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Iowa Lottery on the verge of revealing names of 'Shipping 20' winners

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Posted: July 5, 2012, 10:16 am - IP Logged

 The lotto should only mention the name on the ticket. No one cares who won, only location.

Lots of grifters care and probably a few exes.

The smartest of the Shipping 20 will have shipped themselves elsewhere by now.

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    Posted: July 5, 2012, 10:25 am - IP Logged

    Actually, this sounds like a smart move for them to have their names publized after they've obtained the money and had time to move.   I think I will remember that bag of tricks if the opportunity presents itself to me. ....

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      If the names of lottery winners are considered public records then lottery winners should have the right to make all requests for their money public records too. 

      It would be interesting to know the names and addresses of those making such requests along with the amounts and reasons they give for their requests.

      * you don't need more tickets, just the right ticket * 
      * your best chance at winning a lottery jackpot is to buy a ticket * 
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        Posted: July 5, 2012, 12:12 pm - IP Logged

        If the names of lottery winners are considered public records then lottery winners should have the right to make all requests for their money public records too. 

        It would be interesting to know the names and addresses of those making such requests along with the amounts and reasons they give for their requests.

        Thats a great idea,RJOH.Then they could be tracked and we could see who the worst repeat offenders are.I'm pretty sure there are people out there that hound winner after winner looking for a handout.

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          Posted: July 5, 2012, 1:00 pm - IP Logged

          Thats a great idea,RJOH.Then they could be tracked and we could see who the worst repeat offenders are.I'm pretty sure there are people out there that hound winner after winner looking for a handout.

          I Agree! .......

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            Thats a great idea,RJOH.Then they could be tracked and we could see who the worst repeat offenders are.I'm pretty sure there are people out there that hound winner after winner looking for a handout.

            In addition, once these requests are public with names, addresses and their needs, the people making them might find they have friends and neighbors in their communities willing to help them if they are aware of their needs.

            I think if I was ever a lottery winners, I would request all those requesting my money sign a form allowing me to use their personal information any way I chose before even considering their requests to the point of suing them for fraud if that was the case.

            * you don't need more tickets, just the right ticket * 
            * your best chance at winning a lottery jackpot is to buy a ticket * 
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              Posted: July 5, 2012, 1:38 pm - IP Logged

              Nobody who follows the news here should be surprised by this, as there is recent precedent.

              http://www.lotterypost.com/news/241598

              If you click to that story, all the follow-on articles about it can be found in the Related Stories box to the right.

              In the prior story the lottery officials were not given the names of the underlying winner or winners.  Everything seemed suspicious from the start.  In the case of the "Shipping 20" the lottery has all that information and there is nothing suspicious about the win.  As suggested by others, perhaps the goal was only to buy time between getting paid and their names published.  The attorney could still file the petition for a restraining order today and get a friendly judge to grant a preliminary injuction to buy more time.  He might expect to lose eventually, but might be able to buy a few more weeks or months.

              As to the formation of the "Shipping 20 Trust," I think the attorney is saying an unwritten trust was created when the money was pooled and the ticket purchased.  I don't know if Iowa has any statutes on this, but his position is consistent with the Common Law we inherited from Great Britain when our country was formed.

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                Posted: July 5, 2012, 1:40 pm - IP Logged

                In addition, once these requests are public with names, addresses and their needs, the people making them might find they have friends and neighbors in their communities willing to help them if they are aware of their needs.

                I think if I was ever a lottery winners, I would request all those requesting my money sign a form allowing me to use their personal information any way I chose before even considering their requests to the point of suing them for fraud if that was the case.

                LOL I still say such requests ought to be put to good use heating and or insulating one's house or better yet ... just write on it "return to sender"

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                  Posted: July 6, 2012, 1:07 pm - IP Logged

                  Actually, this sounds like a smart move for them to have their names publized after they've obtained the money and had time to move.   I think I will remember that bag of tricks if the opportunity presents itself to me. ....

                  I agree. No reason to hide that which you sought to gain. I am more leery of business's and persons that Hide their monies then those that are honest.

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                    Posted: July 6, 2012, 1:14 pm - IP Logged

                    In addition, once these requests are public with names, addresses and their needs, the people making them might find they have friends and neighbors in their communities willing to help them if they are aware of their needs.

                    I think if I was ever a lottery winners, I would request all those requesting my money sign a form allowing me to use their personal information any way I chose before even considering their requests to the point of suing them for fraud if that was the case.

                    Whatever is on the outside of the envelope is already "public info" and fair game. LOL

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                      Posted: July 6, 2012, 1:47 pm - IP Logged

                      I've always been of the opinion that Iowa and Minnesota should merge and become one state called Iota.

                      Think of the money Minnesota would save on ink costs for their travel brochures.


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

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                        Posted: July 6, 2012, 3:20 pm - IP Logged

                        I've always been of the opinion that Iowa and Minnesota should merge and become one state called Iota.

                        Think of the money Minnesota would save on ink costs for their travel brochures.

                        I once worked for a large company that spelled employee as "employe" for a very similar reason. Thud

                        Until I worked up the nerve to question it (to someone NOT my supervisorWink), no one bothered to explain it.

                        It seems whoever dropped that idea into the suggestion box got paid quite a bit of money for their illit.. laz.. er .. cleverness.

                        In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
                        Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.