Beginning pick 3 filters tutorial for all

Reply #66

LANTERN — Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:06:11 GMT

919 = 19 sum = 1 root (sum's root or standard root) and 9 Last Digit Sum's Root = LDSRSums are from 0 to 27Sum's Roots are from 0 to 9Last Digit Sum's Roots are from 0 to 9

Reply #65

empassioned1 — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:34:04 GMT

What about the sum of 19? Wouldn't that be an Add Sum (since I think the root sum is 19) of 10? Or is the rule, add down until you have a single Add Sum digit? Just curious as I'm putting some data into ExcelC.K.

Reply #64

atlasshrugged — Sun, 29 May 2005 12:26:10 GMT

Oh yes, that did help and I found it. Silly me was looking for a user named April. Oops. I agree that it does look promising as I always play my numbers boxed or combo. -Bonnie

Reply #63

dboz7 — Sun, 29 May 2005 04:27:16 GMT

he he.....the other thread was from the month of April, it is also started by LANTERN (he has shown me the light!) the way I found it was to click the resources button and found search forums, then did a search for filters hope this helps.I am looking at a variation of the Hi Low filter now, I broke it into 5 sections 0-1=Low, 2-3=LowMiddle, 4-5=Middle, 6-7=MiddleHigh, 8-9=High looks promising. Here in Wisconsin the last 2 draws have come up LHH, LHH and EEO, EEO seems a bit strange....... [ More ]

Reply #62

atlasshrugged — Sun, 29 May 2005 02:34:46 GMT

I have also found this thread very interesting. Since I am new here could someone point me in the right direction to finding this other thread by April. I will do my own searching as well. Thanks -Bonnie

Reply #61

CalifDude — Sun, 29 May 2005 01:14:19 GMT

Very smart way to play

Reply #60

lottobrain — Sat, 28 May 2005 20:57:35 GMT

CalifDude: I agree with you......trends are the way to go with the pick 3 for me too. I pick my numbers on Sunday evening based mostly on what hit the previous week looking for patterns. I play the numbers I come up with all of the next week, playing either boxed or combo for the most part. My hope is to lock onto a winner that hits within the week, so I don't try to guess the straight hit , but spend the extra money on the combo to guarantee straight money. My hope is short odds based on... [ More ]

Reply #59

CalifDude — Sat, 28 May 2005 15:55:38 GMT

Thank you, dboz7. Good Luck.

Reply #58

dboz7 — Sat, 28 May 2005 13:36:52 GMT

I found this thread and Aprils thread on filters most informative. I have printed up most of Aprils thread for reference purposes. I am going to apply the theorys here (and a few of my own) and build my own personal Pick 3 buster program....... hopefully I will be retiring soon!! (hey a guy can dream) I just wanted to especially thank LANTERN for all his effort with these threads. Also Califdude and Todd for their input. I just hope that someday I may be able to contribute something that... [ More ]

Reply #57

CARBOB — Thu, 26 May 2005 10:43:37 GMT

Fernando, Thank you for all the contributions you have made. Wish you success and good health in the future. Carbob

Reply #56

CalifDude — Wed, 25 May 2005 23:52:57 GMT

Good Bye, Lantern. Yes, the lottery is, for the most part, very unpredictable. It's those trends that we need to look for. Good luck in your other ventures.

Reply #55

LANTERN — Wed, 25 May 2005 23:10:43 GMT

Well I spent 2 years tinkering with the lottery and that is more than enough, I am leaving it alone for the most part, it's too unpredictable and it takes too much of my time, there are other things instead in which I can spend my time.I will still sometimes come to look, to see what's new and to check the P.M. Box.Good Bye.

Reply #54

CalifDude — Wed, 25 May 2005 15:02:18 GMT

We missed. That's why we slowed down with our bets...it was very predictable there for about 2 or 3 months, then it cooled off. If someone had bet our method for TN for the past month, here would be their results:Tue, May 24, 2005 9-0-6 -55.00 (-150.00)Mon, May 23, 2005 1-8-5 -55.00 (-95.00)Sun, May 22, 2005 2-3-7 -55.00 (-40.00)Sat, May 21, 2005 1-7-8 -55.00 (+15.00)Fri, May 20, 2005 5-4-3 -55.00 (+70.00)Thu, May 19, 2005 6-6-4 -55.00 (+125.00)Wed, May 18, 2005 2-4-3 * -55.00 + 150.00 = +95.0... [ More ]

Reply #53

CalifDude — Tue, 24 May 2005 20:47:10 GMT

Sandy, I am predicting most days for ALL states. I can't pick out one state and do it differently. There are 55 numbers each time. I can only post 50 on the Prediction Page. I have told you how we do it, so I don't think posting is necessary.

