NY lawyer in lottery mystery travels to Iowa this week

Comment #21

jarasan — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:34:02 GMT

Yeah they are. They are bearer instruments. What I think happens is this: as the prize gets larger, the lotterys' agency own rules become less relevant to the lottery and it becomes more of a STATIST tax revenue collection agency organization. Think about it.....................what if there was no lottery???????????????? Where would those billions of dollars come from????????????????? It has been called the low income people tax authority. They have no problem paying the little ones under $600... [ More ]

Comment #20

KY Floyd — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:20:28 GMT

Even if it didn't say anything on the back lottery tickets would be bearer instruments until they were somehow registered to the owner, which can be done by signing the back. Despite the rampant misunderstanding of what it means, a bearer instrument is simply a financial instrument that the owner doesn't have to register. That's in contrast to registered instruments, where the owner is registered as the owner. cash is also a bearer instrument, but most people understand that their cash doesn't b... [ More ]

Comment #19

ttech10 — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:44:30 GMT

Sorry, but it says they are bearer instruments on the tickets themselves and the state lottery sites. There have even been cases already where the state flat out said someone gets the money because they turned in the ticket.

https://www.lotterypost.com/news/123795

That article has a man pulling a lottery ticket out of the trash and having full rights to the money, even after the person who bought the ticket challenged ownership.

http://blog.chron.com/newswatch/2011/05/man-sues-texa... [ More ]

Comment #18

HaveABall — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:44:49 GMT

Yes, Coin Toss, that would be nifty ... maybe the jackpot winner's lawyer is psyched ... will be able to charge their client a lot more justifiably now, anyhow

Comment #17

mcginnin56 — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:32:44 GMT

Medium well........ or burned

Comment #16

sully16 — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:24:56 GMT

I have a feeling this guy is going to get grilled

Comment #15

Coin Toss — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:15:34 GMT

Maybe the lawyer from NY was monitoring LP and picked up on the Jackpot Winners Protection Program idea

Comment #14

HaveABall — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:08:56 GMT

LOL, Cletu$2, ... ho, ho, ho

Comment #13

mcginnin56 — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:43:59 GMT

Gee that's funny. I went right to my NH lottery Commission website and under FAQ'S for the question what happens if I lose my ticket? it specifically say's that all tickets are bearer instruments and warns players to sign immediately to protect themselves.

After that I looked at the fine print of all my losing Poweball, MegaMillions, Hot Lotto, Megabucks Plus, and Weekly Grand tickets and they all say

THIS TICKET SHALL BE A BEARER INSTRUMENT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS A SIGNATURE IS PLACED IN THE... [ More ]

Comment #12

Mario38 — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:55:19 GMT

Several times on this site I have read claims that lottery tickets are bearer instruments. Guess what? They are not!

I have never read on any lottery corporation website or advertising claiming that lottery tickets are bearer instruments.

The theft of lottery tickets is relatively easy and it has occured several times. When a large prize is claimed, one of the first objectives of the lottery corporation is to determine if the ticket has been stolen.

Comment #11

time*treat — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:47:53 GMT

My state prints the age requirement on the playslip.

That's for winning tickets, though. No state is going to find out you bought a losing ticket while under age and give your dollar back.

Comment #10

Cletu$2 — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:18:23 GMT

I don't know if any other states have the you must be 21 or older rule or not.Iowa still treats all 18,19 20 year olds as half-adults .They can't buy lottery tickets or legally drink but they can vote and go marching off to war.Insanity is my opinion of the law.

Comment #9

rdgrnr — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:58:46 GMT

I'm confident that Iowa's own Inspector Clousseau will solve this caper

Comment #8

OldSchoolPa — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:49:48 GMT

That is a possibility I was not aware of until I went to New York's lottery website and read where you just need to be at least 18 years of age in order to play. But I don't buy that as the reason no one from the winner's family will come forward. If the person has a father, trusted uncle or cousin, they could have come forward along with that particular person and had that person be the front man as having purchased the winning ticket. Yet the trust still could have been drawn up to the satisfa... [ More ]

Comment #7

C0w Pi3 — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:34:27 GMT

You have to be 21 to play the lottery in Iowa? that's some BULL. btw wouldn't the place that sold the ticket be more or less at fault there? and yeah, I think you might be right.

Comment #6

kalikgirl — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 17:44:51 GMT

That's interesting, how else would the individuals get the lottery ticket? I am following this story.

Comment #5

Cletu$2 — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 17:39:46 GMT

Dream on,HaveABall.When was the last time you heard of a lawyer doing ANYTHING for free

Comment #4

HaveABall — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:10:45 GMT

Well, hopefully, this lawyer will give us LotteryPost members a few ideas, pro bono, regarding how to set-up-oneself AND claim hefty lottery jackpot winnings successfully.

Comment #3

Cletu$2 — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:06:15 GMT

I THINK it was a young person that could legally buy a lottery ticket in his home state and then discovered that you have to be 21 in Iowa to play the lottery.The lawyer set up a trust for him until he reaches the age of 21 and then he can have full access to the money.It's yet to be seen whether Iowa will allow the underage winner to keep any of the money because he broke the law when he bought the ticket.Just my opinion.

Comment #2

OldSchoolPa — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:52:14 GMT

I imagine the winners are one of the following:

1. Muslim - don't want people to know played the lottery and won; nor want scrutiny of where some of those millions will go (can you say Hesbolah? Al Qaida?).

2. Released Convict, likely a sex offender - again don't want any media scrutiny.

3. Indian former convenience store owner found guilty of lottery fraud - need I say more, Mr. Patel?!

4. Former clerk at store where ticket was purchased - don't want scrutiny as to how possess ticke... [ More ]

Comment #1

jarasan — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:12:57 GMT

Sue!Sue!Sue! Suey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought tickets were bearer instruments. This is BS. They know where the ticket was bought and the date and time, if they don't....... Iowa lottery has nary a chance to prove anything in court.

NY lawyer in lottery mystery travels to Iowa this week

Lottery Post — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:09:35 GMT

A New York attorney who signed a winning Lottery ticket turned in minutes before the deadline says he'll be in Iowa this week to explain the mysterious circumstances behind the jackpot.

Crawford Shaw said he expected to arrive in Iowa on Monday night and spend a few days meeting with his lawyers and Iowa Lottery officials. He says he hopes to get everything straightened out.

Shaw is representing a trust that turned in the winning Hot Lotto ticket on Dec. 29 less than two hours before the... [ More ]