All times shown are Eastern Time (GMT-5:00) | Home -> Forums -> Lottery Discussion -> Computer or Natural(Ball based machines)? The Quantum Master West Concord, MN United States Member #21 December 7, 2001 2441 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 22, 2004, 7:17 am - IP Logged | |
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Boston, ma United States Member #4773 May 16, 2004 130 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 22, 2004, 1:51 pm - IP Logged | |
pegleg, even when the Numbers are picked by balls, it is still manipulated..that is a fact. If it wasn't, there would be no Lottery! | | |
Chicagoland United States Member #522 July 27, 2002 4812 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 22, 2004, 1:57 pm - IP Logged | |
I voted no also. At least in the old "numbers game" it was based on the stock market's closing quote and that couldn't be be manipulated. Then the state got involved and now they want to not only generate our quick picks, but they want to select the numbers with that same system. Begs of dishonesty to me. This lowers the integrity of the game to instant tickets and when it comes to that, I'll stop playing. As we are seeing more and more today, our computers are very easily manipulated by third parties (Spyware for example) and I'll take an analog selection system any day over a computerized one. PS to the comment about the lottery being "manipulated", to the best of my knowledge only one case of rigging exists and that happened in the PA lottery years ago and they all got busted. Harder to manipulate ping pong balls and get away with it then to manipulate computer code. - Rub me for good luck!
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San Angelo, Texas United States Member #1110 January 31, 2003 803 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 22, 2004, 2:28 pm - IP Logged | |
I'm opposed to use of computers to pick winning numbers. Software can be manipulated, and probably would be in places where political demand for more profits is strong. One could expect those in control of the computer to vehemently deny that they are 'managing' winning numbers. Problem for the players is proving otherwise, which might not be possible without access to the software program. I'll take the bouncing balls. | | |
United States Member #60 October 28, 2001 455 Posts Offline
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Greece Member #2867 November 18, 2003 419 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 22, 2004, 3:24 pm - IP Logged | |
I voted for no too. In both cases they can manipulate the result. Much easier on computer machines but the balls bouncing around is more entertaining and give you a feel that they cannot really control the outcome. If you have something to do, at least do it well... | | |
United States Member #1584 May 22, 2003 171 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 22, 2004, 3:36 pm - IP Logged | |
The state lotteries on Pick 3 already hold a 50 percent house edge. This switching to computer generated numbers is sick. What are they reallly hiding!!!!!! They are bound and determined to totally control the game. Personally if they all go that way I hope nobody plays and they all pack up and go home. People like to see the balls turn, it adds to the suspense of winning and it seems honest. State lotteries who are going to computer numbers I hope this comes back to bite you in the hind end. Hope you go from a 6 figure income to being unemployed, that will teach you to be greedy. | | |
Tx United States Member #4650 May 4, 2004 5183 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 22, 2004, 3:45 pm - IP Logged | |
My pick3 studies tell me, that they might not need the computers to manipulate the results, that they might have been doing this all along, it will just make it easier and better for them to do it with the computers, less trouble, you know. But again, they will do what ever they want, any time they want, no matter what. Who is going to stop them? MY self imposed job is to crack their games and I am doing my best and so far my best is very good. | | |
Northeastern, Ohio United States Member #20 December 20, 2000 52769 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 22, 2004, 6:18 pm - IP Logged | |
I voted no - the day Ohio starts using a computer to draw numbers is the day I stop playing in Ohio!!
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Yinzer Country, PA United States Member #4139 March 18, 2004 2729 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 22, 2004, 7:10 pm - IP Logged | |
computers aren't completely perfetc when it comes to randomly drawing numbers. I've redone my website. Go to www.dr-ew.com. I kept a lot of the old stuff, and I've added some new stuff. Look for more new stuff in the coming weeks. | | |
Pennsylvania United States Member #1366 April 6, 2003 2444 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 22, 2004, 7:55 pm - IP Logged | |
In short, No! One of these days I plan on setting up a program just to see if I can duplicate the PA daily pick 3/4 guess at the time they pick it (1:35 P.M. EST) using a Visual Basic random seed extractor I had previously been developing... If I can get positive results over a full week of draws (similar seed resulting in the right number) then I will go ahead and play a computer picked game, but barring that, never... Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself. | | |
Wisconsin United States Member #1642 June 3, 2003 668 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 22, 2004, 7:56 pm - IP Logged | |
When I choose my own numbers and the drawing is done with a mechanical machine using numbered lotto balls...I feel that it's just me against the whims of Lady Luck and I'm totally satisfied with the numbers drawn...win or lose! I feel that the result is random and fair. But, when I choose my numbers to play and the actual drawing is done with a computer program...I feel like I'm playing against a totally different set of rules no matter what the lottery may claim. I don't like that game and can't help but question the result. Keep the mechanical drawings and numbered lottery balls. Why change a good thing? Why tamper with something that is tried and true? ...and universally accepted by virtually everyone who plays. Attempting to maximize profits and convenience for the lottery by using computers for the official draw just doesn't seem worth the risk. They are tampering with the very essence of the game...the actual drawing itself. ... the lottery never fails to surprise! | | |
Dump Water Florida United States Member #381 June 5, 2002 2659 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 22, 2004, 8:34 pm - IP Logged | |
I voted no, I would stop trying to predict the numbers and just buy an occasional Quick Pick ticket if I was feeling lucky that day. Bobp
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Florida United States Member #5110 June 10, 2004 29 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 22, 2004, 8:50 pm - IP Logged | |
Never! They can kiss their revenue GOOD BYE!! caronel | | |
Baton Rouge, LA United States Member #4685 May 7, 2004 460 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 23, 2004, 2:32 pm - IP Logged | |
Unfortuanately, Louisiana has been using a computer for its lottery games for some time now. The Pick 3 and Pick 4 games are computer picked. Don't know about Cash Quest, Lotto, etc., but it wouldn't surprise me if they were. | | |
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