Legislative committee to discuss killing the Texas Lottery

Jul 25, 2014, 11:23 am (63 comments)

Texas Lottery

AUSTIN, Tx. — The Texas Legislature's discussions about eliminating the state lottery are moving forward.

House Speaker Joe Straus on Thursday announced his appointments to the Legislative Committee to Review the Texas Lottery and Texas Lottery Commission, a new panel charged with studying the ramifications of ending the lottery, along with examining charitable bingo and how its revenue is distributed.

The appointees include three Harris County lawmakers, one of whom is a vocal lottery critic.

Houston Democrat Garnet Coleman has accused the lottery commission of a cozy relationship with the game operator and criticized how most players are poor. He will be joined by Senfronia Thompson, D-Houston; Rick Miller, R-Sugar Land; Giovanni Capriglione, R-Southlake and co-chair John Kuempel, R-Seguin.

Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst will choose five senators for the committee, which is to report its findings and recommendations by Dec. 1.

The committee came out of last session's House Bill 2197, which by passing allowed the lottery to continue after an unexpectedly fierce debate in which the state House voted for elimination before reversing itself.

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Discussions about killing the lottery arose after a review by the Sunset Advisory Commission, which evaluates state agencies every 10 years. The Legislature must approve a version of the sunset commission's recommendations for most agencies — including the lottery commission — to continue to exist.

The routine sunset measure unexpectedly ignited a fierce debate as Democrats and Republicans argued the lottery preys on poor people. The bill was initially defeated 81-65, leading state Rep. Linda Harper Brown to declare from the dais that "the lottery commission is gone." But concerns about how to replace the more than $2 billion budget hole that would create led to a new vote in which the lottery survived 92-53.

In a Thursday statement, Straus said that, "the House had a healthy and productive discussion about the Texas Lottery last year, and this committee will continue that discussion."

"I hope these Members will take an objective and thorough look at how the lottery and charitable bingo impact our state," he said.

Houston Chronicle, Lottery Post Staff

Comments

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Well...

These a**holes just won't quit until they succeed.

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

W/ a 2 Billion dollar budget hole the Texas lottery is going nowhere !

Stack47

Discussions about killing the lottery arose after a review by the Sunset Advisory Commission, which evaluates state agencies every 10 years.

Who is this Sunset Advisory Commission and why do they believe they know what's best for the citizens of Texas?

TnTicketlosers's avatarTnTicketlosers

They have been needed to do that in Tennesssee for a long time.

lakerben's avatarlakerben

The lotto players in Texas  could start a online petition to keep it ?

 

Patriot

bobby623's avatarbobby623

Who is this Sunset Advisory Commission and why do they believe they know what's best for the citizens of Texas?

The Sunset Advisory Commission evaluates all state commissions, not just lottery.
I believe you can find the latest advisory posted at the website www.txlottery.org.
The commission didn't recommend the lottery be disbanded, they just made some recommendations to improve
how it functions.
They recommended the commission be expanded to 6 members, which was adopted.
I believe they raised some questions on how Director Gary Grief is running the show.
Grief has made some controversial decisions, including attempted adoption of a new game that is under Attorney General
review. It's alleged that the game doesn't  meet constitutional requirements, ie. gaming, not lottery.
It's alleged that Grief is actually a undercover agent for GTECH, the lottery operator.
GTECH won the recent contract that some folks say increases their profits at the expense of Texas education.
The current Commission Chairman Krause has a questionable background, particularly regarding some tax claims.
There is a lotto report website owned by a Dallas resident ,Dawn Nettles, that provides some details on current and past issues.


samgirl280's avatarsamgirl280

Quote: Originally posted by bobby623 on Jul 25, 2014

Who is this Sunset Advisory Commission and why do they believe they know what's best for the citizens of Texas?

The Sunset Advisory Commission evaluates all state commissions, not just lottery.
I believe you can find the latest advisory posted at the website www.txlottery.org.
The commission didn't recommend the lottery be disbanded, they just made some recommendations to improve
how it functions.
They recommended the commission be expanded to 6 members, which was adopted.
I believe they raised some questions on how Director Gary Grief is running the show.
Grief has made some controversial decisions, including attempted adoption of a new game that is under Attorney General
review. It's alleged that the game doesn't  meet constitutional requirements, ie. gaming, not lottery.
It's alleged that Grief is actually a undercover agent for GTECH, the lottery operator.
GTECH won the recent contract that some folks say increases their profits at the expense of Texas education.
The current Commission Chairman Krause has a questionable background, particularly regarding some tax claims.
There is a lotto report website owned by a Dallas resident ,Dawn Nettles, that provides some details on current and past issues.


