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NY brothers charged in plot to steal $5M New York Lottery ticket

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HaveABall's avatar - rocket

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Posted: November 14, 2012, 4:38 pm - IP Logged

They have an inventory of every ticketed printed, whats on it and where it goes. I would think the invetory control is very strict.

Do these scratch-off tickets get scanned upon sale or what? 

Because if yes, then the Lottery Headquarters knows IMMEDIATELY by the sold ticket's scanned "bar code" that one of their winning tickets has been sold and at which lottery retailer (thus, in all fairness the lottery headquarters should announce and post end of the opportunity for first place prize wins and give notice that game tickets for lesser 2nd place prizes, etc. are only available for 30 more days (if still also applicable).  This should be performed by the State's Lottery Headquarters as soon as all of their game's first place tickets have been "SOLD" (not "claimed," via the official Lottery Headquarters' Claim Form)!

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    Posted: November 14, 2012, 4:45 pm - IP Logged

    Do these scratch-off tickets get scanned upon sale or what? 

    Because if yes, then the Lottery Headquarters knows IMMEDIATELY by the sold ticket's scanned "bar code" that one of their winning tickets has been sold and at which lottery retailer (thus, in all fairness the lottery headquarters should announce and post end of the opportunity for first place prize wins and give notice that game tickets for lesser 2nd place prizes, etc. are only available for 30 more days (if still also applicable).  This should be performed by the State's Lottery Headquarters as soon as all of their game's first place tickets have been "SOLD" (not "claimed," via the official Lottery Headquarters' Claim Form)!

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      Posted: November 14, 2012, 4:47 pm - IP Logged

      Todd, would you be able to locate and load a copy of this winning scratch off ticket.  It would be great for us LotteryPost members to peruse it and see if somewhere shows $5000, or something to that confusing effect.

      Fellow LP members, isn't it interesting that several lottery winning ticket holding folks continue to think it's okay to not pay required "Federal and State Income Taxes," on winnings, and therefore 'trade' to accept lesser payouts from their local, fellow law breakers?  Aren't both of these types of residents (not necessarily legal, bonafide citizens) guilty of major crimes?  Shouldn't BOTH larcenous parties be prosecuted with a couple years of community service (why should we mainly financially struggling income tax payers pay $50K each prisoner, annually to provide them daily: room, entertainment, exercise, meals, snacks, and courses?), monies returned to the lottery headquarters, and re-distributed via multiple yearly "2nd Chance Drawings" from submitted losing tickets of same online or scratch-off game?

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        Posted: November 14, 2012, 4:48 pm - IP Logged

        Do these scratch-off tickets get scanned upon sale or what? 

        Because if yes, then the Lottery Headquarters knows IMMEDIATELY by the sold ticket's scanned "bar code" that one of their winning tickets has been sold and at which lottery retailer (thus, in all fairness the lottery headquarters should announce and post end of the opportunity for first place prize wins and give notice that game tickets for lesser 2nd place prizes, etc. are only available for 30 more days (if still also applicable).  This should be performed by the State's Lottery Headquarters as soon as all of their game's first place tickets have been "SOLD" (not "claimed," via the official Lottery Headquarters' Claim Form)!

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        I Agree!

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          Do these scratch-off tickets get scanned upon sale or what? 

          Because if yes, then the Lottery Headquarters knows IMMEDIATELY by the sold ticket's scanned "bar code" that one of their winning tickets has been sold and at which lottery retailer (thus, in all fairness the lottery headquarters should announce and post end of the opportunity for first place prize wins and give notice that game tickets for lesser 2nd place prizes, etc. are only available for 30 more days (if still also applicable).  This should be performed by the State's Lottery Headquarters as soon as all of their game's first place tickets have been "SOLD" (not "claimed," via the official Lottery Headquarters' Claim Form)!

          Confused

          You assume the people running lotteries do thing better than the aveage person in this country who think doing things half a** is good enough.

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            You assume the people running lotteries do thing better than the aveage person in this country who think doing things half a** is good enough.

            True.......

            The only time the lottery KNOWS a winner is when it walks though the door and say, "Im a winner"

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              Posted: November 14, 2012, 5:30 pm - IP Logged

              I hope they like getting booty raped .

              Or you could say that you hope they get "shawshanked"!

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                Posted: November 14, 2012, 5:46 pm - IP Logged

                I think a lot of us knew this was a scam...although I thought they had killed the true winner.  I wonder what they would have done if the true winner had said, "no thanks, I want to show the ticket to my spouse", and left with the scratch off ticket?

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                  Posted: November 14, 2012, 5:50 pm - IP Logged

                  so if i decide to forge  winning scratch tickets, i can sell them to the local patels for $5k, just  pretend to be dumb?

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                    Posted: November 14, 2012, 6:13 pm - IP Logged

                    Letting them pay you $4 or $5 grand for a fake ticket that's supposedly worth much more would be pretty amusing, since if they go to the police they have to admit that they were trying to steal far more from you than you stole from them. Of course they could always just kill you or break your legs instead.


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                      Posted: November 14, 2012, 6:36 pm - IP Logged

                      I think a lot of us knew this was a scam...although I thought they had killed the true winner.  I wonder what they would have done if the true winner had said, "no thanks, I want to show the ticket to my spouse", and left with the scratch off ticket?

                       They probably would have tried to pull the old switcheroo, and substitute their winning ticket for another similar losing ticket, hoping they

                      wouldn't notice until they left the store.

                       

                      With that amount of greed they had, I can't imagine they would have just let the customer walk out with "their" $5 million ticket.

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                        Posted: November 14, 2012, 6:41 pm - IP Logged

                        You assume the people running lotteries do thing better than the aveage person in this country who think doing things half a** is good enough.

                        RJOh, no assuming has occurred.  My question hasn't been answered by a person in the know yet.  Perhaps it will be later today or tomorrow though ... I'll keep looking/lurking in.

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                          RJOh, no assuming has occurred.  My question hasn't been answered by a person in the know yet.  Perhaps it will be later today or tomorrow though ... I'll keep looking/lurking in.

                          Skeptical

                          I predict that you WONT get a photo of the winning ticket posted on LP.......

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                            Posted: November 14, 2012, 6:50 pm - IP Logged

                            so if i decide to forge  winning scratch tickets, i can sell them to the local patels for $5k, just  pretend to be dumb?

                            savagegoose, your $5K target fee might not interest any larcenous lottery retailers or their employees.  As, according to this article, the "going rate" was the far lesser $4K 6.7 years ago.  The rate may not have increased since then in this, ever continued, USA Greater Depression and high inflation time period.

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                              Posted: November 14, 2012, 6:52 pm - IP Logged

                              savagegoose, your $5K target fee might not interest any larcenous lottery retailers or their employees.  As, according to this article, the "going rate" was the far lesser $4K 6.7 years ago.  The rate may not have increased since then in this, ever continued, USA Greater Depression and high inflation time period.

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                              Very well said, HaveABallConehead

                                 
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