Dallas,TX United States Member #152937 March 1, 2014 8 Posts Offline

Posted: March 1, 2014, 6:52 pm - IP Logged

First - HELLO! - I am new here, but I've been watching for a while. Briefly, this is about Scratch-Off Tickets in Texas. G-Tech is the company that makes the Texas tickets. This is about the Scratch Off tickets only. I've joined because I have (through MUCH effort and examination of my winning AND losing tickets) found a reason for all the information on the back of SO's. One day, I thought - what are all these numbers and I noticed subtle similarities with the Jackpot winners. I was really amazed that, for each winner of a certain game, the retail seller zip code, address, and the PACKET number (the 7-digit set of numbers with a bar-code under it - with the game # on the left and the ticket # on the right.

Also, there is a UPC code in the middle of the ticket on back. BUT - you see those two little numbers on far Left and far Right of the UPC? They play a role in this process I've discovered. I've won the Daily 4 TWICE in January, and more money than I spent on scratch off tix. Since I wrote the info underneath this, I have also discovered MORE info, and it is vital.

1. Certain games (game #'s) are best for certain zip codes. The seven-digit packet #, you also use that format for address, zip code because you can clearly see that on the jackpot page, the zip codes using my process, they all add up to the same number! The packet numbers all add up to the same number, as well, and - get this - the address. IF the address is 1703 S Main, you would treat it as a packet # - so, 0001703, same for zip code- 75205 would be 0075205. Once I try and explain this, you will see it. IF you count the two 0's with the 5-digit zip code? 0075205 = 1,2,7,5,2,3(this 0 is in the third position!), so again, 1,2,7,5,2,3, and 5. Let's see how close to "25" this is (I just picked a zip from thin air quickly) - (25 is the main number for zips for jackpots, I've found) 1+2+7=10, 5+2+3+5= 15, SOOO, 10+15 = 25! As do MOST ALL jackpot winning zips. IF you know how to work it right.

The two little numbers by UPC, they guide you within the packet number. So, let me just start out with the first bit of information I've discovered - all of this? 100% proven, works EVERY TIME. And, if you look at the jackpot winners? All of them will have similar addresses, zip code totals, and packet # totals. Look for yourself. But first - you MUST know some things - took me forever to get it - but not all numbers are indicative of their VALUE = V in my process. So, this allows you to KNOW where a win ticket is, or how far away from the ticket you bought right then - OR, the ticket you hold is a winner.

2. I have spent 100's of hours on this, and it's right on. It doesn't guarantee a JACKPOT, but it does show you where and IF a winning ticket is in your hand or the next one in the machine (machine use is almost mandatory, you don't want someone behind you messing up your ability to snag the next two tickets immediately - just knowing how far to next ticket, or YOUR ticket being a winner is a great edge. This is long, but if you read and understand this, you will see - everything you need to know is right on the back of that ticket. And, your ZIP CODE is a key element to determine if a game is good for your location. Also, I didn't mention this, make a LIST of retail sellers, especially the ones with GEM's, machines are best because you don't lose your spot in line and have access to the tickets NOW.

So, you can question my process - I will gladly answer any questions - and all info is 100% accurate. And thanks for the Friends Who Scratch team, letting me join this Lottery Post site. OK - read up - you will be surprised. I'll add the other items I've found since this post - ex: even the game number added up: #1525, 15+25 = 40 and 12+10 (this takes some adjustments on your part) as some are easy and some are not so easy. But, once you see, it will have you buying the right games, and you will KNOW what to look for, how to add numbers faster than HAL9000 and not buying, say 5 tickets, when you might only need one more or HAVE a winner NOW!

Oh, and if you REALLY want to find that Jackpot? THAT will take some effort, like all day and night, and some luck - the ONE & ONLY THING that is really RANDOM on Scratch Offs? Is the delivery of certain PACKS to certain Stores. That cannot be predicted, just like the drawing of numbers. That is random - but knowing how many winners are in a pack, stated by the Lotto people? That is NOT Random at all.

I have a short write-up concerning 'Random vs. the APPEARANCE of Random (Randomness) Any limits, knowledge of how much, how many ahead of time? That is NOT Random. The print machine does exactly what it is configured to do. Does G-Tech use an algorithm? I don't know, but I DO know the values of 0's, 1's and placement Values (such as 8=3 and 0's are the value of their spot in the 7-digit pack number. So, 0056021 would be 1-2-5-6-(3)-2-1. All 0's have a value and it's vitally important to calculate them right = this is how you find your TOTAL from the R-L UPC code #'s and where they are in the pack number. These two numbers, added together, will give you a winning number and you have options, which I'll discuss later, that work from low to high card numbers. It IS crazy, but I have worked it out - and it is VERY VERY consistent. It is HOW the process actually works.

