters is the surplus he left when his presidency was over. We have to be fair. I have never said that Trump is a bad business man- l just think his not presidential material, that's all. 

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 10, 2016

I didn't watch the debate, but DID watch the first episode of the new series "Westworld". There were several scenes where flies landed on the robot's faces, but they didn't swat at them since they had been programmed to not harm any living thing. When I heard about the fly on Hillary's face, I thought I'd make a comparison, but the Internet beat me to it.

 photo hillary-clinton-fly-westworld_zpsxwf4kivh.jpg

I wonder why Hillary didn't just use her lizard tongue and zap that fly off her forehead?

               ROFL     lizard tongue...... ROFL  I needed that laugh Mike... thanks..

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Another Trump rally soon to start in Wilkes-Barre, PA.  This guy draws thousands and thousands of people.  Hillary draws flies.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 10, 2016

That's right,  you don't need any freaking distractions. How would you like it if the Clinton campaign dredged up that married woman who Trump said he attempted to nail on tape & let her sit in the Clinton family box? It's called having a decency of respect.

This just in : Bill Clinton's Presidency ended close to 16 years ago just in case you folk have forgotten & his not ever running again.He would have won a 3rd term in a landslide against W Bush if the constitution allowed, and that's a fact. ..what's the word,  oh yeah: Jack.

This post, without due respect noise-gate, is totally contradictory. Did you think about this when you wrote it?

Distractions, you sound like a Hillary-bot...she talks distractions all the time and is the Queen of distraction and

double talk.

Let her drum up whatever Trump did because in no way will it ever compare to the things she's done to this 

country for so many years. She's crooked Washington politics, that's all. That's not leadership, that's a joke.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 10, 2016

I guess everyone forgets who the President was before Clinton.  Reagan then Bush the senior.  It was the pro-business Reagan policy that helped many of those dot-coms succeed.  Trump has a similar policy, lower taxes and get business suffocating regulation the heck out of the way.  Bill Clinton had very little to do with that.

Yep, lots of factors in that.  There was also the Republican/Gingrich Revolution of '94, giving Republicans a huge gain in seats in the House - where the actual "power of the purse" lies.   It also helped that OPEC started squabbling among themselves, dropping the price of oil and, as is always the case, cheaper energy costs help drive the U.S. economy.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 10, 2016

Another Trump rally soon to start in Wilkes-Barre, PA.  This guy draws thousands and thousands of people.  Hillary draws flies.

I love it...saw the last one by Pittsburg. I'll enjoy watching this one too GB. You are right, lots of support.

The naysayers are blinded by HiLLIAR's fact checker...lmao, available at her website...lie spreader more

like it..

GO TRUMP!!!

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 10, 2016

               ROFL     lizard tongue...... ROFL  I needed that laugh Mike... thanks..

I posted that on my Facebook wall and a long time online friend from New Zealand said she literally LOL'd, causing her husband to come in to see what was so funny. 

Another friend from Great Britain had P.M.'d me, saying she hoped Trump wouldn't be elected, that he would bring the world to war and I assured her his talk was just campaign rhetoric, designed to rile up his base..same as does just about every other politician.  I then started sending her links to articles about Hillary's scandals and eventually she begged me to stop, saying that Clinton made "the royal lot" look like angels in comparison. 

Speaking of Brits, I just noticed JK Rowling had condemned Trump on her Twitter account.  Wish she'd stay out of American politics, but she's probably still gobsmacked at the Brexit results.  The only people she'll influence are most likely those younger eligible voters who grew up on Harry Potter and who have a Sorting Hat on the shelf and who still practice spells with their 8.5 inch willow wand with a dragon heartstring core.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Speaking of Facebook, last week I saw a notice asking if I was registered to vote. I knew I was, because I regularly vote and they sent me a new card, so....Anyway, they had also posted links to all the candidate's Facebook pages and on a lark, went and checked the number of followers for each:

Jill Stein 600,450

Gary Johnson 1,642,102

Hillary Clinton 6,790,285

Donald J. Trump 11,087,156

Doesn't mean a thing, but those numbers contradict most of the MSM's polls.

After Trump's recent scandal (most recent, I should add), I decided to see if it had affected his support on his page, thinking that if there were that many of his followers offended by it, it would show up in a decrease.   The updated numbers for Trump and Clinton:

Hillary Clinton 6,790,285 to 6,817,060 + 26,775

Donald J. Trump 11,087,156 to 11,111,815 + 24,659

Hillary had out-gained Trump by 2,116...which is, coincidentally, the exact number of Republicans, movie stars, entertainers and Rudy Guliani's daughter who have spoken out against him.


Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Hillary is as phony as can be;

Hillary Worried About Jihadists Entering With Refugees In Private Speech. http://tiny.iavian.net/csz3
Not to worry when you have an  armed guard protecting you...
_________________________________________________________________
Hillary Makes Racist Remarks
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/justinholcomb/2016/08/26/new-trump-add-shows-racist-remarks-made-by-clinton-in-1994-n2210393
townhall.com
When dealing with "super-predators" in society, it is the government's job to bring them to "heel." This is what Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton had to say about ...
LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 10, 2016

Hillary is as phony as can be;

Hillary Worried About Jihadists Entering With Refugees In Private Speech. http://tiny.iavian.net/csz3
Not to worry when you have an  armed guard protecting you...
_________________________________________________________________
Hillary Makes Racist Remarks
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/justinholcomb/2016/08/26/new-trump-add-shows-racist-remarks-made-by-clinton-in-1994-n2210393
townhall.com
When dealing with "super-predators" in society, it is the government's job to bring them to "heel." This is what Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton had to say about ...

Yea, she says one thing in public and another in private.  What a pos she is.  Is she concerned about Americans who would be killed in a terrorist attack because she let them in for political correctness?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 10, 2016

This post, without due respect noise-gate, is totally contradictory. Did you think about this when you wrote it?

Distractions, you sound like a Hillary-bot...she talks distractions all the time and is the Queen of distraction and

double talk.

Let her drum up whatever Trump did because in no way will it ever compare to the things she's done to this 

country for so many years. She's crooked Washington politics, that's all. That's not leadership, that's a joke.

All politicians  talk distractions, the problem with folk like yourself,  you think your candidate of choice is dressed in white & rides a white horse. Just stop with the BS You can go way back to Reagan and beyond. When asked why it was necessary to invade Grenada Reagan's response was " They were trying to steal nutmeg."Hillary learned from the best, Reagan,  her husband and others as well. Take Trump last night- the first question out of the shoot for Trump was asking him about the tape.What did he do.. within 10-15 seconds he pivots to talking about bombing ISIS. Good Lord if that is not a distraction what the heck is? Trump knows only to well how to play to his crowd,  throw them some red meat like " l will bomb Isis, l will bring jobs back, l will make America Great again, nice soundbites but total nonsense. Those promises are way up there with the " 40 acres and a mule" statement. 

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

This just in:  They found the fly which had been landing on Hillary's face...dead, shot in the back of the head three times.

The police have ruled it a suicide.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 10, 2016

This just in:  They found the fly which had been landing on Hillary's face...dead, shot in the back of the head three times.

The police have ruled it a suicide.

Omg! Lol

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 10, 2016

Name these people that they have killed? Not Internet conspiracy theories. Here's something else to think about,  if you can attempt to do that. If the Clinton's are so devious & evil,  how is it that not a single criminal charge has ever been brought & successfully prosecuted against them.A BJ does not qualify as a crime unless you have never experienced one okay. No one is that good in doing evil. For 30 odd years *they have dredged up all kinds of crap & failed. perhaps it's time you guys quit attempting to alter destiny. 

All knowing seer, since YOU said I said they killed, why dont you name them?

Why havent they been charged?  This is a corrupt administration, a complicit media working to get her that office.  If they did their jobs, she would be sitting in prison not running for office.

Absolutely they are evil and devious.

Your other issues are not worth discussing, not that any of them are.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 10, 2016

l wouldn't be surprised. Trump opened the door to that prospect and if someone did come forward- he would take it in the shorts. The other thing l noticed is that he feels the Oval office can be used for personal vendetta against his opponents. He said that he would " investigate" that federal judge who was looking into his business tactics. Tonight he said that " when l am President, l will appoint a special prosecutor.." Is this guy nuts? That sort of thing happens in 3rd world countries where your political opponents are arrested and thrown in jail or gone missing for good. One thing l will say, he threw a lot of red meat to his 35% base with the remark of " you will be in jail." Thing is you cannot win the election with a 35%-40% base.. Bash.. ..Try telling them that though. Btw what on earth was with that behavior of him creeping in on her personal space by standing behind her, looming over her like a grizzly bear attempting to intimidate her? My wife even said " With the heck is that all about?

"Thing is you cannot win the election with a 35%-40% base."

I Agree! and it's amazing considering this a lottery based discussion forum how many people are ignorant of the math. Clinton started with a 45% base and that number never dropped. With all the recent Republican defections, Trump's current base is probably around 35%. A week ago, both Florida and Pennsylvania were must wins for Trump assuming he would win Ohio, but the last Ohio poll showed Trump losing by 4 points.

Ohio's Governor Kasich never endorsed Trump and Senator Portman just withdrew his support for Trump. Will Portman's supporters vote for Trump, John McCain's supporters, or Johnson's in Wisconsin?

"Btw what on earth was with that behavior of him creeping in on her personal space by standing behind her, looming over her like a grizzly bear attempting to intimidate her?"

IMO, it was probably done to make it appear he was stalking her to appease his anti-Clinton base. Look at the Clinton hate stuff posted here in the last two days; and that was after over 150 Republican past and present Governors, Senators and House Reps came out against Trump.

Have to give them credit for sticking with their candidate that has less than a 1% chance of winning.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 10, 2016

All politicians  talk distractions, the problem with folk like yourself,  you think your candidate of choice is dressed in white & rides a white horse. Just stop with the BS You can go way back to Reagan and beyond. When asked why it was necessary to invade Grenada Reagan's response was " They were trying to steal nutmeg."Hillary learned from the best, Reagan,  her husband and others as well. Take Trump last night- the first question out of the shoot for Trump was asking him about the tape.What did he do.. within 10-15 seconds he pivots to talking about bombing ISIS. Good Lord if that is not a distraction what the heck is? Trump knows only to well how to play to his crowd,  throw them some red meat like " l will bomb Isis, l will bring jobs back, l will make America Great again, nice soundbites but total nonsense. Those promises are way up there with the " 40 acres and a mule" statement. 

The rest of the world isn't a happy place like California noise.  Heaven forbid if a bearded man runs into your workplace holding an AK screaming allah akbar just before he blows the heads off your co-workers...Believe me, the last thing on your mind will be what Trump said in that video.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 10, 2016

The rest of the world isn't a happy place like California noise.  Heaven forbid if a bearded man runs into your workplace holding an AK screaming allah akbar just before he blows the heads off your co-workers...Believe me, the last thing on your mind will be what Trump said in that video.

Trump said that had he been President during the bush years" Officer Khan would not have died. " l almost threw up in my mouth. This colossal Pr**  will say anything to get his base riled up. So under a Trump administration- no one will get shot by people of Muslim descent...BSHow can you carry water for this guy?

** By the way, how is Trump going to bring manufacturing jobs back to the US when his suits are made in China..As someone once asked? 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 10, 2016

"Thing is you cannot win the election with a 35%-40% base."

I Agree! and it's amazing considering this a lottery based discussion forum how many people are ignorant of the math. Clinton started with a 45% base and that number never dropped. With all the recent Republican defections, Trump's current base is probably around 35%. A week ago, both Florida and Pennsylvania were must wins for Trump assuming he would win Ohio, but the last Ohio poll showed Trump losing by 4 points.

Ohio's Governor Kasich never endorsed Trump and Senator Portman just withdrew his support for Trump. Will Portman's supporters vote for Trump, John McCain's supporters, or Johnson's in Wisconsin?

"Btw what on earth was with that behavior of him creeping in on her personal space by standing behind her, looming over her like a grizzly bear attempting to intimidate her?"

IMO, it was probably done to make it appear he was stalking her to appease his anti-Clinton base. Look at the Clinton hate stuff posted here in the last two days; and that was after over 150 Republican past and present Governors, Senators and House Reps came out against Trump.

Have to give them credit for sticking with their candidate that has less than a 1% chance of winning.

Give it up stack.  Forget the polls and forget the establishment Republicans dropping Trump.  Look at the rallies.  Trump draws thousands and thousands of Americans, Hillary draws hundreds if that.  This is a major movement to take our country back from corrupt politicians in DC.  Hillary and the media will lose.  This is big.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

What can't you understand about that statement noise?   He died in Iraq, if there was no war then he wouldn't have died there.  A child can understand that.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 10, 2016

What can't you understand about that statement noise?   He died in Iraq, if there was no war then he wouldn't have died there.  A child can understand that.

But Trump VOTED for the WAR! How do you as President who voted for the war AVOID casualties? 

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 10, 2016

Give it up stack.  Forget the polls and forget the establishment Republicans dropping Trump.  Look at the rallies.  Trump draws thousands and thousands of Americans, Hillary draws hundreds if that.  This is a major movement to take our country back from corrupt politicians in DC.  Hillary and the media will lose.  This is big.

I Agree!    US Flag  I Agree! US Flag I Agree! US Flag

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Look at all the people at the Trump rally I posted.  Thousands and thousands on a Monday night.  LOL

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 10, 2016

But Trump VOTED for the WAR! How do you as President who voted for the war AVOID casualties? 

No he didn't  Clinton and Obama voted for the war, Trump never ever said he was for the war and was in no way involved with the vote.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 10, 2016

Look at all the people at the Trump rally I posted.  Thousands and thousands on a Monday night.  LOL

That's all well & good, but how many females in that audience would allow Trump to grab them by the p****  if they would say " go ahead" then they dumber than they look.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 10, 2016

That's all well & good, but how many females in that audience would allow Trump to grab them by the p****  if they would say " go ahead" then they dumber than they look.

Oh and women don't talk about grabbing mens....  Give me a break noise.  Yea, I guess women in California are nuns huh?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

It is interesting this nut brands a woman a nun unless she talks about grabbing mens....  Most women fall into neither category. He has seen too many episodes of Sex in the city. I guess his "dates" come from street corners. He has a bizarre Freudian view of women and how we talk. No woman friend, family member, colleague or acquaintance of mine has ever made a statement like that in my presence. But I do not associate with vulgar trash.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Hey guys

After stepping back and rereading a few post I have decided to stop posting to this topic.  It's getting

way to personal and looks more like bulling then anything else.  Maybe Todd will remove the blowup of

the Fly picture, it's really demeaning.   I don't often do things that make me feel ashamed afterward but

that one does. 

RL

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 10, 2016

This just in:  They found the fly which had been landing on Hillary's face...dead, shot in the back of the head three times.

The police have ruled it a suicide.

         Now you really made my day Mike....  ROFL

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 10, 2016

Hey guys

After stepping back and rereading a few post I have decided to stop posting to this topic.  It's getting

way to personal and looks more like bulling then anything else.  Maybe Todd will remove the blowup of

the Fly picture, it's really demeaning.   I don't often do things that make me feel ashamed afterward but

that one does. 

RL

You were never one of the bullies.

bigbear29

Poll: Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump by 14 points nationally:

Hillary Clinton has opened up a 14-percentage-point lead against Donald Trump nationally, according to an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Monday.

The survey found that in a two-way race between the two nominees, Clinton leads Trump 52 percent to 38 percent, up from a 7-percentage-point lead last month.

In a four-way race involving third-party candidates, Clinton leads Trump by 11 percentage points -- 46 percent to 35 percent, up from Clinton’s 6-percentage-point lead in last month’s poll.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 10, 2016

Give it up stack.  Forget the polls and forget the establishment Republicans dropping Trump.  Look at the rallies.  Trump draws thousands and thousands of Americans, Hillary draws hundreds if that.  This is a major movement to take our country back from corrupt politicians in DC.  Hillary and the media will lose.  This is big.

"Look at the rallies. Trump draws thousands and thousands of Americans,"

Congrats.

"Hillary draws hundreds if that."

Really, I didn't know that, but I know as of two years ago, 39% of Americans identified with the Republican Party and 43% with the Democrats. Not to rub it in, but how exactly can Trump overcome starting out 4 points behind by losing Republican support?

"This is a major movement to take our country back from corrupt politicians in DC."

Thinking like that is why over 150 top Republicans removed their Support of Trump. In case you didn't know, the Republicans now control the House and Senate so the majority of your "corrupt politicians in DC" are members of the same party that nominated Trump. Why all the "doom and gloom"; is your life that myserable?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 10, 2016

No he didn't  Clinton and Obama voted for the war, Trump never ever said he was for the war and was in no way involved with the vote.

"Clinton and Obama voted for the war"

Ever hear of doing a "google search"?

Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate more than a year and 1/2 after the Iraq war started. And what makes your remarks even more stupid is the fact Obama opposed going to war and spoke at an anti war rally the same day Congress voted on the war resolution. Obama said:

Now let me be clear – I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He’s a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history. I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of Al Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars.

When asked if he supported going to war with Iraq, Trump was less articulate, "Yeah, I guess so,"

Seriously, Kellyanne Conway is dumber than a box of rocks; do your own research unless you enjoy being as dumb as she.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 10, 2016

You were never one of the bullies.

Do you think RL was sent risque photos of Drerick1 in bikinis too?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

If you want the country to continue on a path of self destruction vote for Hillary.

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.

Abraham Lincoln

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 10, 2016

Hey guys

After stepping back and rereading a few post I have decided to stop posting to this topic.  It's getting

way to personal and looks more like bulling then anything else.  Maybe Todd will remove the blowup of

the Fly picture, it's really demeaning.   I don't often do things that make me feel ashamed afterward but

that one does. 

RL

You made it personal when you questioned my military service, when you laugh and patted the other buffoons' backs for posting the same type of stuff you're now asking to be taken down. Isn't way too late to "feel ashamed"?

"Remember the Al Gore line, "I created the internet."

I'm pretty sure Al Gore said he "took the initiative" in many things while in Congress including the creation of the Internet. Vinton Cerf said: "Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the Internet and to promote and support its development."

You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 10, 2016

If you want the country to continue on a path of self destruction vote for Hillary.

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.

Abraham Lincoln

Did you miss the list of Republicans calling for Trump to drop out?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 10, 2016

This just in:  They found the fly which had been landing on Hillary's face...dead, shot in the back of the head three times.

The police have ruled it a suicide.

rotflmao

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 10, 2016

This just in:  They found the fly which had been landing on Hillary's face...dead, shot in the back of the head three times.

The police have ruled it a suicide.

LMFAO!!!

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 10, 2016

This just in:  They found the fly which had been landing on Hillary's face...dead, shot in the back of the head three times.

The police have ruled it a suicide.

The cops said the gun was found next to it's right legs. But all the other flies said it was left legged.  Green laugh

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 10, 2016

Name these people that they have killed? Not Internet conspiracy theories. Here's something else to think about,  if you can attempt to do that. If the Clinton's are so devious & evil,  how is it that not a single criminal charge has ever been brought & successfully prosecuted against them.A BJ does not qualify as a crime unless you have never experienced one okay. No one is that good in doing evil. For 30 odd years *they have dredged up all kinds of crap & failed. perhaps it's time you guys quit attempting to alter destiny. 

Perhaps it's time for you to take your blinders off and the chip they apparently inserted into your brain somehow.

They've blinded and short circuited your better judgement. 

No one gets away with what the Clinton's are accused of, suspected of, proven to have been a part of and outright

guilty of unless they ARE the Clinton's. Money talks. They've used their dirty money to hush, hide, control, intimidate,

force and buy the people, organizations, government entities, political members and hearts of our some members of

our great nation. They've cheated, swindled, lied under oath, stolen and bartered. Deals for donations, special favors 

for countries who are guilty of human rights violations, supported nations with dictators, women's rights offenders and

terrorist hot spots. Just because someone is smiling doesn't make them trustworthy. That smile on her face isn't warm

and inviting at all..it's arrogant and got smaller last night though, she was hit where it hurt..she didn't look too peppy for 

awhile. I guess she must have been thinking about jail...read the wiki leaks emails, someone said she has a problem

with being honest...too many lies....wow, is that so??? Green laughI hope you're not black, noisy..she's uneasy around the African

American community...she does not fit in and you can see it in their eyes, they don't believe what she says. She's a rich

white, elite that can't relate. They want to believe someone will help but for all her visits and mingling with churches and

blacks she still is what she is...someone who goes home to privilege and comfort. She can sleep at night. How in the he*ll

are you going to be able to?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 10, 2016

Perhaps it's time for you to take your blinders off and the chip they apparently inserted into your brain somehow.

They've blinded and short circuited your better judgement. 

No one gets away with what the Clinton's are accused of, suspected of, proven to have been a part of and outright

guilty of unless they ARE the Clinton's. Money talks. They've used their dirty money to hush, hide, control, intimidate,

force and buy the people, organizations, government entities, political members and hearts of our some members of

our great nation. They've cheated, swindled, lied under oath, stolen and bartered. Deals for donations, special favors 

for countries who are guilty of human rights violations, supported nations with dictators, women's rights offenders and

terrorist hot spots. Just because someone is smiling doesn't make them trustworthy. That smile on her face isn't warm

and inviting at all..it's arrogant and got smaller last night though, she was hit where it hurt..she didn't look too peppy for 

awhile. I guess she must have been thinking about jail...read the wiki leaks emails, someone said she has a problem

with being honest...too many lies....wow, is that so??? Green laughI hope you're not black, noisy..she's uneasy around the African

American community...she does not fit in and you can see it in their eyes, they don't believe what she says. She's a rich

white, elite that can't relate. They want to believe someone will help but for all her visits and mingling with churches and

blacks she still is what she is...someone who goes home to privilege and comfort. She can sleep at night. How in the he*ll

are you going to be able to?

You must have missed where Noise asked "Name these people that they have killed? Not Internet conspiracy theories."

Why is so difficult for you to understand the significance of top Republicans calling for Trump to step down?

Are you really that stupid?

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 10, 2016

Perhaps it's time for you to take your blinders off and the chip they apparently inserted into your brain somehow.

They've blinded and short circuited your better judgement. 

No one gets away with what the Clinton's are accused of, suspected of, proven to have been a part of and outright

guilty of unless they ARE the Clinton's. Money talks. They've used their dirty money to hush, hide, control, intimidate,

force and buy the people, organizations, government entities, political members and hearts of our some members of

our great nation. They've cheated, swindled, lied under oath, stolen and bartered. Deals for donations, special favors 

for countries who are guilty of human rights violations, supported nations with dictators, women's rights offenders and

terrorist hot spots. Just because someone is smiling doesn't make them trustworthy. That smile on her face isn't warm

and inviting at all..it's arrogant and got smaller last night though, she was hit where it hurt..she didn't look too peppy for 

awhile. I guess she must have been thinking about jail...read the wiki leaks emails, someone said she has a problem

with being honest...too many lies....wow, is that so??? Green laughI hope you're not black, noisy..she's uneasy around the African

American community...she does not fit in and you can see it in their eyes, they don't believe what she says. She's a rich

white, elite that can't relate. They want to believe someone will help but for all her visits and mingling with churches and

blacks she still is what she is...someone who goes home to privilege and comfort. She can sleep at night. How in the he*ll

are you going to be able to?

   dr65.. you mentioned in this post that no one gets away with what Hillary has done..... does anyone remember that Martha Stewart got prison time cause she lied to the FBI...so what makes Hillary different cause she is a Clinton...?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 10, 2016

If you don't think the the things that were done in the White House that involved Monica on her knees are bad, then you 

deserve to have Hillary as the next President. Bill IS running again, he will go right back into the White House which he

made the whorehouse, he disgraced this country and you want to talk about Trump having no respect? Clinton, in fact,

both of them have sunk to the lowest low by having the nerve to show their faces after such a disgrace to the American

people. I don't care if it is 100 years later, he did it and you accept it and want to talk about some words?? I'm adult 

enough to let it slide. We have all heard that at some point in our lives and you're making it big news LOL...at least he

didn't do what amounts to disgracing our great flag and country. What POS Bill did amounted symbolically to having

sex on the flag of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. He is the real filth he acted, Trump spoke...11 YEARS AGO.

You are a sell out and fit right in with what they're doing to this country and you. And that's the ONLY fact, JACK.

 

LISTEN TO THE CHEERING AT THAT RALLY.....WHAT A BUNCH OF LOSERS, RIGHT??? WRONG and so

are YOU. 

So l take it that your main beef with Bill Clinton's is SEX.  After all you mentioned Monica in your very first line. Poor thing. Oh you mentioned whorehouse... more sex. What's with you and your fascination with sex? You mention nothing about job growth during Clinton's his years in office, is it because you were more focused on his sex life as many of the republicans were back and till are? Are you by chance a Pastor's son? 

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 10, 2016

Perhaps it's time for you to take your blinders off and the chip they apparently inserted into your brain somehow.

They've blinded and short circuited your better judgement. 

No one gets away with what the Clinton's are accused of, suspected of, proven to have been a part of and outright

guilty of unless they ARE the Clinton's. Money talks. They've used their dirty money to hush, hide, control, intimidate,

force and buy the people, organizations, government entities, political members and hearts of our some members of

our great nation. They've cheated, swindled, lied under oath, stolen and bartered. Deals for donations, special favors 

for countries who are guilty of human rights violations, supported nations with dictators, women's rights offenders and

terrorist hot spots. Just because someone is smiling doesn't make them trustworthy. That smile on her face isn't warm

and inviting at all..it's arrogant and got smaller last night though, she was hit where it hurt..she didn't look too peppy for 

awhile. I guess she must have been thinking about jail...read the wiki leaks emails, someone said she has a problem

with being honest...too many lies....wow, is that so??? Green laughI hope you're not black, noisy..she's uneasy around the African

American community...she does not fit in and you can see it in their eyes, they don't believe what she says. She's a rich

white, elite that can't relate. They want to believe someone will help but for all her visits and mingling with churches and

blacks she still is what she is...someone who goes home to privilege and comfort. She can sleep at night. How in the he*ll

are you going to be able to?

Do you even read what you put out there before posting? You wrote this..

No one gets away with what the Clinton's are accused of, suspected of,

guilty of unless they ARE the Clinton's.

Dictionary definition of  Accused : 


:a person who has been arrested for or formally charged with a crime : the defendant in a criminal case <the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial — U.S. Constitution amend.

 

When was Hillary arrested and charged with a crime genius? Once again : Who are these people the Clinton's have had killed=- if you cannot produce any proof but just accusations , l would suggest you shut your gob as the British love to say. Btw, You come across as insecure especially when talking about the black community, you do know that there are blacks in Arkansas or do you think she had to travel outside her State to get to know them? Hillary is " uneasy around blacks you can see it in their eyes?" Are you black seeing that you can pick up on her uneasiness, you know what they say- it takes one to know one. Nevertheless, black or not- My impression of you is that you come across as a racist.

 

 

 

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 10, 2016

   dr65.. you mentioned in this post that no one gets away with what Hillary has done..... does anyone remember that Martha Stewart got prison time cause she lied to the FBI...so what makes Hillary different cause she is a Clinton...?

Comey- the FBI director is a Republican, both him and his team of agents found no criminal charges were warranted. So pissed off were they that they hauled the guy before a special hearing " to explain himself." 

All these republican hearings are geared for one thing and one thing only: Get Hillary so they can anoint Trump as President. Oh the Horror. l will tell you what, if that ever happened- there would come a time in his presidency where many of the republicans would say " This A hole does not listen to us, we sure wish we could have had Hillary instead. Before you go off the rails.. ask yourself- does Trump listen to the republican leadership at present, what kind of atmosphere would you expect between both branches of govt once he got elected?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 10, 2016

Did you miss the list of Republicans calling for Trump to drop out?

They calling on him to drop out because his got the " make a deal mentality." When the republican leadership speaks to him and gives him advice, he lets it percolate inside his brain and then rejects it. His constantly in " business Mode" At this last debate the moderator told him how Pence felt about a certain issue- he outright belittles his running mate by saying " he does not agree with him". G Grief- what an jerk instead of saying l will have to discuss this with him- its the " My way or the highway." 

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

It's quite entertaining that so many who are on this board that are striving to win a multi-million dollar jackpot or even a billion dollar one are all so eager to elect a tax-and-spend democrat. Maybe the ultimate tax and spend democrat. 

Bang Head

Green laugh

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 11, 2016

It's quite entertaining that so many who are on this board that are striving to win a multi-million dollar jackpot or even a billion dollar one are all so eager to elect a tax-and-spend democrat. Maybe the ultimate tax and spend democrat. 

Bang Head

Green laugh

I suspect many are already getting Government handouts, they most certainly cannot be tax payers , or they would be angry.

6 billion missing from the State Department under Hildebeast. Our Money.

Lie after lie, Left men to die, can't handle flashes in her eyes, is so evil she attracts flies.

Iran full of our money, now we have missiles aimed at our ships.

She wants open borders, just let anyone in, that way when some nut blows up a bunch of people with pressure cookers, she can come on TV and act like she's saving the day.

Has corrupt and ruined the lives of those her work for her, they all had to take the 5th.

She is twisted with hate, her hero Saul Aslinsky worships the devil, you can't make this stuff up.

We are headed for war in a major way, I don't think it matters who gets elected, Iran Iran Iran.

Many know I went and got a full time job, haven't worked full time since 1999, My husband makes good money and is a wonderful provider, but I sense the writing on the wall, I will work and we will plan and won't get caught for what's about to come. I feel like this is a calm before the storm even with all the chaos.

I think all those getting handouts will be the first to feel the pinch.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 11, 2016

I suspect many are already getting Government handouts, they most certainly cannot be tax payers , or they would be angry.

6 billion missing from the State Department under Hildebeast. Our Money.

Lie after lie, Left men to die, can't handle flashes in her eyes, is so evil she attracts flies.

Iran full of our money, now we have missiles aimed at our ships.

She wants open borders, just let anyone in, that way when some nut blows up a bunch of people with pressure cookers, she can come on TV and act like she's saving the day.

Has corrupt and ruined the lives of those her work for her, they all had to take the 5th.

She is twisted with hate, her hero Saul Aslinsky worships the devil, you can't make this stuff up.

We are headed for war in a major way, I don't think it matters who gets elected, Iran Iran Iran.

Many know I went and got a full time job, haven't worked full time since 1999, My husband makes good money and is a wonderful provider, but I sense the writing on the wall, I will work and we will plan and won't get caught for what's about to come. I feel like this is a calm before the storm even with all the chaos.

I think all those getting handouts will be the first to feel the pinch.

Sully,

When they do feel the pinch, guess where they go to make themselves heard? The streets. To shops, and stores, Walmart. To get their free stuff, then burn the places down. How dare the government take away their free stuff.

This is the calm before the storm. If Hilly gets elected, we're going down the highway to hell, and there's no return. Amazing that people want to elect the same old crap we've elected and expect different results. Repub and Dem. Just praying God help us.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 11, 2016

They calling on him to drop out because his got the " make a deal mentality." When the republican leadership speaks to him and gives him advice, he lets it percolate inside his brain and then rejects it. His constantly in " business Mode" At this last debate the moderator told him how Pence felt about a certain issue- he outright belittles his running mate by saying " he does not agree with him". G Grief- what an jerk instead of saying l will have to discuss this with him- its the " My way or the highway." 

So confused by lies and double talk you can't even see what they're pushing on you. Brainwashed and blind is what anyone

is who believes what they tell you about Trump and yet refuse to pin on themselves. Make a deal mentality? You have got to 

be kidding me..the biggest deal maker is Hillzilla and the loser Democratic party members who negotiate the BIGGEST deals 

so they come out on top and where it counts...their coffers. Need I remind you that the Clinton Foundation is one of the 

biggest corrupt organizations in history? They funnel large percentages of donations right back into their hands to turn and

give it to who they feel will give them the most bang for their dirty buck. 6% of the donations to the Clinton Foundation

were distributed and isn't it convenient that some say 89%? They were up for investigation with a finding of neither 

guilt or innocence. The reason for that was the way they channel, use and distribute the donations. It makes it harder

for an investigation to specify exactly what model they fall under. So really, the 89% cannot be confirmed. Sly Clinton tactics

again. 

Do you know how stupid and just plain naive it is to listen to and believe all the tags they pin on Trump and not put some

thought into it that they fit their own description to a T? Business mode as opposed to a rape our citizens mode is EXACTLY

what this country needs. 

And the remark which you let someone at CNN or another liberal trash reporting agency, about Pence...lol, is not belittling. If 

that's what it is, why are you so eager to accept belittling by Clinton on a daily basis...she's not belittling her circle but she is

putting you down. Every time the lady opens her mouth, something new comes out...it's not a good new either. It's another

lie to reel you in and use you for your vote. Good luck with that self serving wench if she's elected. You are too far gone and

reprogrammed to see her brand of truth for what it is...total and complete BS. That doesn't say very much about you, does it?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 10, 2016

   dr65.. you mentioned in this post that no one gets away with what Hillary has done..... does anyone remember that Martha Stewart got prison time cause she lied to the FBI...so what makes Hillary different cause she is a Clinton...?

Yes! Martha didn't have the Clinton Cash and her pockets weren't deep enough. And pretty much the only place her hands

were in the pantry, the garden and the mixing bowls.

Poor Martha didn't know you needed friends in high places to save you from going to jail...loads of dirty money too.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 11, 2016

So l take it that your main beef with Bill Clinton's is SEX.  After all you mentioned Monica in your very first line. Poor thing. Oh you mentioned whorehouse... more sex. What's with you and your fascination with sex? You mention nothing about job growth during Clinton's his years in office, is it because you were more focused on his sex life as many of the republicans were back and till are? Are you by chance a Pastor's son? 

My main beef with Clinton is that he's tied to Hillary..and they're both tied to big money. Hush money, dirty money

and dirty donations and the more of it they can give in order to get and vice versa, the better. They are corrupt.

She's got the nickname Crooked Hillary for a reason, why don't you go research on a neutral site instead of Hillbot site?

You said I have a fascination with sex? Sex as a topic in my posts amounts to the tiniest fraction, almost microscopic

LOL, of what the bulk of my posts contain. And you want to have tunnel vision and make me a fanatic? I can see who

molded you, they did a good job. Take one statement and make it every single thing I ever said because it fits the

meaningless point you want to make. Go after one thing while making me look like I'm obsessed. That is exactly what

they do to Trump. Why don't you spread the witch hunt over to the Hillary campaign and use it against the real issues

that affect our country? Because you're a go along...satisfied with what they tell you because why? It's safe, that's why.

It's comfortable, that's why. It's easy, that's why but most of all it's what you know as normal and that's good, isn't it?

Well, no, it's not, you are a sell out. No reason to change, as long as you are comfortable and that's all that matters.

It Hillzilla is elected, kiss it goodbye because she's not able to do for you what she told you she will because she will

take care of the special interests first and foremost and that unfortunately for you means you will be left out in the cold.

Then you'll realize you were just one more meaningless nobody added to the long list of HillBilly's used and abused.

It would be sad if you really had an effective argument or principle or anything at all that justifies your position but you

don't, so it isn't sad...you deserve everything coming to you if you get a Clinton/Kaine leadership.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Yea Trumps such a bad guy.  That's what the lying media tells us.  Can anyone tell us if Hateful Hillary would do something like this?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 11, 2016

Yea Trumps such a bad guy.  That's what the lying media tells us.  Can anyone tell us if Hateful Hillary would do something like this?

Yeah, Hillary pretends of course to like them..she had one and quote "could have been home making cookies

....but..." Roll Eyes  Isn't that a bit of a demeaning statement to women? Kids aren't something she likes as much

as power. Nowhere near it.

 

https://youtu.be/8EGranwN_uk

dr65's avatardr65

People don't hear or see more than they let you..bits and clips..and just what they consider the good.

https://youtu.be/IogbTRX0Hdc

dr65's avatardr65

Ryan...might as well have dumped loyalties and become Democrat...

https://youtu.be/48aIvEpLltw

dr65's avatardr65

Let's get this straight...you have until the end of today to register to vote, do it online, easy quick and you're in it

for Nov 8...don't sit back and let the others handle it, get your vote out there...Just make sure you are registered.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 11, 2016

My main beef with Clinton is that he's tied to Hillary..and they're both tied to big money. Hush money, dirty money

and dirty donations and the more of it they can give in order to get and vice versa, the better. They are corrupt.

She's got the nickname Crooked Hillary for a reason, why don't you go research on a neutral site instead of Hillbot site?

You said I have a fascination with sex? Sex as a topic in my posts amounts to the tiniest fraction, almost microscopic

LOL, of what the bulk of my posts contain. And you want to have tunnel vision and make me a fanatic? I can see who

molded you, they did a good job. Take one statement and make it every single thing I ever said because it fits the

meaningless point you want to make. Go after one thing while making me look like I'm obsessed. That is exactly what

they do to Trump. Why don't you spread the witch hunt over to the Hillary campaign and use it against the real issues

that affect our country? Because you're a go along...satisfied with what they tell you because why? It's safe, that's why.

It's comfortable, that's why. It's easy, that's why but most of all it's what you know as normal and that's good, isn't it?

Well, no, it's not, you are a sell out. No reason to change, as long as you are comfortable and that's all that matters.

It Hillzilla is elected, kiss it goodbye because she's not able to do for you what she told you she will because she will

take care of the special interests first and foremost and that unfortunately for you means you will be left out in the cold.

Then you'll realize you were just one more meaningless nobody added to the long list of HillBilly's used and abused.

It would be sad if you really had an effective argument or principle or anything at all that justifies your position but you

don't, so it isn't sad...you deserve everything coming to you if you get a Clinton/Kaine leadership.

..l read what you posted and smh. I have said earlier in my posts that l want the best candidate to lead the country. On election day we will find out what the will of the people is.No amount on climbing on the furniture is going to change that. Despite what you wrote she still leads.l wonder why that is? 

bigbear29

Why Ohio is leaving Donald Trump for Hillary Clinton:

A month ago, the perennial swing state of Ohio was slipping away from Hillary Clinton, who was struggling to win over working class whites and impress jaded millennials.

Trump’s stumbles on the national stage, Ohio observers say, have hurt him with moderate Republicans and independents – voters who may never have been solidly for him but had hesitations about Clinton. That’s left the Clinton organization on firm footing heading into the final month of the race, with early voting set to start on Wednesday. According to the latest CBS News poll, Clinton leads Trump among likely voters in Ohio by four points, 46 percent to 42 percent. 

Along with the lewd videotape that landed last Friday, The New York Times revealed that Trump may have not paid any federal income taxes for nearly two decades. And Newsweek discovered that the most recent Trump construction projects purchased steel and aluminum from manufacturers in China rather than from corporations based in the U.S. 

In Ohio, where layoffs in the steel industry have hit hard over the last two decades, Clinton seized on the opening.

“He claims to be on the side of workers,” Clinton said of Trump on Monday at a rally in Columbus. “He especially likes to talk about how he supports America steel workers. He even had the nerve, this is what kills me, he even had the nerve about how American steel will send skyscrapers soaring. The whole time he was hiding the truth, hiding the fact that he choose to buy illegally dumped Chinese steel instead of American steel.”

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 10, 2016

   dr65.. you mentioned in this post that no one gets away with what Hillary has done..... does anyone remember that Martha Stewart got prison time cause she lied to the FBI...so what makes Hillary different cause she is a Clinton...?

Martha Stewart went to jail for insider trading, yet Hillary got away with making $98,000 in cattle futures trading on tips from Tyson insiders. Who then got favorable treatment while Bill was governor of Arkansas.

Amazing.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 11, 2016

..l read what you posted and smh. I have said earlier in my posts that l want the best candidate to lead the country. On election day we will find out what the will of the people is.No amount on climbing on the furniture is going to change that. Despite what you wrote she still leads.l wonder why that is? 

Ok, good...I want the best candidate too and I believe that's not her. 

She's got media controlled, what makes you think the polls are off limits. Nothing is off limits to her.

Dismal showing for a rally in Kansas...a Baptist rally...lol, reporters were told not to take pictures.

They had to board up the empty space and dim the lights..they had 5,000 seats and less than 1,000

people showed up. 

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/09/09/want-see-many-people-didnt-show-hillarys-kansas-city-rally-ya-go-388457 

Baptist? Get it? I'm not a racist, I'm a realist and thank God people are seeing and have seen the light.

I only talk about black people and how they seem to appear to accept HillZilla...they don't. They know

she doesn't fit in and that she will forget them. She's white trash, elite, corrupt and evil to the core.

Did you know there was white trash or can't I say that? It does exist, it's the 41 year old white males that

rape 14 year old girls and get off with the help of more white trash..an attorney who defended the man 

and told the girl she made it up..it's the old bat who has called black men super predators, is uneasy around

other races, takes on a racist twang trying to fit in...you tell me are they going to follow her to the end of the

world..no way but as long as she can say that Trump says ALL mexicans are rapists, he didn't...and latinos are

fat...and syrian refugees are terrorists they will want to believe what she says. It's like your dope analogy..

I talk about BILLBO in the White House and what he did there and you tell me THAT'S ALWAYS ON MY MIND.

HilZilla, is that YOU??? 

You are showing your feeble mindedness...it's overrun with the notion Hillary has done and can do no wrong.

Can you follow the truth rather than the spin?

bigbear29

Glenn Beck: Hillary Clinton is a 'moral, ethical choice' for Republicans:

Conservative political commentator and media personality Glenn Beck said the election of Hillary Clinton as president by refusing to support Donald Trump is "a moral, ethical choice" for Republicans.

The outspoken opponent of the GOP's presidential nominee wrote on Facebook over the weekend that every voter had to decide for themselves what constitutes "a bridge too far," after the release of footage last week in which Trump can be heard making lewd and sexually aggressive comments about women.
"It is not acceptable to ask a moral, dignified man to cast his vote to help elect an immoral man who is absent decency or dignity," Beck wrote on Facebook in reference to Trump. "If the consequence of standing against Trump and for principles is indeed the election of Hillary Clinton, so be it. At least it is a moral, ethical choice."
Beck, who founded media venture TheBlaze after rising to prominence as host of his eponymous radio and TV show, campaigned for Texas Sen. Ted Cruz during the Republican primaries, and has consistently criticized Trump throughout the primary campaign and even after Cruz endorsed him.
He joined a growing chorus of conservative leaders over the weekend who are appealing to Trump to withdraw his candidacy for president, adding that a vote for the businessman was "validating his immorality, lewdness, and depravity."
But Beck said his public stance against Trump did not equate to unfettered support for the Democratic presidential nominee.
"If she is elected, the world does not end," Beck said of Clinton. "Once elected, Hillary can be fought. Her tactics are blatant and juvenile, and battling her by means of political and procedural maneuvering or through the media, through public marches and online articles, all of that will be moral, worthy of man of principal."
He added: "Trump stepping down does not guarantee a Clinton win, but it does guarantee that the Republican party still stands for something, still allows its members to maintain (their) own self-respect and that it still has a future."
Beck's comments come as the GOP continues to grapple with Trump's latest controversy. House Speaker Paul Ryan announced Monday that he would no longer campaign for or defend his standard-bearer.
dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Oct 11, 2016

Martha Stewart went to jail for insider trading, yet Hillary got away with making $98,000 in cattle futures trading on tips from Tyson insiders. Who then got favorable treatment while Bill was governor of Arkansas.

Amazing.

Exactly, I don't know how the wench can even relate to us deplorable, 'poor' people...

The biggest difference between Trump and Hillary is she's been doing this an awfully long time, Trump enters the

race with a goal in mind, not an agenda. HUGE DIFFERENCE. 

What makes these people think things will be different with the forever fixture in Washington called Hillary Clinton?

dr65's avatardr65

She dropped Rodham in her name about 2008..when she was running...slick trick to strike a balance between who

she is and who she wanted people to see. Mainly, I believe keeping your maiden name is an independent thinkers 

move. When most women get married they drop the maiden name and take on the husbands name. She didn't like

the cookie idea and probably didn't like the lost identity idea..yeah, yeah some will say it's not that but it's the mental

manipulator we're talking about for this instance. Who wouldn't have known who she was?? Everybody knew who she

was...so flash forward to the election, she wanted the votes...so she drops her Rodham name and instantly appeals to

values that are traditional and conservative and to the traditional and conservative voter....no appearance of being a 

snotty, arrogant, socialite who was used to having her own way..a spoiled, opinionated, forceful, political big mouth

needed to look inviting to the public she was trying to gain votes from...she's been like this for a long time people,

you don't see that? An elite snot who wants everything she can get and thinks she is above being wrong...she's even

got the impression she's above the law. That really stinks, Hillary Rotten Clinton.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 11, 2016

They calling on him to drop out because his got the " make a deal mentality." When the republican leadership speaks to him and gives him advice, he lets it percolate inside his brain and then rejects it. His constantly in " business Mode" At this last debate the moderator told him how Pence felt about a certain issue- he outright belittles his running mate by saying " he does not agree with him". G Grief- what an jerk instead of saying l will have to discuss this with him- its the " My way or the highway." 

Mike Pense probably never was Trump's VP choice, but was given that job to shore up the party's religious base. The top and prominent Republicans weren't exactly fighting over who would speak a their convention and several like John Kasich just stayed home. 

Trump tweeted on how "disloyal" the Republican Party is, but had he stayed awake in History class, he might have clue why. It was the opposite in 1912 when the party stayed loyal to President Taft even though Teddy Roosevelt won all the primaries that year. T.R. went third party and came in second to the Dem, Woodrow Wilson. When Nixon was asked/told/threatened to resign, it was done for the good of the party. In this election cycle, the Republican Party isn't even on the same page will their base.

In this forum it's mostly "anti-Clinton" without any thought of how Trump could possibly win the election without 100% support of the party. It's one thing to no longer support Trump, but today John McCain said "I can't vote for Trump or Clinton" but would vote for his "old, good friend" Lindsey Graham. Hey John, Graham never even made it to to main debate.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 11, 2016

It's quite entertaining that so many who are on this board that are striving to win a multi-million dollar jackpot or even a billion dollar one are all so eager to elect a tax-and-spend democrat. Maybe the ultimate tax and spend democrat. 

Bang Head

Green laugh

How is buying a QP every now and then "striving to win"?

Maybe mikeintexas will be nice enough to explain to you what a "strawman argument" is.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Oct 11, 2016

Martha Stewart went to jail for insider trading, yet Hillary got away with making $98,000 in cattle futures trading on tips from Tyson insiders. Who then got favorable treatment while Bill was governor of Arkansas.

Amazing.

"Martha Stewart went to jail for insider trading"

Wrong, Steward went to jail for lying to investigators about why she sold ImClone stock.

Getting involved in the political process is great for anyone and some people are more passionate than most. There is a fine line between passionately supporting your candidate and looking stupid by making false statements. And you just crossed that line.

And of course someone here will agree this false statement eh dr65?

bigbear29

Donald Trump is blowing up the Republican Party:

Tuesday marks four weeks until the 2016 election. And the Republican presidential nominee is in the midst of blowing up his own party.

Let's stop for a second. This is the Republican presidential nominee. Attacking his own party. Promising to teach his party leaders a lesson. Pledging to take the “shackles off.”

I've spent the better part of the past two decades covering politics — day in and day out. And, I can say without hesitation I have NEVER seen anything close to this. And I expect I never will again.

Republicans knew that this version of Trump — angry, cornered, vengeful, selfish — was always a possibility when they made the decision to line up behind him rather than attempt complicated measures to unseat him at the party convention. Trump had shown his petulance and I'll-just-take-my-ball-and-go-home-ism during the primary season whenever things weren't going his way. He would turn on Republicans who weren't for him, attacking them as losers or out of touch with the party's voters — or both.

But, there was a belief — it appears to be more of a blind hope in retrospect — that Trump could be managed, that he could be brought to heel either by the likes of Speaker Paul D. Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell or by campaign managers Paul Manafort and/or Kellyanne Conway. That Trump could be made to understand that it was about more than him, that the entire party depended on him running a credible and serious campaign.

Back in June, as he sought to assure the party amid a self-inflicted controversy regarding Judge Gonzalo Curiel, Trump uttered these words: “I understand the responsibility of carrying the mantle. I will never let you down.” That speech, as I wrote at the time, was Trump's transparent attempt to say to Ryan, McConnell and lots of other skittish Republicans that he got it — he understood he needed to be good not just for himself but for the broader GOP.

It was clear even then, however, that Trump was saying what someone else had convinced him he needed to say — and that it wasn't what he really believed. And, in the end, the real Trump always broke through. He got rid of Manafort, a move seen as Trump re-establishing his renegade personality at the heart of the campaign. Conway appeared to hold sway with Trump for an extended period of time this summer — a period which coincided with his rise in the polls — but now it's quite clear that the campaign manager, chief strategist, message guru and pollster is Trump

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 11, 2016

It's quite entertaining that so many who are on this board that are striving to win a multi-million dollar jackpot or even a billion dollar one are all so eager to elect a tax-and-spend democrat. Maybe the ultimate tax and spend democrat. 

Bang Head

Green laugh

That's because the bulk of them never had a decent paying job or are living off the backs of tax payers. Heaven forbid any of these democrats actually won a decent jackpot as they would most likely have a stroke when confronted with the tax obligations.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

"FAT CHECK"..........name HILLARY (get ready to celebrate her birthday this OCT. 26TH)

Hillary R. Clinton spread the "lie" her mother named her after Sir Edmond Hillary of England who went to the top of the mountain.Yes, it was on May 29, 1953 when Edmond Hillary was the first to reach the summit of Mt. Everest. Up until this time, no one in the USA had never heard of or new Edmond Hillary even existed. Hillary enjoyed spreading the word among her Wellesley college twats that she was really "somebody"  !!!!!     She continued to tell and spread this lie among the many, many more to anyone who would give her the time and "money" to her Foundation!

WARNING: Don't "FAT CHECK" this woman or Al Gore! 

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 10, 2016

Do you think RL was sent risque photos of Drerick1 in bikinis too?

I wouldn't mind getting a photo of Drerick1 in a bikini but i would politely deny getting one from you. Perhaps you could send your friend Noisegate a picture of yourself as I have heard through the grapevine that people from the San Francisco Bay area enjoy that.

bigbear29

Early Voting Could Hand Election to Hillary Clinton Well Before Nov. 8:

With early voting already underway in many of the states that will decide the presidency, Hillary Clinton is beginning to reap the benefits of years of Democratic efforts to target and register voters, even as Republicans steadily close their disadvantage in party registration.

The first wave of data from states like Florida and North Carolina shows preliminary signs that Mrs. Clinton was building a slight edge even before the revelation that Donald J. Trump had bragged about sexual assaultroiled the race.

Democrats are requesting more absentee ballots in Florida than they were at this point in 2012, with increases of 50 percent in the heavily Hispanic areas around Miami and Orlando. In North Carolina, where Mitt Romney built enough of a lead in early voting four years ago to edge out a victory over President Obama, Democrats are requesting mail-in ballots in larger numbers than in 2012, while Republicans’ participation is declining.

These results will have more impact than ever this year, as record numbers of people are expected to cast their votes early. So many Americans will have voted by Election Day — more than 40 percent in swing states, according to the Clinton campaign — that the winner could be known before November.

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 11, 2016

Early Voting Could Hand Election to Hillary Clinton Well Before Nov. 8:

With early voting already underway in many of the states that will decide the presidency, Hillary Clinton is beginning to reap the benefits of years of Democratic efforts to target and register voters, even as Republicans steadily close their disadvantage in party registration.

The first wave of data from states like Florida and North Carolina shows preliminary signs that Mrs. Clinton was building a slight edge even before the revelation that Donald J. Trump had bragged about sexual assaultroiled the race.

Democrats are requesting more absentee ballots in Florida than they were at this point in 2012, with increases of 50 percent in the heavily Hispanic areas around Miami and Orlando. In North Carolina, where Mitt Romney built enough of a lead in early voting four years ago to edge out a victory over President Obama, Democrats are requesting mail-in ballots in larger numbers than in 2012, while Republicans’ participation is declining.

These results will have more impact than ever this year, as record numbers of people are expected to cast their votes early. So many Americans will have voted by Election Day — more than 40 percent in swing states, according to the Clinton campaign — that the winner could be known before November.

That's only going to happen if the fraud continues to persist. She is using every technique Obama had at his disposal to steal this election.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Unluckyone on Oct 11, 2016

That's only going to happen if the fraud continues to persist. She is using every technique Obama had at his disposal to steal this election.

Yep and that includes but is not limited to the dead, illegals and felons.

bigbear29

blah blah blah blah blah blah, trump is fighting with everyone and it is not going to turn out well for trump.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

I love it!  We need a President who's not a wimp but a fighter!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

I think its outstanding Trump is fighting the establishment Republicans.  They're part of the problem in DC.

bigbear29

So how is he going to get things done in Washington?

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 11, 2016

I love it!  We need a President who's not a wimp but a fighter!

I Agree!       Smash    Boxing

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

What?  Democrats got almost everything they wanted thanks to the establishment Republicans.  What didn't the Republicans concede to obama?

bigbear29

Donald Trump Says You Have to Be a Member of the Establishment to Get Things Done in Washington: ‘We’re Gonna Make Such Great Deals’.

bigbear29

That is totally FALSE!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

OK Comrade bear, whatever you say.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

poopbear is not doing his work.

dr65's avatardr65

Just saw a revolting headline! Apprentice women told to dress sexy! Oh the outrage!

 

Good grief, it only matters because Trump is associated with The Apprentice..CNN of course reporting.

TV bleeds images of women dressed and acting in a way that screams sex. No one says anything that

matters there, they keep on doing it. Find it linked to Trump and everyone is a saint all of a sudden.

That's what happens to Trump everyday...he does something and gets crucified for it. It's got absolutely

nothing to do with anything important...get your priorities straight here...what's it going to take to run this

country? Old Hat Hillary or Take 'em down Trump? Most need to be taken down and thrown out of office.

We really need a plan that is going to work for us not just one someone is going to make work for them.

bigbear29

Yes, what ever I say!

 

Republicans had it in for Obama before Day 1.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 11, 2016

Yes, what ever I say!

 

Republicans had it in for Obama before Day 1.

Glad you finally found a job bear.  Paid troll for the Hillary campaign.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Hillary is a foul mouth loser, hypocrite.   I am so sick of elite politicians who refuse to leave office, stay in until they turn into walking cadavers, like pry their titles from their cold dead hands.  Now she brought in Al Gore, are you kidding me?  He is one of the worst, she is getting desperate.   Gore blamed the Clintons for his Presidential loss, hahahahahah now he sucks up to Hitlery, wonder how much she paid him?  how disgusting can you get?

Give me Take 'em down Trump.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Al Gore?  Did I miss something?  What did that big fat liar say now?

bigbear29

I will be turning my ballot in next week.  All I have to do is learn how to spell trrummp, let's see, HILLARY, got it.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

He was speaking on Hitlerys behalf in Florida to try to get the millennial voters.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Did any of those kids ask him why Florida wasn't under 3 feet of water yet?  LOL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 11, 2016

I will be turning my ballot in next week.  All I have to do is learn how to spell trrummp, let's see, HILLARY, got it.

How many times are you going to vote?

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 11, 2016

Did any of those kids ask him why Florida wasn't under 3 feet of water yet?  LOL

LOL. 

To tell the truth I turn it off when I see Hitlery, I cant stand to look at that condescending, smug face of her.  Gore, he is the bottom of the barrel.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

FAT "CHECKED"..Hillary Clinton born:  Oct. 26. 1947, Hill lied all D time....                                  Sir Edmond Hillary climb: 5/29/1953,now her mama know!

WARNING: don't check them high paying solar or shovel                      ready jobs Obamo promised us 8 years ago???

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 11, 2016

LOL. 

To tell the truth I turn it off when I see Hitlery, I cant stand to look at that condescending, smug face of her.  Gore, he is the bottom of the barrel.

Yea I can relate to that.  I hope Trump lets it really rip in the last debate.  I want to see Trump wipe that smile off her face.  She's a corrupt fraud and responsible for many innocent people getting killed.  She belongs in hell.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 11, 2016

Yea I can relate to that.  I hope Trump lets it really rip in the last debate.  I want to see Trump wipe that smile off her face.  She's a corrupt fraud and responsible for many innocent people getting killed.  She belongs in hell.

Absolutely agree 100%.  Trump is lighting up this election and I hope to God that republicans, democrats, libertarians, conservatives come out BIG time for him when it is time to vote. I have heard there are people who support Trump but just wont admit they are going to vote for him.  The standards of politics are in the toilet.  We need TERM LIMITS desperately. 

Fraud, corruption, greed, all have her face attached to the description.

There is a SPECIAL place in hell for her and that husband of hers.

bigbear29

The 2016 electoral map is rapidly slipping away from Donald Trump:

 

According to the Fix's electoral vote tracker — an amazing tool that marries Real Clear Politics polling averages in swing states with the electoral map — if the election were held today, Hillary Clinton would win 341 electoral votes to Donald Trump's 197.

Those totals reflect the fact that Trump's always-narrow path to 270 electoral votes has become a footpath — at best — over the past two weeks or so, dating back to the first presidential debate Sept. 26. Trump has been battered over that time by bad reviews of his debates showings as well as the revelations of lewd sexual talk in a 2005 hot-mic video. His poll numbers have taken a commensurate hit — both nationally and in swing states. That hit is reflected in our weekly update of the Fix electoral map.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 11, 2016

Hillary is a foul mouth loser, hypocrite.   I am so sick of elite politicians who refuse to leave office, stay in until they turn into walking cadavers, like pry their titles from their cold dead hands.  Now she brought in Al Gore, are you kidding me?  He is one of the worst, she is getting desperate.   Gore blamed the Clintons for his Presidential loss, hahahahahah now he sucks up to Hitlery, wonder how much she paid him?  how disgusting can you get?

Give me Take 'em down Trump.

I Agree!.. We need to set term limits on Senators as well.This perpetual running for office is crazy.Which reminds me,  how old was Strom Thurmond before he decided to pack it in?  Feinstein is another that should pack it in along with McCain whose got to be creeping in on 90.Now if you going to go after Hill- let's just say give her 4 years to be fair,  if she disappoints- roll her out to pasture. Sounds fair?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 11, 2016

Yea I can relate to that.  I hope Trump lets it really rip in the last debate.  I want to see Trump wipe that smile off her face.  She's a corrupt fraud and responsible for many innocent people getting killed.  She belongs in hell.

Word to the wise: Jesus Christ went to Hell.Reads the book of Acts genius. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 11, 2016

I Agree!.. We need to set term limits on Senators as well.This perpetual running for office is crazy.Which reminds me,  how old was Strom Thurmond before he decided to pack it in?  Feinstein is another that should pack it in along with McCain whose got to be creeping in on 90.Now if you going to go after Hill- let's just say give her 4 years to be fair,  if she disappoints- roll her out to pasture. Sounds fair?

I agree 100%!  We need term limits, the problem is... They have to approve it.  Never happen.  Look at Mitch McConnell and Harry Reid.  Those corrupt politicians should have been gone long ago. 

Question... How can someone go into Congress and after 20 or so years come out a multi-millionaire?  Congressmen make 174K a year.  I think we all know how.  If we did what they do, we'd be in prison.  Example Hillary.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 11, 2016

Word to the wise: Jesus Christ went to Hell.Reads the book of Acts genius. 

Hey Knowitall nowhere was it said He didnt.  Get off your holier-than-thou highhorse.

bigbear29

Washington will not change until the long term people are gone.  So, trump is not going to change Washington.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 11, 2016

Washington will not change until the long term people are gone.  So, trump is not going to change Washington.

Comrade... Do you realize what you posted?  Read it again.  You contradicted yourself bigtime. LOL

dr65's avatardr65

GreenBay that is the only thing I was disappointed at in the second debate...the smile and him not getting a crack in before

it was over. He can tell her in the 3rd debate. That is a nervous smile alright...looks good and probably feels good on her

face but it was a little crooked by the end of the night..the fly knew. There's a video on youtube about flies and Obama. 

Different times they landed on him..he smacked one on his hand and let the guts there. Confused

dr65's avatardr65

wow..Obama wants to send humans to Mars by 2030...why doesn't he go and take Hillary with him?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 11, 2016

wow..Obama wants to send humans to Mars by 2030...why doesn't he go and take Hillary with him?

I guess that's where all the shovel ready jobs are now.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 11, 2016

Hey Knowitall nowhere was it said He didnt.  Get off your holier-than-thou highhorse.

Hey listen pal, first off, my response was not addressed to you,  why are you getting all riled up?  Second: There are children present, including yourself. Using language like " needs to go or stay in hell" can scare the kid's.Stop being so hostile. .don't make me not like you. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 11, 2016

Hey listen pal, first off, my response was not addressed to you,  why are you getting all riled up?  Second: There are children present, including yourself. Using language like " needs to go or stay in hell" can scare the kid's.Stop being so hostile. .don't make me not like you. 

Language like needs to go or stay in hell can scare kids?  Really noise?  Please keep those kids in California OK?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 11, 2016

I agree 100%!  We need term limits, the problem is... They have to approve it.  Never happen.  Look at Mitch McConnell and Harry Reid.  Those corrupt politicians should have been gone long ago. 

Question... How can someone go into Congress and after 20 or so years come out a multi-millionaire?  Congressmen make 174K a year.  I think we all know how.  If we did what they do, we'd be in prison.  Example Hillary.

l can answer the last part of your question LB- it's called living in the land of opportunity. I don't know what line of work you in, but in life  you always sell your services to the highest bidder. Past Presidents have done that, unfortunately W has not taken advice of that perk, or he has not been invited out. 

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 11, 2016

Language like needs to go or stay in hell can scare kids?  Really noise?  Please keep those kids in California OK?

No sense of humor huh?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Guess I missed the LOL in your post.  LOL

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 11, 2016

blah blah blah blah blah blah, trump is fighting with everyone and it is not going to turn out well for trump.

bigbear29,

Many years ago MAD Magazine did a satire piece on a parade in NYC that Nikita Krushchev was in. As the parade went down the street a man in the crowd saw Krushchev and yelled "Butcher of Hyngary! Butcher of Hungary!"

A news commentator held up his microphone and said to the TV audience, " A man in the crowd in informing us that Mr. Krushchev once worked as a butcher in Hungary. 

Your pro Hillary posts are very reminiscent of that.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 8, 2016

Geez. Really Artist???

For what it's worth, she sent me pics of herself and her son fully clothed, and a pic of her in a bikini and her son in a bathing suit when they were out in a boat on the lake. I am a man. I did not think anything of it. If she had been swimming with all of her clothes on, now I would have thought that strange. Really Artist, you are making something out of nothing here. Do you have self image issues?

Oh, and I did compliment her......about her son.

Lol lol Sure.  Are you punking me here? I will round up the other ladies and make certain we show a suitable level of " self esteem" by sending out "personal" photos out of the blue. Especially the happily married ones!  Sounds like we have a lot of lp emailing to do ladies!!! We need to catch up in sheer volume alone.

I am debating between one of my flower garden and another one. If you look with a magnifying glass you can catch a glimpse of a blurred flower in the lower right background. Please ignore the foreground image showing me in booty shorts while I was washing my car.

My other option is a pic of my newly painted bathroom door. I just love the color. Please disregard the fact that I am just stepping out of the shower. Oh my. Embarassed

Where is common sense Ridge when we need him?

dr65's avatardr65

Where's Gore? Trying to raise Hillary from the dead? He IS the dead...where'd you see him? I thought he was

lost somewhere..oh he needs to hook up with the congressman from...ah, GA?.. I forget where it was but he was

talking about Guam tilting because too many people were on the island. Crazy LOL!!! I see now, Gore is calling himself 

Exhibit A...he's taking the same drugs that congressman did...and Hillary can't wait to appoint him? To what? Fly crew?

What does that tell you? Hillary is desperate now.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 11, 2016

Hey listen pal, first off, my response was not addressed to you,  why are you getting all riled up?  Second: There are children present, including yourself. Using language like " needs to go or stay in hell" can scare the kid's.Stop being so hostile. .don't make me not like you. 

First off, I aint your pal.  But I see it is ok for you to call others names eh?  Your comment was uncalled and here you are again insulting.

Dont like me, that is your right.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 11, 2016

How many times are you going to vote?

I'm wondering how many dead people are going to vote.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 11, 2016

Where's Gore? Trying to raise Hillary from the dead? He IS the dead...where'd you see him? I thought he was

lost somewhere..oh he needs to hook up with the congressman from...ah, GA?.. I forget where it was but he was

talking about Guam tilting because too many people were on the island. Crazy LOL!!! I see now, Gore is calling himself 

Exhibit A...he's taking the same drugs that congressman did...and Hillary can't wait to appoint him? To what? Fly crew?

What does that tell you? Hillary is desperate now.

Gore was campaigning with Hillary in Florida today.  Isnt it rather strange he blamed the Clintons for his losing the election all those years ago and have had no contact so I found it very strange for him to show up. I have to wonder how much he was paid, with Gore, it is all about the money, hmmmm kinda like those lovely Clintons.

That congressman from GA, OMG ....Hank Johnson, yes, he was afraid the island would tip over due to overpopulation, how embarrassing and he is a representative. The intellect and wisdom knows no boundaries.  How in the world did he get elected?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Yea I remember Hank Johnson's comment.  As I recall he was talking about Guam.  And those are the people representing us in government?  Another example is Congresswoman Shelia Jackson Lee, she thought the US landed on Mars and that hurricane names were racist.  LOL

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 11, 2016

Gore was campaigning with Hillary in Florida today.  Isnt it rather strange he blamed the Clintons for his losing the election all those years ago and have had no contact so I found it very strange for him to show up. I have to wonder how much he was paid, with Gore, it is all about the money, hmmmm kinda like those lovely Clintons.

That congressman from GA, OMG ....Hank Johnson, yes, he was afraid the island would tip over due to overpopulation, how embarrassing and he is a representative. The intellect and wisdom knows no boundaries.  How in the world did he get elected?

I know, how did he get elected, good thing he wasn't worried about anyone digging a hole, the might have sprung a leak on the island. He actually held a hearing should of seen the look on the Generals face, Tax payer dollars hard at work.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 11, 2016

Yea I remember Hank Johnson's comment.  As I recall he was talking about Guam.  And those are the people representing us in government?  Another example is Congresswoman Shelia Jackson Lee, she thought the US landed on Mars and that hurricane names were racist.  LOL

They are all the living dead. Obama is doing things to them and Hillary will continue. They must be - if Gore is Exhibit A -

Invasion of the Body Snatcher pod people.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 11, 2016

I know, how did he get elected, good thing he wasn't worried about anyone digging a hole, the might have sprung a leak on the island. He actually held a hearing should of seen the look on the Generals face, Tax payer dollars hard at work.

The General fielded that question like a true champion...I don't know if I could have done it without crawling under

the table. Confused

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 11, 2016

First off, I aint your pal.  But I see it is ok for you to call others names eh?  Your comment was uncalled and here you are again insulting.

Dont like me, that is your right.

This needs to be said. When we Californians especially those in the Bay area say " Pal" it is not out of disrespect . Stop walking around with a chip on your shoulder for F sake, in other words Grow the hell up.This is a forum where there is an exchange of opinions. You may not agree with what others are saying but it does not mean you have to be hostile in your attitude.l am in no mood for dick measuring with you so if l don't hear from you again- it's still okay. Live & let live.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 11, 2016

This needs to be said. When we Californians especially those in the Bay area say " Pal" it is not out of disrespect . Stop walking around with a chip on your shoulder for F sake, in other words Grow the hell up.This is a forum where there is an exchange of opinions. You may not agree with what others are saying but it does not mean you have to be hostile in your attitude.l am in no mood for dick measuring with you so if l don't hear from you again- it's still okay. Live & let live.

Dont really care about your measuring and certainly does not apply.

FWIW i am a native Californian so I dont need your schooling. 

No response wanted or needed.  Adios.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

This article hit my reader earlier and sums up my feelings to a "T". I haven't stated it publicly before now, but I don't think Trump can win this election.  My predictions are usually wrong, and I hope they are in this case as well, but while I think the election will be much closer than the polls show, Clinton will run away with the Electoral College vote.  So, to all of you who will vote for Hillary despite her "sins" being many more times than those of Trump...well, I hope you will enjoy your Pyrrhic victory.

If you have any questions in regards to the article, contact the author, not me.

What's really important in this election

Republished with permission- All rights remain with the author

Almost everyone agrees that this is the most unusual election in his or her lifetime. We have two major party candidates with the highest disapproval ratings that anyone can remember. And each candidate’s supporters ignore the negatives and continue to support the candidate.

Democrat Hillary Clinton comes from decades in the political sphere as the wife of a governor, the wife of a president, a U.S. Senator and Secretary of State. Republican Donald Trump comes from decades in the private sector as a businessman and entertainment show producer, having first entered political life for the 2015 Republican primary.

Both have a long list of negatives their political enemies hope will disqualify them in the eyes of voters. However, there are important differences between them.

It wasn’t Donald Trump who for personal convenience as Secretary of State flaunted the rules and established procedures, taking the unprecedented step of evading the official secure government email system in favor of a private email server for government business, including classified information, then had the server scrubbed, destroying thousands of messages that were not only government property, but evidence, and then couldn’t provide a credible excuse for any of that.

It wasn’t Donald Trump whose possible-criminal situation caused untold irregularities in the operation of the State Department, the FBI and the Justice Department, including a “chance” meeting on an airport tarmac between the Secretary of State’s husband and the Attorney General of the United States, putting dozens of public servants in the position to destroy their credibility and trustworthiness to save Secretary of State’s backside.

It wasn’t Donald Trump whose vast experience in government in the U.S. Senate and the State Department resulted in neglecting dozens of requests for increased security prior to the terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya resulting in the death of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other brave Americans, and then tried blame a clear terrorist attack on an obscure Internet video, resulting in jailing the video’s producer.

And it wasn’t Donald Trump whose frequent profanity-laced tirades insulted and denigrated Secret Service agents and White House staffers.

But that was a long time ago, and since all of that was a long time ago, it probably isn’t relevant that it also wasn’t Donald Trump who worked for the Congressional committee investigating the Watergate cover-up many years ago, and was fired for lying.

But it was Donald Trump who took some money from his father, invested it in business and created hotels, casinos, golf courses and television shows. Some of his creations didn’t work out, as is not uncommon in the world of business. Luminaries such as Henry Ford, Walt Disney, F.W. Woolworth, Albert Einstein, and Bill Gates also sometimes failed. The best major league hitters fail to get a hit six or seven out of ten times.

It was Donald Trump who claimed business losses of nearly a billion dollars on tax returns many years ago, cancelling an equal amount of income over several years, using provisions in the tax code to reduce taxable income, just as most every American that pays taxes does, through deductions for such things as dependents, mortgage interest and charitable giving.

For taking legal tax deductions Trump has attracted mountains of criticism from his betters, who somehow twist this into meaning he doesn’t care about the country, or the military and dozens of other things. But the hundreds or thousands of people that work in his businesses do pay taxes, and that is significant.

And, yes, it was Donald Trump who managed to anger his primary opponents and many Americans with his petulant personal attacks of those who opposed and challenged him. His far-from-perfect manner leaves much to be desired, and his locker room vulgarity, spoken in private 11 years ago, really got people fired up. But if some rapper had used those same words as lyrics, it’d be #1 on Billboard.

Apparently, it’s a more serious offense to say things that offend someone than to put national interests at risk, to lose $6 billion of State Department funds and generally fail to competently run the agency you’ve been entrusted to run, and make millions giving $250,000 secret-content speeches to Wall Street banks that you publicly criticize. By virtue of merely having been elected a U.S. Senator and appointed as a cabinet secretary, you are thus qualified to be president, even if the best you did in those positions was inconsequential or harmful.

Strangely, people are more offended by Trump’s words than Hillary Clinton’s vicious attacks on her hubby’s numerous sexual victims and conquests, her position on coal mining and the Supreme Court, and her comments supporting open borders, spoken in a private $250,000 speech.

What Trump said that hurt someone’s feelings or shocked their sensibilities is worse to many than that Clinton put personal convenience ahead of national security and failed to protect State Department personnel who were in harms way.

Voters must put their hurt feelings aside, adjust their perspective and focus on the serious issues confronting the next president. They must understand that Clinton’s hubris already put national security at risk, and she will continue Obama’s dangerous, destructive, and unconstitutional policies.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Voting shannigans in Arlington County, close in to dc. We got our voter cards today and 2000 or more of us were unilaterally moved to vote in the northern part of the county vs. Voting at a school in the neighborhood...a block from my home. This change would have required us to miss quite a bit of work and resulting in many of us not voting. Many of us are raising hell. It made no sense and was not even in a neighboring zip code. This was not an accident.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 11, 2016

GreenBay that is the only thing I was disappointed at in the second debate...the smile and him not getting a crack in before

it was over. He can tell her in the 3rd debate. That is a nervous smile alright...looks good and probably feels good on her

face but it was a little crooked by the end of the night..the fly knew. There's a video on youtube about flies and Obama. 

Different times they landed on him..he smacked one on his hand and let the guts there. Confused

      OH!!! NO!!!... that's gross....Puke

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 11, 2016

      OH!!! NO!!!... that's gross....Puke

LOL!! I guess it just dried up and flaked off or was....absorbed Confused

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 11, 2016

      OH!!! NO!!!... that's gross....Puke

Lord of the flies.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 11, 2016

Voting shannigans in Arlington County, close in to dc. We got our voter cards today and 2000 or more of us were unilaterally moved to vote in the northern part of the county vs. Voting at a school in the neighborhood...a block from my home. This change would have required us to miss quite a bit of work and resulting in many of us not voting. Many of us are raising hell. It made no sense and was not even in a neighboring zip code. This was not an accident.

Oh, no. This probably was long in the making. I believe you that it wasn't an accident. They are going to fix this thing. 

And I am NOT a conspiracy theory type. Boxes of 10's of thousands of ballots already filled in with Hillary's name found

in a warehouse just waiting to be slipped in with the real votes....this was a couple weeks ago. Imagine if it's just one

tiny town in Ohio...what about the millions of other warehouses across the country. Tell me, why were they there?

But what you describe sounds like the beginnings of the big fix.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 11, 2016

Oh, no. This probably was long in the making. I believe you that it wasn't an accident. They are going to fix this thing. 

And I am NOT a conspiracy theory type. Boxes of 10's of thousands of ballots already filled in with Hillary's name found

in a warehouse just waiting to be slipped in with the real votes....this was a couple weeks ago. Imagine if it's just one

tiny town in Ohio...what about the millions of other warehouses across the country. Tell me, why were they there?

But what you describe sounds like the beginnings of the big fix.

Been comparing notes with my neighbors. People on the same block were sent to various inconvenient locations and the written instructions had yet a different version. I have lived here many years and never seen anything like this. There has never been any error before. The county was forced to announce it was a mixup and we would be getting new cards.

dr65's avatardr65

Fine by me Mike, I agree. That's exactly it. The scale is very unbalanced.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 11, 2016

Lord of the flies.

                  Green laugh

sully16's avatarsully16

More on Wikileaks, Hillary and her top Aides, seem to have a problem with Catholics, they can't believe we are so stupid to have our children Baptized.

Soooooo seems they have a problem with Jesus.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 11, 2016

Been comparing notes with my neighbors. People on the same block were sent to various inconvenient locations and the written instructions had yet a different version. I have lived here many years and never seen anything like this. There has never been any error before. The county was forced to announce it was a mixup and we would be getting new cards.

Oh no, I hope anyone reading about your experience who runs into same situation where something is definitely wrong

will raise he*ll and not let them jerk this election process around. I just want to cast my vote and have it recorded as

I chose. I just have a bad feeling this will turn into a circus..and I'm willing to have a circus if it will fair and honest..let

them take time to make sure everything is proper..I just don't want the clowns there.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 11, 2016

Voting shannigans in Arlington County, close in to dc. We got our voter cards today and 2000 or more of us were unilaterally moved to vote in the northern part of the county vs. Voting at a school in the neighborhood...a block from my home. This change would have required us to miss quite a bit of work and resulting in many of us not voting. Many of us are raising hell. It made no sense and was not even in a neighboring zip code. This was not an accident.

Artist:  if they lie, they can cheat and STEAL too>>>>>>>>Naughty Lurking

Miami..Palm Beach & most of SO Florida completely set-up for the Democrats to WIN & that's no JOKE Let It All Out..Naples may be OK...No Florida mostly        gone rats by now..W panhandle about the only thing pubs can count on....with 95 million unemployed in the USA and another 10 million foreign..        new "citizens" being imported & dropped off in states on a secret basic clan destination during 2016-18-19 going to be biggest. "SAUSAGE PARTY"        this country will ever experience XXX....only 28 days to the election & 29 electoral votes from FLORIDA GO TO the>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>?????

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 11, 2016

More on Wikileaks, Hillary and her top Aides, seem to have a problem with Catholics, they can't believe we are so stupid to have our children Baptized.

Soooooo seems they have a problem with Jesus.

sully, that woman is the devil HIMSELF...she is anti family, anti Christian, anti religion...WHEN IT HAS TO DO WITH OUR

CHOICES. WE NEED TRUMP to be president so that SATAN and that's what I'm going to call her now....so Satan cannot 

choose our next Supreme Court justices and make them all liberal minions working for the destruction of this country.

No religion, No freedom of speech, No guns, No family, No church, No CONSTITUTION. She is pure evil - I knew she was

anti-Christian and that Kaine puppet, he's a pawn in the grand scheme of things...he is supposed to be Catholic, he is NOT.

Churches are restricted, Schools are restricted, WE are restricted and it will get worse. Get used to big brother because they

will be watching EVERYTHING you do if you elect Hillary.

I'm so mad now, I have to stop and go look at this....Yes, they have a problem with Jesus and God, you can't even say the

Pledge or sing the anthem without THINKING you are insulting someone OR them thinking they have a right to tell you to

stop...used to be that IF SOMEONE did not agree, they left...now they are allowed to stay and in the <snip>n minority.

I have rights too and wish to express them and exercise them, I am the MAJORITY and am being punished for it.

 

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dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Oct 11, 2016

Artist:  if they lie, they can cheat and STEAL too>>>>>>>>Naughty Lurking

Miami..Palm Beach & most of SO Florida completely set-up for the Democrats to WIN & that's no JOKE Let It All Out..Naples may be OK...No Florida mostly        gone rats by now..W panhandle about the only thing pubs can count on....with 95 million unemployed in the USA and another 10 million foreign..        new "citizens" being imported & dropped off in states on a secret basic clan destination during 2016-18-19 going to be biggest. "SAUSAGE PARTY"        this country will ever experience XXX....only 28 days to the election & 29 electoral votes from FLORIDA GO TO the>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>?????

Firing Squad. Mad

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 11, 2016

sully, that woman is the devil HIMSELF...she is anti family, anti Christian, anti religion...WHEN IT HAS TO DO WITH OUR

CHOICES. WE NEED TRUMP to be president so that SATAN and that's what I'm going to call her now....so Satan cannot 

choose our next Supreme Court justices and make them all liberal minions working for the destruction of this country.

No religion, No freedom of speech, No guns, No family, No church, No CONSTITUTION. She is pure evil - I knew she was

anti-Christian and that Kaine puppet, he's a pawn in the grand scheme of things...he is supposed to be Catholic, he is NOT.

Churches are restricted, Schools are restricted, WE are restricted and it will get worse. Get used to big brother because they

will be watching EVERYTHING you do if you elect Hillary.

I'm so mad now, I have to stop and go look at this....Yes, they have a problem with Jesus and God, you can't even say the

Pledge or sing the anthem without THINKING you are insulting someone OR them thinking they have a right to tell you to

stop...used to be that IF SOMEONE did not agree, they left...now they are allowed to stay and in the <snip>n minority.

I have rights too and wish to express them and exercise them, I am the MAJORITY and am being punished for it.

 

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According to them we cling to guns and our stupid religion. I had to stop watching, anger boiling over.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 11, 2016

More on Wikileaks, Hillary and her top Aides, seem to have a problem with Catholics, they can't believe we are so stupid to have our children Baptized.

Soooooo seems they have a problem with Jesus.

Obama hates Catholics. We see Obama and Hillary for what they actually are.

You ever see the show 2 broke girls? They did an open Catholic slam and I almost fell off my chair. One said something was more difficult than being Catholic and coming "out" in Indiana. But this bigotry is ok.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Glad to hear I am not the only one incensed over this whole election, one-sided bs.  Seems there is and will be more Wikileaking, what, if anything, is going to be done?

Two of her people have stated in emails she hates everyday Americans.  How is that going to go over and what will the democrat supporters feel hearing that?  Still vote for her I am sure.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 11, 2016

This article hit my reader earlier and sums up my feelings to a "T". I haven't stated it publicly before now, but I don't think Trump can win this election.  My predictions are usually wrong, and I hope they are in this case as well, but while I think the election will be much closer than the polls show, Clinton will run away with the Electoral College vote.  So, to all of you who will vote for Hillary despite her "sins" being many more times than those of Trump...well, I hope you will enjoy your Pyrrhic victory.

If you have any questions in regards to the article, contact the author, not me.

What's really important in this election

Republished with permission- All rights remain with the author

Almost everyone agrees that this is the most unusual election in his or her lifetime. We have two major party candidates with the highest disapproval ratings that anyone can remember. And each candidate’s supporters ignore the negatives and continue to support the candidate.

Democrat Hillary Clinton comes from decades in the political sphere as the wife of a governor, the wife of a president, a U.S. Senator and Secretary of State. Republican Donald Trump comes from decades in the private sector as a businessman and entertainment show producer, having first entered political life for the 2015 Republican primary.

Both have a long list of negatives their political enemies hope will disqualify them in the eyes of voters. However, there are important differences between them.

It wasn’t Donald Trump who for personal convenience as Secretary of State flaunted the rules and established procedures, taking the unprecedented step of evading the official secure government email system in favor of a private email server for government business, including classified information, then had the server scrubbed, destroying thousands of messages that were not only government property, but evidence, and then couldn’t provide a credible excuse for any of that.

It wasn’t Donald Trump whose possible-criminal situation caused untold irregularities in the operation of the State Department, the FBI and the Justice Department, including a “chance” meeting on an airport tarmac between the Secretary of State’s husband and the Attorney General of the United States, putting dozens of public servants in the position to destroy their credibility and trustworthiness to save Secretary of State’s backside.

It wasn’t Donald Trump whose vast experience in government in the U.S. Senate and the State Department resulted in neglecting dozens of requests for increased security prior to the terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya resulting in the death of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other brave Americans, and then tried blame a clear terrorist attack on an obscure Internet video, resulting in jailing the video’s producer.

And it wasn’t Donald Trump whose frequent profanity-laced tirades insulted and denigrated Secret Service agents and White House staffers.

But that was a long time ago, and since all of that was a long time ago, it probably isn’t relevant that it also wasn’t Donald Trump who worked for the Congressional committee investigating the Watergate cover-up many years ago, and was fired for lying.

But it was Donald Trump who took some money from his father, invested it in business and created hotels, casinos, golf courses and television shows. Some of his creations didn’t work out, as is not uncommon in the world of business. Luminaries such as Henry Ford, Walt Disney, F.W. Woolworth, Albert Einstein, and Bill Gates also sometimes failed. The best major league hitters fail to get a hit six or seven out of ten times.

It was Donald Trump who claimed business losses of nearly a billion dollars on tax returns many years ago, cancelling an equal amount of income over several years, using provisions in the tax code to reduce taxable income, just as most every American that pays taxes does, through deductions for such things as dependents, mortgage interest and charitable giving.

For taking legal tax deductions Trump has attracted mountains of criticism from his betters, who somehow twist this into meaning he doesn’t care about the country, or the military and dozens of other things. But the hundreds or thousands of people that work in his businesses do pay taxes, and that is significant.

And, yes, it was Donald Trump who managed to anger his primary opponents and many Americans with his petulant personal attacks of those who opposed and challenged him. His far-from-perfect manner leaves much to be desired, and his locker room vulgarity, spoken in private 11 years ago, really got people fired up. But if some rapper had used those same words as lyrics, it’d be #1 on Billboard.

Apparently, it’s a more serious offense to say things that offend someone than to put national interests at risk, to lose $6 billion of State Department funds and generally fail to competently run the agency you’ve been entrusted to run, and make millions giving $250,000 secret-content speeches to Wall Street banks that you publicly criticize. By virtue of merely having been elected a U.S. Senator and appointed as a cabinet secretary, you are thus qualified to be president, even if the best you did in those positions was inconsequential or harmful.

Strangely, people are more offended by Trump’s words than Hillary Clinton’s vicious attacks on her hubby’s numerous sexual victims and conquests, her position on coal mining and the Supreme Court, and her comments supporting open borders, spoken in a private $250,000 speech.

What Trump said that hurt someone’s feelings or shocked their sensibilities is worse to many than that Clinton put personal convenience ahead of national security and failed to protect State Department personnel who were in harms way.

Voters must put their hurt feelings aside, adjust their perspective and focus on the serious issues confronting the next president. They must understand that Clinton’s hubris already put national security at risk, and she will continue Obama’s dangerous, destructive, and unconstitutional policies.

Very sensible article.

MaximumMillions

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 11, 2016

Obama hates Catholics. We see Obama and Hillary for what they actually are.

You ever see the show 2 broke girls? They did an open Catholic slam and I almost fell off my chair. One said something was more difficult than being Catholic and coming "out" in Indiana. But this bigotry is ok.

They slam everything and everyone, no surprise there.

__________________________________________

 

This thread reads like a novel.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Unluckyone on Oct 11, 2016

I wouldn't mind getting a photo of Drerick1 in a bikini but i would politely deny getting one from you. Perhaps you could send your friend Noisegate a picture of yourself as I have heard through the grapevine that people from the San Francisco Bay area enjoy that.

"I wouldn't mind getting a photo of Drerick1 in a bikini "

Why are telling me?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 11, 2016

This needs to be said. When we Californians especially those in the Bay area say " Pal" it is not out of disrespect . Stop walking around with a chip on your shoulder for F sake, in other words Grow the hell up.This is a forum where there is an exchange of opinions. You may not agree with what others are saying but it does not mean you have to be hostile in your attitude.l am in no mood for dick measuring with you so if l don't hear from you again- it's still okay. Live & let live.

The list of Republican that don't support Trump is still growing yet it looks several of our LP members didn't the memo and those that did are getting very frustrated. So I should have warned you, in this thread it's if their attack on the messages don't work, they attack the messenger.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 11, 2016

Been comparing notes with my neighbors. People on the same block were sent to various inconvenient locations and the written instructions had yet a different version. I have lived here many years and never seen anything like this. There has never been any error before. The county was forced to announce it was a mixup and we would be getting new cards.

That's odd because their website doesn't have any announcements about a mix up or any mention of being "forced" to issue new cards. Should I email the board of elections and ask them why?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Unluckyone on Oct 11, 2016

I wouldn't mind getting a photo of Drerick1 in a bikini but i would politely deny getting one from you. Perhaps you could send your friend Noisegate a picture of yourself as I have heard through the grapevine that people from the San Francisco Bay area enjoy that.

Hey New Member- yeah you A Hole. What part of the United States are you from? Your reference to the San Francisco Bay area means what exactly? Oh, you thinking about gays? There's none in your town huh, everyone goes to church on Sunday huh?That experience of you stumbling into a Gay bar " by mistake-you say" ....still has you waking up in the middle of the night? Here is some advice- don't speak about something you unfamiliar with, and please refrain from pulling me into your conversation to plant your flag to make friends. Its not nice.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 12, 2016

That's odd because their website doesn't have any announcements about a mix up or any mention of being "forced" to issue new cards. Should I email the board of elections and ask them why?

Someone in my neighborhood , who is on the board called, moron. It was announced in a neighborhood closed fb group, moron. You need to learn how to do real research. You really did not think they were going to post about their big error on their own wepage? Lol lol. Too funny. That is not how government works but I know you are a backwoods hick. PS get a job!

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 12, 2016

"I wouldn't mind getting a photo of Drerick1 in a bikini "

Why are telling me?

The big troll has a troll. Love it.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 12, 2016

That's odd because their website doesn't have any announcements about a mix up or any mention of being "forced" to issue new cards. Should I email the board of elections and ask them why?

  • Go ahead and email them. Feel free to post the response. You are such a loser. All talk. Of course when they ask you for a name and address, you will disappear asap. Lol. Such entertainment on my way to work.
Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Oct 11, 2016

Artist:  if they lie, they can cheat and STEAL too>>>>>>>>Naughty Lurking

Miami..Palm Beach & most of SO Florida completely set-up for the Democrats to WIN & that's no JOKE Let It All Out..Naples may be OK...No Florida mostly        gone rats by now..W panhandle about the only thing pubs can count on....with 95 million unemployed in the USA and another 10 million foreign..        new "citizens" being imported & dropped off in states on a secret basic clan destination during 2016-18-19 going to be biggest. "SAUSAGE PARTY"        this country will ever experience XXX....only 28 days to the election & 29 electoral votes from FLORIDA GO TO the>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>?????

I agree!  And just heard the voter card error happened to friends all over the county.

bigbear29

In 4 way election Clinton up +11

 

In 2 way election Clinton up +14

 

TRUMP IS LOSING BIG TIME!  And trump is beating up on his GOP party.  TRUMP is STUPID!

 

No one has ever wow the white house with - double digit numbers.

bigbear29

No!  You should be concerned about trump losing by double digit numbers.

 

Ohio voting starts in one hour!  Keep fighting your own party trump!  You really need Ohio to win the white house.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Somehow a nuke going off in Chicago worries me more.  What did that idiot obama do to piss them off?  I knew that fool would get us into a war with someone.  With obama its not peace through strength, its war through weakness.  Wake up comrade bear.

bigbear29

YES!  You are a true trump supporter!  A nuke going off in Chicago, true trump STUPIDITY!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

And why is that bear?  Stop posting liberal BS and start answering questions.  You think Chicago isn't a target in the event of a war?  I think a President who is willing to get along with Russia is a good thing, that also means they would get along with us.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 12, 2016

And why is that bear?  Stop posting liberal BS and start answering questions.  You think Chicago isn't a target in the event of a war?  I think a President who is willing to get along with Russia is a good thing, that also means they would get along with us.

He didn't even click the link. Poobear is in the dark.

Washington may be the first city hit, but not the only.

bigbear29

This is just STUPIDITY!  Go get a education, there will never be a launch on the USA.  It's just a show of power.

bigbear29

Another trump IDIOT!

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 12, 2016

Another trump IDIOT!

I wouldn't say never.

Never is a long time.

Russia is very unhappy with us right now.

Who has more to lose? US or Russia?

bigbear29

Here's some facts for you! 

Major GOP Donors Are Asking Trump for Their Money Back:

Two big-money donors who have given or raised tens of thousands of dollars for Donald Trump are livid at the Republican presidential nominee and are asking for their money back, according to a bundler who raised money for Trump.

"I cannot express my disappointment enough regarding the recent events surrounding Mr. Trump," one donor wrote to a Trump fundraiser in an email with the subject line "Trump support withdrawal."

"I regret coming to the Trump support event, and in particular allowing my son to be a part of it," the donor, who had given to and raised money for Trump, said. "I respectfully request that my money be refunded."

The donor has buyer's remorse after the release of a vulgar videotape last Friday that reveals Trump describing unwanted sexual advances on women.

A second donor also requested his money be returned because he is "mortified" over the leaked videotape, according to another email obtained by NBC News.

"I can not (sic) support a sexist man. I have three young children and will not support a crude sexist man," the second donor wrote. "I expect a refund of my donation. Please process immediately and I thank you for your help."

 

NOW THIS IS TRUE REALITY!!!!  And not a bunch of trump BS!

bigbear29

REALLY!

bigbear29

Exclusive: USA TODAY survey shows that a quarter of elected top Republicans won't endorse Trump:

Twenty-six percent of Republican governors and members of Congress are refusing to endorse GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, according to a survey by the USA TODAY Network.

Of the 31 Republican governors, 54 GOP senators and the 246 Republican members of the House (331 total), the survey identified 87 who arenot endorsing Trump's candidacy as of late

It is an extraordinary demonstration of the fracture Trump’s candidacy has revealed in the Republican Party. There is no precedent in modern American political history for elected officials of either party to refuse en masse to support their presidential nominee. It shows that Trump will have to wage a national campaign without the fleet of surrogates and supporters that every other presidential contender has relied on for decades to help bring voters to the polls. And it illustrates how hard it will be for the GOP to rebuild if Trump loses.

Some of these elected officials rejected Trump months ago; many turned on him since the release of a 2005 tape of Trump making lewd comments about women; and some simply refuse to say whether they will or will not vote for their party's presidential nominee.

 

MORE REALITY!

bigbear29

Trump, party of 1, trump, party of 1,  disaster now being served.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 12, 2016

This is just STUPIDITY!  Go get a education, there will never be a launch on the USA.  It's just a show of power.

Its "an education" not "a education".   Yea you're an engineer, right.  LOL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 12, 2016

He didn't even click the link. Poobear is in the dark.

Washington may be the first city hit, but not the only.

Because he can't read.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Massive Trump rally in Florida yesterday.  He hit Hillary hard.  LOL!  Jump to 1:22 in the video to see Trump.

noise-gate

This is a Serious question for Republicans : Since the establishment was surprised that a non politician has become the party standard bearer after Trump brushed aside the likes of Jeb & Cruz etc- do you envision non politicians being nominated for president in the future? 

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Checking in. Still no email post from Stack of lies? Liar liar pants on fire.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 12, 2016

  • Go ahead and email them. Feel free to post the response. You are such a loser. All talk. Of course when they ask you for a name and address, you will disappear asap. Lol. Such entertainment on my way to work.

Artist77 gets busted and then starts the childish name calling at the fact checker.

"Of course when they ask you for a name and address, you will disappear asap. Lol."

The question is "did the Arlington County Board of Elections give the wrong place to vote to 2000 voters" so why would they ask for a name and address?

"Someone in my neighborhood , who is on the board called, moron."

I called you out for saying "People on the same block were sent to various inconvenient locations and the written instructions had yet a different version.", and sending is much different than someone calling you. So let's just jump to this:

"The county was forced to announce it was a mixup and we would be getting new cards."

Simple question, who forced them and why isn't that announcement on their website?

What we have here is a classic example of the extremes Trumps "poorly educated" supporters will go. First they say there was a major mix up, say the board of election was "FORCED to announce it", but when asked why the announcement isn't on the website, they attack the messenger with more lies and childish name calling.

Supporters like this is why Trump loss Republican Party support, is losing more every day, and is behind by double digits.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 12, 2016

The big troll has a troll. Love it.

But you see nothing wrong with Unluckyone asking for pictures of another LP member in a bikini?

And it was really nasty of you to publicly talk about something private, especially when they mentioned a 4-year-old was in the picture.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 12, 2016

Exclusive: USA TODAY survey shows that a quarter of elected top Republicans won't endorse Trump:

Twenty-six percent of Republican governors and members of Congress are refusing to endorse GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, according to a survey by the USA TODAY Network.

Of the 31 Republican governors, 54 GOP senators and the 246 Republican members of the House (331 total), the survey identified 87 who arenot endorsing Trump's candidacy as of late

It is an extraordinary demonstration of the fracture Trump’s candidacy has revealed in the Republican Party. There is no precedent in modern American political history for elected officials of either party to refuse en masse to support their presidential nominee. It shows that Trump will have to wage a national campaign without the fleet of surrogates and supporters that every other presidential contender has relied on for decades to help bring voters to the polls. And it illustrates how hard it will be for the GOP to rebuild if Trump loses.

Some of these elected officials rejected Trump months ago; many turned on him since the release of a 2005 tape of Trump making lewd comments about women; and some simply refuse to say whether they will or will not vote for their party's presidential nominee.

 

MORE REALITY!

"Of the 31 Republican governors, 54 GOP senators and the 246 Republican members of the House (331 total), the survey identified 87 who are not endorsing Trump's candidacy as of late"

There are more red states (GOP) than blue states (DEM), but the blues states combine for more in population. The real problem for the Republican Party is the Trump Republicans are not voting for regular Republicans in down ticket races. Republican Senator Pat Toomey is a classic example of being caught between a rock and a hard place. Pennsylvania is leaning Democrat by 8 point in the presidential race, but just one of his problems. If he doesn't support Trump, he loses the Trump supporters and if he does support Trump, he risks losing the regular Republican support. Coupled with the large number of Democrat voters, it's going to be very difficult to win re-election.

Three months ago the Republicans were a lock to hold the house, but even that is now looking shaky.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Here's some of your "educated" Hillary supporters stack.

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LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Did you notice during the last debate when Hillary was asked about appointing Supreme Court justices she didn't mention the Constitution once?  Sad Cheers

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Still no post from lump stack of lies about his email to verify my voter card error incident? Show us your email!!! Just like Hillary. When I emailed this morning, got a response back in an hour from the county.  Show us your email stack of lies! I have outed this guy so many times, it is like dealing with a 2 year old. Such a fraud.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 12, 2016

But you see nothing wrong with Unluckyone asking for pictures of another LP member in a bikini?

And it was really nasty of you to publicly talk about something private, especially when they mentioned a 4-year-old was in the picture.

Show us your email! You are desperate to try to change the story. There is no expectation of privacy sending unwanted photos. You should know that basic legal concept. Loser. Show us your email!

destinycreation

What if neither Trump nor Clinton secure 270 electoral votes ???  According to the "RULES" the decision goes to the Congress, to decide between the 3 candidates that received the most electoral votes during the election [which may bring Gary Johnson or Jill Stein into the picture]. 

If for some reason Congress still cannot settle on a choice, under what set of circumstances could Congress throw out all 3 choices, and start over choosing from another pool of candidates that they like better ??? 

Is there any way that Congress could legally choose someone other than the top 3 for President ???

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

If it came to that you can forget Johnson or Stein.  IMO Congress would vote for Hillary given the hatred of Trump by the Republican establishment, in that case, 40% or more of the Republican base would drop out and the Republican party would cease to exist.

bigbear29

It's over for trump, Hillary has a 9 point lead in Ohio.

 

A new poll shows Hillary Clinton surging to a 9-point lead over Donald Trump in Ohio

bigbear29

Donald Trump's poll denialism:

 

Donald Trump has a new target: "Crooked polls."

With Hillary Clinton extending her lead nationwide and in key battleground states, Trump is toying with what might be called "poll denialism," giving his supporters license to dismiss the discouraging data.

"Even the polls are crooked," he said at a Monday night rally, expressing disbelief that he is losing to Clinton in Pennsylvania. "Look, we're in a rigged system."

Trump has only topped Clinton in one scientifically conducted poll in Pennsylvania since it became clear he would be the GOP's nominee back in April, while Clinton has been in the lead in 18 of them. In the most recent polls, Clinton holds a double-digit lead there.

On Tuesday when Bill O'Reilly told him that "you're behind with women," Trump responded, "I'm not sure I believe it. I'm not sure I believe it."

Nearly every national poll finds Clinton well ahead among women, and she holds a 17-point lead among women in the most recent national polling on the race from NBC and the Wall Street Journal.

At a rally Tuesday night, Trump told fans, "The polls are pretty even in Florida. Don't let me down!"

noise-gate

I must admit that there was a time when l thought however unlikely that Trump was a " Plant" sent by the Clinton campaign to destroy the republican party from within, after all he did invite the Clinton's to his wedding,  played golf with bill. But the minute this guy started to go nuclear on her & Bill, l figured that the idea was extremely remote.Whatever remains of the republican party after the election is anyone's guess. The Phoenix has been known to rise from the ashes whether that turns out to be so is left to be seen. Whatever the outcome- Trump has cemented a place in political history. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 12, 2016

It's over for trump, Hillary has a 9 point lead in Ohio.

 

A new poll shows Hillary Clinton surging to a 9-point lead over Donald Trump in Ohio

This is my poll bearfacts... Hillary rallies, 500 people.  Trump rallies 25,000 people.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 12, 2016

This is my poll bearfacts... Hillary rallies, 500 people.  Trump rallies 25,000 people.

As Vader once said " Impressive, most impressive.  But will those folk show up at  the voting booth? That is the question. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Come on noise, they show up on a weekday after work.  Wait in line for hours.  What do you think?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

For those in this thread referring to the news and Hillary;

Subject: WIKILEAKS EXPOSES that CNN is Really Hillary’s SuperPac
To:

http://truthfeed.com/wikileaks-exposes-that-cnn-is-really-hillarys-superpac/28982/?

truthfeed.com
Wikileaks has busted the Clinton campaign bragging about their cozy “courtship” with CNN.  CNN’s explicit bias has been more than obvious to any viewer and this just solidifies what most of us already know – that CNN essentially acts as Hillary’s SuperPac.  Hillary press secretary Nick Merrill went so far as to compare his relationship with CNN Politics producer Dan Merica as the two of them “courting each other.” The FreeBeacon Reports The Hillary Clinton campaign bragged “every single interviewer was for her” during a visit to Michigan during the Democratic primary season, according to recently released hacked emails. Notes from campaign …
Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 3, 2016

If Trump is elected the Clinton's are going to jail.  That's what this whole election is about.

The reason American democracy has been able to survive for so long is because of the strong separation of powers and limits on the powers of office. If Any President starts trying to play judge and jury,  it'll be a massive hole in the fragile structure called American democracy. How such a sentence could give you emotion but fear is beyond me. Laws are created by the Congress and ENFORCED by the Executive Branch, not both by the president.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Oct 4, 2016

Typical democrat, thinking you know what's best for everyone else and taking away an individuals right to choose for themselves. I don't smoke, but I support the right of people to make their own choices, especially in areas that effect their own health.

I Agree! Because authoritarian bans are right-wing not left. Michael Bloomberg was a Republican mayor for a reason. So long as it gets taxed appropriately, I can't care less what people do so long as it doesn't affect me.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 12, 2016

The reason American democracy has been able to survive for so long is because of the strong separation of powers and limits on the powers of office. If Any President starts trying to play judge and jury,  it'll be a massive hole in the fragile structure called American democracy. How such a sentence could give you emotion but fear is beyond me. Laws are created by the Congress and ENFORCED by the Executive Branch, not both by the president.

I Agree!.. Yugo Chavez, President Banda, Mugabe of Zimbabwe are classic cases of people in power who sent opposition leaders to jail. I smh when l read some responders thinking it would be a great idea to do that here in America. Talk about F 'n insanity. I sure would like to know which of his handlers came up with that idea or did Trump simply think it sounded great.l have not read of a single law professor of either party thinking this would ever come about.This is not a banana republic. Talk about one sick puppy. 

dr65's avatardr65

They'll show up alright just to have their vote tossed or tampered with, where they can get away with it.

People do not come out in droves to support someone then not show up where it counts the most.

Hillary needs to lose, plain and simple. 

There are more stories coming out about her that are just atrocious. There is a story on Fox News about an arms

dealer and how the US government ruined his life to protect Hillary. Marc Turi. Hillary's Benghazi testimony contained 

the key words that have kept her out of trouble for so long...I don't know...I'm sure Marc Turi said I don't know

a few times while being questioned by the government with the response - not good enough.

His four felony counts were dropped and the government cannot come after him again. Clinton should have about

400 felony counts against her and here she is still running for President. 

She is being protected by one of the most corrupt administrations in US history. When this all comes out and something

needs to be done about it because it will be too clear to defend, the whole country will fall apart. Obama legacy..Devil's

right hand man. 

How any of you can be in favor of putting blatant corruption in the White House just because she has experience is 

beyond me. To do that, you accept all that she's done and will do and believe me, you haven't seen the full extent of

corruption and government failure and collapse yet.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 5, 2016

Double standard much? So let me get this straight, If she responds, it's just a response, If I respond I'm a stalker? 

Like I say, typical convoluted right wing Fascist logic. Conservatism is the real mental disorder.

Conservatism isn't a mental disorder but most Republican members of congress aren't sane and need to get help

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-20602953

38 Senators voted to spit on the rights of disabled Americans including disabled veterans and their only excuse is complete nonsense about not wanting to provide accommodations that are ALREADY required by ADA.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 12, 2016

I Agree!.. Yugo Chavez, President Banda, Mugabe of Zimbabwe are classic cases of people in power who sent opposition leaders to jail. I smh when l read some responders thinking it would be a great idea to do that here in America. Talk about F 'n insanity. I sure would like to know which of his handlers came up with that idea or did Trump simply think it sounded great.l have not read of a single law professor of either party thinking this would ever come about.This is not a banana republic. Talk about one sick puppy. 

I have no fear that Trump will ACTUALLY do anything like that but it's terrifying to see people not be horrified at the sight of people cheering that. Trump isn't a threat to our democracy, but he's putting us on a very dark road and that's why I need a lottery win!!! Come on Lottery, I need a big win so I can get out of here and not have to worry about money!

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 6, 2016

Evangelical exiles: How Trump is driving some believers away from the GOP:

Donald Trump may “love the evangelicals,” but the feeling is certainly not mutual among a good portion of them.

More than half of the most committed evangelical Christians didn’t support Donald Trump for president in the Republican primary. And although a majority of them have resigned themselves to backing him rather than supporting the Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton, evangelicalism is changing in ways that may not be apparent to the casual observer.

Trump’s candidacy, in fact, is helping to accelerate the trend pushing some evangelicals away from an automatic affiliation with the Republican Party. Evangelicals oppose Trump for a few reasons: They view his character as repugnant and his temperament as dangerous. And while many of them do not like Clinton, they are not as alarmed by their policy disagreements with her as they are by the idea that the church would align itself with someone like Trump.

Two individuals I’ve encountered over the past few months most vividly demonstrate the changing face of evangelicalism, which is increasingly looking past national solutions and focusing on local activism and community building.

The big tent party is getting too big. We need to get rid of the right wingers we already have in the party like Obama and Hillary, not add more.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 12, 2016

I Agree!.. Yugo Chavez, President Banda, Mugabe of Zimbabwe are classic cases of people in power who sent opposition leaders to jail. I smh when l read some responders thinking it would be a great idea to do that here in America. Talk about F 'n insanity. I sure would like to know which of his handlers came up with that idea or did Trump simply think it sounded great.l have not read of a single law professor of either party thinking this would ever come about.This is not a banana republic. Talk about one sick puppy. 

What?

I don't care who sends her, she just needs to go. At least with Trump there will be a push to prosecute. Right now

people are ignoring the criminality of her actions. You do have to admit that if it was anyone else, they would be

in prison. Posh prison, but still prison.

dr65's avatardr65

30 years ago. They're digging deep on this one. Pretty soon 50 years ago won't be absurd. Come on people.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 8, 2016

It's just another distraction to take the heat off of Hillary about her new e mail issues.... It's also funny how this video came out about Trump right before the next debate and also Hillary's emails.. I wouldn't be surprised down the road that it comes out that Hillary was behind this video coming out about Trump just so she gets elected...

Honestly i wouldn't be surprised if the Bushes got Billy to go the archives and release it to damage Trump in epic revenge. Hillary doesn't have access to the archives that stored the video until now.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Oct 12, 2016

Lottery Post will you vote early (before, Nov. 8th) so you can "bank UR vote"    for that day, then go out on Tuesday,...Nov. 8th & help others to the polls?

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New York does not permit no-excuse early voting.

https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_in_New_York#Early_voting

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Oct 12, 2016

What if neither Trump nor Clinton secure 270 electoral votes ???  According to the "RULES" the decision goes to the Congress, to decide between the 3 candidates that received the most electoral votes during the election [which may bring Gary Johnson or Jill Stein into the picture]. 

If for some reason Congress still cannot settle on a choice, under what set of circumstances could Congress throw out all 3 choices, and start over choosing from another pool of candidates that they like better ??? 

Is there any way that Congress could legally choose someone other than the top 3 for President ???

What happens in the case of a second presidential tie? According to the12th Amendment, “if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.” That was later changed to the Vice President-Elect and to January 20 in the 20th Amendment.

The Vice President-Elect is chosen by the Senate in a separate process from the House, according to Amy Bunk, an attorney from the National Archives, which administers the Electoral College. If the Senate, as predicted by most observers right now, goes Democratic, then Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine would become president. If Republicans maintain control of the Upper Chamber, then Indiana Gov. Mike Pence will be the 45th president. If the Senate also deadlocks—the unlikeliest of unlikely scenarios—then the presidency would go to the next person in line, the Speaker of the House, currently Paul Ryan.

http://time.com/4482377/electoral-college-tie/

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 12, 2016

Honestly i wouldn't be surprised if the Bushes got Billy to go the archives and release it to damage Trump in epic revenge. Hillary doesn't have access to the archives that stored the video until now.

I'm sure Hillary has people on her payroll whose sole job is to go around digging up dirt on people. If you can't beat 'em, slander 'em.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 11, 2016

sully, that woman is the devil HIMSELF...she is anti family, anti Christian, anti religion...WHEN IT HAS TO DO WITH OUR

CHOICES. WE NEED TRUMP to be president so that SATAN and that's what I'm going to call her now....so Satan cannot 

choose our next Supreme Court justices and make them all liberal minions working for the destruction of this country.

No religion, No freedom of speech, No guns, No family, No church, No CONSTITUTION. She is pure evil - I knew she was

anti-Christian and that Kaine puppet, he's a pawn in the grand scheme of things...he is supposed to be Catholic, he is NOT.

Churches are restricted, Schools are restricted, WE are restricted and it will get worse. Get used to big brother because they

will be watching EVERYTHING you do if you elect Hillary.

I'm so mad now, I have to stop and go look at this....Yes, they have a problem with Jesus and God, you can't even say the

Pledge or sing the anthem without THINKING you are insulting someone OR them thinking they have a right to tell you to

stop...used to be that IF SOMEONE did not agree, they left...now they are allowed to stay and in the <snip>n minority.

I have rights too and wish to express them and exercise them, I am the MAJORITY and am being punished for it.

 

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Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 11, 2016

I Agree!.. We need to set term limits on Senators as well.This perpetual running for office is crazy.Which reminds me,  how old was Strom Thurmond before he decided to pack it in?  Feinstein is another that should pack it in along with McCain whose got to be creeping in on 90.Now if you going to go after Hill- let's just say give her 4 years to be fair,  if she disappoints- roll her out to pasture. Sounds fair?

Strom Thurmond was 100 when he retired.

McCain is 80, not 90.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 12, 2016

I'm sure Hillary has people on her payroll whose sole job is to go around digging up dirt on people. If you can't beat 'em, slander 'em.

"For all the noise that Donald Trump makes, and all the amplification that noise gets from the media, it’s hard to see the campaign infrastructure that presumably exists behind it. Perhaps that’s because, as Trump aides and other sources close to the campaign revealed to NBC News, there isn’t any infrastructure. Instead, the Trump campaign is reportedly composed of a skeleton crew of a few backstabbing staffers unable to coordinate a coherent message about the presumptive Republican nominee’s vision for America."

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/06/donald-trump-campaign

If i was running, i'd prefer having way more staff than i need instead of not having enough to function. 

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 12, 2016

What?

I don't care who sends her, she just needs to go. At least with Trump there will be a push to prosecute. Right now

people are ignoring the criminality of her actions. You do have to admit that if it was anyone else, they would be

in prison. Posh prison, but still prison.

Trump is right about one thing : He loves the uneducated. We live in a Democracy,  not a banana republic where a leader can prosecute his or her opponent. Does that concept penetrate? Regardless of how you may feel about any politician, you as the President do not threaten  your opponent. You Trump folk have become numb & insensitive. It started with Trump going after Mccain, it was a slow groundswell of support. Then he went further with talk of banning Muslims and so on & so forth.Next you Trump folk started turning on your own kind. Ryan & others are called all kinds of names because they are now stumbling blocks to Trump's ascendency. What the heck is going on in people's minds? This behavior is straight out of a Hollywood scene.Wake up because this is downright dangerous.l wonder what his ilk would say if Donald said his first act as president would be to nuke North Korea? I'm willing to bet there would be dancing in the streets. Oh the Horror. 

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 12, 2016

Strom Thurmond was 100 when he retired.

McCain is 80, not 90.

McCain should give it a rest. I mean at his age he ought to be enjoying his twilight years traveling with the Mrs instead of being hunched over endless documents until they wheel him out on a gurney. By the way 90 is the new 80- no difference. 

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Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Re "the uneducated".

There's a town in Indiana called New Harmony where several attempts were made to make it yet another Utopian Colony. 

As one of the guidebooks says while the intellectuals were discussing world and national issues inside the hogs ate up all that winter's food outside.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 12, 2016

Still no post from lump stack of lies about his email to verify my voter card error incident? Show us your email!!! Just like Hillary. When I emailed this morning, got a response back in an hour from the county.  Show us your email stack of lies! I have outed this guy so many times, it is like dealing with a 2 year old. Such a fraud.

I posted 3 hours before you asked why I didn't post. Do you need glasses too?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 12, 2016

Here's some of your "educated" Hillary supporters stack.

Never mind the fact it took you several days to actually find educated Trump supports. LOL

All you had to do was research the remarks Trump made after the Nevada Caucus to find out why he said "I love the poorly educated!". It was based polling done by RNC that showed most of Trump's support in that state came from what the GOP called "poorly educated". On a similar questionnaire in the KY Republican caucus, it was High School/GED, some college, and college grad.

Why ragging me about it when it was Trump saying "the poorly educated"?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 12, 2016

Re "the uneducated".

There's a town in Indiana called New Harmony where several attempts were made to make it yet another Utopian Colony. 

As one of the guidebooks says while the intellectuals were discussing world and national issues inside the hogs ate up all that winter's food outside.

"Re "the uneducated"."

Trump said it in Nevada. Do you think he was referring to a former Craps dealer?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 12, 2016

Show us your email! You are desperate to try to change the story. There is no expectation of privacy sending unwanted photos. You should know that basic legal concept. Loser. Show us your email!

It was you mentioning the risque [sic] email in a post, not me. Are you claiming you never said this on page 134?

Please note I support Trump. Anyone is better than Hillary. But, no offense, you are not out in the workforce every day so your view is different. You send risque photos of yourself in bikinis to lp people you do not even know. I have received a couple and was more than a little uncomfortable and am not the only lp member who felt that way.Teach your son to judge a woman by her brains and heart, and not her body.

And it was you that said her son was in the photo.  You like playing games, calling adults LP members childish name, but believe me it's no longer funny when someone asks to see the photos.

You are supporting and reinforcing a bigoted sexist lp member who thinks calling someone Miss Piggy...in a worldwide setting , is "funny." This is the same fool who said who cares about professionally educated women and everyone is equal. Really????

Check the polls; Trump is way behind with educated women.

I have great respect for the lp members who say Trump is not perfect but he is way better than the alternative.

Not perfect? Even Fox News is reporting about all the women coming out including women from the Miss Teen pageant who said Trump walked in on them while most of them were unclothed.

"These guys do not rally around Trump's negative comments on women and dismiss it as locker room talk and I appreciate that fact."

That is not "Locker room talk" and not even barracks talk. It's trash-talking from a man that has no respect for women. Why are you defending him?

Trashing women in a public setting is Not trash talk or locker room talk but I am hoping Trump can evolve in that area.

We're taking about the President of the United State and you're "hoping Trump can evolve in that area"?
Which part of Trump talking about grabbing any women he wants by the (whatever) fried the moral decency part your brain?

But when an extremist like that Greenbay moron, latches on to one of Trump's more "colorful" statements and extrapolates it a 100 fold and uses it treat any lp woman like they are third class citizens, be concerned.

When are you going to figure out Trump's supporters parrat what he says and as one of them, you are part of the "locker room talk" problem and not the solution? And stop saying you're speaking for LP women especially after saying  "Please note I support Trump"

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 12, 2016

What happens in the case of a second presidential tie? According to the12th Amendment, “if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.” That was later changed to the Vice President-Elect and to January 20 in the 20th Amendment.

The Vice President-Elect is chosen by the Senate in a separate process from the House, according to Amy Bunk, an attorney from the National Archives, which administers the Electoral College. If the Senate, as predicted by most observers right now, goes Democratic, then Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine would become president. If Republicans maintain control of the Upper Chamber, then Indiana Gov. Mike Pence will be the 45th president. If the Senate also deadlocks—the unlikeliest of unlikely scenarios—then the presidency would go to the next person in line, the Speaker of the House, currently Paul Ryan.

http://time.com/4482377/electoral-college-tie/

If no candidate gets 270 Electoral Votes, the House of Representative chooses between the two getting the most votes. And with all the Republicans coming out against Trump, if they retain the majority, Clinton could still win.

The only scenario where Pence becomes President with neither party getting 270 is if Trump wins in the House and then resigns.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 12, 2016

I'm sure Hillary has people on her payroll whose sole job is to go around digging up dirt on people. If you can't beat 'em, slander 'em.

The woman who said she was groped on a plane, am I supposed to believe Donald was flying Coach?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 13, 2016

It was you mentioning the risque [sic] email in a post, not me. Are you claiming you never said this on page 134?

Please note I support Trump. Anyone is better than Hillary. But, no offense, you are not out in the workforce every day so your view is different. You send risque photos of yourself in bikinis to lp people you do not even know. I have received a couple and was more than a little uncomfortable and am not the only lp member who felt that way.Teach your son to judge a woman by her brains and heart, and not her body.

And it was you that said her son was in the photo.  You like playing games, calling adults LP members childish name, but believe me it's no longer funny when someone asks to see the photos.

You are supporting and reinforcing a bigoted sexist lp member who thinks calling someone Miss Piggy...in a worldwide setting , is "funny." This is the same fool who said who cares about professionally educated women and everyone is equal. Really????

Check the polls; Trump is way behind with educated women.

I have great respect for the lp members who say Trump is not perfect but he is way better than the alternative.

Not perfect? Even Fox News is reporting about all the women coming out including women from the Miss Teen pageant who said Trump walked in on them while most of them were unclothed.

"These guys do not rally around Trump's negative comments on women and dismiss it as locker room talk and I appreciate that fact."

That is not "Locker room talk" and not even barracks talk. It's trash-talking from a man that has no respect for women. Why are you defending him?

Trashing women in a public setting is Not trash talk or locker room talk but I am hoping Trump can evolve in that area.

We're taking about the President of the United State and you're "hoping Trump can evolve in that area"?
Which part of Trump talking about grabbing any women he wants by the (whatever) fried the moral decency part your brain?

But when an extremist like that Greenbay moron, latches on to one of Trump's more "colorful" statements and extrapolates it a 100 fold and uses it treat any lp woman like they are third class citizens, be concerned.

When are you going to figure out Trump's supporters parrat what he says and as one of them, you are part of the "locker room talk" problem and not the solution? And stop saying you're speaking for LP women especially after saying  "Please note I support Trump"

Loser

 Changing the subject. Too funny. Where is that email you were sending to the election board. I love it when a bigot starts acting like he is so above us all and so pro women. Dirtystack. Dimstack. You contradict yourself constantly. Your ocd is in full rage. And where is that email? 

 Did you find a job yet?

By the way, I said I received Multiple photos...and some she claimed she only sent to me. Lol I guess you are upset you did not receive any. Lol

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 13, 2016

The woman who said she was groped on a plane, am I supposed to believe Donald was flying Coach?

Lol. Best comment of the week.

bigbear29

It was in the first class section.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 13, 2016

It was in the first class section.

That narrative has changed, I saw the first interview. ooops, had to fix that.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Hey bear, I hate to tell you this but Trumps back in the lead.

bigbear29

Where is trump back in the lead?

bigbear29

Look at realclearpolitics.com, it shows a group of polls and not just one poll.

dr65's avatardr65

For 30 years it was ok and isn't that how it always happens? I'm sure 30 years ago she knew who he was and

money with hands is way better than no money with hands. Believe me, it would have been reported on the

spot if it was your average Joe blow. But Trump, big, rich businessman it was okay then until 30 years later when 

the lady wants her 15 minutes of fame and wants to be convinced it's newsworthy. It isn't, statute of limitations

in law has its purpose...in non-law life matters, a 30 year lapse makes the matter incidental and sketchy. Where

was she the day it happened? Where was she 1 year after it happened? 5 years? 

Does this make sense to any of you? You're on a plane, minding your own business and out of the blue someone

just starts groping you? If it's that traumatic, you scream, you get someone to help stop it, you notify the police,

you DO something and you don't wait 30 years. Maybe if not gaining the advancement she hoped for was the reason

for not coming forward much earlier and she was ashamed of her own actions, the risk of appearing stupid and insigni-

ficant 30 years later should have prevented her from coming forward today too. 

Some women have got to stop playing games. I fully support any woman who was abused, raped, beaten, degraded,

discriminated against..they have a right to be heard, have a right to be treated with respect and have a right to

be involved in any legal process to address their case and see there is a punishment given to fit the crime. It's the

women who are loose, flirty, tease, lead on and want to play silly mind games with men because of their own sick

insecurities.

I hope he sues and wins. Hillary is having a field day with all of this, it's a diversion and that's what she's master at doing

diverting. Trump did not break government laws. He did not get people killed. He did not lie to members of Congress. He

is not responsible for wasting millions of dollars of taxpayers money on illegal deals, ransom money and funding a multi-million

dollar lifestyle off the backs of hard working Americans. She had the nerve to pounce on what she's calling his lies when she

stood there at the debate and lied herself.

Go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect millions more dollars.

dr65's avatardr65

Someone said that if someone was being assaulted in first class and had their hands

all over you like an octopus...why didn't someone see it?

Yeah.

Why?

noise-gate

It's a draw. Those women accusing Trump and Bill.  How about this new revelation of Trump saying that in 10 years time he would be dating this 10 year old he sees before him?  What of your choice or president saying he'd be dating & banging ivanka if she was not his daughter?  At least Bill went after adults. Oh well. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

It's a draw. Those women accusing Trump and Bill.  How about this new revelation of Trump saying that in 10 years time he would be dating this 10 year old he sees before him?  What of your choice or president saying he'd be dating & banging ivanka if she was not his daughter?  At least Bill went after adults. Oh well. 

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 12, 2016

What happens in the case of a second presidential tie? According to the12th Amendment, “if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.” That was later changed to the Vice President-Elect and to January 20 in the 20th Amendment.

The Vice President-Elect is chosen by the Senate in a separate process from the House, according to Amy Bunk, an attorney from the National Archives, which administers the Electoral College. If the Senate, as predicted by most observers right now, goes Democratic, then Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine would become president. If Republicans maintain control of the Upper Chamber, then Indiana Gov. Mike Pence will be the 45th president. If the Senate also deadlocks—the unlikeliest of unlikely scenarios—then the presidency would go to the next person in line, the Speaker of the House, currently Paul Ryan.

http://time.com/4482377/electoral-college-tie/

Thank you, for this clear explanation.

Then our next president will be either Sen. Tim Kaine, Gov. Mike Pence, or Speaker Paul Ryan.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Oct 13, 2016

Thank you, for this clear explanation.

Then our next president will be either Sen. Tim Kaine, Gov. Mike Pence, or Speaker Paul Ryan.

Actually our next President will be Donald J. Trump.  IMO Mike Pence would also make an excellent President.

destinycreation

What happens if President Obama pardons Hillary Clinton pertaining to this E-mail Scandal, before he leaves office in January 2017 ??? [It might not be wise political strategy for him to do so, but President Obama tends to reason differently at times.]

Can Clinton still be prosecuted by a Special Prosecutor [for the E-mail Scandal] during the term of the next president ??

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Oct 13, 2016

What happens if President Obama pardons Hillary Clinton pertaining to this E-mail Scandal, before he leaves office in January 2017 ??? [It might not be wise political strategy for him to do so, but President Obama tends to reason differently at times.]

Can Clinton still be prosecuted by a Special Prosecutor [for the E-mail Scandal] during the term of the next president ??

He can't pardon her because she hasn't been convicted of anything yet.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Oct 13, 2016

What happens if President Obama pardons Hillary Clinton pertaining to this E-mail Scandal, before he leaves office in January 2017 ??? [It might not be wise political strategy for him to do so, but President Obama tends to reason differently at times.]

Can Clinton still be prosecuted by a Special Prosecutor [for the E-mail Scandal] during the term of the next president ??

A pardon is a pardon, once it's made no one else can undue it.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

He can't pardon her because she hasn't been convicted of anything yet.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/23/madison-gesiotto-potential-obama-pardoning-hillary/

Nixon was never convicted of anything in Watergate but he got the pardon from Ford so that the country can move past the scandal.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

Actually our next President will be Donald J. Trump.  IMO Mike Pence would also make an excellent President.

Same opinion here! Imagine Paul Ryan..I can't stand looking at the guy anymore, Kaine's a puppet you just

can't see his strings. Agenda, agenda, agenda.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

For thge Hillary supporters, is this really what you want in a president;

Confirmed: Hillary Provided Material Assistance to Terrorists, Perjured Herself to Congress
psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 12, 2016

New York does not permit no-excuse early voting.

https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_in_New_York#Early_voting

KOE:

Do you need to show ID when you vote in NY......???   

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

At least Bill went after adults?  Read this article.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/13/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known.html

Oh GB- We always have to take the word of Fox News. Was is not them or part of their ilk that reported that the Clintons were flying in cocaine from south of the border, having Vince Foster killed, that Chelsea is a love-child of some other dude etc etc? Rumor is an album by Fleetwood Mac.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

Oh GB- We always have to take the word of Fox News. Was is not them or part of their ilk that reported that the Clintons were flying in cocaine from south of the border, having Vince Foster killed, that Chelsea is a love-child of some other dude etc etc? Rumor is an album by Fleetwood Mac.

LOL noise... Flight logs prove he made 26 trips to that island.  And on some of the flights he ordered his secret service detail not to attend.

noise-gate

So l take it you not comfortable with Bill as President having an affair with an adult intern,but you comfortable with a President Trump saying  his ready to bang a 10 year old 10 years out & taking on Ivanka ..but but he can't because she"s the daughter? It's a Yes or No answer  dude?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 13, 2016

For thge Hillary supporters, is this really what you want in a president;

Confirmed: Hillary Provided Material Assistance to Terrorists, Perjured Herself to Congress

And this news isn't important? I wish General Patton was alive too. 

Qatar 1,400% increase and increased donations to the Clinton Foundation.

UAE 1,000% increase and increased donations to the Clinton Foundation.

Increase time frame - 2006/08 to 2010/12

Why is this not important to the American people? This is much, much more important that someone planting a kiss

on someone's face or calling them fat. They left out the names Hillary used, which are incidental also but they are

leaving out key pieces of information very relevant to selecting the leader of our country. Trump's follies are far less

important than Hillary's devious ambitions. Are we as a nation so confused that we allow things to become unbalanced

in a way that makes the election process one where character only matters when you're Donald Trump? His character

flaws are far inferior to Hillary's absentee morals, incessant lying to the American public and Congress under oath, her

criminal actions as Secretary of State and her overall unfit, unsound and undesirable principals.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

So l take it you not comfortable with Bill as President having an affair with an adult intern,but you comfortable with a President Trump saying  his ready to bang a 10 year old 10 years out & taking on Ivanka ..but but he can't because she"s the daughter? It's a Yes or No answer  dude?

Got a link?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

LOL noise... Flight logs prove he made 26 trips to that island.  And on some of the flights he ordered his secret service detail not to attend.

Flightlogs is one thing- banging or thinking of banging kids is something vile & disgusting. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

Flightlogs is one thing- banging or thinking of banging kids is something vile & disgusting. 

Show me a link noise.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

Got a link?

It's all out there, l don't do heavy lifting for other people. Check last nights news on Trump and his video on taking on this 10 year old when she turns 20. Dude l don't make this stuff up.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

It's all out there, l don't do heavy lifting for other people. Check last nights news on Trump and his video on taking on this 10 year old when she turns 20. Dude l don't make this stuff up.

Talk and actions are two different things.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

It's a draw. Those women accusing Trump and Bill.  How about this new revelation of Trump saying that in 10 years time he would be dating this 10 year old he sees before him?  What of your choice or president saying he'd be dating & banging ivanka if she was not his daughter?  At least Bill went after adults. Oh well. 

Cut past the crude that is Donald Trump. We all knew that. What we know now, today is that he has a desire to

make this country what it should be.

You need to do a mind dump and deprogram yourself. What you are reading, seeing and hearing is what CNN and

the others want to you to see and will never let you forget. CNN in my opinion is trash news. They are not unbiased

and clearly want our next President to be Hillary Clinton. They are a government controlled media giant. They chose 

sides instead of reporting news. News is the campaign and the candidates. New is global happenings. News is important

topics in the United States and around the world. That type of news falls to 6th headline status in favor of what Trump

said or did recently or a third of a century ago. CNN needs to be renamed LOL network. They are so one-sided and as

arrogant as Hillary herself in believing they are reporting the news that people want. They are a trash tabloid network

with employees who will stand up for Hillary and overlook her own dark, devious, criminal past. They are beyond reputable,

they are disrespectable and have gone way beyond the boundries of fair and balanced. Trump leads everyday in CNN 

headline making news. Why? Not because what he is doing today is wrong but because the things that he's done in the

past, which were at a time when he had nothing to concern himself with except himself and what he could acquire is over-

shadowing what the man sees for us today. He said sorry...that's enough for me.

Oh and your ridiculous new revelation - did he get caught with a 10 year old? You make him sound like a pedophile in 

the making. Or one ready to commit incest. LOL noisy, get with the program. If Hollywood type headlines are your forte

and making issues out of something that happened 30 years ago is important to you in today's election process, then

you have no hope, just a rope to hang yourself with, that's all. Keep on defending crooked Hillary...just don't come crying

when she turns into something you didn't see coming because you insisted on being had by a slimy politician who needs to

be behind bars.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

It's all out there, l don't do heavy lifting for other people. Check last nights news on Trump and his video on taking on this 10 year old when she turns 20. Dude l don't make this stuff up.

Let me guess..LOL network? Digging up the 'important' issues relevant to today's issues.

Keep your head in the sand and behind in the air just like all the other wussies who have to let

someone else tell them what this country needs today.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 13, 2016

Let me guess..LOL network? Digging up the 'important' issues relevant to today's issues.

Keep your head in the sand and behind in the air just like all the other wussies who have to let

someone else tell them what this country needs today.

He's a California lib.  I have a feeling he lost the ability for rational thought long ago.  BTW, I stopped calling other men "dude" after I turned 20.  LOL

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Rumor is an album by Fleetwood Mac

Actually, it's Rumours

This election is like a couple going through a nasty divorce and fighting for custody of all of us.

I don't know 'bout you guys, but I'd rather go live with grandma.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Live stream of the Trump rally in West Palm Beach, Florida...Should start soon.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

He's a California lib.  I have a feeling he lost the ability for rational thought long ago.  BTW, I stopped calling other men "dude" after I turned 20.  LOL

LOL!! I think he IS 20. Puke Big thinking going on there. You know that glass bird with the top hat on

that bends up and down? This one, I found it..

Image result for drinking bird

every time I read a post by noisy, this is what will come to mind. All we need is some sand.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

So l take it you not comfortable with Bill as President having an affair with an adult intern,but you comfortable with a President Trump saying  his ready to bang a 10 year old 10 years out & taking on Ivanka ..but but he can't because she"s the daughter? It's a Yes or No answer  dude?

Do you work for CNN? Or are you just one of the brainwashed goons that believe whatever they tell you is 100% truth?

The answer your 2 part question is No and Yes.

Even I understand the meaning of that statement, it's very crude but in CNN's hands it's the worst of the worst. Not the

murdering, lying, cheating, money hungry, witch. It's Trump because he wants to change the country. Wow, how did

we sink so low?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

Live stream of the Trump rally in West Palm Beach, Florida...Should start soon.

Excellent GreenBay! Ty!!

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

He's a California lib.  I have a feeling he lost the ability for rational thought long ago.  BTW, I stopped calling other men "dude" after I turned 20.  LOL

Actually l am nothing of the kind, responding to your lib statement. I am more of an independent . But since this is a two horse race, l am looking at which horse has the best chance of  winning, and the Stallion is losing. The point people have to do is why is he losing. You know the answers.Big Smile

bigbear29

Swing-state polls show Trump path to WH narrowing:

A trio of state polls released this week show Hillary Clinton's northern "blue wall" holding, as she carries commanding leads across a series of key Rust Belt states.

The polls -- taken after the release of a 2005 recording of Donald Trump talking in a sexually aggressive manner about women -- show Clinton leading in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.
Coupled with Democrats' advantage in the Electoral College, the slate of polls suggests that only an extremely narrow path to the 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidency remains for Trump, who has staked his candidacy in part on flipping some traditionally Democratic states.
Additionally, a Republican National Committee source told CNN's Sara Murray Thursday that the Trump campaign decided to pull resources from the swing state of Virginia, essentially conceding the state to Clinton.
According to CNN's latest battleground map, Trump would need to win one of these states -- Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania -- to get more than the 270 electoral votes needed for victory, even if he also captured Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Iowa, Nevada, and every other state Mitt Romney won in 2012.
noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 13, 2016

Rumor is an album by Fleetwood Mac

Actually, it's Rumours

This election is like a couple going through a nasty divorce and fighting for custody of all of us.

I don't know 'bout you guys, but I'd rather go live with grandma.

Had to look up the year that album came out Mike. Was not born yet  so l get a pass. My mom was a fan & had the album, when l came along years later they still played it.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 13, 2016

Do you work for CNN? Or are you just one of the brainwashed goons that believe whatever they tell you is 100% truth?

The answer your 2 part question is No and Yes.

Even I understand the meaning of that statement, it's very crude but in CNN's hands it's the worst of the worst. Not the

murdering, lying, cheating, money hungry, witch. It's Trump because he wants to change the country. Wow, how did

we sink so low?

This is a first: Who did Hillary Murder? If you can't answer quit asking me questions. Do you recall where Trump said to Billy " l moved on her like a B****?.. 

Well l think you one insane B****

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Another excellent speech by Trump today.  Did you watch it noise?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

Another excellent speech by Trump today.  Did you watch it noise?

NoWis, l didn't watch.  Did he say anything new? Perhaps saying how sorry he was for importing steel from China instead of using American steel? Did he have a look of remorse?  I know that he can go to some extent to get what he wants like rounding up Bill's accusers. Why not beg the steel workers of America for forgiveness!  Btw- Romney gave Great Speeches but look what happened to him? You so know that the night Obama won re election that Mitt had boxes of business cards ready to pass out that read " Mitt Romney- POTUS"..It's been said that his wife was crying like a baby because of the disappointment. The Donald better brace for it. 

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

He's a California lib.  I have a feeling he lost the ability for rational thought long ago.  BTW, I stopped calling other men "dude" after I turned 20.  LOL

Green laugh

bigbear29

Trump campaign says it's suing the New York Times:

 

Donald Trump’s campaign says that it’s going to sue the New York Times over a story that ran earlier in the day about two women who each alleged that Donald Trump had touched them inappropriately.

Late Wednesday night, Trump lawyer Marc Kasowitz fired off a letter to Times Executive Editor Dean Baquet demanding the retraction of the story. He accused the Times of inadequately investigating the stories and drew attention to the time that’s elapsed since the alleged attacks took place, in one case 11 years ago, and the other, over 30 years ago. Kasowitz also threatened to sue the Times over its release of some of Trump’s tax records a few weeks ago.

 

Trump is lying if he does not sue!

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 13, 2016

Green laugh

Anything substantive to say apart from looking foolish?  Perhaps wondering why a relative of yours still hangs onto that old dress from Woodstock? Memories perhaps.  You guys would have been laughed at in the debate classes l witnessed. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

NoWis, l didn't watch.  Did he say anything new? Perhaps saying how sorry he was for importing steel from China instead of using American steel? Did he have a look of remorse?  I know that he can go to some extent to get what he wants like rounding up Bill's accusers. Why not beg the steel workers of America for forgiveness!  Btw- Romney gave Great Speeches but look what happened to him? You so know that the night Obama won re election that Mitt had boxes of business cards ready to pass out that read " Mitt Romney- POTUS"..It's been said that his wife was crying like a baby because of the disappointment. The Donald better brace for it. 

noise... Trumps a businessman.  He saves money where he can.  Tell me, is that a bad trait for a President to have?  If he runs America like a business, we will be much better off.  And yes, I would like to see him buy American steel... It all boils down to cost.  Tell me one thing, has this administration done anything about China's currency manipulation?  That's a big part of the problem.  Bill Clinton's NAFTA was a bad deal too.

bigbear29

The New York Times' general counsel has just informed Donald Trump's lawyer, in scathing terms, that it will not retract its story about two women who claim that Trump touched them inappropriately.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 12, 2016

Honestly i wouldn't be surprised if the Bushes got Billy to go the archives and release it to damage Trump in epic revenge. Hillary doesn't have access to the archives that stored the video until now.

   Wouldn't surprise me either...

bigbear29

Donald Trump, Slipping in Polls, Warns of ‘Stolen Election’:

 

Trump  has lashed out at fellow Republicans, calling them “disloyal” and “far more difficult” than Hillary Clinton.

He has griped openly about a “rigged” political system, saying Wednesday he has “no respect” for the nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates and complaining about a “defective” microphone in the first debate.

And on Monday, at a rally in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., he worried the election could be “stolen” from him and singled out Philadelphia, a city with a large African-American population, warning, “We have to make sure we’re protected.”

Mr. Trump’s ominous claims of a “stolen election” — which he often links to black, urban neighborhoods — are not entirely new. But in recent days, he has been pressing the theme with a fresh intensity, citing everything from the potential for Election Day fraud to media bias favoring Mrs. Clinton to rigged debates.

The assertions — which coincide with Mr. Trump’s decline in the polls in the wake of a shaky first debate performance and accusations he forced himself on women — highlight concerns that he may not accept a Clinton victory, breaking from the traditional decorum of defeated presidential candidates and undermining the legitimacy of the election result.

At rallies in recent days, Mr. Trump has become a candidate seething with excuses, perhaps the clearest manifestation of his frustration with his current standing in the polls and the growing alarm within his campaign that a White House victory is slipping away.

On Monday, on a trip through Pennsylvania, Mr. Trump began the day urging the almost entirely white crowd outside Pittsburgh to show up to vote, warning about “other communities” that could hijack his victory.

“So important that you watch other communities, because we don’t want this election stolen from us,” he said. “We do not want this election stolen.”

Later, at the evening rally in Wilkes-Barre, Mr. Trump raised more concerns about voting fraud: “I just hear such reports about Philadelphia,” he said. “I hear these horror shows, and we have to make sure that this election is not stolen from us and is not taken away from us.”

He added for emphasis: “Everybody knows what I’m talking about.”

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

noise... Trumps a businessman.  He saves money where he can.  Tell me, is that a bad trait for a President to have?  If he runs America like a business, we will be much better off.  And yes, I would like to see him buy American steel... It all boils down to cost.  Tell me one thing, has this administration done anything about China's currency manipulation?  That's a big part of the problem.  Bill Clinton's NAFTA was a bad deal too.

Wiz- no president of the United States ever willingly makes deal to short change the American workers.They ALL want the best for America. Btw- Over 100 repubs voted for nafta. But that's beside the point,  what l see from both candidates is making these huge promises & we know only to well that it's BS. My thing with Trump is that he * thinks just because his a business that he can run the country. If you going to go around the country telling people you want to make America Great again,  why not tell the people that upfront that you have done the American workers harm by let's say importing Chinese steel & in the next breath say " l will not" make that mistake again. He just seems to brush things off & moves on. Business man or not- own up to your mistakes dammit. His pattern is l will say this & that and will admit it if l'm caught in a lie or evidence is produced. This last debate was the perfect vehicle for Trump to have spent at the very least 3 - 5 mins explaining how foolish he was in making those comments about a woman, instead within seconds his moving on to another topic.lf you married you darn well know that you almost have to pierce the veil in bringing some women around to letting you know that you care & value their respect, it's a job. This guy just blows by & expects some women to say l almost thought I saw a tear " yeah, that's enough." as you were. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

noise... He's not President yet.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 13, 2016

Loser

 Changing the subject. Too funny. Where is that email you were sending to the election board. I love it when a bigot starts acting like he is so above us all and so pro women. Dirtystack. Dimstack. You contradict yourself constantly. Your ocd is in full rage. And where is that email? 

 Did you find a job yet?

By the way, I said I received Multiple photos...and some she claimed she only sent to me. Lol I guess you are upset you did not receive any. Lol

More childish name calling; How about that.

"Where is that email you were sending to the election board"

It doesn't take you very long to conveniently forgot what you said. "The county was forced to announce it was a mixup and we would be getting new cards." and I asked YOU who forced them to make the announcement and why wasn't it on their website.

Calling me childish names doesn't change the fact you made a claim against your county election board you can't prove.

"By the way, I said I received Multiple photos...and some she claimed she only sent to me."

Why are telling me?

"Trashing women in a public setting is Not trash talk or locker room talk but I am hoping Trump can evolve in that area."

Childish name calling isn't helping Trump's s predator problems and it's not helping you to prove your "county was force to announce it was a mixup". I can see why Trump "loves the poorly educated".

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 13, 2016

Lol. Best comment of the week.

RE: Poorly educated.

Read the story, she was "upgraded to first class" and the seat next to Trump.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

This is a first: Who did Hillary Murder? If you can't answer quit asking me questions. Do you recall where Trump said to Billy " l moved on her like a B****?.. 

Well l think you one insane B****

noise-gate

Word to the wise: When humanitarian aid is given to countries , it is usually stalled somewhere in that country.ln some cases getting it into the hands of those who need it is not the givers fault.It's been noted in some cases that the aid rots on the docks.l.am trying hard not to call you a moron Wiz..l really am.lm surprised you didn't blame hillary for the disaster. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

Word to the wise: When humanitarian aid is given to countries , it is usually stalled somewhere in that country.ln some cases getting it into the hands of those who need it is not the givers fault.It's been noted in some cases that the aid rots on the docks.l.am trying hard not to call you a moron Wiz..l really am.lm surprised you didn't blame hillary for the disaster. 

Who's the moron here noise???  The Clinton's weren't the <snip> givers, they were the F'n takers.  Can't you read bigmouth?????

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noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

noise... He's not President yet.

