Predestination of Numbers?

Reply #25

Rip Snorter — Mon, 04 Jul 2005 04:50:29 GMT

Looking forward to reading more of your posts/threads, sirius.Jack

Reply #24

sirius — Thu, 30 Jun 2005 02:09:41 GMT

Bonnie-I can SO relate to what you said. I fear however, that my $72 million signs make you a bit more than three times saner than I.

Reply #23

atlasshrugged — Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:40:53 GMT

Vision,You and I agree on a few things, one of which is the idea that the numbers are pre-determined. We differ however on another issue. I feel that I am meant to but that I need to do what I can by studying the numbers, looking for patterns and various other methods to determine what the winning combination might be. I posted something in my blog a while back along those very lines. I gave the example of a person whose calling was to be a doctor. Now that person will still have to spend al... [ More ]

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konane — Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:35:52 GMT

What I intend to do now is just enter my data in my notepad and software but not to keep looking for the magic number in there. Just do a visual glance of the info and let my mind do the picking.I think there is a limit on how far to keep looking to find the magic system. You're definitely onto something there ... and let it be alright if the correct numbers come to mind, equally alright if they do not because by not forcing them you're staying more to having the right ones come. Any intuiti... [ More ]

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JAP69 — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:09:19 GMT

People who play around with numbers are clouded by them if they spend a lot of time with them and it can get confusing trying to draw projections from them. ________________________________________________________________on this point here I think it is important. I have studied and tracked numbers day after day for the past few years. What I end up with as the final results is the knowledge of numbers and how they fall in patterns. The bad side is that I have continued the day to day study to f... [ More ]

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four4me — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:49:41 GMT

Yea and right here in maryland are the roots of biofeedbacks where they taught children to run electronic games with the electrical impluses of their brain.

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four4me — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:32:43 GMT

visiondude if your one quik pick wins good for you but i think this thread is about people getting the numbers to play from some other means.when i said: I await the day when a lottery jackpot winner says that they got the winning numbers while astro-plaining on some spiritual level. This wasn't in reference to the allmighty.Visiondude god doesn't want people to play the lottery he wants people to pray for his salvation and for the saved to gather as many people as they can to make disciples out... [ More ]

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Rip Snorter — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:13:15 GMT

Visiondude:We humans have stuffed our heads chock-full of things we know. A lot of them aren't true. A few sometimes are.I'm happy whenever I see a person who has faith in something, as opposed to faith in nothing. Sometimes I allow myself to wish the faith could go a confident step further and allow the person who has it not to feel the need to demand others share that particular brand of faith.Jack

Reply #17

Rip Snorter — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:48:45 GMT

Four4me:You make some good points and I'd be hard-pressed to refute them by anything I've personally observed. I just am not convinced all the returns are in. You and I have no way of knowing what others do, have done, or will manage to do in the future. Since I've been doing lottery stuff I've come across some interesting tales that can't be confirmed, but they can't be refuted. Two of them involve people studying numbers for a long period of time.One story was told to a friend of mine in Il... [ More ]

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visiondude — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:54:14 GMT

and you would be right. but what really matters is what part about this as it pertains to you? what is Gods pre-determined plan for you? does it include the lottery? obviously i cannot answer that for you because God does not come to me and tell me what he is going to do in another persons life. the only way i could affirm/reject something as to whether it be of God or not, is if it is a violation of his word (as per yours/mine/others Christian beliefs).but one thing i do know that is for

Reply #15

visiondude — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:17:29 GMT

i have. i have made my pre-jackpot claim at LP , and i would much rather do it that way (pre-jackpot) so that people will have no excuses after i did as to where it came from. which will definetively demonstrate why i am even in here (besides pre-jack preparation). i am in here to be used of God to prove that he is personal, with him using means that you can relate to. to show you that a personal relationship with him is more than attainable by you, as i am nothing special (he doesn't l... [ More ]

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four4me — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:26:09 GMT

I live in Baltimore city and there are more than a fare share of space travelers here. on many occasion i have been in tavernacklels (not tabernacles) and watched these people scream at the tv for their numbers to come up like many people do when arm chair coaching a ball game. They swear up and down that they were somehow jipped out of a win because they knew there number was going to win because the dreamt it or TM it or conjured it up on the ougi board or were astroplaining when the winning n... [ More ]

Reply #13

Rip Snorter — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:47:16 GMT

Four4me:I'm aware that's how you believe. You might well be correct. I'm not aware of anyone who's ever claimed to get lottery numbers while soul travelling, but a good many have claimed to have done it using RV. I'm not prepared to testify they're lying. But I can testify to having seen a bud of mine dowse a trifecta using a swingrod. Maybe the two are too far removed from one another to be compared.As for relationships with balls, I don't know much about that, either. I do know that the fi... [ More ]

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four4me — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:32:19 GMT

I await the day when a lottery jackpot winner says that they got the winning numbers while astro-plaining on some spiritual level. So far no one has come forward and said anything to the contrary. While all things are possible it still boils down to picking the winning number and having won the game. If i thought i could win a jackpot by standing on my head juggling tennis balls and doing loop de loopes thru hulla hoops i'd be at it right now. i know for sure every manner of contrivance is bein... [ More ]

