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Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Feb 24, 2011
Jimmy,
Inferior minds want to know:
Why do you continue to play Powerball and Megamillions twice weekly when YOU know the odds?
Why haven't YOU won?
With YOUR vast knowledge of the odds, and abilities to calculate the proper trajectory and foot pounds necessary to kill a bear with a thrown tic-tac, is it really asking too much for you win Powerball with a system YOU developed?
Have you tried buying a REAL ticket?
Is it possible to show you a 'favorite' complete anything, without receiving negative feedback?
Inferior minds are now in wait mode.
garyo1954
Jimmy is a "legend in his own mind." Everything he has posted is common knowledge. He searches
the web for some article that he feels will support his topic of the day which is also the source for his
topic of the day. I am not nearly as absent minded as he thinks. He feels that statistics rule the day
and overall I would agree. One only needs to look at his analysis of maddogs challenge to see the
effect that I have so many times tried to explain. Notice that one player done very well but when
averaged overall shows no more then the expected. Consider the Law of large numbers how that
in a large sample the outcomes will most always confirm the expected. I have no problem with this
however this also assumes that the event is random. The lottery is considered sufficiently random
and my idea of sufficiently is that it is somewhat less sufficient then belived. I have been thinking
of starting another post concerning playing digits but won't until jimmy and I can come to a
agreement. If he will give his word that he would stay away then I would make a second attemp
to explain the pro's and con's of using digits and I will also refrain from posting in his topics. My
digit system post was posted just to give others another method to select numbers. I though
that some would try it and either use it or forget it. Because I made the comment that I have had
success using it I came under attack. This was my first public post and if I make another I will be
much more percise.
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Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Feb 24, 2011
Jimmy,
Inferior minds want to know:
Why do you continue to play Powerball and Megamillions twice weekly when YOU know the odds?
Why haven't YOU won?
With YOUR vast knowledge of the odds, and abilities to calculate the proper trajectory and foot pounds necessary to kill a bear with a thrown tic-tac, is it really asking too much for you win Powerball with a system YOU developed?
Have you tried buying a REAL ticket?
Is it possible to show you a 'favorite' complete anything, without receiving negative feedback?
Inferior minds are now in wait mode.
gary01954,
Thanks for your honesty!
Don't beat yourself up so much.
The answer to your questions are really quite simple. Pick-3 [000-999] games are expected to look this way: If you play $1 on a straight daily, every 2 or 3 years you'll hit for $500. If you spend more than that, you'll hit more often so just multply. If you play box tickets, you'll hit more often, but the prizes will be proportionally less. My backtests of 33+ years of the PA [000-999] lottery resulted in an average straight hit rate of 1 per 1000 draws, and this was true applying various TTT schemes as well as "systems" like betting on "yesterday's winner". If you believe you have a way to beat these odds over years of play, I'm happy for you. Play on.
As for the Powerball, et al, the odds are actually WORSE than Pick-3, UNLESS you hit a 5/5 or a Jackpot! Look at the summary of 2010 in my MadDog Challenge Topic. (I know some here think these stats are worthless, but bear with me.) If you exclude the possibility of winning a Jackpot, the Expected Value of a $1 Powerball ticket is only 17.4 ¢ ! The reason for this is that the lion's share of the money payed back to the winners is in the Jackpot, 32.5 ¢ .
So, WHY would I play the Powerball? If I spent all my gambling allotment on the PA Daily Number (Pick-3), unless one of Nicholas Taleb's "Black Swans" endowed me with an amazing string of 400 or more $500 hits before I die, I would have no hope of ever paying off my mortgage with a windfall, or in the case of a Jackpot, paying off all my kid's mortgages and starting a world tour! Simply put, I accept the lousy odds of the Powerball as my payment for my chance to win the Big One. It allows me to dream!
I'm sorry, but all I can say to those who think they've found a way for anyone to sustain winning streaks of small prizes to an extent that they can be relied upon as a source of income is, "Show us proof!"
--Jimmy4164
P.S.
https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/222395/1913245
Total Ticket Costs $8,271,258
Total Winnings $1,772,590
Overall Gain/Loss -$6,498,668
Expected Actual
Category #Wins ROI* #Wins ROI*
0 WB + PB 133991 0.049 124791 0.045
1 WB + PB 66990 0.032 64153 0.031
2 WB + PB 10508 0.009 9275 0.008
3 WB 23037 0.019 27240 0.023
3 WB + PB 606 0.007 432 0.005
4 WB 435 0.005 428 0.005
4 WB + PB 11.438 0.014 0 0.000
5 WB 1.610 0.039 4 0.097
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Total (Excl Jackpot) 0.174 0.214
JACKPOT** 0.042 0.325 0 0.000
* ROI is The Amount Won Per Dollar Spent on Tickets.
** The Expected Jackpot used is $63,476,560 per Winning Ticket.
This is an oversimplified shortcut.
An In Depth discussion of Powerball Payouts can be found here: -
Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Feb 24, 2011
garyo1954
Jimmy is a "legend in his own mind." Everything he has posted is common knowledge. He searches
the web for some article that he feels will support his topic of the day which is also the source for his
topic of the day. I am not nearly as absent minded as he thinks. He feels that statistics rule the day
and overall I would agree. One only needs to look at his analysis of maddogs challenge to see the
effect that I have so many times tried to explain. Notice that one player done very well but when
averaged overall shows no more then the expected. Consider the Law of large numbers how that
in a large sample the outcomes will most always confirm the expected. I have no problem with this
however this also assumes that the event is random. The lottery is considered sufficiently random
and my idea of sufficiently is that it is somewhat less sufficient then belived. I have been thinking
of starting another post concerning playing digits but won't until jimmy and I can come to a
agreement. If he will give his word that he would stay away then I would make a second attemp
to explain the pro's and con's of using digits and I will also refrain from posting in his topics. My
digit system post was posted just to give others another method to select numbers. I though
that some would try it and either use it or forget it. Because I made the comment that I have had
success using it I came under attack. This was my first public post and if I make another I will be
much more percise.
