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Gainesville, FL United States Member #121749 January 16, 2012 8 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 22, 2012, 7:47 pm - IP Logged | |
Florida Lotto is a 6 ball, 53 number Lottery. It's Odds are: Hits = 1 1 in 8.8 Hits = 2 1 in 91.9 Hits = 3 1 in 1171.3 Hits = 4 1 in 19521.7 Hits = 5 1 in 478280.8 Hits = 6 1 in 22957480 There are around 104 drawings per year; so you could expect to Hit 1 ball on your quick pick about once a month ... 2 about once a year ... 3 about once a decade ... 4 about once a generation ... 5 once in a lifetime and 6 in the midst of the next ice age. | | |
mid-Ohio United States Member #9 March 24, 2001 13923 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 23, 2012, 11:48 pm - IP Logged | |
Where did you come up with those odds calculations? possible combos of 6/53 numbers = 22957480 MATCHES ODDS 6/6 1 : 22957480 5/6 1 : 81410 4/6 1 : 1416 3/6 1 : 71 2/6 1 : 9 1/6 1 : 2 My odds calculations show you can expect to match one on every other QP or 1:2 or get a free ticket once a month or 1:9. * that which happens most * * is most likely to happen again * 
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Gainesville, FL United States Member #121749 January 16, 2012 8 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 24, 2012, 6:07 pm - IP Logged | |
C(53,Hits)/C(6,Hits) Essentially, Make 2 lists ... one with all possible combinations using 53 numbers, in the other, all possible combinations using 6 numbers. Then divide the list counts. You get a slightly better result if you do: 1/(1/53 + 1/52 + 1/51 + 1/50 + 1/49 + 1/48) = 1 in 8.4, but I prefer the picking entries in a great big list method. | Hits | Odds | Combos in 53 | Combos in 6 | | Hits = 1 | 1 in 8.8 | 53 | 6 | | Hits = 2 | 1 in 91.9 | 1378 | 15 | | Hits = 3 | 1 in 1171.3 | 23426 | 20 | | Hits = 4 | 1 in 19521.7 | 292825 | 15 | | Hits = 5 | 1 in 478280.8 | 2869685 | 6 | | Hits = 6 | 1 in 22957480 | 22957480 | 1 |
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Gainesville, FL United States Member #121749 January 16, 2012 8 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 24, 2012, 6:22 pm - IP Logged | |
* THat which happens most * * is most likely to happen again * is unlikely in a lottery. | | |
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Gainesville, FL United States Member #121749 January 16, 2012 8 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 24, 2012, 7:00 pm - IP Logged | |
I don't know if you're a coder; but these are my visual basic routines -- p is permutations, c is combinations. ' P(n,k) = n! / (n-k)! Public Function p(ByVal n As Double, ByVal k As Double) As Double Dim i As Integer p = 1 For i = ((n - k) + 1) To n p = i * p Next End Function ' C(n,k) = P(n,k) / k! Public Function c(ByVal n As Double, ByVal k As Double) As Double Dim i As Integer c = p(n, k) For i = 2 To k c = c / i Next i End Function I'd really like to know if I've got any of this wrong. | | |
mid-Ohio United States Member #9 March 24, 2001 13923 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 24, 2012, 7:21 pm - IP Logged | |
I don't know if you're a coder; but these are my visual basic routines -- p is permutations, c is combinations. ' P(n,k) = n! / (n-k)! Public Function p(ByVal n As Double, ByVal k As Double) As Double Dim i As Integer p = 1 For i = ((n - k) + 1) To n p = i * p Next End Function ' C(n,k) = P(n,k) / k! Public Function c(ByVal n As Double, ByVal k As Double) As Double Dim i As Integer c = p(n, k) For i = 2 To k c = c / i Next i End Function I'd really like to know if I've got any of this wrong. nCr=n!/[(n-r)!*r!] I used the above formula to get my results which are the same posted on state websites that I've visited so I assume they are correct. *Permutations aren't the same as a combinations. Permutations include all the different possible arrangements of numbers in a combination. * that which happens most * * is most likely to happen again * 
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Gainesville, FL United States Member #121749 January 16, 2012 8 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 24, 2012, 8:15 pm - IP Logged | |