So you agreeing with me that he shouldn't be....Cool.Big Smile

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

He's a California lib.  I have a feeling he lost the ability for rational thought long ago.  BTW, I stopped calling other men "dude" after I turned 20.  LOL

I guess it's a California thing calling others "dude". Some folks never grow out of their teens and it seems fairly obvious with those from the liberal wonderland of California.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 12, 2016

I must admit that there was a time when l thought however unlikely that Trump was a " Plant" sent by the Clinton campaign to destroy the republican party from within, after all he did invite the Clinton's to his wedding,  played golf with bill. But the minute this guy started to go nuclear on her & Bill, l figured that the idea was extremely remote.Whatever remains of the republican party after the election is anyone's guess. The Phoenix has been known to rise from the ashes whether that turns out to be so is left to be seen. Whatever the outcome- Trump has cemented a place in political history. 

Lots of people thought the same thing because Trump is more liberal than Clinton. And during the Republican debates, Trump systematically went after his top opponents one at a time. He didn't waste any time on the "also rans".

I feel bad for the evangelicals supporting Trump especially Mike Pence who are now trying to justify his "locker room" talk and all the accusations.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

Who's the moron here noise???  The Clinton's weren't the <snip> givers, they were the F'n takers.  Can't you read bigmouth?????

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If the Clinton Foundation is so evil as you and others claim..why is it still in business?  That question could also be asked of the republican party;  with all these hearings going on,  when do you really do the job the voters sent you to do in the first place? Btw- l have read enough of the Foundation to know that it does serve it's purpose. I can't think of a Bush or any republican foundation that does anything like this.  Oh they have libraries but like.. shtt yeah.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

Anything substantive to say apart from looking foolish?  Perhaps wondering why a relative of yours still hangs onto that old dress from Woodstock? Memories perhaps.  You guys would have been laughed at in the debate classes l witnessed. 

well well, look who showed back up to make the customery snide remarks.  I thought you were so much above such trivial nonsense and what was it you called it "dick measuring"?

You are nothing more than a snot nosed punk.  Go back and bury your head in the sand Azzwipe.  In case you cant figure it out, no reply is needed or warranted.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Oct 13, 2016

I guess it's a California thing calling others "dude". Some folks never grow out of their teens and it seems fairly obvious with those from the liberal wonderland of California.

So which State are you from Bunny? You want to throw your two cents into the hats, welcome. I am ready to take you on . Don't be shy. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

So which State are you from Bunny? You want to throw your two cents into the hats, welcome. I am ready to take you on . Don't be shy. 

If I were to take a guess, I'd say Colorado.  The ski capital of America.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

If I were to take a guess, I'd say Colorado.  The ski capital of America.

They got thin air there ...right?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 13, 2016

Look at realclearpolitics.com, it shows a group of polls and not just one poll.

In the same article Greenbay linked to it said "Clinton still held a four-point 43% to 39% lead over Trump, but that was down from five points on Tuesday"

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 13, 2016

well well, look who showed back up to make the customery snide remarks.  I thought you were so much above such trivial nonsense and what was it you called it "dick measuring"?

You are nothing more than a snot nosed punk.  Go back and bury your head in the sand Azzwipe.  In case you cant figure it out, no reply is needed or warranted.

 Oh its you, pardon my recollection.  Were you not the one to say Adiós when you clocked out. I thought you were done with me. So you back for .. what? Just to let you know, if you indirectly make a snide remark on anything related to me and l catch it- l will be jumping all over your arrse.

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 11, 2016

wow..Obama wants to send humans to Mars by 2030...why doesn't he go and take Hillary with him?

Wishful thinking...many of us would like that.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 13, 2016

In the same article Greenbay linked to it said "Clinton still held a four-point 43% to 39% lead over Trump, but that was down from five points on Tuesday"

Stack I'm going to start calling you twister.  Rasmussen said that was yesterday.  Today its Trump 43%, Clinton 41%.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch_oct13

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

Who's the moron here noise???  The Clinton's weren't the <snip> givers, they were the F'n takers.  Can't you read bigmouth?????

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"Who's the moron here noise???"

Don't shoot the messenger, but according to Artist77, it's you.

But when an extremist like that Greenbay moron, latches on to one of Trump's more "colorful" statements and extrapolates it a 100 fold and uses it treat any lp woman like they are third class citizens, be concerned.

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

So which State are you from Bunny? You want to throw your two cents into the hats, welcome. I am ready to take you on . Don't be shy. 

Throw my two cents into the hat? I don't waste money on liberals especially those from California who address others as "dude". FYI, I am not shy.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

About the steel thing. It is about cost. It costs more to make here than overseas.

I sell furniture. A lot of furniture (mostly case goods) comes from China, and now Vietnam. Why? It costs less to make overseas than in the US. I don't like it but it is what it is. It's not uncommon for a customer to come in the store and tell me they want a new bedroom group made in USA. Can't give them one. They can find it if they look hard enough, but they're gonna have to put their money where they're mouth is because they will pay much more. 

There are many reasons cost is higher here, partly due to union wages, (not always union) and our higher standard of living. Which is great, but not everyone is willing to pay higher prices.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 13, 2016

"Who's the moron here noise???"

Don't shoot the messenger, but according to Artist77, it's you.

But when an extremist like that Greenbay moron, latches on to one of Trump's more "colorful" statements and extrapolates it a 100 fold and uses it treat any lp woman like they are third class citizens, be concerned.

Twisting twister... Don't drag me into your argument with her.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

Twisting twister... Don't drag me into your argument with her.

I never argued with Artist77 when they said "that Greenbay moron".

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 13, 2016

I never argued with Artist77 when they said "that Greenbay moron".

Who's they?  Aren't we talking about one person?  Its 5 O'clock somewhere huh Stackaroo.  Keep on twisting.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

Who's they?  Aren't we talking about one person?  Its 5 O'clock somewhere huh Stackaroo.  Keep on twisting.

There is no gender indicated on their LP profile. What was I twisting when they called you a "moron"?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 13, 2016

There is no gender indicated on their LP profile. What was I twisting when they called you a "moron"?

And you really can't tell by her posts?  Have another one.  LOL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Oct 13, 2016

Wishful thinking...many of us would like that.

Bunny slopes- do you recall W Bush saying that he wanted Americans to land on an asteroid? I do.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Oct 13, 2016

Throw my two cents into the hat? I don't waste money on liberals especially those from California who address others as "dude". FYI, I am not shy.

Sure you shy. Just by looking at the number of posts you have put in since you arrived here.You not a blonde either. Hope l didn't scare you away,  after all this could have been the start of a Great friendship.

Can you hear me up there..hello..hello..Hello * this darn echo . Must be the mountains. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

Sure you shy. Just by looking at the number of posts you have put in since you arrived here.You not a blonde either. Hope l didn't scare you away,  after all this could have been the start of a Great friendship.

Can you hear me up there..hello..hello..Hello * this darn echo . Must be the mountains. 

Are you Bill Clinton?  Just wondering.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 13, 2016

About the steel thing. It is about cost. It costs more to make here than overseas.

I sell furniture. A lot of furniture (mostly case goods) comes from China, and now Vietnam. Why? It costs less to make overseas than in the US. I don't like it but it is what it is. It's not uncommon for a customer to come in the store and tell me they want a new bedroom group made in USA. Can't give them one. They can find it if they look hard enough, but they're gonna have to put their money where they're mouth is because they will pay much more. 

There are many reasons cost is higher here, partly due to union wages, (not always union) and our higher standard of living. Which is great, but not everyone is willing to pay higher prices.

"It's not uncommon for a customer to come in the store and tell me they want a new bedroom group made in USA. Can't give them one."

I'm not going to give any store free advertising, but search "stores selling US made furniture" and several known store brands are listed. However cost is a huge reason why people don't always buy American, but there are several US furniture makers making lots of money.

bigbear29

Who will win the presidency?

Chance of winning

Hillary Clinton 87.3%    Donald Trump  12.7%

Electoral votes

Hillary Clinton  343.5

Donald Trump  194.1

Evan McMullin   0.2

Gary Johnson    0.2

Popular vote

Hillary Clinton  49.4%

Donald Trum    42.7%

Gary Johnson    6.4%

Other      1.5%

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 13, 2016

Who will win the presidency?

Chance of winning

Hillary Clinton 87.3%    Donald Trump  12.7%

Electoral votes

Hillary Clinton  343.5

Donald Trump  194.1

Evan McMullin   0.2

Gary Johnson    0.2

Popular vote

Hillary Clinton  49.4%

Donald Trum    42.7%

Gary Johnson    6.4%

Other      1.5%

Comrade... Can I have tomorrow's winning Wisconsin Supercash numbers?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

And you really can't tell by her posts?  Have another one.  LOL

"And you really can't tell by her posts?"

Just five minutes ago I told there is no gender indicated on their profile. Is that like when Trump said someone weighing 400 sitting on their bed could be doing the hacking?

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 8, 2016

Geez. Really Artist???

For what it's worth, she sent me pics of herself and her son fully clothed, and a pic of her in a bikini and her son in a bathing suit when they were out in a boat on the lake. I am a man. I did not think anything of it. If she had been swimming with all of her clothes on, now I would have thought that strange. Really Artist, you are making something out of nothing here. Do you have self image issues?

Oh, and I did compliment her......about her son.

I have pm'd drenick1 a few times but never received any provacative bikini pics. She seems like a very nice lady who is very proud of her son and happily married. I seriously doubt she is attempting to pick up anyone.

I am thinking the word "piggy" must have really hit home with artist and mixing that with a bikini photo must have struck a nerve. I too believe she may have self image issues and I do feel for her. Large ladies in America have little respect these days and disparaging remarks from men just make it worse.

For the record, I am not large or overweight and do not belittle others based on weight or lack there of.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Oct 13, 2016

I have pm'd drenick1 a few times but never received any provacative bikini pics. She seems like a very nice lady who is very proud of her son and happily married. I seriously doubt she is attempting to pick up anyone.

I am thinking the word "piggy" must have really hit home with artist and mixing that with a bikini photo must have struck a nerve. I too believe she may have self image issues and I do feel for her. Large ladies in America have little respect these days and disparaging remarks from men just make it worse.

For the record, I am not large or overweight and do not belittle others based on weight or lack there of.

Lurking

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

Sure you shy. Just by looking at the number of posts you have put in since you arrived here.You not a blonde either. Hope l didn't scare you away,  after all this could have been the start of a Great friendship.

Can you hear me up there..hello..hello..Hello * this darn echo . Must be the mountains. 

I am not a redhead, blonde or brunette but I do have snakes crawling out of my head and if you stare into my eyes.....

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 13, 2016

"And you really can't tell by her posts?"

Just five minutes ago I told there is no gender indicated on their profile. Is that like when Trump said someone weighing 400 sitting on their bed could be doing the hacking?

You're not making any sense.  Are you having a stroke?  Should we call 911 for you?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

Are you Bill Clinton?  Just wondering.

No wis, just that I rarely get females chiming into any of my posts- except the regular one's from time to time. I hate upsetting females.Tbis Chick looked promising but oh well.. Unhappy

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Oct 13, 2016

I am not a redhead, blonde or brunette but I do have snakes crawling out of my head and if you stare into my eyes.....

Oo- Medusa. 

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 13, 2016

I never argued with Artist77 when they said "that Greenbay moron".

You are the reigning king or queen of the psychos. Where is that email you were sending to the election board? You did not think that through but that is typical of your convoluted logic. It is fascinating to watch you in action. It is like a window into the world of a mentally ill person. The twisting of facts, trying to get others to gang up on others, the threats, then the pretending of  being offended on behalf of another lp member, then finally,  the changing of the subject when you are outed still again. Very ocd as well. I guess this explains why you cannot hold a job.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

OH NO.  ARTIST IS BACK.  LOOKOUT TWISTER.

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

Oo- Medusa. 

Oooh, you know my name!

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

OH NO.  ARTIST IS BACK.  LOOKOUT TWISTER.

Lol

 I will take that as a compliment.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 13, 2016

Lol

 I will take that as a compliment.

Yes.  I call Stack twister because he twists facts all the time.  I like you, even though you called me a moron.  LOL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

OH NO.  ARTIST IS BACK.  LOOKOUT TWISTER.

Didn't you tell Artist to STFU  a few posts back wis? When did you two kiss & make up?

bigbear29

0, 4, 7, 10

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 13, 2016

0, 4, 7, 10

Comrade Supercash is a 6/39 game.  Dummy!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

Didn't you tell Artist to STFU  a few posts back wis? When did you two kiss & make up?

Yea, so what.  Who's talking to you anyway?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

Didn't you tell Artist to STFU  a few posts back wis? When did you two kiss & make up?

See my above email. This is your go to option #4.

bigbear29

6, 39

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 13, 2016

6, 39

Funny guy.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

No wis, just that I rarely get females chiming into any of my posts- except the regular one's from time to time. I hate upsetting females.Tbis Chick looked promising but oh well.. Unhappy

Why are you whispering? What?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Oct 13, 2016

I have pm'd drenick1 a few times but never received any provacative bikini pics. She seems like a very nice lady who is very proud of her son and happily married. I seriously doubt she is attempting to pick up anyone.

I am thinking the word "piggy" must have really hit home with artist and mixing that with a bikini photo must have struck a nerve. I too believe she may have self image issues and I do feel for her. Large ladies in America have little respect these days and disparaging remarks from men just make it worse.

For the record, I am not large or overweight and do not belittle others based on weight or lack there of.

Too funny

 Yet several male lp members said they received similar swimsuit shots...with no children...where she was discussing her body. They shared her emails with me. Lol She also sent one to me of her on a swing. She is a swinger. Guess you joined her 3 some. Let's be honest, she is about a 2 on a scale of 10. Have fun.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 13, 2016

Why are you whispering? What?

Are you a female? 

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 13, 2016

Too funny

 Yet several male lp members said they received similar swimsuit shots...with no children...where she was discussing her body. They shared her emails with me. Lol She also sent one to me of her on a swing. She is a swinger. Guess you joined her 3 some. Let's be honest, she is about a 2 on a scale of 10. Have fun.

PS ski bunny. If you want to prolong this, I may have to consider posting those emails.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

This is a first: Who did Hillary Murder? If you can't answer quit asking me questions. Do you recall where Trump said to Billy " l moved on her like a B****?.. 

Well l think you one insane B****

There have been reports of the Clinton's being implicated in the numerous deaths of key witnesses, partners, associates.

There are strong ties to very many of them...some say 90, some say 46...it's just a bit too coincidental. Mainly, it's people

who were to testify or were witnesses to certain events that would have put a bad light on the Clinton's. People with secrets

that the Clinton's wanted kept secret. 

And I think you're wet behind the ears. 

http://www.anonews.co/clintons-kill-list/

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 13, 2016

There have been reports of the Clinton's being implicated in the numerous deaths of key witnesses, partners, associates.

There are strong ties to very many of them...some say 90, some say 46...it's just a bit too coincidental. Mainly, it's people

who were to testify or were witnesses to certain events that would have put a bad light on the Clinton's. People with secrets

that the Clinton's wanted kept secret. 

And I think you're wet behind the ears. 

http://www.anonews.co/clintons-kill-list/

I find it amazing that there has never been a serious investigation into all the people that died that were close to the Clintons. Suicide? That many?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 13, 2016

I find it amazing that there has never been a serious investigation into all the people that died that were close to the Clintons. Suicide? That many?

The one guy killed himself with a gun, shot himself in the back of the head.

Another was killed in an early morning robbery, oooops, bad guy forgot to take the cash, credit card, ring, watch.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 13, 2016

The one guy killed himself with a gun, shot himself in the back of the head.

Another was killed in an early morning robbery, oooops, bad guy forgot to take the cash, credit card, ring, watch.

Re: the young guy killed in DC. That is a very nice street and crime like that does not happen there. I know that street and actually spent a month walking by there in the early morning last summer....I was working off site with a client.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 13, 2016

Yes.  I call Stack twister because he twists facts all the time.  I like you, even though you called me a moron.  LOL

Well he is also called Twister because some days he is Mademoiselle Stack. I heard he liked Melania's pink blouse with a bow so much that he ordered one just like it!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 13, 2016

There have been reports of the Clinton's being implicated in the numerous deaths of key witnesses, partners, associates.

There are strong ties to very many of them...some say 90, some say 46...it's just a bit too coincidental. Mainly, it's people

who were to testify or were witnesses to certain events that would have put a bad light on the Clinton's. People with secrets

that the Clinton's wanted kept secret. 

And I think you're wet behind the ears. 

http://www.anonews.co/clintons-kill-list/

l am ALL for law & order, if someone does a crime,  l want them prosecuted- regardless of whether they a president,  first lady or whatever. But until we get a confession from a Hitman, video tape of said crime with information leading up to the culprits..It's just hearsay. Which brings up another thing- all these Wikileaks have not " uncovered" any so called " take them out" statements. It's pretty amusing that tens of millions Dollars have been spent investigating the Clinton's and all these agencies have come up empty. Either these investigators are totally incompetent or the Clinton's are smarter than all of them put together. Sorry to ruin your day but facts are facts until proven otherwise. Which raises something more profound.  We all want a President whose smarts are off the charts. If Hillary is THIS good, that's who l want taking on the Russians, North Korea,  China. Like it or not- if she can she can handle this much scrutiny at home- she can most certainly handle any BS abroad. 

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

l am ALL for law & order, if someone does a crime,  l want them prosecuted- regardless of whether they a president,  first lady or whatever. But until we get a confession from a Hitman, video tape of said crime with information leading up to the culprits..It's just hearsay. Which brings up another thing- all these Wikileaks have not " uncovered" any so called " take them out" statements. It's pretty amusing that tens of millions Dollars have been spent investigating the Clinton's and all these agencies have come up empty. Either these investigators are totally incompetent or the Clinton's are smarter than all of them put together. Sorry to ruin your day but facts are facts until proven otherwise. Which raises something more profound.  We all want a President whose smarts are off the charts. If Hillary is THIS good, that's who l want taking on the Russians, North Korea,  China. Like it or not- if she can she can handle this much scrutiny at home- she can most certainly handle any BS abroad. 

Its not smarts. Its money.

sully16's avatarsully16

This just in, the woman on the plane, also happens to be a secretary at the Clinton Foundation.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 13, 2016

This just in, the woman on the plane, also happens to be a secretary at the Clinton Foundation.

Well. What a coincidence. Not.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 13, 2016

Its not smarts. Its money.

There's that saying : Follow the money, thing is no one has ever come forth in decades to say " Yes, they made me do these illegal jobs  and l was handsomely paid for my Services. After all we getting ex secret agents who are "spilling the beans"on this and that concerning the Clintons & especially in an election year. How unsurprising.

But thinking over your response.. Yeah, sure, why not rcb.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

l am ALL for law & order, if someone does a crime,  l want them prosecuted- regardless of whether they a president,  first lady or whatever. But until we get a confession from a Hitman, video tape of said crime with information leading up to the culprits..It's just hearsay. Which brings up another thing- all these Wikileaks have not " uncovered" any so called " take them out" statements. It's pretty amusing that tens of millions Dollars have been spent investigating the Clinton's and all these agencies have come up empty. Either these investigators are totally incompetent or the Clinton's are smarter than all of them put together. Sorry to ruin your day but facts are facts until proven otherwise. Which raises something more profound.  We all want a President whose smarts are off the charts. If Hillary is THIS good, that's who l want taking on the Russians, North Korea,  China. Like it or not- if she can she can handle this much scrutiny at home- she can most certainly handle any BS abroad. 

Is that all you need is a confession from a hitman? There are some pretty sleezy ones out there. I doubt you would

believe any of them. I saw a quote, I'd have to find it. 

You have a lot to learn. Money talks. They were in and are in powerful positions. If you do not think these things happen

go back to the hole you crawled out of because you are clearly out of touch, out of the loop and out of your mind.

You're not ruining anyone's day but your own. By constantly coming back and solidifying your position of Pro-Hillary

you just prove you are another casualty of CNN's lean, support and biased public brainwashing and the Washington

DC political sideshow they want you to accept no questions asked. The Clinton's think they are smart, but more than

smart they are RICH. They have ties to and their hands in everything. The Russians don't care for Hillary and they don't

like Washington antics, North Korea, that's a real big joke and China, yes China...she can just offer them some deal 

I suppose but I think that Russia will tell her to kiss their azz, North Korea will not even let her in their airspace without

shooting her down and China doesn't need her at all. In fact that whole area is a major hot spot so when and if your sweet

lying Hillary ever comes to power and starts pushing what she thinks is smart around you can thank her for WW3.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 13, 2016

This just in, the woman on the plane, also happens to be a secretary at the Clinton Foundation.

Figures, in more ways than one. $$$$$$$

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 13, 2016

This just in, the woman on the plane, also happens to be a secretary at the Clinton Foundation.

Lou Dobbs tweeted her address and phone number to his 793,000 followers, has since issued apology. Roll Eyes

This 74 year old must have dementia. She stated the 'attack' which I think was actually 'consent' lasted 15 minutes.

Was everyone on the flight blind and deaf? Where were her calls for help if it was so traumatic? 

It took her this many years to sort it out in her head that she had a problem with it? 

If there is a crime committed people report it to the police or an authority. The nutcases are coming out of the cracks

and they want their due. I hope they get it. Things catch up with people like that. I expect a confession or two in the

not too distant future. Dobbs won't be the only one that issued an apology. These are the types of dirt that make it hard

for real victims to be believed, respected and compensated mentally, emotionally and physically. Let Michele Obama 

start thinking about her own daughters before she goes and blindly believes anyone who screams grope. They need

to know these are serious allegations and the ramifications are very long lasting. They need to not fall into the trap

of labeling everything rape or inappropriate. It doesn't make a strong woman, in certain cases it makes her very

weak.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 13, 2016

Is that all you need is a confession from a hitman? There are some pretty sleezy ones out there. I doubt you would

believe any of them. I saw a quote, I'd have to find it. 

You have a lot to learn. Money talks. They were in and are in powerful positions. If you do not think these things happen

go back to the hole you crawled out of because you are clearly out of touch, out of the loop and out of your mind.

You're not ruining anyone's day but your own. By constantly coming back and solidifying your position of Pro-Hillary

you just prove you are another casualty of CNN's lean, support and biased public brainwashing and the Washington

DC political sideshow they want you to accept no questions asked. The Clinton's think they are smart, but more than

smart they are RICH. They have ties to and their hands in everything. The Russians don't care for Hillary and they don't

like Washington antics, North Korea, that's a real big joke and China, yes China...she can just offer them some deal 

I suppose but I think that Russia will tell her to kiss their azz, North Korea will not even let her in their airspace without

shooting her down and China doesn't need her at all. In fact that whole area is a major hot spot so when and if your sweet

lying Hillary ever comes to power and starts pushing what she thinks is smart around you can thank her for WW3.

Your post gave me a headache half way through. You threw me off with your " crawl back to your hole" statement. You seem tense, look in a few weeks time we going to get a New President. I like new things, how about you? The problem we have is that your choice for President is not well liked by women, and there is nothing your guy can do to turn it around. l would like to help you, well not really. The voters are going to make the final decision as to who they want in the Oval Office and there is not a thing  both you can do about it. When was your last meditation class if you don't mind me asking?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 13, 2016

Lou Dobbs tweeted her address and phone number to his 793,000 followers, has since issued apology. Roll Eyes

This 74 year old must have dementia. She stated the 'attack' which I think was actually 'consent' lasted 15 minutes.

Was everyone on the flight blind and deaf? Where were her calls for help if it was so traumatic? 

It took her this many years to sort it out in her head that she had a problem with it? 

If there is a crime committed people report it to the police or an authority. The nutcases are coming out of the cracks

and they want their due. I hope they get it. Things catch up with people like that. I expect a confession or two in the

not too distant future. Dobbs won't be the only one that issued an apology. These are the types of dirt that make it hard

for real victims to be believed, respected and compensated mentally, emotionally and physically. Let Michele Obama 

start thinking about her own daughters before she goes and blindly believes anyone who screams grope. They need

to know these are serious allegations and the ramifications are very long lasting. They need to not fall into the trap

of labeling everything rape or inappropriate. It doesn't make a strong woman, in certain cases it makes her very

weak.

Exactly, Sunday I went to my Niece's wedding shower, my brother in law gave me a hug and a kiss, I guess by the new standards, I was actually assaulted . The groom to be gave me a hug, omg, I was assaulted twice at a shower. Wait, my sister in law gave out hugs to everyone, dang it, Patty went on an assault rampage.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

Your post gave me a headache half way through. You threw me off with your " crawl back to your hole" statement. You seem tense, look in a few weeks time we going to get a New President. I like new things, how about you? The problem we have is that your choice for President is not well liked by women, and there is nothing your guy can do to turn it around. l would like to help you, well not really. The voters are going to make the final decision as to who they want in the Oval Office and there is not a thing  both you can do about it. When was your last meditation class if you don't mind me asking?

Take some aspirin and crawl back into your hole.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 13, 2016

Lou Dobbs tweeted her address and phone number to his 793,000 followers, has since issued apology. Roll Eyes

This 74 year old must have dementia. She stated the 'attack' which I think was actually 'consent' lasted 15 minutes.

Was everyone on the flight blind and deaf? Where were her calls for help if it was so traumatic? 

It took her this many years to sort it out in her head that she had a problem with it? 

If there is a crime committed people report it to the police or an authority. The nutcases are coming out of the cracks

and they want their due. I hope they get it. Things catch up with people like that. I expect a confession or two in the

not too distant future. Dobbs won't be the only one that issued an apology. These are the types of dirt that make it hard

for real victims to be believed, respected and compensated mentally, emotionally and physically. Let Michele Obama 

start thinking about her own daughters before she goes and blindly believes anyone who screams grope. They need

to know these are serious allegations and the ramifications are very long lasting. They need to not fall into the trap

of labeling everything rape or inappropriate. It doesn't make a strong woman, in certain cases it makes her very

weak.

Sounds a lot like the women who accused Clinton of sexual misconduct when he first ran. Seems like what is good for the goose is NOT good for the gander this time around. Don't worry, this too shall pass.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 13, 2016

Take some aspirin and crawl back into your hole.

Aspirin or no aspirin Sully, its all over.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 13, 2016

WOW!!!  Check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=XAq8cwnh47Y&u=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DD7AsXqaFaxQ%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded

The corruption continues...

https://youtu.be/9nFX4vHFr2k

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 13, 2016

The corruption continues...

https://youtu.be/9nFX4vHFr2k

Terrible...ty grwurston!...$2.1 BILLION dollars to the Clinton Foundation in donations for Haiti and 2% actually got there.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 13, 2016

Terrible...ty grwurston!...$2.1 BILLION dollars to the Clinton Foundation in donations for Haiti and 2% actually got there.

Did you see the video in the post before last?

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

http://clintonkaine.com/

For all the Hillary supporters, here's your hero...lol.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

Your post gave me a headache half way through. You threw me off with your " crawl back to your hole" statement. You seem tense, look in a few weeks time we going to get a New President. I like new things, how about you? The problem we have is that your choice for President is not well liked by women, and there is nothing your guy can do to turn it around. l would like to help you, well not really. The voters are going to make the final decision as to who they want in the Oval Office and there is not a thing  both you can do about it. When was your last meditation class if you don't mind me asking?

I'm a woman, and I find Hillary and Bill, either or combined, to be repulsive...as does every woman I know...

CNN is nothing but globalist propaganda...enjoy your bread and circus...and let them have cake.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 14, 2016

I'm a woman, and I find Hillary and Bill, either or combined, to be repulsive...as does every woman I know...

CNN is nothing but globalist propaganda...enjoy your bread and circus...and let them have cake.

You can vote for whoever you want because that is your right. Your finding Bill & Hillary repulsive is your personal feeling and it has absolutely nothing to do with me or anyone else for that matter why? because every American should be able to make up their own minds as to who they want as their President. l do not go about telling people who they should vote for.. so l guess what l am saying is  Image result for choose wisely

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 14, 2016

I'm a woman, and I find Hillary and Bill, either or combined, to be repulsive...as does every woman I know...

CNN is nothing but globalist propaganda...enjoy your bread and circus...and let them have cake.

Great post! Bread and circus!

sully16's avatarsully16

Hillary at her hearing on her email scandal, could not remember anything.

Do we need a President who can't remember anything?

She is not fit to be a leader if she can't remember simple things.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 14, 2016

Hillary at her hearing on her email scandal, could not remember anything.

Do we need a President who can't remember anything?

She is not fit to be a leader if she can't remember simple things.

I Agree!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Hillary lies about everything.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 13, 2016

Your post gave me a headache half way through. You threw me off with your " crawl back to your hole" statement. You seem tense, look in a few weeks time we going to get a New President. I like new things, how about you? The problem we have is that your choice for President is not well liked by women, and there is nothing your guy can do to turn it around. l would like to help you, well not really. The voters are going to make the final decision as to who they want in the Oval Office and there is not a thing  both you can do about it. When was your last meditation class if you don't mind me asking?

Well, I don't feel tense. So I'm ok and ...uh...you're NOT ok.

You are a CNN lacky, infused with someone else's ideas. You don't have any original ideas that remotely sound like 

they could be your own..I've already heard them all on CNN. Wow look at you trying to take the bull by the horns 

on that stupid statement you made...the one about '"the voters are going to make a choice and there is not a thing

both you can do about it" ..it sounds like you are even under the impression that Trump doesn't stand a chance.

That's just more CNN infiltration. You are so far gone you want to ignore her dirty record as a politician which has

affected millions and millions of people around the globe. What is worse? Dirty politician who by the way is also

racist by CNN's definition or a man who called someone under contract a fat pig? Or talked about women in a way

that lots of men have already and will continue to do? His basic principles are the answer to the mess we are in right

now. Her lifetime political principles are rotten to the core and self serving. Egotism Hillary style is a disaster - special

interests, donations for favors, lying to the American public for her own gains, topped off by an invincible feeling she

is safe from prosecution. Egotism Trump style is exactly what we need - strong, determined, no special interests, not

a sorry old politician making choices for the buddies in Congress rather than the people of this nation and he is not

corrupt and will be serving US which is exactly what a President should be doing. Hillary is for Hillary and tries to make

you think otherwise, she's the biggest clown and one day all these things will catch up to her. I hope it's the shot heard

around the world and the sooner the better.

The subliminally affected mind is a very dangerous condition. It makes you not know up from down or left from right. 

They have you right where they want you, doesn't that make you feel like a schmuck? It makes you look like one.

Oh, and your suggestion I meditate? Colossal waste of time in my opinion. If you can't collect yourself without zoning

out, you are in real trouble. See? The witch has you into yoga too...

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 14, 2016

Hillary lies about everything.

I don't understand all the bashing i know they are competing but they are going for blood, and as for anything the Obama's saying on TV well they didn't do anything when they had the office so why trust anything they say now.Thud

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 13, 2016

WOW!!!  Check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=XAq8cwnh47Y&u=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DD7AsXqaFaxQ%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded

WOW! is right. Thanks Mr ANONYMOUS.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 14, 2016

Hillary at her hearing on her email scandal, could not remember anything.

Do we need a President who can't remember anything?

She is not fit to be a leader if she can't remember simple things.

  And she also took the 5th amendment..... why ??  cause it was the easy way to get out of lying and not get caught at the same time... Yes Nod

dr65's avatardr65

What happened Hillary? Drug cartels have something in it for you now? Did you cut the deal to leave borders open?

https://youtu.be/hSOYFHY373w 

Some Republican questions and Comey answers you may not have seen on the likes of CNN -

https://youtu.be/4oozS27zlts 

More emails that never saw coverage by liberal media - Catholic bashing by Clinton communications director included -

https://youtu.be/rJXfBqscSSU 

Look at this man and he is right - black leader stating truth about Democratic support by blacks - 8 years and no improvement

I agree with the statement that no politician can save the black community. We are all equals, it's time to elect someone who

agrees - Trump. 

https://youtu.be/4EdqW-92kvc 

Media bias leaked documents proving preferential treatment - 

https://youtu.be/dU_9IR1gP8A

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

I was surprised to see Mr. establishment John Boehner support Trump the other day.  He said he's going to vote for Trump because this election is about the Supreme Court appointments.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 14, 2016

I was surprised to see Mr. establishment John Boehner support Trump the other day.  He said he's going to vote for Trump because this election is about the Supreme Court appointments.

Good Morning you fine people. Have any of you folk read this? In any event l thought l would share it with you all. By the way l am voting for neither Trump or Hill. Now that we have that out of the way..

 

A group of former nuclear launch officers in the U.S. Air Force have signed an open letter saying they’re disturbed by the idea of Trump standing over what’s known as the “red button.” The letter, with 10 signatories, was first reported by The Washington Post on Thursday.

“Only the president can order a nuclear launch. That order cannot be vetoed and once the missiles have been launched, they cannot be called back,” the letter states. “The consequences of miscalculation, impulsive decision-making or poor judgment on the part of the president could be catastrophic.”

The letter concludes: “Donald Trump should not be the nation’s commander-in-chief. He should not be entrusted with the nuclear launch codes. He should not have his finger on the button.”

Throughout the campaign, Trump has shown a stunning propensity to lash out at his critics and attack anyone ? be it a fellow Republican or even a Gold Star mother ? who he believes crossed him. He’s taken to Twitter at 3 a.m. to assail a former Miss Universe whom he humiliated years ago. As the letter itself notes, Trump is “easily baited” by those who want to provoke him ? not exactly a quality you want in the leader of the world’s most powerful military.

Both Alarming & Astounding, don't you think?..

Anyone there.. hello, hello?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 13, 2016

You are the reigning king or queen of the psychos. Where is that email you were sending to the election board? You did not think that through but that is typical of your convoluted logic. It is fascinating to watch you in action. It is like a window into the world of a mentally ill person. The twisting of facts, trying to get others to gang up on others, the threats, then the pretending of  being offended on behalf of another lp member, then finally,  the changing of the subject when you are outed still again. Very ocd as well. I guess this explains why you cannot hold a job.

You're sounding more childish with every new post so maybe you are a child.

"Where is that email you were sending to the election board? "

You can't show where I said I was sending an email so it's just more childish drama. But I can show everyone where on page 159 you lied said something you can't prove about the Arlington County Election Board.

"The county was forced to announce it was a mixup and we would be getting new cards."

Why not simply tell everyone where to find that announcement on their website you said the election board were forced to make.

BTW, you're sentence structure is terrible and almost unreadable. Like typical 12-year-olds.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 14, 2016

You can vote for whoever you want because that is your right. Your finding Bill & Hillary repulsive is your personal feeling and it has absolutely nothing to do with me or anyone else for that matter why? because every American should be able to make up their own minds as to who they want as their President. l do not go about telling people who they should vote for.. so l guess what l am saying is  Image result for choose wisely

People are saying "our country is divided", but most of them are the same people who were whining for 8 years because their choice for President lost twice. And this election year the Republican Party is being divided by those whiners. Hopefully one of these days, one of them will explain why with both the House and Senate controlled by the Republicans, that party's nominee for President says he is going to "make America great again".

Or maybe Trump really meant "his fellow poorly educated" because even the personal childish insults here on LP are unprecedented. Are you getting any private message insults?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 14, 2016

I was surprised to see Mr. establishment John Boehner support Trump the other day.  He said he's going to vote for Trump because this election is about the Supreme Court appointments.

"I was surprised to see Mr. establishment John Boehner support Trump the other day."

Did you see where Trump went down 4 points in the Ohio poll right after getting that support?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Oct 14, 2016

I don't understand all the bashing i know they are competing but they are going for blood, and as for anything the Obama's saying on TV well they didn't do anything when they had the office so why trust anything they say now.Thud

Fully agree and especially with not doing anything significant while they held office. I want all people to have a better

life, not just the ones who have it already. Hillary, Obama and their brand have been misleading blacks, whites, hispanics

for all this time. Why talk about race relations? Why make it paramount to the real issues of suffering, it's a diversion

that's why. Tell me what supporting an ISSUE has done to make jobs available for people, feed people, give a better life

to people? All that supporting and pushing the topic of race has done was to flame tempers and create chaos. Democrats

can and want to control that because they can keep a race of people where they want them, confused and waiting for

something that never comes. They talk like they care but do not do things to show that they care. 

Trump has money and is filthy rich. The big, big, big difference here is he is ambitious and what he says makes sense

for all of us. When he talks about change I believe him. When he talks about making things better for us, I believe him

Democrats don't care about race. They don't care about better anymore than just making it better for themselves.

The money that Hillary has collected compared to what she has dispersed could have helped plenty of minorities right

here. She got $250,000+ per hour speech. In a months worth of speeches how many children could that have feed,

kept warm and kept hope alive for here? Lots. She's a snotty white piece of trash no more interested in race unless she

can use it against Trump or try talking the way she thinks is black..about hot sauce and what ever else..to get a vote but

she will never ever live the he*ll people are living through and she will never ever care. It's time to stand up.

Trump is the one to do it.

bigbear29

Donald Trump is running out of ways to win:

Donald Trump cast himself in almost messianic terms Thursday in Florida, describing the presidential race as "a struggle for the survival of our nation" and vowing to win the White House despite all the "slings and arrows" being hurled in his direction.

But 25 days before the election, Trump's path to the 270 electoral votes needed to capture the presidency is looking more and more impossible by the day, as states he once said he'd flip from blue to red increasingly slip out of his reach. Meanwhile, reliably red states threaten to turn purple.

Trump's odds of a win were spiraling downward days before the 2005 "Access Hollywood" recording that surfaced last week and depicted him bragging about his ability to grope women as a perk of his celebrity. Since then, his support has collapsed -- particularly among women. A new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll showed Clinton with a 9-point lead and a new national Fox poll released Thursday night that had Clinton at 45% and Trump at 38% in a four-way race.
In the most stunning development of the week, Trump and Clinton were tied at 26% in ruby-red Utah, with virtually unknown independent candidate Evan McMullin closing in on third place with 22%, according to a survey from Y2 Analytics.
"He's at a point where he's trying to draw an inside straight now by campaigning primarily in Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio and North Carolina," said veteran GOP pollster Whit Ayres. "He is well behind in Pennsylvania; he appears according to the latest polls to be effectively tied in North Carolina and Ohio; and he's behind in Florida."
bigbear29

Hillary Clinton Extends Her Battleground Map Lead:

Clinton expands her battleground-map lead

After one of the craziest weeks we can remember in the 2016 race -- the Access Hollywood audio of Trump, WikiLeaks, the nasty debate in St. Louis, the accusers against Bill Clinton, the accusers against Donald Trump, and plenty of new polls -- here's where the NBC battleground map stands. Hillary Clinton has expanded her lead and now has 287 electoral votes in her column, which is more than the 270 needed to win the White House. Trump has 157 electoral votes in his column, which is down more than 30 for him from last week. And we have 94 electoral votes in Tossup. Last week, our map was Clinton 268, Trump 190, and 80 in Tossup.

Likely Dem: CA, CT, DC, DE, HI, IL, MD, MA, NJ, NY, OR, RI, VT, WA (182 electoral votes)

Lean Dem: CO, ME (3 EVs), MI, MN, NH, NM, NC, PA, VA, WI (105)

Tossup: AZ, GA, FL, IA, ME (1EV), NE (1 EV), NV, OH, UT (94)

Lean GOP: AK, IN, KS, MO, MT, ND, SC, SD, TX (85)

Likely GOP: AL, AR, ID, KY, LA, MS, NE (4 EVs), OK, TN, WV, WY (72)

The changes

We moved North Carolina and New Hampshire from Tossup to Lean Dem (Clinton has led in every poll in those two states since the first debate). We moved Arizona, Georgia, and Utah (!!!) from Lean GOP to Tossup. And we shifted Alaska, Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota from Likely GOP to Lean GOP. As our colleague Steve Kornacki described it on "Today" this morning, Clinton "was ahead last week; now she's significantly ahead."

dr65's avatardr65

And before some smartazz comes on and says Trump is a racist, it's just smear by CNN, Hillary, Democrats

trying to convince people Trump is racist over a few comments he wasn't absolutely clear about. Shame on

Hillary for spreading the lies Trump is racist..I don't care about contract breaking Miss America who put on

pounds, she's okay today isn't she? No one reports on her background, she's a piece of crap too wanting her

15 minutes and more of fame. She was videotaped in a bedroom doing things that later broke her relationship

up. So what Trump called her Miss Piggy and Miss Housekeeping..one incident does not mean he is racist. Bring

on more instances and it still doesn't mean he's racist. Wanting to keep illegals out of our country because some

of them leave their country to escape the law IS a concern we should all have. NO way did he mean ALL Mexicans

are rapists and criminals. Who really believes that? Hillary has said things in her past that go way beyond anything

Trump has said or done, period.

Get over it people, grow up stop being led on because Hillary will do and push and take whatever she needs to get

into the White House. Whose background is more important? Trump's comments or Hillary's years and years of

corruption and misuse of the powers of the United States government?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 14, 2016

Good Morning you fine people. Have any of you folk read this? In any event l thought l would share it with you all. By the way l am voting for neither Trump or Hill. Now that we have that out of the way..

 

A group of former nuclear launch officers in the U.S. Air Force have signed an open letter saying they’re disturbed by the idea of Trump standing over what’s known as the “red button.” The letter, with 10 signatories, was first reported by The Washington Post on Thursday.

“Only the president can order a nuclear launch. That order cannot be vetoed and once the missiles have been launched, they cannot be called back,” the letter states. “The consequences of miscalculation, impulsive decision-making or poor judgment on the part of the president could be catastrophic.”

The letter concludes: “Donald Trump should not be the nation’s commander-in-chief. He should not be entrusted with the nuclear launch codes. He should not have his finger on the button.”

Throughout the campaign, Trump has shown a stunning propensity to lash out at his critics and attack anyone ? be it a fellow Republican or even a Gold Star mother ? who he believes crossed him. He’s taken to Twitter at 3 a.m. to assail a former Miss Universe whom he humiliated years ago. As the letter itself notes, Trump is “easily baited” by those who want to provoke him ? not exactly a quality you want in the leader of the world’s most powerful military.

Both Alarming & Astounding, don't you think?..

Anyone there.. hello, hello?

Any money says those former nuke officers are democrats.  BTW they said the same thing about Reagan.  And what happened?  He drove the Soviet Union out of business.  Also, the average GDP under Reagan was 7.9%, under obama its 2.9%.  I compare Trump to Reagan and Hillary to obama.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 14, 2016

Any money says those former nuke officers are democrats.  BTW they said the same thing about Reagan.  And what happened?  He drove the Soviet Union out of business.  Also, the average GDP under Reagan was 7.9%, under obama its 2.9%.  I compare Trump to Reagan and Hillary to obama.

The numbers prove exactly that LIGB.

Can you imagine America with another 500,000 million more people she wants to bring in and open borders? 

I WILL VOTE TRUMP.  He is the only one that keep America alive. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Another Trump rally today in Greensboro, NC.  Livestream, Trump should be on 2PM Eastern. 

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 14, 2016

Another Trump rally today in Greensboro, NC.  Livestream, Trump should be on 2PM Eastern. 

Excellent!  Thanx.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 14, 2016

Good Morning you fine people. Have any of you folk read this? In any event l thought l would share it with you all. By the way l am voting for neither Trump or Hill. Now that we have that out of the way..

 

A group of former nuclear launch officers in the U.S. Air Force have signed an open letter saying they’re disturbed by the idea of Trump standing over what’s known as the “red button.” The letter, with 10 signatories, was first reported by The Washington Post on Thursday.

“Only the president can order a nuclear launch. That order cannot be vetoed and once the missiles have been launched, they cannot be called back,” the letter states. “The consequences of miscalculation, impulsive decision-making or poor judgment on the part of the president could be catastrophic.”

The letter concludes: “Donald Trump should not be the nation’s commander-in-chief. He should not be entrusted with the nuclear launch codes. He should not have his finger on the button.”

Throughout the campaign, Trump has shown a stunning propensity to lash out at his critics and attack anyone ? be it a fellow Republican or even a Gold Star mother ? who he believes crossed him. He’s taken to Twitter at 3 a.m. to assail a former Miss Universe whom he humiliated years ago. As the letter itself notes, Trump is “easily baited” by those who want to provoke him ? not exactly a quality you want in the leader of the world’s most powerful military.

Both Alarming & Astounding, don't you think?..

Anyone there.. hello, hello?

Jill Stein...Trump is less dangerous than Clinton; She will start nuclear war with Russia.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/12/jill_stein_hillary_clintons_declared_syria_policy_could_start_a_nuclear_war.html

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 14, 2016

Any money says those former nuke officers are democrats.  BTW they said the same thing about Reagan.  And what happened?  He drove the Soviet Union out of business.  Also, the average GDP under Reagan was 7.9%, under obama its 2.9%.  I compare Trump to Reagan and Hillary to obama.

The big difference between Reagan & Trump is Temperament Wis.You know it all too well. Reagan was never phased by what people said about him. Both came out of the entertainment world but only one showed the quality that defines a President. As to whether these folks making these remarks about Trump having the nuclear codes are Dems is beside the point. It's either true or not that Trump is easily upset or pushes back at everything said or written about him.Sometimes it's best to let things just blow by.. but not Trump, but of course you know that too.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 14, 2016

Jill Stein...Trump is less dangerous than Clinton; She will start nuclear war with Russia.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/12/jill_stein_hillary_clintons_declared_syria_policy_could_start_a_nuclear_war.html

Says... Jill is upset that she is not going to be the first woman prez. If words of gold & reason flowed from her mouth she would be running away with this election with women alone..but no.

I enjoy the banter from time to time  with you Wis- have a great weekend. Off to  Lake Tahoe in 30 mins. Be well as always.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 14, 2016

http://clintonkaine.com/

For all the Hillary supporters, here's your hero...lol.

Thanks fr the link, Jamora. 

It's too bad that most of the commun  Hillary supporters here won't bother to read it.

Typical liberal knee jerk, if they don't like it ignore, criticize the source or call it a lie. 

People have mentioned plenty of reasons to vote for Trump, no one has really stated any solid reasons to vote for Hillary, only let their anti-Trump feelings show through. 

Yellow dog democrats they're called, they'd vote democrat even if a yellow dog was their candidate. 

  They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths

2 Timothy 4:4

Anyone who is 'offended' <GASP!> by the above line of scripture is giving themselves away.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 14, 2016

Another Trump rally today in Greensboro, NC.  Livestream, Trump should be on 2PM Eastern. 

He is the man! Ty GreenBay!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 14, 2016

He is the man! Ty GreenBay!

Yep!  I hope he stays safe, if you know what I mean.  There's a lot of power and money at stake for the DC establishment.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 14, 2016

Says... Jill is upset that she is not going to be the first woman prez. If words of gold & reason flowed from her mouth she would be running away with this election with women alone..but no.

I enjoy the banter from time to time  with you Wis- have a great weekend. Off to  Lake Tahoe in 30 mins. Be well as always.

Have a safe trip noise.  There's no way Jill Stein would even come close to winning this election.  She's a crazy eco-nut liberal.  What is she at now about 2%?  In the primary I was actually rooting for Bernie over Hillary but we all know what happened there don't we.  At lease Bernie was honest about his conviction.  Just as I believe Trump is honest about his.  Hillary is a liar who speaks out of both sides of her mouth, I'm so sick and tired of politicians like that.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 14, 2016

"I was surprised to see Mr. establishment John Boehner support Trump the other day."

Did you see where Trump went down 4 points in the Ohio poll right after getting that support?

Boehner is probably one the most despised Republicans by the conservative base but that had nothing to do with the poll.  Don't know if I believe the polls anymore.  Way too much bias by some conducting the polls... Unless Trump is leading of course.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 14, 2016

I'm a woman, and I find Hillary and Bill, either or combined, to be repulsive...as does every woman I know...

CNN is nothing but globalist propaganda...enjoy your bread and circus...and let them have cake.

Yep, but our modern day Roman empire offers up football and food stamps. 

It's sad when we have to rely on foreign news outlets to get something even close to honest reporting.  Hell, even Al Jazeera isn't as biased as most of the American MSM, ditto for Pravda.

 photo clinton-networks_zpsqpkyk9e7.jpg

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 14, 2016

Yep, but our modern day Roman empire offers up football and food stamps. 

It's sad when we have to rely on foreign news outlets to get something even close to honest reporting.  Hell, even Al Jazeera isn't as biased as most of the American MSM, ditto for Pravda.

 photo clinton-networks_zpsqpkyk9e7.jpg

Mike, I watched an interview this morning on CBS.  They were talking to Mike Pence.  Wow, it was nothing but an attack on Trump.  They wouldn't get off the video and other allegations by women about supposed things that happened years and years ago.  Pence handled it great.  He kept redirecting the conversation to Hillary's corruption and they didn't like that.  LOL

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 12, 2016

That's odd because their website doesn't have any announcements about a mix up or any mention of being "forced" to issue new cards. Should I email the board of elections and ask them why?

The Case for the Involuntary Psychiatric Commitment of Stack47 (also known as “Twister”, “Stack of Lies”, "Stack of Poo", “Stanker”, “Stack 47” and “Wilomena”.)

 

Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. If you have ever taken a negotiation class, you learn to let your opponent ramble and fill empty silences and not to respond too quickly. When you do not respond quickly, your efforts can be minimized since, to use the old adage, they have often “hung themselves” by then.

Unfortunately, we have here the situation of a pathetic individual, hereinafter referred to as “Stack of lies”, who provides no redeeming personal or social value to the human community. We humbly beseech the court of public opinion for the permanent involuntary commitment of “Stack of Lies” to a Psychiatric Hospital based on his behavior, deliriums, and increasing mental deterioration.  We believe he is a threat to the community and may harm himself and or others.

We believe a brief snapshot of his behavior in regard to just one Lottery Post posting, provides substantial justification for our request to have him permanently institutionalized.

1.) On October 11, 2016, Ms. Artist shared an early head’s up on information received via a private neighborhood Facebook group about thousands of voter card errors in her county. “Voting shannigans in Arlington County, close in to dc. We got our voter cards today and 2000 or more of us were unilaterally moved to vote in the northern part of the county vs. Voting at a school in the neighborhood.”  Since the members of LP are internet savvy, she was well aware that they could google it and find the links once the story became publicly available online.  The following hostile, contradictory responses and bizarre behavior of “Stack of lies” just in regard to this solitary straight forward posting, demonstrates why we believe he is a threat to both himself and the community.

  1. “Stack of lies” responded by posting at October 12, 2016 at 1:05 PM: “That's odd because their website doesn't have any announcements about a mix up or any mention of being "forced" to issue new cards.Should I email the board of elections and ask them why?” On October 14, 2016 at 11:27 AM,  “Stack of lies” posted: “You can't show where I said I was sending an email so it's just more childish drama.  On October 12, 2016 1:37 PM, “Stack of lies” posted:  “Simple question, who forced them and why isn't that announcement on their website? What we have here is a classic example of the extremes Trumps "poorly educated" supporters will go. First they say there was a major mix up, say the board of election was "FORCED to announce it", but when asked why the announcement isn't on the website, they attack the messenger with more lies and childish name calling. Supporters like this is why Trump loss Republican Party support, is losing more every day, and is behind by double digits.”

       2. Ms. Artist had followed up with multiple postings asking where his email to the board of elections was. The              posts were ignored for some time since he was caught in a lie and had to regroup. By this time, major                    publications such as The Washington Post had picked up the story and apologies from the board had been              issued via Twitter where the error was also acknowledged. Most individuals with any degree of social                     media experience, are aware that urgent errors of public concern meriting apologies are typically                           addressed via twitter versus a posting to their own website. Ms. Artist had been 100% accurate in her first             post on the matter.

2.) In regard to Ms. Artist’s original posting, "Stack of Lies" then bizarrely reversed his earlier claims and acknowledged it was online and asked why Ms. Artist had not posted a link. “Why not simply tell everyone where to find that announcement on their website you said the election board were forced to make.” Yet for days, earlier, he called Ms. Artist a liar in regard to her original post and how he was going to have to send an email to a third party to demonstrate she was a liar like a typical Trump supporter. He continued to deny he had ever claimed that he was going to email the elections board.

3.) When “Stack of lies” was caught in another unbelievable set of claims and reversal of the truth, he began to resort to his "CYA" strategy of rage against Ms. Artist. “BTW, you're sentence structure is terrible and almost unreadable. Like typical 12-year-olds.” In his post, you can clearly see he does not know the difference between "you're" and "your" and begins a sentence with "like." These are errors that a third grader would be embarrassed to make. In addition, Ms. Artist is fully employed in a professional capacity and has a resume filled with editorial and publishing credentials while “Stack of lies” is unemployed and does nothing but post to LP all day and night. On most days, his posts are bizarre stream of consciousness rantings that are often placed on ignore. He is truly the most despised member of the well known website Lottery Post.

In conclusion, we request that “Stack of lies” be permanently institutionalized.  This is truly a matter of life and death for both “Stack of lies” and the community.

 

The Committee "LOCK HIM UP”/AKA The Sane Community 

DC Bar License #Iwin!!!

Ms. Artist, Counsel

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 14, 2016

Yep, but our modern day Roman empire offers up football and food stamps. 

It's sad when we have to rely on foreign news outlets to get something even close to honest reporting.  Hell, even Al Jazeera isn't as biased as most of the American MSM, ditto for Pravda.

 photo clinton-networks_zpsqpkyk9e7.jpg

And the list goes on and on. Fox has a few liberals who are obviously against Trump and the one who I can't stand is Megyn Kelly. I use to watch her early on but not anymore.

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 13, 2016

Too funny

 Yet several male lp members said they received similar swimsuit shots...with no children...where she was discussing her body. They shared her emails with me. Lol She also sent one to me of her on a swing. She is a swinger. Guess you joined her 3 some. Let's be honest, she is about a 2 on a scale of 10. Have fun.

I don't know what your beef with her is and I won't get involved in your backstabbing escapade. I don't do 3-some with strangers and don't care if she is a 2. You must be real proud of yourself trashing her out on the forum as it just proves to most of us how insecure you truly are.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Oct 14, 2016

I don't know what your beef with her is and I won't get involved in your backstabbing escapade. I don't do 3-some with strangers and don't care if she is a 2. You must be real proud of yourself trashing her out on the forum as it just proves to most of us how insecure you truly are.

When you stick your nose into it and call me names, you will get it in return big lady. Cut the innocent act. You trashed me time and time again, so don't whine about being bitten back. Sounds like she is running scared. lol I guess I need to be "more secure" and email pics to strange men and ask what they think of my body. You keep prolonging this issue.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 14, 2016

When you stick your nose into it and call me names, you will get it in return big lady. Cut the innocent act. You trashed me time and time again, so don't whine about being bitten back. Sounds like she is running scared. lol I guess I need to be "more secure" and email pics to strange men and ask what they think of my body. You keep prolonging this issue.

Trump calls Clinton's criminals.

https://youtu.be/mxjLuvR0338

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 14, 2016

Trump calls Clinton's criminals.

https://youtu.be/mxjLuvR0338

Wow. Great speech.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Oct 14, 2016

And the list goes on and on. Fox has a few liberals who are obviously against Trump and the one who I can't stand is Megyn Kelly. I use to watch her early on but not anymore.

Same here skibunny, I used to like her even though she tended to lean a little to the left.  Ever since she got her own show her ego got the best of her, when she comes on I turn the channel.

bigbear29

Cut Ties to Donald Trump, Big Donors Urge R.N.C.:

Several of the Republican Party’s most generous donors called on the Republican National Committee on Thursday to disavowDonald J. Trump, saying that allegations by multiple women that Mr. Trump had groped or made inappropriate sexual advances toward them threatened to inflict lasting damage on the party’s image.

To an elite group of Republican contributors who have donated millions of dollars to the party’s candidates and committees in recent years, the cascade of revelations related to Mr. Trump’s sexual conduct is grounds for the committee to cut ties with the party’s beleaguered standard-bearer, finally and fully.

“At some point, you have to look in the mirror and recognize that you cannot possibly justify support for Trump to your children — especially your daughters,” said David Humphreys, a Missouri business executive who contributed more than $2.5 million to Republicans from the 2012 campaign cycle through this spring and opposed Mr. Trump’s bid from the outset.

Bruce Kovner, a New York investor and philanthropist who with his wife has given $2.7 million to Republicans over the same period, was just as blunt. “He is a dangerous demagogue completely unsuited to the responsibilities of a United States president,” Mr. Kovner wrote in an email, referring to Mr. Trump.

“Even for loyalists, there is a line beyond which the obvious moral failings of a candidate are impossible to disregard,” he wrote. “That line has been clearly breached.”

bigbear29

2 additional women accuse Trump of sexual assault:

Two additional women on Friday stepped forward to accuse Donald Trump of sexually assaulting them, the latest revelations to rock the GOP nominee's campaign.
One woman alleged that Trump slid his fingers under her skirt and touched her vagina through her underwear in the early 1990s. Another, a former "Apprentice" contestant, said Trump grabbed her breast and kissed her aggressively in 2007.
Kristin Anderson and Summer Zervos told their accounts separately.
Anderson, now a 46-year-old photographer living in California, told The Washington Post in an interview published Friday that she was sitting with friends at a Manhattan nightclub in the early 1990s when suddenly a man put his hand up her skirt. Moments afterwards, she said she recognized the man to be Trump. The two had not spoken or met before the incident occurred, Anderson said.
At the time, Anderson was an aspiring model.
LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 14, 2016

Cut Ties to Donald Trump, Big Donors Urge R.N.C.:

Several of the Republican Party’s most generous donors called on the Republican National Committee on Thursday to disavowDonald J. Trump, saying that allegations by multiple women that Mr. Trump had groped or made inappropriate sexual advances toward them threatened to inflict lasting damage on the party’s image.

To an elite group of Republican contributors who have donated millions of dollars to the party’s candidates and committees in recent years, the cascade of revelations related to Mr. Trump’s sexual conduct is grounds for the committee to cut ties with the party’s beleaguered standard-bearer, finally and fully.

“At some point, you have to look in the mirror and recognize that you cannot possibly justify support for Trump to your children — especially your daughters,” said David Humphreys, a Missouri business executive who contributed more than $2.5 million to Republicans from the 2012 campaign cycle through this spring and opposed Mr. Trump’s bid from the outset.

Bruce Kovner, a New York investor and philanthropist who with his wife has given $2.7 million to Republicans over the same period, was just as blunt. “He is a dangerous demagogue completely unsuited to the responsibilities of a United States president,” Mr. Kovner wrote in an email, referring to Mr. Trump.

“Even for loyalists, there is a line beyond which the obvious moral failings of a candidate are impossible to disregard,” he wrote. “That line has been clearly breached.”

Republican donors want to get rid of Trump?  LOL!  Its the other way around.  And Trump has been saying that throughout his campaign.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 14, 2016

2 additional women accuse Trump of sexual assault:

Two additional women on Friday stepped forward to accuse Donald Trump of sexually assaulting them, the latest revelations to rock the GOP nominee's campaign.
One woman alleged that Trump slid his fingers under her skirt and touched her vagina through her underwear in the early 1990s. Another, a former "Apprentice" contestant, said Trump grabbed her breast and kissed her aggressively in 2007.
Kristin Anderson and Summer Zervos told their accounts separately.
Anderson, now a 46-year-old photographer living in California, told The Washington Post in an interview published Friday that she was sitting with friends at a Manhattan nightclub in the early 1990s when suddenly a man put his hand up her skirt. Moments afterwards, she said she recognized the man to be Trump. The two had not spoken or met before the incident occurred, Anderson said.
At the time, Anderson was an aspiring model.

Oh BS bear.  If that did happen she would have called the cops the same moment.  Give us a break with these lies.  A man slid his fingers up her skirt and touched her V?  Are you stupid believing this?  Looks like the scum Hillary is taking the low road.

bigbear29

Trump needs the Republican donors!  No lol, just fact!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

No he doesn't.  Hillary does.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

I played Donald Trump in a fake racist ad for Hillary Clinton.

https://youtu.be/-yN5G-2O1T8

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 14, 2016

Fully agree and especially with not doing anything significant while they held office. I want all people to have a better

life, not just the ones who have it already. Hillary, Obama and their brand have been misleading blacks, whites, hispanics

for all this time. Why talk about race relations? Why make it paramount to the real issues of suffering, it's a diversion

that's why. Tell me what supporting an ISSUE has done to make jobs available for people, feed people, give a better life

to people? All that supporting and pushing the topic of race has done was to flame tempers and create chaos. Democrats

can and want to control that because they can keep a race of people where they want them, confused and waiting for

something that never comes. They talk like they care but do not do things to show that they care. 

Trump has money and is filthy rich. The big, big, big difference here is he is ambitious and what he says makes sense

for all of us. When he talks about change I believe him. When he talks about making things better for us, I believe him

Democrats don't care about race. They don't care about better anymore than just making it better for themselves.

The money that Hillary has collected compared to what she has dispersed could have helped plenty of minorities right

here. She got $250,000+ per hour speech. In a months worth of speeches how many children could that have feed,

kept warm and kept hope alive for here? Lots. She's a snotty white piece of trash no more interested in race unless she

can use it against Trump or try talking the way she thinks is black..about hot sauce and what ever else..to get a vote but

she will never ever live the he*ll people are living through and she will never ever care. It's time to stand up.

Trump is the one to do it.

   dr65 that 250,000 + money Hillary is getting for her speaking ... is paying those woman something to come forward and trash Trump... that's what she is doing.. she is buying these woman to do this so she gets the votes...Thumbs Down

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 14, 2016

   dr65 that 250,000 + money Hillary is getting for her speaking ... is paying those woman something to come forward and trash Trump... that's what she is doing.. she is buying these woman to do this so she gets the votes...Thumbs Down

My guess is they're doing it for a sexual harassment lawsuit against Trump.  Little do they know, Trump doesn't settle, he fights.  They lose.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 14, 2016

Same here skibunny, I used to like her even though she tended to lean a little to the left.  Ever since she got her own show her ego got the best of her, when she comes on I turn the channel.

          I Agree!   with you also lejardin...and skibunny... ever since she got her own show I don't care for her either...Thumbs Up

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 14, 2016

Oh BS bear.  If that did happen she would have called the cops the same moment.  Give us a break with these lies.  A man slid his fingers up her skirt and touched her V?  Are you stupid believing this?  Looks like the scum Hillary is taking the low road.

Follow the money.  No one fights from the gutter like the Clintons.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 14, 2016

Follow the money.  No one fights from the gutter like the Clintons.

Chilling video. This is really something to think about.

https://youtu.be/oCae9sP4_E4

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 14, 2016

Republican donors want to get rid of Trump?  LOL!  Its the other way around.  And Trump has been saying that throughout his campaign.

He's got enough of his own money. He doesn't need their money.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 14, 2016

Boehner is probably one the most despised Republicans by the conservative base but that had nothing to do with the poll.  Don't know if I believe the polls anymore.  Way too much bias by some conducting the polls... Unless Trump is leading of course.

Boehner was out when the Tea Party hijacked his party and his endorsement had nothing to do with polls. Look for the consistently accurate polls through several elections and they are probably close to accurate in this election. Another indicator is past elections though it looks like Utah might go third party this year.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 14, 2016

The Case for the Involuntary Psychiatric Commitment of Stack47 (also known as “Twister”, “Stack of Lies”, "Stack of Poo", “Stanker”, “Stack 47” and “Wilomena”.)

 

Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. If you have ever taken a negotiation class, you learn to let your opponent ramble and fill empty silences and not to respond too quickly. When you do not respond quickly, your efforts can be minimized since, to use the old adage, they have often “hung themselves” by then.

Unfortunately, we have here the situation of a pathetic individual, hereinafter referred to as “Stack of lies”, who provides no redeeming personal or social value to the human community. We humbly beseech the court of public opinion for the permanent involuntary commitment of “Stack of Lies” to a Psychiatric Hospital based on his behavior, deliriums, and increasing mental deterioration.  We believe he is a threat to the community and may harm himself and or others.

We believe a brief snapshot of his behavior in regard to just one Lottery Post posting, provides substantial justification for our request to have him permanently institutionalized.

1.) On October 11, 2016, Ms. Artist shared an early head’s up on information received via a private neighborhood Facebook group about thousands of voter card errors in her county. “Voting shannigans in Arlington County, close in to dc. We got our voter cards today and 2000 or more of us were unilaterally moved to vote in the northern part of the county vs. Voting at a school in the neighborhood.”  Since the members of LP are internet savvy, she was well aware that they could google it and find the links once the story became publicly available online.  The following hostile, contradictory responses and bizarre behavior of “Stack of lies” just in regard to this solitary straight forward posting, demonstrates why we believe he is a threat to both himself and the community.

  1. “Stack of lies” responded by posting at October 12, 2016 at 1:05 PM: “That's odd because their website doesn't have any announcements about a mix up or any mention of being "forced" to issue new cards.Should I email the board of elections and ask them why?” On October 14, 2016 at 11:27 AM,  “Stack of lies” posted: “You can't show where I said I was sending an email so it's just more childish drama.  On October 12, 2016 1:37 PM, “Stack of lies” posted:  “Simple question, who forced them and why isn't that announcement on their website? What we have here is a classic example of the extremes Trumps "poorly educated" supporters will go. First they say there was a major mix up, say the board of election was "FORCED to announce it", but when asked why the announcement isn't on the website, they attack the messenger with more lies and childish name calling. Supporters like this is why Trump loss Republican Party support, is losing more every day, and is behind by double digits.”

       2. Ms. Artist had followed up with multiple postings asking where his email to the board of elections was. The              posts were ignored for some time since he was caught in a lie and had to regroup. By this time, major                    publications such as The Washington Post had picked up the story and apologies from the board had been              issued via Twitter where the error was also acknowledged. Most individuals with any degree of social                     media experience, are aware that urgent errors of public concern meriting apologies are typically                           addressed via twitter versus a posting to their own website. Ms. Artist had been 100% accurate in her first             post on the matter.

2.) In regard to Ms. Artist’s original posting, "Stack of Lies" then bizarrely reversed his earlier claims and acknowledged it was online and asked why Ms. Artist had not posted a link. “Why not simply tell everyone where to find that announcement on their website you said the election board were forced to make.” Yet for days, earlier, he called Ms. Artist a liar in regard to her original post and how he was going to have to send an email to a third party to demonstrate she was a liar like a typical Trump supporter. He continued to deny he had ever claimed that he was going to email the elections board.

3.) When “Stack of lies” was caught in another unbelievable set of claims and reversal of the truth, he began to resort to his "CYA" strategy of rage against Ms. Artist. “BTW, you're sentence structure is terrible and almost unreadable. Like typical 12-year-olds.” In his post, you can clearly see he does not know the difference between "you're" and "your" and begins a sentence with "like." These are errors that a third grader would be embarrassed to make. In addition, Ms. Artist is fully employed in a professional capacity and has a resume filled with editorial and publishing credentials while “Stack of lies” is unemployed and does nothing but post to LP all day and night. On most days, his posts are bizarre stream of consciousness rantings that are often placed on ignore. He is truly the most despised member of the well known website Lottery Post.

In conclusion, we request that “Stack of lies” be permanently institutionalized.  This is truly a matter of life and death for both “Stack of lies” and the community.

 

The Committee "LOCK HIM UP”/AKA The Sane Community 

DC Bar License #Iwin!!!

Ms. Artist, Counsel

It's impossible to be any more childish than Artist77. I sure hope the lottery people aren't reading their posts.

And the poor child can't even distinguish between a statement and a question and this post is a great example of their terrible sentence structure. Can someone please show me an example of Artist77 actually discussing lottery related topics because all I can find is childish name calling.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 14, 2016

Boehner is probably one the most despised Republicans by the conservative base but that had nothing to do with the poll.  Don't know if I believe the polls anymore.  Way too much bias by some conducting the polls... Unless Trump is leading of course.

I do not believe the polls at all. The Clinton's future is riding on this, they need this very much.

There are too many things coming out about Hillary and I know the public doesn't like it. She's not 

gaining in the polls and certainly not leading them. We will see election day but you know what? I 

do not think with all the information floating around that people are that stupid. I saw a clip where

Bernie's supporters are not voting Clinton, they are voting Trump. Hillary and the DNC are responsible

for what happened there and lots of Bernie's group are mad. I just remember Bernie's long face while

Hillary was up there talking about how happy she was to accept the nomination...

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JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

http://nypost.com/2016/10/14/trump-camp-puts-forward-witness-to-refute-sex-assault-claim/

 

The man says he was sitting across from the accuser and contacted the Trump campaign because he was incensed by her account — which is at odds with what he witnessed.

“I have only met this accuser once and frankly cannot imagine why she is seeking to make out that Trump made sexual advances on her. Not only did he not do so (and I was present at all times) but it was she that was the one being flirtatious,” Anthony Gilberthorpe said in a note provided to The Post by the Trump campaign.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 14, 2016

http://nypost.com/2016/10/14/trump-camp-puts-forward-witness-to-refute-sex-assault-claim/

 

The man says he was sitting across from the accuser and contacted the Trump campaign because he was incensed by her account — which is at odds with what he witnessed.

“I have only met this accuser once and frankly cannot imagine why she is seeking to make out that Trump made sexual advances on her. Not only did he not do so (and I was present at all times) but it was she that was the one being flirtatious,” Anthony Gilberthorpe said in a note provided to The Post by the Trump campaign.

Thank you JAMORA.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 14, 2016

Thank you JAMORA.

You're welcome.....The Clintons are using the same tactics against Trump, that they used to suppress  and humiliate Bill's victims...it won't work this time. He WILL fight back.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 14, 2016

It's impossible to be any more childish than Artist77. I sure hope the lottery people aren't reading their posts.

And the poor child can't even distinguish between a statement and a question and this post is a great example of their terrible sentence structure. Can someone please show me an example of Artist77 actually discussing lottery related topics because all I can find is childish name calling.

You never have any takers there, do you?  Everyone else knows Todd runs LP. Seek help before you harm yourself or someone.

You are very mentally ill.

dr65's avatardr65

This again as refresher -

https://youtu.be/Tt8ugB5fB00

dr65's avatardr65

Susan Sarandon, not for Hillary anymore - 

https://youtu.be/gFNl9sWrQbs

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 14, 2016

Susan Sarandon, not for Hillary anymore - 

https://youtu.be/gFNl9sWrQbs

I saw that in the headlines the other day, nearly floored me.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 14, 2016

I saw that in the headlines the other day, nearly floored me.

Secret Service agent tells all. Hillary is crazy. Full interview.

https://youtu.be/zbJe-Yelp-I

bigbear29

And she did not say she was for trump!

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 14, 2016

And she did not say she was for trump!

 photo donkey_shinyteeth_lg_wht.gif

bigbear29

That's right, she did not state that she was going to vote for trump!

bigbear29

That is totally incorrect, trump was using his foundation money to settle his lawsuits.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

No, she didn't say that, but she DID say Hillary was more dangerous than Trump, an interventionist and wouldn't lift a finger to stop fracking. She also said Hillary would probably win, but would also most likely be indicted before she was sworn in. "Dammit Janet" is clueless about hydraulic fracturing, but I hope she's right about Hillary being indicted.

bigbear29

That is correct, but she will end up voting for Hillary.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 14, 2016

That is correct, but she will end up voting for Hillary.

After how Mrs. Clinton screwed over her beloved Bernie? I doubt it.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 14, 2016

After how Mrs. Clinton screwed over her beloved Bernie? I doubt it.

Must see!!! Hillary doesn't want you to see what she really thinks.

https://youtu.be/0agBtEEYTaY

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 14, 2016

You never have any takers there, do you?  Everyone else knows Todd runs LP. Seek help before you harm yourself or someone.

You are very mentally ill.

How about that, more childish insults.

But I'm trying to figure out how you knew "2000 or more of us were unilaterally moved to vote in the northern part of the county vs. Voting at a school in the neighborhood" if you just got your voter card earlier that day.

Posted: October 11, 2016, 8:19 pm - IP Logged  Voting shannigans in Arlington County, close in to dc. We got our voter cards today and 2000 or more of us were unilaterally moved to vote in the northern part of the county vs. Voting at a school in the neighborhood...a block from my home. This change would have required us to miss quite a bit of work and resulting in many of us not voting. Many of us are raising hell. It made no sense and was not even in a neighboring zip code. This was not an accident.

But 50 minutes later, you posted this:

Posted: October 11, 2016, 9:09 pm - IP Logged  Been comparing notes with my neighbors. People on the same block were sent to various inconvenient locations and the written instructions had yet a different version. I have lived here many years and never seen anything like this. There has never been any error before. The county was forced to announce it was a mixup and we would be getting new cards.

At 8:19 you said "This was not an accident" but at 9:09 you changed it to "The county wasforced to announce it was a mixup and we would be getting new cards." There was no announce on their website on October 11 or October 12. Forget the fact it's impossible for you to know if "2000 or more" voters had their voting places changed, do you really expect intelligent people to believe the Arlington County Election Board was forced to make an announcement some time between 8:19 PM and 9:09 PM especially when the office closes at 5 PM?

"Someone in my neighborhood , who is on the board called"

LOL ROFL @ "Someone in my neighborhood" calling "2000 or more" voters in less than an hour.

First you called it "Voting shannigans " and then said you "lived here many years and never seen anything like this. There has never been any error before." Which is it?

What your childish mind doesn't understand, you accused the Arlington County, VA. Election Board of voter fraud hoping to empress people on a message board forum. But that's should be expected after all the nasty stuff you said about Drenick1.

"Everyone else knows Todd runs LP."

Yep, I sent him the money last time I renewed my Premium membership; what's your point?

bigbear29

Likely women voters:

 

Hillary  52%

 

Trump  39%

 

Trump is done!  Game over!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 14, 2016

Likely women voters:

 

Hillary  52%

 

Trump  39%

 

Trump is done!  Game over!

But there is over three weeks until the election and plenty of time for the Trump supporters to tell more lies about Clinton and deny that Trump is a fraud.

bigbear29

I think it is over now.  Game over for trump.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

The Hillary movie. Watch this before you vote.

https://youtu.be/NvsaAb3tweY

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

I think it is over now.  Game over for trump.

Broken record....

Are you shilling Hillary for gambling $$$$?

Dang....Green laughHiding Behind Computer

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

I wouldn't believe the polls in this election.  The rally turnout is a better indicator.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

I see Stank Stack is still raging. He is having a breakdown. He seems to not know how the internet,  private facebook groups, phones, or basic politics works. Yes, city reps do post to closed private neighborhood fb groups. He is so angry about my early notice to members about a story before it hit the news. Yes, things work differently in the big city.  The way he resents lp people who work for a living (or those who have retired by now) speaks volumes. The amount of free time this guy has on his hands unbelievable.

sully16's avatarsully16

After going through the last 5 or so pages, I decided to do a LP poll.

Big Bear and Stack, 2 males for hillary.

Sully, dr65, Artist, Lejardin, Dee88, Jamora, 6 females for Trump

LivinginGreenBay, Grwurston, MikeinTexas, Rcbbuckeye 4 males for Trump

Trump  10

Hillary 2

Hmmmmmm.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 15, 2016

After going through the last 5 or so pages, I decided to do a LP poll.

Big Bear and Stack, 2 males for hillary.

Sully, dr65, Artist, Lejardin, Dee88, Jamora, 6 females for Trump

LivinginGreenBay, Grwurston, MikeinTexas, Rcbbuckeye 4 males for Trump

Trump  10

Hillary 2

Hmmmmmm.

Great poll Miss Sully.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 15, 2016

I wouldn't believe the polls in this election.  The rally turnout is a better indicator.

21 thousand people at the rally in Cincinnati Ohio 10/13! US Flag

Has Hillary ever had a prayer before speaking at any rally?

If choice is an issue, I'm sure Trump supporters respect the choice TO pray.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 15, 2016

Great poll Miss Sully.

thanks Miss Artist, I think the wikileaks are going to get better.

dr65's avatardr65

CNN jumped on the supporter at a rally in NC that shoved a protester along towards the exit.

They're suggesting Trump rallies are grounds for violence. The supporter pushed him along and 

the protester broke free and the guy put him in a headlock..the POS protester was holding the

flag upside down...I guess he was actually looking for the CLINTON rally but ok. PERFECT example

here of what CNN and HILLARY do...one incident and all of a sudden ALL TRUMP RALLIES are VIOLENT.

One housekeeping remark and Trump is suddenly against ALL Latinos...Fat pig remark and he's

against ALL women...wants to stop terrorists and illegal immigration, he is then said to be 

against ALL immigrants.

Hillary can call us deplorables, CNN fluffs it off. She can call the women who were involved with Billbo

names and it's fluffed off, she can lie under oath and fluffed off because...she forgot or didn't know or

would have to get back to someone on it..?? Dirty, just dirty.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 15, 2016

thanks Miss Artist, I think the wikileaks are going to get better.

I know!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 15, 2016

CNN jumped on the supporter at a rally in NC that shoved a protester along towards the exit.

They're suggesting Trump rallies are grounds for violence. The supporter pushed him along and 

the protester broke free and the guy put him in a headlock..the POS protester was holding the

flag upside down...I guess he was actually looking for the CLINTON rally but ok. PERFECT example

here of what CNN and HILLARY do...one incident and all of a sudden ALL TRUMP RALLIES are VIOLENT.

One housekeeping remark and Trump is suddenly against ALL Latinos...Fat pig remark and he's

against ALL women...wants to stop terrorists and illegal immigration, he is then said to be 

against ALL immigrants.

Hillary can call us deplorables, CNN fluffs it off. She can call the women who were involved with Billbo

names and it's fluffed off, she can lie under oath and fluffed off because...she forgot or didn't know or

would have to get back to someone on it..?? Dirty, just dirty.

I saw that rally.  It happened quick and there were lots of people but it sure looked to me like the protester took a swing at someone.

bigbear29

Trump has turned the GOP into the racist ALT-RIGHT:

With all things Trump, the Republican Party sowed the seeds for his coming. Whether it was buying into conspiracy theories about climate change, eroding trust in government for fun and profit, or turning Benghazi and emails into industries, Republicans laid out a table ready for someone who was ready to take the next step. Most of all, they pulled out a chair for someone who was willing to take advantage of all they had done to create the idea that minorities—both racial and religious—were somehow eroding Americas status as a very special snowflake.

All Donald Trump did was sit down … and invite a few friends.

"I urge all readers of this site to do whatever they can to make Donald Trump President," wrote Andrew Anglin, publisher of the neo-Nazi site Daily Stormer, 12 days later. Anglin, a 32-year-old skinhead who wears an Aryan "Black Sun" tattoo on his chest and riffs about the inferior "biological nature" of black people, hailed Trump as "the only candidate who is even talking about anything at all that matters."

Anglin took an early seat at the table, but the rest of the alt-right wasn’t far behind. Leaders of anti-immigrant sites, white nationalist sites, sites dedicated to religious bigotry, they all heard Trump’s call.

Trump "may be the last hope for a president who would be good for white people," remarked Jared Taylor, who runs a white nationalist website called American Renaissance and once founded a think tank dedicated to "scientifically" proving white superiority. Taylor told us that Trump was the first presidential candidate from a major party ever to earn his support because Trump "is talking about policies that would slow the dispossession of whites. That is something that is very important to me and to all racially conscious white people."

There is no longer a fringe on the right. There’s just … the right. Republicans have gotten away previously with passively accepting the support of the most extreme, but that’s not going to cut it from now on. David Duke is no longer an outsider. He’s their core.

Trump fever quickly spread: Other extremists new to presidential politics openly endorsed Trump, including Don Black, a former grand dragon of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and founder of the neo-Nazi site Stormfront; Rocky Suhayda, chair of the American Nazi Party; and Rachel Pendergraft, a national organizer for the Knights Party, the successor to David Duke's Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. Richard Spencer, an emerging leader among a new generation of white nationalists known as the "alt right," declared that Trump "loves white people." 

The excitement on the alt-right is still rising as every speech he delivers proves that Trump is one of them, especially after his Thursday speech.

Racist Radio Host David Duke Praises Trump's "Incredible Speech," Rails Against "Jewish Supremacists" And "Jewish Radicals" Who Are Waging A “Vicious Attack Against Trump.” Duke, a former leader of the Klu Klux Klan and current Republican Louisiana Senate candidate, used his radio show to call Trump’s speech “maybe the strongest, most all out speech concerning the war that is being waged against us and the war that is being waged by the oligarchs who control the international banks and the globalists” before claiming “Jewish supremacists” are using their control of the media and other institutions to attack Trump:

Trump picked up every thread that Republicans had already been using, and used them to drag the alt-right to the center of the Republican Party. Now the most extreme among that group are anticipating their time in the sun.

sully16's avatarsully16

I am going to make one last plea, I don't care about Trump's potty mouth, I don't care who Bill Clinton slept with.

all this wikileaks and helpless women crap is a diversion.

Pay close attention to what I got to say.

Right now there are protesters over that pipeline going through Sioux Territory. For some reason this wasn't much of a problem until the last year, Activist were sent in, Now it is the most sacred ground ever seen, I get it, being Chippewa I get it, you don't disturb the dead.Let them go around.

What has me baffled, is they are now making pleas to the UN. WTF. Where did they get the idea to do that?

Someone told them to do that, that's why! Some sneaky PILE OF SH*T is helping the UN and unknown persons ARE HELPING TO backdoor us. And there's some coffee Chief sitting there with a big fat bank account.

That's what we call other Indians who sell us out. Coffee Chief!

The UN WANTS MORE CONTROL OVER US, ALL OF US.

THEY HAVE TROOPS, THINK REAL HARD ON WHAT IT COULD MEAN FOR ALL OF US, IF THESE TROOPS LAND ON OUR SOIL.

We have a Constitution for a reason, The UN would love to rip it up and have us live under their rules.

For the Love of God, Hillary will help them, Obama will most likely  have some sort of job, or position with the UN.

THE PEOPLE BEHIND ALL OF THIS ARE SO WELL PROTECTED, WE WILL NEVER KNOW THEIR NAMES.

We have to stop Hillary's attempt at open borders, we cannot let the UN GET A BIGGER FOOTHOLD.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

I think it is over now.  Game over for trump.

   It's not over till the fat lady sings.....lol

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 15, 2016

I am going to make one last plea, I don't care about Trump's potty mouth, I don't care who Bill Clinton slept with.

all this wikileaks and helpless women crap is a diversion.

Pay close attention to what I got to say.

Right now there are protesters over that pipeline going through Sioux Territory. For some reason this wasn't much of a problem until the last year, Activist were sent in, Now it is the most sacred ground ever seen, I get it, being Chippewa I get it, you don't disturb the dead.Let them go around.

What has me baffled, is they are now making pleas to the UN. WTF. Where did they get the idea to do that?

Someone told them to do that, that's why! Some sneaky PILE OF SH*T is helping the UN and unknown persons ARE HELPING TO backdoor us. And there's some coffee Chief sitting there with a big fat bank account.

That's what we call other Indians who sell us out. Coffee Chief!

The UN WANTS MORE CONTROL OVER US, ALL OF US.

THEY HAVE TROOPS, THINK REAL HARD ON WHAT IT COULD MEAN FOR ALL OF US, IF THESE TROOPS LAND ON OUR SOIL.

We have a Constitution for a reason, The UN would love to rip it up and have us live under their rules.

For the Love of God, Hillary will help them, Obama will most likely  have some sort of job, or position with the UN.

THE PEOPLE BEHIND ALL OF THIS ARE SO WELL PROTECTED, WE WILL NEVER KNOW THEIR NAMES.

We have to stop Hillary's attempt at open borders, we cannot let the UN GET A BIGGER FOOTHOLD.

Sully, ever read the "Left Behind " series of books? Not the terrible movie...lol. Those guys hit the nail on the head. Those who knew the " truth" could see a symbol on the foreheads of those who knew the truth. We see Clinton for what she is. Red dawn is happening.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 15, 2016

Sully, ever read the "Left Behind " series of books? Not the terrible movie...lol. Those guys hit the nail on the head. Those who knew the " truth" could see a symbol on the foreheads of those who knew the truth. We see Clinton for what she is. Red dawn is happening.

   Artist.. that left behind book series was AWESOME!!  I even read them again sometimes... the movie was ok but the books told it like it really is... I would tell everyone if you can get a hold of those books you would be shocked at what you read... and they tell it like it is in real life...and it really makes you think about the way the direction this world is going... I give them a Thumbs Up  up...

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 15, 2016

   Artist.. that left behind book series was AWESOME!!  I even read them again sometimes... the movie was ok but the books told it like it really is... I would tell everyone if you can get a hold of those books you would be shocked at what you read... and they tell it like it is in real life...and it really makes you think about the way the direction this world is going... I give them a Thumbs Up  up...

Dee, I agree. You cannot put the books down once you start. The movie was a disappointment . If I had not read the books, I would have had no clue about what was going on in the movie. Greatest opening in a book with people having disappeared off a plane in flight.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 15, 2016

Dee, I agree. You cannot put the books down once you start. The movie was a disappointment . If I had not read the books, I would have had no clue about what was going on in the movie. Greatest opening in a book with people having disappeared off a plane in flight.

  Yep... that is true it was very hard for me to put the book down... you just had to keep reading to find out what was going to happen next... and what about the people in their cars... and when people came home and there was nobody there that was something else...

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 15, 2016

  Yep... that is true it was very hard for me to put the book down... you just had to keep reading to find out what was going to happen next... and what about the people in their cars... and when people came home and there was nobody there that was something else...

And most or all the children below a certain age disappeared.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Sully16,

7 males for Trump!

Sad Wavey

To all;

As this thread adds new pages day by day I've been playing the most recent last page number in the Pick 3 sine it's hit 3 digits and haven't won a thing!

Bang Head

Green laugh

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Is this the move "Left Behind" your talking about?  Found it on youtube.  Nothing better to do today so I guess I'll watch it.

dr65's avatardr65

How many is a coincidence? 

People die everyday.

But 114 associated with the Clinton's are just too many.

https://youtu.be/UoE73WNoCXo 

Food poisoning, death by overdose of mouthwash, shot in the back of the head, suicide by 2 different guns shot in the

chest...and it goes on. And on. John F. Kennedy Jr...ready to announce run for Senator of NY...after he died, Hillary 

became senator.

IF YOU HIRE SOMEONE TO MURDER SOMEONE YOU ARE GUILTY.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 14, 2016

I saw that in the headlines the other day, nearly floored me.

I don't like Susan Sarandon, I think she's a little strange. But she was close to Hillary and the fact that she

is not agreeing with her today was interesting to me.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 15, 2016

Is this the move "Left Behind" your talking about?  Found it on youtube.  Nothing better to do today so I guess I'll watch it.

Yes but the point the movie stars with is after a lot has happened. Read the first book.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 15, 2016

Is this the move "Left Behind" your talking about?  Found it on youtube.  Nothing better to do today so I guess I'll watch it.

   Yes that's one of them but there is another one called Tribulation Force II but they are mini movies of the book series.. and like Artist said read the first book and if you can read all of them cause the movie doesn't really do justice like the books do..but the movie gives you an idea of what is to come but doesn't go into detail like the books do.. you can also go online to the web site called "Left Behind" and they will give you more information about it...

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 15, 2016

How many is a coincidence? 

People die everyday.

But 114 associated with the Clinton's are just too many.

https://youtu.be/UoE73WNoCXo 

Food poisoning, death by overdose of mouthwash, shot in the back of the head, suicide by 2 different guns shot in the

chest...and it goes on. And on. John F. Kennedy Jr...ready to announce run for Senator of NY...after he died, Hillary 

became senator.

IF YOU HIRE SOMEONE TO MURDER SOMEONE YOU ARE GUILTY.

   OMG!!  dr65... it sound like the Clinton's are mafia's that is just terrible all these people killed... this needs to make National News on TV... and I mean NOW!!!!  I have seen a documentary on John F Kennedy and they say that Cuba was behind his assassination cause he wouldn't argee to things Cuba wanted him to do so they killed him... Both Kennedy's stood up to them and for that they were killed..

bigbear29

Wow!  This is just stupidity!

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

Wow!  This is just stupidity!

Well this isnt stupidity.

Just this morning I saw Hitlery say she was not going to respond to Trumps attack of her, she is not going to defend herself, she is going to defend THE PEOPLE Trump name called.  Now does anyone else besides poopbear see a problem here?

I seem to recall Hitlery calling Trump supporters "deplorables" of which I am one.   There were more name callings that came out thru Wikileaking, when she didnt think exposure to the general public was possible.  Needy Latinos, et al.   

This woman is the biggest liar I have ever see, will do ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING to get elected.  How she could stand there and say crapp like this knowing full well how she feels about Americans (her campaign people acknowledging she is hating REGULAR AMERICANS) regardless of their race is beyond common sense.  SHE TRULY BELIEVES SHE IS BETTER THAN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US. 

Puke 

bigbear29

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, REALLY!  YADA YADA YADA YADA YADA YADA YADA YADA.  Trump is now running scared, yes running scared.  Three weeks to go and trump is not talking about the issues, just blah blah blah talking about his personal issues.   Trump is an idiot!

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 15, 2016

I am going to make one last plea, I don't care about Trump's potty mouth, I don't care who Bill Clinton slept with.

all this wikileaks and helpless women crap is a diversion.

Pay close attention to what I got to say.

Right now there are protesters over that pipeline going through Sioux Territory. For some reason this wasn't much of a problem until the last year, Activist were sent in, Now it is the most sacred ground ever seen, I get it, being Chippewa I get it, you don't disturb the dead.Let them go around.

What has me baffled, is they are now making pleas to the UN. WTF. Where did they get the idea to do that?

Someone told them to do that, that's why! Some sneaky PILE OF SH*T is helping the UN and unknown persons ARE HELPING TO backdoor us. And there's some coffee Chief sitting there with a big fat bank account.

That's what we call other Indians who sell us out. Coffee Chief!

The UN WANTS MORE CONTROL OVER US, ALL OF US.

THEY HAVE TROOPS, THINK REAL HARD ON WHAT IT COULD MEAN FOR ALL OF US, IF THESE TROOPS LAND ON OUR SOIL.

We have a Constitution for a reason, The UN would love to rip it up and have us live under their rules.

For the Love of God, Hillary will help them, Obama will most likely  have some sort of job, or position with the UN.

THE PEOPLE BEHIND ALL OF THIS ARE SO WELL PROTECTED, WE WILL NEVER KNOW THEIR NAMES.

We have to stop Hillary's attempt at open borders, we cannot let the UN GET A BIGGER FOOTHOLD.

IMO the UN is useless currently but given Obama's propensity to turn everything over to the UN something is up.  I am not sure why he has not succeeded in doing so but work is probably being done in darkness or behind the scenes at this moment.  Not by him, he is coward unless it benefits HIM or his legacy.  Who knows what we will find out after he is out of office, IF HE LEAVES.  He has proven to be untrustworthy just as Hitlery has.  I have no idea who is behind the work with the UN but I agree with you someone is getting paid to backdoor us, it seems to be the only way to get anything done.  It stinks to high heaven and I smell a George Soros, that is ONE EVIL MAN.

IMO, all burial sites are sacred and should be respected.  Hawaiians are VERY respectful of their heiaus and if construction sites finds a burial site, all work is stopped immediately and workers will leave, they wil not step foot on sacred land.  They believe in the spirits, I assume the same as native americans.

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Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 15, 2016

IMO the UN is useless currently but given Obama's propensity to turn everything over to the UN something is up.  I am not sure why he has not succeeded in doing so but work is probably being done in darkness or behind the scenes at this moment.  Not by him, he is coward unless it benefits HIM or his legacy.  Who knows what we will find out after he is out of office, IF HE LEAVES.  He has proven to be untrustworthy just as Hitlery has.  I have no idea who is behind the work with the UN but I agree with you someone is getting paid to backdoor us, it seems to be the only way to get anything done.  It stinks to high heaven and I smell a George Soros, that is ONE EVIL MAN.

IMO, all burial sites are sacred and should be respected.  Hawaiians are VERY respectful of their heiaus and if construction sites finds a burial site, all work is stopped immediately and workers will leave, they wil not step foot on sacred land.  They believe in the spirits, I assume the same as native americans.

I was floored when I read the Sioux went to the UN for help, did some more research, I don't think they realized they are being used and manipulated, they want to come out the victors in this land grab, the UN is not the way.

Open Borders, Disarm us, bring in the UN. Tax the middle class into submission, control our health.

Then I believe culling the population will be next.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, REALLY!  YADA YADA YADA YADA YADA YADA YADA YADA.  Trump is now running scared, yes running scared.  Three weeks to go and trump is not talking about the issues, just blah blah blah talking about his personal issues.   Trump is an idiot!

Conehead  Excellent post! You have a great grasp of the English language.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 15, 2016

Sully16,

7 males for Trump!

Sad Wavey

To all;

As this thread adds new pages day by day I've been playing the most recent last page number in the Pick 3 sine it's hit 3 digits and haven't won a thing!

Bang Head

Green laugh

I forgot about nose gate

so

13 Trump

3   Hilldabeast.

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Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 15, 2016

Sully, ever read the "Left Behind " series of books? Not the terrible movie...lol. Those guys hit the nail on the head. Those who knew the " truth" could see a symbol on the foreheads of those who knew the truth. We see Clinton for what she is. Red dawn is happening.

No I haven't, but I will. Was not one to believe the New World Order stuff, but now I have more questions then answers.

bigbear29

Thank you!

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Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, REALLY!  YADA YADA YADA YADA YADA YADA YADA YADA.  Trump is now running scared, yes running scared.  Three weeks to go and trump is not talking about the issues, just blah blah blah talking about his personal issues.   Trump is an idiot!

If Trump loses, he will go back to being a billionaire citizen, lots of play time.

But, and this is a big but, we will all be screwed and that includes you

Now speaking of yada yada yada, you have not told us why you like Hillary, how does it help you?

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 15, 2016

I was floored when I read the Sioux went to the UN for help, did some more research, I don't think they realized they are being used and manipulated, they want to come out the victors in this land grab, the UN is not the way.

Open Borders, Disarm us, bring in the UN. Tax the middle class into submission, control our health.

Then I believe culling the population will be next.

The culling will begin with Catholics and the evangelicals.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Looks like bear can't answer your question sully.  All he'll do is come back with more copy and paste.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/2016/01/mind-full-of-fluff-pooh-funny.jpg

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 15, 2016

Looks like bear can't answer your question sully.  All he'll do is come back with more copy and paste.

The question was asked just ten minutes ago, Don't be so impatient.

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What  is this..Hillary bot or does she send that to the debates and rallies? 

Really, what is this thing...

https://youtu.be/4jBxeZP6M8E 

Are you kidding me too about 'built up his wealth' comment..did she forget  how she built up hers?

LOL - Dean

LOL - Bernie

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 15, 2016

The question was asked just ten minutes ago, Don't be so impatient.

Hey Stack, who's this?

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/02266022e57b34ee6371e24410e12b201e9b1da28e7a0a3e710908901f597648.jpg

bigbear29

I'm a Bernie person, but between Hillary and trump, I pick Hillary.  Trump is not smart enough to run the USA.  Trump is a racist, so he's not about bringing races together.  Trump is not going to get white educated women votes.  He's not going to get the Black, Hispanic or the Asian votes.  If trump gets into office, we will be in another war.  Trump is not going to bring JOBS back, it is all talk.  And the biggest thing is trump kept the birther movement going for 5 years on our first black President.  Trump is an IDIOT!  Hillary is a lot better than trump.  Trump is not going to do one thing for me.  Trump could have release the IRS letter that states that his taxes are in audit, but he did not, trump is Lying about his taxes.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trump rally in Bangor, ME.  Livestream...

bigbear29

Two more items, the Democrats and Republicans hate trump, so nothing is going to get done in Washington.  Also, will trump be flip-flopping on issues from lack of knowledge.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

I'm a Bernie person, but between Hillary and trump, I pick Hillary.  Trump is not smart enough to run the USA.  Trump is a racist, so he's not about bringing races together.  Trump is not going to get white educated women votes.  He's not going to get the Black, Hispanic or the Asian votes.  If trump gets into office, we will be in another war.  Trump is not going to bring JOBS back, it is all talk.  And the biggest thing is trump kept the birther movement going for 5 years on our first black President.  Trump is an IDIOT!  Hillary is a lot better than trump.  Trump is not going to do one thing for me.  Trump could have release the IRS letter that states that his taxes are in audit, but he did not, trump is Lying about his taxes.

OMG bear... Seriously?  You're beyond reasoning with.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

I'm a Bernie person, but between Hillary and trump, I pick Hillary.  Trump is not smart enough to run the USA.  Trump is a racist, so he's not about bringing races together.  Trump is not going to get white educated women votes.  He's not going to get the Black, Hispanic or the Asian votes.  If trump gets into office, we will be in another war.  Trump is not going to bring JOBS back, it is all talk.  And the biggest thing is trump kept the birther movement going for 5 years on our first black President.  Trump is an IDIOT!  Hillary is a lot better than trump.  Trump is not going to do one thing for me.  Trump could have release the IRS letter that states that his taxes are in audit, but he did not, trump is Lying about his taxes.

I'm a Bernie person, but between Hillary and trump, I pick Hillary.

Even after the way she and the DNC screwed over your guy?  There are a LOT of angry Bernie folks who won't vote for Hillary.  Granted, most won't vote for Trump, but instead will go w/ Johnson or Stein and siphon votes away from Hillary.  Good for them, at least they're not partisan hacks like you.

Trump is not smart enough to run the USA.

Do you have access to a copy of his IQ test?  People said Bush wasn't smart, but his IQ was about the same if not higher than Al Gore's.

If Trump isn't smart enough to run the country, then Hillary isn't either. 

While we're at it, I'd make the claim you're really not smart enough to be discussing politics.  I haven't seen ONE informed or well-thought out opinion from you, not a single one!  It's all been "Trump is a racist/sexist/idiot..." and nothing but C&P jobs from leftist websites to "prove" your accusations.  You're the Forrest Gump of political debate.

Trump is a racist, so he's not about bringing races together.

By that measure, so is Obama and so is Clinton.  In fact, you could level that charge towards the entire Democrat party, same generalization as they make about Republicans.

Trump is not going to get white educated women votes. He's not going to get the Black, Hispanic or the Asian votes.

That's news?  "This just in:  water is wet, the Earth is round and the sun will rise in the East tomorrow morning.  Film at 11:00."  I think you'll be surprised.  He might get more of those particular demographics than you think, esp. after the recent revelations in the released WikiLeaks about how Hillary regards Catholics, Latinos, etc.

If trump gets into office, we will be in another war.

Got news for ya buddy...we're in a perpetual war, always have been and always will be.  If you think Hillary will be any different, then you're delusional.  If you're worried about Trump and having control over the nukes, then you should be even more worried about Hillary's hot flash flashbacks and her own health, both mental and physical.  She'll start a war just to prove her testicles are just as big as any man's.

Trump is not going to bring JOBS back, it is all talk.

Uh, that's what pols do, they talk.  Hillary talks, Johnson talks, Bernie talks, Obama talks and between them all is the same substance as hot air.  I don't like Trump, but on this issue I would give him the edge in that at least he has actually HIRED thousands of people.  (Fired them too, from what I heard,  but I never watched that show.  Considering our huge, bloated bureaucracy, I'd LOVE to see him fire a bunch of govt. employees )

And the biggest thing is trump kept the birther movement going for 5 years on our first black President.

I don't think so.  He was only one of many who wondered why there was so much secrecy around Obama's past.  Obama could have nipped it in the bud, but instead chose to let it keep going and to ridicule and marginalize anyone who had questions.   You're also conveniently forgetting that the birther movement originated in the Hillary camp and Mrs. Clinton definitely knew about it and approved.

Trump is an IDIOT!

He's more intelligent than you, so what would that make you?  Never mind, we all know just by your witty repartee and snappy comebacks like that one.

Hillary is a lot better than trump. 

Yep, she's at least better at grabbing women's crotches from what I've read.

Trump is not going to do one thing for me.

Earlier in the thread, noisegate said people should vote for their own self-interests.  That's the same kind of attitude you are exhibiting and it's un-American and greedy.  Why would a good American put his/her interests above those of his/her country?  Have you never heard this snippet from the iconic JFK speech at his inauguration?

"My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

I'm going to leave out your ubiquitous rant about Trump's taxes.  We know, you're upset about it.  Lord knows, we all know.  Find another dead horse to beat, for cryin' out loud.

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Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

I'm a Bernie person, but between Hillary and trump, I pick Hillary.  Trump is not smart enough to run the USA.  Trump is a racist, so he's not about bringing races together.  Trump is not going to get white educated women votes.  He's not going to get the Black, Hispanic or the Asian votes.  If trump gets into office, we will be in another war.  Trump is not going to bring JOBS back, it is all talk.  And the biggest thing is trump kept the birther movement going for 5 years on our first black President.  Trump is an IDIOT!  Hillary is a lot better than trump.  Trump is not going to do one thing for me.  Trump could have release the IRS letter that states that his taxes are in audit, but he did not, trump is Lying about his taxes.

Trump is an idiot and Hillary is a lot better, really, that's your answer. SMFH

Hard to believe you were the fastest swimmer.

bigbear29

My vote will not change, matter of fact I will be mailing in my ballot in next Thursday.  HILLARY ALL THE WAY!

I would like to say that trump is for our military but wait,  trump does not pay federal taxes!  DANG!

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Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

My vote will not change, matter of fact I will be mailing in my ballot in next Thursday.  HILLARY ALL THE WAY!

I would like to say that trump is for our military but wait,  trump does not pay federal taxes!  DANG!

Proud to help her destroy the country . wow.

bigbear29

Trump is running for the Republican party and the Washington Republicans will not even go out to help trump win the election.  WOW!

bigbear29

So if trump wins the election, voting was good.  But if trump loses the election it's rigged.  What a total CHILD!

 

Now trump is talking about drug testing should be given.  Trump is giving up on the election because he knows that he's losing.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

So if trump wins the election, voting was good.  But if trump loses the election it's rigged.  What a total CHILD!

 

Now trump is talking about drug testing should be given.  Trump is giving up on the election because he knows that he's losing.

I guess it depends on how many dead people vote democrat this election.

bigbear29

But if all the so called dead people vote for trump, it's ok.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

We don't play that game.  Democrat voter fraud is well documented.  And has been for a long time.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 15, 2016

I guess it depends on how many dead people vote democrat this election.

Well, she is popular with the zombies...lol.  Maybe that's why the SS said she smells so bad...it's the stench of corruption!

bigbear29

Suburban women:

 

Hillary   59%

 

Trump.   34%

 

DANG!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

What would Hilter say about Hillary?

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

I LOVE those things, GB!  I started to post one the other day, but decided bigbore would claim that's proof the Republicans are Nazis.

That was a great movie, though.  Forget the name of it, but one of the few w/ subtitles I ever liked.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 15, 2016

I LOVE those things, GB!  I started to post one the other day, but decided bigbore would claim that's proof the Republicans are Nazis.

That was a great movie, though.  Forget the name of it, but one of the few w/ subtitles I ever liked.

Don't know if that was from a movie.  Saw it on youtube and thought it would be funny.  BTW, did you watch the 2nd debate?  When Hillary was asked about appointing Supreme Court Justices?  She didn't mention the Constitution once.  I couldn't believe it, even from her.  She's dangerous in so many ways.

bigbear29

Are we getting mad mikey,  go ahead and fix your big yellow hat mr. Cowboy.  It's going to get worse for trump.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

Are we getting mad mikey,  go ahead and fix your big yellow hat mr. Cowboy.  It's going to get worse for trump.

Bernie was against the big Wall Street bankers and Hillary's taking hundreds of millions of dollars  from them.  How does that make you feel?

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

Are we getting mad mikey,  go ahead and fix your big yellow hat mr. Cowboy.  It's going to get worse for trump.

No substantive rebuttal to my own?  Whodathunkit?

I don't have a yellow hat, but if I did, it would be better than the yellow stripe running down your back.

BTW, I'm an old roughneck, not a cowboy, but I do love the Dallas Cowboys. 

"Mikey likes it.  Mikey will eat ANYTHING."

So will Hillary, from what I've read.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 15, 2016

Bernie was against the big Wall Street bankers and Hillary's taking hundreds of millions of dollars  from them.  How does that make you feel?

He doesn't care;  he's a partisan hack, one of those yellow dog Dems.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 15, 2016

Don't know if that was from a movie.  Saw it on youtube and thought it would be funny.  BTW, did you watch the 2nd debate?  When Hillary was asked about appointing Supreme Court Justices?  She didn't mention the Constitution once.  I couldn't believe it, even from her.  She's dangerous in so many ways.

No, I didn't watch the debate, but did watch a recap of it the next day.

The clips are taken from the German movie Downfall.

bigbear29

What, old internet roughneck or redneck!

bigbear29

You are still getting mad!  Just face it, trump is losing bigtime.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

What, old internet roughneck or redneck!

Forrest, are you retarded or just plain stupid?

Stupid is as stupid does...and you does, constantly.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

You are still getting mad!  Just face it, trump is losing bigtime.

Not mad, but angry...angry that you leftists are so hypocritical. 

As was said earlier in the thread, it ain't over until the fat lady Hillary sings.

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Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 15, 2016

Not mad, but angry...angry that you leftists are so hypocritical. 

As was said earlier in the thread, it ain't over until the fat lady Hillary sings.

What scars me more then Hillary, Tim Kaine is a blood clot away from the Presidency.

bigbear29

Open your eyes, it's over for trump.

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You know what would be great, Hillary gets elected then Obama has her indicted in early January, and Paul Ryan becomes President until new elections , Obama would not be allowed to stay, if the President elect cannot fulfill his/her duties, it goes to Speaker of the House, could be why he's fighting for his job.

dr65's avatardr65

Black student asking question...This video is real Hillary..this is what's really behind the smiling mask she tries to

wear when she's in a public she thinks matters..

https://youtu.be/n5NEmX4JGQg

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Trump Raises $100M in September

Well, 98 million;  he chipped in 2 million from himself.  Hillary prefers to get her donations steered into her family foundation, from the Middle Eastern countries that sponsor terrorism. She lets Wall Street and Hollywood pick up her campaign tab.

From the comments section below the article:

"I'm still looking for the youtube videos of Hillary events, with loud, boisterous crowds, chanting "USA, USA, USA"."

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FBI agents incredulous Hillary got off...Comey bought and paid for somewhere along the way...

https://youtu.be/CpFxCi0M0IY

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 15, 2016

FBI agents incredulous Hillary got off...Comey bought and paid for somewhere along the way...

https://youtu.be/CpFxCi0M0IY

I think bigbore said Comey was a Republican, but that's not true.  He donated to the last two Republican candidates, then suddenly he switched his affiliation to "Independent"...about the same time he became head of the FBI, IIRC.

Comey lied, the scandal died.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Worried about Trump starting a war?  The next President might well inherit a war, because it sounds like this admin. is itching for one:

CIA Prepping for Possible Cyber Strike Against Russia

The Obama administration is contemplating an unprecedented cyber covert action against Russia in retaliation for alleged Russian interference in the American presidential election, U.S. intelligence officials told NBC News.

Note the use of the word "alleged".  Yeah, "alleged" is plenty enough reason to go to war with the Ruskies.

bigbear29

Good for President Obama!  It is time for a cyber strike!

dr65's avatardr65

I've read horrible, shocking and absolutely amazing things over the months. There is tons more to be found.

CNN and their buddies want only to make petty issues headline news. There is nothing their 'star' candidate

can do wrong. I just wish more people would truly judge whether they believe that it's fair Hillary has been 'saved'

so many times for things that had we done, we'd be away for a long, long time.

I believe in the clip above (Fox) it was said that a person took some pictures of the inside of a submarine simply to 

share with people he knew. He is in DEEP trouble right now. I think it is safe to say that Hillary has done thousands

of things that would have put her away many times. I don't care if she's a political figure, that's all the more reason

to use a stiff set of unfaltering standards and strict guidelines for what is within the law and what crossed the line.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 15, 2016

Worried about Trump starting a war?  The next President might well inherit a war, because it sounds like this admin. is itching for one:

CIA Prepping for Possible Cyber Strike Against Russia

The Obama administration is contemplating an unprecedented cyber covert action against Russia in retaliation for alleged Russian interference in the American presidential election, U.S. intelligence officials told NBC News.

Note the use of the word "alleged".  Yeah, "alleged" is plenty enough reason to go to war with the Ruskies.

Lol Diversion tactic.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

Good for President Obama!  It is time for a cyber strike!

And if the Russians just happen to be innocent of the accusations?  That might lead to something more than just a "cyber strike", but a real live shooting war with things like guns and planes and ships, even nukes.  You're worried about Trump starting a war, but it's OK if a Democrat does it?  Like I've said, it's not only your ignorance that is massive, it's your hypocrisy.

bigbear29

Trump is losing it! 

 

Trump calls for drug test ahead of next debate, says Clinton was 'pumped up':

Donald Trump suggested Saturday that his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, has been "getting pumped up" with performance-enhancing drugs and challenged Clinton to take a drug test before the final debate next week.

Trump argued that Clinton was more energetic during the beginning of their debate last Sunday, but lost her steam by the end of the debate. He offered no evidence to back up his wild claim.
"I think we should take a drug test prior to the debate," Trump said during a rally here. "Because I don't know what's going on with her, but at the beginning of her last debate, she was all pumped up at the beginning, and at the end it was like, huff, take me down. She could barely reach her car."
Trump appeared to be conflating the debate with last month's 9/11 ceremony where Clinton struggled to get inside her van on her own due to a bout with pneumonia.
Reached for comment, the Clinton campaign said Trump is trying to depress voter turnout by his "shameful attempts to undermine an election weeks before it happens."
Trump has repeatedly questioned Clinton's "strength and stamina," raising concerns about her physical and mental fitness to be president -- all without providing any evidence for his claims.
But Trump's suggestion that Clinton has been taking drugs in order to perform well at the presidential debates is a new step for him.
"A lot of things are going on, folks. A lot of things. I think she's actually getting pumped, you want to know the truth? She's getting pumped up," Trump said Saturday. "She's getting pumped up for Wednesday."
Trump added that presidential candidates are "like athletes" and should undergo drug screenings before the next debate.
"Athletes, they make them take a drug test. I think we should take a drug test prior to the debate," Trump said. "I'm willing to do it."
Trump is losing his mind!
mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 15, 2016

Lol Diversion tactic.

Yep!  SOP for Democrats.

BTW, I'm so glad you decided to join in again on this thread.  I was tired of being the only child in here. Wink

Well, there's bigbore, but he's still in diapers. (and they REALLY need to be changed because he's smelling to high heaven)

bigbear29

I don't think so, relax!  ooh, ooh, Nukes, oh my god!

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

None of us will be relaxing if a drugged up Hillary has access to the launch codes. 

You can capitalize "Nukes" but not God?  Whether you believe in a Deity or not, that should be capitalized.

Honestly, I'm growing weary of trying to educate you.  God knows someone should have, LONG before me.

The one good thing is that you can take your GED certificate, put it up on the rear window of your car and it will entitle you to park in a handicapped zone.

bigbear29

Mike you are so full of blah blah blah blah blah blah!  Are you apart of the tea party?  Blah blah blah blah blah.

 

Mike, thanks for trying to ed-u-ma-cate me, but I've done my time in school, thank you.  This is another reason I'm not a trump supporter.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

Mike you are so full of blah blah blah blah blah blah!  Are you apart of the tea party?  Blah blah blah blah blah.

 

Mike, thanks for trying to ed-u-ma-cate me, but I've done my time in school, thank you.  This is another reason I'm not a trump supporter.

"Blah blah blah blah...."? Maybe so, but that's better than the "Yada Yada Yada" you keep regurgitating.

Am I "apart of the tea party"? I JUST finished off a cup of tea, is that what you mean? A part or "apart"?   Obama is having a party in his pants later tonight and I'm sure you're invited.  You're one of those Dems who desperately want to be to him the same as Monica was to Bill Clinton. 

Plus, FYI, it's "TEA Party" - Taxed Enough Already.  I never went to any meetings or rallies, but I certainly agreed with their aims...as it should have for anybody who pays taxes.  Oh wait, that lets you out, huh?

It was the nasty left who put the pejorative "teabagger" label on them, showing your disdain not only for little old ladies with tea bags dangling from their hats, but that which you "enlightened" and "tolerant" leftists really have towards homosexuals.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 15, 2016

"Blah blah blah blah...."? Maybe so, but that's better than the "Yada Yada Yada" you keep regurgitating.

Am I "apart of the tea party"? I JUST finished off a cup of tea, is that what you mean? A part or "apart"?   Obama is having a party in his pants later tonight and I'm sure you're invited.  You're one of those Dems who desperately want to be to him the same as Monica was to Bill Clinton. 

Plus, FYI, it's "TEA Party" - Taxed Enough Already.  I never went to any meetings or rallies, but I certainly agreed with their aims...as it should have for anybody who pays taxes.  Oh wait, that lets you out, huh?

It was the nasty left who put the pejorative "teabagger" label on them, showing your disdain not only for little old ladies with tea bags dangling from their hats, but that which you "enlightened" and "tolerant" leftists really have towards homosexuals.

Omg lol.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

"....but I've done my time in school, thank you"

You should really look into getting a rebate on your education because it's definitely sub-par.  Someone saw you coming a long way off.  There's one born every day.

bigbear29

President Obama is having a party in his pants later tonight?  How would you know that?  Did you enjoy yourself?  That's oneway of getting your degree.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Just from what I've read, bigbore.  Something you need to learn to do.

In order to insult me, I must first value your opinion.

Nice try, though.

dr65's avatardr65

Billbo..back in April of this year but typical of the side that basically stays hidden until a nerve is touched.

And speaking of Commander in Chief, imagine the strangle hold that will be put on our Military men and women

if Hillary is elected.

Telling a Marine to sit down? He is an absolute nobody but will be in the White House advising as a mini-me. Mr.

President and Mr. Mini-President if elected..and no, I didn't do a typo..Hillary is the man in that relationship. Bill

is the whimp.

https://youtu.be/nfQTTF9p8pk

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 15, 2016

FBI agents incredulous Hillary got off...Comey bought and paid for somewhere along the way...

https://youtu.be/CpFxCi0M0IY

  They probably threatened and told him if you don't make this go away you will be looking down the barrel of a 357....Yes Nod

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 15, 2016

  They probably threatened and told him if you don't make this go away you will be looking down the barrel of a 357....Yes Nod

I think there are a lot of people who have to watch their back. She's ruthless. That's what power

in the wrong hands does and if people want to deny this type of stuff happens, they are in for

a world of hurt. This is the most corrupt candidate ever. This woman will lead us into nuclear war.

dr65's avatardr65

October 1st effects in force..YouTube censoring Hillary health related videos...this video..

the publisher had 2 of his removed without reason...okay their use policy but isn't it just

strange they are being taken down?. It will get worse. Control of everything we do and

have taken for granted and had a right to is what they want. It's happening.

https://youtu.be/Ren0vHuq-1A

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 15, 2016

Hey Stack, who's this?

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/02266022e57b34ee6371e24410e12b201e9b1da28e7a0a3e710908901f597648.jpg

Oh my, must be her sister, or twin?  Now THAT is funny.  Stack wont know or admit he knows lol.

bigbear29

Like I value your opinion, not!

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 15, 2016

Oh my, must be her sister, or twin?  Now THAT is funny.  Stack wont know or admit he knows lol.

Lol

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 15, 2016

Like I value your opinion, not!

"bigbear29"  What's the 29 stand for?  Can't be the year you were born, not by a long shot.  Can't be your age, because most all nearly 30-somethings know a little about life and the world.  No, I think it has to be your I.Q.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

 photo obama-cowardly-lion2.jpg

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 15, 2016

 photo obama-cowardly-lion2.jpg

Perfect, lol and he is such a COWARD.  I would say lily white coward but I would be accused of being racist lol.

 

Green laugh

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 15, 2016

Perfect, lol and he is such a COWARD.  I would say lily white coward but I would be accused of being racist lol.

 

Green laugh

My original one had Teddy Kennedy in it;  I had made it in reply to a progressive bragging about how he was "The Lion of the Senate".

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

If bigbore wins the lottery, here's the vehicle he should buy:

 Short Bus

dr65's avatardr65

Hillary talks about how many hours she spent testifying. Committee members were right there

with her.

I would be furious if the fiasco that was the investigation into Benghazi and the lies she and

Obama and everyone involved told meant nothing if I were them. And they are.

I have great respect for this man - 

https://youtu.be/ymxM9xSsdoo

lejardin's avatarlejardin

DR65 spot on.  What I wouldnt give to have Trey Gowdy run for President.

The whole Benghazi story saddens me and the coverup infuriates me.  Everytime I think of Benghazi I "see" Hitlery say "at this point what difference does it matter" are you kidding me??  WHAT IF IT WAS YOUR FAMILY HITLERY?????

She turns my stomach.  How DARE she say such a horrible thing, she slapped the families of those who perished as unimportant.  Add them to the list of throwaways in her past.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

For the Hillary supporters;

Hillary Praised Muslim Brotherhood

No wonder President el-Sisi of Egypt endorsed, for all practical purposes, Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton after meeting separately with them both last month in New York. For years, Hillary Clinton has been in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood, which Egypt and other predominantly Muslim countries recently declared an international terrorist organization.

grwurston's avatargrwurston
JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 16, 2016

The true Hillary...

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 16, 2016

The true Hillary...

Yep.....At least the Donald is coming to the table without someone else's agenda....we can name Hillary's boss....and clear ties....

The Donald hasn't been bought and paid for and it scares the tar out of them.....they made a promise they can't keep...sorry Hillary...maybe Club Fed won't be so bad...lol

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 16, 2016

Yep.....At least the Donald is coming to the table without someone else's agenda....we can name Hillary's boss....and clear ties....

The Donald hasn't been bought and paid for and it scares the tar out of them.....they made a promise they can't keep...sorry Hillary...maybe Club Fed won't be so bad...lol

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 15, 2016

Hillary talks about how many hours she spent testifying. Committee members were right there

with her.

I would be furious if the fiasco that was the investigation into Benghazi and the lies she and

Obama and everyone involved told meant nothing if I were them. And they are.

I have great respect for this man - 

https://youtu.be/ymxM9xSsdoo

I watched that when it first came out, I love Trey Gowdy. Lovies

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 16, 2016

This needs to be shared and shared as fast and often as possible.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

I roughnecked with Gloria Allred's nephew one summer and he was surprised when he mentioned his aunt was a lawyer and I knew who she was.  I forget the exact details, but she had sued some store for having separate sections of boys and girls toys.  I remember something else about some sort of suit involving abortion and she gave some California legislator a chastity belt - he called her some name and she sued and won...those were the reasons I remembered her. (I used to read a lot of newspapers, remember those things? Made out of paper!)  I always wondered what happened with him, but always figured she would need to come bail his butt outta jail because he was used to the nonchalant attitude in California towards smoking pot and would spark one up just about anywhere.  I kept telling him that wouldn't fly here in Texas.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 16, 2016

You're absolutely right.

http://truthfeed.com/8-actual-hillary-quotes/8825/

The examples there grwurston are priceless. Thumbs Up Comments like that should remind us all what 

little respect she has for everyone. We are all beneath her, she uses people and is using her supporters.

Hillary is so used to lying, it's second nature..wait, it's actually first reaction...and voters supporting her

should start realizing that after election day and God forbid, if she becomes President, she will go right 

back into first reaction mode. The things she told people all this time, when they do not materialize, will

just be explained away with more lies, excuses and diversion tactics. She will hold the most powerful

position in the US and anyone who stands in her way will be attacked, belittled, waved aside, laughed

at and dealt with accordingly.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

2nd debate SNL skit...

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 16, 2016

If you do a search, this is nowhere..WHY?

Watch the news conference with Allred and Zervos.

https://youtu.be/hBRr0lfYNCU 

Why if Zervos was so distraught and uncomfortable did she continue to contact Trump?

For 4 or more months beyond the alleged accusations she was still contacting him for a job.

Despite numerous signs of him wanting to cut ties and not give her what she wanted, she kept

contacting him.

She was on the Apprentice 9 years ago.

bigbear29

New Trump accuser: GOP nominee grabbed, kissed me:

 

Another woman stepped forward Saturday to accuse Donald Trump of sexual assault, saying he kissed her without her consent at his estate in Florida.

Cathy Heller joins a rapidly growing list of women who are accusing the GOP nominee of sexual assault in the week since a 2005 tape surfaced in which Trump bragged about being able to grope women and get away with it.
Heller, now 63, said she met Trump at Mar-a-Lago nearly 20 years ago while she and her family were having brunch, she told The Guardian newspaper.
Heller said she had been introduced to the GOP nominee by her mother-in-law. She told the paper the real estate magnate "took my hand, and grabbed me, and went for the lips," without her consent.
She said Trump held her in place and kissed her. CNN has not been able to independently confirm Heller's claims.
Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 16, 2016

This needs to be shared and shared as fast and often as possible.

It is fake. If you google it, it is a new account as well since she is not on Twitter. Let's use the truth since we have enough there.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 16, 2016

Jamora, this is unfortunately fake.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 16, 2016

Jamora, this is unfortunately fake.

Thanks....I don't twitter, so I can't tell....lol

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 16, 2016

It is fake. If you google it, it is a new account as well since she is not on Twitter. Let's use the truth since we have enough there.

I don't do twitter, only follow one person on my computer and he's a former Hockey Player.

sully16's avatarsully16

If anyone has the time today, check out Jades Blog, very interesting.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 16, 2016

I don't do twitter, only follow one person on my computer and he's a former Hockey Player.

Lol. If you post on instagram, there is an app that allows you to share it on fb and twitter automatically. I rarely check my twitter but have 600 followers. Not sure how I got them!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 16, 2016

Lol. If you post on instagram, there is an app that allows you to share it on fb and twitter automatically. I rarely check my twitter but have 600 followers. Not sure how I got them!

I don't do FB either, lol  I say hello, good bye that's the extent on my cell phone.

I check my e- mails today, have 508 unread, lol tomorrow there will be more. Party

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

New Trump accuser: GOP nominee grabbed, kissed me:

 

Another woman stepped forward Saturday to accuse Donald Trump of sexual assault, saying he kissed her without her consent at his estate in Florida.

Cathy Heller joins a rapidly growing list of women who are accusing the GOP nominee of sexual assault in the week since a 2005 tape surfaced in which Trump bragged about being able to grope women and get away with it.
Heller, now 63, said she met Trump at Mar-a-Lago nearly 20 years ago while she and her family were having brunch, she told The Guardian newspaper.
Heller said she had been introduced to the GOP nominee by her mother-in-law. She told the paper the real estate magnate "took my hand, and grabbed me, and went for the lips," without her consent.
She said Trump held her in place and kissed her. CNN has not been able to independently confirm Heller's claims.

All these attacks against Trump are going to backfire on Hillary.   Notice how the crowds at Trump rallies are getting larger?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 16, 2016

All these attacks against Trump are going to backfire on Hillary.   Notice how the crowds at Trump rallies are getting larger?

General Cornwallis thought very little of our Militia, he sorely under estimated the farmers with pitchforks, same for the Global elites, their Hubris is showing.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 16, 2016

All these attacks against Trump are going to backfire on Hillary.   Notice how the crowds at Trump rallies are getting larger?

CNN has not been able to independently confirm Heller's claims.

Did you notice when bigbore said something was hearsay earlier, but when it comes to accusations towards Trump...well, that's hunky dory then. 

I've noticed that there are many more pro-Trump comments under just about any YouTube political video and especially in the comments sections under articles on Yahoo or USA Today, particularly when they're so heavily slanted towards Hillary

bigbear29

Little mikey, when did I say something about hearsay?

We all will lose if trump gets into office,  the markets will tank!

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 16, 2016

I don't do FB either, lol  I say hello, good bye that's the extent on my cell phone.

I check my e- mails today, have 508 unread, lol tomorrow there will be more. Party

Omg. Lol.

bigbear29

Trump is hiding too much to be honest with the american people.  Little mikey!

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 16, 2016

General Cornwallis thought very little of our Militia, he sorely under estimated the farmers with pitchforks, same for the Global elites, their Hubris is showing.

Same with the Clinton's. Watch Bill Clinton have a US MARINE KICKED OUT for asking about Benghazi.

https://youtu.be/roQJDu2-qIs

bigbear29

They did the right thing by kicking his dumb A ss out!  It was a one-way conversation, so the dummy came to only hear himself talk.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 16, 2016

Same with the Clinton's. Watch Bill Clinton have a US MARINE KICKED OUT for asking about Benghazi.

https://youtu.be/roQJDu2-qIs

I saw that, they are going down.

bigbear29

Donald Trump is failing at basically everything right now. This poll proves it.:

Donald Trump has had a very tough three weeks on the campaign trail, from a bad first debate to the “Access Hollywood” video to the recent flood of allegations that he groped and made unwanted sexual advancestoward several women.

And yet Trump trails Hillary Clinton by just four points in the new Washington Post-ABC News poll — a number that is pretty par for the course for the 2016 election.

But the Post-ABC poll also makes this clear about what Trump is up to these days: He's doing almost everything wrong, and he's doing nothing to grow his support and actually put himself in a position to win.

To wit:

  • 57 percent of likely voters say his response to the “Access Hollywood” video of him making lewd and sexually aggressive comments about women was insincere. Just 40 percent say it was sincere.
  • 52 percent say his comments on tape aren't the brand of “locker room talk” that he and his supporters have routinely claimed. Just 40 percent say they are.
  • Related to that, 68 percent say they believe Trump has made unwanted sexual advances toward women, while just 14 percent say he has not. So, clearly, people think his actual behavior at least somewhat matched the words he claims were bluster.
  • 57 percent say it's inappropriate for Trump to say that Hillary Clinton would be in jail if he were president for her use of a private email server as secretary of state. Just 41 percent say it's appropriate.
  • 62 percent say Clinton's criticisms of the women who accused her husband of sexual misdeeds is not a legitimate election issue, despite Trump's increasing focus on it. Just 35 percent say it is a legitimate thing for Trump to focus on.
  • Similarly, setting aside his wife's role in it, 67 percent say Bill Clinton's treatment of women isn't a legitimate issue in the 2016 election. Just 31 percent say it is.   

Trump has spent the better part of the past week arguing that his comments on tape were just “locker room talk,” attempting to cast doubt on the accusations made against him by an increasing number of women and pressing the case that the Clintons' misdeeds are worse than the ones he's alleged to have committed.

The problem is that a majority of voters are buying none of it.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

They did the right thing by kicking his dumb A ss out!  It was a one-way conversation, so the dummy came to only hear himself talk.

Bigbear, could you please hit the reply button, I don't agree with anything you say, but it would be nice if you copied the person you are responding to. see how I copied what you said, hit reply and the click on " Include this quoted text in your reply"

That way it won't look like you are just spitting random stuff out.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

Donald Trump is failing at basically everything right now. This poll proves it.:

Donald Trump has had a very tough three weeks on the campaign trail, from a bad first debate to the “Access Hollywood” video to the recent flood of allegations that he groped and made unwanted sexual advancestoward several women.

And yet Trump trails Hillary Clinton by just four points in the new Washington Post-ABC News poll — a number that is pretty par for the course for the 2016 election.

But the Post-ABC poll also makes this clear about what Trump is up to these days: He's doing almost everything wrong, and he's doing nothing to grow his support and actually put himself in a position to win.

To wit:

  • 57 percent of likely voters say his response to the “Access Hollywood” video of him making lewd and sexually aggressive comments about women was insincere. Just 40 percent say it was sincere.
  • 52 percent say his comments on tape aren't the brand of “locker room talk” that he and his supporters have routinely claimed. Just 40 percent say they are.
  • Related to that, 68 percent say they believe Trump has made unwanted sexual advances toward women, while just 14 percent say he has not. So, clearly, people think his actual behavior at least somewhat matched the words he claims were bluster.
  • 57 percent say it's inappropriate for Trump to say that Hillary Clinton would be in jail if he were president for her use of a private email server as secretary of state. Just 41 percent say it's appropriate.
  • 62 percent say Clinton's criticisms of the women who accused her husband of sexual misdeeds is not a legitimate election issue, despite Trump's increasing focus on it. Just 35 percent say it is a legitimate thing for Trump to focus on.
  • Similarly, setting aside his wife's role in it, 67 percent say Bill Clinton's treatment of women isn't a legitimate issue in the 2016 election. Just 31 percent say it is.   

Trump has spent the better part of the past week arguing that his comments on tape were just “locker room talk,” attempting to cast doubt on the accusations made against him by an increasing number of women and pressing the case that the Clintons' misdeeds are worse than the ones he's alleged to have committed.

The problem is that a majority of voters are buying none of it.

omg, are kidding me, the Clinton news network.

ABC = All about Clinton

Your source is polluted.

bigbear29

The last one was not a reply to anyone.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

The Clinton camp is honing in on Trump's remarks so Hillary doesn't have to deal with real issues. 

This is especially rich considering who her husband is and his 'antics'. Even richer if you remember that Gary Hart had to drop out of a race becuse he had a girl friend.

Like many other elections this comes down to "What's in it for me" liberals vs "What's best for the country" conservatives. 

Should Hillary win her supporters are not going to like what's in it for them.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

They did the right thing by kicking his dumb A ss out!  It was a one-way conversation, so the dummy came to only hear himself talk.

By the way, that man is willing to die for you, so show some respect.

bigbear29

NO!  He came into that rally as a A ss hole,  so he gets no respect!

bigbear29

Where should I get my news, Breitbart?

I get my info from Fox news, CNN, MSNBC and Fox Business News.  Pretty balanced, yes?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 16, 2016

CNN has not been able to independently confirm Heller's claims.

Did you notice when bigbore said something was hearsay earlier, but when it comes to accusations towards Trump...well, that's hunky dory then. 

I've noticed that there are many more pro-Trump comments under just about any YouTube political video and especially in the comments sections under articles on Yahoo or USA Today, particularly when they're so heavily slanted towards Hillary

I noticed the same - lots of pro-Trump comments. There we see a good dose of reality totally opposite to what 

the news shows report about how awful he's doing and how he is failing in the polls. There's a better picture of

what's being said in the comments that matches the huge rally counts Trump's attracting too.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

Where should I get my news, Breitbart?

I get my info from Fox news, CNN, MSNBC and Fox Business News.  Pretty balanced, yes?

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

I see Trump signs and bumper stickers everywhere....the only Hillary signs I've seen are "Hillary for Prison"...LOL

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

Little mikey, when did I say something about hearsay?

We all will lose if trump gets into office,  the markets will tank!

I thought it was you, but I could be mistaken;  it could have been one of the other Hillary sycophants. 

What do you care about the markets?  I doubt you own any stock and I expect the only experience you have even peripherally with the term is stocking shelves.

bigbear29

Do you own any stock, or may-be a 401k?  Huh, Huh, Huh, huh!

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

Do you own any stock, or may-be a 401k?  Huh, Huh, Huh, huh!

Yup.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

Donald Trump is failing at basically everything right now. This poll proves it.:

Donald Trump has had a very tough three weeks on the campaign trail, from a bad first debate to the “Access Hollywood” video to the recent flood of allegations that he groped and made unwanted sexual advancestoward several women.

And yet Trump trails Hillary Clinton by just four points in the new Washington Post-ABC News poll — a number that is pretty par for the course for the 2016 election.

But the Post-ABC poll also makes this clear about what Trump is up to these days: He's doing almost everything wrong, and he's doing nothing to grow his support and actually put himself in a position to win.

To wit:

  • 57 percent of likely voters say his response to the “Access Hollywood” video of him making lewd and sexually aggressive comments about women was insincere. Just 40 percent say it was sincere.
  • 52 percent say his comments on tape aren't the brand of “locker room talk” that he and his supporters have routinely claimed. Just 40 percent say they are.
  • Related to that, 68 percent say they believe Trump has made unwanted sexual advances toward women, while just 14 percent say he has not. So, clearly, people think his actual behavior at least somewhat matched the words he claims were bluster.
  • 57 percent say it's inappropriate for Trump to say that Hillary Clinton would be in jail if he were president for her use of a private email server as secretary of state. Just 41 percent say it's appropriate.
  • 62 percent say Clinton's criticisms of the women who accused her husband of sexual misdeeds is not a legitimate election issue, despite Trump's increasing focus on it. Just 35 percent say it is a legitimate thing for Trump to focus on.
  • Similarly, setting aside his wife's role in it, 67 percent say Bill Clinton's treatment of women isn't a legitimate issue in the 2016 election. Just 31 percent say it is.   

Trump has spent the better part of the past week arguing that his comments on tape were just “locker room talk,” attempting to cast doubt on the accusations made against him by an increasing number of women and pressing the case that the Clintons' misdeeds are worse than the ones he's alleged to have committed.

The problem is that a majority of voters are buying none of it.

"The problem is that a majority of voters are buying none of it."

 

Hmmmm,

Is that why the "crowds" are so small at Hillbag's rallies?

bigbear29

Than you should be worried about the stock market! Or may-be you think that your 401k is not tied to the stock market.

bigbear29

That may-be true or not.  Why do you think that trump's manager is telling trump to stick to the message/ policies!

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

Than you should be worried about the stock market! Or may-be you think that your 401k is not tied to the stock market.

The economy will boom under a Trump presidency.   I'm only worried about how much Hillary and her crowd will loot out of the Federal coffers, not just to fill their own pockets, but to support the leeches like you.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Not very many at this Hillary rally;  just the usual cross section of her supporters.  They do accept her though.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

Than you should be worried about the stock market! Or may-be you think that your 401k is not tied to the stock market.

I thought you were a Bernie fan?  So you think its OK for obama to funnel billions of dollars to the Wall Street hedge funds?  If the stock market was propped-up under obama its due for a correction, as always, if that happens it will recover. 

And you don't have a problem with Hillary accepting millions from Wall Street donors?  You're a fraud.

bigbear29

Leech like me!  I make more money than you will ever see in a life time.  And why will the economy boom under trump?

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

Leech like me!  I make more money than you will ever see in a life time.  And why will the economy boom under trump?

 I make more money than you will ever see in a life time.

bigbore, you can BS your friends and I can BS mine, but don't try to BS me like that, 'k?

Gooble Gobble!

bigbear29

What!  Should I send you my TAX RETURNS?

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

What!  Should I send you my TAX RETURNS?

Gooble Gobble!

I'm trying to speak your language, but not gettin' though, sorry.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Mike is this you?  LOL

http://www.iliamnaguideservice.com/img/Big_Bear.jpg

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

Donald Trump is failing at basically everything right now. This poll proves it.:

Donald Trump has had a very tough three weeks on the campaign trail, from a bad first debate to the “Access Hollywood” video to the recent flood of allegations that he groped and made unwanted sexual advancestoward several women.

And yet Trump trails Hillary Clinton by just four points in the new Washington Post-ABC News poll — a number that is pretty par for the course for the 2016 election.

But the Post-ABC poll also makes this clear about what Trump is up to these days: He's doing almost everything wrong, and he's doing nothing to grow his support and actually put himself in a position to win.

To wit:

  • 57 percent of likely voters say his response to the “Access Hollywood” video of him making lewd and sexually aggressive comments about women was insincere. Just 40 percent say it was sincere.
  • 52 percent say his comments on tape aren't the brand of “locker room talk” that he and his supporters have routinely claimed. Just 40 percent say they are.
  • Related to that, 68 percent say they believe Trump has made unwanted sexual advances toward women, while just 14 percent say he has not. So, clearly, people think his actual behavior at least somewhat matched the words he claims were bluster.
  • 57 percent say it's inappropriate for Trump to say that Hillary Clinton would be in jail if he were president for her use of a private email server as secretary of state. Just 41 percent say it's appropriate.
  • 62 percent say Clinton's criticisms of the women who accused her husband of sexual misdeeds is not a legitimate election issue, despite Trump's increasing focus on it. Just 35 percent say it is a legitimate thing for Trump to focus on.
  • Similarly, setting aside his wife's role in it, 67 percent say Bill Clinton's treatment of women isn't a legitimate issue in the 2016 election. Just 31 percent say it is.   

Trump has spent the better part of the past week arguing that his comments on tape were just “locker room talk,” attempting to cast doubt on the accusations made against him by an increasing number of women and pressing the case that the Clintons' misdeeds are worse than the ones he's alleged to have committed.

The problem is that a majority of voters are buying none of it.

The women here don't seem too upset about what Trump said 11 years ago. This kind of disagrees with what the polls say. Maybe you should read what they say.

https://www.facebook.com/donaldtrumppresident/posts/647543225408904?comment_id=647550248741535

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 16, 2016

Gooble Gobble!

I'm trying to speak your language, but not gettin' though, sorry.

Must be nice to have a high paying job and be able to post all day long during every M-F work day and have all of that free time. I am fortunate if I can find a few minutes for lunch.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 16, 2016

Just now catching up and I must say this is another excellent depiction.  Pretty darn accurate.

bigbear29

It must be nice for wall street traders to make the kind money that they do, but what can you do.

 

Now you know why I copy/ paste!

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 16, 2016

Wikileaks spreadsheet with links...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgwLHAC5mk9Ghblc6O7AXzxX5dNLlMg0hHUn-D_Ay7I/edit#gid=0

Lurking

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 15, 2016

I see Stank Stack is still raging. He is having a breakdown. He seems to not know how the internet,  private facebook groups, phones, or basic politics works. Yes, city reps do post to closed private neighborhood fb groups. He is so angry about my early notice to members about a story before it hit the news. Yes, things work differently in the big city.  The way he resents lp people who work for a living (or those who have retired by now) speaks volumes. The amount of free time this guy has on his hands unbelievable.

"I see Stank Stack is still raging."

It's bad enough you're stalking me, but at least come up with better lame childish insults.

"Yes, city reps do post to closed private neighborhood fb groups."

You said that after you were caught lying about the Arlington County Election Board. But you'll probably convince one or two LP members that really happened, but I doubt Greenbay, Drenick1, or Skibunnylk will be one of them.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 14, 2016

You never have any takers there, do you?  Everyone else knows Todd runs LP. Seek help before you harm yourself or someone.

You are very mentally ill.

I asked  "Can someone please show me an example of Artist77 actually discussing lottery related topics because all I can find is childish name calling." and Artist answered: "You never have any takers there, do you?" ROFL 

You're correct, not one person gave an example of Artist77 discussing lottery related topics. I can't find "childish insults" predictions anywhere on LP either.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 16, 2016

I asked  "Can someone please show me an example of Artist77 actually discussing lottery related topics because all I can find is childish name calling." and Artist answered: "You never have any takers there, do you?" ROFL 

You're correct, not one person gave an example of Artist77 discussing lottery related topics. I can't find "childish insults" predictions anywhere on LP either.


REMEMBER WHEN BILL CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT?
(January 20, 1993 to January 20, 2001—two terms)

When Bill Clinton was president, he allowed Hillary to assume authority over an attempt to reform health care.

Her proposed plan was so bad that many Democrats came up with competing plans of their own in protest, and in spite of threats and intimidation, on September 26, 1994, the “Hillarycare” bill was declared dead.

This fiasco cost the American taxpayers about $13 million for studies, promotion, and other efforts.

Then, President Clinton gave Hillary authority over selecting a female attorney general. Her first two selections were Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood—both were forced to withdraw their names from consideration.

Next, she chose Janet Reno, which husband Bill described as "my worst mistake."

(Some may not remember that Reno made the decision to gas David Koresh and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas resulting in dozens of deaths of women and children.)

Husband Bill also allowed Hillary to make recommendations for the head of the Civil Rights Commission—Lani Guanier was her selection.

After considerable backlash from prominent Democratic senators concerning Ms. Guanier's radical views, Bill Clinton withdrew her name from nomination, stating that she did not represents the civil rights views that he had championed during his campaign.

However, apparently a slow learner, husband Bill continued to allow Hillary to make more recommendations.

She chose former law partners, Web Hubbel for the Justice Department, Vince Foster for the White House staff, and William Kennedy for the Treasury Department.

Her selections went well: Hubbel went to prison, Foster (presumably) committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.

(Is anyone wondering yet what her Supreme Court Justice appointments would be like?)

Many younger voters will have no knowledge of "Travelgate," the first major ethics controversy during Bill’s presidency.

Hillary wanted to award unfettered travel contracts to Clinton friend, Harry Thompson—but the White House Travel Office refused to comply.

She trumped up allegations of financial mismanagement and reported seven long-time White House employees to the FBI. This ruined their reputations, got them fired, and caused a thirty-six month investigation.

Eventually, most of the employees were reinstated and Clinton associates were forced out of the travel office. Only one White House employee, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime—the enormous crime of mixing personal and White House funds; a jury acquitted him in less than two hours.

Still not convinced of her ineptness, Hillary was allowed to recommend a close Clinton friend, Craig Livingstone, for the position of Director of White House Security.

When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, suddenly Hillary and the President denied even knowing Livingstone, and of course, denied knowledge of drug use in the White House.

Following this debacle, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office after more than thirty years of service to seven presidents.

Next, when women started coming forward with allegations of sexual harassment and rape by Bill Clinton, Hillary was put in charge of the "bimbo eruption" and scandal defense.

Let’s look at some of her more notable decisions in this regard . . .

She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. After the Starr investigation, they settled with Ms. Jones.

She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor.

After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs.

Hillary's devious game plan resulted in Bill losing his license to practice law for 'lying under oath' to a grand jury, followed by his subsequent impeachment by the House of Representatives.

Hillary avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice during the Starr investigation by repeating, "I do not recall," "I have no recollection," and "I don't know" a total of 56 times while under oath. (Sound familiar?)

After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork that she had "mistakenly thought was hers."

So you see, the email scandal and all of her malfeasance regarding the handling of Top Secret information, not to mention the "pay to play" schemes of the Clinton Foundation, are nothing new.

Hillary’s entire political career has been nothing but a web of lies, corruption and destruction in her quest for power.

Is anyone else ready to say, “Enough is enough!”?

But unfortunately, I’m sure her loyal fans will say, "What difference does it make?"

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 15, 2016

Hey Stack, who's this?

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/02266022e57b34ee6371e24410e12b201e9b1da28e7a0a3e710908901f597648.jpg

Unless you're a Florida resident, you can't vote for or against the one on the left. As for the politician on the right, he was elected to represent Naboo, "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away."

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 16, 2016

I asked  "Can someone please show me an example of Artist77 actually discussing lottery related topics because all I can find is childish name calling." and Artist answered: "You never have any takers there, do you?" ROFL 

You're correct, not one person gave an example of Artist77 discussing lottery related topics. I can't find "childish insults" predictions anywhere on LP either.

Behind me, Satan. They choose not to waste their time with you because you are worthless. No LP member has to justify anything to you. They know your rantings are sheer insanity.  You have acknowledged your own deceit. You are a nobody.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

It must be nice for wall street traders to make the kind money that they do, but what can you do.

