Union Jack Pick 3 Method

Reply #63

UNITEDWESTAND — Tue, 02 Aug 2005 00:39:54 GMT

can you post the updated version to download

Reply #62

paurths — Sat, 30 Jul 2005 22:26:12 GMT

Thanx, empassioned1, i've tested it quite a few times now, and it does not work well for Belgian pick 3, as is now.I've been playing around with 1.618 in the calculations and to my surprise it comes closer to being a system to really test for several weeks. (moving the numbers per combination, in all ten combinations that the system provides, get the odds up for getting an exact match.) Anyway, thanx alot,G's

Reply #61

empassioned1 — Sat, 30 Jul 2005 22:16:53 GMT

Regular and Irregular refer to the method used to calculate the tickets for the Union Jack method Using the last two draws and the base sum in a column, the center number for the first ticket and subsequent tickets is derived from a pattern of down and then across for regular (across and then down for irregular) refer to message one in this thread for a more detailed explanation C.K.empassioned1

Reply #60

paurths — Sat, 30 Jul 2005 21:36:28 GMT

Euh, perhaps it's the color of my hair, or it's my broken English, but what is meant by regular 5 , regular ... , irregular... ?(have not played pick 3 ever) By the way, i created a excel-worksheet, as like the example provided by atomic dog. Ofcourse i have no clue on how to code those other regulars and irregulars ... if there is still an excel-worksheet floating around in cyberspace, i would be happy to provide it a home on my pc...

Reply #59

thatgirl65 — Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:05:26 GMT

this system has worked for me and a lot in the past week I had 3hits and there were 5 numbers that hit out of the numbers given for pogression 2 regular . I play the michigan lottery.

Reply #58

paint1 — Sat, 30 Jul 2005 01:25:59 GMT

I agree nanook, it's not working for me either; unfortunately.

Reply #57

empassioned1 — Fri, 29 Jul 2005 20:24:23 GMT

As far as winning goes, I've not put any money down until I have finished my research. Using past draws I have a years worth of numbers and I'm examining the system three dimensionallyRather than using last 5 draws down to last 2 draws to achieve a base sum (refer to first message for calculating base sums), I use the last 7 days down to the last 2 days.I am also looking at different hits and consistency using different start of the week days. ie: rather than calculate a Saturday to following F... [ More ]

Reply #56

Atomic Dog — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:22:05 GMT

sorry ... in the middle of a huge project here at work .... for weeks. replies may be slow.reread the initial instructions.yes, find an initial week using one system and see if you get a hit. if no hit, go to the next system.it's not too difficult ......... but it does take time.

Reply #55

Nanook — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:09:16 GMT

From what I've seen the progression may not be the same for different states daily games.I haven't seen anything close to Atomic's progression here in IL. I'm still trying to figure out what the progression is here. Loocking at the history I've seen hits on multiple methods for several weeks.

Reply #54

Pinback — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:54:33 GMT

The original post with the instructions for this method doesn't specify how to start the progression at all (I'm still hoping to hear from Atomic Dog on that). There was some confusion in a discussion on the 2nd page of this thread about looking for a STRAIGHT or BOXED to start the progression, but since the original instructions don't specify I have to assume people were just guessing or giving their personal opinion.I'm going to have to wait until I hear from the guy who created this method t... [ More ]

Reply #53

paint1 — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:41:18 GMT

Pinback I understood that you use 5 regular over over until you get a STRAIGHT hit, then the progression starts.

Reply #52

LOTTOMIKE — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 00:44:19 GMT

is this method doing pretty well for everyone?thought about trying it out....

Reply #51

Pinback — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 00:41:38 GMT

Sorry, need to clarify one thing: 1) The progression starts by finding the first week that gives a boxed hit. Is that the correct way to decide where to start the progression? I have no idea. I use the 5 Regular method OVER AND OVER each week until I find the first week that gives a boxed hit. The progression doesn't start until I get a boxed hit using 5 Regular first.

