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If you knew back when what you know today could you have won?

indubitably

[ 7 ]

[ 28.0% ]

Maybe

[ 5 ]

[ 20.0% ]

Couldbe

[ 0 ]

[ 0.0% ]

Chances Were Better

[ 6 ]

[ 24.0% ]

Almost As Hard

[ 3 ]

[ 12.0% ]

[ 4 ]

[ 16.0% ]

Total valid votes

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Discarded votes

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BobP

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Oct 16, 2022, 5:23 pm

Here's the setup. We all know the further back we go the easier the lottery was to win. Odds were lower. There were even games like the Florida 5/26 where one could have won over and over again just by playing all the previous winning combinations. Some games were evenly devisable like the New Jersey 6/48 saving many wheeling dollars when putting all the numbers into play. And there were some two for a dollar games compared to two dollar games today. So the question is, knowing what we know today, with the software or system we have today, were our chances much better if we could use today's knowledge back when?

BobP

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garyo1954

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Oct 16, 2022, 5:57 pm

Quote: Originally posted by BobP on Oct 16, 2022
Here's the setup. We all know the further back we go the easier the lottery was to win. Odds were lower. There were even games like the Florida 5/26 where one could have won over and over again just by playing all the previous winning combinations. Some games were evenly devisable like the New Jersey 6/48 saving many wheeling dollars when putting all the numbers into play. And there were some two for a dollar games compared to two dollar games today. So the question is, knowing what we know today, with the software or system we have today, were our chances much better if we could use today's knowledge back when?

BobP

Cat versus Halloween Has the Strangest Friend
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Chances were much better in years past, Bob.
I say that's the reason we see the games changing more, and more quickly, and the addition of bonus balls.

The closer we get to catching up, the farther out of reach the games management puts them to stay one step ahead.
I don't have any information, but it wouldn't be a surprise to learn the lottery management companies keep tabs on how many winning tickets are sold, and once that number approaches their percentage of "allowable winners" (say the point they begin to see diminishing profits), they start work on a new matrix, game, or what have you.

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Stat$talker

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Oct 16, 2022, 7:39 pm

Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Oct 16, 2022
Chances were much better in years past, Bob.
I say that's the reason we see the games changing more, and more quickly, and the addition of bonus balls.

The closer we get to catching up, the farther out of reach the games management puts them to stay one step ahead.
I don't have any information, but it wouldn't be a surprise to learn the lottery management companies keep tabs on how many winning tickets are sold, and once that number approaches their percentage of "allowable winners" (say the point they begin to see diminishing profits), they start work on a new matrix, game, or what have you.

G

"The closer we get to catching up, the farther out of reach the games management puts them to stay one step ahead."

Like, requiring an hr before the drawingz to have numberz submitted by, so they can PLAN biaszed Giveawayz (like the recent MM in Ft Myers)... to increasin the total numba pool... and we must neevah 4git their Ole.."We need the xtra dollar price increase to support the New $40 Millon starting Jackpotz" scam .. Haaaa

-Stat$talker
GiveFive

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Oct 17, 2022, 8:13 am

I'm the 'NO' voter.

I voted NO because I really didn't know nuthin then and that's still the case. G5

Play Smart!
Cmoore50

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Oct 17, 2022, 8:34 am

I'm the other NO voter. If it wasn't for excel, I'd give up this chase. Excel back then wasn't as good. Back before the internet, you had to learn excel or a programming language on your own. That seems hard. Odds are worse now, but ways to collect and decipher data is much better. You just need to think outside the box. One more thing, I didn't know Jack back then. I just started playing the lottery three years ago. 😬

GET IT DONE
Stat$talker

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Oct 17, 2022, 12:05 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Cmoore50 on Oct 17, 2022
I'm the other NO voter. If it wasn't for excel, I'd give up this chase. Excel back then wasn't as good. Back before the internet, you had to learn excel or a programming language on your own. That seems hard. Odds are worse now, but ways to collect and decipher data is much better. You just need to think outside the box. One more thing, I didn't know Jack back then. I just started playing the lottery three years ago. 😬

"You just need to think outside the box"

Huuum..wonder wheaa I've heard dat b4?
rcbbuckeye

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Oct 17, 2022, 5:38 pm

The most Ive won was about $800 playing Ohio Lotto around the mid 1980s.

Got 5/6 on a QP. If I remember a player got 2 lines for a buck.

Odds were WAY better back then, and even getting 2 lines it was still hard to win the jackpot, which was $250,000.

CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)
BobP

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Oct 18, 2022, 10:54 am

Quote: Originally posted by Cmoore50 on Oct 17, 2022
I'm the other NO voter. If it wasn't for excel, I'd give up this chase. Excel back then wasn't as good. Back before the internet, you had to learn excel or a programming language on your own. That seems hard. Odds are worse now, but ways to collect and decipher data is much better. You just need to think outside the box. One more thing, I didn't know Jack back then. I just started playing the lottery three years ago. 😬

What I was trying for, was if you thought you could have won back then with what you know today, including using today's systems and software back then, so how do you think you'd have done back then with today's excel tools?

BobP

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AllenB

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Oct 18, 2022, 11:59 am

Quote: Originally posted by BobP on Oct 18, 2022
What I was trying for, was if you thought you could have won back then with what you know today, including using today's systems and software back then, so how do you think you'd have done back then with today's excel tools?

BobP

https://www.funnyfailsvideos.com/cat-versus-halloween-the-dodo/

Excel improvements from 97 include a few more Formulas, Queries and Conditional Formatting.

Formulas that begin with IF have been expanded, but the improvements have not enticed me to use them. Tho Old IFs still do the job.

Queries Have improved, but the original queries are still all I need today.

