You last visited May 18, 2013, 11:05 am All times shown are Eastern Time (GMT-5:00) | New Jersey casino suing gamblers who won $1.5 million Gambling: New Jersey casino suing gamblers who won $1.5 million51 Rating:Blames unshuffled decks of cards A New Jersey casino has sued a group of gamblers who won $1.5 million after they allegedly realized the eight decks of cards used in a game of mini baccarat were not preshuffled. The Golden Nugget in Atlantic City, N.J., filed suit against the gamblers and playing card company Gemaco after 14 players collectively won $1,536,700 in 41 winning hands. As the same sequence of cards kept appearing April 30, the players increased their bets from $10 to $5,000, the casino alleged. "The gamblers unlawfully took advantage of the Golden Nugget when they caught onto the pattern and ... by passing money to fellow gamblers in order to place bets in excess of posted betting limits," the casino said in a statement. In a lawsuit filed in New Jersey Superior Court, the casino cited gambling regulations that state gaming odds must be fair for both sides. The Golden Nugget is seeking a return of the $558,900 it paid out to several of the players and the nearly $1 million worth of chips. Benjamin Dash, attorney for the gamblers, said his clients, who did not know each other, were "playing the game lawfully." After paying out a portion of the winnings, the casino managers became suspicious. Convinced they were watching a "sophisticated swindling and cheating scheme," they refused to cash in the remaining $1 million in chips. No evidence of a scheme was found. On May 1, the Golden Nugget said it learned by "direct admission" from Gemaco's CEO that the decks used in the baccarat game were unshuffled, despite being touted as preshuffled, certified decks. ABCNews.com was unable to reach Gemaco for comment. Three of the gamblers filed a countersuit against the casino alleging they were discriminated against because of their Chinese heritage. "All of the players were Asian [and] none of their chips were honored," Dash said. "In New Jersey, a chip is evidence of a debt." After the win, Dash said, one of his clients was assaulted when he answered the door of his hotel room. The man was pinned against a wall and his belongings were searched, Dash said. He was then held in a room without access to food, water or an interpreter, according to allegations in the countersuit, which identifies no particular assailant. The Golden Nugget called the claims "completely false." "[We] would never discriminate against anyone, including the Asian community," the casino said in a statement. "In fact, the Golden Nugget designed and built an Asian gaming area and restaurant to specifically attract Asian guests to the casino." The case will be heard Aug. 31. ABC News We'd love to see your comments here! Register for a FREE membership — it takes just a few moments — and you'll be able to post comments here and on any of our forums. If you're already a member, you can Log In to post a comment. 37 comments. Last comment 8 months ago by . mid-Ohio United States Member #9 March 24, 2001 15908 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 22, 2012, 3:27 pm - IP Logged | |
"[We] would never discriminate against anyone, including the Asian community," the casino said in a statement. That's when they are taking someone's money, however that doesn't apply when someone is taking their money. * The fundamentals of winning a lottery jackpot * * play a lottery you can win *
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United States Member #111467 May 25, 2011 6323 Posts Offline
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Sounds like sour grapes from the casino. Their management staff should have checked to insure the card decks were shuffled prior to the start of the game. This is just casino 101 stuff. What idiots, they deserve to have lost.  | | |
rekjavik Iceland Member #99567 October 27, 2010 123 Posts Online | | Posted: August 22, 2012, 3:50 pm - IP Logged | |
How many times has a casino not paid a player because of human or machine error.....  | | |
egg harbor twp.south jersey shore United States Member #112990 June 29, 2011 2485 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 22, 2012, 3:56 pm - IP Logged | |
The casino deserves a settlement from the card MFR. however the players chips should be honered, but w/ this costing jersey tax $ my guess is the jersey supremes will side w/ the casino. Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds -- Charles Mackay LL.D. | | |
Paper Chaser United States Member #81982 October 19, 2009 6324 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 22, 2012, 3:57 pm - IP Logged | |
Maybe Im confused and I read the story wrong. I understood that the people who won notice that THE CASINO did not shuffle the deck of cards. Whos fault is it?? It does sound like sour grapes for the casino. So New Jersey Casino...SHAME ON YOU!! If it was me, HAND ME MY MONEY, the dealer was not doing his/her job and he/she should be penalized for that. A win is a win. The casino, already knows that people know how to count cards, that why they have multiple decks......DUH on yall part!! Yall got caught slipping. ~ I See NOTHING but GREEN in 2013 ~ | | |