Reply #50

Pinback — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 00:32:55 GMT

* INITIAL RESULTS *Using the information I have, here are the initial results of my Union Jack testing.I am making three very important assumptions here:1) The progression starts by finding the first week that gives a boxed hit. Is that the correct way to decide where to start the progression? I have no idea.2) The method is changed every week, whether there was a hit using the previous method or not. For example, even if 3 Regular doesn't hit during its week, we move on to 2 Regular... [ More ]

Reply #49

LAVERNE MALONEY — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:44:36 GMT

Hey there Pinback, I see no responses to your questions as of yet. However, try sending a private message to the Lottery Post members in this thread who already have this set up. That might be quicker.I know it can be frustrating when you are diligently trying to move ahead. I haven't gone through all of the steps.But I am finding that by doing this system long hand without excel that there is more to this system. Some people should try it that way, even though you can just plop in the data, and... [ More ]

Reply #48

Pinback — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:29:51 GMT

Another question for Atomic Dog:For the 2 Irregular progression, what number is used for the initial across (to get the middle number of the 1st pick)? The base number, or one of the previous number drawings?Thanks...

Reply #47

Pinback — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:09:20 GMT

Question for Atomic Dog (I also sent this to him in a private email... I just wanted everyone else to see the question also... and I'll post the answer here as well): I'm writing a program to run your method against the entire history of the Ohio Pick 3, but I need some clarification about the progression. What I do is get the first set of 10 numbers to play using 5 regular , then scan one week at a time until I get a winner. I then consider that the start of the progression. I then generat... [ More ]

Reply #46

LAVERNE MALONEY — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:31:14 GMT

WOW, is all that I can say. It is totally amazing John how you came up with this system. And another thing that is totally amazing is the way in which everyone came together on this project put their best foot forward. What an accomplishment!!!!! I could not bring any of the excel examples up because of the lapse of time, but if at all possible I would still like a copy. Thanks.

Reply #45

atlasshrugged — Mon, 04 Jul 2005 02:45:38 GMT

Not a problem, I hope this helps someone out. -Bonnie

Reply #44

winsumloosesum — Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:39:19 GMT

Bonnie,Thanks for your response.Totally understand now!!wsls

Reply #43

atlasshrugged — Sun, 03 Jul 2005 16:20:58 GMT

I take the first digit and reverse it. This is how that works. 0=5, 1=6, 2=7, 3=8, 4=9. All you have to do to reverse a number is add 5 to it. I do that to the 1st digit of the original set and with the two sets I have 20 numbers. Like I said I have only gone back to the first week of May in my back tracking and this has worked 7 out of 8 weeks. And yes I am done for the week. I will start again next Saturday. Cuts my losses.Problem is, I have a really bad habit of filtering out the winning comb... [ More ]

Reply #42

winsumloosesum — Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:46:55 GMT

Bonnie.I came up with the same 1st set of combinations for Progression I or 2 Regular that you didNORMAL SEQUENCE 2 REGULAR STRAIGHT/BOXED 540 897 551 415 658 894 853 568 401 355Could you explain what you did when you say you reversed your 1st number to come up with the following:040 397 051 915 158 394 353 068 901 855 Do you stop playing for the rest of the week since you won last night?Thanks,wsls

Reply #41

atlasshrugged — Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:25:13 GMT

From my conversations with Atomic, my understanding is that the progressions change from week to week rather than day to day. I would say, however, that you might want to do some back tracking and see if the system could work daily in your state. I haven't even tried it in GA because the weekly progression has worked so well. The only thing that I have added to the system which seems to work quite well here in GA is once I get my set of 10 numbers, in some of the past draws and last night too I... [ More ]

Reply #40

winsumloosesum — Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:04:49 GMT

I posted in my Blog the final condensed results from last week using the Union Jack method.The results were based on the following:1. Last drawing Friday, June 24, 20052. Drawing results (7 Days) from June 25, 2005 through July 2, 2005 using Friday June 24, 2005 as the last drawing date.I noticed the Staright and Boxed Hits in different Progressions (5 Regular, 5 Irregular, etc).I was wondering if the Progressions change from day to day instead of weekly?Any suggestions??Thanks a Bunch!!wsls

