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If you knew the numbers before the drawing?

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Posted: February 25, 2012, 10:34 pm - IP Logged

Although some may be aware of the true story about a newpaper printing the winning numbers prior to the drawing some years ago...

The story basically goes like this..

What would happen if, crazy as it might sound, a newspaper published the correct numbers of a lottery before the numbers were drawn?     This story begins where a Vancouver resident called Oregon Lottery officials claiming that the newspaper he was reading The Columbian had printed the winning numbers for that nights drawing in the paper before the numbers were drawn.   So, David Hooper, public affairs manager of the Oregon Lottery, placed a call to The Columbian. He asked for the numbers we had printed in the Pick 4 Oregon Lottery game. We told him: 6-8-5-5. That's not what he wanted to hear. Because those were the numbers that were drawn several hours after the newpaper was published. We got a call back. Would we fax him a copy of the page? Sure. It was 6-8-5-5 again. OK, one last try. Oregon Lottery officials went out and bought a copy of The Columbian. Maybe our call and the fax were sort of a joke.   But when they plunked down their 50 cents, (very, very dramatic pause required here) they were at a loss. We indeed had published the winning numbers several hours before they were drawn.   Hmmm. "Game security is our most valuable commodity," Hooper would say later. "This was something we needed to take a more serious look at."   There are dozens of checks and double-checks firewalls, to protect the integrity of the lottery game, and every one of them would now have to be checked. Could there have been a leak in the system? An inside job? A fix? If someone could get the numbers in advance, think of the quick money that could be made.   Think of how the entire Oregon Lottery, which brings in millions of dollars, would collapse. But the firewalls all checked out. There still was no answer. Hooper had no options left. So he called the law. That's when Lloyd W. Beil, a detective with the Oregon State Police's gaming enforcement section, paid us a visit.   Beil's stop here was at News Editor Cynthia Tank's desk. The news desk is in charge of many things, including getting the lottery results in the paper.   "What's up" must have been his first inquiry. Lucky he didn't run into me first. I would have grinned and said, "Hey, I know people who know people."   Tank, however, came clean. Here's what happened: The Columbian's computers crashed Wednesday and we had to scramble to re-create a news page that had been lost. It happened to be the page that had the lottery results. A copy editor was assigned to go back and get the Oregon Lottery numbers off the news wires. We were pushing deadline, and he had to be quick.   He spotted the Pick 4 numbers. Problem was, he grabbed the Virginia Pick 4 numbers, not Oregon's. And miracle of miracles, Virginia's Pick 4 numbers were the same exact numbers that Oregon was about to draw that day.   "We can laugh about it now," Hooper said. "Because there's nothing wrong with our system." But he admits there were some anxious moments. And exactly what are the odds of hitting the Pick 4?   "Well, it's 10,000 to 1," he said. And the odds of us crashing our computers, picking the Virginia lottery numbers by mistake and having those numbers be the same numbers you would draw the next day?   "A gazillion to one." _____       Ok so a Washington (state) newspaper The Columbian printed the winning Pick4 numbers for the Oregon State Lottery several hours before the numbers were actually drawn. But it turns out that what really happened was that in a rush the news editor grabbed the Virginia State Lottery Pick 4 numbers by mistake and posted them in the paper before the drawing occured in Oregon.   A subscriber reportedly noticed the time discrepancy, and contacted the Lottery. They investigated and suppossedly found that a harmless coincidence was the source of the "pre-printing" of the winning numbers.   Appearing at about 7:30 AM ET on the NBC program TODAY, the Managing Editor of The Columbian explained that as the deadline for the paper approached, a staff Editor went to "the wire" to obtain the winning numbers. However, "their (The Columbian's) computer crashed" at just that moment, and in trying to recover the information, the staff Editor accidentally accessed and printed the winning numbers for the Virginia State Lottery, believing they were the Oregon State Lottery numbers.   And, by a coincidence described as "one in a ga-zillion" by the Oregon State Lottery officials, the winning numbers for Oregon and Virginia just happened to be the same that day.   End of story--or so they would have you believe.   I don't think so.   This "explaination" just can't be right--even if the numbers for Oregon and Virginia /were/ coincidentally the same on July 3.   The heart of the matter is that the deadline for The Columbian was obviously several hours before the drawing of the Oregon Lottery, because the paper was on the streets with the "winning numbers" in print several hours before the drawing.   So how does a newspaper routinely access the correct numbers "on the wire" several hours before they are physically drawn?   It doesn't--unless the numbers have already been picked "several hours" before the "supposed" official drawing time. Which means that the winning numbers "are known" to at least "some persons in advance" and that is the very essence of a fradulent lottery. In otherwords they claim that the lottery drawing is at such and such time and really it could be drawn early in the morning or afternoon? And if this is true what are we watching on television a recorded show from the morning or afternoon several hours before the drawing time. THINK ABOUT IT!   So--if the Pick4 is fradulently drawn, what about all the other Lottery drawings?   Interestingly, the managing Editor commented during his appearance that upon being contacted by the observant subscriber, the Oregon State Lottery immediately went to "DefCon 4", and checked all their firewalls and security systems to make sure that "this [in context meaning an unautorized advance access of the winning numbers] couldn't happen".   Just the phrasing of that statement alone seems to imply that an "authorized advance access" of the winning number CAN happen!

