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New multi-state lottery game coming to NY, NJ

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Posted: May 31, 2014, 10:53 pm - IP Logged

If NY's lottery tentacles could reach the West Coast l would be all for this game IF only California could rid itself of that Infernal game called " Daily Derby" and replace it with this one.

Now, that the Daily Derby Grand Prize was won tonight, I agree, get rid of Daily Derby.

For $2, I also wouldn't mind seeing Missouri's new $250K Triple Play be a replacement for Daily Derby.

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    Posted: June 4, 2014, 10:07 pm - IP Logged

    Still not seeing anything about the new game on either lottery's web site.  Given that tickets for the first draw go on sale in a little over a week, don't you think they'd want to start getting the word out?


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      Still not seeing anything about the new game on either lottery's web site.  Given that tickets for the first draw go on sale in a little over a week, don't you think they'd want to start getting the word out?

      Now why would you think they would want to go and actually  to do their jobs?

      They better not have any cute bunny commercials, or I am going to barf. Puke


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        Posted: June 4, 2014, 10:13 pm - IP Logged

        Btw, I think my math may have been incorrect again in one of my previous posts.

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          Posted: June 12, 2014, 6:37 pm - IP Logged

          Nice going NJ/NY.  $1,000 a day for life, you will never go broke unless you are a real dumba$$. The only problem is that after taxes, it won't be what it's cracked up to be.  $1,000 a day for life after taxes, now that's more like it.

          I would like to see how many players are going to win the top prizes.

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            I would like to see how many players are going to win the top prizes.

            I hope there are regular winners of the top prizes.  I know Sweet Million was not won regularly and it appears that New England's Lucky For Life is likewise not won regularly, but I think it'll be different with Cash4Life.  If anything else, we know that NY's Win For Life scratcher series is popular, so my guess is that popularity will transfer over to the draw game.

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              Posted: June 12, 2014, 8:42 pm - IP Logged

              The NY Lottery web site still has nothing except for a "starting June 13" banner, but the NJ Lottery does have a page up with the rules.  I found the caveats about the prize liability interesting:

               

              Cash Options

              Prize Level 1 (Jackpot) Lump Sum Cash Option:

              1 Winner - Prize Level 1 (Jackpot) – Seven Million Dollars ($7,000,000)

              2 to 14 Winners - Seven Million Dollars ($7,000,000), divided by the number of winning tickets sold

              Prize Level 2 Lump Sum Cash Option:

              One Million Dollars ($1,000,000) unless a prize liability limitation is reached (see below)

              Prize Liability Limitations 

              Prize Level 1 (Jackpot) – For any drawing, if there is more than one (1) winning Jackpot ticket sold, then the Jackpot amount  for each winning ticket shall be $7 million dollars divided by the number of winning tickets sold.

              Prize Level 2 – For any drawing, the prize liability limitation is the available prize pool plus $5 million dollars.

               

              Also, at least in New Jersey, you have to declare ahead of time whether you want the lump sum or the annuity.  I hope we don't have to do that in NY (though I'll find out tomorrow when I go to buy a ticket!).


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                Posted: June 12, 2014, 9:28 pm - IP Logged

                The NY Lottery web site still has nothing except for a "starting June 13" banner, but the NJ Lottery does have a page up with the rules.  I found the caveats about the prize liability interesting:

                 

                Cash Options

                Prize Level 1 (Jackpot) Lump Sum Cash Option:

                1 Winner - Prize Level 1 (Jackpot) – Seven Million Dollars ($7,000,000)

                2 to 14 Winners - Seven Million Dollars ($7,000,000), divided by the number of winning tickets sold

                Prize Level 2 Lump Sum Cash Option:

                One Million Dollars ($1,000,000) unless a prize liability limitation is reached (see below)

                Prize Liability Limitations 

                Prize Level 1 (Jackpot) – For any drawing, if there is more than one (1) winning Jackpot ticket sold, then the Jackpot amount  for each winning ticket shall be $7 million dollars divided by the number of winning tickets sold.

                Prize Level 2 – For any drawing, the prize liability limitation is the available prize pool plus $5 million dollars.

                 

                Also, at least in New Jersey, you have to declare ahead of time whether you want the lump sum or the annuity.  I hope we don't have to do that in NY (though I'll find out tomorrow when I go to buy a ticket!).

                this game is not going to take off.

                for one, there are have not been any decapitated bunny commercials.

                No flyers, no signs.

                I dont even think the cards are out. 

                This one is going to slip under the radar. 

                All the poor stupid kids are going to get dumber and poorer.

                BTW, I thought the prize was $1000 dollars a day for life?

                So consider I live 50 more years.

                365000 x 50 = 18 million or so.

                divided by 2.  I guess thats sounds mathy ok.

                I dont know.  I think I will become a born again latter day mormon moonie and go back to church to play bingo.

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                  Posted: June 14, 2014, 9:50 am - IP Logged

                   Bought a Cash 4 Life on Friday. What a day to start a New Game on Friday the 13. 

                  Who is afraid of Friday the 13th with a full moon to boot? Triskaidekaphobia ?

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                    this game is not going to take off.

                    for one, there are have not been any decapitated bunny commercials.

                    No flyers, no signs.

                    I dont even think the cards are out. 

                    This one is going to slip under the radar. 

                    All the poor stupid kids are going to get dumber and poorer.

                    BTW, I thought the prize was $1000 dollars a day for life?

                    So consider I live 50 more years.

                    365000 x 50 = 18 million or so.

                    divided by 2.  I guess thats sounds mathy ok.

