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• savealot

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   Hi Bill here, From Michigan and I have just joined as a new member, And would like to know what system do you think works the best for 3 digit and 4 digit ?  oh yes it would really help if you use it in Michigan.  Thanks...
• Lottowiz34

  

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  Well that would depend on how much money your willing too spend and whether your looking for a paper\pencil
  
  
  
  strategy or lottery software.
• Thomas Covenant

  

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  Quick pick

  
  Okay, now I believe you can predict lottery numbers
• Lottowiz34

  

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  If your lazy or don't have any skill at picking numbers then Quick-Picks would be a good choice.
• Thomas Covenant

  

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  How can one be skillful at picking random numbers? You have yet to prove your skill lottowiz.

  
  Okay, now I believe you can predict lottery numbers
• Lottowiz34

  

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  Mr.Covenant we have gone down this road before and as long as your mind is stuck in the Middle Ages where anything that is not possible in your eyes is "Blaspemy" there's no reason for me too discuss this with you.Furthermore you don't pay me when I hit the numbers the State Lottery does so I have nothing too prove to you.Talking too you is like trying too convince Castro Communism is dead and a Democratic Government is possible,you won't accept the fact that it's possible too achieve an advantage over the odds,even if the proof bit you in the A**.I won money from selecting my own numbers using systems and software many times,in fact I Hit the Pick-3 two days ago using MaxHitPro by selecting 6 numbers
  
  
  
  and generating 20 combinations.A member of my Lottery Group won $1600 in 3 days using an Excel program from Everett-EBusiness of The Lottery Connection website.
  
  
  
  So what kind of proof do you want? Posting numbers on this site? "FORGET IT" I'm not sharing my numbers with you or anybody else you continue playing your quick-picks and I'll keep "WINNING" using my dumb SYSTEMS and
  
  
  
  SOFTWARE.
• Lottowiz34

  

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  ("Blasphemy")sorry for the mispelling.And one final comment for you Mr.Convenant why do I have too prove myself if your never gonna believe otherwise?Your Brainwashed into thinking nothing works except buying quick-picks,I never won anything using quick-picks but ever since I started picking my own numbers I've done quite well for myself.Are you trying too convince me that what I'm doing doesn't work? if so that is stupid
  
  
  
  that's like me telling you too use a shoe to put a nail in the wall when a hammer does a better job.I use what
  
  
  
  works best for me and in this case it's systems & software as opposed to quick-picks.I really don't understand what your trying to PROVE here because none of it makes sense too me.If I'm winning using these methods more than once then obviously I'm doing something right.Quick-Picks win once every Blue Moon depending on the player because Luck is definitely involved when buying quick-picks,but I win more often than that using skill.
• AnnuityIsGreat

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  savelot,

  
  
  
  
  

  my advice: 

  
  
  
  
  

  1)  buy three (or four) sets of 10 ping pong balls = price:  $5.00

  
  
  
  
  

  2)  buy a black magic marker = price:  $1.00

  
  
  
  
  

  3)  steal three (or four) 5 gallon empty water bottles from your neighbors = price:  $0

  
  
  
  
  

  4)  mark each set of ping pong balls with # 0 - 9

  
  
  
  
  

  5)  place each set of balls in each set of the empty water bottles

  
  
  
  
  

  6)  shake each water bottle and draw one ball

  
  
  
  
  

  7)  repeat # 6 for the remaining 2 or 3 bottles

  
  
  
  
  

  8)  use the #s that come out as your pick

  
  
  
  
  

   

  
  
  
  
  

  The system above is the cheapest and is just as goods as the ones sold anywhere in the internet.

  Don't blow all your winnings in one place - Choose Annuity
• Thomas Covenant

  

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  So how does these programs work? People forget that the numbers come from balls bouncing around in a container. Does your program calculate the trajectories of all the balls? Does it calculate air pressure, temperture, humidity, speed, direction of rotation? Does it take into account the different sets of balls that are used? Does it take into account the different containers that are used. How long does it take to establish a pattern? 1 draw, 5 draws, 100 draws? What happens if they switch balls?
  
