Lawyer gives up $14 million Iowa lottery ticket claim

Comment #60

psykomo — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 01:27:20 GMT

NS:

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

this TICKET

Comment #59

NightStalker — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:57:25 GMT

WTG Iowa Lottery! Would love to know the real story behind this ticket.

Comment #58

psykomo — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 03:21:01 GMT

THANK GOD 4 LAWYER's ?????????????

they R......... ????????????

(1)LOYAl

(2) couertise

(3) KIND

(4) TRUSTworthery????????????????????!

THANK GOD 4 honest LAWWYER'$$

THEY CAN DO the right thing $$$$$

when they WANT UR MONEY

Comment #57

Cletu$2 — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:52:26 GMT

I think it's American Idol.He'll be singing the blues

Comment #56

rdgrnr — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 00:35:35 GMT

I heard the lawyer, Crawford Shaw, is going to be on Dancing With The Stars next season.

Or maybe it was American Idol, I don't remember.

I think I heard that somewhere.

Or maybe not.

Comment #55

ChazzMatt — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 22:42:28 GMT

Why the Iowa Lottery officials had such a hard on to know who the ticket purchaser is/was is beyond me.

Because it's the law that they know who the winner is. If insiders can print duplicate winning tickets -- it's been done before -- and then hide behind trusts, the lottery turns into a scam with us all being the suckers. THAT's why. A trust can claim it but the lottery officials have to know that the person/people behind the trust are ELIGBLE to claim.

Comment #54

Iesha Kelly — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:44:08 GMT

Beautifully put.

(and to the folks here talking about how the money should be put back into the pot... so somebody else (preferably the poster) wins it... no. that money *was* won. it needs to go to the real winner. if that person is eligible, and not an illegal. not this rich guy fraudster with morgan stanley connections and a central american tax haven.

Comment #53

Iesha Kelly — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:38:54 GMT

*golfclap.gif* Thank you so much. How many people here spoke ill of the Iowa Lotto and called the investigator a showboat, a busybody and worse?

From the Huffington Post version of this story:

... Shaw signed it on behalf of Hexham Investments Trust (misspelling Hexham as Hexam), which listed its address as a post office box in Bedford, N.Y., a wealthy enclave where Shaw lives on the property of his daughter and son-in-law Gregory Fleming, the president of Morgan Stanley Investm... [ More ]

Comment #52

mcginnin56 — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:58:44 GMT

What do you call 1000 lawyers chained together at the bottom of the coldest deepest ocean?

A good beginning.

Comment #51

Cletu$2 — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 02:58:53 GMT

I said it,but I have a good reason.I DON'T TRUST THE IOWA LOTTERY,and if you ask them,they'll tell you so.

Comment #50

haymaker — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 01:44:41 GMT

guilty as charged,

in my defense i'd like to say....

ohh... wait that sounds like a lawyer.

uhh...nevermind.

Comment #49

Artist77 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:25:15 GMT

I think the ticket owner was murdered....seriously. I aways thought if I won the lottery, I would not be overly loud and visible about it but I did want to gloat at work (to the not so nice ones) a bit before I quit. Now, I will sign all tickets and if I win, I will not tell anyone.

Comment #48

peppy007 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:48:25 GMT

lol. I ll hit u up when I get to Atlantis which is where I'm gonna gamble my winnings. Also if I go on the radio saying I found a winning ticket everyone and their mother will come out saying it's theirs.

Comment #47

sully16 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:45:11 GMT

This is one strange story.

Comment #46

rad242 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:33:39 GMT

Step 1: Buy your own tickets. Do not wear sunglasses, a cap or hoody during the purchase and ensure you are in clear view of the camera.

Step 2: Sign your own tickets

Step 3: Win

Step 4: Cash it in yourself

Step 5: Change your name after you collect your funds. You're rich enough to buy and sell identities - lol.

