You last visited May 23, 2013, 6:54 am All times shown are Eastern Time (GMT-5:00) | Proposal to ban welfare recipients from playing lotteryNY United States Member #24178 October 16, 2005 2535 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 27, 2013, 5:30 pm - IP Logged | |
I would tell them(and anyone else in office) that when they start allowing people on welfare that 1)-allow them to buy things like toilet paper and soap,besides food,And,It is no ones buisness how they got the money(heck,how do they know it was not given to them,also,if they won,GOOD.Then they could get off welfare,they win a $million + amount,they do NOT deserve to be on welfare anymore.Otherwise,bug off. This moron politition is just(and anyone that agrees with the jerk) jealous. This politician may be a moron, but he's still smarter than you and plenty of other people who are opposed to the bill. It's realy simple. If you have money to play th elottery then you don't need help from the rest of us to buy food or pay your rent. If you ask us to help then you're telling us you don't have enough money to do it on your own. If you want our money we've got every right to tell you what you can spend it on. If you really need help you shoul dget it, but if you're a liar or a thief you deserve nothing. You and anyone else suggesting that people on welfare should be able to play because they might win and get off of welfare are especialy moronic. For somebody to win $1 requires that players spend $2. How stupid do you have to be to not undrstand that? | | |
NY United States Member #24178 October 16, 2005 2535 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 27, 2013, 5:32 pm - IP Logged | |
If this proposal passes and becomes law in NC it faces being struck down for Federal Constitutional reasons. That's a bit less likely than you winning PB or MM with one ticket. | | |
United States Member #4963 May 30, 2004 3871 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 27, 2013, 6:14 pm - IP Logged | |
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Orangeburg, SC United States Member #77690 July 15, 2009 4 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 27, 2013, 7:16 pm - IP Logged | |
SC checks to see if winner received any state/public assistance (welfare, food stamps) or has outstanding student loans and takes the money from the winnings before the winner is paid. NC could do the same thing. | | |
Boise, ID United States Member #94311 July 17, 2010 1053 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 27, 2013, 7:34 pm - IP Logged | |
SC checks to see if winner received any state/public assistance (welfare, food stamps) or has outstanding student loans and takes the money from the winnings before the winner is paid. NC could do the same thing. So does Idaho, and I'm pretty sure all other states do too. What NC is trying to do is to get extremely low income people to stop wasting the money they do have on lottery. The odds of winning or even breaking even are so bad, I have to agree that it's a waste of money. | | |
The KEY ingredient is Combos & Patterns Elgin, IL United States Member #69368 January 1, 2009 815 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 27, 2013, 8:05 pm - IP Logged | |
Let's look at the Bankruptcy in this proposed law. Are you going to tell me the Board of Directors @ GM would not be aloud to buy Lotto Tickets. Give me a BREAK. It will never fly. In fact, the State didn't bail them out, it was the Federal Government. And to my knowledge, the assistance from the US Government was paid back in full with interest. Besides that, if an individual files for Chp 13 for Reorganization. Neither the state nor the Federal governments gives them any money in the process. The individual has to pay back what is owing based on a payment plan to be determine & approved by the U S Bankruptcy Courts. The State has nothing to say about it as it is all handle thru U S Bankruptcy Courts. I guarantee there will be Law Suits filed if they try & I am sure the State will come up with the short end of the Stick. By Chris Paukert RSS feed Posted Jun 1st 2009 9:26AM
The die is cast: General Motors has filed for bankruptcy. As expected, the automotive giant filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection this morning in a New York court, listing $82 billion in assets and $172 billion in debts.
As we told you earlier, the century-old company will gain extensive assistance from the U.S. government, the former chipping in $30 billion in financing (GM has already received over $19 billion), that latter of which is expected to work extensively with the automaker as it goes through bankruptcy proceedings that will see the company's assets split into "Good GM" and "Bad GM," the latter of which will be liquidated.
According to the Detroit Free Press, the Obama administration has said that it will manage its holdings in GM (the government gets a 60% stake) in a "hands-off" non-interference fashion, with no White House employees serving on the board or being employed by the automaker. However, Capitol Hill will get the chance to influence company proceedings, as it will vote on core issues of governance that include "selecting the company's board of directors and major corporate transactions." While that may not equate to day-to-day management decisions, the government will certainly have the ability to influence company plans through appointments and such decision-making processes.
