http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaGqVbAzjng

A while back I posted a similar video to the one in the link above.

I don't believe that whole Moses story anyways, and like Christopher Hitchens points out, no evidence has ever been found. But for argument's sake, even If it did happen, are people to believe that prior to the Exodus headed by Moses to Mount Sinai and the ten commandments, folks thought it was OK to kill humans, or steal etc...?

It's simply absurd.

which god,as there are so many with different gods.

You can't do anything without God. Good or bad. If someone is moral and don't believe in God the spiritual law of whatever morals they have still works. Spiritual laws don't care about your morals or who you are. I know lots of successful and moral people who do not believe in God. It's the good spiritual laws of God that they put in place.

Then i know successful people who do not believe in God and use the bad spiritual laws and they are the ones that take, take, take, kill, kill, kill with morals or remorse.

You can be a Jeffrey Damer 100 times over and exercise the spiritual law of grace - it will come to you.

@ tenaj
I figure you mean, Jeffry Dahmer? Are you thinking that he didn't believe in God?

Jeffrey Dahmer was religious, as a member of the Stone-Campbell denomination known as the Church of Christ. He requested to be baptised while serving his sentence and was later beaten to death by his cellmate.

@ truecritic
another "fair statement" from true critic.
just how 'religious'   IS a 5year old in the cementation of their OWN belief systems at that age (5) ?

he was a "member" huh?   
probably tithed his piggy bank and pokey mon cards in order to be a "member" in good standing

as a child, dahmer "attended" at the behest of his parents, UNTIL he was 5, after which he did not attend anymore, and if you google his life's chronoILLOGICAL story, his family unit disintegrated after that.....as did he.

another underhanded attempt by you, this time by insinuating dahmer had 'religious beliefs', specifically "Christian".

that's what's nasty about the motivations that people like you have, a purposeful and yet a contrived "innocent" agenda to throw garbage against a wall, praying it sticks.

anybody that picks truth in life can tell dahmer wasn't "religious" ----> ever.

maybe when his conscience caught up to him and stared him in the face, factoring in his inevitability that he will meet God someday......maybe THEN he got "religious".   

but before then, never.   

he attended church, big whoop. he was 5 years old, and only went because his parents took him

guys like you have zero conscience about lying, and that's actually what it amounts to when you purposefully manufacture something that wasn't there, to influence peoples thinking.

you want to influence people, do it by laying out ALL the facts, and let the true facts rise to the surface and assimilate THAT.   you don't play life by those rules, you use "white out" on a regular basis

do people that do heinous crimes against humanity have "religious affiliations" in their rear view mirror? yep, sometimes they do.   but just because they attend church, it does NOT mean they have a heart where God dwells so that they have a "speedbump" to evil.

in fact, there are a TON of people that tattend church all their life, who do not know God.

they know 'about God', but they don't KNOW HIM, and sometimes there is a serial-killer difference.

but to insinuate that dahmer WAS "religious",   that's just a nasty / purposeful propoganda lie

that's some life you live.

tell the truth, THE WHOLE TRUTH, so help you God...

VD

Here's the quote:
"After being imprisoned for his crimes, Dahmer sought out the church of his childhood and petitioned to be re-baptized in the Church of Christ. This caused some controversy, but he persisted until he was able receive this rite, which he was apparently sincere in requesting. Shortly after being re-baptized into the Church of Christ, Dahmer was murdered by his cellmate. "

Is anyone religious like you? Nope - I don't know anyone like you. Was Dahmer religious when he died? YES.
That's how I read it. It's not propoganda - it's how "NORMAL" people view whether someone is or isn't religious.

truecritic, THANK YOU for not lumping me into what you define as 'normal'.   your right, i purposefully won't swim in that river, because i prefer goldfish over piranah's in the truth game of life.

just another act from you. i know your consistent biased motivations, and that gives me the ability to read thru lines most people gloss over.

you purposefully used the word "member", to imply something more solid, and therefore it piggybacked your slimey move

the dude was never a member pre, or post heinous.

it's these little methodology buzzwords guys like you use to make an underhanded claim when it ISN'T THERE.

did he employ something "religious" post heinous?   evidently, based on reports.
but those same reports included facts you purposefully skipped, so that you could slide your agenda under the sidedoor.

what do you think purposefully omitting facts amounts to, truecritic?

in your world of representing truth, willful omission is part of doing business.

anything for the sacrifice at the alter of truth...... TO alter truth
(oh man, that's a good one. just made that up on the fly. gonna use it again soon i predict)

you know you do it, I know you do it, and everytime you do it when it concerns things like this, everyone else is going to know it too, thanks to my skills.

it's just unfortunate you couldn't replicate facts about dahmer, you just had to go "there".

i know. i always seem to know. it's a gift, so you might as well get used to it

remember when ridge busted you for pulling the same intellectual willful spillage of "truth" circus act?