I have been watching you and jimmy go back and forth with some amusement. When I first read about your digits system, I thought it was a pretty good idea. When I pick numbers to play, I now pay attention to the digits....but I don't necessarily pick or reject my numbers on digits alone.
My take on the whole thing is that LP is about sharing ideas. I never understood why jimmy, or anyone else would attack a person who posts a system or idea. Maybe it's a case of a person who must tear someone else down in order to feel good about themselves. What a pity.
I would encourage you to continue to post ideas, including info on your digits system. And if jimmy or anyone else attacks you, simply ignore them, and don't even bother to respond. If you don't respond to someone, they eventually find themselves simply posting (talking) to themselves.
Thanks for what you have posted so far.
CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN
A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)
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Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Feb 24, 2011
I have been watching you and jimmy go back and forth with some amusement. When I first read about your digits system, I thought it was a pretty good idea. When I pick numbers to play, I now pay attention to the digits....but I don't necessarily pick or reject my numbers on digits alone.
My take on the whole thing is that LP is about sharing ideas. I never understood why jimmy, or anyone else would attack a person who posts a system or idea. Maybe it's a case of a person who must tear someone else down in order to feel good about themselves. What a pity.
I would encourage you to continue to post ideas, including info on your digits system. And if jimmy or anyone else attacks you, simply ignore them, and don't even bother to respond. If you don't respond to someone, they eventually find themselves simply posting (talking) to themselves.
Thanks for what you have posted so far.
Very good idea rcbbuckeye. And given that I posted this yesterday, I thought the bout was over. Apparently, some people missed it:
https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/227950/1965195
"You are free to explore your interests in other Topics here, and unless you are mounting attacks on me, either directly, or through innuendo, I will feel no need to interrupt you."
--Jimmy4164
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Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Feb 24, 2011
Jimmy would love to win as much as anyone who plays and he doesn't care what inferior minds want to know. He wants to know has anyone come up with a better way to win than luck and he dares them to prove it.
Problem is he's not the only one who wonders about such things, when PowerBall had over a hundred second prize winners when they normally expect about five they wondered, investegated and their minds were put at ease when they found out nearly all the winners got their numbers from a foture cookie. However incidents like the one mentioned in https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/228097continues to happen and probably keep them wondering and there's no benifits for anyone who has accomplished such feats explaining how they did it.
"He wants to know has anyone come up with a better way to win than luck..."
This is a very revealing statement RJOh. It's not the first time you and others have made similar assertions regarding my motives for asking for proofs of the efficacy of systems. Believe it or not, it is amusing to me. Why? Because what it tells me is that you are so steadfast in your belief that there exists a reliable system capable of providing an income stream from secondary prizes that you find it impossible to entertain even the POSSIBILITY that Jimmy4164 is NOT here to steal some-one's system. Believe me. I'm not! My belief is that the only reliable "systems" that can possibly exist are based in conspiracies to stage predictable Draws, predictable ONLY by the conspirators.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on Feb 24, 2011
gary01954,
Thanks for your honesty!
Don't beat yourself up so much.
The answer to your questions are really quite simple. Pick-3 [000-999] games are expected to look this way: If you play $1 on a straight daily, every 2 or 3 years you'll hit for $500. If you spend more than that, you'll hit more often so just multply. If you play box tickets, you'll hit more often, but the prizes will be proportionally less. My backtests of 33+ years of the PA [000-999] lottery resulted in an average straight hit rate of 1 per 1000 draws, and this was true applying various TTT schemes as well as "systems" like betting on "yesterday's winner". If you believe you have a way to beat these odds over years of play, I'm happy for you. Play on.
As for the Powerball, et al, the odds are actually WORSE than Pick-3, UNLESS you hit a 5/5 or a Jackpot! Look at the summary of 2010 in my MadDog Challenge Topic. (I know some here think these stats are worthless, but bear with me.) If you exclude the possibility of winning a Jackpot, the Expected Value of a $1 Powerball ticket is only 17.4 ¢ ! The reason for this is that the lion's share of the money payed back to the winners is in the Jackpot, 32.5 ¢ .
So, WHY would I play the Powerball? If I spent all my gambling allotment on the PA Daily Number (Pick-3), unless one of Nicholas Taleb's "Black Swans" endowed me with an amazing string of 400 or more $500 hits before I die, I would have no hope of ever paying off my mortgage with a windfall, or in the case of a Jackpot, paying off all my kid's mortgages and starting a world tour! Simply put, I accept the lousy odds of the Powerball as my payment for my chance to win the Big One. It allows me to dream!
I'm sorry, but all I can say to those who think they've found a way for anyone to sustain winning streaks of small prizes to an extent that they can be relied upon as a source of income is, "Show us proof!"