Let's just start with one FACT and that is not all numbers have that value - the number 8 = 3. That is correct, all 8's are 3's! And, if you get an 8 in your pack #? It is a 3 AND you get to use that 3 position, say it's a 4 - you get to use that THREE TIMES. If the far right UPC number is 5? Then, 5's ARE value of 5 and you count R -> L five spots in the pack# AND, again, that spot-position is valued at one value OR you can use it FIVE times! It all depends on your other value (UPC Left) and your CARD NUMBER! - remember! the objective is to find IF your two Packet positions, with all VALUE OPTIONS add up to your card number - or tells you, it is the very NEXT card! You will get ex: L8 and R5 = go to pack # and starting with FIRST VALUE POSITION (start with the first of the 5 digits, you are working with FIVE DIGITS in the 7-digit pack number). Find L8, it's a 4 (you work from L - R). For the L UPC number, you work L-R. The right UPC number (R5) is a 5, so you count five positions from right to left, and say it's a 3. You now have 3 OR 15 (5x3=15) and same for other number L8(s) count and it's a 4 OR 12 remember - 3 value spots so 3x4=12 OR just 4. This all depends on your CARD NUMBER! I'll get into how to use these value positions with the x10 factor. If you want, your L8, which is a 4, it can ALSO be a 40 + 3 more 'uses', 40+4+4+4 is an example. Basics first, tho. All of this gets much easier after practice. You WILL know if your card is a winner or how far away the next one is.

Well, this forum is telling me that I can't copy-paste from Mozilla-Firefox into this area. CRAPOLA! Let me find a way and I will post again with the information. Process is long, and I can't re-type all of it. So, let me find a way to do this.

Back later - be SURE and look for my post - it is WELL WORTH your time. I am wondering if I can copy from Facebook Notes to this page? I don't want to change my preferences, so let me find a way, maybe open it up in Windows? Help appreciated. I'll get this up as soon as I find a quick way to post the information (in Word Doc). This is well-worth any help and effort. In the meantime, I'll see what I can do. Thanks.

Cash Crown

Any help on how to paste in from WORD or notepad is very appreciated!

Happyland United States Member #146350 September 1, 2013 872 Posts Offline

Posted: March 1, 2014, 7:25 pm - IP Logged

I find scratch-offs more fun than drawings games so I'll take a gander here. What advantage are you purporting to calculate? Your post is a little confusing. Are you saying that based on numbers on the back of a ticket you know whether the pack is worth playing or not?

We already know how many winners are in the pack. The lottery says so in the game technical procedures, which aren't written on the ticket. You can also determine how far away the next winner is based on the odds of winning, which are usually either stated on the ticket or the lottery website. What we're really interested in is the value of those winners.

There are finite zip codes in each state (not necessarily sequential either), so it would not be unusual to see the same ones show up as winners. Also, higher sales lead to more winners. So if zip code 22101 sells 10% of all tickets, more than likely they will have 10% of all winners. This could explain some of the repeated occurrences you are seeing.

What do you do for tickets that have no zeros in the pack number?

You must first buy a ticket to discover this information, unless you can convince a clerk to tell you beforehand. How is this any better than just buying a ticket? It will either be win or lose regardless of what numerology you apply.

Not being hypercritical or anything, just curious.

If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the payoff does. If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

Dallas,TX United States Member #152937 March 1, 2014 8 Posts Offline

Posted: March 2, 2014, 12:02 am - IP Logged

Ok, I wanted to post my entire 'how to' on this, but basically, the edge here is the ability to tell (by calculation) IF a ticket is a winner or not. It is an exact formula? Process? But, all I know is this - in designing this 'random' game, the only random thing is which packs get delivered to which stores. Am I saying that the Lotto folks KNOW where the jackpots are? YES, without a doubt. Because, if you examine the jackpot winners, ALL the winners have packet numbers (even various) that add up to an exact total - all of them, the SAME NUMBER! And, if you look at the seller zip code, it too adds up to say, 11, but mostly the number 25. Just look at any Texas Lotto Scratch off jackpot winners for a game and you can clearly (if you know the VALUES of how the total is arrived at) that all the winning jackpot tickets have the same numbers in common. Even the Address can show you which numbers will have a greater chance of winning a jackpot - but, that's only part of this.

I'm saying that based on using a process for every game, every card, that if applied correctly, you will get a number that tells you if it is a winning ticket. It is, and was, hard to figure out - but once you realize that 8=3 and 9=5 and the 0's (there are always zeros) that these positions in that 7-digit packet number can, if used with the two outside UPC #'s (they tell you which numbers in the packet # to use - that you can see IF your card is a winner or how many tix to a winning ticket. The time to figure out which packet TOTALS is only to look at previous winners and LOOK very closely, then run the totals and you can find out what is going on.

