Includes video report
By Todd Northrop
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — At a press conference today, the Florida Lottery announced that the $590.5 million jackpot from the Powerball drawing held on May 18 was claimed by Gloria C. MacKenzie, 84, of Zephyrhills, Florida.
MacKenzie chose to receive her winnings in a one-time, lump-sum payment in the amount of $370,896,780.84.
She did not speak to a crowd of reporters outside lottery headquarters, leaving quickly in a silver Ford Focus with her son, Scott Mackenzie, and family friends. She was accompanied by two attorneys, who left in a separate car.
"We are all about making dreams come true here at the Florida Lottery, and this has been a time of great excitement for Ms. MacKenzie, the Zephyrhills community and the state of Florida," said Florida Lottery Secretary Cynthia O'Connell. "We're thrilled that a Florida resident has won this jackpot, and we wish her every happiness with her new fortune."
The jackpot-winning Powerball Quick Pick ticket was purchased at Publix, located at 7838 Gall Boulevard in Zephyrhills. The Florida Lottery retailer received a bonus incentive of $85,000 on Monday, May 20.
This series of jackpot rollovers generated more than $125 million in sales for the Florida Lottery, resulting in more than $50 million for Florida's Educational Enhancement Trust Fund (EETF).
Ms. MacKenzie provided the following statement to the Florida Lottery:
"Prior to the Lottery drawing, she and her son Scott had an agreement to split any proceeds with each other.
We bought the winning ticket as a single ticket even though we bought four other tickets before the drawing. While in line at Publix, another lottery player was kind enough to let me go ahead of them in line to purchase the winning Quick Pick ticket.
We are grateful for this blessing of winning the Florida Lottery Powerball jackpot and appreciate the interest of the public, state of Florida and the Lottery. We hope that everyone will give us an opportunity to maintain our privacy for our family's benefit. If you have any inquiries or questions, you may contact our representatives at the law firm of Brant, Abraham, Reiter, McCormick and Johnson or the financial planning firm of Madden Advisory Services, both of Jacksonville, Florida."
The Florida Lottery had scheduled this afternoon's news conference in Tallahassee, promising "big news" about the Powerball winner, after the winner stolled into Lottery headquarters around noon Wednesday.
MacKenzie opted to bypass the entire $590.5 million in 30 annual payments, and instead claimed the one-time lump sum option of $370 million, said Megan Dougherty, a spokesman for the Florida Lottery.
"They just walked right through the door," Dougherty said. "They didn't give anyone a heads-up. We were just as shocked as anyone else. They went up to our front desk to check in to see what they needed to do."
Dougherty said she had 60 days from the date of the drawing to claim a lump-sum prize. She could have waited until mid November to claim annual cash payments.
Despite her request for privacy, MacKenzie's name was revealed at the news conference because under state law, the winner cannot remain anonymous.
Lottery spokesman David Bishop said Mackenzie, her lawyers and financial adviser were very prepared when they arrived, spending about two hours going through the necessary paperwork.
"They had clearly been preparing for this. They took all this time to get everything in order," Bishop said.
Minutes after the announcement, a dozen reporters in Zephyrhills were camped outside Mackenzie's modest grey duplex, which backs up to a dirt alley and is across from a cow pasture.
Neighbors were surprised and said Mackenzie never mentioned her big win.
"She didn't say anything about it. She's so quiet and secluded. She's usually in the house," said neighbor James Hill. "I'm very happy for her. It couldn't have happened to a nicer person. She was always pleasant and smiling."
Another neighbor, Don Cecil, joked "I hope she gets a better place to live."
Mackenzie's neighbors offered few details about her life, including how long she'd lived there and whether she was married. They said she mostly kept to herself, but they saw her take short walks along the street and exchanged pleasantries with her.
Mackenzie's house, which was situated among mostly mobile home and pre-fabricated houses, had a chain link fence with grey shutters, a tin sheet roof and an old TV antenna.
VIDEO: Watch the press conference
Editor's Note: I apologize for the low volume level of the video. The video feed provided by the Florida Lottery had a barely-audible volume level. I tried boosting the volume as much as possible, but it is still low and you will need to raise the volume on your speakers.
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"While in line at Publix, another lottery player was kind enough to let me go ahead of them in line to purchase the winning Quick Pick ticket."
Man, I'm sure that person is mad.
no sound on the video is it my computer or other members has the same issue?
She lives in Zypherhills and had to get attorneys and finance people from Jax.
really ? no one closer ?
The editor apologized for the sound volume,
but it's YouTube, use the speaker symbol at the bottom of the video to try and max it.
Doesn't matter, the RNG is changing the QP numbers in milliseconds.