                    I dont know.  I think I will become a born again latter day mormon moonie and go back to church to play bingo.

                    No flyers, no signs.

                    I haven't seen any physical ads, but they've added it to the sequence of ads that roll by on the screens by the terminals.

                    I dont even think the cards are out. 

                    The store where I normally buy my tickets has them.  I didn't make it there yesterday so I don't know if they were out on Day One, but they were out today.

                    BTW, I thought the prize was $1000 dollars a day for life?

                    It is.  The info I posted pertains to the lump sum option (which, I feel, defeats the purpose of a "win for life" game, but to each his own).  The jackpot is $1K a day for life or $7M lump sum.  The second prize is $1K a week for life or $1M lump sum.  (Both cash values work out to a little over 19 years of payments.)  And both top prizes, regardless of whether the winners opt for the weekly/monthly payments or the lump sum, will be split up if there are multiple winners.

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                      Posted: June 15, 2014, 1:18 am - IP Logged

                      The NY Lottery web site still has nothing except for a "starting June 13" banner, but the NJ Lottery does have a page up with the rules.  I found the caveats about the prize liability interesting:

                       

                      Cash Options

                      Prize Level 1 (Jackpot) Lump Sum Cash Option:

                      1 Winner - Prize Level 1 (Jackpot) – Seven Million Dollars ($7,000,000)

                      2 to 14 Winners - Seven Million Dollars ($7,000,000), divided by the number of winning tickets sold

                      Prize Level 2 Lump Sum Cash Option:

                      One Million Dollars ($1,000,000) unless a prize liability limitation is reached (see below)

                      Prize Liability Limitations 

                      Prize Level 1 (Jackpot) – For any drawing, if there is more than one (1) winning Jackpot ticket sold, then the Jackpot amount  for each winning ticket shall be $7 million dollars divided by the number of winning tickets sold.

                      Prize Level 2 – For any drawing, the prize liability limitation is the available prize pool plus $5 million dollars.

                       

                      Also, at least in New Jersey, you have to declare ahead of time whether you want the lump sum or the annuity.  I hope we don't have to do that in NY (though I'll find out tomorrow when I go to buy a ticket!).

                      For a 2 state game with 1 in 21.8 million and 1 in 7.3 million odds the payout limitations probably aren't very important.  Even if there's nothing in the prize pool they can still pay five 2nd place winners, and chances of multiple  1st place winners will be pretty low except for the occasional fluke with an odd set of winning numbers. I don't know about NJ games, but considering the  performance of Sweet Millions and NY Lotto, I don't see them selling enough tickets to make it likely that there will be winners in most drawings.

                      What I do see is a fair chance to finally kill Lotto. If nobody won tonight the lump sum value of the next drawing will be about $5.5 million. It will cost an extra dollar, but the new game will offer the same chance of a lump sum that's $1.5 million higher, and half the chance for a 2nd place prize that's about 20 times as much. When they get a winner and the cash jackpot drops back to $1.2 million or so I'd guess that people will jump ship in a big way.

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                        Posted: June 15, 2014, 2:10 pm - IP Logged

                        I hope there are regular winners of the top prizes.  I know Sweet Million was not won regularly and it appears that New England's Lucky For Life is likewise not won regularly, but I think it'll be different with Cash4Life.  If anything else, we know that NY's Win For Life scratcher series is popular, so my guess is that popularity will transfer over to the draw game.

                        Lottery players money will transfer slowly to Cash 4Life at $2 per ticket.

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                           Bought a Cash 4 Life on Friday. What a day to start a New Game on Friday the 13. 

                          Who is afraid of Friday the 13th with a full moon to boot? Triskaidekaphobia ?

                          13 is a lucky number in some cultures around the world.

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                            Posted: June 15, 2014, 2:14 pm - IP Logged

                            No flyers, no signs.

                            I haven't seen any physical ads, but they've added it to the sequence of ads that roll by on the screens by the terminals.

                            I dont even think the cards are out. 

                            The store where I normally buy my tickets has them.  I didn't make it there yesterday so I don't know if they were out on Day One, but they were out today.

                            BTW, I thought the prize was $1000 dollars a day for life?

                            It is.  The info I posted pertains to the lump sum option (which, I feel, defeats the purpose of a "win for life" game, but to each his own).  The jackpot is $1K a day for life or $7M lump sum.  The second prize is $1K a week for life or $1M lump sum.  (Both cash values work out to a little over 19 years of payments.)  And both top prizes, regardless of whether the winners opt for the weekly/monthly payments or the lump sum, will be split up if there are multiple winners.

                            Losing agony will be short with Cash 4Life since drawings will be held at 9PM.

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                              Posted: June 15, 2014, 2:16 pm - IP Logged

                              For a 2 state game with 1 in 21.8 million and 1 in 7.3 million odds the payout limitations probably aren't very important.  Even if there's nothing in the prize pool they can still pay five 2nd place winners, and chances of multiple  1st place winners will be pretty low except for the occasional fluke with an odd set of winning numbers. I don't know about NJ games, but considering the  performance of Sweet Millions and NY Lotto, I don't see them selling enough tickets to make it likely that there will be winners in most drawings.

                              What I do see is a fair chance to finally kill Lotto. If nobody won tonight the lump sum value of the next drawing will be about $5.5 million. It will cost an extra dollar, but the new game will offer the same chance of a lump sum that's $1.5 million higher, and half the chance for a 2nd place prize that's about 20 times as much. When they get a winner and the cash jackpot drops back to $1.2 million or so I'd guess that people will jump ship in a big way.

                              It is hard to beat 2 New York Lotto combinations for $1.