If I gave you, say, a ticket number: 00004379, do you know where the 5-digits (all cards with winners have a 5-digit number) at least here they do, but, usually, about 3-5 zeros are in front of 5 numbers. Now, do you ignore those zeros? NO! They have a value according to their POSITION in the line, the 7 spots on every ticket. I'm trying to figure out how to post the entire process, but in answer to your question - look at the jackpot winners FIRST. Then, if you know what = what, then you can figure out: OH, this game has doubles in every zip code (77022) and every ticket has a total, the zip codes usually total '25' for some reason. You use the two outside UPC small numbers to guide you to the packet number and WHICH numbers you have to work with. So, you usually end up with L8 (which is a 3), go to packet # and it is a 2. You have OPTIONS with this: Since 8=3 (and it does) then you have three 2's. Because there are many games with up to 125 tix per pack, a X10 factor is involved IF needed, but, you must use the CARD # as your guide to HOW you add up these two numbers.

I'll get L8 and R9, which I know means I take the L8 and starting on the 5-digits or if there are only 4 numbers, the zero before the 4 numbers, which has a value determined by R9 (=5, as 9's are 5, so you go to that first position of the 5 digits. Well, because it is the 3rd zero, it's VALUE is a 3. The L8, which equals 3, tells me that I have a single 3 OR options that equal 3 for that spot, so I could have 3+3+3 or 30+30+3 depending on your card number. The entire idea is to come up with the total that will tell you IF the card is a winner or not. And, if you come up with, say, 43, and your numbers add up to 44? Then you know the next ticket is a winner. You have to buy a ticket to find where you are and how to calculate the totals which will tell you which total is a winner. The reason for the multiple options, is there are many different winners in a pack. But, this allows you to work toward a total closest to your card number. It does NOT matter how you use your three options COMBINED with the other number, which has options. You will learn how to assess when to use x10 and when to use single use, just a 3 - BUT, if you do use 3+3, you MUST use the other +3. You have no choice. I have several examples and if I can figure out how to post them from my copy, I'll do it. The edge is this - you can 1. look at the jackpots and tell the totals of zip codes and packet numbers and look out for those in your area. But, in the meantime - you can tell with ANY scratch off, right then, if a ticket is a winner and HOW FAR till a winner from your ticket! This keeps you from spending more money, lost without a clue, and not knowing WHY you bought the next ticket.

It works wonderfully, but there IS a code-algorithm whatever - and it is the use of those two UPC numbers and the packet number. It's just so difficult to write this out without showing some examples. I'll figure out a way to copy=paste the entire process. It is tricky, too, when you have 'doubles' and side by side numbers, like 77 which you have two choices - if you use both, (14) then you MUST add a +1 only if side-by-side - if similar in a different spot, then you count it as a single, but it still, say your number is a 2, and the 2nd zero is valued at 2, then you MUST add that two, as well.

Once you see this, you will be very surprised. I was, and thought I was wrong, until I started getting it down - then had my wife buy 10 $5 tickets, and I picked out the winning tickets. There were only 3. But, I got them all and one ticket was a $50 winner.

That there IS a function at work tells me that it is NOT random, only the delivery of JACKPOT packs (and notice on these, the winning number is usually part of the packet or zip code, the first and last number, etc.) It will clear up once you see it and again - your best WAY to do this, is with the stand-alone GEMs, the machines. So, you can buy another ticket if need be without someone else beating you to the cashier.

More later on this, but for now, keep in mind = the zero positions are valued as their position in line and 8=3 and 9=5, this goes for every single number of every element of the game. Even the game #. Took me looking at winning vs. losing tickets to figure this out. I'm looking at game #s and I do believe that a zero in a game # = 2. Almost positive, but still working on that. More later and I'll figure out how to post how this works.

Happyland United States Member #146350 September 1, 2013 872 Posts Offline

Posted: March 2, 2014, 12:46 am - IP Logged

Because, if you examine the jackpot winners, ALL the winners have packet numbers (even various) that add up to an exact total - all of them, the SAME NUMBER!

I just checked 3 different games and the numbers don't all add up to the same totals. Yes, some share the same sum, I counted a good 5 or 6 that did. But there are also a finite number of sums using 7 digits of 0 to 9, so it should be expected that some match. I don't completely understand your method so I'm probably missing something, but from looking at those numbers I don't see any pattern or anything that would suggest prediction.

By the way, tickets are not store-targeted so using the address is pretty much useless. If they were store-targeted then the store would have the winning pack from the start of the game; however, they don't. They just re-order whenever they run low and are delivered a random pack from the warehouse. Now, a specific region may be targeting for a winner, I don't know. But going back to what I said before, it's no better than buying a ticket without information because you do not know exactly where the winner is. You could spend all your money chasing a ticket that may or may not even be in your area.

If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the payoff does. If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

Los Angeles, California United States Member #103816 January 5, 2011 1530 Posts Offline

Posted: March 2, 2014, 9:12 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by LottoMetro on March 2, 2014

Because, if you examine the jackpot winners, ALL the winners have packet numbers (even various) that add up to an exact total - all of them, the SAME NUMBER!

