Would you know a good bet if U-C-1

Reply #43

Badger — Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:05:09 GMT

Jeez WIN D....You are the first person I know that seems to understand Ion. LOL ! Ion must have an IQ in the stratosphere, because I know mine and I am no slouch....but he has always been entirely over my head.

Reply #42

WIN D — Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:50:52 GMT

A good bet is.... one with a higher than normal degree of certainty. Here is my hero talking about my idea of a good bet. Take any of the 50/50 odds situations within the Pick 3 game and group them together treating them as a single dvent ....with multiple steps demonstrates this. It demonstrates that the odds never change....but probability and DC does. Written by Ion Saliu on October 26, 2002 (2 WE); revised January 25, 2003 (3 WE). FORMULA.EXE, version 7.0, January 2003 (3 WE).This is t... [ More ]

Reply #41

nancy13 — Fri, 18 Feb 2005 04:00:37 GMT

for the pick 3 on friday 3/18 play 839 889 803 790 midday921 930 929 604 721 evening

Reply #40

JAP69 — Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:55:34 GMT

Well I played only 1 combo on todays mid the 801 for the big money.The 106 hit. No money today.

Reply #39

mysticwomyn — Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:43:43 GMT

I'll show you a good bet............take the 742 that fell awhile back on midday in PA.I did the Blackapple 434-343 workout..742=744473444 37443421788 128773867 3165254 47279 29another top secret workout from this workout gave me (I won't reveal) 9 7 3 2 1 7looking closely 729 is all over the place!!!! I'm waiting for another workout like this to happen.Sure enough 729 fell the next day... [ More ]

Reply #38

SirMetro — Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:20:02 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Sedertree on February 16, 2005I'm not going to try and convert anyone to combining the drawfiles, especially if they are dead set against it. But I would like to share my thoughts.Most lotteries have (X) number of machines and (X) number of ball sets. Do they have a percentage of (X) dedicated to one draw or the other? As far as I know, they do not. Any machine and any ball set can be used for either the Midday or Evening Draw.So IMO, it is wise to combine the draws... [ More ]

Reply #37

Teufellj — Wed, 16 Feb 2005 06:49:44 GMT

Hello again WinD, I would entertain that the last called winning set is the start of a winning combination. With this thought in mind-'How would I make it into a winner for the next draw?' Thus far all of the information that has been presented is valid. What I believe: Personal preferences are to be the starting points. Mixing; not mixing; how much data is required; tracking; math formulae; counting license plates and gut feelings: are all personal preferences in my estimation. If they work, t... [ More ]

Reply #36

Sedertree — Wed, 16 Feb 2005 05:37:30 GMT

I'm not going to try and convert anyone to combining the drawfiles, especially if they are dead set against it. But I would like to share my thoughts.Most lotteries have (X) number of machines and (X) number of ball sets. Do they have a percentage of (X) dedicated to one draw or the other? As far as I know, they do not. Any machine and any ball set can be used for either the Midday or Evening Draw.So IMO, it is wise to combine the draws for a more accurate analysis.

Reply #35

Teufellj — Wed, 16 Feb 2005 02:39:52 GMT

Hey there folks, I will readily agree with anyone that says, don't mix the midday and evening winning historys in pick3 and/or pick4 games as that situation can truly be a royal headache! Let's be fair though, there are at times good reasons to mix them. A long time back when, I produced a rundown chart with visual representations of both the midday game and the evening game with equal winning sets for comparison. While I was fiddling with these charts I noticed a vague similarity in some of t... [ More ]

Reply #34

Badger — Wed, 16 Feb 2005 01:04:58 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Justin on February 15, 2005Quote: Originally posted by Badger on February 13, 2005If you had been playing the 950 for the last 1400 or so draws in the Illinois Mid Day, you would have lost 1400 or so days in a row; since that's how long that combination has been out since last drawn.and that is a good reason to seperate draws.Most definitely ! Each to his/her own of course, but it has never made sense to me to combine the results because you have to play each game se... [ More ]

Reply #33

Justin — Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:54:28 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Badger on February 13, 2005If you had been playing the 950 for the last 1400 or so draws in the Illinois Mid Day, you would have lost 1400 or so days in a row; since that's how long that combination has been out since last drawn.and that is a good reason to seperate draws.