Comment #45

rdgrnr — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:11:18 GMT

I'm sure it will all be revealed when the lawyer's book comes out, lol.

Comment #44

Urbangirlie — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:43:22 GMT

Wow, I had a feeling this is how it would turn out! Still wonder who the 'rightful' winner was, if there ever was one

Comment #43

Stack47 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:56:29 GMT

What's even more interesting is a report this evening about how the trust had been established AFTER the lottery drawing had taken place, meaning this investment trust was more than likely established for the sole purpose of shielding the lottery proceeds, meaning it wasn't established earlier by someone rich as a general investment trust the lottery win just happened to be something they'd add to an already large pot of cash.

We've had many discussions about creating a trust so the winner c... [ More ]

Comment #42

lucky6025 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:19:25 GMT

NOPE sounds to me like you MURDERED the poor guy to get his ticket now his family will take you to court and you will go to jail plus the lawyers will get rich from this case LOL

Comment #41

peppy007 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:13:41 GMT

ok suppose I do have the death certificate. U think that ll be enough for Iowa officials

Comment #40

lucky6025 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:09:56 GMT

peppy 007 you have 2 options if you find the ticket on the ground 1. is I lost it and will come and get it if you call me and give you a reward. 2. if you are without friends then go to local newspaper or television station and tell them you found it and looking for the rightful owner to call you to pick it up. I myself think option 1 is the way to go

Comment #39

rad242 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:56:21 GMT

The Death Certificate

Comment #38

peppy007 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:53:28 GMT

So let me see if i got this right. You are supposed to tell the lottery whose hands the ticket passed thru. So suppose u leave a dollar for ur roommate to pick a ticket up for u cause ure sick at home. He then goes to work and is too busy to buy ticket he has his coworker buy it for him. He then returns home and gives u the ticket. Ur roommate dies from an accident or heart attack of something so u never had any idea who the coworker was that actually bought the ticket. Is Iowa gonna do a full i... [ More ]

Comment #37

Littleoldlady — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:23:53 GMT

I would be a rich prisoner.

Comment #36

jarasan — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:46:31 GMT

Sue, the next chapter.

Comment #35

Dawn32 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:06:26 GMT

My thought was that the guy or gal who won may have had active warrants for some serious crimes and knew he would get caught by coming forward.

Comment #34

dallascowboyfan — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:57:58 GMT

this is better than a movie........

Comment #33

Cletu$2 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:18:33 GMT

I read a story this morning in the Des Moines Register that says that Shaw (the lawyer) never met the people involved in the trust.They are from the small country of Belize,according to Shaw.The story just keeps getting stranger.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20120127/NEWS/301270040/-14-3-million-Hot-Lotto-prize-claim-withdrawn?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|News

Comment #32

lucky6025 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:16:06 GMT

Ok let me clairify my answer.Lottery said it was investigated and I would assume footage was watched from store cam,maybe not but if not should be a rulling that all states and lottery should be filmed then watched by lottery and if ticket is unclaimed 1 month prior to experation then lottery post footage on tv news showing person buying ticket,doesn't make any difference he/she kept ticket or gave ticket as a gift he/she would know whom the ticket was given too.Plus article says money from this... [ More ]

Comment #31

joyceepoo — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:11:04 GMT

You are exactly right. I know someone personally who did just that and because of him, 5 men who were wrongfully convicted have come home to their families.

Personally, I believe this lawyer may have stolen the ticket from a person who is either dead or ignorant of the fact that they won the lottery.

Comment #30

ChazzMatt — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:00:25 GMT

I say either look for rightful owner by footage on store video and if that is not possible then pot should go back into that game at experation date. Funny how Lottery can investigate a person after comming in to claim yet can not investigate before it expires.

You are a little confused. Or your point is confused.

investigage before it expires ? They investigate ANY TIME A WINNING TICKET IS PRESENTED. They don't wait until after it expires.