I just checked 3 different games and the numbers don't all add up to the same totals. Yes, some share the same sum, I counted a good 5 or 6 that did. But there are also a finite number of sums using 7 digits of 0 to 9, so it should be expected that some match. I don't completely understand your method so I'm probably missing something, but from looking at those numbers I don't see any pattern or anything that would suggest prediction.

By the way, tickets are not store-targeted so using the address is pretty much useless. If they were store-targeted then the store would have the winning pack from the start of the game; however, they don't. They just re-order whenever they run low and are delivered a random pack from the warehouse. Now, a specific region may be targeting for a winner, I don't know. But going back to what I said before, it's no better than buying a ticket without information because you do not know exactly where the winner is. You could spend all your money chasing a ticket that may or may not even be in your area.

I just checked 3 different games and the numbers don't all add up to the same totals. Yes, some share the same sum, I counted a good 5 or 6 that did.

Where is it that you have access to pack numbers for jackpot winning scratch tickets in Texas?

Dallas,TX United States Member #152937 March 1, 2014 8 Posts Offline

Posted: March 10, 2014, 3:17 am - IP Logged

Just go to Texas Lotto home page, go to Scratch Off games, pick a game where there has been jackpot winners. Then, click the highlighted number of jackpots claimed - all the info, seller, address, zip code of retailer, and pack # is displayed. People forget that ALL of these: Address, zip code and packet number use SEVEN positions. So, say the one I just looked at "Cash Multiplier", which has ONE jackpot winner, I found another interesting item. You must think outside-sideways and look at the game # and figure out how these numbers mesh. They do. Here's what I did tonight. I took the game #1585 and I added 15+85, which is really 15+35 (all 8's are 3's) and it comes out 15+35=50. So, I wrote that down on the list. THEN, since almost every game begins with a '1', I took the 1 and 8(3) 13 and added 55, so 13+55 (which is numbers 1 and 3 + 2 and 4) and it totals 68. I then went to the jackpot info just to see if anything jumped out. It did. All of this is not coincidence - the pack # for winner was 14268. See anything? The zip code was 76051. The pack number ended in 68, the 13+55, and I did it with another game, which I'll get to in a minute. So, I dug around some more.

I checked the zip code with the pack #, zip 76051, pack # 14268, game # 1585. First of all, the two digits of the game # =68, the last two digits of the pack #, leaving 142. I then looked at the zip (remember, zip is 00 76051) always 7 digits - but, just work with me here. 142 and 68. 1+4+2 = 7, 4+2 = 6. Ok, something is clicking. 76, now the 0 which with 0076051 is in the 3 spot. How does that fit in? I looked at the game # again. Then the Pack # so we used:

1. 1+4+2 =7

2. 1 is gone, so 4+2=6

3. 4 is now gone, leaving 2. Lone 0's are 2's, but also, back to game # - 1585, 1 is gone. 585 - look - 5-8(3)=2 and lone 0's =2 and 2 =0

4. Now, again I'm digging here. 760, now 5. 158 in game # is gone, but remains a 5! 7605, now where is the 1? Back to game #1585. Back to earlier post - LIKE numbers, such as 5 and 5, you always add +1, which I haven't done yet. So, using the game # (there are more various ways, later in another post) I add the +1 from the two 5's. Now, you got 76051. I'm truly looking for ways that the info given for jackpot winners can help in predicting HOW these numbers mesh. I'll be back with some more stuff tomorrow. I'm looking for consistent ways to find how to determine winners, that's it. And, in adding, don't forget the values of 0, 8, 9 etc into their real value. So many ways to find clues and haven't even gotten to the barcode yet. But, I will. Won Thursday night $1420 on Pick 3 combo 3-4-7, came up twice in one day! So, I'm researching, don't hold my feet to the fire - I have made some discoveries, and they are working fairly well. More tomorrow.

Los Angeles, California United States Member #103816 January 5, 2011 1530 Posts Offline

Posted: March 10, 2014, 11:02 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by CashCrown on March 10, 2014

Just go to Texas Lotto home page, go to Scratch Off games, pick a game where there has been jackpot winners. Then, click the highlighted number of jackpots claimed - all the info, seller, address, zip code of retailer, and pack # is displayed. People forget that ALL of these: Address, zip code and packet number use SEVEN positions. So, say the one I just looked at "Cash Multiplier", which has ONE jackpot winner, I found another interesting item. You must think outside-sideways and look at the game # and figure out how these numbers mesh. They do. Here's what I did tonight. I took the game #1585 and I added 15+85, which is really 15+35 (all 8's are 3's) and it comes out 15+35=50. So, I wrote that down on the list. THEN, since almost every game begins with a '1', I took the 1 and 8(3) 13 and added 55, so 13+55 (which is numbers 1 and 3 + 2 and 4) and it totals 68. I then went to the jackpot info just to see if anything jumped out. It did. All of this is not coincidence - the pack # for winner was 14268. See anything? The zip code was 76051. The pack number ended in 68, the 13+55, and I did it with another game, which I'll get to in a minute. So, I dug around some more.

