Indiana woman claims Blue Chip Casino owes her $28M

Comment #95

Stack47 — Mon, 24 Feb 2014 01:32:15 GMT

How could she have won anything.

According to the article, she believed she won lots of money, but it's all based on a software glitch with the rewards card screen.

In the lower level state gaming office, she filed this complaint

Because somebody on the upper level said she had a good case for a lawsuit. I agree with you offering a steak dinner was is generous, but because they can't know what a jury will say, the casino may offer more.

Comment #94

Stack47 — Sun, 23 Feb 2014 23:08:25 GMT

From my experience as a player, it's the players and not the dealers that use the lingo and I suppose they are doing it to empress the dealers and the other players. It's certainly a colorful way to explain why a Don't shooter can take down their bet after the point is established. Saying bet you didn't know a Don't shooter can take down their bets and continue rolling the dice doesn't mean much if they can't give a logical reason why a Don't shooter would take down their bet after the point is... [ More ]

Comment #93

Coin Toss — Sun, 23 Feb 2014 02:01:43 GMT

Every job has its own 'lingo', more commonly called jargon.

Catlin may not use it in his articles, but perhaps off camera, as you said.

As for the lingo, the guys who ran the dealer's schools in Vegas definitley used it. In fact I cleaned it up a little by saying 'cajones'.

Comment #92

jimmy4164 — Sun, 23 Feb 2014 01:01:24 GMT

I'm annoyingly between you and CT in this thread, mainly because I'm not as confident as you in the security of other communication mediums available. And with the delete key available to certain people, it's difficult to say anything which doesn't support the bottom line of the enterprise. As for Don Catlin, I've not seen him use such language, but wouldn't be surprised if he did, off camera.

Comment #91

Saylorgirl — Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:40:05 GMT

In this case she never as you put it pulled the trigger . She hadn't even put any money into the machine. All she did was insert her player card into the machine and the player card malfunctioned. How could she have won anything. These cards are similar to the ones we use at a grocery store and we get points or gas points on our purchases. They owe her nothing.

Comment #90

gra8*2win — Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:23:22 GMT

If i sat down to play a penny slot machine.....(which i have not, because i have never been in a casino) don't you know, or shouldn't you know what the

top prize for that machine will pay out.....before you pull the trigger.? When i scratch off a ticket and it tells me the top prize is a million dollars, and i

scratch off and see i have won 28 million, yes i would be happy, but i would also think this is a typo.......a error.........but i would want to be rewarded,

because it was not my... [ More ]

Comment #89

Stack47 — Sat, 22 Feb 2014 04:27:47 GMT

Hint: It's not what he thought.

I'm not the smartest guy in the room either, but smart enough to not to comment on what you were saying. However what I did comment on proved to be true in later posts.

Just wondering, does Don Catlin use casino lingo like has you by the cajones you want him to let go in his gaming articles

Comment #88

Stack47 — Sat, 22 Feb 2014 04:07:43 GMT

It's the dealers, box, and floor job to PROTECT THE GAME. That is the number one rule of casino work.

But after I pointed out the dealers flew out of the casino during a fire drill and it's not the numberl one rule, you Google Las Vegas casino fire and pretend you knew about it.

I worked with a guy

Yep, you worked with everybody and to you that trumps the same story in a book.

a lot of other people consider you an overopinionated obnoxious know-it-all creep who really doesn't kno... [ More ]

Comment #87

jimmy4164 — Sat, 22 Feb 2014 03:07:55 GMT

smart enough to know I'm not the smartest...

Do you know what I was trying to tell Stack47 above?

Hint: It's not what he thought.

Comment #86

Coin Toss — Sat, 22 Feb 2014 00:57:33 GMT

I was on a Craps table at the Showboat in AC (way back in the day) when they had a fire drill and the dealers beat the players out the door. The stick man said they were told to immediately exit the building and they did. That happened around 1997, but apparantly they still had fire drills in 2007.

That you think 1997 is 'way back in the day' is hysterical.

I guess you couldn't figure out that this was probably the policy after the MGM fire in Las Vegas or that somebody locked the lid on... [ More ]

Comment #85

Stack47 — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:52:16 GMT

I'm not interested in any more arguments by you or anyone else based on distorting what I said. A good example:

I guess those books you read never explained that in Vegas the shooter can take his bet off the Don't.

