Florida Lottery's repeat winners don't always come out ahead

May 14, 2012, 8:06 am (42 comments)

Florida Lottery

Thirteen players cashed at least 20 tickets paying more than $600 in 2011

Most people who play the lottery won't win more than a few bucks. But there are people in South Florida who win big money almost every week.

A Plantation woman has won at least $600 more than 240 times in the past 19 years, according to a Sun Sentinel analysis of individual Florida Lottery winnings dating to 1993. A Hollywood man won $5,000 at least 52 times last year. The winningest player for 2011, a resident of Pasco County, cashed 100 Play 4 tickets for a total of $500,000.

These winners are bound by more than just luck. They all play games that offer better odds than Powerball or Lotto. And they play them regularly, almost methodically.

"Cash 3 and Play 4 players tend to be more consistent and regular in their play," lottery secretary Cynthia F. O'Connell said. "They play at least one drawing a day and sometimes both."

Consider the odds: Powerball players have a one-in-175 million chance of winning. The probability of selecting six of 53 numbers in Lotto is one in 23 million. The odds of buying a winning Play 4 ticket are considerably better — one in 10,000, though the maximum payout is $5,000.

The Sun Sentinel analysis examined winnings of $600 or more, including the scratch-off games. Winners who receive less than $600 are not required to fill out identifying information and may claim winnings directly from retailers.

Play 4, which is drawn twice daily, has more winners in the Florida Lottery's database of reportable wins than any other game. Another twice-daily game, Cash 3, pays $500.

Mike Patel, owner of Tuzzo's Circle News in Hollywood, said some customers will drop $200 or more a day on tickets. "But for others, it's just a hobby," he said.

A convenience-store owner in Orlando, who doesn't want to be identified, hit Play 4 30 times in 2011 after buying $30 worth of tickets a day — as he had been doing for years. His four numbers came up once in 2011. For one Plantation woman, who declined to be interviewed, Play 4 has yielded at least $1.2 million. Since 1996, she has cashed 248 Play 4 tickets at about six convenience stores, according to the Lottery's database.

"She's a nice lady, but sometimes, she comes in here to play all her numbers. It holds up the line," one employee of a Plantation store said. "Then, the non-lottery part of our business suffers."

A Miami laborer said he's in the red this year, even though he won $150,000 by hitting 30 Play 4s in 2011.

"No, I'm not ahead," he said. "You always play more than you win. But it's a choice you make. I like playing."

Of about a dozen multiple winners contacted by the Sun Sentinel, none wanted to be named. That's to be expected, said Pat Fowler, of the Florida Council on Compulsive Gambling.

"If you're winning multiple times on the daily games, I'd have to assume you must be playing frequently," she said. "And as they begin to develop various levels of problem gambling, they become much more secretive about it. They don't want people to know how much they're gambling, or that they're losing."

The state requires players who have won $600 or more to cash their tickets at a lottery district office, which in South Florida means either Miami or West Palm Beach. A recent Monday morning visit to the lottery office in Miami found about 75 players waiting to cash their tickets.

Miami resident Chris Bee, who arrived with a winning Monopoly scratch-off ticket, said he's lost money on the lottery this year.

"I play a lot, and I lose a lot," he said. "But when you hit that lucky one ... "

O'Connell, the lottery secretary, said focusing on players who have won $600 or more is somewhat arbitrary, because many people who don't win big amounts still enjoy the games.

"Winners might get $10, $100, $200, and they're excited and enthusiastic about that, and they'll come back and play some more," she said. "And there are millions of them that love our product."

That includes Safritz Massenat, 83, a daily player at a Shop 'N' Save Mini Mart in Fort Lauderdale. He said he spends $50 to $100 a day on a variety of games, and has seen plenty of people here win. Records show the Shop 'N' Save has had 98 winners of $600 more, totaling $311,824.

But no Powerball or Lotto winners, he noted.

"The big one," he said. "That's when you'll hear from me. And it might be tonight."

Sun-Sentinel

Comments

PERDUE

Pick 3 and Pick 4 are the state's form of the "one-arm-bandit".

No matter how you slice and dice pick 3 and pick 4, unless you refine your skills to hit exact order every drawing spending $5 or less per drawing, you are only paying the state to play the lottery.

Pick 3 and pick 4 are the states most expensive online games to play.

time*treat's avatartime*treat

Mike Patel, owner of Tuzzo's Circle News in Hollywood, said some customers will drop $200 or more a day on tickets. "But for others, it's just a hobby," he said.

Check your tickets real close, if you go there to cash 'em. Wink

JAP69's avatarJAP69

Quote: Originally posted by PERDUE on May 14, 2012

Pick 3 and Pick 4 are the state's form of the "one-arm-bandit".

No matter how you slice and dice pick 3 and pick 4, unless you refine your skills to hit exact order every drawing spending $5 or less per drawing, you are only paying the state to play the lottery.

Pick 3 and pick 4 are the states most expensive online games to play.

"to hit exact order every drawing spending $5 or less per drawing, "

Every drawing??

My math figures for exact order comes to 2 times out of a hundred to be ahead in pick 3.

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Pick3 and Pick4 games are the biggest money makers in every state that have lotteries so it shouldn't be a surprise that many of the players of these games have gambling problems.

Boney526's avatarBoney526

Quote: Originally posted by time*treat on May 14, 2012

Mike Patel, owner of Tuzzo's Circle News in Hollywood, said some customers will drop $200 or more a day on tickets. "But for others, it's just a hobby," he said.

Check your tickets real close, if you go there to cash 'em. Wink

And why is that?

JAP69's avatarJAP69

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on May 14, 2012

Pick3 and Pick4 games are the biggest money makers in every state that have lotteries so it shouldn't be a surprise that many of the players of these games have gambling problems.

True.

The reason as I see it is many pick 3 and pick 4 players are not disciplined in their wagering strategy on playing the game. They are playing too many numbers per draw and not getting any hits (very costly).

They need to learn to filter down their plays to just a few per draw and have hits in a time frame that returns a profit. Patience is a key factor in the game.

That is why I prefer to select a few keepers out of the list I post and use those for awhile. I am a cheap player for maximum benefit.

RedStang's avatarRedStang

For some of them, the lottery is the only entertainment alot of those retired players have. Most of them have no bills so why not play heavy on these games. Gets most of them out of the house.

rad242

I agree!