Either she wanted to avoid all the sharks lurking in her area or her son Scott lives in Jax. Glad she took her time as both her and her son are very fortunate.
We hope that everyone will give us an opportunity to maintain our privacy for our family's benefit.
beggers don't care about your privacy
this family will better know how to Hide
sense beggers are coming
"see Shows like TLC lottery changed my life" for proof of endless beggers calling/asking in person/letters etc
this family if it reallyed wanted privacy they should of got better lawyers
and should of abused ever loophole possible in public record laws
privacy for this family is just wishful thinkin with no action
may they enjoy the cash, i just find it silly they wanted privacy yet they went public" they had a choice folks, they just picked lazy option of going public, sense god forbid someone who wants privacy takes Real action to bypass lottery mandate of public winners
OK, either scenario makes sense.
Exactly. In fact, if the person did not let her pass them in line, there may have been no jackpot winner at all, because the combination on her ticket probably would not have been generated. Most random number generators are seeded from the current time in milleseconds.
She declined the press conference, and yet her pic. is still online already,
now people that only know her by sight also know her name.
spot on
sooner or later todd we will have billion jackpot
one of these monsters is gonna get pass 500/600m draw and go for the billion
how many years it take is anyone guest thro
but i think with MM higher odds coming late this year
we at lest have other 500/600 jackpot in 2014 at lest , if not a other this year.....
we had 2 in 2012, and 1 so far in 2013
cross selling change/ price changes to pb/and soon to be MM higher odds change
have all created perfact growth for these monsters to be new normal jackpots
i remb looking at that first 600m level MM jackpot and going wow , this is once in lifetime level.....
now with 3 going past us, , am like, this is the new normal "high" jackpots
i really do "hope" the winners mom/son spiting the jackpot enjoy the cash
i just fear they have no idea how bad beggers are...............
Yea, LOL, sometimes when I buy QP's I tell the cashier "don't press the button till I count to 3"
Not sure what you mean by "seeded"
Can you elaborate ?
More likely they have ties in Jax since both legal and financial companies are here.
They picked a good financial planning company. Madden Advisory Services here in Jax hosts a Saturday morning radio show called "Smart Money". I always try to catch that program and they actually offer great financial planning and investment advice...
we had 2 in 2012, and 1 so far in 2013
All because of Power Ball and their $2. ticket price.................
$590.5 Million
good idea skipping the press conference.
I know, you'll all think this is cruel. But be honest, you're thinking it too: "84 years old!? Are you kidding me?!" I won't even live that long, and I have played this lottery since its inception without ever winning. What a cruel joke. Time to quit flushing money down the toilet!
You must be feeling a sense of glee and euphoria knowing that she brought TWO attorneys with her?
are you sure that picture is Gloria C Mackenzie the Powerball winner? There are over 10 people on facebook named Gloria Mackenzie.
I can understand needing advice between cash or 30 year payments (not if I was 85), but what did the lawyers do?
We really need to hit a jackpot so we can find out why it's necessary to have one two lawyers present to validate a ticket.
No, how could I be ?
But if it's not her real picture I hope the same thing happens here when I win,
and every one in Jersey and elsewhere sees a picture of some other haymaker. LOL
I'm not on facebook.
Perhaps golf club lady will be happy to tell us WHY we need TWO attorneys to validate a large winner?
Not cruel, I'm sure she is happy for her children and grandchildren.
Love hearing it was a single quick pick that won. That's usually how I buy mine - one at a time. Even if I'm gonna get several tickets I almost always spread them out over a few days.
Absolutely. It'll soften the blow of her passing.
The local news just confirmed that the son lives in Jax on the Westside. A reporter was doing a live report from in front of his house...
The death of privacy !
a moment of silence please ?
I hate to break your bubble but I read somewhere that she had 6 tix.
Will someone explain to me ..........why she didn't have to be at the lottery
in Person ???? Florida isn't an Anonymous state ?????
Sent attorneys as legal representatives.
And she's not anonymous, we know her name.
Congratulation to the winners
She was at lottery headquarters with her son, legal, and finacial representatives to sign all the necessary paperwork. She chose not to be at the live press conference which she was not required to be at (and it was a smart move not being at the press conference)...
Congratulations to the MacKenzies! I have to wonder how I would react if I were 84 and won that kind of money. I'd probably have a heart attack and never get to see my winnings. I just hope with their decision to have "her" come forward, the son has provided around the clock security.
I'm not on facebook either. You can still search for names on FB without having your own account. I did a quick search of her name to confirm what you said about her picture being on the internet.
If I was ever lucky enough to win a jackpot and I knew my name was going to be made public, I'd start a facebook account and upload the picture of some random guy just to throw all the nosey reporters off the track.