I was talking about stories, antidotes, and the experiences of writers who worked behind the table and you want to start an argument making irrelevant comments about my knowledge of the rules of the game.

the reasoning is that if a guy has you by the cajones you want him t... [ More ]

Comment #84

Stack47 — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 20:24:59 GMT

if your hit ratio is zero after five years

Even after that Pick-3 numbers good for all states experiment I did for over a month, my hit ratio is still about 1 hit for every ten predictions. My goal is to have 1 hit for every $100 bet playing pick-4 and I'll take that hit ratio for pick-3 anytime.

Comment #83

Stack47 — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 20:13:11 GMT

Are you beginning to realize that you can't win here?

Now that's funny because my question was why are there that many people obsessed with discussing spending imaginary lottery jackpot winnings. It's a no win situation trying to explain why only a tiny percentage of MM and PB players will win enough to buy a Big Mac.

The question here is does the Blue Chip Casino owe the woman $28 million because of a rewards card error. There was no $28 million slot machine jackpot, the symbols on the m... [ More ]

Comment #82

helpmewin — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:05:20 GMT

jimmy, are you a smart guy

Comment #81

helpmewin — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:02:40 GMT

(After all we are not running a soup kitchen

Comment #80

jimmy4164 — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:36:13 GMT

Are you beginning to realize that you can't win here? When you're dealing with people who think they are the smartest guys in the room, and they're holding the only weapons in the room, surgical instruments, they will always APPEAR to be the smartest guys in the room.

Comment #79

Coin Toss — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 01:19:25 GMT

Well Stack, thanks fro proving me right when I said you were in a quandry between you having to have the last word and whoever spoke next lost.

As for your highlight game, I'll play:

I asked why you didn't simply tell the players why they could remove a Don't bet and continue rolling the dice. Or like most rude dealers, you hope one of the other players explains it.

I guess those books you read never explained that in Vegas the shooter can take his bet off the Don't. the reasoning is... [ More ]

Comment #78

LottoBoner — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 00:03:02 GMT

I agree with Ridge, all socialist, welfare loving, non money having standard members should be banned. (After all we are not running a soup kitchen!)

And I agree with Ridge that all members without an avatar should be crucified.

But not that fake crucificixion with ropes. Its gotta be nails.

and again I agree with Ridge

if your hit ratio is zero after five years, castration is the only suitable reward.

Comment #77

rdgrnr — Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:53:03 GMT

As I said before, my creepy little stalker:

Like all cheap jerkoffs such as yourself, you have absolutely zero sense of humor.

Now go wash that greasy mullet, hick-boy.

Comment #76

Stack47 — Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:50:06 GMT

I'm glad you closed your diatribe of drivel with that little gem

Spin it any way you like, but you know you're trying to con a naive old guy out of his SS check. Just like the BS you said Standard memberships. Kudos because you did convince one of your groupies you weren't talking about her.

Comment #75

Stack47 — Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:25:42 GMT

How interesting that you would use the Hillary Benghazi defense.

I asked why you didn't simply tell the players why they could remove a Don't bet and continue rolling the dice. Or like most rude dealers, you hope one of the other players explains it.

Well i guess in all those books you've read about Vegas none off them ever told you that such players slow the game down which irritates the heck out of the bosses and brings heat on the game.

My point about gaming books was made clear i... [ More ]

Comment #74

rdgrnr — Thu, 20 Feb 2014 05:30:09 GMT

LOL, I don't think he'll be back, CT.

He's probably busy with his garage sales.

I bet he gets some really nice clothes there too.

Comment #73

Coin Toss — Thu, 20 Feb 2014 05:15:02 GMT

Well rdgrnr, Stack will be caught in a quandry between having to have the last word and knowing that between him and me whoever talks next loses.

Comment #72

rdgrnr — Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:00:37 GMT

I found 75 casino gambling and horse racing books at a garage sale bought them all for $10.

And now you go to casinos to play penny slots.

Man, those books are really paying off for you, huh Stanky?

You're a regular high-roller!

We're all so proud of you!

Let us know if you find anymore exciting treasures at your Kintucky garage sales

Comment #71

rdgrnr — Thu, 20 Feb 2014 03:36:28 GMT

I said --- Me and you (Coin Toss) could make a fortune

Then you said--- Putting the me before the you proves who is really planning on making a fortune.

