Florida Lottery's repeat winners don't always come out ahead

Comment #42

martingorgeous — Fri, 18 May 2012 12:33:14 GMT

Some may say The more often you play, the luckier you become.

But I still believe the odds of winning the lottery make it a game of DESTINY. FATE.

I reckon if we are to win the lottery, it was decided long before we were even born.

Comment #41

faber98 — Fri, 18 May 2012 04:00:26 GMT

not ragging on you joe, just trying to help. impressed with your unbridled enthusiasm for the daily numbers game. although we have the highest payouts in the country here we're still bucking tremendous odds to hit those tough 3 digit paydays. i haven't nailed one in months, although almost weekly getting 2 out of 3. maybe i should try your wheel system. as far as hawaii goes i would have to sail through the panama canal as airport security and i do not see eye to eye. meanwhile i will stick with... [ More ]

Comment #40

JoeBigLotto — Fri, 18 May 2012 00:42:12 GMT

ok we all cool now .l admit i don't know all the tricks and rules about massachusett lottery but i did good for being there for only six hrs and winning $655 but next time i come there i dont make the same mistake twice i will play the two digits like you said for like $20 hopefully i win big. And now that i know which state you live in feel free to email me here and i could send you some lucky numbers for MA when i have it or feeling it . l think my expertise with number can help you win alot o... [ More ]

Comment #39

faber98 — Thu, 17 May 2012 23:20:40 GMT

goodness gracious joe. i am just relaying info on payouts. you have it wrong in massacusetts where i reside. they draw a 4 digit number twice daily now. you can either play all 4 or 1st 3 or last 3 or middle 2 (which would suit you i guess). everyone here at least knows you must buy the 3 digit play in .50 increments to avoid the taxes.(you didn't) the payoffs here average 700.00 for 3 opposed to your paltry 500.00 in some of the states in which you ply through. being that as it may, i understan... [ More ]

Comment #38

JoeBigLotto — Thu, 17 May 2012 19:02:15 GMT

Well you are focusing too much on numbers that have nothing to do with the fun and luck of the game. first of all you need to start thinking positively and that will help you win. two things happens when you play you either win or loss. so am not worried about being doom eventually because we live in a planet that is being doomed eventually and we live in a universe to the best of my knowlege will eventually run out of hydrogen and the stars will go dead so non of that bothers me .when i play th... [ More ]

Comment #37

faber98 — Thu, 17 May 2012 16:19:58 GMT

but joe, just by increasing your combinations does not change the odds of winning. it just means you bet 10 times as much as it would take to get you into a 100-1 situation. i really don't understand your manipulating of numbers and what fraud or law breaking situation that there is that you don't break. anyone can play any amount of numbers or combinations or amounts without breaking the law. i don't know what you mean by that. mathematically it doesn't matter if you spread out your 2 digit com... [ More ]

Comment #36

JoeBigLotto — Wed, 16 May 2012 18:35:53 GMT

well taking care of my company sometimes is the easiest part of my strategy .if i absolutely have to like one time i needed to enter michigan to collect $1000 in two winning cash3 tickets i just turned off my company GPS system for half hr and told them i lost satelite signal lol and after i got done getting my money about 25miles off course i turned back the GPS system back on so i was invisible or a real ghost or ninja for half hr completely invisible.lol

Comment #35

maximumfun — Wed, 16 May 2012 17:57:08 GMT

Sounds like you have turned the lottery into a nice part-time job for yourself. good for you! enjoy! i can't wait to hear more of your exploits.

Comment #34

JoeBigLotto — Wed, 16 May 2012 17:50:44 GMT

as to how much i invest per game to get result is not relivant. this is why playing to me is a progressive game just like driving a truck you start at low gear and move to higher gear. when i was at clarksville tennessee l had only $50 in my wallect and by 6pm l spent $5 on 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 and the result at 7.30 pm in clarksville tn was 171 so i won $250 now that i have $250 0f play money i drove 15miles to kenturky and bet $50 on cash3 and i hit a combo or super straight... [ More ]