--Jimmy4164
P.S.
https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/222395/1913245
Total Ticket Costs $8,271,258
Total Winnings $1,772,590
Overall Gain/Loss -$6,498,668
Expected Actual
Category #Wins ROI* #Wins ROI*
0 WB + PB 133991 0.049 124791 0.045
1 WB + PB 66990 0.032 64153 0.031
2 WB + PB 10508 0.009 9275 0.008
3 WB 23037 0.019 27240 0.023
3 WB + PB 606 0.007 432 0.005
4 WB 435 0.005 428 0.005
4 WB + PB 11.438 0.014 0 0.000
5 WB 1.610 0.039 4 0.097
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Total (Excl Jackpot) 0.174 0.214
JACKPOT** 0.042 0.325 0 0.000
* ROI is The Amount Won Per Dollar Spent on Tickets.
** The Expected Jackpot used is $63,476,560 per Winning Ticket.
This is an oversimplified shortcut.
An In Depth discussion of Powerball Payouts can be found here:"your continual blatherings of the lie that I don't understand the odds there as well are a bore."
I don't care if you understand the odds or not but I said "Just another example of your illogical and unrealistic assumptions of how people play lottery games". Thanks for again posting that worthless information from your imaginary Challenge statistics.
"If you spend more than that, you'll hit more often so just multply. If you play box tickets, you'll hit more often, but the prizes will be proportionally less."
Does this mean if I bet $10 on a number straight, I'll win more but if I bet the $10 on the box I'll win less?
Wow, you truly are a fountain of useless information!
"I'm sorry Stack47, but YOU are the one with deficiencies in the understanding of Game Theory."
This coming from someone that stayed in their Vegas hotel room replying to Lottery Post and said:
"I would have no hope of ever paying off my mortgage with a windfall, or in the case of a Jackpot, paying off all my kid's mortgages and starting a world tour! Simply put, I accept the lousy odds of the Powerball as my payment for my chance to win the Big One. It allows me to dream! "
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Feb 24, 2011
"your continual blatherings of the lie that I don't understand the odds there as well are a bore."
I don't care if you understand the odds or not but I said "Just another example of your illogical and unrealistic assumptions of how people play lottery games". Thanks for again posting that worthless information from your imaginary Challenge statistics.
"If you spend more than that, you'll hit more often so just multply. If you play box tickets, you'll hit more often, but the prizes will be proportionally less."
Does this mean if I bet $10 on a number straight, I'll win more but if I bet the $10 on the box I'll win less?
Wow, you truly are a fountain of useless information!
"I'm sorry Stack47, but YOU are the one with deficiencies in the understanding of Game Theory."
This coming from someone that stayed in their Vegas hotel room replying to Lottery Post and said:
"I would have no hope of ever paying off my mortgage with a windfall, or in the case of a Jackpot, paying off all my kid's mortgages and starting a world tour! Simply put, I accept the lousy odds of the Powerball as my payment for my chance to win the Big One. It allows me to dream! "
Stack47 said, "Does this mean if I bet $10 on a number straight, I'll win more but if I bet the $10 on the box I'll win less?"
It would depend of course on the tickets purchased, and the winning draw.
But I assumed you knew that.
--Jimmy4164
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on Feb 24, 2011
gary01954,
Thanks for your honesty!
Don't beat yourself up so much.
The answer to your questions are really quite simple. Pick-3 [000-999] games are expected to look this way: If you play $1 on a straight daily, every 2 or 3 years you'll hit for $500. If you spend more than that, you'll hit more often so just multply. If you play box tickets, you'll hit more often, but the prizes will be proportionally less. My backtests of 33+ years of the PA [000-999] lottery resulted in an average straight hit rate of 1 per 1000 draws, and this was true applying various TTT schemes as well as "systems" like betting on "yesterday's winner". If you believe you have a way to beat these odds over years of play, I'm happy for you. Play on.
As for the Powerball, et al, the odds are actually WORSE than Pick-3, UNLESS you hit a 5/5 or a Jackpot! Look at the summary of 2010 in my MadDog Challenge Topic. (I know some here think these stats are worthless, but bear with me.) If you exclude the possibility of winning a Jackpot, the Expected Value of a $1 Powerball ticket is only 17.4 ¢ ! The reason for this is that the lion's share of the money payed back to the winners is in the Jackpot, 32.5 ¢ .
So, WHY would I play the Powerball? If I spent all my gambling allotment on the PA Daily Number (Pick-3), unless one of Nicholas Taleb's "Black Swans" endowed me with an amazing string of 400 or more $500 hits before I die, I would have no hope of ever paying off my mortgage with a windfall, or in the case of a Jackpot, paying off all my kid's mortgages and starting a world tour! Simply put, I accept the lousy odds of the Powerball as my payment for my chance to win the Big One. It allows me to dream!
I'm sorry, but all I can say to those who think they've found a way for anyone to sustain winning streaks of small prizes to an extent that they can be relied upon as a source of income is, "Show us proof!"
--Jimmy4164
P.S.
https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/222395/1913245
Total Ticket Costs $8,271,258
Total Winnings $1,772,590
Overall Gain/Loss -$6,498,668
Expected Actual
Category #Wins ROI* #Wins ROI*
0 WB + PB 133991 0.049 124791 0.045
1 WB + PB 66990 0.032 64153 0.031
2 WB + PB 10508 0.009 9275 0.008
3 WB 23037 0.019 27240 0.023
3 WB + PB 606 0.007 432 0.005
4 WB 435 0.005 428 0.005
4 WB + PB 11.438 0.014 0 0.000
5 WB 1.610 0.039 4 0.097
----- -----
Total (Excl Jackpot) 0.174 0.214
JACKPOT** 0.042 0.325 0 0.000
* ROI is The Amount Won Per Dollar Spent on Tickets.
** The Expected Jackpot used is $63,476,560 per Winning Ticket.
This is an oversimplified shortcut.
