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Florida Lottery draws same Play 4 numbers
Florida Lottery draws same Play 4 numbersPosted: 8/23/2008 10:52:43 AM  Coincidence, not a mistake, officials say
The Play 4 Florida lottery number Tuesday night: 1-9-5-8.
The Play 4 Florida lottery number Wednesday afternoon: 1-9-5-8.
Same game. Same number. Two consecutive drawings.
"It is a little bit unusual, but all of our drawings are independent of each other," said Shelly Safford, Lottery spokeswoman. "It's completely random."
Still, the department fielded calls from curious players. "There was not an error," Safford said.
But there was another oddity.
Wednesday's payout from the midday drawing, which was added to the state's roster of get-rich-quick games May 19, was nearly $1.3 million with 1,275 winners. Before that, the average payout was just $87,769 with 281 winners.
The spike may simply be because more people bet on the winning sequence — 1-9-5-8, Safford said.
The previous highest payout for the Play 4 midday contest was nearly $470,000 on June 10. The winning combo that afternoon: 2-7-2-7.
"There are just certain number combinations that seem to be more popular with players," Safford said. "As far as the security and integrity of the two drawings, it's nothing being investigated or anything."
Lottery workers take security precautions in the Play 4 Game, where winning numbers are selected mechanically from tanks of numbered pingpong balls, Safford said.
In Pennsylvania in the 1980s, a Pittsburgh TV announcer and a lottery official were convicted of rigging the $3.5 million Daily Number by tampering with the pingpong balls.
The lucky numbers that day: 6-6-6.
Thanks to BobP for the tip. Source: Sun-Sentinel
NY United States Member #54982 August 21, 2007 1176 Posts Offline |
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Wow.The odd's of any Win 4 number hitting straight on any given night are 1 in 10, 000.So what are the Odds of the same # hitting straight two nights in a row?Correct me if i'm wrong, but does anyone know the odds of the same Play 4 # hitting "straight" two consecutive nights in a row?
1 in 10, 000 x 1 in 10,000= 1 in 10,000,000 ?
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Atlantic Mine, Michigan United States Member #417 June 23, 2002 1532 Posts Offline |
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No that would be the odds of hitting it three times in a row. They are independent events and when you are comparing one to another its is just the odds of that number coming up. When 1958 came up there was a 1 in 10,000 chance that the next drawing would result the same numbers.
Brad
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Sunny SW Florida United States Member #25708 November 5, 2005 4080 Posts Offline |
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I posted about this in the pick-4 forum on Wed and remarked that 1958 is the year a lot of lottery players are born. That might be why there were so many winners. People bet birthdays a lot, so maybe a birth year is more popular then other combinations. Just a guess. At first I thought 1958 on Tues & Wed was another mistake on the FL Lottery web site, but I checked Lottery Post to make sure.
Maybe another reason for the large payout is that people bought advanced plays because of the weather. I rarely buy them, but I did Monday, since power outages were predicted throughout the state.
Regarding the odds, I agree with Bradly. Also, since the FL Lottery conducts 6 pre-tests before the second Play-4 drawing, it really wasn't consecutive in the true sense. (which is why I don't like them!!)
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Viva La Chance! Rockville, MD. United States Member #44542 July 30, 2006 1435 Posts Offline |
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I posted about this in the pick-4 forum on Wed and remarked that 1958 is the year a lot of lottery players are born. That might be why there were so many winners. People bet birthdays a lot, so maybe a birth year is more popular then other combinations. Just a guess. At first I thought 1958 on Tues & Wed was another mistake on the FL Lottery web site, but I checked Lottery Post to make sure.
Maybe another reason for the large payout is that people bought advanced plays because of the weather. I rarely buy them, but I did Monday, since power outages were predicted throughout the state.
Regarding the odds, I agree with Bradly. Also, since the FL Lottery conducts 6 pre-tests before the second Play-4 drawing, it really wasn't consecutive in the true sense. (which is why I don't like them!!) Me so born in 1958! Hit in MD. boxo but not str8oh this year. I wait long time, for 1958, I wish I live in FLA. last week! IDA BEEN NOUVEAU RICHEE.................................................
And today 9153! The 8 turned into a 3!
Since Eisenhower was a Republican Prez. in 1958 and was born in 1890 I am going to start multiple on 1890.