Comment #33

JoeBigLotto — Wed, 16 May 2012 17:28:34 GMT

Well here you talk about your odds of winning being 1 in 1000 but you see thats is not the odds i play with we both play on different odd calculation system. you see in my world have develop my odds to be about 1 in 100 let me explain.ok lets say you want to play the number 123 and your odds of winning is 1 in 1000.this is how l play it. l replace the 1 with the letter x to create x23 so i bet 023 123 223 323 423 523 623 723 823 923 cost my $5 at fifty cents straight but my odds of winning with

Comment #32

JoeBigLotto — Wed, 16 May 2012 17:04:02 GMT

well you have two parts to your question even though it sounds tough for you but it is so easy for me to answer most of them.the first part is this ,when you go to the state of florida and pick up a cash3 slip and play 665 straight and box and mark it $1 ,the cashier will bill you $1 and that means fifty cents goes to straight and fifty cents goes to box.when i got to minnesota i picked up a slip and marked it $1 straight and box.this cashier however billed me $2 meaning in minesota $1 goes to s... [ More ]

Comment #31

faber98 — Wed, 16 May 2012 16:09:17 GMT

inasmuch as you are a long distance truck driver (allegedlly) would alleviate and explain the travel and associated costs. however, i hope your company appreciates the time you spend buying and cashing all these winning tickets. i just think this is a fish story as the odds of hitting a paltry pik 3 are 1000-1 and no one could hit that many this often. disclose how much you invest in each draw to get these constant hits.

Comment #30

Nino224 — Wed, 16 May 2012 05:02:29 GMT

Wasn't this reporter curious at all about how somebody hits Play4 straight 100 times in one year?? I think that's the story, and not how much people are playing. We all know how much Floridians play. This year at least 2 records have been broken for the amount of scratch-offs sold.

Tell me something I don't know, like how to win 100 times

Comment #29

Lucky Loser — Wed, 16 May 2012 04:09:21 GMT

Gamer; a person who plays a game or games, typically a participant in a roll playing game.

Noun

Right you are on all accounts here! This morning and evening I watched a friend of mine make $315 first, and then $405...$720 on two sessions which were around 20-25 min. each!!!! Not bad at all in my book!!! As a side note, this was also above and beyond what he started with. He did go under for a couple of rounds before things took off, though... which I believe is the key. A player has... [ More ]

Comment #28

rdgrnr — Wed, 16 May 2012 02:34:50 GMT

Roll on, (roll on) big mama, I like the way you sing

Roll on (roll on) big mama, the night time lets her breathe

Well, the feel of the wheel delivers me from a life where I don't wanna be

And the diesel smoke with every stroke sings a song with a heavy note

And ramblin is the life I chose, sittin here between the doors

The yellow line a keepin time, with the things that's a runnin through my mind, through my mind

Roll on (roll on) big mama, I like the way you roll

Roll on (r... [ More ]

Comment #27

JoeBigLotto — Wed, 16 May 2012 02:05:30 GMT

Well am alot more smarter than you think. l have a class A CDL and l drive a tractor trailer for an expedited company.And l do have a co driver and we both can drive from florida east coast to california west coast in less time than you think. We both can drive about 1500 miles in any 24hr period.So i get paid to travel and i do not pay for any gas not even one penny.Last two weeks i was in mineapolis MN for the first time and the first day the thursday 26th of april 2012 i played cash3 and lost... [ More ]

Comment #26

faber98 — Wed, 16 May 2012 01:04:48 GMT

lucky he is, and so are the gas stations, motels and food joints in all those states that he seems to be constantly traveling in to play these things while his profit margin is being chewed to threads. if it works continue, but a dry spell or a well timed or placed tornado could upset the applecart for this guy.

Comment #25

rdgrnr — Tue, 15 May 2012 17:37:14 GMT

You sound like a lucky guy Joe.

Feel free to post or send me some numbers for Tennessee.

Thanks.

Comment #24

time*treat — Tue, 15 May 2012 16:04:35 GMT

I think the odds on ANY casino game are more in the favor of gamers than the odds on any state online lottery games

Comment #23

JoeBigLotto — Tue, 15 May 2012 15:41:59 GMT

ok cool. if the story i told above sounds too good to be true well welcome to my life because i have better ones too. On february the 22nd 2012 .l was travelling from houston texas to chatanooga tennessee so i decided to stop on i-24 an interstate between georgia and tennessee to play cash4 box. few days earlier i remembered i was in texas and i played 4424 and 4422 trying to win $600 and $400 for fifty cents box because triplets and twins pay more money but the result was like 2246 so i lost .