In this case the person that... [ More ]

Comment #29

mcginnin56 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:54:28 GMT

And perhaps force him to spit shine Iowa's lottery TOP COP security super star Bogle's shoe's daily for a year or two.

Comment #28

ChazzMatt — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:48:36 GMT

They aren't keeping it.

The unclaimed money will go toward future prizes, Rich said.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20120127/US.Mystery.Millionaire/?cid=hero_media

Comment #27

peppy007 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:45:20 GMT

Yes i agree. They should find a way of making 14 Iowans lucky by winning one million dollars each.

Comment #26

lucky6025 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:06:55 GMT

Ok this is what gets me.I have read all this mess from the start.Lottery officals said saw store footage of person buying ticket,which is very possible.Forget the state where this happened before but months before the ticket was to expire the unkown state posted picture on local tv news showing picture of person buying ticket and name of the store and the rightful winners came forward said he had placed ticket down on truck dashboard and forgot about it after several friends saws news broadcast

Comment #25

Tx_Mega_Player — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:29:52 GMT

The lottery has video showing who bought the ticket and probably the car they were driving, so the investigator has probably already interviewed this person . they know exactly what has happened. They are just calling Mr shaw's bluff. Lottery officials know rules were broken, so they have always known shaws claim would be denied. They are just trying to get him to confess to his scam.

Comment #24

Seattlejohn — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:56:00 GMT

I keep coming back to Shaw's statement that he was giving up his pursuit of the ticket because he didn't want to argue with the lottery . HE didn't want to argue, HIS pursuit. He didn't say he was giving up the beneficiaries pursuit of the lottery proceeds, or that the beneficiaries had instructed him to withdraw. It just smells to high heaven. And, it immediately becomes suspect, as the 2 most publicized times to claim a lottery prize are right after the drawing and right before the ticket is s... [ More ]

Comment #23

Luckylottery — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:11:54 GMT

The judgmentalism on here is amazing...It's one thing to speculate but not state the ticket was stolen period. Whosever ticket it was they have their reasons for letting it go or maybe it was stolen but nothing is affirmative... I'am not taking any sides but rather appreciating our differences with that comes different approaches...Anyway good luck to all players

Comment #22

Seattlejohn — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:08:12 GMT

Let's think this one through. Shaw didn't say he wasn't going to tell the lottery commission who the trust beneficiaries are because they'd instructed him not to; he said he wasn't because he wasn't going to argue with the lottery commission . HE wasn't; not the beneficiaries. If he's truly representing someone, then how do you think they'd feel about his giving up the $14 million they'd won? What's even more interesting is a report this evening about how the trust had been established AFTER the... [ More ]

Comment #21

RJOh — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:01:21 GMT

Hot Lotto is a multi-state game so every state that contributed to that jackpot should get their money back, not just Iowa.

Comment #20

C0w Pi3 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:48:19 GMT

I don't think the ticket was stolen, I do think it probably has something to do with the Bankruptcy so whatever.

Comment #19

RedStang — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:23:42 GMT

Give it to a good charity.

Comment #18

Lukep — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 05:25:38 GMT

the ticket was stolen. period

Comment #17

larry3100 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 04:35:42 GMT

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to say I'm not going to reveal the name of the person who won that $14.2 million. ,and just walk away. That's easy for Crawford Shaw to say.Where is the winner of this big jackpot?.I would love to know.Perhaps the winner met some bad fate.If I was the winner of $14.2 million lottery jackpot,I would reveal myself.Wow.This is some strange case.

Comment #16

time*treat — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 04:05:55 GMT

If a bit of stonewalling let's the state keep whatever the cash value is on $14MM, it's a safe bet they'll do this more often.

Comment #15

PERDUE — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:48:17 GMT

BASED ON THE LAWYER IN THIS CASE BEING ON THE UP AND UP.............

If I ever find myself in a situation like this and I wanted my identity protected, I'd most certainly want a lawyer like this to represent me.

