Mathematics and the Lottery

My vote is for #2 - prove me wrong. *S*

I would like to believe math has a lot to capturing wins at all levels. However, since many of the states converted their drawings from mechanical to RNG ( random number generator) computer, I want to say that unless you are in that very small circle of people who conduct the drawings much of the math is similar to luck. Extremely high odds against the player in lotto games.

I voted for #2 also....

I believe you can use math but you need use a different type of math, not anything we learned in school.

Something more dynamic

Hello, the basis of lottery games is that you can use mathematics to predict to some extent after is random example, a game of 49 / 6, how many times players
  With 50 or 100 bets often hit 3 to 4 of 6 possible arrangements of the lottery 49 / 6 so we can only predict with confidence until 3:04 random numbers is then
  Up to two numbers because they can repeat the previous result, understand! In pick3 are the pairs
Mathematically easier to predict the random factor will always exist, look at the example
  Lottery 49 / 6 are 13 million of bets, but if you get a wheel 49x4x4 =?
That is a wheel that always guarantees the court in any lottery, only missing two numbers
  To close the 6 numbers to bet, I think the study of Boolean analysis, nonlinear
  To mount wheels at the lowest possible reduction of 49x4x4 =? I also think that you can use the addition and reduction of the numbers, ok

Proving you're wrong won't necessarily produce a winner so I challenge you to prove you are correct.

Hi,

  You gotta love a devil's advocate.*S*

  Do I have mathematical proof...no. However, after years of observation at the LP, #2 should be the correct answer. I've seen members come and go who are much more adept at advanced matmematics than I am. But it doesn't seem to matter, the result is the same repetitively, no winning system has been generated by people who know mathematics inside out. So, my proof whould be...that given the amount manpower, manhours, and talent that has been applied over an extended time, a new approach should be taken. Please note that I am not discounting current mathematics a necessary element to developing a winning system. I would say that current models are inadequate to the task. That would infer that newer models should be generated from mathematics as we know it. Perhaps multi-dimensional distribution analysis and the rules around law of uncertainty might be a good place to start as a new foundation. Even if you don't agree, try a new (really new) path, the old ones aren't working.

Uncertainty principle of game theory

The uncertainty principle of game theory was formulated by Szekely and Rizzo in 2007.^[28] This principle is a lower bound for the entropy of optimal strategies of players in terms of the commutator of two nonlinear operators: minimum and maximum. If the payoff matrix (a_ij) of an arbitrary zero-sum game is normalized (i.e. the smallest number in this matrix is 0, the biggest number is 1) and the commutator

min_j max_i (a_ij) − max_i min_j (a_ij) = h

then the entropy of the optimal strategy of any of the players cannot be smaller than the entropy of the two-point distribution [1/(1+h), h/(1+h)] and this is the best lower bound. (This is zero if and only if h = 0 i.e. if min and max are commutable in which case the game has pure nonrandom optimal strategies). As an application, one could optimize between these two-point strategies via considering the distribution [1/(1+h), h/(1+h)] on all pairs of pure strategies. In many practical cases we do not lose much by neglecting more complex strategies.

I'm not so sure someone hasn't come with a winning lottery system, but not one so spectacular that it would be noticed if they didn't brag about it.   I can't think of any reason one would bring attention to themselves if they had developed such a system other than they could generate money talking about it rather than using it and in that case it would just be another one of those winning lottery systems you can already buy off the Internet.

Maybe a math wizard could write a formula.

Hey Sully,

Agreed, it wil take a wizard of sorts because it hasn't knowingly been done via conventional math or means!!!

EddessaKnight

If you click here you will be able to surmise how I voted...

http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/bettingsystems.html

(Be sure to click on "Who is the Wizard of Odds."

I'm not too proficient at math so I try to use geography instead.

(To the tune of "I Was In The Right Place But It Musta Been The Wrong Time" by Dr Hook and the Medicine Show)

By being in the right place

And hoping it's the right time.

Buyin' me some Quick Picks

And standin in the right line

Smilin' at the cashier

Tellin' her she looks fine

Gettin' me some cold beer

Over by the beer sign

Askin' if she'd like one

Let 'er know that I'm buyin'

Meet 'er later out back

Let 'er know she's my kind

Get 'er in the pickup

Let 'er know that I'm tryin'

To win a big ol' jackpot

Bigger than a gold mine

Sittin' in the backwoods

Sippin' on some moonshine

Thinkin bout the powerball

Thinkin' that we'll do fine

She pulls out some Midol...

The End

spent a lot of time w/ this kind of stuff as a kid, now wish some one had it all written downway too funny,love that tune so i just did it,out loud air guiter style,could't finish, lmao. thanks

Although you have continued to link articles written by professional mathematician who are consultants in the gambling industry that assure us that casino and lottery games are designed such that the house always have the advantage and there's no way to change that using mathematics, we continue to read stories about groups that had some short term success taking advantage of something over looked like a RNG used improperly as in Tennessee a few years ago or under estimating the ways and amount of data players could accumulate in card counting schemes and etc.  Granted, it has been a waste of time so far, there still those who continue to look for such flaws and lotteries investigates when anything unusual happens such a when over 200 PB players matched 5+0 a few years ago.

Apples and oranges. Card counting simply shifts the advantage of a game that's not random from the house to the player by changing the rules of the game. Recognzing flaws, such as an improper RNG, are also based on a change in the rules of the game

The question of whether or not a winning system for beating the lottery is possible is an entirely different matter. Occasional flaws aside, lottery games are random; you place your bet without knowing anything about your hand or the dealers. Until somebody develops a math that can predict the future there's no chance of developing a winning system, because random results are unpredictable. Thinking you can somehow beat random is even sillier than thinking you can consistently beat  the house advantage in a casino game.

Even the vast majority of people who are hunting for that mythical system should be able to recognize the truth. How many of them have claimed their "system" worked for a while and then went cold? If the rules of the game didn't change a system that works now would continue to work.