Comment #22

Coin Toss — Tue, 15 May 2012 06:16:24 GMT

Lucky Loser,

From the other side of the pit, roulette is a pain to deal because it attracts so many systems (odd / even, black / red, etc...) and cheats, mostly past posters and past posters teamed with a blocker or blockers.

As far as odds go, of course they're a lot better on roulette. The house edge for almost all the bets is 5.26% and Pick 3 is much more than that.

When the casinos put those poles next to the wheels that track the last spins roulette revenue went up 23%.

Just as... [ More ]

Comment #21

Lucky Loser — Tue, 15 May 2012 03:05:23 GMT

Hi Joe. I really like the part about three girlfriends! However, three girlfriends is always more expensive than just one, LOL!! I do see where you're coming from though...the momentum on one game could very well be much better than the others. Well, let me tell you a little about what I do. Pretty much everything game-wise has been incorporated online in some way, okay. There are various softwares one can download which contain various games for one to practice on, or, play for real. Well, I ha... [ More ]

Comment #20

maximumfun — Tue, 15 May 2012 02:27:02 GMT

YIKES

Comment #19

LottoGuyBC — Tue, 15 May 2012 01:45:40 GMT

Florida Lottery's repeat winners don't always come out ahead

prolly should read: Lottery repeat winners don't always come out ahead

when you play way more than you win

Comment #18

PERDUE — Tue, 15 May 2012 01:44:55 GMT

Thank you. My reasoning is pick 3 and pick 4 are the only lotteries that have two drawings every day. At $5 per drawing you're looking at $60 to $70 per week and that's just on the low end of betting on these games. And if you're playing both games everyday you're looking at $120 to $140 a week multiply any of these numbers times 4 and you're possibly looking at a house note payment.

And yes, the game is fun as all get out but just as expensive. That's why most of my playing is on paper and i... [ More ]

Comment #17

JoeBigLotto — Tue, 15 May 2012 00:15:13 GMT

l can help you a lot because the only games i play are pick3 ,pick4 and roullette. And this is my true story if you want to believe it do and if you don't want to its ok. l was at home one day in florida and i said to myself why don't you use your maths skill to gamble since i was among the top ten in maths in my class so i said ok i will try. i began playing pick3 and pick4 .i bought 0175 on sunday night for two days and on sunday night i did not win .so on monday night i bought another 0175 on... [ More ]

Comment #16

Lucky Loser — Mon, 14 May 2012 23:14:18 GMT

'Toss, I remember you mentioning in the past that you worked at a casino(s) before. Talk to me a little bit about the odds of Pick 3 vs. Roulette...and any trends you've seen in your experiences while at the casino. The reason I ask is because, while I'm pretty strong with Pick 3, I prefer Roulette due to seemingly better odds...and I can generate more money faster and more consistently.

In the end it's all numbers, but I saw where the table game produced much better results for the money I w... [ More ]

Comment #15

Coin Toss — Mon, 14 May 2012 21:26:30 GMT

Boney526,

When time*treat said:

Mike Patel, owner of Tuzzo's Circle News in Hollywood, said some customers will drop $200 or more a day on tickets. But for others, it's just a hobby, he said.

Check your tickets real close, if you go there to cash 'em.

the refernece was ro quite a few news stories about clerks telling players that had handed them their tickets to be checked the ticket was a loser or only won a few dollars and then the clerk swining with (stealing) the ticket and cash... [ More ]

Comment #14

Stack47 — Mon, 14 May 2012 20:54:54 GMT

Of about a dozen multiple winners contacted by the Sun Sentinel, none wanted to be named. That's to be expected, said Pat Fowler, of the Florida Council on Compulsive Gambling.

Or the obvious answer; they told the Sun Sentinel to mind their own business. They already knew each winner was given a W-2G multiple times yet Pat Fowler of the FCCG ignorantly assumes they are all compulsive gamblers.

Comment #13

Lucky Loser — Mon, 14 May 2012 17:41:34 GMT

Perdue, I highly support your reasoning as well...and include this as a best response. $5 is a bit low but, can be done so long as a whole format is the starting point. $10-$15 will produce some very good results with a little patience on one format. Happens every single day.

L.L.