Reply #52

Sandy K — Tue, 24 May 2005 20:32:16 GMT

I was wondering CD....because it didn't add up....why don't you put these picks on the prediction board

Reply #51

CalifDude — Tue, 24 May 2005 20:05:14 GMT

The last draw in Tennessee was 185. That is an Even/High. We are playing Even/High tonight which is:055057059066068077079088099156158167169178189255257259266268277279288299356358367369378389455457459466468477479488499556558567569578589666668677679688699778789888899

Reply #50

CalifDude — Tue, 24 May 2005 19:57:43 GMT

No, Sandy. The numbers we play for Tennessee are based on the trend. I have explained it numberous times on this forum and you can find it in my Blog. My predictions on the Predictions Page are done using whatever my current method is! I do each state the same (more or less), I might do all the evening picks one way and the midday another way, but I don't do any one state differently. My lotto group of 9 plays Tennessee only and right now we are playing the same Odd/Even as last draw and th... [ More ]

Reply #49

Sandy K — Tue, 24 May 2005 19:49:35 GMT

okay, CD......are the numbers you post on the prediction board, the numbers you made thousands on.....because if they are I will bet them........but to make thousands on your boxed bet you would have to win almost everyday.for this month on the prediction statistics for you for Tennessee:Pick 3Picks706 Hits5 Hit Ratio0.71% Winnings$490 Prize Ratio69.41% So far this month in 24 days, you have 5 hits.......and you gotta be putting a lot of box money on it to make thousa... [ More ]

Reply #48

CalifDude — Tue, 24 May 2005 17:17:28 GMT

Sounds great! Yes, TN is special. The trend is what you need to look for! Also, see my Blog for more info.

Reply #47

LANTERN — Tue, 24 May 2005 17:15:20 GMT

CDI will try to start with Texas maybe sometime this week, TN will take a lot longer than I thought, because so far it looks as if it is very unfriendly to my methods.It repeats way too much and the last draw 185 was a very radical change from way that the combos were coming for the past 25 or more draws (I only checked the last 25 before 185) 185 was different in a few ways from the norm for TN.You want Tx I will try it sometime this week maybe.Boxed first, at least 25% possible chance of winni... [ More ]

Reply #46

CalifDude — Tue, 24 May 2005 07:00:09 GMT

Lantern, I look forward to seeing your predictions on Lottery Post. Maybe you can explain how you are using your filters when you start predicting. A good teacher shows how to use the information by example.You keep saying you won't win every draw and won't always hit a straight. I doubt there is ANYONE on here that would expect anything close to that. I don't even play straights and I don't know of anyone that wins every day (except those that post 100 numbers for every draw, every state, a... [ More ]

Reply #45

LANTERN — Tue, 24 May 2005 05:47:44 GMT

Sorry, but no, you just don't give winning numbers like that, you have to research the past winning numbers for a state before you make any prediction(s) for it, also you have to have past stastistics for that game and state and a computer program or programs to give you detailed stats on that game, you just don't jump in and try to make predictions for any games just like that, you have to have prior knowledge of the way that the winning combos come out for that particular state and you don't l... [ More ]

Reply #44

RaiDeR — Tue, 24 May 2005 05:29:04 GMT

Lantern...can u give me some numbers for 3-digit MI midday -- plzz

Reply #43

LANTERN — Tue, 24 May 2005 05:12:23 GMT

CDI am not predicting, but if I was it would be for Texas, I am more familiar with the way that the combos come out for Texas, than for TN, little old lady didn't have 185 on the Zid combos that she gave to me and I don't have statistics on winning number knowledge on Tn either, even if 185 had been on her Zid combos that she posted, the LHH filter that I used would had filtered it out, the other filters were O.K. but not that one, it should not had come out, but it did, in all the last 25 past... [ More ]

Reply #42

Shawnintennesse — Tue, 24 May 2005 03:51:56 GMT

LOL... I'm learning CD...:)Ive gotten it a few times now... I'm defiantly getting better. If i look at where i was a month ago. And where i am now.. Ive come along way with all of this...:)In someways i have done better with Kentucky.. The numbers just come for there sometimes...