VD

I wasn't going to bother with your ridiculous crap but here's what I asked tenaj, for clarification:

"Are you thinking that he (Dahmer) didn't believe in God?"

He was either an atheist or did believe in God. I read NOTHING that said he was an atheist. I'm not omitting anything. If you find a quote somewhere that says he was an atheist, post a link here. I'll gladly add that information to what I already said.

You know, I don't shoot you down for every unintentional error you make. I don't shoot you every time for not using proper grammar. I don't point out that you don't use upper case letters to start each sentence each time you post. Yet you insist on nit-picking crap that doesn't matter. You could of just added what you felt I omitted but you have to make a big deal out of nothing. I still think member is the correct word. I don't think they would re-baptize him if he wasn't a member? If you find something, post a link that says he wasn't a member.

I haven't got a clue what you mean about the circus.

ah but you do.

ridge rightfully publically aknowledged your "innocent act" as to your motivation at times given the subject matter.

never said dahmer was an 'atheist'.   i just made the accurate notation given the only facts that are known about him that he went to church because of his parents till he was 5.

never said he didn't take 'religion' out for a test drive prior to his dirt nap.

he acted like an atheist from 5 on, but NO ONE KNOWS his 'beliefs' after 5.
at least YOU have never read anything that stated his "belief' in god from 5 on ......UNTIL he got prison religion.

for the record, before i continue, ONLY GOD KNOWS if dahmer meant his "repentance", or it was nothing more than attempting to "cover his bases".   

God only recognizes repentance.   He rejects "religion" as a means for acceptance, hopefully dahmer 'meant it'

the reason i threw a flashlight your way, is because you attempted to underhandedly align dahmer with Christianity, to undermine Christianity, to imply "see, it doesn't work".

you will lie to the hills that wasn't your motivation, but i know it was, and that's what i am bothering to call you on.

dahmer had ZIP to do with Christianity his entire life prior to prison, prior to his wishing to be baptized at mimimum, and THAT'S how one replicates truth.

i smell your little "innocent" attempts at taking pot shots at Christianity, and i don't mind if you don't like it, or agree with it, just don't attempt to make lying "connective truths" about it.

the 'member' reference was that attempt to link dahmer to his childhood experience, and you know it

anyway, thanks for underlining "why" you are on my radar screen.

i was minding my own business, making my comments and opinions in other threads about systems vs QP's, and then because you didn't like it, YOU eventually started attacking me, including moving straight to the gutter about my grammer, etc, etc etc.....and a bunch of other non peripheral garbage.

between us, YOU brought this to yourself.   your the one that thought you would give me the what's what, so all i am doing now is giving you what you asked for.

if you had stated stuff verbatim sans hidden agenda about dhamer, you wouldn't have to experience a repercussion of your own doing.

like ridge said, the "innocent act" is rediculous.

you snivel people out before they highlight you, that's an archived fact.

be fair to Christianity, truecritic

you don't have to like it, but lying about it is unacceptable

i will always know when you do

VD

You keep making this stuff up about me - I've never lied about anything I posted. So stop doing that. Your grammar is a real problem and it is a fact - you can't say I made it up, it's all true. One only has to read any post of yours to see it. Anyway, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I agree with you that no one knows if his re-baptism was for real or not:

(for the record, before i continue, ONLY GOD KNOWS if dahmer meant his "repentance", or it was nothing more than attempting to "cover his bases". )

OK, I'm done here. If you are going to continue, you do it without me.

Without traffic cops, how can you drive safely & responsibly?

"Without traffic cops, how can you drive safely & responsibly?"

Think about the last time you drove when there was little chance of being observed by a traffic cop. Was it that difficult?