 

Now you know why I copy/ paste!

Say what? 

Yea that's the reason you copy and paste anything that negates, defames Trumps character with malicious half truths.

In other words throw anything out there and see what sticks but now it is Trumps fault Wall Street traders make big money?  LOOK AT YOUR CANDIDATE.

Didnt you just say " I make more money than you will ever see in a life time".      and you are whining? 

Probably inheritance.

Someone tell me what I am missing here.  No need for poopbear to respond he is incoherent.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 16, 2016

Mike is this you?  LOL

http://www.iliamnaguideservice.com/img/Big_Bear.jpg

Metaphorically, yes.  I love to shoot and see the need for hunting and have nothing against it but I've never enjoyed killing anything, even wild game.  I would go hunting rabbits when I was a kid.  I'd go out sometimes on a cold winter's afternoon with my trusty, rusty .22 and my dog and get a young jackrabbit or cottontail, bring it home and skin it, giving the hide and guts to the dog and momma would fry up the rabbit the next morning for my breakfast. 

It wouldn't bother me one bit to shoot that sunuvagun if he was coming after me, though.  That reminds me, I need to finish up The Revenant.

bigbear29

What is the reason I copy/paste?   Lejardin!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 16, 2016


REMEMBER WHEN BILL CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT?
(January 20, 1993 to January 20, 2001—two terms)

When Bill Clinton was president, he allowed Hillary to assume authority over an attempt to reform health care.

Her proposed plan was so bad that many Democrats came up with competing plans of their own in protest, and in spite of threats and intimidation, on September 26, 1994, the “Hillarycare” bill was declared dead.

This fiasco cost the American taxpayers about $13 million for studies, promotion, and other efforts.

Then, President Clinton gave Hillary authority over selecting a female attorney general. Her first two selections were Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood—both were forced to withdraw their names from consideration.

Next, she chose Janet Reno, which husband Bill described as "my worst mistake."

(Some may not remember that Reno made the decision to gas David Koresh and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas resulting in dozens of deaths of women and children.)

Husband Bill also allowed Hillary to make recommendations for the head of the Civil Rights Commission—Lani Guanier was her selection.

After considerable backlash from prominent Democratic senators concerning Ms. Guanier's radical views, Bill Clinton withdrew her name from nomination, stating that she did not represents the civil rights views that he had championed during his campaign.

However, apparently a slow learner, husband Bill continued to allow Hillary to make more recommendations.

She chose former law partners, Web Hubbel for the Justice Department, Vince Foster for the White House staff, and William Kennedy for the Treasury Department.

Her selections went well: Hubbel went to prison, Foster (presumably) committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.

(Is anyone wondering yet what her Supreme Court Justice appointments would be like?)

Many younger voters will have no knowledge of "Travelgate," the first major ethics controversy during Bill’s presidency.

Hillary wanted to award unfettered travel contracts to Clinton friend, Harry Thompson—but the White House Travel Office refused to comply.

She trumped up allegations of financial mismanagement and reported seven long-time White House employees to the FBI. This ruined their reputations, got them fired, and caused a thirty-six month investigation.

Eventually, most of the employees were reinstated and Clinton associates were forced out of the travel office. Only one White House employee, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime—the enormous crime of mixing personal and White House funds; a jury acquitted him in less than two hours.

Still not convinced of her ineptness, Hillary was allowed to recommend a close Clinton friend, Craig Livingstone, for the position of Director of White House Security.

When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, suddenly Hillary and the President denied even knowing Livingstone, and of course, denied knowledge of drug use in the White House.

Following this debacle, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office after more than thirty years of service to seven presidents.

Next, when women started coming forward with allegations of sexual harassment and rape by Bill Clinton, Hillary was put in charge of the "bimbo eruption" and scandal defense.

Let’s look at some of her more notable decisions in this regard . . .

She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. After the Starr investigation, they settled with Ms. Jones.

She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor.

After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs.

Hillary's devious game plan resulted in Bill losing his license to practice law for 'lying under oath' to a grand jury, followed by his subsequent impeachment by the House of Representatives.

Hillary avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice during the Starr investigation by repeating, "I do not recall," "I have no recollection," and "I don't know" a total of 56 times while under oath. (Sound familiar?)

After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork that she had "mistakenly thought was hers."

So you see, the email scandal and all of her malfeasance regarding the handling of Top Secret information, not to mention the "pay to play" schemes of the Clinton Foundation, are nothing new.

Hillary’s entire political career has been nothing but a web of lies, corruption and destruction in her quest for power.

Is anyone else ready to say, “Enough is enough!”?

But unfortunately, I’m sure her loyal fans will say, "What difference does it make?"

I'm not going to point for point debate you, but have a couple of questions.

"After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs."

After investigating all the claims you made and many others, why was the Lewinsky affair the only thing Starr found?

"Is anyone else ready to say, “Enough is enough!”?"

A year ago on another message board forum, I predicted the only way the Republicans could keep Clinton from winning was to nominate Donald Trump. Bet you thought it was funny as Trump, one by one went after the other nominees until only two were left. After the Trump convention, it looked like a John Kasich endorsement might even put Trump over the top, but it never came. And just today Kasich said it’s “very unlikely” he’s going to be voting for Trump.

Trump's problem is lots of the people that should be supporting him are saying "Enough is enough".

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 16, 2016

Behind me, Satan. They choose not to waste their time with you because you are worthless. No LP member has to justify anything to you. They know your rantings are sheer insanity.  You have acknowledged your own deceit. You are a nobody.

With all your childish insults made to me and OTHER LP members and by your own admission never discuss lottery related topics, why are you still here?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 16, 2016

I see Trump signs and bumper stickers everywhere....the only Hillary signs I've seen are "Hillary for Prison"...LOL

LMAOO!! That's exactly what I see tooo! That is funny JAMORA, you made my day!

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 16, 2016

With all your childish insults made to me and OTHER LP members and by your own admission never discuss lottery related topics, why are you still here?

Behind me, Satan. I SMELL your desperation. You will wallow in your own filth all day tomorrow while I am at work. Be gone. Be sure to contact Todd and complain since he decides who stays here.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 16, 2016

LMAOO!! That's exactly what I see tooo! That is funny JAMORA, you made my day!

I wish I could say that was the case for Northern VA but I think there are only 5 Republicans here, counting me. Lol But it has been that way forever here.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 16, 2016

I wish I could say that was the case for Northern VA but I think there are only 5 Republicans here, counting me. Lol But it has been that way forever here.

Too close to DC, most likely....

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 16, 2016

Too close to DC, most likely....

Exactly! And most of us work there.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 16, 2016

I'm not going to point for point debate you, but have a couple of questions.

"After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs."

After investigating all the claims you made and many others, why was the Lewinsky affair the only thing Starr found?

"Is anyone else ready to say, “Enough is enough!”?"

A year ago on another message board forum, I predicted the only way the Republicans could keep Clinton from winning was to nominate Donald Trump. Bet you thought it was funny as Trump, one by one went after the other nominees until only two were left. After the Trump convention, it looked like a John Kasich endorsement might even put Trump over the top, but it never came. And just today Kasich said it’s “very unlikely” he’s going to be voting for Trump.

Trump's problem is lots of the people that should be supporting him are saying "Enough is enough".

Starr was initially appointed to investigate the suicide death of deputy White House counsel Vince Foster and the Whitewater real estate investments of Bill Clinton. The three-judge panel charged with administering the Independent Counsel Act later expanded the inquiry into numerous areas including an extramarital affair that Bill Clinton had with Monica Lewinsky.Originally dealing with the failed land deal years earlier known as Whitewater, Starr, with the approval of Attorney General of the United States Janet Reno, conducted a wide ranging investigation of alleged abuses including the firing of White House travel agents, the alleged misuse of FBI files, and Clinton's conduct during the sexual harassment lawsuit filed by a former Arkansas government employee, Paula Jones. In the course of the investigation, Linda Tripp provided Starr with taped phone conversations in which Monica Lewinsky, a former White House Intern, discussed having oral sex with Clinton.

This all lead to Bill Clinton's impeachment.

Yes, your prediction came true. We'll see on Nov. 8 how much support Trump has.

People are saying enough is enough, because they are sick and tired of what's going on in the country and the politicians that only care about getting themselves re-elected.

They are saying enough is enough, because they are fed up with all the lies and corruption from the Clinton's.

They are saying enough is enough, because they are tired of unemployment and seeing all the good paying jobs going overseas. You can't support a family on service jobs, unless you have 2 or 3 at once.

They are saying enough is enough, because they are tired of seeing their tax dollars used to support people that are not even legal citizens.

They are saying enough is enough, because they are sick of the their husbands, fathers, sons, and daughters being killed and maimed in one needless war after another started by one lying politician after another. Remember when they said Saddam Hussien had weapons of mass destruction which they never found?

They are saying enough is enough of political correctness.

They are saying enough is enough, of our country falling further and further into debt. $19.5 TRILLION and rising.

They are saying enough is enough, of the politicians who can't or won't do their jobs. Congress's approval rating is at an all time low for a reason.

They are saying enough is enough of political partisanship. Which is why nothing gets done.

They are saying enough is enough, of terrorism and an administration that won't call terrorists what everyone knows they are.

I'm sure others here can add some more, (please do) but you get the idea.

US Flag  Trump 2016. Lets make America great again!!!

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

NO!  He came into that rally as a A ss hole,  so he gets no respect!

You're the real A ss hole for calling every one who doesn't agree with you that. No one would respect you or want any from you. 

You are vermin.

Too bad LP doesn't have a read only category that would really drove you nuts.

bigbear29

Who's everybody LOSER!  Who have I called that, LOSER!

WHO!  LOSER!  Wearing a uniform does not give you the right to be a A ss hole,  LOSER!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

What is the reason I copy/paste?   Lejardin!

You're not supposed to copy and paste richy rich.

I am just going to ignore silver spoon from here on out, who's with me.

bigbear29

That is ok with me!  Oh, and by the way, trump is still losing.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 16, 2016

You're the real A ss hole for calling every one who doesn't agree with you that. No one would respect you or want any from you. 

You are vermin.

Too bad LP doesn't have a read only category that would really drove you nuts.

Coin Toss has no argument so he calls Bear childish names.

But the good news is Coin Toss is proving why Trump said "I love the poorly educated".

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 16, 2016

You're not supposed to copy and paste richy rich.

I am just going to ignore silver spoon from here on out, who's with me.

Let's add Stank Stack to that list. His mental breakdown is becoming painful to see. His denial of a story in my county that was in the Wasington Post and on other news sources is bizarre. I know he must be very lonely and that adds to his behavior. His sad rants and attacks when I am at work, says a lot. I know he must spend hours and hours a day with his copy and paste rants but he has nothing else to do. I know he is not young and dementia has set in.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 16, 2016

You're not supposed to copy and paste richy rich.

I am just going to ignore silver spoon from here on out, who's with me.

Count me in Sully.  He is nothing but an agitator and posts endless garbage.

Edit:  Artist, yes add stinky stack or whatever his name, but then I dont read his posts anyway.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 16, 2016

Count me in Sully.  He is nothing but an agitator and posts endless garbage.

Edit:  Artist, yes add stinky stack or whatever his name, but then I dont read his posts anyway.

Yes, when they go low, they go on ignore. Stinky stack...lol...lol

bigbear29

Yea, count me in to sully, because they don't post anything about Hillary.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 16, 2016

Starr was initially appointed to investigate the suicide death of deputy White House counsel Vince Foster and the Whitewater real estate investments of Bill Clinton. The three-judge panel charged with administering the Independent Counsel Act later expanded the inquiry into numerous areas including an extramarital affair that Bill Clinton had with Monica Lewinsky.Originally dealing with the failed land deal years earlier known as Whitewater, Starr, with the approval of Attorney General of the United States Janet Reno, conducted a wide ranging investigation of alleged abuses including the firing of White House travel agents, the alleged misuse of FBI files, and Clinton's conduct during the sexual harassment lawsuit filed by a former Arkansas government employee, Paula Jones. In the course of the investigation, Linda Tripp provided Starr with taped phone conversations in which Monica Lewinsky, a former White House Intern, discussed having oral sex with Clinton.

This all lead to Bill Clinton's impeachment.

Yes, your prediction came true. We'll see on Nov. 8 how much support Trump has.

People are saying enough is enough, because they are sick and tired of what's going on in the country and the politicians that only care about getting themselves re-elected.

They are saying enough is enough, because they are fed up with all the lies and corruption from the Clinton's.

They are saying enough is enough, because they are tired of unemployment and seeing all the good paying jobs going overseas. You can't support a family on service jobs, unless you have 2 or 3 at once.

They are saying enough is enough, because they are tired of seeing their tax dollars used to support people that are not even legal citizens.

They are saying enough is enough, because they are sick of the their husbands, fathers, sons, and daughters being killed and maimed in one needless war after another started by one lying politician after another. Remember when they said Saddam Hussien had weapons of mass destruction which they never found?

They are saying enough is enough of political correctness.

They are saying enough is enough, of our country falling further and further into debt. $19.5 TRILLION and rising.

They are saying enough is enough, of the politicians who can't or won't do their jobs. Congress's approval rating is at an all time low for a reason.

They are saying enough is enough of political partisanship. Which is why nothing gets done.

They are saying enough is enough, of terrorism and an administration that won't call terrorists what everyone knows they are.

I'm sure others here can add some more, (please do) but you get the idea.

US Flag  Trump 2016. Lets make America great again!!!

"This all lead to Bill Clinton's impeachment."

My hat's off to you for doing all the research, but at the end of the day the only thing accomplished by Ken Starr was a waste of time and money.

Bill Clinton was changed with abuse of power and perjury by the House of Representatives and acquitted by the Senate. Neither Senate vote was a majority, not even close to the required 67, and according Republican Senator Arlen Specter, the charges were "unproven". 

"Yes, your prediction came true. We'll see on Nov. 8 how much support Trump has."

The only prediction I'll make for November 8 and it's based on the 2004, 2008, and 2012 Electoral maps is if Clinton wins Pennsylvania and Florida, Trump can't win.

"I'm sure others here can add some more, (please do) but you get the idea."

One of our KY Senators six years ago demanded term limits and Rand Paul is currently running for his second six year term. I guess Paul forgot our other Senator, Mitch McConnell is in his sixth term. Term limits are not at the top of the list, but it and lots of other pet agendas are used to get elected but not actually do. Bet the farm that on November 8, all the KY Reps and Paul will be re-elected. And copy and paste that in many other states because for decades the Republican and Democrats exchanged control.

With that in mind, how can there ever be real change in Washington?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 16, 2016

Who's everybody LOSER!  Who have I called that, LOSER!

WHO!  LOSER!  Wearing a uniform does not give you the right to be a A ss hole,  LOSER!

"Wearing a uniform does not give you the right to be a A ss hole,  LOSER!"

There are protesters at both party rallies and it's way to late if they think what they do will have an effect on the election. What the candidates say between now and the election might have an effect especially in Utah where it's possible that Evan McMullin could get that states 6 electoral votes.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 16, 2016

"This all lead to Bill Clinton's impeachment."

My hat's off to you for doing all the research, but at the end of the day the only thing accomplished by Ken Starr was a waste of time and money.

Bill Clinton was changed with abuse of power and perjury by the House of Representatives and acquitted by the Senate. Neither Senate vote was a majority, not even close to the required 67, and according Republican Senator Arlen Specter, the charges were "unproven". 

"Yes, your prediction came true. We'll see on Nov. 8 how much support Trump has."

The only prediction I'll make for November 8 and it's based on the 2004, 2008, and 2012 Electoral maps is if Clinton wins Pennsylvania and Florida, Trump can't win.

"I'm sure others here can add some more, (please do) but you get the idea."

One of our KY Senators six years ago demanded term limits and Rand Paul is currently running for his second six year term. I guess Paul forgot our other Senator, Mitch McConnell is in his sixth term. Term limits are not at the top of the list, but it and lots of other pet agendas are used to get elected but not actually do. Bet the farm that on November 8, all the KY Reps and Paul will be re-elected. And copy and paste that in many other states because for decades the Republican and Democrats exchanged control.

With that in mind, how can there ever be real change in Washington?

Re: Your last question. Vote out the incumbents if we're not happy with them. The people vote them in, they can vote them out. Do that to a few Congressional lifers and everyone will be shocked. That will give the rest of them a real wake up call that the people are pissed with them. 

And the clear message will be, shape up or you'll be out too, the next election day.

bigbear29

That's correct, but the other protesters did not get the respect that the President gave to that guy in uniform.

I know trump would not have given that guy in uniform any respect, throw him out, in trump's words.

Yes, Utah so far is going to Evan McMullin.

Vergie6

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 14, 2016

http://nypost.com/2016/10/14/trump-camp-puts-forward-witness-to-refute-sex-assault-claim/

 

The man says he was sitting across from the accuser and contacted the Trump campaign because he was incensed by her account — which is at odds with what he witnessed.

“I have only met this accuser once and frankly cannot imagine why she is seeking to make out that Trump made sexual advances on her. Not only did he not do so (and I was present at all times) but it was she that was the one being flirtatious,” Anthony Gilberthorpe said in a note provided to The Post by the Trump campaign.

I saw that on TV too Jamora & I think the man was telling the truth about it!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Hillary wants open borders.  How can anyone be for that?  If you are, then take the front door off your residence.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Assange's internet connection cut.  Gee I wonder who did that.

dr65's avatardr65

lol! door off.

Assange yea - no coverage on CNN....

also on CNN story about being a Muslim American in year of Trump..who cares about that connection?

What about Muslim Americans right after 9/11? It's been there for years, it didn't start with Trump..

 

AND what the h*ell is CNN doing with those ads all over the place: Make in India...What?

 

And the move to rid Iraq of ISIS is secondary news over #1 spot: Trump sticks to rigged claim..

well, we already knew that, it WILL be rigged...boxes of votes sitting in warehouses..ready to be slipped in with

actual votes...wow we are a rotten corrupt dirty dictator type country thanks to Hillary Clinton.

destinycreation

The best outcome for the 2016 Presidential Election would be for BOTH Trump and Clinton to lose the election [not enough electoral votes], and the decision ends up in the Congress.  The best strategy for Congress would be to do what Congress does best, take a long time to make up their minds [delay tactics, like what the Senate is doing with Judge Merrick Garland] until March 2017, when the Vice Presidential candidate chosen by the Senate [which will probably be Gov. Mike Pence] can become the legal president.  Out of 5 choices [Trump, Clinton, Kaine, Pence, and possibly Johnson or McMullin (Utah)] Gov. Mike Pence is the best and wisest choice for the next U.S. PresidentHe is probably the lesser of 5 Evils.

bigbear29

He should have released all of the emails instead of playing the outside game to change an American election. 

Keywords:  American election

bigbear29

Trump Tax Plan Seen Adding Jobs, Then Costing Them Long-Term:

Donald Trump’s proposed tax plan could provide a short-term boost to the economy before costing more than 690,000 jobs over a decade, while Hillary Clinton’s plan could send job-creation in the opposite direction -- first down, then up, according to a new policy report.

The main reason for the differing outcomes is the plans’ effects on the federal debt, according to the analysis by economists and computer engineers at the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania -- which didn’t consider their spending proposals. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, proposes tax cuts for businesses and individuals, while Clinton, the Democratic nominee, proposes tax increases on the highest earners.

Donald Trump’s proposed tax plan could provide a short-term boost to the economy before costing more than 690,000 jobs over a decade, while Hillary Clinton’s plan could send job-creation in the opposite direction -- first down, then up, according to a new policy report.

The main reason for the differing outcomes is the plans’ effects on the federal debt, according to the analysis by economists and computer engineers at the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania -- which didn’t consider their spending proposals. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, proposes tax cuts for businesses and individuals, while Clinton, the Democratic nominee, proposes tax increases on the highest earners.

While Trump’s plan stimulates more growth and jobs “in the very short run, it under-performs both current policy and Clinton within a decade, due to higher debt,” a synopsis of the report says. Success for the Trump plan “hinges critically on finding substantial cuts to government spending down the road,” according to the synopsis.

The brief report was prepared by the Wharton School officials in tandem with the Washington-based Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center.

It found that under Clinton, growth in gross domestic product, a measure of total economic health, would fall 0.19 percent in 2018, when measured against growth expected without the effects of her plan. But by 2027, Clinton’s plan would produce GDP growth of 0.4 percent above the baseline, and by 2040, 1.19 percent above the baseline.

More from Bloomberg.com: Trump Says Polling-Place Cheating Is Leading to ‘Rigged’ Election

Trump’s plan would grow the economy by 1.12 percent above the baseline in 2018, but then shrink it by 0.43 percent in 2027 and by 6.73 percent in 2040.

The report is based on the “Penn Wharton Budget Model,” a new, proprietary method of calculation that incorporates predictions of the economic effects of tax proposals on human behavior. The group’s method, known broadly as “dynamic scoring,” used data from the Internal Revenue Service, the Federal Reserve, mortality tables and population surveys, among other sources, to model the candidates’ plans

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 17, 2016

Hillary wants open borders.  How can anyone be for that?  If you are, then take the front door off your residence.

                          Scared

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 17, 2016

Assange's internet connection cut.  Gee I wonder who did that.

                             Conehead    Jack-in-the-Box    no need to ask any further questions!!!!!

bigbear29

Why didn't he release all of the emails when he had the chance?

bigbear29

Donald Trump Attacks Republicans Who Dare to Play Down His 'Rigged' Election Rhetoric:

 

donald trump's 

unsubstantiated claims of a fraudulent election process have created a problem not only for members of his own party but also even for his own ticket.

While the Republican presidential nominee railed against alleged "rigging" or a "rigged" election more than 20 times this weekend, some of his fellow Republicans — starting with his running mate — are trying to tamp down the rhetoric.

The GOP vice presidential candidate, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, seemed to take a different position on the accusations, saying he and Trump "will absolutely accept the results of the election."

Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, who has come under fire from Trump after Ryan advised House members to do what’s best for them when it comes to supporting the party's nominee, released a statement this weekend reiterating that he is confident the election will be fair and not fixed.

"Our democracy relies on confidence in election results, and the speaker is fully confident the states will carry out this election with integrity," Ryan's press secretary, AshLee Strong, said in an email.

But Trump is doubling down, making it clear now that he's not only taking aim at the "rigged" system but the "naive" Republicans who aren't standing by him on the allegations.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 17, 2016

Assange's internet connection cut.  Gee I wonder who did that.

Correct, it seems contingency plans have been put in place.  Doesnt take a rocket scientist to see who wants the wikileaking stopped.

There is so much information on the underhanded doings by Hilly and her top advisors it is hard to keep up. 

This fraud knows no bounds.  The fix is in.

Quid quo pro between hillys state dept and the fbi. State dept tried to influence agency on the Hillys emails.  Obstruction of justice to try to bribe and attempt to alter documents.  Patrick Kennedy offered a bribe to change documents.

dr65's avatardr65

Democratic voters need to know their party has changed with the nomination of Hillary Clinton as their candidate for

President.

The trouble with some Democrats is they have a party loyalty which should be reconsidered for the 2016 election. As long

as it looks Democrat, speaks Democrat, says it's Democrat..the Dem voters and supporters are there to cast their vote 

across the board. Democrat as a basic standard of the selection in the voter box should be below what the basic standard is

for ethics and truth. If voting Democrat just because that's what you've been all your life is why you're voting Hillary, then

your reason has to be examined. Hillary doesn't represent traditional Democratic ideas. Hillary's power hungry core can't

process traditional ideas and values. The thousands of leaked emails have given great, great insight into who she is and

who she surrounds herself with...their way of thinking is her way of thinking, her way is their way too. She is led and pushed

in so many directions but the main objective for her is always there. She wants to be the first woman President of the US.

We aren't ready to simply ignore what isn't right in favor of a preference in political party. If we sink to that low, we are as

corrupt as she is because we are going along with it and letting on that it's ok with us.

I'm ashamed of our FBI and also our media and also of the Democratic party. There are concerns within the party that suggest 

their honest opinion is they do not support Hillary. They don't like her, don't agree with her and don't respect her. They can't

openly express their opinion because of the force put on them to accept Hillary. The Republican party breaking ranks over media

based sensationalism is another let down. They will be up for re-election and it's sad they can't come out to defend Trump

because sexism has been blown way out of proportion. So if they stand by him, they are afraid they will suffer. When did 

politically correct help Americans? Never.

You should think about the specifics of what the promises are...ARE there ANY? How are they going to DO it? Are you SURE

it's something that won't be the same as the last 8 years? When she says affordable health care...affordable child care..paid

college...paid sick leave/maternity leave..Jobs...WHAT AND HOW?? They don't say because they can't say. They want you to go

on a "we're going to do it, so just go with us, ok?" 

When someone's main goal is to serve themselves, how can they possibly serve YOU? She can't.

bigbear29

Melania Trump interviewed by CNN's Anderson Cooper

Read more from WFMZ.com at: http://www.wfmz.com/news/news-election/melania-trump-interviewed-by-cnns-anderson-cooper/42141196

(CNN) - Melania Trump sat with CNN's Anderson Cooper Monday for an interview that will air at 8 p.m. ET .

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Oct 17, 2016

The best outcome for the 2016 Presidential Election would be for BOTH Trump and Clinton to lose the election [not enough electoral votes], and the decision ends up in the Congress.  The best strategy for Congress would be to do what Congress does best, take a long time to make up their minds [delay tactics, like what the Senate is doing with Judge Merrick Garland] until March 2017, when the Vice Presidential candidate chosen by the Senate [which will probably be Gov. Mike Pence] can become the legal president.  Out of 5 choices [Trump, Clinton, Kaine, Pence, and possibly Johnson or McMullin (Utah)] Gov. Mike Pence is the best and wisest choice for the next U.S. PresidentHe is probably the lesser of 5 Evils.

Neither candidate getting enough electoral votes is the worst thing that could happen because it would disenfranchise millions of voters. Currently it's possible Evan McMullin could win Utah's 6 electoral votes, but it doesn't look like any of the other third party candidates will win electoral votes. The House can only choose between the three candidates with the most electoral votes.

The new Congress starts on January 3, 2017 and will officially count the electoral votes on January 6. The only possible scenario where neither Trump or Clinton gets 270 votes includes McMullin. It's very likely the Republicans will control the House, but either way, if the House makes McMullin President, they will disenfranchise 97% of the electorate.

The only way Pence can become President if Trump wins and then resigns or dies while in office or if Pence wins the 2020 election.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 16, 2016

Re: Your last question. Vote out the incumbents if we're not happy with them. The people vote them in, they can vote them out. Do that to a few Congressional lifers and everyone will be shocked. That will give the rest of them a real wake up call that the people are pissed with them. 

And the clear message will be, shape up or you'll be out too, the next election day.

Two years ago Mitch McConnell talked about his opponents inexperience in Federal offices and got 63% of the vote. Rand Paul is basically saying the same thing and is leading by 18 points. The Lexington area Congressman's ads looks like he is running against Obama and his opponent says Washington is broke, shows her family eating dinner, and then says she endorsed the ad. 

There aren't very many options here and in most states.

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 17, 2016

Melania Trump interviewed by CNN's Anderson Cooper

Read more from WFMZ.com at: http://www.wfmz.com/news/news-election/melania-trump-interviewed-by-cnns-anderson-cooper/42141196

(CNN) - Melania Trump sat with CNN's Anderson Cooper Monday for an interview that will air at 8 p.m. ET .

And yet most of the folks associated with Hillary won't dare go on Fox with O'Reilly or Hannity.

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 17, 2016

Hillary wants open borders.  How can anyone be for that?  If you are, then take the front door off your residence.

That's a good question for all democrats.

bigbear29

No, I do not watch Hannity, but I do watch Fox news, Fox business news, CNN and MSNBC news.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 17, 2016

Why didn't he release all of the emails when he had the chance?

    Cause he's going to drop the BIG BOMB when the time is right!!!! and all the Democrats are going to run with their tail between their legs.......Green laugh

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 17, 2016

    Cause he's going to drop the BIG BOMB when the time is right!!!! and all the Democrats are going to run with their tail between their legs.......Green laugh

I hope you're right but it's going to be a tough battle as only Fox will discuss it.

bigbear29

He's blocked right now!  The Cyber war has started.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trump rally in Green Bay.  Live stream starts in about 2 hours.  I'm going, just look for the tall good looking guy.  LOL

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Interesting that Hillary's body double has come forward.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

good for you, I cant wait to hear your opinion first hand. 

bigbear29

Trump will not even listen to his campaign manager, " stick to the message"!

 

If trump wins, the election was good.  If trump loses,  the election was rigged!  And trump wants to be President.  DANG!

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Clinton aides agree on own to accept donations from foreign lobbyists.

The whole Clinton clan is running amok, is anybody really in charge?  I guess that is normal in with anything Clinton related, a FREE FOR ALL, anything goes.

bigbear29

The New Protesters Defying Donald Trump: His Customers:

Morrie Gold is not a placard-waving political protester. He is a 69-year-old retired doctor in Pennsylvania.

But he recently participated in a quiet act of rebellion: He and 11 golfing buddies canceled their annual trip to a Florida resort owned by Donald J. Trump to express their disgust with his remarks about women, immigrants and minorities.

“For me,” Mr. Gold said, “it’s an ethical statement.”

Political demonstrations are alien to Margaret Riordan, too. “I’m just an old, white lady from Illinois,” she said. But when friends invited the 60-year-old and her husband to dinner inside Chicago’s Trump International Hotel and Tower, a one-woman boycott was born.

“Pick another place,” Ms. Riordan firmly told her friends. “By crossing that threshold, I’m saying Donald Trump’s O.K. I won’t do that.”

The reservation was canceled.

Across the country, voters alarmed by the tenor of Mr. Trump’s campaign and the emerging accounts of his personal conduct are engaging in spontaneous, unorganized and inconspicuous acts of protest that take direct aim at perhaps his most prized possession: his brand name.

In more than two dozen interviews, they described creative methods of punishing his economic empire and expunging the once-esteemed reminders of him from their lives, closets, golf bags and bookshelves over the past few months. They have thrown out — or cut up — Trump ties, called off stays at Trump hotels, even stopped imbibing Trump wines.

Gary Berry, a military veteran and Gold Star father whose son died while serving in the Army, used to love Mr. Trump’s sparkling wines. He bought the ornate bottles, stamped with the candidate’s heavily serifed surname, near his hometown, Charlottesville, Va., for special occasions like the birth of a grandchild and wedding anniversaries.

That stopped the moment Mr. Trump mocked the parents of Capt. Humayun Khan, an Army captain who was killed in Iraq.

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 17, 2016

Neither candidate getting enough electoral votes is the worst thing that could happen because it would disenfranchise millions of voters. Currently it's possible Evan McMullin could win Utah's 6 electoral votes, but it doesn't look like any of the other third party candidates will win electoral votes. The House can only choose between the three candidates with the most electoral votes.

The new Congress starts on January 3, 2017 and will officially count the electoral votes on January 6. The only possible scenario where neither Trump or Clinton gets 270 votes includes McMullin. It's very likely the Republicans will control the House, but either way, if the House makes McMullin President, they will disenfranchise 97% of the electorate.

The only way Pence can become President if Trump wins and then resigns or dies while in office or if Pence wins the 2020 election.

Even if a majority of the Electorate is disenfranchised, the end result has to be what is in the best interests of the nation as a whole

If Congress does not choose a new President by March 4, 2017, then the Vice President chosen by the Senate becomes the next new president.  This would probably be Gov. Mike Pence.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 17, 2016

Trump rally in Green Bay.  Live stream starts in about 2 hours.  I'm going, just look for the tall good looking guy.  LOL

Wow, lucky! Ty GreenBay!!

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Unluckyone on Oct 17, 2016

And yet most of the folks associated with Hillary won't dare go on Fox with O'Reilly or Hannity.

Well, look at all those leaked emails concerning the media...they direct her to good result media. If it weren't for 

Fox (and a dayum big idea of what makes sense) heck I might even be voting for Hillary with all the persuasive

reporting they do. Puke

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 13, 2016

Too funny

 Yet several male lp members said they received similar swimsuit shots...with no children...where she was discussing her body. They shared her emails with me. Lol She also sent one to me of her on a swing. She is a swinger. Guess you joined her 3 some. Let's be honest, she is about a 2 on a scale of 10. Have fun.

Wow?! I come back from vacation and find that not only have you been slandering me but my family as well?

I am speechless as I don't even know where to begin. First off, I have never belittled you either in private or on the forum but it sure seems you have built up animosity against me. Let me be clear, it was YOU who warned me about the regular, long time LP members being stalkers, molesters and even jailed convicts communicating from prison (didn't realize inmates had computers and Wi-Fi in their cells).

All the LP members I have conversed with privately have been here much longer than me and have never come across as threatening in any way, shape or form. Unlike you, I am an outgoing, friendly and happily married woman who sees the positive character traits in most people. I have communicated with many on this board including you for years and to your shock and horror even knew the real names of several members.

The pictures you have eluded to as "risque" are simply candid, harmless pictures of me enjoying life with my family yet you twist the narrative that I am some skank hose bag who rates a "2" on a scale of 1-10 and only looking to pick up guys on LP. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Take a good look at yourself in the mirror as what you see may very well disappoint you. Your childish antics towards me and others makes it blatantly clear that you have no life, husband or boyfriend so do yourself a favor and open up a new box of crayons so you can doodle more of your fictitious dreams to ease your daily pain of humiliation.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 17, 2016

Why didn't he release all of the emails when he had the chance?

bigbonehead

Are you serious, do you think there is no backup outlet?  Clinton and Obama both know their goose is

cooked if Hilda is not elected.   Hilda is willing to start a war with Russia to stop the emails because she

knows what's in them. 

Some of the FBI are jumping ship because they know what the real truth is.  I would not put it past Obama

or Hilda to use nukes to try and stop the information from getting out.  They won't release the proof about

the Russians because to do that means exposing the content.  Why don't they want those emails made public?

 

I have even heard that Hilda and Obama are talking first strike.  Wow.  Hilda thinks that Trump can't be trusted

with the codes.  What is Hilda and Obama hiding and why are they running scared?  I know you think Trump's tax

returns are the biggest news of the election but maybe you should take another look at who your supporting.

RL

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Oct 17, 2016

Wow?! I come back from vacation and find that not only have you been slandering me but my family as well?

I am speechless as I don't even know where to begin. First off, I have never belittled you either in private or on the forum but it sure seems you have built up animosity against me. Let me be clear, it was YOU who warned me about the regular, long time LP members being stalkers, molesters and even jailed convicts communicating from prison (didn't realize inmates had computers and Wi-Fi in their cells).

All the LP members I have conversed with privately have been here much longer than me and have never come across as threatening in any way, shape or form. Unlike you, I am an outgoing, friendly and happily married woman who sees the positive character traits in most people. I have communicated with many on this board including you for years and to your shock and horror even knew the real names of several members.

The pictures you have eluded to as "risque" are simply candid, harmless pictures of me enjoying life with my family yet you twist the narrative that I am some skank hose bag who rates a "2" on a scale of 1-10 and only looking to pick up guys on LP. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Take a good look at yourself in the mirror as what you see may very well disappoint you. Your childish antics towards me and others makes it blatantly clear that you have no life, husband or boyfriend so do yourself a favor and open up a new box of crayons so you can doodle more of your fictitious dreams to ease your daily pain of humiliation.

You need to  return your college degree, dear. Slander is verbal, not written. Lie lie lie.  Multiple male lp members told me they were surprised at you sending non family pics of yourself and discussing your body. I saw the pms. I had told you to stop sending me your silly pics. Don't assume strangers are your friends and grow up. Happily married? Yea right. Learn your lesson here and move on. I especially like the line in your pms...you are the only one I am sending these pics too. Lol Grow up. I grew tired of arguing with you in pms. You deserve an Academy award here. You are ridiculous and set all women back 6o years. Your own response is filled with sexist statements and you are clueless. There are many women on LP that I respect tremendously but they have class. Not one of them has ever acted like you.

You were on vacation??? From what??? Time to put you on ignore.

dr65's avatardr65

Rally in Wisconsin excellent.

CNN will surely have some snide remark about him calling the kids up to the stage.

There are a lot of people that agree with what Trump is saying. There was a lot of support

at that rally and in fact at all of them. No matter what they try to say about him, to his 

supporters it just plain doesn't matter. He's the one for the job no question about it.

US Flag

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 17, 2016

You need to  return your college degree, dear. Slander is verbal, not written. Lie lie lie.  Multiple male lp members told me they were surprised at you sending non family pics of yourself and discussing your body. I saw the pms. I had told you to stop sending me your silly pics. Don't assume strangers are your friends and grow up. Happily married? Yea right. Learn your lesson here and move on. I especially like the line in your pms...you are the only one I am sending these pics too. Lol Grow up. I grew tired of arguing with you in pms. You deserve an Academy award here. You are ridiculous and set all women back 6o years. Your own response is filled with sexist statements and you are clueless. There are many women on LP that I respect tremendously but they have class. Not one of them has ever acted like you.

You were on vacation??? From what??? Time to put you on ignore.

Well, in her defense, I never got one. I don't want one but I'm just saying that she hasn't sent everyone

a picture. 

I will agree you have to be careful what you do here or anywhere online. The world, especially the internet,

is a bad place. You just have to be careful what you do and who you trust.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 17, 2016

Well, in her defense, I never got one. I don't want one but I'm just saying that she hasn't sent everyone

a picture. 

I will agree you have to be careful what you do here or anywhere online. The world, especially the internet,

is a bad place. You just have to be careful what you do and who you trust.

Thank you. I appreciate your common sense. I tried to educate her via pms for her sake and that of her child, but it fell on deaf ears. At least I feel I have done a good deed here, even by trying to pound it into her head, but I doubt any lesson was learned. She does not believe the Internet is a bad place.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

The rally was great!  Thousands of people, very noisy and lots of enthusiasm.  It was kind of like a political rock concert.  As we say in Wisconsin... Trump is da man!  Also, everyone was well behaved, except for the protesters.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 17, 2016

The rally was great!  Thousands of people, very noisy and lots of enthusiasm.  It was kind of like a political rock concert.  As we say in Wisconsin... Trump is da man!  Also, everyone was well behaved, except for the protesters.

   GreenBay... was that the first Trump rally you went to in Wisconsin...?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 17, 2016

   GreenBay... was that the first Trump rally you went to in Wisconsin...?

No, the first one I went to I didn't know you had to print admission  tickets online.  They wouldn't let me in.   Funny thing is, this time I had a ticket and they didn't ask for it.  LOL

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 17, 2016

No, the first one I went to I didn't know you had to print admission  tickets online.  They wouldn't let me in.   Funny thing is, this time I had a ticket and they didn't ask for it.  LOL

  Isn't that the way it always happens... do you have an idea of how many people were there...?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

I wonder if bigbear or Stack ever went to a Hillary rally?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 17, 2016

  Isn't that the way it always happens... do you have an idea of how many people were there...?

No idea how many.  It was a large room at the convention center.  Packed wall to wall.  I felt like a <snip> sardine. 

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Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 17, 2016

I wonder if bigbear or Stack ever went to a Hillary rally?

   Probably in their dreams... lol

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 17, 2016

No idea how many.  It was a large room at the convention center.  Packed wall to wall.  I felt like a <snip> sardine. 

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          Wow!!   that must have been something to be that close to see someone running to be President...

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 17, 2016

   Probably in their dreams... lol

Are you sure you don't mean nightmare?  Hillary is so fake.  That stupid smile of hers really pisses me off.  So condescending.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 17, 2016

          Wow!!   that must have been something to be that close to see someone running to be President...

Actually, I think I was close to the next President.  I'm tired.  Good night DEE

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 17, 2016

Are you sure you don't mean nightmare?  Hillary is so fake.  That stupid smile of hers really pisses me off.  So condescending.

   Well they wouldn't think it was a nightmare...  LOL

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 17, 2016

Actually, I think I was close to the next President.  I'm tired.  Good night DEE

   I'm sure you are tired GreenBay that had to be an exciting nite for you...Good Nite and get some rest GreenBay ..

dr65's avatardr65

Ok..peculiar..I went to CNN to see what they're saying..anyway Melania Trump saying she believes her husband..

well, that's not news I believe what the guy says too....

but what is weird...what is that MAKE IN INDIA junk on CNN's site..??

AND why is there a privacy and terms agreement there now? I NEVER saw that before when I went to CNN.com...

Oh and sorry to be bouncing around so much ... but they have a quote by Donald Jr that: they're all fat and ugly..

geez, now that Hillary is in her coffin resting until the debate, CNN doesn't have anything better to report than on 

Donald Jr? I didn't even click on it..

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 17, 2016

Ok..peculiar..I went to CNN to see what they're saying..anyway Melania Trump saying she believes her husband..

well, that's not news I believe what the guy says too....

but what is weird...what is that MAKE IN INDIA junk on CNN's site..??

AND why is there a privacy and terms agreement there now? I NEVER saw that before when I went to CNN.com...

Oh and sorry to be bouncing around so much ... but they have a quote by Donald Jr that: they're all fat and ugly..

geez, now that Hillary is in her coffin resting until the debate, CNN doesn't have anything better to report than on 

Donald Jr? I didn't even click on it..

They're not even subtle anymore, eh?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 17, 2016

They're not even subtle anymore, eh?

No and it just plain stinks how pro Hillary they are..but it's just weird too about the ad and the privacy statement.
Don't get me wrong, I've seen these many times before but struck me as strange tonight, I never saw it there.

And the Make in India..that's exactly what it says...it's on the top of the page, on the sides, on the bottom...weird.

At least 7 places, never saw them before either..reference to a Carlyle group..I'm wondering if it's time for favors.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

I refuse to click on CNN, so I can't say....lol

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Oct 17, 2016

Even if a majority of the Electorate is disenfranchised, the end result has to be what is in the best interests of the nation as a whole

If Congress does not choose a new President by March 4, 2017, then the Vice President chosen by the Senate becomes the next new president.  This would probably be Gov. Mike Pence.

You really ought to read the U.S. Constitution.

Amendment XII

The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

If McMullin wins in Utah, he, Clinton and Trump are the three. Pence will not get any votes for President and ineligible using that or any scenario.

Amendment XX

Section 1.

The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.

Forget the odds against neither major party candidate getting 270 electoral votes, the House must vote before noon on January 20.   What makes you think neither Clinton or Trump will get 270 electoral votes?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 17, 2016

I refuse to click on CNN, so I can't say....lol

lol! I click on it to see what new rubbish they have for the day. Oh JAMORA, I meant to thank you for the 

spreadsheet list awhile back you posted here...Wikileaks, I had fun with that. Thumbs Up

noise-gate

Why are " you people" afraid to go to CNN?  They actually giving Trump free airtime for claiming that the system is " Rigged."  Any other politician would be shut down in a nano second. CNN is graciously airing this claim- as Don King would say " Only In America." Do you not see that CNN is part of the Rebellion? Oh Wait, my thoughts are overlapping after seeing " Rogue One" on Youtube from StarWars.  Sorry..

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 17, 2016

lol! I click on it to see what new rubbish they have for the day. Oh JAMORA, I meant to thank you for the 

spreadsheet list awhile back you posted here...Wikileaks, I had fun with that. Thumbs Up

No problem....The more people that see it the better. Someone on another forum said CNN implied it was illegal to read them...LOL!!!!!!  Green laughBwahahaha!

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 17, 2016

Why are " you people" afraid to go to CNN?  They actually giving Trump free airtime for claiming that the system is " Rigged."  Any other politician would be shut down in a nano second. CNN is graciously airing this claim- as Don King would say " Only In America." Do you not see that CNN is part of the Rebellion? Oh Wait, my thoughts are overlapping after seeing " Rogue One" on Youtube from StarWars.  Sorry..

Afraid, no.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 17, 2016

I refuse to click on CNN, so I can't say....lol

You posted this above and you saying you not afraid?

Definition of afraid..

worried that something undesirable will occur or be done.   That CNN  & other news organizations are working for Clinton and will swing the election her way:  In other words....Fear!

 

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 17, 2016

You posted this above and you saying you not afraid?

Definition of afraid..

worried that something undesirable will occur or be done.   That CNN  & other news organizations are working for Clinton and will swing the election her way:  In other words....Fear!

 

Errr, no.....I don't click on it out of disgust.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

For me it's not being afraid at all noise-gate, I just don't like their left leaning pinko bs.

Opinions right now has End Trump's rigged vote nonsense. 

Except for Fox the only reliable news sources are Canada and Israel and that alone speaks volumes.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 17, 2016

Errr, no.....I don't click on it out of disgust.

Ok, sure. Well  did you like that guy at a Trump rally who said that if Hill is elected President , he wouldn't mind " taking her out?" Do threats float you boat?  Come clean Mora. Are you into violence? What color belt do you hold in jiu jitsu?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 17, 2016

I wonder if bigbear or Stack ever went to a Hillary rally?

Saw both Clintons in 2008; she spoke at Youngstown State and he spoke in Warren, Ohio. Saw McCain and Palin at the Rubber Bowl in Akron too.

I don't expect to see Trump, Pence, the Clintons, or Kaine in KY this year because this state is solid red. And that's why I can't understand why you're wasting you time when Wisconsin is likely blue. How much would you bet on Trump winning this election?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 17, 2016

For me it's not being afraid at all noise-gate, I just don't like their left leaning pinko bs.

Opinions right now has End Trump's rigged vote nonsense. 

Except for Fox the only reliable news sources are Canada and Israel and that alone speaks volumes.

Trump is claiming there will be rigging, cheating, or whatever he calls it in Republican ran counties and blaming Paul Ryan. It makes perfect sense and logical too that Coin Toss is supporting Trump.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 17, 2016

For me it's not being afraid at all noise-gate, I just don't like their left leaning pinko bs.

Opinions right now has End Trump's rigged vote nonsense. 

Except for Fox the only reliable news sources are Canada and Israel and that alone speaks volumes.

Frankly Coin- Its all about opinions. l never hold it against anyone because l do not want to think or choose for the next person. We had 8 years of Reagan, 4 of Bush Snr, 8 of Clinton., 8 of W, 8 of Obama- and you know what- we still here. No country has invaded us during those years and there was no fighting in the streets because a particular candidate did not win. BUT- from all the hot air that is blowing from the Trump rallies, this is the first time where street fighting may break out after a Presidential election. If it has happened before, l stand corrected. The other thing is this: If Trump was ahead in the Polls, the word " rigging" would  never be mentioned, but because things are what they are" Its rigged. Trump is so in love with himself that he thinks everyone should love him regardless of the things he says. That is a major failing of his. In his dream he sees that actress that said " You like me, you really like me."

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 17, 2016

You posted this above and you saying you not afraid?

Definition of afraid..

worried that something undesirable will occur or be done.   That CNN  & other news organizations are working for Clinton and will swing the election her way:  In other words....Fear!

 

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 18, 2016

Frankly Coin- Its all about opinions. l never hold it against anyone because l do not want to think or choose for the next person. We had 8 years of Reagan, 4 of Bush Snr, 8 of Clinton., 8 of W, 8 of Obama- and you know what- we still here. No country has invaded us during those years and there was no fighting in the streets because a particular candidate did not win. BUT- from all the hot air that is blowing from the Trump rallies, this is the first time where street fighting may break out after a Presidential election. If it has happened before, l stand corrected. The other thing is this: If Trump was ahead in the Polls, the word " rigging" would  never be mentioned, but because things are what they are" Its rigged. Trump is so in love with himself that he thinks everyone should love him regardless of the things he says. That is a major failing of his. In his dream he sees that actress that said " You like me, you really like me."

noise-gate,

Good points but for example, can we really be expected to believe that in the 2012 presidential election not one person in Philadelphia voted for Romney? So the story goes. 

No politician is squeaky clean but I do believe Hillary is the most devious of all right now. 

PS.

I wish some of the other Hillary supporters here could approach all this like you.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 18, 2016

noise-gate,

Good points but for example, can we really be expected to believe that in the 2012 presidential election not one person in Philadelphia voted for Romney? So the story goes. 

No politician is squeaky clean but I do believe Hillary is the most devious of all right now. 

PS.

I wish some of the other Hillary supporters here could approach all this like you.

l approach it like this Coin Toss: once the confetti was been swept up off the floor, and the night is over, it's time to get back to reality,back to living the way we were. If l asked you who won the Super Bowl 2 years   would you remember, unless your favorite team won it's unlikely you would nor would you care. A month after the elections or even sooner, no one would care. All these promises do not come to fruition overnight  so everything both candidates promise , are just that promises. Hill talks about creating well paying jobs, Trump talks about bringing jobs back again.. Come on- you don't just put the brakes on what is presently going on and say" that's it, we turning he page." Both candidates have made history regardless of who is the last person standing. On that note, lm off to bed. Be well. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

This is disgusting...

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 17, 2016

No problem....The more people that see it the better. Someone on another forum said CNN implied it was illegal to read them...LOL!!!!!!  Green laughBwahahaha!

And now they're trying this:

There is nothing in the emails that make them any different than the external ones.

One interesting line the piece should have probably left out..

Hillary - "There should be no bank too big to fail and no individual too big to jail"

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Stack you forget Governor Walker won 2 elections in 3 years.  The left threw everything at his recall and he still won.  All it takes is for the "silent majority" to get pumped up enough to vote, and they are.  I think Trump will take Wisconsin by a narrow margin.

dr65's avatardr65

CNN states close race in Nevada, North Carolina and Clinton behind in Ohio.

noise-gate

Not surpring though is that there is not a single poll out there that indicates that Trump is going to be President of these United States..or is there? What l am saying is these polls that show him ahead here, she ahead there mean absolutely nothing at this stage. Trump has been throwing Hail Mary's for a while now and the needle has not moved in the right direction for him..or do you see it differently?

As always, an opinion.

bigbear29

Why Trump's talk of a rigged vote is so dangerous:

Donald Trump is playing with fire.

The Republican presidential nominee's claim that the election is being rigged against him represents the most outlandish moment yet in a campaign devoted to dismantling political norms.
Trump might not be the first candidate to feel nefarious forces are moving to keep him from the White House -- presidential elections have occasionally been disputed after votes are counted and have often been marred by accusations of dark instruments of fraud, such as the dead casting votes.
But Trump's claim three weeks before Election Day -- as many voters are already going to the polls -- that the race is being being deliberately stacked against him by a fearful political establishment flies in the face of historical precedent. And should he lose, it threatens the legitimacy of those left to govern after the most anarchic election in modern history.
"Remember, we are competing in a rigged election," Trump said at a Wisconsin rally Monday night. "They even want to try and rig the election at the polling booths, where so many cities are corrupt and voter fraud is all too common."
His accusations alone, experts say, could inflict long-standing damage on the US political system itself by eroding trust in the probity of the electoral process.
"The most important thing in the system is that the winners win and the losers lose," said Mark Braden, former chief counsel of the Republican National Committee. "Almost as important as that is that the rational people that support the loser believes that the winner won."
One of Trump's GOP primary rivals, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, rejected Trump's claims that the election is being "rigged."
"This election is not being rigged," Rubio, who is now seeking re-election to his Senate seat, said in a debate Monday against Democratic challenger Rep. Patrick Murphy. "There is no evidence behind any of this, so this should not continue to be said."
Trump's accusations come as his campaign slips further behind Democrat Hillary Clinton three weeks from Election Day, prompting him to deal in ever more conspiratorial claims that shield him from culpability in his own fate. And there is every sign that his most loyal supporters accept his warnings that a "horror show" is taking place and that the election could be "stolen."
bigbear29

ow low can Trump go in the polls?

New surveys suggest the GOP nominee is perilously close to a historic rebuke.

 

Polls conducted since the first presidential debate last month put Donald Trump on a pace to earn a smaller percentage of the vote than any major-party nominee in at least 20 years.

In matchups that include third-party candidates, Trump is winning, on average, 39.6 percent of the vote compared to 46.2 percent for Hillary Clinton in the dozen national polls using live-telephone interviewers conducted since September 26.

For much of the presidential campaign, the focus has been on Trump’s apparent ceiling: He has been unable to grow his coalition to the extent necessary to claim the lead over Clinton.

Now, though, after weeks of negative news coverage after Trump’s poor performance in the first debate, the tape of his sexually aggressive remarks leaked earlier this month and reports from a number of women claiming he sexually assaulted or harassed them, it’s also clear Trump has a floor of about 40 percent of the electorate.

That means, while he lags behind Clinton this year, Trump appears unlikely to end up with a smaller percentage of the vote than George H.W. Bush did in 1992 against Bill Clinton.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-polling-229916#ixzz4NS8lEvI6
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bigbear29

Well I guess trump will not get the Black, Hispanic, Asian or The white college educated women votes.

bigbear29

What backup outlet RL-idiot?

We can confirm Ecuador cut off Assange's internet access Saturday, 5pm GMT, shortly after publication of Clinton's Goldman Sachs speechs.

Keywords:  cut off Assange's internet access.

 

Here's more STUPIDITY!  "I would not put it past Obama or Hilda to use nukes to try and stop the information from getting out".  And yes, this is also from RL-idiot!

dr65's avatardr65

LOL! Obama and his holier than thou advice: Trump should stop whining about Election fixes.

Aren't there things Obama should be doing right now instead of injecting his arrogance into this election?

It's all a big joke and that's the problem. Instead of being serious about the matter, he reduces it to grade

school comebacks. If someone has a concern, isn't it respectable and mature to address it accordingly?

Especially when you're the President of the United States?

dr65's avatardr65

Oh and Trump's remarks might erode public trust? I hope they do.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 18, 2016

LOL! Obama and his holier than thou advice: Trump should stop whining about Election fixes.

Aren't there things Obama should be doing right now instead of injecting his arrogance into this election?

It's all a big joke and that's the problem. Instead of being serious about the matter, he reduces it to grade

school comebacks. If someone has a concern, isn't it respectable and mature to address it accordingly?

Especially when you're the President of the United States?

Then Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Marco Rubio, and others are "holier than thou" too. When are you going to face the facts; you're backing an whining loser for President?

dr65's avatardr65

Then Obuma goes on to say 'if whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming

somebody else, then you don't have what it takes to be in this job'.

Let's specifically outline exactly what Obama said...no evidence of widespread voter fraud...now, remember

that because when it is exposed, that is his out door like always. Always measure your words beforehand

then when someone calls you out on them, you can say you didn't say it, act like you never heard it and

claim you can't remember it.

And further 'Trump's flattery of Vladimir Putin is is out of step with US norms'.

Someone needs to get in step with something normal when dealing with Russia and Putin and the Obama 

administration nor the Hillary ideology is in step with anything that won't lead to WW3.

Putin likes neither of them and for very good reason.

bigbear29

I love this title: 

Obama: Trump's rigged election claim 'whining before the game's even over'

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 17, 2016

For me it's not being afraid at all noise-gate, I just don't like their left leaning pinko bs.

Opinions right now has End Trump's rigged vote nonsense. 

Except for Fox the only reliable news sources are Canada and Israel and that alone speaks volumes.

I hear you! very hard to beat the MSM when the deck is so heavily stacked (95% market share) against common sense.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 18, 2016

Stack you forget Governor Walker won 2 elections in 3 years.  The left threw everything at his recall and he still won.  All it takes is for the "silent majority" to get pumped up enough to vote, and they are.  I think Trump will take Wisconsin by a narrow margin.

"I think Trump will take Wisconsin by a narrow margin."

Walker is a moderate and similar to John Kasich in Ohio, but Kasich was never recalled, very popular, and is not endorsing Trump. Is Walker still "absolutely endorsing Trump?

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 17, 2016

You need to  return your college degree, dear. Slander is verbal, not written. Lie lie lie.  Multiple male lp members told me they were surprised at you sending non family pics of yourself and discussing your body. I saw the pms. I had told you to stop sending me your silly pics. Don't assume strangers are your friends and grow up. Happily married? Yea right. Learn your lesson here and move on. I especially like the line in your pms...you are the only one I am sending these pics too. Lol Grow up. I grew tired of arguing with you in pms. You deserve an Academy award here. You are ridiculous and set all women back 6o years. Your own response is filled with sexist statements and you are clueless. There are many women on LP that I respect tremendously but they have class. Not one of them has ever acted like you.

You were on vacation??? From what??? Time to put you on ignore.

Keep up with your lies because it doesn't mean squat. You wouldn't know anything about being happily married or even being involved in any kind of relationship. You are a sad individual who needs therapy.

Go right ahead and put me on ignore, other LP members are sick and tired of your BS.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 17, 2016

Actually, I think I was close to the next President.  I'm tired.  Good night DEE

Glad you had a good time, I would have been exhausted myself as the climate must have been awesome.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 17, 2016

Why are " you people" afraid to go to CNN?  They actually giving Trump free airtime for claiming that the system is " Rigged."  Any other politician would be shut down in a nano second. CNN is graciously airing this claim- as Don King would say " Only In America." Do you not see that CNN is part of the Rebellion? Oh Wait, my thoughts are overlapping after seeing " Rogue One" on Youtube from StarWars.  Sorry..

I can only watch a few minutes of it before the bias overload kicks in, the same goes for Megyn Kelly which is why I no longer watch her.

bigbear29

General election polls:

 

Hillary   48.9%

trump    41.9%

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 18, 2016

General election polls:

 

Hillary   48.9%

trump    41.9%

One of the regulars on the MSM recently admitted that the polls were cooked in favor of Hillary. You will be extremely disappointed when the final verdict is announced on November 8th or 9th.

dr65's avatardr65

So imagined hacking by the Russians is an attempt to topple the Democrats and get Trump elected, 

then questioning the possibility of voter rigging is totally screwball because it would elect Hillary?

How is that double standard possible and how can Hillary, Obama and the band of idiots say with a

straight face Trump's questions have no merit and don't count? It only counts when it involves the

Witch who wants the White House?

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 18, 2016

So imagined hacking by the Russians is an attempt to topple the Democrats and get Trump elected, 

then questioning the possibility of voter rigging is totally screwball because it would elect Hillary?

How is that double standard possible and how can Hillary, Obama and the band of idiots say with a

straight face Trump's questions have no merit and don't count? It only counts when it involves the

Witch who wants the White House?

I was thinking the same thing....not to mention there are 4 million dead people on the voter rolls....and noone on the left side wants it corrected.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trump rally in Colorado Springs, CO.  Live stream starts in an hour.  He should talk about the newly released FBI emails.

bigbear29

I can't wait for Nov. 8

dr65's avatardr65

I will never get sick of these GreenBay ty!

bigbear29

That is nonsense!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 18, 2016

I will never get sick of these GreenBay ty!

I've been laid-off for awhile but I go back to work on Thursday so I won't be able to post much after that.  Go to youtube and type "rightside broadcasting".  They have live stream video of all up coming Trump rallies, they also have a Trump chat room, its really cool.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 18, 2016

That is nonsense!

Your posts are nonsense bear.  After November 8th are you moving to Canada with the rest of the crazy hollywood libs?  Have a nice trip.

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 17, 2016

You really ought to read the U.S. Constitution.

Amendment XII

The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

If McMullin wins in Utah, he, Clinton and Trump are the three. Pence will not get any votes for President and ineligible using that or any scenario.

Amendment XX

Section 1.

The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.

Forget the odds against neither major party candidate getting 270 electoral votes, the House must vote before noon on January 20.   What makes you think neither Clinton or Trump will get 270 electoral votes?

The 12th Amendment to the US Constitution provides in pertinent part:

...The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall
be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of
Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the
persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of
those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose
immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President,
the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state
having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or
members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states
shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives
shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve
upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the
Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or
other constitutional disability of the President.

The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall
be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number
of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the
two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the
Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of
the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall
be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to
the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of
the United States.
I am trying to understand this scenario correctly.
Scenario:
If neither party ticket receives 270 Electoral votes, then the election passes to the House and Senate.  If the Senate chooses Gov. Mike Pence as Vice President, and the Congress cannot decide on the next new President before January 20, 2017 or by March 4, 2017 [Delay Tactics], then Gov. Mike Pence becomes the new President by default.   Is this correct ???  If so, the next question is, who then becomes the new Vice President ???  Who chooses the new Vice President, if Pence is elevated to President by default ???
If this reasoning for this scenario is not correct, then what is the correct outcome to this scenario ???   What?
bigbear29

No, not moving, but it would be nice to see trump fall on his face trying to fake his way around the oval office.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Oct 18, 2016

The 12th Amendment to the US Constitution provides in pertinent part:

...The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall
be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of
Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the
persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of
those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose
immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President,
the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state
having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or
members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states
shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives
shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve
upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the
Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or
other constitutional disability of the President.

The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall
be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number
of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the
two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the
Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of
the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall
be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to
the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of
the United States.
I am trying to understand this scenario correctly.
Scenario:
If neither party ticket receives 270 Electoral votes, then the election passes to the House and Senate.  If the Senate chooses Gov. Mike Pence as Vice President, and the Congress cannot decide on the next new President before January 20, 2017 or by March 4, 2017 [Delay Tactics], then Gov. Mike Pence becomes the new President by default.   Is this correct ???  If so, the next question is, who then becomes the new Vice President ???  Who chooses the new Vice President, if Pence is elevated to President by default ???
If this reasoning for this scenario is not correct, then what is the correct outcome to this scenario ???   What?

destiny, I think you're over thinking this.  It will either be Trump or Hillary.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 18, 2016

I've been laid-off for awhile but I go back to work on Thursday so I won't be able to post much after that.  Go to youtube and type "rightside broadcasting".  They have live stream video of all up coming Trump rallies, they also have a Trump chat room, its really cool.

Thanks LiveInGreenBay!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 18, 2016

What backup outlet RL-idiot?

We can confirm Ecuador cut off Assange's internet access Saturday, 5pm GMT, shortly after publication of Clinton's Goldman Sachs speechs.

Keywords:  cut off Assange's internet access.

 

Here's more STUPIDITY!  "I would not put it past Obama or Hilda to use nukes to try and stop the information from getting out".  And yes, this is also from RL-idiot!

Being called a idiot by you means nothing.  Do you really think that the only copy is on his server????

Do you think he hacked all that stuff by himself?  Do you think all the people who sent it to him have

deleted their copy?  Come on, brainless nobody is that stupid.  The only way to stop it would be to

shut down the entire intrarnet all over the world.  I guess you have never even heard of the darknet,

deep-web etc...  not to mention the hard copies.   I am still looking for the big bomb shell with the

good stuff to come out soon.   On the election rigging how many non-US citizens will be voting in this

years election for Trump?   Twenty million mexicans are in the US all looking to be deported if Trump is

elected and nothing is being done about it.   

 

I dare you to read this.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/14/icann-internet-control-domain-names-iana

 

P.S. I can also see that your current events mindset need a major upgrade, your living in the past.  Why

don't you do a little research and see for yourself.   I guess your too caught up in the big lie to even check.

Why has Russia called for all Russians to return to the home land?  Stupid is, stupid does. 

RL

bigbear29

Moron, how do you know that he has more copies?  His internet was blocked!  YOU DON'T KNOW!  You are just GUESSING!  JUST GUESSING!

I don't want to waste my time reading your BS!

 

What you really need is some real SCHOOLING!

Please call this school, they can really help you.   Whatsa-Matter-You College

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Oct 18, 2016

Keep up with your lies because it doesn't mean squat. You wouldn't know anything about being happily married or even being involved in any kind of relationship. You are a sad individual who needs therapy.

Go right ahead and put me on ignore, other LP members are sick and tired of your BS.

Actually, I seem to have always had a lot of supporters and from long time members. I have even been thanked by "someone" on occasion. Liar liar pants on fire. Keep working at setting women back who choose not to act like bimbos. I really do need to post some of those emails. You are confused. You remind me of those women on Jerry Springer. College degree??? Lol You seem to want to keep this going but some of us work for a living. Freudians would love to analyze you. My coworkers are  very entertained by your posts and pms. One person laughed so hard, she cried.

bigbear29

Trump is going to look like a buffoon if he can not prove that the election is rigged!

If trump was ahead in the polls, he would not be talking about the elections are rigged.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 18, 2016

Moron, how do you know that he has more copies?  His internet was blocked!  YOU DON'T KNOW!  You are just GUESSING!  JUST GUESSING!

I don't want to waste my time reading your BS!

 

What you really need is some real SCHOOLING!

Please call this school, they can really help you.   Whatsa-Matter-You College

You have no idea what I know, I was using the pre intranet electronic mail before personal computers and the WWW

existed.  I have been programming for almost 30 years now.  Again, you have no idea what your talking about.  Below

is a links you should read.  Just one of many like groups around the world.   They can't get them all.

RL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group)

bigbear29

You have been in software person for 30 years,  if you are blocked, doesn't that mean you can not get anything in or out?   If your software is running on say a computer motherboard and you take out the FPGA chip (say the brain)  what happens to your computer?  Or better yet,  if you unplug your internet cable from your computer, you are unable to communicate with the outside world, right?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Still want Hillary? What great company you keep;

ISIS LEADER CALLS FOR AMERICAN MUSLIM VOTERS TO SUPPORT HILLARY CLINTON
dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 18, 2016

Still want Hillary? What great company you keep;

ISIS LEADER CALLS FOR AMERICAN MUSLIM VOTERS TO SUPPORT HILLARY CLINTON

Take them out. Trump is the man to do it. They want holy war? Get Trump in there and give it to them.

Blast them the he*ll out of their caves and hiding places and put an end to their terror on first their own

people, then their terror on us. None of this tippy toeing around looking like cowards. I for one am sick

of their talk and their cowardly ways. They get what they want by force, that's all they understand is 

killing everyone and anyone who opposes their sick excuse for religion. Now their treacherous hands

are reaching out thousands of miles to intimidate Muslim Americans living here. Hillary's head is probably

so big she can hardly hold it up even with support from ISIS. She will dance around and play games until

there are no moves left. How many more Americans need to die due to ineffective leadership? Hillary is

courting Saudi Arabia and other Middle Eastern countries who could care less about us. Her hands are tied

because she and they are tied to money. ISIS is not to be bargained with, catered to or bowed down to

the only thing they need is to be destroyed. They made a deal with the devil with Iran and thanks to Obama

and Hillary and anyone else who agreed this was a good idea, we are the laughing stock of the terrorist 

world. $1.7 Billion. Expect some of that to come right back at us in bullets, land mines, rpg's and suicide

bombers.

Good move USA...get the current failure-ship OUT and get the REAL leadership IN. GO TRUMP!!!

US Flag

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 18, 2016

You have been in software person for 30 years,  if you are blocked, doesn't that mean you can not get anything in or out?   If your software is running on say a computer motherboard and you take out the FPGA chip (say the brain)  what happens to your computer?  Or better yet,  if you unplug your internet cable from your computer, you are unable to communicate with the outside world, right?

Without destroying the hard drive to the point that not even a small piece of the platter remains there is no

sure way to destroy all the data.   There are some very expensive tools that claim they will remove everything

but the ones I have tested fall short.  When you log onto the internet every thing you have ever typed, searched

downloaded etc... is stored somewhere.   If you use google then you can bet that they know everything, even the

things you have forgotten.   

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 18, 2016

You have been in software person for 30 years,  if you are blocked, doesn't that mean you can not get anything in or out?   If your software is running on say a computer motherboard and you take out the FPGA chip (say the brain)  what happens to your computer?  Or better yet,  if you unplug your internet cable from your computer, you are unable to communicate with the outside world, right?

His files are most likely stored on servers all over the world, I have programs stored on servers and I don't even

know where they are located.  Cutting off his access does nothing as there are thousands of people all over the

world that can or do have access to it. 

RL

dr65's avatardr65

2 Iranian Americans get 10 year prison sentences and fined $4.8 Million. We just paid their rotten

government for prisoners and by doing so, made any nuclear agreement laughable. They only agreed

to get the money and now if anyone in Washington actually thinks there is incentive not to develop

nuclear weapons, they are as nuts as Obama who said it was to prevent them from getting them.

Obama doesn't have a leg to stand on for such petty things as saying Trump is whining. He has

made possibly the worst deal - when we said we would NOT negotiate for hostages - by doing just

that. Having Americans focus on things that do not matter and deflecting attention away from himself

and Hillary is commonplace for this administration. It's sick. Now he's opened the door wide for terrorist

countries to bully at will. Let him stop being arrogant and start at least acting like a President in the time

he has left in office. Farewell to the Chief Clown.

$1.7 Billion could have done lots for THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

  HE's Comming to AMERICA................US Flag to  "VOTE"   

Malik Obama will vote for Trump..this is the hottest "hit" on the NET today. Read it and weep or scratch UR head Bang Head  Kenyan born Malik back in July, 2016 and he actually come to the USA and registered in Maryland as Democrat where he used to work......Recently he expressed his "deep disappointment about the way Director Comey did not prosecute Hillary Clinton despite her "reckless" handling of classified data on her private server. It is simply amazing 

people over the world are more informed on the political affairs of the USA and the people who live here can't even  vote on Psyko's lottery polls which are greatest polls in the world..THERE"R COMMING TO AMERICA."VOTE"      

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 18, 2016

destiny, I think you're over thinking this.  It will either be Trump or Hillary.

Did you see the guy on TV and what he said if Hillary wins. Dead US Flag

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Oct 18, 2016

  HE's Comming to AMERICA................US Flag to  "VOTE"   

Malik Obama will vote for Trump..this is the hottest "hit" on the NET today. Read it and weep or scratch UR head Bang Head  Kenyan born Malik back in July, 2016 and he actually come to the USA and registered in Maryland as Democrat where he used to work......Recently he expressed his "deep disappointment about the way Director Comey did not prosecute Hillary Clinton despite her "reckless" handling of classified data on her private server. It is simply amazing 

people over the world are more informed on the political affairs of the USA and the people who live here can't even  vote on Psyko's lottery polls which are greatest polls in the world..THERE"R COMMING TO AMERICA."VOTE"      

He has a Make America Great Again hat. 

Might be a grudge or he might just mean it. He is not satisfied with how his brother handled things. He said

he didn't help him with his own political career. Obama rubs elbows better with the Washington elite, they can

and do get him places.

bigbear29

Just wondering what is the excitement about Malik Obama and Malik voting for trump?  Trump is bringing him to the debate, for what?  He has no influence over the black vote or no connection to Hillary.  President Obama and Malik are not that close, so I don't get why trump is bringing Malik to the debate.  Most people don't even know who he is.

dr65's avatardr65

Assange's internet cut result of request by John Kerry, Secretary of State...see how they take care of each other?

It would be nice in a family setting or brothers watching each others backs, sisters being there for each other..

but the State Department and the Obama administration and the DNC just take a little bit too much care of

each other and it has nothing to do with personal feelings. It has everything to do with power issues.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Oct 18, 2016

  HE's Comming to AMERICA................US Flag to  "VOTE"   

Malik Obama will vote for Trump..this is the hottest "hit" on the NET today. Read it and weep or scratch UR head Bang Head  Kenyan born Malik back in July, 2016 and he actually come to the USA and registered in Maryland as Democrat where he used to work......Recently he expressed his "deep disappointment about the way Director Comey did not prosecute Hillary Clinton despite her "reckless" handling of classified data on her private server. It is simply amazing 

people over the world are more informed on the political affairs of the USA and the people who live here can't even  vote on Psyko's lottery polls which are greatest polls in the world..THERE"R COMMING TO AMERICA."VOTE"      

Easy Psyko,

You're gonna break your arm patting yourself on your back. LOL.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Trump is bringing him so he can say, "See, Obama's own family doesn't like the Obama- Hillary administration."

bigbear29

Obama is not running for president, so that is a waste of time.  The two worst people running for office.  People are voting for the best of the worst, so that is not going to make a difference who people vote for.  And like I stated before, most people don't even know who Malik Obama is.

bigbear29

Condi Rice responds to report Trump called her a 'bitch' in 2006 : 'Can't wait until November 9!':

Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice responded Tuesday to a resurfaced report from 2006 that Donald Trump called her a "bitch" in a speech, telling CNN's KFile in an email that she "can't wait until November 9!"

"Condoleezza Rice, she's a lovely woman, but I think she's a bitch," Trump said in a speech at the Learning Annex in 2006, according to a story in the New York Daily News covering the event. "She goes around to other countries and other nations, negotiates with their leaders, comes back and nothing ever happens."
Trump's comments were first resurfaced by Deadspin on Tuesday. CNN's KFile was also tipped off to the 2006 comments Tuesday morning. When asked if she had any response to the reported transcript of Trump's remarks, Rice simply wrote back, "Exactly. Can't wait until November 9!"
Rice took aim at Trump earlier this month on her Facebook page following the revelation of his 2005 hot mic comments where he said he could force himself on women.
"Enough! Donald Trump should not be president. He should withdraw," she wrote on her page on October 8.
The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment on his 2006 comments.
Steve Felt, an attendee at the event who was quoted in the New York Daily News report, told CNN's KFile on Tuesday that he remembered Trump's comment about Rice.
"He went on a tirade about politics, probably 15 minutes into his talk about real estate," Felt said. "Most people weren't there to hear about politics and most people left. I left after about 45 minutes."
Trump made numerous speeches in the mid-2000s for the Learning Annex, a company which provides continuing education courses for adults.
And while video doesn't exist of Trump's 2006 comments, which took place at the Javits Center in New York City in November of that year, in another Learning Annex speech from which a partial video was posted online in 2007, Trump appears to make reference to the comment.
The partial video, from a March 2007 speech in Toronto, starts with Trump mid-sentence, saying, "bitch, do you believe this? So I took heat," before he goes onto explain what he had said about Rice.
"But what I said was this, she gets out an airplane cameras all over the place and she waves, 'hi.' She then goes and sits down with some dictator, they put the chairs at 45 degree angle and they have a photo shoot and she waves, 'hi, hi everybody.' She then gets back on the place and she waves again and nothing happens," he said. "Has she made any deals? Honestly, has this woman made one deal that anybody knows, even if it was a bad deal. I'd even take a bad deal. She doesn't make any deals."
Representatives for the Learning Annex and the Javits Center did not respond to requests for comment from CNN's KFile on this story.
Trump was more diplomatic speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer in 2007 on the former secretary of state.
"And Condoleezza Rice, who's a lovely woman, but she never makes a deal," Trump said. She doesn't make deals. She waves. She gets off the plane. She waves. She sits down with some dictator, 45-degree angle. They do the camera shot. She waves again. Gets back on the plane. She waves. No deal ever happens."
bigbear29

The World Doesn’t Think Donald Trump Would Make a Great President, Poll Finds:

Pew poll finds that large majorities in Europe and Asia doubt Trump's ability to do the right thing on world affairs


People across Europe and Asia strongly believe presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump would do a poor job of world affairs as U.S. President, according to new research released by Pew Research Center.

In a survey looking into the public image of the U.S. around the world, Trump inspires little confidence: 85% of the Europeans surveyed doubted Trump’s ability to do the right thing regarding world affairs. Among them, 92% of Swedes and 89% of Germans said they had no confidence in Trump’s ability to handle the international aspect of the presidency. Some 87% of Australians and 82% of Japanese agreed.

The mogul enjoys slightly higher levels of support in China, where only 40% said they had no confidence in his leadership. He also rated comparatively better among European’s Euroskeptic or anti-immigrant parties. In the U.K., 30% of rightwing U.K. Independence Party (UKIP) voters said they had a positive view of Trump. In Germany, people who hold a favorable view of right-wing and anti-refugee party Alternative for Germany (AfD) were more likely to hold confidence in Trump.

The poll showed that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clintoninspired confidence from the majority of countries surveyed. Across the 10 E.U. nations polled, 59% have faith that she will do the right thing in world affairs. Greece was the notable exception, where 78% say they have no confidence in her ability to deal with world affairs.

But neither candidates enjoy the popularity of U.S. President Barack Obama, who received favorable rating on foreign affairs from 77% of Europeans. In 15 of the 16 countries surveyed, majorities expressed confidence in his proficiency when it comes to handling world affairs. The exception, once again, was Greece, where respondents felt Russian President Vladimir Putin was the stronger leader.

Overall, the U.S. enjoys largely positive views around the world. At least 50% of people in every nation surveyed held favorable opinions of the U.S., with higher-than-average ratings in Poland (74%), Italy (72%) and Japan (72%).

The poll was conducted in 10 European nations, four major Asia-Pacific countries, Canada and the U.S.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 18, 2016

Condi Rice responds to report Trump called her a 'bitch' in 2006 : 'Can't wait until November 9!':

Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice responded Tuesday to a resurfaced report from 2006 that Donald Trump called her a "bitch" in a speech, telling CNN's KFile in an email that she "can't wait until November 9!"

"Condoleezza Rice, she's a lovely woman, but I think she's a bitch," Trump said in a speech at the Learning Annex in 2006, according to a story in the New York Daily News covering the event. "She goes around to other countries and other nations, negotiates with their leaders, comes back and nothing ever happens."
Trump's comments were first resurfaced by Deadspin on Tuesday. CNN's KFile was also tipped off to the 2006 comments Tuesday morning. When asked if she had any response to the reported transcript of Trump's remarks, Rice simply wrote back, "Exactly. Can't wait until November 9!"
Rice took aim at Trump earlier this month on her Facebook page following the revelation of his 2005 hot mic comments where he said he could force himself on women.
"Enough! Donald Trump should not be president. He should withdraw," she wrote on her page on October 8.
The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment on his 2006 comments.
Steve Felt, an attendee at the event who was quoted in the New York Daily News report, told CNN's KFile on Tuesday that he remembered Trump's comment about Rice.
"He went on a tirade about politics, probably 15 minutes into his talk about real estate," Felt said. "Most people weren't there to hear about politics and most people left. I left after about 45 minutes."
Trump made numerous speeches in the mid-2000s for the Learning Annex, a company which provides continuing education courses for adults.
And while video doesn't exist of Trump's 2006 comments, which took place at the Javits Center in New York City in November of that year, in another Learning Annex speech from which a partial video was posted online in 2007, Trump appears to make reference to the comment.
The partial video, from a March 2007 speech in Toronto, starts with Trump mid-sentence, saying, "bitch, do you believe this? So I took heat," before he goes onto explain what he had said about Rice.
"But what I said was this, she gets out an airplane cameras all over the place and she waves, 'hi.' She then goes and sits down with some dictator, they put the chairs at 45 degree angle and they have a photo shoot and she waves, 'hi, hi everybody.' She then gets back on the place and she waves again and nothing happens," he said. "Has she made any deals? Honestly, has this woman made one deal that anybody knows, even if it was a bad deal. I'd even take a bad deal. She doesn't make any deals."
Representatives for the Learning Annex and the Javits Center did not respond to requests for comment from CNN's KFile on this story.
Trump was more diplomatic speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer in 2007 on the former secretary of state.
"And Condoleezza Rice, who's a lovely woman, but she never makes a deal," Trump said. She doesn't make deals. She waves. She gets off the plane. She waves. She sits down with some dictator, 45-degree angle. They do the camera shot. She waves again. Gets back on the plane. She waves. No deal ever happens."

I read the NY Daily News every day. There aren't too many more newspapers that are more anti Trump then them. It's very rare for them to print anything bad about Hillary, but they did today. Why don't you post that?

I'm not the only one who feels that way. Just read today's Voice of the People.

bigbear29

Bill O’Reilly to Donald Trump: ‘Stop whining’

To Donald Trump’s fans, he’s a take-no-guff tough guy. To his critics, he’s a skin-thinned crybaby. And at least one Trump-friendly pundit, Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly, wants him to retire the act.

On Monday’s “Late Show with Stephen Colbert,” O’Reilly said the Republican presidential candidate should quit “whining” at the debate and instead focus on a few issues that matter to him. The third and final presidential debate between Trump and Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton is set to take place Wednesday night at the University of Nevada in Las Vegas.

“Stop whining. Stop that and say, ‘Look, I got three things I want to say to you tonight: bang, bang, bang,” O’Reilly told Colbert.

“It’s rigged, it’s rigged, it’s rigged,” the late-night host replied.

“That’s whining,” O’Reilly said. “He should have a little buzzer that whenever he whines — baaa!”

O’Reilly suggested that Trump and Clinton would have a chance to win over voters if they could convince the American people that they can help them. He said his Fox colleague Chris Wallace, who is moderating the debate, should press Trump on the specifics of his various proposals, such as taking oil from ISIS or making Mexico pay for a massive border wall.

Colbert joked that Trump would not answer the question and instead talk about the importance of being tough.

“Here’s what we do,” O’Reilly said. “We have your band, and as soon as he starts that, they start playing. As soon as he starts that stuff, that band starts playing.”

bigbear29

That is your job to post Hillary news, I don't think it is much.  But trump makes it so easy.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 18, 2016

That is your job to post Hillary news, I don't think it is much.  But trump makes it so easy.

Here ya go.

WASHINGTON — A top State Department official allegedly offered the FBI a “quid pro quo” if the agency downgraded the classification of one of the emails on Hillary Clinton’s server, new documents the FBI released Monday show.

According to notes of an internal interview with one of the FBI’s own officials, Undersecretary of State Patrick Kennedy tried last summer to get the FBI to change a classified email to unclassified status, offering to let the FBI put agents in more foreign countries in exchange.

That conversation allegedly happened during the interagency review of Clinton’s emails in preparation for their public release, as the FBI and State Department debated over what information should be withheld from the public.

More than 100 emails were eventually deemed classified after the fact.

  The names of all involved were redacted in the release.

“(Redacted) received a call from (redacted) of the International Operations Division (IOD) of the FBI, who ‘pressured’ him to change the classified email to unclassified. (redacted) indicated he had been contacted by Patrick Kennedy, undersecretary of state, who had asked his assistance in altering the email’s classification in exchange for a ‘quid pro quo,’ ” read the interview notes. “(Redacted) advised that, in exchange for marking the email unclassified, State would reciprocate by allowing the FBI to place more agents in countries where they are presently forbidden.”

An unnamed official alleges that Kennedy followed up this request by asking during a private meeting whether the FBI could “see their way to marking the email unclassified?”

“According to (redacted), Kennedy spent the next 15 minutes debating the classification of the email and attempting to influence the FBI to change its markings.”

 

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump stands next to Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton during the second presidential debate at Washington University in St. Louis on Oct. 9, 2016.
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Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton face off during US presidential debates

That exchange could create another headache for Clinton, who for more than a year has struggled to move beyond questions about her private email server and whether she shared classified information in an unclassified setting.

Donald Trump’s campaign quickly jumped on the news, accusing Clinton of collusion.

“These FBI documents provide undeniable proof that Hillary Clinton colluded with the FBI, (Department of Justice) and State Department to cover up criminal activity at the highest levels,” retired Gen. Michael Flynn, a top surrogate, said in a statement.

But the FBI said in a statement that there was never any “quid pro quo,” clarifying that the FBI officer was actually the one who initially raised the issue of getting Kennedy to allow more FBI officials in foreign countries.

“Any assertion that this was somehow a tit-for-tat or a quid pro quo, or exchange in that manner is, frankly, insulting,” State Department spokesman Michael Toner said.

“It’s very well known that there were disputes between the State Department and other agencies about classification. It’s not unusual,” Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook said.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

National Poll, Trump Leads 67% to 19%. 50,000 polled.

https://youtu.be/zaOoFH8HHrkhttps://youtu.be/zaOoFH8HHrk

bigbear29

REALLY!  National poll from youtube, REALLY!  That is so funny.

Google,  national poll

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 18, 2016

You have no idea what I know, I was using the pre intranet electronic mail before personal computers and the WWW

existed.  I have been programming for almost 30 years now.  Again, you have no idea what your talking about.  Below

is a links you should read.  Just one of many like groups around the world.   They can't get them all.

RL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group)

"You have no idea what I know,"

Nobody cares what you say you know. We're discussing what Trump and Clinton know or don't know.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 19, 2016

REALLY!  National poll from youtube, REALLY!  That is so funny.

Google,  national poll

Speaking of polls, Trump is only up by 4 points in KY probably because Mitch McConnell told him to stop whining about voter fraud.

The good news is Trump said if elected, he would tell Congress to put term limits on their selves. If it comes up in the debate, Clinton can explain how that would take a Constitutional Amendment to him.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 18, 2016

Stack you forget Governor Walker won 2 elections in 3 years.  The left threw everything at his recall and he still won.  All it takes is for the "silent majority" to get pumped up enough to vote, and they are.  I think Trump will take Wisconsin by a narrow margin.

"I think Trump will take Wisconsin by a narrow margin."

Apparently the "silent majority" has remained silent for a very long time because your state voted against both George H.W. and George W. Reagan was the last Republican Wisconsin voted for.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 19, 2016

REALLY!  National poll from youtube, REALLY!  That is so funny.

Google,  national poll

Youtube did not do the poll. Maybe you should just watch it...

No comment about the Daily News story on Hillary?

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

I saw this written on a Facebook page earlier:

Whenever the Washington Redskins win their final home game before a presidential election, the party that currently holds the White House wins. (The lone election since 1936 it didn’t hold true was 2012)

According to this person, that clinches the win for Hillary. I had to point out that their last game prior to the election will be when the 'Skins will play the Bengals in London...and Washington is the home team in the contest. (meaning getting to choose the color uniforms;  the visitors get to call the coin toss)

"THAT GAME DOESN'T COUNT!!!!!!  NOT IN THE FORMULA!!!" was the reply.  I assured him it counted, maybe not in the "formula", but it certainly will count in the standings.  I also had to point out even if it didn't count, maybe the 2012 outlier was the start of a new statistical trend.

bigbear29

Term limits, that's not going to be easy to do.  So if trump gets into office, is he going to executive order everything?

He hates everybody and everybody hates him.

bigbear29

Yes, youtube did not do the poll.  Someone put that on youtube and I did not notice a date.

bigbear29

Hillary is bringing Mark Cuban and Hp ceo Meg Whitman.

dr65's avatardr65

I guess Obama is going to try and take credit for the Iraqi's taking their country back.

dr65's avatardr65

3,000+ murders in Chicago alone this year - What did Obama do? Hillary will do the same thing, nothing.

bigbear29

Trump is not going to do anything about the crime in Chicago.

dr65's avatardr65

Remember this? Bill's association with a pedophile? And what does that have to do with Hillary?

Everything.

At least 5 trips with no secret service and numerous trips on Epstein's planes..upwards of 20+.

She knew. There was a cover-up, there was a deal, there was someone to take the fall...

as long as it wasn't the Clinton's.

So what they're doing here is digging up dirt on Trump and making that main focus while just hoping

what's in the past on their own raunchy records, stays in the past.

Things like this show how above the law they think they are, it's stomach turning. So it's okay for Bill

to have been associated with this billionaire pedophile and they want to make some comments by Trump

the only news that counts. 

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/13/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known.html

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 19, 2016

3,000+ murders in Chicago alone this year - What did Obama do? Hillary will do the same thing, nothing.

  That's pretty sad when the President of the United States doesn't care about crime in his own state.. Just goes to show you Obama doesn't care about anyone else but himself.. all he's doing right now is riding it out till he's out of office.. he's knows he can't run again so why bother doing anything for the people except for his family.. and Hillary will go down the same path... some of her Secret Service men have left Hillary cause they can't stand the way she treats them... she doesn't let them do their job the way they should... and in the mean time everyone is being put at risk cause of her...

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 19, 2016

  That's pretty sad when the President of the United States doesn't care about crime in his own state.. Just goes to show you Obama doesn't care about anyone else but himself.. all he's doing right now is riding it out till he's out of office.. he's knows he can't run again so why bother doing anything for the people except for his family.. and Hillary will go down the same path... some of her Secret Service men have left Hillary cause they can't stand the way she treats them... she doesn't let them do their job the way they should... and in the mean time everyone is being put at risk cause of her...

" some of her Secret Service men have left Hillary cause they can't stand the way she treats them"

she doesn't let them do their job the way they should.." ..BS You make it sound as though the secret service can do what they want, appoint themselves to protect someone and then " decide" on their own that they no longer going to do that and relinquish that duty?  What drug are you on, or have decided not to take anymore?

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 19, 2016

" some of her Secret Service men have left Hillary cause they can't stand the way she treats them"

she doesn't let them do their job the way they should.." ..BS You make it sound as though the secret service can do what they want, appoint themselves to protect someone and then " decide" on their own that they no longer going to do that and relinquish that duty?  What drug are you on, or have decided not to take anymore?

   Oh..Lord... here I go again with you... well if you would have listen to the news yesterday you would have heard the whole segment that they had about this issue... well smarty pants... maybe you should enlighten all of us just what the Secret Service are suppose to do... since you seem to know every da**mmm thing and pick apart EVERYTHING when someone post... and than to come on here and ask me what kind of drugs I am on ..... I don't take drugs and to come on here and even say something like that to me is just WRONG!!!  unless you have PROOF that I am taking drugs I wouldn't say anything like that to me or anyone... So from now on unless I REPLY back to your post ( which I WILL NOT!!!)  DON'T POST TO ME AGAIN... I was not posting to you...

bigbear29

Anti-Semitic Posts, Many From Trump Supporters, Surge on Twitter:

She had seen her face superimposed on the body of a concentration camp inmate. She had been called “a slimy Jewess.” She had been told she “deserved the oven.” One anonymous individual had electronically harassed her for 19 hours straight.

Things got so bad that Bethany Mandel, a 30-year-old freelance writer in Highland Park, N.J., decided one afternoon last spring to drive to a nearby gun shop. A mother of two small children, she now keeps a .22 in her home.

What had she done to provoke so much vitriol? She posted some messages on Twitter drawing attention to the fact that Donald J. Trump seemed to have a lot of anti-Semitic supporters.

In some respects, Mrs. Mandel’s story has become a familiar one. She is among hundreds of Jewish journalists who have been the target of anti-Semitic attacks on Twitter during the 2016 presidential campaign, according to a new report by the Anti-Defamation League.

Anti-Semitism has been resurgent in Europe for years. But it has taken on a new dimension in the United States with the emergence of the Trump campaign, whose battle against political correctness has provided a kind of on-ramp for bigotry to enter the political mainstream.

During its investigation, the organization found that 2.6 million anti-Semitic messages were posted on Twitter from August 2015 to July 2016. Of those, 19,253 were directed at journalists.

There was a significant uptick starting early this year, when the presidential campaign began to intensify, the organization said in its report, to be released on Wednesday. More than 800 journalists have been the subject of anti-Semitic attacks on Twitter, with 10 of them receiving 83 percent of the total attacks.

The words appearing most frequently in the Twitter biographies of the attackers were “Trump,” “nationalist,” “conservative” and “white.” Many of the owners of the 1,600 Twitter accounts were anonymous, though at least two are prominent white supremacists: Andrew Anglin, the founder of the website The Daily Stormer, and Lee Rogers of the Infostormer.

The report was careful not to suggest that the Trump campaign “supported or endorsed” the anti-Semitic attacks, but noted that many had been sent by his supporters.

But some of the targets said that by evoking hostility toward minorities, Mr. Trump’s campaign had inspired and emboldened white nationalists and others to engage in acts of digital aggression toward “others” — including Jews — and toward Jewish journalists in particular.

“The best analogy I can give is that the campaign turned over a rock and a lot of stuff began crawling out from under it,”

noise-gate

Stop with the freaking Lies, especially about the work of secret agents. My brother's work involves the agency you Moron.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

That has been ongoing and yet the MSM will continue to cover for her. Corruption is out of control and half the population is either fine with it or just totally uninformed...I would venture to guess it's the latter.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 18, 2016

Actually, I seem to have always had a lot of supporters and from long time members. I have even been thanked by "someone" on occasion. Liar liar pants on fire. Keep working at setting women back who choose not to act like bimbos. I really do need to post some of those emails. You are confused. You remind me of those women on Jerry Springer. College degree??? Lol You seem to want to keep this going but some of us work for a living. Freudians would love to analyze you. My coworkers are  very entertained by your posts and pms. One person laughed so hard, she cried.

You are having diarrhea of the mouth once again. Please go take your meds and continue playing with your crayons.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 18, 2016

Assange's internet cut result of request by John Kerry, Secretary of State...see how they take care of each other?

It would be nice in a family setting or brothers watching each others backs, sisters being there for each other..

but the State Department and the Obama administration and the DNC just take a little bit too much care of

each other and it has nothing to do with personal feelings. It has everything to do with power issues.

I Agree!The Ecuador embassy is doing all they can to appease relations with Obama and a gesture of goodwill was obliging to Kerry's request.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 19, 2016

Stop with the freaking Lies, especially about the work of secret agents. My brother's work involves the agency you Moron.

Yea so?  Good for your brother noise.  Here's what a secret service agent says about his personal experience with Hillary. 

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Oct 19, 2016

You are having diarrhea of the mouth once again. Please go take your meds and continue playing with your crayons.

Brilliant as usual. Tell me again how lp pms are private. You have to be over 70 or under 13. Tell me about slander again. You make my lunch amusing for multiple people. Go back to trying to pick up men.

bigbear29

Gary Byrne's Anti-Clinton Book Is Contradicted By His Own Testimony, And He Can't Explain It:

Former Secret Service officer Gary Byrne, who served in the West Wing during the Clinton administration, recently released Crisis of Character, an anti-Clinton book purporting to warn the country about how Hillary Clinton does not have the temperament to serve as president. In promoting his book, Byrne has repeatedly stumbled through contradictions in his various accounts of the events he claims to have witnessed, with key details differing between his 1998 sworn testimony in the Kenneth Starr investigation, the book itself, and the various appearances he has made in right-wing media.

Former Secret Service Officer Gary Byrne Released Anti-Clinton Conspiracy Book, Crisis Of Character,Was Immediately Denounced By Experts.

Former Secret Service Officials “Strongly Denounce” Book, Saying Byrne Has “Underlying Motives” And Was “Inflating His Role.” Before the book’s official release, the nonpartisan Association of Former Agents of the U.S. Secret Service released an uncharacteristic public statement in which it “strongly denounce[d]” Byrne’s book. The statement suggested Byrne has “underlying motives” for writing the book, and questioned “the veracity and content of any book which implies that its author played such an integral part of so many incidents.” Politico noted in its reporting on the statement that:

The book has rankled current and former members of the Secret Service, who don’t like anyone airing their business in public — but who also take issue with Byrne inflating his role. Byrne was a uniformed officer in Bill Clinton’s White House. But that’s the lowest level of protection within the White House and around the president.

People familiar with West Wing security laugh at the idea that Byrne or any uniformed officer ever would have walked in on Bill Clinton anywhere, whether in a meeting or, as a New York Post article over the weekend claims, in the middle of a make-out session in the Map Room with the late daughter of former Vice President Walter Mondale. The Secret Service presidential detail would have stopped him.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 19, 2016

   Oh..Lord... here I go again with you... well if you would have listen to the news yesterday you would have heard the whole segment that they had about this issue... well smarty pants... maybe you should enlighten all of us just what the Secret Service are suppose to do... since you seem to know every da**mmm thing and pick apart EVERYTHING when someone post... and than to come on here and ask me what kind of drugs I am on ..... I don't take drugs and to come on here and even say something like that to me is just WRONG!!!  unless you have PROOF that I am taking drugs I wouldn't say anything like that to me or anyone... So from now on unless I REPLY back to your post ( which I WILL NOT!!!)  DON'T POST TO ME AGAIN... I was not posting to you...

I Agree!

Hillary lost Secret Service because she's a rotten witch with a behind the camera persona which includes

a filthy mouth, no class, no respect and no dignity. She's a witch by all definition, look at her face, she doesn't

even have to open her big mouth. She's about as arrogant as you can get. When Bill told the Marine who served

8 years for his country and did 2 tours in Iraq to sit down because he wanted the truth about Benghazi, it shows

you what type of couple they are..they were made for each other. Everyone who supports them is okay

with the people behind the mask and are so gullible as to be led on, lied to and used for their vote that they

are ignoring everything they hear that should put these scum of the earth out of public sight forever. Lies to 

Congress, the FBI, the American public, taking dirty money from ME countries while working for the State Dept.

White House escapades, email scandals, hush money, big donations pay for play, secret speeches for Sachs she

didn't want anyone to see, a long list of people dead who knew things and were ready to testify but met their

demise before they could, Haiti disgrace, big money for mining in Africa, payments and favors to special interests,

fraud and criminal actions associated with their Clinton Foundation, cover-ups and constant position changes on

matters over the years to be counted in on whatever gets her the most favorable opinion and most importantly 

votes. 

Who in their right mind can back Hillary? Anyone that is isn't absorbing and refuses to listen to what is right smack

in their faces. They are avoiding the real issues because they have all sold out for a dirty, corrupt, thieving criminal

called Hillary Clinton.

http://time.com/4466911/hillary-clinton-email-excuses/ 

http://theduran.com/us-state-department-officials-begin-covering-up-hillarys-pay-to-play-clinton-foundation-scandal/ 

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/08/24/pay-play-hillary-hosted-dinner-foundation-donors-including-alleged-iran-sanctions-violator/ 

She is the Wicked Witch. Debate tonight. I hope Trump doesn't let her divert attention away from the answers we all

need.

Go Trump!

bigbear29

Blatant Contradictions In Byrne’s Supposed Eyewitness Accounts Surfaced Before The Book’s Release:

BuzzFeed Outlined How Byrne’s Claims Were “Contradicted By His Own Testimony”; Byrne Responded By Hanging Up On The Reporter. BuzzFeed News reporter Chris Massie outlined two instances in which claims Byrne makes in his book are directly at odds with his sworn testimony from the 1998 Kenneth Starr investigation. In Crisis of Character, Byrne writes about how he was personally involved with disposing of hand towels containing evidence that implicated President Clinton in an extramarital affair. Massie reported that, contrary to what Byrne detailed in his book, he testified he was “not involved” in disposing of the president’s hand towels nor did he explicitly or conclusively discuss it with the White House steward at the time. Byrne also claimed in the book that he had personally witnessed President Clinton kissing journalist Eleanor Mondale; in his 1998 testimony, Byrne framed the incident as “a rumor” he had heard. When BuzzFeed contacted him about the contradictions, Byrne hung up on a reporter and his spokesperson promised Byrne would explain the contradictions in book tour appearances.

ary Byrne, a former Secret Service agent who worked in Bill Clinton’s White House, tells a dramatic story in his upcoming book about how he personally helped a White House steward dispose of towels stained by semen and lipstick to protect the president from a sex scandal.

That story, as well as another Byrne tells about walking in on Bill Clinton making out with a TV journalist, is different from what he told investigators from Kenneth Starr’s Office of the Independent Counsel in 1998, a BuzzFeed News review of interviews, depositions, and grand jury testimony has found.

Reached by BuzzFeed News on Tuesday, a spokesperson for Gary Byrne said that the author “will happily explain the alleged issues cited in this article when he begins his book tour - as well as his repeated efforts to protect the president from his personal misconduct and in some cases from his wife.” After a series of follow-up questions, the spokesperson did not clarify why Byrne could not explain the discrepancies on Tuesday.

Byrne himself hung up the phone on a BuzzFeed reporter after being asked why he wouldn’t explain the discrepancies, saying “I am working on a response to a couple things right now and I don’t have time to talk on the phone for one.” Reached again, he said, “We’ve taken care of it and you’ll just have to see what it is when you read the whole book

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Here's another secret service agent Dan Bongino talking about his personal experience with Hillary Clinton.  "She's a lying criminal".

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 19, 2016

I Agree!

Hillary lost Secret Service because she's a rotten witch with a behind the camera persona which includes

a filthy mouth, no class, no respect and no dignity. She's a witch by all definition, look at her face, she doesn't

even have to open her big mouth. She's about as arrogant as you can get. When Bill told the Marine who served

8 years for his country and did 2 tours in Iraq to sit down because he wanted the truth about Benghazi, it shows

you what type of couple they are..they were made for each other. Everyone who supports them is okay

with the people behind the mask and are so gullible as to be led on, lied to and used for their vote that they

are ignoring everything they hear that should put these scum of the earth out of public sight forever. Lies to 

Congress, the FBI, the American public, taking dirty money from ME countries while working for the State Dept.

White House escapades, email scandals, hush money, big donations pay for play, secret speeches for Sachs she

didn't want anyone to see, a long list of people dead who knew things and were ready to testify but met their

demise before they could, Haiti disgrace, big money for mining in Africa, payments and favors to special interests,

fraud and criminal actions associated with their Clinton Foundation, cover-ups and constant position changes on

matters over the years to be counted in on whatever gets her the most favorable opinion and most importantly 

votes. 

Who in their right mind can back Hillary? Anyone that is isn't absorbing and refuses to listen to what is right smack

in their faces. They are avoiding the real issues because they have all sold out for a dirty, corrupt, thieving criminal

called Hillary Clinton.

http://time.com/4466911/hillary-clinton-email-excuses/ 

http://theduran.com/us-state-department-officials-begin-covering-up-hillarys-pay-to-play-clinton-foundation-scandal/ 

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/08/24/pay-play-hillary-hosted-dinner-foundation-donors-including-alleged-iran-sanctions-violator/ 

She is the Wicked Witch. Debate tonight. I hope Trump doesn't let her divert attention away from the answers we all

need.

Go Trump!

What a great post dr65.  The best thing that could happen is this witch sees the four walls of a jail cell and is stripped of her ill gotten gains and that phoney "Foundation" shut down.  But thieves will always find ways to bypass rules and laws.

VOTE TRUMP AND SAVE AMERICA.

bigbear29

Dan Bongino is nothing but a republican!

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 19, 2016

Yea so?  Good for your brother noise.  Here's what a secret service agent says about his personal experience with Hillary. 

How many other  agents have written a book about other presidents? How about that book about Reagan being propped up for all kinds of events? I take all of these so called ex agents words with a grain of salt. Just because someone can write his or her memoirs does not make them true. Oh my, l forgot this guy went on Foxnews, did he make an appearance on any of the other networks and push his book?- just asking Wis.

* Something else: majority of these folk who go on to write books & l am speaking especially about males is that they are afraid of taking orders from a female- sometimes it's just that plain and simple. They think women should be at home raising the kids.

noise-gate

Perhaps demonic forces stepped in to stop the crap.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 19, 2016

Here's another secret service agent Dan Bongino talking about his personal experience with Hillary Clinton.  "She's a lying criminal".

Another ex agent whose afraid of women. Do these guys seriously expect the public to make up their minds in voting for a candidate based on what they say?  If that were true Trump would not be getting folk sticking to him because of the video of him & billy bush. People would run away from him based on that alone, but he has Millions, including yourself who have brushed that aside. You know why?  cause people are not that stupid.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 19, 2016

REALLY!  National poll from youtube, REALLY!  That is so funny.

Google,  national poll

double b

You should be careful about what you say against anonymous.

Wikileaks most likely received the emails from anonymous. 

RL

bigbear29

What are you talking about???  What have I said about anonymous?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

You just mocked and made fun of the poll they ran.

RL

kreative1's avatarkreative1

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 19, 2016

Brilliant as usual. Tell me again how lp pms are private. You have to be over 70 or under 13. Tell me about slander again. You make my lunch amusing for multiple people. Go back to trying to pick up men.

How about Todd's rules or do you feel you are above them? For someone who talks a lot about him sending people to the no avatar land it looks like that is where you should be heading.

No personal attacks.Criticize ideas, not people.  Flaming will not be tolerated.  This includes any material which is vulgar, defamatory, inaccurate, harassing, hateful, threatening, invading of others' privacy, sexually-oriented, or violates any laws.

Respect the privacy of others.Do not post others' e-mail addresses, phone numbers, addresses, pictures, or other personally identifying information, without their permission.

bigbear29

What?  RL you need to take your meds now.

One, who gets their national polls from youtube?

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Boy i sure can't wait until tonight to watch the TV this is going to be so exciting, Hyper

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Oct 19, 2016

Boy i sure can't wait until tonight to watch the TV this is going to be so exciting, Hyper

Should be an interesting debate.  Chris Wallace is one of the few honest journalists out there.

http://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/wrestling-fight-donald-trump-vs-hillary-clinton-gif-animation.gif

bigbear29

ARAZONA

Hillary =  39%

 

trump =  34%

 

DANG!

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 19, 2016

ARAZONA

Hillary =  39%

 

trump =  34%

 

DANG!

bigbear, The guy on Fox news said you can't go buy what the media saying No Nod

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Poopbear will discount FOX news too.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 19, 2016

Should be an interesting debate.  Chris Wallace is one of the few honest journalists out there.

http://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/wrestling-fight-donald-trump-vs-hillary-clinton-gif-animation.gif

hahahahahahahahahahahhahaa too funny

 

Green laugh

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 19, 2016

hahahahahahahahahahahhahaa too funny

 

Green laugh

That was an animated gif but its not working.  After that scene Trump kicks her out of the ring.  Now that was funny.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Yes, saw where Trump kicked her through the ring and knocked someone else down.

On reply to your post the animation came up.

It is very funny.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 19, 2016

Should be an interesting debate.  Chris Wallace is one of the few honest journalists out there.

http://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/wrestling-fight-donald-trump-vs-hillary-clinton-gif-animation.gif

Now that is funny Wis. However she is going to mop the floor with him. This being the last debate his getting swept up with all the confetti . All in honesty, if Trump was going to be the " comeback kid" his numbers should have been rising two weeks ago. Word on the street is that he can't get above 40%..hmm, l wonder why that is? 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 19, 2016

Now that is funny Wis. However she is going to mop the floor with him. This being the last debate his getting swept up with all the confetti . All in honesty, if Trump was going to be the " comeback kid" his numbers should have been rising two weeks ago. Word on the street is that he can't get above 40%..hmm, l wonder why that is? 

Tell me that tomorrow noise.

bigbear29

And you got that from Fox media?

bigbear29

"bigbear, The guy on Fox news said you can't go buy what the media saying"

 

So what is Fox news, mmmmmmmmmmm, OH, media.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 19, 2016

"bigbear, The guy on Fox news said you can't go buy what the media saying"

 

So what is Fox news, mmmmmmmmmmm, OH, media.

I'm sure he's talking about the Crooked Media, Fox News has no reason to be Crooked.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 19, 2016

Tell me that tomorrow noise.

Tell you want, that his suddenly above 40%?

Doubtful unless it's coming from a select few reporters that are in denial. There is no scenario out there where he is Truly winning the presidency. I just can't see it and l am being honest with you, it's downright awful when you think of it. I mean here was a man that took out not only Jeb, Cruz, Perry- solid republicans and he gets stopped in his tracks by a woman? That's got to hurt not only him, but his flock as well. Come to think of it, this would be the ultimate " Crown of shame" he would have to wear for the rest of his life. Hillary could finally use his famous words on him " You Fired."  Oh the Horror.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Oct 19, 2016

I'm sure he's talking about the Crooked Media, Fox News has no reason to be Crooked.

When I was at the Green Bay rally,  before Trump came on stage, the entire crowd turned to the cameras and yelled... "Tell the truth".  This lasted for 5 minutes.  Believe me, we know.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 19, 2016

Tell you want, that his suddenly above 40%?

Doubtful unless it's coming from a select few reporters that are in denial. There is no scenario out there where he is Truly winning the presidency. I just can't see it and l am being honest with you, it's downright awful when you think of it. I mean here was a man that took out not only Jeb, Cruz, Perry- solid republicans and he gets stopped in his tracks by a woman? That's got to hurt not only him, but his flock as well. Come to think of it, this would be the ultimate " Crown of shame" he would have to wear for the rest of his life. Hillary could finally use his famous words on him " You Fired."  Oh the Horror.

So if Trump is elected President will there be riots in San Francisco?  Let me know ahead of time, I'll get the popcorn ready.  This is going to be fun.

dr65's avatardr65

wow..tried to click the link and it shows up bad link..the handing over of control of the internet by Obama in its

glory no doubt.

Censorship will be common place now.

Thank the real communists.

And thank the real American by voting for him on November 8th.

Go Trump!!

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 19, 2016

Now that is funny Wis. However she is going to mop the floor with him. This being the last debate his getting swept up with all the confetti . All in honesty, if Trump was going to be the " comeback kid" his numbers should have been rising two weeks ago. Word on the street is that he can't get above 40%..hmm, l wonder why that is? 

Brainwashed sad little sell out.

He wasn't swept up before, why start now?

Word on the street is Hillary is going to jail.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 19, 2016

Brainwashed sad little sell out.

He wasn't swept up before, why start now?

Word on the street is Hillary is going to jail.

What's amazing to me is that, with everything we know about Hillary Clinton, people still support her?  Stalin used to call them "useful idiots".

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by kreative1 on Oct 19, 2016

How about Todd's rules or do you feel you are above them? For someone who talks a lot about him sending people to the no avatar land it looks like that is where you should be heading.

No personal attacks.Criticize ideas, not people.  Flaming will not be tolerated.  This includes any material which is vulgar, defamatory, inaccurate, harassing, hateful, threatening, invading of others' privacy, sexually-oriented, or violates any laws.

Respect the privacy of others.Do not post others' e-mail addresses, phone numbers, addresses, pictures, or other personally identifying information, without their permission.

As the primary target of many of Artist77 childish personal attacks, because of the subject matter, it's somewhat expected. And I believe it's expected because Trump said he "love the poorly educated", so after calling a Trump supporter poorly educated, they are only responding in kind. But most of Artist's attacks are nasty, down right vicious, and not even closely related to the topic.

"invading of others' privacy"

Talking about having photos showing another members children wearing bathing suits has no place in a lottery message board or any other forum.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 19, 2016

wow..tried to click the link and it shows up bad link..the handing over of control of the internet by Obama in its

glory no doubt.

Censorship will be common place now.

Thank the real communists.

And thank the real American by voting for him on November 8th.

Go Trump!!

Sorry dr65, I pulled a poopbear and cut and pasted the writeup and that is how it came out.  It wasnt a link.

Here is the youtube link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNPj9T-yYAY

You know my internet has been really very bad lately and was wondering if it had to do with our wonderful president giving away OUR internet.  Our rights are slipping away day by day thanks to our head socialist and if possible I think Hilly will be worse.

VOTE TRUMP AND SAVE OUR COUNTRY!

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 19, 2016

Brainwashed sad little sell out.

He wasn't swept up before, why start now?

Word on the street is Hillary is going to jail.

Jail is exactly where she belongs, NOT back in the White House where she can steal it blind and run America further into the ground, the THIEF.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 19, 2016

As the primary target of many of Artist77 childish personal attacks, because of the subject matter, it's somewhat expected. And I believe it's expected because Trump said he "love the poorly educated", so after calling a Trump supporter poorly educated, they are only responding in kind. But most of Artist's attacks are nasty, down right vicious, and not even closely related to the topic.

"invading of others' privacy"

Talking about having photos showing another members children wearing bathing suits has no place in a lottery message board or any other forum.

Twister is twisting again... TRUMP SAID "WE WON THE YOUNG.  WE WON THE OLD.  WE WON WITH HIGHLY EDUCATED.  WE WON WITH POORLY EDUCATED.  I LOVE THE POORLY EDUCATED". 

Why don't you stop twisting the truth?  Typical democrat liberal.  When did Hillary say she loved anyone?  Post a link.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 19, 2016

Tell you want, that his suddenly above 40%?

Doubtful unless it's coming from a select few reporters that are in denial. There is no scenario out there where he is Truly winning the presidency. I just can't see it and l am being honest with you, it's downright awful when you think of it. I mean here was a man that took out not only Jeb, Cruz, Perry- solid republicans and he gets stopped in his tracks by a woman? That's got to hurt not only him, but his flock as well. Come to think of it, this would be the ultimate " Crown of shame" he would have to wear for the rest of his life. Hillary could finally use his famous words on him " You Fired."  Oh the Horror.

The polls are biased and I think the the DNC is more corrupt than Hilda.  I can't understand why there is 

anyone still willing to vote for Hilda.  We should not pay attention to the emails because they are stolen.

It's not that they are not true it's because they want their hidden agenda to remain hidden until they can

gain control.   Trump may have some really bad faults but he is not planning to take over. 

 

Fox news is playing both sides of the fence, bill O'Reilly is a political correctness piece of crap.  Hannity may

be a Trump zealot but at least he's is getting information out.  The supreme court should be increased to 10

Justices which includes 5 from each party.  Each party of Congress would select the Justices and the President

would have nothing to do with the process.   Each party could change Justices in the event that they dishonor

the parties root goals.   This would force all involved to work together for everyone. 

RL

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 19, 2016

Sorry dr65, I pulled a poopbear and cut and pasted the writeup and that is how it came out.  It wasnt a link.

Here is the youtube link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNPj9T-yYAY

You know my internet has been really very bad lately and was wondering if it had to do with our wonderful president giving away OUR internet.  Our rights are slipping away day by day thanks to our head socialist and if possible I think Hilly will be worse.

VOTE TRUMP AND SAVE OUR COUNTRY!

WOW..how obvious is THAT!? Ty for posting the working link Banana but I'm not saying sorry for crying censorship, that's

exactly where we are headed. 

Cut right off and the anchor didn't do such a good acting job over losing him either..

Did you read the comments below the video? Someone said: am I going to be the first one to call out the fact that digital

signals don't use that color test screen anymore..Skeptical Yea, he's got a point..

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by kreative1 on Oct 19, 2016

How about Todd's rules or do you feel you are above them? For someone who talks a lot about him sending people to the no avatar land it looks like that is where you should be heading.

No personal attacks.Criticize ideas, not people.  Flaming will not be tolerated.  This includes any material which is vulgar, defamatory, inaccurate, harassing, hateful, threatening, invading of others' privacy, sexually-oriented, or violates any laws.

Respect the privacy of others.Do not post others' e-mail addresses, phone numbers, addresses, pictures, or other personally identifying information, without their permission.

Thank you! Artist77 thinks she's above the law and needs to realize this is a forum to exchange ideas as well as providing constructive critism and not abusing others personally.

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 19, 2016

Should be an interesting debate.  Chris Wallace is one of the few honest journalists out there.

http://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/wrestling-fight-donald-trump-vs-hillary-clinton-gif-animation.gif

That is hilarious as I'm still chuckling!

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 19, 2016

WOW..how obvious is THAT!? Ty for posting the working link Banana but I'm not saying sorry for crying censorship, that's

exactly where we are headed. 

Cut right off and the anchor didn't do such a good acting job over losing him either..

Did you read the comments below the video? Someone said: am I going to be the first one to call out the fact that digital

signals don't use that color test screen anymore..Skeptical Yea, he's got a point..

YW, VERY obvious imo.

I always read the comments because it shows me how very divided we are as a country and is pretty scary.  It also shows the hostility of the supporters, mainly liberal, not all but I find most of the egregious messages are from liberals.  Not sure if they are trying to infuriate others or go for the shock value.  I can say some are pretty heinous.

You know, when I saw that test pattern I was thinking I havent seen that in years.

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 19, 2016

The polls are biased and I think the the DNC is more corrupt than Hilda.  I can't understand why there is 

anyone still willing to vote for Hilda.  We should not pay attention to the emails because they are stolen.

It's not that they are not true it's because they want their hidden agenda to remain hidden until they can

gain control.   Trump may have some really bad faults but he is not planning to take over. 

 

Fox news is playing both sides of the fence, bill O'Reilly is a political correctness piece of crap.  Hannity may

be a Trump zealot but at least he's is getting information out.  The supreme court should be increased to 10

Justices which includes 5 from each party.  Each party of Congress would select the Justices and the President

would have nothing to do with the process.   Each party could change Justices in the event that they dishonor

the parties root goals.   This would force all involved to work together for everyone. 

RL

So true! I have seen several reports on how many of these so called "polls" are being laid out and references of cooking the polls have been exposed.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 19, 2016

YW, VERY obvious imo.

I always read the comments because it shows me how very divided we are as a country and is pretty scary.  It also shows the hostility of the supporters, mainly liberal, not all but I find most of the egregious messages are from liberals.  Not sure if they are trying to infuriate others or go for the shock value.  I can say some are pretty heinous.

You know, when I saw that test pattern I was thinking I havent seen that in years.

That test pattern is being sent out, ie broadcasted.  I guess it could be a signal from a backup system but the

timing was perfect.  IMHO, the problem, if there was one, was man made.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Maybe the FCC will investigate but don't hold your breath. 

RL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 19, 2016

So if Trump is elected President will there be riots in San Francisco?  Let me know ahead of time, I'll get the popcorn ready.  This is going to be fun.

For one : l don't live in SF, can't stand the place if truth be told. No parking to be found, meter maids doing their ridiculous ride around the blocks and issuing tickets.lts a jungle. Panhandlers EVERYWHERE. So no rioting there. The "if" Trump is elected statement  of yours shows "hesitancy." But jokes aside, there is nothing Trump can do tonight unless he comes into the debate with a list of the names of people that were ordered killed by you know who, it's all over.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 19, 2016

Tell you want, that his suddenly above 40%?

Doubtful unless it's coming from a select few reporters that are in denial. There is no scenario out there where he is Truly winning the presidency. I just can't see it and l am being honest with you, it's downright awful when you think of it. I mean here was a man that took out not only Jeb, Cruz, Perry- solid republicans and he gets stopped in his tracks by a woman? That's got to hurt not only him, but his flock as well. Come to think of it, this would be the ultimate " Crown of shame" he would have to wear for the rest of his life. Hillary could finally use his famous words on him " You Fired."  Oh the Horror.

When somebody suggests states like Minnesota and Wisconsin both with long histories of voting for the Democrat nominee can magically vote Republican in this election, it should be obvious why they believe Trump has ten point leads everywhere. And when he loses, they will blame it on election fraud they can't prove and the media bias for showing the Access Hollywood tapes.

"I mean here was a man that took out not only Jeb, Cruz, Perry- solid republicans and he gets stopped in his tracks by a woman?"

When it became apparent that Clinton would get the nomination, I thought it would be difficult for even a Republican that most of the party liked to win because of the women vote. But after the Bllly Bush interview, it now looks impossible.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 19, 2016

Brainwashed sad little sell out.

He wasn't swept up before, why start now?

Word on the street is Hillary is going to jail.

No Secretary of State has ever been sent to prison. Was Colin Powell sent to prison for faulty info plunging the United States into a war in Afghanistan or Iraq, recall that he went before the UN l think with his vials and said " this is the stuff we need to stop being dispensed to terrorists?".. Only to send our precious Sons & Daughters into battle to lose their lives? How is it that no one ended up in prison? Yet here we are having one hearing after another in attempt to nail Clinton to the wall for  what again? Btw- how many hearing were held for that screw up? Would you be kind enough to tell the audience and you call me brainwashed?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

It's evident that your knowledge of the DNC corruption is lacking.  Look into Soros and his company

which supplies voting machines.  If Trump owned this business this company you would be screaming

foul.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/18/soros-connected-company-provides-voting-machines-in-16-states/

RL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 19, 2016

Twister is twisting again... TRUMP SAID "WE WON THE YOUNG.  WE WON THE OLD.  WE WON WITH HIGHLY EDUCATED.  WE WON WITH POORLY EDUCATED.  I LOVE THE POORLY EDUCATED". 

Why don't you stop twisting the truth?  Typical democrat liberal.  When did Hillary say she loved anyone?  Post a link.

When I quote Trump saying "I love the poorly educated" you call it twisting the truth. What do you call it when you just quoted Trump saying the very same thing?

Seriously, I doubt you need to prove you're poorly educated so Trump will say he loves you; Trump loves all his supporters and apparently what he calls "better looking women" more.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 19, 2016

The polls are biased and I think the the DNC is more corrupt than Hilda.  I can't understand why there is 

anyone still willing to vote for Hilda.  We should not pay attention to the emails because they are stolen.

It's not that they are not true it's because they want their hidden agenda to remain hidden until they can

gain control.   Trump may have some really bad faults but he is not planning to take over. 

 

Fox news is playing both sides of the fence, bill O'Reilly is a political correctness piece of crap.  Hannity may

be a Trump zealot but at least he's is getting information out.  The supreme court should be increased to 10

Justices which includes 5 from each party.  Each party of Congress would select the Justices and the President

would have nothing to do with the process.   Each party could change Justices in the event that they dishonor

the parties root goals.   This would force all involved to work together for everyone. 

RL

The polls are only biased when your candidate is losing. But take courage: This too shall pass.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 19, 2016

When I quote Trump saying "I love the poorly educated" you call it twisting the truth. What do you call it when you just quoted Trump saying the very same thing?

Seriously, I doubt you need to prove you're poorly educated so Trump will say he loves you; Trump loves all his supporters and apparently what he calls "better looking women" more.

Everyone here knows what you are.  Twisting quotes won't help you.  I already proved my case.  And you?  Answer my question... When did Hillary ever say she loved anyone?  Other than herself.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 19, 2016

For one : l don't live in SF, can't stand the place if truth be told. No parking to be found, meter maids doing their ridiculous ride around the blocks and issuing tickets.lts a jungle. Panhandlers EVERYWHERE. So no rioting there. The "if" Trump is elected statement  of yours shows "hesitancy." But jokes aside, there is nothing Trump can do tonight unless he comes into the debate with a list of the names of people that were ordered killed by you know who, it's all over.

NG....how DARE you say, there is nothing "Trump" can do tonight....cause, "It aunt over til the FAT lady sings" !!!!!!!!!

Psyko hopes you are not saying Hillary R. Clinton is are FAT ????? RU....RU a repub with no touchy FEELING's !!!!!!!!!

Democrats R nice & sweet & don't call people FAT like U do????? U ......RU a derat with no touchy FEELING's ????

Tonight.Tonight."hope" ALL U Lottery Post  people enjoy "TONIGHT"

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Your complete inability to understand context is growing every day.  Hilda and the fake news pukes stated that

the only ones who would vote for Trump where the poorly educated.  This just shows how she views Americans

who don't buy her crap.  Trump made the statement in the context that he loves those who Hilda was so willing

to defame by claiming they were just stupid.  What part of this don't you understand.   I know many people with

advanced degrees voting Trump.   Even highly educated Women who would vote hundreds of times for him if they

were allowed.   The stupid ones all believe they are smarter if they vote Hilda.  How F***ing stupid is that.  If I

believed the polls then I would have to assume that there has to be a lot of intellectually challenged dumb asses

who think the same as you.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Psyko

It won't be over until the election is over, a lot can change in a day, and there are many days between now and then.

Party

RL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 19, 2016

I saw this written on a Facebook page earlier:

Whenever the Washington Redskins win their final home game before a presidential election, the party that currently holds the White House wins. (The lone election since 1936 it didn’t hold true was 2012)

According to this person, that clinches the win for Hillary. I had to point out that their last game prior to the election will be when the 'Skins will play the Bengals in London...and Washington is the home team in the contest. (meaning getting to choose the color uniforms;  the visitors get to call the coin toss)

"THAT GAME DOESN'T COUNT!!!!!!  NOT IN THE FORMULA!!!" was the reply.  I assured him it counted, maybe not in the "formula", but it certainly will count in the standings.  I also had to point out even if it didn't count, maybe the 2012 outlier was the start of a new statistical trend.

Funny stuff!

The last time the Cleveland Indians won the World Series in 1948 a Democrat was elected and again when the Cleveland Browns were the NFL Champs in 1964. And the Cavs won the NBA championship this year. Fun facts but only deserve a "how about that".

By the way, the exception was in 2004. In 2000 the Tennessee.Titans lost to the Skins while Al Gore was cheering for the team from his home state. Ask them if the fact Gore winning the popular vote effected the "formula".

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 19, 2016

Your complete inability to understand context is growing every day.  Hilda and the fake news pukes stated that

the only ones who would vote for Trump where the poorly educated.  This just shows how she views Americans

who don't buy her crap.  Trump made the statement in the context that he loves those who Hilda was so willing

to defame by claiming they were just stupid.  What part of this don't you understand.   I know many people with

advanced degrees voting Trump.   Even highly educated Women who would vote hundreds of times for him if they

were allowed.   The stupid ones all believe they are smarter if they vote Hilda.  How F***ing stupid is that.  If I

believed the polls then I would have to assume that there has to be a lot of intellectually challenged dumb asses

who think the same as you.

RL

As a matter of fact I see Hilda rubbing her hands together saying to herself, I can't believe how easy it is to get the

really stupid low life's to vote for me.  He, he, ha ha, am I smart or what.   Wait until they get what they voted for, 

now that I have their votes they will go for anything.   Then that bobble head of hers goes wild until the seizure kicks

in and she falls hitting her head, again. 

RL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Answer my question twister.  When did Hillary ever say she loved anyone other than herself?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Oct 19, 2016

NG....how DARE you say, there is nothing "Trump" can do tonight....cause, "It aunt over til the FAT lady sings" !!!!!!!!!

Psyko hopes you are not saying Hillary R. Clinton is are FAT ????? RU....RU a repub with no touchy FEELING's !!!!!!!!!

Democrats R nice & sweet & don't call people FAT like U do????? U ......RU a derat with no touchy FEELING's ????

Tonight.Tonight."hope" ALL U Lottery Post  people enjoy "TONIGHT"

Where are you stationed again- Belize? Anyways, it is OVER. In fact it was over when the REAL  Republican candidates were defeated by Trump. It's mystifying that the majority of repub LP members seem to think we idiots. You guys are NOT hoping for Trump to win & usher in major changes, you just don't want Hillary to win. I totally get that but don't think for a minute that your BS gets pass others & myself. Trump can't even get the majority of the republicans to coalesce behind him. His fights with the Speaker of the House, calling others all kinds of names etc & in all honesty his circling the bowl until the suction takes him down after tonight. His been circling it for awhile now, but then you guys knew that all along.Tonight Hill comes with a few nails & a hammer.To do what you ask? The answer is found on page 4.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 19, 2016

Everyone here knows what you are.  Twisting quotes won't help you.  I already proved my case.  And you?  Answer my question... When did Hillary ever say she loved anyone?  Other than herself.

"I already proved my case."

Yes several times now, but can you explain why you need to prove you're poorly educated?

"Answer my question"

You're Online, do a search.  Trump said he loved the "poorly educated" not the lazy.

bigbear29

 

BAD BLOOD? DONALD TRUMP AND ROGER AILES REPORTEDLY NO LONGER SPEAK:

The G.O.P. nominee and former cable news king, longtime friends, have reportedly had a falling out in the midst of the campaign.

Former Fox News boss Roger Ailes has reportedly stopped advisingDonald Trump.

Ailes, who left Fox earlier this year amid sexual harassment allegations, had reportedly helped Republican presidential candidate Trump prepare for his debates against Democrat Hillary Clinton. But the pair had a falling out, with both sides saying debate prep had not gone the way they wanted, Vanity Fair reported Wednesday.

The news comes just hours before Wednesday's third presidential debate in Las Vegas, where Trump will try to dig out of a recent polling hole.

Ailes had concerns that Trump could not focus and that preparation would be a "waste of time," while Trump thought Ailes spent too much prep time telling old stories, according to New York magazine's Gabriel Sherman and Vanity Fair contributing editor Sarah Ellison.

CNBC could not immediately confirm the details of the report. A Trump campaign spokeswoman and lawyer for Ailes did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

 

Trump still losing people!

 

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 19, 2016

 

BAD BLOOD? DONALD TRUMP AND ROGER AILES REPORTEDLY NO LONGER SPEAK:

The G.O.P. nominee and former cable news king, longtime friends, have reportedly had a falling out in the midst of the campaign.

Former Fox News boss Roger Ailes has reportedly stopped advisingDonald Trump.

Ailes, who left Fox earlier this year amid sexual harassment allegations, had reportedly helped Republican presidential candidate Trump prepare for his debates against Democrat Hillary Clinton. But the pair had a falling out, with both sides saying debate prep had not gone the way they wanted, Vanity Fair reported Wednesday.

The news comes just hours before Wednesday's third presidential debate in Las Vegas, where Trump will try to dig out of a recent polling hole.

Ailes had concerns that Trump could not focus and that preparation would be a "waste of time," while Trump thought Ailes spent too much prep time telling old stories, according to New York magazine's Gabriel Sherman and Vanity Fair contributing editor Sarah Ellison.

CNBC could not immediately confirm the details of the report. A Trump campaign spokeswoman and lawyer for Ailes did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

 

Trump still losing people!

 

Hilda and the DNC on the environment.  I guess all the Sh*T they are making caught up with them. 

RL

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/10/19/talk-about-an-october-surprise-a-dnc-bus-dumped-stinky-poo-into-a-ga-storm-drain/

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 19, 2016

Hillary is bringing Mark Cuban and Hp ceo Meg Whitman.

Wonder if Meg will bring her illegal immigrant maid with her?  Maybe she and Hillary are old Goldman Sachs buddies.

Not sure why Clinton thinks bringing Cuban - the worst pro sports team owner in Dallas - will help?  Yes, worst and considering that Jerry Jones owns the Cowboys, that's saying something.

bigbear29

I'm sure Hillary is not dumping the Sh*T!  I bet she is not on the bus.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 19, 2016

Answer my question twister.  When did Hillary ever say she loved anyone other than herself?

Took me about two seconds to find this article.

What exactly are you accusing me of twisting because most of the other poorly educated Trump supporters know exactly why Trump said he loved them?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 19, 2016

"I already proved my case."

Yes several times now, but can you explain why you need to prove you're poorly educated?

"Answer my question"

You're Online, do a search.  Trump said he loved the "poorly educated" not the lazy.

No you haven't proven your case.  Keep on twisting the truth.  And if you keep calling me "poorly educated"  I'll have to start calling you goober again. 

Why do you continue to lie?  Yes, you are a liar.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Maybe so, but the DNC is running the show.  Maybe she forgot to tell them it's illegal to dump waste into a

storm drain.

bigbear29

Cuban and Meg are better than Obama's half brother.

Both millionaires and both are leaders.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 19, 2016

Took me about two seconds to find this article.

What exactly are you accusing me of twisting because most of the other poorly educated Trump supporters know exactly why Trump said he loved them?

That article is a joke.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 19, 2016

Cuban and Meg are better than Obama's half brother.

Both millionaires and both are leaders.

How are they leaders?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I guess it's fair to say the DNC just took a big dump on GA.  Get use to it that's the way she operates.

RL.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 19, 2016

Should be an interesting debate.  Chris Wallace is one of the few honest journalists out there.

http://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/wrestling-fight-donald-trump-vs-hillary-clinton-gif-animation.gif

    That is  sooooo funny...  Hillary reminds me of those cabbage patch dolls...ROFL   TY GreenBay...

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 19, 2016

How are they leaders?

They're leaders b/c they support Hillary.  If they supported Trump, then they would be scum of the Earth in bigbore's book. 

Republican millionaires = bad.  Democrat millionaires = good.

But I expect you knew that.

BTW, Cuban is a multi-billionaire...and Whitman isn't really a Republican.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 19, 2016

Hilda and the DNC on the environment.  I guess all the Sh*T they are making caught up with them. 

RL

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/10/19/talk-about-an-october-surprise-a-dnc-bus-dumped-stinky-poo-into-a-ga-storm-drain/

It's okay they're used to dumping crap on people so why not think it's okay to dump raw sewage

on the street?

It was an honest mistake? Woow....see how they've been doing it all this time? They're sorry.

Not good enough.

Where is it legal to dump raw sewage? HazMat suits should let anyone know it's nothing normal.

Human waste and they're sorry? 

Someone wrote - Hilary's - all over the street.

But the best question was: what if Trump was caught doing that?

CNN would never let you forget it.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 19, 2016

They're leaders b/c they support Hillary.  If they supported Trump, then they would be scum of the Earth in bigbore's book. 

Republican millionaires = bad.  Democrat millionaires = good.

But I expect you knew that.

BTW, Cuban is a multi-billionaire...and Whitman isn't really a Republican.

Lets not confuse someone like Cuban with the likes of Henry Ford or others who actually produced something.

Soledad

I think the question that needs to be asked still after all these years is how selective each party is going to be with the limited-government principle. Some Republicans still show a significant lack of empathy for the welfare of all citizens. Politicians are people too, and they never get it right, so what exactly would we or should we all be cheering for? This is still America. Show me a better country.

bigbear29

for young entrepreneurs

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by kreative1 on Oct 19, 2016

How about Todd's rules or do you feel you are above them? For someone who talks a lot about him sending people to the no avatar land it looks like that is where you should be heading.

No personal attacks.Criticize ideas, not people.  Flaming will not be tolerated.  This includes any material which is vulgar, defamatory, inaccurate, harassing, hateful, threatening, invading of others' privacy, sexually-oriented, or violates any laws.

Respect the privacy of others.Do not post others' e-mail addresses, phone numbers, addresses, pictures, or other personally identifying information, without their permission.

I don't think her complaining about sexually oriented materials will fly. Lol The rules work both ways. I did not invent the phrase going to the land of no avatar but am flattered you think I did. She hardly has clean hands in this matter. Don't send garbage via pms without getting approval. I have a long list of members who pmd me on this and had the same concerns with her odd behavior. She wants to dish it out but whine when I fight back. It is likely that she sent her pics to other chat groups as well so I have a feeling they may be in the public domain. Common sense is not her strength.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 19, 2016

No you haven't proven your case.  Keep on twisting the truth.  And if you keep calling me "poorly educated"  I'll have to start calling you goober again. 

Why do you continue to lie?  Yes, you are a liar.

"No you haven't proven your case"

When was I trying to make a case?

"And if you keep calling me "poorly educated""

Most of the stuff you say proves you're not highly educated.

"I'll have to start calling you goober again."

Are you saying calling me childish names proves you're not poorly educated?

"Why do you continue to lie?"

Instead of just saying that, prove it. If you want to debate facts, bring them on. If you want to exchange childish insults, stop wasting my time..

bigbear29

National poll:

Hillary = 48

trump 37

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 19, 2016

Lets not confuse someone like Cuban with the likes of Henry Ford or others who actually produced something.

Cuban? I can't stand the guy...just look at him. Hillary insists on surrounding herself with wealth and what she

thinks is power. Doesn't that send a message to some people that those are the types she is most comfortable

with and Meg is a billionaire herself. Hillary cannot honestly deal with the little guy. There is no empathy there 

nor is there compassion. The human side is missing from Hillary. She has no remorse, she has no accountability, 

she is lacking in emotion and connection. She is connected to money and that's all she will ever be. She will not

have a day of suffering in her life. Trump is loaded but at least he is HUMAN. It's the reality factor that hits people

who oppose him and they don't like it because they are used to believing what they're told by someone who will

never, ever be able to relate to them. Hillary is way beyond most people's every day struggles. How can you feel

for what you don't care about or experience? At least Trump cares. Hillary pretends to care..she wants your vote,

that's it. Once she's in, you will see a side that will hit you like a brick wall..she's evil, ruthless, nasty and a liar.

She is in it for the money not the people. Her campaign is as dirty as they want you to believe Trump's is dirty.

Look at the woman and look at the man, forget what CNN tells you and get real people. You elect Hillary and

she will serve herself. How can a person work for you if they don't feel for you first? 

They can't.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 19, 2016

"No you haven't proven your case"

When was I trying to make a case?

"And if you keep calling me "poorly educated""

Most of the stuff you say proves you're not highly educated.

"I'll have to start calling you goober again."

Are you saying calling me childish names proves you're not poorly educated?

"Why do you continue to lie?"

Instead of just saying that, prove it. If you want to debate facts, bring them on. If you want to exchange childish insults, stop wasting my time..

Poorly educated, poorly educated, poorly educated... LOL!  My sister had a parrot with a larger vocabulary.  Answer my question goober.

bigbear29

What makes trump HUMAN?

bigbear29

So, Arizona and Georgia will change from red to blue.  DANG!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 19, 2016

Cuban? I can't stand the guy...just look at him. Hillary insists on surrounding herself with wealth and what she

thinks is power. Doesn't that send a message to some people that those are the types she is most comfortable

with and Meg is a billionaire herself. Hillary cannot honestly deal with the little guy. There is no empathy there 

nor is there compassion. The human side is missing from Hillary. She has no remorse, she has no accountability, 

she is lacking in emotion and connection. She is connected to money and that's all she will ever be. She will not

have a day of suffering in her life. Trump is loaded but at least he is HUMAN. It's the reality factor that hits people

who oppose him and they don't like it because they are used to believing what they're told by someone who will

never, ever be able to relate to them. Hillary is way beyond most people's every day struggles. How can you feel

for what you don't care about or experience? At least Trump cares. Hillary pretends to care..she wants your vote,

that's it. Once she's in, you will see a side that will hit you like a brick wall..she's evil, ruthless, nasty and a liar.

She is in it for the money not the people. Her campaign is as dirty as they want you to believe Trump's is dirty.

Look at the woman and look at the man, forget what CNN tells you and get real people. You elect Hillary and

she will serve herself. How can a person work for you if they don't feel for you first? 

They can't.

True dr65... Hillary is a fraud.  She cares nothing about anyone or anything but herself.  Trump cares about people, not just some, but all.  Yes even the uneducated.  Funny how the leftists attack him on that statement.  They're all frauds.

bigbear29

2016 New York President: Trump vs. Clinton:  trump's hometown

 

Hillary = 52.6%

 

trump = 32.6%

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 19, 2016

National poll:

Hillary = 48

trump 37

Rasmussen: Dead even

USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times: Virtually tied

IBD/TIPP Poll: Trump +1

Your post belongs in Gwinnett County. Georgia, flowing through the storm drains with the rest of the Democrat sewage.  In that case, just as with your posts,  you have to show that you're full of "it" and how you spread it around and then make others clean it up.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 19, 2016

I don't think her complaining about sexually oriented materials will fly. Lol The rules work both ways. I did not invent the phrase going to the land of no avatar but am flattered you think I did. She hardly has clean hands in this matter. Don't send garbage via pms without getting approval. I have a long list of members who pmd me on this and had the same concerns with her odd behavior. She wants to dish it out but whine when I fight back. It is likely that she sent her pics to other chat groups as well so I have a feeling they may be in the public domain. Common sense is not her strength.

"I did not invent the phrase going to the land of no avatar but am flattered you think I did."

They never said you "invented the phrase"; kreative1 said "For someone who talks a lot about him sending people to the no avatar land it looks like that is where you should be heading." Why did you quote what they said and then lie about it?

Most of your posts are filled with personal attacks with nothing lottery related. Is the reason you joined to childishly attack people you don't agree with?

 

*waiting for the next barrage of more lame childish insults.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Since the thread title is British Columbia Lottery taking bets on US election I wonder what the opening line was, ir it's moved, and how much. 

Nobody books even money so the OL might have been something like they were both -1.10 (You have to put up $110 to win $100) or something similar.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 19, 2016

Rasmussen: Dead even

USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times: Virtually tied

IBD/TIPP Poll: Trump +1

Your post belongs in Gwinnett County. Georgia, flowing through the storm drains with the rest of the Democrat sewage.  In that case, just as with your posts,  you have to show that you're full of "it" and how you spread it around and then make others clean it up.

LOL Mike thanks for showing the crapp he posts.  He is such a deceiver and his posts are redundant.

In fact, thank you all for your work in showing the few that post all their lies.

 

VOTE TRUMP, TAKE BACK AMERICA.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Soledad on Oct 19, 2016

I think the question that needs to be asked still after all these years is how selective each party is going to be with the limited-government principle. Some Republicans still show a significant lack of empathy for the welfare of all citizens. Politicians are people too, and they never get it right, so what exactly would we or should we all be cheering for? This is still America. Show me a better country.

Trump supporters want the change he is talking about.

Hillary supporters will get more Obama policy.

What do we want? 

I'd like to see Americans be the ones who are taken care of and not sold out for someone else's gains.

There are lots of things wrong with our country and Hillary wants to spread help and aid so thin that we will

never recover. She will be okay, she's got money and power to spare. She's out of touch with real America.

She's too interested in what America can do for her instead of the other way around. Career politicians are

very comfortable and they do what they are used to doing, just enough to get by and keep us all quiet and

where they think we should be. We need a shake up. I don't think Hillary is capable of shaking things up.

We need someone outside of politics to do that. That's Trump.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 19, 2016

LOL Mike thanks for showing the crapp he posts.  He is such a deceiver and his posts are redundant.

In fact, thank you all for your work in showing the few that post all their lies.

 

VOTE TRUMP, TAKE BACK AMERICA.

I hope Trump opens with the most recent email leak...your key staffer stated you do not know what planet you are on. Lol

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 19, 2016

True dr65... Hillary is a fraud.  She cares nothing about anyone or anything but herself.  Trump cares about people, not just some, but all.  Yes even the uneducated.  Funny how the leftists attack him on that statement.  They're all frauds.

Debate tonight!! Be there or be square Thumbs Up...Hillary is already square and she'll be there but I'm betting Trump will

do some serious whittling tonight and show her what it's like to be a star! Star  Star  Star

Soledad

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 19, 2016

Trump supporters want the change he is talking about.

Hillary supporters will get more Obama policy.

What do we want? 

I'd like to see Americans be the ones who are taken care of and not sold out for someone else's gains.

There are lots of things wrong with our country and Hillary wants to spread help and aid so thin that we will

never recover. She will be okay, she's got money and power to spare. She's out of touch with real America.

She's too interested in what America can do for her instead of the other way around. Career politicians are

very comfortable and they do what they are used to doing, just enough to get by and keep us all quiet and

where they think we should be. We need a shake up. I don't think Hillary is capable of shaking things up.

We need someone outside of politics to do that. That's Trump.

From my family side of things, I wanted Elizabeth Warren. She has a book out recently that makes a lot of sense. More sense than any others. They're changing Jacksons face on the twenty. I think it should be an important quesion at the moment. But Trump is unfortunately turning things into a circus. People are voting for who they like, but their opinions are not based on policies or agendas. It's a weird election to say the least.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 19, 2016

I hope Trump opens with the most recent email leak...your key staffer stated you do not know what planet you are on. Lol

She has given him a lot of ammunition just hope he uses it.  I think fireworks are going off tonite.  Good Luck Trump.

VOTE TRUMP AND TAKE BACK AMERICA.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 19, 2016

She has given him a lot of ammunition just hope he uses it.  I think fireworks are going off tonite.  Good Luck Trump.

VOTE TRUMP AND TAKE BACK AMERICA.

God bless America and God bless Donald Trump.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 19, 2016

Where are you stationed again- Belize? Anyways, it is OVER. In fact it was over when the REAL  Republican candidates were defeated by Trump. It's mystifying that the majority of repub LP members seem to think we idiots. You guys are NOT hoping for Trump to win & usher in major changes, you just don't want Hillary to win. I totally get that but don't think for a minute that your BS gets pass others & myself. Trump can't even get the majority of the republicans to coalesce behind him. His fights with the Speaker of the House, calling others all kinds of names etc & in all honesty his circling the bowl until the suction takes him down after tonight. His been circling it for awhile now, but then you guys knew that all along.Tonight Hill comes with a few nails & a hammer.To do what you ask? The answer is found on page 4.