I'm glad you closed your diatribe of drivel with that little gem Stanky, because it saves me a lot of time responding to an obnoxious, obtuse lamebrain like you.

Like all lib jerkoffs such as yourself, you have absolutely zero sense of humor.

You're about as interesting and funny and fun to be around as one of your heroes, Harry Re... [ More ]

Comment #70

Coin Toss — Thu, 20 Feb 2014 01:44:41 GMT

Stack47,

You are very reminiscent of a karate student with threee months in who took a few classes, read a book, and got his arse kicked out on the streets.

You say,

Sounds like you had serious issues with the players and finally realized you were in the wrong profession. On the scale of things, what possible difference did that player's ignorance make?

How interesting that you would use the Hillary Benghazi defense. What possbile difference . Well i guess in all those books you've... [ More ]

Comment #69

Stack47 — Wed, 19 Feb 2014 23:31:25 GMT

Here's what got Coin Toss fired up and as usual you started it and will continue to stir the pot:

Have ya got enough of that kinda stuff for a book?

That kinda stuff came out of someone else's book and lots of it was reenacted on TV shows.

Me and you could make a fortune

Why not just save time put your name over the author's?

With your knowledge of lottery games and gambling in general, I wouldn't expect you to know that kinda stuff is in hundreds of gambling books and used on... [ More ]

Comment #68

Stack47 — Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:48:00 GMT

Wehn the riverboats opened in the Midwest, Stack, a lot of players thought it was really prestigious to tell us how things run in Vegas

The same thing happened when they opened the casinos in Atlantic City. And it was no different a couple of years ago when Ohio got casinos and every place in between when a new casino opened. The majority of the dealers were just hired, schooled, had no experience, and made lots of mistakes. I heard players say that's not how it's done in Vegas and I heard e... [ More ]

Comment #67

Coin Toss — Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:14:13 GMT

Stack47,

A friend of mine when I was in Vegas was also a very good friend of Barney Vinson. Barney's real passions was writing Westerns but he got a bunch of rejection slips so his friend told him, Write what you know, write what you know.

Vinson was a floorman at Caesar's Palace when he wrote his books.

Wehn the riverboats opened in the Midwest, Stack, a lot of players thought it was really prestigious to tell us how things run in Vegas - they didn't realize most of the superivsors ha... [ More ]

Comment #66

rdgrnr — Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:04:48 GMT

Heh,heh,heh,heh,heh...

Yeah CT, I know another word for 'em - cheapskates.

Comment #65

rdgrnr — Wed, 19 Feb 2014 04:31:57 GMT

You can't get along with anybody, Stank.

Nothing's ever good enough for you.

You're smarter than everybody.

Nobody can say anything without you telling them how wrong they are or how redundant they are or what a liar they are or how their threads shouldn't be allowed.

You never have anything interesting to say, so you have to run down Coin Toss's posts which everybody enjoyed just to make yourself feel better. Look at me! I'm Stank, everybody! Look at me!

What a total jerkoff you... [ More ]

Comment #64

Stack47 — Wed, 19 Feb 2014 01:34:14 GMT

I'm not doubting you worked at some capacity in casinos and/or riverboats and saw lots of interesting stuff, but I'm saying others saw and heard similar stuff and published gaming books years ago. Barney Vinson wrote several gaming books including Las Vegas Behind the Tables part 1 and part 2. http://vinson.casinocitytimes.com/books/

If your headed, for Vegas for the first time take this book along. It's great fun to walk into a casino with your companions and start giving them the insiders... [ More ]

Comment #63

sully16 — Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:49:34 GMT

lol, love the lingo.

Comment #62

Coin Toss — Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:06:52 GMT

rdgrnr,

Back in the days of 25 cents craps (the chips were white) and freebie cigarettes (always off brands, usually lights) players that 'rented' a spot on the game for gours and hours for an occassioonal bet and free drinkks were known as A stack of whites, a pack of lights, and call the waitress. The shorter version of that was A stack, a pack, and coqtails .

Comment #61

rdgrnr — Tue, 18 Feb 2014 05:05:08 GMT

Stack,...

I have a hunch that one day you blew $5 or so in a casino and these kind of ridiculous postings of yours regarding casinos is you're attempt to get back at them for 'taking' your $5.