egg harbor twp.south jersey shore United States Member #112990 June 29, 2011 2485 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 22, 2012, 3:58 pm - IP Logged | |
How many times has a casino not paid a player because of human or machine error.....  countless times, every machine has a warning on it " malfunction voids all play and pays" Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds -- Charles Mackay LL.D. | | |
Delco PA United States Member #80632 September 16, 2009 193 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 22, 2012, 4:07 pm - IP Logged | |
As a casino player. I freakin LUUUVV it. I heard about this a while ago on a poker table. This is a beautiful thing. There are more details to this story that are just worth looking into. For instance, during the streak security was called to surround the table. They thought the players were cheating. All the pit bosses were fired ( dumbazzes ) dealers, etc.. I think this is hilarious. i hope the players get to keep the winnings. | | |
egg harbor twp.south jersey shore United States Member #112990 June 29, 2011 2485 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 22, 2012, 4:08 pm - IP Logged | |
Maybe Im confused and I read the story wrong. I understood that the people who won notice that THE CASINO did not shuffle the deck of cards. Whos fault is it?? It does sound like sour grapes for the casino. So New Jersey Casino...SHAME ON YOU!! If it was me, HAND ME MY MONEY, the dealer was not doing his/her job and he/she should be penalized for that. A win is a win. The casino, already knows that people know how to count cards, that why they have multiple decks......DUH on yall part!! Yall got caught slipping. 9 ppl. were fired over this incident, all supervisor level and above, no dealers. not just sour grapes, but if the chips are not honered, could also be bad P.R. this casino has been doing pooly for years, I know, my sister has been working there since 85 Its called the golden nugget now, but it just got that name a year ago when a new owner took over. It used to be called Trump marina and before that trump castle. Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds -- Charles Mackay LL.D. | | |
United States Member #111467 May 25, 2011 6323 Posts Offline
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9 ppl. were fired over this incident, all supervisor level and above, no dealers. not just sour grapes, but if the chips are not honered, could also be bad P.R. this casino has been doing pooly for years, I know, my sister has been working there since 85 Its called the golden nugget now, but it just got that name a year ago when a new owner took over. It used to be called Trump marina and before that trump castle. Sounds like a long history of incompetent management.  I agree with the casino's decision to not fire the dealers, their just the low guys on the totem pole. | | |
wisconsin United States Member #130762 July 23, 2012 90 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 22, 2012, 5:44 pm - IP Logged | |
"You can either have the money and the hammer or you can walk out of here. You can't have both. What do you want? " | | |
Connecticut United States Member #62108 May 29, 2008 16593 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 22, 2012, 8:47 pm - IP Logged | |
...if I got screwed out of 1.5 mil I can assure you someone will be getting sodmized with a cactus. It's sad that they run on the mentality that it's ok to keep plundering peoples wallets and bank accounts but it's not ok to take a beating every once in a while whether from personal fault or someones dumb luck "...Life is not a matter of holding good cards,but sometimes playing a poor hand well... 'Fortune Cookie wisdom' | | |
United States Member #111467 May 25, 2011 6323 Posts Offline
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...if I got screwed out of 1.5 mil I can assure you someone will be getting sodmized with a cactus. It's sad that they run on the mentality that it's ok to keep plundering peoples wallets and bank accounts but it's not ok to take a beating every once in a while whether from personal fault or someones dumb luck Wonder if a little Vaseline would ease the pain of the cactus sodomy.  | | |
Connecticut United States Member #62108 May 29, 2008 16593 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 22, 2012, 8:53 pm - IP Logged | |
I meant if I were the player who got screwed out of the money.....and hell no I wouldn't use vaseline.Maybe a habenaro based sauce... "...Life is not a matter of holding good cards,but sometimes playing a poor hand well... 'Fortune Cookie wisdom' | | |
United States Member #111467 May 25, 2011 6323 Posts Offline
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I meant if I were the player who got screwed out of the money.....and hell no I wouldn't use vaseline.Maybe a habenaro based sauce... I knew what you meant Jonny! Just more of a rhetorical out loud thought. 
The sauce would be extremely appropriate.  | | |
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