I have to wonder how I would react if I was 84. LOL
When I win , I'll do exactly what she did ......mental note , bring lawyers , financial advisor ,
with me and run like heck after talking to the lottery officials .......
The people who lives in states where you've to announce your name , and anonymous do
exactly what she did .........I bet the media will be camped at her house ......
You would move out of your trailer with the tin roof and get a house. (I hope)
So far it looks like they are doing all the right things. I am sure her legal representatives have advised on security issues and have taken the necessary steps.
who cares if they are camped at her house? If she's smart, which I feel she is, she's most likely packed up and never going back there again. That's most likely why it took her two weeks to claim, she was moving her stuff out of there.
prolly will leave my house for a trailer.
Sounds like she should have done the "right things" a long time ago......
Does the son also live in a trailer with a tin roof?
Oh that right.... We all look forward to the day we move to an obama supplied trailer and never have to pay ANY bills EVER again............
OK, thanks Whitey,
I'll have to try it, did'nt know you could do anything w/out being a member.
Good idea, I'll use Ronnie316's pic so people will show up at his balcony.
I guess I was shocked because she didn't have to be at the conferences , I thought you had too .
Guess not . So after the lawyers , etcc all had the ticket check and spoke about other things .
They just hurried and rush out of the building .........I read years ago , the media will hurt you
down until they get an interview .......
I guess that comes w/ an obomaphone and other obamaappliances.
Congrats to gloria and her son on winning the powerball record jackpot. Now spend that money and have fun.-weshar75
Oh yes, Magic jack and Ronco are both slated for government acquisition.
This little baby can feed a family of 8 with ease.......
Congratulations Ms. McKinzie on your wonderful luck.I hope you live out your retirement years in the style you've always dreamed about.
no. The media will look for you for about one or two weeks then the story is too old and they move on to something more buzz worthy, like Kim Kardashian's next publicity stunt or Justin Bieber's latest single.
She won with a single QP ticket and Thrifty is still beside himself that he was NOT the winner.....
Winner of record $590.5 million Powerball lottery jackpot announced
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one star the article... what a poor sport. There's always another jackpot buddy.
Congratulations to her!!!! I'm glad to see she had her legal and financial reps with her. That was smart. Maybe a family member belongs to LP?
I seen a picture of the winner , there were media following her
all the way to a vehicle with lawyers , son , etccc ..
Congrat to the lottery winner ......
He or she is not mad, he or she is sick! Very ill. He/She probably isn't even eating. Now, if that person is rich then it doesn't matter, but if that person is poor then it's terrible, horrible news. The person is probably going to be bitter for the rest of his life like a family friend who didn't play her MM numbers years ago and on that night the numbers came out. A man my mother knew back in New Orleans also didn't play his PB numbers on the night they came out. On "Inside Edition" a woman played her numbers on Wednesday, but not on Saturday when the winnings numbers for the 590 mill came out. She would've been the second winner. These folks have worse luck than me. I cannot win anything beyond 100 dollars, but I never was close to winning millions. NEVER EVER.
My stepdad said the winner was probably going to be Tweety bird's grandmother.
The front page of MSN has a picture of her.
oops ... question on the ratings. I wanted to give it a 5 but accidentally hit 1. Any way to change the rating once we rate it?
How would you feel if the winner was 18 years old?
She looks like a spry 84 year old and I like her sunglasses!
No changes, but we understand. Besides Thrifty will enjoy your company.
Being 84, is she the oldest lottery winner?
If she is, she has broken 2 records. Largest jackpot for a single ticket and being the oldest winner.
Thanks for the reply
For the record, Duckman gives this a 5 star rating *****
She does not look happy to be in the spotlight.
I like her sunglasses too.
Only state I know of where you HAVE TO do the press conference is New York, no conference no money.
Maybe there are others states with the same rules.
I think the ones with the plastic nose and mustache would have worked much BETTER.
I think that's a good rule. Win big = Take the spot light.
that guy saying you want me to hold your purse,
I think I will have to go to Ancestry Dot Com to see if I am related to her in some way !!
Ok Ms. Mackenzie, here is the most expensive listing in Zephyrhills, FL. Go get yourself one, girl!!
4bd/5ba, 5,000 sq ft, 1.28 acres, built in 2008.
Price: $1.75M
All common random number generators are nothing but a complicated mathematical formula that appears to generate random numbers, but since it's a formula, it's really generating a long pattern of numbers that eventually repeats. That's why they are also called psuedo-random number generators — because they are not truly random.
The term "seed" refers to the starting number the formula uses to generate the random numbers. By using the computer's internal timeclock, which counts in milliseconds, it ensures that each time the RNG is run, it will use a different starting point in the formula, which helps to minimize the patterns in the numbers generated.