Comment #12

LottoBoner — Mon, 14 May 2012 17:35:57 GMT

yes and many of these gambling problem people clog up the terminals...which is very annoying as well....and with the liability cap...the lottery commission never loses...

Comment #11

LottoBoner — Mon, 14 May 2012 17:33:32 GMT

the best feasible from my charts to hit a str8 is twice a week...otherwise you are trying to hard...i try to keep my budget to 2.50 per draw...only box bets at 1/2 dollar until i get some winning momentum...

pick 3 preys on seniors, who dont use computers, dont know patterns and play superstiously...

interesting enough with the introduction of slots at racing venues...the lottery commission can have its cake and eat it too...

yes refining your skills to hit exact order at least ONCE per... [ More ]

Comment #10

Lucky Loser — Mon, 14 May 2012 17:13:22 GMT

In my opinion, this is the best response thus far...and I've mentioned the first word in the fourth sentence here many, many times regarding Pick 3. A player can simply put together one or two formats, which will contain all the numbers minus strategic filtering, and come out ahead with patience because the formats must absolutely be drawn at some point. Most players really don't start with enough numbers from the get go...and wonder why the numbers never hit.

This is a game of starting with... [ More ]

Comment #9

Littleoldlady — Mon, 14 May 2012 16:42:28 GMT

When I vacationed there last summer, I had a blast. I was playing S/B and won several times. I averaged about 20 bucks a draw (spending

Comment #8

rad242 — Mon, 14 May 2012 15:22:15 GMT

I agree!

We are the popular state for retirees. They play heavily which is why I often wondered why we don't win the Powerball more often particularly given the fact that we are one of the bigger contributors but the report from the state lottery and this article confirms the reasons behind that. The 3 and 4 ball games are far more appealing amonng that age group that has the time, energy and resources.

Comment #7

RedStang — Mon, 14 May 2012 15:11:17 GMT

For some of them, the lottery is the only entertainment alot of those retired players have. Most of them have no bills so why not play heavy on these games. Gets most of them out of the house.

Comment #6

JAP69 — Mon, 14 May 2012 14:37:17 GMT

True.

The reason as I see it is many pick 3 and pick 4 players are not disciplined in their wagering strategy on playing the game. They are playing too many numbers per draw and not getting any hits (very costly).

They need to learn to filter down their plays to just a few per draw and have hits in a time frame that returns a profit. Patience is a key factor in the game.

That is why I prefer to select a few keepers out of the list I post and use those for awhile. I am a cheap player for... [ More ]

Comment #5

Boney526 — Mon, 14 May 2012 14:12:00 GMT

And why is that

Comment #4

RJOh — Mon, 14 May 2012 14:11:41 GMT

Pick3 and Pick4 games are the biggest money makers in every state that have lotteries so it shouldn't be a surprise that many of the players of these games have gambling problems.

Comment #3

JAP69 — Mon, 14 May 2012 13:49:57 GMT

to hit exact order every drawing spending $5 or less per drawing,

Every drawing??

My math figures for exact order comes to 2 times out of a hundred to be ahead in pick 3.

Comment #2

time*treat — Mon, 14 May 2012 12:58:50 GMT

Mike Patel, owner of Tuzzo's Circle News in Hollywood, said some customers will drop $200 or more a day on tickets. But for others, it's just a hobby, he said.

Check your tickets real close, if you go there to cash 'em.

Comment #1

PERDUE — Mon, 14 May 2012 12:54:59 GMT

Pick 3 and Pick 4 are the state's form of the one-arm-bandit .

No matter how you slice and dice pick 3 and pick 4, unless you refine your skills to hit exact order every drawing spending $5 or less per drawing, you are only paying the state to play the lottery.

Pick 3 and pick 4 are the states most expensive online games to play.

Florida Lottery's repeat winners don't always come out ahead

Lottery Post — Mon, 14 May 2012 12:06:35 GMT

Thirteen players cashed at least 20 tickets paying more than $600 in 2011

Most people who play the lottery won't win more than a few bucks. But there are people in South Florida who win big money almost every week.

A Plantation woman has won at least $600 more than 240 times in the past 19 years, according to a Sun Sentinel analysis of individual Florida Lottery winnings dating to 1993. A Hollywood man won $5,000 at least 52 times last year. The winningest player for 2011, a resident of Pa... [ More ]