I checked the zip code with the pack #, zip 76051, pack # 14268, game # 1585. First of all, the two digits of the game # =68, the last two digits of the pack #, leaving 142. I then looked at the zip (remember, zip is 00 76051) always 7 digits - but, just work with me here. 142 and 68. 1+4+2 = 7, 4+2 = 6. Ok, something is clicking. 76, now the 0 which with 0076051 is in the 3 spot. How does that fit in? I looked at the game # again. Then the Pack # so we used:

1. 1+4+2 =7

2. 1 is gone, so 4+2=6

3. 4 is now gone, leaving 2. Lone 0's are 2's, but also, back to game # - 1585, 1 is gone. 585 - look - 5-8(3)=2 and lone 0's =2 and 2 =0

4. Now, again I'm digging here. 760, now 5. 158 in game # is gone, but remains a 5! 7605, now where is the 1? Back to game #1585. Back to earlier post - LIKE numbers, such as 5 and 5, you always add +1, which I haven't done yet. So, using the game # (there are more various ways, later in another post) I add the +1 from the two 5's. Now, you got 76051. I'm truly looking for ways that the info given for jackpot winners can help in predicting HOW these numbers mesh. I'll be back with some more stuff tomorrow. I'm looking for consistent ways to find how to determine winners, that's it. And, in adding, don't forget the values of 0, 8, 9 etc into their real value. So many ways to find clues and haven't even gotten to the barcode yet. But, I will. Won Thursday night $1420 on Pick 3 combo 3-4-7, came up twice in one day! So, I'm researching, don't hold my feet to the fire - I have made some discoveries, and they are working fairly well. More tomorrow.

Cash Crown

Oh yeah, I forgot how detailed TX is in their publication of lottery data, more than any other state.

I don't buy the pack number to zip code association, as that would be a random allocation based on store orders of packs. Otherwise, if it was targeted, then TLC would be guilty of fraud.

But let's separate your two different analysis:

1. location of top prize tickets

2. identification of winning tickets within a pack

1. As far as locating where top prize tickets are, does the knowledge of the pack number of winners, which TLC publishes, help in providing a very small edge? This may be something that Joan Ginther used in her targeted heavy play to achieve those multiple scratch top prize winners:

2. For the identification of winning tickets within a pack, is it possible you can discover the underlying algorithm of placement of winners based on other indicators in the ticket printing? Possibly, as this is something that has been done before by Mohan Srivastava:

But be careful on some of your number crunching that you aren't chasing your tail. Like on the ticket UPC codes or ticket serial number, be aware that Check Digits are used, so there will be some association of certain digits due to a predetermined algorithm:

Dallas,TX United States Member #152937 March 1, 2014 8 Posts Offline

Posted: March 11, 2014, 12:31 pm - IP Logged

Hey all - first of all, let me diffuse something in my posts - I am not crazy, LOL! I have spent decades as a bookie (early days) and from MLB and NFL, I have a good way with numbers, I see things and sometimes, it can't be explained easily (or at ALL!). I am an avid horse player, less now that Lone Star takes 20% off the top (GREED) so, I will sometimes go to spend a day playing Belmont, Hollywood Park and the simulcast building is a place to be left alone - no one bugs you. Most people make things much harder than they are - For instance, history of a horse, a race is just that - unless you SAW the race, you can't get a good read on what happened. Knowing some hard facts (I am familiar, spoke with a trainer who specializes in Fillies-Mares in Maiden races) and I have an edge by playing every one of his entries. In the long run, I know this favors ME! Other times, people spend too much time on all the speed figures, etc. The most important figure I look for is a bullet workout - speaks volumes about condition and look at what the Race IS! - If it is a 10,000 claimer for 3-4 yr olds, then look for horses that RAN their last race(s) at that level - often, you'll see some Stakes or Allowance horse that is dropping DOWN in this race, and going off at 1/5 - pure death - even if you do win, but you have to ask WHY? It's not to win, usually, so play the horses that ran the exact type race last time as the one today. Look at their odds over the course of the last 4 races. Consistent drops, gains on lead horse, etc, that is telling - anyway, I'm making a point here. Find a 10K claimer, solid, look for jock change (UP) but if not, best if same jock - then look at his progress with workouts and make <snip> sure he runs well at the distance. If he lost gaining at 6 furlongs, a 6.5 race might be the ticket - you compare as you whittle down the possible winners. Against each other, and the RULES of the race as stated in the program. Look for EXACT race last time out. Trainer feels that is the best distance, money level, and if in condition, it's a good play - esp with a bullet workout. Forget all the class drops, there is a reason for that - usually not good reasons.