 

We are the popular state for retirees. They play heavily which is why I often wondered why we don't win the Powerball more often particularly given the fact that we are one of the bigger contributors but the report from the state lottery and this article confirms the reasons behind that. The 3 and 4 ball games are far more appealing amonng that age group that has the time, energy and resources.

Littleoldlady's avatarLittleoldlady

When I vacationed there last summer, I had a blast.  I was playing S/B and won several times.  I averaged about 20 bucks a draw (spending)

Lucky Loser

Quote: Originally posted by JAP69 on May 14, 2012

True.

The reason as I see it is many pick 3 and pick 4 players are not disciplined in their wagering strategy on playing the game. They are playing too many numbers per draw and not getting any hits (very costly).

They need to learn to filter down their plays to just a few per draw and have hits in a time frame that returns a profit. Patience is a key factor in the game.

That is why I prefer to select a few keepers out of the list I post and use those for awhile. I am a cheap player for maximum benefit.

In my opinion, this is the best response thus far...and I've mentioned the first word in the fourth sentence here many, many times regarding Pick 3. A player can simply put together one or two formats, which will contain all the numbers minus strategic filtering, and come out ahead with patience because the formats must absolutely be drawn at some point. Most players really don't start with enough numbers from the get go...and wonder why the numbers never hit.

This is a game of starting with all of the numbers in one format, and then removing specific pairs, sums, etc. to further narrow down costs. Players that do the one number deal for days on end are only wasting money. Sorry to be so forward but, it's the truth and I'm only trying to help. Quit waiting on 4-9-7, as an example, to hit at some point because "it hasn't fell in over a year." 

Now, if we look further into this number, 4-9-7 is a "format" of the Even-Odd-Odd combination. This means that a player needs to BEGIN WITH ALL THE NUMBERS IN THIS FORMAT, FIRST, in order to experience high odds of getting paid at some point. Why? Because if ANY combination of Even-Odd-Odd is drawn, you already have a 90% chance of matching that combination. The other 10% is based on whether or not the filtering works out. If it does, you automatically win on that format.

Been doin' this for a long time...and a player needs to begin with a WHOLE instead of PIECES...then narrow down. When I do play, this is how I roll...and it works well. Gotta be patient, though, as you've mentioned. The more complete formats a player can afford to play, the better the odds of winning. Pre-draws are, again, designed to put back in what the player has filtered out which is where the challenge lies. Very good post, JAP69.


L.L.

LottoBoner

Quote: Originally posted by PERDUE on May 14, 2012

Pick 3 and Pick 4 are the state's form of the "one-arm-bandit".

No matter how you slice and dice pick 3 and pick 4, unless you refine your skills to hit exact order every drawing spending $5 or less per drawing, you are only paying the state to play the lottery.

Pick 3 and pick 4 are the states most expensive online games to play.

the best feasible from my charts to hit a str8 is twice a week...otherwise you are trying to hard...i try to keep my budget to 2.50 per draw...only box bets at 1/2 dollar until i get some winning momentum...

pick 3 preys on seniors, who dont use computers, dont know patterns and play superstiously...

interesting enough with the introduction of slots at racing venues...the lottery commission can have its cake and eat it  too...

yes refining your skills to hit exact order at least ONCE per month is the key...because you can always bet more when you have a friendly patterns...which is why the pick 3 threads are beginning to annoy me

because there are so few people who have that skill...and i i hate looking through so many contradictory picks...Puke

LottoBoner

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on May 14, 2012

Pick3 and Pick4 games are the biggest money makers in every state that have lotteries so it shouldn't be a surprise that many of the players of these games have gambling problems.

yes and many of these gambling problem people clog up the terminals...which is very annoying as well....and with the liability cap...the lottery commission never loses...

Lucky Loser

Quote: Originally posted by PERDUE on May 14, 2012

Pick 3 and Pick 4 are the state's form of the "one-arm-bandit".

No matter how you slice and dice pick 3 and pick 4, unless you refine your skills to hit exact order every drawing spending $5 or less per drawing, you are only paying the state to play the lottery.

Pick 3 and pick 4 are the states most expensive online games to play.

Perdue, I highly support your reasoning as well...and include this as a best response. $5 is a bit low but, can be done so long as a whole format is the starting point. $10-$15 will produce some very good results with a little patience on one format. Happens every single day.


L.L.

Stack47

"Of about a dozen multiple winners contacted by the Sun Sentinel, none wanted to be named. That's to be expected, said Pat Fowler, of the Florida Council on Compulsive Gambling."

Or the obvious answer; they told the Sun Sentinel to mind their own business. They already knew each winner was given a W-2G multiple times yet Pat Fowler of the FCCG ignorantly assumes they are all compulsive gamblers.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by Boney526 on May 14, 2012

And why is that?

Boney526,

When time*treat said:

Mike Patel, owner of Tuzzo's Circle News in Hollywood, said some customers will drop $200 or more a day on tickets. "But for others, it's just a hobby," he said.

Check your tickets real close, if you go there to cash 'em. Wink

the refernece was ro quite a few news stories about clerks telling players that had handed them their tickets to be checked the ticket was a loser or only won a few dollars and then the clerk "swining" with (stealing) the ticket and cashing it later. An inordinate number of these clerks have been people named Patel.

Lucky Loser

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on May 14, 2012

Boney526,

When time*treat said:

Mike Patel, owner of Tuzzo's Circle News in Hollywood, said some customers will drop $200 or more a day on tickets. "But for others, it's just a hobby," he said.

Check your tickets real close, if you go there to cash 'em. Wink

the refernece was ro quite a few news stories about clerks telling players that had handed them their tickets to be checked the ticket was a loser or only won a few dollars and then the clerk "swining" with (stealing) the ticket and cashing it later. An inordinate number of these clerks have been people named Patel.

'Toss, I remember you mentioning in the past that you worked at a casino(s) before. Talk to me a little bit about the odds of Pick 3 vs. Roulette...and any trends you've seen in your experiences while at the casino. The reason I ask is because, while I'm pretty strong with Pick 3, I prefer Roulette due to seemingly better odds...and I can generate more money faster and more consistently.

In the end it's all numbers, but I saw where the table game produced much better results for the money I was willing to spend on each spin. I got hip to this from several other top dog 'Roulette Raiders'.


L.L.