Reply #32

WIN D — Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:14:26 GMT

Thanks John. Anyone that knows about this game such as yourself ...that says that .....well ...it's sure worth paying attention.

Reply #31

JAP69 — Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:07:23 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on February 15, 2005 Say John...... This little sentence in your post up there interest me...LOL Maybe you could run that past again cause i'm a little slow on the up take ....thanks. There was the obvious for today 02/04/05I did not pick any plays for mid. Played two combinations with the 09 pair tonight. The wrong ones chosen of course. Had other plays besides the 09 pair tonight.I had chosen the 18 and 09 pair yesterday before the eve draw for plays. Just ge... [ More ]

Reply #30

SirMetro — Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:14:12 GMT

To answer the more simple question about a good bet...for me...a good bet is when I look at my list of numbers and walk out of the store with my money still in my pocket.Sir MetroKnowing what to do is the easy part...knowing when is the question.

Reply #29

four4me — Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:13:32 GMT

Yes i think there a good bets if you have the forsight to see it. A few days ago in a powertrails workout the top 3 numbers were 123 and without hesitation i thought to myself that it has been a while since this combo has been drawn. Sure enough last night 213 made it to the winners circle. now if my gut feeling had kicked in and i had put say 10/20/50 dollars on it i would be one easy street for a while. Don't ask me why i didn't play it, i played 217 because i had a feeling about it.... [ More ]

Reply #28

WIN D — Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:43:41 GMT

Say John...... This little sentence in your post up there interest me...LOL Maybe you could run that past again cause i'm a little slow on the up take ....thanks. There was the obvious for today 02/04/05I did not pick any plays for mid. Played two combinations with the 09 pair tonight. The wrong ones chosen of course. Had other plays besides the 09 pair tonight.I had chosen the 18 and 09 pair yesterday before the eve draw for plays. Just getting my brain hooked up on this new strategy before I... [ More ]

Reply #27

Blackapple — Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:30:37 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Blackapple on February 13, 2005Quote: Originally posted by Badger on February 12, 2005 I leanred this early on trying to play longest out sums in Pick 3. Yeah, sure, the longest out sum is due and it will hit.....but it could go a month or more before it does. ANd then if you do hit a winner, you have won nothing because all your winnings were already eaten-up in the previous bets.Probably too long winded a response. But I'm still answering the original questio... [ More ]

Reply #26

JAP69 — Tue, 15 Feb 2005 00:30:09 GMT

There was the obvious for today 02/04/05I did not pick any plays for mid. Played two combinations with the 09 pair tonight. The wrong ones chosen of course. Had other plays besides the 09 pair tonight.I had chosen the 18 and 09 pair yesterday before the eve draw for plays. Just getting my brain hooked up on this new strategy before I play all the combos in a pair chosen. Dry runs as you have it.If the patterns continue like this it is the best paper and pencil I have seen in the 20 years I have

Reply #25

WIN D — Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:12:40 GMT

The results........ Odd digit hit in the Middle Position as expected. It was just a good bet......Now its a great bet.. LOL Mon, Feb 14, 20053-7-2Sun, Feb 13, 20059-4-3Sat, Feb 12, 20050-0-8Fri, Feb 11, 20058-4-9Thu, Feb 10, 20054-6-7Wed, Feb 9, 20058-2-3Tue, Feb 8, 20054-2-4Mon, Feb 7, 20054-6-8Sun, Feb 6, 20059-5-9Sat, Feb 5, 20051-8-1

Reply #24

Blackapple — Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:24:20 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Badger on February 13, 2005Quote: Originally posted by Blackapple on February 13, 2005 Well how about any three digits? The games change contantly. If you had been playing the 950 for the last 1400 or so draws in the Illinois Mid Day, you would have lost 1400 or so days in a row; since that's how long that combination has been out since last drawn. (hasn't hit since 9/16/2000) If you had been betting a buck a day on it, you'd still be 900 bucks in the hole if you pl... [ More ]

Reply #23

takeitez — Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:11:16 GMT

Win-Dez

Reply #22

WIN D — Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:58:55 GMT

Here's a pretty good example of what I call a good bet This is for PA. midday only....Feb 14th. Check out the middle position ..... all even numbers....so if its 50/50 and that means 7 Heads in a row right? I will bet today using other filters as well.......but number one will be an odd number in the middle. If it loses .....fine ...probability and history say it was a damn good bet ! Here's another good bet example.....up until that 943 hit yesterday....notice that every draw up unt... [ More ]