An In Depth discussion of Powerball Payouts can be found here:Jimbo! Dude! Homey! El Diablo!
You answered half the questions. Or maybe one. I can't remember. Either way, you answered what you answered and that's good enough for me.
No, I don't live off lottery winnings. I wouldn't want to work that hard! Tracking numbers, marking Xs on paper and filling out playslips would take too much time away from playing fetch, which, with a black lab, the odds are very much like playing lottery. I'll never throw that kong one more time than he will retrieve it, and we both know that. So he wins!
And I don't live by statistics. Statistics exist because of what people do. I may be one of the 89% of Americans who buy Oral-B toothbrushes, but 89% of America was buying Oral-B toothbrushs before they took the poll! It wouldn't be a statistic if they weren't.
Probability? The root of probability is probable. That means: Supported by evidence strong enough to establish a presumption, but not a proof. If it were otherwise, it would be an improbability or a guarantee. So when they start selling lottery tickets stamped, "YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE," I'll quit buying them.
Depending on how and where one lives, I can see people living off lottery winnings. If I would quit buying Oral-B toothbrushes, I could. At least I believe I could. I might have to give up kongs and dog food too. (Hope I never have to try though.)
No, I don't play odds. I play numbers. But I haven't played in two/three weeks. Maybe I should quit playing fetch. But, yes, I play when my spittoon is full of change. People think I'm joking, but the ladies at the store will tell you. They help me count CHANGE to buy lottery tickets, Jimmy! They treat me like their eccentric uncle who can't count!
And I like problems. I'm a problem solver. Too much change in the spittoon? Can't give it to the beggars, they want a buck these days, so PLAY THE LOTTERY!
For my purposes, the real intellectual stimulus is not in win or lose, not in beating the state, the odds, or the store clerk's eccentric Uncle Joe Smuckatelli, who can't count; it's not in how much I win, because I am a poor gambler, and being a poor gambler and knowing you are a poor gambler means you have to be sold on something before you make a bet; so I like to take interesting, informative tidbits and see how, or if, they affect the larger puzzle.
My drafting table looks like something you would expect of an absentminded professor! I found a scrap of paper that reads, "191 -----> of 4 possible." Jimmy! I don't know what this means!!!!
If I'm drinking decaf white zinfadel, I can entertain myself trying to determine why F$ = LEFT$(AN$,1) isn't working. Sometimes ALL NIGHT LONG!
Bottom line: It's all fun. I like to win. But if I lose, I forget it fast.
I kid a lot in real life. If I spend a buck on a $14 million dollar lottery, I don't say I lost a buck. I say I lost $14 Million!
It's all in the way you look at it. Right?
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Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Feb 24, 2011
I would love to see a complete specification of your favorite Pick-3 system, one that you allude to the existence of that one could live on the winnings from, so we could put it to the test. We could form a conspiracy of thousands of LP players, focus on one state, and laugh all the way to the bank as we watch that state go bankrupt while we collectively take them down through their Pick-3!
Sounds good but it will never happen even if someone does has a winning system because all states have rules that fix their loses on pick3/4 games by limitings the amount that can be bet on any particular combination and their other games will go pari-mutual if their payouts go beyond a certain limit. The odds are such that it shouldn't ever happens but they are prepared if it does. The best thing a player can do if he knows he has discovered a way to give himself an advantage is to play and keep it to himself mean while nothing is lost by discussing his theories about winning and maybe someone will even give him some good suggestions too.
When I read Jimmy's remark I had to double check because I thought it was something Pumpi might say. But I knew better because Pumpi is more realistic; he wants to go after the PB and MM jackpots.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on Feb 24, 2011
Stack47,
You said,
"...you will never understand that some players are winning something from the 50% the pick-3 games are paying out."
Of course there are winners! If you had really been paying attention to what I've been saying for the last 6 months, YOU might understand that because of the obscene 50% house cut, and the LOW 500/1 Jackpots, the VAST MAJORITY of Pick-3 players register a LOSS year over year!
Do yourself a favor. Either write for yourself or purchase Monte Carlo Simulation Software and observe how the Bell Shaped Curve of Pick-3 winnings shifts to the RED as you start with a minimal house edge like the one in Roulette and slowly move towards 50%. You must think offshore payouts of 90% are cash machines for the players!
As far as large jackpots go, I play the Powerball and Megamillions twice weekly and your continual blatherings of the lie that I don't understand the odds there as well are a bore.
I would love to see a complete specification of your favorite Pick-3 system, one that you allude to the existence of that one could live on the winnings from, so we could put it to the test. We could form a conspiracy of thousands of LP players, focus on one state, and laugh all the way to the bank as we watch that state go bankrupt while we collectively take them down through their Pick-3!
I'm sorry Stack47, but YOU are the one with deficiencies in the understanding of Game Theory.
--Jimmy4164
"I would love to see a complete specification of your favorite Pick-3 system, one that you allude to the existence of that one could live on the winnings from, so we could put it to the test."
And that's probably the reason Lottery Post has over 100,000 members all looking for that system.
You remind me of the football player that picked up a fumble, ran the wrong way and scored a safety for the other team when he thought he scored a touchdown. When I said "The math was done years ago before anyone wagered on pick-3 games and the house edge is and has been 50% in almost every state lottery pick-3 game. A "the glass is half empty" type of guy like you will never understand that some players are winning something from the 50% the pick-3 games are paying out." it obviously means the house pays out about $500,000 for every $1 million in wagers and yes, somebody is winning something every day.
As for making a living playing the pick-3, it would depend on a person's lifestyle, but it's possible someone could $1000 a week without ever being noticed by the state lottery. I never say anybody holding a giant check after collecting $500 hitting a pick-3 number.