Last night, I won both the Pick 3 and Daily 4 Texas Lotto night play. 4-5-0 Pick 3 and a Combo (24 way) on 7-3-1-4, came in 7-3-4-1 and had $5 sum it up, which only paid $42 ( I play box when going for the big SUMITUP payouts, staying with totals of either 1-4 or 36-33 on Daily 4. Simple box with $5 or $10 SUM and 3or34 pays $1250 for $5, 2or35 pays $2500 and 1or36 pays $6,250 for $5 play. Now, these balls, say they were a color instead of a number - they have IMHO just as good a chance of hitting as any other total. So, I'll throw those in, too. You must play a regular play of some kind, so I'll play a .50 box only, then $5-10 on total. Eventually, you will win one of those, heck, even the 4or33 pays $741 for $5 play - something to think about. I've had so much luck lately, and I'm going today to collect. Looked at Lotto Sales Report, and on the Daily 4 night play, only 2 winners :) $5000. If I like the numbers, I'll combo them and lay low on sum it up (or not at all). I used my fav #'s last night 1-3-4-7 because they fit into the date: 03-10-2014. I've won twice this way. Day is most important, then year. I first use this: xx-xx-xx+xx, the month, day, and year. I first use add the first X of each set, then the 2nd x of each set. Then, I work backward and use XX+XX -XX-XX and that is how I came up with numbers - And, there are different ways to look at numbers. The year, 2014 can add up to 34 (20+14) or 35 (20+1+4). Slight difference, so look at ways to get the most of SUM UPs, by playing a simple box then more on the lowest and highest totals - you can cash BIG, just the other night, coupla weeks ago, 9-9-9-9 came in. Paid $6,250 on a $5 ticket.

Sorry to deviate from topic, my bad - to the questions above from Jon D.

1. Yes, because if you look at the jackpot winners, they all have some similar numbers in common, or a total in the address-zip or something as simple as doubles in the pack #, SOMETHING is there AND REMEMBER!!!! THIS IS VITAL!!! Don't forget to use 7-DIGITS! for the address, zip and pack #. If the zip is 77025, remember it is 00-77024, with zeros by position, so 1,2-77025. Why is this important? Because, you have noticed that 3 of the previous winners had zips that had '12' as a total (this is the hardest part to get people to understand), so 77024 should add up to the '12' also, right? Well, if you look at it, add it up, you get 7+7+3(remember, 0's are valued by POSITION in the line of 7 digits!)+2+4 = 23. What? But, wait, you have done it incorrectly.

77024 = Rules. Doubles in zips count as +1, so the two 7's are just a +1, remember always, you are looking for the '12', it's there. Now, the 0 =v3, so working backward, 4+2+3 = 9, ok? Now, the 77 = +1, so 9+1 =10. Uh oh, we be outta numbers - NO NO NO - remember the 00? Especially when you see DOUBLES, SIDE BY SIDE, you will KNOW you are going to the first 0's. So, we are at 10, the next (working R-L) is a 0, in the 2nd position. +2 - AH HA!

4+2+3+1(77) then the 2nd 0 =+2. 10+2 = 12. There it is. It works, I swear, on ALL games, maybe with a different total '11' or something. But, if you examine each one, you WILL find the commenality of the winners. Sometimes, just glance at the pack #, and look for doubles, a 6, or pack ends with a 9 or a 2 digit total 4+5 that equals nine. It's simply finding what is COMMON and SIMILAR with the jackpot winners, so this should also apply to any tix you purchase - I write down the totals for address, zip, pack #s and the winning number is usually found in the pack # the first number, or the last number. They differ, but yes, it DOES give you an edge because you KNOW what to look for.

Save the loser tickets. They will give you a 'range' of good and bad - say "Gimme 5" game, you notice all tix that are in the 40''s, 60's seem to lose more. Write that down. You should have a printed sheet with ALL this info, so when you buy a ticket, you KNOW whether to stick with it, or end up with a loser - but, those losers - KEEP THEM! They provide info AND can be used during tax time - you can use them for the tax you paid on winnings up TO the amount you paid in for winners.

Ms. Ginther knew, kept records, of the games and looked and waited for certain packets that had the similar totals, doubles, etc and she would probably buy ALL the tickets. I am CERTAIN she did target the games from data she compiled from the jackpot info. IF you think about it? It is the ONLY WAY she could have pulled this off.

YES - other identifiers - two of which I'm working on - ONE is the BARCODE under the pack #. I have found, not yet ready to announce, but close, that under your ticket number? You should find 4 BOLD thick Lines and 6 thin lines - exactly - on winners. One thing for sure, a single BOLD line directly under a number in your card #? That is a winning number, no doubt - you can count the thin lines on the others - and TWO bold lines together under a number is a winner - the main thing is this - these lines CAN NOT! go beyond the space under the card # - they can't go anywhere but under the space / draw a line/ of the card #. You will find, if you look at your winners, these 4 bold and 6 thin lines. And, as a heads-up, look under the game # - the bar code shows you what the lines look like for each number - so, you can see that '1' has a BOLD line and to the right a single thin line - then look at your pack number - you should see the same lines under the like number. So, that is a very good predictor, but I'm working on that more.