JoeBigLotto's avatarJoeBigLotto

Quote: Originally posted by Lucky Loser on May 14, 2012

'Toss, I remember you mentioning in the past that you worked at a casino(s) before. Talk to me a little bit about the odds of Pick 3 vs. Roulette...and any trends you've seen in your experiences while at the casino. The reason I ask is because, while I'm pretty strong with Pick 3, I prefer Roulette due to seemingly better odds...and I can generate more money faster and more consistently.

In the end it's all numbers, but I saw where the table game produced much better results for the money I was willing to spend on each spin. I got hip to this from several other top dog 'Roulette Raiders'.


L.L.

l can help you a lot because the only games i play are pick3 ,pick4 and roullette. And this is my true story if you want to believe it do and if you don't want to its ok. l was at home one day in florida and i said to myself why don't you use your maths skill to gamble since i was among the top ten in maths in my class so i said ok i will try. i began playing pick3 and pick4 .i bought 0175 on sunday night for two days and on sunday night i did not win .so on monday night i bought another 0175 on cash4 fifty cents straight and i forgot i bought one on sunday night for two days. so on monday night i was watching tv draw and the winning number was 0175 .i was so happy i won $2500 with fifty cents straight. while i was going thru my junk or lossing tickets i found another 0175 from sunday so now i have two $2500 tickets for total of $5,000. so i was like what do i do now . so i went to orlando mall and bought lots of clothes and shoes spent about $800 the cashier said my card was not good looking at me like i stole it. i said listen i won the lottery and my card is full and good so why dont you look for another machin to scan it with that must be the only bad thing i see. she said ok what ever and found a new machin terminal and my card was good and i said you see i told you so.so when you win people will think you stole money .so now my next move was to fly to atlantic city for the first time with my new lucky white jacket to gamble like trump. so i was in the plane and the flight attendant said what do you want i said the best you have ,i was feeling like a high roller now eating in the sky and plane tilting just enough for me to see America bellow me that was sweet. so now i get to atlantic city and went to Bogata casino and walked arround and nothing got my interest except the skimpy women and cute hostess until i saw the roullette table. l fell in love with the roullette table and the dealer said its easy play red or black or numbers. so i played numbers and i won alot and lost alot and at the end of round one i lost $200. I was like wow how do i get my $200 back so i took out another $200 from ATM and the dealer said you back and i said yes i be back like terminator. so this time i built a new strategy i bet $1 on fifteen different numbers and i bet $12 each on any three numbers on the same role so i bet on 13,14,15 and my little bets arround it like security incase i miss my big bet. So the ball landed on 13 and i won big and at the end i walked away with profit of $1200 not bad for first time on a roullette table. so now i win on cash3 and take the money to casino roullete and i win on roullette and use the money to play cash3 and cash4. so my point is instead of compairing odds on this three games why dont you treat them like three girl friends that you have and love and not sure which one of them will make you happy tonight. Because life is so complex bet on the unexpected since you are asking of ways to win. for example if you want to bet $100 on red l will say bet against yourself and bet $50 on black and $25 on zero and the last $25 on zero zero. Try it tonight and tell me how it went. lol

PERDUE

Quote: Originally posted by Lucky Loser on May 14, 2012

Perdue, I highly support your reasoning as well...and include this as a best response. $5 is a bit low but, can be done so long as a whole format is the starting point. $10-$15 will produce some very good results with a little patience on one format. Happens every single day.


L.L.

Thank you.  My reasoning is pick 3 and pick 4 are the only lotteries that have two drawings every day. At $5 per drawing you're looking at $60 to $70 per week and that's just on the low end of betting on these games. And if you're playing both games everyday you're looking at $120 to $140 a week multiply any of these numbers times 4 and you're possibly looking at a house note payment.

And yes, the game is fun as all get out but just as expensive. That's why most of my playing is on paper and it's only when I see an improvement in my predictions will I begin to pay to play.

LottoGuyBC's avatarLottoGuyBC

Florida Lottery's repeat winners don't always come out ahead

prolly should read: Lottery repeat winners don't always come out ahead Thud

when you play way more than you win Sad Cheers

maximumfun's avatarmaximumfun

YIKES

Lucky Loser

Quote: Originally posted by JoeBigLotto on May 14, 2012

l can help you a lot because the only games i play are pick3 ,pick4 and roullette. And this is my true story if you want to believe it do and if you don't want to its ok. l was at home one day in florida and i said to myself why don't you use your maths skill to gamble since i was among the top ten in maths in my class so i said ok i will try. i began playing pick3 and pick4 .i bought 0175 on sunday night for two days and on sunday night i did not win .so on monday night i bought another 0175 on cash4 fifty cents straight and i forgot i bought one on sunday night for two days. so on monday night i was watching tv draw and the winning number was 0175 .i was so happy i won $2500 with fifty cents straight. while i was going thru my junk or lossing tickets i found another 0175 from sunday so now i have two $2500 tickets for total of $5,000. so i was like what do i do now . so i went to orlando mall and bought lots of clothes and shoes spent about $800 the cashier said my card was not good looking at me like i stole it. i said listen i won the lottery and my card is full and good so why dont you look for another machin to scan it with that must be the only bad thing i see. she said ok what ever and found a new machin terminal and my card was good and i said you see i told you so.so when you win people will think you stole money .so now my next move was to fly to atlantic city for the first time with my new lucky white jacket to gamble like trump. so i was in the plane and the flight attendant said what do you want i said the best you have ,i was feeling like a high roller now eating in the sky and plane tilting just enough for me to see America bellow me that was sweet. so now i get to atlantic city and went to Bogata casino and walked arround and nothing got my interest except the skimpy women and cute hostess until i saw the roullette table. l fell in love with the roullette table and the dealer said its easy play red or black or numbers. so i played numbers and i won alot and lost alot and at the end of round one i lost $200. I was like wow how do i get my $200 back so i took out another $200 from ATM and the dealer said you back and i said yes i be back like terminator. so this time i built a new strategy i bet $1 on fifteen different numbers and i bet $12 each on any three numbers on the same role so i bet on 13,14,15 and my little bets arround it like security incase i miss my big bet. So the ball landed on 13 and i won big and at the end i walked away with profit of $1200 not bad for first time on a roullette table. so now i win on cash3 and take the money to casino roullete and i win on roullette and use the money to play cash3 and cash4. so my point is instead of compairing odds on this three games why dont you treat them like three girl friends that you have and love and not sure which one of them will make you happy tonight. Because life is so complex bet on the unexpected since you are asking of ways to win. for example if you want to bet $100 on red l will say bet against yourself and bet $50 on black and $25 on zero and the last $25 on zero zero. Try it tonight and tell me how it went. lol

Hi Joe. I really like the part about three girlfriends! However, three girlfriends is always more expensive than just one, LOL!! I do see where you're coming from though...the momentum on one game could very well be much better than the others. Well, let me tell you a little about what I do. Pretty much everything game-wise has been incorporated online in some way, okay. There are various softwares one can download which contain various games for one to practice on, or, play for real. Well, I have most of them, and I spend my time actually testing the consistency of the software which powers these games.