In some states triples and quads are sold out almost every day so when a triple or quad is drawn, they will payout the maximum payoff allowed by their rules. I don't know how many losing days a state lottery would have to experience before closing the game if someone did actually share a winning system with thousands of other players.
I was stating a fact because most of the state lotteries give the daily payoffs so it is a fact someone is winning.
Next time you're in Vegas, go to the casino floor and tell the whales your statistics and probabilities and how to bet. Let us know how long it takes security to escort you from the casino property.
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In some states triples and quads are sold out almost every day so when a triple or quad is drawn, they will payout the maximum payoff allowed by their rules. I don't know how many losing days a state lottery would have to experience before closing the game if someone did actually share a winning system with thousands of other players.
Like these folks who won playing 2222 ... https://www.lotterypost.com/news/223381/1844693
Illinois Pick 4 lottery winners in huge line for record payout
In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency. -
Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on Feb 24, 2011
"He wants to know has anyone come up with a better way to win than luck..."
This is a very revealing statement RJOh. It's not the first time you and others have made similar assertions regarding my motives for asking for proofs of the efficacy of systems. Believe it or not, it is amusing to me. Why? Because what it tells me is that you are so steadfast in your belief that there exists a reliable system capable of providing an income stream from secondary prizes that you find it impossible to entertain even the POSSIBILITY that Jimmy4164 is NOT here to steal some-one's system. Believe me. I'm not! My belief is that the only reliable "systems" that can possibly exist are based in conspiracies to stage predictable Draws, predictable ONLY by the conspirators.
That's exactly my point, LP members come to LP to discuss and exchange ideas about their theories and strategies for winning a lottery, anyone who believes he already has a reliable strategy for winning is not discussing it here.
Where did your latest claim about my beliefs come from? I've never claimed to believe there's any system that could provides an income playing the lotteries. Perhaps you read something in another member post and assumed others must think the same way, but the truth is there are as many different beliefs about playing lotteries as there are active members here.
I do believe you think some one has more reliable information than has been shared with you or you wouldn't be asking for more data and proof. If you really believe what you post, stop asking other members to prove you wrong. Who cares if your theories are more right or wrong than others?
* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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Anyone, everyone
I posted a system that uses / wheels digits to build my lines to play. Over the years I have worked
out several methods of selecting digits that allows me to win more then I play. For the record, I win
between $500.00 to $1000.00 per year more then I spend. I play between 25 and 35 times a year
and play between 8 and 15 lines. I normally hit three or four 4 of 5's each year but have hit three in
one day. I win many 3 of 5's which pays $10.00 and 2 of 5's which pays $1.00. I have never claimed
to be rich or make a living playing the lottery. My methods require me to wait sometimes for weeks
between plays waiting for the correct time to play. If I wanted to play more agressive then I could
probably win more but I could also lose more. I wish I could win any time that I chose to play but that
is not the case. Jimmy wants me to show the exact method I use and It's not that simple. There is
no one bit of data but may different things that show that the RNG is about to come home to papa so
to speak. Below is a list from last nights drawing that shows all the possible 4 of 5's for that drawing
and the digits needed to produce them. This data -> 3230001000 shows the times each digit hit per
set. The first digit 3 in the line is the number of times digit 1 was in the set. The next digit 2 is the
times digit 2 is in the set and so on. You can see from the list that I have many different ways I could
have set my wheel using many different digit combinations and still hit a 4of5. Some of these will produce
less then 10 total lines using no filters.
Example for first line
01-13-17-22-33 3230001000 1237 <- digits needed for a 4 of 5
digit 1 hit three
digit 2 hit two
digit 3 hit three
digits 4-5-6 no shows
digit 7 hit one
digits 8-9-0 no shows
numbers______1234567890__digits needed
01 13 17 22 33 3230001000 1237
01 13 17 22 34 3221001000 12347
01 13 17 33 34 3041001000 1347
01 13 22 33 34 2241000000 1234
01 17 22 33 34 2231001000 12347
02 13 17 22 33 2330001000 1237
02 13 17 22 34 2321001000 12347
02 13 17 33 34 2141001000 12347
02 13 22 33 34 1341000000 1234
02 17 22 33 34 1331001000 12347
03 13 17 22 33 2240001000 1237
03 13 17 22 34 2231001000 12347
03 13 17 33 34 2051001000 1347