I have a hunch you're right, CT, but Stank said he knows casinos that have banks of penny slot machines so that $5 probably lasts him all day, LOL.

Comment #60

Coin Toss — Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:58:14 GMT

Stack,

Sorry to burst your bubble but it didn't comes out of books. I wokred in Vegas for 15 years and on riverboat casinos for 6. It was all first hand experience except for the Gaming Board repoert on attempted cheaters. And you? Tell us what casinos you worked in.

As for the $28M being put on the woman's players card, there was no $28M, thus no such entry.

You have no idea how many beefs casino people have with people who think they know a whole lot more than they actually do.

As... [ More ]

Comment #59

Stack47 — Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:04:26 GMT

Over payments are known as 'leakage' and it's just an accepted part of doing business, but when the leakage gets enough to be noticed everybody gets heat.

$28 million added to a player's reward card is probably considered more than just leakage especially if there is a chance the player has a legitimate case. In most states the gaming rules and regulations favor the casinos about the same way lottery rules and regs favor state lotteries. Whatever the ruling won't prevent a law suit.... [ More ]

Comment #58

helpmewin — Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:58:43 GMT

Comment #57

Stack47 — Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:40:25 GMT

Have ya got enough of that kinda stuff for a book?

That kinda stuff came out of someone else's book and lots of it was reinacted on TV shows.

Me and you could make a fortune

Why not just save time put your name over the author's

Comment #56

Stack47 — Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:22:48 GMT

Q: What happens when a slot machine malfunctions?

A: When a malfunction occurs the slot machine will normally not accept additional coins nor play existing credits, the lights on top will flash, the readout on the face of the machine will likely flash or display an unusual number or code (example: 3300 code), the reels may stop briefly then rotate or spin slowly, or there may be an on-screen indication of the problem, such as hopper empty or call attendant.

Comment #55

Coin Toss — Sun, 16 Feb 2014 04:28:44 GMT

Re: the OP, here's slot machine malfunction FAQs from the Nevada Gamin Control Board. Granted it's not Indiana, but the same info. applies:

FAQs - Slot Machine Malfunctions

The goal and objective of the Nevada Gaming Control Board is to ensure that gaming is conducted honestly and competitively and the public has confidence and trust in the gaming industry. In other words, we want the games to be fair and patrons to have a good time.

What do I do when a slot machine I am playing malfun... [ More ]

Comment #54

LottoMetro — Sun, 16 Feb 2014 02:34:09 GMT

lol...this reminds me of last year when a group hacked into casino's surveillance feed for a high-stakes table and used it to see opponents' poker cards. They ended up getting about $32 million.

Comment #53

RedStang — Sun, 16 Feb 2014 02:17:51 GMT

One time at Foxwoods casino there was a slot machine that had it's bin full of coins and no one was around. I looked at it for a minute and always wondered if it was a set up.

Comment #52

Coin Toss — Sun, 16 Feb 2014 02:09:26 GMT

Thanks for the compliments folks.

People seem to like these stories so here's two more.

Every year the Nevada Gaming Control Board (http://gaming.nv.gov/) publishes a report on ways of cheating that peoplel got caught at.

At one casino security was checking the parking lot and saw a camper with the door open and a tv on. But the tv was showing one of the blackjack tables in the casino. Security stopped and the two guys on the camper said, Come on in. Incredible. Their partner inside the... [ More ]

Comment #51

kapla — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 16:47:55 GMT

GREAT stories insite on this issue!! THANKS

Comment #50

CDanaT — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 16:16:42 GMT

Thanks CT.....great info......keep em comin

Comment #49

rdgrnr — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 13:29:27 GMT

Interesting stuff, CT, thanks.

Have ya got enough of that kinda stuff for a book?

Me and you could make a fortune

Comment #48

Saylorgirl — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:31:28 GMT

Thanks for all that info it was a very intersting read.

Comment #47

sully16 — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:04:54 GMT

Wow, this is interesting.

Comment #46

Coin Toss — Sat, 15 Feb 2014 06:15:56 GMT

Stack47,

Over payments are known as 'leakage' and it's just an accepted part of doing business, but when the leakage gets enough to be noticed everybody gets heat.

