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Think

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Aug 28, 2018, 8:48 pm

I liked the 6/40, 6/44, and 6/47 Ball drawn games and the 56/46 Megamillions game but this new Super Raffle has got to be one of the Best games the Michigan lottery has ever offered!

If they would double the top prizes and keep the lower prizes the same but double the Number of $100,000 and lower prizes and charge $100 per ticket I would play only that game twice per year.

I don't understand why the people who play $20 and $30 scratchers aren't jumping all over the $50 Raffle tickets.

If you are reading this and you are in a border state then check out the Official Michigan Lottery web site about the Raffle.

This Raffle is one of the 3 Best games Michigan has ever offered and just may be the best Raffle ever offered by any Lottery in the U.S.

Why haven't the tickets sold out? I don't understand.

Maybe Michigan should do these Raffles quarterly so long time players who appreciate how great this Super Raffle is can have something to save for and play. Maybe, as I suggested earlier in this post, they could do a $100 version twice a year but let the players know well in advance so they could scratch up the money.
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Aug 28, 2018, 11:29 pm

Oops, before anyone asks, I am working on the 6/47 right now. It is one of the bigger jackpots since 2009. It seems like everything worth doing all happens at the same time!

The Fantasy Five just had a record Jackpot and the 6/47 is in the top ten Jackpots in the last 10 years and then they come out with the Super Raffle! Once the 6/47 is won (by me )I hope that the games will reverse the trend and get better like this Raffle has.
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Aug 28, 2018, 11:40 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Think on Aug 28, 2018
Oops, before anyone asks, I am working on the 6/47 right now. It is one of the bigger jackpots since 2009. It seems like everything worth doing all happens at the same time!

The Fantasy Five just had a record Jackpot and the 6/47 is in the top ten Jackpots in the last 10 years and then they come out with the Super Raffle! Once the 6/47 is won (by me )I hope that the games will reverse the trend and get better like this Raffle has.

I was in Michigan and bought one raffle ticket. If I go back before they’re all sold out I might pick up another one. It looks like they’ve sold almost 1/3 of the tickets so far. The top two prizes ($4 million and $2 million) being annuity prizes and not cash prizes seems to be a sticking point with some people I have talked to about the game but it is fine by me.

Am I correct in thinking that since it is a Michigan only game it can be claimed anonymously?

I also picked up some 6/47 lotto tickets. One thing I like about Michigan is you can buy 60 draws in advance!

Good luck!

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Aug 29, 2018, 8:57 am

Quote: Originally posted by Think on Aug 28, 2018
I liked the 6/40, 6/44, and 6/47 Ball drawn games and the 56/46 Megamillions game but this new Super Raffle has got to be one of the Best games the Michigan lottery has ever offered!

If they would double the top prizes and keep the lower prizes the same but double the Number of $100,000 and lower prizes and charge $100 per ticket I would play only that game twice per year.

I don't understand why the people who play $20 and $30 scratchers aren't jumping all over the $50 Raffle tickets.

If you are reading this and you are in a border state then check out the Official Michigan Lottery web site about the Raffle.

This Raffle is one of the 3 Best games Michigan has ever offered and just may be the best Raffle ever offered by any Lottery in the U.S.

Why haven't the tickets sold out? I don't understand.

Maybe Michigan should do these Raffles quarterly so long time players who appreciate how great this Super Raffle is can have something to save for and play. Maybe, as I suggested earlier in this post, they could do a $100 version twice a year but let the players know well in advance so they could scratch up the money.

Let me start by saying I LOVE RAFFLES!

That said, $50 a ticket is pricey. Just two top prizes is a little thin too when you consider Pennsylvania used to offer four top prizes of 1 million dollars to each winner out of a possible total of 500,000 tickets sold at $20 each for their raffles. It was a lump sum payout. (minus taxes) Odds were 125,000 to 1. PA's raffle was held twice per year for about twenty years until this year. (Hope they bring it back for next New Years. Pennsylvania didn't have a raffle for July 4th this year.)

I suspect Michigan players might be holding back on buying tickets until almost the last week they're on sale, just as they do/did in Pennsylvania and also Connecticut. During the last week of ticket sales, there is/was a massive rush to buy tickets. (That happened in every raffle held in both Connecticut and Pennsylvania.) It's probably due to the fact that players just don't want to commit $20 or $50 for a ticket until they absolutely have to. (Fear of missing out) Players in Michigan will probably do the same thing. Don't worry, it's going to sell out, it's just very early in the ticket sales cycle. If it doesn't sell out completely, it will come very close to selling out. That's a good thing too because by not selling out, everybody's odds of winning a prize are reduced.