03 13 22 33 34 1251000000 1234
03 17 22 33 34 1241001000 12347
04 13 17 22 33 2231001000 12347
04 13 17 22 34 2222001000 12347
04 13 17 33 34 2042001000 1347
04 13 22 33 34 1242000000 1234
04 17 22 33 34 1232001000 12347
05 13 17 22 33 2230101000 12357
05 13 17 22 34 2221101000 123457
05 13 17 33 34 2041101000 13457
05 13 22 33 34 1241100000 12345
05 17 22 33 34 1231101000 123457
06 13 17 22 33 2230011000 12367
06 13 17 22 34 2221011000 123467
06 13 17 33 34 2041011000 13467
06 13 22 33 34 1241010000 12346
06 17 22 33 34 1231011000 123467
07 13 17 22 33 2230002000 1237
07 13 17 22 34 2221002000 12347
07 13 17 33 34 2041002000 1347
07 13 22 33 34 1241001000 12347
07 17 22 33 34 1231002000 12347
08 13 17 22 33 2230001100 12378
08 13 17 22 34 2221001100 123478
08 13 17 33 34 2041001100 13478
08 13 22 33 34 1241000100 12348
08 17 22 33 34 1231001100 123478
09 13 17 22 33 2230001010 12379
09 13 17 22 34 2221001010 123479
09 13 17 33 34 2041001010 13479
09 13 22 33 34 1241000010 12349
09 17 22 33 34 1231001010 123479
10 13 17 22 33 3230001001 12370
10 13 17 22 34 3221001001 123470
10 13 17 33 34 3041001001 13470
10 13 22 33 34 2241000001 12340
10 17 22 33 34 2231001001 123470
11 13 17 22 33 4230001000 1237
11 13 17 22 34 4221001000 12347
11 13 17 33 34 4041001000 1347
11 13 22 33 34 3241000000 1234
11 17 22 33 34 3231001000 12347
12 13 17 22 33 3330001000 1237
12 13 17 22 34 3321001000 12347
12 13 17 33 34 3141001000 12347
12 13 22 33 34 2341000000 1234
12 17 22 33 34 2331001000 12347
13 14 17 22 33 3231001000 12347
13 14 17 22 34 3222001000 12347
13 14 17 33 34 3042001000 1347
13 14 22 33 34 2242000000 1234
13 15 17 22 33 3230101000 12357
13 15 17 22 34 3221101000 123457
13 15 17 33 34 3041101000 13457
13 15 22 33 34 2241100000 12345
13 16 17 22 33 3230011000 12367
13 16 17 22 34 3221011000 123467
13 16 17 33 34 3041011000 13467
13 16 22 33 34 2241010000 12346
13 17 18 22 33 3230001100 12378
13 17 18 22 34 3221001100 123478
13 17 18 33 34 3041001100 13478
13 17 19 22 33 3230001010 12379
13 17 19 22 34 3221001010 123479
13 17 19 33 34 3041001010 13479
13 17 20 22 33 2330001001 12370
13 17 20 22 34 2321001001 123470
13 17 20 33 34 2141001001 123470
13 17 21 22 33 3330001000 1237
13 17 21 22 34 3321001000 12347
13 17 21 33 34 3141001000 12347
13 17 22 23 33 2340001000 1237
13 17 22 23 34 2331001000 12347
13 17 22 24 33 2331001000 12347
13 17 22 24 34 2322001000 12347
13 17 22 25 33 2330101000 12357
13 17 22 25 34 2321101000 123457
13 17 22 26 33 2330011000 12367
13 17 22 26 34 2321011000 123467
13 17 22 27 33 2330002000 1237
13 17 22 27 34 2321002000 12347
13 17 22 28 33 2330001100 12378
13 17 22 28 34 2321001100 123478
13 17 22 29 33 2330001010 12379
13 17 22 29 34 2321001010 123479
13 17 22 30 33 2240001001 12370
13 17 22 30 34 2231001001 123470
13 17 22 31 33 3240001000 1237
13 17 22 31 34 3231001000 12347
13 17 22 32 33 2340001000 1237
13 17 22 32 34 2331001000 12347
13 17 22 33 34 2241001000 12347 5 OF 5
13 17 22 33 35 2240101000 12357
13 17 22 33 36 2240011000 12367
13 17 22 33 37 2240002000 1237
13 17 22 33 38 2240001100 12378
13 17 22 33 39 2240001010 12379
13 17 22 34 35 2231101000 123457
13 17 22 34 36 2231011000 123467
13 17 22 34 37 2231002000 12347
13 17 22 34 38 2231001100 123478
13 17 22 34 39 2231001010 123479
13 17 23 33 34 2151001000 12347
13 17 24 33 34 2142001000 12347
13 17 25 33 34 2141101000 123457
13 17 26 33 34 2141011000 123467
13 17 27 33 34 2141002000 12347
13 17 28 33 34 2141001100 123478
13 17 29 33 34 2141001010 123479
13 17 30 33 34 2051001001 13470
13 17 31 33 34 3051001000 1347
13 17 32 33 34 2151001000 12347
13 17 33 34 35 2051101000 13457
13 17 33 34 36 2051011000 13467
13 17 33 34 37 2051002000 1347
13 17 33 34 38 2051001100 13478
13 17 33 34 39 2051001010 13479
13 18 22 33 34 2241000100 12348
13 19 22 33 34 2241000010 12349
13 20 22 33 34 1341000001 12340
13 21 22 33 34 2341000000 1234
13 22 23 33 34 1351000000 1234
13 22 24 33 34 1342000000 1234
13 22 25 33 34 1341100000 12345
13 22 26 33 34 1341010000 12346
13 22 27 33 34 1341001000 12347
13 22 28 33 34 1341000100 12348
13 22 29 33 34 1341000010 12349
13 22 30 33 34 1251000001 12340
13 22 31 33 34 2251000000 1234
13 22 32 33 34 1351000000 1234
13 22 33 34 35 1251100000 12345
13 22 33 34 36 1251010000 12346
13 22 33 34 37 1251001000 12347
13 22 33 34 38 1251000100 12348
13 22 33 34 39 1251000010 12349
14 17 22 33 34 2232001000 12347
15 17 22 33 34 2231101000 123457
16 17 22 33 34 2231011000 123467
17 18 22 33 34 2231001100 123478
17 19 22 33 34 2231001010 123479
17 20 22 33 34 1331001001 123470
17 21 22 33 34 2331001000 12347
17 22 23 33 34 1341001000 12347
17 22 24 33 34 1332001000 12347
17 22 25 33 34 1331101000 123457
17 22 26 33 34 1331011000 123467
17 22 27 33 34 1331002000 12347
17 22 28 33 34 1331001100 123478
17 22 29 33 34 1331001010 123479
17 22 30 33 34 1241001001 123470
17 22 31 33 34 2241001000 12347
17 22 32 33 34 1341001000 12347
17 22 33 34 35 1241101000 123457
17 22 33 34 36 1241011000 123467
17 22 33 34 37 1241002000 12347
17 22 33 34 38 1241001100 123478
17 22 33 34 39 1241001010 123479This is the digit system, My software allows me to click on the digits I want to wheel and click run. Notice
how many of these sets have digits 1-2-3 and many have 1-2-3-4 which would produced a 4 of 5. Some
of these will produce more then one.