They better stop it ,

because with the Advantage Pro Time Traveling System..

The wins always ends up in Texas..

 

Anyways before this state closes 

We will go heavier on the Texas Bets until then..

 

Scaredy Cats...

shadowlady's avatarshadowlady

Quote: Originally posted by lakerben on Jul 25, 2014

The lotto players in Texas  could start a online petition to keep it ?

 

Patriot

Sounds like players in Texas need to do this, to keep their Lottery around.

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 25, 2014

Discussions about killing the lottery arose after a review by the Sunset Advisory Commission, which evaluates state agencies every 10 years.

Who is this Sunset Advisory Commission and why do they believe they know what's best for the citizens of Texas?

..the Sunset advisory committee is comprised of folks who have " rode into the sunset" ..and for some reason have returned to throw in their 2 cents into this ongoing debate.How else does one explain a 10 year debate?

Appointing  folks who are rocking chair bound to a committee of any kind is folly!

mypiemaster's avatarmypiemaster

Killing the Texas lottery, is equivalent to killing oil drilling in Texas. That will never happen.

mypiemaster's avatarmypiemaster

Quote: Originally posted by bobby623 on Jul 25, 2014

Who is this Sunset Advisory Commission and why do they believe they know what's best for the citizens of Texas?

The Sunset Advisory Commission evaluates all state commissions, not just lottery.
I believe you can find the latest advisory posted at the website www.txlottery.org.
The commission didn't recommend the lottery be disbanded, they just made some recommendations to improve
how it functions.
They recommended the commission be expanded to 6 members, which was adopted.
I believe they raised some questions on how Director Gary Grief is running the show.
Grief has made some controversial decisions, including attempted adoption of a new game that is under Attorney General
review. It's alleged that the game doesn't  meet constitutional requirements, ie. gaming, not lottery.
It's alleged that Grief is actually a undercover agent for GTECH, the lottery operator.
GTECH won the recent contract that some folks say increases their profits at the expense of Texas education.
The current Commission Chairman Krause has a questionable background, particularly regarding some tax claims.
There is a lotto report website owned by a Dallas resident ,Dawn Nettles, that provides some details on current and past issues.


Why are these people giving more GRIEF to an individual named Gary Grief. Don't they think he has enough grief in his life already?. He does not deserve any more grief from anybody. If he wants more grief in his life, he can consult with his wife and they can make little grief babies. The kind of grief that brings joy not grief into your life. Yes Nod

Nikkicute's avatarNikkicute

Texas Lottery Commission, a new panel charged with studying the ramifications of ending the lottery,

along with examining charitable bingo and how its revenue is distributed.

 

Really, they're going to pick on Bingo players What? that's cold lol

Think's avatarThink

" Garnet Coleman has accused the lottery commission of a cozy relationship with the game operator and criticized how most players are poor."

It will be interesting to see how Coleman substantiates these assertions.  I would like to know what Coleman means by "most".

I am open to seeing the exact evidence and numbers.  Certainly Coleman wouldn't make off the cuff assertions so I expect the exact numbers to be published quickly.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Once there was a thread here on LP about moving to another state because your state didn't have a lottery or because a different state had a better lottery.

If you did that wouldn't something like this really frost you?
Bang Head

This time around gambling operators seem to have the lead. If you study the history of gambling in the U.S. in the past it has run about a 20 year cycle.it gets approved, expands, and then gets outlawed. Vegas was the exception and now A.C. is falling apart, so ? But we're way past a 20 year mark.

I don't think a state lottery has ever come into being and then got outlawed since NH started in 1964.

One thing this group in Texas doesn't seem to realize is that players are going to find the action. If they get their way 'policy' will make a big comeback.

Lucky Loser

Well, one thing is for sure here, the Republicans out number the Democrats on this. If you like your lottery games, it means you're gonna have to call your people up and tear 'em a new one. Can't wait to see how this goes...especially on the 'right' side of things.

 

L.L.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Jul 25, 2014

Once there was a thread here on LP about moving to another state because your state didn't have a lottery or because a different state had a better lottery.

If you did that wouldn't something like this really frost you?
Bang Head

This time around gambling operators seem to have the lead. If you study the history of gambling in the U.S. in the past it has run about a 20 year cycle.it gets approved, expands, and then gets outlawed. Vegas was the exception and now A.C. is falling apart, so ? But we're way past a 20 year mark.

I don't think a state lottery has ever come into being and then got outlawed since NH started in 1964.

One thing this group in Texas doesn't seem to realize is that players are going to find the action. If they get their way 'policy' will make a big comeback.