The Hillary/Kanine campaign bus dumped a big load of stinking PukeBS into an open ditch near the town of Kennessee, Georgia but, their butts were caught by local who commented  that Drats "stink" like the crap they are>>>>>>>>>>>>>caught again & again & aKain!!!!

Wonder how their Press Lie'r  will answer this one? Bet they will just cover it    up as usual like they have with the document E-mail "dumps" ...? HOLD UR NOSE and VOTE

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Oct 19, 2016

The Hillary/Kanine campaign bus dumped a big load of stinking PukeBS into an open ditch near the town of Kennessee, Georgia but, their butts were caught by local who commented  that Drats "stink" like the crap they are>>>>>>>>>>>>>caught again & again & aKain!!!!

Wonder how their Press Lie'r  will answer this one? Bet they will just cover it    up as usual like they have with the document E-mail "dumps" ...? HOLD UR NOSE and VOTE

LOL!! LOL!!! LOL!!!!

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Oct 19, 2016

The Hillary/Kanine campaign bus dumped a big load of stinking PukeBS into an open ditch near the town of Kennessee, Georgia but, their butts were caught by local who commented  that Drats "stink" like the crap they are>>>>>>>>>>>>>caught again & again & aKain!!!!

Wonder how their Press Lie'r  will answer this one? Bet they will just cover it    up as usual like they have with the document E-mail "dumps" ...? HOLD UR NOSE and VOTE

          ROFL      I like the hold your nose and vote...Green laugh...    Thumbs Up   psykomo

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

According to several new outlets, voter fraud in this election will be like no other and will even make the Obama victories seem kosher. They are advising to scroll back up after you vote to double check your choices as votes in the past have miraculously "changed" to favor ALL democrats. This issue has risen in many place but you can bet the democrats will pull all the stops this go around.

Even postal workers are getting involved in disposing of absentee Republican ballots and than you add all the tainted ballots sitting in warehouses waiting to be mixed in with all the regular ballots. The waste from the Hillary campaign bus stunk but I bet then stench on this will be even worse.

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 19, 2016

Anybody follow this story?   

http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/rep-jan-schakowskys-husband-involved-in-flap-over-trump-rallies/

Yep, and this is just the beginning. If it weren't for wiki leaks most of us would still be sitting in the dark.

bigbear29

What proof do you have????  That is total BS!

 

This is why it is good to Copy/paste.

bigbear29

Trump threw his chances away to become president.  STAY ON MESSAGE! HE WAS TOLD, over and over.  Now trump is the only one putting out the RIGGED message,  because he is LOSING!

And with that, I bet he will lose some of his voters.

Trump is a total MORON!  And a total demagogue!

Trump can not even unite his own party.

Trump has turned into a media CLOWN.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Unluckyone on Oct 19, 2016

According to several new outlets, voter fraud in this election will be like no other and will even make the Obama victories seem kosher. They are advising to scroll back up after you vote to double check your choices as votes in the past have miraculously "changed" to favor ALL democrats. This issue has risen in many place but you can bet the democrats will pull all the stops this go around.

Even postal workers are getting involved in disposing of absentee Republican ballots and than you add all the tainted ballots sitting in warehouses waiting to be mixed in with all the regular ballots. The waste from the Hillary campaign bus stunk but I bet then stench on this will be even worse.

It is already rampant with people coming out to complain their vote for Trump defaulted to Hillary.  Deja Vu Obama.

Isnt it convenient that the voting machines are owned by a George Soros company lol.

I, for one, am glad these videos came out because like you say, we would NEVER, EVER know this crap was going on.  Robert Creamer has a direct link to the White House with weekly visits (342 times) and was employed by the DNC.  He is also convicted of prior tax violations and bank fraud by writing bad checks. Robert Creamer was caught on camera discussing ways to start fights and disrupt Trump rallies. The Second guy was fired, his name is Flout or Flous or something like that.  Creamer smartly resigned.

Read about Shirley Teter, a 69 year old activist who claimed she was "punched in the face" and "knocked out by a Trump supporter" but turned out she was an activist and a plant.  She was trained in how to take a punch. EDIT:  She was shown wearing oxygen when the "purported punch" came about.  ALL A FRAUD.

What a CESSPOOL.

 

VOTE TRUMP AND TAKE BACK AMERICA

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 19, 2016

What proof do you have????  That is total BS!

 

This is why it is good to Copy/paste.

It is not B.S. as two of the individual implicated have either resigned or been fired. NBC, CBS and ABC have yet to mention any of it.

bigbear29

Young voters flee Donald Trump in what may be historic trouncing, poll shows:

Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton is consolidating the support of the Millennials who fueled Bernie Sanders' challenge during the primaries, a new USA TODAY/Rock the Vote Poll finds, as Republican Donald Trump heads toward the worst showing among younger voters in modern American history.

The survey shows Clinton trouncing Trump 56%-20% among those under 35, though she has failed so far to generate the levels of enthusiasm Sanders did — and the high turn-out that can signal — among Millennials.

"I get worried about the bigoted element of our country, and that they will stick with Trump regardless of his stupidity," says Elizabeth Krueger, 31, an actress in New York City who was among those surveyed. She supports Clinton. "She is not going to be a perfect president, but who would be?"

bigbear29

Than where can I go to see proof?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 19, 2016

I hope Trump opens with the most recent email leak...your key staffer stated you do not know what planet you are on. Lol

LOL! 

Let him touch on the fact that she IS ALSO the top 1% and wipe that nasty, self loving, self satisfied smirk off her

face.

I heard she took some anger management classes..What? I hope he strike the right nerves tonight, you can't teach and

old dog new tricks, she's more than an old dog though, she's a rotten no good witch. Bandit

 

https://youtu.be/ieyDPmzeoMA 

https://youtu.be/xIVYRYVB5b8

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Here's my own poll offered up to Millennials and it was 100% for the choice marked:

 I like pie

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Wow flawless job by Trump. Hillary is defensive and snotty. Chris Wallace is being fair so far.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 19, 2016

Wow flawless job by Trump. Hillary is defensive and snotty. Chris Wallace is being fair so far.

Her smug look is gone, she is P'o'd.  I love it.  She doesnt like her statement that she wants open borders is out in the open.  She is MAD.

So far so good.

bigbear29

The moderator stated that trump's economic plan does not add up.  It will not work.

Soledad

Why do republicans not like NAFTA? I don't understand

bigbear29

More Republicans than Democrats supported NAFTA:

The Facts

Bill Clinton was certainly a supporter of NAFTA who pushed approval through Congress. But it was negotiated and signed by President George H.W. Bush.  Moreover, more Republicans than Democrats voted for the deal, as the trade pact was vehemently opposed by labor unions. One key ally for Clinton was then-House Minority Whip (and later House speaker) Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), who is said to be on Trump’s list of possible running mates.

NAFTA was a successor to a free-trade pact with Canada. Bush had viewed NAFTA as a political opportunity, an achievement for his reelection campaign. He initialed the deal on Aug. 12, 1992, before the GOP convention, and then formally signed it in December 1992, after he had lost the election to Clinton.

Clinton had supported the pact during the presidential campaign but said he wanted to negotiate side agreements with Mexico concerning enforcement of labor and environmental laws. He didn’t pursue ratification in Congress till after those agreements were reached in August 1993 — but the deals were denounced by labor and environmental groups as too weak.

So Clinton did not negotiate NAFTA, nor did he sign it. But he did put his political prestige on the line to get it approved by Congress — even as two top Democrats, House Majority Leader Richard Gephardt (Mo.) and House Majority Whip David Bonior (Mich.), opposed it. In the House, NAFTA  passed 234-200; 132 Republicans and 102 Democrats voted in favor of it. The Senate approved NAFTA 61-38, with the backing of 34 Republicans and 27 Democrats.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

This is the best moderator of all the debates. 

I'm glad they're (mostly) sticking to the big issues.

Soledad

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 19, 2016

More Republicans than Democrats supported NAFTA:

The Facts

Bill Clinton was certainly a supporter of NAFTA who pushed approval through Congress. But it was negotiated and signed by President George H.W. Bush.  Moreover, more Republicans than Democrats voted for the deal, as the trade pact was vehemently opposed by labor unions. One key ally for Clinton was then-House Minority Whip (and later House speaker) Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), who is said to be on Trump’s list of possible running mates.

NAFTA was a successor to a free-trade pact with Canada. Bush had viewed NAFTA as a political opportunity, an achievement for his reelection campaign. He initialed the deal on Aug. 12, 1992, before the GOP convention, and then formally signed it in December 1992, after he had lost the election to Clinton.

Clinton had supported the pact during the presidential campaign but said he wanted to negotiate side agreements with Mexico concerning enforcement of labor and environmental laws. He didn’t pursue ratification in Congress till after those agreements were reached in August 1993 — but the deals were denounced by labor and environmental groups as too weak.

So Clinton did not negotiate NAFTA, nor did he sign it. But he did put his political prestige on the line to get it approved by Congress — even as two top Democrats, House Majority Leader Richard Gephardt (Mo.) and House Majority Whip David Bonior (Mich.), opposed it. In the House, NAFTA  passed 234-200; 132 Republicans and 102 Democrats voted in favor of it. The Senate approved NAFTA 61-38, with the backing of 34 Republicans and 27 Democrats.

Ok thank you bigbear29. I just didn't understand why Trump said that he might leave it.

bigbear29

Trump would be a lot better if he would do his homework.  But he does not, which is scary.

bigbear29

Trump is not going to except the will of the people if he does not win?   A BIG NO NO for trump.

 

And he does not get women voters.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Ugh. Post debate commentary is disgusting, biased, biased, biased.

dr65's avatardr65

She's still her rotten old arrogant self. Did anyone else catch - or was I hearing things - her say she will go

into Syria???

That white suit was supposed to be subliminal messaging? Like white for good? Well all I could imagine is it

splattered with the blood that's going to be shed when she takes us right into WW3.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Did you notice the top of her podium was lit up (like the last debate) so she could read off her teleprompter? While Trumps podium was completely dark.

bigbear29

Bottomline, trump did not move the need at all.  Than he blow himself up at the end.  It is the will of the people to elect the president.  It is not rigged like trump wants you to believe.  Trump blow himself up tonight.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 19, 2016

Did you notice the top of her podium was lit up (like the last debate) so she could read off her teleprompter? While Trumps podium was completely dark.

   YEP!!!!  I was looking to see the same thing....LOL

bigbear29

I guess trump did not know how to turn the light on.  And he is running for president!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 19, 2016

She's still her rotten old arrogant self. Did anyone else catch - or was I hearing things - her say she will go

into Syria???

That white suit was supposed to be subliminal messaging? Like white for good? Well all I could imagine is it

splattered with the blood that's going to be shed when she takes us right into WW3.

She's so full of it she stinks, just like the sewage she left on the streets of Georgia.

She says she won't raise taxes, she neglects to say the 2017 Obamacare mandates will crush the middle class.

We will have more taxes, even higher health care, higher co-pays, the dollar will continue to shrink and the cost of food will skyrocket along with goods and services.

Business will really hurt as more and more people get rid of the extras, I already know so many who have stopped adding to their 401k's, stopped magazine subscriptions, downgraded cable, are not eating out. all the little things we do that help the economy will give way to stagnant wages, and higher cost of living.

If America is just working to pay for  health care premiums, higher co pays, housing and food, not much left for retirement and the little extras, So much for the American dream.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Anyone else sick of hearing Hillary remind us she was Sec. of State and a Senator?

I thought Trump wrapped it up pretty nice when he said if you want four more years of Obama that's what you'll get with her.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 19, 2016

I guess trump did not know how to turn the light on.  And he is running for president!

It was probably done to make her look like the light...

Go ahead and vote for her, vote your FREEDOM Away.

bigbear29

How is Hillary going to take my freedom away?

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Donna Brazile is spinning like a top with Megyn Kelly about how she leaked town hall question to Clinton.   How embarrassing, she didnt want to come right out and say she did not have the question because when it comes out she will be caught in a lie so she was just chirping nonsense.

Ummm Ahhhhh.....just like Hillary when she was trying to think how to answer.  I have noticed she gets that goofy smile, then comes the ummm ahhhhhbefore she answers.

bigbear29

It's called a winning smile.  Trump is up by 2 points in Texas.  Texas might be turnning BLUE!

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 19, 2016

Donna Brazile is spinning like a top with Megyn Kelly about how she leaked town hall question to Clinton.   How embarrassing, she didnt want to come right out and say she did not have the question because when it comes out she will be caught in a lie so she was just chirping nonsense.

Ummm Ahhhhh.....just like Hillary when she was trying to think how to answer.  I have noticed she gets that goofy smile, then comes the ummm ahhhhhbefore she answers.

   LMBO... I saw that and Megyn Kelly had her in a corner and she didn't know how to get out of it....

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I missed the entire debate, power went off around the time they walked on the stage and did not

come back on until it was over, hmmmmm.

RL

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 19, 2016

It's called a winning smile.  Trump is up by 2 points in Texas.  Texas might be turnning BLUE!

Like this?

 

bigbear29

Hillary was wearing a cream colored outfit.  Trump is done and he put the nail in his own coffin tonight.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 19, 2016

I missed the entire debate, power went off around the time they walked on the stage and did not

come back on until it was over, hmmmmm.

RL

Fox is replaying it right now, CNN will replay it at 1:00 am.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 20, 2016

Like this?

 

hahahahaha lol she is a crazed lunatic. 

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 19, 2016

How is Hillary going to take my freedom away?

You're going to hand it right to her and then you're going to say, "Oh how could this have happened, oh how".

Just go through this thread without liberal blinders on.

bigbear29

REALLY!

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 20, 2016

hahahahaha lol she is a crazed lunatic. 

She sure looks the part....lol

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 20, 2016

She sure looks the part....lol

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 20, 2016

Like this?

 

Don't know if that pic is post lesion on her tongue but with or without it, there are other things

clearly wrong here. She probably got news her speaking fees were being tripled. No Nod In any

event, she is a crazed lunatic. Do we really want the fingers of this  person anywhere near a 

launch button?

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

4 minutes to launch a nuke, she said....isn't that classified? The protocol? She can't Secretary of State worth a d**m, but vote her for President?

She shouldn't have access to classified info, and is therefore INELIGIBLE!

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 20, 2016

Don't know if that pic is post lesion on her tongue but with or without it, there are other things

clearly wrong here. She probably got news her speaking fees were being tripled. No Nod In any

event, she is a crazed lunatic. Do we really want the fingers of this  person anywhere near a 

launch button?

Count me out voting this pos, just like odumbo, anybody but him and i say the same about her.

She was so rehearsed she looked was a robot. Or as Sheriff David Clarke just said plugged her in hahaha i love the guy.

I have to say, when Trump brought up she wanted full open borders, that was priceless. She didnt know whether to s$&; or wind her watch.  Wiped that arrogance right off her face.  Any other debate she was so proud of herself and looked so staged but tonight she showed how really mad Trump made her.  All of a sudden here comes that goofy smile again, like someone was whispering in her ear that she needs to pretend all things are fine.  I swear....or else she reminded herself dont let him see you sweat and turns on the goofball, phoney, staged smile.

VOTE TRUMP, TAKE BACK AMERICA.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 20, 2016

She's a witch.

http://truthfeed.com/8-actual-hillary-quotes/8825/

I'd rather deal with Miss Elvira Gulch. At least she was upfront and honest about wanting the ruby slippers.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 20, 2016

4 minutes to launch a nuke, she said....isn't that classified? The protocol? She can't Secretary of State worth a d**m, but vote her for President?

She shouldn't have access to classified info, and is therefore INELIGIBLE!

The way she flies off the handle and cusses out her staff over the least little thing, she just isn't very stable.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 20, 2016

REALLY!

Yeah really. Hillary would be four more years of Obama........how's this grab you? Those on SS and Disability will be getting a chump change $2.00- 3.00 COLA raise this year and Medicare will go up $21. That's how tax and spend democrats take care of people. 

There was no COLA last year because gas prices were 'down'. 

How's your job writing for Pravda going by the way?

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Someone better fix this ObamaCare <snip> or I'm gonna quit working i was only paying $60 a week in insurance now they are taking $200.00 per week out of my check that kinda hurts.P***ed

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JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Oct 20, 2016

Someone better fix this ObamaCare <snip> or I'm gonna quit working i was only paying $60 a week in insurance now they are taking $200.00 per week out of my check that kinda hurts.P***ed

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It's not even peaked yet....Doctors dropping out, ins co dropping out, people paying penalties because it's cheaper than the policies, still have to pay for their medical on top of the penalties...people that can't afford insurance! Of course, if you're "undocumented" (can't say illegal, now can we) you're covered....

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 20, 2016

Hillary was wearing a cream colored outfit.  Trump is done and he put the nail in his own coffin tonight.

Did you watch TV just to see what she was wearing Green laugh

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 19, 2016

No you haven't proven your case.  Keep on twisting the truth.  And if you keep calling me "poorly educated"  I'll have to start calling you goober again. 

Why do you continue to lie?  Yes, you are a liar.

"No you haven't proven your case."

The portions in blue are what you said; hint: in between the quotation marks.

noise-gate

The sexual predator mumbles under his dirty breath, "Such a nasty woman."- Michael Moore.

 Trump even said the Emmys were rigged, when his reality show “The Apprentice” did not win.

You have got to be kidding! Trump doesn't even know what partial birth abortion even is! Ahhhhhhhgggggg- Glenn Beck.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 20, 2016

Like this?

 

The Democrats are true blue blooded honest people when (the electoral votes) are in their favor and/or we all know there is always a butt in the crowd somewhere...??? In 2000 Al Gore objected to the election results in Florida and recounting began because, Al Gore refused to accept the results.Recounting began to satisfy Hill and Bill because,Al Gore needed the Florida electoral votes to put him over the top. Derats claimed Repubs stole election and rejected  peoples WILL and said Al Gore won election. The voting machines had hanging "chads" not counted for Bush or Gore.

Al Gore claimed they were his votes.Honest Democrats lost thousands of absent ballots from the military who mailed them from all over the world. Quiet a few military mail-ins were found and majority were for Bush as the Republican had expected. Anyway it was a big stinging MESS for weeks as the Democrat lawyers got going and the press were HAPPY to report how low down cheating 2X timing Republicans were trying to steal the election from Al Gore and little people.The courts ended up ruling Bush won that jackpot in 2000 but,the Derats and press vowed never ever will the  Repubs win another jackpot again. Trump is in the "battle" now for the SUPER BOWL lottery jackpot of his and our LIFETIME!  Sad butt true he is up against the Drats Party, the Repub Party the Press Party. He must know this election results will not be accepted if he is LUCKY enough to WIN this WON. GOD help the man who can steer thru this mine field, shark infested, low down cheating, 2XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX timing "SAUSAGE PARTY" !!

THE PRESS will harp and jaw bone 4D next two weeks about how TRUMP refused to answer YES to Wallace question,   Mr.TRUMP will you "ACCEPT" the results in the election of 2016 like AL GORE did in the presidential election 2000 !!           

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Oct 20, 2016

The Democrats are true blue blooded honest people when (the electoral votes) are in their favor and/or we all know there is always a butt in the crowd somewhere...??? In 2000 Al Gore objected to the election results in Florida and recounting began because, Al Gore refused to accept the results.Recounting began to satisfy Hill and Bill because,Al Gore needed the Florida electoral votes to put him over the top. Derats claimed Repubs stole election and rejected  peoples WILL and said Al Gore won election. The voting machines had hanging "chads" not counted for Bush or Gore.

Al Gore claimed they were his votes.Honest Democrats lost thousands of absent ballots from the military who mailed them from all over the world. Quiet a few military mail-ins were found and majority were for Bush as the Republican had expected. Anyway it was a big stinging MESS for weeks as the Democrat lawyers got going and the press were HAPPY to report how low down cheating 2X timing Republicans were trying to steal the election from Al Gore and little people.The courts ended up ruling Bush won that jackpot in 2000 but,the Derats and press vowed never ever will the  Repubs win another jackpot again. Trump is in the "battle" now for the SUPER BOWL lottery jackpot of his and our LIFETIME!  Sad butt true he is up against the Drats Party, the Repub Party the Press Party. He must know this election results will not be accepted if he is LUCKY enough to WIN this WON. GOD help the man who can steer thru this mine field, shark infested, low down cheating, 2XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX timing "SAUSAGE PARTY" !!

THE PRESS will harp and jaw bone 4D next two weeks about how TRUMP refused to answer YES to Wallace question,   Mr.TRUMP will you "ACCEPT" the results in the election of 2016 like AL GORE did in the presidential election 2000 !!           

Hillary's Super PAC paid off NBC and Wall Street Journal

https://youtu.be/yPQDCMUCrf4

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 20, 2016

Yeah really. Hillary would be four more years of Obama........how's this grab you? Those on SS and Disability will be getting a chump change $2.00- 3.00 COLA raise this year and Medicare will go up $21. That's how tax and spend democrats take care of people. 

There was no COLA last year because gas prices were 'down'. 

How's your job writing for Pravda going by the way?

"Those on SS and Disability will be getting a chump change $2.00- 3.00 COLA raise this year and Medicare will go up $21. That's how tax and spend democrats take care of people."

Will somebody please give Coin Toss a copy of the Constitution, specifically Article II. The poor soul believes the President mails out SS checks.

"There was no COLA last year because gas prices were 'down'."

And don't forget the fact your Republican House changed the COLA formula. (Article I of the Constitution)

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Oct 20, 2016

The Democrats are true blue blooded honest people when (the electoral votes) are in their favor and/or we all know there is always a butt in the crowd somewhere...??? In 2000 Al Gore objected to the election results in Florida and recounting began because, Al Gore refused to accept the results.Recounting began to satisfy Hill and Bill because,Al Gore needed the Florida electoral votes to put him over the top. Derats claimed Repubs stole election and rejected  peoples WILL and said Al Gore won election. The voting machines had hanging "chads" not counted for Bush or Gore.

Al Gore claimed they were his votes.Honest Democrats lost thousands of absent ballots from the military who mailed them from all over the world. Quiet a few military mail-ins were found and majority were for Bush as the Republican had expected. Anyway it was a big stinging MESS for weeks as the Democrat lawyers got going and the press were HAPPY to report how low down cheating 2X timing Republicans were trying to steal the election from Al Gore and little people.The courts ended up ruling Bush won that jackpot in 2000 but,the Derats and press vowed never ever will the  Repubs win another jackpot again. Trump is in the "battle" now for the SUPER BOWL lottery jackpot of his and our LIFETIME!  Sad butt true he is up against the Drats Party, the Repub Party the Press Party. He must know this election results will not be accepted if he is LUCKY enough to WIN this WON. GOD help the man who can steer thru this mine field, shark infested, low down cheating, 2XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX timing "SAUSAGE PARTY" !!

THE PRESS will harp and jaw bone 4D next two weeks about how TRUMP refused to answer YES to Wallace question,   Mr.TRUMP will you "ACCEPT" the results in the election of 2016 like AL GORE did in the presidential election 2000 !!           

Oh, and they called it "Disturbing" so patronizing....

How can anyone say a game was fair until the game has ended ?

The media is rigged that's for sure...

And the nerve of her to call Trump a puppet....LOL!!!!!!!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 20, 2016

The sexual predator mumbles under his dirty breath, "Such a nasty woman."- Michael Moore.

 Trump even said the Emmys were rigged, when his reality show “The Apprentice” did not win.

You have got to be kidding! Trump doesn't even know what partial birth abortion even is! Ahhhhhhhgggggg- Glenn Beck.

Trump was doing great at the start but just couldn't finish the deal. Wonder how “We have some bad hombres here and we’re going to get them out.” is going to sound in the Latino communities?

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Communities where? The US, Mexico? "bad hombres" aren't good anywhere...but that message gets washed.

bigbear29

I watched to see how many nails trump put in his coffin.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Anyone else see when Wallace posed the question of the women's allegations and also mentioned the claims against her husband. She completely ignored the question on her turn and rambled and said how she knew they did not have much time here. Lol. Trump was so perfect in his responses that I got chills. He also did the Mike Pence thing by just smiling and silently nodding no.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 20, 2016

Yeah really. Hillary would be four more years of Obama........how's this grab you? Those on SS and Disability will be getting a chump change $2.00- 3.00 COLA raise this year and Medicare will go up $21. That's how tax and spend democrats take care of people. 

There was no COLA last year because gas prices were 'down'. 

How's your job writing for Pravda going by the way?

Lol. That sounds like the same amount of money the Haitians got from her foundation.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

First she says no tax increase on those under $250,000. Later, she slips in that payroll tax to support SS will go up.  

Pants on fire!

bigbear29

Donald Trump digs a deeper hole:

Donald Trump used the third and final presidential debate to dig himself into a deeper hole that only increases the threat to his presidential prospects.

Over the course of 90 minutes, Trump scored some early hits against Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton. But it's one moment that will haunt the Republican nominee and define the narrative heading into the campaign's last days.
"I will look at it at the time," Trump said when asked whether he would concede if he loses on November 8. "I will keep you in suspense."
To emphasize the extraordinary nature of Trump's statement, Clinton responded: "That's horrifying."
The comments -- combined with a knock on Clinton as a "nasty woman" and a quip about "bad hombres" -- is certain to dominate the political conversation in the remaining 19 days of the race. Though Clinton enjoys a commanding lead in the polls, the overwhelming narrative is likely to be about Trump's potential refusal to accept defeat might trigger a historic confrontation in the days following the election.
Exasperated Republicans have no choice but to once again weather the fallout. It's an especially tough task for Senate Republicans facing voters next month, as those who have not already disowned their party's nominee could come under renewed pressure to do so.
rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Oct 20, 2016

Someone better fix this ObamaCare <snip> or I'm gonna quit working i was only paying $60 a week in insurance now they are taking $200.00 per week out of my check that kinda hurts.P***ed

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If she's elected you ain't seen nothin" yet.

bigbear29

At third debate, Trump won’t commit to accepting election results if he loses:

A defiant Donald Trump used the high-profile setting of the final presidential debate here Wednesday night to amplify one of the most explosive charges of his candidacy: that if he loses the election, he might consider the results illegitimate because the process is rigged.

Questioned directly as to whether he would accept the outcome should Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton prevail on Nov. 8, Trump demurred. “I will keep you in suspense,” the Republican nominee said. Clinton called Trump’s answer “horrifying,” saying he was “talking down our democracy.”

 

Trump is DONE!

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 20, 2016

Anyone else see when Wallace posed the question of the women's allegations and also mentioned the claims against her husband. She completely ignored the question on her turn and rambled and said how she knew they did not have much time here. Lol. Trump was so perfect in his responses that I got chills. He also did the Mike Pence thing by just smiling and silently nodding no.

Got Chills? I think the republican party as a whole " got chills" after that bus video of Trump talking to Billy bush was aired- but that's besides the point. It's good to read that Trump does give people the chills.

As always : an opinion.

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Trump was given several opportunities to really pulverize Hillary but didn't take advantage of it. The one that stuck out the most was when Hillary made reference that nobody want the government interfering when it comes to a woman's right and abortion yet it's ok for the feds at least according to what she has planned to intervene in everything else?

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Oct 20, 2016

Someone better fix this ObamaCare <snip> or I'm gonna quit working i was only paying $60 a week in insurance now they are taking $200.00 per week out of my check that kinda hurts.P***ed

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I know your pain. Mine has more than doubled but not quite as bad as yours. Obamacare has been a complete disaster.

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Oct 20, 2016

First she says no tax increase on those under $250,000. Later, she slips in that payroll tax to support SS will go up.  

Pants on fire!

I saw a clip of her at a rally saying she will raise taxes on the middle class and now she claims she won't do that? She is too ignorant to realize that there is footage of her saying it along with her supporters actually cheering.

bigbear29

A true trump fan, disaster, disaster, disaster, everything is a disaster.  I woke up this morning and it was a disaster!  GEE!

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 20, 2016

At third debate, Trump won’t commit to accepting election results if he loses:

A defiant Donald Trump used the high-profile setting of the final presidential debate here Wednesday night to amplify one of the most explosive charges of his candidacy: that if he loses the election, he might consider the results illegitimate because the process is rigged.

Questioned directly as to whether he would accept the outcome should Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton prevail on Nov. 8, Trump demurred. “I will keep you in suspense,” the Republican nominee said. Clinton called Trump’s answer “horrifying,” saying he was “talking down our democracy.”

 

Trump is DONE!

Most politicians do the same thing " keep the country in suspense." They get elected and promise to do the people's work and end up doing something completely different. It's no wonder the approval numbers of both the Congress & Senate are in the toilet. If a presidential candidate loses the election, it simply means that the people didn't like his or her policies.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 20, 2016

Got Chills? I think the republican party as a whole " got chills" after that bus video of Trump talking to Billy bush was aired- but that's besides the point. It's good to read that Trump does give people the chills.

As always : an opinion.

They may have gotten chills over that years old video and it is beside the point especially since no matter how much the

Democrats and you want it to matter, it will never compare to the things that Hillary has said and done while involved in

the political machine of lies, fraud, broken promises and failed policy. Chills are much better and more easily shaken off

than the ice running through veins of her supporters. The fact that their brains are numbed to the obvious treachery shows

her cold smile, frigid demeanor, chilling record and overall icy dealings with the American public, FBI and Congress are

working to make followers numb to common sense. They grasp, just as they've been taught, silly issues and make them

priority issues, believe the constant dicing of words in erroneous quotes attributed to Trump and idiotically ignore the acts

of a professional criminal who chants: Stronger Together. Stronger together in Hillary's world is the special interests, big

donations, special favors, a place among the elite .01% of top earners in the country and whoever will come together to

make her more powerful. The only together the American people are left with is that they will realize at some point that

they were all duped and used and they certainly will feel very, very strongly about that.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Oct 20, 2016

I know your pain. Mine has more than doubled but not quite as bad as yours. Obamacare has been a complete disaster.

It is going to get much worse. Some figures state increased premiums of over 200%.

Right now it increased 67% and that's a devastating percentage for lots of people.

Obama gets to exit, stage left and wash his hands of it all. He will still arrogantly claim

he did a good job. Let him live the life he made for Americans then say that.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Oct 20, 2016

First she says no tax increase on those under $250,000. Later, she slips in that payroll tax to support SS will go up.  

Pants on fire!

She has been a politician far too long, she doesnt remember what she says.  She knows the media will cover for her.  Since she wont be questioned she can ignore the question posed last night about billybones indiscretions.  That was so blatant a subject change a first grader could see.

Sounded like when Obamacare passed in the middle of the night without not one Republican vote.  There was "pork" and special interest pet products inserted as well. 

The most outrageous lie was when she said she was proud of the Clinton Foundation because 90% of the money was used to help others.  That is a LIE, only 2% goes to charity.  The biggest recipient of the billions goes to the Clintons. Such philanthropists they are.  Not one word was mentioned.  Who wouldnt be proud of a Foundation that amasses such wealth?  But then take it further, it was set up by the Clintons, used by the Clintons and kept for the Clintons, with a very, small percentage going to charity.

The Clintons are disgusting.

VOTE TRUMP, STOP THE CLINTON INSANITY AND TAKE BACK AMERICA.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

psykomo,

During the 2000 election the Democrats also ran ads and had people call into Florida radio stations right around quitting time telling military people not to bother stopping to vote on the way home if they were for Bush because the election results for Florida were already decided. 

Their donkey logo should have a sign on it that says If you can't beat 'em cheat 'em.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Oct 20, 2016

I saw a clip of her at a rally saying she will raise taxes on the middle class and now she claims she won't do that? She is too ignorant to realize that there is footage of her saying it along with her supporters actually cheering.

She knows alright, she knows the media will bury it, she is just too confident she will win and doesnt care.

What I dont get is how blind her supporters are, dont they realize her policies will affect their lives?

She has such a "better than anyone else" demeanor and attitude I wanted to slap that smugness right off her face.

VOTE TRUMP AND SAVE OUR COUNTRY

bigbear29

Or the people did not like the candidate, but in trumps case, his likability is very low, and he is not ready for a presidential job.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 20, 2016

They may have gotten chills over that years old video and it is beside the point especially since no matter how much the

Democrats and you want it to matter, it will never compare to the things that Hillary has said and done while involved in

the political machine of lies, fraud, broken promises and failed policy. Chills are much better and more easily shaken off

than the ice running through veins of her supporters. The fact that their brains are numbed to the obvious treachery shows

her cold smile, frigid demeanor, chilling record and overall icy dealings with the American public, FBI and Congress are

working to make followers numb to common sense. They grasp, just as they've been taught, silly issues and make them

priority issues, believe the constant dicing of words in erroneous quotes attributed to Trump and idiotically ignore the acts

of a professional criminal who chants: Stronger Together. Stronger together in Hillary's world is the special interests, big

donations, special favors, a place among the elite .01% of top earners in the country and whoever will come together to

make her more powerful. The only together the American people are left with is that they will realize at some point that

they were all duped and used and they certainly will feel very, very strongly about that.

This may sound strange to you, but l want the very best for America. I do not want her to fail. If Donald was giving a coherent and wonderful vision for America, l would take a second look at him- but it's the missteps along the way that has made me blink on a number of occasions. With Hillary, the experience as a senator, working for women & children's rights, it's the lesser of two evils at this point. We cannot have two presidents so one will have to do.If she is elected president and turns out to be the worst- she gets kicked out after 4 years.Its that simple. 

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Did anyone else notice when Hillary announced the nuclear code procedure to the entire world? if that isn't an opener then all her supporters must be comatose.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Unluckyone on Oct 20, 2016

Did anyone else notice when Hillary announced the nuclear code procedure to the entire world? if that isn't an opener then all her supporters must be comatose.

You can get that information on the Internet, movies the works.

noise-gate

Looks like it's going to be a landslide.. Well not a complete one but it's going to be devastating.

dr65's avatardr65

Heart wrenching...Pat Smith...son killed in Benghazi..

https://youtu.be/s6q0T3nNd9I 

HILLARY CLINTON HAD THE NERVE TO LAUGH AT THE HEARINGS. 

That is probably even more grotesque than her lies.

https://youtu.be/SqzoN90NH8E

bigbear29

The Trump Show is now ending. Sad!  hehe

bigbear29

Clinton Has 9-Point Lead as Comeback Obstacles Loom for Trump

Ahead of their final debate, the survey “shows movement toward Clinton with all the right groups it takes to win.”

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 20, 2016

Heart wrenching...Pat Smith...son killed in Benghazi..

https://youtu.be/s6q0T3nNd9I 

HILLARY CLINTON HAD THE NERVE TO LAUGH AT THE HEARINGS. 

That is probably even more grotesque than her lies.

https://youtu.be/SqzoN90NH8E

I feel for all the families of those lost in Benghazi.  Hillary is a lying snake.  She calls the family of those who died liars.  The nerve of that woman, she is lower than whale sh*&.    How some of you can even consider voting for her is beyond me.  What if those who died were YOUR family and you were lied to by that snake?

VOTE TRUMP AND KEEP THE SNAKE FROM THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT.

dr65's avatardr65

More proof of a cover up and failure in Benghazi and it is relevant because Hillary stands on a stage last 

night with her s*yt eating grin very confident in the illusion she has what it takes to be President of the

United States.

She IS responsible and got off because the agency's involved are as corrupt as she is..

https://youtu.be/MYX-g6zmbwY

dr65's avatardr65

Trey Gowdy does not let Hillary over talk him or divert questioning..

this is Hillary in the hot seat..

https://youtu.be/htdeeic-byY

Soledad

Quote: Originally posted by Unluckyone on Oct 20, 2016

Did anyone else notice when Hillary announced the nuclear code procedure to the entire world? if that isn't an opener then all her supporters must be comatose.

I find it more telling that Trump said we needed to compete with Russia in building more nuclear weapons. That America is behind in terms of building more said nukes. I don't believe Hilary has ever implied or said that she would use them, unlike Donald. I guess the Don doesn't care for Ted Turner's vote.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Soledad on Oct 20, 2016

I find it more telling that Trump said we needed to compete with Russia in building more nuclear weapons. That America is behind in terms of building more said nukes. I don't believe Hilary has ever implied or said that she would use them, unlike Donald. I guess the Don doesn't care for Ted Turner's vote.

This woman is very good at shifting...views, stories, support, ideas, accounts, testimony, faces too..

there is so much that the American public does not know or forgot about..this is a classic liar..everything to the dropped eyes,

stuttering, body language, double talk, forceful on certain topics to over talk and shut down opposition or confuse a line of 

questions.

Trump isn't a war monger...his gruff style is what is being read into because while trying to make his point, he comes off 

strong and unrefined. Hillary on the other hand is a polished liar, a master of deception and diversion.

When Trump says defend themselves, why don't they? Are we that wealthy and perfect that we can finance protection

of those countries who have no interest or their minds on better things with no equal or substantial contribution from

them? No.

Hillary can say no fly zone in Syria?....and everyone is Cheers bring on the war!! Talk about Nuclear weapons use

is not the only thing that will lead to nuclear war...there are boundries that everyone has to consider and think about.

Going about handling these hot countries with an iron fist and actions to match is not in our best interests. Especially

with Russia.

She has said things that were called upon to be explained and she always had a suave, cool diversionary response to 

confuse the questioner. Watch her closely, she's strong on what she knows by heart...her corrupt message....and very

weak on what she knows are lies and pulling them off.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 20, 2016

Clinton Has 9-Point Lead as Comeback Obstacles Loom for Trump

Ahead of their final debate, the survey “shows movement toward Clinton with all the right groups it takes to win.”

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 20, 2016

This woman is very good at shifting...views, stories, support, ideas, accounts, testimony, faces too..

there is so much that the American public does not know or forgot about..this is a classic liar..everything to the dropped eyes,

stuttering, body language, double talk, forceful on certain topics to over talk and shut down opposition or confuse a line of 

questions.

Trump isn't a war monger...his gruff style is what is being read into because while trying to make his point, he comes off 

strong and unrefined. Hillary on the other hand is a polished liar, a master of deception and diversion.

When Trump says defend themselves, why don't they? Are we that wealthy and perfect that we can finance protection

of those countries who have no interest or their minds on better things with no equal or substantial contribution from

them? No.

Hillary can say no fly zone in Syria?....and everyone is Cheers bring on the war!! Talk about Nuclear weapons use

is not the only thing that will lead to nuclear war...there are boundries that everyone has to consider and think about.

Going about handling these hot countries with an iron fist and actions to match is not in our best interests. Especially

with Russia.

She has said things that were called upon to be explained and she always had a suave, cool diversionary response to 

confuse the questioner. Watch her closely, she's strong on what she knows by heart...her corrupt message....and very

weak on what she knows are lies and pulling them off.

Hilda's appeal comes from people unwilling to believe anyone could be that evil, Trump must be making it up.

She is a natural born liar just like most of the DNC and many of her close friends.

RL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 20, 2016

Heart wrenching...Pat Smith...son killed in Benghazi..

https://youtu.be/s6q0T3nNd9I 

HILLARY CLINTON HAD THE NERVE TO LAUGH AT THE HEARINGS. 

That is probably even more grotesque than her lies.

https://youtu.be/SqzoN90NH8E

First Off : My heart goes out to every American whose life is lost for the greater good. Having said that, why is that to " some" Hillary is totally to blame for what happened in Benghazi? I paid more than the usual attention to the hearings where she sat before Trey and answered in a very coherent fashion by saying in not too many words" we have experts in govt" whose job it is to handle the security matters at Embassies around the world & so forth and so on. She said that part of her job as SOS is hand off responsibility to these folk. To " some" it would seem that a SOS has to be everywhere, to answer for everything. Sounds a lot like BS to me.  When Reagan was asked questions about Iran Contra, his words were " l do not recall".. Hill at least gave Trey an explaination whether people want to believe it or not. When embassies were being bombed during the bush years with Americans dying, l can't recall having one hearing after another. People can see through this smoke screen, others cannot.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 20, 2016

The Trump Show is now ending. Sad!  hehe

I read when it said Trump is turning into a Bore. When asked why, answers ranged from repeating the same thing over and over again, never answering directly but deflecting by changing the topic altogether. Should he lose, his only got one person to blame- that person is looking back at him in the mirror.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 20, 2016

 

http://www.wnd.com/2016/10/rasmussen-delivers-post-debate-poll-triumph-for-trump/

Well now isnt that interesting?   

Thanks for the link RL.

DONT COUNT TRUMP DOWN AND OUT.

VOTE TRUMP AND TAKE BACK AMERICA.

noise-gate

When  Romney ran against Obama his camp was elated at this point in the election because of the polls, but a lot of crying in their  Cheers happened soon after.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 20, 2016

First Off : My heart goes out to every American whose life is lost for the greater good. Having said that, why is that to " some" Hillary is totally to blame for what happened in Benghazi? I paid more than the usual attention to the hearings where she sat before Trey and answered in a very coherent fashion by saying in not too many words" we have experts in govt" whose job it is to handle the security matters at Embassies around the world & so forth and so on. She said that part of her job as SOS is hand off responsibility to these folk. To " some" it would seem that a SOS has to be everywhere, to answer for everything. Sounds a lot like BS to me.  When Reagan was asked questions about Iran Contra, his words were " l do not recall".. Hill at least gave Trey an explaination whether people want to believe it or not. When embassies were being bombed during the bush years with Americans dying, l can't recall having one hearing after another. People can see through this smoke screen, others cannot.

I hated Bush almost as much a Hilda.  They both are champions of world government where the so called global elite

are in charge of everything.   The US is the only power holding this back, they have to chip away bit by bit until all our

rights are gone.   If you think she cares about you watch the video below.  She supports it, supporting her means that

you also support it.   

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgn-da7MAx0

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 20, 2016

 

http://www.wnd.com/2016/10/rasmussen-delivers-post-debate-poll-triumph-for-trump/

RL your assessment of the situation is correct and it's sad..they just blindly believe, it's incredible.

I like the poll ty!!

bigbear29

This post is a disaster a total disaster, disaster.  Sorry, I had to borrow that from trump.  I agree with you 100%, trump has nothing else to talk about, just the same stuff over and over, or he just goes on a rant not really talking about anything.  It is time for trump to take his negativity and go home.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 20, 2016

I hated Bush almost as much a Hilda.  They both are champions of world government where the so called global elite

are in charge of everything.   The US is the only power holding this back, they have to chip away bit by bit until all our

rights are gone.   If you think she cares about you watch the video below.  She supports it, supporting her means that

you also support it.   

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgn-da7MAx0

You know RL I liked the Bush's and given 9/11 right after the election, thought he did a good job.  I had been reading stories and found they were a part of the Bilderberg's which shocked and disappointed me.  After much research found that Prescott Bush (George sr. father) was involved in the New World Order, that was it for me.  The Bush family has since been buying up a lot of land in Peru.  Why?  The WATER.  You own the water you control the people. Right out of New World Order playbook.

dr65's avatardr65

I'm sure this was mentioned above because it seemed to be mighty important last night..and Hillary's

shock and awe at Trump uttering the statement that he won't accept the results...or that he'd see after

the election was like someone took all her money away! The cohorts were shocked too of course and

Sheppard Smith/Fox didn't seem to like it either.

 

But here we go - trump crude again..I know what he meant..for a very, very long time CNN has boldly been

Pro-Hillary...there's been talk about finding elections boxes filled with ballots already marked Hillary in Ohio

and if they're there, they are elsewhere too...the media has been dragging this guy down pretty much the 

whole time...nevermind the rally counts are tremendous and the support for his idea to Make America Great

Again is high...I wouldn't trust a sham media who is supposed to be balanced but has not been..newspapers

and news shows have been on him for a long time. Hillary planting paid people at rally's to raise he*ll shows

the low down of the down low...She needs this election, she wants it and must have it...too much money

invested in her winning that losing is not an option. If she's the big deal behind closed doors maker and big

donation generator for the campaign, then you bet your bottom dollar as much as it can be swayed it will be.

 

Hillary can appear to be completely innocent but anyone with some darn sense can see she's not..She's guilty 

as sin and lots of people know it...she'll do anything to win. Trump knows it too..so for him to say he'll let you

know..isn't a dumb answer...it's a guarded answer...why stand up there and LIE like she does all the time and

say yes, I'll accept the results. I don't give a dayum about tradition...taxes as a tradition..not a law...accepting

outcomes...traditional? LOL....we are in America let's finally friggin move on from POLITICALLY CORRECT and

get real. If the guy doesn't want to say he'll accept any sign of fraud before it's revealed, screw tradition, the 

guy lives the injustice and favoritism and media trash everyday...there IS influence there and it IS heavy.

 

I'll root for Trump and respect the man's idea for a GREAT AMERICA as long as he lives and I live. GO TRUMP!!!!

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 20, 2016

I'm sure this was mentioned above because it seemed to be mighty important last night..and Hillary's

shock and awe at Trump uttering the statement that he won't accept the results...or that he'd see after

the election was like someone took all her money away! The cohorts were shocked too of course and

Sheppard Smith/Fox didn't seem to like it either.

 

But here we go - trump crude again..I know what he meant..for a very, very long time CNN has boldly been

Pro-Hillary...there's been talk about finding elections boxes filled with ballots already marked Hillary in Ohio

and if they're there, they are elsewhere too...the media has been dragging this guy down pretty much the 

whole time...nevermind the rally counts are tremendous and the support for his idea to Make America Great

Again is high...I wouldn't trust a sham media who is supposed to be balanced but has not been..newspapers

and news shows have been on him for a long time. Hillary planting paid people at rally's to raise he*ll shows

the low down of the down low...She needs this election, she wants it and must have it...too much money

invested in her winning that losing is not an option. If she's the big deal behind closed doors maker and big

donation generator for the campaign, then you bet your bottom dollar as much as it can be swayed it will be.

 

Hillary can appear to be completely innocent but anyone with some darn sense can see she's not..She's guilty 

as sin and lots of people know it...she'll do anything to win. Trump knows it too..so for him to say he'll let you

know..isn't a dumb answer...it's a guarded answer...why stand up there and LIE like she does all the time and

say yes, I'll accept the results. I don't give a dayum about tradition...taxes as a tradition..not a law...accepting

outcomes...traditional? LOL....we are in America let's finally friggin move on from POLITICALLY CORRECT and

get real. If the guy doesn't want to say he'll accept any sign of fraud before it's revealed, screw tradition, the 

guy lives the injustice and favoritism and media trash everyday...there IS influence there and it IS heavy.

 

I'll root for Trump and respect the man's idea for a GREAT AMERICA as long as he lives and I live. GO TRUMP!!!!

I Agree!

Couldnt have said it better DR65. 

I WILL VOTE TRUMP TO TAKE BACK AMERICA.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 20, 2016

Looks like it's going to be a landslide.. Well not a complete one but it's going to be devastating.

It's just a simple revolt within the Republican Party and neither Trump or his supporters understand he can't win the election without 100% support. That party is now divided by three, Trump's supporters, Tea Party, and rank and file Republicans. Last night was Trump's chance to convince the undecided and maybe pick up some of the "Clinton is the lesser of two evils" people, but his refusal to accept the results, win or lose sealed the deal.

The Senate and House elections are hardly ever mentioned in this thread, which makes me wonder if the majority discussing this topic believe they are voting for a dictator. Without the "Trump effect" it looks like the Democrats will regain control of the Senate, but will Republican voters who don't like Trump sit this one out and possibly hand control of the House to Democrats.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 20, 2016

Like this?

 

Thanks JAM:

  Happy Halloween ONLY 11 Days away>

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bigbear29

Donald Trump: 'I will totally accept' election results 'if I win'

 

Trump needs a mommy and daddy to help him threw life.

 

That was STUPID trumpy what you said last nignt, now go back and state you did not mean what you said, ok mommy.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 20, 2016

Well now isnt that interesting?   

Thanks for the link RL.

DONT COUNT TRUMP DOWN AND OUT.

VOTE TRUMP AND TAKE BACK AMERICA.

Most polls are rigged by only polling a few people who they already know how they will vote.  The people

they poll are statically set.   If you know that some area is going to vote Hilda then make so many calls to

that area.   It's commonly said that Obama has a 50% approval rating but if we break that down we see a

different story.  If you ask how many strongly agree vs strongly disagree then we see Obama down by 11

points.

Polls can be fudged in many ways that look solid when taken at face value but when certain methods are 

used the results don't fly.  Trump has good reason to question the current polls and don't take what you

see on the major news outlets.

RL

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW_YvozGjsI

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Interesting enough, the numbers in the video above match very closely with those given in the Anomalous poll

I linked in a previous post.   Get the word out.

RL

bigbear29

Donald Trump: 'I will totally accept' election results 'if I win':

Donald Trump said Thursday he will accept the results of next month's election if he wins, a caveat that threatens to cast unprecedented doubt on the legitimacy of the electoral process.

Trump offered a stunning declaration during the final presidential debate that he might not accept the results of next month's election. In his first speech since the debate, Trump seemed to simultaneously double down on the stance he articulated Wednesday night while also trying to clean it up.
Trump argued forcefully during a rally here that he was being asked to "waive" his right to contest the election after critics slammed him for refusing to pledge to accept the results of the election the previous night during the final presidential debate.
Trump is a total CHILD/IDIOT!  If I loose I'm going to take my toys and go home.  If I win, everything is OK!
LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 20, 2016

Donald Trump: 'I will totally accept' election results 'if I win':

Donald Trump said Thursday he will accept the results of next month's election if he wins, a caveat that threatens to cast unprecedented doubt on the legitimacy of the electoral process.

Trump offered a stunning declaration during the final presidential debate that he might not accept the results of next month's election. In his first speech since the debate, Trump seemed to simultaneously double down on the stance he articulated Wednesday night while also trying to clean it up.
Trump argued forcefully during a rally here that he was being asked to "waive" his right to contest the election after critics slammed him for refusing to pledge to accept the results of the election the previous night during the final presidential debate.
Trump is a total CHILD/IDIOT!  If I loose I'm going to take my toys and go home.  If I win, everything is OK!

Yea I heard him say that.  He's rubbing the dem's and the media's nose in it.  Its one of the funniest/greatest things any republican said...Ever!   Give um hell Trump!  Weeeeeeeeeeee

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Oct 20, 2016

Thanks JAM:

  Happy Halloween ONLY 11 Days away>

                                                         DanceSad Cheers Scared Sad Cheers Dance

 Bandit       Jester   Turkey     Clown

That about sums it up for Halloween, they don't even have to dress up.

                  Hillzilla, Billbo, Obuma, KandyKaine

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 20, 2016

I Agree!

Couldnt have said it better DR65. 

I WILL VOTE TRUMP TO TAKE BACK AMERICA.

Ty lejardin Big Smile It's a shame and a sham what they're doing to this man. It is not fair but he needs to remember

the great support he has and he has true believers and not mindless robots. I saw some videos where Hillary's

rally counts are dismal. And RL's link to the ABC poll WOW - I couldn't find it and noticed a note below the video

that it redirects and the results are no longer there.

I guess they took it down. Good let the rotten, dirty, cheaters take everything down. They can't take us down! 

GO TRUMP!!!!!

US Flag

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 20, 2016

Donald Trump: 'I will totally accept' election results 'if I win':

Donald Trump said Thursday he will accept the results of next month's election if he wins, a caveat that threatens to cast unprecedented doubt on the legitimacy of the electoral process.

Trump offered a stunning declaration during the final presidential debate that he might not accept the results of next month's election. In his first speech since the debate, Trump seemed to simultaneously double down on the stance he articulated Wednesday night while also trying to clean it up.
Trump argued forcefully during a rally here that he was being asked to "waive" his right to contest the election after critics slammed him for refusing to pledge to accept the results of the election the previous night during the final presidential debate.
Trump is a total CHILD/IDIOT!  If I loose I'm going to take my toys and go home.  If I win, everything is OK!

Don't stress yourself out bigbear Big Grin

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Just FYI for those of you covered by Obamacare.

When you get your new higher rates :

  • check your states online health insurance  rate filings for 2017. It will give a precentage range for an increase. So if your rate doubles...that is 100%... and the maximum increase listed is 80 %, raise h* ll with your insurance company and demand they follow the filed rates.
  • Also tell your insurance company that you read the online rate filings.  Specifically ask why your individual rate increased and ask for your risk level and the justification...low, moderate, etc. If you think the answer is bs, your state has a state insurance department where you can file an online complaint about your rate increase. You do not need an attorney to do this! If you ask your insurance company for their rate methodology...meaning calculation, they will view you as knowledgeable on the whole rate process.
  • If you cannot get the premium lowered...do ask...it does happen all the time...and you choose to shop around, still consider the complaint.
dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 20, 2016

Just FYI for those of you covered by Obamacare.

When you get your new higher rates :

  • check your states online health insurance  rate filings for 2017. It will give a precentage range for an increase. So if your rate doubles...that is 100%... and the maximum increase listed is 80 %, raise h* ll with your insurance company and demand they follow the filed rates.
  • Also tell your insurance company that you read the online rate filings.  Specifically ask why your individual rate increased and ask for your risk level and the justification...low, moderate, etc. If you think the answer is bs, your state has a state insurance department where you can file an online complaint about your rate increase. You do not need an attorney to do this! If you ask your insurance company for their rate methodology...meaning calculation, they will view you as knowledgeable on the whole rate process.
  • If you cannot get the premium lowered...do ask...it does happen all the time...and you choose to shop around, still consider the complaint.

Send him to jail with Hillary.

That is really rotten but prepare for worse. 200% increases on the way.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 20, 2016

 Bandit       Jester   Turkey     Clown

That about sums it up for Halloween, they don't even have to dress up.

                  Hillzilla, Billbo, Obuma, KandyKaine

Lol

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 20, 2016

Send him to jail with Hillary.

That is really rotten but prepare for worse. 200% increases on the way.

I agree but am trying to give some practical advice to knock something ...even a bit...off those ridiculous increases.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 20, 2016

Yea I heard him say that.  He's rubbing the dem's and the media's nose in it.  Its one of the funniest/greatest things any republican said...Ever!   Give um hell Trump!  Weeeeeeeeeeee

The wailing and gnashing of teeth from the MSM and Democrats aside, I also think it was a good answer.  Maybe he was just thinking of these incidents:

Last week Hillary agreed that Gore ‘won’ 2000 election

Flashback: Gore Refuses to Concede Election

John Kerry Thinks Bush Rigged The 2004 Election

Poll: Voters Have Concerns Over Election Security

Judge rejects Florida Democrats push for new voting rules Change would have allowed ballots to be cast before registration verified

Pennsylvania's aging voting machines could be 'nightmare scenario' in the event of a disputed election

Podesta Says It’s OK for Illegals to Vote With Driver’s License

Madonna pledges oral sex for Clinton voters

OK, that last one had nothing to do with voter fraud, but who wouldn't want that from an expert at it?

Madonna's not a Material Girl, but a Porcupine Girl - if she had as many sticking OUT of her as has been stuck IN her, she'd look like a porcupine.

That must be part of Hillary's payback to her biggest supporters: Hollywood, the MSM, Goldman Sachs and assorted members of Saudi royalty.  She's already practicing.

 photo hillary-O-mouth_zpsiomnqb1t.jpg

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 20, 2016

I agree but am trying to give some practical advice to knock something ...even a bit...off those ridiculous increases.

I know and that will be helpful. It's just dismaying that ObamaCare has big surprises in store. It's a shame.

Some people just can't afford the increases. Ty Artist!Thumbs Up

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 20, 2016

I know and that will be helpful. It's just dismaying that ObamaCare has big surprises in store. It's a shame.

Some people just can't afford the increases. Ty Artist!Thumbs Up

You notice how it has been discussed by just about everybody on the news that these astronomical increases were coming but somehow no one has ever asked the jerk who shoved this down our throats?  Why does HE get away with this?  He should be made to answer for this piece of garbage that is going to bankrupt families. He just saunters off into the sunset leaving the rest of America floundering because he wanted it for HIS legacy.  I hope it goes down in history as the most worthwhile pile it is, what a total 100% disgrace. 

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 20, 2016

I know and that will be helpful. It's just dismaying that ObamaCare has big surprises in store. It's a shame.

Some people just can't afford the increases. Ty Artist!Thumbs Up

I know. My neighbor who is a freelance writer had her premium more than double. I gave her a "script" of what to say to see if she can get it reduced. Her letter said the increases were necessary for bcbs to remain in the ACA. Bs. I have never heard of a $750 plus premium for a healthy below age 50 person.My neighbor is very healthy. I was shocked. I heard the lying press talking about 20% increases, not 100% ones.

 Thank God I am covered by my employer but hearing rumors we may have to contribute next year.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 20, 2016

You notice how it has been discussed by just about everybody on the news that these astronomical increases were coming but somehow no one has ever asked the jerk who shoved this down our throats?  Why does HE get away with this?  He should be made to answer for this piece of garbage that is going to bankrupt families. He just saunters off into the sunset leaving the rest of America floundering because he wanted it for HIS legacy.  I hope it goes down in history as the most worthwhile pile it is, what a total 100% disgrace. 

I agree lejardin.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 20, 2016

This post is a disaster a total disaster, disaster.  Sorry, I had to borrow that from trump.  I agree with you 100%, trump has nothing else to talk about, just the same stuff over and over, or he just goes on a rant not really talking about anything.  It is time for trump to take his negativity and go home.

I had lots of fun posting Trump's "I love the poorly educated" remarks, but I was reminded that lots of people say that about lottery players. So while half of me says to stop mentioning Trump's "poorly educated", the other half says why do they want to show everyone how poorly educated they are.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 20, 2016

The wailing and gnashing of teeth from the MSM and Democrats aside, I also think it was a good answer.  Maybe he was just thinking of these incidents:

Last week Hillary agreed that Gore ‘won’ 2000 election

Flashback: Gore Refuses to Concede Election

John Kerry Thinks Bush Rigged The 2004 Election

Poll: Voters Have Concerns Over Election Security

Judge rejects Florida Democrats push for new voting rules Change would have allowed ballots to be cast before registration verified

Pennsylvania's aging voting machines could be 'nightmare scenario' in the event of a disputed election

Podesta Says It’s OK for Illegals to Vote With Driver’s License

Madonna pledges oral sex for Clinton voters

OK, that last one had nothing to do with voter fraud, but who wouldn't want that from an expert at it?

Madonna's not a Material Girl, but a Porcupine Girl - if she had as many sticking OUT of her as has been stuck IN her, she'd look like a porcupine.

That must be part of Hillary's payback to her biggest supporters: Hollywood, the MSM, Goldman Sachs and assorted members of Saudi royalty.  She's already practicing.

 photo hillary-O-mouth_zpsiomnqb1t.jpg

Omg! Your Madonna statement response, I about fell off my chair.

That wins, hands down for the funniest ever.  Hahahahahahahaha.

but in all honesty, she is such a sleaze lol.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

This post is a disaster a total disaster, disaster.  Sorry, I had to borrow that from trump.  I agree with you 100%, trump bigbear29 has nothing else to talk about, just the same stuff over and over, or he just goes on a rant not really talking about anything.  It is time for trump bigbear29 to take his negativity and go home.

There, fixed it for ya.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 20, 2016

This post is a disaster a total disaster, disaster.  Sorry, I had to borrow that from trump.  I agree with you 100%, trump has nothing else to talk about, just the same stuff over and over, or he just goes on a rant not really talking about anything.  It is time for trump to take his negativity and go home.

I wonder how many times Bill Clinton had to go home and tell Hillary he had dickyleaks, oopsy, better go get some penicillin honey-bunch.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 20, 2016

I wonder how many times Bill Clinton had to go home and tell Hillary he had dickyleaks, oopsy, better go get some penicillin honey-bunch.

Mike and Sully you guys are hilarious, I havent laughed this hard in a long time.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 20, 2016

Mike and Sully you guys are hilarious, I havent laughed this hard in a long time.

lol, Bigboars hero's.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 20, 2016

Oh, and they called it "Disturbing" so patronizing....

How can anyone say a game was fair until the game has ended ?

The media is rigged that's for sure...

And the nerve of her to call Trump a puppet....LOL!!!!!!!

WOW this is Hillafter TRUMP roasted her buddox at the AL SMITH NY "dinner" $$$ Trump really gave her a face "lift" it is GREAT

PartyFUN PartyFUN PartyP***ed  Hippy P***ed   PartyFUN PartyMO "FUN" $

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 20, 2016

I know. My neighbor who is a freelance writer had her premium more than double. I gave her a "script" of what to say to see if she can get it reduced. Her letter said the increases were necessary for bcbs to remain in the ACA. Bs. I have never heard of a $750 plus premium for a healthy below age 50 person.My neighbor is very healthy. I was shocked. I heard the lying press talking about 20% increases, not 100% ones.

 Thank God I am covered by my employer but hearing rumors we may have to contribute next year.

I have good insurance through my employer now, but the first two years of Obamacare, I had the choice of crappy expensive insurance through my old job, more expensive insurance in the health market, or paying the penalty. I paid the penalty. Thank goodness I ended up working for a really good company before the penalty went up even more. But I remain bitter over Obama putting me in that situation. 

Obamacare must go!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Oct 20, 2016

I have good insurance through my employer now, but the first two years of Obamacare, I had the choice of crappy expensive insurance through my old job, more expensive insurance in the health market, or paying the penalty. I paid the penalty. Thank goodness I ended up working for a really good company before the penalty went up even more. But I remain bitter over Obama putting me in that situation. 

Obamacare must go!

A friend of mine, her health care doubled, co-pays went up, when it came time for a mammogram, she decided to let it go another year, figured they could use the money for the kids, well, she just found a lump.

I pray all is well and it's just a scare.

My point, how many people a foregoing routine exams because of the higher insurance and co-pays?

 It is sickening to think how many people will be sicker or maybe terminal because they had to choose between health care and food for their kids.

noise-gate

I read some posts that say "l want Trump to take America back " my question is take it back to what exactly? Where has it been because when l look at the approval of the Senate & Congress, it's not pretty- It would seem that taking " America back" should be getting rid of all the obstructionists in both houses & getting things done There. Obama's approval rating is higher, so the " taking it back" seems to have little to do with his leadership.. Thoughts & facts only.

** The other thing is this talk of " getting rid of Obamacare".. Ok, and replacing it with what exactly? I am serious, since there are millions on Obamacare, where do those folks go for services during the dismantling period?

bigbear29

Donald Trump Gets Booed at Al Smith Dinner After Jabbing Hillary Clinton:

Donald Trump was booed Thursday night at the annual Alfred E. Smith Dinner after delivering a series of jabs at his Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, including trying to riff on a controversial remark he made at the latest presidential debate about her being a "nasty woman."

The dinner in New York, to benefit charity, is supposed to be a light-hearted roast where the presidential candidates take jabs at themselves and each other, but the event came just a day after the particularly nasty third presidential.

During the debate, the candidates didn't shake hands or acknowledge each other before or after the debate.

Trump, who spoke first, tried at first to keep things light-hearted, but quickly turned to harsh criticism about Clinton, who he described as “corrupt.”

“Hillary believes it's vital to deceive the people by having one public policy. And a totally different policy in private. That's okay,” he said, to boos from the crowd. “I don't know who they're angry at, Hillary, you or I? For example, here she is tonight in public, pretending the not to hate Catholics.”

“Now, if some of you haven't noticed, Hillary isn't laughing as much as the rest of us. That's because she knows the jokes and all of the jokes were given to her in advance of the dinner by Donna Brazile,” he added.

Trump was referring to hacked emails released by WikiLeaks. The emails, which have not been independently verified by ABC News, showed a top aide making a joke about the Catholic Church. Another showed Brazile, the DNC chair, passing along possible town hall questions to the Clinton campaign.

Earlier, Trump also joked about the presidential debate Wednesday night where he called Clinton a “nasty woman” -- a comment that drew harsh criticism.

BOO,          BOO,          BOO,BOO,BOO!

bigbear29

Did Donald Trump Just Admit That He’s Going To Lose The Election?:

Trump  may not be prepared to say he’ll officially accept the results of the election, but he appeared to concede during the final presidential debate Wednesday that he’s likely to lose to Hillary Clinton.

During a segment on “foreign hot spots,” Trump began by attacking plans to accept more Syrian refugees into the U.S., saying the country is effectively inviting Islamic State fighters to cross the borders in what would be a “great Trojan horse.” But as he capped off his attack, Trump seemed to let slip that he believed the supposed consequences of such actions would be Clinton’s to deal with.

“Wait until you see what happens in the coming years,” said Trump. “Lots of luck, Hillary. Thanks a lot for doing a great job.”

Maybe Trump is simply reading the writing on the wall. Current predictions suggest he has less than a 5 percent chance of winning in November, with polls showing him trailing by substantial margins in a number of key battleground states. Still, rather than focusing on improving his chances of victory by winning over voters, Trump has spent large portions of the last week complaining that the election is being “rigged” against him.

 

BYE, BYE, trump!

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 20, 2016

A friend of mine, her health care doubled, co-pays went up, when it came time for a mammogram, she decided to let it go another year, figured they could use the money for the kids, well, she just found a lump.

I pray all is well and it's just a scare.

My point, how many people a foregoing routine exams because of the higher insurance and co-pays?

 It is sickening to think how many people will be sicker or maybe terminal because they had to choose between health care and food for their kids.

That is really sad Sully.  Will say a prayer and hope as you do.

Cant help but think this same scenario is and will be playing again all over the U.S. With this nightmare obamacare forced on us. 

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 20, 2016

Did Donald Trump Just Admit That He’s Going To Lose The Election?:

Trump  may not be prepared to say he’ll officially accept the results of the election, but he appeared to concede during the final presidential debate Wednesday that he’s likely to lose to Hillary Clinton.

During a segment on “foreign hot spots,” Trump began by attacking plans to accept more Syrian refugees into the U.S., saying the country is effectively inviting Islamic State fighters to cross the borders in what would be a “great Trojan horse.” But as he capped off his attack, Trump seemed to let slip that he believed the supposed consequences of such actions would be Clinton’s to deal with.

“Wait until you see what happens in the coming years,” said Trump. “Lots of luck, Hillary. Thanks a lot for doing a great job.”

Maybe Trump is simply reading the writing on the wall. Current predictions suggest he has less than a 5 percent chance of winning in November, with polls showing him trailing by substantial margins in a number of key battleground states. Still, rather than focusing on improving his chances of victory by winning over voters, Trump has spent large portions of the last week complaining that the election is being “rigged” against him.

 

BYE, BYE, trump!

Do you wonder why the ClintonNewsNetwork is so anti Trump? It's because of the CNN people that are married or related to the Clinton's. Ah, no wonder...

In the second half of this link, you'll hear how Bill LOST the nuclear codes. Unbelievable.

https://youtu.be/omm4Rt_XSg4

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 20, 2016

I read some posts that say "l want Trump to take America back " my question is take it back to what exactly? Where has it been because when l look at the approval of the Senate & Congress, it's not pretty- It would seem that taking " America back" should be getting rid of all the obstructionists in both houses & getting things done There. Obama's approval rating is higher, so the " taking it back" seems to have little to do with his leadership.. Thoughts & facts only.

** The other thing is this talk of " getting rid of Obamacare".. Ok, and replacing it with what exactly? I am serious, since there are millions on Obamacare, where do those folks go for services during the dismantling period?

"I don’t worry about our losing a republican government in the United States because I’m afraid of a foreign invasion. I don’t worry about it because of a coup by the military, as has happened in some other places. What I worry about is that when problems are not addressed people will not know who is responsible, and when the problems get bad enough — as they might do for example with another serious terrorist attack, as they might do with another financial meltdown — some one person will come forward and say: ‘Give me total power and I will solve this problem.’"

Retired Supreme Court Justice David Souter.

bigbear29

I don't watch that right wing BS!

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

noise-gate,

Back to when there were no 'Sanctuary cities' and people didn't have to worry about themselves or family members getting killed by some illegal alien who should have been deported.

Back to when you could say that anyone here illegally ia an illegal alien. 

Back to when the Border Patrol was allowed to do its job.

Back to when military members that did the job there were trained to do weren't brought up on charges for doing so. 

Back to when a ver small percent of the population didn't dictate to the rest of the population because on ot the former was offended. 

Those are just a few examples.

As for obamacare, the idea was 'affordable' health care.......guess you haven't read some recent posts.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 20, 2016

noise-gate,

Back to when there were no 'Sanctuary cities' and people didn't have to worry about themselves or family members getting killed by some illegal alien who should have been deported.

Back to when you could say that anyone here illegally ia an illegal alien. 

Back to when the Border Patrol was allowed to do its job.

Back to when military members that did the job there were trained to do weren't brought up on charges for doing so. 

Back to when a ver small percent of the population didn't dictate to the rest of the population because on ot the former was offended. 

Those are just a few examples.

As for obamacare, the idea was 'affordable' health care.......guess you haven't read some recent posts.

Well it would seem that these sanctuary cities have been operating since or little before Reagan took office. Question: why did they not act back then to stop this from mushrooming into what it is now since these cities are spread across the United States Coint Toss? Whose responsible for this mess? Are both parties equally responsible for not enforcing the rule of law or is it just the one political party? As for Obama care, l am not defending it- l am simply asking " what do you put in its place?" It's one thing to say get rid of it, but you better have something ready to roll into its place.Thats what l am talking about, l am not passing or putting blame on any one party, l am being objective as l can be.

As for the other things you wrote about, let me say right here and now that l am all for law & order, that covers all the bases, there is no grey area.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

What boggles my mind, is that her security clearance has not been revoked...As Secretary Of State, she committed felonies....she should in no way be eligible for the office of president....this is bizarre....BIZARRE!!!!

adamcustom

Funny thing, the discussion is as heated as in my country where the division line between people goes almost 50/50. I also recognize the same fierceness and high emotions running as high as over here. I thought that you were past that phase long time ago and was wrong.

Adam

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 20, 2016

I don't watch that right wing BS!

No you just watch the left-wing BS.  That's soooooo obvious.

bigbear29

I watch Fox news, CNN, MSNBC and Fox Business news.  What about you?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 21, 2016

No you just watch the left-wing BS.  That's soooooo obvious.

He's putty. They like putty.

bigbear29

Trump is a divider of people and not a uniter of people!

He is considered a racist:

  1.  Failed to disavow the Ku Klux Klan
  2.  Support and praise of white supremacists
  3.  He attacked Muslim Gold Star parents
  4.  Claimed a judge was biased because "he's a mexican"
  5.  He was sued for not renting to Black people
  6.  Discrimination against Black people is a pattern for trump
  7.  He refused to condemn white supremacists
  8.  Questions whether President Obama born in the United States
  9.  Treats racial groups as monoliths
  10.   He trashed Native Americans
  11.   Encouraged mob justice that resulted in wrongful imprisonment of the Central Park Five - all black guys
  12.   He condoned beating of a black lives matter protester
  13.   Called supporter who beat up homeless latino man "passionate"
  14.   Stereotyped Jews and an anti-semitic meme created by white supremacists
  15.   He treats African Americans supporters as tokens to dispel he's not a racist
dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by adamcustom on Oct 21, 2016

Funny thing, the discussion is as heated as in my country where the division line between people goes almost 50/50. I also recognize the same fierceness and high emotions running as high as over here. I thought that you were past that phase long time ago and was wrong.

Adam

Poland Thumbs Up ty for posting.

What is your country saying about our elections? Is there a preference?

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

It's 10:30 EST...where is LP posters on this site???? Did you stay up all night nite???? Will you sleep all day????  Only Hill is allowed to sleep all DAY cause she can AFFORD it, of course!!!! Can you afford 2 miss winning a big      lottery jackpot today MM & Saturday PB$$$$ Maby you can but,don't blame Psyko cause me want a LP member    to hit a BIG WON>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ REAL SOON !!

$$$ Wake-up & Smell the"MONEY"$$$ 

 

                                         Hurray!PartyPartyPartyHurray! 

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Psykomo, 7:47 pst and I am here and checking my tickets from earlier this week and looking at my new tickets!

A lottery win is ALWAYS on my mind first and foremost.

Good luck to you !

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 21, 2016

Psykomo, 7:47 pst and I am here and checking my tickets from earlier this week and looking at my new tickets!

A lottery win is ALWAYS on my mind first and foremost.

Good luck to you !

Morning LJ:

Just having a GOOD DAY>>>>and keep a positive altitude 4D rest of the day and thru the weekend>>>>PSYKO  Filled out MM & PB early AM today.....had some luck using frequency formula to pick these numbers last weekend.  HOPE one R both of us kick one over the post.....$$$$ this weekend>>>XMAS & spend yo money season is  hear AGAIN.....TRUMP or HILL will be N charge after Nov 8th and Obamo now bring in 80,000 oppressed R4GEE's    from all over the world and Central America with some bill he already signed. They are automatic on the gov rolls. HAVE NO FEAR, if 80,000 can hit the gov lottery and git a free 100% paid vacation to the USA, then we can     pay to play the  Mega Million and Power Ball  LOTTEY and WIN millions...remember, ALL WE NEED IS LUCK.

                          Hurray!PartyDancePartyJack-in-the-BoxPartyDancePartyHurray!          

bigbear29

‘Bury Trump in a Landslide’: Daily News goes nuclear on GOP nominee:

The Daily News published a blistering, 14-chapter editorial that railed against Donald Trump and everything that he stands for.

Its front page on Friday morning: “NEWS TO AMERICA: BURY TRUMP IN A LANDSLIDE. Restore U.S. honor with giant defeat of the fearmongering demagogue.”

The New York tabloid has long established itself as one of Trump’s foes. When the Manhattan businessman launched his presidential campaign in the summer of 2015, the Daily News depicted the Republican as a clown. In turn, Trump has repeatedly tweeted that the newspaper is “failing” and “worthless.”

But Friday’s editorial, which clocks in at more than 7,900 words, might be the most scathing attack on Trump from any newspaper in the country.

And because Trump refused to say at Wednesday’s presidential debate that he would accept the election results, the Daily News urged the public to deliver an unequivocal message on Election Day.

“Trump’s reckless willingness to damage trust in the electoral process — in order to save face and hold leadership of the paranoid wing of U.S. politics — is the most pressing reason why voters must defeat him in a landslide,” the paper wrote. “Herewith, we fervently pray, is the political obituary of Donald Trump and all that he stands for,” it added.

The editorial offers a point-by-point takedown of Trump across 14 chapters that question his policy positions, his business record, his fitness to serve and even his sanity: “TRUMP THE DEMAGOGUE,” “TRUMP THE FRAUDSTER,” “TRUMP THE HEAD CASE,” “TRUMP THE FAKE PHILANTHROPIST,” “TRUMP THE LIAR,” “TRUMP THE FLIP-FLOPPER,” “TRUMP THE IGNORAMUS,” “TRUMP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIST,” “TRUMP THE TAX EVADER,” “TRUMP THE DIVIDER,” “TRUMP THE AUTHORITARIAN,” “TRUMP THE SECURITY RISK,” “TRUMP THE MISOGYNIST” and, finally, “TRUMP THE ENEMY OF DEMOCRACY.”

Punctuating each chapter is a scorching image from the paper’s cartoonist, Bill Bramhall. The first chapter’s cartoon, for instance, depicts Trump as Hitler. The “Ignoramus” chapter’s cartoon shows Trump unable find the U.S. on a world map. The “Authoritarian” chapter features a shirtless Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin riding a horse on “Barfback Mountain.” Yet another shows President Trump firing nuclear missiles and then asking his generals if he can retract the order.

“Donald Trump is ending his campaign in an ever more inflammatory and destructive assault on American democracy,” the editorial concludes. “The end of his presidential dreams must come under an avalanche of anti-Trump votes on Nov. 8.”

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Oct 21, 2016

Morning LJ:

Just having a GOOD DAY>>>>and keep a positive altitude 4D rest of the day and thru the weekend>>>>PSYKO  Filled out MM & PB early AM today.....had some luck using frequency formula to pick these numbers last weekend.  HOPE one R both of us kick one over the post.....$$$$ this weekend>>>XMAS & spend yo money season is  hear AGAIN.....TRUMP or HILL will be N charge after Nov 8th and Obamo now bring in 80,000 oppressed R4GEE's    from all over the world and Central America with some bill he already signed. They are automatic on the gov rolls. HAVE NO FEAR, if 80,000 can hit the gov lottery and git a free 100% paid vacation to the USA, then we can     pay to play the  Mega Million and Power Ball  LOTTEY and WIN millions...remember, ALL WE NEED IS LUCK.

                          Hurray!PartyDancePartyJack-in-the-BoxPartyDancePartyHurray!          

Thank you Psykomo:  Good to hear your have had a little luck with your number picks.  I am hit and miss and make a little bit but I still keep in the games.  A win this time of year sure would be welcome!

Cant wait for Oblamo to be out of office, his damage just keeps coming and I pray Oblamo2 doesnt get in.  Who knows what they will steal from the White House the second time around.

VOTE TRUMP!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Right out of the Huffington post.

RL

  1.  Failed to disavow the Ku Klux Klan  <- the KKK was started by the demo's
  2.  Support and praise of white supremacists<- again KKK was started by the demos
  3.  He attacked Muslim Gold Star parents  <- they are morons, their son would not be proud of them
  4.  Claimed a judge was biased because "he's a mexican" <- To my knowledge his parents came were illegally.  Conflict of interest
  5.  He was sued for not renting to Black people <-  I am sure he views that as a mistake, old news.    
  6.  Discrimination against Black people is a pattern for trump  <- I don't see it, you must be talking about Hilda
  7.  He refused to condemn white supremacists <- again KKK was started by the demos
  8.  Questions whether President Obama born in the United States  <-  Hilda's started it, she raised the question first.  Trump finished it
  9.  Treats racial groups as monoliths  <- I would love to be considered a monolith.
  10.   He trashed Native Americans  <- Like they don't abuse the system, get real.  I am of native American decent or did you forget. 
  11.   Encouraged mob justice that resulted in wrongful imprisonment of the Central Park Five - all black guys. <- Mob justice, really!
  12.   He condoned beating of a black lives matter protester  <- So do I.
  13.   Called supporter who beat up homeless latino man "passionate" <- context, context, context.
  14.   Stereotyped Jews and an anti-semitic meme created by white supremacists  <- but allowed his daughter to marry a Jew, hmmmm.
  15.   He treats African Americans supporters as tokens to dispel he's not a racist  <- and Hilda and Berry have made Black's prosperous? 
RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Psyco

You can bet each one will be handed a ballot already filled out.   Obama and Clinton are snakes, I hope after Trump is

elected they both rot in jail or hung for treason.

RL

bigbear29

WHY ARE YOU SUCH A IDIOT!

Martin said the KKK was created by the Democratic Party. He acknowledged he was wrong. Historians say the KKK consisted of a group of Southern whites after the Civil War who were Democrats. But there's no evidence the KKK was created by their political party.  Not the Democratic Party, MORON!

You are a TOTAL IDIOT!

YES you, A total idiot!  MORON!

IDIOT!

The government does not make you prosperous!  IDIOT!

Total MORON!

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Hillary has repeatedly referenced free college tuition but I am surprised that Trump hasn't mentioned the atrocity, affectionately known by liberals as Common Core.  Federal grants are held hostage until public schools abide by this left wing, government backed indoctrination of our children. The same Gestapo tactic is applied to lunch programs that are forced to only offer what Michelle Obama considers, good, wholesome and nutritious meals. I have witnessed first hand the waste taking place as the majority of the children absolutely hate the meals thereby disposing most of it and are now bringing their own lunches.

I am appalled that the teaches are only promoting Islam and are forced to ignore all other faiths. Either give a brief review on ALL religions or none at all. We need a complete overhaul of our education system as we don't even rank in the top 20 among developed nations and yet our teachers receive one of the highest compensation package. In the public school system, our children are open to being brainwashed from kindergarten and on up through college.

Besides keeping the poor permanently dependent on the government and controlling health care, indoctrination of our most vulnerable citizens...our children. This is just another guideline in Saul Alinky's socialism playbook and as many of us already know, Hillary Clinton was a prized student of the late professor.

bigbear29

So, are you stating that Native Americans abuse the system?  I guess that includes SULLY too right.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

So, are you stating that Native Americans abuse the system?  I guess that includes SULLY too right.

                    OUCH!!!!!

bigbear29

People abuse the system of all races.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trump rally in Johnstown, PA.  Live stream starts in about an hour.  Gonna watch bear?  You might learn something.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 21, 2016

Trump rally in Johnstown, PA.  Live stream starts in about an hour.  Gonna watch bear?  You might learn something.

Love it, there are a LOT of supporters.  Sure doesnt look like he is losing supporters like the media will have you believe.

VOTE TRUMP AND TAKE BACK AMERICA

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 21, 2016

Trump rally in Johnstown, PA.  Live stream starts in about an hour.  Gonna watch bear?  You might learn something.

  Well he sure is making his rounds today cause it will be in my area around 7:30 tonite...

bigbear29

No, I don't want to waste my time for someone who is totally done.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

No, I don't want to waste my time for someone who is totally done.

Who told you he is totally done?  CNN?  LOL!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 21, 2016

  Well he sure is making his rounds today cause it will be in my area around 7:30 tonite...

You going to see him DEE?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Bear is afraid to watch a Trump rally.  Because Trump makes sense and he might change bear's mind.

bigbear29

I have seen a trump rally, I was not impressed.

bigbear29

Why do you think trump is talking about the elections are rigged!  If trump was winning, do you think trump would be stating that the elections are rigged?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

I have seen a trump rally, I was not impressed.

So what did he say that you don't agree with?

bigbear29

I totally disagree with trump, he does not have the knowledge to run a nation.

bigbear29

Trump is also not trusted, release your taxes or release the IRS letter that states your taxes are in audit. It is that simple and he has done neither.

bigbear29

Trump is a racist and if he is not, he plays to the racist people.

bigbear29

Trump is going to change Washington and all he has done is piss people off.  Nothing is going to change.

Trump does not have the right attitude or knowledge to change Washington.

noise-gate

He dumps women when they get old & ugly. Since when is getting old & ugly grounds for divorce? With such irrational behavior in one's personal life it's no wonder the general public don't know what he will do or say next. 

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

‘Bury Trump in a Landslide’: Daily News goes nuclear on GOP nominee:

The Daily News published a blistering, 14-chapter editorial that railed against Donald Trump and everything that he stands for.

Its front page on Friday morning: “NEWS TO AMERICA: BURY TRUMP IN A LANDSLIDE. Restore U.S. honor with giant defeat of the fearmongering demagogue.”

The New York tabloid has long established itself as one of Trump’s foes. When the Manhattan businessman launched his presidential campaign in the summer of 2015, the Daily News depicted the Republican as a clown. In turn, Trump has repeatedly tweeted that the newspaper is “failing” and “worthless.”

But Friday’s editorial, which clocks in at more than 7,900 words, might be the most scathing attack on Trump from any newspaper in the country.

And because Trump refused to say at Wednesday’s presidential debate that he would accept the election results, the Daily News urged the public to deliver an unequivocal message on Election Day.

“Trump’s reckless willingness to damage trust in the electoral process — in order to save face and hold leadership of the paranoid wing of U.S. politics — is the most pressing reason why voters must defeat him in a landslide,” the paper wrote. “Herewith, we fervently pray, is the political obituary of Donald Trump and all that he stands for,” it added.

The editorial offers a point-by-point takedown of Trump across 14 chapters that question his policy positions, his business record, his fitness to serve and even his sanity: “TRUMP THE DEMAGOGUE,” “TRUMP THE FRAUDSTER,” “TRUMP THE HEAD CASE,” “TRUMP THE FAKE PHILANTHROPIST,” “TRUMP THE LIAR,” “TRUMP THE FLIP-FLOPPER,” “TRUMP THE IGNORAMUS,” “TRUMP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIST,” “TRUMP THE TAX EVADER,” “TRUMP THE DIVIDER,” “TRUMP THE AUTHORITARIAN,” “TRUMP THE SECURITY RISK,” “TRUMP THE MISOGYNIST” and, finally, “TRUMP THE ENEMY OF DEMOCRACY.”

Punctuating each chapter is a scorching image from the paper’s cartoonist, Bill Bramhall. The first chapter’s cartoon, for instance, depicts Trump as Hitler. The “Ignoramus” chapter’s cartoon shows Trump unable find the U.S. on a world map. The “Authoritarian” chapter features a shirtless Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin riding a horse on “Barfback Mountain.” Yet another shows President Trump firing nuclear missiles and then asking his generals if he can retract the order.

“Donald Trump is ending his campaign in an ever more inflammatory and destructive assault on American democracy,” the editorial concludes. “The end of his presidential dreams must come under an avalanche of anti-Trump votes on Nov. 8.”

I see that since I posted the other day that the Daily News is very anti-Trump, that now you are going to start posting every thing they say about Donald. However, I have yet to hear any comments from you about the article they had about Hillary. I guess there is a chance that you didn't see it, so here it is again. I wonder if they are going to do a 5 page editorial about Hillary next Friday... I'll be surprised if they do.

WASHINGTON — A top State Department official allegedly offered the FBI a “quid pro quo” if the agency downgraded the classification of one of the emails on Hillary Clinton’s server, new documents the FBI released Monday show.

According to notes of an internal interview with one of the FBI’s own officials, Undersecretary of State Patrick Kennedy tried last summer to get the FBI to change a classified email to unclassified status, offering to let the FBI put agents in more foreign countries in exchange.

That conversation allegedly happened during the interagency review of Clinton’s emails in preparation for their public release, as the FBI and State Department debated over what information should be withheld from the public.

More than 100 emails were eventually deemed classified after the fact.

  The names of all involved were redacted in the release.

“(Redacted) received a call from (redacted) of the International Operations Division (IOD) of the FBI, who ‘pressured’ him to change the classified email to unclassified. (redacted) indicated he had been contacted by Patrick Kennedy, undersecretary of state, who had asked his assistance in altering the email’s classification in exchange for a ‘quid pro quo,’ ” read the interview notes. “(Redacted) advised that, in exchange for marking the email unclassified, State would reciprocate by allowing the FBI to place more agents in countries where they are presently forbidden.”

An unnamed official alleges that Kennedy followed up this request by asking during a private meeting whether the FBI could “see their way to marking the email unclassified?”

“According to (redacted), Kennedy spent the next 15 minutes debating the classification of the email and attempting to influence the FBI to change its markings.”

 

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump stands next to Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton during the second presidential debate at Washington University in St. Louis on Oct. 9, 2016.
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Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton face off during US presidential debates

That exchange could create another headache for Clinton, who for more than a year has struggled to move beyond questions about her private email server and whether she shared classified information in an unclassified setting.

Donald Trump’s campaign quickly jumped on the news, accusing Clinton of collusion.

“These FBI documents provide undeniable proof that Hillary Clinton colluded with the FBI, (Department of Justice) and State Department to cover up criminal activity at the highest levels,” retired Gen. Michael Flynn, a top surrogate, said in a statement.

But the FBI said in a statement that there was never any “quid pro quo,” clarifying that the FBI officer was actually the one who initially raised the issue of getting Kennedy to allow more FBI officials in foreign countries.

“Any assertion that this was somehow a tit-for-tat or a quid pro quo, or exchange in that manner is, frankly, insulting,” State Department spokesman Michael Toner said.

“It’s very well known that there were disputes between the State Department and other agencies about classification. It’s not unusual,” Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook said.

bigbear29

Looks like you are wrong!  I do not just go to certain websites for trump news.  I do a globe search for trump/hillary news and there is not a whole lot of Hillary news.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

Looks like you are wrong!  I do not just go to certain websites for trump news.  I do a globe search for trump/hillary news and there is not a whole lot of Hillary news.

Then you're not looking very hard. Try this, go to Google, and then type in, youtube Hillary.

noise-gate

Whatever the FBI said or did not say Pails in comparison to Secretary Powell going before the nation and whipping out vials that he said were the size of biological WMD that Saddam & his ilk were  cooking up in " mobile labs"....information that led to the deaths of thousands of good Anerican lives.

bigbear29

Anybody can post on youtube, I trust the news more than I trust youtube.  Youtube, REALLY!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

WHY ARE YOU SUCH A IDIOT!

Martin said the KKK was created by the Democratic Party. He acknowledged he was wrong. Historians say the KKK consisted of a group of Southern whites after the Civil War who were Democrats. But there's no evidence the KKK was created by their political party.  Not the Democratic Party, MORON!

You are a TOTAL IDIOT!

YES you, A total idiot!  MORON!

IDIOT!

The government does not make you prosperous!  IDIOT!

Total MORON!

Double b

Your words mean nothing, i ve been tested.  You need to dig a little deeper and now it's coming out that Russia

was not behind the hacking as Hilda claimed.   You sound upset, maybe you should step back and take a break.

Before you do take a look at the link below.  It does however seem Johnson was correct sad as it is.

You've made your distaste for Trump evident and maybe rightly so but what I can't understand is how you can

still support Hilda.  I think going from Bernie to Hilda must feel like licking the bottom of the crap bucket.  After all

she called Bernie a doofus.  Maybe that's the reason you feel the need to call me a Idiot.  Don't worry about it as

your words roll off like water off a ducks back.   Are you afraid you or a loved one will be deported if Trump wins? 

Just a guess but like I said I am very limited in my analysis as to why you still support her.   I myself would never

support someone who called my first choice a doofus, If Bernie was a doofus then what does that say to those

who followed him.  I mean if a doofus is a leader then by all accounts the followers must be even lower.   Take some

time off, it's ok with me and I don't think anyone else would mind.

RL 

http://www.snopes.com/lbj-voting-democratic/

bigbear29

Case and point,  on youtube, type in Hillary is sick

 

Look at how many bs videos are shown.

bigbear29

Hillary has the knowledge to run the nation!  It's been proven that Trump's economic plan will not work.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 20, 2016

I wonder how many times Bill Clinton had to go home and tell Hillary he had dickyleaks, oopsy, better go get some penicillin honey-bunch.

"Such a nasty woman"....Donald J. Trump

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

Anybody can post on youtube, I trust the news more than I trust youtube.  Youtube, REALLY!

Double b

That might be your problem.  Social media may be the only news source that can trusted to have even a little

truth.  I really like the live poll I posted a link to earlier which had Trump at 70% and Hilda at 8%.  Funny thing

is, is that it was a major news networks poll.  What's really sad is that at the same time this poll was going on

they were posting the same old crap.  Two stories going on at the exact same time by the same major network

that were miles apart.  It reminded me of Baghdad Bob saying Iraq was winning the war when US tanks were

in the video right behind him.  I often wonder what happened to that Baghdad Bob,  maybe he now works for

Hilda.

RL

bigbear29

Donald Trump, Somewhat Subdued, Admits He Might Lose Election:

Donald J. Trump projected confidence on Friday, but also seemed to prepare for at least the possibility of an Election Day loss, as he and Hillary Clinton courted their supporters with competing public events for the first time in more than a week.

Addressing a rally in Fletcher, N.C., in the more rural western part of the state, Mr. Trump offered a slightly more restrained version of his typically freewheeling speech, largely seeming to hew to his prepared remarks.

Gone were his complaints of a “rigged” and “stolen” election — which have drawncondemnation by Democrats and Republicans alike — and he did not, as he has recently, try to beat back accusations from 10 women who have come forward to accuse him of inappropriate sexual advances.

Instead, Mr. Trump offered an unusually candid, if still self-congratulatory, assessment of his debate performances — “I think the first one was fine, I think we won, easily, the second one, and the third one was our best,” he said — and acknowledged the possibility that he might not end up in the White House, after all.

The Trump campaign has said that Mr. Trump plans to increase his schedule in the final weeks, potentially holding as many as six rallies a day. Mr. Trump explained that he wanted to have no regrets should he lose.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

What a fighter, unlike Hilda who runs to her donors, Trump goes to the people.  Take some time off and get some

rest, your grasping at straws.  The bulk of the emails have yet to be analyzed and it's 100% certain with the few

that have been that Hilda's private email server broke enough laws to send he to jail for the rest of her life.  Anyone

who can stick their head in the sand and ignore this is, well not much of a person IMHO.   Corruption like this I thought

was only in the movies.  She will never be my president and it would not say much for the people who vote for her.

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Before you vote for Hillary, watch this. This is Hillary and Comey.

 

https://youtu.be/KUBE4YlTXvE

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Trump did call Hilda a fighter, she's willing to fight to keep her lies going no matter the cost.

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 21, 2016

Trump did call Hilda a fighter, she's willing to fight to keep her lies going no matter the cost.

RL

The election IS rigged.  George Soros, who is Hillary's top donor, says Trump wins the popular vote in a landslide, but Hillary wins the election, it's a done deal. WTF!!!

https://youtu.be/I7ICyTkhDQc

noise-gate

Anyone who says they still " have not made up their mind" as to who they going to vote for:  is lying or is a cave dweller.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 21, 2016

The election IS rigged.  George Soros, who is Hillary's top donor, says Trump wins the popular vote in a landslide, but Hillary wins the election, it's a done deal. WTF!!!

https://youtu.be/I7ICyTkhDQc

Yeah, it's not how you vote but who counts the votes.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

So, are you stating that Native Americans abuse the system?  I guess that includes SULLY too right.

Thanks for the racism Bigbear, The difference between me and you, I would never insult you for you gender, race or religious beliefs.

Just for the record, I do on occasion have a glass of wine, so I am not a drunk Indian, we've been labeled that also.

As far as Trump's remarks, when the casino craze started, many people came out claiming Indian ancestry. they all of a sudden wanted to cash in.

Elizabeth Warren claims Cherokee Ancestry, but she is not on any of the rolls she does not have a Indian card, nor does her Birth Certificate show Indian parentage.

In order for any Tribe to have you on the rolls, you have to show pedigree.

Now she got free college, so someone on the inside passed her through without vetting her. Corruption from someone milking the Government.

I went to Community College, my employer paid 50% I paid the other 50%, I did not apply for any assistance or Grants.

I have an Associates in Quality Control, which is what my employer at the time was paying for.

My husband has had the same job for 35 years, he is a master machinist and is paid top dollar, He takes very good care of me and our son.

I now for the first time in 16 years have gotten a full time job, Just got my third week in, why did I find full time work?Because I see the writing on the wall, If Hillary is elected, we will pay more for Health care, Taxes, food and all kinds of good and services. I feel a sh*t storm coming, even with all the chaos in the Country and World, I feel like it's just the calm before the storm.

bigbear29

Your boy RL stated that, not me.

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Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

Your boy RL stated that, not me.

He did not insult me for being Indian, you did, he quite simply stated a true fact, Many people of all colors abuse the system, I how ever am not one of them.

bigbear29

He stated that native americans abuse the system, do you?  I stated people abuse the system.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

So, are you stating that Native Americans abuse the system?  I guess that includes SULLY too right.

This is you right? I am Sully Right?

bigbear29

This is the original

Trump is a divider of people and not a uniter of people!

He is considered a racist:

  1.  Failed to disavow the Ku Klux Klan
  2.  Support and praise of white supremacists
  3.  He attacked Muslim Gold Star parents
  4.  Claimed a judge was biased because "he's a mexican"
  5.  He was sued for not renting to Black people
  6.  Discrimination against Black people is a pattern for trump
  7.  He refused to condemn white supremacists
  8.  Questions whether President Obama born in the United States
  9.  Treats racial groups as monoliths
  10.   He trashed Native Americans
  11.   Encouraged mob justice that resulted in wrongful imprisonment of the Central Park Five - all black guys
  12.   He condoned beating of a black lives matter protester
  13.   Called supporter who beat up homeless latino man "passionate"
  14.   Stereotyped Jews and an anti-semitic meme created by white supremacists
  15.   He treats African Americans supporters as tokens to dispel he's not a racist
bigbear29

this is the reply

 

Right out of the Huffington post.

RL

  1.  Failed to disavow the Ku Klux Klan  <- the KKK was started by the demo's
  2.  Support and praise of white supremacists<- again KKK was started by the demos
  3.  He attacked Muslim Gold Star parents  <- they are morons, their son would not be proud of them
  4.  Claimed a judge was biased because "he's a mexican" <- To my knowledge his parents came were illegally.  Conflict of interest
  5.  He was sued for not renting to Black people <-  I am sure he views that as a mistake, old news.   
  6.  Discrimination against Black people is a pattern for trump  <- I don't see it, you must be talking about Hilda
  7.  He refused to condemn white supremacists <- again KKK was started by the demos
  8.  Questions whether President Obama born in the United States  <-  Hilda's started it, she raised the question first.  Trump finished it
  9.  Treats racial groups as monoliths  <- I would love to be considered a monolith.
  10.   He trashed Native Americans  <- Like they don't abuse the system, get real.  I am of native American decent or did you forget. 
  11.   Encouraged mob justice that resulted in wrongful imprisonment of the Central Park Five - all black guys. <- Mob justice, really!
  12.   He condoned beating of a black lives matter protester  <- So do I.
  13.   Called supporter who beat up homeless latino man "passionate" <- context, context, context.
  14.   Stereotyped Jews and an anti-semitic meme created by white supremacists  <- but allowed his daughter to marry a Jew, hmmmm.
  15.   He treats African Americans supporters as tokens to dispel he's not a racist  <- and Hilda and Berry have made Black's prosperous?
bigbear29

my reply to RL

So, are you stating that Native Americans abuse the system?  I guess that includes SULLY too right.

 

That should have been a question mark and not a period.

I'm not a racist and was not trying to insult you, than this is my bad, sorry.  I can not stand people (trump) who are racist or act like a racist.

I do not know why trump is supported when he groups race under one title, if that makes sense.  He never states some or people in this or that location, it is all under one title.  So I should not walk down the street because I might get shot. 

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 21, 2016

Well it would seem that these sanctuary cities have been operating since or little before Reagan took office. Question: why did they not act back then to stop this from mushrooming into what it is now since these cities are spread across the United States Coint Toss? Whose responsible for this mess? Are both parties equally responsible for not enforcing the rule of law or is it just the one political party? As for Obama care, l am not defending it- l am simply asking " what do you put in its place?" It's one thing to say get rid of it, but you better have something ready to roll into its place.Thats what l am talking about, l am not passing or putting blame on any one party, l am being objective as l can be.

As for the other things you wrote about, let me say right here and now that l am all for law & order, that covers all the bases, there is no grey area.

noise-gate

(Sorry it took a while to answer)

The sanctuary cities of the past were more like places someone could go on the lam or to the mattresses, not places for rapists and murderers to hang out as if they have diplomatic immunity.

Let's go back to the days of the waves of immigrants going through Ellis Island. They came here for religious freedom and opportunities to get jobs and start businesses, not to bleed the system dry

When WWII came along many of them fought for America against their former homelands.

dr65's avatardr65

Hillary's $12 Million dollar commitment from Moroccan King...isn't this dirty? Extremely.

Clinton Foundation again....involved with country with human rights violations but enough

money for Clinton not to even consider that..

Abedin email (wikileaks yay!!) stated the $12 Million was off the table if Hillary did not speak 

at the meeting...read it and RAGE... more sick revelations...corrupt witch...

http://nyp.st/2ecbAa2

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 21, 2016

Hillary's $12 Million dollar commitment from Moroccan King...isn't this dirty? Extremely.

Clinton Foundation again....involved with country with human rights violations but enough

money for Clinton not to even consider that..

Abedin email (wikileaks yay!!) stated the $12 Million was off the table if Hillary did not speak 

at the meeting...read it and RAGE... more sick revelations...corrupt witch...

http://nyp.st/2ecbAa2

Thanks for posting that link, dr65. Further proof that everything she says about being for, or caring for, or fighting for people is just total BS  Is there anything she won't do for a buck?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 21, 2016

Yeah, it's not how you vote but who counts the votes.

You can bet the Dems won't forget to count the dead people's votes too.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

my reply to RL

So, are you stating that Native Americans abuse the system?  I guess that includes SULLY too right.

 

That should have been a question mark and not a period.

I'm not a racist and was not trying to insult you, than this is my bad, sorry.  I can not stand people (trump) who are racist or act like a racist.

I do not know why trump is supported when he groups race under one title, if that makes sense.  He never states some or people in this or that location, it is all under one title.  So I should not walk down the street because I might get shot. 

Let me see, Trump often talks off the top of his head and says things that can be considered racist.

Hilda claims to be for the minorities but in 30 years of politics has not done anything for them but

make them dependant on government handouts.  Hmmmmmm.   The media paints Trump as a racist

over any little thing and ignores all the criminal activities Hilda is involved in.  She should be dressed

in a orange jumper with a number tag.   I am sure that Sully knows how tribal leaders are corrupt and

I doubt that she receives any money for her native American heritage, I don't either. 

The biggest things against Hilda are yet to be seen.  Google is blocking a lot of searches concerning the

leaked emails.  Funny thing is that they are claiming we should not pay any attention to them because

they are stolen while the US uses spies in every other country in the world stealing information.  I don't

think Trump is a racist but I find most who accuse him are.  To make their point stick they have to use

political correctness.  Blacks lives matter is one of the most racist groups I have ever seen including the

KKK.  One wants to kill all the whites and the other wants to kill all the blacks.  In all my years I have 

met very few real white racist, I would say less than a dozen.  I want to live around people who share

my morals and values, does this make me a racist?  If so I wear the badge proudly.  What I see is people

using the race card for whatever, whenever they think it will help their cause. 

 

Perfect example of the crap people believe

I do not know why trump is supported when he groups race under one title, if that makes sense.  He never

states some or people in this or that location, it is all under one title.  So I should not walk down the street

because I might get shot. 

 

Trump is dammed if he does and dammed if he don't.  "I am going to rebuild this nation and make it prosperous

again."  The minorities would claim he was talking to the white people because he did not mention them, is it racist

to try and include minorities so that they know he will work for them?   Bill Clinton claims Trump wants to go back to

the time when the white man controlled everything.  IMHO Bill Clinton is a lump of excrement playing the race card

and many a fool has fallen for it.   Just like the major news networks are doing now and the fools are lining up. 

RL 

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 21, 2016

The election IS rigged.  George Soros, who is Hillary's top donor, says Trump wins the popular vote in a landslide, but Hillary wins the election, it's a done deal. WTF!!!

https://youtu.be/I7ICyTkhDQc

This is very disturbing.  He also owns the company that puts out the voting machines. Those same machines they are reporting that their vote defaults to the Democrat.  If you arent paying attention when you vote you might be in for a surprise. 

Every step of the way they are cheating. 

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 21, 2016

This is very disturbing.  He also owns the company that puts out the voting machines. Those same machines they are reporting that their vote defaults to the Democrat.  If you arent paying attention when you vote you might be in for a surprise. 

Every step of the way they are cheating. 

The machines, and the polls....I tried several polls after the debate, but when I tried to vote Trump, I was redirected .....Hillary bitching about the russians meanwhile it is Soros and Co.  interfering...

If you vote for Hillary, you're really voting for Soros...

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I going to pick up more ammo tomorrow for the upcoming reloveution.  I guess the dems will make up some kind

of excuse for Hilda and George as they won't believe what they hear and see.  I don't think you will be seeing

that video on any network. 

RL

dr65's avatardr65

Look at 'dead broke Hillary'...living in miserable middle class!!...and this is just one of MANY houses...

http://clashdaily.com/2015/06/here-are-two-houses-can-you-guess-which-is-rubios-and-which-is-hillarys/

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 21, 2016

You can bet the Dems won't forget to count the dead people's votes too.

Don't forget the illegal immigrants... They can vote too.  John Podesta says it's ok.

https://shar.es/1E8dlM

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 21, 2016

Don't forget the illegal immigrants... They can vote too.  John Podesta says it's ok.

https://shar.es/1E8dlM

This is just in our face bizarre stuff!

 

VOTE TRUMP!

Americans first!

dr65's avatardr65

I believe there is too much money, too many promises, too many pledged favors, too many deals and too 

many hands that all want their money for pushing in every way possible for Hillary to win the White House.

Heads will roll if this doesn't work out for them. They have too much invested and for her to lose means

things will be exposed and people will go down because when this breaks it will be too big, too much and too

scandalous for them to escape. There is too much riding on a win for Hillary.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 21, 2016

I believe there is too much money, too many promises, too many pledged favors, too many deals and too 

many hands that all want their money for pushing in every way possible for Hillary to win the White House.

Heads will roll if this doesn't work out for them. They have too much invested and for her to lose means

things will be exposed and people will go down because when this breaks it will be too big, too much and too

scandalous for them to escape. There is too much riding on a win for Hillary.

I agree, they underestimated Donald though.....even if he doesn't win, at least he will have exposed some layers of the corruption.

Got to peel that onion, no matter how much we want to cry.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 21, 2016

This is just in our face bizarre stuff!

 

VOTE TRUMP!

Americans first!

I gotta say one thing. Trump says a lot of stuff that a lot of people think is "off the wall," but if you look back, he has been right about a lot of what he says.

Him not being a politician, he can say things that the politicians wouldn't dream of saying out of political correctness, because they know if they aren't PC, it will hurt their chances of getting re-elected. I wonder if deep down, they wish they could just say whatever they want, but are afraid to. Fortunately, most people are becoming fed up with their PC BS.

Political correctness. Thumbs Down

US Flag  TRUMP 2016

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 21, 2016

Thanks for posting that link, dr65. Further proof that everything she says about being for, or caring for, or fighting for people is just total BS  Is there anything she won't do for a buck?

yw! I don't think there is anything she won't do for money or any country she won't take money from.

How dare she double speak and try and tell people she's aghast over things Trump has said when she holds

both hands out for the money from countries who have DONE what she publicly is supposedly fighting against.

I suspect her defense would be that she can only speak for what takes place in the US concerning human rights.

Yet behind closed doors and in what she thought were private emails (again YAY Wikileaks!!) she practices her

open border policy by letting funds pour in from anywhere she can let them.

 

Some of the media are focusing, especially with this new release on Morocco, on her attempted diversion tactic

to the question on the Clinton Foundation at the last debate..interesting to review her classic switch and hope they

forget...she was supposed to answer whether or not she kept her promise, not go on about how wonderful the

Foundation is...Who cares they have the highest rating? Hillary is supposed to be ahead 9 points in the polls..

highest rating/ahead in the polls...same crooked people spreading those lies...and LOL! she tried to talk right over

Trump and Wallace but had to shut her lying trap when Wallace didn't forget and Trump told the truth..

LOLOL Hillary said: a 6 foot portrait of Donald? wow, that broke the bank...

 

 

Oh and don't get me started on Haiti..that's an abomination and those poor people are STILL suffering. Clinton 

Foundation and all other charities raised 1/2 Billion dollars and they live in shacks with no water, no electric and

no decent housing. Where is the money HILLARY? They didn't get it and that's why Haiti HATES the Clintons.

 

Pay for Play rehash..(great counter by Trump)

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-third-presidential-questions-of-conflicts-aside-hillary-1476934304-htmlstory.html

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

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bigbear29

Trump often talks off the top of his head and says things that can be considered racist. - (trump is running for the highest office in the nation.  there should NOT be anything that might be considered racist.  So he needs a team with him at all times to explain what he meant say?) 

Hilda claims to be for the minorities but in 30 years of politics has not done anything for them but make them dependant on government handouts.  (universal health care to her focus on social and economic development and empowerment, Hillary has carved out a clear history of supporting the backbone of American democracy, and haven’t turned her gaze away from focusing on strengthening families all across America. As a testament to this fact, Hillary Co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families).    I don't think Trump is a racist but I find most who accuse him are.  (trump is a racist or he acts like a racist to get their votes.  I think he's a total racist).   Blacks lives matter is one of the most racist groups I have ever seen including the KKK.  (Black Lives Matter is an activist movement in the United States that began in the wake of the July 2013 acquittal of George Zimmerman in the Florida shooting death of African-American teen Trayvon Martin. The Black Lives Mattermovement campaigns against police brutality in the United States against African-Americans.  No black lives matter is not a racist group and they never hung anybody).  One wants to kill all the whites and the other wants to kill all the blacks.  (FALSE, they are not out to kill people!)  I want to live around people who share my morals and values, does this make me a racist?  (it depends on what your  morals and values are.  But you sound like a racist.)  The minorities would claim he was talking to the white people because he did not mention them, is it racist  to try and include minorities so that they know he will work for them?  (trump did not even reach out to the black community until he realized that he needed the black votes.)  Bill Clinton claims Trump wants to go back to  the time when the white man controlled everything.  (I think that is true.  Trump has talked about every race in a negative way except the white race.)

 

Trump is not the right person to be the President!  He is all TALK!  How can one person make so many people so angry?

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

When I saw this I immediately thought of you, bigbore.

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RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 21, 2016

I believe there is too much money, too many promises, too many pledged favors, too many deals and too 

many hands that all want their money for pushing in every way possible for Hillary to win the White House.

Heads will roll if this doesn't work out for them. They have too much invested and for her to lose means

things will be exposed and people will go down because when this breaks it will be too big, too much and too

scandalous for them to escape. There is too much riding on a win for Hillary.

The problem is that there is too little cash and way too much debt.  There is only a small amount of actual cash

to cover the debt, the big banks will call the loans and what cash there is will be sucked out.  This is bad enough

but the people will still owe what they owe. 

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 21, 2016

When I saw this I immediately thought of you, bigbore.

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Instant classic Mike.  Green laugh Green laugh

bigbear29

Stop talking about your Mommy!

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

Stop talking about your Mommy!

Who's your Mommy???

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

Stop talking about your Mommy!

My mom's dead, just so you know in the future to adjust your puerile, pusillanimous pissant insults accordingly.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 21, 2016

Who's your Mommy???

I'm pretty sure he doesn't know who his daddy is.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Black lives matter is a product of George and Hilda, funded by George.  Trump does not need the Black vote nearly

as bad as they need him.  If he does not win the election he goes back to living the life he had before, and so will

the Blacks.  Who do you think will get the short end of the stick?

RL

bigbear29
  1.  Donald Trump Mocks Asians Using Broken English During Iowa Campaign Rally
  2.   Donald Trump “If Black Lives Don’t Matter, Then Go Back to Africa

Donald Trump continues to alienate everyone but rich white men in a press conference held today while speaking about the protests from groups holding up signs that say, “Black Lives Matter” in South Carolina where racially-motivated violence continues after several black churches have been burned to the ground after Dylan Roof shot up another church.

 

“THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS RACISM ANYMORE. WE’VE HAD A BLACK PRESIDENT SO IT’S NOT A QUESTION ANYMORE. ARE THEY SAYING BLACK LIVES SHOULD MATTER MORE THAN WHITE LIVES OR ASIAN LIVES? IF BLACK LIVES MATTER, THEN GO BACK TO AFRICA? WE’LL SEE HOW MUCH THEY MATTER THERE.”

 

Trump also talks about Hispanics.

This is why trump will not get the Black, Hispanics, Asian and Muslim votes.

bigbear29

You are a total IDIOT!

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 21, 2016

The problem is that there is too little cash and way too much debt.  There is only a small amount of actual cash

to cover the debt, the big banks will call the loans and what cash there is will be sucked out.  This is bad enough

but the people will still owe what they owe. 

RL

I saw an article or news story (can't remember which) talking about personal /credit card debt. Basically they were saying how there is not enough cash in the US to cover all the debt we have. And if it all had to be paid off it would collapse the economy. Same thing with our national debt and all the money we owe to other countries.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

You are a total IDIOT!

Yo' momma.

bigbear29

And I'm not stupid!

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

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RL-RANDOMLOGIC

You think I am rich, while I paid off my debt I am not rich.  On the upside a person who does not owe anything,

everything they have is expendable cash.   I support trump.

RL

bigbear29

Who's your daddy??

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

And I'm not stupid!

Oh, but you've proved you ARE, dozens and dozens of times.  Why, you haven't even figured out how to quote someone when you're replying to them.

bigbear29

Watch it, you are about to be my brother in BLUE!!!!!

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 21, 2016

Oh, but you've proved you ARE, dozens and dozens of times.  Why, you haven't even figured out how to quote someone when you're replying to them.

I was just thinking the same thing. Should we show him?

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 22, 2016

I was just thinking the same thing. Should we show him?

I didn't like reading his crap the first time, no way I'm going to go back through his posts and point out all his grammatical errors, his blatant copyright infringement and his out-and-out lies.  Is that what you mean?

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 22, 2016

Watch it, you are about to be my brother in BLUE!!!!!

If you mean by quoting me, then by all means, do that. You really should read my words of truth and wisdom twice...they sure aren't sinking into your thick skull the first time.  If you need me to use smaller words so you can understand them, I'll try to do better in the future.

bigbear29

Texas will be a DEMOCRATIC STATE!!!!!!!!  BLUE!!!!!

Are you moving out?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

my reply to RL

So, are you stating that Native Americans abuse the system?  I guess that includes SULLY too right.

 

That should have been a question mark and not a period.

I'm not a racist and was not trying to insult you, than this is my bad, sorry.  I can not stand people (trump) who are racist or act like a racist.

I do not know why trump is supported when he groups race under one title, if that makes sense.  He never states some or people in this or that location, it is all under one title.  So I should not walk down the street because I might get shot. 

Don't worry about it; Sully said lots of nasty stuff about the Patel Indian Tribe.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 22, 2016

Texas will be a DEMOCRATIC STATE!!!!!!!!  BLUE!!!!!

Are you moving out?

I saw you make that claim several pages back and did a little research on it.  That was from a University of Houston poll, and they didn't list their methodology.  If they polled only college stupids students, then it's no wonder they got the results they wanted did.  Houston is Democrat, true, same for the Valley and other sections, but Hillary won't win Texas.  We've just had an influx of Californians and Eastern people coming for the jobs, but bringing their failed politics with them.  More and more are moving out as the price of gas and oil remain low, thank goodness.

No, won't move out.  Texas is my home, I love it.  People like you shouldn't move here though, you'd get your ass kicked in about five seconds if you talked in "real life" like you do in here.

bigbear29

Oh I'm shaking, I better not move to texas.  I was very close to moving to Austin, we could have been buddies, hey buddy.

 

A message from mikey,

dear mr. trump,

I would like to thank you for turning texas BLUE.  Job well done!

bigbear29

Oh I'm not worried.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

No, I meant should we show him how to include the post in a reply.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

WATCH – Black Teen Makes AMAZING Video to Support TRUMP – It’s Spreading Like Wildfire!

A very patriotic, intelligent young black man created a Donald Trump video that is blowing up on social media. The common sense this teenager possesses is quite impressive—he and millions of young Americans like him deserve the chance to have a bright and free future!

“You know why I endorse Donald Trump? Because I want a future,” C.J. Pearson said in the Donald Trump endorsement video. “Ever since I endorsed Donald Trump, yesterday, I’ve endured tons of hate.”

C.J. Pearson went on to say he has been called an “Uncle Tom” by Trump haters on social media. The brave young man is 13 years old and just started his freshman year at age 13 at Evans High School in Evans, Georgia.

The horrific verbal attacks against the young black Donald Trump supporter have happened in person as well. One of his public school teachers reportedly told him he “was not worth saving in a fire” because he supported the Republican candidate.

The same male teacher, Michael Garrison, reportedly went on to tell the student he “hated him.” Liberals only support our First Amendment right to free speech when the words being uttered fit their warped view on the issues and their socialistic narrative.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 22, 2016

No, I meant should we show him how to include the post in a reply.

Nah, he's too functionally illiterate to learn anything.  Besides, you have to WANT to learn before you CAN learn. He loves wallowing in his abject ignorance.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 22, 2016

I saw you make that claim several pages back and did a little research on it.  That was from a University of Houston poll, and they didn't list their methodology.  If they polled only college stupids students, then it's no wonder they got the results they wanted did.  Houston is Democrat, true, same for the Valley and other sections, but Hillary won't win Texas.  We've just had an influx of Californians and Eastern people coming for the jobs, but bringing their failed politics with them.  More and more are moving out as the price of gas and oil remain low, thank goodness.

No, won't move out.  Texas is my home, I love it.  People like you shouldn't move here though, you'd get your ass kicked in about five seconds if you talked in "real life" like you do in here.

Assault is illegal across the United States and Texas is a part of it.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 21, 2016

You can bet the Dems won't forget to count the dead people's votes too.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Get your Hillary for prison bobble head

 

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But you better hurry, because this is a limited edition item.

The product’s description reads, 

“Are you sick of seeing Crooked Hillary break the law but somehow avoid going to jail? Well, now is your chance to see Hillary the way she belongs–in a prison jumpsuit. Made of durable polyresin, this limited edition collector’s item features America’s most hated politician in classic prison clothing, adorned with a ball and chain. Illegal email server sold separately. “

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 21, 2016

This is very disturbing.  He also owns the company that puts out the voting machines. Those same machines they are reporting that their vote defaults to the Democrat.  If you arent paying attention when you vote you might be in for a surprise. 

Every step of the way they are cheating. 

Democracy can not survive without the trust of the people and the peaceful tranfer of power. Democracy is a fragile invention, failure to recognize that your candidate lost will end democracy in the country.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 21, 2016

The machines, and the polls....I tried several polls after the debate, but when I tried to vote Trump, I was redirected .....Hillary bitching about the russians meanwhile it is Soros and Co.  interfering...

If you vote for Hillary, you're really voting for Soros...

Jamora, thank you for confirming what I saw, read and heard. 

Hillary/Soros "who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes"

Talk diversion.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Lost and stolen are two different matters....I wouldn't cede without fairness....

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 22, 2016

WATCH – Black Teen Makes AMAZING Video to Support TRUMP – It’s Spreading Like Wildfire!

A very patriotic, intelligent young black man created a Donald Trump video that is blowing up on social media. The common sense this teenager possesses is quite impressive—he and millions of young Americans like him deserve the chance to have a bright and free future!

“You know why I endorse Donald Trump? Because I want a future,” C.J. Pearson said in the Donald Trump endorsement video. “Ever since I endorsed Donald Trump, yesterday, I’ve endured tons of hate.”

C.J. Pearson went on to say he has been called an “Uncle Tom” by Trump haters on social media. The brave young man is 13 years old and just started his freshman year at age 13 at Evans High School in Evans, Georgia.

The horrific verbal attacks against the young black Donald Trump supporter have happened in person as well. One of his public school teachers reportedly told him he “was not worth saving in a fire” because he supported the Republican candidate.

The same male teacher, Michael Garrison, reportedly went on to tell the student he “hated him.” Liberals only support our First Amendment right to free speech when the words being uttered fit their warped view on the issues and their socialistic narrative.

Nice....just what we need... people awake....he'll go far with his cognitive reasoning...

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 20, 2016

noise-gate,

Back to when there were no 'Sanctuary cities' and people didn't have to worry about themselves or family members getting killed by some illegal alien who should have been deported.

Back to when you could say that anyone here illegally ia an illegal alien. 

Back to when the Border Patrol was allowed to do its job.

Back to when military members that did the job there were trained to do weren't brought up on charges for doing so. 

Back to when a ver small percent of the population didn't dictate to the rest of the population because on ot the former was offended. 

Those are just a few examples.

As for obamacare, the idea was 'affordable' health care.......guess you haven't read some recent posts.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798

You use the term "sanctuary cities" without the slightest clue about what they mean even though it's right in the words. Sanctuary cities are places that won't deport undocumented immigrants who have not committed violent or felony crimes. Last I checked murder is both violent and a felony everywhere. 

Offensive term is offensive and you get called out for using an offensive term. Shocker. 

Obamacare is a far right wing disaster https://www.google.com/amp/www.msnbc.com/msnbc/the-heritage-foundation-disowns-its-baby/amp repeal and replace it with something better like socialized medicine or at least single payer.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 22, 2016

WATCH – Black Teen Makes AMAZING Video to Support TRUMP – It’s Spreading Like Wildfire!

A very patriotic, intelligent young black man created a Donald Trump video that is blowing up on social media. The common sense this teenager possesses is quite impressive—he and millions of young Americans like him deserve the chance to have a bright and free future!

“You know why I endorse Donald Trump? Because I want a future,” C.J. Pearson said in the Donald Trump endorsement video. “Ever since I endorsed Donald Trump, yesterday, I’ve endured tons of hate.”

C.J. Pearson went on to say he has been called an “Uncle Tom” by Trump haters on social media. The brave young man is 13 years old and just started his freshman year at age 13 at Evans High School in Evans, Georgia.

The horrific verbal attacks against the young black Donald Trump supporter have happened in person as well. One of his public school teachers reportedly told him he “was not worth saving in a fire” because he supported the Republican candidate.

The same male teacher, Michael Garrison, reportedly went on to tell the student he “hated him.” Liberals only support our First Amendment right to free speech when the words being uttered fit their warped view on the issues and their socialistic narrative.

You used the words liberals and socialist like they are at all related. Liberals like Obama and Hillary are center-right moderate conservatives who need to go back to the Republkcan party so that the Democrats can start electing REAL socialists, or it at least centrists like Bernie.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 22, 2016

Nah, he's too functionally illiterate to learn anything.  Besides, you have to WANT to learn before you CAN learn. He loves wallowing in his abject ignorance.

The lack of self-perception in this post is to the nth degree. I would call this "the pot calling the kettle black" but this is far beyond that.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 22, 2016

The lack of self-perception in this post is to the nth degree. I would call this "the pot calling the kettle black" but this is far beyond that.

If you think bigbore is smart, then you're as dumb as he is.  I already know you're clueless and naive, but I had given you credit for intelligence....looks like I was wrong. Sorry 'bout that. 

You're still sore because I schooled you back in this thread around page 25, think it was.  You know, where I proved you were lying and full of it, destroyed your BS point-by-point.  You couldn't even come up with a rebuttal other than "nuh uh".   I see you're at it again with the insipid "center-right" argument.  SMH

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 22, 2016

Assault is illegal across the United States and Texas is a part of it.

It could happen to you, too.  I'd stay far away if I were you.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 22, 2016

You used the words liberals and socialist like they are at all related. Liberals like Obama and Hillary are center-right moderate conservatives who need to go back to the Republkcan party so that the Democrats can start electing REAL socialists, or it at least centrists like Bernie.

Liberals like Obama and Hillary are center-right moderate conservatives...

You do know that's contradictory, don't you?   Are they liberals or are they center-right moderate conservatives? 

I worked up a rebuttal to you the last time on that very point and saved it to a Notepad document but after the last spanking I gave you, I thought it would be overkill.  I'll have to find it, but there's so MANY files with the title "DERP_BS", I'll have to dig for it.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 22, 2016

Democracy can not survive without the trust of the people and the peaceful tranfer of power. Democracy is a fragile invention, failure to recognize that your candidate lost will end democracy in the country.

Do not assume you know the outcome of this election unless you have an in with ole Hillary and Soros.

Also, I have made it to my age and all these years without your help.  I do not need to schooled by the likes of you. 

Peddle your condescending crapp to someone who needs it like poopbear.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 22, 2016

Do not assume you know the outcome of this election unless you have an in with ole Hillary and Soros.

Also, I have made it to my age and all these years without your help.  I do not need to schooled by the likes of you. 

Peddle your condescending crapp to someone who needs it like poopbear.

You think, what with all that schooling, that he'd know the difference between a Democracy and what the U.S. actually is, a Constitutional Federal Republic with a strong democratic tradition.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 22, 2016

You think, what with all that schooling, that he'd know the difference between a Democracy and what the U.S. actually is, a Constitutional Federal Republic with a strong democratic tradition.

What I saw was he managed to tell five different people how uninformed he thinks we are.   I really know nothing him about but after that entrance, post after post insulting us, I will add him to the ignore list. Not going to waste my time reading his garbage, what we have here is another knowitall.   Dupe Alert

I guess you have had the "pleasure" of conversing? 

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 22, 2016

WATCH – Black Teen Makes AMAZING Video to Support TRUMP – It’s Spreading Like Wildfire!

A very patriotic, intelligent young black man created a Donald Trump video that is blowing up on social media. The common sense this teenager possesses is quite impressive—he and millions of young Americans like him deserve the chance to have a bright and free future!

“You know why I endorse Donald Trump? Because I want a future,” C.J. Pearson said in the Donald Trump endorsement video. “Ever since I endorsed Donald Trump, yesterday, I’ve endured tons of hate.”

C.J. Pearson went on to say he has been called an “Uncle Tom” by Trump haters on social media. The brave young man is 13 years old and just started his freshman year at age 13 at Evans High School in Evans, Georgia.

The horrific verbal attacks against the young black Donald Trump supporter have happened in person as well. One of his public school teachers reportedly told him he “was not worth saving in a fire” because he supported the Republican candidate.

The same male teacher, Michael Garrison, reportedly went on to tell the student he “hated him.” Liberals only support our First Amendment right to free speech when the words being uttered fit their warped view on the issues and their socialistic narrative.

A fine young man.  I wish him the best. It infuriates me what his teacher has done.  My hope his treatment is exposed and the teacher gets fired deservedly so.  I have never heard such a disgusting comment as that.  Thinking he isnt the only one experiencing this treatment.

We need Trump to hear about this and expose this teacher for the lowlife he is.  Also bring this young man to one of his rallies.

VOTE TRUMP AND SAVE AMERICAN FROM THE LIARS AND CHEATS.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 22, 2016

What I saw was he managed to tell five different people how uninformed he thinks we are.   I really know nothing him about but after that entrance, post after post insulting us, I will add him to the ignore list. Not going to waste my time reading his garbage, what we have here is another knowitall.   Dupe Alert

I guess you have had the "pleasure" of conversing? 

I had the pleasure of utterly destroying his repeated lies and BS with facts and links.  I'll send you a link to the post in an email or PM.  He's a smug, conceited useful idiot who has no real world experience but thinks he knows everything.  Todd took him down a notch at the very first of the thread, was great.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 21, 2016

And I'm not stupid!

You really seem to Care a lot about this Election, I'm gonna Call you Carebear Smiley

bigbear29

Yes I care a lot about this election.  We have someone that does not have the knowledge to run the nation, and someone that does.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 22, 2016

Yes I care a lot about this election.  We have someone that does not have the knowledge to run the nation, and someone that does.

So Hillary has the knowledge to run the nation?  Give me an example of one of her great accomplishments as Secretary of State?  From what I understand, she was a failure.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 21, 2016

Let me see, Trump often talks off the top of his head and says things that can be considered racist.

Hilda claims to be for the minorities but in 30 years of politics has not done anything for them but

make them dependant on government handouts.  Hmmmmmm.   The media paints Trump as a racist

over any little thing and ignores all the criminal activities Hilda is involved in.  She should be dressed

in a orange jumper with a number tag.   I am sure that Sully knows how tribal leaders are corrupt and

I doubt that she receives any money for her native American heritage, I don't either. 

The biggest things against Hilda are yet to be seen.  Google is blocking a lot of searches concerning the

leaked emails.  Funny thing is that they are claiming we should not pay any attention to them because

they are stolen while the US uses spies in every other country in the world stealing information.  I don't

think Trump is a racist but I find most who accuse him are.  To make their point stick they have to use

political correctness.  Blacks lives matter is one of the most racist groups I have ever seen including the

KKK.  One wants to kill all the whites and the other wants to kill all the blacks.  In all my years I have 

met very few real white racist, I would say less than a dozen.  I want to live around people who share

my morals and values, does this make me a racist?  If so I wear the badge proudly.  What I see is people

using the race card for whatever, whenever they think it will help their cause. 

 

Perfect example of the crap people believe

I do not know why trump is supported when he groups race under one title, if that makes sense.  He never

states some or people in this or that location, it is all under one title.  So I should not walk down the street

because I might get shot. 

 

Trump is dammed if he does and dammed if he don't.  "I am going to rebuild this nation and make it prosperous

again."  The minorities would claim he was talking to the white people because he did not mention them, is it racist

to try and include minorities so that they know he will work for them?   Bill Clinton claims Trump wants to go back to

the time when the white man controlled everything.  IMHO Bill Clinton is a lump of excrement playing the race card

and many a fool has fallen for it.   Just like the major news networks are doing now and the fools are lining up. 

RL 

I Agree! Yep , On all accounts.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 22, 2016

No, I meant should we show him how to include the post in a reply.

I tried to tell him, but.....

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 22, 2016

So Hillary has the knowledge to run the nation?  Give me an example of one of her great accomplishments as Secretary of State?  From what I understand, she was a failure.

Hey, she made herself rich with her "foundation".

Hey, she "lost" 30,000 classified emails.

And......she let 4 Americans die without lifting a finger to try to save them in Benghazi.

"Accomplishments".

bigbear29

Why I donated $20 million to defeat Donald Trump: Facebook co-founder Dustin Moskovitz:

Facebook (NASDAQ: FB) co-founder Dustin Moskovitz wants to keep Donald Trump out of the White House and he's digging into his deep pockets in an effort to make that happen.

The billionaire told CNBC on Friday he recently pledged $20 million to Democratic groups because he felt the need to act after hearing some of the rhetoric coming from Republicans — particularly during the Republican National Convention.

"I think it's apparent to every American that this is a special election. The stakes are extremely high," he said in an interview with " Power Lunch ."

"We just felt really compelled to, sort of, get off the sidelines and help ensure that the Democrats were able to win the election."

"The polarization in America today has yielded a race that is about much more than policies and ideas," he wrote. "It has become a referendum on who we want to be — as individuals, as a nation and as a society."

The money will be split among several organizations, including the League of Conservation Voters and For Our Future political action committee.

bigbear29

1. Her China speech on women.
2. Her role in killing Osama bin Laden.
3. Management of the State Department during which time we saw a 50 percent increase in exports to China, aggressive work on climate (particularly at Copenhagen), and the effort to create and implement the toughest sanctions ever on Iran—helping to lead us to the agreement currently on the table.

 



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Hillary Clinton is one of the most accomplished people ever to run for the Presidency. I’m lucky enough to have seen those accomplishments up close from her time as Senator from New York and as Secretary of State. Hillary Clinton was instrumental in helping secure $21 billion in federal aid to help New York rebuild after 9/11. She fought tooth and nail to protect the first responders who rushed into danger when the towers collapsed and was pivotal in the passage of legislation that helped those first responders who got sick get the care and treatment they deserved. She worked night and day to protect and create jobs in New York, whether that was at the Niagara Falls Air Force base or the Center for Bioinformatics at the University of Buffalo. She also led the charge on the Lilly Ledbetter Pay Equity Act, which is now the law of the land.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 22, 2016

1. Her China speech on women.
2. Her role in killing Osama bin Laden.
3. Management of the State Department during which time we saw a 50 percent increase in exports to China, aggressive work on climate (particularly at Copenhagen), and the effort to create and implement the toughest sanctions ever on Iran—helping to lead us to the agreement currently on the table.

 



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Hillary Clinton is one of the most accomplished people ever to run for the Presidency. I’m lucky enough to have seen those accomplishments up close from her time as Senator from New York and as Secretary of State. Hillary Clinton was instrumental in helping secure $21 billion in federal aid to help New York rebuild after 9/11. She fought tooth and nail to protect the first responders who rushed into danger when the towers collapsed and was pivotal in the passage of legislation that helped those first responders who got sick get the care and treatment they deserved. She worked night and day to protect and create jobs in New York, whether that was at the Niagara Falls Air Force base or the Center for Bioinformatics at the University of Buffalo. She also led the charge on the Lilly Ledbetter Pay Equity Act, which is now the law of the land.

Her speech in China on women?  LOL!

Her role in killing Osama?  OK so she said yes.  Wow, anyone would have done that.

Yea, soybeans, cotton and scrap metal.  LOL and LOL again.

dr65's avatardr65

Smokin' Joe Biden...wants to take Trump behind the gym over his comments about women in 2005.

He needs to apologize and retract his statement but sadly he probably won't be required to do so.

I don't care if 2 old farts want to duke it out let them for all I care. 

But for the same reason Michele Obama and Clinton can jump on Trump for any little thing he says, I'm

jumping on Biden. It's the principle of the matter.

 

Today school districts embrace the message of not accepting bullying in any form. No teasing, no insulting,

no name calling, no cyber attacks, no stalking, no hurting anyone in any way. They don't even allow dodge

ball anymore. Biden isn't in school and his comments will probably be swept under the carpet because he

was 'wishing' he was younger and in school. Very stupid Vice President. His comments are of most importance

because he is a public service representative. He is serving absolutely no one but his party when he attempts

to stand up against what is wrong with what is even more wrong. 

 

To want to take someone behind the school is bullying, it is threatening and it is out of line especially in our

society today which goes out of its way to classify every statement as racist, sexist or bullying. He is sending

the message that even the people in charge of anti-anything campaigns wish they could do what they are trying

to prevent. Doesn't that stamp a big, fat VOID on the movement? I expect an apology - since we are

constantly reminded of Trump and his 'racist' remarks: Keep Illegal Immigrants Out, Deport Illegal Immigrants,

Illegal Immigrants are Responsible for Crime, Housekeeper, Build a Wall and so on and so on. BUT that is not

the biggest reason I want an apology. 

It's this:

 

There are kids today contemplating suicide because of threats. There are kids that are no longer here because the

threats of being beaten-up were too much to bear. There are kids today that cut themselves because the pain is too

much to handle. There are kids today who do drugs, drink alcohol and do not respect their bodies due to low self

esteem brought on by the bullies that taunt them on a daily basis in school and on the internet. These kids do not

deserve this and they DO NOT deserve the empowerment the cowards that abuse them got with JOE BIDEN's desire

to take Trump behind the gym.

 

His comment is a huge double standard that had no business coming from the Vice President of the United States.

It is 2016, he is in a position of great visibility. In 2005, Trump was a play boy businessman..no connection whatsoever

to the government and its multimillion dollar campaigns on racism, sexism and bullying in schools. HUGE DIFFERENCE.

 

I EXPECT THAT APOLOGY TODAY AND WILL IN FACT BE MAKING SOME CALLS. THE DOUBLE STANDARD NEEDS TO STOP.

bigbear29

As Secretary of State, Secretary Clinton was not only inspirational figure for billions of women around the globe, she also did much to restore the shattered credibility of the United States, which had lost so much influence following the failed foreign policies of the previous administration. She negotiated the cease-fire in Gaza that stopped the Hamas from firing rocket after rocket into Israel. She helped secure the START treaty’s ratification, and has advanced women’s rights in countries around the globe. That’s just a snapshot of what Hillary Clinton has accomplished over a lifetime of public service to New York and the country. If you really want to stump a Democrat, you should ask them which of Hillary’s accomplishments is your favorite—there are too many to choose from

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bigbear29

‘Rebuilding America’s leadership and prestige overseas after the Bush years’

Bill Richardson is a former secretary of energy and governor of New Mexico.

As Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton was key in rebuilding America’s leadership and prestige overseas after the Bush years. She restored our alliances with the EU and key Asian allies as well as key relationships in Africa and Latin America.



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dr65's avatardr65

Anyone who doesn't understand the complexity of this issue and importance of speaking out against what Biden

said and wants to continue to protect and promote this kind of leadership can honestly go to He*ll.

bigbear29

Asian-American Voters Are Diverse But Unified Against Donald Trump:

The new National Asian American Survey shows that Asian-American registered voters are increasingly identifying as Democrats. The Democratic edge over Republicans has increased by 11 percentage points since 2012, according to the NAAS, which was released last week. The 2016 survey also found that 59 percent of respondents favor Hillary Clinton in this year’s presidential election while only 16 percent prefer Donald Trump — 26 percent are either undecided or favor a third-party candidate.

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Oct 22, 2016

You really seem to Care a lot about this Election, I'm gonna Call you Carebear Smiley

Uh oh lol.  Are the silly lovey dovey emoticons about to start again?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Odd thing about this thread, the Hillary supporters are constantly in an attack Trump mode but there's no mention whatsoever of anything Hillary has accomplished.

bigbear29

10 Donald Trump Business Failures:

  1.   Trump Airlines - $365 million failure!
  2.   Trump Vodka -  FAILURE!
  3.  Trump Mortgage  -  FAILURE!
  4.  Trump - The Game  -  FAILURE!
  5.  Trump - The China Connection  -  Trump owes 950 million dollars (Bank of China and Goldman Sachs)
  6.  Trump Casinos  -   Chapter 11 bankruptcy
  7.  Trump Steaks  -  Trump Steakhouse 51 health code violations, Closed down
  8.  Trump Magazine -  Closed down
  9.  GoTrump.com  -  Closed down
  10.  Trump University  -  In 2013, the New York Attorney General sued Trump and the “university” for $40 million for allegedly defrauding students.
lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Oct 22, 2016

You really seem to Care a lot about this Election, I'm gonna Call you Carebear Smiley

He CARES about this election, are you kidding me?  CAREBEAR good grief.  Clearly you have not been reading ALL the posts on this thread or researched for yourself. 

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 22, 2016

I had the pleasure of utterly destroying his repeated lies and BS with facts and links.  I'll send you a link to the post in an email or PM.  He's a smug, conceited useful idiot who has no real world experience but thinks he knows everything.  Todd took him down a notch at the very first of the thread, was great.

Todd needs to step back in.  You bet he is a knowitall.  He constantly posts bs, has to be be a paid troll, and is paid by each bs post.

Helpmewin needs to go back and read it ALL before she calls the dimwit Carebear. 

bigbear29

Trump is now on tv Whining and lying to his followers because he is losing.  All Trump had to do is LISTEN to his campaign manager, "STAY ON MESSAGE"!  If trump is elected, he will destroy the United States!  All lies from a person(trump) that has no CLUE what he is talking about = total destruction.  Trump is going to do a list of stuff in the first 100 days of being in office, REALLY!

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 22, 2016

Smokin' Joe Biden...wants to take Trump behind the gym over his comments about women in 2005.

He needs to apologize and retract his statement but sadly he probably won't be required to do so.

I don't care if 2 old farts want to duke it out let them for all I care. 

But for the same reason Michele Obama and Clinton can jump on Trump for any little thing he says, I'm

jumping on Biden. It's the principle of the matter.

 

Today school districts embrace the message of not accepting bullying in any form. No teasing, no insulting,

no name calling, no cyber attacks, no stalking, no hurting anyone in any way. They don't even allow dodge

ball anymore. Biden isn't in school and his comments will probably be swept under the carpet because he

was 'wishing' he was younger and in school. Very stupid Vice President. His comments are of most importance

because he is a public service representative. He is serving absolutely no one but his party when he attempts

to stand up against what is wrong with what is even more wrong. 

 

To want to take someone behind the school is bullying, it is threatening and it is out of line especially in our

society today which goes out of its way to classify every statement as racist, sexist or bullying. He is sending

the message that even the people in charge of anti-anything campaigns wish they could do what they are trying

to prevent. Doesn't that stamp a big, fat VOID on the movement? I expect an apology - since we are

constantly reminded of Trump and his 'racist' remarks: Keep Illegal Immigrants Out, Deport Illegal Immigrants,

Illegal Immigrants are Responsible for Crime, Housekeeper, Build a Wall and so on and so on. BUT that is not

the biggest reason I want an apology. 

It's this:

 

There are kids today contemplating suicide because of threats. There are kids that are no longer here because the

threats of being beaten-up were too much to bear. There are kids today that cut themselves because the pain is too

much to handle. There are kids today who do drugs, drink alcohol and do not respect their bodies due to low self

esteem brought on by the bullies that taunt them on a daily basis in school and on the internet. These kids do not

deserve this and they DO NOT deserve the empowerment the cowards that abuse them got with JOE BIDEN's desire

to take Trump behind the gym.

 

His comment is a huge double standard that had no business coming from the Vice President of the United States.

It is 2016, he is in a position of great visibility. In 2005, Trump was a play boy businessman..no connection whatsoever

to the government and its multimillion dollar campaigns on racism, sexism and bullying in schools. HUGE DIFFERENCE.

 

I EXPECT THAT APOLOGY TODAY AND WILL IN FACT BE MAKING SOME CALLS. THE DOUBLE STANDARD NEEDS TO STOP.

Excellent post dr65.

Biden, and he is a Vice-President and set example.  What a shame, he is down in the gutter with Hillary and Bill.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Helpmewin, you read your buddys posts today?  You think that is the sign of a person who CARES?????? 

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 22, 2016

Todd needs to step back in.  You bet he is a knowitall.  He constantly posts bs, has to be be a paid troll, and is paid by each bs post.

Helpmewin needs to go back and read it ALL before she calls the dimwit Carebear. 

She has a long time habit of getting crushes on troublemakers before Todd sends them to the land of no avatar. Happened with McGinnin who was basically ok and nutty Ronnie and I am sure there were others.. The thread topics were filled with hundreds of lovey dovey emoticons with no text between she and her crush and it was disruptive to the members trying to follow the thread. Ask Sully. Lol

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Yet with those things in his past he has managed to come back and be a success.  It's stated that 9 out of

10 businesses fail.  All airlines suffered greatly due to fuel cost.  Again context is missing in all the above.

I also noticed you mention GoTrump.com being closed, I guess you needed a little extra roughage for the

diet.  Trump Magazine, really,  In a age where everything has gone digital, WOW.  Nothing here strikes me

as damming.  You must live in a shoebox.  Don't worry, When Trump is elected I am sure you will continue to

receive your government checks and food stamps.   GM would have failed if not for the big bailout only to then

stab us in the back moving to Mexico.  Way to go Obama, NOT. 

RL

 

Read a little about your hero Hilda from those who know her best.  I could add 7 more if you think it takes 10

to convince a person but after 3 I was to puke.  As Paul Harvey use to say, "Goooood Day."

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2010921/former-security-guard-for-hillary-clinton-reveals-she-was-so-hated-by-staff-they-laughed-when-she-broke-her-elbow/

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-17/security-agent-tells-fbi-what-it-was-really-work-hillary-c

 

http://nypost.com/2016/10/19/hillary-clintons-security-detail-laughed-when-she-broke-her-elbow/

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 22, 2016

Excellent post dr65.

Biden, and he is a Vice-President and set example.  What a shame, he is down in the gutter with Hillary and Bill.

I would like to see the pecker wood take on Trump even now.  I never did agree with the "make all kids pu$$ies agenda"

currently in the school system.  Back in my day we use to slug it out.  If things could not be worked out at school we meet

later that evening to finish it.  We may not have respected each other but we did respect our parents and officials for the

most part.  Now Kids don't respect parents or for that matter anyone.  Trump, meet JB and kick the <snip> out of him until he

cries like a baby, and make him change his name to BJ, I think it's more fitting.