  
  
  

  
  Okay, now I believe you can predict lottery numbers
• Lottowiz34

  

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  Mr.Covenant were you born a stubborn person? first of all the fact that the numbers come from a machine that bounces the balls around and calculating there trajectories,humidity,temperature,air pressure,distance or different ball sets and containers
  
  or whether they switch balls has nothing too do with using Lottery Software or Systems.None of this information is used or programmed into the software and seeing as how you have no EXPERIENCE what so ever in using these tools you wouldn't understand the concepts involved.Now too answer your question about draw histories used it depends on your analysis and the game your playing.In the Pick-3/4 games short term trends you would use 7-14 draws long term trends you would use 20-40 draws.I've never used any of the information you mentioned in deciding what numbers too wheel when using systems or software.None of that stuff matters the only thing that is used is Statistical Probability of the Numbers.All of the numbers can't be drawn at the same time otherwise it would be called a pick-36 game instead of a pick-5 game.So if only 5 numbers are drawn from 36 than you just select a group of numbers that are most likely too be drawn.An ideal amount would be
  
  anywhere from 10-16 in a Pick 5 game,this increases your chances of trapping the winning numbers.Then you Wheel your numbers and apply filters too reduce the combo's to a reasonable playing level.It's that simple
  
  and once you become SKILLED at selecting numbers you increase your consistancy at hitting 3,4 or 5 numbers.
  
  Now I will agree with you that the chance of just picking the EXACT 5 numbers that will be drawn is nearly IMPOSSIBLE no matter what you use,your better off
  
  using quick-picks and hoping that Lady Luck is on your side.But if you use a strategy that involves selecting MORE than just 5 numbers then you stand a better chance of winning something.
• Thomas Covenant

  

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  I just need a simple answer to this one. Do you understand Cause and Effect? The effect would be the number sets of the drawings forming patterns and trends. This effect must have a Cause. So, what causes this Effect?

  
  Okay, now I believe you can predict lottery numbers
• Lottowiz34

  

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  Well that's quite simple really,you see Thomas when random numbers repeat themselves draw after draw for a
  
  long period of time they start forming biases and noticeable patterns.For example let's say FL just started a Lottery game and the first draw was this weekend I wouldn't be able too use any of my systems or software.Now patterns would start too develop after 52 draws then I would start too see numbers repeating,skipping 2 draws and hitting again a number that hasn't been drawn in 2 or 3 weeks (3) numbers drawn in the previous draw re-appear 1 or 2 draws later.
  
  I could go on and on with the many different patterns trends and biases that would occurr.Now the fact that the Florida lottery has been around since 1988 which gives us 15 yrs of numbers being drawn over and over again you will have a MULTITUDE of patterns that exist.
  
  Simply because the numbers have been recycled so much since the very first drawing in 1988.In the first week of a new Lottery game you won't notice any of this stuff
  
  but after enough drawings the numbers start repeating among other things.I mean if the Lottery is so Random then how come when numbers are drawn instead of an entirely new set of numbers coming up in the next draw
  
  (because remember every number has the same chance of hitting so technically they should all take turns being drawn)you very often will get 1 or 2 numbers repeating from the last draw or a number that hit 2 draws ago hitting that day.When I first started learning about number selection I use too think that since the numbers are random that a new set should come up for example
  
  let's say the numbers 01,02,15,23,45,53 hit last week
  
  I should be able too eliminate these 6 from my selections plus assume that 3,16,22 or 24,46 or 52 would be next in line too hit because these numbers come after or before the numbers that were drawn.Well what would happen is this 1 and 23 would repeat and the numbers 50,42,17 or 5 would come up throwing me for a loop as too what just happened especially if 50 and 42 just hit 2 draws ago and 1 and 23 repeated from the last draw.How or why did that happen? plus I use too assume that numbers that haven't been drawn in 3 or 4 months would be good candidates but the numbers that were drawn actually came from the past 2 or 3 wks which is a short time therefore I realised sometimes you only needed the past 2 to 4 wks of drawn numbers too actually look for your numbers too wheel.That's what is called Short Term Analysis,Long Term Analysis requires
  
  6-8 wks these are just examples I'm giving you too understand what I'm talking about because every state lottery game might have differences in history needed.
  