For the most part, I spend my time on the Craps and Roulette deals in an effort to substantiate claims of the games' being able to produce (mimic) the real deal. Generally, and from data I've gathered thus far, they're pretty much on point...you don't lose all the time and neither do you win all the time. And, as on slot machines, the higher you bet the more you win and the more consistent the wins are...within reason.

Can't be greedy just like with anything else. But, my research was to try and discover what I felt were hidden trends within the games...things which would unawaringly tell off that it's about to start paying off really well. I believe I've found such a sign and I'm now working on the consistency of this particular thing which happens. I test the software in time limited sessions over and over just to establish whether or not it's random, or, a purposely timed event based on bet level and coverage. It's an "intelligent" software.

Now, I'm not certified in this area or anything like that, okay. But, I know how to test what they claim the games are suppose to do...and if it's supposed to do a certain thing, then that certain thing must surely convey a sign of some type in some way. My logic is this: we're humans programming these machines and we're not perfect which renders the softwares imperfect. Just like with anything else, when there's a change, it's detectable and we see it...or should at least because everything is on a pattern of some sort.

In my opinion, this is why there are so many pre-draws in all the Pick games...players can easily figure that from one single draw to the next, the same thing is very unlikely to happen. Look at how single digits repeat from one draw to the next...with (10) ten numbers to choose from. Want better? Try having the same exact pair of numbers repeat. How about the exact same (3) numbers returning? Numerical cycling. This can help and hurt players alike. The player that removes such numbers and pairs will lose. The one that plays it all back on that particular draw will win. It's a wash and designed this way purposely.

I'm honestly trying to get as good as a few fellas I know personally that move pretty good paper on virtual Roulette and Craps...couldn't believe it. I, personally, could never do it with Pick 3 or Pick 4 and I consider my self pretty descent with the ball games. I think you get my point. Hey, thanks for the response and I might just get a "Trump" jacket also even though my personal Vegas is right at home!! Take care, man!!

 

L.L.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Lucky Loser,

From the other side of the pit, roulette is a pain to deal because it attracts so many systems (odd / even, black / red, etc...) and cheats, mostly past posters and past posters teamed with a blocker or blockers.

As far as odds go, of course they're a lot better on roulette. The house edge for almost all the bets is 5.26% and Pick 3 is much more than that.

When the casinos put those poles next to the wheels that track the last spins roulette revenue went up 23%.

Just as with all the other games, the casino 'will fly system players to come play'. Most people are really 'stayers not players'  - "Came to stay, not to play"  - and the longer they play the more chance they give the odds to prove  themselves.

There's one system that sounds great but is a real trap- 1 to 18 and the 3rd dozen. Theorhetically you have 30 numbers going for you and 8 against you. Sounds good, right? Even when it wins it's a real grind but it doesn't win that often.

JoeBigLotto's avatarJoeBigLotto

Quote: Originally posted by Lucky Loser on May 14, 2012

Hi Joe. I really like the part about three girlfriends! However, three girlfriends is always more expensive than just one, LOL!! I do see where you're coming from though...the momentum on one game could very well be much better than the others. Well, let me tell you a little about what I do. Pretty much everything game-wise has been incorporated online in some way, okay. There are various softwares one can download which contain various games for one to practice on, or, play for real. Well, I have most of them, and I spend my time actually testing the consistency of the software which powers these games.

For the most part, I spend my time on the Craps and Roulette deals in an effort to substantiate claims of the games' being able to produce (mimic) the real deal. Generally, and from data I've gathered thus far, they're pretty much on point...you don't lose all the time and neither do you win all the time. And, as on slot machines, the higher you bet the more you win and the more consistent the wins are...within reason.

Can't be greedy just like with anything else. But, my research was to try and discover what I felt were hidden trends within the games...things which would unawaringly tell off that it's about to start paying off really well. I believe I've found such a sign and I'm now working on the consistency of this particular thing which happens. I test the software in time limited sessions over and over just to establish whether or not it's random, or, a purposely timed event based on bet level and coverage. It's an "intelligent" software.

Now, I'm not certified in this area or anything like that, okay. But, I know how to test what they claim the games are suppose to do...and if it's supposed to do a certain thing, then that certain thing must surely convey a sign of some type in some way. My logic is this: we're humans programming these machines and we're not perfect which renders the softwares imperfect. Just like with anything else, when there's a change, it's detectable and we see it...or should at least because everything is on a pattern of some sort.

In my opinion, this is why there are so many pre-draws in all the Pick games...players can easily figure that from one single draw to the next, the same thing is very unlikely to happen. Look at how single digits repeat from one draw to the next...with (10) ten numbers to choose from. Want better? Try having the same exact pair of numbers repeat. How about the exact same (3) numbers returning? Numerical cycling. This can help and hurt players alike. The player that removes such numbers and pairs will lose. The one that plays it all back on that particular draw will win. It's a wash and designed this way purposely.

I'm honestly trying to get as good as a few fellas I know personally that move pretty good paper on virtual Roulette and Craps...couldn't believe it. I, personally, could never do it with Pick 3 or Pick 4 and I consider my self pretty descent with the ball games. I think you get my point. Hey, thanks for the response and I might just get a "Trump" jacket also even though my personal Vegas is right at home!! Take care, man!!