Reply #39

emilyg — Sun, 03 Jul 2005 03:50:43 GMT

you are a sweetheart

Reply #38

winsumloosesum — Sat, 02 Jul 2005 00:16:15 GMT

The following are some of the instructions for the Excel Spreadsheet.Thanks to John (Atomic Dog) for providing his system Union Jack. This is a learning experience for me to try to understand the Progression Statges and what stage Pennsylvania Evening draws are cuurently in. If anyone could provide some advice it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a bunch!! in advance.Here are a few of the instructions:I will try to briefly explain each of the Tabs in each of the worksheets. There are 4 Tab... [ More ]

Reply #37

Nanook — Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:35:19 GMT

Steve's (WSLS) version looks SWEET.How do you use it? Where do I put the drawing data?Does it go into the Pick3Eve sheet? What does all that other stuff mean

Reply #36

Nanook — Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:26:41 GMT

Basicly, I treat them like they were one event, listing the numbers in the order they were drawn.It appears that it doesn't matter if it's Sun - Sat or Mon - Sun or even Wed - Tue.I also plan on looking to see if a moving window will work too. Meaning, if you get a hit on Monday, you start the next set on Tuesday kind of thing.

Reply #35

empassioned1 — Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:30:26 GMT

Ok for anyone who wants to take a peek and see the latest progression of the Excel chart free for downloading for at least the next couple of weeks. Here's what we've got.My original excel chart for Union Jack Method called UJBSaTG.xlshttp://home.swbell.net/ca-kid/ujbsatg.xls The first revised edition by Nanook called UnionJack.xlshttp://home.swbell.net/ca-kid/unionjack.xls And the latest revision by Steve (WSLS) called Union Jack Base Sumv4.xlshttp://home.swbell.net/ca-kid/union_jack_base_sumv... [ More ]

Reply #34

empassioned1 — Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:44:39 GMT

How are the combined drawings calculated? ie: how are you adding the combined draws to get your base sum. (smacking forehead and cringing) I just realized something. I'm looking at this history here and the formula uses a Sunday through Saturday method, and I've been using a Monday-Sunday method. *shaking head pitifully* *sigh* I think I'm going back to work. Although i have to admit, I have HIT after HIT all over each week, and only the one week out of 4 months without a single hit. But my M... [ More ]

Reply #33

Nanook — Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:51:17 GMT

I had 2 skipped weeks in the IL evening drawing, according to the history. They were steps j and m.More study is needed but it appears that a skipped step is a good thing. It's closely followed by a double hit with one of those hits being a straight one. This could just be coincidental, I haven't looked at enough history to determine if it's a pattern. I've seen it on the two skips that I found so far.It also appears to not matter if you separate the midday and evening picks. A preliminary study... [ More ]

Reply #32

empassioned1 — Fri, 01 Jul 2005 05:24:52 GMT

I have to do what I call a hindsight study, as Missouri doesn't seem to follow this pattern (guess we bought our computers from Dell when everyone else bought IBM or HP or Gateway or something!)...LOLI am using base sums starting with base 7 all they way down to base 2 (this gives me 120 tickets per week--60 for Regular and 60 for Irregular). I have a lot of hits with 7 and 6 base when nothing else is hitting. I even have a week with NO hits at all. LOL I hope I don't have to go back to a 1... [ More ]

Reply #31

Atomic Dog — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:57:43 GMT

Yes Bonnie ............. you are totally correct with replies from above. YOU ROCK as usual!!!Folks .................. just to let you know, I get SUPER BUSY during the day and can hardly all of the emails that I get concerning my system. Please read all of the posts concerning my system and most of your questions can be answered.A very, very , very HUGE special thanks go out to Bonnie (Atlasshrugged) and CK (empassioned1) for all of their help with this system and in answering questions. You... [ More ]

Reply #30

Atomic Dog — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:56:09 GMT

Reply #29

atlasshrugged — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:52:54 GMT

From what I have found, they are totally separate entities. I don't play the midday draw so I have no idea whatsoever what progression it is on. I highly doubt that it is on the same progression as the evening draw. -Bonnie

Reply #28

Nanook — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:45:09 GMT

Would you treat the midday and evening drawings as separate events or combine them

Reply #27

atlasshrugged — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:42:17 GMT

No problem, I am sure that if I am wrong about that, Atomic will correct me. I am just trying to help him out since I think I do understand the system so that he is not bombarded with soooo many questions. I am not trying to take over his system. I really do think that once you find out where your state is, it does work pretty well. I have found that to be the case here in GA. And I really appreciate the work he has put into figuring this out. It couldn't have been easy. -Bonnie