These kinds of RNGs are found is just about every programming language and in many consumer software packages, such as Microsoft Excel. They are good for generating random numbers very quickly, and when properly seeded, will generate a fairly random sequence of numbers.
On a positive note, perhaps he was wishing it had rolled over just one more time?
Does anyone else wonder if she will share with the person who gave up his place in line for her?
i think it was meant to be right place right time
everything happens for a reason
Dear Ms. Mackenzie, I was wondering if you'd like to help make my dream of a new white kitchen come true? Any donation would be appreciated! Thank you!
I'm only kidding but please feel free to private message me if you'd like.
God Bless her, may she enjoy!
The local news just had a segment about the son who lives here in Jax on the 10PM news. They had a live remote at the house and it looked like they were not the only news crew there. The house, modest and small, now has a cardboard "No Tresspassing" sign taped near the front door. The report indicated earlier that the lady who won would be staying with her son for a while. Neither was there and a family representative staying at the house had no comment (a wise move).
Great update, thanks duckman.
They didn't look very happy
Congratulations to the MacKenzie family. Safe travels in your new adventures.
I think it was a look more like get these crazy reporters out of our way.
Actually, I'm pretty sure they are concerned for Mrs MacKenzie and not over stressing her. I can't imagine how she kept her cool all these weeks since winning such a huge lottery.
I at at McKenzie's BBQ today. Does that qualify me as a distant relation? ... maybe not since the spelling is different.
What do you think they received in their "goody bag"??
Good question. Seems full of stuffs and there are more than one bag.
What's great about winning the lottery is that regular people can win and become bloody rich.
However they're thrust into the spotlight now and everyone knows them as suddenly rich people. I think I'd be alittle paranoid about that and that is what we may be witnessing on their faces.
just think she probably could never get any of her kids or family to do anything for her they probably treated her as if she was a burden
now they LOVE her
you sure it is BIG enough
Probably a bunch of plastic promo crap, like coffee cups, etc. Heck, whatever kind of junk they put in there, she can go out and buy in gold.
God Bless her.
I can see why. She got attacked by reporters and had to walk a quarter mile to her car. That video of her coming out of the LO is messed up. If i win, i'm gonna hire a bee keeper to follow me.
I hope whatever time she has left, that she has a BLAST...
What would you spend with that much money if you only have one month to live?
I have 1 suggestion, change your ph number to a 1 900 , pay per minute service
as to the 2 lawyeres, one is here lawyer, the other her sons, they claimed it as a shared win remember.
or 1 is the lotto win lawyer, other is living will lawyer.
This would be a nice upgrade. You go girl!
I would travel the world in style with family and friends. We would see all the famous attractions and eat in the finest restaurants. I would also buy jewels and beautiful clothes. Even though I can't take it with me, it would end up going to loved ones later anyways. Basically, I would be living the dream!!!
Just like that old show; I think it was called, Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. I would have "champagne wishes and caviar dreams!"
If you look carefully, she has a little grin on her face.
I can think of over 370 million reasons for her to be happy!
Gloria looks like a youthful, 84 year-old woman. I think she could pass for 75 easily. Good Luck Gloria!
Some of the lyrics from the Laura Branigan song, "Gloria," really ring true to this lottery jackpot story.
"Gloria, you're always on the run now...
I think you've got to slow down before you start to blow it
I think you're headed for a breakdown, so be careful not to show it...
Are the voices in your head calling, Gloria?
You don't have to answer
Leave them hangin' on the line, oh-oh-oh, calling Gloria
I think they got the alias (Gloria) that you've been living under (Gloria)"
SO AWESOME!!! Go Gloria!!! Party like its your Birthday!!!
I hope I don't have to be in my 80s to win the lottery. I want many, many years to enjoy the jackpot.
The first thing she should do, is find the individual that was kind enough to let her ahead of the line, and give that person 10%. Afterall, chivalry is not dead, at least not yet.
In the state of Florida, the winner's name is announced whether they want it announced or not so there is nothing her lawyers could have done about that.
So after they announced her name, she made a statement.
I'd like to know why the Florida lottery felt compelled to notify the media before they even finished the paperwork.
The story says they walked right in without calling ahead and obviously had been working on getting everything they needed because they were organized and had everything to complete the paperwork.
So they walked out a couple hours later and were bombarded by media? The lottery had to have called them. Seems they could have waited till after the final T was crossed and the poor woman had left to annouce her name.
New to posting...
After the mandatory 25% withholding for federal taxes...$94,724,195.21, Gloria and her family will receive $284,172,585.63.
