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NY brothers charged in plot to steal $5M New York Lottery ticket

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Posted: November 14, 2012, 1:36 pm - IP Logged

Games end when the big WINNERS are all gone.... NOT the losers......

Some states sell ALL of the tickets,not just the winning tickets,to maximize profits,hence my answer.

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    Some states sell ALL of the tickets,not just the winning tickets,to maximize profits,hence my answer.

    That could be true but once all the published winners are gone most people will quit the game.

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      Posted: November 14, 2012, 1:41 pm - IP Logged

      If they had a game plan for ripping someone off, why did thet say it was a $5000. winner and not just give them $500. Or even $50.????

      Guilty consciousness. They had to sell a lie that would be believable in their own minds and hopefully to their mark. They knew it was $5m so to them it was a far stretch to offer the customer a mere 500 or 50 dollars.

       

      I agree with you that they didnt graduate from an Ivy League Scam Institution as Patel University so they didn't have a solid plan in place should that lucky day ever come and it did.

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        Perhaps one of the reasons they (the lottery) waited an extra 6 months to be more investigation is so that people in NY would forget how long the game went on with ONE outstanding big ticket........

        Some of the LP members here have complained about playing that game based on ONE outstanding big winning ticket, so maybe some NY'ers here can tell us how long it went on that way??


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          Guilty consciousness. They had to sell a lie that would be believable in their own minds and hopefully to their mark. They knew it was $5m so to them it was a far stretch to offer the customer a mere 500 or 50 dollars.

           

          I agree with you that they didnt graduate from an Ivy League Scam Institution as Patel University so they didn't have a solid plan in place should that lucky day ever come and it did.

          Thats a good one... lol. lol. lol. "Lets tell a lie that WE would believe"..... lol. lol.

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            That could be true but once all the published winners are gone most people will quit the game.

            I agree.But they still sell the tickets because not everyone pays attention,Iowa once had a lottery ticket that sold all of the major prize tickets within a couple of months and took a bath on profits because they pulled the game.Now Iowa has a disclaimer on their scratch off tickets that allows them to continue selling them if the secnd & third place prizes are significant enough to draw the interest of the buying public.Thats why I don't buy scratchers in Iowa.I feel that its false advertisement to sell a ticket that promises a $50,000 prize when all the $50,000 prizes have already been won,

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              Posted: November 14, 2012, 1:54 pm - IP Logged

              Guilty consciousness. They had to sell a lie that would be believable in their own minds and hopefully to their mark. They knew it was $5m so to them it was a far stretch to offer the customer a mere 500 or 50 dollars.

               

              I agree with you that they didnt graduate from an Ivy League Scam Institution as Patel University so they didn't have a solid plan in place should that lucky day ever come and it did.

              Is it possible the NY lottery had the same type of guilty consciousness, and felt compelled to pay off the boys and than later changed their minds and published stories about the incident??

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                This whole thing was fishy from the get-go, and many who post here thought something was wrong when the first news article appeared.

                Dont you think The NYS Lottery thought something was very wrong too?  Give them some credit!  They werent born yesterday, they've seen all the scams, and they took the best steps they could to get to the real truth.  Kudo's to them.

                The Lottery has an obligation to protect the lottery playing public from scam artists, and they take that responsibility seriously.  If they didn't, the lottery playing public would lose faith/confidence in them, and most likely reduce the amount of money they spend playing.  That spells DISASTER for any state's lottery, and it's something no state can afford to let happen.

                Just because we cant see what their doing to protect us, does not mean they're sitting idly by and doing nothing.

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                  Posted: November 14, 2012, 1:56 pm - IP Logged

                  The game went on and on because of the outstanding winning ticket........

                  and the 6 month deadline doest start til THE END OF THE GAME.............

                  No telling how much extra cash the state of NY raked in because of the missing ticket.....

                  Of course the state knew it had been sold but kept selling worthless tickets to the public.

                  So, this indefinate game was a SCAM by the State of New York.  Getting people to buy worthless tickets.  And you say other states do this too.  Most people would go to jail for lottery fraud.  But the STATE is not  a person.   I will never buy a scratch off ticket.


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                    This whole thing was fishy from the get-go, and many who post here thought something was wrong when the first news article appeared.

                    Dont you think The NYS Lottery thought something was very wrong too?  Give them some credit!  They werent born yesterday, they've seen all the scams, and they took the best steps they could to get to the real truth.  Kudo's to them.

                    The Lottery has an obligation to protect the lottery playing public from scam artists, and they take that responsibility seriously.  If they didn't, the lottery playing public would lose faith/confidence in them, and most likely reduce the amount of money they spend playing.  That spells DISASTER for any state's lottery, and it's something no state can afford to let happen.

                    Just because we cant see what their doing to protect us, does not mean they're sitting idly by and doing nothing.

                    Oh that's right, the state would NEVER take advantage of the public in ANY way, EVER..... What?

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                      Oh that's right, the state would NEVER take advantage of the public in ANY way, EVER..... What?

                      I didnt say that.

                      I'm just pointing out that The State of New York had better be careful with the lottery.  They need the income very badly...

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                        So, this indefinate game was a SCAM by the State of New York.  Getting people to buy worthless tickets.  And you say other states do this too.  Most people would go to jail for lottery fraud.  But the STATE is not  a person.   I will never buy a scratch off ticket.

                        Im really not saying "it was" as I dont know, but I do think someone should investigate the investigators What?


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                          Perhaps a DEPT. OF INVESTIGATON OF INVESTIGATION...... What?

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                            So, this indefinate game was a SCAM by the State of New York.  Getting people to buy worthless tickets.  And you say other states do this too.  Most people would go to jail for lottery fraud.  But the STATE is not  a person.   I will never buy a scratch off ticket.

                            If there was at least one outstanding $5,00,000,000 ticket,it WAS NOT a scam.If ALL of the $5,000,000,000 tickets were already sold and they continued to sell tickets,THEN it would be a scam.

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                              If there was at least one outstanding $5,00,000,000 ticket,it WAS NOT a scam.If ALL of the $5,000,000,000 tickets were already sold and they continued to sell tickets,THEN it would be a scam.

                              We now know that one was SOLD, just not CLAIMED.........

                                 
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