Reply #26

mysticwomyn — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:36:28 GMT

Thank you atlasshrugged. mysticwomyn

Reply #25

Nanook — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:35:13 GMT

I made some changes to empassioned1's work.You only need to fill in sheet1 and everything else is figured for you on separate sheets for 5, 3 and 2 regular and iregular.I just don't have the means to make it downloadable by you all. Any suggestions

Reply #24

atlasshrugged — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:34:27 GMT

That is my understanding. -Bonnie

Reply #23

atlasshrugged — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:33:18 GMT

That is my understanding. This past week GA eve was on progression j so this week after Fridays draw, I will go to progression k. I am hoping that the system keeps working as well as it has for the past 3 weeks. -Bonnie

Reply #22

mysticwomyn — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:33:01 GMT

I think I understand it all but this...let's say I was at progression k after that would be l then I go to m which is a 5 regular and then back up to a which is also a 5 regular? mysticwomyn

Reply #21

atlasshrugged — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:27:14 GMT

Here are the results I have had (or would have had if I would stop fooling around and play my numbers already):I am going to give you the ten number set which I came up with for the last 3 weeks and the numbers which fell will be underlined. June 11: 138, 346, 937, 102, 038, 767, 201, 697, 324, 315June 18: 647, 240, 767, 847, 495, 596, 103, 586, 191, 270June 25: 258, 323, 181, 155, 216, 842, 444, 490, 032, 365 You see that each week this system gives at least one box hit. Also, Atomic is right i... [ More ]

Reply #20

mysticwomyn — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:23:51 GMT

Also after you've done progression l and continue to m which says is a 5 regular...do you repeat progression from a to m meaning you would have two 5 regulars in a row ( m a) , or after l repeat from a to l? mysticwomyn

Reply #19

atlasshrugged — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:20:42 GMT

You are close. This particular workout mostly gives you a box hits. Though from what I understand, strait hits are not unheard of. But as far as everything else you posted, you are correct. -Bonnie

Reply #18

mysticwomyn — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:01:41 GMT

Is this correct... you take prior weeks and work all progressions on that week until you find a week that gives a straight hit for the following week. Let's say three weeks ago on that weeks numbers I did all the progressions and found that progression d gave me a straight hit for the following week. The following week I would then proceed to progression e and should find at least a box hit for the week after that? mysticwomyn

Reply #17

atlasshrugged — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:55:20 GMT

I just waited until I found a week which had an exact hit. So far this system has given me hits every single week which I have used it. Problem is I am bad about not playing numbers that I come up with. I will go back and give you a break down in a moment but I must collect my information. -Bonnie

Reply #16

mysticwomyn — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:45:17 GMT

How do you know when you are at the right progression...please?mysticwomyn

Reply #15

atlasshrugged — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:38:52 GMT

It depends on what letter in the progression you are on as to what you base is going to be. It took me about two hours going through all the progressions to find out where GA is. But once you do that, it is pretty much smooth sailing from there. All I have to do now is plug in the right numbers and find out if I need to go across first or down first. If you play all of your combinations boxed like I do, this is a wonderful system. -Bonnie

Reply #14

Joliesj — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:33:51 GMT

I thought we only plug in up to the last 5 draws? I'm confused. Is each base stand for a different progression

Reply #13

empassioned1 — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:54:05 GMT

Ok for anyone who's interested, I've uploaded this Excel sheet to my website, you can download it at your leisure (I'll leave it up for two weeks).http://home.swbell.net/ca-kid/ujbscatg.xls Should be given the option to open save or cancel when you click the link. Enjoy!C.K.ps. Thanks to WSLS, Todd, and Atomic Dog...appreciated all the input and help

Reply #12

empassioned1 — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 02:42:54 GMT

Ok I have this Union Jack Calculator done for ExcelSheet One lets you key in the last 7 draws all the way down to last 2 draws which will give you your base sum (third set of numbers in start of Union Jack formula). Remember to take the last three digits in the sum...meaning drop the thousands place.The reason I wasn't able to use a mod statement in the base sum is because after dropping the thousands place, it also drops all zeros until you get a whole number to be a sum (ie: 1007 would drop t... [ More ]

Reply #11

empassioned1 — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:12:17 GMT

I am doing the Excel work now...as soon as I have the calculator finished, I'll be more than willing to share *smile*Maybe I can explain more too when I get it. I'll also include formulas for each Base Sum to use (7-2). C.K.