I would give the clerk something too if i knew they were a decent person. He or she pressed the button at the right time.
Of course she will still owe the balance of her tax debt.
Welcome to the LP johnnycat
What the clerk did was a matter of daily routine, NOT an act of kindness. The clerk gets nothing.
But I digress...inititally, taxes of 25% are withheld...$94,724,195,21 :(
And on April 15, 2014...additional taxes of $55,318,930.00 will be due :(
So in the end, Gloria and her family will actually recieve a grand total of $228,853,655.63 :)
All in all...federal taxes are $150,043,125.21 :(
But, I doubt Gloria and her family will complain.
Of course...with any charitable donations, her tax burden would decrease!
Also, of the $55million + due next year, she could still earn monies
off of that 'till the time comes to write that massive check.
I know her attorney and financial advisors will be happy to do that for her :)
One other note...of the massive $150million + in taxes that will be going to the federal govenment, Gloria's taxes will only fund about 34 minutes of total spending :(
Chivalry is its own reward.
I think a depreciating asset may decrease the tax burden? What do you think?
maybe she will buy them all cars and houses
What do you think? of my comment
your funny
Whittaker, the other record PB winner did that for a waitress that served him coffee every morning on his way to work and she complained about having to pay higher real estate taxes.
Right, what a complainer......
The NY Post is reporting today that this is the house that Ms. Mackenzie lives in near Tampa:
The article says she arrived at the lottery office in a silver Ford Focus (year of car not mentioned).
File photo not her actual car.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/granny_zillions_eHtnxGjSX5WahrpbKOyFKK
I'm happy for her but i still wish it was ME!!!!!!
A pretty sleazy move on the part of the Florida lottery. They couldn't get her to attend the optional press conference, so they told the media what day she would be at the lottery office to fill out paper work, so the media can snap photos of her on the way to her car.
I can see other state lotteries doing this same tactic. If you ever win big and they tell you to come to the office to fill out paper work, be sure to bring a ski mask for the long walk back to your car.
This was probably the Florida Lottery's attempt at more publicity. They had not even left the offices, and there was a lot of media already. That isn't cool. But, to be fair, I think there was media camped out on the likely chance that the winner would come there to claim it. So, she probably should of had a disguise so her face would not be all over the news and internet. Good luck, Gloria!
Someone in this site suggested first that the lottery winner was a group of people and that it was impossible for one person to win it. Then he/she claimed that the Jackpot wouldn't increase to over 500 mil. Talk about irony. To those who play the lottery don't let those with their statistic intimidate you from playing or ruin your dream. Anything is possible even when the odds are against you.
Gloria is definitely on the run now (from the media and people who want her to share the wealth with them).
She should get an alias too.
Right on Morningstar! Welcome to LP!!!!
Congratulations to this jackpot winner. I like this largest jackpot in Powerball history to be claim by a single ticket.
For the current winner from Florida and the big winner last August from Michigan it was very easy to find their street address and view of their current home using free popular web sites. Do you think one of the State Lottery officials and/or the hired attorneys would think of this simple practical free limit on their privacy? It is safe to say the lotteries want to exploit the news conferences for free publicity. They are certainly willing to have people say whatever is on their minds if it brings free publicity, sell more ticket sales and provide bonuses to State Lottery officials. They are not in the protection of the winners privacy !!!
"We hope that everyone will give us an opportunity to maintain our privacy for our family's benefit."
Best of luck to the new winners! May the bounty bring much joy.
Yep, you said it gopher...
Nothing? Not even chicken wings or a box of donut holes.
She stepped forward and said it probably wasn't meant to be, but I agree with you. I'd be in shock. Perhaps if she can prove she is the person who was polite to the elderly winner (which won't be difficult, since each ticket has the exact time on it, there are surveillance cameras, etc.) the winner will share some of her money. I would. Even a mere 1% is over $2 million.
if getting let in line is going to cost me $2 mill ill wait.
The RNG changes the QP's in milliseconds, so the hesitation created when the cashier said she was a line jumper, and the other said it's OK,
means that the QP #s changed 100s of times in those few seconds of talk.
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True, I didn't think of the media camping out. There's probably only one office in the area where that big of a ticket could be claimed. Apologies to the Florida Lottery if they weren't the ones who notified them.
What happened to the 26 year old single mother?
Probably the woman who says she was the one who let the winner cut in line.
I agree! The store will get a bonus for selling the ticket. Leave it up to Publix to give the clerk a bonus.
This is another reason I believe you should always get your ducks in a row before claiming. And always find a place to lay low for a while until the frenzy wears down.
Looks like she was smart enough to do that. So good for her.
You could not be more wrong. She had no choice in the matter.