So this brings me to a question I have been waiting forever to ask the entire lottery community for years!

1. If the numbers could be known in advance what would you do with those numbers? 2. If only half of the numbers could be known in advance what would you do with those numbers?

Lets focus on number 1

Lets say you knew in advance that 6855 were going to be drawn in your pick 4 lottery tonight or tomorrow whatever?

Well naturally IT DOESNT TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST HERE. You would play those 4 digits and win THE MULLA.

Number 2

Ok lets say you only knew half or only 2 of the numbers from 6855 like only the 68 or 55 would it be easy to win with knowing only 2 numbers? How easy? What would be your system of winning?

Ok lets look at a 6/49 lottery

If you knew HALF of the 6 numbers in advance.

What type of method would you play to go about getting the other 3 to win the jackpot?

I am very very very interested in hearing from anyone on this forum.

One last note: I reasize that some here may be fixed on a belief that it is absolutely impossible to know in advance even 1 number of any lottery let alone half the numbers before they are drawn yet because I know for a fact that it is not only probable but very possible! I have discovered a loophole in the lottery that I believe I may be the the ONLY ONE on earth on the entire planet who has found it!

And because I only know 3 of the numbers I naturaly have won thousands of times with 3 numer wins and 4 number wins also and also won wiht 5 numbers but cant get the 6th one no matter how I try!

And it is 100% accurate! Maybe It is random, maybe not, but it is accurate!

Now if anyone can help me attain the other 3 in the 649 lottery I will share the money with you.

In otherwords I want to shake up your belief about the lottery and show everyone on this site that something unusual is occuring in the lottery that I have single handedly discovered and very much doubt anyone in the world is aware of, I accidently stumbled upon it one late night in the wee hours of the morning. I just dont know what to do with my discovery or how to play to attain the other 3?

 The lottery is not random and I know you have yor own belief that it is yet I do not share this belief with you pand never will so please do not try to convince me otherwise it will do you no good!

I know 3 of the numbers in the 6/49 lottery before it occurs. If anyone can help me attain the other 3 with some method I will share the jackpot with you!

What wheel should I play? What method? Show me and I will play it and try to win it!

I am serious! Just help me and I will share it with you because I would be happy with some of the jackpot than none of the jackpot at all. Would you?

Awesome! What should I do????

I know 3 numbers in the lottery before the drawing occurs?

Dont ask me how I know I will not tell you and Iam not crazy!

Just trust me on this without question!

I need a system to attain the other 3

Hopefully that will not cost too much to play!

So if you knew 3 of the 6 how would you play?

Anyone?

    rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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    Posted: February 25, 2012, 10:42 pm - IP Logged

    Welcome to Lottery Post Scientistman and Best of Luck to ya!LepYes NodThumbs Up

    I think you have the new record for the longest paragraph in a post, possibly in the world.

    I'll try and read a little more of it when my eyes stop crossing.


                                                 
                         
                                             

     

     

     

     

                                                                                                       

    "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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      Posted: February 25, 2012, 10:43 pm - IP Logged

      sorry i'll have to come back latter,your post is hurting my eyes, and is difficult to read.

      do you type 99 WPM.?

      Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds    -- Charles Mackay  LL.D.