Reply #41

CalifDude — Tue, 24 May 2005 03:43:17 GMT

We only play Tennessee Pick 3. Like taking candy from a baby

Reply #40

RaiDeR — Tue, 24 May 2005 03:21:19 GMT

All this info is really great...TYI usually dont bother with sums and roots...i'm still not understanding roots?i usually make a wheel of the last 3 numbers...then i go through the search drawing and figure out the ones that have alrdy hit...then pick out my cold numbers(hot numbers are usually 1,0)and then sit and wait

Reply #39

Shawnintennesse — Tue, 24 May 2005 03:08:57 GMT

55 is alot of numbers... Do you guys play them all states

Reply #38

CalifDude — Tue, 24 May 2005 02:45:37 GMT

My lotto group played, but we missed tonight. We were playing Even/Low and the draw tonight was Even/High. We are only playing $1 per ticket now because the method we were using has cooled off! We still hit about every other draw, though. We are playing 55 numbers each time.

Reply #37

Shawnintennesse — Tue, 24 May 2005 00:53:01 GMT

Cool...Did you play it tonight CD?I hope you did... I was also wrong on that... We had it straight....

Reply #36

CalifDude — Mon, 23 May 2005 23:59:53 GMT

I also had it on the Predictions Page:257, 279, 592, 158, 187, 358, 387, 819, 839

Reply #35

CalifDude — Mon, 23 May 2005 23:53:20 GMT

Lantern, which state do you predict for on Lottery Post and where? I can't find your past predictions on the Predictions Page. I assume you are predicting for Texas.

Reply #34

Shawnintennesse — Mon, 23 May 2005 23:52:18 GMT

Hi Cd,Good to see you... Littleoldlady did me up on some filters today..We had Tn 158 in Teir 1 as 185. She had it down to 27 #'s...

Reply #33

CalifDude — Mon, 23 May 2005 23:50:15 GMT

I and my 8 lotto partners on the other hand LOVE TN's past winning numbers!! We had one stretch (we were betting $3 per number at the time) where we had 21 wins out of 24 draws. So, those of you that can't win in TN can't see the forest for the trees! Filters have to be adjusted for the trends and the particular states. Not all states work the same way

Reply #32

Shawnintennesse — Mon, 23 May 2005 23:50:14 GMT

They havent been good...Just now starting to come out of it...

Reply #31

LANTERN — Mon, 23 May 2005 22:43:56 GMT

I don't know for sure, but i didn't like Tn's past winning numbers I just studied the filter patterns on the last Tn's 25 draws, they didn't look good at all.Bye.

Reply #30

Shawnintennesse — Mon, 23 May 2005 22:43:43 GMT

Well i thank you Lantern,Ive certainly learned a few new things here today...Shawn

Reply #29

LANTERN — Mon, 23 May 2005 22:38:37 GMT

Now this is what I did:I used the last draws last digit sum root and the 4th last, last digit sum root.I also used the 4th last standard root as a filter added 1 digit to the last root which was 3 and then made it into a 4 and then used the 4 as a root filter.The EOO was the Even-Odd patern of the last draw and I used it as a filter.I used the 2nd last draw's High-Low pattern as a filter.And I used 2,1,9 as line width filters also I don't remember why.And that is it.You have to study a state's p... [ More ]

Reply #28

Shawnintennesse — Mon, 23 May 2005 22:28:48 GMT

Lantern,Ive wondered myself from time to time if Tn's lotto wasnt fixed or not..I'm originally from Ohio. Ive never seen a lotto pull numbers the way this one does. It makes you wonder why it took them 15 years with a game plan. And the money to do it?Thats just confirmation to me that it probably is fixed. Ive had alot easier of a time winning Ky that Tn... Now i know why...LOL