RL
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Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Feb 25, 2011
Anyone, everyone
I posted a system that uses / wheels digits to build my lines to play. Over the years I have worked
out several methods of selecting digits that allows me to win more then I play. For the record, I win
between $500.00 to $1000.00 per year more then I spend. I play between 25 and 35 times a year
and play between 8 and 15 lines. I normally hit three or four 4 of 5's each year but have hit three in
one day. I win many 3 of 5's which pays $10.00 and 2 of 5's which pays $1.00. I have never claimed
to be rich or make a living playing the lottery. My methods require me to wait sometimes for weeks
between plays waiting for the correct time to play. If I wanted to play more agressive then I could
probably win more but I could also lose more. I wish I could win any time that I chose to play but that
is not the case. Jimmy wants me to show the exact method I use and It's not that simple. There is
no one bit of data but may different things that show that the RNG is about to come home to papa so
to speak. Below is a list from last nights drawing that shows all the possible 4 of 5's for that drawing
and the digits needed to produce them. This data -> 3230001000 shows the times each digit hit per
set. The first digit 3 in the line is the number of times digit 1 was in the set. The next digit 2 is the
times digit 2 is in the set and so on. You can see from the list that I have many different ways I could
have set my wheel using many different digit combinations and still hit a 4of5. Some of these will produce
less then 10 total lines using no filters.
Example for first line
01-13-17-22-33 3230001000 1237 <- digits needed for a 4 of 5
digit 1 hit three
digit 2 hit two
digit 3 hit three
digits 4-5-6 no shows
digit 7 hit one
digits 8-9-0 no shows
numbers______1234567890__digits needed
01 13 17 22 33 3230001000 1237
01 13 17 22 34 3221001000 12347
01 13 17 33 34 3041001000 1347
01 13 22 33 34 2241000000 1234
01 17 22 33 34 2231001000 12347
02 13 17 22 33 2330001000 1237
02 13 17 22 34 2321001000 12347
02 13 17 33 34 2141001000 12347
02 13 22 33 34 1341000000 1234
02 17 22 33 34 1331001000 12347
03 13 17 22 33 2240001000 1237
03 13 17 22 34 2231001000 12347
03 13 17 33 34 2051001000 1347
03 13 22 33 34 1251000000 1234
03 17 22 33 34 1241001000 12347
04 13 17 22 33 2231001000 12347
04 13 17 22 34 2222001000 12347
04 13 17 33 34 2042001000 1347
04 13 22 33 34 1242000000 1234
04 17 22 33 34 1232001000 12347
05 13 17 22 33 2230101000 12357
05 13 17 22 34 2221101000 123457
05 13 17 33 34 2041101000 13457
05 13 22 33 34 1241100000 12345
05 17 22 33 34 1231101000 123457
06 13 17 22 33 2230011000 12367
06 13 17 22 34 2221011000 123467
06 13 17 33 34 2041011000 13467
06 13 22 33 34 1241010000 12346
06 17 22 33 34 1231011000 123467
07 13 17 22 33 2230002000 1237
07 13 17 22 34 2221002000 12347
07 13 17 33 34 2041002000 1347
07 13 22 33 34 1241001000 12347
07 17 22 33 34 1231002000 12347
08 13 17 22 33 2230001100 12378
08 13 17 22 34 2221001100 123478
08 13 17 33 34 2041001100 13478
08 13 22 33 34 1241000100 12348
08 17 22 33 34 1231001100 123478
09 13 17 22 33 2230001010 12379
09 13 17 22 34 2221001010 123479
09 13 17 33 34 2041001010 13479
09 13 22 33 34 1241000010 12349
09 17 22 33 34 1231001010 123479
10 13 17 22 33 3230001001 12370
10 13 17 22 34 3221001001 123470
10 13 17 33 34 3041001001 13470
10 13 22 33 34 2241000001 12340
10 17 22 33 34 2231001001 123470
11 13 17 22 33 4230001000 1237
11 13 17 22 34 4221001000 12347
11 13 17 33 34 4041001000 1347
11 13 22 33 34 3241000000 1234
11 17 22 33 34 3231001000 12347
12 13 17 22 33 3330001000 1237
12 13 17 22 34 3321001000 12347
12 13 17 33 34 3141001000 12347
12 13 22 33 34 2341000000 1234
12 17 22 33 34 2331001000 12347
13 14 17 22 33 3231001000 12347
13 14 17 22 34 3222001000 12347
13 14 17 33 34 3042001000 1347
13 14 22 33 34 2242000000 1234
13 15 17 22 33 3230101000 12357
13 15 17 22 34 3221101000 123457
13 15 17 33 34 3041101000 13457
13 15 22 33 34 2241100000 12345
13 16 17 22 33 3230011000 12367
13 16 17 22 34 3221011000 123467
13 16 17 33 34 3041011000 13467
13 16 22 33 34 2241010000 12346
13 17 18 22 33 3230001100 12378
13 17 18 22 34 3221001100 123478
13 17 18 33 34 3041001100 13478
13 17 19 22 33 3230001010 12379
13 17 19 22 34 3221001010 123479
13 17 19 33 34 3041001010 13479
13 17 20 22 33 2330001001 12370