  Now I know what your thinking with all these possible patterns how can you decide which ones too use? Well that's where practice,skill,systems and software come into play.Also you don't try and figure out which patterns are going too appear if too many are showing up at once they appear at different times or in spurts and sometimes in small numbers sometimes large.So as long as you know what they are you can follow them and after much practice you will see when they are about too come up and choose accordingly.The pick-3/4 games are the easiest too see these variables that's how I hit the Pick-3 on 4/20.And all this talk about challenging my methods or whatever can't be done because you don't go chasing these patterns on a daily basis.I play 2 days in a row then I will skip 2 or 3 days because that way you get a clearer picture of what's going on or what's going too happen.I use too play daily and would lose because too many patterns would appear at the same time but I noticed that after a couple days I would see things much better and could decide which ones will hit and which ones won't.
  
  
• Thomas Covenant

  

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  You didn't answer my question. You described the effect. What is the cause?

  
  Okay, now I believe you can predict lottery numbers
• Sedertree

  

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  Guys,

  I'd like to throw my two cents in here.

  IMO there are two kinds of Bias, Natural and Mechanical.

  Natural Bias is present in any random dvent.  The laws that govern this type of bias have to do with the tendency of dvents to take on the bell-shaped or Gaussian Curve over time.

  Mechanical Bias has to do, of course, with the mechanical dynamics of the machines, ball weight, air pressure, size of the bin, order of the balls as they drop etc.

  It is very easy to determine which bias is effecting the draw.  Computer Generated Numbers, eg; California, have no mechanical parts that can affect the outcome.  Therefore those winning numbers obey the laws of Natural Bias.  Now machines on the other hand can be unpredictable sometimes.  For they follow BOTH Natural and Mechanical Bias to varying degrees from state-to-state.

  I would estimate that the average mean distribution across the board is probably about 5% Mechanical Bias and 95% Natural.  Lottery officials make it a point to assure that Mechanical Bias is kept to a minimum.  What they can't avoid is the Laws of Natural Bias.

  (Here it comes.)

  My system uses a reverse logic based on a drawfile.  From one number to the next, by position.  Rather than predicting what the next digit in that position will be.  We calculate what the next digit in that postion will not be.

  From any given draw to the next in the 3-Digit for example.

  The odds of that same digit falling in that postion is 1:10.  The odds of a different digit falling in that position is 9:10.  This is effective until we reach the 50/50 Threshold, 5:10.  If a digit/number repeates before that threshold, It is due to bias.  Most of the time it is due to Natural Bias.  Only by looking at the big picture can we verify for certain whether it was natural or mechanical, ie; the digits that preceeded the beginning cutoff.

  I believe in computer systems, mine especially, because you can eliminate human error in the selection process.  You can rely on the algorithms/code to make the correct calculations based on sound mathematical principles.

  I do not believe that winning numbers come to us by blind luck, astrology, faith, tea leaves, etc. etc. etc.  If they do provide a win is is by pure chance.  Not an understanding of the forces that create random numbers.

  ....../George
• Thomas Covenant

  

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  >The odds of that same digit falling in that postion is 1:10. The odds of a different digit falling in that position is 9:10. This is effective until we reach the 50/50 Threshold, 5:10. If a digit/number repeates before that threshold, It is due to bias. Most of the time it is due to Natural Bias. Only by looking at the big picture can we verify for certain whether it was natural or mechanical, ie; the digits that preceeded the beginning cutoff.>
  
  
  
  I didn't quite understand that, could you expand on that a   little?

  
  Okay, now I believe you can predict lottery numbers