RL

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lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 22, 2016

She has a long time habit of getting crushes on troublemakers before Todd sends them to the land of no avatar. Happened with McGinnin who was basically ok and nutty Ronnie and I am sure there were others.. The thread topics were filled with hundreds of lovey dovey emoticons with no text between she and her crush and it was disruptive to the members trying to follow the thread. Ask Sully. Lol

Oh great that is all we need on this thread.  It's already hard enough to distinguish the truth without the likes of those who post all their inaccuracies.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

It's gotten so bad that we have battlefield lawyers that tell us when we can shoot.  War is hell, lets keep it that

way.  Anyone remember the star trek episode where they had simulated war with real casualties?  Report to the

death chamber, you were killed in the last strike. 

RL

bigbear29

Trump's speeches from day one should have been like today.  But it is totally to late!  His campaign manager was totally correct, but NO!  Trump would not listen to anyone.  Trump is not Presidential and would not get along with anyone in Washington.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 22, 2016

I would like to see the pecker wood take on Trump even now.  I never did agree with the "make all kids pu$$ies agenda"

currently in the school system.  Back in my day we use to slug it out.  If things could not be worked out at school we meet

later that evening to finish it.  We may not have respected each other but we did respect our parents and officials for the

most part.  Now Kids don't respect parents or for that matter anyone.  Trump, meet JB and kick the <snip> out of him until he

cries like a baby, and make him change his name to BJ, I think it's more fitting.

RL

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Must have been my day as well RL.  Your term is exact, the kids today cant get their little feelings hurt, one wins, they all have to win.  That is NOT life, and they are going to have a problem growing up and getting in the real world.

I am rather confused about Biden, for the most part he is clown and sometimes funny, disjointed, but now he has taken on Odumbos personna of attacking anyone that disagrees with him. 

Peckerwood, (aka Joe Biteme) how hysterical hahahahahahhaha cant you just picture that one?  All Trump would have to do is confront him and he would fall down crying like a baby lol.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Here are some quick stats I think will amaze most people.  The US civil war had more war casualties then

WWII. 

More people died when brother fought against brother than when we fought a world war.  The next one

if it happens will reach into the millions.  The Demo's are trying to divide the kingdom by moving away from

our constitution. 

"If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand." Jesus,   Mark 3:24
 

RL

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 22, 2016

Smokin' Joe Biden...wants to take Trump behind the gym over his comments about women in 2005.

He needs to apologize and retract his statement but sadly he probably won't be required to do so.

I don't care if 2 old farts want to duke it out let them for all I care. 

But for the same reason Michele Obama and Clinton can jump on Trump for any little thing he says, I'm

jumping on Biden. It's the principle of the matter.

 

Today school districts embrace the message of not accepting bullying in any form. No teasing, no insulting,

no name calling, no cyber attacks, no stalking, no hurting anyone in any way. They don't even allow dodge

ball anymore. Biden isn't in school and his comments will probably be swept under the carpet because he

was 'wishing' he was younger and in school. Very stupid Vice President. His comments are of most importance

because he is a public service representative. He is serving absolutely no one but his party when he attempts

to stand up against what is wrong with what is even more wrong. 

 

To want to take someone behind the school is bullying, it is threatening and it is out of line especially in our

society today which goes out of its way to classify every statement as racist, sexist or bullying. He is sending

the message that even the people in charge of anti-anything campaigns wish they could do what they are trying

to prevent. Doesn't that stamp a big, fat VOID on the movement? I expect an apology - since we are

constantly reminded of Trump and his 'racist' remarks: Keep Illegal Immigrants Out, Deport Illegal Immigrants,

Illegal Immigrants are Responsible for Crime, Housekeeper, Build a Wall and so on and so on. BUT that is not

the biggest reason I want an apology. 

It's this:

 

There are kids today contemplating suicide because of threats. There are kids that are no longer here because the

threats of being beaten-up were too much to bear. There are kids today that cut themselves because the pain is too

much to handle. There are kids today who do drugs, drink alcohol and do not respect their bodies due to low self

esteem brought on by the bullies that taunt them on a daily basis in school and on the internet. These kids do not

deserve this and they DO NOT deserve the empowerment the cowards that abuse them got with JOE BIDEN's desire

to take Trump behind the gym.

 

His comment is a huge double standard that had no business coming from the Vice President of the United States.

It is 2016, he is in a position of great visibility. In 2005, Trump was a play boy businessman..no connection whatsoever

to the government and its multimillion dollar campaigns on racism, sexism and bullying in schools. HUGE DIFFERENCE.

 

I EXPECT THAT APOLOGY TODAY AND WILL IN FACT BE MAKING SOME CALLS. THE DOUBLE STANDARD NEEDS TO STOP.

I agree with you but unfortunately there is no double standard when any democrat vomits hate speech. In their minds they are exempt and the only group permitted to perpetrate utter nonsense.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Oct 22, 2016

I agree with you but unfortunately there is no double standard when any democrat vomits hate speech. In their minds they are exempt and the only group permitted to perpetrate utter nonsense.

the only group permitted to perpetrate utter nonsense

Dead on.

RL

I Agree!

noise-gate

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Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 22, 2016

Here are some quick stats I think will amaze most people.  The US civil war had more war casualties then

WWII. 

More people died when brother fought against brother than when we fought a world war.  The next one

if it happens will reach into the millions.  The Demo's are trying to divide the kingdom by moving away from

our constitution. 

"If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand." Jesus,   Mark 3:24
 

RL

With the direction this nation is taking, the foundation for an upcoming civil war is more prevalent than WWIII. Our nation as a whole has never been more divided since the clown in the Oval Office came into power. There is so much tension and anxiety between both sides that it has taken a toll on previously solid friendships.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

When it comes to women's right and abortion, I can't figure out why any mother who is full term and within minutes of giving birth choosing to terminate her pregnancy at that point? If there had been medical issues, she would have been informed well in advance. I am nearing my 20th week and I am given a status report with each of my routine visits.

Baby killers see no harm in executing a defenseless baby but cry foul when a convicted inmate on death row faces his or her demise. These are the same individuals who think Sharia law is completely acceptable but ignore all the gays being slaughtered. Last I heard, Liberal dominated area like D.C , Hollywood and San Francisco have the highest ratio of gays yet they want to embrace those who practice Sharia Law.

This country is being flushed down the toilet in front of our very eyes.....sad.

bigbear29

I don't know too much about this but, this is mostly done that late in the pregnancy if there is extreme problem or the fetal is dead.  Is this correct?

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Oct 22, 2016

When it comes to women's right and abortion, I can't figure out why any mother who is full term and within minutes of giving birth choosing to terminate her pregnancy at that point? If there had been medical issues, she would have been informed well in advance. I am nearing my 20th week and I am given a status report with each of my routine visits.

Baby killers see no harm in executing a defenseless baby but cry foul when a convicted inmate on death row faces his or her demise. These are the same individuals who think Sharia law is completely acceptable but ignore all the gays being slaughtered. Last I heard, Liberal dominated area like D.C , Hollywood and San Francisco have the highest ratio of gays yet they want to embrace those who practice Sharia Law.

This country is being flushed down the toilet in front of our very eyes.....sad.

Ending a full term pregnancy through abortion is out-and-out murder imo and THAT Drenick is my problem as well. I cannot understand not only the mother but the doctor who performs such a horrific act.  They BOTH should be in prison it disgusts me no end.

I used to be pro-life when I was younger but over the years I have changed my stance. 

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Oct 22, 2016

When it comes to women's right and abortion, I can't figure out why any mother who is full term and within minutes of giving birth choosing to terminate her pregnancy at that point? If there had been medical issues, she would have been informed well in advance. I am nearing my 20th week and I am given a status report with each of my routine visits.

Baby killers see no harm in executing a defenseless baby but cry foul when a convicted inmate on death row faces his or her demise. These are the same individuals who think Sharia law is completely acceptable but ignore all the gays being slaughtered. Last I heard, Liberal dominated area like D.C , Hollywood and San Francisco have the highest ratio of gays yet they want to embrace those who practice Sharia Law.

This country is being flushed down the toilet in front of our very eyes.....sad.

There are times that your posts make perfect sense, other times, not so much D. I am by no means gay, l have a wife. But l do have gay friends. Your post about San Francisco having the highest ratio of gays means what exactly- where do you and folks like you with your homophobic leaning against gays want them to move to? Has it ever occurred to you that the reason they move to certain places and congregate there is because they want to be with others like themselves? Away from the " oh there they are, let's harass them " .... In case you have not noticed, gays are people too. They doctors, lawyers, Professors and republicans/ democrats as well. I once saw Pat Robertson on TV  say that 911 occurred because God was fed up with America because of gays or whatever.. It's thinking that like which is hateful, especially coming from one who professes to be Christian. Gays have been around for thousands of years , like all of humanity they too will be judged on how the creator views them. 

It is written, you cannot say you love God whom you cannot see yet hate your brother who you can see.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 22, 2016

There are times that your posts make perfect sense, other times, not so much D. I am by no means gay, l have a wife. But l do have gay friends. Your post about San Francisco having the highest ratio of gays means what exactly- where do you and folks like you with your homophobic leaning against gays want them to move to? Has it ever occurred to you that the reason they move to certain places and congregate there is because they want to be with others like themselves? Away from the " oh there they are, let's harass them " .... In case you have not noticed, gays are people too. They doctors, lawyers, Professors and republicans/ democrats as well. I once saw Pat Robertson on TV  say that 911 occurred because God was fed up with America because of gays or whatever.. It's thinking that like which is hateful, especially coming from one who professes to be Christian. Gays have been around for thousands of years , like all of humanity they too will be judged on how the creator views them. 

It is written, you cannot say you love God whom you cannot see yet hate your brother who you can see.

You're such a tool, did you even bother to comprehend what see said.

Let's see if we can explain this to you.

She does ot understand why so many gay people support Hillary, when hillary is pro sharia law.

Sharia law prohibits gay union, most are murdered asap.

There is not one mention of her being against gays, she quite simply stated a fact. You love to twist things around.

Maybe you should go to Georgia, Hillary's bus left a ton a crap in the streets, they need someone to clean it up.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 22, 2016

Trump's speeches from day one should have been like today.  But it is totally to late!  His campaign manager was totally correct, but NO!  Trump would not listen to anyone.  Trump is not Presidential and would not get along with anyone in Washington.

double b

Can you give us your definition of "Presidential."  I myself would define it as someone acting on the behalf or

the people.   Hilda acts on behalf or special interest, big donors, etc...  Anyway, just thought knowing your

definition might make it easier to understand the great divide.

RL

 

P.S.  Trump has been saying the same thing since he joined the race, that is, when he was not having to fight

off his accusers.  Trump is for the people, the pledge was just restating what he has been talking all along.  If

it's too late then it's not because he gave the address at this time it's that too many people have been watching

the trash networks believing every word they say.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trump rally in Virginia Beach, VA.  Live stream...

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Sully

Take a step back and take a deep breath.  I can always tell when your temp is running high.  I agree with you 100%

but hate to see you post mad,  Grammar and spelling suffer and it takes away from your point.  Love you girl so don't

take this the wrong way.

RL

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 22, 2016

Sully

Take a step back and take a deep breath.  I can always tell when your temp is running high.  I agree with you 100%

but hate to see you post mad,  Grammar and spelling suffer and it takes away from your point.  Love you girl so don't

take this the wrong way.

RL

Got ya .  Cheers

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 22, 2016

10 Donald Trump Business Failures:

  1.   Trump Airlines - $365 million failure!
  2.   Trump Vodka -  FAILURE!
  3.  Trump Mortgage  -  FAILURE!
  4.  Trump - The Game  -  FAILURE!
  5.  Trump - The China Connection  -  Trump owes 950 million dollars (Bank of China and Goldman Sachs)
  6.  Trump Casinos  -   Chapter 11 bankruptcy
  7.  Trump Steaks  -  Trump Steakhouse 51 health code violations, Closed down
  8.  Trump Magazine -  Closed down
  9.  GoTrump.com  -  Closed down
  10.  Trump University  -  In 2013, the New York Attorney General sued Trump and the “university” for $40 million for allegedly defrauding students.

Quoting the Daily News again are we?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 22, 2016

You're such a tool, did you even bother to comprehend what see said.

Let's see if we can explain this to you.

She does ot understand why so many gay people support Hillary, when hillary is pro sharia law.

Sharia law prohibits gay union, most are murdered asap.

There is not one mention of her being against gays, she quite simply stated a fact. You love to twist things around.

Maybe you should go to Georgia, Hillary's bus left a ton a crap in the streets, they need someone to clean it up.

Tool my A* - l put that out as a broadside because the topic came up about Sharia law & gays. Listen up Sully.

Go to Snopes.com. Those folks do the snooping for us.

There is Not a Single recording, comment of Hillart EVER saying what you and your ilk put out Claiming that she said that . It's a fabrication and Tools, yes tools like yourself fall for it. It's a claim nothing more than the claim hat she has people killed going back to their Arkansas days. Want to prove me wrong : Post the link of her saying what you " believe she said." 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 22, 2016

Tool my A* - l put that out as a broadside because the topic came up about Sharia law & gays. Listen up Sully.

Go to Snopes.com. Those folks do the snooping for us.

There is Not a Single recording, comment of Hillart EVER saying what you and your ilk put out Claiming that she said that . It's a fabrication and Tools, yes tools like yourself fall for it. It's a claim nothing more than the claim hat she has people killed going back to their Arkansas days. Want to prove me wrong : Post the link of her saying what you " believe she said." 

Noise... Did you watch the Trump speech he made  from Gettysburg, PA?  If not, then shut the hell up.  That was a great speech and no one in their right mind would vote for anyone other than Trump.  Its on youtube.

bigbear29

Trump is running scare!  That was trumps help me speech, full of whining and begging.  Trump is done.

 

Trump people here are so angry, I wonder why?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 22, 2016

Trump is running scare!  That was trumps help me speech, full of whining and begging.  Trump is done.

 

Trump people here are so angry, I wonder why?

How's that Bernie bumper sticker doing on your yugo?  A little yellow and faded?  Kind of like your bank account?  LOL!  Do I sound angry?  Ha!  You're the one who calls other posters morons and idiots... Who's the angry one here?  Hint... Its you.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

double b

Read this story and see who's running scared.  Hitler pulled something similar.

http://www.eutimes.net/2016/10/hillary-clintons-sudden-move-of-1-8-billion-to-qatar-central-bank-stuns-financial-world/

RL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 22, 2016

Noise... Did you watch the Trump speech he made  from Gettysburg, PA?  If not, then shut the hell up.  That was a great speech and no one in their right mind would vote for anyone other than Trump.  Its on youtube.

Wis- l have seen Trump on the stage with Jeb & the other candidates and when he got the nomination.Looked at his rallies as well and frankly there is nothing new to look at. Nothing has changed. The same applies to Hillary as well, it's just a rehashing of the same thing. There is absolutely nothing to learn from either one of them at this stage in the game. I took to the Internet this morning and saw a picture of three woman at a Trump rally  probably in their 60's and upwards, the one in the middle had tears in her eyes and lm asking myself " what the.."  Took me back to the early days of Obama in 08 on the campaign trail and people were like " Oo, aaa" it's just words- nothing really happens when they get into office. They change- period. Both parties do the same BS, so why would you encourage me to view BS. Why oh why? The LA Times has a n intriguing piece on both candidates, one from the past, the other looking to the future. I read things with an open mind first before coming to a decision as to whether  l believe it or not, but the article said the Trump talks about events decades old, l am not talking since the 80, no his taking stuff from the 40,50's and painting a picture of those times and bringing them into the present. Scary stuff scares scary people. Look we never going to go back to the days when you accidentally could leave your front door unlocked, or your windows ajar- Trump is saying in not too many se times can be had again..ONLY if you elect me." I give him a B+ for effort, it's Hail Mary time.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 22, 2016

Wis- l have seen Trump on the stage with Jeb & the other candidates and when he got the nomination.Looked at his rallies as well and frankly there is nothing new to look at. Nothing has changed. The same applies to Hillary as well, it's just a rehashing of the same thing. There is absolutely nothing to learn from either one of them at this stage in the game. I took to the Internet this morning and saw a picture of three woman at a Trump rally  probably in their 60's and upwards, the one in the middle had tears in her eyes and lm asking myself " what the.."  Took me back to the early days of Obama in 08 on the campaign trail and people were like " Oo, aaa" it's just words- nothing really happens when they get into office. They change- period. Both parties do the same BS, so why would you encourage me to view BS. Why oh why? The LA Times has a n intriguing piece on both candidates, one from the past, the other looking to the future. I read things with an open mind first before coming to a decision as to whether  l believe it or not, but the article said the Trump talks about events decades old, l am not talking since the 80, no his taking stuff from the 40,50's and painting a picture of those times and bringing them into the present. Scary stuff scares scary people. Look we never going to go back to the days when you accidentally could leave your front door unlocked, or your windows ajar- Trump is saying in not too many se times can be had again..ONLY if you elect me." I give him a B+ for effort, it's Hail Mary time.

Both parties do the same?  Trumps not one of them.  Where have you been?  I give up.  Smoke a bowl and pretend everything is OK.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 22, 2016

Both parties do the same?  Trumps not one of them.  Where have you been?  I give up.  Smoke a bowl and pretend everything is OK.

"His running as a Republican. He may say his going to have a Trump agenda but his not running as an independent.. Like you say, where have l been? I have been here paying attention.Have you? I know you and others are all giddy with excitement about a Trump administration, but believe you me, he will have to comply with the rules and regs set forth. He may fight with Ryan or the Dems but if he were to become President, he will have to get along with Congress and the Senate- America is not run by a Dictator. Perhaps that is what some Trump flower followers  want, ain't gonna happen. No Stalin or Chavez type leaders welcomed here.

It's just another brick in the wall.. Now who sang that?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 22, 2016

"His running as a Republican. He may say his going to have a Trump agenda but his not running as an independent.. Like you say, where have l been? I have been here paying attention.Have you? I know you and others are all giddy with excitement about a Trump administration, but believe you me, he will have to comply with the rules and regs set forth. He may fight with Ryan or the Dems but if he were to become President, he will have to get along with Congress and the Senate- America is not run by a Dictator. Perhaps that is what some Trump flower followers  want, ain't gonna happen. No Stalin or Chavez type leaders welcomed here.

It's just another brick in the wall.. Now who sang that?

Yea the President has to get along with Congress... Name me ONE republican who voted for the """"affordable care act"""?   Come on noise, I'm waiting.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 22, 2016

Tool my A* - l put that out as a broadside because the topic came up about Sharia law & gays. Listen up Sully.

Go to Snopes.com. Those folks do the snooping for us.

There is Not a Single recording, comment of Hillart EVER saying what you and your ilk put out Claiming that she said that . It's a fabrication and Tools, yes tools like yourself fall for it. It's a claim nothing more than the claim hat she has people killed going back to their Arkansas days. Want to prove me wrong : Post the link of her saying what you " believe she said." 

Video of Hillary lying before Congress about Benghazi.

https://youtu.be/bOFENuFHwTk

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 22, 2016

Yea the President has to get along with Congress... Name me ONE republican who voted for the """"affordable care act"""?   Come on noise, I'm waiting.

No republican voted for it and you know why? Because l personally believe and this holds true that you cannot think independently when you a repub in either the Congress or Senate. They want to speak as one,  that was until the Tea Party emerged. One act of bravery was them breaking with the horde to vote against impeaching Bill Clinton. That took stones.

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noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 22, 2016

Video of Hillary lying before Congress about Benghazi.

https://youtu.be/bOFENuFHwTk

Grrrr- l was talking about a video of Hillary on " Sharia Law".. Please do pay attention.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

A local middle school held a mock election and Trump won 81% of the vote.  These results were based on a 4-way race.

RL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 22, 2016

A local middle school held a mock election and Trump won 81% of the vote.  These results were based on a 4-way race.

RL

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LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 22, 2016

No republican voted for it and you know why? Because l personally believe and this holds true that you cannot think independently when you a repub in either the Congress or Senate. They want to speak as one,  that was until the Tea Party emerged. One act of bravery was them breaking with the horde to vote against impeaching Bill Clinton. That took stones.

Image result for sheep following each other

What?  You cannot think independently?  What does that say about the democrats.  No republicans voted for it because the people of this country didn't want it!  You idiot!  Did you see the election after that vote????  The dems lost bigtime.  What does that tell you????

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 22, 2016

What?  You cannot think independently?  What does that say about the democrats.  No republicans voted for it because the people of this country didn't want it!  You idiot!  Did you see the election after that vote????  The dems lost bigtime.  What does that tell you????

First off: l am not an idiot, second, you seem to be getting all worked up over a discussion- a exchange of opinions. Third, where is the republicans Plan for affordable health care? l  recently had a discussion with another member of the forum on this very same topic- if you going to dismantle or do away with Obama care- what do you replace it with, and why hasn't it been done all these years? The Republicans have been in charge of both houses since....you know when. You right, the Dems lost bigtime- but over what? Either the Republicans are masters at playing the game of hoodwinking the voters, or the people that voted for them are idiots.They (the voters) should have asked their politicians " Well yeah- we got the House/Senate back, so what are you going to do since we brought this about?" As l said " Sheep."

If this is such a touchy subjects with Americans and Republicans are prepared to go to battle over- why have they not led the charge in " Getting it right?" Rolling out a TRUE affordable healthcare program instead of finding fault with the existing one because it was implemented by a Democrat? So lets stay on topic and maybe you could provide me with a timeline as to when the Republicans are going to hit the ground running on putting together their very own healthcare plan or are they just a party of waiting for the Dems to do something so it will keep them " busy" by criticising it? l am all for either party putting together a Healthcare program that IS affordable...l am keeping my fingers crossed that we will see the republican version in the coming months.... not years.

Funny thing is, in speaking of Republicans- they run for election or re election with the PROMISE to " do the peoples work".. yet when they get to Washington, all we hear and read of is " we need a hearing over this, we need another hearing over that " all related to Hillary. Know what- get off your fannies and construct an Affordable Healthcare Plan, one that your district would be proud of knowing that they sent these Politicians to Washington to Do something for the People!!!

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 22, 2016

There are times that your posts make perfect sense, other times, not so much D. I am by no means gay, l have a wife. But l do have gay friends. Your post about San Francisco having the highest ratio of gays means what exactly- where do you and folks like you with your homophobic leaning against gays want them to move to? Has it ever occurred to you that the reason they move to certain places and congregate there is because they want to be with others like themselves? Away from the " oh there they are, let's harass them " .... In case you have not noticed, gays are people too. They doctors, lawyers, Professors and republicans/ democrats as well. I once saw Pat Robertson on TV  say that 911 occurred because God was fed up with America because of gays or whatever.. It's thinking that like which is hateful, especially coming from one who professes to be Christian. Gays have been around for thousands of years , like all of humanity they too will be judged on how the creator views them. 

It is written, you cannot say you love God whom you cannot see yet hate your brother who you can see.

Not sure what part of my post you didn't understand or if you even bothered to read it in it's entirety but I did not condemn gays, I was simply making a reference that the group as a whole tend to be democrat liberals and highly supportive of Muslims here and abroad. The facts I was stating is over 90% of European and middle eastern Muslims support Sharia law and regard it as the law of the land.

Here in the United States, the majority of Muslims also support Sharia Law and over 25% of them would go to war against Americans in the name of Jihad. Hillary and her supporters have made it abundantly clear that they support Islam because it is a religion of peace. I have a few friends who are Muslims and I would trust them with my life but overall I am deeply concerned about the majority of them...especially those from Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.

What I was trying to emphasize is that far left liberals and Hillary Clinton see no harm whatsoever in flooding our country with middle eastern Muslims and welcome them with open arms. How would you feel if they decided to throw your friends and neighbors off of rooftops or blowtorch them to death? They (radical Islam) would have a field day in San Francisco, D.C., Manhattan, Hollywood and any predominantly gay neighborhood.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 22, 2016

10 Donald Trump Business Failures:

  1.   Trump Airlines - $365 million failure!
  2.   Trump Vodka -  FAILURE!
  3.  Trump Mortgage  -  FAILURE!
  4.  Trump - The Game  -  FAILURE!
  5.  Trump - The China Connection  -  Trump owes 950 million dollars (Bank of China and Goldman Sachs)
  6.  Trump Casinos  -   Chapter 11 bankruptcy
  7.  Trump Steaks  -  Trump Steakhouse 51 health code violations, Closed down
  8.  Trump Magazine -  Closed down
  9.  GoTrump.com  -  Closed down
  10.  Trump University  -  In 2013, the New York Attorney General sued Trump and the “university” for $40 million for allegedly defrauding students.

Bigbear29,

I'm sure you didn't mean to but with Trump's list of failures you verified what I said about Hillary supporters being in an attack Trump mode and not mentioning Hillary's accomplishments.

Maybe you consider the State Dept. and other agencies having to send in damage control teams to places she visited an accomplishment.

If it's not too jingoistic for you look up Abraham Lincoln's list of failures.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Hillary is disqualified from running or even holding any office within the US government!

 

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Former FBI Asst. Director endorses Trump, calls Hillary a pathological liar...

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Oct 22, 2016

Not sure what part of my post you didn't understand or if you even bothered to read it in it's entirety but I did not condemn gays, I was simply making a reference that the group as a whole tend to be democrat liberals and highly supportive of Muslims here and abroad. The facts I was stating is over 90% of European and middle eastern Muslims support Sharia law and regard it as the law of the land.

Here in the United States, the majority of Muslims also support Sharia Law and over 25% of them would go to war against Americans in the name of Jihad. Hillary and her supporters have made it abundantly clear that they support Islam because it is a religion of peace. I have a few friends who are Muslims and I would trust them with my life but overall I am deeply concerned about the majority of them...especially those from Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.

What I was trying to emphasize is that far left liberals and Hillary Clinton see no harm whatsoever in flooding our country with middle eastern Muslims and welcome them with open arms. How would you feel if they decided to throw your friends and neighbors off of rooftops or blowtorch them to death? They (radical Islam) would have a field day in San Francisco, D.C., Manhattan, Hollywood and any predominantly gay neighborhood.

What I was trying to emphasize is that far left liberals and Hillary Clinton see no harm whatsoever in flooding our country with middle eastern Muslims and welcome them with open arms.

HERE’S THE PROCESS REFUGEES HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO ENTER THE U.S. NEWSWEEK Nov 2015.

The first step for most refugees who come to the U.S. is to register with the U.N. refugee agency (UNHCR), which makes the initial referral to the resettlement country. This doesn’t mean that the U.N. decides who comes into the U.S. Instead, the UNHCR is in a position to identify vulnerable people, including those with injuries, medical conditions or trauma, or female-headed households. These are the types of people the U.S. seeks to resettle.

The U.N. then performs an initial assessment to make sure applicants are bona fide refugees. The U.N. also collects biometric data, including iris scans for Syrians and other Middle Eastern refugee populations, and biographical information. The UNHCR will also consider criteria like medical needs and whether there are family or friends in a certain country to help decide where refugees should go. Since the Syrian civil war broke out in 2011, 23,000 Syrian refugees have been referred to the U.S. by the UNHCR, and 2,281 have been admitted.

You can read the rest on that Newsweek article online. Welcoming refugees from Syria & other countries with " Open Arms" is not based on reality Dre-and l think Hillary knows that.But politicians can and will say anything to garner votes, including her.

Peace.

 

 

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 22, 2016

Former FBI Asst. Director endorses Trump, calls Hillary a pathological liar...

What did you expect him to say- Trump is his friend, his known Donald for 40 years? Why isn't Director Comey, a Republican  not going after the Clinton foundation if this guy says it is corrupt? Your answers would be? 

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 21, 2016

I going to pick up more ammo tomorrow for the upcoming reloveution.  I guess the dems will make up some kind

of excuse for Hilda and George as they won't believe what they hear and see.  I don't think you will be seeing

that video on any network. 

RL

"I going to pick up more ammo tomorrow for the upcoming reloveution."

"You'll shoot your eye out" and what is a "reloveution"?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 21, 2016

I'm pretty sure he doesn't know who his daddy is.

"When I saw this I immediately thought of you, bigbore."

Childish name calling, Mike?

I thought you were more intelligent than that.

noise-gate

Image result for you'll shoot your eye out

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 22, 2016

What did you expect him to say- Trump is his friend, his known Donald for 40 years? Why isn't Director Comey, a Republican  not going after the Clinton foundation if this guy says it is corrupt? Your answers would be? 

They made a deal behind closed doors, "quid pro quo" to be given cushy overseas jobs....read up....

https://www.google.com/search?q=Comey+quid+pro&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&gws_rd=ssl

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 22, 2016

She has a long time habit of getting crushes on troublemakers before Todd sends them to the land of no avatar. Happened with McGinnin who was basically ok and nutty Ronnie and I am sure there were others.. The thread topics were filled with hundreds of lovey dovey emoticons with no text between she and her crush and it was disruptive to the members trying to follow the thread. Ask Sully. Lol

"She has a long time habit of getting crushes on troublemakers before Todd sends them to the land of no avatar."

Lots of people are wondering why you haven't been banned for adding absolutely NOTHING but lame childish name calling and insults to LP.

Can anybody explain how this posts is related to this topic or anything lottery?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 22, 2016

Tool my A* - l put that out as a broadside because the topic came up about Sharia law & gays. Listen up Sully.

Go to Snopes.com. Those folks do the snooping for us.

There is Not a Single recording, comment of Hillart EVER saying what you and your ilk put out Claiming that she said that . It's a fabrication and Tools, yes tools like yourself fall for it. It's a claim nothing more than the claim hat she has people killed going back to their Arkansas days. Want to prove me wrong : Post the link of her saying what you " believe she said." 

"It's a fabrication and Tools, yes tools like yourself fall for it."

And exactly why Trump "loves the poorly educated".

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 22, 2016

A local middle school held a mock election and Trump won 81% of the vote.  These results were based on a 4-way race.

RL

Just can't take someone serious when they start talking about mock election by 12-year-olds.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 22, 2016

"When I saw this I immediately thought of you, bigbore."

Childish name calling, Mike?

I thought you were more intelligent than that.

No, just angry at his own childish behavior.  I thought you were too, but that was before you resorted to the dishonest straw man tactics.  You even used them in the post when you declared you weren't using them.

More intelligent than what?   I'm certainly more intelligent than any Hillary supporter, esp. any in this thread...although that's not saying much and is a pretty low bar to leap.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Kids are little parents, Mike Pence sent us this a while ago. speaks volumes.  Shame it does not show the people who

could not fit into the event.  Go Ohio.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Another video shows around 35K attending VA rally.

Also just found this. It seems that Hilda is ready to come clean on UFO's to try and pick up a few votes.

I guess she knows more than Bill because he said they would not tell him anything.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-ufos_us_58050d0ae4b06e04759637ea

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 22, 2016

Kids are little parents, Mike Pence sent us this a while ago. speaks volumes.  Shame it does not show the people who

could not fit into the event.  Go Ohio.

That and dozens and dozens of photos just like it set fire to the hearts of Trump supporters. They know that the CNN

lies and deception are a desperate attempt to dishonor the only honorable person fit to run this country. He is honorable

because instead of serving a corrupt government, he will be serving a nation.

GO TRUMP!! US Flag

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Another video link about UFO's.  She can save her breath because many already know there are UFO's buzzing

around.  What we don't know is where they come from or who they belong to.  Another poor attempt to get

elected.  When she looses it, she really looses it.  I personally know where most of them are from and it's not

another planet.  I have seen one up close, could have hit it with a rock throwing underhand and it was not just

me that was there.  Notice this is on CNN.  I guess they are running out of material trying to mask the big turnouts

for Trump today. 

RL

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/07/politics/john-podesta-hillary-clinton-ufo/

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

You can see from the video that he is having trouble with women voters, Not.

I see people of both sexes and of all ages there to support him.  It's time to tell the big news networks to hit the

road because their lies have been bought front and center. 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Hilda supporters. Might not be that far off, remember Bill says she talks to the dead.  Maybe that's why we have

so many dead people voting in this election.

RL

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 22, 2016

Hilda supporters. Might not be that far off, remember Bill says she talks to the dead.  Maybe that's why we have

so many dead people voting in this election.

RL

LOL!

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 22, 2016

If you think bigbore is smart, then you're as dumb as he is.  I already know you're clueless and naive, but I had given you credit for intelligence....looks like I was wrong. Sorry 'bout that. 

You're still sore because I schooled you back in this thread around page 25, think it was.  You know, where I proved you were lying and full of it, destroyed your BS point-by-point.  You couldn't even come up with a rebuttal other than "nuh uh".   I see you're at it again with the insipid "center-right" argument.  SMH

I haven't been following the thread closely and all i've seen from him (like all Clinton supporters) has been " TAX RETURNS!" "AH SCARY ORANGE DICTATOR" "TAX RETURNS!". On both sides, the only argument for the two main candidates has been that the other is totally evil. 

You completely forgot to mention that i replied a half dozen times showing how you're wrong but whatever. Moving on.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

They don't have to go through all that. All they have to do is go to Mexico and walk across the border like they did in Germany and France. Once they figure that out, then we'll really be in trouble. It will be an invasion.

https://youtu.be/kOQOgc4OCXQ

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 22, 2016

Liberals like Obama and Hillary are center-right moderate conservatives...

You do know that's contradictory, don't you?   Are they liberals or are they center-right moderate conservatives? 

I worked up a rebuttal to you the last time on that very point and saved it to a Notepad document but after the last spanking I gave you, I thought it would be overkill.  I'll have to find it, but there's so MANY files with the title "DERP_BS", I'll have to dig for it.

As you correctly said early on, Liberal originally meant libertarian (and still does in Europe). 

Here in the USA, the term has historically been used to mean leftists or left-leaning.

But when you compare the people we call "liberals" like Obama and Hillary, you'll find that they are pretty right wing when compared to the rest of the world. Look at Britain for an example, here's their Conservative Party Platform https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/manifesto2015/ConservativeManifesto2015.pdf Do you really not think that looks more like the "Liberal" Democratic platform than the Republican platform? The big tent party has gotten too big, it's time to push the "Liberals" back where they belong in the Rep tent.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 22, 2016

Do not assume you know the outcome of this election unless you have an in with ole Hillary and Soros.

Also, I have made it to my age and all these years without your help.  I do not need to schooled by the likes of you. 

Peddle your condescending crapp to someone who needs it like poopbear.

My comment never mentioned anything about who i believe(d) will win. If there was ever an election where everything gets scrambled and historical trends go out the window it would be this one. But regardless of what happens, trust in the fairness and honesty of government must be maintained.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 22, 2016

I haven't been following the thread closely and all i've seen from him (like all Clinton supporters) has been " TAX RETURNS!" "AH SCARY ORANGE DICTATOR" "TAX RETURNS!". On both sides, the only argument for the two main candidates has been that the other is totally evil. 

You completely forgot to mention that i replied a half dozen times showing how you're wrong but whatever. Moving on.

No, I didn't forget to mention it because you never showed me I was wrong, not once.   The only rebuttal you put forth (not only to me, but to others) about theocracy was using a single incident of a small percentage of N. Carolina legislators being religious nutjobs.

You might as well move on, because you've never had anything of substance to say, only lies & statistics pulled out of your butt.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 22, 2016

They made a deal behind closed doors, "quid pro quo" to be given cushy overseas jobs....read up....

https://www.google.com/search?q=Comey+quid+pro&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&gws_rd=ssl

l allowed myself to view the entire video you posted as " Proof" of a quid pro quo but much to my surprise the word " alleged"  was thrown about throughout. You are familiar with what that word means don't you? If not- let the dictionary refresh your mind..

Simple Definition of alleged

  • : accused of having done something wrong or illegal but not yet proven guilty

  • : said to have happened but not yet proven

It's been said Trump loves the poorly educated : Jam- prove Trump wrong.

 

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 22, 2016

As you correctly said early on, Liberal originally meant libertarian (and still does in Europe). 

Here in the USA, the term has historically been used to mean leftists or left-leaning.

But when you compare the people we call "liberals" like Obama and Hillary, you'll find that they are pretty right wing when compared to the rest of the world. Look at Britain for an example, here's their Conservative Party Platform https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/manifesto2015/ConservativeManifesto2015.pdf Do you really not think that looks more like the "Liberal" Democratic platform than the Republican platform? The big tent party has gotten too big, it's time to push the "Liberals" back where they belong in the Rep tent.

The only place the distinction matters in American politics is...wait for it...in AMERICA!  The Brits can define their parties how they like.

There's no way Obama or Hillary can be considered Conservative.  You can hang the "right wing" label on them if you want, but I won't allow you to use "Conservative" - in the American sense of the word - on them.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 22, 2016

l allowed myself to view the entire video you posted as " Proof" of a quid pro quo but much to my surprise the word " alleged"  was thrown about throughout. You are familiar with what that word means don't you? If not- let the dictionary refresh your mind..

Simple Definition of alleged

  • : accused of having done something wrong or illegal but not yet proven guilty

  • : said to have happened but not yet proven

It's been said Trump loves the poorly educated : Jam- prove Trump wrong.

 

I didn't post a video, I posted a link with the search terms, which had over 96,000 results. If you watched a video, you chose it from the results.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 22, 2016

What I saw was he managed to tell five different people how uninformed he thinks we are.   I really know nothing him about but after that entrance, post after post insulting us, I will add him to the ignore list. Not going to waste my time reading his garbage, what we have here is another knowitall.   Dupe Alert

I guess you have had the "pleasure" of conversing? 

The difference between an adult and a child is that an adult is open to hearing opposing views. Hi, I've been here for several months, not exactly new anymore.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 22, 2016

No, I didn't forget to mention it because you never showed me I was wrong, not once.   The only rebuttal you put forth (not only to me, but to others) about theocracy was using a single incident of a small percentage of N. Carolina legislators being religious nutjobs.

You might as well move on, because you've never had anything of substance to say, only lies & statistics pulled out of your butt.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/02/25/57-republicans-dismantle-constitution-christianity-national-religion.html

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danthropology/2015/10/44-percent-of-republicans-favor-a-christian-theocracy-according-to-a-new-survey/

https://mic.com/articles/121496/one-map-shows-where-you-can-still-be-fired-for-being-gay-in-2015#.xbq1MI8z9

I don't think a theocracy will form anytime soon, but it isn't exactly impossible if due diligence isn't kept. You call yourself a libertarian, you should be concerned about the dark turn that's going on. That is why i celebrated when Trump won the nom, he was one of the few that didn't try to bring god into everything.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 22, 2016

The only place the distinction matters in American politics is...wait for it...in AMERICA!  The Brits can define their parties how they like.

There's no way Obama or Hillary can be considered Conservative.  You can hang the "right wing" label on them if you want, but I won't allow you to use "Conservative" - in the American sense of the word - on them.

Stop grouping me in with them. From health care to immigration to foreign wars, i share little with these self-identified "liberals"

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 22, 2016

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/02/25/57-republicans-dismantle-constitution-christianity-national-religion.html

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danthropology/2015/10/44-percent-of-republicans-favor-a-christian-theocracy-according-to-a-new-survey/

https://mic.com/articles/121496/one-map-shows-where-you-can-still-be-fired-for-being-gay-in-2015#.xbq1MI8z9

I don't think a theocracy will form anytime soon, but it isn't exactly impossible if due diligence isn't kept. You call yourself a libertarian, you should be concerned about the dark turn that's going on. That is why i celebrated when Trump won the nom, he was one of the few that didn't try to bring god into everything.

I'm not concerned, because every example you use is an outlier and not how most Americans think.   Far more alarming to me are the statists who think govt. is the answer to everything. 

I not only call myself a libertarian, I am one.  Libertarians want to take over the world...and then leave you alone.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 22, 2016

Stop grouping me in with them. From health care to immigration to foreign wars, i share little with these self-identified "liberals"

Not sure where you think I grouped you in with them, but in the past you've had a problem with comprehension, so....

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 22, 2016

I didn't post a video, I posted a link with the search terms, which had over 96,000 results. If you watched a video, you chose it from the results.

I responded to your post, not someone else's . Don't you check your posts before being accused of  leading people astray and attempting to run for cover? A famous republican once said " Just don't do it"...

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 22, 2016

Tool my A* - l put that out as a broadside because the topic came up about Sharia law & gays. Listen up Sully.

Go to Snopes.com. Those folks do the snooping for us.

There is Not a Single recording, comment of Hillart EVER saying what you and your ilk put out Claiming that she said that . It's a fabrication and Tools, yes tools like yourself fall for it. It's a claim nothing more than the claim hat she has people killed going back to their Arkansas days. Want to prove me wrong : Post the link of her saying what you " believe she said." 

She took money from countries that practice sharia law, it is well documented.

When you take money from someone, you are silently supporting them.

She doesn't care that these people will poor gasoline on their own daughters, or throw them in a hole and throw rocks at them until they are dead, because their ankle popped out of the very stylish berkas.

And because you support Hillary, you support horrific abuse of humans.

Lildarryl

all Donald Trump fans.  Get a life.    Hes gonna lose and all youre gonna do is complain. And keep going on with your pathetic lives... hillary is gonna win.   Just be thankful that the Black guy will be out the White house....     

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Lildarryl on Oct 23, 2016

all Donald Trump fans.  Get a life.    Hes gonna lose and all youre gonna do is complain. And keep going on with your pathetic lives... hillary is gonna win.   Just be thankful that the Black guy will be out the White house....     

Seems race only matters to you huh?  Extremely glad the IDIOT will soon be out of the white house.  There's a reason he hid his college transcripts.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 22, 2016

Kids are little parents, Mike Pence sent us this a while ago. speaks volumes.  Shame it does not show the people who

could not fit into the event.  Go Ohio.

Now that's a massive crowd.  Here's a short video panning the crowd.  This is more than a political rally, its a movement of people sick and tired of getting screwed over by the politicians in DC. 

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Lildarryl on Oct 23, 2016

all Donald Trump fans.  Get a life.    Hes gonna lose and all youre gonna do is complain. And keep going on with your pathetic lives... hillary is gonna win.   Just be thankful that the Black guy will be out the White house....     

Keep drinking the Kool-aide.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 22, 2016

Hillary is disqualified from running or even holding any office within the US government!

 

HILLARY FOR PRISON.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Since none of the Hillary supporters here have yet to mention any of her accomplishments maybe this is one;

Clinton Foundation Employed a Now-Imprisoned Senior Muslim Brotherhood Official
https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/10/20/rewind-clinton-foundation-subsidized-now-imprisoned-senior-muslim-brotherhood-official/

dr65's avatardr65

Everything that Crooked Hillary has to say about Trump pretty much involves what he has done a long time ago.

Chinese steel? wow..1980's

Immigrant labor? wow..same thing

Income tax?..so the guy takes credits/deductions...anyone would and does..1995? lol..

Sexual assault claims...geez, now they're pulling them out of the sewers they hide in to say a hug now is sexual

assault? This from a porn star and producer who didn't mind making money on being sexual assaulted and filming

it. You reap what you sow...she earned her reputation, that's on her. Not credible in my opinion. Not in lots of

others either, they just don't care and neither do I. 

Whatever else the media and Hillary and her campaign bring up, it's old news..who cares? The assault

victims LOL....where were they years and years ago?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 23, 2016

Everything that Crooked Hillary has to say about Trump pretty much involves what he has done a long time ago.

Chinese steel? wow..1980's

Immigrant labor? wow..same thing

Income tax?..so the guy takes credits/deductions...anyone would and does..1995? lol..

Sexual assault claims...geez, now they're pulling them out of the sewers they hide in to say a hug now is sexual

assault? This from a porn star and producer who didn't mind making money on being sexual assaulted and filming

it. You reap what you sow...she earned her reputation, that's on her. Not credible in my opinion. Not in lots of

others either, they just don't care and neither do I. 

Whatever else the media and Hillary and her campaign bring up, it's old news..who cares? The assault

victims LOL....where were they years and years ago?

Where were they years and years ago?

That's the one question I keep asking myself every time a new "victim" comes out of the woodwork.

Are these "victims" being paid $$$ to "come forward"?

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 23, 2016

Where were they years and years ago?

That's the one question I keep asking myself every time a new "victim" comes out of the woodwork.

Are these "victims" being paid $$$ to "come forward"?

A lot of them are being represented by Gloria Allred, who by the way, just happens to be a Hillary supporter since at least 8 -10 years ago.  Go figure... LOL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 23, 2016

She took money from countries that practice sharia law, it is well documented.

When you take money from someone, you are silently supporting them.

She doesn't care that these people will poor gasoline on their own daughters, or throw them in a hole and throw rocks at them until they are dead, because their ankle popped out of the very stylish berkas.

And because you support Hillary, you support horrific abuse of humans.

Good day to you Sully. Well let's get on with it shall we. First off, as God is my witness- l am a supporter of neither Trump or Hillary. That as you can tell is a serious claim to make which l do not say likely. I had to go online to brush up on my knowledge of the Clinton foundation etc. l learned that neither Bill or Hillary draw a salary from the foundation according to their tax documents. I also noted in this article from NPR that even though Hillary met with hundreds of folk, mixed in with that bunch were some donors who contributed to the foundation, but these were " cherry picked" and pointed out in the report as an appearance of  underhanded dealings. Trump contributed to the foundation & Romney had good things to say about it when Bill was at the head of the foundation. What l find strange is the fact that our very own govt has dealing with nations that practice Sharia law.. Why is that? Why do we not cut off ties  with them based on that alone?

Peace.

destinycreation

Question:

Is Larry Nichols, the confessed Hitman for the Clintons, still alive ???

If so, why hasn't he been arrested and jailed yet ??

Who is investigating these allegations that the Clintons have maintained a Hit Squad for so many years, other than the Media  ??

Why hasn't Donald Trump mentioned any of this Clinton Hit Squad Scandal yet ??

 

I am starting to wonder, who really is the lesser of these 2 Evils ??

 

I am still voting for Jill Stein !!!  Yes Nod

 

If the Election ends up in the hands of Congress to decide, I wonder if Congress would seriously consider  electing Evan McMullin for President [if he is in the Top 3] ???  It might be worth disenfranchising many American Voters, for the greater good of the nation as a whole, to choose McMullin over Trump or Clinton.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

New from wikileaks.

Julian Assange Gets Sweet Revenge After Hillary Cuts His Internet


With just a little over 2 weeks before the presidential election, Hillary Clinton is pulling out all the stops to keep Julian Assange’s mouth shut. With no success at actually  killing him, her minions did the next best thing by  cutting off his internet  at the embassy several days ago. Unfortunately for Hillary, a <snip>ing list has just been released, highlighting the things she’s done against the very country she seeks to lead.

The last couple of weeks of Wikileaks’ data dumps have placed a very disturbing spotlight on the inner workings of Hillary and her crooked campaign. From voter fraud to accepting bribes from terrorists, the list of infractions against our country is just insane at this point. While it’s difficult to weed through the thousands of emails to find the important stuff, the following is a list of the 13 most <snip>ing emails that show straight-up acts of treason on Hillary Clinton’s part, as nicely constructed by  Conservative Byte:

Hillary’s 13 Acts of Treason against the United States

  1. Qatar gives Bill Clinton $1,000,000 for his birthday:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8396#efmAEOAGW
  2. Saudi Sheikh won’t donate money to Clinton Foundation unless he receives a phone call from Bill Clinton. Staff responds: Bill won’t do it “unless Sheikh Mo has sent us a $6 million check”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6775#efmACoADwAIqAJzAOXASM
  3. Iran Deal (which Hillary negotiated and defends) “condemns the next generation to cleaning up a nuclear war in the Persian Gulf”. John Podesta responds with “Yup”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/727#efmAAGAAJABQAEL
  4. Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta owned 75,000 shares in Putin-connected energy company:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4635#efmAFyAGUAWLAYP
  5. Transcripts from Hillary Clinton’s lucrative closed-door paid speeches delivered to elite financial firms and other special interests groups  (which she has refused and failed to disclose to the public after much demand) have finally surfaced:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927 (See Attachment)
  6. Clinton staff conspiring to stage ‘leaking’ of favorable excerpts from wall street speech, in efforts to calm down the public while leaving out more damaging parts:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8086#efmAYqAgR
  7. Leaked private speech, Clinton: “You Need Both A Public And A Private Position”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#efmAaQAdiFjUFkd
  8. Leaked private speech, Clinton: “My dream is a hemispheric common market, with
    open trade and open borders”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#efmFjUFkd
  9. Leaked private speech transcript shows Clinton’s warm ties to Wall Street’s most powerful figures: Clinton: “There is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives” The pressure on officials to sell or divest assets in order to serve, she added, had become “very onerous and unnecessary”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#efmDEMDKk
  10. Leaked private speech to Goldman Sachs, Clinton: Wall Street was only accountable for the financial crisis for political reasons.  The blame placed on the United States banking system for the crisis “could have been avoided in terms of both misunderstanding and really politicizing what happened”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#efmA2YA5Q
  11. Leaked private speech, Clinton: US will “ring China with missile defense” and has right to rename Pacific Ocean the “American Sea”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927 (See attachment)
  12. Hillary Clinton  flipped her public position on TPP  after her team discussed how she would be “eaten alive” by Labor:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8452#efmAH1APRA0NA5c
  13. Clinton speechwriter: We are trying to find a good way to leak her opposition to the pipeline without her having to actually say it”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3855#efmAAGADH

With the majority of the media in Hillary’s back pocket, the only thing that we can do at this point is just keep doing our part by tirelessly working to expose her. With several polls  showing a Hillary leadover Trump in many swing states, we must do everything we can to shine a light on the corruption and get those people who are on the fence swayed over to our side. If this woman does wind up getting elected president, at least you can sleep at night knowing that you did everything in your power to prevent it from happening.

Continue sharing stories like this and help expose the corruption. Before you go to bed at night, pray for God’s mercy on our families and on our nation. If this woman gets into office, the America that we know and love will be lost forever.

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LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Oct 23, 2016

Question:

Is Larry Nichols, the confessed Hitman for the Clintons, still alive ???

If so, why hasn't he been arrested and jailed yet ??

Who is investigating these allegations that the Clintons have maintained a Hit Squad for so many years, other than the Media  ??

Why hasn't Donald Trump mentioned any of this Clinton Hit Squad Scandal yet ??

 

I am starting to wonder, who really is the lesser of these 2 Evils ??

 

I am still voting for Jill Stein !!!  Yes Nod

 

If the Election ends up in the hands of Congress to decide, I wonder if Congress would seriously consider  electing Evan McMullin for President [if he is in the Top 3] ???  It might be worth disenfranchising many American Voters, for the greater good of the nation as a whole, to choose McMullin over Trump or Clinton.

destiny, just curious.  Why are you voting for Jill Stein?

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

           DNC Doggie Style Politics back again form 2008 for 2016                    Politics go to the dogs in Georgia as DNC feeds starving dogs this October of 2016.The FORWARD AMERICA DNC  driver dumped hundreds of gallons of human waste from bus tanks on the Grayson Highway in the city ofLawrenceville, Georgia and telling the police tanks full and leaking on road so he did not want to mess up or contaminate the highway. 

"Happily" a DNC spokesperson reported there has been NO charges from any local or state of Georgia authorities an  DNC does apologize to everyone concerning this matter. The driver has been discplinied with a pat on his buddox but, spokesperson said it was not intended to hurt him. ABC-CBS-NBC and all the rest agreed never to report this story!!!

Twenty years ago Mitt Romney was 36 years old he took his family and dog on vacation. In 2008 Romney a Repub ran against a Drat for president. A Derat reporter Lany Davis, broke "big" story that Romney put his dog in a roof top carrier and drove & tortured the dog for twelve long hard cruel mean bad no good long hours. ABC-CBS-NBC-CNN & all the rest KEPT this story on & on & on & on & going & telling everyone MITT ROMNEY was "UNFIT to be president. YOU must elect a progressive if you want HOPE and CHANGE for this country was their "BIG" message back then. Do you "remember" that 24/7 message on "twitter" from DNC...Romney's dog would make better president he would...??     

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 23, 2016

New from wikileaks.

Julian Assange Gets Sweet Revenge After Hillary Cuts His Internet


With just a little over 2 weeks before the presidential election, Hillary Clinton is pulling out all the stops to keep Julian Assange’s mouth shut. With no success at actually  killing him, her minions did the next best thing by  cutting off his internet  at the embassy several days ago. Unfortunately for Hillary, a <snip>ing list has just been released, highlighting the things she’s done against the very country she seeks to lead.

The last couple of weeks of Wikileaks’ data dumps have placed a very disturbing spotlight on the inner workings of Hillary and her crooked campaign. From voter fraud to accepting bribes from terrorists, the list of infractions against our country is just insane at this point. While it’s difficult to weed through the thousands of emails to find the important stuff, the following is a list of the 13 most <snip>ing emails that show straight-up acts of treason on Hillary Clinton’s part, as nicely constructed by  Conservative Byte:

Hillary’s 13 Acts of Treason against the United States

  1. Qatar gives Bill Clinton $1,000,000 for his birthday:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8396#efmAEOAGW
  2. Saudi Sheikh won’t donate money to Clinton Foundation unless he receives a phone call from Bill Clinton. Staff responds: Bill won’t do it “unless Sheikh Mo has sent us a $6 million check”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6775#efmACoADwAIqAJzAOXASM
  3. Iran Deal (which Hillary negotiated and defends) “condemns the next generation to cleaning up a nuclear war in the Persian Gulf”. John Podesta responds with “Yup”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/727#efmAAGAAJABQAEL
  4. Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta owned 75,000 shares in Putin-connected energy company:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4635#efmAFyAGUAWLAYP
  5. Transcripts from Hillary Clinton’s lucrative closed-door paid speeches delivered to elite financial firms and other special interests groups  (which she has refused and failed to disclose to the public after much demand) have finally surfaced:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927 (See Attachment)
  6. Clinton staff conspiring to stage ‘leaking’ of favorable excerpts from wall street speech, in efforts to calm down the public while leaving out more damaging parts:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8086#efmAYqAgR
  7. Leaked private speech, Clinton: “You Need Both A Public And A Private Position”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#efmAaQAdiFjUFkd
  8. Leaked private speech, Clinton: “My dream is a hemispheric common market, with
    open trade and open borders”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#efmFjUFkd
  9. Leaked private speech transcript shows Clinton’s warm ties to Wall Street’s most powerful figures: Clinton: “There is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives” The pressure on officials to sell or divest assets in order to serve, she added, had become “very onerous and unnecessary”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#efmDEMDKk
  10. Leaked private speech to Goldman Sachs, Clinton: Wall Street was only accountable for the financial crisis for political reasons.  The blame placed on the United States banking system for the crisis “could have been avoided in terms of both misunderstanding and really politicizing what happened”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#efmA2YA5Q
  11. Leaked private speech, Clinton: US will “ring China with missile defense” and has right to rename Pacific Ocean the “American Sea”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927 (See attachment)
  12. Hillary Clinton  flipped her public position on TPP  after her team discussed how she would be “eaten alive” by Labor:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8452#efmAH1APRA0NA5c
  13. Clinton speechwriter: We are trying to find a good way to leak her opposition to the pipeline without her having to actually say it”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3855#efmAAGADH

With the majority of the media in Hillary’s back pocket, the only thing that we can do at this point is just keep doing our part by tirelessly working to expose her. With several polls  showing a Hillary leadover Trump in many swing states, we must do everything we can to shine a light on the corruption and get those people who are on the fence swayed over to our side. If this woman does wind up getting elected president, at least you can sleep at night knowing that you did everything in your power to prevent it from happening.

Continue sharing stories like this and help expose the corruption. Before you go to bed at night, pray for God’s mercy on our families and on our nation. If this woman gets into office, the America that we know and love will be lost forever.

This post has been automatically changed by the Lottery Post computer system to remove inappropriate content and/or spam.

grwurston... Guess the law doesn't apply to Hillary Clinton.  Did you hear a 4 star general is up on charges for telling a lie to the FBI?  He says he did it for national security reasons, yet they are charging him with a crime and he could serve 5 years in prison.  Just another reason people are fed-up with this rigged system of justice.

bigbear29

Donald Trump’s campaign manager admits: ‘We are behind’:

Donald Trump's campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, a longtime Republican pollster, admitted Sunday that her candidate is currently losing to Democrat Hillary Clinton.

"We are behind," Conway said on NBC's "Meet the Press." Clinton, she said, "has some advantages, like $66 million in ad buys just in the month of September, thereby doubling her ad buys from August. Now, most of those ads are negative against Donald Trump — classic politics of personal destruction, cesspool kind of ads. And she has tremendous advantages: She has a former president, who happens to be her husband, campaigning for her. The current president and first lady, vice president, all much more popular than she can hope to be."

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 23, 2016

grwurston... Guess the law doesn't apply to Hillary Clinton.  Did you hear a 4 star general is up on charges for telling a lie to the FBI?  He says he did it for national security reasons, yet they are charging him with a crime and he could serve 5 years in prison.  Just another reason people are fed-up with this rigged system of justice.

Yeah I heard that, talk about a double standard, huh? There's also polls saying Trump is up 69% to 19%, of course they're

not on ClintonNewsNetwork etc. We have to get out and vote for Trump, we can't let 69% be good enough. If Hillary gets in

we are F'ed as a country.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Hey bear, I'm voting for Trump and no one ever called me for a poll.  I'm sure there are millions of others in the same boat.  Don't count your chickens before they're hatched.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 23, 2016

Hey bear, I'm voting for Trump and no one ever called me for a poll.  I'm sure there are millions of others in the same boat.  Don't count your chickens before they're hatched.

I Agree!

bigbear29

Clinton Vaults to a Double-Digit Lead, Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump:

Hillary  has vaulted to a double-digit advantage in the inaugural ABC News 2016 election tracking poll, boosted by broad disapproval of Donald Trump on two controversial issues: His treatment of women and his reluctance to endorse the election’s legitimacy.

Likely voters by a vast 69-24 percent disapprove of Trump’s response to questions about his treatment of women. After a series of allegations of past sexual misconduct, the poll finds that some women who’d initially given him the benefit of the doubt have since moved away.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 23, 2016

Clinton Vaults to a Double-Digit Lead, Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump:

Hillary  has vaulted to a double-digit advantage in the inaugural ABC News 2016 election tracking poll, boosted by broad disapproval of Donald Trump on two controversial issues: His treatment of women and his reluctance to endorse the election’s legitimacy.

Likely voters by a vast 69-24 percent disapprove of Trump’s response to questions about his treatment of women. After a series of allegations of past sexual misconduct, the poll finds that some women who’d initially given him the benefit of the doubt have since moved away.

Hey bear, there's more pressing issues in this country.  Tired of hearing women this and women that.  If it weren't for men, there wouldn't be any women.  What, men don't count anymore?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 23, 2016

Clinton Vaults to a Double-Digit Lead, Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump:

Hillary  has vaulted to a double-digit advantage in the inaugural ABC News 2016 election tracking poll, boosted by broad disapproval of Donald Trump on two controversial issues: His treatment of women and his reluctance to endorse the election’s legitimacy.

Likely voters by a vast 69-24 percent disapprove of Trump’s response to questions about his treatment of women. After a series of allegations of past sexual misconduct, the poll finds that some women who’d initially given him the benefit of the doubt have since moved away.

So in your mind Bear Trump's alleged treatment of women is far worse than Hillary accepting tens of millions of dollars from Middle Eastern countries that practice 'honor killings (as Sully pointed out) and worse. 

Nice mindset you have there. Pick out your Middle Eastern third world theocratic hell and see if you still want someone like Hillary as president. 

Better yet, since you think Trump is far worse than Hillary on women, before you go to your islamic hell hole of choice get a sex change operation first, then see what you think. Of course in that instance you won't be allowed to tell anybody.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 23, 2016

New from wikileaks.

Julian Assange Gets Sweet Revenge After Hillary Cuts His Internet


With just a little over 2 weeks before the presidential election, Hillary Clinton is pulling out all the stops to keep Julian Assange’s mouth shut. With no success at actually  killing him, her minions did the next best thing by  cutting off his internet  at the embassy several days ago. Unfortunately for Hillary, a <snip>ing list has just been released, highlighting the things she’s done against the very country she seeks to lead.

The last couple of weeks of Wikileaks’ data dumps have placed a very disturbing spotlight on the inner workings of Hillary and her crooked campaign. From voter fraud to accepting bribes from terrorists, the list of infractions against our country is just insane at this point. While it’s difficult to weed through the thousands of emails to find the important stuff, the following is a list of the 13 most <snip>ing emails that show straight-up acts of treason on Hillary Clinton’s part, as nicely constructed by  Conservative Byte:

Hillary’s 13 Acts of Treason against the United States

  1. Qatar gives Bill Clinton $1,000,000 for his birthday:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8396#efmAEOAGW
  2. Saudi Sheikh won’t donate money to Clinton Foundation unless he receives a phone call from Bill Clinton. Staff responds: Bill won’t do it “unless Sheikh Mo has sent us a $6 million check”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6775#efmACoADwAIqAJzAOXASM
  3. Iran Deal (which Hillary negotiated and defends) “condemns the next generation to cleaning up a nuclear war in the Persian Gulf”. John Podesta responds with “Yup”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/727#efmAAGAAJABQAEL
  4. Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta owned 75,000 shares in Putin-connected energy company:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4635#efmAFyAGUAWLAYP
  5. Transcripts from Hillary Clinton’s lucrative closed-door paid speeches delivered to elite financial firms and other special interests groups  (which she has refused and failed to disclose to the public after much demand) have finally surfaced:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927 (See Attachment)
  6. Clinton staff conspiring to stage ‘leaking’ of favorable excerpts from wall street speech, in efforts to calm down the public while leaving out more damaging parts:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8086#efmAYqAgR
  7. Leaked private speech, Clinton: “You Need Both A Public And A Private Position”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#efmAaQAdiFjUFkd
  8. Leaked private speech, Clinton: “My dream is a hemispheric common market, with
    open trade and open borders”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#efmFjUFkd
  9. Leaked private speech transcript shows Clinton’s warm ties to Wall Street’s most powerful figures: Clinton: “There is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives” The pressure on officials to sell or divest assets in order to serve, she added, had become “very onerous and unnecessary”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#efmDEMDKk
  10. Leaked private speech to Goldman Sachs, Clinton: Wall Street was only accountable for the financial crisis for political reasons.  The blame placed on the United States banking system for the crisis “could have been avoided in terms of both misunderstanding and really politicizing what happened”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#efmA2YA5Q
  11. Leaked private speech, Clinton: US will “ring China with missile defense” and has right to rename Pacific Ocean the “American Sea”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927 (See attachment)
  12. Hillary Clinton  flipped her public position on TPP  after her team discussed how she would be “eaten alive” by Labor:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8452#efmAH1APRA0NA5c
  13. Clinton speechwriter: We are trying to find a good way to leak her opposition to the pipeline without her having to actually say it”:
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3855#efmAAGADH

With the majority of the media in Hillary’s back pocket, the only thing that we can do at this point is just keep doing our part by tirelessly working to expose her. With several polls  showing a Hillary leadover Trump in many swing states, we must do everything we can to shine a light on the corruption and get those people who are on the fence swayed over to our side. If this woman does wind up getting elected president, at least you can sleep at night knowing that you did everything in your power to prevent it from happening.

Continue sharing stories like this and help expose the corruption. Before you go to bed at night, pray for God’s mercy on our families and on our nation. If this woman gets into office, the America that we know and love will be lost forever.

This post has been automatically changed by the Lottery Post computer system to remove inappropriate content and/or spam.

None of what you posted is going to sway voters', want to know why? Cause for one the emails were " hacked" and they could very  "possibly "be altered, which is the reason the Clinton camp does not verify the authenticity of the hacked emails. Second: unless a Hitman comes forward saying he killed so and so at the direction of Bill or Hill, it's not going to do any good. Unrelated to this post is the point about Gloria Allred now the lawyer for another Trump accuser,* which l think stinks, l am not defending Gloria, but saying her being a supporter of hill is the reason she is representing this woman is crazy. Gloria loves the limelight, she has represented lots of women in unrelated to politics- she loves money & fame. Don't get the two mixed up, politics & fame.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trump rally in Naples, FL.  Live stream starts in about 2 hours.  I don't know how he does it.  Sometimes 2 or 3 rallies in the same day.  He's the energy king.  Where's Hillary?  Sleeping.

bigbear29

Correction, If it weren't for men and women, there wouldn't be any women or men.  Not, "If it weren't for men, there wouldn't be any women".

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

The crimes against Hilda that really matter are lying to congress and deleting the emails after she was given

notice.  These two things can either ruin her run for president or give congress a means to remove her after

the election. 

I think the reason congress has not moved is because Obama would pardon her making her off limits.   If they

wait until after the election, if she does win then they can appoint a special prosecutor.  However this depends

on the seats lost or gained in Congress.

Everyone with a brain knows she's guilty of crimes that would at least remove her security clearance making it

impossible to fulfill the job of president.  I believe Congress has good cause to appoint a special prosecutor and

then impeach her.   Don't expect her to abide by the law but corrupt it.  Without law we have no country and that

is her master plan. 

With the corruption we see everyday in our government I doubt that any such thing will ever happen but I could

be wrong.  At best it reveals the mindset of many anti-americans living in this country.  No morals, no loyalty to God

or country.  Bottom of the barrel scum sucking maggot $hit.

RL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 23, 2016

Correction, If it weren't for men and women, there wouldn't be any women or men.  Not, "If it weren't for men, there wouldn't be any women".

I was trying to make a point.  Men matter too.  OH how's this for a slogan... Men Lives Matter?  Obama is anti-white and Hillary will be anti-man.  Is that what we want?

bigbear29

It is a combination of things that trump has said from day one that gives people an opinion of trump.  One thing is, trump's campaign has stated, "STAY ON MESSAGE".  So, if trump doesn't listen to his own campaign team, who is trump going to listen to if he became president?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 23, 2016

I was trying to make a point.  Men matter too.  OH how's this for a slogan... Men Lives Matter?  Obama is anti-white and Hillary will be anti-man.  Is that what we want?

Hilda is anti-human race, except for herself, don't be fooled by her lying tongue>

RL

bigbear29

Oh yes, you and RL are a trump follower!  DANG!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Bear you said you were a Bernie supporter.  How does it feel now?  Wall Street is financing Hillary Clintons campaign?  LOL

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Better Trump followers than mindless Hillary robots Bear. 

WAKE UP

bigbear29

I'm good, I'm voting for Hillary!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Trump is running on what he sees as major problems in the US.  Once a person starts adjusting for every little

thing then they wind up with their hands tied.  Hilda flops around like a fish out of water and tries to come up

with a answer that covers everything.  No person with a working brain would trust someone like that.  There is

a old saying "you have to stand for something or you will fall for anything.  Hilda can't remember anything when

if comes to what she has said or done, what makes you think she will remember any of the things she has said

she will do.  All lairs suffer this sort of thing.  They have lied so often that even they can't keep the lies straight.

Leaders make decisions and then go with them and sometimes they make mistakes.  Armchair quarterbacks are

a dime a dozen. 

RL

bigbear29

All that trump rhetoric from day one, and you call me mindless!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 23, 2016

I'm good, I'm voting for Hillary!

It's your bad, you trust a known liar. 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 23, 2016

All that trump rhetoric from day one, and you call me mindless!

No, just plain stupid.

RL

bigbear29

Hillary FLIP-FLOPS?  Where have you been from day one of trump's campaign?

bigbear29

I will take the liar over the IDIOT!

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 23, 2016

Hey bear, there's more pressing issues in this country.  Tired of hearing women this and women that.  If it weren't for men, there wouldn't be any women.  What, men don't count anymore?

       I Agree!    You tell him GreenBay....

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 23, 2016

       I Agree!    You tell him GreenBay....

I'm beginning to think he's a her.

bigbear29

How mega-donors helped raise $1 billion for Hillary Clinton's campaign.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 23, 2016

How mega-donors helped raise $1 billion for Hillary Clinton's campaign.

You should rip that Bernie bumper sticker off your yugo right now.  You're a traitor to your cause.  I'm a republican and I'm disgusted by Wall Street fat cats deciding our elections and policy.  We get screwed time and time again.  You're a stinking fraud bear.

bigbear29

Oh my, my my my my,  "I'm a traitor to my cause",  and you are just an idiot!  So, I should vote for Bernie?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 23, 2016

Oh my, my my my my,  "I'm a traitor to my cause",  and you are just an idiot!  So, I should vote for Bernie?

LOL. You can vote for Bernie as a write in vote. Just an idea.....

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 23, 2016

Oh my, my my my my,  "I'm a traitor to my cause",  and you are just an idiot!  So, I should vote for Bernie?

Actually I think you should vote for Trump.  Notice I didn't insult you like you did to me?

bigbear29

Wow, I will keep that in mind.

bigbear29

Trump is a racist or he acts like one to get more votes.  So No, I can't vote for trump.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

obama's a racist.  Did you vote for him?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 23, 2016

I was trying to make a point.  Men matter too.  OH how's this for a slogan... Men Lives Matter?  Obama is anti-white and Hillary will be anti-man.  Is that what we want?

LMAO!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 22, 2016

No, just angry at his own childish behavior.  I thought you were too, but that was before you resorted to the dishonest straw man tactics.  You even used them in the post when you declared you weren't using them.

More intelligent than what?   I'm certainly more intelligent than any Hillary supporter, esp. any in this thread...although that's not saying much and is a pretty low bar to leap.

"No, just angry at his own childish behavior."

You lose credibility with lame childish name calling to the point where your level of intelligence is in question. Someone told me a couple years ago a poster got so angry from what he read, he had a stroke or a heart attack and is no longer posting. One of the problems hard core Trump supporters have are his remarks can be used to insult them.  Maybe they should be aiming your anger at him.

"I thought you were too, but that was before you resorted to the dishonest straw man tactics."

Quoting Trump is not a "strawman argument" and pretending he never said it changes nothing. It's a fact Trump said "We won with poorly educated; I love the poorly educated".

"More intelligent than what?"

Trump is a prime example of why "highly educated" doesn't always mean "highly intelligent".  Was it highly intelligent of Trump say avoiding paying taxes was smart while trying to convince real tax payers to vote for him?

"I'm certainly more intelligent than any Hillary supporter, esp. any in this thread "

February in Las Vegas Trump said "The guards are being very gentle with him, I’d like to punch him in the face, I’ll tell you that." Seriously how does threatening bodily harm prove your more intelligent?

Did you miss where some of Trump supporters here freaked out when Joe Biden said "I wish I could take him behind the gym"? In context, Trump said that about a protester in custody being removed from the event and Biden was "calling out" Trump for bragging about groping women. 

Any ways it will be over in a couple of weeks even though the anti-Clinton people, just the like the anti-Obama people won't let go.

bigbear29

Karl Rove: Donald Trump Can’t Win:

Karl Rove is throwing in the towel.

In an appearance on “Fox News Sunday,” the Republican strategist said thatDonald Trump’s poll numbers are simply too dismal to end in victory on election night.

“I don’t see it happening,” Rove told Fox. “If he plays an inside straight, he could get it, but I doubt he’s going to be able to play it.”

Rove explained Trump’s electoral vote deficit, swing state by swing state. Mitt Romney only won 206 electoral votes in 2012, and according to Rove’s judgment, Trump can only feel comfortable about 168, with just over two weeks to go before the Nov. 8 election. 

Trump, Rove said, is barely eking out a polling lead in Ohio and Iowa, which Obama won in 2012. But he is also behind in North Carolina and Arizona, states that Romney won. And his deficit in other electoral vote-rich states like Florida is so severe that he is unlikely to pull ahead.

“I doubt that in the just over two weeks we’ve got left, conducting the kind of campaign he’s conducting, that he’s going to be able to swing 1 out of every, you know, 10 voters, 1 out of every 12 voters, 1 out of every 15 voters and 1 out of every 6 voters in a state and convert them,” Rove said.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I've been tested, twice.  Scored 143 on the first and 139 on the second.  I also scored in the top 1% on my entrance

exams nation wide yet I am voting for Trump.  Go figure.

RL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 23, 2016

Since none of the Hillary supporters here have yet to mention any of her accomplishments maybe this is one;

Clinton Foundation Employed a Now-Imprisoned Senior Muslim Brotherhood Official
https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/10/20/rewind-clinton-foundation-subsidized-now-imprisoned-senior-muslim-brotherhood-official/

"Since none of the Hillary supporters here have yet to mention any of her accomplishments maybe this is one;"

Which of the Trump accomplishments are you most proud of?

Bragging about groping any women because he's a celebrity?

Saying POWs are not war heros?

Trying to convince real tax payers to vote for him by saying he's smart for avoiding paying taxes?

Attacking a Gold Star family?

Bet it's saying he "loves the poorly educated"?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 23, 2016

Karl Rove: Donald Trump Can’t Win:

Karl Rove is throwing in the towel.

In an appearance on “Fox News Sunday,” the Republican strategist said thatDonald Trump’s poll numbers are simply too dismal to end in victory on election night.

“I don’t see it happening,” Rove told Fox. “If he plays an inside straight, he could get it, but I doubt he’s going to be able to play it.”

Rove explained Trump’s electoral vote deficit, swing state by swing state. Mitt Romney only won 206 electoral votes in 2012, and according to Rove’s judgment, Trump can only feel comfortable about 168, with just over two weeks to go before the Nov. 8 election. 

Trump, Rove said, is barely eking out a polling lead in Ohio and Iowa, which Obama won in 2012. But he is also behind in North Carolina and Arizona, states that Romney won. And his deficit in other electoral vote-rich states like Florida is so severe that he is unlikely to pull ahead.

“I doubt that in the just over two weeks we’ve got left, conducting the kind of campaign he’s conducting, that he’s going to be able to swing 1 out of every, you know, 10 voters, 1 out of every 12 voters, 1 out of every 15 voters and 1 out of every 6 voters in a state and convert them,” Rove said.

Karl Rove, aka Bush's brain, is one of Hilda's clan.  Remember bush is voting Hilda.  I was against Bush, both of

them to be exact.  Birds of a feather flock together.  Remember how GW lied to everyone??? 

RL

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 23, 2016

"Since none of the Hillary supporters here have yet to mention any of her accomplishments maybe this is one;"

Which of the Trump accomplishments are you most proud of?

Bragging about groping any women because he's a celebrity?

Saying POWs are not war heros?

Trying to convince real tax payers to vote for him by saying he's smart for avoiding paying taxes?

Attacking a Gold Star family?

Bet it's saying he "loves the poorly educated"?

You poor snowflake, unable to handle bad words.  I feel so bad for you.

But you really should consider that some "bad words" are nothing but words.  On the other hand, someone who actually lets four people die in Libya is a REALLY bad person.

Or a person who demonizes and destroys several women who were raped and abused by her husband.  Yes, now THAT'S a bad person.

Or take someone who works for the government, yet hides ALL of their correspondence on a personal computer server, and then DELETES more than half of all the e-mails in that server after receiving a subpoena to deliver all of them to Congress.  Now THAT'S a bad person.

Or, worse yet, someone who does ALL of those horrible things.  Can someone like that actually exist?  I mean, even ONE of those things would make someone "bad" -- how could one person possibly do all of that?  Yet here we are, and you're defending the undefendable.  You're saying a person who says some curse words and brags about sex to another guy is the bad one.  Talk about a lack of perspective.  Just atrocious.

bigbear29

Republicans Could Lose The Senate Majority

The most likely outcome is a 50-50 split. But with the Clinton-Kaine presidential ticket likely to win, it would become a Democratic majority.

Trump's unpopularity is threatening to take the Republican Senate majority down with him. 

Accounting for the presidential race, the Democrats have a 61 percent chance of winning the majority and Republicans have a 39 percent chance of holding onto control. Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton is overwhelmingly favored to win the presidency, which would make her running mate Tim Kaine the tie-breaking vote as vice president.

DANG!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

double b

I told you to stop watching the major news networks who are bought and paid for by the Hilda clan.

Watch the major news live pole posted earlier in this topic.  I will re-post the link if needed.

RL

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Rove doesn't know what he is talking about sometimes. He predicted on election night Romney was winning when it was clear he was losing.

Everybody is clinging to the polls like a bunch of chickens, and maybe, maybe the polls are right. But I think there are people that are keeping their votes to themselves until election day (or early voting) and they are voting for Trump.

For the life of me, I can not imagine how a person that let those men die in Benghazi without lifting a finger to even try to send help can run for president, and why anyone would even consider voting for her.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 23, 2016

Rove doesn't know what he is talking about sometimes. He predicted on election night Romney was winning when it was clear he was losing.

Everybody is clinging to the polls like a bunch of chickens, and maybe, maybe the polls are right. But I think there are people that are keeping their votes to themselves until election day (or early voting) and they are voting for Trump.

For the life of me, I can not imagine how a person that let those men die in Benghazi without lifting a finger to even try to send help can run for president, and why anyone would even consider voting for her.

She not only let them die.....they were witnesses to her arming terrorists, couldn't give them a chance to testify, could she?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

If the news networks were honest I might believe the polls but they have no credibility, might as well be reading

the national enquirer.   This election is rigged in so many ways, I just hope that it does not reach the ballot box.

RL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 23, 2016

Karl Rove, aka Bush's brain, is one of Hilda's clan.  Remember bush is voting Hilda.  I was against Bush, both of

them to be exact.  Birds of a feather flock together.  Remember how GW lied to everyone??? 

RL

Karl is no idiot- he saw what happened to his political standing  when he backed Romney and "almost" became a non topic, his covering his bets to stay relevant. It's no different from some of the other Republicana in Congress etc- if Trump was riding high in the polls and beating Hillary by double digits, you bet your sweet tooth that they would be sticking to him like shytt on a blanket, but they attempting to keep a distance from him out of fear of losing their seats back home. It's typical politics and they all play that game.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 23, 2016

None of what you posted is going to sway voters', want to know why? Cause for one the emails were " hacked" and they could very  "possibly "be altered, which is the reason the Clinton camp does not verify the authenticity of the hacked emails. Second: unless a Hitman comes forward saying he killed so and so at the direction of Bill or Hill, it's not going to do any good. Unrelated to this post is the point about Gloria Allred now the lawyer for another Trump accuser,* which l think stinks, l am not defending Gloria, but saying her being a supporter of hill is the reason she is representing this woman is crazy. Gloria loves the limelight, she has represented lots of women in unrelated to politics- she loves money & fame. Don't get the two mixed up, politics & fame.

C'mon man... Gloria has represented women against Bill Cosby, she is now also representing women against Trump, but NOT women assaulted by Bill Clinton? Why wouldn't she do that?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I bet we will see them all patting Trump on the back if he wins, saying he's the right man for the job. 

If Hilda wins they will be saying the same thing. 

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 23, 2016

Clinton Vaults to a Double-Digit Lead, Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump:

Hillary  has vaulted to a double-digit advantage in the inaugural ABC News 2016 election tracking poll, boosted by broad disapproval of Donald Trump on two controversial issues: His treatment of women and his reluctance to endorse the election’s legitimacy.

Likely voters by a vast 69-24 percent disapprove of Trump’s response to questions about his treatment of women. After a series of allegations of past sexual misconduct, the poll finds that some women who’d initially given him the benefit of the doubt have since moved away.

So when was that poll taken?  Show us.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

None of what you posted is going to sway voters', want to know why? Cause for one the emails were " hacked" and they could very  "possibly "be altered, which is the reason the Clinton camp does not verify the authenticity of the hacked emails. Second: unless a Hitman comes forward saying he killed so and so at the direction of Bill or Hill, it's not going to do any good. Unrelated to this post is the point about Gloria Allred now the lawyer for another Trump accuser,* which l think stinks, l am not defending Gloria, but saying her being a supporter of hill is the reason she is representing this woman is crazy. Gloria loves the limelight, she has represented lots of women in unrelated to politics- she loves money & fame. Don't get the two mixed up, politics & fame.

The emails can be authenticated and proved to be correct.  They won't dare do that because they know.  Anything they attempt

will be exposed. 

http://gizmodo.com/this-is-probably-why-half-the-internet-shut-down-today-1788062835

bigbear29

It came out 9 hours ago.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 23, 2016

C'mon man... Gloria has represented women against Bill Cosby, she is now also representing women against Trump, but NOT women assaulted by Bill Clinton? Why wouldn't she do that?

Grrr- Gloria has been representing women for decades. She was even representing OJ Simpson's deceased wife Nicole. Represented one of Tiger woods " mistresses" along with many others as well- this woman is all over the board. What l am attempting to say is that just because she is a Hill supporter and is representing this woman, the connection between the two is a non issue. She loves being out there in front of the camera and tv. If Allred was asked to represent a woman accusing a democrat politician, she would be all in- its all about fame & fortune for her. She also calls herself a civil right lawyer. Btw- was she approached by Bill's accusers to take on their case?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 23, 2016

None of what you posted is going to sway voters', want to know why? Cause for one the emails were " hacked" and they could very  "possibly "be altered, which is the reason the Clinton camp does not verify the authenticity of the hacked emails. Second: unless a Hitman comes forward saying he killed so and so at the direction of Bill or Hill, it's not going to do any good. Unrelated to this post is the point about Gloria Allred now the lawyer for another Trump accuser,* which l think stinks, l am not defending Gloria, but saying her being a supporter of hill is the reason she is representing this woman is crazy. Gloria loves the limelight, she has represented lots of women in unrelated to politics- she loves money & fame. Don't get the two mixed up, politics & fame.

The emails can be authenticated and proved to be correct.  They won't dare do that because they know.  Anything they attempt

will be exposed. 

http://gizmodo.com/this-is-probably-why-half-the-internet-shut-down-today-1788062835

Whose the " they" here?

 

They won't dare do that because they know.  Anything they attempt

will be exposed. 

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Forgot to check the "quote" box. To Stack:

Quoting Trump is not a "strawman argument" and pretending he never said it changes nothing. It's a fact Trump said "We won with poorly educated; I love the poorly educated".

To quote Reagan in one of his debates:  "There you go again." (I believe he first used it with Carter, but trotted it out again for Mondale)

From Wiki: Straw man

A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent. The so-called typical "attacking a straw man" argument creates the illusion of having completely refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition by covertly replacing it with a different proposition (i.e. "stand up a straw man") and then refuting that false argument ("knock down a straw man") instead of the original proposition.

See?  You weren't talking about Trump, you were referring to me!  You do it frequently.  I called it "deflecting" earlier, way back in the thread and you said you HAD to do it....I don't remember the reason you used, but it's a common tactic of yours.  Sure, others do it as well but to quote you: "I thought you were smarter than that."  Like you told me earlier:  "Keep up."  Also, it was pointed out to you what-else Trump had said when he made that statement, but you're taking just that one sentence and running with it.  Context matters.

Earlier today, I was P.M.'d by someone wanting me to not respond "to that troll Stack" and that I should flag your posts for abuse in hopes "we" can get rid of you.  I replied that to be fair, I'd have to not only flag your posts, but mine as well and quite a few others in this thread, not to mention their own. 

If you want to call out any Trump supporters for their confirmation bias or false statements or for what you perceive to be hypocrisy, then by all means, have at it.  Have you seen me coming to their defense when you or others have challenged them on their posts?  Not very often, anyway.   I've stated how I feel about The Donald, but in this election, he truly IS the "lesser of two evils". 

Aren't you being as childish when you stoop to that level? 

Lastly, why should I care about my credibility with you or many others on this site? I care what a few in here think  of me but I'd have to care what the others think in order to value their opinion on my "credibility".  The only labels that truly matter are those I put on myself.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Someone in an earlier post wanted to know what Hillary's career accomplishments were. Well, here they are... there are many.

Please watch.

https://youtu.be/bZrS5ufoWzw

 

US Flag Trump 2016

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 23, 2016

C'mon man... Gloria has represented women against Bill Cosby, she is now also representing women against Trump, but NOT women assaulted by Bill Clinton? Why wouldn't she do that?

She wants to stay alive.

noise-gate

Image result for too little too late  SO       Image result for get over it

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 23, 2016

Karl Rove: Donald Trump Can’t Win:

Karl Rove is throwing in the towel.

In an appearance on “Fox News Sunday,” the Republican strategist said thatDonald Trump’s poll numbers are simply too dismal to end in victory on election night.

“I don’t see it happening,” Rove told Fox. “If he plays an inside straight, he could get it, but I doubt he’s going to be able to play it.”

Rove explained Trump’s electoral vote deficit, swing state by swing state. Mitt Romney only won 206 electoral votes in 2012, and according to Rove’s judgment, Trump can only feel comfortable about 168, with just over two weeks to go before the Nov. 8 election. 

Trump, Rove said, is barely eking out a polling lead in Ohio and Iowa, which Obama won in 2012. But he is also behind in North Carolina and Arizona, states that Romney won. And his deficit in other electoral vote-rich states like Florida is so severe that he is unlikely to pull ahead.

“I doubt that in the just over two weeks we’ve got left, conducting the kind of campaign he’s conducting, that he’s going to be able to swing 1 out of every, you know, 10 voters, 1 out of every 12 voters, 1 out of every 15 voters and 1 out of every 6 voters in a state and convert them,” Rove said.

In case you didn't know, Karl Rove and his "election model" had called for a Romney victory in 2012.

I believe Karl Rove is wrong again this time around.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Oct 23, 2016

You poor snowflake, unable to handle bad words.  I feel so bad for you.

But you really should consider that some "bad words" are nothing but words.  On the other hand, someone who actually lets four people die in Libya is a REALLY bad person.

Or a person who demonizes and destroys several women who were raped and abused by her husband.  Yes, now THAT'S a bad person.

Or take someone who works for the government, yet hides ALL of their correspondence on a personal computer server, and then DELETES more than half of all the e-mails in that server after receiving a subpoena to deliver all of them to Congress.  Now THAT'S a bad person.

Or, worse yet, someone who does ALL of those horrible things.  Can someone like that actually exist?  I mean, even ONE of those things would make someone "bad" -- how could one person possibly do all of that?  Yet here we are, and you're defending the undefendable.  You're saying a person who says some curse words and brags about sex to another guy is the bad one.  Talk about a lack of perspective.  Just atrocious.

She not only let 4 men die, she lied about it saying a video caused it. The man who did happen to make a video was arrested, can't even imagine what he was put through because of her lie. It is not okay to destroy someone's life to cover up wrong doing. That is pure evil.

 

Oh and snowflake...ROFL

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Oct 23, 2016

You poor snowflake, unable to handle bad words.  I feel so bad for you.

But you really should consider that some "bad words" are nothing but words.  On the other hand, someone who actually lets four people die in Libya is a REALLY bad person.

Or a person who demonizes and destroys several women who were raped and abused by her husband.  Yes, now THAT'S a bad person.

Or take someone who works for the government, yet hides ALL of their correspondence on a personal computer server, and then DELETES more than half of all the e-mails in that server after receiving a subpoena to deliver all of them to Congress.  Now THAT'S a bad person.

Or, worse yet, someone who does ALL of those horrible things.  Can someone like that actually exist?  I mean, even ONE of those things would make someone "bad" -- how could one person possibly do all of that?  Yet here we are, and you're defending the undefendable.  You're saying a person who says some curse words and brags about sex to another guy is the bad one.  Talk about a lack of perspective.  Just atrocious.

      Thumbs Up    Well said Todd..

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 22, 2016

Hilda supporters. Might not be that far off, remember Bill says she talks to the dead.  Maybe that's why we have

so many dead people voting in this election.

RL

You know what..this is too much..every few posts I go on here, I gotta LOL!

Clinton rally. 

Yeah the dead will rise and they won't be voting for Trump.

Imagine that.

I'd say get them off the books right now and put them back in their graves once and for all.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/pew-center-1-8-million-dead-people-voter-rolls-2-75-million-registered-two-states/ 

If someone posted that link already, sorry.

bigbear29

Canada's two Trump towers facing troubles:

In Vancouver, the developer of a new Trump Tower has been under pressure for months to drop the Republican presidential candidate's name from the project. Meanwhile, the Trump Tower in Toronto is the subject of a lawsuit after facing years of controversy.

Donald Trump's controversial run for US president is having an impact on his businesses in Canada and knock-on effects for those who have partnered with his brand.

The opening date for the Vancouver hotel has been delayed until 2017, well after November's US election. A contest offering a chance to meet with the Trump family for the grand opening caused a stir.

Across the country, the Toronto building, which opened in 2012, has been the target of a lawsuit by small investors who claim they were misled into buying into the project. Its developer, Talon Development Inc, has tried to remove the Trump name from the troubled hotel and condominium complex.

The story is similar in other countries.

In Dubai, a firm building a golf complex with Mr Trump removed his name and image from the property. In Turkey, the developers of Trump Towers Istanbul have tried to distance themselves from the Republican hopeful. And there have been protests outside Trump buildings in the US.

An Angus Reid Institute poll released in December indicated that 56% of Canadians supported having the Trump brand dumped from the two Canadian towers.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 23, 2016

Yikes, that is NOT a pretty picture of....

VOTE TRUMP

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 23, 2016

Hey Poobear,

How would you like to be working on her security detail and have to listen to THAT?

Dang, what a b!tch.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

 Five Most Dangerous Snakes of North America

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 23, 2016

This is who want with their finger on the "button?"   No No

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

And there's this;

...“When I first met her, we were given specific instructions: don’t look at her, don’t look at her general direction and if you need to talk to her, keep it short and stay out of her way,” the agent told The Post....

http://nypost.com/2016/10/19/hillary-clintons-security-detail-laughed-when-she-broke-her-elbow/

lejardin's avatarlejardin

LOL ISNT THAT TELLING HAHAHAHAHA Trump supporter with Billy.

 

VOTE TRUMP

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 23, 2016

And there's this;

...“When I first met her, we were given specific instructions: don’t look at her, don’t look at her general direction and if you need to talk to her, keep it short and stay out of her way,” the agent told The Post....

http://nypost.com/2016/10/19/hillary-clintons-security-detail-laughed-when-she-broke-her-elbow/

What a piece of work.  It sure sounds that Sos "job" was a prerequisite to the Presidential suite.

Wonder what her pay was to set herself up for the future run.   She didnt do anything of substance besides fly the world on a meet and greet tour while raking in millions.  Pathetic.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 23, 2016

 Five Most Dangerous Snakes of North America

The red lipsticked viper is the most deadly and poisonous

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 23, 2016

Seems race only matters to you huh?  Extremely glad the IDIOT will soon be out of the white house.  There's a reason he hid his college transcripts.

"There's a reason he hid his college transcripts."

And there is a reason why Trump loves his supporters that never went to college or finished high school. The difference is one of them is President and the other is doing damage control for making lots of those silly remarks.

BTW, the latest consensus poll show Clinton leading Nationally by 10 and in Wisconsin by 10 points too. And Russ Feingold is leading Ron Johnson by 8 points. Will you be moving to a Red state after the election?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I am going to enjoy the election results regardless of the outcome.  First if Trump wins I will enjoy the

same freedoms that I have had in the past.  If Hilda wins I will enjoy seeing the people who voted for

Hilda go deeper and deeper into poverty while living it up collecting them government handouts. 

The inner cities all crumbling into slums where the water is unfit to drink.  Advanced kids held back in school

so that the intellectually challenged will feel like they are top shelf and of coarse churches turned into social

gatherings without mention of God. 

Open boarders where anyone can just walk across the border, kill, rape and rob to their hearts content without

worry of ever being punished.  The US debt doubling or tripling with taxes so high people can't afford to work.

Obama care is already so bad that the working class can't afford to get sick.  The only jobs most can hope for

is there kids working as drug mules supplementing the food stamps.  The age of consent dropping to 12 like it

is in Mexico and kids walking the streets. 

After all we have been so enriched by the millions of illegals, most of which have no education who will be crossing

our open border.  Maybe they will set up sites where the democrats can cheer and jeer as the last of our American

industry goes south.  The few holdouts in the news media will be taken over by the large corporations so that we

only hear what they deem we need to know.  The internet will be taken away from the people and given over to

these media corporations who will control all content. 

All guns will be taken and the locks on the doors won't mater because it's too easy to kick them open knowing the

people behind them can't defend themselves.  No more police and when crime comes knocking on your door, "who

you gona call" no one will care.  These may seem afar off but one only has to visit one of our inner cities to see it

happening in real time.

Hilda claims to be for children, maybe she is, at least the ones that make it out of the womb in one piece.  Both Hilda

and Obama have been given the chance to prove they care for the less fortunate and minorities but somehow they

missed the mark unless we count the ones from other countries.   We might also include the people who's jobs left

the country but I am sure they would rather have a job then food stamps.

RL

 

 

RL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 23, 2016

So in your mind Bear Trump's alleged treatment of women is far worse than Hillary accepting tens of millions of dollars from Middle Eastern countries that practice 'honor killings (as Sully pointed out) and worse. 

Nice mindset you have there. Pick out your Middle Eastern third world theocratic hell and see if you still want someone like Hillary as president. 

Better yet, since you think Trump is far worse than Hillary on women, before you go to your islamic hell hole of choice get a sex change operation first, then see what you think. Of course in that instance you won't be allowed to tell anybody.

"So in your mind Bear Trump's alleged treatment of women"

"Alleged?

Why are you pretending Trump never said how he treated women to Billy Bush and then gave a insincere apology when he got caught?

grwurston's avatargrwurston
grwurston's avatargrwurston
RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 24, 2016

"So in your mind Bear Trump's alleged treatment of women"

"Alleged?

Why are you pretending Trump never said how he treated women to Billy Bush and then gave a insincere apology when he got caught?

Can you be any more of a dumb-ass.  I use to hear worst then what Trump said almost on a daily bases all

the way back to my school days.  Funny thing I never heard any girl claim one of them followed through.  It's

as bad now as it was back then but I never thought about it ever having anything to do with women but the

guy bragging about his own sexuality.   Women say similar things as I have been told.  I can't say it's true as

I don't hang out in girls locker rooms.

Give us a break.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 24, 2016

This is what Hillary thinks of the American people.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202370755185554&set=p.10202370755185554&type=3

Absolutely floors me instead of prison she is  running for President. 

Just proves how screwed up our rules and laws have become.  INSANITY.

VOTE TRUMP, CLEAN THE SWAMP.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

stack

With every post you make you drop lower and lower on the intellectual meter.  You sound like a broken record.

RL

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 24, 2016

Can you be any more of a dumb-ass.  I use to hear worst then what Trump said almost on a daily bases all

the way back to my school days.  Funny thing I never heard any girl claim one of them followed through.  It's

as bad now as it was back then but I never thought about it ever having anything to do with women but the

guy bragging about his own sexuality.   Women say similar things as I have been told.  I can't say it's true as

I don't hang out in girls locker rooms.

Give us a break.

Well I can.  I have heard both and I can tell you women are just as bad and it isnt just "locker rooms". 

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 23, 2016

I bet we will see them all patting Trump on the back if he wins, saying he's the right man for the job. 

If Hilda wins they will be saying the same thing. 

RL

I Agree! Just like them Wrestlers they trying to Kill each other Boxing.. but after it's over some them go out to Dinner with each other.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I only have to ask myself one question concerning who I should vote for.  Could Trump ever be worse than

Hilda?  I get the same answer every time, are you stupid, it's impossible?

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I don't see Trump ever warming up to Hilda but he's a business man so who knows.

RL

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 23, 2016

 Five Most Dangerous Snakes of North America

I Would KILL them Snakes.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 24, 2016

Absolutely floors me instead of prison she is  running for President. 

Just proves how screwed up our rules and laws have become.  INSANITY.

VOTE TRUMP, CLEAN THE SWAMP.

Exactly! How in the heck can she be considered for the highest security in the land? Much less not face any charges? Our taxes are paying for this sh*t for a justice system?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 23, 2016

Whose the " they" here?

 

They won't dare do that because they know.  Anything they attempt

will be exposed. 

You have to ask?  The ones in charge

RL

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

I Don't understand why they ain't in Trouble for doing all that Bad stuff.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Oct 24, 2016

I Don't understand why they ain't in Trouble for doing all that Bad stuff.

In a just system, they would be....

RL-RANDOMLOGIC
RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Watch this one if you care about America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LvsyUZpKlE

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Another video which should be of interest to all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iji1XubYN0E

RL

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 24, 2016

Another video which should be of interest to all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iji1XubYN0E

RL

Thanks for posting.....that was interesting.....

RL-RANDOMLOGIC
Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Oct 23, 2016

You poor snowflake, unable to handle bad words.  I feel so bad for you.

But you really should consider that some "bad words" are nothing but words.  On the other hand, someone who actually lets four people die in Libya is a REALLY bad person.

Or a person who demonizes and destroys several women who were raped and abused by her husband.  Yes, now THAT'S a bad person.

Or take someone who works for the government, yet hides ALL of their correspondence on a personal computer server, and then DELETES more than half of all the e-mails in that server after receiving a subpoena to deliver all of them to Congress.  Now THAT'S a bad person.

Or, worse yet, someone who does ALL of those horrible things.  Can someone like that actually exist?  I mean, even ONE of those things would make someone "bad" -- how could one person possibly do all of that?  Yet here we are, and you're defending the undefendable.  You're saying a person who says some curse words and brags about sex to another guy is the bad one.  Talk about a lack of perspective.  Just atrocious.

"You poor snowflake, unable to handle bad words.  I feel so bad for you."

LMAO!

I'll be just one out of about 130 million Americans voting on November 8 and unless things drastically change, Trump is going to get 8 electoral votes in my state. Doesn't that make how I handle what you call "bad words" irrelevant?

"On the other hand, someone who actually lets four people die in Libya is a REALLY bad person."

By my count, 83 people were killed during 20 attacks on U.S. Diplomatic Targets Under President George W. Bush between 2001-2009 and in another count there were 13 attacks and 60 deaths. But that's not counting all the military deaths based on the weapons of mass destruction lies. 

Last month I was at The Wall getting five rubbings for some neighbors. What do call someone "who actually lets" those five and another 58,190 die?

"Or a person who demonizes and destroys several women who were raped and abused by her husband."

Should we believe all the women claiming Trump assaulted them or wait until a jury hears their evidence?

"Or take someone who works for the government, yet hides ALL of their correspondence on a personal computer server, and then DELETES more than half of all the e-mails in that server after receiving a subpoena to deliver all of them to Congress."

Because of the immunity deal with the specialist, Paul Combetta, it's unlikely we'll ever know if he acted on his own or was ordered. 

"Yet here we are, and you're defending the undefendable."

Nope, I haven't defended anyone, but have quoted lots of Trump statements and probably quoted his Nevada remarks too many time.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the last time I looked, in America people are innocent until proved guilty. Where can I find the court convicting Hillary Clinton for "letting four people die in Libya", where Bill Clinton was convicted of "rape and abused", and why wasn't she charged with "hiding ALL of their correspondence" and "DELETES more than half of all the e-mails in that server after receiving a subpoena to deliver all of them to Congress."?

"You're saying a person who says some curse words and brags about sex to another guy is the bad one."

Nope, it's not me objecting to Trump's word or pretending to be offended; it's the opinion of quite a few Republican leaders and the current polls saying it.

"Talk about a lack of perspective."

With just allegations without proof, legal charges, and/or convictions, should there be a proper perspective or should we just do it the old fashioned way and let the voters' opinions decide this Presidential election too?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 23, 2016

I bet we will see them all patting Trump on the back if he wins, saying he's the right man for the job. 

If Hilda wins they will be saying the same thing. 

RL

"I bet we will see them all patting Trump on the back if he wins"

"if he wins"?

Doesn't sound like you're very positive.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 24, 2016

Can you be any more of a dumb-ass.  I use to hear worst then what Trump said almost on a daily bases all

the way back to my school days.  Funny thing I never heard any girl claim one of them followed through.  It's

as bad now as it was back then but I never thought about it ever having anything to do with women but the

guy bragging about his own sexuality.   Women say similar things as I have been told.  I can't say it's true as

I don't hang out in girls locker rooms.

Give us a break.

"I use to hear worst then what Trump said almost on a daily bases all the way back to my school days."

Heard "worst" from which Presidential candidate, back in the day?

It's not about what you heard, I heard, or anybody else heard; it's about whether Trump's remarks will help or hurt his election chances. IMO, I don't see how they can help him.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 24, 2016

stack

With every post you make you drop lower and lower on the intellectual meter.  You sound like a broken record.

RL

Yep, I can understand why when I show the polls where Trump is way behind or quoting him ragging on Republicans, calling lesser educated people "poorly educated", it greatly bothers you.

How many Republicans have you convinced to vote for Trump?

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Let's see, you are weighing Trumps remarks with Clinton's actions as SOS? Lock her up!

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Do married people have to Vote for the same person.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Oct 24, 2016

Do married people have to Vote for the same person.

To answer your question, NO.

 

Here is another video which shows who Hilda really is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaKzja_CX0\

Get the word out

RL

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 24, 2016

To answer your question, NO.

 

Here is another video which shows who Hilda really is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaKzja_CX0\

Get the word out

RL

OK Thanks..

That one Video scary Mr Anonymous. Home alone i shouldn't have watched that. Scared

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Not all those videos are real. 

 

Here is another important video that everyone should watch and then ask yourself why it's not being reported

on the major news networks.  We are being lied to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwn8EpYQP9E

RL

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Wow

bigbear29

When Hilary becomes president, will she totally go after Julian Assange?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

And by doing so will prove to everyone just how crooked she is.   Assange did not hack her emails

he just made them public.  In most cases I don't care much for hackers but in some cases such as

the email saga I am willing to make an exception.   Clinton has survived by hiding and destroying

evidence which would have sent her to prison many times.  Now with the www nothing is safe and

I do mean nothing.  I may be a deplorable but she is despicable.

RL

P.S. maybe you should look up the meanings of these words.

bigbear29

They can still go after Assange for receiving stolen property.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Ever republican I know is voting Trump and so are many democrats.  The only ones making a stink IMHO

are the ones with their heads up Clinton's ass.   It's easy to see which republicans are not really part of

the party.  I myself don't claim to be either, I always vote for the best choice which in this case is Trump.

You should be proud Trump loves the poorly educated as it means he loves you.  Tell me, did you even

finish high school?  Nothing in your post suggest otherwise.    As a mater of fact I am being kind because

I wanted to ask if you dropped out in junior high.   People don't vote intellectually they vote based on their

worldview.  The more educated the voter the more likely their worldview was programmed in their first few

years of collage and they will believe the same way for the rest of their lives.  Having a degree does not

count for anything when it comes to voting unless the degree is in political science or something similar

but again they are more than likely going to vote the party their professor fancied.  What would a person

with a PhD in physics know about Hilda?   A person with a PhD reads scholarly articles and journals written

by other scholars in the same field.   Every time you post the poorly educated crap it makes you look like a

fool. 

RL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 24, 2016

They can still go after Assange for receiving stolen property.

His wanted in connection with an alleged  rape charge back in his home country. Some say that's the reason his been hiding out in this embassy, he says it's because his exposing  govts that do bad things. Go figure.In fairness to him since he says his only doing the American people a favor,l would like to know whether he has ever "exposed" anything of Donald Trump or the Republican Party as a whole to the media, any media, if not why not? Are we to believe that only one political party in the United States is corrupt or has the appearance of corruption?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

P.S.

If you think shackling yourself to a party that claims to hold the line on advanced education makes you appear smarter, then

you are greatly mistaken, if anything it has the opposite effect. 

RL

bigbear29

I wonder if we can still get him for receiving stolen property and than turn him over to his home country for rape?

May-be not because he is staying in the Ecuadorian Embassy.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

IMHO the guy is a nobody who loves the spotlight, why else would he hold back stuff and release it little by little.

He could have dumped the entire batch and been done with it.  Weirdo has to be his middle name.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Double b

Your eagerness to have him punished for opening up the crimes committed by many within our government

is very telling.  Do you consider yourself part of the problem? 

RL

bigbear29

I think he was doing it right by releasing some at a time so it is always on peoples mind.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Then he must be dumber than a rock because there is not enough time to analyze them all before the election.

RL

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Still think Hillary is looking out for women and children?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Someone should have developed a tool that searched for keywords, phrases etc.. sort of like the ones used

in cross referencing ancient languages.   Doing this by hand could take years to tie everything together.

RL

bigbear29

I'm not sure why he does not go after the republicans, but I know he does not want Hillary to be President.  My-be for now it's just Hillary that he does not like.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 24, 2016

Still think Hillary is looking out for women and children?

She was just doing what any good public defender would do.  That's her excuse.  Hiding the evidence so that

the wicked go free.  Same old thing she is doing now.

RL

destinycreation

If the Election ends up in the Congress/Senate ....

Best Case Scenario ... to calm the Nation ...

 

U.S. President: Evan McMullin

U.S. Vice President: Gov. Mike Pence

                                  Yes Nod     

This is a winning ticket that could work for the Nation.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 24, 2016

Ever republican I know is voting Trump and so are many democrats.  The only ones making a stink IMHO

are the ones with their heads up Clinton's ass.   It's easy to see which republicans are not really part of

the party.  I myself don't claim to be either, I always vote for the best choice which in this case is Trump.

You should be proud Trump loves the poorly educated as it means he loves you.  Tell me, did you even

finish high school?  Nothing in your post suggest otherwise.    As a mater of fact I am being kind because

I wanted to ask if you dropped out in junior high.   People don't vote intellectually they vote based on their

worldview.  The more educated the voter the more likely their worldview was programmed in their first few

years of collage and they will believe the same way for the rest of their lives.  Having a degree does not

count for anything when it comes to voting unless the degree is in political science or something similar

but again they are more than likely going to vote the party their professor fancied.  What would a person

with a PhD in physics know about Hilda?   A person with a PhD reads scholarly articles and journals written

by other scholars in the same field.   Every time you post the poorly educated crap it makes you look like a

fool. 

RL

Every repub you know is voting for Trump? You must have a small circle of people you know, no disrespect intended. 

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Oct 24, 2016

If the Election ends up in the Congress/Senate ....

Best Case Scenario ... to calm the Nation ...

 

U.S. President: Evan McMullin

U.S. Vice President: Gov. Mike Pence

                                  Yes Nod     

This is a winning ticket that could work for the Nation.

 I respectfully disagree- why you ask? Just take one look at the approval rating of both houses with repubs at the helm and now you want to throw in more into the Oval Office resulting in chaos? That DC, is a recipe for disaster imho.

As always: an opinion.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 24, 2016

I'm not sure why he does not go after the republicans, but I know he does not want Hillary to be President.  My-be for now it's just Hillary that he does not like.

This is just a thought: Should Clinton win, she will put pressure on the Ecuadorian govt to hand him over or at least kick him out of their embassy. She already has a hard on for him going back to when she " jokingly" said, " can't we drone this guy?" Most people say Clinton is hawkish and it goes without saying that she won't stand for this guy rubbing this crap in our face for another four years. I could be wrong, but short of calling in a military strike, his days of pulling this are coming to a close. I can always be proven wrong, but just watch!

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Any of the Hillary supporters here want to say why she never wears an American flag lapel pin anywhere?

Or is it just another of her 'accomplishments'?

You would think someone running for president would wear one or does she plan on getting elected and wearing a UN flag?

bigbear29

I agree 100%,  USA needs to turn up the heat on Cyber war fair in China, Assange and Russia.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 24, 2016

Still think Hillary is looking out for women and children?

She should have to serve the sentence that creep should have gotten, for starters.

For you Hillary supporters you are all for a snake, no, a sub human.

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 24, 2016

 I respectfully disagree- why you ask? Just take one look at the approval rating of both houses with repubs at the helm and now you want to throw in more into the Oval Office resulting in chaos? That DC, is a recipe for disaster imho.

As always: an opinion.

If the Election ends up in the Congress/Senate ...

Here are the options .....

Per the Rules of the Constitution ...

PresidentTrump or Clinton or McMullin  [Top 3] (assuming he takes the 6 Electoral Votes in Utah.  Gary Johnson probably won't get any Electoral Votes anywhere.)

Vice President: Gov. Mike Pence  or  Sen. Tim Kaine [Top 2]

 

Put the winning ticket together however you want ... toward the objective of calming the Nations' concerns  as a whole

What combination of candidates would pacify Anti-Trump, Anti-Clinton, Bernie People, Undecided Voters, and 3rd party leftovers ??

 

What outcome would you prefer [that is legally possible], if the Election ends up in the Congress/Senate ?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 24, 2016

I am going to enjoy the election results regardless of the outcome.  First if Trump wins I will enjoy the

same freedoms that I have had in the past.  If Hilda wins I will enjoy seeing the people who voted for

Hilda go deeper and deeper into poverty while living it up collecting them government handouts. 

The inner cities all crumbling into slums where the water is unfit to drink.  Advanced kids held back in school

so that the intellectually challenged will feel like they are top shelf and of coarse churches turned into social

gatherings without mention of God. 

Open boarders where anyone can just walk across the border, kill, rape and rob to their hearts content without

worry of ever being punished.  The US debt doubling or tripling with taxes so high people can't afford to work.

Obama care is already so bad that the working class can't afford to get sick.  The only jobs most can hope for

is there kids working as drug mules supplementing the food stamps.  The age of consent dropping to 12 like it

is in Mexico and kids walking the streets. 

After all we have been so enriched by the millions of illegals, most of which have no education who will be crossing

our open border.  Maybe they will set up sites where the democrats can cheer and jeer as the last of our American

industry goes south.  The few holdouts in the news media will be taken over by the large corporations so that we

only hear what they deem we need to know.  The internet will be taken away from the people and given over to

these media corporations who will control all content. 

All guns will be taken and the locks on the doors won't mater because it's too easy to kick them open knowing the

people behind them can't defend themselves.  No more police and when crime comes knocking on your door, "who

you gona call" no one will care.  These may seem afar off but one only has to visit one of our inner cities to see it

happening in real time.

Hilda claims to be for children, maybe she is, at least the ones that make it out of the womb in one piece.  Both Hilda

and Obama have been given the chance to prove they care for the less fortunate and minorities but somehow they

missed the mark unless we count the ones from other countries.   We might also include the people who's jobs left

the country but I am sure they would rather have a job then food stamps.

RL

 

 

RL

This is good RL. Very true, all of it.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 24, 2016

This is just a thought: Should Clinton win, she will put pressure on the Ecuadorian govt to hand him over or at least kick him out of their embassy. She already has a hard on for him going back to when she " jokingly" said, " can't we drone this guy?" Most people say Clinton is hawkish and it goes without saying that she won't stand for this guy rubbing this crap in our face for another four years. I could be wrong, but short of calling in a military strike, his days of pulling this are coming to a close. I can always be proven wrong, but just watch!

I'm not sure Hillary can effectively put any pressure on Ecuador;  their President doesn't mind standing up to the U.S.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 24, 2016

I agree 100%,  USA needs to turn up the heat on Cyber war fair in China, Assange and Russia.

Funny how you Democrats are all for whistleblowers...until the whistle blowing is done to you.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Oct 24, 2016

If the Election ends up in the Congress/Senate ...

Here are the options .....

Per the Rules of the Constitution ...

PresidentTrump or Clinton or McMullin  [Top 3] (assuming he takes the 6 Electoral Votes in Utah.  Gary Johnson probably won't get any Electoral Votes anywhere.)

Vice President: Gov. Mike Pence  or  Sen. Tim Kaine [Top 2]

 

Put the winning ticket together however you want ... toward the objective of calming the Nations' concerns  as a whole

What combination of candidates would pacify Anti-Trump, Anti-Clinton, Bernie People, Undecided Voters, and 3rd party leftovers ??

 

What outcome would you prefer [that is legally possible], if the Election ends up in the Congress/Senate ?

l seriously doubt this election  will come to that DC. Someone is going to get past the 270 required. It's going to be a mini landslide by either candidate. The debacle of the 2000 election  will not happen either where the Supreme needed to step in ..As always, l can be wrong but the path to 270 is cast at this point. The electoral College has made up its mind as far as l am concerned. I say just let the confetti fall and start a new day on a new path.The fat lady has sung.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 24, 2016

I agree 100%,  USA needs to turn up the heat on Cyber war fair in China, Assange and Russia.

Assange would never have been tolerated by a Reagan Admin if he pulled this back then by pouncing on the Repubs. Clinton would simply be following in the steps of the Great Communicator. Big Smile  What's those famous words " speak softly but carry a big stick.".. I think it's coming & he knows it.

bigbear29

I think something is coming, the United States has to do something.  What is he or someone else going to do next as far as cyber spying or stealing.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Oct 24, 2016

I'm not sure Hillary can effectively put any pressure on Ecuador;  their President doesn't mind standing up to the U.S.

Well l guess that leaves getting droned on the table then.

bigbear29

Why did Ecuador temporarily block Assange?  Are they trying to send a message to Assange.  Does Ecuador want the extra attention that Assange could bring?   mmmmmmm

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 24, 2016

Any of the Hillary supporters here want to say why she never wears an American flag lapel pin anywhere?

Or is it just another of her 'accomplishments'?

You would think someone running for president would wear one or does she plan on getting elected and wearing a UN flag?

No, she actually wears the sign of the beast but for now has to keep it concealed under her jacket. The jacket

will come off if she's elected then the masses will be in such a state of euphoria, they won't even notice:

666

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 24, 2016

Any of the Hillary supporters here want to say why she never wears an American flag lapel pin anywhere?

Or is it just another of her 'accomplishments'?

You would think someone running for president would wear one or does she plan on getting elected and wearing a UN flag?

I too have noticed the absence of an American flag lapel. Shows how much she care about our country and I'm pretty sure her supporters feel the same way. If they don't have a flag to burn or spit on it would cause them to go insane...sad part is most of them already qualify for the psych ward.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Oct 24, 2016

If the Election ends up in the Congress/Senate ...

Here are the options .....

Per the Rules of the Constitution ...

PresidentTrump or Clinton or McMullin  [Top 3] (assuming he takes the 6 Electoral Votes in Utah.  Gary Johnson probably won't get any Electoral Votes anywhere.)

Vice President: Gov. Mike Pence  or  Sen. Tim Kaine [Top 2]

 

Put the winning ticket together however you want ... toward the objective of calming the Nations' concerns  as a whole

What combination of candidates would pacify Anti-Trump, Anti-Clinton, Bernie People, Undecided Voters, and 3rd party leftovers ??

 

What outcome would you prefer [that is legally possible], if the Election ends up in the Congress/Senate ?

I consider your posts interesting destiny. Most people don't think about this scenario. There are rules in place for a 

reason. Ty for highlighting them.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

The election won't end up in the Senate.  Trump will win by a landslide.  Just like Reagan did against Jimmy Carter.  Mark this post.

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 24, 2016

The election won't end up in the Senate.  Trump will win by a landslide.  Just like Reagan did against Jimmy Carter.  Mark this post.

I would love to see the media and pollsters reaction after Trump wins. We just have to hope that everyone makes an effort to vote.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Here's good news for Trump, that will probably piss off Hillary.

Federal Judge makes GAME CHANGING Voter ID Ruling that have Democrats FURIOUS…

 

District Judge Mark Walker ruled against the Democratic Party’s plan for allowing people showing up, but whose voter’s registration could not be unverified, to vote.

florida-early-voting-01-1022

A federal judge Thursday ruled against a Democratic initiative in Florida that sought to allow individuals to take advantage of early voting even if their registration eligibility is not yet verified.

United States District Judge Mark Walker ruled against this so-called rapid verification process, preventing it from taking place during early voting in Florida, which starts Monday in several key counties.

After the three-hour hearing, Judge Walker sided with Florida Governor Rick Scott’s Secretary of State Ken Detzner against the Democratic party’s request.

During the hearing, Hillsborough County top voting official Craig Latimer’s testimony was cited by Walker. According to the Tampa Bay Times, Latimer testified by phone, saying, “If a voter whose identity can’t be confirmed is allowed to cast a regular ballot, it wouldn’t be legal and it couldn’t be corrected. You’re not going to get that ballot back and that could lead to some real issues.”

Walker also highlighted Maria Matthews‘ testimony, the director of the state’s Division of Elections. Matthews testified that “State workers are being ordered to work ‘mandatory overtime’ of up to 16 hours on weekends to process forms as fast as possible.” Matthews went on to emphasize,”We are devoting all the resources that we have.”

On Tuesday, the Florida Democratic Party had filed a motion to allow anyone to show up at a polling place with an ID and vote, even if they are not on the state’s official voter rolls. This motion came on the heels of an unprecedented number of new voter sign-ups in the state, after the voter registration deadline was extended due to the impact that Hurricane Matthew had on Floridians’ ability to register during the final days of the original voter registration period.

Judge Walker decided that there was “absolutely no basis” to the Democratic Party’s claim that Detzner and election officials were “dragging their feet” when it came to processing new voter registrations.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 24, 2016

The election won't end up in the Senate.  Trump will win by a landslide.  Just like Reagan did against Jimmy Carter.  Mark this post.

There is something to be said about your unwavering support for Mr Trump.. But it's not the voters who decide who becomes President as you well know Wis, it's the electoral College, and the last time l checked his nowhere near getting 270 votes. Now anything can happen between now & Election Day but at present - in not too many words.." It doesn't look pretty right now" But hey, America needs folks like you to keep the energy flowing. Let's just hope that we get one helluva ride out of this election. I have no idea whether people are more excited about Trump or Romney at this stage of the game but it's unavoidable: there has to be a winner & loser. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Everyone in this country know the democrats cheat.  Good for him!  About time we take our country back!

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 24, 2016

Everyone in this country know the democrats cheat.  Good for him!  About time we take our country back!

Was Romney cheated?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 24, 2016

There is something to be said about your unwavering support for Mr Trump.. But it's not the voters who decide who becomes President as you well know Wis, it's the electoral College, and the last time l checked his nowhere near getting 270 votes. Now anything can happen between now & Election Day but at present - in not too many words.." It doesn't look pretty right now" But hey, America needs folks like you to keep the energy flowing. Let's just hope that we get one helluva ride out of this election. I have no idea whether people are more excited about Trump or Romney at this stage of the game but it's unavoidable: there has to be a winner & loser. 

The electoral college follows the voters wishes from their respective districts.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 24, 2016

Was Romney cheated?

Romney was establishment.  He lost the conservative vote.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 24, 2016

Was Romney cheated?

Do you really believe that in th 2012 election not one person in Philadelphia voted for Romney? 

That's what their election board said.

Yeah, I'd say he was cheated. And the clowns that put the Black Panthers in front of the polling places to intimidate anyone not voting for Obama and expected people to believe the count were imbeciles. 

 

Hillary supporters, choke on this;

America will never be defeated from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.

-Abraham Lincoln

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 24, 2016

Do you really believe that in th 2012 election not one person in Philadelphia voted for Romney? 

That's what their election board said.

Yeah, I'd say he was cheated. And the clowns that put the Black Panthers in front of the polling places to intimidate anyone not voting for Obama and expected people to believe the count were imbeciles. 

 

Hillary supporters, choke on this;

America will never be defeated from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.

-Abraham Lincoln

democrat voters...

http://weknowyourdreams.com/images/zombies/zombies-01.jpg

dr65's avatardr65

lol, I was ready to liken Hillary to Negan. I thought that was going a bit far, she doesn't have a bat.

But she is one.

That'll do.

bigbear29

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! 

This kind of happened, and it’s not actually mathematically impossible. First, the 59 refers to the City of Philadelphia, not the metropolitan area or region. An absolutely crucial fact: The 59 zones that saw no votes for Romney were not districts, but divisions. There are nearly 1,700 divisions in Philadelphia. Each of the city’s 66 wards claims between 10 and 50 of them.

 

Key:  59 divisions out of 1700 divisions in Philadelphia did not vote for Romney.

 

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

 

Why would you vote for romney?

His corporation was one of the companies that go into other companies and show/teach them how to send their JOBS overseas to make more money.  Once voters found this out and other stuff, his numbers started to drop.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Viewers will finally see the face of the Clinton insider who’s finally speaking out to tell voters the truth about the former First Lady..... Hillary's "Mr. Fixit On Fox tonight...

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/politics/hillary-clinton-lesbian-trysts-scandals-wikileaks-mr-fix-it-articles/

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 24, 2016

Do you really believe that in th 2012 election not one person in Philadelphia voted for Romney? 

That's what their election board said.

Yeah, I'd say he was cheated. And the clowns that put the Black Panthers in front of the polling places to intimidate anyone not voting for Obama and expected people to believe the count were imbeciles. 

 

Hillary supporters, choke on this;

America will never be defeated from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.

-Abraham Lincoln

So Coin Toss, are you saying Romney was cheated out of votes or out of the Presidency? As you know, there is a difference.Are you saying Romney beat Obama fair & square but was robbed?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 24, 2016

democrat voters...

http://weknowyourdreams.com/images/zombies/zombies-01.jpg

l swear they look like the Trump Hit Squad that threw that black guy & others out that disagreed with Trump at his rallies. That's s fierce bunch. Trump even said that he would pay their bail if arrested. Those Trump  supporters can take on John Wick.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Oct 24, 2016

If the Election ends up in the Congress/Senate ....

Best Case Scenario ... to calm the Nation ...

 

U.S. President: Evan McMullin

U.S. Vice President: Gov. Mike Pence

                                  Yes Nod     

This is a winning ticket that could work for the Nation.

The first question, with McMullin winning Utah is it possible for Trump to keep Clinton from getting to 270? This unlikely scenario includes Trump winning Ohio, Florida, Nevada and Colorado but currently Clinton is leading in all four. But if that were to happen Clinton(264) and Trump(268) will both be slightly under 270.

The problem with your scenario is the assumption the House will vote for someone that only received 0.3% of the popular vote. Do you really think the House will vote to disenfranchise over 99% of the electorate knowing they all will be up for re-election in 2 years?

Question 2, in your scenario, the Senate votes for VP so that depends on which party controls the Senate. It's obvious if the Republicans keep control the Senate and the House votes for Trump, Pence wins the VP. If the Dems gain control, they'll probably vote for Kaine, but since we're talking about unlikely scenarios, why not vote for McMullin's VP Mindy Finn?

Interesting to say the least.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 24, 2016

Every repub you know is voting for Trump? You must have a small circle of people you know, no disrespect intended. 

Where I live it's solid republican, middle of the Bible belt etc... I did however see one Hilda sign in a yard a few weeks back

but I don't know the people who live there.  I posted earlier in this topic where the wife asked people in her department at

work who they were voting for.  It was 25 of 27 for Trump.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 24, 2016

l swear they look like the Trump Hit Squad that threw that black guy & others out that disagreed with Trump at his rallies. That's s fierce bunch. Trump even said that he would pay their bail if arrested. Those Trump  supporters can take on John Wick.

The black guy you mention along with others were agitators.  Your comment could be considered racist using the Black

guy as the primary person.

RL

P.S. we all know the agitators were paid to agitate.   I remember hearing a story from the civil war where the slaves

were making bullets for the confederate army.  I see the same thing going on today.  Many Blacks claim Lincoln as their

president.  I often wonder if they know he was a republican fighting against the system.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 24, 2016

l swear they look like the Trump Hit Squad that threw that black guy & others out that disagreed with Trump at his rallies. That's s fierce bunch. Trump even said that he would pay their bail if arrested. Those Trump  supporters can take on John Wick.

You mean the agitators that were hired by Hillary, that were thrown out? Good.....

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Hilda has been punching the buttons that she knows will enrage Blacks for many years now.  She knows which things, true or not

that will incite anger and hatred.   She is the true racist running in this election.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Things spoken in anger are often branded as racist when they are nothing more than angry words.

This is a personal quote. 

"True racism is calculated and often masked to redirect by confusion of facts."

RL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 24, 2016

Do you really believe that in th 2012 election not one person in Philadelphia voted for Romney? 

That's what their election board said.

Yeah, I'd say he was cheated. And the clowns that put the Black Panthers in front of the polling places to intimidate anyone not voting for Obama and expected people to believe the count were imbeciles. 

 

Hillary supporters, choke on this;

America will never be defeated from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.

-Abraham Lincoln

"In 59 voting districts in the Philadelphia region, Obama received 100% of the votes, with not even a single vote recorded for Romney."

This is a true indisputable fact. But considering there are 1700 voting districts in the Philadelphia region, that's only 3.5%. And with some simple research anybody can find hundreds of districts/precincts across the country with 100% Democrat or Republican registration. Are there actually people that don't understand when 100% of the voters in a precincts are registered in one party or the other, it's highly likely 100% will vote party lines for President?

"Do you really believe that in th 2012 election not one person in Philadelphia voted for Romney?"

The actual vote count shows Romney got about 15% of the vote which should be no surprise considering 80% of the voters are Registered Democrats.

"Yeah, I'd say he was cheated"

Of course you'll say it because you never do any research and have no problem repeating nonsense.

"And the clowns that put the Black Panthers in front of the polling places"

ROFL

That Fox and Friends story was debunked four years ago. Fox News's Gretchen Carlson introduced video of the man standing outside the polling place and said "This is a member of the Black Panthers standing guard outside a polling place in Philadelphia." The truth was it was a homeless man looking for a handout.

Fox News made an honest mistake probably because there were Black Panthers patrolling voting places in 2008, but they admitted they made a mistake in 2012, FOUR YEARS AGO.

"and expected people to believe the count were imbeciles."

Seriously, when nobody is listening, what do call the people that believe the tall tails you spin?

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 24, 2016

You mean the agitators that were hired by Hillary, that were thrown out? Good.....

Here is video PROOF showing how Hillary supporters stage violent protests at Trump rallies. Very interesting.

https://youtu.be/rh81tPvsjGg

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 24, 2016

Here is video PROOF showing how Hillary supporters stage violent protests at Trump rallies. Very interesting.

https://youtu.be/rh81tPvsjGg

Greenbay is always talking about the number of people attending Trump rallies so I'm betting if those guys are planning on trying something, there is lots of drinking involved. How does a bunch of drunks bragging about creating violence at Trump rallies prove they do it?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Trump in Tampa FL.

RL

 

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 24, 2016

Greenbay is always talking about the number of people attending Trump rallies so I'm betting if those guys are planning on trying something, there is lots of drinking involved. How does a bunch of drunks bragging about creating violence at Trump rallies prove they do it?

http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/trump-rally-disrupter-was-once-on-clinton-campaigns-payroll/

 

Foval, who used to work for the George Soros-funded People for the American Way, according to The Washington Times, is quoted at length in the video.

Robert Creamer, founder of Democracy Advocates, also quit the campaign Tuesday for his role in the disruptions.

Another activist, Zulema Rodriguez, told O’Keefe’s investigators, “I just had a call today with the campaign and the DNC. Every day at 1 o’clock.”

She took credit for being involved with a pair of anti-Trump events in March: the Chicago rally and another in Arizona in which anti-Trump protesters blocked a highway.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 24, 2016

Trump in Tampa FL.

RL

 

WOW!!!

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 24, 2016

Greenbay is always talking about the number of people attending Trump rallies so I'm betting if those guys are planning on trying something, there is lots of drinking involved. How does a bunch of drunks bragging about creating violence at Trump rallies prove they do it?

So how does one guy in a bar at the very end of the video become a bunch of bragging drunks? You make no sense.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Here's what a Hillary rally looks like.  Big difference. Tell me how polls say she is winning?

At Hillary Clinton’s Rally in Cleveland, Something STRANGE Was Spotted – BREAKING NEWS

Kosar
Featured Contributor

hillary rally

At a recent rally in Cleveland, Ohio, we learned exactly what most people already know: No one really is enthusiastic about Hillary Clinton.

People are either for or against Republican presidential nominee Donald J. Trump. Trump is a “change agent,” while Clinton represents the absolute worst of Washington, D.C.

Check out this video from a recent rally (below) which leaked on social media. While fiming a commerical for Hillary, it’s clear that her supporters really don’t care to be there, and have to be told to be more cheerful.

Watch (below) as these hilarious cheerleaders have to tell Hillary’s supporters to look like they care about their candidate:



Read more:  http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/hillary-rally-cleveland-something-strange-spotted-breaking-news/#ixzz4O41uw2ps

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 24, 2016

Where I live it's solid republican, middle of the Bible belt etc... I did however see one Hilda sign in a yard a few weeks back

but I don't know the people who live there.  I posted earlier in this topic where the wife asked people in her department at

work who they were voting for.  It was 25 of 27 for Trump.

RL

No disrespect to anyone- but when did Trump " win over" the Bible belt folk & what are they saying about all these accusations against Trump? When that happened on Bill's watch- they were ready to tar & feather the poor guy. What's Trump's secret?

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 24, 2016

No disrespect to anyone- but when did Trump " win over" the Bible belt folk & what are they saying about all these accusations against Trump? When that happened on Bill's watch- they were ready to tar & feather the poor guy. What's Trump's secret?

Clinton poor guy? WTH! He was proven to have committed the assaults, whereas the allegations against Trump are are just that, someone saying something with no proof.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 24, 2016

The black guy you mention along with others were agitators.  Your comment could be considered racist using the Black

guy as the primary person.

RL

P.S. we all know the agitators were paid to agitate.   I remember hearing a story from the civil war where the slaves

were making bullets for the confederate army.  I see the same thing going on today.  Many Blacks claim Lincoln as their

president.  I often wonder if they know he was a republican fighting against the system.

considered racist using the Black guy as the primary person." .. Nonsense. 

 Wednesday, March 9, 2016. Fayetteville- NC. * Trump Rally.  ( Think Progress News Report.)

The now-common violent outbreaks at Donald Trump rallies escalated further at an event in Fayetteville, North Carolina on Wednesday. Footage that surfaced Thursday morning showed a black man getting punched in the face by a white rally attendee and then wrestled to the ground by police officers.

The protesters were being led out of the rally by men who were wearing sheriff’s uniforms when Rakeem Jones flipped his middle fingers to the crowd. In the video, he’s punched in the face by a white man in a cowboy hat. The crowd cheers, and Jones is pushed to the ground by the officers and handcuffed.

Notice: The paper used the word Black Man- l see, l report.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 24, 2016

Clinton poor guy? WTH! He was proven to have committed the assaults, whereas the allegations against Trump are are just that, someone saying something with no proof.

Which assaults? Basically, Jones alleged that Bill Clinton had a "distinguishing mark" on his ***** that both doctors and Monica Lewinsky said he did not have. That casts doubt on whether the incident happened as she alleged it did. All the other women came forth ONLY after he decided to run for Office. Trump is in the same boat, the only thing is, he bragged about it, that's why he is where he is.

" Loose Lips, sink Ships"

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 24, 2016

Trump in Tampa FL.

RL

 

This is great!  I notice most of the pictures for Hill rallies are closeup pictures, never anything like this!  And the demonrats try to get us believe she is going to win?

MY VOTE IS TRUMP, SAVE AMERICA

noise-gate

You can always Frame the Trump Rallies to remind yourself after the election of what it could have been. Its only a suggestion, especially if seeing the crowds gives you the chills. 

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 25, 2016

This is great!  I notice most of the pictures for Hill rallies are closeup pictures, never anything like this!  And the demonrats try to get us believe she is going to win?

MY VOTE IS TRUMP, SAVE AMERICA

That's why they (DNC/Clinton campaign) buggered the "news" polls....to "hive mind" the people to vote for who was "perceived " to be the clear winner, hoping they'd go with the herd and not research and decide for themselves...or not vote at all.....

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 24, 2016

http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/trump-rally-disrupter-was-once-on-clinton-campaigns-payroll/

 

Foval, who used to work for the George Soros-funded People for the American Way, according to The Washington Times, is quoted at length in the video.

Robert Creamer, founder of Democracy Advocates, also quit the campaign Tuesday for his role in the disruptions.

Another activist, Zulema Rodriguez, told O’Keefe’s investigators, “I just had a call today with the campaign and the DNC. Every day at 1 o’clock.”

She took credit for being involved with a pair of anti-Trump events in March: the Chicago rally and another in Arizona in which anti-Trump protesters blocked a highway.

"Foval, who used to work for the George Soros-funded People for the American Way, according to The Washington Times, is quoted at length in the video."

We could make a video quoting Billy Bush talking at length about things Trump said that were not recorded and have the same effect.

But that's not even close to the point I was making. Do you really think those guys are going to disrupt 10,000 hardcore supporters at a Trump rally and still get out of the hospital in time to vote?

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 25, 2016

"Foval, who used to work for the George Soros-funded People for the American Way, according to The Washington Times, is quoted at length in the video."

We could make a video quoting Billy Bush talking at length about things Trump said that were not recorded and have the same effect.

But that's not even close to the point I was making. Do you really think those guys are going to disrupt 10,000 hardcore supporters at a Trump rally and still get out of the hospital in time to vote?

Hope not....they're too stupid to vote.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

There once was a candidate named Clinton, Who deserves to retire at San Quentin. For lies and deceit, A beatdown complete, Orange pantsuits look good at the prison.

 

LOL...at a response to article on Clinton corruption.

bigbear29

Trump Cites Police, Military, ICE Endorsements That Didn't Happen:

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump frequently touts his support among law enforcement and military figures.

On Monday, he told News4Jax that the United States military "conceptually" endorsed him and that "virtually every police department" in the country backed his bid for the presidency. During last week's third debate, Trump said his hardline stance on immigration and pledge to build a border wall had earned him an endorsement from Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

But none of that is true.

 

TRUMP is a total LIAR!!!!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 25, 2016

Trump Cites Police, Military, ICE Endorsements That Didn't Happen:

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump frequently touts his support among law enforcement and military figures.

On Monday, he told News4Jax that the United States military "conceptually" endorsed him and that "virtually every police department" in the country backed his bid for the presidency. During last week's third debate, Trump said his hardline stance on immigration and pledge to build a border wall had earned him an endorsement from Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

But none of that is true.

 

TRUMP is a total LIAR!!!!

This election is about half truths and innuendos and it looks the winner might be the candidate the voters dislike the least. I've heard people say after listening to a Trump surrogate will make them vote for Clinton and vice versa. And both parties are insulting voter intelligence.

There is lots of confusion about polling data, but it's really simple and similar to PB's QP ratio "if about 70% to 80% of ticket sales are QPs, about 70% to 80% of the winning tickets should be QPs". If about 80% of Utah voters are registered Republicans than a Republican candidate should get about 80% of the vote. If about 80% of Philadelphia voters are registered Democrat than a Democrat candidate should get about 80% of the vote. A solid Red state means there are more registered Republicans in that state, solid Blue means more Democrats. Lean Red or Blue means slightly more and toss up means about equal.

bigbear29

This election extremely sucks, it's probably the worst election on record.  But I still think the safer candidate would be Hillary.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Got this in an email today, made me think of a few of the posters in this thread;

   Vernon Howard's
                         SECRETS OF LIFE (R)

**********************************************************************

"Much depends upon whether we habitually criticize others or
habitually examine ourselves."

                              Cosmic Command, # 551

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 25, 2016

This election extremely sucks, it's probably the worst election on record.  But I still think the safer candidate would be Hillary.

People thrive on Reality TV.

bigbear29

Trump stated that most of his employees are complaining about Obama care.  How is that?  When his golf courses and hotels don't carry Obamacare.  Trump is just saying what he thinks people want to hear.

 

Trump is a LIAR also!

bigbear29

Trump: 'My employees are having a tremendous problem with Obamacare':

Donald Trump told a Florida crowd Tuesday his employees were having issues with Obamacare, which is being rocked by skyrocketing premiums.

"I can say that all of my employees are having a tremendous problem with Obamacare," Trump said. "What they're going through with their health care is horrible because of Obamacare, so we'll repeal it and replace it."
The Republican presidential nominee's comments come one day after a government report revealed premiums are set to rise an average of 22% for the benchmark silver place in 2017. The plan will cost an average of $296 a month next year.
His comments sparked questions about whether Trump's employees receive insurance through Obamacare. When asked by a member of the media whether his employees are on Obamacare, Trump replied, "Some of them, most of them, no."
 Clarifying Trump's remarks, the general manager of Trump's property in Doral, David Feder, said,"99% of our employees are insured through our hotel."
Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Oct 25, 2016

People thrive on Reality TV.

In June I watched the Cleveland Cavs win a Championship that no Cleveland team has won since 1964 and tonight the Cleveland Indians will begin trying to win the World Series. Now that's the type of TV I want to watch.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 25, 2016

Trump stated that most of his employees are complaining about Obama care.  How is that?  When his golf courses and hotels don't carry Obamacare.  Trump is just saying what he thinks people want to hear.

 

Trump is a LIAR also!

Does anybody really know how Obamacare works or how many people it really effects?

I've had the same family health care long before the Affordable Care Act and the only change will be when I'm old enough to draw Medicare. I'm trying to figure out if only 4% of Americans are now on Obamacare, why are raises in those premiums such a huge issue to the other 96%?

bigbear29

I really could not explain Obamacare, because I have my corporation healthcare for many years now.  I'm sure it helps a lot of people that could not afford healthcare.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

If you're for Hillary you're for this whether you know it or not;

If Hillary wins we'll have chosen our leaders for the rest of our lives. 

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/25/if-hillary-wins-ll-have-chosen-our-leaders-for-rest-our-lives.html
www.foxnews.com
Now only the election remains. In the weeks that remain, we’ll hear more from WikiLeaks, in spite of U.S. government pressure to shut it down in order to protect Hillary.
LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

This election boils down the Supreme Court picks.  The Bush family should declare themselves as liberals for not supporting Trump.  If Hillary is elected, the Constitution as we know it will cease to exist.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 25, 2016

I really could not explain Obamacare, because I have my corporation healthcare for many years now.  I'm sure it helps a lot of people that could not afford healthcare.

I read where about 4% of Americans have Obamacare and maybe if one them is an LP member, they might explain how it works. Those over 65 collect around $1500 will pay around $125 a month for Medicare and I believe that only covers 80% medical.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 25, 2016

This election boils down the Supreme Court picks.  The Bush family should declare themselves as liberals for not supporting Trump.  If Hillary is elected, the Constitution as we know it will cease to exist.

How exactly can the President or the Supreme Court change the Constitution?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 25, 2016

How exactly can the President or the Supreme Court change the Constitution?

Seriously Stack?  You can't be that naive can you?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 25, 2016

Seriously Stack?  You can't be that naive can you?

He is.

Presidents like to issue "Executive Orders".

Don't like guns? Try a couple executive orders.

Of course, there will be liberal judges to appoint to the Supreme Court.

Hillbag gets in, things ain't getting better if you like freedom. No matter what the naysayers believe.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Remember the second debate when Hillary was asked about Supreme Court appointees?  She didn't mention the Constitution once.  That should disqualify her on the spot.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 25, 2016

He is.

Presidents like to issue "Executive Orders".

Don't like guns? Try a couple executive orders.

Of course, there will be liberal judges to appoint to the Supreme Court.

Hillbag gets in, things ain't getting better if you like freedom. No matter what the naysayers believe.

"Presidents like to issue "Executive Orders"."

Yep, it's all explained in Article II. What's your point?

"Don't like guns? Try a couple executive orders."'

Are you that uneducated that you believe an executive order can change the Constitution?

"Of course, there will be liberal judges to appoint to the Supreme Court."

Which part of a history teacher or professor teaching the Constitution is one of the most liberal documents ever written to you sleep through?

Ever hear of the Preamble?

Oh, and instead of babbling on about something you're obviously ignorant of, read the Constitution.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 25, 2016

Seriously Stack?  You can't be that naive can you?

Why don't you just say "you don't know" and move on?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 25, 2016

Trump stated that most of his employees are complaining about Obama care.  How is that?  When his golf courses and hotels don't carry Obamacare.  Trump is just saying what he thinks people want to hear.

 

Trump is a LIAR also!

double b

You really should step out of your box.  I would say that the hotel and golf course workers make up a very small

percentage of the people he employs.  How many people do you think it takes to run a golf course anyway?  While

I am sure there are quite a few who work cleaning rooms and such,  they don't make up the 10s of thousands

of employees.   Knowing Trump he might even contract some of that work out to other companies.   Let me ask you

a personal question.  How much do you pay for obama care and what is your deductible?   We paid far  less before

obama care with better coverage and a much smaller deductible.    Obama care is taxing the working class to pay for

those who won't or don't work.   Maybe Obama thinks of himself as robin hood.  Steal from those who work and give

it to those who don't.   I thought welfare was suppose to take care of that.   Stupid me, but how much can one expect

from a idiot anyway. 

RL

The election is not that different from any other election except for one thing.  The Hilda clan of major networks are

behind all the $hit that people see.  Most of it should never even been aired on TV.   I can just imagine if George

Washington was running today.   Want to blame someone for the election we are stuck with, blame Hilda and her

clan.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 25, 2016

Why don't you just say "you don't know" and move on?

Whats the purpose of the Supreme Court?   Come on genius.  Answer that question and you will answer mine.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 25, 2016

I really could not explain Obamacare, because I have my corporation healthcare for many years now.  I'm sure it helps a lot of people that could not afford healthcare.

Do janitors qualify for corporation health care?   So in other words you don't pay a dime.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Tim Kaine rally.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/wow-tim-kaine-holds-rally-30-people-show/

 

Trump CO. rally, I see he's still having trouble getting women's vote, NOT.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I guess that since after 30 years in politics she does not have anything to run on so all that's left is to trash Trump.

RL

bigbear29

Hey MORON!  I don't have Obamacare,  MORON!

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 25, 2016

double b

You really should step out of your box.  I would say that the hotel and golf course workers make up a very small

percentage of the people he employs.  How many people do you think it takes to run a golf course anyway?  While

I am sure there are quite a few who work cleaning rooms and such,  they don't make up the 10s of thousands

of employees.   Knowing Trump he might even contract some of that work out to other companies.   Let me ask you

a personal question.  How much do you pay for obama care and what is your deductible?   We paid far  less before

obama care with better coverage and a much smaller deductible.    Obama care is taxing the working class to pay for

those who won't or don't work.   Maybe Obama thinks of himself as robin hood.  Steal from those who work and give

it to those who don't.   I thought welfare was suppose to take care of that.   Stupid me, but how much can one expect

from a idiot anyway. 

RL

The election is not that different from any other election except for one thing.  The Hilda clan of major networks are

behind all the $hit that people see.  Most of it should never even been aired on TV.   I can just imagine if George

Washington was running today.   Want to blame someone for the election we are stuck with, blame Hilda and her

clan.

I saw on the news last night that the price for obamacare is going up 25% in January. So much for cheap, affordable insurance.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

So like what you say about Trump your not supporting it.   I think you should tell us the truth about your corporate job, that you

don't really have one.

RL

bigbear29

Moron, I still have to pay, the more people that you have in a corporate group pay the less you have to pay.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I think even Hilda would say Obama care stinks but she can't say anything about Obama or she risk loosing the African American vote.

Billy on the other hand said it was crazy and can't work.  At least one Clinton can tell the truth ever now and then.

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 25, 2016

I saw on the news last night that the price for obamacare is going up 25% in January. So much for cheap, affordable insurance.

