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Undercover officers catch store clerks keeping winning lottery tickets

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gocart1's avatar - lighthouse
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Posted: May 1, 2014, 10:42 am - IP Logged

Yes and it needs to be in the news until all of the states start doing something about it.

I Agree!.....Thanks  Roger

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    Posted: May 1, 2014, 7:46 pm - IP Logged

    Dont know why New York State will not do this

    With most states that don't do it, like Tennessee, it's probably because people would go into shock if they knew how much money was being stolen from innocent, trusting lottery players by corrupt, virtual agents of their State Lottery. They'd rather let the corruption and theft continue than allow their incompetence and long-term lack of security measures and protocols to be put on display.

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      Posted: May 1, 2014, 10:16 pm - IP Logged

      With most states that don't do it, like Tennessee, it's probably because people would go into shock if they knew how much money was being stolen from innocent, trusting lottery players by corrupt, virtual agents of their State Lottery. They'd rather let the corruption and theft continue than allow their incompetence and long-term lack of security measures and protocols to be put on display.

      Plus it would require money spent by the TNEL and they only like collecting $ , not spending/reinvesting it

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        Posted: May 1, 2014, 11:02 pm - IP Logged

        Dont know why New York State will not do this

        A few years ago, I was watching an undercover sting in Southern California on one of those investigative news program.  I wish I remember which show it was.  Well, anyways, they catch crooked owners, employees, etc. in California, but they also went on to try and do the same thing in New York.  They were stonewalled by the NY Lottery.  I recall they even put warnings out to their retailers that they may be visited by the reporter.  I didn't understand why such the resistance by NY.  I would have thought they would welcome the sting operation with open arms, or at least in a minimum comment on the reasons why not.  They came across as brash with something to hide.

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          Posted: May 2, 2014, 8:49 am - IP Logged

          A few years ago, I was watching an undercover sting in Southern California on one of those investigative news program.  I wish I remember which show it was.  Well, anyways, they catch crooked owners, employees, etc. in California, but they also went on to try and do the same thing in New York.  They were stonewalled by the NY Lottery.  I recall they even put warnings out to their retailers that they may be visited by the reporter.  I didn't understand why such the resistance by NY.  I would have thought they would welcome the sting operation with open arms, or at least in a minimum comment on the reasons why not.  They came across as brash with something to hide.

          A few years ago, I was watching an undercover sting in Southern California on one of those investigative news program.  I wish I remember which show it was.

          I think you're referring to the Chris Hansen "Dateline to catch a predator" guy series on crooked lottery clerks in Cali:

          http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chris+hansen+lotto+clerks

          Very informative series. P3 and P4 have some juicy parts.

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            Posted: May 2, 2014, 10:53 pm - IP Logged

            A few years ago, I was watching an undercover sting in Southern California on one of those investigative news program.  I wish I remember which show it was.  Well, anyways, they catch crooked owners, employees, etc. in California, but they also went on to try and do the same thing in New York.  They were stonewalled by the NY Lottery.  I recall they even put warnings out to their retailers that they may be visited by the reporter.  I didn't understand why such the resistance by NY.  I would have thought they would welcome the sting operation with open arms, or at least in a minimum comment on the reasons why not.  They came across as brash with something to hide.

            I only went to a lottery headquarters once to cash a ticket, but cashed thousands of tickets at retailers. If in fact the majority of retailers or a very large percentage are thieves, the state lotteries must find other ways for players to buy and cash tickets.

            "I recall they even put warnings out to their retailers that they may be visited by the reporter."

            When NC had their sting operation, calls were probably made to other retailers. Even if a clerk kept a winning ticket to cash in later, they probably destroyed it after hearing about the sting. The monitors in KY were showing the value of winning tickets along with a "Woo Hoo", but some of the clerks figured out how to by-pass the annoying sound and apparently where it should the value of the ticket. Not visibly seeing the value of any ticket is where the problem starts.

            The stings caught a few thieves, the real thieves aren't waiting for careless costumers with tickets worth over $600, but beating players out of under $100.

