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• Greg

  

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  I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who plays New York's Pick 10-- you pick 10 numbers from 1 - 80. 20 numbers are selected and you receive a cash prize if you match 0 numbers, or anywhere from 6-10 numbers.
  
  
  
  Anybody out there play it regularly? How have you done? Has anybody out there used any software to analyze this daily game?
  
  
  
  I'd like to see PA pick up this game.
  
  
  
  Thanks,
  
  Greg
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  Greg:

  Very few play Pick 10 (Quick Draw makes it redundant).

  I wouldn't mind a 6-number version of the old "Super-7" game replace the "Super-6"- perhaps you pick 6 of 80 numbers, and the PA Lottery draws 9; for the jackpot, your 6 numbers would match 6 of the 9 numbers drawn.

  "Super-7" was annuity-only; a new version would need a cash option (preferably where you choose after yow win).
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  CASH,

  While Super 7 was a cool idea, I doubt a remade 6 of 9 of 80 would play well in PA at this point.

  I think it is likely that when PA gets rid of Super 6, that Greg's idea of a Keno style game (either drawn daily or drawn every 4-5 minutes), would be one of the options Gov. Rendell would have his lottery director consider.

  Although I'd play Hot Lotto, I just don't think the jackpot size would entice PA players to play (even though the odds and second tier prizes are good). And WINFALL seems to have lost it's punch.

  My guess is PA goes with Keno or cooks up some other game.
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  smd:

  A state (OK commonwealth) with the population of PA easily supports two jackpot games. KENO would be a good idea for PA _after_ they replace Super-6.

  The only jackpot winner in Michigan Winfall so far chose annuity (AFTER claiming). That certainly hurt promoting the new Michigan game.

  Hot Lotto easily could add a few balls on the top (5/45 + 1/19?) if PA joins (without changing the lower prizes).
• dolllie

  

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  Pick 10 is a very difficult game to win.  You usally end up with more than 0 and not as many as 6.  Do not use software for this game. Just look at the past draws.  Pick about 5, half, of the numbers that were already drawn in the past 5 draws & add 5 numbers of your own.

  You should have some luck doing this!

  Dollie
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  Pick 10 pays out MUCH BETTER than Lotto; also, unlike Lotto/MM you don't have to worry about receiving annuity payments.
• Greg

  

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  Thanks for your replies.
  
  
  
  I am not in favor of increasing Hot Lotto's number field or that of any other game because it increases the odds and hurts players.
  
  
  
  However, I would prefer PA to do the Pick 10 (Keno)that NY has.
  
  
  
  Why? One, it is held daily.
  
  
  
  Two, the prize structure is really good. You get $4. if you had NONE of the numbers and $500,000. if you had all 10. Remember, TWENTY numbers are selected out of which you need only have 0 or 6-10 numbers to match for a prize.
  
  
  
  Three, I think it would attract a ton of players because of the casino-like feel to it.
  
  
  
  Four, the numbers selected that I have been studying show repeating patterns that a player could hook onto to better his/her chances.
  
  
  
  I came across Pick 10 when I saw a show in NYC last Sunday (I live in PA) and was intrigued by it when I investigated NY's lottery games.
  
  
  
  Maybe I'll email PA's lottery director and suggest it. Check it out at www.nylottery.ORG.
• CASH Only

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  Greg:

  IMO Pick-10 is a "better" game than Super-6. However, the MOST APPROPRIATE replacement for Super-6 is another JACKPOT game, though on a smaller scale than Super-6.

  As for lengthening the jackpot odds, it hasn't hurt Powerball (although it probably has made MM a less popular game). If MUSL is to get PA to join "Hot Lotto" (which of course I still would like to see), MUSL most likely would "need" to make the game have more jackpot potential, due to PA's large population.
• RJOh

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by dolllie on May 24, 2003
  

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   Do not use software for this game. Just look at the past draws. 

  
  

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  Hello dollie,

  How do you store the history of the draws?  Just write them down on a piece of paper.  It seem to me, you could use some software just to store the data and print you out a list to look at.

  RJOh 
  
• Greg

  

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  I'd be interested in hearing from anyone in New York or nearby that plays the Pick 10.  Send me a private message and I'll give you my email address.  Thanks. 
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  Greg:

  Personally, I don't spend much on NY tickets these days because the NY Lottery is too bureaucratic. However, if you're in NY and want to play on-line games, I would recommend Pick-10 (even though almost nobody plays it), Quick Draw (if the proprietor hasn't shut off the lottery machine in protest of the near-total NY state smoking ban) and Take Five.
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  To Greg,

  I was checking my copy of Lotto Pro and its has this game included in its data base, so the same tools that are used to analize all the other games are available for this game too.  Its have over 2000 records in the file and I haven't updated all the state lotteries in a while, with my moden, it takes about seven minutes to download all the U.S. lotteries, so I just download the ones that I use.  If you have that program then you know this, if you don't you can download it with all the updated U.S. lotteries and try it for 15 days free.

  RJOh 
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  Thanks, RJ, for the info!
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  There's been a second round of NY "Quick Draw" restaurant/bar owners shutting down their machines to get the state to loosen its new anti-smoking laws.
• Greg

  

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  Lottoscorp,
  
  
  
  I have no trouble selecting 20 numbers. It's putting them into two groups of 10 that's difficult. But I've been steadily studying and analyzing the NY Keno game and learned some real interesting things about it.
  
  
  
  The only way I can play is to have my friend who works in NYC get the ticket and play for me (since I live in PA). But I'm not gonna do that until I start "winning" on my own (=play for free). The problem is that it's difficult to put a LOT of time into it playing daily bec. I work 2 jobs. Of course, if I win a jackpot soon that won't be an issue :-) I'll have my 15 minutes of fame and then everyone will forget about me. I must say that playing for free has been fun.