Huma Abedin is Hillary's #1 aide. But who is she?  EVERY American needs to see this.

https://youtu.be/SXG_h765ZBA

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

How much is your deductible?   You should be able to at least tell us that.

RL

bigbear29

You are just the biggest dummy!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I take it you don't know your deductible because you don't have a job.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 25, 2016

Huma Abedin is Hillary's #1 aide. But who is she?  EVERY American needs to see this.

https://youtu.be/SXG_h765ZBA

This is just one of many such truths about Hilda and her clan.

RL

bigbear29

Why!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 25, 2016

Hey MORON!  I don't have Obamacare,  MORON!

Hey everyone, I ve been elevated to double Moron status.  Do I win a prize, gee I hope I get to vote twice.

Once for Trump and the other one, well I am still undecided.   

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Why what?

RL

bigbear29

I will copy/paste this for the dummy! 

Clarifying Trump's remarks, the general manager of Trump's property in Doral, David Feder, said,"99% of our employees are insured through our hotel."

Do you get it moron!

bigbear29

How much is your deductible?   You should be able to at least tell us that.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

So the general property manager in Doral represents 99% of all Trumps employees?  Is that what your saying?

Looks to me that he is taking care of his people all around.  Maybe he thinks that he will be forced to use obama

care in the future.  Either way you statements seem to be without much fore thought.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 25, 2016

How much is your deductible?   You should be able to at least tell us that.

So I can see how well the rich people live compared to the rest of us. 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 25, 2016

How much is your deductible?   You should be able to at least tell us that.

Around 15% of our taxable income.  One short stay at a hospital would cost us more than we are able to save in the

entire year.   One trip to a emergency room can cost over $5K and  that does not even include a hospital stay.  I am a

disabled veteran so provided I could get a appointment before I died in a emergency, at least most of my medical would

be paid.  I think the Mexicans that are here illegally get better medical than I do through the VA . 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

So in other words, unless our medical bills are over 10K then obama care does nothing but take.  Stick that up

your tiny little mind and the rates are set to go up another 25%.   I truly think you don't have a job and your only

income comes in the form of government handouts.   What bothers me most that you attack the working class when

you contribute nothing.   Maybe that's why your so demanding when it comes to Trumps taxes, your afraid that your

income will be cut from the budget.

RL

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 25, 2016

Around 15% of our taxable income.  One short stay at a hospital would cost us more than we are able to save in the

entire year.   One trip to a emergency room can cost over $5K and  that does not even include a hospital stay.  I am a

disabled veteran so provided I could get a appointment before I died in a emergency, at least most of my medical would

be paid.  I think the Mexicans that are here illegally get better medical than I do through the VA . 

RL

They do RL.

I saw a comparison chart somewhere maybe you or Coin or GreenBay had a link where I saw it..

but it went like this..

3 patients...3 outcomes.

1 - goes in to see a doctor, needs surgery, gets treated, bill $2,500

2 - goes to ER, needs surgery, gets appointment the following week, gets treated, no charge, no wait,

follow ups free

3 - goes in to doctor, needs surgery, waits 6 months, bill $5,000 

specifics are off but you get the idea..the patients, wait times, scenarios 

 

1 - is a dog

2 - is an illegal

3 - is a veteran

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 25, 2016

Hey everyone, I ve been elevated to double Moron status.  Do I win a prize, gee I hope I get to vote twice.

Once for Trump and the other one, well I am still undecided.   

RL

lol!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I must of missed that post but sad to say it's that way for many veterans.  Many have died waiting for the VA

to hold up their part of the deal.  IMHO there is no way to have a government medical program here in the US. 

In other countries where they have universal health care their entire system is built around it.  Here in the US

everything is privatised and doctors, hospitals, lawyers, scum sucking politicians, bottom of the bucket worm

eating pharmaceutical companies all are sticking it too us.  I am not that old but I remember when one of my

brothers broke his arm and the doctor visit with cast was less than 50 bucks.  I guess the cost of plaster has

gone through th roof.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Just read a report where voting machines in TX are switching votes from Trump to Hilda.  If you live in one

of the states that use Soros machines ask for a paper ballot.  If they tell you "No" then report them because

the law states that you have a right to a paper ballot.  Crooked dog-ass licking $hit eating criminals should

be hung in public like the old days,  Pack a lunch ma, were going to see another one get his/her just reward.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Where there is no rule of law, the lawless rule.

RL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 25, 2016

Tim Kaine rally.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/wow-tim-kaine-holds-rally-30-people-show/

 

Trump CO. rally, I see he's still having trouble getting women's vote, NOT.

Just curious RL- why are there so many " clenched fist" folk at the Trump Rallies? What's getting them all riled up and what exact message are they trying to send to fellow supporters and onlookers? I honestly don't think l have seen any clenched fists at Obama or Clinton rallies, although l could be wrong. So what's your answer?

dr65's avatardr65

Rally after rally after rally...TONS of people, you don't see this on CNN..

https://youtu.be/NigGEwgklpU

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 25, 2016

Whats the purpose of the Supreme Court?   Come on genius.  Answer that question and you will answer mine.

You really don't know the function of the Supreme Court, do ya? ROFL

Excuse me for laughing but you said "This election boils down the Supreme Court picks." some nonsense about the Bush family and "If Hillary is elected, the Constitution as we know it will cease to exist." And then I asked "How exactly can the President or the Supreme Court change the Constitution?"

In your next post you said "Seriously Stack?  You can't be that naive can you?" Kids in the eighth grade are taught the function of the U.S. Constitution in history and civics classes. Just admit you didn't know the President or the Supreme Court cannot change the Constitution and we can more on to more important things like Trump's hair.

I'll make it simple, watch this.

sully16's avatarsully16

Obamacare, going up double digits.

Many of these people get subsidies, that means tax payers foot the bill.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 25, 2016

Rally after rally after rally...TONS of people, you don't see this on CNN..

https://youtu.be/NigGEwgklpU

PartyParty

Make America Great Again! US Flag

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I guess you never heard of constitutional amendments or just getting the Supreme Court to rule on what these documents

actually say.  Some bewildered idiots think the 2nd amendments right to bear arms does not include personal gun rights.  I

know, it's kind of stupid that a working brain would interpret it that way but that's why the election is more about the Supreme

Court than anything else.  Hilda is on record that she wants all our guns, not just the big ones but all of them.  I know your

kind of slow so maybe this will help you understand.   Do you trust lying crooked Hilda to hold to the constitution in her evil

plan.  GW said it was just a piece of paper and Hilda thinks even less of it because it stands in her way.  I still say that anyone

who does not like it should move to another country where it's not the rule of law. I swore a oath to defend the Constitution

against all enemies both foreign and domestic and I plan to keep that oath. 

RL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 25, 2016

He is.

Presidents like to issue "Executive Orders".

Don't like guns? Try a couple executive orders.

Of course, there will be liberal judges to appoint to the Supreme Court.

Hillbag gets in, things ain't getting better if you like freedom. No matter what the naysayers believe.

"Presidents like to issue "Executive Orders"."

It's more like some Presidents issue more Executive Orders than others. Obama issued less orders than any two term President since Grant. And on average, less than any one term President since Cleveland.

"Don't like guns? Try a couple executive orders."

You're obviously not aware of the fact, Obama never issue even 1 executive order on guns. The 23 orders he signed in 2013 mostly applied to background checks and directions to Federal agencies. Kentucky is one of the few states with "open carry" and several states have very strict controls so there is no real effort to take our guns.

"Of course, there will be liberal judges to appoint to the Supreme Court."

Justices and judges are not appointed by Executive Order. Article II, section 2:

He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments.

My suggestion to you is if want a conservative Court, next time nominate a Presidential candidate that is conservative and can actually win the election.

*Indians 3 - Cubs 0, bottom of the 8.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 25, 2016

I guess you never heard of constitutional amendments or just getting the Supreme Court to rule on what these documents

actually say.  Some bewildered idiots think the 2nd amendments right to bear arms does not include personal gun rights.  I

know, it's kind of stupid that a working brain would interpret it that way but that's why the election is more about the Supreme

Court than anything else.  Hilda is on record that she wants all our guns, not just the big ones but all of them.  I know your

kind of slow so maybe this will help you understand.   Do you trust lying crooked Hilda to hold to the constitution in her evil

plan.  GW said it was just a piece of paper and Hilda thinks even less of it because it stands in her way.  I still say that anyone

who does not like it should move to another country where it's not the rule of law. I swore a oath to defend the Constitution

against all enemies both foreign and domestic and I plan to keep that oath. 

RL

"Some bewildered idiots think the 2nd amendments right to bear arms does not include personal gun rights."

My suggestion to you is stop listening to "bewildered idiots".

"Hilda is on record that she wants all our guns, not just the big ones but all of them."

Let me guess, one of your "bewildered idiots" friends told you that, but you can't find a record with Clinton saying that. How are going to convince people to vote against Clinton with nothing but the word of "bewildered idiots"?

"I swore a oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic and I plan to keep that oath."

I thought you said you are a "disabled veteran"?

Thanks for volunteering, but I'll sleep better knowing our real military is defending us.

 

"

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 25, 2016

Just curious RL- why are there so many " clenched fist" folk at the Trump Rallies? What's getting them all riled up and what exact message are they trying to send to fellow supporters and onlookers? I honestly don't think l have seen any clenched fists at Obama or Clinton rallies, although l could be wrong. So what's your answer?

No, all the fist quenching demo's are at Trump rallies trying to disrupt his speeches.  I know the the demons  demo's

get so upset when he talks, yells about all Hilda's evil plans like taking all our guns and lying to congress or deleting

thirty thousand emails etc... so can you really blame them?   Obama care is a massive failure and Bill agrees so I don't

know what the problem is there.  It's a matter of record that she lied to congress and should be punished for it.  The

emails let us all know what she really thinks and I think she was holding back when she called us deplorable.   In her

mind I think it was far worse then Trumps locker room babble.  We see others go to jail for far less and she is without

fear except when she sees a Trump rally.  People are mad as hell that  Hilda seems to be above the law and that the

government has forgotten that it's main job is that of a public servant.   The media is not helping as they are more than

wiling to disrupt and divide the people in the US using tactics a snake would not touch.  The only thing keeping Trump

from running th board is ignorance or maybe just plain hatred for western civilization.  The plan for it is akin to the

stuff we see in our schools where they want to hold back the smart kids so that the others won't get their feelings hurt.

We need to praise the doers and shakers because it's because of them we have the life styles we so much enjoy.  It's

sad that most don't have or never took the time to better themselves but with most advances we all benefit.   There 

are a number of countries that hate us and some have very good reason but we have our government to thank for

that.  How many times can we screw countries like we did Haiti and expect then to love us.  Love has nothing to do

with Hilda's plans but power and control.  The US is facing something it has never faced before.  At this time what we

do, and by do I mean who we vote for will determine if the US is to continue to be sovereign nation of we the people

or a launch pad to bring about it's destruction.  Hilda is not the beast nor is Obama, O they hate Christians enough but

both together would not make a pimple on "The Anti-Christ's ass."   According to the bible the anti-christ is going to

kick the hell out of the Muslim nations and plunder them just before he comes to power.  The left behind crap is just that,

crap.  Sorry people but it's total fiction.  I say that because too many think Hilda might be the anti-christ.  First he is a

man and second he is a man of war.   I don't think Obama or Hilda meets the requirements but I have not seen Hilda

naked, God forbid.  Both could be precursors to the anti-christ because they both seem hell bent on building up the 

Muslim religion.  After all the anti-christ has to have someone to make war against because it's his victory over them

that is used to gain control.  Playing both sides like a fiddle.   I may not live to get to see it come down but it's all falling

into place to those who know what the word of God say about it.   Anyway, hope I answered your question even though

I got a little off topic.

RL

Stack47

While it's true Obamacare coverage is going up on average 22% throughout the country, it's dropping 2% in Ohio thanks to Governor Kasich. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he run for the Republican Party nomination?

 

Indians 6 - Cubs 0, final Party

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

My suggestion to you is stop listening to "bewildered idiots".

I did stop listing, I blocked all the major news networks.

Let me guess, one of your "bewildered idiots" friends told you that, but you can't find a record with Clinton saying that. How are going to convince people to vote against Clinton with nothing but the word of "bewildered idiots"?

It's in the emails she thought she had deleted forever.

I thought you said you are a "disabled veteran"?

My oath was never withdrawn.

If you were military you should have know this. 

I am a disabled vet, not dead.

 

My youngest son has served for almost 10 years now so with a little math you should be able to figure which wars.

My daughter is a military doctor and served in Iraq.  When she was called up for a second time she was pregnant

with her first child and as such did not go.  She now works in a military setting tending to our soldiers coming

back from the battlefield. 

 

I served, my brother served, kids served, uncles served, one of my kids was a policeman, my cousin is a chief of police

One of my best friends was a  representative and could of ran again unchallenged but chose not to.  You say you served

but I question if that's true.  Your questioning my service is OK but if you think any of this is made up your dead wrong. 

RL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 25, 2016

No, all the fist quenching demo's are at Trump rallies trying to disrupt his speeches.  I know the the demons  demo's

get so upset when he talks, yells about all Hilda's evil plans like taking all our guns and lying to congress or deleting

thirty thousand emails etc... so can you really blame them?   Obama care is a massive failure and Bill agrees so I don't

know what the problem is there.  It's a matter of record that she lied to congress and should be punished for it.  The

emails let us all know what she really thinks and I think she was holding back when she called us deplorable.   In her

mind I think it was far worse then Trumps locker room babble.  We see others go to jail for far less and she is without

fear except when she sees a Trump rally.  People are mad as hell that  Hilda seems to be above the law and that the

government has forgotten that it's main job is that of a public servant.   The media is not helping as they are more than

wiling to disrupt and divide the people in the US using tactics a snake would not touch.  The only thing keeping Trump

from running th board is ignorance or maybe just plain hatred for western civilization.  The plan for it is akin to the

stuff we see in our schools where they want to hold back the smart kids so that the others won't get their feelings hurt.

We need to praise the doers and shakers because it's because of them we have the life styles we so much enjoy.  It's

sad that most don't have or never took the time to better themselves but with most advances we all benefit.   There 

are a number of countries that hate us and some have very good reason but we have our government to thank for

that.  How many times can we screw countries like we did Haiti and expect then to love us.  Love has nothing to do

with Hilda's plans but power and control.  The US is facing something it has never faced before.  At this time what we

do, and by do I mean who we vote for will determine if the US is to continue to be sovereign nation of we the people

or a launch pad to bring about it's destruction.  Hilda is not the beast nor is Obama, O they hate Christians enough but

both together would not make a pimple on "The Anti-Christ's ass."   According to the bible the anti-christ is going to

kick the hell out of the Muslim nations and plunder them just before he comes to power.  The left behind crap is just that,

crap.  Sorry people but it's total fiction.  I say that because too many think Hilda might be the anti-christ.  First he is a

man and second he is a man of war.   I don't think Obama or Hilda meets the requirements but I have not seen Hilda

naked, God forbid.  Both could be precursors to the anti-christ because they both seem hell bent on building up the 

Muslim religion.  After all the anti-christ has to have someone to make war against because it's his victory over them

that is used to gain control.  Playing both sides like a fiddle.   I may not live to get to see it come down but it's all falling

into place to those who know what the word of God say about it.   Anyway, hope I answered your question even though

I got a little off topic.

RL

"It's a matter of record that she lied to congress and should be punished for it."

Is that another one of those records you misplaced, can't find, or really doesn't exist?

"I think she was holding back when she called us deplorable."

I can show you where Clinton said "half the Trump supporters "belong in the basket of deplorable". Some of your remarks are very silly and you can't or won't validate other remarks, but IMO, you're not deplorable. Why do you think you are?

"The US is facing something it has never faced before."

Yep a woman President! Are you saying women aren't qualified to be Commander-in-chief?

"According to the bible the anti-christ is going tokick the hell out of the Muslim nations and plunder them just before he comes to power."

For the record, Islam began in the 6th century C.E., about two hundred years after Jerome compiled the Vulgate. However, it's your prerogative how you choose to interpret the Bible.

"Playing both sides like a fiddle."

Some Biblical scholars say the Book of Revelations is about the Roman Empire and Nero played the fiddle while Rome burned.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Stack

You could tell me something that only someone who served with you would know, I have connections with many

veterans and I am sure one of them served during the same time you claim.  Maybe a commanders name, maybe

the name of someone killed etc..  Nothing to give away who you are but that can be confirmed.

 

My last duty assignment was at TFB OK. My CO was Col Preston J. Daniels, He was nicknamed Can do Daniels.

Our motto was "Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way"  You will have to find someone from that time to know

what his nickname was.  I don't think it's published anywhere.

RL

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

At best maybe he was one of these;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8uIwi1oHuw

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 26, 2016

My suggestion to you is stop listening to "bewildered idiots".

I did stop listing, I blocked all the major news networks.

Let me guess, one of your "bewildered idiots" friends told you that, but you can't find a record with Clinton saying that. How are going to convince people to vote against Clinton with nothing but the word of "bewildered idiots"?

It's in the emails she thought she had deleted forever.

I thought you said you are a "disabled veteran"?

My oath was never withdrawn.

If you were military you should have know this. 

I am a disabled vet, not dead.

 

My youngest son has served for almost 10 years now so with a little math you should be able to figure which wars.

My daughter is a military doctor and served in Iraq.  When she was called up for a second time she was pregnant

with her first child and as such did not go.  She now works in a military setting tending to our soldiers coming

back from the battlefield. 

 

I served, my brother served, kids served, uncles served, one of my kids was a policeman, my cousin is a chief of police

One of my best friends was a  representative and could of ran again unchallenged but chose not to.  You say you served

but I question if that's true.  Your questioning my service is OK but if you think any of this is made up your dead wrong. 

RL

"It's in the emails she thought she had deleted forever."

Is that email public record that we can all see or should we just take your word she said it in a deleted email?

"My oath was never withdrawn"

Been around lots of other vets and never heard any of them mentioning the Oath of Enlistment much less "withdrawing" it? But I've heard of recruits retracting an Enlistment.

"You say you served but I question if that's true."

I was drafted and sent to Vietnam my last nine months. I know I served regardless what you believe.

"Your questioning my service is OK  "

I questioned if you were disabled while in the service because your job didn't sound like you were wounded in action. And than I said something about how anybody can say they were a General; we're anonymous posters on a message board.

"My youngest son has served for almost 10 years now"

Does he believe our military is in the terrible condition Trump says it is?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 25, 2016

No, all the fist quenching demo's are at Trump rallies trying to disrupt his speeches.  I know the the demons  demo's

get so upset when he talks, yells about all Hilda's evil plans like taking all our guns and lying to congress or deleting

thirty thousand emails etc... so can you really blame them?   Obama care is a massive failure and Bill agrees so I don't

know what the problem is there.  It's a matter of record that she lied to congress and should be punished for it.  The

emails let us all know what she really thinks and I think she was holding back when she called us deplorable.   In her

mind I think it was far worse then Trumps locker room babble.  We see others go to jail for far less and she is without

fear except when she sees a Trump rally.  People are mad as hell that  Hilda seems to be above the law and that the

government has forgotten that it's main job is that of a public servant.   The media is not helping as they are more than

wiling to disrupt and divide the people in the US using tactics a snake would not touch.  The only thing keeping Trump

from running th board is ignorance or maybe just plain hatred for western civilization.  The plan for it is akin to the

stuff we see in our schools where they want to hold back the smart kids so that the others won't get their feelings hurt.

We need to praise the doers and shakers because it's because of them we have the life styles we so much enjoy.  It's

sad that most don't have or never took the time to better themselves but with most advances we all benefit.   There 

are a number of countries that hate us and some have very good reason but we have our government to thank for

that.  How many times can we screw countries like we did Haiti and expect then to love us.  Love has nothing to do

with Hilda's plans but power and control.  The US is facing something it has never faced before.  At this time what we

do, and by do I mean who we vote for will determine if the US is to continue to be sovereign nation of we the people

or a launch pad to bring about it's destruction.  Hilda is not the beast nor is Obama, O they hate Christians enough but

both together would not make a pimple on "The Anti-Christ's ass."   According to the bible the anti-christ is going to

kick the hell out of the Muslim nations and plunder them just before he comes to power.  The left behind crap is just that,

crap.  Sorry people but it's total fiction.  I say that because too many think Hilda might be the anti-christ.  First he is a

man and second he is a man of war.   I don't think Obama or Hilda meets the requirements but I have not seen Hilda

naked, God forbid.  Both could be precursors to the anti-christ because they both seem hell bent on building up the 

Muslim religion.  After all the anti-christ has to have someone to make war against because it's his victory over them

that is used to gain control.  Playing both sides like a fiddle.   I may not live to get to see it come down but it's all falling

into place to those who know what the word of God say about it.   Anyway, hope I answered your question even though

I got a little off topic.

RL

You got a Lil off topic- you think? You need to focus on answering one question & one only, why? Because it's as you said,  you go off topic but I am not that surprised because being a disciple of Trump,  his mastered the art of going off topic within seconds. Some habits are hard to break,  but you do have the potential to break free...After the election. I will light a candle for you. You can thank me later. 

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I rate you in the "Stupidity gone to seed category."  I would deem a slug more intelligent.

 

Is that another one of those records you misplaced, can't find, or really doesn't exist?

No I watched her lie on TV.

 

I can show you where Clinton said "half the Trump supporters "belong in the basket of deplorable". Some of your remarks are very silly and you can't or won't validate other remarks, but IMO, you're not deplorable. Why do you think you are?

Call one and you call them all.  First tell me this, how many of the half has she ever met? I guess she uses some kind of esp

to get that figure.   

 

Yep a woman President! Are you saying women aren't qualified to be Commander-in-chief?

Nope! just Hilda in this case.  I would love to see a woman as president.

 

For the record, Islam began in the 6th century C.E., about two hundred years after Jerome compiled the Vulgate. However, it's your prerogative how you choose to interpret the Bible.

I get my information from what's called the old testament. Nothing important concerning eschatology in revelations can't be found

in the old testament.   Muslim as I relate to is a geographical term and denotes a people not a religion. 

 

Some Biblical scholars say the Book of Revelations is about the Roman Empire and Nero played the fiddle while Rome burned.

Some but not all of the book of revelation is past tense. 

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

I thought you said you are a "disabled veteran"?

Thanks for volunteering, but I'll sleep better knowing our real military is defending us.

 

What an insult to a veteran. Especially a disabled one. You owe the man an apology.

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Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

RL,

Anyone who talks of people cowering i bunkers was no doubt a REMF (Rear echelon MF)

The grunts were in the rice paddies and triple canopy jungle getting rocketed and mortared while the REMFS were making up war stories to write homer about.

Coin

101st Airborne 1/502nd Infantry 67-'68

WETSU

Sat Cong

When I used to reply to Stack I guessed that 47 was his birth year then he said maybe it was his age when he joined LP. Pretty neat trick if he was 47 in 2006 and served in 'Nam. Just another lying liberal. I think his military service is a total fantasy. He said he's a lifetime member of the VFW (I'm lifetime DAV) and now he says he went to 'Nam when he had nine months left....it was a 13 month (usually 12 if you were lucky) tour and the Army didn't usually send people with less than 13 months left.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 25, 2016

I guess you never heard of constitutional amendments or just getting the Supreme Court to rule on what these documents

actually say.  Some bewildered idiots think the 2nd amendments right to bear arms does not include personal gun rights.  I

know, it's kind of stupid that a working brain would interpret it that way but that's why the election is more about the Supreme

Court than anything else.  Hilda is on record that she wants all our guns, not just the big ones but all of them.  I know your

kind of slow so maybe this will help you understand.   Do you trust lying crooked Hilda to hold to the constitution in her evil

plan.  GW said it was just a piece of paper and Hilda thinks even less of it because it stands in her way.  I still say that anyone

who does not like it should move to another country where it's not the rule of law. I swore a oath to defend the Constitution

against all enemies both foreign and domestic and I plan to keep that oath. 

RL

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

The National Guard has a constitutional right to carry firearms, people do not. I don't think we should completely ban it, but severe regulations are needed on such destructive weapons. 

"I still say that anyone who does not like it should move to another country where it's not the rule of law"

Dop you also hold the same view towards the Republican members of Congress who actively try to ban abortions or defund Obamacare despite both being laws in this country?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 25, 2016

I saw on the news last night that the price for obamacare is going up 25% in January. So much for cheap, affordable insurance.

"Heritage did put forward the idea of an individual mandate, though it predated HillaryCare by several years. We know this because we were there: In 1988-90, we were employed at Heritage as a public relations associate (a junior writer and editor), and we wrote at least one press release for a publication touting Heritage’s plan for comprehensive legislation to provide universal “quality, affordable health care.” As a junior publicist, we weren’t being paid for our personal opinions. But we are now, so you will be the first to know that when we worked at Heritage, we hated the Heritage plan, especially the individual mandate. “Universal health care” was neither already established nor inevitable, and we thought the foundation had made a serious philosophical and strategic error in accepting rather than disputing the left-liberal notion that the provision of “quality, affordable health care” to everyone was a proper role of government. As to the mandate, we remember reading about it and thinking: “I thought we were supposed to be for freedom.” The plan was introduced in a 1989 book, “A National Health System for America” by Stuart Butler and Edmund Haislmaier. We seem to have mislaid our copy, and we couldn’t find it online, but we did track down a 1990 Backgrounder and a 1991 lecture by Butler that outline the plan. One of its two major planks, the equalization of tax treatment for individually purchased and employer-provided health insurance, seemed sensible and unobjectionable, at least in principle."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/10/20/how-a-conservative-think-tank-invented-the-individual-mandate/#6ddee512621b

Repeal and Replace this right wing nonsense with real reforms.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 25, 2016

He is.

Presidents like to issue "Executive Orders".

Don't like guns? Try a couple executive orders.

Of course, there will be liberal judges to appoint to the Supreme Court.

Hillbag gets in, things ain't getting better if you like freedom. No matter what the naysayers believe.

"Article II, section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads, in part, "The executive power shall be vested in a president of the United States of America." And, Article II, section 3 asserts that, "The President shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed..." Since the Constitution does not specifically define executive power, critics of executive orders argue that these two passages do not imply constitutional authority. But, Presidents of the United States since George Washington have argued that they do and have used them accordingly."

"In extreme cases, Congress may pass a law that alters an executive order, and they can be declared unconstitutional and vacated by the Supreme Court."

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/Presidential-Executive-Orders.htm

Executive Orders are LITERALLY in the Constitution and aren't some mystical supreme power that is above checks and balances.. A change in the Constitution can only happen through an amendment, which won't happen for the foreseeable future. 

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 24, 2016

The electoral college follows the voters wishes from their respective districts.

http://archive.fairvote.org/?page=967

No. Some states require electors to vote according to the popular vote winner, but not all. I have no doubt in my mind though that Bill Clinton would vote for Clinton or Donald Trump Jr would vote for Trump if either wins NY (yes both of them are NY electors for their respective partiesso one of them will in all likelihood be casting an electoral votr come December)

Also lottery sidenote, one of the Democratic electors from Tennessee is a former Powerball winner named Roy rum

http://www.politico.com/magazine/thepeoplewhopickthepresident/2016/the-powerball-winner

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 26, 2016

Stack

You could tell me something that only someone who served with you would know, I have connections with many

veterans and I am sure one of them served during the same time you claim.  Maybe a commanders name, maybe

the name of someone killed etc..  Nothing to give away who you are but that can be confirmed.

 

My last duty assignment was at TFB OK. My CO was Col Preston J. Daniels, He was nicknamed Can do Daniels.

Our motto was "Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way"  You will have to find someone from that time to know

what his nickname was.  I don't think it's published anywhere.

RL

"You could tell me something that only someone who served with you would know,"

And that would mean nothing unless you know the person I served with. Years ago, I read in the paper where someone I served with was running for mayor and he asked me to verify his rank and his Vietnam service because they thought he was lying.

"My last duty assignment was at TFB OK. My CO was Col Preston J. Daniels,"

Daniels retired from there in 1982, nine years after our military involvement in Vietnam ended. Daniels was stationed at Nha Trang Air Base in Vietnam but oddly spelled it Natrang in his bio. Were you in Nam with him?

"Nothing to give away who you are but that can be confirmed."

I was in with the first brigade, first infantry division at Quan Loi. The brigade commander "Devil 6" was tanker.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Is that email public record that we can all see or should we just take your word she said it in a deleted email?

Guess you have never heard about the leaked emails.  I am sure you don't believe they are real so until you do

then why would you even ask. 

 

Been around lots of other vets and never heard any of them mentioning the Oath of Enlistment much less "withdrawing" it? But I've heard of recruits retracting an Enlistment.

So I guess you don't consider the oath you took important?

 

I was drafted and sent to Vietnam my last nine months. I know I served regardless what you believe.

I will have to take your word for that.

 

I questioned if you were disabled while in the service because your job didn't sound like you were wounded in action. And than I said something about how anybody can say they were a General; we're anonymous posters on a message board.

I am rated service connected 30%.  You sound a little like Trump.  I guess something as meaningless as lets say a aircraft explosion 

or maybe being exposed to hazardous materials or getting a heavy object dropped on a person would not count as a real injury.  How

many bullets did you take?  I knew a guy that was shot in the head with a BB gun as a prank and thought he should be awarded a

purple heart. True story.   Many Air force personal are exposed to the same dangers in peace time as war time because the job is the

same.   I had a buddy that lost both legs in peace time doing his job.  They were crushed by a gun turret.  Maybe that don't count 

either.   

 

Does he believe our military is in the terrible condition Trump says it is?

He is not one to complain, you would have to ask him.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 26, 2016

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

The National Guard has a constitutional right to carry firearms, people do not. I don't think we should completely ban it, but severe regulations are needed on such destructive weapons. 

"I still say that anyone who does not like it should move to another country where it's not the rule of law"

Dop you also hold the same view towards the Republican members of Congress who actively try to ban abortions or defund Obamacare despite both being laws in this country?

Which is it? The right of the people to keep and bear arms, or the sentence below that...."people do not"?

I don't expect the National Guard is going to be there when some fool tries to break in my home, or harm my family.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 26, 2016

Which is it? The right of the people to keep and bear arms, or the sentence below that...."people do not"?

I don't expect the National Guard is going to be there when some fool tries to break in my home, or harm my family.

You've got that right Jamora. As the saying goes "I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop".

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 26, 2016

I thought you said you are a "disabled veteran"?

Thanks for volunteering, but I'll sleep better knowing our real military is defending us.

 

What an insult to a veteran. Especially a disabled one. You owe the man an apology.

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Really classy of you taking what I said out of context.

His disability came after and is not service related. Seriously do you think RL and Coin Toss can protect your family from the ISIS threat Trump keeps talking about?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 26, 2016

You got a Lil off topic- you think? You need to focus on answering one question & one only, why? Because it's as you said,  you go off topic but I am not that surprised because being a disciple of Trump,  his mastered the art of going off topic within seconds. Some habits are hard to break,  but you do have the potential to break free...After the election. I will light a candle for you. You can thank me later. 

Going way off topic is getting to be the norm for lots of these Trump supporters. RL said he reads Clinton's deleted emails.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 26, 2016

Going way off topic is getting to be the norm for lots of these Trump supporters. RL said he reads Clinton's deleted emails.

How are the deleted emails off topic? She was in a top government office, and failed miserably at national security. President? NO ...Prison? YEP!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

None of your arguments hold water.

 

Two issues here, "A well regulated militia" and  "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed"

If this statement only means militias have the right then why add the word "people" in the latter part.  Why not say that

it is unlawful to denied militias.  The reason is because part is to the state and the second is to the people. If it's as you\

say then why was the peoples guns not taken at that time.  People hunted for food and needed guns to protect themselves

from any number of things.  Wild animals, unfriendly people  etc...

 

First I am not a republican and I think that the government has no business getting involved in abortions, for or against. 

 

Obama care is maybe the worst law ever made but I do pay for it.  Laws can and are changed all the time.  I could not

be happier to see Obama care go.

 

New laws come and go all the time. There use to be laws concerning sodomy, maybe we should bring that one back,

after all it was a law.  I don't think the Gays would think to highly of that one.

 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 26, 2016

Really classy of you taking what I said out of context.

His disability came after and is not service related. Seriously do you think RL and Coin Toss can protect your family from the ISIS threat Trump keeps talking about?

Stack-of-ass-wipes

 

Who are you talking about when you made the following statement.

His disability came after and is not service related.  If this was pointed at me then you are a F***ing liar.

 

And for this foolishness. "Seriously do you think RL and Coin Toss can protect your family from the ISIS threat Trump

keeps talking about?"    I can still shoot the eyes out of, well just about anything that has eyeballs.  I own several

weapons and visit the range quite often.  I ve had marine combat training, survival training, extreme weather training

so bring it on ISIS.   I am skilled in many things that would be very useful in any type of combat situation. 

 

You have no idea who your talking to you piece of dog-$hit.

 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

noise-gate

While were on the topic of posting I would request that you switch fonts.  The one you use looks like crap and is hard to

read.  Some say my post are hard to follow but I don't se it.  Not asking for perfect grammar, spelling etc.. just use another

font.

Rl

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 26, 2016

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

The National Guard has a constitutional right to carry firearms, people do not. I don't think we should completely ban it, but severe regulations are needed on such destructive weapons. 

"I still say that anyone who does not like it should move to another country where it's not the rule of law"

Dop you also hold the same view towards the Republican members of Congress who actively try to ban abortions or defund Obamacare despite both being laws in this country?

I guess you missed the point of the Oxford comma's, it's like a list.

A well regulated militia.

The Right of the people to keep and bear arms.

Yes members of congress have the right to try and change law, Doesn't mean the Supreme Court will.

 

 

I have a Ruger .22  semi automatic with a 15 round banana clip, now if someone breaks into my house, I got 15 chances to drop them, I practice head, heart and groin shots, I may not kill whomever breaks into my house, but with a well placed groin shot, they will remember what they did every time they empty their urine collection bag.

Dee88's avatarDee88

         NEW LEAK: Here Is Who Ordered Hillary To Leave The 4 Men In Benghazi!

NEW LEAK: Here Is Who Ordered Hillary To Leave The 4 Men In Benghazi!

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 26, 2016

I guess you missed the point of the Oxford comma's, it's like a list.

A well regulated militia.

The Right of the people to keep and bear arms.

Yes members of congress have the right to try and change law, Doesn't mean the Supreme Court will.

 

 

I have a Ruger .22  semi automatic with a 15 round banana clip, now if someone breaks into my house, I got 15 chances to drop them, I practice head, heart and groin shots, I may not kill whomever breaks into my house, but with a well placed groin shot, they will remember what they did every time they empty their urine collection bag.

I just looked Your gun up looks like a neat gun, my grandpa has a lot of guns in his house he was a hunter and collector i know nothing about them of course he and my granny have passed away, the house is just as they left it. Maybe some day i will clean it all out and sell the house. But anyway i never have shooted a gun before.

bigbear29

Show where it states who ordered Hillary to leave the 4 men in Benghazi????? Or should we ASSUME or read between the lines for the answer?

dr65's avatardr65

Megyn Kelly and Gingrich..

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/26/media/megyn-kelly-newt-gingrich-donald-trump/index.html 

I don't get why some networks and anchors don't see how biased they are, it's very clear.

The story about Trump is no where near as important as what Hillary has in store for us all.

The media constantly talks about what kind of person we will have in office..Hillary's infractions

are on a much more grand scale than anything Trump has done or said in the distant past.

And they'll have you believe that words are going to make a difference when they were said 

20 years ago? Actions always spoke louder and when you are already in politics and have done

what Hillary has done, her actions are speaking very LOUDLY. 

Her speeches, actions, beliefs, statements, dealings should all be a warning sign to all of us.

They are far more damaging than these women coming out years later to claim they've been

sexually assaulted by Trump. The latest, the porn star, is laughable. It's been reported she has

a line of merchandise coming out and to accuse Trump of the things she does, it's quite obvious

this is just too coincidental. Why weren't these women reporting these things years ago? 

No one thinks of the family involved and how the coverage of allegations hurt them. Media is 

pushing too hard on the past about things that aren't as important as how a country will be run

by a dirty politician who has made security blunders, gave speeches very contrary to what she

says in public and has dirty dealings through the Clinton Foundation while Secretary of State.

She moved $1.8 billion to Qatar?? Sounds like how much the Clinton Foundation has raised in

its existence. 10% of the money went to charity, calculate now..isn't that $200 million..interesting.

$1.8 billion left to move to a foreign account? For what? In Qatar??

That Foundation rolls money back into another charity run by her and Bill and Chelsea.

She hid her emails due to incriminating evidence against her and lied to the FBI and Congress.

What makes any of you think that she will become squeaky clean if she is sworn in. Too many

failures on her part to run this country. Trump has more than enough of what it takes to do it 

right...he's got ambition and knows this country is going down the tubes under its current

administration and a future one with Hillary Clinton. Get ready to suffer if she is elected. Big time.

She's a liar and a thief and cannot be trusted to make decisions that are good for this country.

bigbear29

Megyn Kelly comes in HOT on the issue of Hillary's emails and brings legal backup:  NO BIAS ABOUT MEGYN!!!!

Megyn Kelly came out on fire on the issue of Hillary Clinton's emails, raising the question if the former Secretary of State had committed a felony.

As political pundits debate the possible political damage the Hillary Clinton email controversy may cause her presidential chances, Judge Andrew Napolitano weighed in on the potential legal problems on The Kelly File Wednesday.

Saying “she's in a lot of trouble legally,” Napolitano laid out his case:

One is if she retained on her personal email account using the Clinton server at her home ... classified materials, classified documents, she arguably violated the same statute that General Petraeus has agreed that he will plead guilty to which prohibits retaining classified information in a non-government non-secured way.

That’s a misdemeanor. It’s not a felony. There’s no grand jury. There’s no trial jury. But the punishment is up to a year in jail and $100,000 fine for each document.

The other way that she’s in trouble is a person who knowingly and willfully destroys or conceals government records. This is a felony punishable in jail by up to three years. And are you ready for this? Disqualification from holding public office under the United States of America in the future.

“Knowingly and willfully destroys or conceals government records.” This is precisely what a former State Department official claims was done, following the Benghazi terrorist attack under Hillary Clinton's watch.

Clinton exclusively used her personal email account and home-based server during her entire tenure as Secretary of State.

Asked by host Megyn Kelly what are the odds that Clinton never sent or received classified correspondence via the account, as the State Department claims, the judge was clear:

"In my view, it would be inconceivable. I don’t know how she could do her job. Because she had the highest security clearance there is.

She had the same security clearance as the President, the Secretary of Defense and the head of the CIA so that she could openly and clearly deal with these national secrets. It’s inconceivable she never dealt with them."

Vergie6

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 26, 2016

         NEW LEAK: Here Is Who Ordered Hillary To Leave The 4 Men In Benghazi!

NEW LEAK: Here Is Who Ordered Hillary To Leave The 4 Men In Benghazi!

Oh my goodness!

She is evil to the core!

She will do anything for money & power...anything!!!

Vergie6

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 26, 2016

Megyn Kelly and Gingrich..

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/26/media/megyn-kelly-newt-gingrich-donald-trump/index.html 

I don't get why some networks and anchors don't see how biased they are, it's very clear.

The story about Trump is no where near as important as what Hillary has in store for us all.

The media constantly talks about what kind of person we will have in office..Hillary's infractions

are on a much more grand scale than anything Trump has done or said in the distant past.

And they'll have you believe that words are going to make a difference when they were said 

20 years ago? Actions always spoke louder and when you are already in politics and have done

what Hillary has done, her actions are speaking very LOUDLY. 

Her speeches, actions, beliefs, statements, dealings should all be a warning sign to all of us.

They are far more damaging than these women coming out years later to claim they've been

sexually assaulted by Trump. The latest, the porn star, is laughable. It's been reported she has

a line of merchandise coming out and to accuse Trump of the things she does, it's quite obvious

this is just too coincidental. Why weren't these women reporting these things years ago? 

No one thinks of the family involved and how the coverage of allegations hurt them. Media is 

pushing too hard on the past about things that aren't as important as how a country will be run

by a dirty politician who has made security blunders, gave speeches very contrary to what she

says in public and has dirty dealings through the Clinton Foundation while Secretary of State.

She moved $1.8 billion to Qatar?? Sounds like how much the Clinton Foundation has raised in

its existence. 10% of the money went to charity, calculate now..isn't that $200 million..interesting.

$1.8 billion left to move to a foreign account? For what? In Qatar??

That Foundation rolls money back into another charity run by her and Bill and Chelsea.

She hid her emails due to incriminating evidence against her and lied to the FBI and Congress.

What makes any of you think that she will become squeaky clean if she is sworn in. Too many

failures on her part to run this country. Trump has more than enough of what it takes to do it 

right...he's got ambition and knows this country is going down the tubes under its current

administration and a future one with Hillary Clinton. Get ready to suffer if she is elected. Big time.

She's a liar and a thief and cannot be trusted to make decisions that are good for this country.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 26, 2016

RL,

Anyone who talks of people cowering i bunkers was no doubt a REMF (Rear echelon MF)

The grunts were in the rice paddies and triple canopy jungle getting rocketed and mortared while the REMFS were making up war stories to write homer about.

Coin

101st Airborne 1/502nd Infantry 67-'68

WETSU

Sat Cong

When I used to reply to Stack I guessed that 47 was his birth year then he said maybe it was his age when he joined LP. Pretty neat trick if he was 47 in 2006 and served in 'Nam. Just another lying liberal. I think his military service is a total fantasy. He said he's a lifetime member of the VFW (I'm lifetime DAV) and now he says he went to 'Nam when he had nine months left....it was a 13 month (usually 12 if you were lucky) tour and the Army didn't usually send people with less than 13 months left.

The Trump supporters I know are educated enough to know every base camp in Vietnam was hit during the Tet Offence and many of them continued to be hit until 1973.

"The grunts were in the rice paddies and triple canopy jungle getting rocketed and mortared"

Tell that guys at Khe Sanh.

"He said he's a lifetime member of the VFW (I'm lifetime DAV) and now he says he went to 'Nam when he had nine months left."

You must spend lots of time with RL's"bewildered idiots. For those who are interested, there were 200,000 American troops in Vietnam in 1965 and increased to 400,000 in 1966-1967. Westmoreland told Congress in November 1967 that  all South Vietnam Provincial Capitals were secure and that the war could be won with just another 150,000 troops. Lots of those 150,000 troops sent to Vietnam in early 1968 were draftees with less than a year left on their two year enlistment. 

"the Army didn't usually send people with less than 13 months left."

Stick to having fun at you local "lottery store" writing on the back play slips and then putting them back in the stacks. Because you have no clue how the Army used draftees to increased troop levels in Vietnam.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 26, 2016

I thought you said you are a "disabled veteran"?

Thanks for volunteering, but I'll sleep better knowing our real military is defending us.

 

What an insult to a veteran. Especially a disabled one. You owe the man an apology.

US Flag

RL said, "I swore a oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic and I plan to keep that oath."

and I said, I thought you said you are a "disabled veteran"? (wondering what his plan to defend was as a disabled veteran) And then said "Thanks for volunteering (thanks but no thanks), but I'll sleep better knowing our real military is defending us.(as if RL could defend anyone against an enemy like ISIS)"

Reading comprehension is very difficult for some of Trump's "poorly educated" supporters, but I didn't think you are one of them. I highlighted what I was responding to and hopefully clear up your confusion.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 26, 2016

Stack-of-ass-wipes

 

Who are you talking about when you made the following statement.

His disability came after and is not service related.  If this was pointed at me then you are a F***ing liar.

 

And for this foolishness. "Seriously do you think RL and Coin Toss can protect your family from the ISIS threat Trump

keeps talking about?"    I can still shoot the eyes out of, well just about anything that has eyeballs.  I own several

weapons and visit the range quite often.  I ve had marine combat training, survival training, extreme weather training

so bring it on ISIS.   I am skilled in many things that would be very useful in any type of combat situation. 

 

You have no idea who your talking to you piece of dog-$hit.

 

RL

"I can still shoot the eyes out of, well just about anything that has eyeballs.  I own several weapons and visit the range quite often.  I ve had marine combat training, survival training, extreme weather training so bring it on ISIS. I am skilled in many things that would be very useful in any type of combat situation."

Have a Partridge and Pear tree too?

You sound like Achmed the Dead Terrorist.

"

dr65's avatardr65

Anyone else feel the waves of change over there on CNN? Skeptical

'Trump leads Clinton in new Florida poll...'

'Clinton's lead shrinks in NH..'

'Trump to spend much more of his own money up until Election day..'

Let's dissect this..

in the past, it was all Hillary is leading, Hillary inches ahead, Hillary broadens her lead..

Campaign money...if Trump is putting more of his in, that's good news..he has it and he is using it.

Clinton is taking tons of donations and spending it on smear...

Those headlines aren't the norm for CNN.

I think they have to fix the mess they made...without saying they might just be getting nervous..what will they

do if all this time they smeared Trump and he wins can they continue on in the spirit of the election, to smear

him as President?

Watch and see how the headlines change slightly. It might be a more hospitable place for Trump, if that's even 

possible...I wouldn't in a million years think so too long ago..but I do notice a slight change, so lets see. Lurking

dr65's avatardr65

Dollar Bill?....let's call him what he is.....Billion Dollar Bill.

$30 Million with $66 Million to be paid out over 9 years!

Conflict. Conflict. Conflict.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/26/bill-clinton-inc-email-details-how-top-aides-helped-make-ex-president-rich.html 

Do you believe Hillary when she said they came out of the White House broke? 

What, exactly, is broke to her? 

Surely not the same it is for a lot of other people.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trump rally in Charlotte, NC.  Live stream starts in about half an hour. 

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 26, 2016

         NEW LEAK: Here Is Who Ordered Hillary To Leave The 4 Men In Benghazi!

NEW LEAK: Here Is Who Ordered Hillary To Leave The 4 Men In Benghazi!

That's a terrible tragedy. That could have been avoided. She's got ties to the dirtiest scoundrels

in the world. How is that compatible with national security, honor and just plain dignity?

If the United States elects this woman as President the corruption, favors and dirty dealings

will just intensify. 

I don't see many Elect Hillary signs out there...Trump and Pence I see lots. I saw Lock Her Up and

Hillary for Prison. 

So sad CNN and major media has been able to spin their lies. I think a fair amount of people do not

know what she did...I can't say they don't care, it's that they just don't know.

dr65's avatardr65

Ty GreenBay!!

US Flag Trump!!!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 26, 2016

Ty GreenBay!!

US Flag Trump!!!

I have a Trump/Pence sticker on my gas guzzling 2008 Ford F-150 extended cab.  No protesters jumped in front of me while driving.... Too bad.

dr65's avatardr65

Trump's Hollywood Walk of Fame destroyed by vandals.

BLM and No Justice No Peace spray painted on his hotel in downtown Washington.

Hillary and crew are eating this up. It's just where they want the people. In a state

of chaos so they can appear to be the knights in shining armor or the peacemakers.

They aren't. Until those that are angry and hateful and resentful and violent

realize who is for them and who isn't and stop listening to the riot causing networks

and empty lies of Obama and all that claim to care, things won't get better. 

 

What did the black man in office right now do for you? Is your life better? He used

you for PR..he used the whites too..and anyone else he could to push his agenda.

His agenda is the same as Hillary's will be...advance yourself while fooling the people.

Lots of Trump supporters are so sick and tired of same old politics. A white man and

a white woman, both rich and you have to decide who has the best message for you

and your future. Hillary can't visualize anything without wanting to know what's in it

for her..Trump visualizes an America as it should be..the most important thing missing

in this equation is him...because it's NOT about HIM...it's about US.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 26, 2016

"I can still shoot the eyes out of, well just about anything that has eyeballs.  I own several weapons and visit the range quite often.  I ve had marine combat training, survival training, extreme weather training so bring it on ISIS. I am skilled in many things that would be very useful in any type of combat situation."

Have a Partridge and Pear tree too?

You sound like Achmed the Dead Terrorist.

"

Stack-of-crap

Many AF CES members were trained in combat, after all sometimes we were the first ones into a area.  Back in the day the AF

considered Russia to be the primary threat and we had to maintain bases in the far north. Anything inside a 5 mile perimeter

we were required to deal with.  I often carried both m-16 and a side arm.  I had a small arms expert ribbon with more oak leaf

clusters then I could pin on it.  I will say this, there were a few Marines assigned to us from time to time on extended tdy's as

the AF did not have cooks.  Yes, the Marines cooked our food and we were proud to have them there.  Extreme weather training

was mandatory. 

Here's another one for you to lick, back when stationed at TAFB there was civilian supervisor named Benny Powell.  He had a 

niece named Susan Powell.  I doubt you remember anything from back then but Susan was Miss America in 1981. She came to

the base and I got to meet her, called him uncle Benny,  This should be easy enough to for you to Verify as she is still alive. 

Tell me this, is the 47 in the stack47 your age when you joined LP.  That would make you 57 now, so long nam-vet.  You could

have provided your CO's name but instead you said Tanker.  Really!   Many people use the birth year in their user name so I

expect we can calculate your age, something smells fishy to say the least.  I guess it could be the year you were born but

that would make you 66 now. I still don't believe you/

Rl

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 26, 2016

Megyn Kelly and Gingrich..

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/26/media/megyn-kelly-newt-gingrich-donald-trump/index.html 

I don't get why some networks and anchors don't see how biased they are, it's very clear.

The story about Trump is no where near as important as what Hillary has in store for us all.

The media constantly talks about what kind of person we will have in office..Hillary's infractions

are on a much more grand scale than anything Trump has done or said in the distant past.

And they'll have you believe that words are going to make a difference when they were said 

20 years ago? Actions always spoke louder and when you are already in politics and have done

what Hillary has done, her actions are speaking very LOUDLY. 

Her speeches, actions, beliefs, statements, dealings should all be a warning sign to all of us.

They are far more damaging than these women coming out years later to claim they've been

sexually assaulted by Trump. The latest, the porn star, is laughable. It's been reported she has

a line of merchandise coming out and to accuse Trump of the things she does, it's quite obvious

this is just too coincidental. Why weren't these women reporting these things years ago? 

No one thinks of the family involved and how the coverage of allegations hurt them. Media is 

pushing too hard on the past about things that aren't as important as how a country will be run

by a dirty politician who has made security blunders, gave speeches very contrary to what she

says in public and has dirty dealings through the Clinton Foundation while Secretary of State.

She moved $1.8 billion to Qatar?? Sounds like how much the Clinton Foundation has raised in

its existence. 10% of the money went to charity, calculate now..isn't that $200 million..interesting.

$1.8 billion left to move to a foreign account? For what? In Qatar??

That Foundation rolls money back into another charity run by her and Bill and Chelsea.

She hid her emails due to incriminating evidence against her and lied to the FBI and Congress.

What makes any of you think that she will become squeaky clean if she is sworn in. Too many

failures on her part to run this country. Trump has more than enough of what it takes to do it 

right...he's got ambition and knows this country is going down the tubes under its current

administration and a future one with Hillary Clinton. Get ready to suffer if she is elected. Big time.

She's a liar and a thief and cannot be trusted to make decisions that are good for this country.

  I saw that last nite when it first came on and it made by nite...  Good for Newt.... He is a very smart man..

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 26, 2016

Trump's Hollywood Walk of Fame destroyed by vandals.

BLM and No Justice No Peace spray painted on his hotel in downtown Washington.

Hillary and crew are eating this up. It's just where they want the people. In a state

of chaos so they can appear to be the knights in shining armor or the peacemakers.

They aren't. Until those that are angry and hateful and resentful and violent

realize who is for them and who isn't and stop listening to the riot causing networks

and empty lies of Obama and all that claim to care, things won't get better. 

 

What did the black man in office right now do for you? Is your life better? He used

you for PR..he used the whites too..and anyone else he could to push his agenda.

His agenda is the same as Hillary's will be...advance yourself while fooling the people.

Lots of Trump supporters are so sick and tired of same old politics. A white man and

a white woman, both rich and you have to decide who has the best message for you

and your future. Hillary can't visualize anything without wanting to know what's in it

for her..Trump visualizes an America as it should be..the most important thing missing

in this equation is him...because it's NOT about HIM...it's about US.

No doubt one of Hilda's clan paid to have this done.  The major news networks needed another story to cover

and Hilda ordered it up.  I don't know about anyone else but I am as calm as a kitten.  We all know she will stoop

to anything to get elected.  She will never have my respect even if she becomes president. 

We need a Never Clinton campaign

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Fox news is just another one of the major news network pukes.  What they are trying to do to Trump 

should be criminal.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

The republicans need to hold onto both house and senate so if Hilda is elected they can put her down.

Kaine was chosen to be VP in 2015 so more than likely he is in it as deep a Hilda.  Remember how he

acted when it was announced?

RL

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Oct 26, 2016

I just looked Your gun up looks like a neat gun, my grandpa has a lot of guns in his house he was a hunter and collector i know nothing about them of course he and my granny have passed away, the house is just as they left it. Maybe some day i will clean it all out and sell the house. But anyway i never have shooted a gun before.

Find a good instructor and it will be a breeze.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

sully

A few weeks back I purchased a new plinker but decided on the marlin 795 vs the ruger 10-22.  I have a 1968

nylon 66 but it's tube fed and wanted a clip fed rifle.  While at the range a couple weeks back a guy offered me

$300.00 for the nylon 66 but I had to turn him down.  Pro mag makes a 25 round clip for the marlin but I have

yet to purchase one.  Have you made any conversions to your gun, there are tons of cool upgrades.  The final

reason for me getting the marlin was price, picked it up at bass pro for less than $130 after rebate.  Shoots like

a dream.

RL

dr65's avatardr65

Now that there are problems with vote changes in Florida at the Soros owned voting machines, Trump doesn't look

so unreasonable now about fraud does he?

According to the story of course, they're blaming human error...well how in the he*ll can it be human error if you

vote straight republican and your vote changes to Clinton after you made your selection for Trump?

He knew there would be a problem with voting and you tell me, if you were running and found yourself in a dirty

campaign, wouldn't you want very strict standards? I would and I have no problem at all with Trump saying it's

rigged...because whether it's 100% support by media for Hillary or covering stories to make Trump look bad or making

his ideas crazy, I'll always support the man because he is right. Media was/is rigged to report and over report on his past..

they intentionally ignored Hillary's past. We had to hear how good Hillary was and how bad Trump was 100 times a day.

The voting machines..is there no low they won't sink to in order to have absolute power?

With 2 weeks to go, this turn around will be amazing...Hillary is slipping fast, her past is catching up and it's not going to 

be pretty.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

It's happening all over where Soros machines are being used.  How can anyone trust in the election numbers?

It would be so easy to write code that would change so many of the votes and then remove it's self later.  This

has to be a conflict of interest.  Soros, one of Clinton's handlers buying the voting machine company that supplies

voting machines to many states!  How could anyone with a working brain not see this as a problem.  Hilda supporters

are the first ones that come to mind. 

RL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 26, 2016

Stack-of-crap

Many AF CES members were trained in combat, after all sometimes we were the first ones into a area.  Back in the day the AF

considered Russia to be the primary threat and we had to maintain bases in the far north. Anything inside a 5 mile perimeter

we were required to deal with.  I often carried both m-16 and a side arm.  I had a small arms expert ribbon with more oak leaf

clusters then I could pin on it.  I will say this, there were a few Marines assigned to us from time to time on extended tdy's as

the AF did not have cooks.  Yes, the Marines cooked our food and we were proud to have them there.  Extreme weather training

was mandatory. 

Here's another one for you to lick, back when stationed at TAFB there was civilian supervisor named Benny Powell.  He had a 

niece named Susan Powell.  I doubt you remember anything from back then but Susan was Miss America in 1981. She came to

the base and I got to meet her, called him uncle Benny,  This should be easy enough to for you to Verify as she is still alive. 

Tell me this, is the 47 in the stack47 your age when you joined LP.  That would make you 57 now, so long nam-vet.  You could

have provided your CO's name but instead you said Tanker.  Really!   Many people use the birth year in their user name so I

expect we can calculate your age, something smells fishy to say the least.  I guess it could be the year you were born but

that would make you 66 now. I still don't believe you/

Rl

"Tell me this, is the 47 in the stack47 your age when you joined LP."

What is you and Coin Toss' fixation with people having numbers in their ID?

"You could have provided your CO's name but instead you said Tanker."

I said the Brigade Commander when I was at Quan Loi was a Tanker. Imagine that, my military service is being questioned by a fool that never heard of "chain of command" or know that Army officers are Infantry, Artillery, Tanks, Signal, MSC, etc.

"Many people use the birth year in their user name so I expect we can calculate your age, something smells fishy to say the least."

Ask Sully16 or Lady743 if they're using their birth year, Sherlock.

"I still don't believe you/"

It's because you go off on tangents and can't remember the original point. We were talking about when Trump said only the weak suffer from post traumatic stress disorder. You agreed with Trump's assertion and sited your Air Force procurement agent job as hands on experience of PTSD.

I take no joy by continually pointing out that your intelligence and some other Trump supporters are actually proving why he should not be President.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 26, 2016

Now that there are problems with vote changes in Florida at the Soros owned voting machines, Trump doesn't look

so unreasonable now about fraud does he?

According to the story of course, they're blaming human error...well how in the he*ll can it be human error if you

vote straight republican and your vote changes to Clinton after you made your selection for Trump?

He knew there would be a problem with voting and you tell me, if you were running and found yourself in a dirty

campaign, wouldn't you want very strict standards? I would and I have no problem at all with Trump saying it's

rigged...because whether it's 100% support by media for Hillary or covering stories to make Trump look bad or making

his ideas crazy, I'll always support the man because he is right. Media was/is rigged to report and over report on his past..

they intentionally ignored Hillary's past. We had to hear how good Hillary was and how bad Trump was 100 times a day.

The voting machines..is there no low they won't sink to in order to have absolute power?

With 2 weeks to go, this turn around will be amazing...Hillary is slipping fast, her past is catching up and it's not going to 

be pretty.

Happening in Texas also, pollsters told the people it was user error.

They all voted a straight Republican ticket.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 26, 2016

sully

A few weeks back I purchased a new plinker but decided on the marlin 795 vs the ruger 10-22.  I have a 1968

nylon 66 but it's tube fed and wanted a clip fed rifle.  While at the range a couple weeks back a guy offered me

$300.00 for the nylon 66 but I had to turn him down.  Pro mag makes a 25 round clip for the marlin but I have

yet to purchase one.  Have you made any conversions to your gun, there are tons of cool upgrades.  The final

reason for me getting the marlin was price, picked it up at bass pro for less than $130 after rebate.  Shoots like

a dream.

RL

Sweet.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 26, 2016

My suggestion to you is stop listening to "bewildered idiots".

I did stop listing, I blocked all the major news networks.

Let me guess, one of your "bewildered idiots" friends told you that, but you can't find a record with Clinton saying that. How are going to convince people to vote against Clinton with nothing but the word of "bewildered idiots"?

It's in the emails she thought she had deleted forever.

I thought you said you are a "disabled veteran"?

My oath was never withdrawn.

If you were military you should have know this. 

I am a disabled vet, not dead.

 

My youngest son has served for almost 10 years now so with a little math you should be able to figure which wars.

My daughter is a military doctor and served in Iraq.  When she was called up for a second time she was pregnant

with her first child and as such did not go.  She now works in a military setting tending to our soldiers coming

back from the battlefield. 

 

I served, my brother served, kids served, uncles served, one of my kids was a policeman, my cousin is a chief of police

One of my best friends was a  representative and could of ran again unchallenged but chose not to.  You say you served

but I question if that's true.  Your questioning my service is OK but if you think any of this is made up your dead wrong. 

RL

RL, I am just catching up on all the posts and after reading this particular post I want to thank you and all of your family for the service to our country.  I am sorry you are now a disabled veteran. 

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 26, 2016

It's happening all over where Soros machines are being used.  How can anyone trust in the election numbers?

It would be so easy to write code that would change so many of the votes and then remove it's self later.  This

has to be a conflict of interest.  Soros, one of Clinton's handlers buying the voting machine company that supplies

voting machines to many states!  How could anyone with a working brain not see this as a problem.  Hilda supporters

are the first ones that come to mind. 

RL

Hmmmmm writing code to change votes and remove it later.  Did they take the tip from the lottery employee?

Sounds just like Tipton!

I have read several stories that people have already voted and voted for Trump but the vote went to Hillary, seems it automatically defaulted to Hillary.  I would never vote on a machine owned by Soro's ever.  PERIOD.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Re: Draftees in Viet Nam. Some were darn good soldiers, some were not so good. 

The ones that weren't such good soldiers learned quickly that the less they said the better their chance of survival. 

Sounds like Stack is getting his war experiences out of books....... 6 in the Army just meant commander, 5 was XO, etc.....

Wae stories start out "Now this is no s$^&", fairy tales start with "Once upon a time".

Khe Sahn was a firebase.

People never know who they're talking to or don't know other people can see through them. I saw plenty of draftees, when they were sent to Airborne units they were known as NAPS, Non Airborne Personnel. 

Too bad Stack wasn't one of those drafted into the Marines where he could have encountered a DI that hated draftees.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 26, 2016

Hmmmmm writing code to change votes and remove it later.  Did they take the tip from the lottery employee?

Sounds just like Tipton!

I have read several stories that people have already voted and voted for Trump but the vote went to Hillary, seems it automatically defaulted to Hillary.  I would never vote on a machine owned by Soro's ever.  PERIOD.

This is really concerning. I have read that 16 states utilize Soros voting machines and with computer experts on Hillary's side it wouldn't surprise me if one of the engineers created a special algorithm for the election. Tipton perpetrated fraud and now just imagine having 50 of Google's guys writing  codes for Soros's machines. This is downright unnerving.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 26, 2016

  I saw that last nite when it first came on and it made by nite...  Good for Newt.... He is a very smart man..

I no longer watch Megyn Kelly's show but did catch clips of her interview with Newt. Her true liberal stripes were apparent during that interview...I agree that Newt is a very smart man and one of the best debaters out there.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 26, 2016

Re: Draftees in Viet Nam. Some were darn good soldiers, some were not so good. 

The ones that weren't such good soldiers learned quickly that the less they said the better their chance of survival. 

Sounds like Stack is getting his war experiences out of books....... 6 in the Army just meant commander, 5 was XO, etc.....

Wae stories start out "Now this is no s$^&", fairy tales start with "Once upon a time".

Khe Sahn was a firebase.

People never know who they're talking to or don't know other people can see through them. I saw plenty of draftees, when they were sent to Airborne units they were known as NAPS, Non Airborne Personnel. 

Too bad Stack wasn't one of those drafted into the Marines where he could have encountered a DI that hated draftees.

CT, my brother served in Viet Nam and he returned 100% different from when he went in.  I have no idea what happened there but to this day the only thing he ever said was you didn't know who the enemy was, everyone was shooting at you.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 26, 2016

CT, my brother served in Viet Nam and he returned 100% different from when he went in.  I have no idea what happened there but to this day the only thing he ever said was you didn't know who the enemy was, everyone was shooting at you.

lejardin,

Very true. "ARVN by day (Army of South Viet Nam), VC by night.

Kind of like these Afghan policemen and soldiers killing GIs.

There was never supposed to have been another Viet Nam.

Bang Head

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

My great uncle, the one I posted a pic of early in this topic never talked about WWII until a couple years before he died. 

In a on camera interview for a war documentary he broke down in tears.   When I was younger I always viewed him as

a lean mean fighting machine but now that I am older I look at that picture and see a scared kid.  I am not a hero by any

means but I am proud to have worn the uniform and have noting but respect for all members of the armed forces.

RL

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Oct 26, 2016

I no longer watch Megyn Kelly's show but did catch clips of her interview with Newt. Her true liberal stripes were apparent during that interview...I agree that Newt is a very smart man and one of the best debaters out there.

I used to like Megyn Kelly but once she got her own show she changed.  It appears her main concern is topping Bill O'Reilly and seems arrogant and conceited, I no longer watch her show but Newt was going to be on and I wanted to see what he had to say. 

It was not what I was expecting Megyn was rude, Newt did not back down and he made an azz out of her, she got what she deserved.  You are right, her liberal leaning was there for all to see. 

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Oct 26, 2016

I no longer watch Megyn Kelly's show but did catch clips of her interview with Newt. Her true liberal stripes were apparent during that interview...I agree that Newt is a very smart man and one of the best debaters out there.

  I never really was a fan of Megyn Kelly either and when she got her own show she really took a turn for the worst..she even tried to get Mike Pence mad also but he kept his cool and put her right back in her place... she will never be able to hold a candle to Hannity or Lou Dobbs. check out the link that dr65 posted about her looks like her  contract is ending soon...

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 26, 2016

Re: Draftees in Viet Nam. Some were darn good soldiers, some were not so good. 

The ones that weren't such good soldiers learned quickly that the less they said the better their chance of survival. 

Sounds like Stack is getting his war experiences out of books....... 6 in the Army just meant commander, 5 was XO, etc.....

Wae stories start out "Now this is no s$^&", fairy tales start with "Once upon a time".

Khe Sahn was a firebase.

People never know who they're talking to or don't know other people can see through them. I saw plenty of draftees, when they were sent to Airborne units they were known as NAPS, Non Airborne Personnel. 

Too bad Stack wasn't one of those drafted into the Marines where he could have encountered a DI that hated draftees.

"Sounds like Stack is getting his war experiences out of books......."

Anybody that ever rolled the dice on a Craps Table, knows that you were no dealer. How many years have you been conning the very gullible?

"6 in the Army just meant commander, 5 was XO, etc...."

Are you saying an E-6 is a commander?

Now you're trying to convince the gullible you were in the Army.

"Khe Sahn was a firebase."

And nowhere close to a jungle or rice paddies where you said all the major fighting was. FYI, Khe Sahn was a Combat Base. Firebases were Battalion size or smaller. With the Internet full of information, only you can get it totally wrong.

"I saw plenty of draftees, when they were sent to Airborne units they were known as NAPS, Non Airborne Personnel."

Airborne was and still is voluntary. Are you talking about the U.S. Army or some third world country?

The school is completely voluntary

Let me get this straight, jump school was voluntary, clearly said you saw "plenty of draftees", and called them "Non Airborne Personnel". What exactly were they doing at jump school and how could you possibly know if the were drafted or RA?

"drafted into the Marines where he could have encountered a DI that hated draftees."

Considering 42,633 men were drafted into the Marines between 1966 and 1970, your imaginary DI hated lots of people. Do you ever get anything right and is it because I always prove you're full of it, why do you have me blocked from your Blog? 

LOL

noise-gate

This place is getting as whippy as a pet coon.I just read a few posts back that stated that Hillary got orders from the Saudi 's to leave ambassador Stevens  & others behind in Benghazi thus leading to their deaths. What on earth is going on here,  who in their right freaking mind would ever suggest that BS There are some sickos here, sorry but that claim goes beyond the pail. F that shyyt.

destinycreation

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 26, 2016

  I never really was a fan of Megyn Kelly either and when she got her own show she really took a turn for the worst..she even tried to get Mike Pence mad also but he kept his cool and put her right back in her place... she will never be able to hold a candle to Hannity or Lou Dobbs. check out the link that dr65 posted about her looks like her  contract is ending soon...

I thought Megan Kelly was Republican [like Fox News] She just doesn't care too much for Donald Trump, b/c he was rude to her.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 26, 2016

RL said, "I swore a oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic and I plan to keep that oath."

and I said, I thought you said you are a "disabled veteran"? (wondering what his plan to defend was as a disabled veteran) And then said "Thanks for volunteering (thanks but no thanks), but I'll sleep better knowing our real military is defending us.(as if RL could defend anyone against an enemy like ISIS)"

Reading comprehension is very difficult for some of Trump's "poorly educated" supporters, but I didn't think you are one of them. I highlighted what I was responding to and hopefully clear up your confusion.

Yeah, I'm a Trump supporter.  You betyerass I am. Who else would I vote for? Hillary? Green laugh Who with Bill, seems to be in scandal after scandal. Travelgate, Whitewater, Monica,  using her personal server for classified info, lying before congress, telling the world how long it takes us to do a nuclear launch in the last debate, taking money from foreign governments. Having to have a teleprompter at the debates because she can't answer questions on the fly. I could go on... 

I'm sure you have seen or read all this a few times before as has everyone else. But yet you still think she is the best person to be president? Sure she is...  ROFL  And you think my reading comprehension is bad? 

Just an observation, but has anyone else noticed that Hillary hasn't been wearing an American flag pin on the front of her clothes like other presidential candidates have done.  Maybe it's because she only cares about money and power, and she doesn't give a sh*t about our country. Think about it.

noise-gate

No woman should be abused. A woman of character will not tolerate it- why should Megan? I do notice that lots of his supporters will come up with all kinds of excuses for his behavior. The classic lines are " oh, that was a long time ago, people speak like that all the time".. Wouldn't it be something if he became President and decided to nuke a country- l bet some supporters would say " well they were asking for it. " 

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

noise-gate

Like the new font, thanks

Thumbs Up

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 26, 2016

noise-gate

Like the new font, thanks

Thumbs Up

So you like it huh?  No disrespect but are you a man or a woman? 

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Fox at it's root is not republican, it's all about ratings.   Trump was rude to Megan but I have never been a fan

so maybe it did not hit me as hard as others.  She yanked Trumps cord and he spit back.  Trump seems to be

learning as he goes and I hope it continues, for the better I mean. 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 26, 2016

So you like it huh?  No disrespect but are you a man or a woman? 

Ill tell if you do, I was kinda of wondering the same thing about you. 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I held off asking because I know some in your neck of the woods are confused. 

RL

kreative1's avatarkreative1

Both men married to women.

Howard Stern can't even vote for Trump

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I guess you missed many of my post where I mentioned my wife and kids, IMO someone would be a little lame

if they were unable to figure it out.

Don't try to hide you intentions you worthless <snip> eating maggot.  I bet you love that ATM man to man action

don't you. 

RL

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RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Howard Stern, who cares. 

RL

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 26, 2016

  I never really was a fan of Megyn Kelly either and when she got her own show she really took a turn for the worst..she even tried to get Mike Pence mad also but he kept his cool and put her right back in her place... she will never be able to hold a candle to Hannity or Lou Dobbs. check out the link that dr65 posted about her looks like her  contract is ending soon...

Hey Dee88, I forgot about Mike Pence!  You are right, she tried to pick a fight with him too.  When I saw that segment I thought whoa, what is up with Megyn? It still didn't occur to me she was trying to start something.  When I saw the Newt segment, that confirmed it, someting is up and she is full of herself.

Maybe she sees when she upsets the applecart, she gets attention.  Her contract is soon up and I read she is trying to negotiate to a higher position at fox or go elsewhere and a $25 million salary.  I might be wrong about the salary, I think that is what she is wanting, not what she is currently earning.  Think it might come back to bite her, she probably should just go to CNN, sounds like it might be abetter fit.  Besides a liberal she's a libber, could be Elizabeth Warrens new best friend.

Wonder what other hosts think of her?

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 26, 2016

Hey Dee88, I forgot about Mike Pence!  You are right, she tried to pick a fight with him too.  When I saw that segment I thought whoa, what is up with Megyn? It still didn't occur to me she was trying to start something.  When I saw the Newt segment, that confirmed it, someting is up and she is full of herself.

Maybe she sees when she upsets the applecart, she gets attention.  Her contract is soon up and I read she is trying to negotiate to a higher position at fox or go elsewhere and a $25 million salary.  I might be wrong about the salary, I think that is what she is wanting, not what she is currently earning.  Think it might come back to bite her, she probably should just go to CNN, sounds like it might be abetter fit.  Besides a liberal she's a libber, could be Elizabeth Warrens new best friend.

Wonder what other hosts think of her?

Petition to remove Megyn Kelly....

https://www.change.org/p/fox-news-fox-news-remove-megyn-kelly

 

Already has almost 25, 000 sigs....

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 26, 2016

Which is it? The right of the people to keep and bear arms, or the sentence below that...."people do not"?

I don't expect the National Guard is going to be there when some fool tries to break in my home, or harm my family.

The right of the people doesn't mean all the people. There are laws against children and the mentally ill from owning guns, only the National Guard has a constitutional right to guns. But you should expect the police to respond to such an emergency, even though it's quite rare for that to happen

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95379&page=1

The Wild West is gone, time to follow Australia into the future.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 26, 2016

The right of the people doesn't mean all the people. There are laws against children and the mentally ill from owning guns, only the National Guard has a constitutional right to guns. But you should expect the police to respond to such an emergency, even though it's quite rare for that to happen

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95379&page=1

The Wild West is gone, time to follow Australia into the future.

JAMORA

Don't believe the crap above for a moment, you have the right to own any gun you can afford to buy.

RL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 26, 2016

I held off asking because I know some in your neck of the woods are confused. 

RL

If you noticed, l did ask politely. Why?  Because I have never had a guy tell me he liked my font- that's all. Since I don't generally follow your threads there is no way for me to draw the conclusion that you male. It's all good- my Mrs is devastating gorgeous so l'm super pleased, thought I would just throw that out there for good measure RL.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 26, 2016

JAMORA

Don't believe the crap above for a moment, you have the right to own any gun you can afford to buy.

RL

I know....I'm not even going to engage in such rubbish.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Bull<snip>, I am a programmer and choosing the correct fonts is important to any program.  The old font gave me blurred

vision trying to read it.  It's no wonder, others don't follow your post.

RL

 

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noise-gate

So you a programmer huh? Well you come off as ignorant considering that the font l am using is from the batch LP has installed. Just because you don't like it or have blurred vision is not my fault. You had best see an eye doctor to correct your vision. As for the remark of no one following my posts- you seem to,given that you took the time to respond. I don't come to LP to wonder whether people are following my posts or not, those worries are for little minds like yours seeing that you brought up the topic. I will light a candle for you. 

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Hilda on the other hand is looking to appoint someone who will take a difference stance on the meaning of the 2nd amendment.

She wants our guns.  I say if the second amendment only covers state, well regulated militias then why did they not  make a effort

to disarm citizens when it was ratified 12/15/1791.   If we get a Trump appointed justice then maybe we can have the issue

settled once and for all.  In 1791 the people depended on guns to live, IMHO the meaning is as clear as glass.  A militia should be

as well armed as any federal force.  This adds to then balance of power to keep a federal government at bay.  The federal government

is suppose to protect the rights of the people.  It's number one job iis to prevent the State from denying us our rights.  It has never

been more against the people then it is today.  Drain the swamp. 

RL

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 26, 2016

The right of the people doesn't mean all the people. There are laws against children and the mentally ill from owning guns, only the National Guard has a constitutional right to guns. But you should expect the police to respond to such an emergency, even though it's quite rare for that to happen

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95379&page=1

The Wild West is gone, time to follow Australia into the future.

Since when is there a law against the mentally ill owning guns?

Felons are not allowed to own guns.

Different States have different laws on how old you have to be to own guns.

  1. A rifle
  2. Shot gun
  3. Hand gun    Thank God my son isn't a hand wringing limp wristed pansy, he learned to shoot when he was 6.

   

 

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I guess you don't read post except as a agitator.  Never mind the 100 or so programs that I have uploaded here

on LP that have been downloaded thousands of times.  One was downloaded over 10K times in a very short time.

I will put my IQ against yours any day but be prepared to eat crow.  Programming is not that hard to learn and I

use several languages depending on what I am working on.  Lottery stuff is just a side hobby.  Much of my time

programming is spent on writing algorithms for embedded systems where memory is very limited.  Sorry if I don't

fit into you presuppose ideology of what is intellectual people write on lottery boards but your not the first person

to make that mistake.  Save your candle, you might need it for something useful.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

sully

I got my first rifle as a hand me down from my older brother when I was 6.  It was a Springfield/Stevens model 15 bolt action

22 cal.  I still have it and a couple months back restored it to like new condition.   The wife still has her childhood 4-10 bolt

action and it still works and looks like new.  I packed that old model 15 hundreds of miles as a kid.  Those were the days I 

remember most about my childhood.  A box of shorts cost 20 cents, longs were $0.25 and LFs were $0.30.  My childhood

heroes were Davy Crockett and Daniel  Boone.  I could read every animal track in th county. 

RL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 26, 2016

This place is getting as whippy as a pet coon.I just read a few posts back that stated that Hillary got orders from the Saudi 's to leave ambassador Stevens  & others behind in Benghazi thus leading to their deaths. What on earth is going on here,  who in their right freaking mind would ever suggest that BS There are some sickos here, sorry but that claim goes beyond the pail. F that shyyt.

When they know their man can't win, lies are all they have left. But you know what Trump said about his supporters so posting silly stuff like that is expected.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 26, 2016

Petition to remove Megyn Kelly....

https://www.change.org/p/fox-news-fox-news-remove-megyn-kelly

 

Already has almost 25, 000 sigs....

Thanks Jamora, I  had no idea there was a petition, I was reading some of the comments lol.

Guess we arent the only ones thinking MK has changed into a pompous rearend.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 26, 2016

I guess you don't read post except as a agitator.  Never mind the 100 or so programs that I have uploaded here

on LP that have been downloaded thousands of times.  One was downloaded over 10K times in a very short time.

I will put my IQ against yours any day but be prepared to eat crow.  Programming is not that hard to learn and I

use several languages depending on what I am working on.  Lottery stuff is just a side hobby.  Much of my time

programming is spent on writing algorithms for embedded systems where memory is very limited.  Sorry if I don't

fit into you presuppose ideology of what is intellectual people write on lottery boards but your not the first person

to make that mistake.  Save your candle, you might need it for something useful.

RL

l am not an agitator- l ask questions. Some do not like the questions l ask and remain silent, and that's fine. Take the topic of Trump, l have asked many questions going back to why the repubs have not put forward a replacement program for Obamacare which they for the most part condemn- to the best of my knowledge, its still " crickets". Just by reading your post l can tell you think a great deal of yourself, and if that makes you feel important, more power to you. Lecturing the forum on your writing algorithms, me being prepared to eat crow,  your name all in Capitals...l am speechless. Live long and Prosper.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 26, 2016

When they know their man can't win, lies are all they have left. But you know what Trump said about his supporters so posting silly stuff like that is expected.

l hope that people do not resort to violence once the election is over. l do not recall violence breaking out in 2000. This election cycle has been ugly to say the least. 

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 26, 2016

Hey Dee88, I forgot about Mike Pence!  You are right, she tried to pick a fight with him too.  When I saw that segment I thought whoa, what is up with Megyn? It still didn't occur to me she was trying to start something.  When I saw the Newt segment, that confirmed it, someting is up and she is full of herself.

Maybe she sees when she upsets the applecart, she gets attention.  Her contract is soon up and I read she is trying to negotiate to a higher position at fox or go elsewhere and a $25 million salary.  I might be wrong about the salary, I think that is what she is wanting, not what she is currently earning.  Think it might come back to bite her, she probably should just go to CNN, sounds like it might be abetter fit.  Besides a liberal she's a libber, could be Elizabeth Warrens new best friend.

Wonder what other hosts think of her?

     Maybe her hormones are working over time....  LOL.. I don't care who takes her as long as she's not on Fox... lol

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 26, 2016

Petition to remove Megyn Kelly....

https://www.change.org/p/fox-news-fox-news-remove-megyn-kelly

 

Already has almost 25, 000 sigs....

   As of right now they have 27,900 people that signed that Petition they need 35,000 total...  thanks for the link I think I will be the next one to make it 27,901...... Yes Nod

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 26, 2016

Yeah, I'm a Trump supporter.  You betyerass I am. Who else would I vote for? Hillary? Green laugh Who with Bill, seems to be in scandal after scandal. Travelgate, Whitewater, Monica,  using her personal server for classified info, lying before congress, telling the world how long it takes us to do a nuclear launch in the last debate, taking money from foreign governments. Having to have a teleprompter at the debates because she can't answer questions on the fly. I could go on... 

I'm sure you have seen or read all this a few times before as has everyone else. But yet you still think she is the best person to be president? Sure she is...  ROFL  And you think my reading comprehension is bad? 

Just an observation, but has anyone else noticed that Hillary hasn't been wearing an American flag pin on the front of her clothes like other presidential candidates have done.  Maybe it's because she only cares about money and power, and she doesn't give a sh*t about our country. Think about it.

Weird I thought we were talking about RL standing guard duty preventing ISIS from stealing your Trump bumper sticker.

"But yet you still think she is the best person to be president?"

A third of the Republicans are saying they won't vote for Trump and it looks like Trump won't even win in Utah. It's more like, why don't those people want Trump making opinions about Clinton being the best person irrelevant.

"Just an observation, but has anyone else noticed that Hillary hasn't been wearing an American flag pin on the front of her clothes like other presidential candidates have done."

I saw those pins on their suit lapels too. Do you expect her to dress like a man?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 26, 2016

JAMORA

Don't believe the crap above for a moment, you have the right to own any gun you can afford to buy.

RL

Never said (s)he doesn't (unfortunately), just not a constitutional right

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 26, 2016

Since when is there a law against the mentally ill owning guns?

Felons are not allowed to own guns.

Different States have different laws on how old you have to be to own guns.

  1. A rifle
  2. Shot gun
  3. Hand gun    Thank God my son isn't a hand wringing limp wristed pansy, he learned to shoot when he was 6.

   

 

http://csgv.org/issues/guns-and-mental-health/

But of course we're a third world hell hole so they still get guns. 

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/30/health/mental-illness-guns/

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 26, 2016

I know....I'm not even going to engage in such rubbish.

The difference between an adult and a child, the ability to respond respectfully.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 26, 2016

When they know their man can't win, lies are all they have left. But you know what Trump said about his supporters so posting silly stuff like that is expected.

You need to replace the man with woman and his with her and I would agree.  Lies is all Hilda has.

RL

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Stack.

Stop making believe you know so much more than you actually do and stop jumping to conclusions, you're only making a fool out of yourself. 

Interesting you insist I wasn't a dealer in Vegas. 

I never said an E6 was a commander, I said 6 on the radio - as in a call sign - meant a commander, 5 was the XO, etc.....

I never said the draftees in the Airborne went to jump school, once in country they got assigned to Airborne units and were known as NAPS. You jumped to a conclusion and associated them with jump school. You're really giving yourself away as the phony you are by asking how could we know if the NAPS were draftee or RA. A soldier's serial number at the time had a prefix of RA for Regular Army, US for draftee, NG for Nat'l Guard, ER for enlisted Reserve. I guess the war novel you read and adopted as your own experience didn't cover that. 

As for the Marine DI when a boot was asked why they joined the Marines and said they'd been drafted a lot of times it didn't go over well.

You're blocked from my blog because you are an arrogant smug think you know it all and think you're the best educated person on the board. Truth be known most of your information comes from the Internet and you try to pass yourself off as an expert. 

HOW COME PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL DON'T KNOW WHEN TO SHUT UP. 

Choke on that for awhile.

I also think you are not a well heeled lottery hi roller at all but just a degenerate lotto player.

Crawl back into your make believe world. Since you've been exposed as a fraud stop trying to impress people with your 'war stories'. Good luck when the Sudden Valor folk get a hold of you.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

noise-gate

Your undertones give you away, your little side stepping sneers don't go unnoticed so lay off the crap.

I don't care if Trump wants to be carried around on a litter.   I don't care if he has a pre-existing plan to

replace Obama care.   I know it's Obama's legacy but if something does not work it should be replaced. 

I have two issues in the upcoming election.  First, I want the US to stay a sovereign nation.  Second, I

want someone who supports our Constitution.  I have many issues with Hilda but these two things are

getting my vote.  Everything else will be worked out in some fashion.   I have yet to see a president keep

the promises they have made so I don't expect this election to be any different except for the two things

most important to me.  If they can fix Obama care then that's great.  If not throw it out and start again.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 27, 2016

The difference between an adult and a child, the ability to respond respectfully.

Keep telling yourself that and maybe some day you will believe it.  Hard replies translates backbone.

It''s like when Hilda says, "I don't recall."  I guess we should all say, well then, we all suffer that at 

some time or another,  OK you can go.   I say shoot her ass full of sodium pentothal, strap a lie detector

to her and ask again.  When someone is holding the documents in their hand that states otherwise

it's unthinkable to accept that kind of a answer.   I can't remember anything except every other thing

that I have done.  Do we want a president that can't remember something as important as that?  I say

NO.   

RL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 26, 2016

Petition to remove Megyn Kelly....

https://www.change.org/p/fox-news-fox-news-remove-megyn-kelly

 

Already has almost 25, 000 sigs....

The Dems started the same type of petition three years ago, but after they thought about it, with Kelly backing the Republicans, she had to stay. Sort of like Giuliani and Kellyanne Conway being a Trump surrogates.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 26, 2016

The right of the people doesn't mean all the people. There are laws against children and the mentally ill from owning guns, only the National Guard has a constitutional right to guns. But you should expect the police to respond to such an emergency, even though it's quite rare for that to happen

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95379&page=1

The Wild West is gone, time to follow Australia into the future.

The term you're looking for is "legally" owning firearms. Anybody in KY can walk into gun show and walk out with enough fire power to start a small wall.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 27, 2016

Stack.

Stop making believe you know so much more than you actually do and stop jumping to conclusions, you're only making a fool out of yourself. 

Interesting you insist I wasn't a dealer in Vegas. 

I never said an E6 was a commander, I said 6 on the radio - as in a call sign - meant a commander, 5 was the XO, etc.....

I never said the draftees in the Airborne went to jump school, once in country they got assigned to Airborne units and were known as NAPS. You jumped to a conclusion and associated them with jump school. You're really giving yourself away as the phony you are by asking how could we know if the NAPS were draftee or RA. A soldier's serial number at the time had a prefix of RA for Regular Army, US for draftee, NG for Nat'l Guard, ER for enlisted Reserve. I guess the war novel you read and adopted as your own experience didn't cover that. 

As for the Marine DI when a boot was asked why they joined the Marines and said they'd been drafted a lot of times it didn't go over well.

You're blocked from my blog because you are an arrogant smug think you know it all and think you're the best educated person on the board. Truth be known most of your information comes from the Internet and you try to pass yourself off as an expert. 

HOW COME PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL DON'T KNOW WHEN TO SHUT UP. 

Choke on that for awhile.

I also think you are not a well heeled lottery hi roller at all but just a degenerate lotto player.

Crawl back into your make believe world. Since you've been exposed as a fraud stop trying to impress people with your 'war stories'. Good luck when the Sudden Valor folk get a hold of you.

"Stop making believe you know so much more than you actually do and stop jumping to conclusions, you're only making a fool out of yourself."

It's not about what I know but what you don't know. Why are you fixated on Hillary Clinton and LP members using numbers on their IDs?

"Interesting you insist I wasn't a dealer in Vegas."

It doesn't matter if you say you're the Queen of Outer Mongolia; it's the Internet, nobody cares.

"I said 6 on the radio - as in a call sign - meant a commander, 5 was the XO, etc."

Stop lying. You never said "6 on the radio", you said "Sounds like Stack is getting his war experiences out of books....... 6 in the Army just meant commander, 5 was XO, etc..."

The call sign I answered to was Devil Zulu. Was yours something tutu?

"A soldier's serial number at the time had a prefix of RA for Regular Army, US for draftee"

How did you know what their serial number was; did grab their dog tags?

"As for the Marine DI"

You already forgot you said you were in the Army Airborne. Can't keep your stories straight?

"You're blocked from my blog because you are an arrogant smug think you know it all and think you're the best educated person on the board."

I appreciate you saying "I'm the best educated" and I could help you move out of your current least educated status.

"Truth be known most of your information comes from the Internet and you try to pass yourself off as an expert."

Will saying stuff nobody knows or can verify prove I'm not getting my information from the Internet?

"I also think you are not a well heeled lottery hi roller at all but just a degenerate lotto player."

I won't even bother asking what a "well heeled lottery hi roller" is.

"Good luck when the Sudden Valor folk get a hold of you."

You better worry about what will happen when the real lottery players catch you marking the play slips. I got this when searched "sudden valor". Thanks for laugh!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 27, 2016

You need to replace the man with woman and his with her and I would agree.  Lies is all Hilda has.

RL

Maybe somebody will thank you for convincing them to vote for Trump and they would if they voted, but they won't be voting.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Stack,


Yeah, I was Army Airborne. That doesn't mean I didn't know any Marines. 

I did say 6 in the Army meant commander, I never said E6, that was another of your conclusions. 

No, we didn't grab dog tags, people had to state their serial numbers at times. 

I didn't say you're the best educated, I said you think you're the best educated. Big difference. If you were educated at all you would have spotted it. 

So you fell for the sudden valor. Now try Stolen Valor

Have a nice fantasy life.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Can they redo them VOTES some people in Texas said that isn't what they had wanted.

Vergie6

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 26, 2016

Happening in Texas also, pollsters told the people it was user error.

They all voted a straight Republican ticket.

I just saw that on the news on the Today show...also on another channel they said watch out...none of the emails exposed so far have been a direct one from Hilliary & they said most likely they are coming out one week before the election...watch out!

I'm thinking they could have been the ones they put acid and bleach on & used a hammer on one of the computers she used to be sure they were destroyed or at least they "think" they destroyed them!

I bet she is dreading that moment!Crazy

Vergie6

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Oct 27, 2016

Can they redo them VOTES some people in Texas said that isn't what they had wanted.

I'm wondering the same thing!

Look at this video!

https://youtu.be/mzxzT6M_tL8

bigbear29

Clinton nearly doubles lead over Trump in latest CNBC survey:

With only a dozen days to go before the election, Democratic nomineeHillary Clinton has ratcheted up her lead over Republican nomineeDonald Trump to 9 points, according to the latest CNBC All-America Economic Survey, nearly doubling her advantage from the last poll.

After weeks and months of what many Republican strategists called verbal and strategic missteps by Trump, and despite potentially ruinous revelations from leaked Clinton campaign emails, the Democrat leads the Republican nominee by 46 percent to 37 percent among registered voters in a two-way race and by the same margin among likely voters. In June, Clinton led by just 5 points.

Vergie6

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 27, 2016

Clinton nearly doubles lead over Trump in latest CNBC survey:

With only a dozen days to go before the election, Democratic nomineeHillary Clinton has ratcheted up her lead over Republican nomineeDonald Trump to 9 points, according to the latest CNBC All-America Economic Survey, nearly doubling her advantage from the last poll.

After weeks and months of what many Republican strategists called verbal and strategic missteps by Trump, and despite potentially ruinous revelations from leaked Clinton campaign emails, the Democrat leads the Republican nominee by 46 percent to 37 percent among registered voters in a two-way race and by the same margin among likely voters. In June, Clinton led by just 5 points.

It depends on which poll you read...this one came out today!

 http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-hillary-clinton-holds-narrow-lead-over-donald-trump/

What will count is when the election is held & all of the votes are counted & hoping they are on the level!

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 26, 2016

Petition to remove Megyn Kelly....

https://www.change.org/p/fox-news-fox-news-remove-megyn-kelly

 

Already has almost 25, 000 sigs....

It's now Close to 34,000.

bigbear29

Sorry to say, but that is not going to remove Megyn Kelly.  Fox news has over a million + viewers.  Stop falling for trump's BS.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Oct 27, 2016

It's now Close to 34,000.

its all over the news how badly she treated Newt and people are abandoning her show.  At a time when she is renegotiating her contract to $20 million, great timing.  (I was wrong in my last post, I said it was $25,000,000).  If this was planned, she is taking a huge chance.  Either way I am longer a viewer of her show.

bigbear29

If some news station offers Megyn 20 million + she should leave.  All news people at one station should not fall under the trump BS or under the Hillary BS.  She does not make a news station bias, which is good.  So I hope Fox news is smart enough to keep Megyn Kelly.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 24, 2016

Do you really believe that in th 2012 election not one person in Philadelphia voted for Romney? 

That's what their election board said.

Yeah, I'd say he was cheated. And the clowns that put the Black Panthers in front of the polling places to intimidate anyone not voting for Obama and expected people to believe the count were imbeciles. 

 

Hillary supporters, choke on this;

America will never be defeated from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.

-Abraham Lincoln

Do you really not see the irony of your post? Our country can't continue without trust in the election results being fair. Also black people have the right to stand up, even "SCARY TALL BlACK MEN" have that right. Who knows, maybe they did the unthinkable and actually used their right to vote OH NO.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 27, 2016

Sorry to say, but that is not going to remove Megyn Kelly.  Fox news has over a million + viewers.  Stop falling for trump's BS.

    If it doesn't remove her than her ratings will go down cause I'm sure Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity have a better rating than she will ever have... It will just be a matter of time before she is GONE!!!!

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Vergie6 on Oct 27, 2016

I'm wondering the same thing!

Look at this video!

https://youtu.be/mzxzT6M_tL8

Ty Vergie! I bet they really hate Trump now. Pennsylvania has old machines - great..

Trump said the election would be rigged, there is too much riding on this for Hillary and her band of

thieves. When Trump said rigged he also focused on the media which is absolutely true. It is rigged.

They talk about Hillary and put her in a good light and talk about Trump and everything he does is

wrong.

Are people that stupid? Don't they realize what is going on right in front of their eyes?

dr65's avatardr65

Megyn and Huckabee..

https://youtu.be/tsw4rR7cCxU 

What the heck is the lady screaming it's not a God given nation for, on a side note.

And Huckabee is  right...Hillary couldn't give a rip...she doesn't know about hard work, honesty 

and dedication...her hard work was rewarded with perks, she is not the least bit honest..and she's

only dedicated when the bottom line is herself. So many speeches saying how she worked so

hard...she doesn't know what hard work is, she's been living the good life too long. Anyone would

be who can just move $1.8 billion to Qatar and have a combined worth along with Bill of $111 million

and I doubt that's even the tip of the iceburg. Time to cut the cord, I'm sick of her living the high life

and everyone else is suffering..and I'm not even talking about ME..I'm talking REAL suffering...no food,

no heat, no jobs, no insurance, no hope. NONE. How dare you people support this witch. Get off your

INDIVIDUAL ASSES and start caring about someone else but you. You want Hillary because it's comfortable.

Enough with the comfort. Man up, Woman up and take this country back.

Here's an example of a dying breed..because of deviates like Clinton. She is a hope killer.

We need more of this, and this comes from a child...I want this child to grow up and continue to do this

for people.

Thank God for that boy's mother and her son and I thank God that there are people who are still human. 

https://youtu.be/03TjV78sh5c

dr65's avatardr65

Rigged...and if it's rigged and she wins, then what??

https://youtu.be/1kChCePEUUs

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 27, 2016

noise-gate

Your undertones give you away, your little side stepping sneers don't go unnoticed so lay off the crap.

I don't care if Trump wants to be carried around on a litter.   I don't care if he has a pre-existing plan to

replace Obama care.   I know it's Obama's legacy but if something does not work it should be replaced. 

I have two issues in the upcoming election.  First, I want the US to stay a sovereign nation.  Second, I

want someone who supports our Constitution.  I have many issues with Hilda but these two things are

getting my vote.  Everything else will be worked out in some fashion.   I have yet to see a president keep

the promises they have made so I don't expect this election to be any different except for the two things

most important to me.  If they can fix Obama care then that's great.  If not throw it out and start again.

RL

Undertones? You would have me & others believe that your IQ is off the charts. Well that may be so but you have not addressed my observation of you, Capital Letters for your LP name, me eating crow- in all the time that I have been here,  l don't think I have ever crossed paths with someone who thinks so mighty of themself, but there's a first time for everything as they say. I still wish you Peace. 

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 27, 2016

Sorry to say, but that is not going to remove Megyn Kelly.  Fox news has over a million + viewers.  Stop falling for trump's BS.

Whether Megan is removed or not, it shows the thinking of Trump & his supporters. Remove Ryan & those who oppose Trump,  pass the blame around because Trump cannot take responsibility for his actions. Trump's wife blamed Billy bush for the mess on the bus. I don't recall  billy bush ever asking Trump if he had ever gone after married women? Kinda reminds me of one of those impeachment managers who had a tryst with a woman while married while in his 40's and saying it was a" youthful indiscretion"..forget his name though. 

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 27, 2016

Ty Vergie! I bet they really hate Trump now. Pennsylvania has old machines - great..

Trump said the election would be rigged, there is too much riding on this for Hillary and her band of

thieves. When Trump said rigged he also focused on the media which is absolutely true. It is rigged.

They talk about Hillary and put her in a good light and talk about Trump and everything he does is

wrong.

Are people that stupid? Don't they realize what is going on right in front of their eyes?

dr65

Unfortunately, some people are that stupid. I would classify them as "sheeple".

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 27, 2016

Undertones? You would have me & others believe that your IQ is off the charts. Well that may be so but you have not addressed my observation of you, Capital Letters for your LP name, me eating crow- in all the time that I have been here,  l don't think I have ever crossed paths with someone who thinks so mighty of themself, but there's a first time for everything as they say. I still wish you Peace. 

Not trying to take sides here noise, but what's with your obsession with how RL uses caps for his name?

Really, that's a non-issue you keep bringing up because you can refute what he says.

bigbear29

Noise-gate, that is 100% correct.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I see a total lack of interest in all the emails that have been leaked.  It seems to me that most must think that

when a hacker, hacks a email server all they get is a bunch of text files that look similar to what we see when

we open and view or email.  Wrong.  If anyone is interested in finding out a little more about what is taken in

a hack follow these instructions.  First google how to view email headers for whichever email server you use.

Next open your email account and select any email from your inbox then using the information from the google

search click to view the emails header.  Now copy the header into windows clipboard and then go to any web

site that has a email header tracer such as this one.  http://www.ip2location.com/emailtracer.aspx

Next paste the emails header into the webpage.  You can now see any number of things about the email such

as where it came from etc...   Most of the major news networks will not even mention the emails because they

know they are real and that the information they contain is, well very revealing.   The government tracks every

email I send and maybe they are tracking you and you don't even know it.  The steps above will let you know

one way or the other.  Drain the swamp.

RL

bigbear29

The poles are not rigged!  Trump is only saying that because he knows that he stands a good chance of not getting to 270.  Trump is nothing but a SPOILED CHILD!

If trump loses, he needs to just take his toys and go home.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

double b

I am wrong again, I thought it was impossible for you to come up with yet another absurd post that anyone with half a brain

would not even consider.  Where did you learn this new bit of information, news media I bet. 

RL

bigbear29

RL, than prove that the voting machines are RIGGED!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

If Trump is as you say a "SPOILED CHILD!" then what does that make you? 

RL

bigbear29

RL, it makes me a better MAN!

bigbear29

The only person that would state that United States elections are RIGGED, would be SPOILED LOSING CHILD!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Bring me one of Soros voting machines that's in service and I could most likely prove it 100%  Until then I will have to

trust the reports where people have already reported their vote being changed.  If it's in the news, it must be true.

When will you learn the news networks are as crooked as Hilda.  The heat is on to try and put the voting fraud down

so that people will trust the results. 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 27, 2016

RL, it makes me a better MAN!

Hmmmmm, maybe in your own mind, everyone else knows better.

RL

bigbear29

RL, this is why people should think/research for themselves!

George Soros is the subject of one of the more misguided conspiracy theories of the election:

Last week, political blogs started reporting about concerns that billionaire George Soros owned a company that manufactures voting machines used in 16 states, including swing states like Florida and Arizona.

Amid claims by Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump that this year's election might be "rigged," some people took this as concrete evidence that Soros, a supporter of Hillary Clinton, would be rigging the voting machines to ensure a Democratic victory.

In fact, one person even petitioned Congress to have an emergency session to discuss the voting machines. Almost 57,000 people have signed the petition.

Here's the problem: Soros does not own the company in question. Also, the Smartmatic voting machines are not even going to be used in this year's election.

Smartmatic is owned by Lord Mark Malloch-Brown. He is connected to Soros through the Open Society Foundation, an organization that gives grants to civil society organizations around the world. Malloch-Brown serves on the Open Society Global Board. Smartmatic says on its website, "George Soros does not have and has never had any ownership stake in Smartmatic."

And while the company did have voting machines in Los Angeles and Utah during the primary elections, they will not be used on November 8.

 

NOW, DON'T YOU FEEL STUPID?  You have been played by Dumb Donald Trump.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 27, 2016

Not trying to take sides here noise, but what's with your obsession with how RL uses caps for his name?

Really, that's a non-issue you keep bringing up because you can refute what he says.

I agree. It was only requested that he use a more vision friendly font. I thought we were over that with

question asked and desire granted. After that I don't know what happened again.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Wow, using caps in my user name must bother a lot of people.  I just seen where Obama went on a 4 day vacation

down to Florida to play golf with tiger.  Total cost to the US tax payer, $3.6 million.  It's no wonder he raised the debt

to almost 20 trillion.  What a waste of American hard earned tax dollars.  Can we really stand another 4 years of this

waste?

PS. I used all caps in my user name so I could be KING, NOT.  To tell the truth, it was a mistake as the cap locks was

on and I did not notice it until too late.  Morons.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

To put this into perspective, most people don't earn 3.6 million in their entire lifetime before taxes. 

40 years at 50K per year is only 2 million.  What a piece of dung, he should be ashamed.

RL

bigbear29

RL, I wonder what it cost G. W. Bush for his vacations?

Last December, CBS News reported that the number of vacation days President Obama has taken since the beginning of his presidency stood at 161 days. If you add the 28 days of vacation he has taken this year his total comes to 189 days. If you add his current vacation in Martha’s Vineyard to the mix that still puts him at under 200 days so far. Even if he took every day off the rest of his term in office that would only add an additional 153 days to his total – still placing him at less than half the vacation days of he predecessor.

However his predecessor, two-term President George W. Bush, took 879 days of vacation, including 77 trips to his Texas ranch according to a report by The Washington Post.

According to The Washington Post, “No modern president took less vacation than Jimmy Carter (79 days), while Ronald Reagan spent 335 days at his beloved California ranch.”

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I see you know nothing about Soros and his dirty works in this election.   While maybe mistaken as to the machines

origin that does not account for the votes being changed.

RL

bigbear29

RL, please explain than!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Ever wonder what the W stands for in GW Bush??  "Worthless"  I am not a republican and was almost as much

against him as I was/am Bill, Obama and Hilda.  Birds of a feather flock together.  Bush dreamed of a world order

where the elite ruled the world.  Guess you don't remember that.  Faces change the plan does not.  After all it

was his plan to destabilize the middle east and get the ball rolling.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 27, 2016

RL, please explain than!

Can't you read, O, I forgot you don't think the emails are real.  Pity.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

The election is rigged in more ways than just the voting machines.  Something you are unable to see or admit.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I guess after all the major news outlets spent 91% of time trashing Trump they had no time left to

tell us about Hilda.  They had better things to do with the other 9%.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

It's impossible for me to feel stupid when your involved.   I have been wrong many times but mostly due to

haste, not waste.  Most of the things I post are searched out and even some of those can be hard to find

the truth.  With that said, no I don't feel stupid, I am sure I had a source where Soros had some connection

to the voting machines maybe through another company.  People do confiscate ownership so that's it's hard

to know but I could be mistaken on that one.   The voting machines have been rigged for several elections 

and voter fraud IMHO will be ramped this election.  After all who is watching the hen house?  FBI has lost all

creditability along with the department of justice, and list goes on and on.  You care nothing about issues,

just that your horse wins.  Sad, very sad.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Another issue is the illegal population in the US voting.  Why would anyone be willing to let another country

choose our president.  The dems don't care if they are legal or not which if even one non-citizen votes in the

election than that's voter fraud.  Just think, there could be as many as 30 million illegals in this country.  We

all know who they will vote for if given a chance.

RL

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 27, 2016

Wow, using caps in my user name must bother a lot of people.  I just seen where Obama went on a 4 day vacation

down to Florida to play golf with tiger.  Total cost to the US tax payer, $3.6 million.  It's no wonder he raised the debt

to almost 20 trillion.  What a waste of American hard earned tax dollars.  Can we really stand another 4 years of this

waste?

PS. I used all caps in my user name so I could be KING, NOT.  To tell the truth, it was a mistake as the cap locks was

on and I did not notice it until too late.  Morons.

RL

Hillary brought Michele with her to NC for a rally...normally she has a thousand at the most, today she

had 12,000..Interesting thing Michele said ...when you raise children in the White House everyday like she, Obama

and Hillary have....(poor Bill, no mention) you are reminded everyday of the impact you have..you start seeing the

images of every child in this country in the face of your child - blah, blah, blah - we think about the millions of people

who are watching us...looking to us to show who they can and should be...they try to be the kind of leaders your children

deserve whether they agree with their politics or not...

So all of a sudden its become about the children..and what they deserve and what is best for them.

IS THIS?

Golf, State Dinners, Paid Sachs speeches, Clinton Cash from the Clinton Foundation, a Secretary of State sitting in front of

Congress being questioned by justifiably angry senators, Billions of dollars in dirty money, political favors, preference, lying,

vacations while the American people INCLUDING children were suffering from flooding in Louisiana, that you're allowed to

wine, dine, vacation, enjoy yourself, travel, lie, cheat and steal as a politician. Tell me when it was ever for the all kids

of America - if there were any kids involved it's always been their own kids. 

So Michele was there to appeal to the blacks...I don't think they were buying everything she said though. I'll bet Hillary

was stifling the urge to hurl over some of the things she said but was a true champ - the fixed smile was on her face.

Dead giveaway.

Yeah, nice cost to taxpayer to go golfing.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 27, 2016

The only person that would state that United States elections are RIGGED, would be SPOILED LOSING CHILD!

They are rigged!  Didn't you see what happened to Sanders in the primary?  Face it... Vote for Trump or forever be a democrat useful idiot.

dr65's avatardr65

I read that the Russians wanted to come and witness first hand the US election process. They wanted to sit in

at voting stations..LOL..they were denied..ok, so how long you wanna make a bet will it take for them to say Trump

invited them..

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Sad to say but at this point I'd trust the Russians before I'd trust the democrats or the media in this country.

bigbear29

Black people are voting for Hillary!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 27, 2016

Black people are voting for Hillary!

Who cares?  13%  of the population.  They want to continue to live in poverty, let them.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

You forgot that it's only th live kids she cares about, what you forgot to mention is that she thinks killing them

in the whom is OK.  Take a look at Obama's kids.  They have no respect, not even for daddy.  What about the

kids that watched Obama lie several times on TV about knowing about Hilda's private server?  Or maybe them

watching stories of Hilda lying every day.  O the irony, the hypocrisy, the abominations.  An endless stream of

crap pouring from the bowels of DC.  Vote for real change, vote Trump.

RL

bigbear29

What all black people live in poverty?  What about white people?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 27, 2016

I read that the Russians wanted to come and witness first hand the US election process. They wanted to sit in

at voting stations..LOL..they were denied..ok, so how long you wanna make a bet will it take for them to say Trump

invited them..

Given the amount of money Hilda got from Russia it might have been her plan to have them there to

intimidate voters.

RL

bigbear29

Not RIGGED, just a lot of BS!  Sore losers!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 27, 2016

What all black people live in poverty?  What about white people?

I think the point was that the Black population in the US is not large enough to be the deciding factor. 

Maybe enough to swing the vote one way or another.  Mexicans are tied and if we count the illegals

then they make up a larger percentage.

Rl

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 27, 2016

What all black people live in poverty?  What about white people?

The white people are voting for Trump.  They want jobs!  See his rallies?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 27, 2016

Not RIGGED, just a lot of BS!  Sore losers!

When Trump wins I guess you will be the sore looser.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

double b

I got it, your a webbot and not even a real person.

Maybe you should change you user name to R2D2 or maybe C3PO.  It's all starting to make sense.  Wait, wait,

I detect a malfunction.

RL

bigbear29

Ha..............................................ha

bigbear29

George Soros is the subject of one of the more misguided conspiracy theories of the election:

Last week, political blogs started reporting about concerns that billionaire George Soros owned a company that manufactures voting machines used in 16 states, including swing states like Florida and Arizona.

Amid claims by Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump that this year's election might be "rigged," some people took this as concrete evidence that Soros, a supporter of Hillary Clinton, would be rigging the voting machines to ensure a Democratic victory.

In fact, one person even petitioned Congress to have an emergency session to discuss the voting machines. Almost 57,000 people have signed the petition.

Here's the problem: Soros does not own the company in question. Also, the Smartmatic voting machines are not even going to be used in this year's election.

Smartmatic is owned by Lord Mark Malloch-Brown. He is connected to Soros through the Open Society Foundation, an organization that gives grants to civil society organizations around the world. Malloch-Brown serves on the Open Society Global Board. Smartmatic says on its website, "George Soros does not have and has never had any ownership stake in Smartmatic."

And while the company did have voting machines in Los Angeles and Utah during the primary elections, they will not be used on November 8.

Vergie6

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 27, 2016

Rigged...and if it's rigged and she wins, then what??

https://youtu.be/1kChCePEUUs

Wow! dr65 that is one long video!

I just had to stop watching it because it was sooooooo long...lol

BUT I did get the jest of it!

Thanks!

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 27, 2016

Rigged...and if it's rigged and she wins, then what??

https://youtu.be/1kChCePEUUs

  Talking about rigged machines... ABC has an investigation on tonite at 11PM about Pennsylvania's voting machines...

Dee88's avatarDee88

   I have a question...  If Hillary wins what is the title that Bill gets..?   "First Man Of The White House"...  Bill said he wants to be called Laddie....LMAO....  Well we all know you wears the pants in that Marriage...lol

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 27, 2016

Do you really not see the irony of your post? Our country can't continue without trust in the election results being fair. Also black people have the right to stand up, even "SCARY TALL BlACK MEN" have that right. Who knows, maybe they did the unthinkable and actually used their right to vote OH NO.

There is no 'electioneering' allowed near any polling place. 

If you don't see the antics in Philadelphia as electioneering you're totally brainwashed.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 27, 2016

The poles are not rigged!  Trump is only saying that because he knows that he stands a good chance of not getting to 270.  Trump is nothing but a SPOILED CHILD!

If trump loses, he needs to just take his toys and go home.

Odd you would say that Bear as you seem the type that would take your football home if they didn't let you quarterback.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 27, 2016

   I have a question...  If Hillary wins what is the title that Bill gets..?   "First Man Of The White House"...  Bill said he wants to be called Laddie....LMAO....  Well we all know you wears the pants in that Marriage...lol

Yeah and he also wanted to be called Adam...as in Biblical, imagine that.

First Gentleman..I believe it is...that sounds off too..

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 27, 2016

Stack,


Yeah, I was Army Airborne. That doesn't mean I didn't know any Marines. 

I did say 6 in the Army meant commander, I never said E6, that was another of your conclusions. 

No, we didn't grab dog tags, people had to state their serial numbers at times. 

I didn't say you're the best educated, I said you think you're the best educated. Big difference. If you were educated at all you would have spotted it. 

So you fell for the sudden valor. Now try Stolen Valor

Have a nice fantasy life.

"Yeah, I was Army Airborne. That doesn't mean I didn't know any Marines."

Did somebody say you don't know any Marines?

"I did say 6 in the Army meant commander,"

And as I pointed out, it means other things too.

"No, we didn't grab dog tags, people had to state their serial numbers at times."

When we got paid, but I can't think of one logical reason why it mattered that the guy in front of you was US or RA. Why did it matter?

"I didn't say you're the best educated, I said you think you're the best educated."

More nonsense. How would you know what I think?

"So you fell for the sudden valor."

I clicked on the link you gave, probably just like everybody reading your rant did. It's a simple mistake, why would you say you did something that stupid on purpose?

Keep on posting and touting Trump because with people like you supporting Trump, Clinton will win by a landslide.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 27, 2016

RL, it makes me a better MAN!

"When they go low, you go high".

dr65's avatardr65

Where's my other l in Michelle..?? 

Oh wel...lo...

Soros voting machine conflict...with 13 days to go, what will they do about it? I don't like the fact they're in PA.

I can fully understand Trumps concern and accusations. It's been happening for a long time with the media.

They clearly do not want him in there..but it's up to each individual and not a company or newspaper to have

a preference. The New York Times outright embracing Hillary just about says it all. Gone are the days of a fair

and unbiased media.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 27, 2016

Black people are voting for Hillary!

And lots of the poorly educated say they are voting for Trump. Remember when Trump told his Florida supporters, "Go register, make sure you go out and vote Nov. 28."

bigbear29

LoL, I do remember that and trump supporter will probably go out and vote on Nov. 28.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 27, 2016

  Talking about rigged machines... ABC has an investigation on tonite at 11PM about Pennsylvania's voting machines...

Ty Dee!! That should be interesting. I wonder just how they'll handle this...it is entirely possible with all that's

at stake for a fix.

I think people just count on things going as they should but when there is such a drive for the WH by so so many

that want Hillary in there, you have to wonder what lengths they'll go to in order to make that happen.

Pence's place slid off the runway in NY..he's ok.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 27, 2016

Weird I thought we were talking about RL standing guard duty preventing ISIS from stealing your Trump bumper sticker.

"But yet you still think she is the best person to be president?"

A third of the Republicans are saying they won't vote for Trump and it looks like Trump won't even win in Utah. It's more like, why don't those people want Trump making opinions about Clinton being the best person irrelevant.

"Just an observation, but has anyone else noticed that Hillary hasn't been wearing an American flag pin on the front of her clothes like other presidential candidates have done."

I saw those pins on their suit lapels too. Do you expect her to dress like a man?

Better hide your Hillary stickers and lawn signs, ISIS doesn't like women.

I like to see a president show a little patriotism. If she can't wear her own country's flag, then who's flag would she wear?   

I haven't seen her in a skirt or dress lately, have you?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 27, 2016

Better hide your Hillary stickers and lawn signs, ISIS doesn't like women.

I like to see a president show a little patriotism. If she can't wear her own country's flag, then who's flag would she wear?   

I haven't seen her in a skirt or dress lately, have you?

Her H with an arrow, reminds me of planes flying into the twin towers.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 27, 2016

  Talking about rigged machines... ABC has an investigation on tonite at 11PM about Pennsylvania's voting machines...

It will probably be something like this.

The rumors about problems with the machines are unfounded, don't believe them.

Security has been put in place... to prevent tampering.

Don't worry about double checking your votes. The machines cannot be rigged.

Remember, Al Gore won the popular vote over Bush by 3 million and still lost the election. Don't let that happen this year.

Gore a Democrat, protested and took it all the way to the Supreme court. But Hillary and the media want Trump to just accept the results if he loses a close election. What a bunch of hypocrites!!!

US Flag Trump 2016

noise-gate

When did wearing the American pin on the lapel signify one's patriotism? Isn't being SOS sufficient enough?  When one political party shuts down the government because they can't get their way, is that lack of patriotism, after all,  the country should be run smoothly without hiccups? . Which begs the question: Have the Democrats ever shut down the governmen? Just asking. .

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 27, 2016

The white people are voting for Trump.  They want jobs!  See his rallies?

"They want jobs!"

They want good paying jobs, but Trump said he will not even raise the minimum wage. But because he is Billionaire lots of those people think Trump will give them high paying jobs at his resorts.

"See his rallies?"

Are the rallies large because of the people who want jobs?

I've been to a few rallies over time and the size of the crowd depended on the size of the venue. A high school gym, a couple thousand, and NFL or large college stadium several thousand.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 27, 2016

When did wearing the American pin on the lapel signify one's patriotism? Isn't being SOS sufficient enough?  When one political party shuts down the government because they can't get their way, is that lack of patriotism, after all,  the country should be run smoothly without hiccups? . Which begs the question: Have the Democrats ever shut down the governmen? Just asking. .

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Letter from President Obama to US Government employees affected by the shutdown in 2013

In U.S. politics, a government shutdown is the process the Executive Branch must enter into when the Congress creates a "funding gap" by choosing not to or failing to pass legislation funding government operations and agencies, or, after the Congress passes a bill to fund the government and sends it to the President, the President vetoes that bill. If interim or full-year appropriations are not enacted into law, the United States Constitution and the Antideficiency Act require the federal government begins a "shutdown" of the affected activities. If the funding gap lasts long enough that shutdown plans must be enacted, the law requires the furlough of non-essential personnel and curtailment of agency activities and services. Programs that are funded by laws other than annual appropriations acts (like Social Security) also may be affected by a funding gap, if program execution relies on activities that receive annually appropriated funding.[1] Although the term government shutdown usually refers to what occurs at the federal level, shutdowns have also occurred at the state/territorial and local levels of government.

During Gerald Ford's presidency, one funding gap occurred, lasting 10 days. Under the Carter administrations, funding gaps caused 5 partial shutdowns that affected only the departments of Labor and Health, Education, and Welfare. These lasted from 8 to 18 days and the primary issue of dispute was federal funding for abortion. During the Reagan administration, there were funding gaps with technical shutdowns lasting less than 48 hours or over weekends while spending measures were negotiated rendering them to be of negligible effect. A funding gap during the George H. W. Bush administration also caused a weekend shutdown, resolved late the following Monday.[2]

During the Clinton administration, there were two full government shutdowns during 1995 and 1996 lasting 5 and 21 days respectively, both the longest and most severe to that date. These shutdowns led to massive furloughs and significant disruption. The primary issue was the United States budget deficit.

During Barack Obama's presidency, the United States federal government shutdown of 2013 ran from October 1 to 16, 2013. The primary issue of dispute between the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and the Democratic Senate was the Republicans' desire to delay or defund the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), signed into law in 2010.[3] A bill to end the shutdown and fund federal agencies through January 15, 2014, passed the Senate and the House and was signed into law on October 17, 2013.[4] Standard & Poor's, the financial ratings agency, stated on October 16 that the shutdown "to date has taken $24 billion out of the economy," and "shaved at least 0.6 percent off annualized fourth-quarter 2013 GDP growth."[5]

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 27, 2016

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Letter from President Obama to US Government employees affected by the shutdown in 2013

In U.S. politics, a government shutdown is the process the Executive Branch must enter into when the Congress creates a "funding gap" by choosing not to or failing to pass legislation funding government operations and agencies, or, after the Congress passes a bill to fund the government and sends it to the President, the President vetoes that bill. If interim or full-year appropriations are not enacted into law, the United States Constitution and the Antideficiency Act require the federal government begins a "shutdown" of the affected activities. If the funding gap lasts long enough that shutdown plans must be enacted, the law requires the furlough of non-essential personnel and curtailment of agency activities and services. Programs that are funded by laws other than annual appropriations acts (like Social Security) also may be affected by a funding gap, if program execution relies on activities that receive annually appropriated funding.[1] Although the term government shutdown usually refers to what occurs at the federal level, shutdowns have also occurred at the state/territorial and local levels of government.

During Gerald Ford's presidency, one funding gap occurred, lasting 10 days. Under the Carter administrations, funding gaps caused 5 partial shutdowns that affected only the departments of Labor and Health, Education, and Welfare. These lasted from 8 to 18 days and the primary issue of dispute was federal funding for abortion. During the Reagan administration, there were funding gaps with technical shutdowns lasting less than 48 hours or over weekends while spending measures were negotiated rendering them to be of negligible effect. A funding gap during the George H. W. Bush administration also caused a weekend shutdown, resolved late the following Monday.[2]

During the Clinton administration, there were two full government shutdowns during 1995 and 1996 lasting 5 and 21 days respectively, both the longest and most severe to that date. These shutdowns led to massive furloughs and significant disruption. The primary issue was the United States budget deficit.

During Barack Obama's presidency, the United States federal government shutdown of 2013 ran from October 1 to 16, 2013. The primary issue of dispute between the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and the Democratic Senate was the Republicans' desire to delay or defund the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), signed into law in 2010.[3] A bill to end the shutdown and fund federal agencies through January 15, 2014, passed the Senate and the House and was signed into law on October 17, 2013.[4] Standard & Poor's, the financial ratings agency, stated on October 16 that the shutdown "to date has taken $24 billion out of the economy," and "shaved at least 0.6 percent off annualized fourth-quarter 2013 GDP growth."[5]

Thanks G.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 27, 2016

Better hide your Hillary stickers and lawn signs, ISIS doesn't like women.

I like to see a president show a little patriotism. If she can't wear her own country's flag, then who's flag would she wear?   

I haven't seen her in a skirt or dress lately, have you?

"I like to see a president show a little patriotism."

But how does that translate into having a President that has a great working relationship with Congress so the business of the people will get done? Will wearing a lapel pin convince Paul Ryan to tell his people to do whatever the President wants?

"If she can't wear her own country's flag, then who's flag would she wear?"

Sounds like you never wore a suit jacket; there is a hole in the lapel for pins. I've heard lots of reason why some people are not patriotic, but saying a woman not having a flag pin somewhere on their blouse is not patriotic is about as silly as not wearing one on a pajama top while you they sleep.

"I haven't seen her in a skirt or dress lately, have you?"

Sounds like you don't know what a suit jacket lapel is. Hint: it's not on legs.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 27, 2016

It will probably be something like this.

The rumors about problems with the machines are unfounded, don't believe them.

Security has been put in place... to prevent tampering.

Don't worry about double checking your votes. The machines cannot be rigged.

Remember, Al Gore won the popular vote over Bush by 3 million and still lost the election. Don't let that happen this year.

Gore a Democrat, protested and took it all the way to the Supreme court. But Hillary and the media want Trump to just accept the results if he loses a close election. What a bunch of hypocrites!!!

US Flag Trump 2016

I'm not understanding the logic behind claiming rigged voting because Republican control the majority of the counties in the U.S.

"Gore a Democrat, protested and took it all the way to the Supreme court."

Does Federal Court cases like "Bush v Palm Beach County Canvassing Board" or "Bush v Gore" sound like Gore was doing the protesting? 

Seriously, I understand political passion, by why are you misleading people by distorting the facts?

"if he loses a close election."

What's your definition of a close election?

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

All I can say, is vote like your life, and those of your loved ones depend on it!

                                          BECAUSE IT DOES!!!!!

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Hillbag uses small venues because nobody shows up at her "rallies".

noise-gate

So if l read your post correctly: Electing Trump means there will be no WW111- but if you elect Hillary it is? Didn't Trump not say not to long ago that he would use nukes against Isis? You use nukes you open the door to much worse. 

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 27, 2016

So if l read your post correctly: Electing Trump means there will be no WW111- but if you elect Hillary it is? Didn't Trump not say not to long ago that he would use nukes against Isis? You use nukes you open the door to much worse. 

You can choose to take his comments (out of context) and compare to Hillary's actions, which I have, and yes, he's the better candidate of the two.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Stack,

You've proved that your a phony. You say that you were drafted and sent to 'Nam yet you didn't know draftee serial numbers had a US prefix. 

Now suddenly you remember stating your serial number when you got paid. 

I guess you never had any escape and evasion courses or in case of capture it's name, rank and serial number. 

You didn't point out a thing on 6 on a radio, only your own ignorance. 

You're a make believe low life and have no credibility anymore.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

For the Hillary supporters;

Liar liar pants on fire

Trump supporters will enjoy it too!

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 27, 2016

"I like to see a president show a little patriotism."

But how does that translate into having a President that has a great working relationship with Congress so the business of the people will get done? Will wearing a lapel pin convince Paul Ryan to tell his people to do whatever the President wants?

"If she can't wear her own country's flag, then who's flag would she wear?"

Sounds like you never wore a suit jacket; there is a hole in the lapel for pins. I've heard lots of reason why some people are not patriotic, but saying a woman not having a flag pin somewhere on their blouse is not patriotic is about as silly as not wearing one on a pajama top while you they sleep.

"I haven't seen her in a skirt or dress lately, have you?"

Sounds like you don't know what a suit jacket lapel is. Hint: it's not on legs.

You asked earlier,   Do you expect her to dress like a man? 

"I haven't seen her in a skirt or dress lately, have you? This is becoming a total waste of time. I've got better things to do. C-ya.  See Ya!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 27, 2016

For the Hillary supporters;

Liar liar pants on fire

Trump supporters will enjoy it too!

Absolutely awesome!

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Most voters (including Hillary supporters) see media bias against Trump...

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-gfk-poll-most-voters-believe-media-biased-202414009--election.html

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 27, 2016

You can choose to take his comments (out of context) and compare to Hillary's actions, which I have, and yes, he's the better candidate of the two.

l am not choosing to take his words out of context- its what he says. If his slogan says " Make America Great Again"- it implies Only he can do it, not her. If he says electing Hillary will lead us to WW3- what is the alternative? Him, leading us away from WW3... its speech that implies. When he stood up to Jeb and said " Yeah Jeb, you tough, you real tough"- what was he selling? The idea that Jeb is weak and he is not. Do you not see? l looked at the video that was posted, some guy said Trump will bring Peace On Earth if he is elected,on hearing that l almost threw up in my mouth. Was it not him that said this country as well as that country should have nukes.Talk like that does not convince me or others that this is a peaceful guy no matter what some may say. As for him being the better candidate of the two,come election day we will find out whether the American voters agree with you or not.

As always : an Opinion.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

NVM

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 28, 2016

NVM

Maybe CNN thinks he has a running mate named Yoder now?

Green laugh

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 27, 2016

Black people are voting for Hillary!

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-florida-black-voters-228822

The Democratic Party decided they would rather want a "historic moment" rather than a candidate who could actuallywin against Trump. A Trump win in 2016 will result in big Democratic pick ups in later elections, but if Hillary wins, the map in 2020 will look more like 1984 than anything else.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 27, 2016

For the Hillary supporters;

Liar liar pants on fire

Trump supporters will enjoy it too!

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 28, 2016

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-florida-black-voters-228822

The Democratic Party decided they would rather want a "historic moment" rather than a candidate who could actuallywin against Trump. A Trump win in 2016 will result in big Democratic pick ups in later elections, but if Hillary wins, the map in 2020 will look more like 1984 than anything else.

1984....."Winston loves big brother"

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 27, 2016

For the Hillary supporters;

Liar liar pants on fire

Trump supporters will enjoy it too!

Thanks Coin Lovies

Vergie6

I wonder how many "dead people" will be voting "again" this year!

bigbear29

King, Hillary is getting more of the Black, Asian and Hispanic votes which will possibly put Hillary over the top.  I did not see a map of 2020, but Hillary will have to do a lot to keep Black, Hispanic and Asian votes apart of the democratic party in the future.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Vergie6 on Oct 28, 2016

I wonder how many "dead people" will be voting "again" this year!

I've been wondering that myself.

Funny when people die, they become DemoncRats.

bigbear29

Why Republicans Focus on Voter Fraud in the US:

Republicans tend to believe that individual voter fraud is a problem and favor restrictive voter laws, such as voter ID laws.

Republicans will tell you that individual voter fraud runs rampant in the US with millions fraudulent voters trying to cast their ballot for Democrats. The truth is the voter fraud statistics say it is essentially nonexistent at an individual level. Furthermore groups like ACORN have had almost no reported incidents of voter fraud, while they have help millions of voters cast their ballot.

If individual voter fraud isn’t an issue then why does the GOP insist that it is. The answer is twofold:

1. People who have issues getting their vote cast do to mobility, identification, work schedules and economic standing are disproportionately voters who will vote for the Democratic party.

2. A basic manipulation tactic is to accuse your opponent of the exact thing that you are doing, so when you get accused of that thing yourself it doesn’t seem that drastic.

Republican Voter Fraud History

Republicans know that when everyone votes they lose. In fact the less people who vote the higher chances they have of winning. The Republican party may not have the numbers, but they most certainly have the money. A large majority of money from Big Business is funneled to Republican candidates in order to ensure victory, which obviously gives them sway with our government. Given the hundreds of millions of dollars spent each year on the Republican party it is in the interest of many of Americas most powerful to ensure that the vote goes to the Republicans. Yet as mentioned before this can only be accomplished through a few means and one of the most important is the vote.

The Republican Election Strategy

The Republican election strategy is involves smearing the competition, accusing them of voter fraud and then using groups the disenfranchise voters.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

I voted yesterday.

I had to show my ID.

What? My ID???

I've lived here for 18 years!!!

The horror!

I'm disenfranchised!!!

No, not disenfranchised. Just common sense. So, they know I am who I say I am.

I am glad I had to show my ID. Just common sense.

And they do NOT turn away people that don't have ID.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by Vergie6 on Oct 28, 2016

I wonder how many "dead people" will be voting "again" this year!

V6:

Not enough "dead people" we hope Drats will RIP.....maby??? Hopefully !!!

See you at the voting polls...let's win this lottery...for "BIG" CHANGE !!!     

                                  US Flag White Bounce US Flag

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 28, 2016

Hillary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI

Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op7PKNCH65A

The same exact person, two masks.

People who write and sing parodies do that. Ever heard of Al Yankovic?

You know what they say about those who can't take a joke.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Vergie6 on Oct 28, 2016

I wonder how many "dead people" will be voting "again" this year!

Tom Purcell: Dead people are voting;

Dead people are voting

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

 Hillary back under BIG INVESTIGATION ?????????????????????  Thud

  Bat  Beaver  OCTOBER SURPRISE  Bat Bat

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Oct 28, 2016

 Hillary back under BIG INVESTIGATION ?????????????????????  Thud

  Bat  Beaver  OCTOBER SURPRISE  Bat Bat

     ?????? "DO YOU THINK IT's FAIR ??????

                   "Why now LORD"

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Fair, I think it's righteous........

RL

dr65's avatardr65

Red Eyes Trick or Treat Red Eyes

 

God willing she gets the tricks and we get the treats.

It's time.

She doesn't get off...any investigation that is re-opened is nothing but good news.

She's filthy. 

She's a liar.

She's a thief.

She's rotten for this country.

She knew it and hoped everyone else wouldn't find out. 

Guilty.

Don't pass go.

Go directly to jail.

dr65's avatardr65

Donald Trump will win according to this man..

https://youtu.be/YdHA8CFh2ZI

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 28, 2016

l am not choosing to take his words out of context- its what he says. If his slogan says " Make America Great Again"- it implies Only he can do it, not her. If he says electing Hillary will lead us to WW3- what is the alternative? Him, leading us away from WW3... its speech that implies. When he stood up to Jeb and said " Yeah Jeb, you tough, you real tough"- what was he selling? The idea that Jeb is weak and he is not. Do you not see? l looked at the video that was posted, some guy said Trump will bring Peace On Earth if he is elected,on hearing that l almost threw up in my mouth. Was it not him that said this country as well as that country should have nukes.Talk like that does not convince me or others that this is a peaceful guy no matter what some may say. As for him being the better candidate of the two,come election day we will find out whether the American voters agree with you or not.

As always : an Opinion.

Cast your vote and shut your condescending big mouth. 

What's that closing line you attach to the bottom of your posts? As always: an Opinion. No shyt Sherlock.

Most here tend not to agree with your opinions and see through your coming in here like a lamb and attacking/fanning

everyone like a lion. If Hillary doesn't make you crap your pants and vomit in your mouth then there is something 

seriously wrong with you. That's quite evident every time you come in here though. Cut the crap, vote for who you

want and why don't you stop acting polite? You're anything but polite. Your discussions and opinions are anything but

friendly. They are posted with the intent to disrupt and unsettle anyone that takes the bait. 

Clinton is money and power. That's it. That's all she's concerned about is how to get more and how to be more powerful.

You do not shoot your big mouth off to Russia. They aren't one of her women hating tiny countries she rules over. They

aren't her mindless staff who are afraid to look at her, make her angry or disagree with her and they aren't the blind 

supporters who are shaking pom-poms and yelling Hillary every time she makes a speech to them...they don't know

what evil they're following. Russia isn't a pansy and what they deserve is respect in the PROPER perspective. They

are a country who does not want to see their people destroyed by nuclear war. Hillary wants nuclear war to show she's

the almighty leader. With an ego as big as hers, there is no capping it. She doesn't care about us and she doesn't care

about you.

So vote for Hillary. Who really cares noise-gate? She's going to lose and even if she doesn't her behind will be wretched

out of office and she will be put in jail. Let's shake some pom-poms for that major victory!! Hurray! 

 

GO TRUMP!!!!

US Flag

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 28, 2016

Well, the FBI is rebuilding its backbone..

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/28/politics/fbi-reviewing-new-emails-in-clinton-probe-director-tells-senate-judiciary-committee/index.html

          Hurray!   YAY!!!!     IT'S ABOUT TIME....

dr65's avatardr65

lol WTG Matt Lauer...

https://youtu.be/3jrmlY1NBSA

bigbear29

Strong economic news undercuts Trump’s doom-and-gloom message:

Friday's report boldly contradicts Trump's claim the country is 'dying at 1 percent GDP.'

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/us-economy-2016-third-quarter-trump-230441#ixzz4OPXOlMgm
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

The U.S. economy grew at a nearly 3 percent pace in the third quarter of the year, a better-than-expected reading that dents Donald Trump’s case that growth has stalled out.

The faster pace of 2.9 percent may not hold up in the final quarter of 2016 but it offers a positive headline to Hillary Clinton less than two weeks until Election Day, with Trump struggling to erase the Democratic nominee’s lead in national and swing state polls and largely unable to make the race a referendum on a sluggish economy.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/us-economy-2016-third-quarter-trump-230441#ixzz4OPXhEl6D
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

“This is still another reason why Trump will probably lose. The economy is in decent shape — so decent that the Fed will have to raise interest rates later this year,” said Greg Valliere, chief global strategist at Horizon Investments. “This report shows a solid economy with — ironically — decent export growth. Hillary Clinton simply has to avoid gloating. But this is a big plus for her, and she may get another pleasant surprise when the October jobs report is released next Friday.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/us-economy-2016-third-quarter-trump-230441#ixzz4OPXvK4AY
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

“This is still another reason why Trump will probably lose. The economy is in decent shape — so decent that the Fed will have to raise interest rates later this year,” said Greg Valliere, chief global strategist at Horizon Investments. “This report shows a solid economy with — ironically — decent export growth. Hillary Clinton simply has to avoid gloating. But this is a big plus for her, and she may get another pleasant surprise when the October jobs report is released next Friday.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/us-economy-2016-third-quarter-trump-230441#ixzz4OPXvK4AY
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

“This is still another reason why Trump will probably lose. The economy is in decent shape — so decent that the Fed will have to raise interest rates later this year,” said Greg Valliere, chief global strategist at Horizon Investments. “This report shows a solid economy with — ironically — decent export growth. Hillary Clinton simply has to avoid gloating. But this is a big plus for her, and she may get another pleasant surprise when the October jobs report is released next Friday.”

The initial reading from the government on third quarter growth, which is subject to multiple revisions in the months ahead, comes after Trump spent portions of the campaign ripping the U.S. economy as a complete disaster. “Right now our country is dying at 1 percent GDP,” the GOP nominee said during the third debate.

Friday’s report will take that talking point away from him. It showed increases in exports, personal consumption, federal government spending and other factors lifting sluggish growth from earlier in the year.

“This shows that the U.S. is roughly on track. It’s a natural bounce back following a pretty underwhelming year so far,” Luke Bartholomew, fixed income investment manager at Aberdeen Asset Management, wrote in a note to clients Friday morning

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 28, 2016

Cast your vote and shut your condescending big mouth. 

What's that closing line you attach to the bottom of your posts? As always: an Opinion. No shyt Sherlock.

Most here tend not to agree with your opinions and see through your coming in here like a lamb and attacking/fanning

everyone like a lion. If Hillary doesn't make you crap your pants and vomit in your mouth then there is something 

seriously wrong with you. That's quite evident every time you come in here though. Cut the crap, vote for who you

want and why don't you stop acting polite? You're anything but polite. Your discussions and opinions are anything but

friendly. They are posted with the intent to disrupt and unsettle anyone that takes the bait. 

Clinton is money and power. That's it. That's all she's concerned about is how to get more and how to be more powerful.

You do not shoot your big mouth off to Russia. They aren't one of her women hating tiny countries she rules over. They

aren't her mindless staff who are afraid to look at her, make her angry or disagree with her and they aren't the blind 

supporters who are shaking pom-poms and yelling Hillary every time she makes a speech to them...they don't know

what evil they're following. Russia isn't a pansy and what they deserve is respect in the PROPER perspective. They

are a country who does not want to see their people destroyed by nuclear war. Hillary wants nuclear war to show she's

the almighty leader. With an ego as big as hers, there is no capping it. She doesn't care about us and she doesn't care

about you.

So vote for Hillary. Who really cares noise-gate? She's going to lose and even if she doesn't her behind will be wretched

out of office and she will be put in jail. Let's shake some pom-poms for that major victory!! Hurray! 

 

GO TRUMP!!!!

US Flag

l am polite- just because you can't see it is not my fault. Why are  you attacking my politeness?You need to visit a shrink to overcome your anger issues,  and you do have them. Just take one look at your " Hillary will start war, Hillary in prison." Where was your voice when no WMD'S were found and Americans were coming back in bodybags?We're you out there railing against the lies? I have an opinion and l use it. You should exercise your right to ignore me before l start thinking that I am inside your head. For  someone who brags - l would have thought you would be more emotionally balanced. Oh well.Tell you what,  when you get some free time away from your tinkering with your toys- ask yourself why is it that many Republicans in the intelligence community are backing Hillary Clinton for President - is it because they are looking forward to another war? It's a Yes or No answer. 

LottoAce's avatarLottoAce

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 28, 2016

l am polite- just because you can't see it is not my fault. Why are  you attacking my politeness?You need to visit a shrink to overcome your anger issues,  and you do have them. Just take one look at your " Hillary will start war, Hillary in prison." Where was your voice when no WMD'S were found and Americans were coming back in bodybags?We're you out there railing against the lies? I have an opinion and l use it. You should exercise your right to ignore me before l start thinking that I am inside your head. For  someone who brags - l would have thought you would be more emotionally balanced. Oh well.Tell you what,  when you get some free time away from your tinkering with your toys- ask yourself why is it that many Republicans in the intelligence community are backing Hillary Clinton for President - is it because they are looking forward to another war? It's a Yes or No answer. 

I doubt that anyone in the intelligence community is backing Hillary Clinton.
furthermore no one with any real intelligence is backing Trump.

either one of them will destroy the ideals of our Fathers and Mothers.
and destroy the land for our sons and daughters.

for the first time I am afraid for my country.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LottoAce on Oct 28, 2016

I doubt that anyone in the intelligence community is backing Hillary Clinton.
furthermore no one with any real intelligence is backing Trump.

either one of them will destroy the ideals of our Fathers and Mothers.
and destroy the land for our sons and daughters.

for the first time I am afraid for my country.

Doubting is a choice. Google the topic, you might just discover something new.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 27, 2016

Stack,

You've proved that your a phony. You say that you were drafted and sent to 'Nam yet you didn't know draftee serial numbers had a US prefix. 

Now suddenly you remember stating your serial number when you got paid. 

I guess you never had any escape and evasion courses or in case of capture it's name, rank and serial number. 

You didn't point out a thing on 6 on a radio, only your own ignorance. 

You're a make believe low life and have no credibility anymore.

"You've proved that your a phony."

I proved you're probably suffering from early stages of dementia.

"I guess you never had any escape and evasion courses or in case of capture it's name, rank and serial number."

It's called the "Code of Conduct" and Article V addressed requirements. I still have the card I got from the 1st Division judge advocate. If you think you're BS about Marine DIs and draftees means something, tell it to the families of draftees on the Wall.

It's really stupid for you to even bring up the Military Code of Conduct considering your hero Trump said "I like people who weren’t captured."

"You didn't point out a thing on 6 on a radio, only your own ignorance."

Don't be stupid, I was talking about how the number 6 has multiple uses in the military. Didn't your jump master warn you about landing on your head?

"You're a make believe low life and have no credibility anymore."

LMAO! More lame childish insults from another Trump supporters. Thanks for proving Clinton when she said "half of Trump supporters belong in the "deplorible basket". And an excellent example why Trump "loves the poorly educated".

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 28, 2016

Red Eyes Trick or Treat Red Eyes

 

God willing she gets the tricks and we get the treats.

It's time.

She doesn't get off...any investigation that is re-opened is nothing but good news.

She's filthy. 

She's a liar.

She's a thief.

She's rotten for this country.

She knew it and hoped everyone else wouldn't find out. 

Guilty.

Don't pass go.

Go directly to jail.

Don't get your hopes up that the reopened FBI investigation will convict her of anything.  They just needed a few

weeks to come up with some sort of "slap on the wrist" offence.    The emails implicate Obama and we all know

how that will wind up.  The fox is guarding the hen house so to say.   I think it should be decided by the people

but I guess that's what congress is for, "wait",  it should be decided by rule of law.  Guilty or not Guilty?  We all

know the answer.  What I find hard to believe is that so many are willing to vote for a criminal.   Shows how low

people have sunk in this country.   If her rap sheet was not as long as Santa's list I might be able to see past it

but she has been a crook so long I doubt she can be rehabilitated.   Obama is giving out pardons like candy at a

Christmas parade.   The bible says when the people are wicked and won't repent he will give them wicked rulers.

Lets hope a bunch of people will repent in the next few days.    Hilda's campaign logo, guilty as sin, come on in?

RL

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LottoAce on Oct 28, 2016

I doubt that anyone in the intelligence community is backing Hillary Clinton.
furthermore no one with any real intelligence is backing Trump.

either one of them will destroy the ideals of our Fathers and Mothers.
and destroy the land for our sons and daughters.

for the first time I am afraid for my country.

"furthermore no one with any real intelligence is backing Trump."

Trump said that back on February 24, 2016 and most of his supporters are going out of their way to prove why he loves them.

"either one of them will destroy the ideals of our Fathers and Mothers. and destroy the land for our sons and daughters."

Could you elaborate mone on that because even with all the problems our country faced throughout our history, none of them destroyed American ideals or the model set in the Preamble. 

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

sully16's avatarsully16

Why is Bill Clinton Happy?

Cause it isn't his weiner that's bringing Hildabeast down.

Thanks Anthony Weiner.

Blahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Hillary for prison 2016.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 28, 2016

Why is Bill Clinton Happy?

Cause it isn't his weiner that's bringing Hildabeast down.

Thanks Anthony Weiner.

Blahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Hillary for prison 2016.

I Agree!   Ditto, Sully, Ditto.  Hillary for Prison 2016

I voted TRUMP TODAY.  Take back America US Flag

LottoAce's avatarLottoAce

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 28, 2016

Doubting is a choice. Google the topic, you might just discover something new.

yes sir, it is.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by LottoAce on Oct 28, 2016

I doubt that anyone in the intelligence community is backing Hillary Clinton.
furthermore no one with any real intelligence is backing Trump.

either one of them will destroy the ideals of our Fathers and Mothers.
and destroy the land for our sons and daughters.

for the first time I am afraid for my country.