If the lottery in Texas goes away, it's a 45 minute drive to Oklahoma to play PB, MM, and Hot Lotto.

And Winstar is right across the Red River.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by mypiemaster on Jul 25, 2014

Killing the Texas lottery, is equivalent to killing oil drilling in Texas. That will never happen.

Ding Ding Ding!

We have a winner!I Agree!

Piaceri

I just can't see them abolishing the lottery. The state makes too much money off it.  But they've done stranger things. They DID abolish it last year, even if it was for only a couple hours. The state already looses millions if not billions in possible state revenue to the casinos in LA and OK. There is nothing to pick up the loss of several billion in revenues that the lottery brings in. I wonder where Ms Coleman believes the replacement funds will come from? They certainly won't pull it from the rainy day fund, which won't cover the loss for more than a year or so.

Personally, I think they have bigger fish to fry.

Sunset Laws have been around for ages. The reviews are supposed to prevent duplication out of government and keep agencies/commissions/departments that have run out of life off the govt dole. Kind of like the useless federal Department of Energy. And federal Department of Education.  And maybe a few others. It is not perfect (RE abolishing the lottery last year), but the good outweighs the bad.

KKLK$DAY7

Stack47 the exact question arose in my mind. The answer is Gov. Oops and Rafiel Edwardo Cruz( the Canadian senator of Texas). Once or twice a year I travel to Louisiana to to play at the casinos and it never ceases to amaze me the Tx tags I see in the parking lot.  One would think that the money  being spent in Louisiana can be better used here in Texas. Our legislators chooses not to allow casinos nevertheless at almost every mom and pop corner store there is a "game room" the maximum win $500 now that is preying on the poor but I forgot to mention they are for entertainment purposes only with a visible sign on every machine that reads No Cash Payout  yea just take the slip to Baboo he got ya

KKLK$DAY7

I would also Like to see Coleman ban alcoholic beverages. It preys on the poor!!!!Mail For You

Goteki54's avatarGoteki54

It's not the politican's role to determine whether the lottery preys on poor people. It's a stupid argument to begin with. People have a mind of their own. It's THEIR CHOICE on whether they want to play the lottery or not. This is why I can't stand politicians who act as if they are suppose to be big brother in a nanny state!!Mad I'm really shocked this insanity is happening in Texas of all places.Hit With Stick

Iwhohavenothing

Hello,

 

I  just hold my forehead to think why you guys keep trying harder and harder to kill Texas lottery!?What?

You can try to kill tobacco (which can cause cancer), you can try to kill heavy alcohol drink ('who' can kill good drivers in the street), or stop selling guns... instead! and why you don't do those first ....??

Lottery is not cost to much to me, I spend around only 1-5 dollars/week , just  so much less than to my renting, groceries, utility costs....but the tickets reward me fun and hope!

when im stress and sad in workdays or in life, some lottery tickets make me happy a little bit:  well, after tues or wed nights..., my life might turn better!Lovies

 

So take some seconds to read my voice! Please don't try to kill lottery in Texas!!!Sad Cheers

Goteki54's avatarGoteki54

It's not the politican's role to determine whether the lottery preys on poor people. It's a stupid argument to begin with. People have a mind of their own. It's THEIR CHOICE on whether they want to play the lottery or not. This is why I can't stand politicians who act as if they are suppose to be big brother in a nanny state!!Mad I'm really shocked this insanity is happening in Texas of all places.Hit With Stick

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Legislative committee to discuss killing the Texas Lottery

 

I Wish they would do that here Red Devil

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by Lucky Loser on Jul 25, 2014

Well, one thing is for sure here, the Republicans out number the Democrats on this. If you like your lottery games, it means you're gonna have to call your people up and tear 'em a new one. Can't wait to see how this goes...especially on the 'right' side of things.

 

L.L.

States cannot depend on lottery revenues to survive. It is better to increase taxes.

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Jul 25, 2014

If the lottery in Texas goes away, it's a 45 minute drive to Oklahoma to play PB, MM, and Hot Lotto.

And Winstar is right across the Red River.

Do not tell your car insurance company that you drive to buy lottery tickets.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by THRIFTY on Jul 26, 2014

States cannot depend on lottery revenues to survive. It is better to increase taxes.

Right on the first, but I disagree on increasing taxes;  it's better to decrease spending.

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Jul 26, 2014

Right on the first, but I disagree on increasing taxes;  it's better to decrease spending.

They say that lotteries were created by governments in order not to increase taxes on the people.Hence the saying?

Litebets27's avatarLitebets27

Texas, Texas Texas....No No

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