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United States Member #4963 May 30, 2004 3871 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 27, 2013, 8:08 pm - IP Logged | |
So does Idaho, and I'm pretty sure all other states do too. What NC is trying to do is to get extremely low income people to stop wasting the money they do have on lottery. The odds of winning or even breaking even are so bad, I have to agree that it's a waste of money. HOLK: PSYKO commend's all D states who check>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ................................................who RECHECK>>>>>>>>>??????????????????????????????????????????? but, "NC s trying to do is get EXTREMELY LOW INCOME people to STOP wasting money they do have/lottery"? HOLK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LOW INCOME people KNOW MORE bout manage'n dar MONEY than "YOU">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HIGH INCOME people will NEVER>>EVER>>>>>know MONEY!      | | |
The KEY ingredient is Combos & Patterns Elgin, IL United States Member #69368 January 1, 2009 815 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 27, 2013, 8:29 pm - IP Logged | |
And what about Bingo Halls in Wake County - Rep Paul Stam Will you also try to stop these people from playing bingo in your District. They might not like it. How many of these people voted for you????? How many of them are low income???? Why don't you visit thses locations & tell them your ideas in person. Bingo is gambling. Bingo Halls in Wake (North Carolina) Find more Bingo Hall listings in North Carolina | | |
Kentucky United States Member #33045 February 14, 2006 4181 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 27, 2013, 9:12 pm - IP Logged | |
This politician may be a moron, but he's still smarter than you and plenty of other people who are opposed to the bill. It's realy simple. If you have money to play th elottery then you don't need help from the rest of us to buy food or pay your rent. If you ask us to help then you're telling us you don't have enough money to do it on your own. If you want our money we've got every right to tell you what you can spend it on. If you really need help you shoul dget it, but if you're a liar or a thief you deserve nothing. You and anyone else suggesting that people on welfare should be able to play because they might win and get off of welfare are especialy moronic. For somebody to win $1 requires that players spend $2. How stupid do you have to be to not undrstand that? "If you have money to play th elottery then you don't need help from the rest of us to buy food or pay your rent." You can substitute the words, cigarettes, alcohol, cases of pop, bags of potato chips, etc. and most will agree with you. However, the legislation isn't just about what people on welfare buy, but "the vendor selling the lottery ticket would be penalized if they knew the person was on welfare or in bankruptcy." I've seen people pay for groceries using EBT cards that drive off in a newer model SUV and people paying cash drive off in beaters. The article doesn't say what the penalty will be, but to be on the safe side, many stores will stop selling lottery tickets. How can any clerk possibly know which of their lottery players are on welfare unless they use an EBT card? Will all the people in bankruptcy get a Scarlett "B" tattooed on their forehead? | | |
Ridge Runner - Oracle of the Appalachians Way back up in them dadgum hills, son! United States Member #74415 April 28, 2009 12446 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 27, 2013, 9:23 pm - IP Logged | |
ok, I can agree with you there, i say the same things about wine o's i see in front of the store asking for change,no way u gone tell me u hungry and need a lil change then go in the store to buy wine with my money when i dont even buy wine for myself. so i understand what you mean now Roger that on the winos too, raursby. | | |
United States Member #123644 February 25, 2012 156 Posts Offline
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First they'll ban Welfare then Unemployment recipients and then the following headlines will be a thing of the past. Laid off Oregon man wins $1 million Homeless man wins $20 million Man on last unemployment check wins $260 million Woman with last dollar buys MM ticket wins $60 million Jobless waitress 20 year old wins $11 million Out of work husband wins $50 million These headlines and more will become a thing of the past thus creating less hope in America and more suicide per year. The lottery is for everyone, one and all, no one excluded. Its sort of like God where everyone is welcome and no one is excluded. Thats what makes the lottery dream so thrilling and keeps it alive. Its part of the American dream. In otherwords they want to take away peoples dreams and hope. Instead of baning anyone simply because they lost their job due to whatever reason offer more help for addicted gamblers. But...Don't Change America. Its the country where anything is possible where even a homeless man or out of work husband can win the lottery! This country was built partially off the lottery. Imagine during the depression time. Imagine an out of work husband and his family then and he buys a lottery ticket and wins the jackpot. The lottery is as much a part of America as Homeless people and out of work people. Imagine a poor man who walks into the casino and plays his last dollar on the "Win the Jackpot for a dollar" and he wins and they say "O I'm sorry we dont have to pay YOU because your out of work or poor. What the hell are they thinkin???????????????????????????????? A ban..HOGWASH!!! Who came up with that disciminating idea?????!!!!!! | | |
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georgia United States Member #88967 March 26, 2010 9 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 28, 2013, 10:48 am - IP Logged | |
Only idiot's have nothing but time on their hands. With the amount of money lawmakers get why are they idiots. Oh that's why they don't want people on food stamps to play the lottery they are scared of having to many dummies in America.LOL | | |
5+1 Winner Arizona United States Member #116287 September 7, 2011 14762 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 28, 2013, 10:50 am - IP Logged | |
This politician may be a moron, but he's still smarter than you and plenty of other people who are opposed to the bill. It's realy simple. If you have money to play th elottery then you don't need help from the rest of us to buy food or pay your rent. If you ask us to help then you're telling us you don't have enough money to do it on your own. If you want our money we've got every right to tell you what you can spend it on. If you really need help you shoul dget it, but if you're a liar or a thief you deserve nothing. You and anyone else suggesting that people on welfare should be able to play because they might win and get off of welfare are especialy moronic. For somebody to win $1 requires that players spend $2. How stupid do you have to be to not undrstand that? Your post makes you sound like a moron your own self KY. If you want to start monitoring the activities of welfare recipients you should start by making sure they don't drink any alcoholic beverages or smoke anything and then move on to removing the more wholesome things like lottery tickets and movie butter popcorn. | | |
5+1 Winner Arizona United States Member #116287 September 7, 2011 14762 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 28, 2013, 10:53 am - IP Logged | |
"If you have money to play th elottery then you don't need help from the rest of us to buy food or pay your rent." You can substitute the words, cigarettes, alcohol, cases of pop, bags of potato chips, etc. and most will agree with you. However, the legislation isn't just about what people on welfare buy, but "the vendor selling the lottery ticket would be penalized if they knew the person was on welfare or in bankruptcy." I've seen people pay for groceries using EBT cards that drive off in a newer model SUV and people paying cash drive off in beaters. The article doesn't say what the penalty will be, but to be on the safe side, many stores will stop selling lottery tickets. How can any clerk possibly know which of their lottery players are on welfare unless they use an EBT card? Will all the people in bankruptcy get a Scarlett "B" tattooed on their forehead? I think a "666" would cover all the bases........ | | |
S.E.Iowa United States Member #120520 December 21, 2011 534 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 28, 2013, 12:41 pm - IP Logged | |
I think that the only thing this thread solved is the mystery about who is on welfare and doesn't mind riding the gravy train and those who work/worked for a living. When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President; I'm beginning to believe it. ~Clarence Darrow There ought to be one day - just one - when there is open season on senators. ~Will Rogers | | |
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