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A Florida Lottery Scam??

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inittowin's avatar - 039ee315cfea4c12c8f5
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Posted: November 19, 2005, 6:59 pm - IP Logged

 

Did anyone notice that the exact same number in Florida's pick 4, was drawn Thursday & Friday evening? The number was 4286! Is it now a RNG lottery? I could see a possiblity of the same combination of numbers, but hard to believe the exact combination 2 nights straight.

Has this happened in other states, in the pick 4 draws?

Recently the FL lottery has quit showing the live draws for the pick 3 & 4 in my area. From what I have gathered, they don't have a TV station in the state that shows a live draw for those games. I live in the Fort Myers area and the TV station shows the numbers between 8:00- 8:15 or so, on the bottom of the screen.

I emailed the FL lottery and they replied that they don't have a budget to be able to pay TV stations to air live drawings. Each station is said to decide if they are going to show any live drawings themselves.

I also asked if it was because the FL lottery perhaps changed to RNG. I received no answer to that question.

Does anyone have any ideas to what is going on?

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    Posted: November 19, 2005, 7:26 pm - IP Logged

    I saw that too inittowin. 

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      Posted: November 19, 2005, 7:41 pm - IP Logged

      That particular number hadn't hit in over 2 years..since 2003.  So it was long overdue.

      If you know your number is going to hit, have patience and then KILL IT!

      You never know when you will get another hit.

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        Posted: November 19, 2005, 8:40 pm - IP Logged

        I just visted the website in search of machine and ball set information. They only show that for Lotto, Fantasy 5, Mega Money. So, guess what folks, all indications say they have quitely changed the game, without any notification to the paying public. Now,what can we do about it? I became suspicious when the local channel in Orlando quit televising. I sent e-mails, but never received an answer. All Florida players that vist this website need to stand up and be counted.Contact your local representatives in Tallahassee and voice your displeasure.

        Carbob


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          Posted: November 20, 2005, 1:26 am - IP Logged

          Nothing strange at all. Despite the odds of a set showing up twice within a short amount of time, is nothing but chaos doing it's job.

          I've seen pick 3 numbers that showed up exactly the same the next day. 3 times as a matter of fact.

          It's just the p-4's turn. Less frequently than the p-3, but nontheless.

          In the jackpot games, 1,2,3,4,5,6 in that order have the same probability as any other group of numbers. The only difference is that it'll have to wait in line to come out.

          Think about it, How long do you think it'll take for the last draw numbers in your state's jackpot game to come out again, those exact numbers? Either pull a fast one like the p-4 in Florida, ( maybe 5 years from now ) or wait 75 years or more to show up again.

          Another good example is if you also look at nov the 3rd in Florida, the p-4 was 0476, and on the 16th of nov. it was 0475. Off by one number. Just chaos at work.

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            Posted: November 20, 2005, 5:32 am - IP Logged

            Nothing strange at all. Despite the odds of a set showing up twice within a short amount of time, is nothing but chaos doing it's job.

            I've seen pick 3 numbers that showed up exactly the same the next day. 3 times as a matter of fact.

            It's just the p-4's turn. Less frequently than the p-3, but nontheless.

            In the jackpot games, 1,2,3,4,5,6 in that order have the same probability as any other group of numbers. The only difference is that it'll have to wait in line to come out.

            Think about it, How long do you think it'll take for the last draw numbers in your state's jackpot game to come out again, those exact numbers? Either pull a fast one like the p-4 in Florida, ( maybe 5 years from now ) or wait 75 years or more to show up again.

            Another good example is if you also look at nov the 3rd in Florida, the p-4 was 0476, and on the 16th of nov. it was 0475. Off by one number. Just chaos at work.

            Pac,

            I'm not talking about a number repeating, I'm talking about live tv drawings and ball machines. Do they have live drawings in you area? I suspect, somewhere around the first of October, they quitely switched to computers, witout publicizing that fact. Personally, I think that is wrong. Come Monday morning, I will start making phone calls. That might or might not change anything.

            Carbob

             

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              Posted: November 20, 2005, 7:39 am - IP Logged

              My concern was more of proof that the numbers were drawn like that and not the odds of it happening, or that they were due.

              In my emails to the FL lottery, I have asked them to at least show the daily drawings on their web site like Virginia does. That hasn't happened yet. I am just concerned about the way that they all of a sudden changed things and won't comment on some topics. I find it odd that ALL of the TV stations stopped the live pick 3 & 4 drawings at the same time around the state.

