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• CASH Only

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  Washington state QUINTO began in 1990. It's played like other pick-5 games with one major exception: players choose five CARDS from the 52-card standard playing deck instead of numbers from 1-through-X (quick picks of course available.) One play for $1; first prize is an ALL-CASH jackpot. Similar games have been failures; New Jersey 5-Card Lotto actually preceded QUINTO; the Hoosier Lottery started such a game a couple years ago. Pennsylvania had a 5/26 Hearts & Diamonds that was QUICK-PICK only.
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  Cash,

  What I would like to see is a pick 5 game similiar to the pick four game only with the pick five game played with the digits from         0 thru 9.
  With this game you will hit exact order and box order with the payout being ten times greater than the pick four.
  I will take $50,000.00 cash on an exact hit anyday. The box payouts would not be that paltry either.
  I had considered posting this suggestion on the S.C. message board to see what they would say.
  These fantasy five and pick five games have a lousy lower tier prize and I would think players would play this game more than the other five games.

  John
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  John: I was thinking of pick-5 LOTTO games. (Then again, there are/have been pick-4 games with a lotto-type format.) Traditional pick-4 games are less popular than pick-3s; besides, pick-5 straight wins, if they ever were to happen, would automatically have federal, etc withholding.
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  Cash,

  I just voted in your poll. I would like mention another position about Quinto. I would like show some reasoning pro-Quinto here.

  From the probability standpoint whatever is printed on the 52 balls does obviously not matter. Whether they are cards, girls names, boys names, famous Fifties Rockabilly Stars, Car Brands, Numbers or whatever does not have any impact on the outcome.

  We know though the general problem with numbers. One of the first Numbers Lottery games still used in many countries (6/49) showed a major flaw that was negative for the general playing public. It is known that many people picked (before Quick picks of course) birthdays/months as their lucky numbers, probably many people do that now also. The result of that is that numbers of below 32 were more frequently picked then numbers in the upper range of (32 and higher). It is less likely that a lottery player has a favorite Card than a birthday or better everyone has a birthday between 1 and 31 and a birth month between 1 and 12 but everyone receives many birthday cards from a deck of 52.

  I would surely prefer if lotteries would get away from boring numbers and would go for more fun selections.

  Good Luck!
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  everett,

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  Todd,

  Thank you for your response.

  "Scratch-offs" cannot be predicted, Todd, at least I would not try it. A once a day or twice a day game where many people bet on the same outcome is certainly different.  "Scratch-offs" like Bar pull-tabs really, to me are a cheap copy of Slot machines without going to a casino. A completely different ball game.

  It is certainly fun to predict lottery games without numbers, The Daily Derby in CA is another one of those. There they are horse names (kind of mix they have numbers too!) funny enough combines with a PICK 3 game disguised as a race time.

  In a way it is almost sad that QUNITO is used balls to pick the cards rather than a shuffling machine of some sort to make a bit more different.

   
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  Everett: When lottery players visit different states/provinces, they expect the games to be similar to those of where they live. People EXPECT lotto games to have NUMBERS only. There have been a handful of lotto games where the winning combinations were playing cards instead of numbers, and, AFAIK all have flopped, with the exception of QUINTO. You mentioned CA "Daily Derby", which is a unique game, but IMHO it is a more thought-out game than QUINTO. Of course, CA is a big horse-racing state. *Perhaps* a pick-4 game should be played in CA instead of, or alongside, "Daily Derby". However, if I were the new WA state lottery director, I would move to have QUINTO (and "Lucky for Life") changed or replaced ASAP.
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  Everett: "And the winning president is...George Bush!   Pardon me, that's George DOUBLE-U Bush!!"
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  Oops, I guess its 1/43. I guess I have to talk to you in numbers rather than names: I always likes the number 19 better than the number 43.

   
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  Everett: You're right; George W Bush is #43. That means Grover Cleveland gets TWO balls :-) Sorry, Ms Lewinsky, Bill Clinton has only one ball for this game...
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  I'd play the "All American
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  Everett: Then, there probably would be a BREAK-IN at the GATE outside lottery headquarters; someone squirts WATER into the Richard Nixon ball...
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  I'm just filling out play slips for Quinto's sat. nite draw.

  $1.9 million cashpot, odds : 1 to 2.6 million. If the state lotto

  commission were to change Quinto's format, I feel they would also change the structure of the game. Just like lotteries everywhere that have undergone changes, the lottery commission would most likely make the game harder to win.

   If person were to change the 5/52 game, based on a deck of playing cards, to #'s, Numbers 1-52, you could enter them in your software program,  then you have a # game. Obviously some busy work involved to do so.

  Washington state 6/49 game, two plays for $1, odds : 1 to 7 million, went the way of a Powerball, Mega Millions format. I don't play the new game, can't even remember what the name is. I remember checking out the odds : 1 to 30 million, if I remember correctly.

   I also like Quinto' s twice weekly draw schedule, one can keep track of the winning #'s quite easily, as compared to daily pick5 games. And there's a minimum reset, of the cashpot after a Jpot win, to 300k. Which increases by 100k until the cashpot is won. 

  Also, I've read, but don't actually know that even # games, requires less combinations to play, if you like to play alot of #'s.

  It would have been nice, if Quinto were a # game originally 1-52, the last thing I want, given the lotto game choices we currently have in Wash. Is the lotto commission to start tinkering with Quinto.

  I voted no, in the poll.
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  Cotti: Quinto has the LONGEST odds of any pick-5 game. If Quinto were to be replaced with an all-number game, the number pool almost certainly would be 39 or less. A new pick-5 most likely would give winners a better return for matching 3 or 4 numbers.
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  If the Quinto game was changed to a 5/39 game, the odds of winning the jackpot would be 1:575,757 and no State would be dumb enough to offer even a $1/2M jackpot with those odds.  If you are e-mailing state lottery commissions with those kinds of ideas, don't expect any replies. 

  
  
  
  
  

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