Except for 5 states (and Florida isn't one of them), you cannot anonymously claim your winnings.
If you want to get the money, you have to allow them to release your name.
In some states they even require you to give a press conference. Luckily Florida doesn't go that far. But her identity still has to be disclosed.
She did everything in her power to be as anonymous as she could. She's staying somewhere other than her home, she brought her lawyer with her. She declined to give a press conference and then declined to say anything to the reporters before hightailing it to her car and getting out of there as quickly as possible. Nothing about that is lazy. It was thought out, planned and executed well.
I really wish you people wouldn't make these comments without knowing what the legal requirements are. It's even on the website. So by all means, if you believe she had a choice in the matter, please provide us with the proof that a winner can forgo the publicizing of their name in the state of Florida and still get the money.
It's a good thing she didn't opt for annual installments lol
It was smart splitting the money with her son. If she just gave a huge chunk of it, the gift tax would be criminal.
that's the issue, u and everyone who thinks like u, make up the majority
so ofc in your world u live in, winners have to be public
but its Not true. just not true man
this winner can sure run and hide along with family, so am sure if they have a smart head on them, they be fine in long run
but i know legal world, i enjoy reading about topics such as legal abuse of laws topic's /loopholes etc both in books and news stories
for instant, Silent Trust Funds allow people to get federal/state aid, all with boldface legal lie of they need the money
sense they don't "know" how much they will ever get a month or whenever form the trust etc, its alright to take Financial Aid
no laws are being broken, its in your face loophole . courts can't do jack to stop these people form getting Aid or recover the money
i fear the day one of these leech's win the lottery and have brains to abuse that little loophole, lucky none of them are that SMART yet
these "public record laws" are a joke,and so are lotteries trying to force people to be public
middleman strategies can take care of any lottery deadset on public winners
nonething is stoping me form createing some type of corporations/trust whatever,and having a type of fake winner be the face.
your going to want proof so fine, https://www.lotterypost.com/news/239509
that link is about 3 man work serving weathy people money/ they setup a trust, they had to go public, due to so called record laws of that state
freedom act was done on trust in that state, so media/anyone could get trust papers and see who the "winners are" so they just put the 3 names out there to media in first place
not a issue, these 3 was not only people on trust who claimed it
the 4th member was a other trust, with only god knows who on it, with wording saying all money goes to this 4th trust atfer small time has passed
aka the 3 money managers are freaking middleman,and are the public "winners"
the media ,nor the lottery it self , didn't get 2nd trust papers , so no freedom of information request can get it
lottery was so scared of fact anyone could be on that 2nd trust, they requested and got 3 fakers to swear no laws are being broken
In the affidavit signed on Nov. 29, the winners say they are the only lifetime beneficiaries of a trust set up for the money.
"This affidavit is made to the Connecticut Lottery Corporation with the understanding that is it is relying thereon in determining that no ineligible person, as defined under all applicable law, rules and/or regulations, is a lifetime beneficiary of principal or income of said Trust," it reads.
in short, all they swear to was , someone who was not allowed to claim a jackpot was not among the winners
aka think lottery employees
lottery was that scared of how will hidden these real winners are they wanted a freaking affidavit , just to cover there own butts , saying will they "sweared" to us it was legit and on up and up , if it ever came out a lottry employee or someone won, they can't be blamed etc
also to any state that has balls to say a trust can't claim, watch a corporation claim
if winner has balls to hire lawfirm in corporation laws, watch it get claimed, the courts and federal laws are clear on this
corporations are in fact people in united states, they can own anything just like U or I can, even lottery tickets
i don't care what rules of any state lottery are, the surpme court and federal laws that over state laws have already spoken
trust is easy option, but i know for a fact a corporation can claim any lottery jackpot they wish, how much of fight states put up is debateable, sense i don't know ever state inside and out, but i know they lose in courts to any corporation, sense they are in fact PEOPLE to law eye
a lottery can say only people can claim, will corporations are people, deal with it buddy
also a corporation can be owned by anyone, god only knows who
just look at insane amount of corporations in delaware, my god its like black hole of who owns what
i can hide my ownership insane these corporations, no one has to ever know who any lottery winner is ever
okay irs will know, they don't play by any rules and will find u, but avoiding taxes is not my goal, avoiding the media and public finding out is
u and everyone on this forum for all i care can tell me some states u can't hide your name, i know better
"If you have any inquiries or questions, you may contact our representatives at the law firm of Brant, Abraham, Reiter, McCormick and Johnson or the financial planning firm of Madden Advisory Services, both of Jacksonville, Florida."
I wonder how much that costs?
"This is another reason I believe you should always get your ducks in a row before claiming."
