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WIN D

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Oct 20, 2003, 1:02 pm

Does anyone track their States straights from year to year that has any good suggestions. Most software is setup to confirm hits after the fact or if you have one particular in mind before hand. If you search a particular straight that is dmbedded in your database thats fine. Ask and you receive but thats not good. Should not have to ask on each particular straight.
Looking for visual glues on one page that you can scan quickly.
Looking for some way to have these potential future straights presented all on one page. Straights that have not hit in 12 mos,18 mo.s etc. and the never hit before straights as well.
A page that might color code Straights from say 2002 as blue and 2001 as green and 2000 red......1999 and before magenta.
Perhaps the color codes are too much to ask.
Maybe the 1000 number chart on one page with all the hits high-lighted under each of the 10 columns......leaving you with only the few that are left to ponder.........and the ones that are ......say older than 12 to 18 months coded a different way.
Each of the 10 columns in the 1000 number chart will average 36 straights per year under each column. This leaves us with only about 64 potential straights to look at the beginning of each year.
If we go back further to 18 months......we can subtract another 180 straights or 18 per column.......total 54 Straights we can subtract from all 10 columns(average).
Butttttt Win d you say ...what about those comeback straights? Well ....sorry you will justbox again .....like you do 5 out of 6 times you hit now. One thing we know ......its fewer than 10% in less than a year on these comebacks and that holds true almost out to 18 months. We take the risk. It's not the only tool we will use...right.
Any thoughts ???????
winsumloosesum

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Oct 21, 2003, 5:47 pm

I like the idea WIN D.
I did this for Pennsylvania Pick 3.
I combined Midday and Evening.
I collected the entire history in Excel.
I have all 1000 numbers and the last date they hit.
I then run a data sort by date to see what number is the longest out. I have some numbers that are out years.
I'll send you my list if interested!!
WSLS
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Oct 22, 2003, 8:03 am

Interesting Winsum,
Have you or could you do for New Jersey?
Thanks
Bill

lets live long and prosper!
Bill
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Oct 22, 2003, 10:18 am

I went a little further with your idea Win D.
I sorted the entire history by Root Sum
For those interested in Root Sum:
1. Add your 3 digit number together eg 3-5-4 = 12 Sum
000 = sum of 0 (lowest sum or root sum of 0)
999 = sum of 27 (highest sum or root sum of 7)
2. Use only the last digit of the sum which would be 2
Sum to Root Sum Chart
0 = 0
1 = 1
2 = 2
3 = 3
4 = 4
5 = 5
6 = 6
7 = 7
8 = 8
9 = 9
10 = 0
11 = 1
12 = 2
13 = 3
14 = 4
15 = 5
16 = 6
17 = 7
18 = 8
19 = 9
20 = 0
21 = 1
22 = 2
23 = 3
24 = 4
25 = 4
26 = 6
27 = 7
There are only 10 Root Sums compared to 27
Each Root sum has corresponding Sums:
0 = Root sum 0 - 10 - 20
1 = " " 1 - 11 - 21
2 = " " 2 - 12 - 22
3 = " " 3 - 13 - 23
4 = " " 4 - 14 - 24
5 = " " 5 - 15 - 25
6 = " " 6 - 16 - 26
7 = " " 7 - 17 - 27
8 = " " 8 - 18
9 = " " 9 - 19
Each Root sum has 1 triple combination, 9 double combinations (3way) and 12 Non Double Combination (eg 123).
The key here is if you believe in trends is to track Root Sums and develop a hit and miss chart on past draws or to play the root sum that is hot.
After Win D had posted this idea I wanted to try it out starting Wednesday midday in Pennsylvania to see if it works.
I now have all my combinations sorted by Root Sum.
In each of my Root Sum lists (10 Total), I have all of my combinations:
For Example:
In my Root Sum List #8
Number Sum Root Sum Date Last Hit Total Hits
710 8 8 7/6/2001 7
017 8 8 2/18/2003 7
071 8 8 4/30/2003 16
170 8 8 5/30/2003 7
107 8 8 6/28/2003 14
701 8 8 7/20/2003 10
I then highlight all the hits for 2003.
Today I am playing Root 8 list for Midday straight and box:
710 602 350 512 341 891 927 369 378 549 765 468
008 404 909 611 224 323 882 558 747
666 (straight only)
Root Sum 8 is out 4 draws (or days).
Root Sum 8 repeated when at 4 days repeated 4 times since May 8th 2003.
I combine midday and evening.
Let's see what happens!!
If anyone is interested in the Excel file on how I set this up send me your email address.
Good Luck!!
WSLS
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Oct 22, 2003, 10:32 am