I'm an intelligent man and I'm voting for Trump.  What exactly are the ideals of our Fathers and Mothers?

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by LottoAce on Oct 28, 2016

I doubt that anyone in the intelligence community is backing Hillary Clinton.
furthermore no one with any real intelligence is backing Trump.

either one of them will destroy the ideals of our Fathers and Mothers.
and destroy the land for our sons and daughters.

for the first time I am afraid for my country.

Do you even understand what you are saying? How is creating jobs going to destroy the ideas of your father and mother? A strong nation with borders and civility is not a recipe for destroying the land.

Are you afraid to even go out at night by yourself? Sounds to me you are really confused about what constitutes an ideal country.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 28, 2016

Don't get your hopes up that the reopened FBI investigation will convict her of anything.  They just needed a few

weeks to come up with some sort of "slap on the wrist" offence.    The emails implicate Obama and we all know

how that will wind up.  The fox is guarding the hen house so to say.   I think it should be decided by the people

but I guess that's what congress is for, "wait",  it should be decided by rule of law.  Guilty or not Guilty?  We all

know the answer.  What I find hard to believe is that so many are willing to vote for a criminal.   Shows how low

people have sunk in this country.   If her rap sheet was not as long as Santa's list I might be able to see past it

but she has been a crook so long I doubt she can be rehabilitated.   Obama is giving out pardons like candy at a

Christmas parade.   The bible says when the people are wicked and won't repent he will give them wicked rulers.

Lets hope a bunch of people will repent in the next few days.    Hilda's campaign logo, guilty as sin, come on in?

RL

I'm hoping RL. There is too much steam now. Too many things coming out and they can subdue an angry 

mob just so long. There are a lot of people angry. Someone with some guts who isn't bought needs to keep

at this thing. If she is allowed to get away with all she has so far and much more if she is elected, this country

is doomed. There is already enough evidence, which supporters are okay forgetting because the FBI said they

don't recommend charges, to put her away just like they are going to do to General Cartwright. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2016/10/18/general-cartwright-is-paying-the-price-for-hillary-clintons-sins/?utm_term=.fa31bcb2c1e0

Vergie6

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 28, 2016

          Hurray!   YAY!!!!     IT'S ABOUT TIME....

They were shamed into doing it!

I hope she gets what's coming to her but you all know how much she's already gotten away with so don't hold your breath!

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by Vergie6 on Oct 28, 2016

They were shamed into doing it!

I hope she gets what's coming to her but you all know how much she's already gotten away with so don't hold your breath!

We all hope there is law and order but unfortunately nothing will happen to her as long as Obama is still in office.

It boils my blood at all the incriminating evidence they have on her and yet they keep sweeping it under the rug. Corruption in this country has reached an all time high.

LottoAce's avatarLottoAce

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 28, 2016

"furthermore no one with any real intelligence is backing Trump."

Trump said that back on February 24, 2016 and most of his supporters are going out of their way to prove why he loves them.

"either one of them will destroy the ideals of our Fathers and Mothers. and destroy the land for our sons and daughters."

Could you elaborate mone on that because even with all the problems our country faced throughout our history, none of them destroyed American ideals or the model set in the Preamble. 

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

"Could you elaborate mone on that because even with all the problems our country faced throughout our history, none of them destroyed American ideals or the model set in the Preamble."

no, they did not.

the preamble. a friend at work kept repeating it to me, untill I learned it by memory.
I think he did that in order to get me to follow politics again and vote. to believe in something.

I am not here to bash anyones political beliefs.
with that being said.

I will try and elaborate a little Stack.
I won't bore you with all the details of "he lied, she stole, he cheated, she plagerized" etc...
I will try and get to the point.
however if you continue reading our constitution you will find the first ten admentments.
aka "the bill of rights".
the same portion of our constitution that Hilliary Clinton swares not to defend, but to
evaluate and modify. thank goodness for our fore fathers wisdom to incorporate
a clause that states in order to amend the constitution Hilliary Clinton will need
a two thirds congressional support for her to abolish the bill of rights.
if she suceeds. its going to be hell in this country.
it would be unwise of me to speculate here on what I believe will be the
next course of events that will follow the "tweeking" of the bill of rights,
a nation wide civil crisis would be an extreme understatement.
I want no part of it.
theres no way I'm voting for her.

Trump, all I need to say about him is that his own Political
Party turned thier back on him. and the very fact that they even
backed this clown for president will cost the GOP some hard times down the road.
don't get me wrong. I think he is a brilliant buisiness man. but he is not a politician.
his style of leadership can not and will not work without establishing
a Monarchy.
He can't bully congress, and just fire them on the spot, this is not one of
his. (not so real) "reality shows". very little will get done.
I believe his actions and statements are not only offensive. but are
in most cases cruel, ignorant and childish.
He is indeed, unfit and unqualified to be the leader of the free world.

so. I have decided not to vote.
but I support your right Stack47 and everyone elses right in America to vote for who ever
they see fit.

I have enjoyed reading this forum. it has certainly made me see what you all think
is important. there were a few cheap shots thrown along the way, but mostly it has
been informative.
I am sure whatever results this election brings.
my cost of living will go up. my taxes will remain the same.
my income will not increase enough to offset inflation.
and I will continue to struggle just like I always have.

just my 2 cents.

LottoAce's avatarLottoAce

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 28, 2016

I'm an intelligent man and I'm voting for Trump.  What exactly are the ideals of our Fathers and Mothers?

I don't have to tell you. you know already.
beside the fact that you told me in a previous post not to lecture you
on the constitution. so I will respect your request and
will reframe from doing so.

LottoAce's avatarLottoAce

Quote: Originally posted by Unluckyone on Oct 28, 2016

Do you even understand what you are saying? How is creating jobs going to destroy the ideas of your father and mother? A strong nation with borders and civility is not a recipe for destroying the land.

Are you afraid to even go out at night by yourself? Sounds to me you are really confused about what constitutes an ideal country.

"Sounds to me you are really confused about what constitutes an ideal country"

no I don't know, neither do any of us. there is no utopea over the mountain
ridge, no second star to the right, no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
"Hope and Change" my rump...

I am a realist.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 28, 2016

King, Hillary is getting more of the Black, Asian and Hispanic votes which will possibly put Hillary over the top.  I did not see a map of 2020, but Hillary will have to do a lot to keep Black, Hispanic and Asian votes apart of the democratic party in the future.

You already want her in 2020? 

If she wins this time around the country we know now will not exist in 2020.

Bang Head

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Vergie6 on Oct 28, 2016

They were shamed into doing it!

I hope she gets what's coming to her but you all know how much she's already gotten away with so don't hold your breath!

I believe they were and they had to save face, somehow.

It's got to be extremely irritating to wonder what will be released next.

Trump is correct about rigging...it has nothing to do with country...it has everything to do with dignity and honor

AS A COUNTRY.

Shady elections, bogus results were always something we read about somewhere  else.  Do any of you really believe

it's all in Trump's head...that he's acting like a child having a temper tantrum without grounds? I wouldn't call it a 

temper tantrum or that he's behaving like a child...it's an honest concern. Hillary has not received 1/10th the bad

publicity that Trump has and who is the bigger problem? It's Hillary because if she could totally botch her job as

Secretary of State and not remember or know what she was doing, then she is unfit to take on a much bigger job

and responsibility as President. If she can take questionable donations from countries she tries to distance herself

from on human rights issues by not bringing them up at all...then what is her policy going to be regarding her largest

donors to the Clinton Foundation? Special favors and treatment. She owes these countries and for as much as her

head is big with the thought of power, wealth and control, she owes someone and that's shady in itself. $25 million

from Saudi Arabia is equal to a lot of push...a lot of favor and a lot of corruption. And that's just SA, she's pretty much

spread out over the region.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 28, 2016

"You've proved that your a phony."

I proved you're probably suffering from early stages of dementia.

"I guess you never had any escape and evasion courses or in case of capture it's name, rank and serial number."

It's called the "Code of Conduct" and Article V addressed requirements. I still have the card I got from the 1st Division judge advocate. If you think you're BS about Marine DIs and draftees means something, tell it to the families of draftees on the Wall.

It's really stupid for you to even bring up the Military Code of Conduct considering your hero Trump said "I like people who weren’t captured."

"You didn't point out a thing on 6 on a radio, only your own ignorance."

Don't be stupid, I was talking about how the number 6 has multiple uses in the military. Didn't your jump master warn you about landing on your head?

"You're a make believe low life and have no credibility anymore."

LMAO! More lame childish insults from another Trump supporters. Thanks for proving Clinton when she said "half of Trump supporters belong in the "deplorible basket". And an excellent example why Trump "loves the poorly educated".

The only think you've proved is that your a liar and a fake. 

You even suck at trying to save erroneous statements you've made.

By the way I'm still waiting for you to tell me how many chips a Faro player got for a $200 buy in.

dr65's avatardr65

New emails found, numbering in the thousands, from devices the FBI seized from Weiner, Adedin.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 28, 2016

Don't get your hopes up that the reopened FBI investigation will convict her of anything.  They just needed a few

weeks to come up with some sort of "slap on the wrist" offence.    The emails implicate Obama and we all know

how that will wind up.  The fox is guarding the hen house so to say.   I think it should be decided by the people

but I guess that's what congress is for, "wait",  it should be decided by rule of law.  Guilty or not Guilty?  We all

know the answer.  What I find hard to believe is that so many are willing to vote for a criminal.   Shows how low

people have sunk in this country.   If her rap sheet was not as long as Santa's list I might be able to see past it

but she has been a crook so long I doubt she can be rehabilitated.   Obama is giving out pardons like candy at a

Christmas parade.   The bible says when the people are wicked and won't repent he will give them wicked rulers.

Lets hope a bunch of people will repent in the next few days.    Hilda's campaign logo, guilty as sin, come on in?

RL

    Obama isn't going to do anything.. all he is doing is counting the days left in office... He can't wait till he washes his hands of this whole mess so him and Michelle can get out of the White House... he's just a real whimp....

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 28, 2016

New emails found, numbering in the thousands, from devices the FBI seized from Weiner, Adedin.

And now Hillary's camp is accusing Comey of "interfering" in the election! WTH!!!! Is the FBI supposed to turn a blind eye to criminal activity, just because the POS is running for Prez?

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/28/doj-complaint-filed-fbi-director-james-comey-interfering-presidential-election.html

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

The wife found this and I thought I would post.

By Andy.

Hillary Clinton goes to a gifted-student primary school in New York to talk about the world. After her talk she offers

to answer questions from the kids.  One little boy puts up his hand. Hillary asks him what his name is.  "Kenny," he

says.  "And what is your question, Kenny?" she asks.  "I have three questions," he says. "First -- what happened in

Benghazi?  "Second -- why would you run for president if you are not capable of handling two e-mail accounts? "Third

what happened to that six billion dollars that went missing while you were Secretary of State?”

Just then the bell rings for recess.  Hillary tells the students that they will continue after recess. When they resume

Hillary says,  "Okay, where were we? Oh, that's right, question time. Who has a question?” A different boy -- little Johnny

puts his hand up.  Hillary points to him and asks him what his name is.  "Johnny," he says.  "What is your question, Johnny?"

she asks.  "I have five questions," he says. "First -- what happened in Benghazi? "Second -- why would you run for president

if you are not capable of handling two e-mail accounts? "Third -- whatever happened to that six billion dollars that went

missing while you were Secretary of State? "Fourth -- why did the recess bell go off 21 minutes early? "  And, fifth -- where's

Kenny?”

RL

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 28, 2016

The wife found this and I thought I would post.

By Andy.

Hillary Clinton goes to a gifted-student primary school in New York to talk about the world. After her talk she offers

to answer questions from the kids.  One little boy puts up his hand. Hillary asks him what his name is.  "Kenny," he

says.  "And what is your question, Kenny?" she asks.  "I have three questions," he says. "First -- what happened in

Benghazi?  "Second -- why would you run for president if you are not capable of handling two e-mail accounts? "Third

what happened to that six billion dollars that went missing while you were Secretary of State?”

Just then the bell rings for recess.  Hillary tells the students that they will continue after recess. When they resume

Hillary says,  "Okay, where were we? Oh, that's right, question time. Who has a question?” A different boy -- little Johnny

puts his hand up.  Hillary points to him and asks him what his name is.  "Johnny," he says.  "What is your question, Johnny?"

she asks.  "I have five questions," he says. "First -- what happened in Benghazi? "Second -- why would you run for president

if you are not capable of handling two e-mail accounts? "Third -- whatever happened to that six billion dollars that went

missing while you were Secretary of State? "Fourth -- why did the recess bell go off 21 minutes early? "  And, fifth -- where's

Kenny?”

RL

    OMG!!!! that is sooo funny... maybe we will hear something in the news about what happened to Kenny... thanks RL

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 28, 2016

    OMG!!!! that is sooo funny... maybe we will hear something in the news about what happened to Kenny... thanks RL

He committed suicide by climbing up a dresser and it fell on him.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 28, 2016

The wife found this and I thought I would post.

By Andy.

Hillary Clinton goes to a gifted-student primary school in New York to talk about the world. After her talk she offers

to answer questions from the kids.  One little boy puts up his hand. Hillary asks him what his name is.  "Kenny," he

says.  "And what is your question, Kenny?" she asks.  "I have three questions," he says. "First -- what happened in

Benghazi?  "Second -- why would you run for president if you are not capable of handling two e-mail accounts? "Third

what happened to that six billion dollars that went missing while you were Secretary of State?”

Just then the bell rings for recess.  Hillary tells the students that they will continue after recess. When they resume

Hillary says,  "Okay, where were we? Oh, that's right, question time. Who has a question?” A different boy -- little Johnny

puts his hand up.  Hillary points to him and asks him what his name is.  "Johnny," he says.  "What is your question, Johnny?"

she asks.  "I have five questions," he says. "First -- what happened in Benghazi? "Second -- why would you run for president

if you are not capable of handling two e-mail accounts? "Third -- whatever happened to that six billion dollars that went

missing while you were Secretary of State? "Fourth -- why did the recess bell go off 21 minutes early? "  And, fifth -- where's

Kenny?”

RL

lmao

LottoAce's avatarLottoAce

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 28, 2016

The wife found this and I thought I would post.

By Andy.

Hillary Clinton goes to a gifted-student primary school in New York to talk about the world. After her talk she offers

to answer questions from the kids.  One little boy puts up his hand. Hillary asks him what his name is.  "Kenny," he

says.  "And what is your question, Kenny?" she asks.  "I have three questions," he says. "First -- what happened in

Benghazi?  "Second -- why would you run for president if you are not capable of handling two e-mail accounts? "Third

what happened to that six billion dollars that went missing while you were Secretary of State?”

Just then the bell rings for recess.  Hillary tells the students that they will continue after recess. When they resume

Hillary says,  "Okay, where were we? Oh, that's right, question time. Who has a question?” A different boy -- little Johnny

puts his hand up.  Hillary points to him and asks him what his name is.  "Johnny," he says.  "What is your question, Johnny?"

she asks.  "I have five questions," he says. "First -- what happened in Benghazi? "Second -- why would you run for president

if you are not capable of handling two e-mail accounts? "Third -- whatever happened to that six billion dollars that went

missing while you were Secretary of State? "Fourth -- why did the recess bell go off 21 minutes early? "  And, fifth -- where's

Kenny?”

RL

too freaking funny~!! LMAO

I can imagine it now.

Hillary, "Kenny accidently shot himself in the back of the head!"
not to worry class...little Kenny will not have died in vain.
I will exploit his unfortunate "accident" with no regards to the victoms
family, to meet my own agenda, Gun Control!!. cause guns are bad!

unfreakin real!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LottoAce on Oct 28, 2016

"Could you elaborate mone on that because even with all the problems our country faced throughout our history, none of them destroyed American ideals or the model set in the Preamble."

no, they did not.

the preamble. a friend at work kept repeating it to me, untill I learned it by memory.
I think he did that in order to get me to follow politics again and vote. to believe in something.

I am not here to bash anyones political beliefs.
with that being said.

I will try and elaborate a little Stack.
I won't bore you with all the details of "he lied, she stole, he cheated, she plagerized" etc...
I will try and get to the point.
however if you continue reading our constitution you will find the first ten admentments.
aka "the bill of rights".
the same portion of our constitution that Hilliary Clinton swares not to defend, but to
evaluate and modify. thank goodness for our fore fathers wisdom to incorporate
a clause that states in order to amend the constitution Hilliary Clinton will need
a two thirds congressional support for her to abolish the bill of rights.
if she suceeds. its going to be hell in this country.
it would be unwise of me to speculate here on what I believe will be the
next course of events that will follow the "tweeking" of the bill of rights,
a nation wide civil crisis would be an extreme understatement.
I want no part of it.
theres no way I'm voting for her.

Trump, all I need to say about him is that his own Political
Party turned thier back on him. and the very fact that they even
backed this clown for president will cost the GOP some hard times down the road.
don't get me wrong. I think he is a brilliant buisiness man. but he is not a politician.
his style of leadership can not and will not work without establishing
a Monarchy.
He can't bully congress, and just fire them on the spot, this is not one of
his. (not so real) "reality shows". very little will get done.
I believe his actions and statements are not only offensive. but are
in most cases cruel, ignorant and childish.
He is indeed, unfit and unqualified to be the leader of the free world.

so. I have decided not to vote.
but I support your right Stack47 and everyone elses right in America to vote for who ever
they see fit.

I have enjoyed reading this forum. it has certainly made me see what you all think
is important. there were a few cheap shots thrown along the way, but mostly it has
been informative.
I am sure whatever results this election brings.
my cost of living will go up. my taxes will remain the same.
my income will not increase enough to offset inflation.
and I will continue to struggle just like I always have.

just my 2 cents.

Actually I was asking you to elaborate more on what you called "American ideals". In other words something you believe all of us could lose. 

"it would be unwise of me to speculate here on what I believe will be the next course of events that will follow the "tweeking" of the bill of rights,"

The Constitution was modified 17 times, but the Bill of Rights had no changes.

"I have enjoyed reading this forum. it has certainly made me see what you all think is important. there were a few cheap shots thrown along the way, but mostly it has been informative."

The cheap shots more or less reflect the campaigns in general. Hopefully things will change after the election and get back more important things like "annuity or cash", "anonymous or press conference" or "live ball draw or RNG".

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 28, 2016

The only think you've proved is that your a liar and a fake. 

You even suck at trying to save erroneous statements you've made.

By the way I'm still waiting for you to tell me how many chips a Faro player got for a $200 buy in.

The ramblings of someone obviously suffering from dementia.

"By the way I'm still waiting for you to tell me how many chips a Faro player got for a $200 buy in."

About the same as the many Depends to you go through every day?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 28, 2016

l am not choosing to take his words out of context- its what he says. If his slogan says " Make America Great Again"- it implies Only he can do it, not her. If he says electing Hillary will lead us to WW3- what is the alternative? Him, leading us away from WW3... its speech that implies. When he stood up to Jeb and said " Yeah Jeb, you tough, you real tough"- what was he selling? The idea that Jeb is weak and he is not. Do you not see? l looked at the video that was posted, some guy said Trump will bring Peace On Earth if he is elected,on hearing that l almost threw up in my mouth. Was it not him that said this country as well as that country should have nukes.Talk like that does not convince me or others that this is a peaceful guy no matter what some may say. As for him being the better candidate of the two,come election day we will find out whether the American voters agree with you or not.

As always : an Opinion.

"As always : an Opinion."

But the poorly educated Trump supporters believe their opinion is the only one that counts. They even believe the same polls that were correct in the last six presidential elections cycles are now magically wrong, it's the media's fault, and they will revolt even if Trump only gets 47% of the vote.

LottoAce's avatarLottoAce

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 28, 2016

Actually I was asking you to elaborate more on what you called "American ideals". In other words something you believe all of us could lose. 

"it would be unwise of me to speculate here on what I believe will be the next course of events that will follow the "tweeking" of the bill of rights,"

The Constitution was modified 17 times, but the Bill of Rights had no changes.

"I have enjoyed reading this forum. it has certainly made me see what you all think is important. there were a few cheap shots thrown along the way, but mostly it has been informative."

The cheap shots more or less reflect the campaigns in general. Hopefully things will change after the election and get back more important things like "annuity or cash", "anonymous or press conference" or "live ball draw or RNG".

you are correct. the bill of rights have never been changed.
I hope for all our sake they never will be.
my thoughts on American ideals probably are not the same
as many other Americans. with me its complicated.

I like the idea, of the site getting back to normal
did you sign the ball machine petition?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Michael Moore is voting for Trump, He says Trump's election will be the biggest F-you in history and it feels sooo good.

Coming from one of the biggest supporters of the Democrat party, says alot. 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Trey Gowdy for US attorney general

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 28, 2016

Trey Gowdy for US attorney general

I agree US Flag

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 28, 2016

He committed suicide by climbing up a dresser and it fell on him.

       LMAO... well it won't be the first or the last time we hear about something like this happening to people..

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 28, 2016

Trey Gowdy for US attorney general

    I'll take him any day....He has my vote.... he doesn't mess around with you he gets right to the point...

 

                                                US Flag

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 28, 2016

    I'll take him any day....He has my vote.... he doesn't mess around with you he gets right to the point...

 

                                                US Flag

I wish Mike Rowe would run for President;  nice looking, great speaking voice, very intelligent and seems to be honest. You know he's not afraid of hard work and getting his hands dirty and he's a champion of the American blue-collar worker.   His only drawback is that he once shilled stuff on the Home Shopping Network...but he was fired, so maybe that makes up for it.   Well, that and I'd miss his narration on "Deadliest Catch".

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 28, 2016

The ramblings of someone obviously suffering from dementia.

"By the way I'm still waiting for you to tell me how many chips a Faro player got for a $200 buy in."

About the same as the many Depends to you go through every day?

You are not capable of saying you just don't know, are you?

Some fount of knowledge you are.

You hear what you want to hear or what you think other people said and accuse them of saying things they didn't.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LottoAce on Oct 28, 2016

you are correct. the bill of rights have never been changed.
I hope for all our sake they never will be.
my thoughts on American ideals probably are not the same
as many other Americans. with me its complicated.

I like the idea, of the site getting back to normal
did you sign the ball machine petition?

Some people say the 2nd Amendment is under attack, but Tombstone had gun ordinances in the 1880s so it's not like that is a new idea and some gun ordinances are ruled unconstitutional by the courts.

Signed the petition a few years ago.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 28, 2016

The wife found this and I thought I would post.

By Andy.

Hillary Clinton goes to a gifted-student primary school in New York to talk about the world. After her talk she offers

to answer questions from the kids.  One little boy puts up his hand. Hillary asks him what his name is.  "Kenny," he

says.  "And what is your question, Kenny?" she asks.  "I have three questions," he says. "First -- what happened in

Benghazi?  "Second -- why would you run for president if you are not capable of handling two e-mail accounts? "Third

what happened to that six billion dollars that went missing while you were Secretary of State?”

Just then the bell rings for recess.  Hillary tells the students that they will continue after recess. When they resume

Hillary says,  "Okay, where were we? Oh, that's right, question time. Who has a question?” A different boy -- little Johnny

puts his hand up.  Hillary points to him and asks him what his name is.  "Johnny," he says.  "What is your question, Johnny?"

she asks.  "I have five questions," he says. "First -- what happened in Benghazi? "Second -- why would you run for president

if you are not capable of handling two e-mail accounts? "Third -- whatever happened to that six billion dollars that went

missing while you were Secretary of State? "Fourth -- why did the recess bell go off 21 minutes early? "  And, fifth -- where's

Kenny?”

RL

Excellent RL, this is definitely going to make the rounds.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 28, 2016

King, Hillary is getting more of the Black, Asian and Hispanic votes which will possibly put Hillary over the top.  I did not see a map of 2020, but Hillary will have to do a lot to keep Black, Hispanic and Asian votes apart of the democratic party in the future.

That's undeniable, the question is not which party but turnout. Trump supporters are EXTREMELY energized to get out and vote, and all I see on the Democratic side is people acting like the election is over and they don't need to worry and thus they aren't doing what they need to get Anti-Trump voters (especially minority voters) to go out and vote. 

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Alice Cooper for President!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 28, 2016

You are not capable of saying you just don't know, are you?

Some fount of knowledge you are.

You hear what you want to hear or what you think other people said and accuse them of saying things they didn't.

"You are not capable of saying you just don't know, are you?"

You're the king of useless information not me. Bet Joe Buck is your favorite baseball announcer.

"You hear what you want to hear or what you think other people said and accuse them of saying things they didn't."

You have me confused with the poorly educated Trump supporters. Why am barred from you blog?

Or did you forget that and the ten times you said you blocked my posts?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 28, 2016

I voted yesterday.

I had to show my ID.

What? My ID???

I've lived here for 18 years!!!

The horror!

I'm disenfranchised!!!

No, not disenfranchised. Just common sense. So, they know I am who I say I am.

I am glad I had to show my ID. Just common sense.

And they do NOT turn away people that don't have ID.

College ID's are accepted by the Texas Lottery

http://www.txlottery.org/export/sites/lottery/Winners/Claim_Your_Prize/

But NOT the Texas Board of "Elections"

http://www.votetexas.gov/register-to-vote/need-id/

If I went to a Texas college instead, I would have needed to bring my passport with me to vote before I got my Driver's License. Or I could always just buy a gun because clearly gun shows know their clients better than college officials know their students.

Common Sense involves no ID because reality is reality, Out of 10's of millions of votes, they couldn't even find 100 cases of fraud

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/03/voter-fraud-laws-gop-minority-voters-elections

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 29, 2016

"You are not capable of saying you just don't know, are you?"

You're the king of useless information not me. Bet Joe Buck is your favorite baseball announcer.

"You hear what you want to hear or what you think other people said and accuse them of saying things they didn't."

You have me confused with the poorly educated Trump supporters. Why am barred from you blog?

Or did you forget that and the ten times you said you blocked my posts?

I'm sure mine isn't the only bloq you're barred from. 

Yeah, I blocked your posts but occasionally read them. 

Always proves yo be a mistake though. 

You have the charisma of a dead skunk. 

Puke

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 29, 2016

That's undeniable, the question is not which party but turnout. Trump supporters are EXTREMELY energized to get out and vote, and all I see on the Democratic side is people acting like the election is over and they don't need to worry and thus they aren't doing what they need to get Anti-Trump voters (especially minority voters) to go out and vote. 

You're correct on voter turnout, but the Democrats never needed the anti-Trump Republican vote.

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president Hillary Clinton no matter what". I was remind of that when looking at Trump's polling performance compared to Romney's in 2012. Trump is currently way behind Romney who won 24 states.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 29, 2016

I'm sure mine isn't the only bloq you're barred from. 

Yeah, I blocked your posts but occasionally read them. 

Always proves yo be a mistake though. 

You have the charisma of a dead skunk. 

Puke

Drama, Drama, Drama.

Second childhood, dementia, or both?

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 29, 2016

I'm sure mine isn't the only bloq you're barred from. 

Yeah, I blocked your posts but occasionally read them. 

Always proves yo be a mistake though. 

You have the charisma of a dead skunk. 

Puke

Green laugh

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 29, 2016

Drama, Drama, Drama.

Second childhood, dementia, or both?

Just for you,

Dead skunk stinkin' to high heaven

The difference between you and the skunk is I feel sorry for the skunk. 

Green laugh

Now go bother someone else.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC
RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Watch this video and tell me if the smartest people are voting for Hilda.  It's as I said, tell the stupid people that

the smart ones are voting Hilda are the stupid ones will line up.   I guess it's not there fault after they are really,

really stupid.

Please watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG7gYNE-WWs

RL

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 29, 2016

College ID's are accepted by the Texas Lottery

http://www.txlottery.org/export/sites/lottery/Winners/Claim_Your_Prize/

But NOT the Texas Board of "Elections"

http://www.votetexas.gov/register-to-vote/need-id/

If I went to a Texas college instead, I would have needed to bring my passport with me to vote before I got my Driver's License. Or I could always just buy a gun because clearly gun shows know their clients better than college officials know their students.

Common Sense involves no ID because reality is reality, Out of 10's of millions of votes, they couldn't even find 100 cases of fraud

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/03/voter-fraud-laws-gop-minority-voters-elections

Sorry,

You are wrong, again.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 29, 2016

Sorry,

You are wrong, again.

What else is new?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 29, 2016

College ID's are accepted by the Texas Lottery

http://www.txlottery.org/export/sites/lottery/Winners/Claim_Your_Prize/

But NOT the Texas Board of "Elections"

http://www.votetexas.gov/register-to-vote/need-id/

If I went to a Texas college instead, I would have needed to bring my passport with me to vote before I got my Driver's License. Or I could always just buy a gun because clearly gun shows know their clients better than college officials know their students.

Common Sense involves no ID because reality is reality, Out of 10's of millions of votes, they couldn't even find 100 cases of fraud

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/03/voter-fraud-laws-gop-minority-voters-elections

I have to get ready for work, so I don't have time to type it all, so just Google Tx rules for voter ID. Many ways to get around it, but again, common sense says a person should have to prove they are registered to vote and that they are who they say they are. What's so hard about that? You gotta have an ID to drive a car.

Oh wait. You WANT voter fraud so it's easier for dead people to vote for Hillbag.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 23, 2016

Yes JAM......... Hillary just said>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Puke

 Release all my E-mails rite "NOW"

                                   White BounceWhite Bounce    OUR SHEEP must  know the TRUTH    White BounceWhite Bounce

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 28, 2016

Trey Gowdy for US attorney general

I Agree! We really need someone like Trey Gowdy to clean up the swamp in Washington.

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Oct 29, 2016

Yes JAM......... Hillary just said>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Puke

 Release all my E-mails rite "NOW"

                                   White BounceWhite Bounce    OUR SHEEP must  know the TRUTH    White BounceWhite Bounce

Hillary better be careful on what she wishes for....

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

I have read several articles some of which are left wing propaganda operations such as the Huffington Post and Politico and they mention that over 25% of all federal employees would resign if Trump is elected, that number rises to 42% if only democrats poll figures are used.

I hope these folks keep their word and resign as there are a lot of people in need of a government job that comes loaded with perks. It's time to overhaul the entire government workforce starting with the IRS, EPA, DOE and the ED...the last two I mentioned were created under Jimmy Carter and have been a total waste of tax dollars. 

 

GO TRUMP!!!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

A little warning.

First Trump comes out after the hearing that the FBI is corrupt.  Then the FBI reopens the case and now

Trump praises the FBI.  Now if the FBI says again that there is nothing to prosecute Trump will look like

a fool.  It's my opinion that Trump is being set up again.  I think that the reopening of the case is a rouse

so be warned.  Hilda is in it up to her neck but it's not only her but scores of other politicians on both sides

of the aisles.  There is however talk about how some FBI agents are threatening to go public and I hope this

is not a lie.   If you take that rumor out of the equation then it's easy to see the problem.  I for one don't

trust the FBI given recent events.  Even if they do find good reason then who will prosecute?  The whole

thing stinks if you ask me.   It's quite clear Hillary should go to jail but she's not the only one.   I see a system

of dismissals using carefully formulated tactics which far too many are willing to swallow like a pill from a

doctor.  I think from the time FBI  director James Comey got grilled a plan went into the works to not only

dig Hilda out of the pile of $hit she is swimming in but to discredit Trump just before the election.  The FBI

also needs to revamp it's image.   I hope I am wrong but I am usually right about these things.  Hilda is 

now acting like she wants a good investigation which IMHO is a dead give-a-way.   Maybe she knows the

master plan because she helped create it.   Again, I hope I am wrong.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Oct 29, 2016

I have read several articles some of which are left wing propaganda operations such as the Huffington Post and Politico and they mention that over 25% of all federal employees would resign if Trump is elected, that number rises to 42% if only democrats poll figures are used.

I hope these folks keep their word and resign as there are a lot of people in need of a government job that comes loaded with perks. It's time to overhaul the entire government workforce starting with the IRS, EPA, DOE and the ED...the last two I mentioned were created under Jimmy Carter and have been a total waste of tax dollars. 

 

GO TRUMP!!!

It would also mean that there would be a lot of unqualified people who can't find a real job all out of work collecting

food stamps.   Your right, so many government departments are a pure waste of tax dollars. 

RL

noise-gate

Why oh why is Trump still complaining about Alec Baldwin's portrayal of him? It's just a show and SNL makes fun of all the Presidential candidates. Can you imagine Donald being President and some 3rd world leader truly pisses him off- what's stopping him from turning to one of his advisors and saying " Know what,  let's drop a few daisy cutters a few miles from his village to teach this heathen a lesson. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trump rally in Golden, CO.  Live stream starts now. 

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by Skibunnylk on Oct 29, 2016

Hillary better be careful on what she wishes for....

YES.....SKiB, Hillary wishes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hiding Behind Computer>>>>>>Puke BS

OUR SHEEP must know the  TRUTH  "THIS"  TIME  "REALLY"  mean  it,  HONEST

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Hillary to be indicted after the election win or lose.

https://youtu.be/pA6n6dKFVLM

bigbear29

YES!  the election is rigged: 

ATrump supporter charged with voting twice in Iowa:

A woman in Iowa was arrested this week on suspicion of voting twice in the general election, court and police records show.

Terri Lynn Rote, a 55-year-old Des Moines resident, was booked Thursday on a first-degree charge of election misconduct, according to Polk County Jail records. The charge is considered a Class D felony under Iowa state law.

Rote was released Friday after posting $5,000 bond. A preliminary hearing is scheduled for Nov. 7.

The Des Moines Register reported that Rote is a registered Republican who cast two ballots in the general election: an early-voting ballot at the Polk County Election Office and another at a county satellite voting location, according to police records.

Rote hadn’t planned on voting twice but said it was “a spur-of-the-moment thing” when she walked by the satellite voting location, she told The Washington Post in a phone interview Saturday.

“I don’t know what came over me,” Rote said.

She added she has been a supporter of Donald Trump since early in his campaign, after Republican candidate Mike Huckabee dropped out of the primary race.

Rote told Iowa Public Radio that she cast her first ballot for Trump but feared it would be changed to a vote for Hillary Clinton.

“The polls are rigged,” Rote told the radio station.

Leigh Munsil, an editor for the Blaze, noted on Twitter that Rote was the same woman who had caucused for Trump earlier this year.

bigbear29

SEE IT: Black man, Trump booted from rally and called a 'thug', is a supporter and pen pal of the GOP candidate

I hope trump just losed another vote.  He's a racist!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trump-kicks-black-supporter-rally-calls-thug-article-1.2850358

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Oct 29, 2016

SEE IT: Black man, Trump booted from rally and called a 'thug', is a supporter and pen pal of the GOP candidate

I hope trump just losed another vote.  He's a racist!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trump-kicks-black-supporter-rally-calls-thug-article-1.2850358

grwurston's avatargrwurston

BREAKING: Obama Just Caught Trying to Sabotage New Clinton Email Investigation… This is SICK

 You know Hillary Clinton is getting desperate when she begins resorting to cheap tricks like this one…

As you already know, yesterday the FBI announced that they will be reopening the Clinton email investigation following the discovery of new emails on Anthony Weiner’s laptop that Hillary thought she had deleted.

Well, as a last ditch effort to try and save her career, President Obama stepped in last minute and Ordered Attorney General Loretta Lynch to tell Comey to back off and not release the information to the public!

You see, technically Loretta Lynch is in charge of the FBI by being attorney general. She approached Comey directly when she learned about the information and ordered him to stand down, saying he was violating Department of Justice policy.

According to her, it would “interfere with the election.”

James Comey, however, was apparently sick and tired of being bossed around. He stared back at her and declared that he had a duty to Congress and the American people to let them know what is REALLY going on.

Quantcast

Comey said,

“I also think it would be misleading to the American people were we not to supplement the record.”

So thank you, FBI Director Comey, for finally growing a pair and standing up to the Hillary Clinton and Obama machine. Now the American people know the TRUTH about Hillary Clinton, and that will end her reign of terror.

If you want to show Comey your support, then share this out so everyone can see that the man is a hero just in case Obama uses some dirty trick to try and sabotage him too…

BREAKING: Obama Just Caught Trying to Sabotage New Clinton Email Investigation… This is SICK

 You know Hillary Clinton is getting desperate when she begins resorting to cheap tricks like this one…

As you already know, yesterday the FBI announced that they will be reopening the Clinton email investigation following the discovery of new emails on Anthony Weiner’s laptop that Hillary thought she had deleted.

Well, as a last ditch effort to try and save her career, President Obama stepped in last minute and Ordered Attorney General Loretta Lynch to tell Comey to back off and not release the information to the public!

You see, technically Loretta Lynch is in charge of the FBI by being attorney general. She approached Comey directly when she learned about the information and ordered him to stand down, saying he was violating Department of Justice policy.

According to her, it would “interfere with the election.”

James Comey, however, was apparently sick and tired of being bossed around. He stared back at her and declared that he had a duty to Congress and the American people to let them know what is REALLY going on.t

Quantcast

Comey said,

“I also think it would be misleading to the American people were we not to supplement the record.”

So thank you, FBI Director Comey, for finally growing a pair and standing up to the Hillary Clinton and Obama machine. Now the American people know the TRUTH about Hillary Clinton, and that will end her reign of terror.

If you want to show Comey your support, then share this out so everyone can see that the man is a hero just in case Obama uses some dirty trick to try and sabotage him too…

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Breaking: Hillary Throws Huma Abedin Off Her Plane… WOW!


Huma Abedin has VOIDED her immunity deal with the FBI. This means she has to sing or face jail time. Hillary Clinton no longer wants her around. According to reporters on Hillary’s campaign, Abedin is no longer sitting near the front cabin on her plane to Florida. She’s no where to be found this morning. So sad.

 

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noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 29, 2016

Hillary to be indicted after the election win or lose.

https://youtu.be/pA6n6dKFVLM

This guy you quoting is a Conspiracy theorist G. In fact he blamed the Bush Administration for 98% of a "staged terrorist attack"  on the Twin Towers. If you believe that, l have some prime Swamp land available for sale.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 29, 2016

This guy you quoting is a Conspiracy theorist G. In fact he blamed the Bush Administration for 98% of a "staged terrorist attack"  on the Twin Towers. If you believe that, l have some prime Swamp land available for sale.

I didn't know DC was for sale....

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 29, 2016

I didn't know DC was for sale....

If it is, it has mostly Republican politicians in both houses,  so does that make them Swamp People? 

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 29, 2016

Sorry,

You are wrong, again.

Facts are facts. You can read, so read the facts.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 29, 2016

I have to get ready for work, so I don't have time to type it all, so just Google Tx rules for voter ID. Many ways to get around it, but again, common sense says a person should have to prove they are registered to vote and that they are who they say they are. What's so hard about that? You gotta have an ID to drive a car.

Oh wait. You WANT voter fraud so it's easier for dead people to vote for Hillbag.

I did, the link is right in front of you, go click it.

The Texas Lottery accepts College ID's, but not the Texas Board of "Elections". 

Explain how a gun permit is anymore valid than a college ID. Hint: It's not. 

There's no point to ID's but it wouldn't be bad to have them, IF the government actively goes to EVERY eligible voter and gives them the proper ID FOR FREE, Anything less and it's tyranny pure and simple. 

https://thinkprogress.org/voter-fraud-trump-supporter-4063dfe775c1#.7yt392rv4

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/28/trump-supporter-rig-election-committing-voter-fraud.html

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2016/10/28/voter-fraud-suspect-arrested-des-moines/92892042/

"So Donald Trump's warnings about almost non-existent voter fraud were right after all. The only problem is that it was a Donald Trump supporter who committed voter fraud by voting twice."

"First-time voters in Iowa may be asked to present identification for proof of residency. Generally speaking, identification is not required."

Iowa has no ID requirements for voters who have previously voted, and yet they were still able to stop the voter fraud committed by Trump supporters. 

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 29, 2016

You're correct on voter turnout, but the Democrats never needed the anti-Trump Republican vote.

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president Hillary Clinton no matter what". I was remind of that when looking at Trump's polling performance compared to Romney's in 2012. Trump is currently way behind Romney who won 24 states.

"Hillary Clinton's campaign is confronting an emerging risk to her presidential ambitions — if Donald Trump continues to trail her in opinion polls many Democrats may simply stay at home on Election Day. Without enough popular support, Clinton would enter the White House lacking the political capital she would need to drive through her agenda. In the worst-case scenario it could cost her the presidency if Republicans turn out in big numbers on Nov. 8.Clinton, the Democratic nominee, has spent much of her campaign sounding the alarm over the prospect of a President Trump. She has struggled to lay out a compelling vision for her presidency and has failed to excite key constituencies, including millennials, minority voters and liberal Democrats. Opinion polls show that many voters are backing Clinton primarily to stop Trump, the Republican nominee, from getting into the White House. If they believe he has no hope of winning, then what would their motivation be to turn up at the polls? In a recent Reuters/Ipsos poll about half of all Clinton supporters said they were backing her to keep Trump from winning. By contrast, just 36.5 percent said it was because of Clinton's policies and just 12.6 percent said it was because they like her personally.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/11/trumps-struggles-may-depress-democratic-voter-turnout.html

47% might not vote for Trump, but if they don't show up, the vote totals would look very different. 

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 29, 2016

Why oh why is Trump still complaining about Alec Baldwin's portrayal of him? It's just a show and SNL makes fun of all the Presidential candidates. Can you imagine Donald being President and some 3rd world leader truly pisses him off- what's stopping him from turning to one of his advisors and saying " Know what,  let's drop a few daisy cutters a few miles from his village to teach this heathen a lesson. 

It's really a character flaw and why Trump is so far behind in the polls. Why couldn't he just ignore Khan's speech at the convention?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 29, 2016

If it is, it has mostly Republican politicians in both houses,  so does that make them Swamp People? 

We can only guess what goes on inside a Trump supporters mind, but if some them here are examples, they don't know Trump is the Republican Party's nominee.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 29, 2016

"Hillary Clinton's campaign is confronting an emerging risk to her presidential ambitions — if Donald Trump continues to trail her in opinion polls many Democrats may simply stay at home on Election Day. Without enough popular support, Clinton would enter the White House lacking the political capital she would need to drive through her agenda. In the worst-case scenario it could cost her the presidency if Republicans turn out in big numbers on Nov. 8.Clinton, the Democratic nominee, has spent much of her campaign sounding the alarm over the prospect of a President Trump. She has struggled to lay out a compelling vision for her presidency and has failed to excite key constituencies, including millennials, minority voters and liberal Democrats. Opinion polls show that many voters are backing Clinton primarily to stop Trump, the Republican nominee, from getting into the White House. If they believe he has no hope of winning, then what would their motivation be to turn up at the polls? In a recent Reuters/Ipsos poll about half of all Clinton supporters said they were backing her to keep Trump from winning. By contrast, just 36.5 percent said it was because of Clinton's policies and just 12.6 percent said it was because they like her personally.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/11/trumps-struggles-may-depress-democratic-voter-turnout.html

47% might not vote for Trump, but if they don't show up, the vote totals would look very different. 

After the 2000 results more attention was paid to electoral votes than to popular votes. Florida was obvious, but had Gore won New Hampshire's 4 electoral votes, he would be the President and we would never heard of "hanging chads".

The real question is will all the Republicans in the battle ground states go out and vote for Trump and right now it seems unlikely.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 29, 2016

This guy you quoting is a Conspiracy theorist G. In fact he blamed the Bush Administration for 98% of a "staged terrorist attack"  on the Twin Towers. If you believe that, l have some prime Swamp land available for sale.

We shall see.

grwurston's avatargrwurston
A SHORT POEM YOU WON'T FORGET.
 
Do you recall President Obama referring to the Benghazi incident as “a bump in the road?”  An ex-Navy Seal was being interviewed on Fox News regarding a book he has written about how to handle crisis situations in our lives.  At the end of the interview he asked if he could make a comment on Benghazi and, of course, the anchor said “yes.”
 
He then thanked Fox News for keeping the Benghazi story in the news, since other news organizations are not.  He said the Seals who died deserve to be remembered by this poem.  The poem was written by an anonymous Marine Corps officer:
 
“THE BATTLING BOYS OF BENGHAZI”
 
We're the battling boys of Benghazi,
No fame, no glory, no paparazzi.
Just a fiery death in a blazing hell,
Defending our country we loved so well.
 
It wasn't our job, but we answered the call,
Fought to the Consulate and scaled the wall.
We pulled twenty countrymen from the jaws of fate,
Led them to safety and stood at the gate.
 
Just the two of us and foes by the score,
But we stood fast to bar the door.
Three calls for reinforcement, but all were denied,
So we fought and we fought and we fought until we died.
 
We gave our all for our Uncle Sam,
But Barack and Hillary didn't give a <snip>.
Just two dead Seals who carried the load
No thanks to us ... we were just “Bumps in the Road.”
 
So, will this reach every American with a computer?  Or do we act like the press and give a pass to the people who literally sat there in the White House and watched the Seals’ execution on live streaming video and did absolutely nothing?
 
“What difference does it make?”   And she hopes to be the next President!
 
***************
IN GOD WE TRUST
***************
Never forget, PLEASE!
 

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Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 30, 2016

A SHORT POEM YOU WON'T FORGET.
 
Do you recall President Obama referring to the Benghazi incident as “a bump in the road?”  An ex-Navy Seal was being interviewed on Fox News regarding a book he has written about how to handle crisis situations in our lives.  At the end of the interview he asked if he could make a comment on Benghazi and, of course, the anchor said “yes.”
 
He then thanked Fox News for keeping the Benghazi story in the news, since other news organizations are not.  He said the Seals who died deserve to be remembered by this poem.  The poem was written by an anonymous Marine Corps officer:
 
“THE BATTLING BOYS OF BENGHAZI”
 
We're the battling boys of Benghazi,
No fame, no glory, no paparazzi.
Just a fiery death in a blazing hell,
Defending our country we loved so well.
 
It wasn't our job, but we answered the call,
Fought to the Consulate and scaled the wall.
We pulled twenty countrymen from the jaws of fate,
Led them to safety and stood at the gate.
 
Just the two of us and foes by the score,
But we stood fast to bar the door.
Three calls for reinforcement, but all were denied,
So we fought and we fought and we fought until we died.
 
We gave our all for our Uncle Sam,
But Barack and Hillary didn't give a <snip>.
Just two dead Seals who carried the load
No thanks to us ... we were just “Bumps in the Road.”
 
So, will this reach every American with a computer?  Or do we act like the press and give a pass to the people who literally sat there in the White House and watched the Seals’ execution on live streaming video and did absolutely nothing?
 
“What difference does it make?”   And she hopes to be the next President!
 
***************
IN GOD WE TRUST
***************
Never forget, PLEASE!
 

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Will pass this along.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 30, 2016

A SHORT POEM YOU WON'T FORGET.
 
Do you recall President Obama referring to the Benghazi incident as “a bump in the road?”  An ex-Navy Seal was being interviewed on Fox News regarding a book he has written about how to handle crisis situations in our lives.  At the end of the interview he asked if he could make a comment on Benghazi and, of course, the anchor said “yes.”
 
He then thanked Fox News for keeping the Benghazi story in the news, since other news organizations are not.  He said the Seals who died deserve to be remembered by this poem.  The poem was written by an anonymous Marine Corps officer:
 
“THE BATTLING BOYS OF BENGHAZI”
 
We're the battling boys of Benghazi,
No fame, no glory, no paparazzi.
Just a fiery death in a blazing hell,
Defending our country we loved so well.
 
It wasn't our job, but we answered the call,
Fought to the Consulate and scaled the wall.
We pulled twenty countrymen from the jaws of fate,
Led them to safety and stood at the gate.
 
Just the two of us and foes by the score,
But we stood fast to bar the door.
Three calls for reinforcement, but all were denied,
So we fought and we fought and we fought until we died.
 
We gave our all for our Uncle Sam,
But Barack and Hillary didn't give a <snip>.
Just two dead Seals who carried the load
No thanks to us ... we were just “Bumps in the Road.”
 
So, will this reach every American with a computer?  Or do we act like the press and give a pass to the people who literally sat there in the White House and watched the Seals’ execution on live streaming video and did absolutely nothing?
 
“What difference does it make?”   And she hopes to be the next President!
 
***************
IN GOD WE TRUST
***************
Never forget, PLEASE!
 

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Thanks grwurston,

THIS is but one of many things in a Trump supporter" mind.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 29, 2016

BREAKING: Obama Just Caught Trying to Sabotage New Clinton Email Investigation… This is SICK

 You know Hillary Clinton is getting desperate when she begins resorting to cheap tricks like this one…

As you already know, yesterday the FBI announced that they will be reopening the Clinton email investigation following the discovery of new emails on Anthony Weiner’s laptop that Hillary thought she had deleted.

Well, as a last ditch effort to try and save her career, President Obama stepped in last minute and Ordered Attorney General Loretta Lynch to tell Comey to back off and not release the information to the public!

You see, technically Loretta Lynch is in charge of the FBI by being attorney general. She approached Comey directly when she learned about the information and ordered him to stand down, saying he was violating Department of Justice policy.

According to her, it would “interfere with the election.”

James Comey, however, was apparently sick and tired of being bossed around. He stared back at her and declared that he had a duty to Congress and the American people to let them know what is REALLY going on.

Quantcast

Comey said,

“I also think it would be misleading to the American people were we not to supplement the record.”

So thank you, FBI Director Comey, for finally growing a pair and standing up to the Hillary Clinton and Obama machine. Now the American people know the TRUTH about Hillary Clinton, and that will end her reign of terror.

If you want to show Comey your support, then share this out so everyone can see that the man is a hero just in case Obama uses some dirty trick to try and sabotage him too…

BREAKING: Obama Just Caught Trying to Sabotage New Clinton Email Investigation… This is SICK

 You know Hillary Clinton is getting desperate when she begins resorting to cheap tricks like this one…

As you already know, yesterday the FBI announced that they will be reopening the Clinton email investigation following the discovery of new emails on Anthony Weiner’s laptop that Hillary thought she had deleted.

Well, as a last ditch effort to try and save her career, President Obama stepped in last minute and Ordered Attorney General Loretta Lynch to tell Comey to back off and not release the information to the public!

You see, technically Loretta Lynch is in charge of the FBI by being attorney general. She approached Comey directly when she learned about the information and ordered him to stand down, saying he was violating Department of Justice policy.

According to her, it would “interfere with the election.”

James Comey, however, was apparently sick and tired of being bossed around. He stared back at her and declared that he had a duty to Congress and the American people to let them know what is REALLY going on.t

Quantcast

Comey said,

“I also think it would be misleading to the American people were we not to supplement the record.”

So thank you, FBI Director Comey, for finally growing a pair and standing up to the Hillary Clinton and Obama machine. Now the American people know the TRUTH about Hillary Clinton, and that will end her reign of terror.

If you want to show Comey your support, then share this out so everyone can see that the man is a hero just in case Obama uses some dirty trick to try and sabotage him too…

The liberal media isn't reporting - they are trying to squelch and make it incidental or imbecile and meaningless exactly

what Comey is doing. They're sitting around laughing. I really hope the last laugh is on them. 

grwurston, ty for the update and ty Comey for standing up. Heads will roll and it will be very interesting to see who goes

down. I have a bad feeling Comey won't escape the axe. At least he stood up and did what was right this time. I don't

care if it's unheard of or look down upon to bring up issues like this within 60 days of an election. The important part

is he get it out there and not take the heat later on for not bringing it up at all.

10,000 emails hidden on Weiner's computer that Adedin used...are they some of the ones that couldn't originally be found?

Some said they were in a folder titled: Life Insurance and another tag that I can't remember right now...but not a title that would

indicate exactly what was in the folder.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Oct 30, 2016

No voter fraud? 

https://www.ff.org/non-citizens-voting-in-virginia-by-the-hundreds/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/10/29/trump-supporter-charged-with-voting-twice-in-iowa/?utm_term=.b8d344b7b3e8

A bunch of non-citizens in Virginia accidentally register to vote: OH MY GOD FRAUD!

A white Trump voter commits voter fraud: "crickets"

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Oct 30, 2016

A SHORT POEM YOU WON'T FORGET.
 
Do you recall President Obama referring to the Benghazi incident as “a bump in the road?”  An ex-Navy Seal was being interviewed on Fox News regarding a book he has written about how to handle crisis situations in our lives.  At the end of the interview he asked if he could make a comment on Benghazi and, of course, the anchor said “yes.”
 
He then thanked Fox News for keeping the Benghazi story in the news, since other news organizations are not.  He said the Seals who died deserve to be remembered by this poem.  The poem was written by an anonymous Marine Corps officer:
 
“THE BATTLING BOYS OF BENGHAZI”
 
We're the battling boys of Benghazi,
No fame, no glory, no paparazzi.
Just a fiery death in a blazing hell,
Defending our country we loved so well.
 
It wasn't our job, but we answered the call,
Fought to the Consulate and scaled the wall.
We pulled twenty countrymen from the jaws of fate,
Led them to safety and stood at the gate.
 
Just the two of us and foes by the score,
But we stood fast to bar the door.
Three calls for reinforcement, but all were denied,
So we fought and we fought and we fought until we died.
 
We gave our all for our Uncle Sam,
But Barack and Hillary didn't give a <snip>.
Just two dead Seals who carried the load
No thanks to us ... we were just “Bumps in the Road.”
 
So, will this reach every American with a computer?  Or do we act like the press and give a pass to the people who literally sat there in the White House and watched the Seals’ execution on live streaming video and did absolutely nothing?
 
“What difference does it make?”   And she hopes to be the next President!
 
***************
IN GOD WE TRUST
***************
Never forget, PLEASE!
 

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  4,486 U.S. soldiers died in Iraq and 2,345 U.S. soldiers died in Afghanistan, 1 million U.S. soldiers wounded in both wars, and a potential cost of up to $6 trillion- Where are the poems for them? Would Fox News publish them?

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 30, 2016

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/10/29/trump-supporter-charged-with-voting-twice-in-iowa/?utm_term=.b8d344b7b3e8

A bunch of non-citizens in Virginia accidentally register to vote: OH MY GOD FRAUD!

A white Trump voter commits voter fraud: "crickets"

1000 is more than "a bunch".

31 of whom voted a total of 186 times. 

http://dailysignal.com/2016/10/04/virginia-hasnt-stopped-noncitizens-from-voting-watchdog-finds/

And that was only in 8 counties. Who knows how many in the rest of VA's 133 counties?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 30, 2016

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/10/29/trump-supporter-charged-with-voting-twice-in-iowa/?utm_term=.b8d344b7b3e8

A bunch of non-citizens in Virginia accidentally register to vote: OH MY GOD FRAUD!

A white Trump voter commits voter fraud: "crickets"

How does a non-US citizen (((accidentally))) register to vote?   Give me a F'n break King!

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 30, 2016

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/10/29/trump-supporter-charged-with-voting-twice-in-iowa/?utm_term=.b8d344b7b3e8

A bunch of non-citizens in Virginia accidentally register to vote: OH MY GOD FRAUD!

A white Trump voter commits voter fraud: "crickets"

It is wrong for anyone to commit voter fraud..for Trump or Hillary. To keep this on a level of integrity, which 

will be difficult, no fraudulent vote should be counted whether by a white Trump supporter or any voter who

has failed to take the steps necessary to secure a valid registration.

Fraud is fraud, it hurts us all and is wrong no matter who does it.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 30, 2016

  4,486 U.S. soldiers died in Iraq and 2,345 U.S. soldiers died in Afghanistan, 1 million U.S. soldiers wounded in both wars, and a potential cost of up to $6 trillion- Where are the poems for them? Would Fox News publish them?

Apples and oranges noisy.

Wars, which many may agree with or disagree with (Vietnam, and how 'Nam vets were treated, by the way, being called "baby killers") are just that...wars.

What happened in Benghazi was CRIMINAL. The embassy requested more security knowing the situation there. When the attack was under way they repeatedly asked for help, only to be ignored.  Then, the SOS, Hillary, has the audacity to ask "what difference does it make".

F...ing really???

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 30, 2016

Apples and oranges noisy.

Wars, which many may agree with or disagree with (Vietnam, and how 'Nam vets were treated, by the way, being called "baby killers") are just that...wars.

What happened in Benghazi was CRIMINAL. The embassy requested more security knowing the situation there. When the attack was under way they repeatedly asked for help, only to be ignored.  Then, the SOS, Hillary, has the audacity to ask "what difference does it make".

F...ing really???

l try and be as fair as possible rcb- if people are committing crimes,whether its a politician or the person on the street, l want to see them punished. This is from an earlier report of mine...

 My heart goes out to every American whose life is lost for the greater good. Having said that, why is that to " some" Hillary is totally to blame for what happened in Benghazi? I paid more than the usual attention to the hearings where she sat before Trey and answered in a very coherent fashion by saying in not too many words" we have experts in govt" whose job it is to handle the security matters at Embassies around the world & so forth and so on. She said that part of her job as SOS is hand off responsibility to these folk.She is Not omnipresent. To " some" it would seem that a SOS has to be everywhere, to answer for everything. Sounds a lot like BS to me.  Is it the SOS job to know every detail of what goes on in their department given that she was in charge of over 60,000 professionals carrying out the foreign policy of the United States and aiding U.S. citizens abroad. All the hearing prior to her going before Trey did not find her responsible for the tragedy- why is more responsibility put on her shoulders because of this?

You wrote: What happened in Benghazi was CRIMINAL. The embassy requested more security knowing the situation there. When the attack was under way they repeatedly asked for help, only to be ignored.

My question is : Who ignored the request? Are you absolutely certain that Hillary was TOLD this and decided to ignore it when the Embassy was being attacked? If there is concrete proof that she was AWARE of this and did Nothing, then Hey: l want her to PAY  for that, but guessing that she knew is not good enough. 

dr65's avatardr65

Praise and roses and kisses in July....hangman's noose, cement blocks and hatred in October..

Hillary/Comey

LOL

Just like a snake.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

BREAKING NEWS Election officials caught throwing Trump ballots in the trash..

https://www.facebook.com/Hillary-Clinton-For-Prison-2016-655747774471990/

RL

dr65's avatardr65

What a turn of events! CNN giving Podesta a hard time - bravo! 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/30/politics/clinton-emails-fbi-abedin/index.html

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Oct 30, 2016

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/10/29/trump-supporter-charged-with-voting-twice-in-iowa/?utm_term=.b8d344b7b3e8

A bunch of non-citizens in Virginia accidentally register to vote: OH MY GOD FRAUD!

A white Trump voter commits voter fraud: "crickets"

It's the same old "preaching to the choir" because they are the only ones believing it. Just look around, when was the last time someone on this thread said they were "undecided" but someone like Coin Toss convinced them to vote for Trump?

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 30, 2016

BREAKING NEWS Election officials caught throwing Trump ballots in the trash..

https://www.facebook.com/Hillary-Clinton-For-Prison-2016-655747774471990/

RL

More down the page RL...there's a piece showing the WH cancelled Obama's scheduled campaign appearances

on behalf of Hillary Clinton - there are 11 of them X'd out.

dr65's avatardr65
RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I think the only ones still voting for Hilda are the other crooks and the ones that hate Trump. I guess they

could be lumped into one because the crooks hate Trump because he stands for law and order.   Are there

any people left who love Hilda and all her scandals?   The DNC should pull her now and replace with anyone.

The only problem with that is finding someone who wants to run who's name is not in the leaked emails.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

The Bible tell us there is nothing hidden that won't be revealed.  Kind of scary if we think about it. 

Some things while we are still here, the rest at judgement.  The bible also tell us that there is a

limit and once that limit is reached, well I guess we are seeing a example.   God is not mocked,

what we sow we will also reap.   Be afraid, very afraid.

RL

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream
lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 30, 2016

Apples and oranges noisy.

Wars, which many may agree with or disagree with (Vietnam, and how 'Nam vets were treated, by the way, being called "baby killers") are just that...wars.

What happened in Benghazi was CRIMINAL. The embassy requested more security knowing the situation there. When the attack was under way they repeatedly asked for help, only to be ignored.  Then, the SOS, Hillary, has the audacity to ask "what difference does it make".

F...ing really???

RC, that is the truth, but something no one ever seems to realize or mention IT WAS ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11, you would think they would be ESPECIALLY vigilant to make sure ANY AND ALL Ameriican Embassy's were safe and secure.

SOS Clinton deserted everyone.  That statement she made turns my stomach.  If those mem were my family?  You bet she would know the difference when I slapped HER with a lawsuit along with al the families of those lost.  Clinton is pathetic and makes me sick.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Oct 30, 2016

RC, that is the truth, but something no one ever seems to realize or mention IT WAS ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11, you would think they would be ESPECIALLY vigilant to make sure ANY AND ALL Ameriican Embassy's were safe and secure.

SOS Clinton deserted everyone.  That statement she made turns my stomach.  If those mem were my family?  You bet she would know the difference when I slapped HER with a lawsuit along with al the families of those lost.  Clinton is pathetic and makes me sick.

You are right on lejardin. It was on Sept 11. Common sense would dictate a heightened security at embassies. The staff at Benghazi knew there was danger, tried to tell the SOS, and ultimately the government and Hillbag cost them including the ambassador their lives.

I really can't believe anyone would want her for President. Just amazing.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Oct 30, 2016

BREAKING NEWS Election officials caught throwing Trump ballots in the trash..

https://www.facebook.com/Hillary-Clinton-For-Prison-2016-655747774471990/

RL

ROFL  RL is quoting facebook.  ROFL

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 30, 2016

LOLOLOL!!!

That is too funny!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Oct 30, 2016

Apples and oranges noisy.

Wars, which many may agree with or disagree with (Vietnam, and how 'Nam vets were treated, by the way, being called "baby killers") are just that...wars.

What happened in Benghazi was CRIMINAL. The embassy requested more security knowing the situation there. When the attack was under way they repeatedly asked for help, only to be ignored.  Then, the SOS, Hillary, has the audacity to ask "what difference does it make".

F...ing really???

"The embassy requested more security knowing the situation there."

60 people were killed in 13 embassy and consulate attacks prior to Benghazi. And sadly that's what happens when people are put in harms way. How do you justify the 250 Americans killed in Lebanon when Reagan was President. And that was after 17 Marines were killed at the Embassy.

"Then, the SOS, Hillary, has the audacity to ask "what difference does it make"."

Does it make a difference, even today if it was a premeditated terrorist attack or spur of the monment an anti-Muslim video?

Which part of this time line shows any Criminal actions by the State Department?

2:30 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time (8:30 p.m. Benghazi time): U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens steps outside the consulate to say goodbye to a Turkish diplomat. There are no protesters at this time. (“Everything is calm at 8:30,” a State Department official would later say at a briefing for reporters. “There’s nothing unusual. There has been nothing unusual during the day at all outside.”)

3 p.m.: Ambassador Stevens retires to his bedroom for the evening. (See Oct. 9 briefing.)

Approximately 3:40 p.m. A security agent at the Benghazi compound hears “loud noises” coming from the front gate and “gunfire and an explosion.” A senior State Department official at the Oct. 9 briefing says that “the camera on the main gate reveals a large number of people – a large number of men, armed men, flowing into the compound.”

About 4 p.m.: This is the approximate time of attack that was given to reporters. An administration official identified only as “senior administration official one” provides an official timeline of events at the consulate, but only from the time of the attack — not prior to the attack. The official says, “The compound where our office is in Benghazi began taking fire from unidentified Libyan extremists.” (Six of the next seven entries in this timeline — through 8:30 p.m. EDT — all come from the Sept. 12 briefing. The exception being the 6:07 p.m. entry, which comes from Reuters.)

About 4:15 p.m.: “The attackers gained access to the compound and began firing into the main building, setting it on fire. The Libyan guard force and our mission security personnel responded. At that time, there were three people inside the building: Ambassador Stevens, one of our regional security officers, and Information Management Officer Sean Smith.”

Between 4:15 p.m.-4:45 p.m.: Sean Smith is found dead.

About 4:45 p.m.: “U.S. security personnel assigned to the mission annex tried to regain the main building, but that group also took heavy fire and had to return to the mission annex.”

About 5:20 p.m.: “U.S. and Libyan security personnel … regain the main building and they were able to secure it.”

Around 6 p.m.: “The mission annex then came under fire itself at around 6 o’clock in the evening our time, and that continued for about two hours. It was during that time that two additional U.S. personnel were killed and two more were wounded during that ongoing attack.”

6:07 p.m.: The State Department’s Operations Center sends an email to the White House, Pentagon, FBI and other government agencies that said Ansar al-Sharia has claimed credit for the attack on its Facebook and Twitter accounts. (The existence of the email was not disclosed until Reuters reported it on Oct. 24.)

About 8:30 p.m.: “Libyan security forces were able to assist us in regaining control of the situation. At some point in all of this – and frankly, we do not know when – we believe that Ambassador Stevens got out of the building and was taken to a hospital in Benghazi. We do not have any information what his condition was at that time. His body was later returned to U.S. personnel at the Benghazi airport.”

Why did Stevens "retire to his bedroom" at 9:00 PM "knowing the situation there" if the Embassy was in the grave danger like you're pretending it was?

Did you read your phony Benghazi account on Facebook or hear it at Trump rally?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 30, 2016

Pumpkin Happy Hallo-weiner Bat

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 30, 2016

Pumpkin Happy Hallo-weiner Bat

Jamora, omg hysterical..... Anybody get that email....   Puke

Sully, your timing is impeccable and oh so true hahahahahahahaGreen laugh

Jester Laugh  Pumpkin

Edit: I meant Jamora your timing is perfect!  Sully you are just too funny.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 30, 2016

Pumpkin Happy Hallo-weiner Bat

I heard her security team called her helicopter BROOMSTICK 1 !!! LOLOLOL!!!!

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 30, 2016

I heard her security team called her helicopter BROOMSTICK 1 !!! LOLOLOL!!!!

Hahahahahahaha I have no doubt. There are all kinds of stories out by her security detail on how much they hate her and what a witch she is. 

IMO Hillary is just plain stupid, does she really they are going to protect her should push come to shove?  I would be taking care of them and treat those guys with respect.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 30, 2016

I heard her security team called her helicopter BROOMSTICK 1 !!! LOLOLOL!!!!

rotflmao, She gives Witches a bad name.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 30, 2016

It's the same old "preaching to the choir" because they are the only ones believing it. Just look around, when was the last time someone on this thread said they were "undecided" but someone like Coin Toss convinced them to vote for Trump?

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Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Oct 30, 2016

      LOLOLO..... Green laugh

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Oct 30, 2016

Pumpkin Happy Hallo-weiner Bat

    LMAO!!!!   ROFL   Just too funny...

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 30, 2016

  4,486 U.S. soldiers died in Iraq and 2,345 U.S. soldiers died in Afghanistan, 1 million U.S. soldiers wounded in both wars, and a potential cost of up to $6 trillion- Where are the poems for them? Would Fox News publish them?

noise-gate,

Since the author of that poem was a Marine Corps officer I'm pretty sure he or she was well aware of US war casualties.

The poem about Benghazi is because it didn't have to happen and those there were abandoned by someone who is now saying she's the better qualified candidate to be Commander-in-Chief.

Bang Head

 

This poem is a classic;

It Has Always Been The Soldier

It is the soldier,
not the President,
who
gives us democracy.

It is the soldier,
not the Congress,
who
takes care of us.

It is the soldier,
not the reporter,
who has given us
Freedom of Press.

It is the soldier,
not the poet,
who has given us
Freedom of Speech.

It is the soldier,
not the campus organizer,
who has given us the
Freedom to Demonstrate.

It is the soldier,
who salutes the flag,
who serves beneath the flag,
and whose
coffin is draped by the flag
that allows the protester to burn the flag.

By Father Dennis O'Brien
Chaplain
United States Marines

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 31, 2016

noise-gate,

Since the author of that poem was a Marine Corps officer I'm pretty sure he or she was well aware of US war casualties.

The poem about Benghazi is because it didn't have to happen and those there were abandoned by someone who is now saying she's the better qualified candidate to be Commander-in-Chief.

Bang Head

 

This poem is a classic;

It Has Always Been The Soldier

It is the soldier,
not the President,
who
gives us democracy.

It is the soldier,
not the Congress,
who
takes care of us.

It is the soldier,
not the reporter,
who has given us
Freedom of Press.

It is the soldier,
not the poet,
who has given us
Freedom of Speech.

It is the soldier,
not the campus organizer,
who has given us the
Freedom to Demonstrate.

It is the soldier,
who salutes the flag,
who serves beneath the flag,
and whose
coffin is draped by the flag
that allows the protester to burn the flag.

By Father Dennis O'Brien
Chaplain
United States Marines

Coin Toss

l have no problem with people expressing their views.This Marine Corp Officer has an opinion just like anyone else.

This is what l posted to buckeye, it saves me having to repeat myself.

He Wrote : What happened in Benghazi was CRIMINAL. The embassy requested more security knowing the situation there. When the attack was under way they repeatedly asked for help, only to be ignored.

My question was : Who ignored the request? Are you absolutely certain that Hillary was TOLD this and decided to ignore it when the Embassy was being attacked? If there is concrete proof that she was AWARE of this and did Nothing, then Hey: l want her to PAY  for that, but guessing that she knew is not good enough. Abandoning staff under fire is a criminal offense- until l can read an email that specifically stated that Clinton was made aware of the attack and DID NOTHING- l will remain neutral.- l am not into the Blame Game.

From Policy. Mic.

Where does Clinton play into this? Well, aside from being the Secretary of State — an important cabinet position — she later took responsibility for the security at the compound, or rather, a lack thereof. "I'm in charge of the State Department's 60,000-plus people all over the world, 275 posts," Clinton said, in an interview with CNN. "The president and the vice president wouldn't be knowledgeable about specific decisions that are made by security professionals. They're the ones who weigh all of the threats and the risks and the needs, and make a considered decision."

Since the terrorist strike, investigations have detailed failures on the end of the State Department and the intelligence community, which included a Senate Intelligence Committee report in January 2014 that said both were at fault for failing to prevent the attack, according to the Washington Post. However, there was only one specific reference to Clinton throughout the report.

"The document contains only one mention of then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, whom the panel's Republicans name as the official who should ultimately be held responsible for the failures in Benghazi," Adam Goldman and Anne Gearan wrote for the Post. "

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 31, 2016

noise-gate,

Since the author of that poem was a Marine Corps officer I'm pretty sure he or she was well aware of US war casualties.

The poem about Benghazi is because it didn't have to happen and those there were abandoned by someone who is now saying she's the better qualified candidate to be Commander-in-Chief.

Bang Head

 

This poem is a classic;

It Has Always Been The Soldier

It is the soldier,
not the President,
who
gives us democracy.

It is the soldier,
not the Congress,
who
takes care of us.

It is the soldier,
not the reporter,
who has given us
Freedom of Press.

It is the soldier,
not the poet,
who has given us
Freedom of Speech.

It is the soldier,
not the campus organizer,
who has given us the
Freedom to Demonstrate.

It is the soldier,
who salutes the flag,
who serves beneath the flag,
and whose
coffin is draped by the flag
that allows the protester to burn the flag.

By Father Dennis O'Brien
Chaplain
United States Marines

"The poem about Benghazi"

Oh really? Did you miss where it says "it is the soldier"?

FYI, not one of the four men killed at Benghazi were soldiers so how could that poem be about Benghazi?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 31, 2016

Coin Toss

l have no problem with people expressing their views.This Marine Corp Officer has an opinion just like anyone else.

This is what l posted to buckeye, it saves me having to repeat myself.

He Wrote : What happened in Benghazi was CRIMINAL. The embassy requested more security knowing the situation there. When the attack was under way they repeatedly asked for help, only to be ignored.

My question was : Who ignored the request? Are you absolutely certain that Hillary was TOLD this and decided to ignore it when the Embassy was being attacked? If there is concrete proof that she was AWARE of this and did Nothing, then Hey: l want her to PAY  for that, but guessing that she knew is not good enough. Abandoning staff under fire is a criminal offense- until l can read an email that specifically stated that Clinton was made aware of the attack and DID NOTHING- l will remain neutral.- l am not into the Blame Game.

From Policy. Mic.

Where does Clinton play into this? Well, aside from being the Secretary of State — an important cabinet position — she later took responsibility for the security at the compound, or rather, a lack thereof. "I'm in charge of the State Department's 60,000-plus people all over the world, 275 posts," Clinton said, in an interview with CNN. "The president and the vice president wouldn't be knowledgeable about specific decisions that are made by security professionals. They're the ones who weigh all of the threats and the risks and the needs, and make a considered decision."

Since the terrorist strike, investigations have detailed failures on the end of the State Department and the intelligence community, which included a Senate Intelligence Committee report in January 2014 that said both were at fault for failing to prevent the attack, according to the Washington Post. However, there was only one specific reference to Clinton throughout the report.

"The document contains only one mention of then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, whom the panel's Republicans name as the official who should ultimately be held responsible for the failures in Benghazi," Adam Goldman and Anne Gearan wrote for the Post. "

Nice poem but it can't be about Benghazi because none of the men killed were in the Military though two of the CIA agents were ex-Navy Seals. If we're going to hold Clinton responsible for those four deaths, should we hold Reagan responsible for the 258 Marines killed in Lebanon, or George W Bush for all the deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan? 

Was any Secretary of State held accountable for any attacks on embassies or consulates?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 31, 2016

"The poem about Benghazi"

Oh really? Did you miss where it says "it is the soldier"?

FYI, not one of the four men killed at Benghazi were soldiers so how could that poem be about Benghazi?

Any one with a functioning brain would know I was referring to The Battling Boys of Benghazi poem, originally posted by gwurston.

I didn't 'miss' where it says It Is the Soldier, I posted it you dimwit. 

 You either really do have serious mental problems or you have the reading comprehension of a rock ape or are intentionally out to be sa pain. 

Your past time is criticizing other people yet the only way you can do it is by misquoting what they said for what you think they said because you are totally lacking in any creativity. Stop getting your mental exercise by jumping to conclusions. 
May you swallow 3 gallons of blue highlighter.
dr65's avatardr65

Life Insurance?..There are a lot of people going down...Trump does not hold a candle to what the criminal Hillary

has done and is doing. She wanted absolute power. She wanted to play with fire, now she will get burned.

I'll enjoy seeing them drop like flies. Great time to be alive! GO TRUMP!! US Flag

This is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...we the people will keep it that way, no matter what it takes.

Keep talking, keep acting, keep spreading the news. Trey Gowdy is an outstanding individual. 

https://youtu.be/_NftCl5UWQE 

https://youtu.be/0jas7AyVQiA

dr65's avatardr65

Social Media Blackout..top news story buried everywhere..the only place to find talk about it is 

Fox News. 

https://youtu.be/ng23fP5BmY4

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 31, 2016

Any one with a functioning brain would know I was referring to The Battling Boys of Benghazi poem, originally posted by gwurston.

I didn't 'miss' where it says It Is the Soldier, I posted it you dimwit. 

 You either really do have serious mental problems or you have the reading comprehension of a rock ape or are intentionally out to be sa pain. 

Your past time is criticizing other people yet the only way you can do it is by misquoting what they said for what you think they said because you are totally lacking in any creativity. Stop getting your mental exercise by jumping to conclusions. 
May you swallow 3 gallons of blue highlighter.

Have somebody change your Depends because your nonsense is stinking up the thread.

FYI the poem you posted "It Has Always Been The Soldier" was written by a Marine Corp Chaplain. As for the grwurston poem you're trying to plagiarize it. You don't even know it was written by a former Marine or an EX Navy Seal depending on which account you choose.

With you, it's not about your lame remarks about people in harms way, but your obvious disdain for Draftees is going to get you into trouble especially if one of those Draftees is a victim of your juvenile pranking near lottery terminals. Tell us about your disdain for Keith L. Ware.

"you are totally lacking in any creativity."

If lack of creativity is quoting the facts, guilty as charged, But only the ignorant poorly educated Trump supporters using lies and innuendos fear the facts. If you have any real facts proving Clinton was responsible for Benghasi, now is the time to show it. The election is next Tuesday and Trump is still losing.

Are your lame childish insults really necessary or is it because it's the only way you can communicate?

dr65's avatardr65

Interesting...4 FBI probes on Clinton Foundation.

Emails 600,000 plus....PLUS the file Life Insurance which was explained by someone as possibly meaning

life insurance in case of someone wanting to stick it to Adedin...as in you do this, I'll reveal this...

Are there any of the bleached emails in that file?

Where is Huma?

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 31, 2016

Interesting...4 FBI probes on Clinton Foundation.

Emails 600,000 plus....PLUS the file Life Insurance which was explained by someone as possibly meaning

life insurance in case of someone wanting to stick it to Adedin...as in you do this, I'll reveal this...

Are there any of the bleached emails in that file?

Where is Huma?

           MIA!!!  maybe she is with KENNY!!!! 

Skibunnylk's avatarSkibunnylk

I think Huma is laying low due to advice from her counsel. Most likely spending much needed time with her child.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Oct 31, 2016

           MIA!!!  maybe she is with KENNY!!!! 

She was trying to climb up a dresser and it fell on her.Thud

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

noise-gate,

It's what Hillary said afterwards about 4 dead Americans and at this point what does it matter that makes the whole thing, and her very suspicious. 

I don't see how anyone can think she is fit to be President or Commander-in-Chief.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Stack,

You need help Thanks for the proof that you jump to conclusions though.

You tell me "FYI the poem you posted was written by a Marine Corp Chaplain."

This is what it says at the end of that poem, where I posted it;

By Father Dennis O'Brien
Chaplain
United States Marines

Go read the post that poem is in. Anyone who reads that post and your FYI comment would know you are not playing with a full deck. 

 Stop being so anxious to criticize others and read the entire post before you start 'commenting' on it. 

Quoting facts huh? So much for your "creativity". You have none. 

I think everyone here is aware you learned a new word, 'childish', Nice self reflection. Your constant attempts to try and be the source of information that others have already posted proves you are the one who is childish. Also a troll, a creep and a moron who is not worth anymore keystrokes.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 31, 2016

noise-gate,

It's what Hillary said afterwards about 4 dead Americans and at this point what does it matter that makes the whole thing, and her very suspicious. 

I don't see how anyone can think she is fit to be President or Commander-in-Chief.

l did a little research Coin Toss and l decided to read the entire transcript. This is the transcript in part.

 Johnson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Madam Secretary. I'd like to join my colleagues in thanking you for your service sincerely, and also appreciate the fact that you’re here testifying and glad that you’re looking in good health.

Clinton: Thank you.

Johnson: Were you fully aware in real time -- and again, I realize how big your job is and everything is erupting in the Middle East at this time -- were you fully aware of these 20 incidents that were reported in the ARB[State Department Accountability Review Board] in real time?

Clinton: I was aware of the ones that were brought to my attention. They were part of our ongoing discussion about the deteriorating threat environment in eastern Libya. We certainly were very conscious of them. I was assured by our security professionals that repairs were under way, additional security upgrades had taken place.

Johnson: Thank you. Did you see personally the cable on -- I believe it was August 12th -- specifically asking for, basically, reinforcements for the security detail that was going to be evacuating or leaving in August? Did you see that personally?

Clinton: No, sir.

Johnson: OK. When you read the ARB, it strikes me as how certain the people were that the attacks started at 9:40 Benghazi time. When was the first time you spoke to -- or have you ever spoken to -- the returnees, the evacuees? Did you personally speak to those folks?

Clinton: I‘ve spoken to one of them, but I waited until after the ARB had done its investigation because I did not want there to be anybody raising any issue that I had spoken to anyone before the ARB conducted its investigation.

Clinton: Senator, you know, when you’re in these positions, the last thing you want to do is interfere with any other process going on, number one—

Johnson: I realize that’s a good excuse.

Clinton: Well, no, it’s the fact. Number two, I would recommend highly you read both what the ARB said about it and the classified ARB because, even today, there are questions being raised. Now, we have no doubt they were terrorists, they were militants, they attacked us, they killed our people. But what was going on and why they were doing what they were doing is still unknown --

Johnson: No, again, we were misled that there were supposedly protests and that something sprang out of that -- an assault sprang out of that -- and that was easily ascertained that that was not the fact, and the American people could have known that within days and they didn’t know that.

Clinton: With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. Now, honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best information. The IC has a process, I understand, going with the other committees to explain how these talking points came out. But you know, to be clear, it is, from my perspective, less important today looking backwards as to why these militants decided they did it than to find them and bring them to justice, and then maybe we’ll figure out what was going on in the meantime.

Johnson: OK. Thank you, Madame Secretary.

 

Cherry picking a line from an entire paragraph is disingenuous, especially when you want to make a person look bad.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Oct 31, 2016

Stack,

You need help Thanks for the proof that you jump to conclusions though.

You tell me "FYI the poem you posted was written by a Marine Corp Chaplain."

This is what it says at the end of that poem, where I posted it;

By Father Dennis O'Brien
Chaplain
United States Marines

Go read the post that poem is in. Anyone who reads that post and your FYI comment would know you are not playing with a full deck. 

 Stop being so anxious to criticize others and read the entire post before you start 'commenting' on it. 

Quoting facts huh? So much for your "creativity". You have none. 

I think everyone here is aware you learned a new word, 'childish', Nice self reflection. Your constant attempts to try and be the source of information that others have already posted proves you are the one who is childish. Also a troll, a creep and a moron who is not worth anymore keystrokes.

"This is what it says at the end of that poem, where I posted it"

Except for the part you left out. You'll never get it, but for the others reading this, the poem Coin Toss posted was written in 1988 when Reagan was President.

"Stop being so anxious to criticize"

But just like with that poem you posted, you're always usually dead wrong.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Oct 31, 2016

l did a little research Coin Toss and l decided to read the entire transcript. This is the transcript in part.

 Johnson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Madam Secretary. I'd like to join my colleagues in thanking you for your service sincerely, and also appreciate the fact that you’re here testifying and glad that you’re looking in good health.

Clinton: Thank you.

Johnson: Were you fully aware in real time -- and again, I realize how big your job is and everything is erupting in the Middle East at this time -- were you fully aware of these 20 incidents that were reported in the ARB[State Department Accountability Review Board] in real time?

Clinton: I was aware of the ones that were brought to my attention. They were part of our ongoing discussion about the deteriorating threat environment in eastern Libya. We certainly were very conscious of them. I was assured by our security professionals that repairs were under way, additional security upgrades had taken place.

Johnson: Thank you. Did you see personally the cable on -- I believe it was August 12th -- specifically asking for, basically, reinforcements for the security detail that was going to be evacuating or leaving in August? Did you see that personally?

Clinton: No, sir.

Johnson: OK. When you read the ARB, it strikes me as how certain the people were that the attacks started at 9:40 Benghazi time. When was the first time you spoke to -- or have you ever spoken to -- the returnees, the evacuees? Did you personally speak to those folks?

Clinton: I‘ve spoken to one of them, but I waited until after the ARB had done its investigation because I did not want there to be anybody raising any issue that I had spoken to anyone before the ARB conducted its investigation.

Clinton: Senator, you know, when you’re in these positions, the last thing you want to do is interfere with any other process going on, number one—

Johnson: I realize that’s a good excuse.

Clinton: Well, no, it’s the fact. Number two, I would recommend highly you read both what the ARB said about it and the classified ARB because, even today, there are questions being raised. Now, we have no doubt they were terrorists, they were militants, they attacked us, they killed our people. But what was going on and why they were doing what they were doing is still unknown --

Johnson: No, again, we were misled that there were supposedly protests and that something sprang out of that -- an assault sprang out of that -- and that was easily ascertained that that was not the fact, and the American people could have known that within days and they didn’t know that.

Clinton: With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. Now, honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best information. The IC has a process, I understand, going with the other committees to explain how these talking points came out. But you know, to be clear, it is, from my perspective, less important today looking backwards as to why these militants decided they did it than to find them and bring them to justice, and then maybe we’ll figure out what was going on in the meantime.

Johnson: OK. Thank you, Madame Secretary.

 

Cherry picking a line from an entire paragraph is disingenuous, especially when you want to make a person look bad.

Clinton: With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator.

I've probably over used the term "poorly educated", but when Trump says that about his supporters and flat out lies about backing W's war in Iraq, it's should be obvious his supporters will perpetuates any nonsense that enters their "poorly educated" minds.

dr65's avatardr65

Double standards...it's really sooo awful what Trump said yet the WH can laugh and rub elbows

with rappers who use trash lyrics about rape, drugs and loose women..and THAT'S  ok with Obama

and Michele and Hillary. 

Hillary is trying to appeal to the young voters, that's it..she will associate with anyone to get votes.

There was an email frm Wikileaks where the campaign put down young voters - this 'friendship'

even with the rot lyrics, appeals to the same voting class she wants to gain an edge with.

http://www.infowars.com/shocking-michele-obama-hillary-caught-glamorizing-date-rape-promoters/

dr65's avatardr65

Mainstream media finally OPENS THEIR EYES and their MOUTHS...no matter why they do it, it's that they

ARE doing it...although the why of it is that everyone who spent months and months and months supporting

Hillary and pushing her and glorifying her are now wondering how to fix this for their futures...the way to do

it is finally opening their eyes and taking the gag off their mouths and reporting the absolute corruption we

all knew about for so long...CNN, MSNBC, all of them..newspapers too...

I believe we can stick a fork in her. She's done.

https://youtu.be/Ij8PH9nDT-o

noise-gate

Image result for if you tell a lie big enough quote

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Oct 30, 2016

How does a non-US citizen (((accidentally))) register to vote?   Give me a F'n break King!

As it said, Virginia residents are automatically given a voter registration form when they get their drivers license. I can totally see new immigrants fill it out without realizing what it is or that you need to be a citizen to vote.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Oct 30, 2016

1000 is more than "a bunch".

31 of whom voted a total of 186 times. 

http://dailysignal.com/2016/10/04/virginia-hasnt-stopped-noncitizens-from-voting-watchdog-finds/

And that was only in 8 counties. Who knows how many in the rest of VA's 133 counties?

So 31 voters out off almost 500,000 non-citizen residents

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/new-americans-virginia

Meanwhile 600,000 legal voters have been disenfranchised in Texas

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2016/05/got-id

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 30, 2016

It's the same old "preaching to the choir" because they are the only ones believing it. Just look around, when was the last time someone on this thread said they were "undecided" but someone like Coin Toss convinced them to vote for Trump?

A bubble full of lies has destroyed one of the major political parties. You gotta pop it whenever you can.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

noise-gate,

So why did she yell it? 

And let's factor in she's a proven pathological liar, the truth isn't in her.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

The Voter-ID Myth Crashes

Voting is a semi-sacred act of civic religion. Trust that only those eligible are determining our future as a nation is the foundation of civic peace. Voter-ID laws should be just one part of ensuring voter integrity. When Democrats resist those measures, it only feeds suspicion that they’re trying to steal elections.

"Trying"???  They have and still do.

Voter I.D. chart

If you don't know there's a huge difference between having a college I.D. - which can be created by some clever kid with a good printer - or a gun license - which requires an extensive background check - then you're too stupid and shouldn't be allowed to vote. 

NO ONE is "disenfranchised" due to Voter I.D. laws. At the very least, it weeds out those too lazy or stupid to get one.

IOW, your average Democrat voter.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Nov 1, 2016

A bubble full of lies has destroyed one of the major political parties. You gotta pop it whenever you can.

You need to stick to popping your zits.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Nov 1, 2016

You need to stick to popping your zits.

LOL.

Mike. That's funny!!!

Thanks for giving me a good morning laugh before work.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 1, 2016

noise-gate,

So why did she yell it? 

And let's factor in she's a proven pathological liar, the truth isn't in her.

Coin Toss- you a smart guy, look at what Senator Johnson said- he wanted specific wording on " it was a terrorist attack or whatever" her point was 4 Americans had already been killed- whether by guys taking a stroll & deciding let's go kill folks or just an assault.. Her shouting was because Johnson was acting like a dumb** which he was.Point being if someone was shot on the Los Vegas strip- what difference would it make if it was a drive by shooting or someone coming close up to the victim? ..they were killed.

Come on Man.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Sure, it's all on the square;

Top DOJ official Involved in clinton probe represented Podesta-clinton chairman
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/01/kept-me-out-jail-top-doj-official-involved-in-clinton-probe-represented-her-campaign-chairman.html
www.foxnews.com
The Justice Department official in charge of informing Congress about the newly reactivated Hillary Clinton email probe is a political appointee and former private ...
noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 1, 2016

Sure, it's all on the square;

Top DOJ official Involved in clinton probe represented Podesta-clinton chairman
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/01/kept-me-out-jail-top-doj-official-involved-in-clinton-probe-represented-her-campaign-chairman.html
www.foxnews.com
The Justice Department official in charge of informing Congress about the newly reactivated Hillary Clinton email probe is a political appointee and former private ...

Shocking, simply shocking. I read lot's of news reports & found this. It's a piece by Barbara Streisand in the Huffington Post. 

It read " Individuals in the bush administration deleted 22 million emails. Where was the FBI then? As the WH  began firing the independent US attorneys,  Karl Rove WS deleting his emails and later held in contempt of Congress. What's the word for that? Shocking? 

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 1, 2016

Shocking, simply shocking. I read lot's of news reports & found this. It's a piece by Barbara Streisand in the Huffington Post. 

It read " Individuals in the bush administration deleted 22 million emails. Where was the FBI then? As the WH  began firing the independent US attorneys,  Karl Rove WS deleting his emails and later held in contempt of Congress. What's the word for that? Shocking? 

Are we supposed to leave current events that have not been resolved untouched and allow anyone with a record

of wrongdoing in the WH? Her rap sheet stinks.

She's been in politics for a very long time. She knows the drill. She knows the ups and downs and what's right and 

wrong.

She's done plenty wrong.

Why let her in there if her term will be filled with more of what she's already done?

There is a job detail for this position. Along with the most obvious, these also include virtue, truth, integrity, dependability,

consistency and accountability. She has consistently failed in showing she possesses any of these qualities.

No one is dragging her down. She did that to herself by her words and actions. Her charity is corrupt and so is she.

The trust issue is what is driving people away. She cannot be trusted not to lie to us. We are electing a President.

Why anyone would want to give such power to a person who lies, cheats and steals is the important issue.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Oct 31, 2016

Double standards...it's really sooo awful what Trump said yet the WH can laugh and rub elbows

with rappers who use trash lyrics about rape, drugs and loose women..and THAT'S  ok with Obama

and Michele and Hillary. 

Hillary is trying to appeal to the young voters, that's it..she will associate with anyone to get votes.

There was an email frm Wikileaks where the campaign put down young voters - this 'friendship'

even with the rot lyrics, appeals to the same voting class she wants to gain an edge with.

http://www.infowars.com/shocking-michele-obama-hillary-caught-glamorizing-date-rape-promoters/

I agree about the rappers who are repeated guest of the Obama's but there is a convicted felon who has visited the WH over a hundred times...I'm guessing to talk about his kids and golf.

Michelle Obama always seems to take the high road when it comes to woman's issues but fails to see the hypocrisy with her crude, racist, rapper friends.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Nov 1, 2016

I agree about the rappers who are repeated guest of the Obama's but there is a convicted felon who has visited the WH over a hundred times...I'm guessing to talk about his kids and golf.

Michelle Obama always seems to take the high road when it comes to woman's issues but fails to see the hypocrisy with her crude, racist, rapper friends.

Dont forget her wonderful role model Beyonce, with her "shake your moneymaker" lowlife husband.   Half Time disgusting dance moves and half dressed, Black Power arm raise.  Oh yea she is an excellent role model, what a crock.  Not to mention some pretty vile photos of her online.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Nov 1, 2016

Dont forget her wonderful role model Beyonce, with her "shake your moneymaker" lowlife husband.   Half Time disgusting dance moves and half dressed, Black Power arm raise.  Oh yea she is an excellent role model, what a crock.  Not to mention some pretty vile photos of her online.

Yeah and Hillary trying to get in with the in crowd of young black and white voters by talking about how great

Beyonce is...well, for what Beyonce became I don't think she's a role model for anything. Her and her husband

are part of what's wrong with race today. They glorify it by making money off of it but do nothing to stop it with

raunchy lyrics and story telling and video. They promote hate, anger and worse and the cop killer rappers, they're

responsible too for this and why Obama and Michelle accept that is another mystery. I guess they want to fool

the people that they embrace their black side...well that's no black side I know of...It's not okay when it comes to

people in power laughing like it's ok to kill, to rape, to assault etc. Black people are a lot better than that.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Nov 1, 2016

I agree about the rappers who are repeated guest of the Obama's but there is a convicted felon who has visited the WH over a hundred times...I'm guessing to talk about his kids and golf.

Michelle Obama always seems to take the high road when it comes to woman's issues but fails to see the hypocrisy with her crude, racist, rapper friends.

So up on the actions and statements of others but can't see the trouble with her own actions...maybe it's meant to be

that way in that, if they appear to accept all, that makes them admirable. Well, it doesn't in my book. I respect someone

who rejects what is wrong no matter what cost. Terrible mixed messages going on. No wonder some kids today are in major

need of help.

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Nov 1, 2016

Dont forget her wonderful role model Beyonce, with her "shake your moneymaker" lowlife husband.   Half Time disgusting dance moves and half dressed, Black Power arm raise.  Oh yea she is an excellent role model, what a crock.  Not to mention some pretty vile photos of her online.

        I Agree!   yeah some role model.... I never could watch her talk on TV anymore cause she reminds me of a Chip Monk with all those teeth and her cheeks all puffed out .. she might be a  he/she with the way she claps her hands ...  I never saw any one clap with their hands straight up against each other like she does...... she has some weird body language going on...

Dee88's avatarDee88

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Nov 1, 2016

I agree about the rappers who are repeated guest of the Obama's but there is a convicted felon who has visited the WH over a hundred times...I'm guessing to talk about his kids and golf.

Michelle Obama always seems to take the high road when it comes to woman's issues but fails to see the hypocrisy with her crude, racist, rapper friends.

           I Agree!       You took the words right out of my mouth Drenick1.... Thumbs Up  and you  know what...and behind Hillary's back.... Obama and Michelle are having fun laughing at her and can't wait till this election is over so they don't have anything more to do with them....and Hillary and Bill are thinking the same thing.... Talk about TWO FACE people all of them are TWO FACE......

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Nov 1, 2016

Are we supposed to leave current events that have not been resolved untouched and allow anyone with a record

of wrongdoing in the WH? Her rap sheet stinks.

She's been in politics for a very long time. She knows the drill. She knows the ups and downs and what's right and 

wrong.

She's done plenty wrong.

Why let her in there if her term will be filled with more of what she's already done?

There is a job detail for this position. Along with the most obvious, these also include virtue, truth, integrity, dependability,

consistency and accountability. She has consistently failed in showing she possesses any of these qualities.

No one is dragging her down. She did that to herself by her words and actions. Her charity is corrupt and so is she.

The trust issue is what is driving people away. She cannot be trusted not to lie to us. We are electing a President.

Why anyone would want to give such power to a person who lies, cheats and steals is the important issue.

Oh she knows the drill alright. She has been hounded for decades and guess what- she is still standing. Which brings up the first line in your response:and l ask  what has been resolved from the bush emails? In a word- Nothing. There is something to be said about some people whether it's in politics or any other occupation in life, you get all kinds ofBS thrown at you year after year,  you end up building a veneer of resistance to it. It may well be that all the crap thrown at her going back decades has made her almost bulletproof. The Republicans created this situation,  now you have to live with it. If she has done something wrong,  she ought to answer for it- but until then good luck in seeing Trump beating her next week.You say her foundation is corrupt & so is she.That foundation has been in existence long before she became SOS, if it is corrupt,  provide the evidence,  not guesswork. By the way the country is looking for a President, not someone affiliated with the clergy- if that was the case, Pat Robertson would have been elected President a long time ago.Word to the wise All politicians lie, every single one of them. Including Reagan, remember Iran Contra?  And to think the Republicans wanted him on Mt Rushmore until they were told that adding another would bring the whole darn thing down- Goodbye Mt R. Oh the horror! 

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Dee88 on Nov 1, 2016

        I Agree!   yeah some role model.... I never could watch her talk on TV anymore cause she reminds me of a Chip Monk with all those teeth and her cheeks all puffed out .. she might be a  he/she with the way she claps her hands ...  I never saw any one clap with their hands straight up against each other like she does...... she has some weird body language going on...

LOL a chipmunk. 

I remember when she was in Austin Powers with Mike Myers I thought it was funny and she was good in it.  But once she met that thing called a husband she changed dramatically.  With him it was all about the $$$$, power and control and her videos turned dark and raunchy. 

Reminded me of Whitney Houston who WAS a class act until Bobby Brown showed up.  Whitney had an absolute gift from God with her voice and I feel to this day she had the best voice I ever heard.  Dont know where the drug abuse came from if she had the problem or if he brought it to her but their life together was their downfall.  That is one tragic story and it didnt end with her death.

Sorry got off the subject there a bit lol.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 1, 2016

Coin Toss- you a smart guy, look at what Senator Johnson said- he wanted specific wording on " it was a terrorist attack or whatever" her point was 4 Americans had already been killed- whether by guys taking a stroll & deciding let's go kill folks or just an assault.. Her shouting was because Johnson was acting like a dumb** which he was.Point being if someone was shot on the Los Vegas strip- what difference would it make if it was a drive by shooting or someone coming close up to the victim? ..they were killed.

Come on Man.

noise-gate,

Obama says "Come on man" so now you say it?

Come on man!

Green laugh

Seriously, I've always preferred C'mon will ya but either one works.

Perhaps there should be a Come on will ya thread in discussions, could start off with something like;

The people who say they hate quick picks are the first to buy raffle tickets, come on will ya!

Smile

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 1, 2016

noise-gate,

Obama says "Come on man" so now you say it?

Come on man!

Green laugh

Seriously, I've always preferred C'mon will ya but either one works.

Perhaps there should be a Come on will ya thread in discussions, could start off with something like;

The people who say they hate quick picks are the first to buy raffle tickets, come on will ya!

Smile

First off: l hardly ever follow what he says.The last time I read what he had to say was when he went after Darrel Issa in San Diego who posted a campaign picture of himself with Obama signing some legislation. Obama said here is a guy who has stonewalled me at every turn yet here he is using my pic along with his campaign. The only other time I have read what he had to say through a youtube piece where he mentioned some key reporters leaving him & where he said " Jake Tapper left journalism to join CNN" That got a hoot out of those in the room.l believe in God so when l say that's the honest truth,  l would expect people to take my word for something as trivial as this since l do not profit from lies and hate being around people who openly lie. If people don't believe, well so be it. If Obama said " Come on Man" it's purely coincidental.

** Perhaps this is fortuitous of me winning the lottery CT. 

noise-gate

Hmm- l wonder how many fell for the fake news Sean Hannity was crowing about earlier today where supposedly Michelle & Obama " unfollowed" Hillary only to end up apologizing for his lack of vision. Without property checking the source,  he ran with it. lt tells you that fake news can be picked up and passed off as the real thing and suckers will fall for it every time. 

grwurston's avatargrwurston

(CNN)Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are neck-and-neck in a new national tracking poll out Tuesday morning.

The latest ABC News/The Washington Post offering showed Trump barely edging Clinton among likely voters, 46%-45%, well within the poll's 3 percentage point margin of error.
How about that!!!
noise-gate

Neck and Neck?

Image result for people laughing  Image result for people laughing

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Nov 1, 2016

The Voter-ID Myth Crashes

Voting is a semi-sacred act of civic religion. Trust that only those eligible are determining our future as a nation is the foundation of civic peace. Voter-ID laws should be just one part of ensuring voter integrity. When Democrats resist those measures, it only feeds suspicion that they’re trying to steal elections.

"Trying"???  They have and still do.

Voter I.D. chart

If you don't know there's a huge difference between having a college I.D. - which can be created by some clever kid with a good printer - or a gun license - which requires an extensive background check - then you're too stupid and shouldn't be allowed to vote. 

NO ONE is "disenfranchised" due to Voter I.D. laws. At the very least, it weeds out those too lazy or stupid to get one.

IOW, your average Democrat voter.

Again, it's not bad to require it IF the government goes out and provides the necessary identification in order to vote at no expense or very low expense. And no, college ID's are FAR more advanced than you can ever imagine. . Never applied for a gun license so, unlike you, i will not claim that i have any idea as to how good it is, but if you can't see the clear as daylight disenfranchisement going on then i have no words to describe your ignorance. 

Your own link says it clearly "Voter-ID laws will not prevent non-citizens from voting. Green-card holders and even illegal aliens get driver’s licenses". Your own link says the truth. 


Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 1, 2016

Coin Toss- you a smart guy, look at what Senator Johnson said- he wanted specific wording on " it was a terrorist attack or whatever" her point was 4 Americans had already been killed- whether by guys taking a stroll & deciding let's go kill folks or just an assault.. Her shouting was because Johnson was acting like a dumb** which he was.Point being if someone was shot on the Los Vegas strip- what difference would it make if it was a drive by shooting or someone coming close up to the victim? ..they were killed.

Come on Man.

What difference does it make showing the facts when they will believe whatever they want? It made no difference to Rep. Jason Chaffetz that James Comey never said the FBI was reopening the Clinton case.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 2, 2016

What difference does it make showing the facts when they will believe whatever they want? It made no difference to Rep. Jason Chaffetz that James Comey never said the FBI was reopening the Clinton case.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/26/gop-rep-jason-chaffetz-says-his-conscience-wont-let-him-support-donald-trump-just-vote-for-him/

How Chaffetz hasn't been laughed out of congress yet speaks to how insular and unprincipled the small tent party has become.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 2, 2016

What difference does it make showing the facts when they will believe whatever they want? It made no difference to Rep. Jason Chaffetz that James Comey never said the FBI was reopening the Clinton case.

l heard it said Stack that Jason has " promised" his district that he will open one hearing after another on Clinton if she becomes President.If his district is foolish enough to send him back to Washington based on that alone, they just as clueless as he is.This vengeful action all started with Gingrich.Finally his own party kicked his sorry A** to the curb. Another sack of liquid crap is that Texan Sid " Vicious" Miller.Calling Hillary the C-word.Then he tried blaming it on someone hacking into his twitter account. Nice try Sid- you got found out.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Nov 1, 2016

(CNN)Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are neck-and-neck in a new national tracking poll out Tuesday morning.

The latest ABC News/The Washington Post offering showed Trump barely edging Clinton among likely voters, 46%-45%, well within the poll's 3 percentage point margin of error.
How about that!!!

It takes 270 to win and Al Gore got 266 in 2000 so the question can Trump win the same states as Bush or will Clinton win one or two states that voted for Bush. Gore won Iowa's 7 votes, but Trump is currently leading there. The thing is, Bush won Virginia, Colorado, and New Hampshire where currently Clinton has substantial leads.

It's simple math, Clinton has 272 Electoral votes in Democrat likely states so even if Trump wins all the leaning Democrat states and all the battle ground states, he can't win. Can you show me one poll where Trump is leading in any likely Democrat state and/or leading in Virginia, Colorado, or New Hampshire?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Nov 2, 2016

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/26/gop-rep-jason-chaffetz-says-his-conscience-wont-let-him-support-donald-trump-just-vote-for-him/

How Chaffetz hasn't been laughed out of congress yet speaks to how insular and unprincipled the small tent party has become.

When the smoke clears it will be Tea Party, regular, and Trump Republicans and if they somehow manage to retain the House, they will lose it in 2018.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 2, 2016

l heard it said Stack that Jason has " promised" his district that he will open one hearing after another on Clinton if she becomes President.If his district is foolish enough to send him back to Washington based on that alone, they just as clueless as he is.This vengeful action all started with Gingrich.Finally his own party kicked his sorry A** to the curb. Another sack of liquid crap is that Texan Sid " Vicious" Miller.Calling Hillary the C-word.Then he tried blaming it on someone hacking into his twitter account. Nice try Sid- you got found out.

For some reason the anti-Clinton crowd here has ignored the Senate races and the adverse Trump effect. The current polls show the Democrats solidly leading in enough states where they will have at least 52 Senate seats and the majority.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I expect the polls to widen, when Trump goes high, Hilda goes low.

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 2, 2016

It takes 270 to win and Al Gore got 266 in 2000 so the question can Trump win the same states as Bush or will Clinton win one or two states that voted for Bush. Gore won Iowa's 7 votes, but Trump is currently leading there. The thing is, Bush won Virginia, Colorado, and New Hampshire where currently Clinton has substantial leads.

It's simple math, Clinton has 272 Electoral votes in Democrat likely states so even if Trump wins all the leaning Democrat states and all the battle ground states, he can't win. Can you show me one poll where Trump is leading in any likely Democrat state and/or leading in Virginia, Colorado, or New Hampshire?

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 2, 2016

It takes 270 to win and Al Gore got 266 in 2000 so the question can Trump win the same states as Bush or will Clinton win one or two states that voted for Bush. Gore won Iowa's 7 votes, but Trump is currently leading there. The thing is, Bush won Virginia, Colorado, and New Hampshire where currently Clinton has substantial leads.

It's simple math, Clinton has 272 Electoral votes in Democrat likely states so even if Trump wins all the leaning Democrat states and all the battle ground states, he can't win. Can you show me one poll where Trump is leading in any likely Democrat state and/or leading in Virginia, Colorado, or New Hampshire?

http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20160907/emerson-poll-finds-clintons-lead-over-trump-precariously-thin-in-ri

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/co/colorado_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5974.html#polls

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-6022.html#polls

Now is not the time to be overconfident. The elites decided that Trump was so terrible that they could put up their worst candidate and still win. I agree that Hillary will probably win them, but the fact that these states aren't +40 speaks volumes on how terrible the elites miscalculated at the worst possile time.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Nov 2, 2016

Again, it's not bad to require it IF the government goes out and provides the necessary identification in order to vote at no expense or very low expense. And no, college ID's are FAR more advanced than you can ever imagine. . Never applied for a gun license so, unlike you, i will not claim that i have any idea as to how good it is, but if you can't see the clear as daylight disenfranchisement going on then i have no words to describe your ignorance. 

Your own link says it clearly "Voter-ID laws will not prevent non-citizens from voting. Green-card holders and even illegal aliens get driver’s licenses". Your own link says the truth. 


If you're a resident of Texas, you can get a free Voter I.D.  You just have to make the effort to go get one...and provide proof that you are who you say you are.

And yes, anybody with any graphics skill can create a college I.D.   They're not any more "advanced" than the limited intellect needed to get a degree these days. You're living proof of that. 

You're the ignorant one if you think that hundreds of thousands will be disenfranchised by actually having to prove they are who they say they are and are, in fact, eligible to vote.  The only people who want people to be able to vote w/out having to show a valid I.D. are those who want to cheat.   You know, the crooks, the thieves, the liars... the Dems and Socialists, all the Constitution-hating rat-b*st*rds.

"You're the ignorant one if...." I take that back.  There's no "if" to it.  You're ignorant and a liar.  Every time you post you show your abject ignorance and lack of veracity.

Oh, and you're being your usual duplicitous self by leaving out the rest of the paragraph:

Voter-ID laws will not prevent non-citizens from voting. Green-card holders and even illegal aliens get driver’s licenses. But that’s not an argument against voter ID. It’s an argument for issuing driver’s licenses that specify non-citizenship.

(see? I can make big letters, too!)

Game, set, match - ME! I destroyed your argument yet once again.  Wanna give up or are you hungry for more?
dr65's avatardr65

Who cares about who follows who on FAKEBOOK...take it with a grain of salt. 

Afterall, when you apologize you're good as new right? Or does that depend on who it's coming from?

In Trump's case, no apology is good enough but I'll tell you what...his apologies are more genuine and

fall within the definition of one. Hillary's apologies are - well, if I have to but let me get it out quick and

make it not seem like I did anything wrong then say later time after time after time, I apologized. Yeah,

right.

dr65's avatardr65

Hillary, give it up. She's as much smear campaign as anyone else. Let's take Hillary's outburst about

fossil fuels and use it as a temper gauge...

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/274848-clinton-gets-in-heated-exchange-with-environmental-activist 

She's a nasty witch. Imagine the yelling and nasty, clenched teeth and fists when she doesn't get her way in the WH..

her secret service people know how she is and you can see it on her face too, she's an ugly, old, miserable, angry witch.

She wants to constantly remind people of how anti-woman Trump is...that's a joke. I'm am so sick of Hillary bringing up

the morally deficient Machado as a campaign tool. Maybe she can be her new aide since Huma is on the hot seat.

These women will fade into the background if Hillary is elected, the only reason they matter now is for their vote and

other weak women's votes who believe what Hillary tells them. Just live your life, don't fall for someone who is out there

to make you weak and hang on an issue that just drags you down. Emphasis on women's issues is Hillary's tool to make

women think they need more. I see enough high profile women out there, enough successful women and women who

are strong in their own right.

noise-gate

She may be ugly old & miserable but people are not looking for that this time around. If people were voting for beauty,  youth & being constantly upbeat- that's not Trump either. His old, ugly & miserable,  that's why they not voting for him.His only draw is entertainment & having not so deep pockets. Don't believe ?- just watch. Let's see who of the two uglies come out ahead next week. Big Smile

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Nov 2, 2016

Here you go.

https://youtu.be/zaOoFH8HHrk

LMAO!Yep, you got me, I didn't say "reputable" pool.

Do you think those videos will convince lots of the Trump supporters to bet everything they have on him winning the election?

dr65's avatardr65

Oh Trump is ugly too but only physically. Hillary is nasty and ugly down to the bone. Nasty runs in her veins. 

The difference here is people know what she did when she was in a position of authority. They know what she

does in a position of overseeing charity. Have you seen any photos recently of Haiti? ALL charity groups there 

should be ashamed of themselves but since Hillary is very relevant today, we need to look at what her charity

did in Haiti. They funneled very, very little of the total amount of donations they received there. Haiti looks like

it didn't get one red cent yet was the driving force for almost $500 billion in donations. 

Hillary has the public spotlight, she's held to a firmer standard because of that and that's the way it should be. If

you are considering the right person for the job, you look at more than just experience in government. You must

look at the integrity in which that experience was and is utilized. She is very lacking in the dependable leadership

department.

Knowingly elect corruption, FBI woes, bad judgements, lies and excuses, that is exactly what you can expect to see

her doing as President of the USA...only more so because she will have entered office with an arrogant smugness.

That will cause her to do things that were wrong in the past. We pay for that. And lots will be sorry for it too.

dr65's avatardr65

I really wish this Obama would go away now..

CNN reporting electing Trump will undo Obama's legacy...quote: Obama.

He is responsible for fanning racial issues. 

This 'fake' black man has absolutely no connection with what it is to be black in America and especially

what it takes to be black in a project.

What exactly IS his legacy..he has none. Black people today are no better off with him than without him.

Trayvon was like a son to him...is THAT his legacy that he's full of shyt and taking someone else's son on

since he didn't have one of his own...until one of his daughters die and he feels what it's like he had no

business saying he was like a son....that's more gather around the campfire bs. He's good at that. I could

hear the queen of England tell me that she feels for white people and I'd say the same thing, BS. They are

above any feeling, any correlation and any empathy for race, especially disadvantaged race. They don't care

and will always act like they do. When they go home to their million dollar houses, what do you think they're

doing? Crying over racism? Fretting over police deaths? Losing any sleep over BLM? No. They are enjoying life

so far above the people who need them that they will never have anything near something called a legacy.

Their legacy serves them, not us.

dr65's avatardr65

Oh and more double speak..it's a shocker to Democrats to hear that Trump will let us know if he accepts the election

results but Obama is saying that if Trump gets in everything he's done will be unwound and the people can't let him

in. So he clearly has a preference and let him but to hear him say it in his terms, it's no different than not accepting

a Trump win.

And if you listened to the awe struck Dems, that's important, no matter who is elected.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Nov 2, 2016

Oh and more double speak..it's a shocker to Democrats to hear that Trump will let us know if he accepts the election

results but Obama is saying that if Trump gets in everything he's done will be unwound and the people can't let him

in. So he clearly has a preference and let him but to hear him say it in his terms, it's no different than not accepting

a Trump win.

And if you listened to the awe struck Dems, that's important, no matter who is elected.

dr65, that is the exact reason I voted for Trump.  Obama has put us in the toilet and electing Hillary will flush it and us.  There is not one law, regulation, executive order Odumbo put through that I agree with. 

The only thing I say about Odumbo is his words "I am going to FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM"  America and by God he did.  That transformation is not what I wanted.  He got elected and I gave him the benefit of the doubt and thought Ok, lets hope he does a good job.  Within ONE week I knew we were in trouble and it has been trouble ever since. 

I also believe there was something very wrong with his re-election. So many were so disillusioned with him there was no way he could get a second term.  My opinion only.

Good Riddance Obama!

noise-gate

Ugly only " physically"- surely you jest. What do you call going after a married woman while your wife is pregnant,  which really is besides the point. What do you call someone mocking disabled people,insulting John McCain for being captured, calling contestants fat, encouraging violence? I say that person has a dark soul.

I have yet to read of a taped conversation of Hillary talking about attempting to nail a married man - wake me up when they find the tape, my young apprentice! 

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Nov 1, 2016

The Voter-ID Myth Crashes

Voting is a semi-sacred act of civic religion. Trust that only those eligible are determining our future as a nation is the foundation of civic peace. Voter-ID laws should be just one part of ensuring voter integrity. When Democrats resist those measures, it only feeds suspicion that they’re trying to steal elections.

"Trying"???  They have and still do.

Voter I.D. chart

If you don't know there's a huge difference between having a college I.D. - which can be created by some clever kid with a good printer - or a gun license - which requires an extensive background check - then you're too stupid and shouldn't be allowed to vote. 

NO ONE is "disenfranchised" due to Voter I.D. laws. At the very least, it weeds out those too lazy or stupid to get one.

IOW, your average Democrat voter.

MIT:

Don't D govment trust D citizens of D konthry of D US of A ???

Are U beter off today dan the dey  U graduate from D US of A

govment "garder" when U were 20 ????????????????? yers hold?

MUST NOT if >>>> ID " REQUIRED " 

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Nov 1, 2016

Yeah and Hillary trying to get in with the in crowd of young black and white voters by talking about how great

Beyonce is...well, for what Beyonce became I don't think she's a role model for anything. Her and her husband

are part of what's wrong with race today. They glorify it by making money off of it but do nothing to stop it with

raunchy lyrics and story telling and video. They promote hate, anger and worse and the cop killer rappers, they're

responsible too for this and why Obama and Michelle accept that is another mystery. I guess they want to fool

the people that they embrace their black side...well that's no black side I know of...It's not okay when it comes to

people in power laughing like it's ok to kill, to rape, to assault etc. Black people are a lot better than that.

dr65:

Thinking of...time to start "worrings" now all U Trump fans. Hilliary.......got Trump on the  run, run, run cause she gone eXpose him for raping a #!#13#!# YEAR OLD GIRL!

             Thud Trump eXXXposed now by Hill coming to UR home soon Thud

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 2, 2016

Ugly only " physically"- surely you jest. What do you call going after a married woman while your wife is pregnant,  which really is besides the point. What do you call someone mocking disabled people,insulting John McCain for being captured, calling contestants fat, encouraging violence? I say that person has a dark soul.

I have yet to read of a taped conversation of Hillary talking about attempting to nail a married man - wake me up when they find the tape, my young apprentice! 

You are a funnel for all the brain pounding the likes of CNN fed you since this race began. 

No, I don't call that ugly I call that normal. And if Hillary wants to stand up and call it anything else, she's

a hypocrite. She's married to a guy who did the same thing and worse...who knows how many married women

he hit on and hit up. AND yes, it does matter because it sure wasn't love that kept them together all these years.

It was political agenda. She accepted what he did not out of forgiveness but out of selfishness. She threatened

women, hired people to harass and threaten them too. She took bad money while SOS...she lied to Congress

and the FBI. She was a political figure for 30 years...she was an attorney who defended a 41 y/o piece of crap who

put a 14 year old girl in the hospital in a coma and she needed reconstructive surgery for her internal injuries

which left her not being able to have children..she was forced to take the case LMAO..she should have QUIT.

She takes money from Saudi Arabia who practice sexual mutilation on women, but that doesn't matter...their

$25 million dollar donation does though...GIVE IT BACK, just like Trump said..she didn't have much to say then,

did she? She's dirtier than Trump will ever be. The difference is she was in the spotlight for years as a public servant,

a representative and Secretary of State...she was there to be judged. Tell me something Trump did NOW...because

NOW he is in the spotlight...don't tell me about his Chinese steel, his tax returns, his charity, his comments about a

fat pig who had a contract, house keepers, loose women and comments from 11 years ago..The man he was is replaced

by the man he knows he has to be now to do the job. Don't tell me about nuclear war either, anyone can press a button.

All your examples are straight out of the mind controlling political ads meant to dig up stuff from 10 years ago and

longer that do not even matter anymore. Really, you have got to be kidding me. You sound like you wrote the ads.

They sure did work on you.

Hillary has a lifetime of bad blood, bad money, bad decisions and bad lies. She will continue with what she knows.

Bad politics and screwing the American people while she lives high off the hog.

When you or your family is standing in the hospital and a loved one is dying in your arms and they tell you that you can't

be seen because they have to take the Syrian refugee that came in before you because his rice cooker blew up in his face

when he was readying it for the next marathon, tell me you agree with Hillary.

When you lose your job because she enacts some type of law to take care of all the people she wants to harbor because they

need a job and will work for less than you, tell me you agree with Hillary.

When you get some nasty disease in your pants because you sat on a transgender toilet, tell me you agree with Hillary.

When someone talks your wife, daughter, niece, granddaughter into a late term abortion because of her health and she

winds up with mental issues later on because it's a barbaric process of forcing a sharp object into the back of the baby's 

head after they deliver JUST THE HEAD to kill it then deliver the rest of the baby dead and throw it away all the while patting

themselves on the back because they saved the mother at 38 weeks gestation, tell me you agree with Hillary.

When your taxes go up to where you can't sit on your comfortable butt anymore and yap yap about the 3 things you remember

from CNN because you have to get another job to make ends meet, tell me you agree with Hillary.

When your made in USA phone is no longer made in USA and you have to buy Chinese which gives you some effect due to 

cheap plastic, like a brain tumor, tell me you agree with Hillary.

When the plane that's been hi-jacked doesn't make it to where it's going and crashes instead of in a field but on your house,

tell me you agree with Hillary.

When your Social Security is gone, when your home is gone, when you have no car, when you have no food, when you can't

carry a gun, when you don't want a dual bathroom for the man who can't decide whether or not he's a man but can't afford

to get his stuff removed so is still a man comes in your bathroom, when you have no retirement, when you have no money,

when you have no freedom, when you have no rights and when you have no choice....come talk to me then about Trump.

Because you'll be wishing things went his way. Career criminals do not change what they do. The only thing that will change

you is a real HURT put on you because now you're just a little bit too comfortable. You'll be revolting one day. If Trump loses,

we still win because people like you will be belly aching and turning your backs on your Commander in Thief and wondering 

where it all went wrong. 

Stop being a dayum whimp and grow a set instead of letting someone else tell you what you should be looking for in a President.

You don't need a tape, you need a kick in the ass.

You're deprogrammed...

of integrity, self respect, intelligence, common sense, patriotism, honor and a sense of what it truly means to be an American.

You can thank your CNN and main stream media for that...oh and your choice candidate...Hillary Rodham Clinton.

She'll be impeached too if she's elected. Justice is divine.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Nov 2, 2016

Oh and more double speak..it's a shocker to Democrats to hear that Trump will let us know if he accepts the election

results but Obama is saying that if Trump gets in everything he's done will be unwound and the people can't let him

in. So he clearly has a preference and let him but to hear him say it in his terms, it's no different than not accepting

a Trump win.

And if you listened to the awe struck Dems, that's important, no matter who is elected.

"it's a shocker to Democrats to hear that Trump will let us know if he accepts the election results"

It's obvious you didn't hear John Kasich say he wrote in John McCain's name for President. And for all the other Trump supporters who don't have their head buried in the sand, the Republicans who are not voting for Trump or not voting at all is Trump biggest problem.

"but Obama is saying that if Trump gets in everything he's done will be unwound and the people can't let him in."

Actually Trump said he will undo everything probably by magically overriding Congress.

"So he clearly has a preference and let him but to hear him say it in his terms, it's no different than not accepting a Trump win."

First you quoted Trump, pretended Obama said it and then draw conclusions based on your lies. But when there is nothing positive to say about Trump, lying is your only option other than resorting to lame childish name calling.

dr65's avatardr65

psykomo I do believe Bilbo is the girly man, in more ways than one.  No Nod

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Nov 2, 2016

http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20160907/emerson-poll-finds-clintons-lead-over-trump-precariously-thin-in-ri

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/co/colorado_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5974.html#polls

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-6022.html#polls

Now is not the time to be overconfident. The elites decided that Trump was so terrible that they could put up their worst candidate and still win. I agree that Hillary will probably win them, but the fact that these states aren't +40 speaks volumes on how terrible the elites miscalculated at the worst possile time.

In 2012 lots of Democrats stayed home and many Republicans did too. But the difference in that election and this one is the large number of Republicans that said they won't vote for their candidate. A Clinton win in North Carolina closes the door on Trump.

"but the fact that these states aren't +40 speaks volumes on how terrible the elites miscalculated at the worst possile time."

That depends on the voters being polled, but it's highly unlikely any national candidate will get 70% of the vote anywhere.

dr65's avatardr65

Obama will not accept a Trump victory..

explain how this is different...his statements are strong on putting Hillary in there and no one else will save

all that he did for the American people...please, doesn't he have some work to do instead of talking like what he

thinks a black man talks like on the campaign trail? 2 for the price of one...wow, aren't we lucky?

Let his legacy be insulted..he's going out..and good-bye to bad rubbish...he's got some arrogance talking about

legacy...was he interested in legacy when he took over? I don't think so..

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/02/politics/barack-obama-black-voters-donald-trump/

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Nov 2, 2016

You are a funnel for all the brain pounding the likes of CNN fed you since this race began. 

No, I don't call that ugly I call that normal. And if Hillary wants to stand up and call it anything else, she's

a hypocrite. She's married to a guy who did the same thing and worse...who knows how many married women

he hit on and hit up. AND yes, it does matter because it sure wasn't love that kept them together all these years.

It was political agenda. She accepted what he did not out of forgiveness but out of selfishness. She threatened

women, hired people to harass and threaten them too. She took bad money while SOS...she lied to Congress

and the FBI. She was a political figure for 30 years...she was an attorney who defended a 41 y/o piece of crap who

put a 14 year old girl in the hospital in a coma and she needed reconstructive surgery for her internal injuries

which left her not being able to have children..she was forced to take the case LMAO..she should have QUIT.

She takes money from Saudi Arabia who practice sexual mutilation on women, but that doesn't matter...their

$25 million dollar donation does though...GIVE IT BACK, just like Trump said..she didn't have much to say then,

did she? She's dirtier than Trump will ever be. The difference is she was in the spotlight for years as a public servant,

a representative and Secretary of State...she was there to be judged. Tell me something Trump did NOW...because

NOW he is in the spotlight...don't tell me about his Chinese steel, his tax returns, his charity, his comments about a

fat pig who had a contract, house keepers, loose women and comments from 11 years ago..The man he was is replaced

by the man he knows he has to be now to do the job. Don't tell me about nuclear war either, anyone can press a button.

All your examples are straight out of the mind controlling political ads meant to dig up stuff from 10 years ago and

longer that do not even matter anymore. Really, you have got to be kidding me. You sound like you wrote the ads.

They sure did work on you.

Hillary has a lifetime of bad blood, bad money, bad decisions and bad lies. She will continue with what she knows.

Bad politics and screwing the American people while she lives high off the hog.

When you or your family is standing in the hospital and a loved one is dying in your arms and they tell you that you can't

be seen because they have to take the Syrian refugee that came in before you because his rice cooker blew up in his face

when he was readying it for the next marathon, tell me you agree with Hillary.

When you lose your job because she enacts some type of law to take care of all the people she wants to harbor because they

need a job and will work for less than you, tell me you agree with Hillary.

When you get some nasty disease in your pants because you sat on a transgender toilet, tell me you agree with Hillary.

When someone talks your wife, daughter, niece, granddaughter into a late term abortion because of her health and she

winds up with mental issues later on because it's a barbaric process of forcing a sharp object into the back of the baby's 

head after they deliver JUST THE HEAD to kill it then deliver the rest of the baby dead and throw it away all the while patting

themselves on the back because they saved the mother at 38 weeks gestation, tell me you agree with Hillary.

When your taxes go up to where you can't sit on your comfortable butt anymore and yap yap about the 3 things you remember

from CNN because you have to get another job to make ends meet, tell me you agree with Hillary.

When your made in USA phone is no longer made in USA and you have to buy Chinese which gives you some effect due to 

cheap plastic, like a brain tumor, tell me you agree with Hillary.

When the plane that's been hi-jacked doesn't make it to where it's going and crashes instead of in a field but on your house,

tell me you agree with Hillary.

When your Social Security is gone, when your home is gone, when you have no car, when you have no food, when you can't

carry a gun, when you don't want a dual bathroom for the man who can't decide whether or not he's a man but can't afford

to get his stuff removed so is still a man comes in your bathroom, when you have no retirement, when you have no money,

when you have no freedom, when you have no rights and when you have no choice....come talk to me then about Trump.

Because you'll be wishing things went his way. Career criminals do not change what they do. The only thing that will change

you is a real HURT put on you because now you're just a little bit too comfortable. You'll be revolting one day. If Trump loses,

we still win because people like you will be belly aching and turning your backs on your Commander in Thief and wondering 

where it all went wrong. 

Stop being a dayum whimp and grow a set instead of letting someone else tell you what you should be looking for in a President.

You don't need a tape, you need a kick in the ass.

You're deprogrammed...

of integrity, self respect, intelligence, common sense, patriotism, honor and a sense of what it truly means to be an American.

You can thank your CNN and main stream media for that...oh and your choice candidate...Hillary Rodham Clinton.

She'll be impeached too if she's elected. Justice is divine.

So Trump's behavior is " Normal? " l can see why Trump loves the less educated. By the way his last outing where his Mrs blamed Billy Bush for his behavior was Nothing less than pathetic. He said it was " locker talk" well guess what- every nba player that was asked whether that was locker talk said " never heard that before. " You said l was a funnel, thing is l recently had my truck serviced & l tell you what,  when you getting your oil changed: you need that funnel to prevent oil getting all over the place. I funnel in stuff that makes sense and purge theBS. You deflected the questions l asked and headed back to Hillary. You mentioned Bill, guess what genius" His not running". Funny how the worst is always imagined when your candidate is losing. It's time you woke up to the realization that there is a greater possibility of your next President being a female who knows how the government works than an entertainer whose going to make up things as he goes along. That is a scary thought for most Americans & the world in general. But keep on re arranging the deck chairs on the ship named Trump.l want Trump to lose to a woman, not because his a male, but because of everything that is wrong with him, from his arrogance to his demeaning nature. Perhaps it will take the wind out of his sails until he comes up with an excuse for his loss that his followers can buy into.I will light a candle for you. 

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Well well, I thought Obama was no longer campaigning for the shyster Hillary?  He must be watching his "legacy" slipping away.  Hey Obama, you still have about two months to run the country.  Oh wait, on second thought.... why not go golfing or waste taxpayer money like you usually do?

More Wikileaking came out today, so much so it is hard to digest it all. 

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Nov 2, 2016

Well well, I thought Obama was no longer campaigning for the shyster Hillary?  He must be watching his "legacy" slipping away.  Hey Obama, you still have about two months to run the country.  Oh wait, on second thought.... why not go golfing or waste taxpayer money like you usually do?

More Wikileaking came out today, so much so it is hard to digest it all. 

Yeah I thought so too..but I guess he has nothing better to do or doesn't want to be on the hit list when he leaves

office.

LOL, and I was thinking about golf or smoozing it up with the Italian leader over dinner..maybe he can have dinner with

Trump, it'll make the transition easier if they break some bread together. LOL

dr65's avatardr65

Hey where is bear?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

The liberal scum running youtube stopped showing live stream Trump rallies today.  So here's the one from yesterday...

bigbear29

just watching

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 2, 2016

The liberal scum running youtube stopped showing live stream Trump rallies today.  So here's the one from yesterday...

Boy doesnt it figure!  Thanx LIGB. 

I voted Trump!  Take back America.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Here you go Hillary supporters;

Subj: How the Main Stream Media Portrays Hillary.

 

Take a look at this Democrat rally. Notice the red hired guy ringed in red. He appears about 13 times. Also look at the other circled people who are also photo shopped multiple times!

1

 

http://bbs.dailystormer.com/uploads/default/original/3X/f/8/f8f6070f7ee5f17848be353b63cf2fe2fcd82fd2.jpg

 

Look for the two bald headed men standing together, one in front of the other. They are everywhere in the pic.

Notice the guy in purple his head tilted to the right. He is also everywhere.

Going from bottom left towards top right. Notice the two young ladies in blue and light blue. Just a few rows in front of them, there they are again and again and again and again.

All in a straight line.

This rally or this picture consists of, really, just a handful of people. Maybe 20 or so. It’s clearly been Photoshopped .

I have seen this a number of times at democrat meetings. Never a trump meeting.



dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 2, 2016

The liberal scum running youtube stopped showing live stream Trump rallies today.  So here's the one from yesterday...

Seriously...??? 

They stopped running those you'd always post for us? 

How sick is that?

LottoAce's avatarLottoAce

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 2, 2016

Here you go Hillary supporters;

Subj: How the Main Stream Media Portrays Hillary.

 

Take a look at this Democrat rally. Notice the red hired guy ringed in red. He appears about 13 times. Also look at the other circled people who are also photo shopped multiple times!

1

 

http://bbs.dailystormer.com/uploads/default/original/3X/f/8/f8f6070f7ee5f17848be353b63cf2fe2fcd82fd2.jpg

 

Look for the two bald headed men standing together, one in front of the other. They are everywhere in the pic.

Notice the guy in purple his head tilted to the right. He is also everywhere.

Going from bottom left towards top right. Notice the two young ladies in blue and light blue. Just a few rows in front of them, there they are again and again and again and again.

All in a straight line.

This rally or this picture consists of, really, just a handful of people. Maybe 20 or so. It’s clearly been Photoshopped .

I have seen this a number of times at democrat meetings. Never a trump meeting.



I'm guessing there may be what....20 actual people there.
you tell me, cause I don't care enough about that convention
to count the entitlement line.

but it is funny Coin Toss, and you do emphasize a valid point!
you caught them in the act of yet another act of fraud!
looks like with all the money they pay those political
stagetist they could have at least done a much better job
on that photo!

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 2, 2016

Here you go Hillary supporters;

Subj: How the Main Stream Media Portrays Hillary.

 

Take a look at this Democrat rally. Notice the red hired guy ringed in red. He appears about 13 times. Also look at the other circled people who are also photo shopped multiple times!

1

 

http://bbs.dailystormer.com/uploads/default/original/3X/f/8/f8f6070f7ee5f17848be353b63cf2fe2fcd82fd2.jpg

 

Look for the two bald headed men standing together, one in front of the other. They are everywhere in the pic.

Notice the guy in purple his head tilted to the right. He is also everywhere.

Going from bottom left towards top right. Notice the two young ladies in blue and light blue. Just a few rows in front of them, there they are again and again and again and again.

All in a straight line.

This rally or this picture consists of, really, just a handful of people. Maybe 20 or so. It’s clearly been Photoshopped .

I have seen this a number of times at democrat meetings. Never a trump meeting.



OMG......That whole picture is photoshopped what a joke.  I saw the ones you mentioned and others all over that so called "rally".  This is so blatant hahahahahahha they ARE desperate.  I have been wondering why they never show Hillarys audience like they do Trumps.  She and her "supporters" are a mess.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 2, 2016

Here you go Hillary supporters;

Subj: How the Main Stream Media Portrays Hillary.

 

Take a look at this Democrat rally. Notice the red hired guy ringed in red. He appears about 13 times. Also look at the other circled people who are also photo shopped multiple times!

1

 

http://bbs.dailystormer.com/uploads/default/original/3X/f/8/f8f6070f7ee5f17848be353b63cf2fe2fcd82fd2.jpg

 

Look for the two bald headed men standing together, one in front of the other. They are everywhere in the pic.

Notice the guy in purple his head tilted to the right. He is also everywhere.

Going from bottom left towards top right. Notice the two young ladies in blue and light blue. Just a few rows in front of them, there they are again and again and again and again.

All in a straight line.

This rally or this picture consists of, really, just a handful of people. Maybe 20 or so. It’s clearly been Photoshopped .

I have seen this a number of times at democrat meetings. Never a trump meeting.



That is pathetic.However come election day that won't matter now will it? Let's see if the Trump rallies translate into votes for the Orangutan. I said it's pathetic but it's too obvious that someone has messed with it, probably a Trump supporter. It's too freaking obvious.

Hear that sound in the background : Yeah you right if you thinking Landslide. 

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 2, 2016

Here you go Hillary supporters;

Subj: How the Main Stream Media Portrays Hillary.

 

Take a look at this Democrat rally. Notice the red hired guy ringed in red. He appears about 13 times. Also look at the other circled people who are also photo shopped multiple times!

1

 

http://bbs.dailystormer.com/uploads/default/original/3X/f/8/f8f6070f7ee5f17848be353b63cf2fe2fcd82fd2.jpg

 

Look for the two bald headed men standing together, one in front of the other. They are everywhere in the pic.

Notice the guy in purple his head tilted to the right. He is also everywhere.

Going from bottom left towards top right. Notice the two young ladies in blue and light blue. Just a few rows in front of them, there they are again and again and again and again.

All in a straight line.

This rally or this picture consists of, really, just a handful of people. Maybe 20 or so. It’s clearly been Photoshopped .

I have seen this a number of times at democrat meetings. Never a trump meeting.



Yep....this is what it really looked like....

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 2, 2016

LMAO!Yep, you got me, I didn't say "reputable" pool.

Do you think those videos will convince lots of the Trump supporters to bet everything they have on him winning the election?

Let's see, most polls that we see from CNN, the newspapers etc, have maybe 500, 1,100 or at most 2,000 people polled. The

poll I posted in the link had 50,000 people,  1,000 from each state. They were 33% democrat, 33% republican, 34%

independent. A very balanced, unbiased cross section of the country, wouldn't you say?  Which is how it should if you want to

have accurate results. I think the only reasons you're implying it wasn't reputable is because it didn't say what you wanted to

hear, ie Hillary is winning in a landslide. Or that it didn't come from a national newspaper or tv network. Tell me if I'm wrong.

The fact that they asked an equal amount of people from each party, and from each state guarantees fairness. If you conducted

a poll in a mostly Democratic state, the poll would mostly likely say the Democratic nominee was ahead. Same with a mostly

Republican state. Not a very fair or honest poll, or unexpected result there, agreed?

All that being said, everyone can argue about the polls and what they say all they want. But bottom line, the polls really don't

mean Jack Sheet.

The only thing that really matters is what happens on November the 8th, after millions of people of cast their ballots, and all the

votes are counted up. And then we'll know which poll was correct.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 2, 2016

Here you go Hillary supporters;

Subj: How the Main Stream Media Portrays Hillary.

 

Take a look at this Democrat rally. Notice the red hired guy ringed in red. He appears about 13 times. Also look at the other circled people who are also photo shopped multiple times!

1

 

http://bbs.dailystormer.com/uploads/default/original/3X/f/8/f8f6070f7ee5f17848be353b63cf2fe2fcd82fd2.jpg

 

Look for the two bald headed men standing together, one in front of the other. They are everywhere in the pic.

Notice the guy in purple his head tilted to the right. He is also everywhere.

Going from bottom left towards top right. Notice the two young ladies in blue and light blue. Just a few rows in front of them, there they are again and again and again and again.

All in a straight line.

This rally or this picture consists of, really, just a handful of people. Maybe 20 or so. It’s clearly been Photoshopped .

I have seen this a number of times at democrat meetings. Never a trump meeting.



Sweet.  I can't stop laughing.

RL

Party

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

JAMORA

Many of the same people in both pictures.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I also noticed that there are several security people in the picture.  They have to be there. 

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

That is BS

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Nov 2, 2016

Let's see, most polls that we see from CNN, the newspapers etc, have maybe 500, 1,100 or at most 2,000 people polled. The

poll I posted in the link had 50,000 people,  1,000 from each state. They were 33% democrat, 33% republican, 34%

independent. A very balanced, unbiased cross section of the country, wouldn't you say?  Which is how it should if you want to

have accurate results. I think the only reasons you're implying it wasn't reputable is because it didn't say what you wanted to

hear, ie Hillary is winning in a landslide. Or that it didn't come from a national newspaper or tv network. Tell me if I'm wrong.

The fact that they asked an equal amount of people from each party, and from each state guarantees fairness. If you conducted

a poll in a mostly Democratic state, the poll would mostly likely say the Democratic nominee was ahead. Same with a mostly

Republican state. Not a very fair or honest poll, or unexpected result there, agreed?

All that being said, everyone can argue about the polls and what they say all they want. But bottom line, the polls really don't

mean Jack Sheet.

The only thing that really matters is what happens on November the 8th, after millions of people of cast their ballots, and all the

votes are counted up. And then we'll know which poll was correct.

I like a more accurate polling of voters and that is a very balanced way to do it. I don't appreciate when the Democratic

lean polls people most likely to vote Hillary, of course the results are going to be swayed in her favor. I also do not like

when Republicans poll people most likely to vote Trump. It doesn't give the clear picture either way, it almost gives false

hope...I like a fair poll but the best way like you said is wait until Nov 8 and see the real results.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 2, 2016

I also noticed that there are several security people in the picture.  They have to be there. 

RL

They have  to be there....lol!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 2, 2016

Yep....this is what it really looked like....

rotflmao

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Nov 2, 2016

MIT:

Don't D govment trust D citizens of D konthry of D US of A ???

Are U beter off today dan the dey  U graduate from D US of A

govment "garder" when U were 20 ????????????????? yers hold?

MUST NOT if >>>> ID " REQUIRED " 

Sorry, I don't speak Gibberish.

dr65's avatardr65

Okay, say you're voting Hillary on Nov 8 and you decide to go to a rally..in the news and on tv and in many newspapers

you get the story reported to you that her rallies are jam packed and energetic!! Well, you gear yourself up to find a parking

spot, walk to the center, wait in line, be stuffed in like sardines and hear all kinds of yelling, hooting and hollering.

The rally starts and you start looking around thinking..hmm, why is everyone still at their car or out in line or stuck in 

traffic?? 20 minutes later, same crowd...when you're looking around wondering where everyone is, aren't you thinking

there is definitely something wrong??  50 people, 100 people, 171 people, 500 people...I think it would kind of make you

think wait up...maybe there is  some truth to that stuff they've been telling us...she's corrupt, she lied, she's dirty, she's

rich off the Clinton Foundation, she was responsible for Benghazi! I just wonder how many people have thought about that

and changed their minds after things sunk in.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

 FBI sources say with 99% accuracy that Hillary Clinton's server has been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and that information had been taken from it.

 

 

Indictment of Hillary is looking pretty good now....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/02/fbi_sources_tell_fox_news_indictment_likely_in_clinton_foundation_case.html

Smash

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Nov 2, 2016

If you're a resident of Texas, you can get a free Voter I.D.  You just have to make the effort to go get one...and provide proof that you are who you say you are.

And yes, anybody with any graphics skill can create a college I.D.   They're not any more "advanced" than the limited intellect needed to get a degree these days. You're living proof of that. 

You're the ignorant one if you think that hundreds of thousands will be disenfranchised by actually having to prove they are who they say they are and are, in fact, eligible to vote.  The only people who want people to be able to vote w/out having to show a valid I.D. are those who want to cheat.   You know, the crooks, the thieves, the liars... the Dems and Socialists, all the Constitution-hating rat-b*st*rds.

"You're the ignorant one if...." I take that back.  There's no "if" to it.  You're ignorant and a liar.  Every time you post you show your abject ignorance and lack of veracity.

Oh, and you're being your usual duplicitous self by leaving out the rest of the paragraph:

Voter-ID laws will not prevent non-citizens from voting. Green-card holders and even illegal aliens get driver’s licenses. But that’s not an argument against voter ID. It’s an argument for issuing driver’s licenses that specify non-citizenship.

(see? I can make big letters, too!)

Game, set, match - ME! I destroyed your argument yet once again.  Wanna give up or are you hungry for more?

"If you're a resident of Texas, you can get a free Voter I.D"

You're supposed to put a source there fyi.

"and provide proof that you are who you say you are."

Not everyone has a gun license fyi. Only 62% ofeligible Texans have a driver's license  https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policyinformation/pubs/hf/pl11028/chapter4.cfm see the white coloring? That shows that Texas has a very low rate of driver's license compared to other states, how is putting citizenship/non-citisenshiop on a DL going to change the fact that more than one ion three voters DO NOT HAVE IT.. Less than half of Texans have a passport: http://chartsbin.com/view/1147. How are they supposed to prove that they are who they are? Simple: They CAN'T. Unless EVERYONE boter has it, it is tyrannical and discriminatory to require it.

"Over one-in-five eligible Texas voters who make $20,000 a year or less do not have a current photo ID that would be accepted under the current voter ID law."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/study-over-1-5-low-income-texans-lack-eligible-voter-n196916

You have the nerve to call me a liar for pointing out the truth? 

And again, you should go find a college student and see their ID,your head would explode. 

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Nov 2, 2016

dr65, that is the exact reason I voted for Trump.  Obama has put us in the toilet and electing Hillary will flush it and us.  There is not one law, regulation, executive order Odumbo put through that I agree with. 

The only thing I say about Odumbo is his words "I am going to FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM"  America and by God he did.  That transformation is not what I wanted.  He got elected and I gave him the benefit of the doubt and thought Ok, lets hope he does a good job.  Within ONE week I knew we were in trouble and it has been trouble ever since. 

I also believe there was something very wrong with his re-election. So many were so disillusioned with him there was no way he could get a second term.  My opinion only.

Good Riddance Obama!

I can't wait to get out of this hellhole so i can Green laugh at nonsense like this rather than Bang Head at how ignorant my "fellow Americans" are.

http://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/marchapril-2012/obamas-top-50-accomplishments/

Admittedly some of the listed accomplishments can be argued, but overall Obama has certainly been better than most recent presidents. Imagine what the country can do if we had a REAL left-wing president instead of the centrist Obama. 