MD past few days:
| Sat, Aug 23, 2008 |
0-1-9 |
8-2-6-9 |
| Fri, Aug 22, 2008 |
0-9-9 |
8-7-1 |
5-1-0-9 |
8-9-7-1 |
| Thu, Aug 21, 2008 |
0-9-9 |
4-0-8 |
2-2-1-7 |
5-5-9-4 |
| Wed, Aug 20, 2008 |
3-6-6 |
4-8-9 |
2-2-6-9 |
5-9-9-9 |
| Tue, Aug 19, 2008 |
0-8-2 |
4-5-1 |
6-3-2-2 |
9-1-4-2 |
| Mon, Aug 18, 2008 |
7-6-7 |
2-9-4 |
6-7-3-7 |
6-1-5-6 |
| Sun, Aug 17, 2008 |
8-0-6 |
9-9-4 |
5-2-3-1 |
8-7-3-1 |
Of course yesterday I played 5189 multiple, and 8901 single day and night! Today I was looking for 3296! AAAAhhhhhrrrrgggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tonight I will have my way 7594 all the way! What is your conceptual continuity?
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United States Member #381 June 5, 2002 1986 Posts Online |
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"Wednesday's payout from the midday drawing, which was added to the state's roster of get-rich-quick games May 19, was nearly $1.3 million with 1,275 winners. Before that, the average payout was just $87,769 with 281 winners."
I believe there are people who's system is to play the last drawn number again in the next draw in the hope exactly what happened in Florida will happen again.
Look at the difference between how many played that number Tuesday night and how many played Wednesday morning. Does that look like people playing their birth year to you or putting a couple of bucks down on yesterday's number on purpose?
If they are playing a Pick-4 Tic Tac Dough, it would include the numbers from the last four draws played across. Bingo! BobP
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United States Member #10921 January 23, 2005 765 Posts Offline |
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The odds of a Pick-4 STR repeating is 1/10000 per drawing of it repeating the one before it. That means it should happen about every 15 years or so in any given State. Considering how many daily drawings there are everyplace, it should happen every year or two, right?
It's the same thinking that "the odds of winning Powerball are 1-175M" or whatever, but that's based on only one ticket on only one drawing.
In the new PA Quinto (A daily Pick-5 digit game similar to the 3 or 4) there are some kinds of numbers (Quints, I call them) that type would only happen every 15 years also.
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New Member Palm Bay Fl United States Member #54781 August 13, 2007 1 Posts Offline |
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Sunny SW Florida United States Member #25708 November 5, 2005 4080 Posts Offline |
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"Wednesday's payout from the midday drawing, which was added to the state's roster of get-rich-quick games May 19, was nearly $1.3 million with 1,275 winners. Before that, the average payout was just $87,769 with 281 winners."
I believe there are people who's system is to play the last drawn number again in the next draw in the hope exactly what happened in Florida will happen again.
Look at the difference between how many played that number Tuesday night and how many played Wednesday morning. Does that look like people playing their birth year to you or putting a couple of bucks down on yesterday's number on purpose?
If they are playing a Pick-4 Tic Tac Dough, it would include the numbers from the last four draws played across. Bingo! BobP You're not explaining this correctly because you want to prove a point which is that systems and formulas work. Read the article again.
First of all, the article says the average payout is $87,000 with 281 winners. It does not say that Tuesday evening's payout was $87,000. In fact, the payout on Tuesday evening was $1.8 million. So Wednesday drawing paid less which completely contradicts your theory.
If playing the pick from the previous evening is a "system," it's not a good one. Go through all the Play-4 drawings for the past few years in FL. This is a very rare event, which is why there was so much suspicion. In fact, I originally thought it was a mistake on the FL site until I checked the results on Lottery Post.
"Look at the difference between how many played that number Tuesday night and how many played Wednesday morning. Does that look like people playing their birth year to you or putting a couple of bucks down on yesterday's number on purpose?"
No. I copied this from the Florida web site.
Tuesday evening
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1-9-5-8 Evening
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$1,803,050.00
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1,764
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Wednesday midday
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1-9-5-8 Midday
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$1,299,500.00
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1,275
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Viva La Chance! Rockville, MD. United States Member #44542 July 30, 2006 1435 Posts Offline |
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You're not explaining this correctly because you want to prove a point which is that systems and formulas work. Read the article again.
First of all, the article says the average payout is $87,000 with 281 winners. It does not say that Tuesday evening's payout was $87,000. In fact, the payout on Tuesday evening was $1.8 million. So Wednesday drawing paid less which completely contradicts your theory.
If playing the pick from the previous evening is a "system," it's not a good one. Go through all the Play-4 drawings for the past few years in FL. This is a very rare event, which is why there was so much suspicion. In fact, I originally thought it was a mistake on the FL site until I checked the results on Lottery Post.
"Look at the difference between how many played that number Tuesday night and how many played Wednesday morning. Does that look like people playing their birth year to you or putting a couple of bucks down on yesterday's number on purpose?"
No. I copied this from the Florida web site.
Tuesday evening
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1-9-5-8 Evening
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$1,803,050.00
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1,764
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Wednesday midday
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1-9-5-8 Midday
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$1,299,500.00
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1,275
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I think more people play night than day, just a guess. What is your conceptual continuity?
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