 

L.L.

ok cool. if the story i told above sounds too good to be true well welcome to my life because i have better ones too. On february the 22nd 2012 .l was travelling from houston texas to chatanooga tennessee so i decided to stop on i-24 an interstate between georgia and tennessee to play cash4 box. few days earlier i remembered i was in texas and i played 4424 and 4422 trying to win $600 and $400 for fifty cents box because triplets and twins pay more money but the result was like 2246 so i lost . Now am between georgia and tennessee and i came up with a new strategy i decided to play 2246 4246 6246 all box for $1 each and told the retailer to run all twice and i drove one mile to tennessee side of the interstate and played the same numbers twice.My plan was if i don't win in tennessee i will win in georgia so i was optimising my odds and also it was a wednesday and i play even numbers on wednesday so i was confident.That night on the 22nd of february 2012 something miraculous happened georgia cash4 result was 4662 and tennessee cash4 result was 4626 so they are practically the same numbers but different arrangement so i won $800 in tennessee and $800 in georgia both with the same number on the same night from two seperate lottery system and two seperate states .l was so happy even james bond can't pull this off in real life. So i went to smokey barbecue in chattanooga tennessee and tore the house down with ribs and beer and tip five waitresses that took care of my appetite.So i dont use people systems or software personally i have a natural app in my brain to deal with and last christmas like two days b4 christmas i won six cash3 tickets in florida for $500 each for total of $3,000 and took a vacation with it to key west and spent all $3,000 in seven days well rooms alone was like $250 per night.so far have won cash3 in as many as twenty different states.l also won $250 in clarksville tennesse drove 15miles to kenturky and won $600 because kenturky pays $100 extra in price.l went to missouri won $1200 and after i cashed that i used my winning to play for another $100 and i won again in missouri for $3,000 last month. so you have to use your own style and ideas with no game plan just go with the flow and have fun with it .i dont think i ever need to buy anyones software so am happy with my natural app which is my thinking process. my next big win will hopefully take me to hawaii thats my goal so i dont really care about powerball and mega millions but i do play them only after i win cash3 and cash4 or the jackpot gets to $250,000,000 then i start having lotto fever. lol

time*treat's avatartime*treat

I think the odds on ANY casino game are more in the favor of gamers than the odds on any state online lottery games

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by JoeBigLotto on May 15, 2012

ok cool. if the story i told above sounds too good to be true well welcome to my life because i have better ones too. On february the 22nd 2012 .l was travelling from houston texas to chatanooga tennessee so i decided to stop on i-24 an interstate between georgia and tennessee to play cash4 box. few days earlier i remembered i was in texas and i played 4424 and 4422 trying to win $600 and $400 for fifty cents box because triplets and twins pay more money but the result was like 2246 so i lost . Now am between georgia and tennessee and i came up with a new strategy i decided to play 2246 4246 6246 all box for $1 each and told the retailer to run all twice and i drove one mile to tennessee side of the interstate and played the same numbers twice.My plan was if i don't win in tennessee i will win in georgia so i was optimising my odds and also it was a wednesday and i play even numbers on wednesday so i was confident.That night on the 22nd of february 2012 something miraculous happened georgia cash4 result was 4662 and tennessee cash4 result was 4626 so they are practically the same numbers but different arrangement so i won $800 in tennessee and $800 in georgia both with the same number on the same night from two seperate lottery system and two seperate states .l was so happy even james bond can't pull this off in real life. So i went to smokey barbecue in chattanooga tennessee and tore the house down with ribs and beer and tip five waitresses that took care of my appetite.So i dont use people systems or software personally i have a natural app in my brain to deal with and last christmas like two days b4 christmas i won six cash3 tickets in florida for $500 each for total of $3,000 and took a vacation with it to key west and spent all $3,000 in seven days well rooms alone was like $250 per night.so far have won cash3 in as many as twenty different states.l also won $250 in clarksville tennesse drove 15miles to kenturky and won $600 because kenturky pays $100 extra in price.l went to missouri won $1200 and after i cashed that i used my winning to play for another $100 and i won again in missouri for $3,000 last month. so you have to use your own style and ideas with no game plan just go with the flow and have fun with it .i dont think i ever need to buy anyones software so am happy with my natural app which is my thinking process. my next big win will hopefully take me to hawaii thats my goal so i dont really care about powerball and mega millions but i do play them only after i win cash3 and cash4 or the jackpot gets to $250,000,000 then i start having lotto fever. lol

You sound like a lucky guy Joe.

Feel free to post or send me some numbers for Tennessee.

Thanks.

faber98

lucky he is, and so are the gas stations, motels and food joints in all those states that he seems to be constantly traveling in to play these things while his profit margin is being chewed to threads. if it works continue, but a dry spell or a well timed or placed tornado could upset the applecart for this guy.

JoeBigLotto's avatarJoeBigLotto

Quote: Originally posted by faber98 on May 15, 2012

lucky he is, and so are the gas stations, motels and food joints in all those states that he seems to be constantly traveling in to play these things while his profit margin is being chewed to threads. if it works continue, but a dry spell or a well timed or placed tornado could upset the applecart for this guy.

Well am alot more smarter than you think. l have a class A CDL and l drive a tractor trailer for an expedited company.And l do have a co driver and we both can drive from florida east coast to california west coast in less time than you think. We both can drive about 1500 miles in any 24hr period.So i get paid to travel and i do not pay for any gas not even one penny.Last two weeks i was in mineapolis MN for the first time and the first day the thursday 26th of april 2012 i played cash3 and lost $40 but the next day friday the 27th of april i played cash3 again and won $660 .l could not cash it because the retailer gave me the winning number 665 for $2 straight and box but i wanted $1 straight and box since everystate interpret state and box differently i won over $600 . i hate winning over $600 on one ticket .The retailer tried to cancel it as i requested but the machine in MN closed at 6.05pm unlike florida 7.45pm so i told her ok i will keep it. it won so now i had to wait till monday to go to lottery office downtown and then visit the Mall of America and have fun.But my company didn't keep me there till monday they sent me to fort wayne indiana .So for now am stuck with the winning ticket wraped in plastic bag in my wallet the only thing that can distroy it is water.l may mail it and claim it by mail but i have six months or more i think to claim it so now am just letting it relax in my wallet.So sorry i dont pay for gas or motel my company pay for all plus for everymile that i travel so my job is perfect for my lottery goals.As we speak now am watching a flat screen tv in my truck sleeper at a truckstop in ohio and chatting with you on my laptop connected to my iphone .So maybe we can have lunch someday i come to your state lol.