Reply #27

LANTERN — Mon, 23 May 2005 22:20:32 GMT

Little old ladyI don't know how well or bad this might work.First I will say that the TN past winning numbers and therefore all TN winning numbers are really messed-up really bad almost as if the game was fixed or very heavely messed with.None of the filters work in the normal way, everything all the filter patterns repeat a lot and I mean a lot, I have never seen anything like this before. If it's not fixed then it is just as good as if it was.The Deflate 3 System and the original Crunch woul... [ More ]

Reply #26

CalifDude — Mon, 23 May 2005 20:02:11 GMT

Here is recent Michigan History with the Root Sum shown at the right. I have marked the repeats.Mon, May 23,Day 2005 8-6-0 5Sun, May 22,Eve 2005 9-8-9 9Sun, May 22,Day 2005 0-7-0 7Sat, May 21,Eve 2005 3-6-7 7Sat, May 21,Day 2005 0-6-8 5Fri, May 20,Eve 2005 6-7-0 4Fri, May 20,Day 2005 8-9-2 1Thu, May 19,Eve 2005 9-7-8 6Thu, May 19,Day 2005 1-6-8 6Wed, May 18,Eve 2005 5-7-6 9Wed, May 18,Day 2005 6-0-1 7Tue, May 17,Eve 2005 2-7-1 1Tue, May 17,Day 2005 6-4-1 2Mon, May 16,Eve 2005 0-8-3... [ More ]

Reply #25

LANTERN — Mon, 23 May 2005 19:41:57 GMT

I know that most people don't know this, but there is a way to also in a more limited way to make the boxed combos positional, in this way some but not all of the positional filters can be used for boxed combos, but many of my discoveries are just on papers in a box and half forgoten, I can't remember a lot of the stuff, I write the things down on paper and then in a few days store them and later maybe reinvent or remeber them or develop new ideas or put 2 ideas together into something else but... [ More ]

Reply #24

LANTERN — Mon, 23 May 2005 19:32:47 GMT

It's good to see things that happens often and also things that don't happen often those are the patterns, make random work for you.

Reply #23

Sandy K — Mon, 23 May 2005 19:26:40 GMT

I understand the law of averages CD with the roots.......But it is unusual to hit at least twice a week...very next draw the same root....this happened this month....I just started noticing it....now I am going to test back and see the frequency is the same........Oh it's great if it does it......great filter...not complaining

Reply #22

LANTERN — Mon, 23 May 2005 19:22:11 GMT

CalifDudeWith so many filters in my mind I got confused on that one, what I should had said is that I used it for boxed combos but not of itself and by itself, but together or combined with other filters as one of my simple compound filters one of several.I have developed so very many filters that is easy to get counfused with them, there are so very many variations and compound filters not to mention regular (not so regular) ones.And then about 2 or so new second generation compound filter... [ More ]

Reply #21

CalifDude — Mon, 23 May 2005 19:21:14 GMT

Sandy, remember that there are only 9 root sums (if you don't count the zero!). So in a 7-day period it would not be unusual to see one root sum repeat. Twice would be a little unusual, but certainly not unheard of for random numbers. But, if you think it happens often enough, then you can use that to your advantage (sort of) and play the same root sum for the next draw. That's about 25 numbers each time, but it might make a little money for you. Good Luck.

Reply #20

Sandy K — Mon, 23 May 2005 19:07:20 GMT

twice last week it happened...with the root sums..I think that is unusual.......every week there is at least one repeatLast week:083 =11 sum, 2 root sum evening.....641 = 11 sum, 2 root sum the next midday------------this week:168 midday = 15 sum, 6 root sum978 evening = 24 sum, 6 root sum---------------This happens at least twice a week......I thought that was very strange and I did wonder about the fix factor.

Reply #19

CalifDude — Mon, 23 May 2005 19:04:04 GMT

Lantern said:As to the higher, medium, lower filter for boxed combos, you would be very surprised if you just knew about all of my pick 3 filters, yes there is for sure such a filter for boxed combos.A positional filter for box combos? I thought I understood the Pick 3, but now I wonder. I know you have secrets and that is fine. I don't, but to each his own. If I could win all the time in California, I would have secrets because it is a pari-mutual state, but then again I play every state... [ More ]

Reply #18

LANTERN — Mon, 23 May 2005 19:03:22 GMT

Little old LadyI have been at this for a long while now, let me take a break and I will work on your Zid combos in about 2 more or so hours and I will post the stuff also.I need about 2 hours rest then about 30 or so minutes more for the workout and then I will post the workout for your numbers.O.K.