Reply #10

emilyg — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:09:00 GMT

i'm still on step 1 wish somebody would do excel

Reply #9

Joliesj — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:02:54 GMT

Well I thought I had it all figured out for Texas. I went all they way to the begining of the year. I started with last Friday's draw and came up with 10 picks. Well I was late getting to the store on Monday night and one of my 10 picks hit. UGH!! I had 120 and the pick 3 was 201. I can kick myself in the rear for that one. My problem is I forgot to right down what progression Texas was in. Now I think I have to start all over. Should I just start with the month of June instead of going all the... [ More ]

Reply #8

Atomic Dog — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:47:44 GMT

From the original instructions, you take the weeks last draws (if a 5 Regular week, you take the last 5 draws; if a 2 Irregular week, you take the last 2 draws) and add them together to get the BASE NUMBER. You then start adding 3 numbers together in the UNION JACK fashion (diagonal/down/diagonal/diagonal/across/diagonal for a REGULAR week and diagonal/across/diagonal/diagonal/down/diagonal for an IRREGULAR week) until you get 10 lines of numbers past your BASE NUMBER. If this web site could a... [ More ]

Reply #7

mysticwomyn — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:06:06 GMT

Atomic Dog Is this correct...that after you have established your first three picks, the base number is dropped and you continue working with the newest three-set numbers as they are configured ? Or is it always putting the latest pick under the base number along with the most two recent draws from your list and working from there to achieve each pick? Thanks in advance...mysticwomyn

Reply #6

Atomic Dog — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:10:32 GMT

THANKS CK!I appreciate the kind words. All I can say is RUN WITH IT and WIN! It sure took months of testing and back checking on various draws, over 3 years worth in 2 states, but it's seems to be good for at least 1 hit a week.Oh my ..... I wish I were an Excel guru because I would just email everyone with the tailored Excel file fitting this system. Unfortunately I'm not which even is bad for me! If anyone is interested in putting this into Excel with the proper formulas, etc send me a mes... [ More ]

Reply #5

empassioned1 — Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:35:17 GMT

Everyone go on vacation? Figured this thread would get a few more posts. Well for whatever reason, this method sure seems to have the hits contained within EVERY week thus far.Does anyone with some EXCEL experience know if you can obtain a sum and then drop the tens place digit in an equation? This would allow me to develop two equations (one for Regular and one for irregular) that I could plug in the week's base figures and obtain the numbers I'm looking for. Thanks,And thank you John(Atomic... [ More ]

Reply #4

empassioned1 — Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:31:04 GMT

Also: Do you separate midday from evening lotteries? This can make a major difference in the way the numbers come out. I've tried it using last weeks MO midday numbers...no winners, but I'll keep looking at it. C.K.

Reply #3

empassioned1 — Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:03:54 GMT

I appreciate the detailed explanation, not sure how this will factor out with the MO Pick3 but I've got some data I can experiment with. Would be neat if the Union Jack method works.Now if these 10 picks were played each day say (staight box) at a dollar, your looking at 10 bucks a day until it comes in. Based on this method (and yes I noted you said USE OTHER METHODS NOT JUST THIS ONE), how did you fare dollarwise on paper?Just curious,C.K.

Reply #2

Blackapple — Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:09:28 GMT

I hope to demystify and find corerhythm applicable to someworkouts

Reply #1

txpolo — Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:45:27 GMT

Thanks Atomic Dog

Union Jack Pick 3 Method

Atomic Dog — Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:23:03 GMT

Greetings,I wanted to post this method to get some feedback on the method and some new insights if anyone cares to share.I call this the Union Jack Pick 3 method. I'm not sure if it has been utilized before, but I have been testing it for about 4 months now and have back tested it 2 years on the Minnesota Daily 3. It would be best to use this in picking BOX combos for your Pick 3. I am posting it now because I have actually gotten to a point of perfecting its behavior.I call this method the U... [ More ]