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by JoeBigLotto on May 15, 2012

Well am alot more smarter than you think. l have a class A CDL and l drive a tractor trailer for an expedited company.And l do have a co driver and we both can drive from florida east coast to california west coast in less time than you think. We both can drive about 1500 miles in any 24hr period.So i get paid to travel and i do not pay for any gas not even one penny.Last two weeks i was in mineapolis MN for the first time and the first day the thursday 26th of april 2012 i played cash3 and lost $40 but the next day friday the 27th of april i played cash3 again and won $660 .l could not cash it because the retailer gave me the winning number 665 for $2 straight and box but i wanted $1 straight and box since everystate interpret state and box differently i won over $600 . i hate winning over $600 on one ticket .The retailer tried to cancel it as i requested but the machine in MN closed at 6.05pm unlike florida 7.45pm so i told her ok i will keep it. it won so now i had to wait till monday to go to lottery office downtown and then visit the Mall of America and have fun.But my company didn't keep me there till monday they sent me to fort wayne indiana .So for now am stuck with the winning ticket wraped in plastic bag in my wallet the only thing that can distroy it is water.l may mail it and claim it by mail but i have six months or more i think to claim it so now am just letting it relax in my wallet.So sorry i dont pay for gas or motel my company pay for all plus for everymile that i travel so my job is perfect for my lottery goals.As we speak now am watching a flat screen tv in my truck sleeper at a truckstop in ohio and chatting with you on my laptop connected to my iphone .So maybe we can have lunch someday i come to your state lol.


Roll on, (roll on) big mama, I like the way you sing

Roll on (roll on) big mama, the night time lets her breathe

Well, the feel of the wheel delivers me from a life where I don't wanna be

And the diesel smoke with every stroke sings a song with a heavy note

And ramblin is the life I chose, sittin here between the doors

The yellow line a keepin time, with the things that's a runnin through my mind, through my mind

Roll on (roll on) big mama, I like the way you roll

Roll on (roll on) big mama, you are my very soul

On through the snow and the drivin rain, to the forty-below in Bangor Maine

To the hundred-and-ten in the Texas sun, there ain't no road that we ain't run

Up through the Colorado mountain tops, Down to the desert where Reno stops

North to the green of Coeur D' Alene There ain't no road that we ain't seen We ain't seen

Roll on (roll on) big mama, you're singing out my song

Roll on (roll on) big mama, the highway is our home,

Roll on(roll on) big mama.


Hey anybody got a copy on this silver roadhog? What's the smokey situation down the way, boys? Mighty fine, I'm a commin I'm a commin.

 

~Joe Stampley

Lucky Loser

Quote: Originally posted by time*treat on May 15, 2012

I think the odds on ANY casino game are more in the favor of gamers than the odds on any state online lottery games

Gamer; a person who plays a game or games, typically a participant in a roll playing game.

Noun


Right you are on all accounts here! This morning and evening I watched a friend of mine make $315 first, and then $405...$720 on two sessions which were around 20-25 min. each!!!! Not bad at all in my book!!! As a side note, this was also above and beyond what he started with. He did go under for a couple of rounds before things took off, though... which I believe is the key. A player has to be willing to lose FIRST before making money in the end. This costs money, and, is something most players aren't willing to part with. Can't have your cake and eat it, too. Only the government can do that.

I ended up with only $200 and $150 for my two sessions...chump change. I'll get better, though...trust me on that.


L.L.

Nino224's avatarNino224

Wasn't this reporter curious at all about how somebody hits Play4 straight 100 times in one year?? I think that's the story, and not how much people are playing. We all know how much Floridians play. This year at least 2 records have been broken for the amount of scratch-offs sold.

Tell me something I don't know, like how to win 100 times!!

faber98

Quote: Originally posted by JoeBigLotto on May 15, 2012

Well am alot more smarter than you think. l have a class A CDL and l drive a tractor trailer for an expedited company.And l do have a co driver and we both can drive from florida east coast to california west coast in less time than you think. We both can drive about 1500 miles in any 24hr period.So i get paid to travel and i do not pay for any gas not even one penny.Last two weeks i was in mineapolis MN for the first time and the first day the thursday 26th of april 2012 i played cash3 and lost $40 but the next day friday the 27th of april i played cash3 again and won $660 .l could not cash it because the retailer gave me the winning number 665 for $2 straight and box but i wanted $1 straight and box since everystate interpret state and box differently i won over $600 . i hate winning over $600 on one ticket .The retailer tried to cancel it as i requested but the machine in MN closed at 6.05pm unlike florida 7.45pm so i told her ok i will keep it. it won so now i had to wait till monday to go to lottery office downtown and then visit the Mall of America and have fun.But my company didn't keep me there till monday they sent me to fort wayne indiana .So for now am stuck with the winning ticket wraped in plastic bag in my wallet the only thing that can distroy it is water.l may mail it and claim it by mail but i have six months or more i think to claim it so now am just letting it relax in my wallet.So sorry i dont pay for gas or motel my company pay for all plus for everymile that i travel so my job is perfect for my lottery goals.As we speak now am watching a flat screen tv in my truck sleeper at a truckstop in ohio and chatting with you on my laptop connected to my iphone .So maybe we can have lunch someday i come to your state lol.

inasmuch as you are a long distance truck driver (allegedlly) would alleviate and explain the travel and associated costs. however, i hope your company appreciates the time you spend buying and cashing all these "winning" tickets. i just think this is a "fish story" as the odds of hitting a paltry pik 3 are 1000-1 and no one could hit that many this often. disclose how much you invest in each draw to get these constant hits.

JoeBigLotto's avatarJoeBigLotto

well you have two parts to your question even though it sounds tough for you but it is so easy for me to answer most of them.the first part is this ,when you go to the state of florida and pick up a cash3 slip and play 665 straight and box and mark it $1 ,the cashier will bill you $1 and that means fifty cents goes to straight and fifty cents goes to box.when i got to minnesota i picked up a slip and marked it $1 straight and box.this cashier however billed me $2 meaning in minesota $1 goes to straight to win me $500 and $1 goes to box to win me $160. so total win was $660  but the total winning i wanted was $330 ( $250 for straight and $80 for box ).So every state intepret straight and box differently some state will break it into two and some state will double it by two so this created a problem for me.Now the second part about my company well am not always on the clock so the compoany really have no business what i do with my off duty time and the law requires me to drive 11hrs in any 24hrs so my co driver take over.Now have become very smart with my time and how i play.l have blank slips from everystate i visit in my traveling bag so what i do is i mark it b4 we get to the fuel stations my job is to pay for fuel my co driver is to pump.so now it takes us about 20 mins to buy about $800 worth of disel so as am paying for it i give the cashier my already filled slips to run when i come back in to get my second receipt i get my tickets and vanish. so have mastered how to be time efficient like a ninja.And also i do not wait to cash it like you think i proceed to my destination and i cash it on my way back .And am more smart than my company and i make more money from lottery than my company pays me so the lottery is now my first job thats right money talks lol. And to prove how smart have gotten when i won in missouri for $1200 the cashier told me i dont have enough money to pay you i said dont worry just use it to pay for my $800 in disel since my company already paid me i put my company cash in my pocket and paid for the diesel with my ticket so there are ways to work arround all obstacles and as to how i always win well its natural if you hunt for deers the first three kill is tough but after two years you will even be able to make sounds that will bring the deer to you so its life the more you play the more you win the more you develop new technics.The lottery departments are getting smarter and the players are adapting and getting smarter too so its the ultimate star wars of numbers and am having fun with it. l will love to tell you all my new ways but my time as you can see is moving at 75miles an hr for real.