Reply #21

Badger — Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:27:28 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Blackapple on February 13, 2005 What about the 9*-5*-0 digits maybe digits are better betsIts a 3 digit game I know. Well how about any three digits? The games change contantly. If you had been playing the 950 for the last 1400 or so draws in the Illinois Mid Day, you would have lost 1400 or so days in a row; since that's how long that combination has been out since last drawn. (hasn't hit since 9/16/2000) If you had been betting a buck a day on it, you'd still be... [ More ]

Reply #20

Badger — Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:12:30 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on February 13, 2005 I guess no one else knows what a good bet is either Badger. I already said what i believe is a good bet. It's one that wins most of the time. That could be 51% or 60% or 90% of the time. Find any situation of 50/50...... and find it having hit that way 10 times in a row...oh boy! Then..... bet it to go the other way. You will be right over 90% of the time. You may only see it once a yr. in your State's game.... but that would be a great... [ More ]

Reply #19

JAP69 — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:16:39 GMT

To look for a couple digits for the draw I will look in the number types columns. Tonight I will be looking in the stack where the xs areNumber Types: Singles 60 75.9% ______________________________________xxx_________________068 569 036 147 049 349 568 _________________159 689 045 469 256 389 678 _________________289 046 689 569 938 761 378 _________________138 138 079 079 269 145 479 _________________267 019 014 139 479 137 469 _________________057 468 046 169 267 079 049 _________________046

Reply #18

JAP69 — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:12:01 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by MADDOG10 on February 13, 2005 obvious or not john, excellent stats for comparison...!Thanks Maddog.I have found a couple for the money already.

Reply #17

WIN D — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:11:08 GMT

My ...My...John.... that's just too good. Very interesting. No one loves the game more than Jap69 ...noooo one. Do you have the 6 ways that have not hit in the last 365 evening or day John? You know...that Tier O .....that i voted for. LOL

Reply #16

JAP69 — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:09:09 GMT

What I am looking at here are the eve draws for South Carolina.I listed them box order.0 28 31.1% 036 045___________079 014 057 046 049 069 018 037___________008 057 027 045 039 047 079 015___________034 068 028 035 026 029 059 018___________047 026 034 017 1 21 23.3% 159___________155 166 138 145 014 139 188 018___________136 015 188 115 168 122 178 118___________156 134 018 017 156 2 23 25.6

Reply #15

Blackapple — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:08:33 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Badger on February 12, 2005 I leanred this early on trying to play longest out sums in Pick 3. Yeah, sure, the longest out sum is due and it will hit.....but it could go a month or more before it does. ANd then if you do hit a winner, you have won nothing because all your winnings were already eaten-up in the previous bets.Probably too long winded a response. But I'm still answering the original question, which requires anindividual perception of what a good... [ More ]

Reply #14

MADDOG10 — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:06:40 GMT

obvious or not john, excellent stats for comparison...

Reply #13

JAP69 — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:58:02 GMT

Now for better visual and interpetation of each digit and pairs in the stacks I placed them box order as drawn.A little to obvious at times. Key Numbers: 0 23 29.1% ___________068 036 049 045 046 079 079 ___________077 019 014 057 046 079 049 ___________046 069 089 018 037 013 049 ___________008 0671 19 24.1% ___________147 159 155 761 166 138 138 ___________145 019 014 139 137 188 169 ___________179 018 113 013 1362 14 17.7% ___________244 256 289 229 269 267 255 ___________233 267 247 268 268

Reply #12

JAP69 — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:51:38 GMT

What I have been looking at in the past few weeks is the cycle of the numbers. the key numbers mainly. I changed to combined draws yesterday and found the amount of stacks where they seem to return at. The pairs mainly.Look at the stacks in the key numbers here.I have started to fill the blank rows at the top of each key number.I am looking for the obvious in each key number and the stack it is obvious in when it is time for that stack to be drawn and filled in at the top of the stack.You will a... [ More ]