              We don't even get the knowledge of where the larger winning game tickets are sold any more from the web site. Only how many winners there was. I think the FL lottery is going in the wrong direction if they are looking to boost sales. I personally know of 6 different people that have quit playing the daily games until this info is explained, me being one of them.

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                Posted: November 20, 2005, 7:49 am - IP Logged

                Is that right?!  Can someone from Florida please verify that Florida has stopped airing all drawings on live TV?

                If that's the case, we need to raise holy hell over it, but if not, I don't want to perpetuate a false rumor.

                Let's get the info, and then decide if there's a problem.

                 

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                  Posted: November 20, 2005, 9:27 am - IP Logged

                  Is that right?!  Can someone from Florida please verify that Florida has stopped airing all drawings on live TV?

                  If that's the case, we need to raise holy hell over it, but if not, I don't want to perpetuate a false rumor.

                  Let's get the info, and then decide if there's a problem.

                  Todd, the very first thing tommorrow morning, I will start making phone calls. I am also going to contact a local tv station and newspaper. Something is starting to smell.

                  Carbob


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                    Posted: November 20, 2005, 10:37 am - IP Logged

                    The Repeat of "4286" was actually "Due" because I have a program that Tracks when 4 number repeats are due too hit and according to my program it was over 99 draws since 4 numbers repeated from the previous draw.Remember  (1 and 2) number repeats happen quite often in Pick-3/4. Complete number repeats are not a common occurence but they do happen and this game was overdue for a Complete number repeat.As for whether the FL Lottery has switched from Live Draws to Computer generated draws the last time  I asked them about this which was in 2004 they said they had no plans to switch.Plus I have not noticed anything extremely unusual like wierd patterns or statistical occurences my software tracks Low-High,Even-Odd,Line Width,Number Sums,Mixed and Doubles.But in the Cash3 there is something that has caught my attention but I can't be sure yet if it's because of a switch from live to computer draws.Doubles have not been drawn in 16 days which is a little strange.Doubles don't usually go longer than 10 days in FL Pick-3 so maybe there is something to be concerned about,if doubles stay outfor 18 or 21 days then I would have too agree with the possibilty that something has been changed in FL Daily game drawings.

                     


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                      Posted: November 20, 2005, 10:46 am - IP Logged

                      Okay now I am concerned not only has doubles been out too long but "HIGH" numbers like 596,789,576 or 895 have been out 28 days pretty much a month and that's very,very unusual according to my program.

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                        Posted: November 20, 2005, 11:06 am - IP Logged

                        The Repeat of "4286" was actually "Due" because I have a program that Tracks when 4 number repeats are due too hit and according to my program it was over 99 draws since 4 numbers repeated from the previous draw.Remember  (1 and 2) number repeats happen quite often in Pick-3/4. Complete number repeats are not a common occurence but they do happen and this game was overdue for a Complete number repeat.As for whether the FL Lottery has switched from Live Draws to Computer generated draws the last time  I asked them about this which was in 2004 they said they had no plans to switch.Plus I have not noticed anything extremely unusual like wierd patterns or statistical occurences my software tracks Low-High,Even-Odd,Line Width,Number Sums,Mixed and Doubles.But in the Cash3 there is something that has caught my attention but I can't be sure yet if it's because of a switch from live to computer draws.Doubles have not been drawn in 16 days which is a little strange.Doubles don't usually go longer than 10 days in FL Pick-3 so maybe there is something to be concerned about,if doubles stay outfor 18 or 21 days then I would have too agree with the possibilty that something has been changed in FL Daily game drawings.

                         

                        Pick-four-master,

                        Unless my data base is wrong, here's what I had prior to the repeat. The repeat doesn't concern me. What concerns me is the missing of live drawings and no record on their website Machine/Ballsets. There might be a reason for it, but unless you have live drawings, you can almost bet your last dollar, that they have changed to computerized drawings.

                        Carbob

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                          Posted: November 20, 2005, 11:16 am - IP Logged

                          So there live drawings for all games have been discontinued? or just for the Pick-3/4? on the old website that information was readily available machine/ballsets but I haven't noticed it anywhere on the new website.

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                            Posted: November 20, 2005, 11:27 am - IP Logged

                            Just for Cash 3/ Play 4, that I know of. I've sent an e-mail Channel 9, action consumer group, to see if they can get any kind of response.

                            Carbob

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                              Posted: November 20, 2005, 11:30 am - IP Logged

                              This is the link from their site..

                              http://www.floridalottery.com/inet/media-tvdrawingsMain.do

                              If you know your number is going to hit, have patience and then KILL IT!

                              You never know when you will get another hit.