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Hilda, no proof that her email server was ever hacked.

Tonight, near 100% certainty that at least 5 foreign countries hacked the server.

 

How much damage has she already done to then US.  What secrets have been given away.  Remember even if

the emails did not give explicit details, any government's security agencies could gain much insight into other

even non related secrets.  I hate to see how much damage has been done and how many lives she has put at

risk and how many have already died.  Spy's etc.. who were killed are not reported.  How many field agents are

now setting in a foreign prison only to be killed or to be used as a bargaining chip in the future? 

RL

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 2, 2016

Hilda, no proof that her email server was ever hacked.

Tonight, near 100% certainty that at least 5 foreign countries hacked the server.

 

How much damage has she already done to then US.  What secrets have been given away.  Remember even if

the emails did not give explicit details, any government's security agencies could gain much insight into other

even non related secrets.  I hate to see how much damage has been done and how many lives she has put at

risk and how many have already died.  Spy's etc.. who were killed are not reported.  How many field agents are

now setting in a foreign prison only to be killed or to be used as a bargaining chip in the future? 

RL

That's not even including how much she sold us out, with her pay to play while SOS.....

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Obama legacy.

Our kids can't tell the difference between failure and success

Our kids inherit 20 trillion in debt

Our kids loaded down with student debt

Our best jobs are gone

Our roads and bridges are in poor shape

Drugs are out of control

Millions of illegals roaming free feeding off our good will

Thousands of murders, rapist etc.. running around without fear of punishment

Corruption out of control

Lies on TV in front of our kids, real role model.

No regard for US Constitution

Gender neutral restrooms

 

Just to name a few things off the top of my head, I could go on for days, 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

How to get rid of 20 million illegal aliens when the Mexican government won't take them back.

Catapults....

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Nov 2, 2016

"If you're a resident of Texas, you can get a free Voter I.D"

You're supposed to put a source there fyi.

"and provide proof that you are who you say you are."

Not everyone has a gun license fyi. Only 62% ofeligible Texans have a driver's license  https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policyinformation/pubs/hf/pl11028/chapter4.cfm see the white coloring? That shows that Texas has a very low rate of driver's license compared to other states, how is putting citizenship/non-citisenshiop on a DL going to change the fact that more than one ion three voters DO NOT HAVE IT.. Less than half of Texans have a passport: http://chartsbin.com/view/1147. How are they supposed to prove that they are who they are? Simple: They CAN'T. Unless EVERYONE boter has it, it is tyrannical and discriminatory to require it.

"Over one-in-five eligible Texas voters who make $20,000 a year or less do not have a current photo ID that would be accepted under the current voter ID law."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/study-over-1-5-low-income-texans-lack-eligible-voter-n196916

You have the nerve to call me a liar for pointing out the truth? 

And again, you should go find a college student and see their ID,your head would explode. 

You're supposed to put a source there fyi.

Why should I?  You never did. (and BS from ThinkProgress doesn't count)  I'm not your link wh*re.   Look it up, it's on the 'net.

What the heck, I'll give you one more lesson but from here on out, you're on your own.  Google "voter ID required for voting in Texas"  Since you're apparently too ignorant to do that, I'll do it for you. <-click there!

If you have one, bring one of the following. The ID must be current, or be expired for less than 4 years:

    Texas driver license issued by the Department of Public Safety
    Texas election ID certificate
    Texas personal ID card
    Texas license to carry a handgun
    US military ID card with your photograph
    US citizenship certificate containing your photograph (doesn’t need to be current)
    US passport

If you don’t have any of these, you’ll need to (1) sign a sworn statement that there is a reason why you don’t have any of the IDs listed above, and (2) bring one of the following:

    Valid voter registration certificate
    Certified birth certificate
    Current utility bill
    Government check
    Paystub or bank statement that includes your name and address
    Copy of or original government document with your name and an address (original required if it contains a photograph).

Looks to me like that will exclude the hermit living in a cave 100 mile north. of El Paso, that's about it.  It will darn sure exclude those living 100 miles south of there, for sure...and that's a good thing.

I call you a liar because you ARE one.  I proved that multiple times, remember?  I could have done it a dozen more times but I came to the conclusion that you're too dishonest to admit it.

Edit to add:  Here's your link, numbnuts:  Election Identification Certificate (EIC)

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Soooo....is the BC Lottery still taking wagers?

 

LOL

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 2, 2016

How to get rid of 20 million illegal aliens when the Mexican government won't take them back.

Catapults....

Come to think of it China built a wall a couple of thousand of years ago. It really must work, they still don't have Mexicans!

Scared

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 2, 2016

 FBI sources say with 99% accuracy that Hillary Clinton's server has been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and that information had been taken from it.

 

 

Indictment of Hillary is looking pretty good now....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/02/fbi_sources_tell_fox_news_indictment_likely_in_clinton_foundation_case.html

Smash

Good! Someone needs to start dishing out punishments that don't include warnings or slaps on the wrists. A lesson needs

to be learned that if you do bad and are bad you'll pay for it. Consequences now aren't threatening enough to prevent fraud

and corruption. It will never go away but at least if the threat is real for dire consequences to take place for those that abuse

the system or benefit greatly from others, maybe it'll make more think twice about illegal actions and self enrichment. The

Clinton's sure take 1st place with their charity organizations and corruption and theft within them. Haiti keeps coming to mind

but there are others who have suffered so Hill/Bill can live the good life. Ship them out and divvy up all the money to who it was

supposed to go to in the first place. I've read in numerous places that 10% of what they collected actually went to charity.

The other 90% sounds like it's in a bank account in Qatar. And the hacked info, that's another can of SNAKES...it's too rich

to be called worms...this is serious stuff. One way or the other, she will be going down. 2016 will sure be a year to remember.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 2, 2016

Soooo....is the BC Lottery still taking wagers?

 

LOL

I wondered about that too...I wonder if they're allowing them to change  their bet considering the latest revelations 

on crooked Hillary. July was a month that everyone was breathing easy and praising Comey. Fast forward to now..

he's on the Dems hit list and Hillary is on the burner again. Let her fry.

sully16's avatarsully16

I wonder how many countries have no extradition treaties with the US ?

Take her passport!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I read a article where a ton of money has already been moved to some offshore bank.  I think if she flees

she will be easy to find.  Follow the money.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Mexico is playing Dead Beat Dad with it's citizens. 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Obama plays Evil stepdad,   His people get all the attention while the rest suffer for everything. 

Hilda is the Evil wicked hateful witch who has cast a spell over the entire democratic party to

leave them dazed and confused.

RL 

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 3, 2016

I read a article where a ton of money has already been moved to some offshore bank.  I think if she flees

she will be easy to find.  Follow the money.

RL

1.6 Billion to Qatar.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Maybe we should give the illegal Mexicans guns and tell them to take their country back. 

They could slip back into Mexico unnoticed, after all I don't think the Mexican government

monitors the border. 

RL

 

 I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.

Thomas Jefferson.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 3, 2016

I read a article where a ton of money has already been moved to some offshore bank.  I think if she flees

she will be easy to find.  Follow the money.

RL

Yes. Interesting amount too...$1.8 Billion. Qatar.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Nov 3, 2016

1.6 Billion to Qatar.

Dead HillBilly going down. Yes Nod

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Hitler did the same thing.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

TEX-MEX railroad.  We already have a system in place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Mexican_Railway

RL

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Nov 2, 2016

just watching

Run out of steam pookie ?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Nov 3, 2016

I wondered about that too...I wonder if they're allowing them to change  their bet considering the latest revelations 

on crooked Hillary. July was a month that everyone was breathing easy and praising Comey. Fast forward to now..

he's on the Dems hit list and Hillary is on the burner again. Let her fry.

If Comey is not careful, he's gonna end up like Vince Foster and all the others that "committed suicide".

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Nov 3, 2016

Run out of steam pookie ?

He has to report in.

RL

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

My post yesterday was incorrect.  Youtube is still running Trump live stream rallies.  I got the wrong info.  Here's a live stream of the Trump rally in Conord, NC starting shortly. 

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Nov 2, 2016

psykomo I do believe Bilbo is the girly man, in more ways than one.  No Nod

dr65....Cool $$$ Cheers

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Nov 3, 2016

dr65....Cool $$$ Cheers

Big Grin

dr65's avatardr65

Oh good GreenBay!! Greatest time to be alive! GO TRUMP!!

 

Trump's perv Weiner ad...LOL

http://fyre.it/EfHLI5uV.4

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

TIME is UP all U TRUMPSTER's:

   ALL D Networks for D Clinton's     

PRIMED to DROP BOMB D big WON! 

they will KO him this "time" cause, he...A short fingered long shot, not A "big" shot like D "big" newswerK!

Hill gave nod to drop DNC poopy on him by weekend, "HOLD UR NOSE"!    

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Nov 3, 2016

If Comey is not careful, he's gonna end up like Vince Foster and all the others that "committed suicide".

I thought about that too but then thought about the disgrace of it all with Hillary...I think she needs to be put on 

'watch'.

 

Wow..side note, Obama's losing his mind...

FoxNews reporting he's made 3 stops in Florida in 3 weeks speaking for Hillary...let me get the link, he spooked

me with his yelling, I had the window minimized and had to click to see who the HECK that was yelling..wow...

dr65's avatardr65

This should start at 19:10 - so he starts yelling at 20:32

https://youtu.be/wVkgCkw6rq8?t=19m10s 

Everything he's saying about before and after you're President applies to Hillary 100 fold because of who she is...

 

If you are careless with top secret information before you are President...

If you are corrupt before you are President..

If you skim donations for your own personal use...

If you lie to the FBI...

If you lie to Congress....

If you destroy government property...

If you destroy incriminating emails...

If you are a dirty, lying, cheat who needs absolute power now....

Obama made me sick with the speech above...it's low down and dirty...How dare he suggest what Trump is doing is UnAmerican..

Obama is on his way out and good...he's as scummy as the rest of them. He's bashing the possible next President of the United States.

That is UnAmerican and against everything they forced on Trump to accept when they said he was UnAmerican over his statement

about accepting a Hillary Clinton win.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

5 days and counting.  How many democrats are counting the days?  LOL

dr65's avatardr65

lmao! the second sentence!...but the whole thing, yes, very true. I wish he would stop that nonsense. Does he

really think he forms a bond? At least he's better at it than Hillary..

but really lmao on the whole story...that was a good laugh..

pea-picking Green laugh

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/11/03/president-obama-should-stop-appropriating-southern-culture.html

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Nov 2, 2016

Let's see, most polls that we see from CNN, the newspapers etc, have maybe 500, 1,100 or at most 2,000 people polled. The

poll I posted in the link had 50,000 people,  1,000 from each state. They were 33% democrat, 33% republican, 34%

independent. A very balanced, unbiased cross section of the country, wouldn't you say?  Which is how it should if you want to

have accurate results. I think the only reasons you're implying it wasn't reputable is because it didn't say what you wanted to

hear, ie Hillary is winning in a landslide. Or that it didn't come from a national newspaper or tv network. Tell me if I'm wrong.

The fact that they asked an equal amount of people from each party, and from each state guarantees fairness. If you conducted

a poll in a mostly Democratic state, the poll would mostly likely say the Democratic nominee was ahead. Same with a mostly

Republican state. Not a very fair or honest poll, or unexpected result there, agreed?

All that being said, everyone can argue about the polls and what they say all they want. But bottom line, the polls really don't

mean Jack Sheet.

The only thing that really matters is what happens on November the 8th, after millions of people of cast their ballots, and all the

votes are counted up. And then we'll know which poll was correct.

"1,000 from each state. They were 33% democrat, 33% republican, 34%independent."

And that's exactly why I asked for a reputable poll. With that type of polling the independents would decide every result because the GOP and Dems will vote along party lines. When I voted in the primary there was no "independent ballot"; it was one party or the other if I wanted to vote.

"A very balanced, unbiased cross section of the country, wouldn't you say?"

Which Country? The only state I know having a similar political makeup is Vermont where the consensus polls show Clinton leading by 28 points. California voted Democrat in the last five presidential elections with the Dems getting over 60% in the last two. By only polling 33% of California Democrats, the results that poll is useless. And what about the accuracy of an Oklahoma poll where that state voted Republican by over 65% in the last three; how does polling only 33% registered Republicans even come close to reflecting how that state will vote?

"I think the only reasons you're implying it wasn't reputable is because it didn't say what you wanted to hear, ie Hillary is winning in a landslide. Or that it didn't come from a national newspaper or tv network"

It's starting to look like you're clueless on the polling process.  Your poll was a sampling of an electorate that exists in only one or two small states.  Finding a reputable poll is basically comparing their past polls with actual results. It's pretty simple; if their polls were accurate in the past, they should be accurate today.

"and from each state guarantees fairness."

How is misrepresenting the political make-up of a state's electorate guarantee a fair poll?

"Not a very fair or honest poll, or unexpected result there, agreed?"

Like I already said, unless a state's previous results show it's trending in another direction, polling results are are expected to closely reflect previous results.

"The only thing that really matters is what happens on November the 8th, after millions of people of cast their ballots, and all the votes are counted up. And then we'll know which poll was correct.

Seriously, do you expect solid red and blue states to switch votes based solely on how you feel?                            '

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 3, 2016

My post yesterday was incorrect.  Youtube is still running Trump live stream rallies.  I got the wrong info.  Here's a live stream of the Trump rally in Conord, NC starting shortly. 

"My post yesterday was incorrect."

Most of your post are inaccurate; what else is new?

dr65's avatardr65

Funny how Hillzilla is the damsel in distress now. She needs Obama's reasoning why she's having a tough time.

Wow, she never needed any man before that she would admit to..she didn't need Bill to get her where she went,

she sure doesn't need Obama either but will let him speak for her then if she wins, will add another feather to her

cap and say how hard she worked to become President...without any mention of anyone that helped get her there.

Her nasty answer to the African person who asked what about Mr Bill...was proof enough she doesn't need anyone

in her corner. She's a nasty woman just like Trump said..I wonder what kind of screaming banshee she's been in 

these past few days...

Here's a rundown of how Hillary climbed the ladder..she wasn't worried about sexism - just when it could get her somewhere

like now...poor Hillary...No Pity!

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/11/03/no-mr-obama-its-not-sexism-thats-turning-tide-against-hillary-clinton.html

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 3, 2016

"My post yesterday was incorrect."

Most of your post are inaccurate; what else is new?

Tell me that on November 9th...

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Nov 3, 2016

Oh good GreenBay!! Greatest time to be alive! GO TRUMP!!

 

Trump's perv Weiner ad...LOL

http://fyre.it/EfHLI5uV.4

loved it!

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 2, 2016

 FBI sources say with 99% accuracy that Hillary Clinton's server has been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and that information had been taken from it.

 

 

Indictment of Hillary is looking pretty good now....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/02/fbi_sources_tell_fox_news_indictment_likely_in_clinton_foundation_case.html

Smash

Clearly sounds like they have enough evidence to indict Hillary and many others. There is a media black out of the latest wiki leaks dump. I scrolled the channels last night in between the World Series and other a peep from her supporters in the media.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Nov 3, 2016

If Comey is not careful, he's gonna end up like Vince Foster and all the others that "committed suicide".

I also heard that Comey might be getting his walking papers from Obama. Probably not a good idea unless they want James Comey spilling  the beans on all the corruption being perpetrated by the WH, state department and DOJ.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Nov 3, 2016

Clearly sounds like they have enough evidence to indict Hillary and many others. There is a media black out of the latest wiki leaks dump. I scrolled the channels last night in between the World Series and other a peep from her supporters in the media.

Like the blackout on her whole health issue. You'd think she actually had pneumonia and the story just went away like it

did. Roll Eyes I'm just wondering how all these liberal media giants are going to save face after the election...win or lose Hillary

has real issues.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

It's pretty simple; if their polls were accurate in the past, they should be accurate today.

Guess what? Stuff changes. If people aren't happy, why should they not change?

So what is your definition of a reputable poll.  CNN?  Or a poll that only counts states that are a democratic majority, so you can say,"polls show that Hillary will win?" The results in the poll were 67% Trump, 19% Hillary. That's really following the party lines huh?

What country do you think?  China? Iraq? North Korea?

Maybe you're the clueless one. A national poll of 50,000 from across the country (that's the United States) versus 1,100 from who knows where. Which provides a better cross section of the population?

Like I already said, unless a state's previous results show it's trending in another direction, polling results are expected to closely reflect previous results.

Well, Duh!!!  Previous results show the Chicago Cubs are a lousy team, but they obviously trended in another direction this year. So much for the early baseball polls. Maybe so much for the election polls too, cause the people ain't happy.

Seriously, do you expect solid red and blue states to switch votes based solely on how you feel?   

Nope. They aren't going to switch based on how I feel, they will switch based on how they feel. If they feel that Hillary is a big corrupt liar who can't be trusted, and that Trump is better for them, then that is how they will vote. If they feel that Hillary is  only out for herself, and only cares about money and power, and Trump will do better for the country (that's the United States) then that's how they will vote.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

The word treason is making it's way around and if I remember correctly the punishment for treason

during war time is death.  I wonder if the war on terrorism counts?  If found guilty then I would like

to see charges be made against all her associates. 

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

What do we know about Huma Abedin?

https://youtu.be/adhXkjUifrs

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Most democrats know Hilda is a lying, thieving, corrupt, greedy, baby killing, power hungry, email wiping

two faced, bottom feeding maggot.  They simply don't care, sad, very sad.  Stupidity gone to seed.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Nov 3, 2016

What do we know about Huma Abedin?

https://youtu.be/adhXkjUifrs

Another example of how democrats are willing to stick their heads in sand and ignore the real issues.

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

MRC's Bozell: Network Blackout of Report of Likely Clinton Foundation Indictment Is Beyond the Pale

By Michael W. Chapman | November 3, 2016 | 1:17 PM EDT

MRC President L. Brent Bozell III. 

Commenting on the fact that at least two FBI sources have disclosed that a criminal indictment of the Clinton Foundation is likely and yet the networks ABC, CBS, and NBC are not reporting this news confirms there is a "media cover-up," a network "blackout," said Media Research Center Brent Bozell in a statement on Thursday.

“The networks’ blackout of the news that two FBI sources said there will ‘likely’ be indictments related to the Clinton Foundation is beyond the pale," said Bozell.

"If there was a report about likely indictments related to the Trump Foundation, there would be an immediate flash mob of reporters camped in front of Trump Tower breaking away from regularly scheduled programming and offering play-by-play commentary," he said. 

"No one in the so-called ‘news’ media can deny this without lying through his/her teeth," said Bozell, whose media watchdog group has been documenting, exposing, and neutralizing liberal media bias for 29-plus years.

"The stench of corruption between the Justice Department, the State Department and the Clinton Foundation machine and now the leftist ‘news’ media is overpowering," he said.  "This is a media cover-up." 

Former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.  (AP) 

Ending his statement, Bozell said, “We will report developments on this continuing cover-up every hour from here on out. We want America to know the role the ‘news’ media are playing in what appears now to be a criminal conspiracy. "

On Wednesday, Fox News' Special Report With Bret Baier reported on the likely indictment stemming from the FBI's investigation of the Clinton Foundation. In his report, Baier said, "Here's the deal: We talked to two separate sources with intimate knowledge of the FBI investigations. One: The Clinton Foundation investigation is far more expansive than anybody has reported so far... Several offices separately have been doing their own investigations. 

 

"... Finally, we learned there is a confidence from these sources that her server had been hacked. And that it was a 99% accuracy that it had been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and that things had been taken from that...

"... I pressed again and again on this very issue... The investigations will continue, there is a lot of evidence. And barring some obstruction in some way, they believe they will continue to likely an indictment."

Disclosure: The Media Research Center is the parent organization of CNSNews.com

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Nov 3, 2016

It's pretty simple; if their polls were accurate in the past, they should be accurate today.

Guess what? Stuff changes. If people aren't happy, why should they not change?

So what is your definition of a reputable poll.  CNN?  Or a poll that only counts states that are a democratic majority, so you can say,"polls show that Hillary will win?" The results in the poll were 67% Trump, 19% Hillary. That's really following the party lines huh?

What country do you think?  China? Iraq? North Korea?

Maybe you're the clueless one. A national poll of 50,000 from across the country (that's the United States) versus 1,100 from who knows where. Which provides a better cross section of the population?

Like I already said, unless a state's previous results show it's trending in another direction, polling results are expected to closely reflect previous results.

Well, Duh!!!  Previous results show the Chicago Cubs are a lousy team, but they obviously trended in another direction this year. So much for the early baseball polls. Maybe so much for the election polls too, cause the people ain't happy.

Seriously, do you expect solid red and blue states to switch votes based solely on how you feel?   

Nope. They aren't going to switch based on how I feel, they will switch based on how they feel. If they feel that Hillary is a big corrupt liar who can't be trusted, and that Trump is better for them, then that is how they will vote. If they feel that Hillary is  only out for herself, and only cares about money and power, and Trump will do better for the country (that's the United States) then that's how they will vote.

"Guess what? Stuff changes. If people aren't happy, why should they not change?"

Only 6 years in the last 24 has one party controlled the House, Senate, and the Presidency and it looks like that trend will continue for at least two more years. Nobody can convince the KY voters to change a Senator or any of the House members and probably why you didn't say "if the majority of the people aren't happy".

"A national poll of 50,000 from across the country (that's the United States) versus 1,100 from who knows where. Which provides a better cross section of the population?"

The results of the last six presidential elections show which states will likely vote Democrat or Republican. Wyoming voted Republican by over 65% in the last five and Maryland voted Democrat by over 55%. Why would you think either state will change in this election?

"Previous results show the Chicago Cubs are a lousy team, but they obviously trended in another direction this year."

The Cubs were in the NLCS last year and that's why they were favored to win it all this year. Nate Silver was still favoring the Cubs when they were down 3 - 1. Baseball is not a very good comparison especially when Kansas City was in the last two World Series and didn't even make the playoff this year. It's because of injuries to key players, not trends.

"If they feel that Hillary is a big corrupt liar who can't be trusted, and that Trump is better for them, then that is how they will vote."

That's pretty much your opinion, but hardly explains why Democrats and lots of Republican will vote for Trump. Ask the Greenbay guy why his state voted for Cruz in their primary and why he thinks those Republicans will now vote for Trump.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 3, 2016

Tell me that on November 9th...

How exactly will the election change your inaccurate posts?

Don't you know the difference between your opinion and posting fiction?

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Nov 4, 2016

MRC's Bozell: Network Blackout of Report of Likely Clinton Foundation Indictment Is Beyond the Pale

By Michael W. Chapman | November 3, 2016 | 1:17 PM EDT

MRC President L. Brent Bozell III. 

Commenting on the fact that at least two FBI sources have disclosed that a criminal indictment of the Clinton Foundation is likely and yet the networks ABC, CBS, and NBC are not reporting this news confirms there is a "media cover-up," a network "blackout," said Media Research Center Brent Bozell in a statement on Thursday.

“The networks’ blackout of the news that two FBI sources said there will ‘likely’ be indictments related to the Clinton Foundation is beyond the pale," said Bozell.

"If there was a report about likely indictments related to the Trump Foundation, there would be an immediate flash mob of reporters camped in front of Trump Tower breaking away from regularly scheduled programming and offering play-by-play commentary," he said. 

"No one in the so-called ‘news’ media can deny this without lying through his/her teeth," said Bozell, whose media watchdog group has been documenting, exposing, and neutralizing liberal media bias for 29-plus years.

"The stench of corruption between the Justice Department, the State Department and the Clinton Foundation machine and now the leftist ‘news’ media is overpowering," he said.  "This is a media cover-up." 

Former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.  (AP) 

Ending his statement, Bozell said, “We will report developments on this continuing cover-up every hour from here on out. We want America to know the role the ‘news’ media are playing in what appears now to be a criminal conspiracy. "

On Wednesday, Fox News' Special Report With Bret Baier reported on the likely indictment stemming from the FBI's investigation of the Clinton Foundation. In his report, Baier said, "Here's the deal: We talked to two separate sources with intimate knowledge of the FBI investigations. One: The Clinton Foundation investigation is far more expansive than anybody has reported so far... Several offices separately have been doing their own investigations. 

 

"... Finally, we learned there is a confidence from these sources that her server had been hacked. And that it was a 99% accuracy that it had been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and that things had been taken from that...

"... I pressed again and again on this very issue... The investigations will continue, there is a lot of evidence. And barring some obstruction in some way, they believe they will continue to likely an indictment."

Disclosure: The Media Research Center is the parent organization of CNSNews.com

This is starting to feel like turning the light on, and seeing the <snip>roaches scramble...and this is our GOV! i wanna Puke

WTH is going on in our Justice Department?

 

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LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 4, 2016

How exactly will the election change your inaccurate posts?

Don't you know the difference between your opinion and posting fiction?

Give me an example of my "fictional" posts?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 3, 2016

My post yesterday was incorrect.  Youtube is still running Trump live stream rallies.  I got the wrong info.  Here's a live stream of the Trump rally in Conord, NC starting shortly. 

Actually I was correct.  Listen to the 5 minute audio 2:21:49 into the video.  The Right Side Broadcasting announcer stated that Youtube sent them a notification that they no longer had the ability to live stream Trump events.  They also had equipment tampered with and an internet cable cut.  They worked out the issues and continue to live stream Trump rallies.  Liberals are so tolerant huh?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I just watched on fox news where Hilda was trashing Trump for rating women on a scale of 1 to 10.

Good grief.  The rating system has been around for longer than I have.   If doing this means that a

man is not worthy or is unfit then how in the world did Billy ever get elected.  By her standards he

was a total looser.  Give us a break Hilda, is that all you got left. 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I keep waiting for Obama to be investigated for his part in the email scandal.  It seems to me that he also lied

to cover it up, at the very least, to distance himself.   

RL

CARBOB

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 4, 2016

I keep waiting for Obama to be investigated for his part in the email scandal.  It seems to me that he also lied

to cover it up, at the very least, to distance himself.   

RL

He is immune from telling the truth because of his skin color. The press ignores the lies from him. Remember, "you can keep your insurance"? Justice Roberts ignored the truth, when ObamaCare passed.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 4, 2016

I just watched on fox news where Hilda was trashing Trump for rating women on a scale of 1 to 10.

Good grief.  The rating system has been around for longer than I have.   If doing this means that a

man is not worthy or is unfit then how in the world did Billy ever get elected.  By her standards he

was a total looser.  Give us a break Hilda, is that all you got left. 

RL

That rating thing is older than dirt.

Remember the movie "10"?

LOL.

LottoAce's avatarLottoAce

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 4, 2016

I just watched on fox news where Hilda was trashing Trump for rating women on a scale of 1 to 10.

Good grief.  The rating system has been around for longer than I have.   If doing this means that a

man is not worthy or is unfit then how in the world did Billy ever get elected.  By her standards he

was a total looser.  Give us a break Hilda, is that all you got left. 

RL

Bill never discriminated. He screwed them all!!

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 4, 2016

I just watched on fox news where Hilda was trashing Trump for rating women on a scale of 1 to 10.

Good grief.  The rating system has been around for longer than I have.   If doing this means that a

man is not worthy or is unfit then how in the world did Billy ever get elected.  By her standards he

was a total looser.  Give us a break Hilda, is that all you got left. 

RL

Since she seems to have more man genes than woman's, I'll bet she's rated quite a few women in her time.

Everyone has done that..either remarked on a scale of 1 - 10 how good looking a person was or called someone

ugly or made comment on their hair, body type, nose size..good grief has not everyone been on the 'scale' at 

some time in their lives? And there are people who will tell you right out they think they're low end in the looks

department. Yes, she needs to move on to better things..or no, she can keep up with the junk that doesn't matter..

it lets people know how much she doesn't matter.

She slings mud as well as the rest of them but she can dish it out..but can't take it that's for sure. Crying injured party

when Trump says something then turning around and saying the same types of things about him..and it's ok! Well, 

Hillary, people are sick of you. The polls and even main stream media are changing. Trump has been consistent for

a long, long time. We know what we're getting with him....and IT'S NOT YOU. That's what makes all the difference in

the world.

I saw a story she's in trouble with the local code enforcement officer for renovations on her home...she didn't have a 

permit. I wonder how many other 'little' things she thought were beneath her since she is who she is...it all adds up.

Her record shows she has zero integrity.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by CARBOB on Nov 4, 2016

He is immune from telling the truth because of his skin color. The press ignores the lies from him. Remember, "you can keep your insurance"? Justice Roberts ignored the truth, when ObamaCare passed.

Yes, and that's wrong...this country needs to make people accountable for what they do and not slide under the

radar because someone is afraid to be called racist. He's a liar for sure and Hillary will follow right in his footsteps.

ObamaCare is a joke...who in the world can afford the rising premiums? There are people struggling today who have

to make a choice over health care of food?? Prescription medications or heat??? This 'Buma is proud of that? He won't

have to worry about healthcare, food, heat or meds. He is very comfortable where he is and he's settled into the fantasy

he did a good job, there is no remorse there is no empathy either. He's got his, he tried to get others their's but failed

so now he'll just go out smiling and patting himself on the back. I don't like him, never did. I don't care if he's black that's

not why I don't like him...I do not like him because he is arrogant, puts on airs and walks around like he's some kind of

super hero AND because he fuels the race issue. He's a black man pretending to be white then pretending to be black again

when it suits him...like in the south..or in inner cities, he wants to make a connection to his 'roots'..well he should have

helped them instead of putting on a style of talk which did absolutely nothing for anyone. Isn't it racist for him to talk

how he thinks black people talk?...and by the way, HOW  is that?? So if Trump mocks someone, Obumer is connecting to

someone. LOL 

I'm just finally happy some media is changing their stand...they've softened on support for Hillary and sometimes, sometimes, 

seem to report things that give Trump a brighter light. It's not too late...and better late than never.

kreative1's avatarkreative1

I don't know, but it seems the Trumps subconsciously want Clinton to win

Her speech about immigrants and cyber bullying. Trump now wants tremendous amount of legal immigrants to come to USA under good merit? HUH? 

BTW his mother was an immigrant and even though you hear more about his dad it's an interesting read.


All his supporters wear "make America great again" hats and yet his platform has changed to make America "STRONG" again, Clintons platform "Stronger Together" 

Affordable health care is a good idea for working people that aren't covered either by their job or spouse or small business, self employed. Also it's for the people that have pre existing medical issues and can't get coverage because of it. The people that don't have an income already are covered by some form of medical assistance. 

Trump said he would get rid of it and replace it with something better and at the fraction of the cost
Good luck with that and if he gets in I hope that's true.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 4, 2016

This is starting to feel like turning the light on, and seeing the <snip>roaches scramble...and this is our GOV! i wanna Puke

WTH is going on in our Justice Department?

 

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I Agree!.    PukeIts sickening.

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by CARBOB on Nov 4, 2016

He is immune from telling the truth because of his skin color. The press ignores the lies from him. Remember, "you can keep your insurance"? Justice Roberts ignored the truth, when ObamaCare passed.

Obama and his entire administration will go down as the most corrupt in history. He has destroyed the integrity of the IRS, DOJ and the State Department. Four years of Trump won't be enough to fix what Obama has done.

Unluckyone's avatarUnluckyone

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 4, 2016

This is starting to feel like turning the light on, and seeing the <snip>roaches scramble...and this is our GOV! i wanna Puke

WTH is going on in our Justice Department?

 

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Nothing more than a cess pool in dire need of sterilization.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Just got finished early voting today.  Go Trump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by Unluckyone on Nov 4, 2016

Obama and his entire administration will go down as the most corrupt in history. He has destroyed the integrity of the IRS, DOJ and the State Department. Four years of Trump won't be enough to fix what Obama has done.

I Agree!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trump rally in New Hampshire.  Live stream starts now.  Weeeeeeeeeeeee

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 4, 2016

Give me an example of my "fictional" posts?

You sound like Coin Toss. Did you already forget your incorrect post saying Youtube stopped streaming Trump rallies?

Will a couple more be enough?

If you get a chance, check Mike Pence's stance on gambling. Bet you didn't know when he was in the House he cosponsored the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act in 2006. But I'll give credit where credit's due, the Republicans Party removed the anti-gambling plank from their platform probably because Trump is a casino owner and they didn't want that hypocrisy.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 4, 2016

Actually I was correct.  Listen to the 5 minute audio 2:21:49 into the video.  The Right Side Broadcasting announcer stated that Youtube sent them a notification that they no longer had the ability to live stream Trump events.  They also had equipment tampered with and an internet cable cut.  They worked out the issues and continue to live stream Trump rallies.  Liberals are so tolerant huh?

Guess you didn't see my post huh Stack?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Unluckyone on Nov 4, 2016

Obama and his entire administration will go down as the most corrupt in history. He has destroyed the integrity of the IRS, DOJ and the State Department. Four years of Trump won't be enough to fix what Obama has done.

Actually No.

The most corrupt administration's were : Nixon, the attempt to rig an election. His VP was indicted for corruption & he resigned before Nixon.Next is Reagan's. His administration had the most number of indictments & convictions of any President. It's astounding that Reagan wasn't impeached for Iran Contra affair.  Do a Google search,  it will spring out at you. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 4, 2016

Actually No.

The most corrupt administration's were : Nixon, the attempt to rig an election. His VP was indicted for corruption & he resigned before Nixon.Next is Reagan's. His administration had the most number of indictments & convictions of any President. It's astounding that Reagan wasn't impeached for Iran Contra affair.  Do a Google search,  it will spring out at you. 

You kidding me noise?  Wait until obama's out of office.  The rats will sing.  IRS targeting political opponents.  DOJ stopping FBI investigations.  obama sent Hillary emails to Hillary's unsecured server using a pseudonym.  This whole administration stinks.  Nixon was a choir boy compared to obama.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trump rally in Wilmington, OH... Live stream starts soon.  Another rally in Hershey, PA 4 hours from now. 

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 4, 2016

You kidding me noise?  Wait until obama's out of office.  The rats will sing.  IRS targeting political opponents.  DOJ stopping FBI investigations.  obama sent Hillary emails to Hillary's unsecured server using a pseudonym.  This whole administration stinks.  Nixon was a choir boy compared to obama.

l am not kidding you.

Reagan had his investigations while IN office. There is a difference.  Uncovering stuff after President's have left don't count. I am being as neutral as possible, One thing is for certain-you cannot rewrite Reagan's history, it's in books and that includes bubba's as well.Which begs the question: How many ongoing investigations are there involving Obama ...and what for? Btw- the DOJ attempting to stop an FBI investigation days before people go to the polls is not absurd? Material commented on but no information given? Americans left in the dark as to whether the material is relevant or not?  Give me a  break. I would feel the same way if something came out against Trump as well. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 4, 2016

l am not kidding you.

Reagan had his investigations while IN office. There is a difference.  Uncovering stuff after President's have left don't count. I am being as neutral as possible, One thing is for certain-you cannot rewrite Reagan's history, it's in books and that includes bubba's as well.Which begs the question: How many ongoing investigations are there involving Obama ...and what for? Btw- the DOJ attempting to stop an FBI investigation days before people go to the polls is not absurd? Material commented on but no information given? Americans left in the dark as to whether the material is relevant or not?  Give me a  break. I would feel the same way if something came out against Trump as well. 

How many investigations are there involving obama?  LOL!  Don't ask me, ask the main stream media for not pursing these scandals.  Give me a break noise.  First black President has sure gotten away with a lot.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 4, 2016

How many investigations are there involving obama?  LOL!  Don't ask me, ask the main stream media for not pursing these scandals.  Give me a break noise.  First black President has sure gotten away with a lot.

Hearsay- no proof in 8 years to haul him before an independent counsel. I think the Republicans love independent counsels just as long as it doesn't involve their own kind. You know that too.From the day Obama was sworn in the Republicans have tried hard to nail him for something .As Denzel once said in a movie" You got nothing on me. " Obama beat the Republicans at their own game. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 4, 2016

Hearsay- no proof in 8 years to haul him before an independent counsel. I think the Republicans love independent counsels just as long as it doesn't involve their own kind. You know that too.From the day Obama was sworn in the Republicans have tried hard to nail him for something .As Denzel once said in a movie" You got nothing on me. " Obama beat the Republicans at their own game. 

Hearsay???  You're what's called a low info voter.  Lost cause.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 4, 2016

Hearsay- no proof in 8 years to haul him before an independent counsel. I think the Republicans love independent counsels just as long as it doesn't involve their own kind. You know that too.From the day Obama was sworn in the Republicans have tried hard to nail him for something .As Denzel once said in a movie" You got nothing on me. " Obama beat the Republicans at their own game. 

Why did obama USE A FAKE NAME emailing Hillary using her unsecured server???

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 4, 2016

Why did obama USE A FAKE NAME emailing Hillary using her unsecured server???

Yeah...Weiner was Carlos Danger..maybe Obama was Howdy Doody.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Nov 4, 2016

Yeah...Weiner was Carlos Danger..maybe Obama was Howdy Doody.

Id like to know the alias he used.  Guess we'll have to wait until after the election.  Maybe it was Mohamed something?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 4, 2016

Why did obama USE A FAKE NAME emailing Hillary using her unsecured server???

Where's the investigation into that allegation? If the Democrats take the Senate- finally we can get something done.Mitch & company have been nothing but obstructionists.America is a country that is constantly moving forward,  unless we have a Republican Senate & house. I want progress from people who are sent to Washington to do a JOB. One hearing after another is not a freaking job.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 4, 2016

Where's the investigation into that allegation? If the Democrats take the Senate- finally we can get something done.Mitch & company have been nothing but obstructionists.America is a country that is constantly moving forward,  unless we have a Republican Senate & house. I want progress from people who are sent to Washington to do a JOB. One hearing after another is not a freaking job.

OMG.  I'm done with you.  You've been in San Fran way too long.

dr65's avatardr65

Like FoxNews opinion says..

It's time to ask Hillary supporters, how could you?

CNN softened its stand on Trump, they actually are reporting some things that benefit him now..amazing.

I think I'll listen to a few of Hillary's latest rallies...I want to see if anyone is booing. They've got to be angry.

People are slow on the uptake sometimes but eventually, some of them get it.

Trump deserve respect on sticking it out alone....after months and months and months of kicking him when he was

down, the guy didn't quit. 

Hillary didn't quit for other reasons, there is too much tied to her win. She HAS to win. Corruption NEEDS an outlet

and she's it...she didn't quit because ever since they threw out Bernie AND before, she had her sights on this and her

whole team of criminals and two faced lying political losers helped her push, hide and continue her lies. Cover up is

never good when spoken in the same sentence as US Government...or Charity.

Get the fork, she's done.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Wow, huge crowd already in PA with over two hours to go.  Won't see this at a Hillary rally.  LOL

LottoAce's avatarLottoAce

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 4, 2016

Actually No.

The most corrupt administration's were : Nixon, the attempt to rig an election. His VP was indicted for corruption & he resigned before Nixon.Next is Reagan's. His administration had the most number of indictments & convictions of any President. It's astounding that Reagan wasn't impeached for Iran Contra affair.  Do a Google search,  it will spring out at you. 

it seems like you are one of the very rare few that properly remembers the Reagon years.
alot of Americas have repainted his image into a picture perfect presidency.
battling the Russians and winning the cold war. Liberating east/west Germany
"Kadafi" negotiating with the union and ending the ATC strike. enhancing a strong economy
(which he did not), "just say no to drugs" encorporating a manditory urinalysis for all government
workers...except of course politicians.

Zero Tolerance against anyone who even thinks about taking a pain pill that isn't prescribed
or smoking a joint to kill the pain of the hard working american who can't afford to go to the doctor
to get real results. because the balance of wealth is so uneven
from his administration letting Corporate America run wild.

His anti crime action extended to every street in America, with the exception of Wall Street, and
Pennsylvania Avenue.

when the Iran Contra Scandal came out he said,"I will take full responsibility for this administrations actions..
blah blah blah" did he? hell no. he used Oliver North as an escape goat and threw a highly decorated
Marine officer and Vietnam Veteran with an unquestionable service record under the bus.

yet all I hear from all my peers is...you ready for this?
"Reagon was the greatest president of all time"
"He was everything a president should be. he was a true
American"
"we need to clone him"
that fairy tale makes me want to puke.

congratulations to you noise-gate, for not letting these extreme self righteous
Republicans unscrew your head and thoroughly wash your brain with $***.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 4, 2016

OMG.  I'm done with you.  You've been in San Fran way too long.

First off: l don't live in San Francisco. Shows you how much you know of the" Bay Area."

Second & more importantly : l accept your surrender.

See you the day after the election & whatever the outcome: Be a Man & accept the results. 

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by LottoAce on Nov 4, 2016

it seems like you are one of the very rare few that properly remembers the Reagon years.
alot of Americas have repainted his image into a picture perfect presidency.
battling the Russians and winning the cold war. Liberating east/west Germany
"Kadafi" negotiating with the union and ending the ATC strike. enhancing a strong economy
(which he did not), "just say no to drugs" encorporating a manditory urinalysis for all government
workers...except of course politicians.

Zero Tolerance against anyone who even thinks about taking a pain pill that isn't prescribed
or smoking a joint to kill the pain of the hard working american who can't afford to go to the doctor
to get real results. because the balance of wealth is so uneven
from his administration letting Corporate America run wild.

His anti crime action extended to every street in America, with the exception of Wall Street, and
Pennsylvania Avenue.

when the Iran Contra Scandal came out he said,"I will take full responsibility for this administrations actions..
blah blah blah" did he? hell no. he used Oliver North as an escape goat and threw a highly decorated
Marine officer and Vietnam Veteran with an unquestionable service record under the bus.

yet all I hear from all my peers is...you ready for this?
"Reagon was the greatest president of all time"
"He was everything a president should be. he was a true
American"
"we need to clone him"
that fairy tale makes me want to puke.

congratulations to you noise-gate, for not letting these extreme self righteous
Republicans unscrew your head and thoroughly wash your brain with $***.

Its Reagan, not Reagon.  And if you hated Reagan, you're really going to hate Trump.  LOL!  I love seeing liberal heads explode.

LottoAce's avatarLottoAce

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 4, 2016

Its Reagan, not Reagon.  And if you hated Reagan, you're really going to hate Trump.  LOL!  I love seeing liberal heads explode.

you have to excuse my typo's I get going and I just go with the flow sometimes.
I didn't hate Reagan. I don't hate anyone.  I think he was still one of the best presidents
of the twentieth century. he accomplished alot, but, at a great price. I just don't like
when people, who are mostly ignorant to the world paint a portrait of his sainthood.
he may be a saint now...but he wasn't then. there were alot of criminal activites/scandals
during his administration, that people ignore, or have forgotten about.
I'm not a liberal..trust me on that. I'm just not an extreme right wing republican.

I not going to hate Trump, funny thing is. Im not even going to have to hate
his administation. because he's not going to get the electorial votes he needs
from the people that matter. deep down they know he can't do the job.
all of this is just "a readily perceived pretense;" aka a Charade.

but you go to the polls and do your civic duty, and keep telling yourself
that your making a difference for guys like us, keep telling yourself
that lie untill you start believing it.

*Laughs*

dr65's avatardr65

Mark Cuban at the Clinton rally..talking about Science and Trump..the only science there is how in the world

she thought that shiny bright would make any sense.

Rip off for $20 million dollars?? Hillary did just that and more. 

He's talking trust too...he is at the wrong rally.

Edit..a black cowboy in a ten gallon hat What? and Mr Mohammed Roll Eyes escorted her on to the stage too...how obvious is that?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 4, 2016

Wow, huge crowd already in PA with over two hours to go.  Won't see this at a Hillary rally.  LOL

Did you see the Hilda rally, it was a concert where she showed up.  I guess that's the only way she could

be pictured with a full crowd.  Just another lie.

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 4, 2016

"Guess what? Stuff changes. If people aren't happy, why should they not change?"

Only 6 years in the last 24 has one party controlled the House, Senate, and the Presidency and it looks like that trend will continue for at least two more years. Nobody can convince the KY voters to change a Senator or any of the House members and probably why you didn't say "if the majority of the people aren't happy".

"A national poll of 50,000 from across the country (that's the United States) versus 1,100 from who knows where. Which provides a better cross section of the population?"

The results of the last six presidential elections show which states will likely vote Democrat or Republican. Wyoming voted Republican by over 65% in the last five and Maryland voted Democrat by over 55%. Why would you think either state will change in this election?

"Previous results show the Chicago Cubs are a lousy team, but they obviously trended in another direction this year."

The Cubs were in the NLCS last year and that's why they were favored to win it all this year. Nate Silver was still favoring the Cubs when they were down 3 - 1. Baseball is not a very good comparison especially when Kansas City was in the last two World Series and didn't even make the playoff this year. It's because of injuries to key players, not trends.

"If they feel that Hillary is a big corrupt liar who can't be trusted, and that Trump is better for them, then that is how they will vote."

That's pretty much your opinion, but hardly explains why Democrats and lots of Republican will vote for Trump. Ask the Greenbay guy why his state voted for Cruz in their primary and why he thinks those Republicans will now vote for Trump.

The results of the last six presidential elections show which states will likely vote Democrat or Republican. Wyoming voted Republican by over 65% in the last five and Maryland voted Democrat by over 55%. Why would you think either state will change in this election?

If people aren't happy they will change things regardless of the party. Maryland now has a Republican governor, only the second since the 1960's. Mainly because the last gov. Martin O'Malley, raised taxes, tolls, and fees 83 times in 8 years.

Nobody can convince the KY voters to change a Senator or any of the House members...

Are you happy with the way the politicians are running Kentucky?  Maybe you shouldn't be. I don't mean anything personal against your state, just asking.

America's 10 worst states to live in 2016 - CNBC.com

www.cnbc.com/2016/07/12/americas-10-worst-states-to-live-in-2016.html
Jul 12, 2016 - These are America's bottom states for Quality of Life. Nevada. Valerie Macon | AFP | Getty Images. Kentucky. Getty Images. Alabama. Bonnie Jo Mount | The Washington Post | Getty Images. Mississippi. Getty Images. Indiana. Luke Sharrett | Bloomberg | Getty Images. Tennessee. Getty Images. Louisiana. Oklahoma.
Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Nov 4, 2016

Like FoxNews opinion says..

It's time to ask Hillary supporters, how could you?

CNN softened its stand on Trump, they actually are reporting some things that benefit him now..amazing.

I think I'll listen to a few of Hillary's latest rallies...I want to see if anyone is booing. They've got to be angry.

People are slow on the uptake sometimes but eventually, some of them get it.

Trump deserve respect on sticking it out alone....after months and months and months of kicking him when he was

down, the guy didn't quit. 

Hillary didn't quit for other reasons, there is too much tied to her win. She HAS to win. Corruption NEEDS an outlet

and she's it...she didn't quit because ever since they threw out Bernie AND before, she had her sights on this and her

whole team of criminals and two faced lying political losers helped her push, hide and continue her lies. Cover up is

never good when spoken in the same sentence as US Government...or Charity.

Get the fork, she's done.

How can you tell when dr is misrepresenting the truth or maybe flat out lying?

Every time they post...........ROFL

"Like FoxNews opinion says.."

Fox News offered their opinion and this happened when they were proved wrong again.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Nov 4, 2016

The results of the last six presidential elections show which states will likely vote Democrat or Republican. Wyoming voted Republican by over 65% in the last five and Maryland voted Democrat by over 55%. Why would you think either state will change in this election?

If people aren't happy they will change things regardless of the party. Maryland now has a Republican governor, only the second since the 1960's. Mainly because the last gov. Martin O'Malley, raised taxes, tolls, and fees 83 times in 8 years.

Nobody can convince the KY voters to change a Senator or any of the House members...

Are you happy with the way the politicians are running Kentucky?  Maybe you shouldn't be. I don't mean anything personal against your state, just asking.

America's 10 worst states to live in 2016 - CNBC.com

www.cnbc.com/2016/07/12/americas-10-worst-states-to-live-in-2016.html
Jul 12, 2016 - These are America's bottom states for Quality of Life. Nevada. Valerie Macon | AFP | Getty Images. Kentucky. Getty Images. Alabama. Bonnie Jo Mount | The Washington Post | Getty Images. Mississippi. Getty Images. Indiana. Luke Sharrett | Bloomberg | Getty Images. Tennessee. Getty Images. Louisiana. Oklahoma.

"Maryland now has a Republican governor, only the second since the 1960's."

Kentucky did the same thing last year and our new Governor apparently doesn't want to be re-elected.

"Are you happy with the way the politicians are running Kentucky?"

The state had gridlock for years, long before I moved here. I can't find anybody that voted for Rand Paul six years ago, but he'll easily win re-election next week. Paul, McConnell and all but one House member run on supporting the coal industry every election and do absolutely nothing to help the coal miners after being elected. Hal Rogers was first elected to the House in 1981 and did create legislation to help out of work coal miners, but Rand Paul made sure it never got through the Senate.

The short answer is "NO".

"I don't mean anything personal against your state, just asking."

I live in the Bluegrass, horse country, not far from Shatner where lots of people are millionaires. Kentucky is in the bottom ten of lots of stuff, but I can't complain because it keep the cost of living down.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 4, 2016

Actually I was correct.  Listen to the 5 minute audio 2:21:49 into the video.  The Right Side Broadcasting announcer stated that Youtube sent them a notification that they no longer had the ability to live stream Trump events.  They also had equipment tampered with and an internet cable cut.  They worked out the issues and continue to live stream Trump rallies.  Liberals are so tolerant huh?

"The liberal scum running youtube stopped showing live stream Trump rallies today."

Are you saying the people running Youtube for no reason cut off the broadcasts?

"The Right Side Broadcasting announcer stated that Youtube sent them a notification that they no longer had the ability to live stream Trump events.  They also had equipment tampered with and an internet cable cut.  They worked out the issues and continue to live stream Trump rallies."

But are you now you're saying there was a good reason why the broadcasts were stopped?

It really doesn't matter which post you say was correct because by default the other post was pure fiction.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 4, 2016

Actually No.

The most corrupt administration's were : Nixon, the attempt to rig an election. His VP was indicted for corruption & he resigned before Nixon.Next is Reagan's. His administration had the most number of indictments & convictions of any President. It's astounding that Reagan wasn't impeached for Iran Contra affair.  Do a Google search,  it will spring out at you. 

"It's astounding that Reagan wasn't impeached for Iran Contra affair."

At that point, what possible difference would it make?.........Wink

Tip O'Neal was running the House and he knew the Senate couldn't get 67 guilty votes so he didn't waste the People's time or money on impeachment. Unlike some of the Republican House clowns now saying they will waste the People's time and money trying to impeach Hillary.

"Do a Google search,  it will spring out at you."

Have you noticed with all the allegations posted on this thread there are very few links quoting a source?

But when you think about it Trump is still denying he supported the war in Iraq. So why should we expect accuracy from his supporters here?

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Is everyone getting Excited Hyper

It won't be long now....and don't forget to change them CLOCKS Big Grin Santa

dr65's avatardr65

Yea helpmewin, not long now.

I think the mood has shifted from crazy Hillary support to she's more rotten than the rest. There are voters who are

choosing the lesser of 2 evils and then there's the staunch supporters of either Trump or Hillary then there are those

that aren't voting at all. It will be interesting. CNN reports Trumps edging forward and Hillary's ahead by 2 cheesy points..

then there's that matter of margin of error..all along some people have said the polls lie..we know CNN and major media

has lied for quite some time now. It's refreshing to see some of them do what's right and break away from Clinton and

just report the news.

Hillary and the Democrats are leaning heavily on the fact that it's perfect timing for her to step in and try to become the

first woman President. Personally, I don't think it's time for a woman, much less that woman to be President. It isn't a 

matter of social acceptance, it's a matter of who will do best for our country. If Hillary is going to use the woman card

I hope she loses on that alone. It's that type of thinking that will always keep groups divided. It's a weak move intended

to gain sympathy and attention and divert from the real issues. That woman doesn't have to care about discrimination, she only

has to appear that she is sympathetic to it and the sufferers of it. That's easy - look at Obama, big black man in a big White

House...lots of pull and lots of push...I want to know what he did for the black youth he was so concerned about? Giving the

good speech isn't anywhere near fighting the good fight. He failed and so will Hillary. They are of the same mold. 

So depending on who wins, we're either going to have the white elite woman who will totally bury this country with her arrogance

and deceit or a white rich man who will make this country great again by keeping illegals and terrorists out, select conservative

supreme court members where we are able to hold our values and morals and freedoms and change things where it's better

for us, the American people. Who wants another Obama...I sure in heck don't. Same message, same agenda, same politics

just a new white, female ruler who is filthy rich and doesn't need to worry about the people, just those who will get her

somewhere. So after election day if she wins, expect to be forgotten everyone. She will be having a party every day up 

until the day she's impeached and indicted. Then who are you going to count on? Kaine? LOLOL!!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trump rally in Wilmington, NC.  Live stream starts now.  Where's Hildabeast?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 5, 2016

Trump rally in Wilmington, NC.  Live stream starts now.  Where's Hildabeast?

Taking a nap.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 5, 2016

Trump rally in Wilmington, NC.  Live stream starts now.  Where's Hildabeast?

Hillary was in Michigan today.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 4, 2016

Its Reagan, not Reagon.  And if you hated Reagan, you're really going to hate Trump.  LOL!  I love seeing liberal heads explode.

Regean swallowed the anti-communism of the 1950's completely to his core and stayed 100% loyal to the Republican platform You can't say the same about Trump and the modern Republican platform. Trump is a giant ?, we have no idea how he would actually lead and what he would propose.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Nov 3, 2016

Like the blackout on her whole health issue. You'd think she actually had pneumonia and the story just went away like it

did. Roll Eyes I'm just wondering how all these liberal media giants are going to save face after the election...win or lose Hillary

has real issues.

Because there is no health issue. As a human being she got sick for a few days and got better. I'' just wondering how many of them will actually move given I've heard that they threatened to do it in 2004 if Bush was re-elected and they apparently didn't.

Kingofearth's avatarKingofearth

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Nov 3, 2016

I wonder how many countries have no extradition treaties with the US ?

Take her passport!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Can't wait until Monday, going to be exciting next few days. 

RL

dr65's avatardr65

Anyone else reporting the man the Secret Service tackled was trying to shoot Trump?

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

LOL!!!!!

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Nov 6, 2016

Anyone else reporting the man the Secret Service tackled was trying to shoot Trump?

Just found it here.

https://youtu.be/Mk1HYAH_540

dr65's avatardr65

Ty - so someone yelled gun. It was a scare and it does make you realize how easy it would be to take either of 

the candidates out.

sully16's avatarsully16

New story, Hildabeast ordered her maid to print copies of her top secret documents.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Nov 6, 2016

Ty - so someone yelled gun. It was a scare and it does make you realize how easy it would be to take either of 

the candidates out.

Yes its possible but not easy at a rally.  At the rally I went to, everyone had to walk through a metal detector (like they have at the airports) then after that a uniformed secret service agent scanned me again with a wand.  IMO the secret service did a good job protecting him.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Nov 6, 2016

New story, Hildabeast ordered her maid to print copies of her top secret documents.

Wow, I didn't see that one.  She should have been arrested long ago.  Guess its true, laws are for the little people.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Nov 5, 2016

Regean swallowed the anti-communism of the 1950's completely to his core and stayed 100% loyal to the Republican platform You can't say the same about Trump and the modern Republican platform. Trump is a giant ?, we have no idea how he would actually lead and what he would propose.

He's forming a new republican party...Something the majority want.  IMO there's little difference between both parties right now.  They're both corrupt and neither one gives a rip about the people.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by Kingofearth on Nov 5, 2016

Because there is no health issue. As a human being she got sick for a few days and got better. I'' just wondering how many of them will actually move given I've heard that they threatened to do it in 2004 if Bush was re-elected and they apparently didn't.

Sure, she recovered from the Pneumonia. But there's a lot more going on with her health. She's had a history of falls going back years. Broken elbow, serious concussion, blood clot.

Why does she fall so often? Look up Dr. Ted Noel on you tube. If he's right, and I think he is, she's not physically or mentally fit for the job. 

If she's elected, no way will she serve a full term. She'll either be forced to resign for health reasons or be impeached.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

TRUTH!

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 6, 2016

TRUTH!

Awesome. US Flag

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Trump rally in Sioux City, Iowa.  Live stream starts now.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Unbelievable....there are no good guys in the gov. The whole barrel is rotten. PEW PEW!

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

More controversy for the Trump campaign;  DNC investigators have discovered he once removed a mattress tag back in 1987.

 Mattress tag

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Nov 6, 2016

More controversy for the Trump campaign;  DNC investigators have discovered he once removed a mattress tag back in 1987.

 Mattress tag

lmao  Green laugh

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Nov 6, 2016

New story, Hildabeast ordered her maid to print copies of her top secret documents.

Good Lord Sully, thiis is so far fetched I thought you were joking until I read it on Emily's blog. 

DOES ANYBODY ELSE THINK THERE IS SOMETHING DEFINITELY OFF WITH THIS WOMAN WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT?  I mean aside from my not liking her, her common sense is out the window.

JEEEEEEEEEEZ, SHE IS NUTS.  It is so insane.

The story is now being discussed by Neil Cavuto, Ed Rollins and Pat Caddell on Fox News. 

noise-gate

Image result for GAME OVER MAN

noise-gate

FBI Director James Comey told lawmakers Sunday the agency hasn't changed its opinion that Hillary Clinton should not face criminal charges after a review of new emails.

"Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July," Comey said in the letter to top Republicans on the House Oversight Committee.

There...There.

dr65's avatardr65

Hillary really needed to watch her words and she didn't..she needed to watch her actions and she didn't...

At the rally clip in the video Jamora posted Hillary said when asked by kids and grandkids later on what

you did in 2016....she had lots to say..about herself...again...

I'd like everyone to be able to tell them they voted for a person who didn't commit treason, who didn't lie

to the FBI and Congress, who didn't destroy her devices and emails to cover up wrong doing, who couldn't

elect Supreme Court justices that instead of doing what's right for the country did what someone who put

them there wanted, someone who didn't skim the money from charity to live a grandiose lifestyle with no

remorse, who lied to America, who lied to the blacks, who lied to women, who lied to children, who lied to

the world, a person who was guilty as sin and expected to be elected President of this great nation...and 

by not voting for that person had made it a great nation again and that I and a whole lot of other people 

voted for the best choice for America in 2016 - DONALD TRUMP.

THAT  is what I want future generations to know..that the American people were strong enough, bright enough,

courageous enough and patriotic enough to stand up to corruption and political correctness as defined by the

politically correct and see through the lies that would have buried this country and made us the weakest laughing

stock of the world. I want to be able to say that people were sick of the way the government was run and actually

initiated great change by voting out the people who had used this country for their own good for too long.

Tuesday is fast approaching.

You must ask yourself if you can live with Hillary.

You must ask yourself why you would support her. The FBI is catching up to her, it will not be too long until they prosecute.

Where will our country be then? In Tim Kaine's hands. He is NOT qualified and that is something you need to think about too.

There is talk about the NYPD. They had Weiners computer and a chief backed up copies of files that the FBI said to destroy.

It's pedophilia related. The chief was sickened by the content. Now if there is even the slightest doubt in your mind about

Hillary and what she's done, you have to go with your conscience..listen to your head and your heart. Think. And think again.

She is involved.

These files are devastating because they involve top government officials engaged in what should be the most revolting 

crime out there today....use of a child for sexual gratification...use of a child for sick entertainment purposes...stripping a

child of their God given innocence and feeding them to the demons in this world. 

How can a self serving lifetime government criminal be put into the country's greatest, most powerful position without 

becoming more of the criminal she already is. If she's elected it's the worst path we as a nation can take..right into Hell

itself.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Nov 6, 2016

Good Lord Sully, thiis is so far fetched I thought you were joking until I read it on Emily's blog. 

DOES ANYBODY ELSE THINK THERE IS SOMETHING DEFINITELY OFF WITH THIS WOMAN WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT?  I mean aside from my not liking her, her common sense is out the window.

JEEEEEEEEEEZ, SHE IS NUTS.  It is so insane.

The story is now being discussed by Neil Cavuto, Ed Rollins and Pat Caddell on Fox News. 

Can't make this stuff up, the woman is a train wreck.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Nov 6, 2016

Hillary really needed to watch her words and she didn't..she needed to watch her actions and she didn't...

At the rally clip in the video Jamora posted Hillary said when asked by kids and grandkids later on what

you did in 2016....she had lots to say..about herself...again...

I'd like everyone to be able to tell them they voted for a person who didn't commit treason, who didn't lie

to the FBI and Congress, who didn't destroy her devices and emails to cover up wrong doing, who couldn't

elect Supreme Court justices that instead of doing what's right for the country did what someone who put

them there wanted, someone who didn't skim the money from charity to live a grandiose lifestyle with no

remorse, who lied to America, who lied to the blacks, who lied to women, who lied to children, who lied to

the world, a person who was guilty as sin and expected to be elected President of this great nation...and 

by not voting for that person had made it a great nation again and that I and a whole lot of other people 

voted for the best choice for America in 2016 - DONALD TRUMP.

THAT  is what I want future generations to know..that the American people were strong enough, bright enough,

courageous enough and patriotic enough to stand up to corruption and political correctness as defined by the

politically correct and see through the lies that would have buried this country and made us the weakest laughing

stock of the world. I want to be able to say that people were sick of the way the government was run and actually

initiated great change by voting out the people who had used this country for their own good for too long.

Tuesday is fast approaching.

You must ask yourself if you can live with Hillary.

You must ask yourself why you would support her. The FBI is catching up to her, it will not be too long until they prosecute.

Where will our country be then? In Tim Kaine's hands. He is NOT qualified and that is something you need to think about too.

There is talk about the NYPD. They had Weiners computer and a chief backed up copies of files that the FBI said to destroy.

It's pedophilia related. The chief was sickened by the content. Now if there is even the slightest doubt in your mind about

Hillary and what she's done, you have to go with your conscience..listen to your head and your heart. Think. And think again.

She is involved.

These files are devastating because they involve top government officials engaged in what should be the most revolting 

crime out there today....use of a child for sexual gratification...use of a child for sick entertainment purposes...stripping a

child of their God given innocence and feeding them to the demons in this world. 

How can a self serving lifetime government criminal be put into the country's greatest, most powerful position without 

becoming more of the criminal she already is. If she's elected it's the worst path we as a nation can take..right into Hell

itself.

Great post. US Flag

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Nov 6, 2016

More controversy for the Trump campaign;  DNC investigators have discovered he once removed a mattress tag back in 1987.

 Mattress tag

omg, rotflmao.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Nov 6, 2016

Good Lord Sully, thiis is so far fetched I thought you were joking until I read it on Emily's blog. 

DOES ANYBODY ELSE THINK THERE IS SOMETHING DEFINITELY OFF WITH THIS WOMAN WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT?  I mean aside from my not liking her, her common sense is out the window.

JEEEEEEEEEEZ, SHE IS NUTS.  It is so insane.

The story is now being discussed by Neil Cavuto, Ed Rollins and Pat Caddell on Fox News. 

She is insane...as evidenced by her continued rally's and appearances...she thinks she belongs in office. She really does.

If she can fool the people she can fool the world...but this will catch up to her.

 

I read that on 1997 I believe - Clinton tax returns, they deducted the amount of Bill's old underwear..don't remember

the type of deduction but apparantly, it's there. 

How can people in their right mind be coerced by her evil, how can they be fooled by her trash, how can they believe what

they've been told. It's like having a convicted felon telling you he'll be your babysitter, accountant, housesitter, chauffeur,

security guard. It's clear that she is rotten to the core. Why do some of us want someone running our country like that?

She will take, connive, lie, cheat, use the powers of the Presidency to make great gains for herself. Hillary is Hillary's #1

priority. Absolute power is what she wants and that is the worst thing any of us can hope for..President Hillary Clinton.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Nov 6, 2016

Good Lord Sully, thiis is so far fetched I thought you were joking until I read it on Emily's blog. 

DOES ANYBODY ELSE THINK THERE IS SOMETHING DEFINITELY OFF WITH THIS WOMAN WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT?  I mean aside from my not liking her, her common sense is out the window.

JEEEEEEEEEEZ, SHE IS NUTS.  It is so insane.

The story is now being discussed by Neil Cavuto, Ed Rollins and Pat Caddell on Fox News. 

I'm not surprised.

It's really very simple.....

Comey didn't want to commit "suicide".

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Nov 6, 2016

More controversy for the Trump campaign;  DNC investigators have discovered he once removed a mattress tag back in 1987.

 Mattress tag

LOL.

Mike, don't give them any ideas!

dr65's avatardr65

They still don't know what to do about this mess. It's either death or prison for a long, long time. They have 

families they need to think about. The threats and pressure on those involved must be too much to handle.

Think about it..it's like a movie..

Your wife.

Your husband.

Your children.

Your career.

Your reputation.

Your 'good' name.

Prison.

Fines.

Embarrassment.

For some even suicide isn't an option.

They sold out.

There really is no fix for that except try and choose the lesser of the consequences.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Remember when Bill Clinton was president and there was talk of some pending investigation and what Hillary said;

"You can't do this to us, we are the president."

She's been nuts for a long time. 

For those of you supporting her did you see her ranting and raving and screaming the other day?

Do you really want four years of that?

If you think Hillary is really the best choice and will look out for your best interests you are in for a wicked surprise.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Yahoo news is now reporting that the FBI says there will be no charges for Hillary over the new emails. I say this is

BS 

 

Hillary must have paid off Comey big time. The NYPD has said they have all kinds of incriminating evidence in the emails

from Anthony Weiner, and the DOJ is pushing back against them to keep them from releasing it. How does the FBI go

through 650,000 emails in a week, when it took them months to go through the original 33,000? With all  the reports of FBI

agents ready to revolt against Comey for not pressing charges against Hillary originally, I don't think this is over by a

long shot. Bottom line if Hillary gets elected, this country is F'ed. It will be nothing but one investigation after another, we'll

be the laughing stock of the world if we aren't already. This is a mess. We the people are the only ones who can clean this

sheet up!  People get out and vote on Tuesday. The future of America depends on you!!!

US Flag Trump 2016

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Here's the news on Hillary getting off.

https://youtu.be/M5qA5KP7x-8https://youtu.be/M5qA5KP7x-8

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Nov 6, 2016

I'm not surprised.

It's really very simple.....

Comey didn't want to commit "suicide".

http://www.stageconsultation.com/images/icons/04.png        I think the only threat to him was his family.  This whole thing stinks to high heaven. 

Now let's see how they handle that maid issue.  Probably already disappeared, on her way home....

 

VOTE Trump.  I voted Trump to make America Great Again and Clean up the Swamp.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

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And it's a good thing they are on the job too because this morning the Trump campaign was still calling it an "assassination attempt".

Those "Republicans against Trump" signs are killing his chances.

dr65's avatardr65

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Nov 6, 2016

Yahoo news is now reporting that the FBI says there will be no charges for Hillary over the new emails. I say this is

BS 

 

Hillary must have paid off Comey big time. The NYPD has said they have all kinds of incriminating evidence in the emails

from Anthony Weiner, and the DOJ is pushing back against them to keep them from releasing it. How does the FBI go

through 650,000 emails in a week, when it took them months to go through the original 33,000? With all  the reports of FBI

agents ready to revolt against Comey for not pressing charges against Hillary originally, I don't think this is over by a

long shot. Bottom line if Hillary gets elected, this country is F'ed. It will be nothing but one investigation after another, we'll

be the laughing stock of the world if we aren't already. This is a mess. We the people are the only ones who can clean this

sheet up!  People get out and vote on Tuesday. The future of America depends on you!!!

US Flag Trump 2016

Exactly right. That should put the wind back in her sails. The wicked seem to triumph at every turn but justice

catches up with them eventually. NYPD better get out what they have and NOW. Comey will be put on the Dems

good boy list again. Will they take back all they said about him? I won't call him anything but a pawn in an evil

scheme to get Hillary to the White House. Your average Joe, we the American people, can see there is a definite

conflict of interest and we can also see all the reasons not to put Hillary in the White House. She is the epitome

of Washington DC corruption. She's protected, she's underhanded, she's ruthless. 

The morale must be mighty low at the FBI...scores of agents furious over the July decision and now this. I'm sure 

they worked as hard as they did because they thought, this is it. Now how do they feel? It's their job to know how

to classify what they are presented with..the trouble is that there is always a top dog to heel to and that's the DOJ

and Comey himself...the agents who know Hillary is guilty have the experience to know that, again Average Joe

wouldn't know the intricacies of what actually counts for an indictment or what actually counts as being guilty of

charges that would stick...the average Joe goes by his own opinion without years of training and experience in these

matters because average Joe knows what's right in his heart...the FBI agents who thought she should be charged -

it's their job to know...they should know what they're talking about. Why would anyone be furious if there was nothing

to charge her with? They know and that says it all for me.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Nov 6, 2016

Yahoo news is now reporting that the FBI says there will be no charges for Hillary over the new emails. I say this is

BS 

 

Hillary must have paid off Comey big time. The NYPD has said they have all kinds of incriminating evidence in the emails

from Anthony Weiner, and the DOJ is pushing back against them to keep them from releasing it. How does the FBI go

through 650,000 emails in a week, when it took them months to go through the original 33,000? With all  the reports of FBI

agents ready to revolt against Comey for not pressing charges against Hillary originally, I don't think this is over by a

long shot. Bottom line if Hillary gets elected, this country is F'ed. It will be nothing but one investigation after another, we'll

be the laughing stock of the world if we aren't already. This is a mess. We the people are the only ones who can clean this

sheet up!  People get out and vote on Tuesday. The future of America depends on you!!!

US Flag Trump 2016

I Agree!

 

VOTE TRUMP and get rid of the swamp people, starting with Hillary and Billy.

noise-gate

I have just one thing to say to all the Trump supporters out there..In fact the Rolling Stones sang it " You can't always get what you want. "  Trump was over the moon when Comey announced that the agency was looking into more emails dealing with her server. Trump said his " confidence has been restored" in the FBI.Now that Comey has said " No smoke here folks" suddenly his advisor Newt Gingrich is saying Comey was under tremendous pressure to say what he had to say " For goodness sake people,  the game does not always end the way you want it too." You win some,  you lose some. Just get used to losing this time.

Btw - l wanted Anton Chigurh to buy the farm so bad, but it didn't happen- we all get used to disappointment at times.

If wishes were horses- beggars would ride.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 6, 2016

Remember when Bill Clinton was president and there was talk of some pending investigation and what Hillary said;

"You can't do this to us, we are the president."

She's been nuts for a long time. 

For those of you supporting her did you see her ranting and raving and screaming the other day?

Do you really want four years of that?

If you think Hillary is really the best choice and will look out for your best interests you are in for a wicked surprise.

Thanks again Coin Toss for giving us yet another example of you posting another lie about Hillary Clinton.

"Remember when Bill Clinton was president and there was talk of some pending investigation and what Hillary said; You can't do this to us, we are the president. "

She never said it.

"She's been nuts for a long time."

That's what I said about you "for a long time".

"Do you really want four years of that?"

I asked that when you were made an "Elite" LP member. When are you going to start acting like one?

noise-gate

What l truly want to know is this: What happens to the Republican party if Trump loses & goes back to his business& golfing given that he destroyed all the other political candidates that the republican voters rejected?  Who do they see rising from the ashes? 

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

I have just one thing to say to all the Trump supporters out there..In fact the Rolling Stones sang it " You can't always get what you want. "  Trump was over the moon when Comey announced that the agency was looking into more emails dealing with her server. Trump said his " confidence has been restored" in the FBI.Now that Comey has said " No smoke here folks" suddenly his advisor Newt Gingrich is saying Comey was under tremendous pressure to say what he had to say " For goodness sake people,  the game does not always end the way you want it too." You win some,  you lose some. Just get used to losing this time.

Btw - l wanted Anton Chigurh to buy the farm so bad, but it didn't happen- we all get used to disappointment at times.

If wishes were horses- beggars would ride.

The American people will lose, Obamacare is crushing those who can least afford it and the middle class will struggle with higher insurance, higher taxes, stagnant pay.

Think about, I mean really think, what do you get rid of first just to make ends meet? if millions are getting rid of the same extras, that will hurt some kind of commerce. People lose jobs.

With no extra money, people will run up credit cards, not for furs and jewels, but for food and home repairs, nothing worse then needing a roof, or furnace when you have no money.

Have you seen the cost of food?

We need jobs, we need job creators, if the middle class folds.....

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Nov 6, 2016

The American people will lose, Obamacare is crushing those who can least afford it and the middle class will struggle with higher insurance, higher taxes, stagnant pay.

Think about, I mean really think, what do you get rid of first just to make ends meet? if millions are getting rid of the same extras, that will hurt some kind of commerce. People lose jobs.

With no extra money, people will run up credit cards, not for furs and jewels, but for food and home repairs, nothing worse then needing a roof, or furnace when you have no money.

Have you seen the cost of food?

We need jobs, we need job creators, if the middle class folds.....

With all due respect to your post Sully.America is NOT electing a Dictator, If Hillary is elected,  she is  going to have to go through Congress to get things passed. Let's lay off the Gloom & Doom as though we will see soup kitchens on every street corner. I wish the best for America. You cannot seriously be thinking that all the people voting for her are all idiots? Let's get real here.Or are you saying Trump supporters are Smarter?  I read today that a Trump win will send the stock market plunging to new depths &  America into a recession like one we have never seen before,  and this is coming from economists. Are they idiots as well?

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mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Nov 6, 2016

LOL.

Mike, don't give them any ideas!

OK, but I suspect they've dredged up as much mud as they can.  Ya never know, though. 

I voted Friday; there were a bunch of folks there, but I didn't have to wait because most didn't take long and I reckon they were voting a straight ticket.  Not me, though - I never have done that.  I hope the Libertarian candidates for judge and Railroad Commission appreciated it.  I also didn't vote for any incumbents in local races except for one;  a friend is the tax collector/assessor and she's doing a good job.  She looks a lot like Lee Ann Womack.

Hope you set your bombs clocks back one hour last night.

 Bomb Clock

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

With all due respect to your post Sully.America is NOT electing a Dictator, If Hillary is elected,  she is  going to have to go through Congress to get things passed. Let's lay off the Gloom & Doom as though we will see soup kitchens on every street corner. I wish the best for America. You cannot seriously be thinking that all the people voting for her are all idiots? Let's get real here.Or are you saying Trump supporters are Smarter?  I read today that a Trump win will send the stock market plunging to new depths &  America into a recession like one we have never seen before,  and this is coming from economists. Are they idiots as well?

They need to get rid of Obamacare.

Talk about gloom and doom, your worried about the stock market?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Nov 6, 2016

They need to get rid of Obamacare.

Talk about gloom and doom, your worried about the stock market?

 Before we talk about getting rid of something, we  have to have something much better to replace it with. And that is what exactly? Unlike getting rid of a President, we at least have the VP to step up into those big shoes. What do you see out there right now that can take the place of Obamacare? What happens to folks who are already on the program,  where are they going to get help during the Obamacare dismantling period- see what I mean?  We need to think clearly,  lives are at stake here. Perhaps some " surgery" could be done to the present program where just about everyone agrees on what a health care system should look like.  Rising costs are unavailable,  we just need costs that even the poor can afford- right? 

sully16's avatarsully16

                                                            Stairway to Heaven

 

There's a lady that's sure.

All that glitters is gold.

And she's buying the stairway to heaven.

When she gets there she knows.

If the stores are all closed

With a word she can get what she came for.

 

There's a sign on the wall

But she wants to be sure

Cause you know sometimes words have to meanings.

In a tree by a brook

There's a songbird that sings

Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven.

 

There's a feeling I get

When I look to the west

And my spirit is crying for leaving

In my thoughts I have seen

Rings of smoke through the trees

When the voices of those who stand looking.

 

And she's buying the starway to Heaven.

 

And it's whispered that soon

if we all call the tune

Well the piper will lead us to reason

and a new day will dawn

for those who stand long

and the forests will echo with laughter

and she's buying the stairway to Heaven

 

ooh, it makes me wonder

ooh, it really , makes me wonder.

 

If there's a bustle in your hedgerow

Don't be alarmed now

it's just a spring clean for the May Queen

Yes, there are two paths you can go by

But, in the long run

There's still time to change the road you're on

and it makes me wonder.

 

Your head is humming and it won't go

In case you don't know

The piper is calling you to join him.

Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow?

And did you know

Your stairway lies on the whispering wind.

 

And as we wind on down the road

Our shadows taller than our soul

There walks a lady we all know

who shines white light and wants to show

How everything still turns to gold

and if you listen very hard

the tune will come to you at last

when all are one, and one is all

To be a rock and not to roll

 

And she's buying the Stairway to Heaven

                                                               Jimmy Page and Robert Plant.

noise-gate

The beastie Boys huh?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

 Before we talk about getting rid of something, we  have to have something much better to replace it with. And that is what exactly? Unlike getting rid of a President, we at least have the VP to step up into those big shoes. What do you see out there right now that can take the place of Obamacare? What happens to folks who are already on the program,  where are they going to get help during the Obamacare dismantling period- see what I mean?  We need to think clearly,  lives are at stake here. Perhaps some " surgery" could be done to the present program where just about everyone agrees on what a health care system should look like.  Rising costs are unavailable,  we just need costs that even the poor can afford- right? 

I guess you never heard of gangrene, closest match I could think of.  Both will lead to death if allowed to continue.

Read the article linked below.  Just replace blood with money and, well... I think you get the point.  Trump is smart

enough to know that amputation is most likely the best choice at this late stage. 

RL

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangrene

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 6, 2016

I guess you never heard of gangrene, closest match I could think of.  Both will lead to death if allowed to continue.

Read the article linked below.  Just replace blood with money and, well... I think you get the point.  Trump is smart

enough to know that amputation is most likely the best choice at this late stage. 

RL

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangrene

If you conveniently forgot to read my response- l asked " What do you replace it with right now ?" 

You can't change your tire after a blowout IF you do not have a spare. Get my point? RL.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

The beastie Boys huh?

Was just kidding Sully with the above remark. Did get a chuckle from the court case earlier this year..

The third day of the high-stakes copyright trial played out in a downtown federal courtroom as Francis Malofiy, the attorney representing the estate of singer Randy Wolfe, continued to try to build a case that Page and Zeppelin singer Robert Plant lifted parts of Wolfe’s song “Taurus” for the famous acoustic opening of “Stairway.”

Page sparred for two hours with Malofiy, a carry-over from Wednesday when the lawyer called the 72-year-old, white-haired rock star to the stand. In sometimes sharp exchanges, Malofiy tried, largely in vain, to extract incriminating concessions from Page.

Trying to sidestep repeated objections from Zeppelin’s attorneys and increasingly impatient admonitions from U.S. District Judge R. Gary Klausner for out-of-bounds questions, Malofiy delved into the minutiae of the musical composition of “Stairway” in an effort to show similarities to Spirit’s 1968 instrumental “Taurus.” 

“Yeah, that’s what I’m saying,” Page responded brusquely, when Malofiy asked with a clear note of sarcasm whether it was true Page couldn’t estimate the tempo of “Stairway.”

Klausner thwarted much of the inquiry because Page was not designated as a musical expert in the case and so was not permitted to give his opinion on the structure of either song.

The judge also shut down repeated attempts by Malofiy to introduce elements of “Taurus” included in recordings of the song.

noise-gate

My suggestion to you is to alert the FBI, they need to know this Now.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

My suggestion to you is to alert the FBI, they need to know this Now.

Already did.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Trumps latest ad. His argument for America.

https://youtu.be/vST61W4bGm8

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Nov 6, 2016

Already did.

Good for you. Lets see if this story has legs. 

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

US chronic health problem include, joblessness, debt, schools, inter cities, taxes, roads, bridges, ignorance, ISIS

reduced military, major media/news outlets, borders, illegal immigration, crime, un-vetted refugees, drugs, corrupt

government, total disregard for constitution, wall street bankers, derivatives, lawlessness, lawyers, lack of morals

just to name a few.   IMO, the only thing obama is good at is raising debt.  Total failure as a president and after eight

years of his lack of leadership we are 20 trillion in the red and nothing to show for it.  A baby born today owes around

$170,000.00 as soon as he/she takes their first breath.  All hilda has to do to keep his legacy alive is to keep borrowing

in the name of US citizens while lining her pockets with millions.  I think I read obama is worth something like 20 million.

RL

P.S. obamacare is just another liberal democrat produced problem.  It was a lie when it passed and it's a even bigger lie

now.  The intent behind obamacare was never about helping anyone.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Nov 6, 2016

Trumps latest ad. His argument for America.

https://youtu.be/vST61W4bGm8

How about this to counter your you tube piece.

lf Donald Trump wins the presidential election on Tuesday, Citigroup predicts it will negatively affect the stock market because the result would come as a surprise to the financial industry.

The bank predicted Thursday that the S&P 500 would fall by 3% to 5% if Trump is elected, according to a note sent to clients, CNN Money reported. The bank predicted that stocks wouldn’t move significantly if Hillary Clinton wins.

Fortune Mag.  

NOVEMBER 5, 2016, 11:40 AM EST

 

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Good news as far as I am concerned.  POP the bubble obama created with his lies.  I am sure he will go down as

one of the worst presidents in the history of the world.  Hilda will be referred to as his Bitc*.... 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

It's time to pay the piper. 

RL

noise-gate

The American Action Forum, a right-leaning policy institute based in Washington D.C., estimates that immediately and fully enforcing current immigration law, as Trump has suggested, would cost the federal government from $400 billion to $600 billion. It would shrink the labor force by 11 million workers, reduce the real GDP by $1.6 trillion and take 20 years to complete (Trump has said he could do it in 18 months). 

"It will harm the U.S. economy," said Doug Holtz-Eakin, president of the American Action Forum and chief economic policy adviser to Sen. John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign. "Immigration is an enormous source of economic vitality."

The impact would be felt on both supply and demand. " The Street Mag"

Trump supporters would probably say " Who cares- just do it"

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

How about this to counter your you tube piece.

lf Donald Trump wins the presidential election on Tuesday, Citigroup predicts it will negatively affect the stock market because the result would come as a surprise to the financial industry.

The bank predicted Thursday that the S&P 500 would fall by 3% to 5% if Trump is elected, according to a note sent to clients, CNN Money reported. The bank predicted that stocks wouldn’t move significantly if Hillary Clinton wins.

Fortune Mag.  

NOVEMBER 5, 2016, 11:40 AM EST

 

Little tidbit on Citigroup, the Bin Laden family , you know the famous one Osama, they are the largest shareholders.

CNN, Clinton network news, lol

If people are forced to choose between food and healthcare, they won't be putting much in the markets, if they stop adding to 401k's, employers won't be putting in matching....hello.

Hillary and obamacare will cause poverty.

and as far as the uninsured goes, those people could have purchased health care without obamacare.

Now they can pay crazy high prices, and those who are subsidized, well we the taxpyers are stuck with that bill on top of our own high insurance.

No matter how you dish it out, it ain't right to fleece Americans with this monster disaster.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Immigration has and will always benefit the US.  It's the illegal immigration that is a hole in the boat.

Un-vetted refugees are/is even a bigger concern.  They gain citizenship after being here for one year.

Obama wants millions and of these people while blocking Christian and Jews refugees.  Do you see

a problem here?????

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

How about this to counter your you tube piece.

lf Donald Trump wins the presidential election on Tuesday, Citigroup predicts it will negatively affect the stock market because the result would come as a surprise to the financial industry.

The bank predicted Thursday that the S&P 500 would fall by 3% to 5% if Trump is elected, according to a note sent to clients, CNN Money reported. The bank predicted that stocks wouldn’t move significantly if Hillary Clinton wins.

Fortune Mag.  

NOVEMBER 5, 2016, 11:40 AM EST

 

Oh, well. Surprise, surprise, surprise!!!

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Nov 6, 2016

Little tidbit on Citigroup, the Bin Laden family , you know the famous one Osama, they are the largest shareholders.

CNN, Clinton network news, lol

If people are forced to choose between food and healthcare, they won't be putting much in the markets, if they stop adding to 401k's, employers won't be putting in matching....hello.

Hillary and obamacare will cause poverty.

and as far as the uninsured goes, those people could have purchased health care without obamacare.

Now they can pay crazy high prices, and those who are subsidized, well we the taxpyers are stuck with that bill on top of our own high insurance.

No matter how you dish it out, it ain't right to fleece Americans with this monster disaster.

I Agree!

I had health care before Obama and will have it after obama care dies.  I worked for it and paid for it.

We should take care of those who can't care for them selves.  The lazy, that's another question.  The

bible say that a man that won't work should not eat.  I think that should be the deciding factor in all

future health care policies.   It will take creating jobs first so don't expect rapid change, have to fix all

Obama's mistakes first.

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

How much do the people like Hillary? Check out this Tim Kaine rally in Florida.  Nothing but crickets.

http://endingthefed.com/wow-tim-kaine-steps-off-his-plane-in-florida-gets-instantly-humiliated.html#.WB_bMZPFgLk.facebook

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 6, 2016

I Agree!

I had health care before Obama and will have it after obama care dies.  I worked for it and paid for it.

We should take care of those who can't care for them selves.  The lazy, that's another question.  The

bible say that a man that won't work should not eat.  I think that should be the deciding factor in all

future health care policies.   It will take creating jobs first so don't expect rapid change, have to fix all

Obama's mistakes first.

RL

Yep, we have IRA'S AND 401K'S, The last thing I worry about is the dang stock market, wholesale poverty is on the horizon and that will get us all in one form or another.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Kaine is a total nobody.  The FBI has lost all credibility and respect for them is less than zero.  Maybe trump will

dissolve it and start something new.   

RL

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Nov 6, 2016

How much do the people like Hillary? Check out this Tim Kaine rally in Florida.  Nothing but crickets.

http://endingthefed.com/wow-tim-kaine-steps-off-his-plane-in-florida-gets-instantly-humiliated.html#.WB_bMZPFgLk.facebook

oh my, lol

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

How about this to counter your you tube piece.

lf Donald Trump wins the presidential election on Tuesday, Citigroup predicts it will negatively affect the stock market because the result would come as a surprise to the financial industry.

The bank predicted Thursday that the S&P 500 would fall by 3% to 5% if Trump is elected, according to a note sent to clients, CNN Money reported. The bank predicted that stocks wouldn’t move significantly if Hillary Clinton wins.

Fortune Mag.  

NOVEMBER 5, 2016, 11:40 AM EST

 

another tidbit, the Saudis are some of the biggest pay for play in Hillzillas crime spree, not to mention all the other stuff.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Pay off debt and stock up on food and ammo regardless of who is elected.  Bad times headed this way, bring it on. 

RL

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 6, 2016

Pay off debt and stock up on food and ammo regardless of who is elected.  Bad times headed this way, bring it on. 

RL

Roger that.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Nov 6, 2016

another tidbit, the Saudis are some of the biggest pay for play in Hillzillas crime spree, not to mention all the other stuff.

Middle eastern countries are giving multimillion dollar "donations" (aka bribes) to the secretary of state of the United States.

She sold 20% of our countries uranium to the Russians. Yeah, she has America's best interests in mind. Surreee she  does.   Green laugh 

But yet the Hillary supporters don't see anything wrong with this picture.   Bash

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Nov 6, 2016

Middle eastern countries are giving multimillion dollar "donations" (aka bribes) to the secretary of state of the United States.

She sold 20% of our countries uranium to the Russians. Yeah, she has America's best interests in mind. Surreee she  does.   Green laugh 

But yet the Hillary supporters don't see anything wrong with this picture.   Bash

Demwits...what can you do?  Bang Head

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 6, 2016

Demwits...what can you do?  Bang Head

You got that right.  Good msg here from Trump.

https://youtu.be/vST61W4bGm8

noise-gate

Know what's amazing? Despite everything the Trumpettes throw at Hillary- She still leads in the polls. l wonder why that is? Anyone....Anyone?

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Nov 6, 2016

another tidbit, the Saudis are some of the biggest pay for play in Hillzillas crime spree, not to mention all the other stuff.

Aah, yeah. The FBI disagrees though, and as you know they have much more information than you and l on any topic dealing with crimes committed by politicians.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

Aah, yeah. The FBI disagrees though, and as you know they have much more information than you and l on any topic dealing with crimes committed by politicians.

The FBI is now divided, got some angry agents in the way Comey played. He's has been corrupted.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Nov 6, 2016

The FBI is now divided, got some angry agents in the way Comey played. He's has been corrupted.

That's what Fox news & Giulani like saying. Comey is a Republican and Julie is a Trump supporter. Why is it that the FBI is now divided, but was not before?  Is Trump's influence that great that his presence in the Presidential race has caused the FBI to split? Have some agents fallen under his spell?

Image result for sauron palantir

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

That's what Fox news & Giulani like saying. Comey is a Republican and Julie is a Trump supporter. Why is it that the FBI is now divided, but was not before?  Is Trump's influence that great that his presence in the Presidential race has caused the FBI to split? Have some agents fallen under his spell?

Image result for sauron palantir

It has nothing to with Trump....they're divided about whether or not to follow the corrupt justice departments directives.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 6, 2016

It has nothing to with Trump....they're divided about whether or not to follow the corrupt justice departments directives.

It's ONLY corrupt when your guy is not winning. If he was ahead in the Polls & with the electoral College/map, this wouldn't be an issue.

Image result for sour grapes

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

It's ONLY corrupt when your guy is not winning. If he was ahead in the Polls & with the electoral College/map, this wouldn't be an issue.

Image result for sour grapes

As I said, it has NOTHING to with Trump....just plain old good versus evil, wrong versus right....Trumps comments at a rally, don't connect him to  Clinton's crimes and the Justice departments cover up of them.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 6, 2016

As I said, it has NOTHING to with Trump....just plain old good versus evil, wrong versus right....Trumps comments at a rally, don't connect him to  Clinton's crimes and the Justice departments cover up of them.

Surely you not suggesting that Trump is GOOD or are you? As for the so called " Clinton Crimes". Take a history lesson, the Clinton's have been in the Public eye since the 90's. One investigation after another to nail them for anything came down to a BJ. That's right, not murder or some other evil- a BJ.The speaker of the house at that time was Gingrich who was having an affair at the same time that he was " all for impeaching" Clinton.Guess what, Gingrich is an adviser to Trump.What a nice little cabal. Here is the latest from our neck of the woods. Feel free to get some Cheers to cry in on Tuesday.

LA Times : Our projection would give Clinton 352 electoral votes, while Trump would end up with 186. That would put Clinton's electoral majority midway between President Obama's 2008 win and his 2012 reelection.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

That's what Fox news & Giulani like saying. Comey is a Republican and Julie is a Trump supporter. Why is it that the FBI is now divided, but was not before?  Is Trump's influence that great that his presence in the Presidential race has caused the FBI to split? Have some agents fallen under his spell?

Image result for sauron palantir

Many are not happy with Hillary getting away with what she has done,, clearly you don't care, it's okay with you.

Says a lot about who you are.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Nov 6, 2016

Many are not happy with Hillary getting away with what she has done,, clearly you don't care, it's okay with you.

Says a lot about who you are.

l am all for Law and Order. If a smoking Gun can be produced with her name or whatever all over it- l want her prosecuted. No proof, no conviction.If she steps down and Kaine takes over- that's ok. But l am in no way going for Trump.No one in the intelligence community is backing him. None the last time l checked. How is he going to govern when he makes enemies along the way with those in his own party, and the generals? The last time l fell for something was in the 3rd grade when someone traded their jam sandwich for my ham.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

l am all for Law and Order. If a smoking Gun can be produced with her name or whatever all over it- l want her prosecuted. No proof, no conviction.If she steps down and Kaine takes over- that's ok. But l am in no way going for Trump.No one in the intelligence community is backing him. None the last time l checked. How is he going to govern when he makes enemies along the way with those in his own party, and the generals? The last time l fell for something was in the 3rd grade when someone traded their jam sandwich for my ham.

Don't gloat too soon....she hasn't been cleared in the Clinton Foundation investigation....and they didn't say the email case was closed or complete.....just that no charges (at this time)

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

l am all for Law and Order. If a smoking Gun can be produced with her name or whatever all over it- l want her prosecuted. No proof, no conviction.If she steps down and Kaine takes over- that's ok. But l am in no way going for Trump.No one in the intelligence community is backing him. None the last time l checked. How is he going to govern when he makes enemies along the way with those in his own party, and the generals? The last time l fell for something was in the 3rd grade when someone traded their jam sandwich for my ham.

If Hillary is so innocent of everything, then why did she delete those 33,000 emails right after she was subpoenaed to appear  before Congress?

You don't suppose she had something to hide do you? You don't suppose she knew there were things there that would put her ass in jail and she wanted to destroy that evidence do you? Why else would she do it?

Oh that's right, she made a mistake. 33,000 times. Yeah right... C'mon man, don't tell us you can't see through that  BS

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Hilda has not been cleared, as I stated a few pages back that they would use this exactly as they have.

First open a new investigation to get Trump to rail on her criminal activities and then just before election 

they clear her and then try to make Trump look like a fool.  Hilda came out with the "I am OK with it" kind

of response because she already knew what the outcome would be.   Hilda is a crooked lying power hungry

witch and anyone who votes for her is a imbecile.  I guess we have to wait and see how congress and a

special processor will do if it's elected.

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Wikileaks Gives Hillary An Ultimatum: QUIT, Or We Dump Something Life-Destroying


On Sunday, Wikileaks gave Hillary Clinton less than a 24-hour window to drop out of the race or they will dump something that will destroy her “completely.”

Recently, Julian Assangeconfirmed that WikiLeaks was not working with the Russian government, but in their pursuit of justice they are obligated to release anything that they can to bring light to a corrupt system – and who could possibly be more corrupt than Crooked Hillary?

“The Clinton camp has been able to project a neo-McCarthyist hysteria that Russia is responsible for everything. Hillary Clinton has stated multiple times, falsely, that 17 US intelligence agencies had assessed that Russia was the source of our publications. That’s false – we can say that the Russian government is not the source,” Assange said in a recent interview. “Hillary Clinton is just one person. I actually feel quite sorry for Hillary Clinton as a person, because I see someone who is eaten alive by their ambitions, tormented literally to the point where they become sick – for example faint – as a result of going on, and going with their ambitions. But she represents a whole network of people, and a whole network of relationships with particular states.”

“Hey, @HillaryClinton, you have until Monday to drop out, or we will destroy you completely,” the cryptic tweet says.

m4k5i

It is unknown what information WikiLeaks has that has not already been released. Is it proof that Bill molested children when he was with his friend Epstein? Is it something, dare I say, worse?

Part of me hopes that she stays in the race so we can find out what it is. The rest of me just wants her gone.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

Know what's amazing? Despite everything the Trumpettes throw at Hillary- She still leads in the polls. l wonder why that is? Anyone....Anyone?

You mean the polls from these folks?

P77 this thread:

For those pushing poll results and thus the mainstream media.

We have 9000 radio stations and 1500 TV stations.

They are owned by six corporations, GE, NEWSCORP, Disney, Viacom, Time Warner and CBS.

ABC Executive News Producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, National; Security Adviser.

CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama's Deputy National Security Adviser for  Strategic Communications.

ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney.

ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katir Hogan, Obama's Dputy Press Secretary.

ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama's Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood. 

CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton's Deputy secretary Tom Nides. 

See any biased there?

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Dump it, Dump it, Dump it.  I am looking to the leaks which will tie her to several murders.

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

Dump it, Dump it, Dump it.  I am looking to the leaks which will tie her to several murders.

RL

I can't wait to see what they do to her.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

With so many people having died in the Hilda circle I am sure there are emails that will link her to the crime.

http://www.wnd.com/2016/08/clinton-death-list-33-most-intriguing-cases/

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

With so many people having died in the Hilda circle I am sure there are emails that will link her to the crime.

http://www.wnd.com/2016/08/clinton-death-list-33-most-intriguing-cases/

RL

I was reading last week where the body count is up to 114. Unbelievable.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

If I count all the deaths of friends or family in the last 30 years I can't find a single death that was not due to

old age or illness etc....  There are many more than the list of 33 I posted but the 33 are something that should

open a few peoples eyes. 

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

If I count all the deaths of friends or family in the last 30 years I can't find a single death that was not due to

old age or illness etc....  There are many more than the list of 33 I posted but the 33 are something that should

open a few peoples eyes. 

RL

Imagine if they could prove that!!!

The FBI is inadvertently helping Trump.

https://youtu.be/-_k1MKTS9Ho

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Nov 6, 2016

If Hillary is so innocent of everything, then why did she delete those 33,000 emails right after she was subpoenaed to appear  before Congress?

You don't suppose she had something to hide do you? You don't suppose she knew there were things there that would put her ass in jail and she wanted to destroy that evidence do you? Why else would she do it?

Oh that's right, she made a mistake. 33,000 times. Yeah right... C'mon man, don't tell us you can't see through that  BS

The bush administration deleted not 33,000 but 22 million emails- l wonder why, any idea? Btw,  how many investigations do you think came out of it, wanna know: Try Zero. 

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 7, 2016

You mean the polls from these folks?

P77 this thread:

For those pushing poll results and thus the mainstream media.

We have 9000 radio stations and 1500 TV stations.

They are owned by six corporations, GE, NEWSCORP, Disney, Viacom, Time Warner and CBS.

ABC Executive News Producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, National; Security Adviser.

CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama's Deputy National Security Adviser for  Strategic Communications.

ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney.

ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katir Hogan, Obama's Dputy Press Secretary.

ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama's Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood. 

CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton's Deputy secretary Tom Nides. 

See any biased there?

You not seriously suggesting that Trump is in the driver's seat as far as this election is concerned are you Coin Toss? He will have to win every battleground State and then some to clear any hurdles .What's in your coffee? 

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 7, 2016

The bush administration deleted not 33,000 but 22 million emails- l wonder why, any idea? Btw,  how many investigations do you think came out of it, wanna know: Try Zero. 

You still think the Bush and Clinton team are different???  Look a the similarities, even down to Bush voting

for Hilda.  Your argument is like shooting your self in the foot.  It's the outside vs the inside.  I use to trust

the general population but now like the fbi think they are imbeciles.  I will never be able to watch the three

stooges again, too painful.  It use to be comedy but now it's reality.

RL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Nov 6, 2016

Wikileaks Gives Hillary An Ultimatum: QUIT, Or We Dump Something Life-Destroying


On Sunday, Wikileaks gave Hillary Clinton less than a 24-hour window to drop out of the race or they will dump something that will destroy her “completely.”

Recently, Julian Assangeconfirmed that WikiLeaks was not working with the Russian government, but in their pursuit of justice they are obligated to release anything that they can to bring light to a corrupt system – and who could possibly be more corrupt than Crooked Hillary?

“The Clinton camp has been able to project a neo-McCarthyist hysteria that Russia is responsible for everything. Hillary Clinton has stated multiple times, falsely, that 17 US intelligence agencies had assessed that Russia was the source of our publications. That’s false – we can say that the Russian government is not the source,” Assange said in a recent interview. “Hillary Clinton is just one person. I actually feel quite sorry for Hillary Clinton as a person, because I see someone who is eaten alive by their ambitions, tormented literally to the point where they become sick – for example faint – as a result of going on, and going with their ambitions. But she represents a whole network of people, and a whole network of relationships with particular states.”

“Hey, @HillaryClinton, you have until Monday to drop out, or we will destroy you completely,” the cryptic tweet says.

m4k5i

It is unknown what information WikiLeaks has that has not already been released. Is it proof that Bill molested children when he was with his friend Epstein? Is it something, dare I say, worse?

Part of me hopes that she stays in the race so we can find out what it is. The rest of me just wants her gone.

The voters are not paying attention to Wikileaks.If they were the previous batch of emails would have sunk her. Julian 's days of pulling this crap are coming to a close and he knows it. His wanted in his home country for raping an underage girl. 

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Voters not looking at wikileaks is a God send for Hilda, if they took the time to see what has went on they would

surly flee the Clinton camp and vote Trump.   I guess after the election they will try and tell us, "we didn't have a

clue about her." 

 

Imbeciles vote Hilda.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

You still think the Bush and Clinton team are different???  Look a the similarities, even down to Bush voting

for Hilda.  Your argument is like shooting your self in the foot.  It's the outside vs the inside.  I use to trust

the general population but now like the fbi think they are imbeciles.  I will never be able to watch the three

stooges again, too painful.  It use to be comedy but now it's reality.

RL

Clinton administration left bush with a surplus,  bush left Obama with deficits.  How can you say they are the same? 

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

Voters not looking at wikileaks is a God send for Hilda, if they took the time to see what has went on they would

surly flee the Clinton camp and vote Trump.   I guess after the election they will try and tell us, "we didn't have a

clue about her." 

 

Imbeciles vote Hilda.

If the FBI cannot find " enough" evidence to hang her out to dry, what makes you think that Wikileaks can.Are you saying the FBI is incompetent but Julian isn't? Hello Mr " working on my PH.D"- answer the question.  Is the FBI incompetent? 

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 7, 2016

Clinton administration left bush with a surplus,  bush left Obama with deficits.  How can you say they are the same? 

Clinton surplus was inherited from the Reagan administration and the Dot-Coms.  It has taken years for Bush, Clinton, Bush and

Obama to reach 20 trillion.  Nafta was a billy boys idea which took years to come full circle.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

The FBI says no one would take the case.  I have seen many who would take it in a second and believe they

could get a conviction without problem.

RL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

Clinton surplus was inherited from the Reagan administration and the Dot-Coms.  It has taken years for Bush, Clinton, Bush and

Obama to reach 20 trillion.  Nafta was a billy boys idea which took years to come full circle.

RL

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel good. Reagan was trickle down economics, something his VP called " Voodoo Economics"

St Reagan gets the credit for everything good,  yet you guys never ever mention that his administration was the most corrupt of any President alive or dead. 

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 7, 2016

The voters are not paying attention to Wikileaks.If they were the previous batch of emails would have sunk her. Julian 's days of pulling this crap are coming to a close and he knows it. His wanted in his home country for raping an underage girl. 

If they were the previous batch of emails would have sunk her....

 

If justice is served , your own words would be true...and therein lies the issue. Demwit ZOMBIES and a corrupt Justice Department will lead our country into war, because Hillary is too power hungry and entitled to do what's best for America. ( If she truly cared, she would have stepped out of the race) Too many people's lives and careers are at stake for the truth to prevail with the current political landscape....too many in high positions have blood on their hands, and  if she goes down, the dominoes take them all.  On the other hand, Hillary is still being investigated for pay to play in her role as Secretary of State.

Your vote is your business, and I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, because, as they say...you can't fix stupid.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

The average democrat is a Imbecile.  I am glad for all the smart democrats who have decided to vote Trump.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

This election is not Republican vs Democrat, it's about the people taking back the country.  The Republican party has it's

share off Imbeciles, so thank God for those voting Trump. 

RL

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 7, 2016

If they were the previous batch of emails would have sunk her....

 

If justice is served , your own words would be true...and therein lies the issue. Demwit ZOMBIES and a corrupt Justice Department will lead our country into war, because Hillary is too power hungry and entitled to do what's best for America. ( If she truly cared, she would have stepped out of the race) Too many people's lives and careers are at stake for the truth to prevail with the current political landscape....too many in high positions have blood on their hands, and  if she goes down, the dominoes take them all.  On the other hand, Hillary is still being investigated for pay to play in her role as Secretary of State.

Your vote is your business, and I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, because, as they say...you can't fix stupid.

It's quite obvious that you have not been paying attention to current events. Hillary Clinton has been before one hearing after another and no dirt had been found on her. Time for you and your ilk to pick up your toys and go home. It ends Tuesday * just a little reminder. 

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

The average democrat is a Imbecile.  I am glad for all the smart democrats who have decided to vote Trump.

RL

And voting for Trump is for geniuses? 

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Meh....good luck with that....because even if she wins.....you lose.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 7, 2016

You not seriously suggesting that Trump is in the driver's seat as far as this election is concerned are you Coin Toss? He will have to win every battleground State and then some to clear any hurdles .What's in your coffee? 

No, my point is those putting together the polls are serving up bogus results to please their puppet masters. 

 

The only real news comes from FOX, Israel, and Canada.
noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 7, 2016

Meh....good luck with that....because even if she wins.....you lose.

Come Tuesday night we will find out who leads the country moving forward. One thing I look forward to is having all the obstructionists kicked out of the way. Pack your crap up and goodbye to your sorry a****

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 7, 2016

No, my point is those putting together the polls are serving up bogus results to please their puppet masters. 

 

The only real news comes from FOX, Israel, and Canada.

Medical studies and polls always skewed the results according to whose paying for them. Pay to play....hey, where have I heard that lately? Considering what her SOS netted her, the POTUS would be a boon!

God help us all, and vote TRUMP.

Not because he's the messiah, but because he's the only one standing between us and the <snip> devil.

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JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 7, 2016

Come Tuesday night we will find out who leads the country moving forward. One thing I look forward to is having all the obstructionists kicked out of the way. Pack your crap up and goodbye to your sorry a****

Obstructionists? To more corruption? Count me in.  Hillary, is this you? Are you drunk? The only obstructionists are sitting within our Justice Department....and I welcome their ousts.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 7, 2016

Obstructionists? To more corruption? Count me in.  Hillary, is this you? Are you drunk? The only obstructionists are sitting within our Justice Department....and I welcome their ousts.

The most corrupt administration was Republican & it was Reagan's. Nothing comes close. Stop kidding yourself. The word corruption is in your mind- you're been brainwashed. I would suggest you get some sleep.  It all ends Tuesday night. Your friend thinks that Wikileaks is doing a better job than the FBI- if you think that,  you both probably  communists..

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 7, 2016

The most corrupt administration was Republican & it was Reagan's. Nothing comes close. Stop kidding yourself. The word corruption is in your mind- you're been brainwashed. I would suggest you get some sleep.  It all ends Tuesday night. Your friend thinks that Wikileaks is doing a better job than the FBI- if you think that,  you both probably  communists..

WTH kind of argument is that? I get it....your comments make it clear that you've cleared your conscience to vote for corruption. I can't help ya there....you've failed us and your future, and that of your ancestors.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 7, 2016

The most corrupt administration was Republican & it was Reagan's. Nothing comes close. Stop kidding yourself. The word corruption is in your mind- you're been brainwashed. I would suggest you get some sleep.  It all ends Tuesday night. Your friend thinks that Wikileaks is doing a better job than the FBI- if you think that,  you both probably  communists..

You obviously aren't smart enough to figure out that a dirty bird still needs both wings. Keep the division going, it serves them, (not us)

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 7, 2016

WTH kind of argument is that? I get it....your comments make it clear that you've cleared your conscience to vote for corruption. I can't help ya there....you've failed us and your future, and that of your ancestors.

Go  ahead and vote for whoever you want just don't try and convince people that Trump is the better choice. His not according to millions of Americans. You folks never want to hear any  negative talk about him.His all good.speaks bad about women, no problem,  lies like a dog, no problem. But just you talk about Hillary and your venom rises. As l said,  it ends on Tuesday and l look forward to seeing where the republican party goes once Trump picks up his tent and heads back to his hotels & golf courses. Who do you think rises from the ashes? Concentrate on that instead of your candidate. 

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I remember the Nixon water-gate scandal and then the Carter presidency.  When Reagan ran I remember how

so many people were so scared of him.  Crater was a good man but a horrible president.  When I was in the 

Air Force the pay was less than $400.00 per month.  Remember when Reagan talked about how part time workers

at McDonald's made more than our military members.  Remember when we tried to rescue our people from Iran

and the equipment broke down.  Reagan promised to increase military pay and get our people back.  He did that

and more.  I did not care anything about him running as a democrat or republican I trusted what he said.  We are

in a similar situation now and Trump sounds more like the message of Reagan.  The democrats of the time demonized

Reagan ike they are doing now to Trump.   My vote will go to the person who I think will protect the rights of Americans,

the Constitution, and the sovereignty of the United States.  With these things in place the rest will take care of it's self. 

RL

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Who do you think rises from the ashes?

I'm not concerned with the party, just the principle ....and the people.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

I remember the Nixon water-gate scandal and then the Carter presidency.  When Reagan ran I remember how

so many people were so scared of him.  Crater was a good man but a horrible president.  When I was in the 

Air Force the pay was less than $400.00 per month.  Remember when Reagan talked about how part time workers

at McDonald's made more than our military members.  Remember when we tried to rescue our people from Iran

and the equipment broke down.  Reagan promised to increase military pay and get our people back.  He did that

and more.  I did not care anything about him running as a democrat or republican I trusted what he said.  We are

in a similar situation now and Trump sounds more like the message of Reagan.  The democrats of the time demonized

Reagan ike they are doing now to Trump.   My vote will go to the person who I think will protect the rights of Americans,

the Constitution, and the sovereignty of the United States.  With these things in place the rest will take care of it's self. 

RL

Trump sounds like Reagan?  They both came out of the entertainment world but the similarities stop right there. Trump is nothing like Reagan.  Was it not Reagan who said " Do not speak ill of another Republican".. or something of the kind? I was under 10 when Reagan came into office but l loved history and read tons growing up. But please don't tell me & others that Trump reminds you of Reagan. Reagan was not called the Great communicator for nothing. He knew how to TALK to people.Reagan had a track record of being a Governor- what's Trump's record, owning Hotels.  Your memory fails you.

Good nite.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Nov 6, 2016

With all due respect to your post Sully.America is NOT electing a Dictator, If Hillary is elected,  she is  going to have to go through Congress to get things passed. Let's lay off the Gloom & Doom as though we will see soup kitchens on every street corner. I wish the best for America. You cannot seriously be thinking that all the people voting for her are all idiots? Let's get real here.Or are you saying Trump supporters are Smarter?  I read today that a Trump win will send the stock market plunging to new depths &  America into a recession like one we have never seen before,  and this is coming from economists. Are they idiots as well?

"With all due respect to your post Sully.America is NOT electing a Dictator, If Hillary is elected,  she is  going to have to go through Congress to get things passed. Let's lay off the Gloom & Doom as though we will see soup kitchens on every street corner."

Looking back at this thread it's almost the uninformed against the well informed with "gloom and doom" sprinkled in. We keep hearing that the Obamacare premiums are going up, but I don't know anybody on it. Maybe Trump's supporters here will explain how it effect them.

When Trump called for a ban on all Muslim entering a the U.S. and building a very high wall on the Mexico border, I thought he was just exaggerating and would eventually explain what he meant, but he never has. If a foreign leader downgraded America as much as Trump has, his followers would probably demand we nuke their country.

"You cannot seriously be thinking that all the people voting for her are all idiots? Let's get real here.Or are you saying Trump supporters are Smarter?"

I heard Trump say it, quoted him here, and gave a link to the video where Trump said "I love the poor educated", but instead of being offended, some of the people here are trying to prove it.

"The bush administration deleted not 33,000 but 22 million emails-"

Can you imagine how many emails Nixon's people would have deleted?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

I remember the Nixon water-gate scandal and then the Carter presidency.  When Reagan ran I remember how

so many people were so scared of him.  Crater was a good man but a horrible president.  When I was in the 

Air Force the pay was less than $400.00 per month.  Remember when Reagan talked about how part time workers

at McDonald's made more than our military members.  Remember when we tried to rescue our people from Iran

and the equipment broke down.  Reagan promised to increase military pay and get our people back.  He did that

and more.  I did not care anything about him running as a democrat or republican I trusted what he said.  We are

in a similar situation now and Trump sounds more like the message of Reagan.  The democrats of the time demonized

Reagan ike they are doing now to Trump.   My vote will go to the person who I think will protect the rights of Americans,

the Constitution, and the sovereignty of the United States.  With these things in place the rest will take care of it's self. 

RL

"Remember when Reagan talked about how part time workersat McDonald's made more than our military members.  Remember when we tried to rescue our people from Iran and the equipment broke down."

Our people in Iran where released while Reagan was being inaugurated. You're confusing "Hot Shots! Part Deux" with real history.

"My vote will go to the person who I think will protect the rights of Americans"

Are you voting for Abraham Lincoln again?

dr65's avatardr65

Bravo Kellyanne!!

https://youtu.be/a1zS8vLEDNc 

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I guess you had to be there, What's been written about Reagan has been greatly filtered through Nancy.

Reagan would have never survived today's media attacks.  It was not so much his words but that he left

one believing what he said.  I remember the comedy skit where he was asked what he thought about

foreign affairs. The response was "I think if your going to have a affair, it should be with a American girl. 

He was mocked for not having any foreign affairs experience back then.  Believe it or not, people like you

condemned  him just like your doing to Trump now. 

Some were sure he was the beast, Ronald Eugene Reagan, 6 letters in each name, 666.  I knew a women

who lived in CA. while he was Governor she told me he was evil and that she did not trust him as far as she

could throw him.  Most people believe what they see on TV.  Some thought that he was just acting like he had

done all his life.   I am older and in my lifetime I have delt with many people, IMHO Trump is the real deal.

Rough as a cob and hard as a rock, sincere to the bone.   I still rate girls on the 1 to 10 scale like it of not.

It's like the locker room stuff and as such does not really apply to the person but the level of attraction he or

she has toward that person.  One guy may think she' a 10 while another might rate her a 5.   This is one of

Hilda's main reasons he is unfit to be president.  Really, talk about skimming the bottom of the barrel to find

fault. 

He was believed to be unfit to have his finger on the button.  Watch this video

GENESIS - Land of Confusion (1986)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHmH1xQ2Pf4

 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I bet all the people clapping in the video were democrats who thought he was a horrible president.

Now he is believed by many to be one on the best.  Go figure.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Pay close attention to the imagery in the video, you will see the same tactics being used today.

Wake up America, your thought process is being programmed by the media.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Hilda campaigned with Katy Perry, Listen to the words of this song and let me know if you want this crap being

programmed into your teenage daughters. 

 

PS look at the number of views for this video and tell me we are heading in the right direction.  This is just one

video, others of the same song are well over a billion.

 

RL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sd5c4o9UM

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 7, 2016

"Remember when Reagan talked about how part time workersat McDonald's made more than our military members.  Remember when we tried to rescue our people from Iran and the equipment broke down."

Our people in Iran where released while Reagan was being inaugurated. You're confusing "Hot Shots! Part Deux" with real history.

"My vote will go to the person who I think will protect the rights of Americans"

Are you voting for Abraham Lincoln again?

stack-of-ass-cakes

Afraid not, everyone knows it was Reagan's pre election stance that was the force behind the deal.

Iran would not of released the hostages had Jimmy been elected again.  Carter never fired a shot

during his entire term.  Iran knew he would not do anything except talk.   Nothing against Carter but

it's clear as glass that bad guys don't get all fearful when inks  the only weapon on the table.  Stop ISIS,

please stop or I will splash ink on you.  I just heard ISIS ordered insurgents to attack during the election

on Tuesday.  Filling my tank the other day a guy told me that down in Arkansas there were cells of refugees

living in rural areas just across the MO border.  Why would un-vetted refugees be placed in such a area.

RL

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 7, 2016

"With all due respect to your post Sully.America is NOT electing a Dictator, If Hillary is elected,  she is  going to have to go through Congress to get things passed. Let's lay off the Gloom & Doom as though we will see soup kitchens on every street corner."

Looking back at this thread it's almost the uninformed against the well informed with "gloom and doom" sprinkled in. We keep hearing that the Obamacare premiums are going up, but I don't know anybody on it. Maybe Trump's supporters here will explain how it effect them.

When Trump called for a ban on all Muslim entering a the U.S. and building a very high wall on the Mexico border, I thought he was just exaggerating and would eventually explain what he meant, but he never has. If a foreign leader downgraded America as much as Trump has, his followers would probably demand we nuke their country.

"You cannot seriously be thinking that all the people voting for her are all idiots? Let's get real here.Or are you saying Trump supporters are Smarter?"

I heard Trump say it, quoted him here, and gave a link to the video where Trump said "I love the poor educated", but instead of being offended, some of the people here are trying to prove it.

"The bush administration deleted not 33,000 but 22 million emails-"

Can you imagine how many emails Nixon's people would have deleted?

Obamacare did directly affect me until about a year ago. I still feel for the people caught in that trap. It's a TAX, only paid to insurance companies instead of government, on the healthy to pay for health care for the uninsurable. 

Oh, but now they're insured too you say. Yeah, expensive, high deductable insurance.  $6000 deductables on the least expensive plans. 

And then there's the small business growth-stopping "employer mandate" that forces them to keep full time headcount under 50 to avoid fines/insurance mandates. 

Nice to hear you don't care about the people affected just because you don't know any of them yourself.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

Dump it, Dump it, Dump it.  I am looking to the leaks which will tie her to several murders.

RL

That is why Comey caved in. He didn't want to be #34, by "suicide".

sully16's avatarsully16

It will affect all of us, one way or another.

I know many people who are already getting rid of the little things, magazine subscriptions, down grade of cable, no more going to the movies, eating out, cd's, dvd's, cell phones, nail salons, hair salons, vacations etc.

My point, prices will go up, inflation sets in and more people get rid of the extras, people will get laid off, more will go on food stamps.

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on Nov 7, 2016

It will affect all of us, one way or another.

I know many people who are already getting rid of the little things, magazine subscriptions, down grade of cable, no more going to the movies, eating out, cd's, dvd's, cell phones, nail salons, hair salons, vacations etc.

My point, prices will go up, inflation sets in and more people get rid of the extras, people will get laid off, more will go on food stamps.

I understand. Health Insurance can't be fixed in any reasonable way until health care costs are brought down.

And that's a whole 'nother topic.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Nov 7, 2016

I understand. Health Insurance can't be fixed in any reasonable way until health care costs are brought down.

And that's a whole 'nother topic.

I agree, healthcare costs are way out of control.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

I guess you had to be there, What's been written about Reagan has been greatly filtered through Nancy.

Reagan would have never survived today's media attacks.  It was not so much his words but that he left

one believing what he said.  I remember the comedy skit where he was asked what he thought about

foreign affairs. The response was "I think if your going to have a affair, it should be with a American girl. 

He was mocked for not having any foreign affairs experience back then.  Believe it or not, people like you

condemned  him just like your doing to Trump now. 

Some were sure he was the beast, Ronald Eugene Reagan, 6 letters in each name, 666.  I knew a women

who lived in CA. while he was Governor she told me he was evil and that she did not trust him as far as she

could throw him.  Most people believe what they see on TV.  Some thought that he was just acting like he had

done all his life.   I am older and in my lifetime I have delt with many people, IMHO Trump is the real deal.

Rough as a cob and hard as a rock, sincere to the bone.   I still rate girls on the 1 to 10 scale like it of not.

It's like the locker room stuff and as such does not really apply to the person but the level of attraction he or

she has toward that person.  One guy may think she' a 10 while another might rate her a 5.   This is one of

Hilda's main reasons he is unfit to be president.  Really, talk about skimming the bottom of the barrel to find

fault. 

He was believed to be unfit to have his finger on the button.  Watch this video

GENESIS - Land of Confusion (1986)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHmH1xQ2Pf4

 

RL

l am touched by your remarks. One thing you forgetting in all of this is : Republican politicians whom he had to work with did not refuse to endorse Reagan en masse.

Have a pleasant day- l mean it.

sully16's avatarsully16

If Hillary wins this election, I will tie a black ribbon on my Maple Tree and place a black wreath on my door to show we are a nation in mourning.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by ArizonaDream on Nov 7, 2016

Obamacare did directly affect me until about a year ago. I still feel for the people caught in that trap. It's a TAX, only paid to insurance companies instead of government, on the healthy to pay for health care for the uninsurable. 

Oh, but now they're insured too you say. Yeah, expensive, high deductable insurance.  $6000 deductables on the least expensive plans. 

And then there's the small business growth-stopping "employer mandate" that forces them to keep full time headcount under 50 to avoid fines/insurance mandates. 

Nice to hear you don't care about the people affected just because you don't know any of them yourself.

"Obamacare did directly affect me until about a year ago. I still feel for the people caught in that trap."

You were on it or you weren't and if you weren't, what you feel about it is irrelevant. Slightly more than 3% of Americans enrolled in Obamacare so I asked why it should be such a big deal to the some of the other 97%. And why they should be concerned those problems.

"It's a TAX, only paid to insurance companies instead of government, on the healthy to pay for health care for the uninsurable."

My heath care plan began changing in 2006 when "deductibles and co-pay" was added. And part of the reason was the uninsured. If the 3% aren't forced to get the insurance, the 80% who pay for their insurance will pay for the uninsured hospital visits too. We are already paying Medicaid for 70 million Americans. Why not get them jobs and get them off the handout lists?

"Yeah, expensive, high deductable insurance.  $6000 deductables on the least expensive plans."

Why is it impossible for some of you Trump supporters to simply show the facts? I know your college professors made you cite a sources so why don't you do it here?

"Nice to hear you don't care about the people affected just because you don't know any of them yourself."

Trump will never raise minimum wage above the poverty level so don't lecture me about caring for the poor. He only cares about the poorly educated: as long as you vote for him.

CARBOB

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 7, 2016

"Obamacare did directly affect me until about a year ago. I still feel for the people caught in that trap."

You were on it or you weren't and if you weren't, what you feel about it is irrelevant. Slightly more than 3% of Americans enrolled in Obamacare so I asked why it should be such a big deal to the some of the other 97%. And why they should be concerned those problems.

"It's a TAX, only paid to insurance companies instead of government, on the healthy to pay for health care for the uninsurable."

My heath care plan began changing in 2006 when "deductibles and co-pay" was added. And part of the reason was the uninsured. If the 3% aren't forced to get the insurance, the 80% who pay for their insurance will pay for the uninsured hospital visits too. We are already paying Medicaid for 70 million Americans. Why not get them jobs and get them off the handout lists?

"Yeah, expensive, high deductable insurance.  $6000 deductables on the least expensive plans."

Why is it impossible for some of you Trump supporters to simply show the facts? I know your college professors made you cite a sources so why don't you do it here?

"Nice to hear you don't care about the people affected just because you don't know any of them yourself."

Trump will never raise minimum wage above the poverty level so don't lecture me about caring for the poor. He only cares about the poorly educated: as long as you vote for him.

Your health care began increasing, because of illegal's getting free health care.

bigbear29

that is what trump preaches DOOM AND GROOM,  THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END! TOTAL BS

kreative1's avatarkreative1

Quote: Originally posted by bigbear29 on Nov 7, 2016

that is what trump preaches DOOM AND GROOM,  THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END! TOTAL BS

He needs a new groomer bigbear lol

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

stack-of-ass-cakes

Afraid not, everyone knows it was Reagan's pre election stance that was the force behind the deal.

Iran would not of released the hostages had Jimmy been elected again.  Carter never fired a shot

during his entire term.  Iran knew he would not do anything except talk.   Nothing against Carter but

it's clear as glass that bad guys don't get all fearful when inks  the only weapon on the table.  Stop ISIS,

please stop or I will splash ink on you.  I just heard ISIS ordered insurgents to attack during the election

on Tuesday.  Filling my tank the other day a guy told me that down in Arkansas there were cells of refugees

living in rural areas just across the MO border.  Why would un-vetted refugees be placed in such a area.

RL

"Afraid not, everyone knows it was Reagan's pre election stance that was the force behind the deal."

You're about as delusional as Kellyanne.

FYI to you and all the LP Trump supporters, Mike Pence authored the Unlawful Internet Gambling Act and as Governor of Indiana is 100% against expanding any form of gambling in that state. If Pence is elected, will you still be allowed to sell your lottery systems?

"Filling my tank the other day a guy told me that down in Arkansas there were cells of refugees living in rural areas just across the MO border.  Why would un-vetted refugees be placed in such a area."

Same thing happened to me when paying for gas when a guy told everyone that could hear him, if elected Clinton will double the price of gas. The difference between you and me, I'm not gullible enough to believe what I heard. Even Trump's poorly educated supporters should be intelligent enough to do the research.

A group, Canopy NWA seeks to bring into Arkansas 100 refugees a year. They are not even here so how do you know they are not vetted?

ArizonaDream's avatarArizonaDream

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 7, 2016

"Obamacare did directly affect me until about a year ago. I still feel for the people caught in that trap."

You were on it or you weren't and if you weren't, what you feel about it is irrelevant. Slightly more than 3% of Americans enrolled in Obamacare so I asked why it should be such a big deal to the some of the other 97%. And why they should be concerned those problems.

"It's a TAX, only paid to insurance companies instead of government, on the healthy to pay for health care for the uninsurable."

My heath care plan began changing in 2006 when "deductibles and co-pay" was added. And part of the reason was the uninsured. If the 3% aren't forced to get the insurance, the 80% who pay for their insurance will pay for the uninsured hospital visits too. We are already paying Medicaid for 70 million Americans. Why not get them jobs and get them off the handout lists?

"Yeah, expensive, high deductable insurance.  $6000 deductables on the least expensive plans."

Why is it impossible for some of you Trump supporters to simply show the facts? I know your college professors made you cite a sources so why don't you do it here?

"Nice to hear you don't care about the people affected just because you don't know any of them yourself."

Trump will never raise minimum wage above the poverty level so don't lecture me about caring for the poor. He only cares about the poorly educated: as long as you vote for him.

I wasn't on it,  because it was too expensive with a crazy high deductable. I paid the penalty instead. 

 

You need a source for the high deductable? Try healthcare.gov. Go to 2017 costs and start the plan selection questions.

 

You want to get people working and off Medicaid, fine by me. I think Trump will do more for job creation and retention. Get illegals out of the job pool and keep jobs in the US, and wages will naturally rise.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by CARBOB on Nov 7, 2016

Your health care began increasing, because of illegal's getting free health care.

It started around 2006 when co-pay was used to pay the deductible. I don't know how they sort it out now who gets Medicaid, but I know some illegal are getting it in KY.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

TOMORROW'S THE BIG DAY!  Trump rally in NC, live stream starts now.  After that he'll be in PA then NH. 

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Nov 7, 2016

TOMORROW'S THE BIG DAY!  Trump rally in NC, live stream starts now.  After that he'll be in PA then NH. 

If Trump loses in North Carolina, he can start writing his concession speech.

The last time I looked Clinton was ahead in the polls by on average 6 points in a state that voted Democrat in every election since 1984 (Wisconsin even voted for Dukakis in 1988). Have any logical reason to believe that Trump will win there?

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 7, 2016

If Trump loses in North Carolina, he can start writing his concession speech.

The last time I looked Clinton was ahead in the polls by on average 6 points in a state that voted Democrat in every election since 1984 (Wisconsin even voted for Dukakis in 1988). Have any logical reason to believe that Trump will win there?

Ain't over until the fat lady sings.   This should be an interesting thread tomorrow night.

CARBOB

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 7, 2016

It started around 2006 when co-pay was used to pay the deductible. I don't know how they sort it out now who gets Medicaid, but I know some illegal are getting it in KY.

Why are they getting Medicaid? There is still a co-pay for that, right?

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by CARBOB on Nov 7, 2016

Why are they getting Medicaid? There is still a co-pay for that, right?

Medicaid is "free health care" for welfare and SSI recipients. It's the children of the illegals getting Medicaid in KY. From what I've read, Medicare only pays 80% so you'll need a supplement.

I have no solution for solving the problem of the deporting the parents of children born in U.S without deporting the kids.

LottoAce's avatarLottoAce

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 7, 2016

Medicaid is "free health care" for welfare and SSI recipients. It's the children of the illegals getting Medicaid in KY. From what I've read, Medicare only pays 80% so you'll need a supplement.

I have no solution for solving the problem of the deporting the parents of children born in U.S without deporting the kids.

sieze thier american born, natural U.S. citizen children and throw them
in the Shriners orphanage, deport the parents!

don't let them see thier kids untill they go through the proper channels
to become citizens and pay taxes!

problem solved.

and they call me a bleeding heart left wing liberal?

dr65's avatardr65

Outstanding Michigan rally...it was near riot when Trump brought the kids onstage with their

T
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Shirts on....absolutely terrific!! The screaming was out of this world. This is the man. The numbers at

rally's are and always were insane...almost 5,000 at Florida.

Let this man win tomorrow because I do not want arrogance ruling this country. Arrogance has no heart.

Trump does. 

US Flag

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 7, 2016

Medicaid is "free health care" for welfare and SSI recipients. It's the children of the illegals getting Medicaid in KY. From what I've read, Medicare only pays 80% so you'll need a supplement.

I have no solution for solving the problem of the deporting the parents of children born in U.S without deporting the kids.

Easy, change the law so that if the parents are not citiezns then neither are the kids.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 7, 2016

"Afraid not, everyone knows it was Reagan's pre election stance that was the force behind the deal."

You're about as delusional as Kellyanne.

FYI to you and all the LP Trump supporters, Mike Pence authored the Unlawful Internet Gambling Act and as Governor of Indiana is 100% against expanding any form of gambling in that state. If Pence is elected, will you still be allowed to sell your lottery systems?

"Filling my tank the other day a guy told me that down in Arkansas there were cells of refugees living in rural areas just across the MO border.  Why would un-vetted refugees be placed in such a area."

Same thing happened to me when paying for gas when a guy told everyone that could hear him, if elected Clinton will double the price of gas. The difference between you and me, I'm not gullible enough to believe what I heard. Even Trump's poorly educated supporters should be intelligent enough to do the research.

A group, Canopy NWA seeks to bring into Arkansas 100 refugees a year. They are not even here so how do you know they are not vetted?

Find one person on the entire earth that says they bought a lottery system from me and I will show you the

worlds biggest liar. 

 

Ayatollah Khomeini stated that he would never release the hostages while Carter was in office.

 

The guy I talked with was not a stranger, hmmmm, almost a million refugees entered this country and Arkansas

gets 100 per year.   If all 50 states took in 100 then that accounts for 5,000, wonder where the others are.

 

None of the refugees are properly vetted and are also not tracked.  Turned loose so to say and in a year they

will become American citizens by simply filling a form.   

 

I watched Obama say in a interview today that illegals living here were citizens and as such could vote.  He did not

say they were American citizens but by living in the US they were citizens.  Come on, anyone who uses such taticts

is either a total idiot or a bald faced liar.  In his case, maybe both.

 

There is no dept that the demos won't sink to. 

 

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

The world, and all this time I thought he was talking about the American way of life.   Obama hates white people

and Hilda hates everyone else.  Heck, I bet she even hates billy boy.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by LottoAce on Nov 7, 2016

sieze thier american born, natural U.S. citizen children and throw them
in the Shriners orphanage, deport the parents!

don't let them see thier kids untill they go through the proper channels
to become citizens and pay taxes!

problem solved.

and they call me a bleeding heart left wing liberal?

RL's 6 step policy to deal with illegals

------------------------------------------------

1- No border baby citizenship.

2- Migrant worker straight tax of 15%.

3- Using undocumented workers, 100,000.00 fine for each occurrence. see 4 

4- 3-Strike law. 3rd strike = 5 year prison term.

5- Violent crime,  death penalty

6- Other crimes,  ejection from US for 10 years

Agree, welcome to the US, otherwise get the hell out.

 

Concerning citizenship.

Apply for and complete all the requirements

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Nov 7, 2016

That is why Comey caved in. He didn't want to be #34, by "suicide".

I have only one hope for Comey and that's centered around not wanting to go after the emails

and focusing on the foundation.  Wait until after the election and then use the information to

keep her in line, blackmail I know but she is no doubt very astute to the concept.   If Hilda wins

she will be dodging criminal prosecution the entire time.  Here is what drives me nuts.  Democrats

have to admit she suffers from one or all three of these.  First she is guilty of felonies that could put

her in prison.  2nd she is lame brained and can only remember stuff unrelated to the emails.  3rd

she is a compulsive liar.   If they think all this is made up then they suffer from delusional thinking.

Here is what bothers me most, Obama's legacy is obama-care which is totally illegal as it is a

unfair Tax and he is hell bent on saving it.  Or maybe it has nothing to do with obama-care and is

much more concerned about his other agenda.  One world government where the rich rule it all.

Obama is not poor, neither are his main supporters.  The US has suffered greatly under his watch

and not only middle class but across the board.   Not one thing has been left unaffected in a bad

way except for the super rich who are backing him.  They needed a black president so that any time

someone disagreed with his plans they would be called a racist which no one wants to own up to.

Everyone is racist in some way if anyone is interested in the truth and it will always be that way.

Anyway just some food for thought.

RL

grwurston's avatargrwurston

NYPD po'ed at FBI. Check out what Obama said about Hillary 13:39 into video.

https://youtu.be/B-fmpUmboso

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

 

 

Obama today, "let's finish what we started" huh Thud

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

 

 

Obama today, "let's finish what we started" huh Thud

Thanks, RL!!! I was trying to post this.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Glad to help.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

 

 

Obama today, "let's finish what we started" huh Thud

and nothing has changed.

This is the ONLY thing I will agree with Obama, sure would like to know if he would take back his words?  Lol.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

We could replace Obama's pic with Hilda's and change the names around without a conflict.  The same thing

could be said for both.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Trump supporters will come out in herds tomorrow, add a multitude to the published calculations.  Clinton running

scared because they know the real story.  Even in the blue states.

RL

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

Trump supporters will come out in herds tomorrow, add a multitude to the published calculations.  Clinton running

scared because they know the real story.  Even in the blue states.

RL

Makes me wonder, how much document shredding, bleach bit remover , finger print erasing they will have to do before Trump gets in office.

I think they got a mess to clean up, more than we know.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

I was talking to a man at the store, he said he told his wife he was voting for Johnson because she "forbid him" to vote for Trump, but he secretly voted Trump...lol!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

Find one person on the entire earth that says they bought a lottery system from me and I will show you the

worlds biggest liar. 

 

Ayatollah Khomeini stated that he would never release the hostages while Carter was in office.

 

The guy I talked with was not a stranger, hmmmm, almost a million refugees entered this country and Arkansas

gets 100 per year.   If all 50 states took in 100 then that accounts for 5,000, wonder where the others are.

 

None of the refugees are properly vetted and are also not tracked.  Turned loose so to say and in a year they

will become American citizens by simply filling a form.   

 

I watched Obama say in a interview today that illegals living here were citizens and as such could vote.  He did not

say they were American citizens but by living in the US they were citizens.  Come on, anyone who uses such taticts

is either a total idiot or a bald faced liar.  In his case, maybe both.

 

There is no dept that the demos won't sink to. 

 

RL

"Find one person on the entire earth that says they bought a lottery system from me and I will show you the worlds biggest liar."

I never read where somebody bought one of your systems, but so what, you can't sell it even if you wanted to if Pence gets elected. Still suffering from the same old reading disorder?

"The guy I talked with was not a stranger, hmmmm, almost a million refugees entered this country and Arkansas gets 100 per year.   If all 50 states took in 100 then that accounts for 5,000, wonder where the others are."

Did you miss the link I gave debunking that nonsense?

"None of the refugees are properly vetted and are also not tracked."

Why would they vet non-existing refugees?

You really should check your sources before posting because you really look stupid.

"I watched Obama say in a interview today that illegals living here were citizens and as such could vote."

You watched an edited version. You must be one of the most gullible people on earth.

"There is no dept that the demos won't sink to."

Thanks for proving why Trump loves the poorly educated. I'd ask your thoughts on the Senate races but multi-tasking is way over your head.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

I have read on a few message boards where people from other countries wish Trump was running

where they live.  The world is watching this election and I think most want a strong America.  They

see the same problems as many of us do. 

RL

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

   Bill Clinton Helps Exhausted and Stumbling Hillary into Car at Philly Airport 11/7/2016 

Yes it happened again today at her rally in Philly and if you google seizures,stumble  or epilepsy her name will pop up a lot of times. Psyko is beganning to feel sorry for this rich lady who will not release true health records to the public before applying   for a government job. Hopefully she will be able to apply for disability if she can't serve out her term.Certainly the public won't mind one more on assistance for Hillary.

     

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

Trump supporters will come out in herds tomorrow, add a multitude to the published calculations.  Clinton running

scared because they know the real story.  Even in the blue states.

RL

"Trump supporters will come out in herds tomorrow"

For your sake I hope the herd is more than the "record number" of votes he got in the primaries.

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Stack of crap

You can trust your sources, I will trust mine.  You problem is that you believe the liberal media is as honest as Abe.

Pull your head out of your ass and look around.  Don't bother posting a reply, I won't respond, heck I don't even

read 99.9% of your post.  However I bet you can't resist so fire your blanks.

RL

RL-RANDOMLOGIC

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Nov 7, 2016

   Bill Clinton Helps Exhausted and Stumbling Hillary into Car at Philly Airport 11/7/2016 

Yes it happened again today at her rally in Philly and if you google seizures,stumble  or epilepsy her name will pop up a lot of times. Psyko is beganning to feel sorry for this rich lady who will not release true health records to the public before applying   for a government job. Hopefully she will be able to apply for disability if she can't serve out her term.Certainly the public won't mind one more on assistance for Hillary.

     

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

I have read on a few message boards where people from other countries wish Trump was running

where they live.  The world is watching this election and I think most want a strong America.  They

see the same problems as many of us do. 

RL

"I have read on a few message boards where people from other countries wish Trump was running where they live."

I heard Kyrgyzstan is looking for a new leader and maybe the only country where Trump could win. He already named himself dictator of Michelles Cove.

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

Here's a link to the story

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/bill-clinton-helps-stumbling-hillary-car-philly-airport-video/

RL

Clinton hitman, says Hillary must be stopped. Chilling video. Check it out.

https://youtu.be/Xd-RX5g2RfY

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Nov 7, 2016

Stack of crap

You can trust your sources, I will trust mine.  You problem is that you believe the liberal media is as honest as Abe.

Pull your head out of your ass and look around.  Don't bother posting a reply, I won't respond, heck I don't even

read 99.9% of your post.  However I bet you can't resist so fire your blanks.

RL

"You can trust your sources, I will trust mine."

When did you ever cite a source?

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on Nov 7, 2016

   Bill Clinton Helps Exhausted and Stumbling Hillary into Car at Philly Airport 11/7/2016 

Yes it happened again today at her rally in Philly and if you google seizures,stumble  or epilepsy her name will pop up a lot of times. Psyko is beganning to feel sorry for this rich lady who will not release true health records to the public before applying   for a government job. Hopefully she will be able to apply for disability if she can't serve out her term.Certainly the public won't mind one more on assistance for Hillary.

     

She doesn't need disability, after milking the Secretary of State position in pay to play using the Clinton Foundation to launder it, and bleaching the evidence, while lying to the FBI and congress ( don't count us lil peeps-the deplorables) Evil must be exhausting.....

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Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 8, 2016

She doesn't need disability, after milking the Secretary of State position in pay to play using the Clinton Foundation to launder it, and bleaching the evidence, while lying to the FBI and congress ( don't count us lil peeps-the deplorables) Evil must be exhausting.....


Using her past government positions as history, including stealing furniture china and fixtures from the White House and SOS offices....who let's a thief and a liar into the White House AGAIN!!!???

Blows my mind she's even the Dems top candidate...please tell me it can't get any crazier!

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Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 8, 2016

Ain't that the truth, and has been proved over and over in this thread. 

Good one Jamora.

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Hillary's approach to the White House....

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Quote: Originally posted by JAMORA on Nov 8, 2016

She doesn't need disability, after milking the Secretary of State position in pay to play using the Clinton Foundation to launder it, and bleaching the evidence, while lying to the FBI and congress ( don't count us lil peeps-the deplorables) Evil must be exhausting.....

How much can she profit on gun running to terrorists and assassinating leaders of sovereign nations (and laughing about it) as prez? Worked out great as SOS, big bucks for the Clinton Foundation in exchange for arms deals.

If you vote for Hillary, you consent. Remember, she has a private position vs a public one....GOOD LUCK AMERICA!!!!

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One last chance to make America great again...you know Hillary can't do it..Whether you like Trump or hate him you

needed to listen to his words...no lifetime politician mumbo jumbo...no DEM lies...no DEM lining of pockets that aren't

your pockets...Truth about America and what's happened to it is Trump.

I don't care what the guy said in the past BUT YOU ALL SHOULD CARE ABOUT WHAT HILLARY DID IN THE PAST..

welcome to the AMERICAN HAITI if Hillary is elected...tossed under the bus and lied to and ignored for who can give

her the most...

Don't even let her crack the door...slam it in her face....you people need to take back America....YOUR VOTE DOES MEAN

SOMETHING....and it especially means something if you vote TRUMP..

Sylvester Stallone ad...Don't point fingers....

 

https://youtu.be/yDMgzbfT6lI 

 

Don't point fingers, do something today...make the change...start the ball rolling in the right direction. 

Do not be a coward.

Put Hillary in there and the only fingers you can point are the ones you are pointing at yourself.

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13,000 estimated at Hershey PA Trump rally...and he's ALWAYS drawn HUGE crowds...

This was reported by a small new station where news is as it should be..they touched on Hillary's visit to PA

also. Fair and balanced.

CNN is busy reporting Trump put down hip hop...again trying to make him racist. Any respectable person would also

put down some hip hop - the language used the subject of the language ranging from cop killers to rapists to treating

women like a piece of meat to be used however you want, this, that...that's not racist to reject the message.

The message is foul. Curse CNN for saying it is racism...today you can't have an opinion...blame the DEMs for that.

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SUBMIT IT..MAKE SURE IT SHOWS WHO

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I have just cast my vote for the next President, Donald J. Trump!!  And proud of it!  #womenfortrump

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Happy Voting Day Gotta Vote Patriot

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Quote: Originally posted by Saylorgirl on Nov 8, 2016

I have just cast my vote for the next President, Donald J. Trump!!  And proud of it!  #womenfortrump

I voted early last week and did the same thing...voted for Trump!

Had my vote early sticker on and stopped at a grocery store on the way home and at least 3 people asked me where I voted and we got to talking and all of them were going to vote for Trump too!

I sure hope & pray he wins!

Did you see on the news where Hillary cancelled her fireworks display she had hired to use after she wins!

I wonder why she did that!...maybe she's getting cold feet!

Vergie6

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Nov 8, 2016

VERIFY YOUR SELECTION BEFORE YOU
SUBMIT IT..MAKE SURE IT SHOWS WHO

YOU CHOSE TO VOTE FOR.  US Flag   US Flag

I did that...a man who was one of the ones who is watching the voting to see if everything is on the up & up told me to be sure to do that!

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