13 17 20 22 34 2321001001 123470
13 17 20 33 34 2141001001 123470
13 17 21 22 33 3330001000 1237
13 17 21 22 34 3321001000 12347
13 17 21 33 34 3141001000 12347
13 17 22 23 33 2340001000 1237
13 17 22 23 34 2331001000 12347
13 17 22 24 33 2331001000 12347
13 17 22 24 34 2322001000 12347
13 17 22 25 33 2330101000 12357
13 17 22 25 34 2321101000 123457
13 17 22 26 33 2330011000 12367
13 17 22 26 34 2321011000 123467
13 17 22 27 33 2330002000 1237
13 17 22 27 34 2321002000 12347
13 17 22 28 33 2330001100 12378
13 17 22 28 34 2321001100 123478
13 17 22 29 33 2330001010 12379
13 17 22 29 34 2321001010 123479
13 17 22 30 33 2240001001 12370
13 17 22 30 34 2231001001 123470
13 17 22 31 33 3240001000 1237
13 17 22 31 34 3231001000 12347
13 17 22 32 33 2340001000 1237
13 17 22 32 34 2331001000 12347
13 17 22 33 34 2241001000 12347 5 OF 5
13 17 22 33 35 2240101000 12357
13 17 22 33 36 2240011000 12367
13 17 22 33 37 2240002000 1237
13 17 22 33 38 2240001100 12378
13 17 22 33 39 2240001010 12379
13 17 22 34 35 2231101000 123457
13 17 22 34 36 2231011000 123467
13 17 22 34 37 2231002000 12347
13 17 22 34 38 2231001100 123478
13 17 22 34 39 2231001010 123479
13 17 23 33 34 2151001000 12347
13 17 24 33 34 2142001000 12347
13 17 25 33 34 2141101000 123457
13 17 26 33 34 2141011000 123467
13 17 27 33 34 2141002000 12347
13 17 28 33 34 2141001100 123478
13 17 29 33 34 2141001010 123479
13 17 30 33 34 2051001001 13470
13 17 31 33 34 3051001000 1347
13 17 32 33 34 2151001000 12347
13 17 33 34 35 2051101000 13457
13 17 33 34 36 2051011000 13467
13 17 33 34 37 2051002000 1347
13 17 33 34 38 2051001100 13478
13 17 33 34 39 2051001010 13479
13 18 22 33 34 2241000100 12348
13 19 22 33 34 2241000010 12349
13 20 22 33 34 1341000001 12340
13 21 22 33 34 2341000000 1234
13 22 23 33 34 1351000000 1234
13 22 24 33 34 1342000000 1234
13 22 25 33 34 1341100000 12345
13 22 26 33 34 1341010000 12346
13 22 27 33 34 1341001000 12347
13 22 28 33 34 1341000100 12348
13 22 29 33 34 1341000010 12349
13 22 30 33 34 1251000001 12340
13 22 31 33 34 2251000000 1234
13 22 32 33 34 1351000000 1234
13 22 33 34 35 1251100000 12345
13 22 33 34 36 1251010000 12346
13 22 33 34 37 1251001000 12347
13 22 33 34 38 1251000100 12348
13 22 33 34 39 1251000010 12349
14 17 22 33 34 2232001000 12347
15 17 22 33 34 2231101000 123457
16 17 22 33 34 2231011000 123467
17 18 22 33 34 2231001100 123478
17 19 22 33 34 2231001010 123479
17 20 22 33 34 1331001001 123470
17 21 22 33 34 2331001000 12347
17 22 23 33 34 1341001000 12347
17 22 24 33 34 1332001000 12347
17 22 25 33 34 1331101000 123457
17 22 26 33 34 1331011000 123467
17 22 27 33 34 1331002000 12347
17 22 28 33 34 1331001100 123478
17 22 29 33 34 1331001010 123479
17 22 30 33 34 1241001001 123470
17 22 31 33 34 2241001000 12347
17 22 32 33 34 1341001000 12347
17 22 33 34 35 1241101000 123457
17 22 33 34 36 1241011000 123467
17 22 33 34 37 1241002000 12347
17 22 33 34 38 1241001100 123478
17 22 33 34 39 1241001010 123479This is the digit system, My software allows me to click on the digits I want to wheel and click run. Notice
how many of these sets have digits 1-2-3 and many have 1-2-3-4 which would produced a 4 of 5. Some
of these will produce more then one.
RL
Rl rondonic Hello, I have one question, have lotteries that use 50 balls
All together, the draw! and have lotteries that uses two digits separated globes
These two forms have the same precision? of digits in your system if those who organize
The game is a draw with the balls all together and the next draw with two other Globe
Separately, does that change anything? For we know that repetition is the key event
Of probability, and that lottery games can only provide up to 70% to 80% the rest is random, ie in a game 49 / 6 can be predicted a 4.5 both numbers will always be random, one could attempt a review with three frequency bands of each termination
Vertically more frequent, but medium and late in the vertical position of each single endings, ok! but until that is missing an ending loses the game, understandsOuvirLer foneticamenteDicionário - Ver dicionário detalhado
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Uh-oh RL! Excellent! Another thing to to send me back to the drafting table!
*draws plans for cloning machine*
At this point I'm going to need three of me to keep up with you. Five, just to catch up with you!
Company this weekend is not going to give me much time.
But so far things are falling in place. Great work!