Conditional Formatting is a Digital Drug. Addiction leads to hours of secondary formulas that can change a Cells shape and color.

Excel becomes a kaleidescope. Not like the one you had or may still have. It is a recording of the daily twist. You can even run a macro and watch it's light flicker. Excel is a Movie Camera with a microscope. You can look deep into the numbers and add a formula (another column) and change the color settings whenever you want to create another particle to color and watch. This is the lighting for a Rabbit Hole, or perhaps the lenses in you X-Ray Glasses. I'll be honest with you, sometimes it feel like rearranging the Deck Chairs and painting them different colors. Conditional formatting that produces sound could put an orchestra in the chairs but I have not gone there. You can visualize where this ship is heading. Especially when the captain is wearing his X=Ray Specs.

So the Question is would I have Won anything back then with the new Glasses. I might like to think so but I will never know. Me and the Crickets have been working on the kaleidescope. Breaking down the Series of numbers into Particles, Grouping the Particles from 2 to 10 and painting them with CF

Here is another thing. The kaleidescope has not made me good at guessing what it will look like next. It's just like the movies.

I Like to Watch Eve, "Chauncey Gardner" Being There.

Gona Play some day. Until then I definitely wont hit the Big One.

But, I got these really cool Glasses
garyo1954

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Oct 18, 2022, 4:30 pm

Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Oct 18, 2022
Excel improvements from 97 include a few more Formulas, Queries and Conditional Formatting.

Formulas that begin with IF have been expanded, but the improvements have not enticed me to use them. Tho Old IFs still do the job.

Queries Have improved, but the original queries are still all I need today.

Conditional Formatting is a Digital Drug. Addiction leads to hours of secondary formulas that can change a Cells shape and color.

Excel becomes a kaleidescope. Not like the one you had or may still have. It is a recording of the daily twist. You can even run a macro and watch it's light flicker. Excel is a Movie Camera with a microscope. You can look deep into the numbers and add a formula (another column) and change the color settings whenever you want to create another particle to color and watch. This is the lighting for a Rabbit Hole, or perhaps the lenses in you X-Ray Glasses. I'll be honest with you, sometimes it feel like rearranging the Deck Chairs and painting them different colors. Conditional formatting that produces sound could put an orchestra in the chairs but I have not gone there. You can visualize where this ship is heading. Especially when the captain is wearing his X=Ray Specs.

So the Question is would I have Won anything back then with the new Glasses. I might like to think so but I will never know. Me and the Crickets have been working on the kaleidescope. Breaking down the Series of numbers into Particles, Grouping the Particles from 2 to 10 and painting them with CF

Here is another thing. The kaleidescope has not made me good at guessing what it will look like next. It's just like the movies.

I Like to Watch Eve, "Chauncey Gardner" Being There.

Gona Play some day. Until then I definitely wont hit the Big One.

But, I got these really cool Glasses

You make me want to open Excel to see what new toys I'm missing.
With the 2010 version it was always a challenge to decide on the color scheme for conditional formatting.

Likely I wouldn't get anything done but I'd have a blast!

G

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Stack47

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Oct 18, 2022, 8:17 pm

Really depends on which lottery games we play. Pick 3 and pick 4 games haven't changed much since the day they started. Most of the 5/39 games payoffs are exactly the same as the day they started too. We could buy two lotto tickets for buck but many of the payoffs were under $1 million. There were 50 cent scratch-offs too.

I used lottery software in the 90s and though not as user friendly and as thorough as the LP analytical systems, it did many of the sames things. If there are any new and better playing and betting strategies, I must have missed them.

"When will we ever learn?"
Cmoore50

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Oct 18, 2022, 10:14 pm

Quote: Originally posted by BobP on Oct 18, 2022
What I was trying for, was if you thought you could have won back then with what you know today, including using today's systems and software back then, so how do you think you'd have done back then with today's excel tools?

BobP

https://www.funnyfailsvideos.com/cat-versus-halloween-the-dodo/

Oh, ok...I would've won a jackpot for sure. No doubt about it. There are several formulas in excel that weren't around back then. Countifs (not countif), hlookup, vlookup. What about Vstack. I'm not an expert in excel like some. But the formulas are shorter and easier to create. With youtube at your fingertips. You can practically look up anything and you'll find the answer.

GET IT DONE
Stack47

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Oct 18, 2022, 11:40 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Cmoore50 on Oct 18, 2022
Oh, ok...I would've won a jackpot for sure. No doubt about it. There are several formulas in excel that weren't around back then. Countifs (not countif), hlookup, vlookup. What about Vstack. I'm not an expert in excel like some. But the formulas are shorter and easier to create. With youtube at your fingertips. You can practically look up anything and you'll find the answer.

Ohio's Rolling Cash 5 hasn't changed since it started 18 years ago and Classic Lotto is the same 6/49 game that played long before that. If you could win a jackpot "for sure" back in the day, why not now?

Just wondering?

"When will we ever learn?"
Cmoore50

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Oct 19, 2022, 12:43 am

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 18, 2022
Ohio's Rolling Cash 5 hasn't changed since it started 18 years ago and Classic Lotto is the same 6/49 game that played long before that. If you could win a jackpot "for sure" back in the day, why not now?

Just wondering?

Jackpot is coming my way. Data is leading me down the right path. Only been at for about 2+ years..

GET IT DONE
lottologix

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Oct 21, 2022, 4:02 pm

Q1In never really won anything in the lottery except getting the PB or mm number for a dollar one or twice every few years until I found the lotto logix web site which led me to lottery post. Did not know anything about the lottery until I saw a guy who seemed to win all the time and got me into doing some research on the web as I would ask the guy how he won so much and what he claimed to do was not much better than guessing.

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