Players who complain they got shorted when they didn't are known as 'claim jumpers'. Another part of that is claim jumpers look for toursits who appear to not know the game and claim those players' winning bets. Once a person establishes themselves as a known claim jumper the casino will purposely not pay them and call security... [ More ]

Comment #45

Stack47 — Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:22:59 GMT

For the people in this thread saying the woman should get paid, what is it she should get paid for?

Those saying it are just as inexperienced with playing slot machines and using player cards as Carmin.

And she says a casino employee saw it. She was next to me. All I heard and saw, she started screaming 'supervisor!' at the top of her lungs. So I saw the numbers, heard 'supervisor!'

The story makes it look like Carmin matched the winning symbols on the slot machine, but she misread w... [ More ]

Comment #44

Stack47 — Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:07:43 GMT

She didn't even WIN the jackpot on the slot machine.

and it probably happens many times in scratch-off games. The casino was very generous in offering a steak dinner.

No reason to even think that you had won anything on the slot machine.

Who would have thought putting a hot cup of McDonald's coffee between their legs would result in a multi-million jackpot

Comment #43

Goteki54 — Fri, 14 Feb 2014 17:18:01 GMT

She deserved a coke and a smile and maybe a Happy Meal. This is a no brainer case. She is owed NOTHING!!

If that slot machine didn't advertise a $28 million dollar jackpot, then she is not owed one point blank. No slot machine would pay that kind of money. She's trying to milk this fake claim to try and get a few dollars out of it or she is that delussional in really thinking she's owed that.

Comment #42

JudyPlayer — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 00:33:55 GMT

The bettor is a loser.

Comment #41

uprrman — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:40:32 GMT

if you don't play the machine how can you win 28 mill

Comment #40

Candlelight777 — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 16:13:47 GMT

The current balance displayed was not related to a machine payout or machine jackpot. Part of the balance that displays when you check your card balance (like she did) are for promotional SLOT credits and can not be redeemed for cash. She thought she had won a promotional jackpot because this is where the casino promotional credits are displayed and show up. Not sure why she thought that was a cash winning, but either way, these promotions are for slot credits only.

Casinos are responsible f... [ More ]

Comment #39

OldSchoolPa — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 14:52:30 GMT

I DISAGREE 100 PERCENT!!!

Goudie asks: Do you think you actually deserve the 28 million?

They're always taking my money and I don't say: 'Umm is that computer wrong or did you overcharge me?' So I mean, yes, to answer your question, said Carmin.

This is classic entitlement attitude. Let us see here: the casinos are in the business to take people's money. No one forces anyone to walk into a casino and spend a single red cent. The wager per game is clearly stated, and you have the optio... [ More ]

Comment #38

Saylorgirl — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:55:36 GMT

The problem with them paying out is she NEVER put in any money or played the machine!! That is why she didn't win!! All she did was insert her player card and it read an erronous number on the display. When the card was removed and put back in it was zeros. But she doesn't deserve any payout since she never even played the machine.

Comment #37

helpmewin — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 10:27:46 GMT

Blue Chip Casino pay out!! will Your casino lose money

Comment #36

ttech10 — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 07:08:56 GMT

I feel like I've heard this story a few times.

My question is always what the highest jackpot amount on the machine says? It's probably not $28 million, so she isn't deserved that. If they can't prove she tampered with anything, then they should pay out the largest payout listed on the machine.

Comment #35

rdgrnr — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 01:51:20 GMT

some of these smaller casinos have a bank of penny slot machines

I was told 3300 is an error code and they paid me $500.

Comment #34

Get paid — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:46:05 GMT

I don,t think theirs casino in america that will pay 28,000,000 dollars,on a penny machine.Was this one of those Indian casinos.

Comment #33

Stack47 — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:16:13 GMT

Not $28 million mistakes, but mistakes are made everyday in casinos. Dealers over pay and under play players and the floor person usually straightens it out. There are players who complain they are not being paid correctly when they are. There is always arguments with the one roll prop bets in Craps. The gaming commissions have their rules and regs, the casinos have procedures, and a steak dinner is probably appropriate under the circumstances in this story.

Comment #32

Stack47 — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:56:26 GMT

Same thing happened to me when the machine showed 3300, but according to the pay table, I won $500. I was told 3300 is an error code and they paid me $500. I guess it's possible some of these smaller casinos have a bank of penny slot machines connect to several casinos, but the rolling jackpot usually scrolls somewhere on the machine. The thing that is clear are the symbols on the reels to win the jackpot and this s.