Reply #11

WIN D — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:19:40 GMT

I guess no one else knows what a good bet is either Badger. I already said what i believe is a good bet. It's one that wins most of the time. That could be 51% or 60% or 90% of the time. Find any situation of 50/50...... and find it having hit that way 10 times in a row...oh boy! Then..... bet it to go the other way. You will be right over 90% of the time. You may only see it once a yr. in your State's game.... but that would be a great big opportunity to me. Put that with other current in... [ More ]

Reply #10

Badger — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:33:56 GMT

I guess I'm still answering what a good bet is, WIN D. For instance, we know doubles hit about 28-30% of the time. So if a double hits, you should be able to figure a no-match combo will hit the next day. However, as you and I both know, that percentage is an average; and you can get 2, 3, 4, 5 doubles in a row; maybe more.Therefore while I would say you can play a no-match combo after the draw that a double drops on, it is still not what I personally would call a good bet . When you are fol... [ More ]

Reply #9

MADDOG10 — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:55:12 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on February 13, 2005 Sure..... you say .... when you see it ... you will know. Well.....that wasn't always true for me....or you. We had to learn. What did we learn? Looking for people to give an example or examples of what they actually think a good bet is. Trying to come up with an example .....and not being able to do it is a good thing to know about yourself. Mind farts ....LOL It might even spark an idea about playing the game and playing it harder on ce... [ More ]

Reply #8

WIN D — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:37:52 GMT

Sure..... you say .... when you see it ... you will know. Well.....that wasn't always true for me....or you. We had to learn. What did we learn? Looking for people to give an example or examples of what they actually think a good bet is. Trying to come up with an example .....and not being able to do it is a good thing to know about yourself. Mind farts ....LOL It might even spark an idea about playing the game and playing it harder on certain occations.... If you want to win in the long ru... [ More ]

Reply #7

takeitez — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:29:55 GMT

Win_D, A good bet requires a max return on a small investment. You must have 2 things going for you, patience and control of a money management system. There are 2 such plays in Lotto. When you see it you will know.ez

Reply #6

WIN D — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:06:40 GMT

Thanks Teufellj .... Liked that when you talked about being armed with lots of knowledge. Speaking of knowledge....where are the responses on this question? The more you know the more you can cut the odds.....if you stick to your strategy. What I was hoping for here were ....some good plays or some good stats to help us win. Unfortunetly.... i don't think most people know a good bet if they were to see one. They could be LUCKY....stumble into a great play......and not even know it ! Example... [ More ]

Reply #5

Teufellj — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 01:50:42 GMT

Hey there Win_D,a good bet recognizer for me anyway, is going into any gambling situation with the full knowledge of that game; how it operates; who's running the show and do I have enough capital to cover my bets. This last is not a problem in lottery plays because your money is paid upfront or thou shalt not play! Yes, I get blindsided every now and then but at least I went into the game armed with a lot of knowledge and what I had hoped would be edges on a particular game like the Pick3.Teufe... [ More ]

Reply #4

Badger — Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:40:09 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on February 12, 2005 One that wins more times than it loses. P.S. OH......Noooooo John...... Et tu Brute ?Hmmm...okay then. If it wins 51 times out of a 100, then that would fit your definition. While I may play that bet, I don't know that I would personally define it as a good bet . To me, a good bet is one that would win 7 of 10 times or so. WHat I'm saying is that the definition of good bet is relative to one's perc... [ More ]

Reply #3

WIN D — Sat, 12 Feb 2005 23:02:56 GMT

One that wins more times than it loses. P.S. OH......Noooooo John...... Et tu Brute

Reply #2

JAP69 — Sat, 12 Feb 2005 23:02:45 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on February 12, 2005 In the Pick-3 Would you recognize a really good bet ......even if you saw one? Think about it. Should you? I played a large list last night for the eve draw. Had the 806 straight in it that hit mid-day today.Did I play the eve list on todays mid. NOOOOOOO.Right in front of me and did not recognize it.Gone back to combined draws mid and eve.Mid and eve separate is bad.

Reply #1

Badger — Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:46:27 GMT

That depends on the definition of good bet .The definition is relative.

Would you know a good bet if U-C-1

WIN D — Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:36:44 GMT

In the Pick-3 Would you recognize a really good bet ......even if you saw one? Think about it. Should you