MOST UPC ticket codes have an '8' on far left and 1-9, even 0 on the far right. The Lotto Agency has started to put an extra '1' in the pack #, so you see 6 digits, as to confuse you I suppose. Ways around that. Look at the RIGHT number first. Like yesterday, I got an L8(3) all 8's are 3's, and a R8(3) - this means you got the same number twice. So, this isn't really good - unless You have similar numbers in the pack#, but I got a 6 and another 6. My ticket was an ODD number - I knew then -automatic loser. Can't get to odd number with what I had. I figured for the next number, but NO similar numbers in pack and even using L8 3x6 and R8 3x6 or L8=60 and R8 = 6+6+6, I still couldn't get it to mesh. A dead pack, or a bad pack if you get duplicate UPC guide numbers to the same number with NO similar numbers in pack. Forget that pack.

Closing - YES - checking the common, similar jackpot info will help you to I.D. good packs, especially if your numbers are 0's, 1's and 2's. You are more likely to be able to have mutiple winners in a row (I had FOUR in a row once). One more thing that is important - IF you come across a good pack (looking at your records), and feel like it has potential, buy more tickets. I identified a good pack, at an address of 1703, zip fit and total was right-on, and I asked the cashier "how many tix you got left? 14 or 15 at $5 - "I bought them all". The numbers were eerily close, but there is a special symbol in that game where you hit a red diamond and win all on the card. No jackpot, but I DID hit the Win All symbol and the last number was bottom left, $500 + all the $10, $20 and other 14 spots. So, yes, it does help to follow the common-similar-trend of jackpot winners for each game. Ms. Ginther PROVED this, and I am certain this was how she did this. Use a GEM machine, if possible. That way, you are at the machine and can buy more cards without someone snagging one ahead of you. I hope this helps.

I have more info, but go to each game, find the totals of address, zips, and pack #'s - it can be done, I do it. Make sure you have the right totals and any other characteristics like every pack has a 6 or ends in 9 or something that sticks out. And, if you really look, you can SEE where the winning ticket #was, how they made that the winner - I know this works. I think people forget to use the 0's, especially on addresses, like 103 S. Main, which would have 0000103 and the last 0 =V5. So, every number, work it with 7-digits and remember some rules about doubles (77)= v1 and similar, but not side-by-side, you Add like 4 +4 then +1 IF they are not side-by-side. Also, and this is for another post - use the number between similar numbers, like if you had 76462, you use the '4' between the sixes FIRST then continue to the left until you reach the total you are looking for. And, don't forget - LIKE numbers must be counted in, so if you had R8(3) and number was '3', and there is another 3, then you could have R8(3) = 3+3+3 then +3 for the LIKE number - and in most cases, you have 12, but you add the other 3 AGAIN as a separate, unique number. Only, it is counted as a '3' TOTAL. Not like the R8 3 (which you get to use 3 times, like 30+3+3, etc.) GO get 'em. EVEN the GAME # has some unique meaning, and I'm working on that - most games start with a '1', leave that out - and add up the remaining three numbers - this is figured into the process, but I'm still working on a short-cut and I believe this could be part of that.

Cash Crown - on my way to Lotto Headquarters! Another T-shirt! IF I had a signature - motto - it would be "Bet a little to win a lot" and be patient. This approach works if you can maintain a level head and not waver. You are right about the algorithm hitting 'dead spots', but try to avoid them and use only $5,$10 or $20, and then move on to another game, until that packet is gone.

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Jacksonville Florida United States Member #23018 October 6, 2005 768 Posts Offline

Posted: March 11, 2014, 12:55 pm - IP Logged

"IF I had a signature - motto - it would be "Bet a little to win a lot" and be patient. This approach works if you can maintain a level head and not waver."

Wise words ... where most gamblers get into trouble is chasing wins and continue spending beyond what they should. Knowing when to quit is just as important as knowing when to play...

Dallas,TX United States Member #152937 March 1, 2014 8 Posts Offline

Posted: March 11, 2014, 3:45 pm - IP Logged

Duck - So true. Bet a little to win a lot. You must manage your money. Never get too down after a loss or too high after a big win. Steady use of your experience should keep you in the black. Don't chase - don't GET in the position of chasing.

Patience pays off. For Lotto, go for the high payouts on winnable games (not Mega or Powerball) but Pick 3 and Daily 4. Cash Five is good because hitting two numbers still pays $2, hit 3 and win $10-$20 and hit 4 (which I did 2 weeks ago) and got $431.