Reply #17

LANTERN — Mon, 23 May 2005 18:58:29 GMT

SandyFor the sums and roots or whatever to repeat sometimes is O.K., but is not O.K. for them to repeat all of the time and not even very often even if they are from another draw like from early to late or later to early they should yes repeat some times but not very very often or all of the time, that is not normal at all.The nature of random is that there will be repetitions sometimes, but not all of the time and not way too often, but in the end it does not matter very much at all, it's plent... [ More ]

Reply #16

Littleoldlady — Mon, 23 May 2005 18:57:52 GMT

Lantern these are all of the numbers that the system zid gave me. They are based upon TN's last 12 draws. 412 112 413 416 422 432 712 012 113 116122 132 410 414 423 426 433 436 442 452612 713 716 722 732 013 016 022 032 110114 123 126 133 136 142 152 420 424 430434 443 446 453 456 613 616 622 632 710714 723 726 733 736 742 752 010 014 023026 033 036 042 052 120 124 130 134 143146 153 156 440 450 454 610 614 623 626633 636 642 652 720 724 730 734 743 746753 756 020 024 030 034 043 046 053 056140... [ More ]

Reply #15

LANTERN — Mon, 23 May 2005 18:42:00 GMT

Little old lady for the moment give me, that is post all your Zid System numbers here somewhere later I will use them for my post, also tell me which state and which draw they are for O.K. becuase i will need to know todays or tomorrow draw and early or late draw and the state, Bye.

Reply #14

Sandy K — Mon, 23 May 2005 18:40:10 GMT

Lantern, I just wanted to thank you for this thread.I have been reading and absorbing some of this material.I have one question, though. Michigan Pick3......midday and evening...why are the sums the same for the evening as from the midday.....this happens very frequently in Michigan.........sometime it's the root sum and sometimes it that actual sum..

Reply #13

LANTERN — Mon, 23 May 2005 18:38:04 GMT

Little Old LadyYou seem to be using a sort of Crunch 1 (The original) emulator or the Crunch 2, it's 10 column sums appear to be exactly the same as the LDSR or Last Digit Sum Root.Other than that you also used roots and key numbers (Key Digits).You didn't use many combos as your source of winning numbers and you got 6 final digits one of them being a boxed version of another, the one on priority or TIER # 2 as in the Deflate 3 system.You configured the Crunch 2 in a similar way to works as alm... [ More ]

Reply #12

Littleoldlady — Mon, 23 May 2005 18:06:42 GMT

I used the zid system for a straight to get the 2nd set of numbers..(I couldn't put them all in there.

Reply #11

Littleoldlady — Mon, 23 May 2005 18:01:47 GMT

Lantern, I finally managed to do this but I still don't know if it is right or wrong..I did this for TN.Date/Time: Mon May 23 12:49:09 CDT 2005INPUT DATA:<AddList:StraightNumbers> 524, 803, 220, 945, 504, 457, 628, 627, 417, 198, 899, 705, 088, 035, 744, 991, 333, 243, 664, 543, 178, 237<AddList:StraightNumbers> 412, 413, 416, 432, 712, 012, 410, 423, 426, 436, 452, 612, 713, 716, 732, 013, 016, 032, 123, 126, 136, 142, 152, 420, 430, 453<SelectFilter:10ColumnSums> 3, 7, 0, 1<SelectFilter:Roots... [ More ]

Reply #10

LANTERN — Mon, 23 May 2005 17:56:38 GMT

Because the numbers (combos) are random and the filters have many patterns is very unlikely that all of the last winning number's patterns with show upor come back again right on the next winning draw, some might and will often, but not all of them, that is why you should be flexible and not only use the last draw as your only source of filters or filter patterns, as I told you above by study and observation you will see that often opr many times it might be even best or better to use other past... [ More ]

