Wolves and other large predators on public lands

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Hi blogsters:

Cowgirlpoets blog entry got me thinking about the whole issue.  It's a problem.

The public, through the elected government, has decided it would like to continue to have large dangerous predators on wild, public lands.  Those predators occasionally kill livestock and people.

The issue's a thorny one caused by conflicts of private and public interests.  But on public lands there should be no question of which interests are to be furthered.

Ranchers who lease grazing rights on public lands have no choice, shouldn't have any choice, other than to bend to the public choices and priorities about the uses for that land.  If they don't want to lose calves to large predators they need to graze their cows on land they own, rather than on land where public choices apply.

However, having said that, there's the matter of what a land-owner is to do when his fences, crops, livestock and equipment are the targets of preditation and destruction by creatures protected by Federal statutes and policies.  The options of those land owners are continuously shrinking.

Protecting and re-introducing preditation to public land is a legitimate option for the public to choose.  But carrying the process further and forbidding any land owner from protecting his property from large predators, predatory birds, and large ruminants of the seasonal huntable wildlife management varieties is a grave imposition on the rights of land owners.

It's a tough set of options.  Occasionally people who go into wild areas are going to be hurt or killed by large predators.  But wild is wild.  The experience of going into wild areas isn't the same as going into a public park or zoo.  It's not intended to be.

Humans have faced the risks of encountering large predators throughout human history and generally survived with some losses.  They've made the choice that some of that wildness should be preserved.  People who don't want to encounter such risks ought to stay out of wild areas and take their chances in public parks against human, more dangerous and pervasive predators.

As for grazing cows in such places, they are not and should not be the priority unless the land being grazed belongs to the man who owns the livestock, or unless the public choices about land use make a priority of protecting cows instead of large predators.

Jack

Entry #436

Comments

Avatar cowgirlpoet -
#1
The last thing I want to do is get into it with you, your mind is sharp as a tack, and I do agree with some, if not all, of your opinions.

On the others, let's just agree to disagree -- enough said?
Avatar Rip Snorter -
#2
Hi cowgirlpoet:

Thanks for the comment.

I'll agree not to offer up my opinions on your blog comment section if you'd prefer. Your wish is my command in that regard.

On the other hand, you entered a blog entry about the release of wolves. I commented on your blog, and I entered this blog entry. I could have as easily just said it all in a blog entry, which I'll do in the future if that's how you'd prefer it.

But you'd be asking too much to suggest I keep my silence on an issue, either as a comment on my blog, or as an entry on yours, that I feel as strongly about as I do about this one.

Name your poison, m'lady.

Jack
Avatar cowgirlpoet -
#3
Hey, go for it. Passions run high for both sides on the issues of public grazing, but I'm not so "pro" that I can't consider other opinions. For me, a good compromise would be for the State of Arizona and BLM to sell some of their vast holdings and retain that which is best for recreational use. This way, there would be enough land for ranchers and recreationalists, too.
Avatar Rip Snorter -
#4
Likely won't come to any agreement on such matters, but it wouldn't make enough difference to fill a spittoon if we did. I hate what's happening to the southwest insofar as development. I hate giving up sections of desert to strip mining to light up the hair dryers in Phoenix. I hate giving up one inch of anything development can't get to, which it would if what you suggest happened.

If BLM and AZ sell lands to ranchers and nothing is done to bring beef prices up so's a person can make a living doing it, those lands will be there on your desk along with all the others for five-acre ranchettes. Only difference will be that you and a subdividing rancher will get an opportunity to make some bucks off it.

As the old character in the Ken Keesee novel, Sometimes A Great Notion, was fond of saying, "Don't give a inch!"

That's my philosophy and will be until the day I die.

Which is worth the contents of a spittoon in the overall scheme of things.

Jack
Avatar cowgirlpoet -
#5
You've obviously put a lot of thought into the use of public lands. I'm at a disadvantage there, because I have my hands full just trying to hold on to my private land. The city has condemned some for their "flood levy", the Nature Conservancy is after me for a "conservation easement", land developers are pushing, taxes go up and up if I don't run enough cattle for what the State considers a "viable cattle ranching operation".
Avatar Rip Snorter -
#6
Hold on to it lady and don't give a inch. No bringing it back once it's gone.
J

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