Another New York Concept

Reply #18

Greg — Tue, 04 Oct 2005 12:57:50 GMT

October 3, 2005 PICK 10 Drawing - 4,183 Winners Share $43,268 In Prizes Winning NumbersMatchedPrizeNumber ofWinners10$500,000.0009$6,000.0028$300.0087$40.001186$10.001,0300$4.003,462 No, I like the NY game prize structure above better! They pay $4. more for 6 numbers and $2. more for zero numbers. MatchPrize10JACKPOt9$6,0008$3007$406$60$2

Reply #17

JimmySand9 — Tue, 04 Oct 2005 00:44:35 GMT

The source is mathematics. I calculated what the payout would be compared to the odds. And the answer is 9%. So much of the prize pool goes to smaller prizes, and this system would put more (but not too much more) into the jackpot. And if people see a higher, and growing, top prize, more people will play. Besides, there already is a game with big smaller prizes, Take Five.So in conclusion, the scales are tipped too far to the side of smaller prizes right now, this would help balance it out.Would... [ More ]

Reply #16

Greg — Tue, 04 Oct 2005 00:01:45 GMT

Jimmy, you write: I changed the payouts to those levels in order to facilitate the growing jackpot. Did you know only about 9% of the total sales go to the top prize under the current system. That's even less than Take Five. I'm all about carving niches here. Take Five for small prize hunters, Lotto for big prize hunters, and Pick 10 for a little balance. 1) So what if only about 9% of the total sales go to the top prize under the current system ? If that is in fact the case (and I'd like you... [ More ]

Reply #15

Chewie — Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:58:02 GMT

Jimmy: My point was, I am lucky when I get 3/6 on NY Lotto. I usually get nothing. Have never been above 3/6, even last month when they ran the wild card hit. It is gotta be masochism

Reply #14

JimmySand9 — Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:49:32 GMT

I changed the payouts to those levels in order to facilitate the growing jackpot. Did you know only about 9% of the total sales go to the top prize under the current system. That's even less than Take Five. I'm all about carving niches here. Take Five for small prize hunters, Lotto for big prize hunters, and Pick 10 for a little balance.

Reply #13

JimmySand9 — Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:44:41 GMT

He's talking about the overall payout (40%) being cheap. And that really only applies to the lower prizes, the jackpot gets as much as any other game.But I agree with Cash, the lower prizes are rediculously low. But at least you get something for 3/6. Remember Michigan Lotto? You got nothing for 3/6, and that was a 6/49.

Reply #12

Chewie — Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:18:28 GMT

Not much of a travel actually. I work about four blocks from the NY/NJ border. Lotto sales are every where I turn. Have to pass several to go to lunch. Many times I buy one QP for multiple draws.Cheapo? NY Lotto is sitting at $9M annuity this very second. What should I spend on a lotto? $1.00? $2.00? $5.00? $10.00? $20.00? I would imagine it depends on the number of tickets it takes to win the lotto. Humm, yeah, only one ticket required. Buying more than one would make the rest an investment to... [ More ]

Reply #11

CASH Only — Mon, 03 Oct 2005 16:00:30 GMT

chewie:You travel to play EVERY drawing of NY Cheapo? No wonder you don't win.

Reply #10

Greg — Mon, 03 Oct 2005 02:30:38 GMT

Jimmy, in general I like your creativity, but you do us all a disservice by LOWERING the amounts paid in the NY Keno Pick 10 game. They currently pay $6,000 for 9/10 numbers; your paltry $2500. (and other lowered tiered prize amounts) is an insult to the intelligence of the players! Please stop trying to stroke the powers that be who formulate these games and determine prize amounts. I'm VERY satisified with the current NY Keno prize structure and you should be too. Don't mess with something... [ More ]

Reply #9

JimmySand9 — Mon, 03 Oct 2005 02:20:54 GMT

Don't tell that to Cash.Yeah, I've that same kind of luck with Mega Millions. And my dad had that problem with Florida Lotto (I wasn't old enough at the time), but he's a jinx so that has a lot to do with it. We all have our games we just can't hit.

Reply #8

Chewie — Mon, 03 Oct 2005 02:09:44 GMT

Great game - New York Lotto. Have bought a QP for each draw for three years steady. Have never hit more than three numbers, and only around six or seven times during that time line. Its like it knows what numbers I have

Reply #7

JimmySand9 — Mon, 03 Oct 2005 00:28:34 GMT

Cash: You think Take 5 should rollover, so how would you feel about this?Just an FYI, this is based on a 3 plays per $1 price point.

Reply #6

CASH Only — Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:31:40 GMT

jimmy:Take Five should roll over. An 18-year-old (long NY's drinking age; I bought a beer at 18) can buy liquor in Quebec province.

Reply #5

JimmySand9 — Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:45:52 GMT

It's all about the odds. Your odds of matching 0 numbers is about 1 in 21. Compare that with the odds of matching 5 numbers, that's about 1 in 19. Close, but still shorter odds. And they simply decided to reward the prize levels with the highest odds, as opposed to the most numbers.

Reply #4

Chewie — Sun, 02 Oct 2005 12:29:16 GMT

I never really understand the NYL. In Pick 10, you show 4,182 winners of $3.00 for zero Winning Numbers Matched.I get three dollars just for playing, without matching any number? Yet, if I match eight out ten, I only get $100.00

Reply #3

JimmySand9 — Sun, 02 Oct 2005 05:19:40 GMT

On second thought, maybe Take Five should rollover. Just don't let people know it or we would have something like 15 top prize winners because so many would be playing. Here's a sample payout page.And a Pick 10 payout page.

Reply #2

JimmySand9 — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 05:28:06 GMT

If the latest Pick 10 winner had played my version, he would have won $1,125,000 (judging by avg. roll and the streak between winners).

Reply #1

JimmySand9 — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 04:06:32 GMT

I meant 6 out of 59 in Super Lotto, sorry. I wish I could just edit my posts at any time.

Another New York Concept

JimmySand9 — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 02:34:31 GMT

Better Odds Than Ever!Pick 5 out of 35Still just $1. Avg. Prize Avg. Rolldown Prize Odds Match 5 $30,000 N/A 1 : 324,632 Match 4 $300 $500 1 : 2,164 Match 3 $17 $17 1 : 74 Match 2 Free Ticket Free Ticket 1 : 8 Overall Odds : 1 in 7Super Prizes. Super Value. Super Game.Pick 5 of 59Now get 3 plays for $1!Minimum Jackpot : $2,000,000 Annuity Avg. Prize Odds per $1 Match 6 JACKPOT 1 : 15,019,158 Match 5+B $124,000 1 : 2,503,193 Match 5 $1,800 1 : 48,138 Match 4 $28 1 : 755 Match 3 $2 1 : 34 Overa... [ More ]