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              Posted: May 2, 2014, 11:17 pm - IP Logged

              Where I live in New York in many of the stores have lottery scanners that don't work . I had my own experience several times where I had to have the clerk scan the tickets and have been cheated out of my money. I know one store in particular that I no longer frequent because I have  seen the clerk scan the tickets because the scanner is broken and say you have a $50 winner they will tell you that you have a $40 winner and keep your $10 it's up to you to know how much you won before giving the clerks your ticket  and you have to catch them in the act . Who I feel bad for are all the elderly people who go in there because they and they cheat them out of their money and they don't realize it.  When I saw 5 or six people on different occasions say hey I won 100 dollars not 75 , or 250 Not 200,etc it annoyed me and upset me ... I already reported another store like this by me and nothing was done . All ny seems to arrest the store owners by me for is for selling liquor or tobacco to underage , I think stealing is just as bad !!!!  Oh I must mention the cash register is blocked so when the tickets are scanned you cannot see the amount , so wrong ;(((( ..there are food items in front of it and in ither store clerk has it turned around .

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                Posted: May 2, 2014, 11:41 pm - IP Logged

                I'm lucky the clerks are honest where I shop.  Tonight I made out two play slips and brought $10 worth of MM tickets and received 4 free QP MM tickets.  I had read on the website I would get a free ticket with every $2 wager but I thought they were talking about when the magaplier was played.  Had I known it applied for two $1 wager too I would have only played four blocks per play slip and got 5 free QP instead.  On each of my $5 tickets it said congratulation you have won a free ticket so if the clerk had kept one of the tickets I wouldn't have known I had been cheated.  Ohio could have done a better job of explaining how its promotion worked instead of depending on the clerks to do the right thing.

                * you don't need more tickets, just the right ticket * 
                * your best chance at winning a lottery jackpot is to buy a ticket * 
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                  Posted: May 7, 2014, 10:10 am - IP Logged

                  Great story: THIS SHOULD BE CALLED THE WILLIS WILLIS LAW.

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                    Posted: May 8, 2014, 3:15 am - IP Logged

                    here the min wage is $16 , and i think the clerks are more bothered about hAVING THEIR PH CALLS INTERUPTED, THAN  STEALING FROM YOU.

                    2014 winnings

                    JAN -$48.50;  FEB  -$77.5; MAR -$18.05;  APR -$96.05 MAY -$61.10; JUN $-85; JUL $-88.9;AUG -$144.10

                    yearly grand totalspent = 938.05won= 318.8-$619.25


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                      Posted: May 8, 2014, 12:55 pm - IP Logged

                      here the min wage is $16 , and i think the clerks are more bothered about hAVING THEIR PH CALLS INTERUPTED, THAN  STEALING FROM YOU.

                      It's a HUGE problem here.

                      And the lotteries don't even want to address it.

                      And that's a cryin' shame.

                      But there are players here that say that it's just stupid people getting ripped off and if they don't like it they shouldn't play.

                      But I think that's wrong.

                      If a certain segment of players has to accept getting ripped off for their legitimate winnings because they happen to be a little less intelligent or a little more trusting than the rest of us, then the whole industry is corrupt and should close up shop.

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                        Posted: May 8, 2014, 6:36 pm - IP Logged

                        It's a HUGE problem here.

                        And the lotteries don't even want to address it.

                        And that's a cryin' shame.

                        But there are players here that say that it's just stupid people getting ripped off and if they don't like it they shouldn't play.

                        But I think that's wrong.

                        If a certain segment of players has to accept getting ripped off for their legitimate winnings because they happen to be a little less intelligent or a little more trusting than the rest of us, then the whole industry is corrupt and should close up shop.

                        macdonalds and burger king have managed  to idiot proof food production. you would think lotteries could also manage  it for  prize collection.
                        even tho i now have an automated  game, where the tickets are checked and played online, i dont trust the commission to ge4t it right and still check the numbers!

                         

                        had my 1st prize of $32.90 the saturday just gone. and it all went as advertised

                         

                        You are right of course, they are some well paid people in the commission, they  should be able to develop a  crook proof  system. although well paid doesn't   translate to  smart

                        2014 winnings

                        JAN -$48.50;  FEB  -$77.5; MAR -$18.05;  APR -$96.05 MAY -$61.10; JUN $-85; JUL $-88.9;AUG -$144.10

                        yearly grand totalspent = 938.05won= 318.8-$619.25


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                          Posted: May 9, 2014, 1:19 pm - IP Logged

                          They should also make sure their giving real money back. You can't even trust money from a bank anymore.