JoeBigLotto's avatarJoeBigLotto

Quote: Originally posted by faber98 on May 16, 2012

inasmuch as you are a long distance truck driver (allegedlly) would alleviate and explain the travel and associated costs. however, i hope your company appreciates the time you spend buying and cashing all these "winning" tickets. i just think this is a "fish story" as the odds of hitting a paltry pik 3 are 1000-1 and no one could hit that many this often. disclose how much you invest in each draw to get these constant hits.

Well here you talk about your odds of winning being 1 in 1000 but you see thats is not the odds i play with we both play on different odd calculation system. you see in my world have develop my odds to be about 1 in 100 let me explain.ok lets say you want to play the number 123 and your odds of winning is 1 in 1000.this is how l play it. l replace the 1 with the letter x to create x23 so i bet 023 123 223 323 423 523 623 723 823 923 cost my $5 at fifty cents straight but my odds of winning with my x system changes my odd to i in 100.And l have lots of ways to manipulating numbers without fraud or breaking the law .Just because you cant figure it out doesnt mean its imposible to creat your way to win.

JoeBigLotto's avatarJoeBigLotto

Quote: Originally posted by faber98 on May 16, 2012

inasmuch as you are a long distance truck driver (allegedlly) would alleviate and explain the travel and associated costs. however, i hope your company appreciates the time you spend buying and cashing all these "winning" tickets. i just think this is a "fish story" as the odds of hitting a paltry pik 3 are 1000-1 and no one could hit that many this often. disclose how much you invest in each draw to get these constant hits.

as to how much i invest per game to get result is not relivant. this is why playing to me is a progressive game just like driving a truck you start at low gear and move to higher gear. when i was at clarksville tennessee l had only $50 in my wallect and by 6pm l spent $5 on 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 and the result at 7.30 pm in clarksville tn was 171 so i won $250 now that i have $250 0f play money i drove 15miles to kenturky and bet $50 on cash3 and i hit a combo or super straight for $600 each ticket cost me $6 the result in kenturky was like 576 at 11pm so i had time to pull it off so i won in two states for $850 and all i had 5hrs earlier was $50. so investment cost has got nothing to do with it start slowly untill you get free play money to advance to next level if you dont then just keep playing little money for now you can start as low as fifty cents .

maximumfun's avatarmaximumfun

Quote: Originally posted by JoeBigLotto on May 16, 2012

as to how much i invest per game to get result is not relivant. this is why playing to me is a progressive game just like driving a truck you start at low gear and move to higher gear. when i was at clarksville tennessee l had only $50 in my wallect and by 6pm l spent $5 on 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 and the result at 7.30 pm in clarksville tn was 171 so i won $250 now that i have $250 0f play money i drove 15miles to kenturky and bet $50 on cash3 and i hit a combo or super straight for $600 each ticket cost me $6 the result in kenturky was like 576 at 11pm so i had time to pull it off so i won in two states for $850 and all i had 5hrs earlier was $50. so investment cost has got nothing to do with it start slowly untill you get free play money to advance to next level if you dont then just keep playing little money for now you can start as low as fifty cents .

Sounds like you have turned the lottery into a nice part-time job for yourself.  good for you!  enjoy!  i can't wait to hear more of your exploits.

JoeBigLotto's avatarJoeBigLotto

Quote: Originally posted by maximumfun on May 16, 2012

Sounds like you have turned the lottery into a nice part-time job for yourself.  good for you!  enjoy!  i can't wait to hear more of your exploits.

well taking care of my company sometimes is the easiest part of my strategy .if i absolutely have to like one time i needed to enter michigan to collect $1000 in two winning cash3 tickets i just turned off my company GPS system for half hr and told them i lost satelite signal lol and after i got done getting my money about 25miles off course i turned back the GPS system back on so i was invisible or a real ghost or ninja for half hr completely invisible.lol

faber98

Quote: Originally posted by JoeBigLotto on May 16, 2012

Well here you talk about your odds of winning being 1 in 1000 but you see thats is not the odds i play with we both play on different odd calculation system. you see in my world have develop my odds to be about 1 in 100 let me explain.ok lets say you want to play the number 123 and your odds of winning is 1 in 1000.this is how l play it. l replace the 1 with the letter x to create x23 so i bet 023 123 223 323 423 523 623 723 823 923 cost my $5 at fifty cents straight but my odds of winning with my x system changes my odd to i in 100.And l have lots of ways to manipulating numbers without fraud or breaking the law .Just because you cant figure it out doesnt mean its imposible to creat your way to win.

but joe, just by increasing your combinations does not change the odds of winning. it just means you bet 10 times as much as it would take to get you into a 100-1 situation. i really don't understand your manipulating of numbers and what fraud or law breaking situation that there is that you don't break. anyone can play any amount of numbers or combinations or amounts without breaking the law. i don't know what you mean by that. mathematically it doesn't matter if you spread out your 2 digit combination (23) for example, and add 10 different 1st digits, it is still 1000-1 to hit it. you just have 10 extra combinations which costs 10 times as much. they payout is only 500-1 making this a bad bet in those states with fixed payoffs. there are some states that pay more for their 3 digit, you should restrict your play to those states. you seem to have unbridled enthusiasm for this, but the 50% takeout you are facing has to doom you eventually.