Good luck... hang in there...watch the Michigan Lottery website... as it got closer to the drawing date, The PA Lottery would put a big banner on their website letting players know how many ticket were yet to be sold. During the last week of sales ticket sales, sales would skyrocket to 20,000 per week, but all during the sales cycle prior to the last week, they'd average about 2,000 tickets per week sold. G5

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Aug 29, 2018, 9:21 am

Quote: Originally posted by GiveFive on Aug 29, 2018
Let me start by saying I LOVE RAFFLES!

That said, $50 a ticket is pricey. Just two top prizes is a little thin too when you consider Pennsylvania used to offer four top prizes of 1 million dollars to each winner out of a possible total of 500,000 tickets sold at $20 each for their raffles. It was a lump sum payout. (minus taxes) Odds were 125,000 to 1. PA's raffle was held twice per year for about twenty years until this year. (Hope they bring it back for next New Years. Pennsylvania didn't have a raffle for July 4th this year.)

I suspect Michigan players might be holding back on buying tickets until almost the last week they're on sale, just as they do/did in Pennsylvania and also Connecticut. During the last week of ticket sales, there is/was a massive rush to buy tickets. (That happened in every raffle held in both Connecticut and Pennsylvania.) It's probably due to the fact that players just don't want to commit $20 or $50 for a ticket until they absolutely have to. (Fear of missing out) Players in Michigan will probably do the same thing. Don't worry, it's going to sell out, it's just very early in the ticket sales cycle. If it doesn't sell out completely, it will come very close to selling out. That's a good thing too because by not selling out, everybody's odds of winning a prize are reduced.

Good luck... hang in there...watch the Michigan Lottery website... as it got closer to the drawing date, The PA Lottery would put a big banner on their website letting players know how many ticket were yet to be sold. During the last week of sales ticket sales, sales would skyrocket to 20,000 per week, but all during the sales cycle prior to the last week, they'd average about 2,000 tickets per week sold. G5

Something else I should have added to my post above....

The Pennsylvania Lottery was well aware of sluggish ticket sales early in the sales cycle and actually did something to entice players to buy tickets sooner in the sales cycle than they normally had or did.

PA introduced "Early Bird" drawings every two weeks prior to the drawing. (Tickets were usually available for sale for three months prior to the drawing.) Every two weeks until the drawing they'd take the tickets sold only during that particular two week period and hold a drawing for $100,000. So if you bought a ticket in the last two weeks, your ticket was entered in the Early Bird Drawing. Then they'd do it again for the next two weeks, and again for the next two weeks etc. It worked well. Tickets sold out sooner than they ever had. That big mad rush at the end when weekly ticket sales volume spiked drastically upward still happened, but fewer tickets were available because more had been sold earlier in the sales cycle. G5

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Aug 29, 2018, 2:44 pm

Quote: Originally posted by LottoLucy on Aug 28, 2018
I was in Michigan and bought one raffle ticket. If I go back before they’re all sold out I might pick up another one. It looks like they’ve sold almost 1/3 of the tickets so far. The top two prizes ($4 million and $2 million) being annuity prizes and not cash prizes seems to be a sticking point with some people I have talked to about the game but it is fine by me.

Am I correct in thinking that since it is a Michigan only game it can be claimed anonymously?

I also picked up some 6/47 lotto tickets. One thing I like about Michigan is you can buy 60 draws in advance!

Good luck!

Yep, I do believe that since it is Michigan only that you don't have to have your name released.

As far as the Prizes, I believe that the Raffles have a 60% payout which would make the top three prizes $2,600,000 cash and $1,300,000 and $1,300,000 cash.

I believe the Michigan $30 scratchers are $2,538,068 cash with odds of 2 million to 1. The $20 scratchers are about $1,269,034 with odds of about 2 million to 1. Also, very few (like 1 or maybe 2) of the $20, and $30 scratchers have ever had a second prize of $100,000 or more.

I have my tickets for this evenings 6/47 draw
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Aug 30, 2018, 9:46 am

This sounds great. Id buy at least 1 if I could. I live about 800 miles away from Michigan.
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Quote: Originally posted by Genome on Aug 30, 2018
This sounds great. Id buy at least 1 if I could. I live about 800 miles away from Michigan.

Well, over half the tickets are now sold! I wonder how many people from Ontario are buying tickets?

I have mine plus I am knocking myself out on the Michigan 6/47 right now.
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Sep 6, 2018, 12:05 am

I'll never understand why people go gaga over raffles. Compared to lotto games relative to the buy in the payouts on raffles stink.

This one is a $50 ticket for a $4,000,000 prize.

So each dollar wins $80,000. Any lottery that had an $80,000 jackpot for a $50 ticket wouldn't get too far at all.

