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Quote: Originally posted by mcginnin56 on Jul 21, 2012
I've seen that name a few times, but don't remember any "big wins" from him in the last couple of years. I will double check that "online winners" now
and go back a few years.
Thanks for the input onlymoney!
january 2012
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$2080.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$27080.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$1040.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 3
$1660.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 3
$830.00
No
march 2012
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$2080.00
No
may 2012
ST. PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$3120.00
No
january 2011
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$2080.00
No
march 2011
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$4170.00
No
may 2011
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$2080.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 3
$1660.00
No
july 2011 THE 4160 I MENTIONED EARLIERXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$1040.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$27080.00
No
august 2011
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$2080.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 3
$3330.00
No
ST. PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 3
$3330.00
No
STEVE PLAYER THE SAME MONTH AUGUST 2011 WITH THAT 4160 I METIONED EARLIER
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
PowerBall
$1290.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Megabucks Plus
$831.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Mega Millions
$602.00
No
december 2011
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$27080.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 3
$830.00
No
There's much more, but you get the idea. no one in their right mind would spend more than they win on a regular basis. One time maybe to check a system out and cry for days on end lol but not for years on end. something is going on with steve's p-3 and especially p-4. I may have to check it out, but it costs too much for me. a couple of hundred, but may be worth it if it yields these kinds of figures....wow is all i can say.
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Quote: Originally posted by onlymoney on Jul 21, 2012
january 2012
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$2080.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$27080.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$1040.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 3
$1660.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 3
$830.00
No
march 2012
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$2080.00
No
may 2012
ST. PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$3120.00
No
january 2011
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$2080.00
No
march 2011
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$4170.00
No
may 2011
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$2080.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 3
$1660.00
No
july 2011 THE 4160 I MENTIONED EARLIERXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$1040.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$27080.00
No
august 2011
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$2080.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 3
$3330.00
No
ST. PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 3
$3330.00
No
STEVE PLAYER THE SAME MONTH AUGUST 2011 WITH THAT 4160 I METIONED EARLIER
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Pick 4
$4160.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
PowerBall
$1290.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Megabucks Plus
$831.00
No
PLAYER, STEVE
PLYMOUTH NH
Mega Millions
$602.00
No
december 2011
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 4
$27080.00
No
ST PIERRE, PETER
LEBANON NH
Pick 3
$830.00
No
There's much more, but you get the idea. no one in their right mind would spend more than they win on a regular basis. One time maybe to check a system out and cry for days on end lol but not for years on end. something is going on with steve's p-3 and especially p-4. I may have to check it out, but it costs too much for me. a couple of hundred, but may be worth it if it yields these kinds of figures....wow is all i can say.
You beat me to the punch, just went through the last year alone and coming up with over $102K in winnings!!!
He's got a current news letter out for a new pick3-4 system, thing is he has literally dozens of other pick 4 systems alone, that they have
developed in the past few years, so which one to go with?????????
Guess I need to do some more research.
Thanks for suppling all your figures. NOTE: looks like he's probably playing all straights as well.
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Quote: Originally posted by mcginnin56 on Jul 21, 2012
You beat me to the punch, just went through the last year alone and coming up with over $102K in winnings!!!
He's got a current news letter out for a new pick3-4 system, thing is he has literally dozens of other pick 4 systems alone, that they have
developed in the past few years, so which one to go with?????????
Guess I need to do some more research.
Thanks for suppling all your figures. NOTE: looks like he's probably playing all straights as well.
to know which one, like i said earlier, it's like the lastest one for the p-4 and p-3 but i'm not sure, it could be the one before the last one. but to verify, all you have to look for is the checks steve displays within the system explanation with 4,160 amount checks. of course the p-3 will not yield the same amounts, the 4160 is for the p-4 only. I could mention the name of the system here but i know it's against policy and for good reason, but i think i gave enough clues with the check amounts of 4160 that anyone should be able to find them on his site.
yes, it does look like starights only.
EDIT: it has to be the one that's about 2 years old because that's when peter was starting to win big. I'll check it out.
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Quote: Originally posted by onlymoney on Jul 21, 2012
to know which one, like i said earlier, it's like the lastest one for the p-4 and p-3 but i'm not sure, it could be the one before the last one. but to verify, all you have to look for is the checks steve displays within the system explanation with 4,160 amount checks. of course the p-3 will not yield the same amounts, the 4160 is for the p-4 only. I could mention the name of the system here but i know it's against policy and for good reason, but i think i gave enough clues with the check amounts of 4160 that anyone should be able to find them on his site.
yes, it does look like starights only.
