Most important stat ??

Reply #15

takeitez — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:23:57 GMT

Reply #14

JKING — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:30:11 GMT

Almost as important as a hit ratio would be a capture ratio. How many numbers do you get consistenly right? How often over time? It's also a good indicator of systems that are on the right track.

Reply #13

CalifDude — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:21:53 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by MADDOG10 on March 21, 2005 cd, i'm not disputing what you are saying in the slightest. realistically all i'm saying is that i could'nt count on hitting 90 out of 100 and all of the 90 being straight. now to be real if you said 10 out of a 100 and they would be straight, o.k. but out of that 100 , 40 would be boxed, the amount would'nt be that much greater either way because everyone does'nt have the luxury of playing.( you know who) sure it may be 1,000.00 to 1,50... [ More ]

Reply #12

CalifDude — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:17:16 GMT

Maybe because I'm using such high numbers, people don't understand. Ok, you have Bill and Steve. They both predict pick 3 numbers. They each predict 50 numbers a day (5 days a week). They are very consistent at their hits. Bill always gets 10 correct picks a week, but they are always BOX wins. Steve always gets 5 correct picks a week, but they are always STRAIGHT wins. And, PLEASE, stop with the well nobody would get that many, etc. . This is only an example, for goodness sakes.If you lo... [ More ]

Reply #11

MADDOG10 — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:13:25 GMT

cd, i'm not disputing what you are saying in the slightest. realistically all i'm saying is that i could'nt count on hitting 90 out of 100 and all of the 90 being straight. now to be real if you said 10 out of a 100 and they would be straight, o.k. but out of that 100 , 40 would be boxed, the amount would'nt be that much greater either way because everyone does'nt have the luxury of playing.( you know who) sure it may be 1,000.00 to 1,500.00 . and it would depend on the persons style of play r... [ More ]

Reply #10

Bryan — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:05:20 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by CalifDude on March 21, 2005I can't quote Bryan's message. Bryan, you are telling me you would rather have 50 box wins than 25 straight wins? I guess I will never figure it out!!I taught numbers and numbering systems too long. I assume that everyone understands numbers and that is certainly not the case!!I will take the 25 straight wins every day over the 50 box wins. CD, you're wound to tight, I think you're over-thinking it....I was just playing...Basic... [ More ]

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CalifDude — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:40:14 GMT

I can't quote Bryan's message. Bryan, you are telling me you would rather have 50 box wins than 25 straight wins? I guess I will never figure it out!!I taught numbers and numbering systems too long. I assume that everyone understands numbers and that is certainly not the case!!I will take the 25 straight wins every day over the 50 box wins.

Reply #8

CalifDude — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:27:49 GMT

Yes, but those people that are saying they want the hit ratio would be missing the boat, fast eddie.I'm still scratching my head on that one. They want someone that has a lot of hits, rather than someone that has quality hits. I will never understand that!! But to each his own.

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fast eddie — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:20:34 GMT

CD, If someone makes 100 predictions and 90 of them hit and are STRAIGHTS. I'm going to adopt them.

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emilyg — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:16:49 GMT

hit ratio

Reply #5

Bryan — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:06:04 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by CalifDude on March 21, 2005Quote: Originally posted by MADDOG10 on March 21, 2005If you make 50 predictions and they all hit, but only box hits, and I predict 25 and they all hit, but all hit as straights, your predictions are better than mine?????? All I know, is if either of you can hit like that I will be following you all to the store to buy me some tickets and I'll be buying the combo (all ways) tickets!! There won't be any important stats then. Of cour... [ More ]

Reply #4

CalifDude — Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:49:14 GMT

MadDog,Here is a perfect example using YOUR stats:California Statistic Current Month Last Month Current Year Last Year Lifetime Pick 3Picks1,8252,7107,4858,49715,982Hits26256871139 Hit Ratio1.42%0.92%0.91%0.84%0.87%Winnings$3,540$1,000$6,670$7,410$14,080 Prize RatioWell, the prize ratio isn't showing, but this month you made 1,825 picks for California Pick 3. You had only 26 winners...so looking at just the hit ratio (1.42%) that is not someone I would want to follow. HOWEVER, the... [ More ]

Reply #3

CalifDude — Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:43:33 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by MADDOG10 on March 21, 2005 to me the hit ratio would be more important. without the hit ratio you would'nt have to worry about the prize ratio. besides in my opinion 1/2 of something is better than 0 ...I'm not talking about zero. If you make 50 predictions and they all hit, but only box hits, and I predict 25 and they all hit, but all hit as straights, your predictions are better than mine??????Sorry, I just can't figure that one out.I'll stick with the prize ratio... [ More ]

Reply #2

MADDOG10 — Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:28:37 GMT

to me the hit ratio would be more important. without the hit ratio you would'nt have to worry about the prize ratio. besides in my opinion 1/2 of something is better than 0 ...

Reply #1

CalifDude — Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:21:35 GMT

If someone makes 100 predictions and 90 of them hit and are STRAIGHTS, that is much more important than someone that predicts 100 and 95 hit and are BOXES. Therefore, the prize ratio is much more important. Todd does not try to figure out what the payout would be in that state. He has a fixed amount for straights, 3-way, 6-way, etc. That way all states are treated equally. Of course, if you bet online like most of us do, then you would get much more.

Most important stat ??

takeitez — Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:35:07 GMT

Just wondering how others view the stats. I think, hit ratio, different places pay different amounts. Thanks for your input.good luckez