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        Posted: February 25, 2012, 10:45 pm - IP Logged

        Everyone read my long post it may be long but it may be the best thing that ever happened to you on lottery post! It involves me sharing the jackpot with you.

          rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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          Posted: February 25, 2012, 10:54 pm - IP Logged

          Everyone read my long post it may be long but it may be the best thing that ever happened to you on lottery post! It involves me sharing the jackpot with you.

          Sign me up!

          But I'll have to read that first paragraph a little each day.

          Cuz it makes my eyes go buggy.    Crazy


                                                       
                               
                                                   

           

           

           

           

                                                                                                             

          "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                      --Edmund Burke

           

           

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            Posted: February 25, 2012, 10:54 pm - IP Logged

            Everyone read my long post it may be long but it may be the best thing that ever happened to you on lottery post! It involves me sharing the jackpot with you.

            have not read, it all yet,do you know what paragrafs are(know i misspelled) but my eyes are hurtin,

            if you here to mess w/ ppl. go away.

            Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds    -- Charles Mackay  LL.D.

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              Posted: February 25, 2012, 11:00 pm - IP Logged

              Welcome to Lottery Post Scientistman and Best of Luck to ya!LepYes NodThumbs Up

              I think you have the new record for the longest paragraph in a post, possibly in the world.

              I'll try and read a little more of it when my eyes stop crossing.

              going for the guinness book, or what ?

              my eyes still hurtin,

              Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds    -- Charles Mackay  LL.D.

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                Posted: February 25, 2012, 11:04 pm - IP Logged

                going for the guinness book, or what ?

                my eyes still hurtin,

                I feel like somebody threw sand in my eyes and tried to wash it out with ammonia and a wire brush.


                                                             
                                     
                                                         

                 

                 

                 

                 

                                                                                                                   

                "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                            --Edmund Burke

                 

                 

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                  Posted: February 25, 2012, 11:05 pm - IP Logged

                  Everyone read my long post it may be long but it may be the best thing that ever happened to you on lottery post! It involves me sharing the jackpot with you.

                  best thing to ever happen to any one, would be winning lottery w/out reading your manuel,

                  i'm gettin eyestrain, who are you really ????????????

                  Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds    -- Charles Mackay  LL.D.

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                    Posted: February 25, 2012, 11:27 pm - IP Logged

                    I would write to the lottery commission immediately, before a perfectly good game got destroyed.

                    2014 winnings

                    JAN -$48.50;  FEB  -$77.5; MAR -$18.05;  APR -$96.05 MAY -$61.10; JUN $-85; JUL $-88.9;


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                      Posted: February 25, 2012, 11:41 pm - IP Logged

                      The long post is a newspaper story about how a newspaper printed the winning numbers before the drawing occured.

                       

                      Then at the end is me. Sorry about it being so long I think I will delete it soon

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                        Posted: February 25, 2012, 11:45 pm - IP Logged

                        You commented in the first person. So...this is your story?

                        I tried to read it but the words  ran together and kept repeating.

                        Break it down.

                        Feeling,  PRICELESS!!!Banana

                        Peace be with you!!

                          rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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                          Posted: February 25, 2012, 11:49 pm - IP Logged

                          The long post is a newspaper story about how a newspaper printed the winning numbers before the drawing occured.

                           

                          Then at the end is me. Sorry about it being so long I think I will delete it soon

                          Just kiddin' ya, Scientistman.

                          Not that big a problem, I intend to read it.

                          Thanks for bringing it to our attention.


                                                                       
                                               
                                                                   

                           

                           

                           

                           

                                                                                                                             

                          "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                                      --Edmund Burke

                           

                           

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                            Posted: February 25, 2012, 11:49 pm - IP Logged

                            You commented in the first person. So...this is your story?

                            I tried to read it but the words  ran together and kept repeating.

                            Break it down.

                            Short version:

                            "Want to go half and half?

                            Just give me the winning numbers."


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                              Posted: February 25, 2012, 11:50 pm - IP Logged

                              You commented in the first person. So...this is your story?

                              I tried to read it but the words  ran together and kept repeating.

                              Break it down.

                              Yeah the lottery post posting software didnt copy right it. it wasnt suppose to all run together like that.

                              How do you delete this whole question I want it off lottery post

                              maybe some html code might be better when posting questions