The combinations I am playing are the numbers furthest out by date.
For example:
710 last drawn 7/16/2001
602 12/11/2002
350 10/26/1995
512 4/2/1996
341 1/31/1999
891 3/19/2000
927 11/15/1996
369 1/31/2001
378 5/22/1995
549 8/18/2000
765 3/16/1997
468 12/23/1998
008 8/21/1998
404 12/11/2001
909 4/12/2002
611 4/14/2003
224 7/5/2001
323 7/27/1999
882 10/25/2000
558 1/14/1999
747 5/6/2001
666 7/17/2002
I am not good with odds, correct me if I'm wrong.
I have 10 Root Sum lists and I am playing 1 out of 10 does this give me 10 to 1 odds??
If anyone has any comments, suggestions or ideas.
If anyone would like the Excel File with the Root Sums lists email me and I will send it out.
All you would need to do is Sort your Pick 3 history in Excel by Root Sum and just enter your dates.
Good Luck!!
WSLS

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Oct 22, 2003, 10:41 am

	Pick 3		Sum	Roots	Date Last Hit	Last Drawing	Drawings	Number of	Current
	Number					Number	Out	Hits	Drawing Number

7	1	0	8	8	7/6/2001	8261	1091	7	9352
0	1	7	8	8	2/18/2003	8860	492	7	9352
0	7	1	8	8	4/30/2003	9003	349	16	9352
1	7	0	8	8	5/30/2003	9062	290	7	9352
1	0	7	8	8	6/28/2003	9121	231	14	9352
7	0	1	8	8	7/20/2003	9165	187	10	9352
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Oct 22, 2003, 10:43 am

9155	7/15/2003	828	8	2	8	18	8	4
9165	7/20/2003	701	7	0	1	8	8	10
9167	7/21/2003	800	8	0	0	8	8	2
9181	7/28/2003	486	4	8	6	18	8	14
9190	8/2/3003	080	0	8	0	8	8	9
9252	9/2/2003	864	8	6	4	18	8	62
9253	9/2/2003	080	0	8	0	8	8	1
9273	9/12/2003	422	4	2	2	8	8	20
9280	9/16/2003	783	7	8	3	18	8	7
9296	9/24/2003	161	1	6	1	8	8	16
9312	10/2/2003	567	5	6	7	18	8	16
9316	10/4/2003	161	1	6	1	8	8	4
9348	10/20/3003	738	7	3	8	18	8	32
								4

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Oct 22, 2003, 10:49 am

837 in PA(M), I hope you caught it.

Good tracking buddy
winsumloosesum

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Oct 22, 2003, 10:52 am

Previous 2 posts show example taken from Root Sum 8 listing.
The 6-way combination of 017 when each number last hit, the number of drawings out, total hits for each combination and 61 total hits for all 6 numbers.
The previous post is a sample from the Root Sum #8 History.
I played Root Sum #8 for Pennsylvania Miiday Oct 22.
Notic on the bottom "4" meaning that Root Sum 8 is at 4 draws (3 plus the Midday - does not include the draw). It is easier to see from past draws how many drawings have hit at "4".
Notice it hit 2 times before 10/4/2003 and 7/15/2003.
Hopefully "4" will be kind!!
Good Luck!!
WSLS

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Oct 22, 2003, 10:55 am

Hi CPLUS,

Yep "4" was kind!!

Boxed It!!

3	7	8	18	8	5/22/1995	6004	3348	6	9352
8	3	7	18	8	10/29/1995	6164	3188	6	9352
8	7	3	18	8	3/19/2003	8918	434	12	9352
3	8	7	18	8	4/29/2003	9001	351	13	9352
7	8	3	18	8	9/16/2003	9280	72	11	9352
7	3	8	18	8	10/20/2003	9348	4	7	9352
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cplus

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Oct 22, 2003, 10:56 am

I like the 170 combo myself, but for far less technical reasons.

It fell twice back-2-back last October.

We'll see, I'm trying to keep my methods for tracking numbers simple. I have not hit in the last 2 months "over-calculating".

Good Luck
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Oct 22, 2003, 10:58 am

I was going to play 2 of the oldest numbers.
I'm kicking myself for not playinf that 8-3-7!!
Live and learn!!
Good Luck!!
WSLS
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Oct 22, 2003, 11:03 am

You know it was one of Casho's Red Pick Straight!!!!!

I am thinking waaayyyy too much. Maybe with your help we can both profit big.

Talk to you later.

Congrats on the box.
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Oct 22, 2003, 11:06 am

BTW, I am interseted in in Excel file. please send it to coopcamp@juno.com
WIN D

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Oct 22, 2003, 11:27 am

That was great Steve.
I would sure try to separate the 2 draws however.....tooooo many reasons to list.....as far as trapping Straights that is...
Number one reason...... is that it slants all the math averages I have become sooooo use to over the years. LOL
The other reason ......it forces you to play both games
Maybe just me .....but I don't track eve. as much as Midday...I think a person loses their feel on both ...if you do

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