System Sellers Exposed......Please Read

Reply #14

Teorulte — Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:15:57 GMT

Okay, the power 3 thing was a Steve Player system, not a roulette system. The Martingale is dangerous enough at 1,2,4,8,16,32. A power 3 would be 1,3,9,27,81,243 etcMight be better off trying to modify an Oscar's Grind. There are stories of a few craps players NEVER losing playing this system for 10-20 years. Of course, the one loss will be huge, and it could potentially come on the first session.Best thing to do is to bet all you are willing to lose on one hand, either Pass/Don't Pass Craps,... [ More ]

Reply #13

johnph77 — Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:42:21 GMT

Teorulte -Interesting information re probability on roulette - I'll have to delve into that when I get a little more time.Incidentally, should you carry your power of 3 theory to the 37th level without previous success, the amount you would have to bet would be $450,283,905,890,997,363.....glj

Reply #12

RJOh — Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:07:12 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Teorulte on March 15, 2005 I am not really sure what you are implying here. If you mean that one has to play roulette to test a system, you are very wrong.Teorulte,I was talking about lotteries, I don't play those rip-off Internet casino games. You mentioned Steve Player systems and I thought you were talking about lottery systems which can be tested against drawing results without actually playing.RJOh

Reply #11

Teorulte — Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:27:18 GMT

Sandy K, Actually, I do not have any lotto systems. I have many baccarat,roulette,craps, etc. I should have been more clear. Sorry. I came across a posting about Steve Player so I emailed him. Turns out he does not offer refunds and he was not very pleasant to deal with. When I look at the rubbish that is being sold for games like roulette, I shudder to think of the scams being sold for the lottery. But when a game like european roulette, with la partrage or enprison has a house edge ar... [ More ]

Reply #10

Sandy K — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:39:37 GMT

Teo,You mentioned Steve Player. I think his systems are hogwash. Curious as to what you think.

Reply #9

Teorulte — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:31:32 GMT

All spins are connected. If you take two spins from a casino in Spain, take five spins from a casino in Edmonton, Alberta, ten spins from a casino in Hamburg Germany, and twenty spins from a casino in UK you will get approximately 13 numbers out of 37 that do not hit.

Reply #8

Teorulte — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:29:35 GMT

Rjoh, I am not really sure what you are implying here. If you mean that one has to play roulette to test a system, you are very wrong.http://www.spielbank-hamburg.de/spielsaal/permanenzen.php4 Real Casino Spins from Germany. With well over 1 million real spins there, you never need to test a system at the casino. For baccarat you can get something like 72 Days at the Baccarat Table by Erick St. Germain. It has about 40 000 decisions. And the people playing their systems do not affect the

Reply #7

jsk2001 — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:36:22 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on March 15, 2005 With lotteries, one doesn't have to actually play a system to test it. The results of the drawings are the same regardless of who's buying tickets or the numbers of tickets sold. The people playing or their systems don't affect the outcomes of lottery drawings. Every one should test a big money system on paper before actually spending real money. Players who don't have the patiences to test a system before using it are not thinking and probably... [ More ]

Reply #6

RJOh — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:19:06 GMT

With lotteries, one doesn't have to actually play a system to test it. The results of the drawings are the same regardless of who's buying tickets or the numbers of tickets sold. The people playing or their systems don't affect the outcomes of lottery drawings. Every one should test a big money system on paper before actually spending real money. Players who don't have the patiences to test a system before using it are not thinking and probably have a gambling problem. Thinking players neve... [ More ]

Reply #5

Teorulte — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:40:29 GMT

Todd, I am assuming you are talkikng about the lottery. I actually do not play anymore. The odds are horrible now on Canada's Revised 6/49. Sure the prizes are bigger, but it costs TWICE as much now for a ticket! So unless the jackpots get really big, then the odds are even worse than when tickets used to be one dollar. The Pick-3 interests me. It might be possible to use a neural network, or data mining to gain an edge if you fed it enough information and the drawing was unbiased. I saw... [ More ]

Reply #4

Todd — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:28:32 GMT

Teo,It sounds like you have a deep background with systems, and you've been at this for a long time. Are you an avid player? If so, what do you like to play, and do you pick your own numbers

Reply #3

Teorulte — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:27:12 GMT

My main motivation is just to save people money,while exposing the scammers on the internet. I was just sick of how conniving these sellers are. Making old rehashed systems based on the oldies like Martingale, D'Alambert, Cancellation, and Oscar's Grind, lying about how well it performs, and promising success and riches. If the cancellation didn't work 100 years ago, why would it work today? You lottery people must have it also with the systems they sell to beat the lottery. Don't you ever g... [ More ]

Reply #2

Todd — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:27:08 GMT

Whoa - looks like you have spent a lot of time and energy researching this topic. Other the the obvious satisfaction of exposing fraudsters, what is your motivation

Reply #1

Teorulte — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:17:05 GMT

Ladies and Gentlemen,I know people are hesistant to write because of the risk of spam, viruses, etc. So at least check out the link: So here is my document, among a few other things. color=#006699http://www.freewebs.com/sellersexposed/index.htmRegards,Teo

System Sellers Exposed......Please Read

Teorulte — Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:20:01 GMT

Ladies and Gentlemen, I have just finished writing a 35 page document exposing the major (casino) system sellers on the internet. I quote their claims and use evidence and proof from system buyers/testers to disprove and discredit their systems and their intentions. I also cite specific examples when they were making false claims, misleading customers, and how they try to weasel out of accusations made against them. I am absolutely sick of these scammers taking money from people while promi... [ More ]