Ok. I've put up my thinking; but I also ran a test. I took the first 100 Lotteries in the Florida Lotto history list and ran them against each other so that each Lottery took the other 99 as Quick Picks. The results confirm your calculations. Where did I go wrong? Quick Pick Results | Hits | Count | Percent | Probability |
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| 1 | 4044 | 40.85 | 1 in 2.4 | | 2 | 1170 | 11.82 | 1 in 8.5 | | 3 | 118 | 1.19 | 1 in 83.9 | | 4 | 10 | 0.1 | 1 in 990.0 |
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Gainesville, FL United States Member #121749 January 16, 2012 8 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 25, 2012, 7:03 am - IP Logged | |
Thanks RJOh! My error is that I thought the probability formula is WaysToWin/TotalCombinations. The correct formula is (WaysToWin*WaysToLose)/TotalCombinations. The Permutations and Combinations code I put up are correct and this is the corrected table, now just like RJOh: Odds | Hits | Picks to Hit | Ways to Win | Ways to Lose | Total Combinations |
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| 0 | 2.1 | 1 | 10737573 | 22957480 | | 1 | 2.5 | 6 | 1533939 | 22957480 | | 2 | 8.6 | 15 | 178365 | 22957480 | | 3 | 70.8 | 20 | 16215 | 22957480 | | 4 | 1415.8 | 15 | 1081 | 22957480 | | 5 | 81409.5 | 6 | 47 | 22957480 | | 6 | 22957480 | 1 | 1 | 22957480 |
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mid-Ohio United States Member #9 March 24, 2001 13923 Posts Offline | | Posted: January 25, 2012, 5:06 pm - IP Logged | |
Thanks RJOh! My error is that I thought the probability formula is WaysToWin/TotalCombinations. The correct formula is (WaysToWin*WaysToLose)/TotalCombinations. The Permutations and Combinations code I put up are correct and this is the corrected table, now just like RJOh: Odds | Hits | Picks to Hit | Ways to Win | Ways to Lose | Total Combinations |
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| 0 | 2.1 | 1 | 10737573 | 22957480 | | 1 | 2.5 | 6 | 1533939 | 22957480 | | 2 | 8.6 | 15 | 178365 | 22957480 | | 3 | 70.8 | 20 | 16215 | 22957480 | | 4 | 1415.8 | 15 | 1081 | 22957480 | | 5 | 81409.5 | 6 | 47 | 22957480 | | 6 | 22957480 | 1 | 1 | 22957480 |
That's pretty close. These are some full printouts of the program I wrote some years ago using GWBasic. I can use different variables to fit the game that I'm playing or the answers that I want. combination size 6 basic pool size 53 (B) bonus numbers none smallest match 0 tickets or chances per draw 1 possible combos of 6/53 numbers = 22957480 MATCHES ODDS WINNING COMBOS EXPECTED WINNERS 6/6 1 : 22957480 1 0.00 5/6 1 : 81410 282 0.00 4/6 1 : 1416 16215 0.00 3/6 1 : 71 324300 0.01 2/6 1 : 9 2675475 0.12 1/6 1 : 2 9203634 0.40 0/6 1 : 2 10737573 0.47 ______________________________________________________________________________ overall odds are 1 : 1 1.0 total expected winners 22957480 winning combos = 100 % of possible combination size 5 basic pool size 59 (B) Bonus pool size 35 smallest match no (B) number 3 largest match with bonus 5 smallest match with bonus 0 tickets or chances per draw 1 possible combos of 5/59 + 1/35 numbers = 175223510 MATCHES ODDS WINNING COMBOS EXPECTED WINNERS 5/5+B 1 : 175223510 1 0.00 5/5+0 1 : 5153633 34 0.00 4/5+B 1 : 648976 270 0.00 4/5+0 1 : 19088 9180 0.00 3/5+B 1 : 12245 14310 0.00 3/5+0 1 : 360 486540 0.00 2/5+B 1 : 706 248040 0.00 1/5+B 1 : 111 1581255 0.01 0/5+B 1 : 55 3162510 0.02 ______________________________________________________________________________ overall odds are 1 : 31.8 0.0 total expected winners 5502140 winning combos = 3.14 % of possible combos combination size 6 basic pool size 53 (B) bonus numbers none smallest match 3 tickets or chances per draw 1 possible combos of 6/53 numbers = 22957480 MATCHES ODDS WINNING COMBOS EXPECTED WINNERS 6/6 1 : 22957480 1 0.00 5/6 1 : 81410 282 0.00 4/6 1 : 1416 16215 0.00 3/6 1 : 71 324300 0.01 ______________________________________________________________________________ overall odds are 1 : 67.3 0.0 total expected winners 340798 winning combos = 1.48 % of possible combos * that which happens most * * is most likely to happen again * 
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