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In Any Lotto Program, What Should Be Minimum Number Of Draws Stored For BEST Analysis?!

ALL Draws Right From The First Draw!

[ 5 ]

[ 11.6% ]

(The Biggest Number Of Your Lotto) x10

[ 1 ]

[ 2.3% ]

Last 666 Draws Minimum

[ 1 ]

[ 2.3% ]

Last 500 Draws Minimum

[ 1 ]

[ 2.3% ]

Last 100 Draws Minimum

[ 5 ]

[ 11.6% ]

Last FIFTY Draws Minimum

[ 8 ]

[ 18.6% ]

Last TEN Draws Sufficient

[ 13 ]

[ 30.2% ]

Last SEVEN Draws Sufficient

[ 4 ]

[ 9.3% ]

ODDS Remin Same Irrespective Of Past Draws Chosen

[ 2 ]

[ 4.7% ]

More Draws = Better Odds

[ 3 ]

[ 7.0% ]

Total valid votes

[ 43 ]

Discarded votes

[ 22 ]

DreamLotto

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Oct 11, 2003, 6:09 am

Hi Lotto Veterans Out Here,
With Many Of You Using Some Or The Other Lotto Program For Fishing Out Best Numbers, I Feel Answering This Poll Would Be Enjoyable Experience...
GreenBacks To You!
DreamLotto
hypersoniq

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Oct 11, 2003, 5:24 pm

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on October 11, 2003

its good to be able to reference back at least 2.7 years

Why? What's the significance of 2.7 years?

Have an EXCELlent day!
JADELottery

Native American Eagle Sun

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Oct 12, 2003, 10:11 pm

I had to discard my vote. The selections you provided have some valid values. However, there are two ways that I approach how many draws I'd use as a statistical set. The typical number of draw that is statistically sound is 1500. 1500 is O.K., but I dont have that long to wait. If Id waited for 1500 draws in Powerball at the start of the new format, I would be waiting for a long time; about 14.3 years. So, I wait till the draws get to a point where most of the numbers in the pool of numbers has been selected at least 3 times or more for the majority of the numbers in the pool. Or, I wait till the average frequency of the pool of numbers has been selected 3 or more times. This way I get a basic idea of what the numbers are doing relative to time and can generalize for some of the others that have not come up yet. Its mostly educated guess, but it works for me. I also look at the column distribution and total distribution for Powerballs pick 5 part of the drawing. There I apply some of the same picked 3 or more times to the total distribution of number frequency.

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WIN D

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Oct 15, 2003, 12:37 pm

hypersonig.....sorry, just saw your question about the 2.7 years. That's just the amount of time to equal the chart of 1000 numbers. If its 7 days a week that is. More for straight hit data than anything else.
EXCALIBUR

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Nov 14, 2003, 4:23 pm

The Number of draws depends on the particular lottery program or system and game.I think that since the pick3 has only 10#s

from 0-9 and 1000 combinations it would need fewer history entries than the other games,that have more than 30 numbers

and millions of number combinations,and on the pick3 it would also depend on weather you want to play any or straight order.

On the pick5or6 on how many numbers you want to get right

the more numbers right the longer history draw,except in programs such as LottoSyncronizer that need only 3 draws.

When guessing numbers you can go several ways 2 of them are

in serial or parallel so to speak,for example:

In the pick6 lotto there are 6#s that make a very big number,

if you try to guess the next complete big number,based on

all or any of the past whole bif 3s such as 6 16 44 31 3 25

your chances of guessing the next number right are

1 in 20 or more millions.

But if you that 6 16 44 31 3 25 and all the other past numbers as being six separate singles numbers and try to predict them

separate from the others,using for example the numbers

1-44 then your chance of getting any one of them right is only 1/44 instead of 1/20,000,000 if you try to predict the whole

number as being one number or unit.

On the pick3 predicting the 3numbers (374) as one number you chances as 1/1000,but if you take 3-7-4 as being 3

separate numbers and try to predict them singly by

themselves then your chances of getting any one of them

right are only 1/10 because there are only 10 numbers from

0-9 in each position.
kbcherokee

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Nov 14, 2003, 6:05 pm

For me and my system... 10

Chief

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MikeK

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Nov 27, 2003, 2:54 pm

A bit late, but I was out for a while....
One of my first formulas was this one.
Field-Size / Set-Size * 1.5 = Number of Draws to Analyze
e. g. 6/49
49 / 6 * 1.5 = 12.25 (About 12 draws)
Good Luck!
DreamLotto

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Nov 27, 2003, 11:03 pm

Hi Mikek,
Thanks for this formula. I recently narrowly missed hitting the big one on our MaxLotto, a 16-draw-old 649 Lotto played Saturdays and that pays for hits with even TWO numbers! I am now fine tuning my lottery strategy and studying 'companion numbers' along with totals to try next time. Have hit 3 and 4 many times for petty expenses...LOL!
Read my full post and story at https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/73084/3
Happy Thanksgiving!

Just Monkeying Around With Numbers...!
CASH Only

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Dec 17, 2003, 11:38 am

I don't bother trying to track numbers.
bobby623

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Jan 4, 2004, 9:31 am

I track individual numbers in order of occurrence. I limit my history files to 15-25 draws, depending on the data I'm using to select numbers. Numbers do repeat often, whether its paris, triples, quads, or all 5 or all 6. The fact that combination 2-10, or any other combination, came up a hundred draws ago is not a good reason not to play it in the next draw, if other indicators suggest that combination is due.
CASH Only

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Jan 5, 2004, 8:30 am

And what do you do with a game like PA Match 6, where you won't be able to select all your numbers?
CASH Only

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Jan 6, 2004, 8:25 am

Also, how do you approach a game's first drawing?
Pick-4_Master

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Jan 14, 2004, 7:45 am

26 draws minimum 52 draws maximum for Pick-6

30 draws minimum 60 draws maximum for Pick-5

20 draws minimum 40 maximum for Pick-3/4
hypersoniq

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Jan 15, 2004, 3:28 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on January 14, 2004

26 draws minimum 52 draws maximum for Pick-6
30 draws minimum 60 draws maximum for Pick-5
20 draws minimum 40 maximum for Pick-3/4

why?

Have an EXCELlent day!
Pick-4_Master

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Jan 15, 2004, 3:42 pm

From analysis using different draw histories to see which gives the best positive results for tracking numbers.I used several different programs to come up with this ratio

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