They say it appeared on Jennifer Carmin's customer account screen; as a cur... [ More ]

Comment #31

cgraphix1 — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:12:51 GMT

I like how their argument is who expects to win $28Million off of a $0.50 wager

Ummm, alot of people do actually. We put down a single dollar on the Mega and expect half a billion in return.

Comment #30

CDanaT — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:23:50 GMT

Trying to be fair to both sides, it's a tough call.....28 million ?? on a penny,nickle,dime,quarter or dollar doesn't seem reasonable....If you were taking about maybe a $50-$100 slot machine ?? Possible......

I believe there have been similar stories like this in the past......Perhaps there should be a maximum posted jackpot on each machine(if there isn't one already)

I truly hope the casino is forced to cough up a sizable chunk of change...maybe $280 K ??? and no steak dinner crap... [ More ]

Comment #29

HoLeeKau — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:37:14 GMT

You're gonna have to use your own microwave if you want them hot.

Comment #28

RedStang — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:43:15 GMT

That will happen to me when i hit a jackpot. Sorry stupid, it was a glitch and your still a loser. Here's a few Chimichangos for your pain and suffering.

Comment #27

dpoly1 — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:25:03 GMT

Pay HER

Comment #26

Shelby Mustang — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:20:16 GMT

What should she get paid for? I say give her 28,000 and a weekend in the top suite with comps for food and a show, its just to keep the players happy and not bad mouthing you casino. Since the shows food and rooms are paid for by the losers the only thing they'd be losing is the 28 grand, but that's a drop in the bucket to what they win. If I was the Casino owner I'd probably have those machines checked and doulbe checked to make sure that NEVER happened again and put that disclaimer on the back... [ More ]

Comment #25

Teddi — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:03:59 GMT

CT, I don't think it's about herself deserving anything. It's about the casino showing good faith. It raises people's suspicions when a claim of a computer glitch is given as a reason to avoid making a payment in a gambling establishment. There is already a sense that these places aren't trustworthy. It creates negative media attention they'll have to overcome; plus now they're going to spend how much on lawyers to prove they don't deserve to pay anything.

Why not take that money and give it... [ More ]

Comment #24

Teddi — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:45:31 GMT

Well, I've never played slots, don't think I've even been inside a casino, I'm guessing expecting a large payout on slot machines seem ridiculous to people who have played it. Not seeing how it's any more ridiculous than expecting $656,000,000 from a $1 investment. Seems to me that if the payout wasn't ridiculous compared to what gets put in, very few would play. How many would keep playing if the ticket price was $100?

The more ridiculous payout is what would help lure customers in to one c... [ More ]

Comment #23

Coin Toss — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 05:37:40 GMT

Thanks noise-gate. Saylorgirl pretty well described the scenario in her post.

Also let me add if there was such a jackpot that machine would have been under surveillance from the eye in the sky and people on the floor.

The Tropicana in Vegs had a slot that had a $2M jackpot. Every time it jammed and they had to call a slot mechanic there was the mechanic and two security people. One of the mechanics was an absolute nervous wreck when he worked on that one slot.

For the people in this th... [ More ]

Comment #22

noise-gate — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 03:42:14 GMT

Well that settles it then. Thanks CT.

Comment #21

Coin Toss — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 01:27:40 GMT

noise-gate,

Well I wan't pit. I was dealer then box/floor but thanks.

As for the OP, the IGB (Indiana Gaming Board) will go with this:

I think after the emotion subsides, most reasonable people would say 'Yeah, that doesn't make sense. I was wagering 50 cents and it said $28 million and there was nothing on the sign that said i had an opportunity to win that.' Clearly it was an error, said Aronovitz.

Carmin says she didn't see any disclaimer, only the $28.8 million.

I'm thinking... [ More ]

Comment #20

bomberos — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 01:03:21 GMT

They like taking it but they don't like giving it back...lol

PAY THE LADY.

Comment #19

hearsetrax — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 00:46:28 GMT

Comment #18

rcbbuckeye — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 00:26:39 GMT

Something similar happened more than once at Winstar in OK several years ago. Don't remember the details except there was a big report on the news. The casino said it was a glitch.

Comment #17

KY Floyd — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 00:01:23 GMT

I wonder if she'd also be stupid enough to think it would be okay to cash a tax refund check for $28 million.