Reply #9

LANTERN — Mon, 23 May 2005 17:38:33 GMT

That is jumping ahead, but is O.K.That was a prior thread and post and I can't recall why I used exactly those filters like that, but in general:You will have and need a copy of so many past winning history numbers for the particular state and draw (Day or night or mixed) that you want to play next.Then you will get the sums of so many of those recent or fairly recent (maybe the last month or so worth of draws) and study the distribution of the particular sums.There are 28 sums from 0 to 27, the... [ More ]

Reply #8

CalifDude — Mon, 23 May 2005 16:45:12 GMT

I use a number of filters with all of my Pick 3 and Pick 4 picks.Back to the filter for Low/Medium/High. Since there are 6 possibilities, it only makes sense that you could filter out the same exact distribution as the last draw. The odds of it hitting again are 1:6, so eliminating the last draw would leave 5. Not a major filter, but certainly could be used for picking straights. I don't see it having a purpose when trying for box wins. I have found that most filters people use are used be... [ More ]

Reply #7

Shawnintennesse — Mon, 23 May 2005 16:28:04 GMT

I cant wait to learn...

Reply #6

LANTERN — Mon, 23 May 2005 16:23:43 GMT

CalifDudeIn general, filters are more exact and accurate for straight filtering than they are for boxed filtering, but the above with boxed filters instead of straight ones would also apply to boxed filtering. In other words there also are bad or unlikely boxed combos when using boxed filters as it is with straight combos when using their filters, I just happened to give an example with a straight filter instead, because they are more exact and accurate.-----------------------I hope that many mo... [ More ]

Reply #5

Littleoldlady — Mon, 23 May 2005 16:00:47 GMT

Why do you use these particular filters with the Crunch 2?<SubtractList:Sums> 02<SubtractList:AbbrSums> 2<SubtractList:Roots> 3<SubtractList:Pairs> 81, 13, 83, 43, 36, 46<SelectFilter:KeyNumbers> 1, 3, 4, 6, 8<SubtractList:LineWidth> 7, 3what does linewidth mean

Reply #4

CalifDude — Mon, 23 May 2005 15:55:43 GMT

OK, Lantern. I see what you mean. I didn't realize that you were talking about straights. I will be VERY interested to see how to pick straights. I have never really tried, I just play box, but straights will be fantastic!!I'm looking forward to reading about your filters to pick straights.Thank you for explaining that.

Reply #3

LANTERN — Mon, 23 May 2005 15:37:01 GMT

Filters are based on, imagination, statistics, and on randomness itself.Filters are based on what you see and on what you don't see on your observations of the history of the winning numbers.First of all you need to know the general make-up or structure of the game, then you need to attach or give to the winning numbers as many artificial and imagined characteristics as you can come up with, you will study the behavior of the past winning numbers as detailed or given in accord to those attached... [ More ]

Reply #2

CalifDude — Mon, 23 May 2005 14:57:38 GMT

Lantern wrote:Filtering is a way of getting rid of excess numbers or of bad or unlikely combinations or numbers so that when the filtering is done, maybe we will be left with only the best or more likely numbers that might contain or have among them the next winning number or combo.What are the bad or unlikely combinations

Reply #1

LANTERN — Mon, 23 May 2005 14:47:53 GMT

The pick 3 is made-up of 3 digits x x x and the pick 4 of 4 x x x x.There are 10 possible digits by pick 3 and pick 4 position: 0 to 9, 0 to 9, 0 to 9 and one more 0 to 9 for the pick 4, so pick 3, 10x10x10=1000 pick 3 (Straight) numbers or combos and the pick 4, 10x10x10x10=10,000 possible straight combos or numbers, combos means combinations.One of the uses of filters is to take a group of numbers (Combos) that you think that have or might have the winning number among or in them and to try

Beginning pick 3 filters tutorial for all

LANTERN — Mon, 23 May 2005 06:04:11 GMT

I will soon as time permits start a new pick 3 filters and Crunch 2 tutorial, because I am aware that there still are way too many people who still need help with them.I will try to start from the very beginning as much as I can, because people have a lot of trouble understanding filters and the Crunch 2.Maybe finally those who have the Crunch 2 will be able to use it, by the time that the tutorial is finished.The lottery ping pong balls are just that and nothing else, they are not numbers nor l... [ More ]