For Daily 4 or Pick 3, work with this on at least one of your plays: the month, day and year. I did last night and it worked like magic. So, say today is 03-11-2014 = xx-xx-xx+xx, four sets of two numbers. Most important is the DAY, then Year then month. Understand that there are different ways to work the numbers, ex: 2014 could be 20+14 = 34 or 20 +1+4 = 25 or the way I like is 20+10+4 or 0+14 or 0+5. You can get numbers - ideas - combinations that work, so today is 03-11-2014.

I would, for Pick 3, play 311, 325, 345 or work backward using the 2nd x of your sets (xx-xx-xx+xx) 4+0+1+3 = 8, then the 1st x in sets: 0+1+2+1=4. Now look for something to go with 4 and 8, say the total of ALL - 3+11(count as +1 or +2)+2+0+1+4 = 11. Well now, 11 has shown up as total AND day. So, next I'm looking for another '1' and there it is: 1+1+1 =3 the Month. Also a golden opportunity to play 7-1-1, the total of year + the total of all and the day. So, I would play 711, 111, 435 and lastly 9-6-6, a good one: 20-11=9, 20-(3+11(14)=6 and 20-14=6. So, Pick 3 evening and night

7-1-1, 1+1+1 (load up on sumitup 3), 4-3-5, and 9-6-6 which I would COMBO (two LIKE numbers) as well as 711. 1+1+1 could be exact + $5-10 sum it up.

Daily 4: 3+4+4+1, 3+4+1+1, and last 6+9+1+7 = 23 OR

11+3 = 14, 20+14 = 34 - so, 20-14=6, 20-14=6, 14-14=0 and 28-20=8 resulting in 6+6+0+8 =24

texas United States Member #119197 November 16, 2011 1916 Posts Offline

Posted: March 11, 2014, 4:08 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by CashCrown on March 11, 2014

Duck - So true. Bet a little to win a lot. You must manage your money. Never get too down after a loss or too high after a big win. Steady use of your experience should keep you in the black. Don't chase - don't GET in the position of chasing.

Patience pays off. For Lotto, go for the high payouts on winnable games (not Mega or Powerball) but Pick 3 and Daily 4. Cash Five is good because hitting two numbers still pays $2, hit 3 and win $10-$20 and hit 4 (which I did 2 weeks ago) and got $431.

For Daily 4 or Pick 3, work with this on at least one of your plays: the month, day and year. I did last night and it worked like magic. So, say today is 03-11-2014 = xx-xx-xx+xx, four sets of two numbers. Most important is the DAY, then Year then month. Understand that there are different ways to work the numbers, ex: 2014 could be 20+14 = 34 or 20 +1+4 = 25 or the way I like is 20+10+4 or 0+14 or 0+5. You can get numbers - ideas - combinations that work, so today is 03-11-2014.

I would, for Pick 3, play 311, 325, 345 or work backward using the 2nd x of your sets (xx-xx-xx+xx) 4+0+1+3 = 8, then the 1st x in sets: 0+1+2+1=4. Now look for something to go with 4 and 8, say the total of ALL - 3+11(count as +1 or +2)+2+0+1+4 = 11. Well now, 11 has shown up as total AND day. So, next I'm looking for another '1' and there it is: 1+1+1 =3 the Month. Also a golden opportunity to play 7-1-1, the total of year + the total of all and the day. So, I would play 711, 111, 435 and lastly 9-6-6, a good one: 20-11=9, 20-(3+11(14)=6 and 20-14=6. So, Pick 3 evening and night

7-1-1, 1+1+1 (load up on sumitup 3), 4-3-5, and 9-6-6 which I would COMBO (two LIKE numbers) as well as 711. 1+1+1 could be exact + $5-10 sum it up.

Daily 4: 3+4+4+1, 3+4+1+1, and last 6+9+1+7 = 23 OR

11+3 = 14, 20+14 = 34 - so, 20-14=6, 20-14=6, 14-14=0 and 28-20=8 resulting in 6+6+0+8 =24

Good Luck,

Cash Crown

Hey CashCrown, Congrats on your p/3 and d/4 wins. There is a Texas pick3 and a daily4 Thread it sure would be helpful to see your numbers posted. Hope you will visit and make some predictions!

Florida United States Member #151017 January 5, 2014 57 Posts Offline

Posted: March 12, 2014, 1:53 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by grandmadec on March 11, 2014

Please post a picture of a ticket and give an example would like to compare it to Ohio tickets, thank you.

I also would like to see an example of this to compare to FL. Does Scientific Games have the contract for Texas tickets like FL? I would think that the TLC were not the ones that created the algorithm and left that to the vendor and I doubt they develop one for each indivdual state, though it might be possible.

I tried following the match/exercises, but I'm getting lost tracking some of the numbers. Maybe the TX tickets are different? But I'd like to see if there is a similar pattern in FL because there have also been muliple jackpot wins by the same people here, the most recent of which was a lady who won both a $5 Million and $1 Million prize 2 months apart in the 100X Game at the same Publix in Apopka. No one is ever going to convince me that distribution is totally "random".