And I'll say it again, people who say they hate quick picks and can't wait to buy a raffle ticket really make me wonder.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Sep 6, 2018, 11:56 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Think on Sep 5, 2018
Well, over half the tickets are now sold! I wonder how many people from Ontario are buying tickets?

I have mine plus I am knocking myself out on the Michigan 6/47 right now.

Any idea what they will do if not all of the tickets are sold? Will they extend the sale or just draw anyway? I am in no way saying that will happen. Just curious what their solution will be.

It does seem like ticket sales picked up over the long weekend. I bought one ticket at the very beginning and one in the middle. I had a little luck with another game and thinking I might reinvest the winnings with another one towards the end if I am out that way.

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Sep 7, 2018, 1:54 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 6, 2018
I'll never understand why people go gaga over raffles. Compared to lotto games relative to the buy in the payouts on raffles stink.

This one is a $50 ticket for a $4,000,000 prize.

So each dollar wins $80,000. Any lottery that had an $80,000 jackpot for a $50 ticket wouldn't get too far at all.

And I'll say it again, people who say they hate quick picks and can't wait to buy a raffle ticket really make me wonder.

Thanks for putting in that perspective of how much you win per $1 spent. In Massachusetts, we have Mass Cash where the jackpot is $100,000 for a $1 play. And the odds for winning Mass Cash are about 1 in 325,000. And the odds for winning the $4,000,000 prize in the Michigan raffle are 1 in 300,000. So that really isn't a big difference. People in Massachusetts play the same line multiple times to win $100,000 multiple times. So I could do that instead which would save me a lot of gas money.
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Sep 8, 2018, 1:30 pm

Quote: Originally posted by LottoLucy on Sep 6, 2018
Any idea what they will do if not all of the tickets are sold? Will they extend the sale or just draw anyway? I am in no way saying that will happen. Just curious what their solution will be.

It does seem like ticket sales picked up over the long weekend. I bought one ticket at the very beginning and one in the middle. I had a little luck with another game and thinking I might reinvest the winnings with another one towards the end if I am out that way.

They are close to covering the prizes now. They need to sell about 180,000 to cover the prizes and about 200,000 to cover prizes and expenses which would mean about the last 100,000 are the profit.

They will extend the date to sell all 300,000 tickets and typically what happens is that they sell out really fast after any extension but buyers who wait till after the extension typically don't get the big winners as they are most usually in the ticket range before any extension.
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Sep 9, 2018, 8:51 am

Quote: Originally posted by Think on Sep 8, 2018
They are close to covering the prizes now. They need to sell about 180,000 to cover the prizes and about 200,000 to cover prizes and expenses which would mean about the last 100,000 are the profit.

They will extend the date to sell all 300,000 tickets and typically what happens is that they sell out really fast after any extension but buyers who wait till after the extension typically don't get the big winners as they are most usually in the ticket range before any extension.

Interesting that they'll extend the date to sell all 300,000 tickets. I've seen other states do that, but more often than not, they've simply held the drawing on the date originally published. G5

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Sep 9, 2018, 9:03 am

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 6, 2018
I'll never understand why people go gaga over raffles. Compared to lotto games relative to the buy in the payouts on raffles stink.

This one is a $50 ticket for a $4,000,000 prize.

So each dollar wins $80,000. Any lottery that had an $80,000 jackpot for a $50 ticket wouldn't get too far at all.

And I'll say it again, people who say they hate quick picks and can't wait to buy a raffle ticket really make me wonder.

I think it boils down to this; Not very many players think about or even care about buy in vs. payout.

As for me personally, it's the low odds that get me pumped about raffles. IMHO, all lottery games are a sucker bet anyway, so if I'm going to waste my money on a sucker bet I might as well do it on one with win-able odds. G5

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Sep 9, 2018, 9:34 am

I'm not in this raffle because I live in New York State. I just took a look at the Michigan Lottery website, which I should have done before I first posted in this thread.

This raffle isn't bad, but I've seen better raffles offered in Florida and Pennsylvania. I'm not impressed by the $50 price of a ticket, but apparently players in Michigan aren't bothered by it as there about 121,000 ticket remaining. With ten days to go until the drawing, it'll be interesting to see if the draw date gets pushed out. They have to sell an average of 12,000 tickets per day between now and Sept 19th, and that's one helluva lot of tickets per day. 12,000 tickets sold per day can happen easily when tickets are $20 each, but I'm not so sure that it can happen when they are $50 per ticket. My guess is that the date will be extended.

The $3,000,000 payout is annuitized over 30 years.... I'd prefer a lump sum which is what the other states do.

If I were in Michigan, I'd probably buy one ticket, but I usually bought ten to fifteen in the PA and Connecticut raffles. I dunno... to each his own. Good luck to LP members playing this one. G5

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