Since I do not know the inside information on what is going on, it is not my place to speculate. Why the Iowa Lottery officials had such a hard on to know who the ticket purchaser is/was is beyond me.

I expect to see a lot more of these cases popping up in the near future. Meani... [ More ]

Comment #14

rdgrnr — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:41:48 GMT

They might as well pay it if they're not going to give the people who built that pot another chance to win it.

Why should Iowa get to keep it

Comment #13

Arrowhead — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:36:09 GMT

Just pay it! , how many on here said of Iowa Lotto

Comment #12

rdgrnr — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:20:32 GMT

I agree, JAP. Somebody was probably trying to hide it from his creditors and now realizes he won't be able to, so he'd rather give it up than give them the satisfaction of taking it from him.

Comment #11

jarasan — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:06:11 GMT

I do love that Monty Python crew. Watched it on channel 20 10PM.....and of course the movies.

This turn of events is just that, a plot twister, another book, very confounding!

I like this scene so very much. Allo who ease it

Comment #10

HaveABall — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:05:35 GMT

Well, LP members, this one hurts deeply (when we picture it being taken from our self)!

I think that the Iowa Lottery should put the $14.3M or whatever the monies they get to keep from this jackpot win in their own state for a special raffle with several BIG multi-million $ first, second, and third place jackpots. Otherwise, it just looks bad on the multi-state run Hot Lotto and Iowa Lottery Headquarters.

What do you folks think and feel about this deflating/bummer end result of no jackpot... [ More ]

Comment #9

haymaker — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 02:32:07 GMT

i would't mind seein some lawyers go to jail.

but some criminals go to jail and come out lawyers.

Comment #8

TheGameGrl — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 02:26:20 GMT

Jarasen,

LOL!!! Only a Monty Python fan could recite that and make it work!! good line

Comment #7

Cletu$2 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 02:22:58 GMT

If I ran the Iowa Lottery this would not be the end of the story.I'd prosecute Shaw for attempted theft by deception or some such law.I'd put him behind bars at Fort Madison (Iowas maximum security prison).I'd make him wish that he'd never heard of Iowa.

Comment #6

winsumloosesum — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:59:39 GMT

Lawyers.

You think the guy would be smart.

He must know somebody in Iowa that he could give the ticket to and then share the jackpot.

All that time holding on to a $14 million dollar lottery ticket.

Don't get it at all

Comment #5

JAP69 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:40:42 GMT

My guess is telling who the owner is may have something to do with the bankruptcy. If the owner of the ticket is involved in the bankruptcy it would need to be listed as an asset and he would no doubt lose it all anyhow in bankruptcy proceedings.

Comment #4

TheRightPrice — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:18:49 GMT

I guess he waited until the very last minute in hopes the Iowa Lottery would pay the ticket without question. Very Very Shady.

Comment #3

Guru101 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:15:33 GMT

That ticket was stolen and the thief's plan to claim the jackpot has been destroyed. The sad part is that the real winner won't be able to enjoy the benefits of winning the jackpot. Everyone should sign and protect their tickets. I'm signing every ticket I purchase from now. Every single one.

Comment #2

jarasan — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:11:40 GMT

And now, for something completely different.

Comment #1

TheRightPrice — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:11:17 GMT

OMG!!!!! Nobody in their right mind would walk away from millions of dollars. Something very shady is going on. Congrats to the Iowa Lottery

Lawyer gives up $14 million Iowa lottery ticket claim

Lottery Post — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:02:40 GMT

Strangest winner story ever? Lawyer sacrifices $14 million jackpot to prevent lottery from learning the winner's identity

The New York lawyer who tried to redeem a multi-million dollar lottery ticket in Iowa last month only to have his claim called into question by officials demanding to know who he represented is giving up the quest for the jackpot.

Crawford Shaw, 76, said on Thursday he was withdrawing his claim to a Hot Lotto ticket worth up to $14.3 million because I'm not going to arg... [ More ]