Comment #16

faber98 — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 22:02:25 GMT

for someone who hates lotteries and casinos and gambling in general, you expend a lot of effort to tell everyone that nearly every day.

Comment #15

Saylorgirl — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 22:02:09 GMT

She didn't even WIN the jackpot on the slot machine. It was the plastic player card that glitched. The machine didn't go off no bells or whistles. No ring a ding ding. No matching fruit symbols. It was just her plastic (think hotel key) card. When they removed her card and reinserted it there were only 00/00. No reason to even think that you had won anything on the slot machine.

Comment #14

luckyshoes — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:43:26 GMT

Honor the bet.

Comment #13

mypiemaster — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:42:46 GMT

That's just it. When you win big money, and they don't want to pay, they call it computer glitch. When you lose big money due to a computer glitch, nobody bothers to inform you about it and refund your money. JUST PAY THE LADY.......at least $2.8M. She deserves at least that much. This is America.

Comment #12

THRIFTY — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:24:48 GMT

I would never spend my money on Casinos. I do not trust Casinos.

Comment #11

RJOh — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:23:26 GMT

If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

Such a crystal ball would probably only be right 99.9999% of the time which means I still have a 0.0001% chance of winning.

Comment #10

noise-gate — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:16:40 GMT

Coin Toss would know the answer to this situation. He was a Pit Boss at the Casino's in Vegas.

Come on CT- throw in your 2cents here,straighten the Forum out with your insights Ol Chap.

Comment #9

HoLeeKau — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:16:13 GMT

They should pay her the top Jackpot amount that the machine she was playing would pay for a 50 cent bet.

Comment #8

LottoMetro — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:11:14 GMT

She probably knows she'll lose and is just trying to squeeze a settlement out of them. $28 million on a penny slot....excluding the hold that doesn't contribute to the progressive, that would be nearly 3 billion pennies without a jackpot payout

Comment #7

RJOh — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:04:41 GMT

When Ohio had its Buckeye5 game they paid $100,000 for a 5of5 match and it was clearly posted on the play slips that total payouts were capped at $1M regardless of the number of winners. So when a player brought 20 tickets that matched 5of5 and thought he won $2M and sued, he lost the case because the discliamer was where he could have read it.

The casino should have posted the maximum a player could expect to win on a penny machine if a certain amount was unreasonable.

Before Ohio's Supe... [ More ]

Comment #6

Jani Norman — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:47:51 GMT

Carmin says she didn't see any disclaimer, only the $28.8 million.

I'm thinking I'm gonna pay off my mom's house. I'll pay off my best friend's house. I'll set something aside for my son. You have all of these all of a sudden dreams, said Carmin.

Talking about see your life flash before your eyes, how do you see in your mind all this being done without one red cent in your hands.

Comment #5

MDguy — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:33:37 GMT

Who expects to win 28 million off a penny slot? Even so 2 steak dinner coupons was pretty lame. At least offer to comp hotel and maybe offer a few hundred dollars in casino credit.

Comment #4

Saylorgirl — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:24:37 GMT

You can't play a penny machine and expect to win 28 million dollars. I agree a couple of dinners and a free night at the hotel is all they need to pay out.

Comment #3

faber98 — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:01:48 GMT

she should have take the steak dinners and given them to someone who likes steak. they owe her the amount she bet on that pull (.50) in the way of a credit on her next trip there. she deserves that at least but no more.

Comment #2

IPlayWeekly — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:26:13 GMT

Wow, interesting story... depending on how the ruling goes. Any casino can say software glitch and not pay. She's due something but not the full 28 milion (maybe a few hundred thousand or possibly even a 1 million) Thats a nice software glitch.

Comment #1

ogivens15 — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:25:40 GMT

Pay the Lady.............

Indiana woman claims Blue Chip Casino owes her $28M

Lottery Post — Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:16:17 GMT

Casino blames software glitch

Imagine feeling as though you are a multi-millionaire surrounded by well-wishers and then being told something must have gone haywire in the slot machine, and it was out of order.

Blue Chip Casino in Michigan City says a software glitch cause a colossal dollar amount to flash on the slot screen, just after a northwest Indiana woman sat down to play. She says it happened inside the Blue Chip on January 11, at a penny slot machine like this called China Shores.