JoeBigLotto's avatarJoeBigLotto

Quote: Originally posted by faber98 on May 17, 2012

but joe, just by increasing your combinations does not change the odds of winning. it just means you bet 10 times as much as it would take to get you into a 100-1 situation. i really don't understand your manipulating of numbers and what fraud or law breaking situation that there is that you don't break. anyone can play any amount of numbers or combinations or amounts without breaking the law. i don't know what you mean by that. mathematically it doesn't matter if you spread out your 2 digit combination (23) for example, and add 10 different 1st digits, it is still 1000-1 to hit it. you just have 10 extra combinations which costs 10 times as much. they payout is only 500-1 making this a bad bet in those states with fixed payoffs. there are some states that pay more for their 3 digit, you should restrict your play to those states. you seem to have unbridled enthusiasm for this, but the 50% takeout you are facing has to doom you eventually.

Well you are focusing too much on numbers that have nothing to do with the fun and luck of the game. first of all you need to start thinking positively and that will help you win. two things happens when you play you either win or loss. so am not worried about being doom eventually because we live in a planet that is being doomed eventually and we live in a universe to the best of my knowlege will eventually run out of hydrogen and the stars will go dead so non of that bothers me .when i play the lottery i play to win and am 100 percent positive about that and the only doom that i see in my future is winning more money and up to ten million dollars .even though i know i may not make it but am having fun trying .just like having a girlfriend and going to bed may be the best fun for you but for me its the journey we take together.so the lottery for me is a fun journey and am happy with it for now.Now as for me playing ten extra you need to understand i didnt say ten extra quick picks or ten extra random numbers but this is ten extra strategic game plan that works for me but there is something else i didnt tell you about me that is dangerous or hard to understand is my instint for numbers and that is what creats the last two digit you trying to figure out. so i can't tell you how my instint works but i can give you a real life example.l was in the state of massachusetts and i wanted to play cash3 but the state of MA does not have cash3 but they have cash4 and they let you play the back3 of there cash4 like cash3 almost same price as anywhere else. so it was a monday morning and my instint said to me play 40 because 40 normally comes out on mondays so i went to the store and i played x040 x140 x240 x340 x440 x540 x640 x740 x840 x940 two hours later the result was 5440 so i won with x440 and since i bet $1 on it i won $655 because in MA price are paid based on ammount of winners so less people won so instead of me getting $500 l got $655 sucks because i had to go to lottery office and pay $32 in tax it was over $600. now my mention of fraud is because when people hear you won alot they think you doing something illegal so i was making it clear to you i don't need to do that to win thats all i was trying to say. And in florida one time l was buying some chicken strips from publix supermarket in the afternoon and the cashier said your price is $2.46 and a light bulb just went up in my head so i went to the lottery cashier and played 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 spent $5 and 4hrs later it was 244 so i won $250 plus my delicios chicken strips .So all the numbers in the world that you may have may not help you if you lack instint for numbers.And right now my instint tells me to look forward to my future hawaii vacation in waikiki so maybe i will send you some vacation pictures that is the only doom i can see.

faber98

goodness gracious joe. i am just relaying info on payouts. you have it wrong in massacusetts where i reside. they draw a 4 digit number twice daily now. you can either play all 4 or 1st 3 or last 3 or middle 2 (which would suit you i guess). everyone here at least knows you must buy the 3 digit play in .50 increments to avoid the taxes.(you didn't) the payoffs here average 700.00 for 3 opposed to your paltry 500.00 in some of the states in which you ply through. being that as it may, i understand you can't play here exclusively but watch your tax ticket play. so easy to avoid. as far as the planet being doomed before you go clean, i tend to think that is farfetched. those stars aren't in our universe incidentally, so if a couple flame out it is some other solar systems problem. your chances of running into a tornado are even better than you hitting a 3 digit. there really isn't much strategy in what you are doing (mainly wheeling a 2 digit number). next time in ma play a 10.00 2 digit and your tax worry will be alleviated.

JoeBigLotto's avatarJoeBigLotto

Quote: Originally posted by faber98 on May 17, 2012

goodness gracious joe. i am just relaying info on payouts. you have it wrong in massacusetts where i reside. they draw a 4 digit number twice daily now. you can either play all 4 or 1st 3 or last 3 or middle 2 (which would suit you i guess). everyone here at least knows you must buy the 3 digit play in .50 increments to avoid the taxes.(you didn't) the payoffs here average 700.00 for 3 opposed to your paltry 500.00 in some of the states in which you ply through. being that as it may, i understand you can't play here exclusively but watch your tax ticket play. so easy to avoid. as far as the planet being doomed before you go clean, i tend to think that is farfetched. those stars aren't in our universe incidentally, so if a couple flame out it is some other solar systems problem. your chances of running into a tornado are even better than you hitting a 3 digit. there really isn't much strategy in what you are doing (mainly wheeling a 2 digit number). next time in ma play a 10.00 2 digit and your tax worry will be alleviated.

ok we all cool now .l admit i don't know all the tricks and rules about massachusett lottery but i did good for being there for only six hrs and winning $655 but next time i come there i dont make the same mistake twice i will play the two digits like you said for like $20 hopefully i win big. And now that i know which state you live in feel free to email me here and i could send you some lucky numbers for MA when i have it or feeling it . l think my expertise with number can help you win alot of money and maybe you join me in waikiki hawaii we can all be a big lotto club lol.Do you surf l love the little waves. lol

faber98

Quote: Originally posted by JoeBigLotto on May 17, 2012

ok we all cool now .l admit i don't know all the tricks and rules about massachusett lottery but i did good for being there for only six hrs and winning $655 but next time i come there i dont make the same mistake twice i will play the two digits like you said for like $20 hopefully i win big. And now that i know which state you live in feel free to email me here and i could send you some lucky numbers for MA when i have it or feeling it . l think my expertise with number can help you win alot of money and maybe you join me in waikiki hawaii we can all be a big lotto club lol.Do you surf l love the little waves. lol

not ragging on you joe, just trying to help. impressed with your unbridled enthusiasm for the daily numbers game. although we have the highest payouts in the country here we're still bucking tremendous odds to hit those tough 3 digit paydays. i haven't nailed one in months, although almost weekly getting 2 out of 3. maybe i should try your wheel system. as far as hawaii goes i would have to sail through the panama canal as airport security and i do not see eye to eye. meanwhile i will stick with my first 3 exact and first 3 any and last 3 exact and last 3 any (on separate tickets to avoid taxes) sticking with the higher numbers and zero's to maximize the payoffs.

martingorgeous's avatarmartingorgeous

Some may say "The more often you play, the luckier you become."

But I still believe the odds of winning the lottery make it a game of DESTINY. FATE.

I reckon if we are to win the lottery, it was decided long before we were even born.

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