EDIT: it has to be the one that's about 2 years old because that's when peter was starting to win big. I'll check it out.
Plenty of clues, agreed. Giving this guy way to much advertising, better quit now before this thread gets bombed out of existence.
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Quote: Originally posted by onlymoney on Jul 21, 2012
to know which one, like i said earlier, it's like the lastest one for the p-4 and p-3 but i'm not sure, it could be the one before the last one. but to verify, all you have to look for is the checks steve displays within the system explanation with 4,160 amount checks. of course the p-3 will not yield the same amounts, the 4160 is for the p-4 only. I could mention the name of the system here but i know it's against policy and for good reason, but i think i gave enough clues with the check amounts of 4160 that anyone should be able to find them on his site.
yes, it does look like starights only.
EDIT: it has to be the one that's about 2 years old because that's when peter was starting to win big. I'll check it out.
it's called the private stock system and it was cheaper than I remembered, only 75 bucks. i hope I don't get in trouble for doing this. But i know steve player's name is mentioned and allowed here on LP.
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Quote: Originally posted by onlymoney on Jul 21, 2012
to know which one, like i said earlier, it's like the lastest one for the p-4 and p-3 but i'm not sure, it could be the one before the last one. but to verify, all you have to look for is the checks steve displays within the system explanation with 4,160 amount checks. of course the p-3 will not yield the same amounts, the 4160 is for the p-4 only. I could mention the name of the system here but i know it's against policy and for good reason, but i think i gave enough clues with the check amounts of 4160 that anyone should be able to find them on his site.
yes, it does look like starights only.
EDIT: it has to be the one that's about 2 years old because that's when peter was starting to win big. I'll check it out.
Thanks very much, I had a catalog of his systems, think I threw away last month. Would be very interesting to track down that system, and roll
the dice on several live drawings to see what becomes of it. $$$$$$$$$
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Quote: Originally posted by onlymoney on Jul 21, 2012
it's called the private stock system and it was cheaper than I remembered, only 75 bucks. i hope I don't get in trouble for doing this. But i know steve player's name is mentioned and allowed here on LP.
I remember that name, think Ill swing by his site and check it out quickly. Let me know of anything else you find (if your interested?).
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Now, this is really amazing. I mean, the Steve Player stuff has been around since Adam & Eve and people are still new to it after all this time? Back in 2007 when I was well informed with most of the famed lotto systems, Steve's name was being tossed around and nobody achieved any worthwhile success with it even then. I've said this many times before , and, I'll say it again so that everyone will hopefully understand.
The method by which any one person approaches Pick3/4 is their own PERSONAL INTERPRETATION of the numbers which they're dealing with. Everyone will not see it the same way, or, understand how they arrived at that particular method. You must develop your own way of deciphering what you see and then approach it with a way that you can relate to for it to be effective. Most everyone sees numbers in a different way...even if they're looking at the same exact numbers. I have yet to see anyone accomplish what this guy or anyone else has duplicated.
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Although everyone knows two plus two equals four, I think Steve Player could charge a large fee and resell the answer again every time he comes up with a new and improved way to get it.
* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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Quote: Originally posted by Lucky Loser on Jul 21, 2012
Now, this is really amazing. I mean, the Steve Player stuff has been around since Adam & Eve and people are still new to it after all this time? Back in 2007 when I was well informed with most of the famed lotto systems, Steve's name was being tossed around and nobody achieved any worthwhile success with it even then. I've said this many times before , and, I'll say it again so that everyone will hopefully understand.
The method by which any one person approaches Pick3/4 is their own PERSONAL INTERPRETATION of the numbers which they're dealing with. Everyone will not see it the same way, or, understand how they arrived at that particular method. You must develop your own way of deciphering what you see and then approach it with a way that you can relate to for it to be effective. Most everyone sees numbers in a different way...even if they're looking at the same exact numbers. I have yet to see anyone accomplish what this guy or anyone else has duplicated.
L.L.
Anyone can claim the system they are selling is profitable, but the systems we usually hear about are without any explanations of how to use them. Gail Howard uses testimonies from players using her wheels, but that is no help determining which numbers to put into the wheel. From what I've read, the Steve Player group systems are more about betting strategies than picking numbers. One system claimed over a $5000 monthly profit if the player could accurately pick one digit several times a month in pick-3 games.