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Rip Snorter — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:26:51 GMT

Bonnie:Odds are that most of us who believe in anything at all probably wouldn't disagree with the core of what you're sayingWe humans aren't a lot better at living life than we are at picking numbers, mostly, and if you can find some wisdom and help in that book on either score, I'd say power to you.Jack

Reply #10

Rip Snorter — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 01:24:57 GMT

Perhaps both randomness and predeterminism can coexist without contradicting each other?Sirius:That's the apex of a lot of questions. A lot depends on where you're coming from, as to how you view it. If you believe we are primarily physical beings with a thread of connection in the other realitie(s), you come down on one side of the question.Or if you believe (as I happen to) that we are fundamentally spiritual beings with a fairly tentative toehold in the physical plane, you come down on the... [ More ]

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konane — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:28:35 GMT

You may also try looking into quantum physics which gives a pretty straightforward explanation for some occurrences, where some occurrences are known to happen but not on a predictable or repeatable basis so are not firm theory. The Dancing Wu Li Masters by Gary Zukav is an overview of quantum theory and is reasonably easy to understand. There are many others out there ... all you have to do is look. Most are dry reading closely akin to eating a bowl of shredded wheat without milk, but will i... [ More ]

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sirius — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:15:03 GMT

Thanks for the replies everyone, interesting subject. I tend to think the future is constantly being modified by present circumstances, but only to a degree. I think it's a case of the further out one goes into the future, the more probabilities for different scenarios exist but the closer to the present time frame the probabilities are more narrow. Alternate realities aside, I tend to think the winning number combinations are somewhat predetermined and knowable. No doubt our conventional concep... [ More ]

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bbjbb — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:01:38 GMT

A group of 10 of us have been playing mega-millions for a year or so...we all work together and toss in $5 a week... I've seen some strange things happen over the months. One of the guys was putting on his coat one night and talking to me about the lottery, he looked at me and quickly blurted out 37 .... 37 is going to come out tonight ....so I asked whether it was the mega-ball or a regular ball but he couldn't say....well, needless to say, 37 came out that night as a regular ball. Another g... [ More ]

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emilyg — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:45:57 GMT

bonnie - you're still thinking in beta

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atlasshrugged — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:33:59 GMT

I guess I would be one of the ones who believes that the numbers are predetermined by God. I think that when you have a hunch or a feeling (and this has happened to me on a number of occasions), I think that God is possibly giving us a glimpse of himself. I'm not really sure about it and am trying to formulate my own ideas about it. I am studying the Bible now to try and get a better grasp on how things like this work. It is hard because I am not really sure where I should be going to find what... [ More ]

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Rip Snorter — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:42:44 GMT

Sirus: That gets fairly close to covering the entire spectrum of opinion on LP about this issue, although there might be someone of the opinion the numbers are totally random and that there's no such thing as a hunch.Some of us are fairly certain of the boundaries of the issues, and our views tend to be defined by other, more fundamental beliefs and belief systems about the way the universe and reality work. Others aren't sure of much.Some, who generally don't post on this part of LP, are offen... [ More ]

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four4me — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:42:05 GMT

If you have studied the number history and wrote down what you perceive are what the winning numbers are going to be then you can say you have pre determined a set of numbers that might win.If you wake up one morning without looking at any number history's and while drinking you favorite breakfast beverage decide to write down some numbers and they might win or have won then you guessed the numbers.Some winning numbers must have some connection the stars because the astrological numbers. for tod... [ More ]

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konane — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:41:34 GMT

Two theories seem to be in play surrounding your hunch. All events which we see happening sequentially are in fact happening simultaneously. So if you can suspend your belief about time you can conceivably project your mind to a future event and know it's going to happen. Directed meditation or remote viewing ought to work but it takes practice. Second theory is that everything which has ever been known and will ever be known is contained in a plane or dimension, commonly known as the Univers... [ More ]

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Rip Snorter — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:09:21 GMT

Hey, Sirius:I don't know any more about it than you do, but I'd make a fairly conservative wild guess that those numbers are coming in from a parallel universe. Maybe. Or they're counting the number of items that get sucked into the nearest black hole. Or they have something to do with crop circles. Only about half-to-3/4ths joking here.Seems clear those numbers are coming from somewhere, that they're measuring something, or a manifestation of something we aren't noticing..... or they vary w... [ More ]

Predestination of Numbers?

sirius — Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:30:14 GMT

What's your thoughts on this issue? Are the winning numbers already decided in some sense? A few years ago I bought a lotto ticket on a Sunday and just 'knew' it was a winner. On the drawing that following Wednesday, 4 of the 6 numbers did come up. So... were the winning numbers 'set' and somehow my intuition detected the match giving me the knowing that it would win? Or, less likely, did my convincing feeling help shift the as yet undrawn numbers into position? Since it was my first such intuit... [ More ]