It should say "I believe I should" because lining ducks in row depends on the individual circumstances of each individual jackpot winner.
I can see why Rdgrnr cringes every time he reads "ducks in a row".
She and her son had a verbal agreement to split any winnings before the drawing. Didn't you notice the lawyer present was from where the son lived?
It's been so long since I went duck hunting, I can't remember, do you shoot the rear duck or the front one, first?
also i just like add something form my last post
there is always the nuclear option to claim any jackpot on earth anonymously
no trust/no nonething , no loopholes, just a living human who not u, claims IT , who not u
just a other person claims it for u, that's all, they get all media and heat, u get the money
i always say trust/other path sense must people don't have legal understanding what to do before u even try this nuclear option
u say, but irs gift tax laws, o god
the ignorance of that is strong with people
look irs is easy to handle, just A general partnership agreement before hand, handles it
i have freedom in this nation, to partnership with anyone, i can write any kind of agreement
yet it needs to be done right or u screw your self out of millions as other walks off with the money.
this is how i would do it, lets just say i won 100 million cash powerball jackpot,in any state like flordia/ca/newyork etc that force's winner out
sense u people need to understand how to do it right i tell u how i would walk away with millions and no one knows.
step 1, call a lawyer, become a cilent, why is simple . Attorney–client privilege
the amount of protection i get form that legal gem is just nice to have if somehow i get in court.............................
now i offer this lawyer a sweet deal "i pick form business/corporate law lawyers i can find in my state"
i offer him a legal business partnetship, where we in business as a team
just to be nice, sense he have to deal with beggers none stop. i give him 1% or 1 million bucks of money
, am sure for that money amount he take me up on my offer
its simple business agreement, i even video tape whole Thing as i setup it up, for my own protection, with some family witness etc
plus he have hes own witness etc,
why a lawyer besides the Attorney–client privilege?, i know! , hes whole adult life have been keeping other people keeping secrets and protecting them
hes the prefact type of fake winner i need!
a god fearing/ with family of hes own settled down etc , this man not going to bolt with money.............
,and hes legal lawyer career spotless, i doubt must people would brother even try to find such a person ........
screw finding someone off the street to just claim it for me, am not a idiot folks
anyway, the lawyer will just claim it for him self, no trust, no nonething, lottery will give it him
the lottery will show him off, i don't care if newyork lottery puts him on TV and says here the winner folks, i be watchin and crying with joy
at the fools
public will all think he won.
ofc i get 99% of money atfer taxes, and when irs shows up, going u just given this dude all the money, wtf?
we show the papers of the business, with him handleing the investment i put in to fund our business and me being type of silent partner etc,
in legal world, we just bypassed the gift tax, and i got away with legal bypass of ever public record law on lottery
not only have i just cheated the lottery and public out of knowing who really won, i would take great joy in doing so
but irs got its money first time it taxed the winnings ,and stupid gift tax does not apply to business partnership etc
its so simple and effective, that's why its the nuclear option to claim any jackpot anonymously
ofc i don't trust must winners to do this right and worry they may get scammed ,guy claiming walks off with all money etc, hance why insist on the trust/other legal routes
i have brains to pull it off, and anyone could pull it off, if they want to right business lawyer who knows what hes doing
i don't care if ever single politicians who controls state laws, demand a public winner,and write it in law
i can bypass any stupid politicians any day of week brother
the politicians in flordia can kiss my butt, i bypass and walk all over rules saying they have to know who"I AM"
if i won in that state or any state
your kidding i can't believe you had left anything out
showme;
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CRAP in UR >>>>>>>>FACE & OUTTA D>>>>>>state of FLORDIA
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Yes!
There was just an article about a local company who provides financial and law services to people worth 20 - 500 million. Much more than 500 million, and I guess you should have your own team. Anyway, they said they charge around 1% for the smaller portfolios, less for the larger ones.
Thanks, I'm really not interested in reading War & Peace. What I do know is I'm not taking legal advice from someone who isn't a lawyer and who has some kind of virulent hatred towards English grammar.
Plus, what I also know is that a lottery winner tried doing this little scheme already (do you really think that you can come up with a scenario that the IRS hasn't already considered)? A legal entity was created as a way to bypass the gift tax, the IRS came down on her like a ton of bricks. Plus, not only did she have to fork over the gift tax amount, they levied on her additional fees and penalties.
So good luck to you.
The IRS has already publicly stated that they red flag the tax returns of all JP winners. Try your trick and go ahead believing after they scour your financial data with a fine tooth comb, you'll actually get away with it.
I think this is one of the best parts of their whole plan:
"They just walked right through the door," Dougherty said. "They didn't give anyone a heads-up. We were just as shocked as anyone else. They went up to our front desk to check in to see what they needed to do."