What I find extraordinary is someone spending $100 or more on a system with no guarantee it will work. If someone has the "holy grail: of lottery systems for sale, we should see a drastic decline in lottery profits because of the number of players using it. Either Player's system isn't the "holy grail" or very few players are using it.
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 22, 2012
Anyone can claim the system they are selling is profitable, but the systems we usually hear about are without any explanations of how to use them. Gail Howard uses testimonies from players using her wheels, but that is no help determining which numbers to put into the wheel. From what I've read, the Steve Player group systems are more about betting strategies than picking numbers. One system claimed over a $5000 monthly profit if the player could accurately pick one digit several times a month in pick-3 games.
What I find extraordinary is someone spending $100 or more on a system with no guarantee it will work. If someone has the "holy grail: of lottery systems for sale, we should see a drastic decline in lottery profits because of the number of players using it. Either Player's system isn't the "holy grail" or very few players are using it.
That Michigan couple that traveled to Massachusetts to play its game when it rolled down had about as sure of a money making system as it gets and a lot of people knew about it but couldn't afford to buy enough tickets to take advantage of it. Maybe Player's system is a "holy grail" that only his corporation can afford to play.
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 22, 2012
Anyone can claim the system they are selling is profitable, but the systems we usually hear about are without any explanations of how to use them. Gail Howard uses testimonies from players using her wheels, but that is no help determining which numbers to put into the wheel. From what I've read, the Steve Player group systems are more about betting strategies than picking numbers. One system claimed over a $5000 monthly profit if the player could accurately pick one digit several times a month in pick-3 games.
What I find extraordinary is someone spending $100 or more on a system with no guarantee it will work. If someone has the "holy grail: of lottery systems for sale, we should see a drastic decline in lottery profits because of the number of players using it. Either Player's system isn't the "holy grail" or very few players are using it.
My point(s) exactly, Stack. With this system claiming to be all the rage, I just don't see where players are just bragging about it and/or the results of it. Everyone will not be on the page with him in terms of his approach (system) because only he knows what he see's and why he's approaching it the way he does. Numbers are, and, always will be an INDIVIDUALIZED CONCEPT OF PERSONAL APPROACH due to different education levels and rationing with all players...PERIOD. Everyone sees and understands pretty much everything with different perspectives. Steve's deal probably can be done, but noone really knows how much money he had to spend to win.
Most of all, how long did it take for him to win so much money? Then, we must still subtract the totals losses he suffered BEFORE HE WON the money every time. This will be either the profit margin, the break even point, or a simple partial recovery of the total amount spent. Lots to be taken into consideration here. I said years ago that if a player is really serious about playing this game, then they must absolutely treat it as a business. As we all know, you're not making money until you've recovered what you have into it. I play online where the odds are much, much better and I win regularly. Still, I'm recovering funds I lost when I was playing local state with poor odds. Not much left to recover, but I'm still in the red a little bit.
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Quote: Originally posted by Lucky Loser on Jul 22, 2012
My point(s) exactly, Stack. With this system claiming to be all the rage, I just don't see where players are just bragging about it and/or the results of it. Everyone will not be on the page with him in terms of his approach (system) because only he knows what he see's and why he's approaching it the way he does. Numbers are, and, always will be an INDIVIDUALIZED CONCEPT OF PERSONAL APPROACH due to different education levels and rationing with all players...PERIOD. Everyone sees and understands pretty much everything with different perspectives. Steve's deal probably can be done, but noone really knows how much money he had to spend to win.
Most of all, how long did it take for him to win so much money? Then, we must still subtract the totals losses he suffered BEFORE HE WON the money every time. This will be either the profit margin, the break even point, or a simple partial recovery of the total amount spent. Lots to be taken into consideration here. I said years ago that if a player is really serious about playing this game, then they must absolutely treat it as a business. As we all know, you're not making money until you've recovered what you have into it. I play online where the odds are much, much better and I win regularly. Still, I'm recovering funds I lost when I was playing local state with poor odds. Not much left to recover, but I'm still in the red a little bit.
Gail Howard...Steve Player...what rip offs.
L.L.
If you read what i wrote I said it's understandable if steve is going into the red to sell his systems, but i don't recall any systems being sold by peter st. pierre and he's making a killing using steve's system. i doubt peter st. pierre is going into the red for months and years, unless he has so much money to throw away for no good reason. no one in their right mind who is an average joe will continuously throw money away.