They didn't give the lottery folks a chance to spring the media on them when they arrived. The winner & her entourage show up at the counter, fill out their paperwork and leave. That's as minimal as you can get it if you can't claim anonymous.
so u admit to not even reading my reply to you?
I make it a general rule not to talk reply to anything unless I’ve read the entire post
u sir seem to lack this much needed trait
i guest what they say about ignorance is bliss is correct
,first u doubt claiming a jackpot anonymously, and tell me am wrong! so i write 2 very long detailed posts saying how
and without admiting your wrong, u are btw
then u have balls to say a business partnership is subject to gift tax
once again your wrong
a business partner ship is not subject to gift tax, maybe if u are moron at writing stuff legal stuff your self , u could find a way to make it so, but not in general sense
what u just claimed is 100000s of business partnerships right now are subject to a tax they not paying for over decade now?
my god man, it takes a lot to make me dumb founded, but u sir have done it
even in my the how to, i said go to freaking business lawyer!, a business lawyer who writes this stuff for a living! to do it with.
just to avoid the finding somone off the street, but sense u don't read my reply's i guest am just talking to other folks who read this
look everyone don't listin to teddi, get a lawyer, best ones u can find, go to 2 or more if u have to
if u win a jackpot, bring up and talk about all options, u can claim anonymously in any state
u may have to use ever brain cell in you and loophole possible, but its possible/ and gift taxes are not issue, don't listin to these folks
gift tax is evil beyond evil, its pure double tax,and theft
irs will get the full share of 39.6% on millions of your jackpot money! they don't have any right to penny more
any trust/corporations/ business partnership can sidestep step it
for love of god folks if win the lottery and live in state like newyork/flordia/ca, u can be anonymously
this guy doubts me,and does not even brother to read my post, the ignorance is strong with that one
i even says go to lawyers for help
and then says,
I'm not taking legal advice from someone who isn't a lawyer
the irony is i DID say go to lawyer
Oh, I read it alright. I didn't say I never read it, I said I'm not interested in reading your longwinded lunacy.
You don't have a loophole, you have a scheme, a scheme with which you cannot win with. It's just a nonsensical headache.
You are making nothing but a bunch of inane ramblings of something you BELIEVE will actually work when it won't. And for someone with no legal training, no financial advisor training, you think just because you say it then it must be true. NEWSFLAsH...it isn't. And the woman who tried to do this, lost her case and she had to pay, and pay big.
So, like I said, go ahead and hold on to your delusions. I'll be back here laughing when they take your money. You believe you are smarter than the actual lawyers, the laws of the IRS and the state, and the lawyers for the lottery, by all means, keep your beliefs and do it.
You think that just because you keep going on and on and on and on, that it makes what you say more believable. It doesn't. You are adamantly claiming a scheme will work when it's already been tried and lost. So there's nothing more you can say. You can pound your chest and keep insisting you are right, don't pay the taxes levied on you when you do try it and just land your butt in jail. That's fine with me too.
But at least try to get it through your head that you are not original. What you're claiming isn't some epiphany of great genius. It's been done and it failed. The End. There's nothing more straghtforward than that.
Gloria and her family are going to have a great time. I hope this lottery win brings her much happiness. She can make many dreams come true. I hope I also can experience a lottery windfall like that.
Yep. They had their ducks in a row.
Anyways, get in; get out. That's about as smooth as I've seen a winner come forward. Too bad the commission dropped a dime on them to the media before the ink dried. Only thing they could have done differently was showed up wearing these:
"In some states they even require you to give a press conference."
Me, from behind a face that has been professionally made up by an expert in the theatre arts to look nothing like the real me, "Welcome, journalist cretins. Every thing I say to you from here on out will be a lie. First question, please."
Welp, there's 4 guys that are never gonna get another date, lol.
your funny
MY EYES!!! MY EYES!!!!
A little warning next time. LOL
Love the opening statement. Will have to use that.
Here's the thing, if I'm going to be that loaded, then forget about theater make up. I want one of those Mission Impossible masks with the different voice and everything. And I'd pick some famous actress to look like.
If the reporters want to go through all the trouble of finding a real pic of me somewhere then whatever. But by the time they do, I'll be on a beach in Tahiti where no one would know anyway. By the time I'm back in the states, they'd have moved on to some newer winner and not be bothering with me.
What cities makes you've a new conference ?
MacKenzie chose to receive her winnings in a one-time, lump-sum payment in the amount of $370,896,780.84.
After taxes, MacKenzie would get about 224 million dollars which is about 38% of the 590.5 million dollars annuity prize.