Are overdue root sums a good strategy?

Reply #27

cps10 — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:00:30 GMT

You're welcome...that's probably one of the more complicated ones.

Reply #26

Sherwin — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:44:08 GMT

Got it!Thank you

Reply #25

cps10 — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:41:57 GMT

Sherwin,8 + 8 + 3 = 19 = 1 + 9 = 10 = 1 + 0 = 1 Root sum = 1

Reply #24

Sherwin — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:35:59 GMT

What is the root sum of 883? 883=19=??It's not listed in the chart I'm using.Confused. Thanks in advance

Reply #23

Raven62 — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:42:38 GMT

I believe so.

Reply #22

cps10 — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:30:20 GMT

Raven, So this would apply to the pick 4 game as well

Reply #21

Raven62 — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:25:36 GMT

No, That's the corrected one. All the errors from previous charts were fixed and the sums verified.

Reply #20

Sherwin — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:18:43 GMT

Raven,I have the one you posted on Nov. 28th. (Updated SUM Chart (Boxed))Is that the one with errors

Reply #19

Raven62 — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:15:43 GMT

Did you get the Update Pick-4 Sum Chart or the one that has errors in it

Reply #18

cps10 — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:08:20 GMT

UPDATED ADDITIONAL INFO Here is some additional info:Root Sum 0 involves 1 triple comboRoot Sums 1, 2, 4, 5, 7 8 involve 13 singles and 11 doubles eachRoot Sums 3, 6 9 involve 14 singles, 8 doubles and 3 triples each

Reply #17

cps10 — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:06:19 GMT

UPDATED ODDS...I missed 10 combos for the 1 1. Root sum 0 on average should draw 1 in every 1,000 drawings, based on boxed combos. (1 possible combination)2. Root sum 1 on average should draw 1 in every 10 drawings, based on boxed combos (24 possible combinations)3. Root sum 2 on average should draw 1 in every 10 drawings, based on boxed combos (24 possible combinations)4. Root sum 3 on average should draw 1 in every 9 drawings, based on boxed combos (25 possible combinations)5. Root sum 4 on a... [ More ]

Reply #16

cps10 — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:02:40 GMT

lottaloot - yeah, well I guess you would be right...that one is actually 1 every 1,000 draws, isn't it? I think realistically, you would have to take the triples out completely and average based on singles and doubles only (only 210 combinations)?Fortunately, my progression doesn't rely on my bad math above, which is a good thing

Reply #15

lottaloot — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:53:24 GMT

1. Root sum 0 on average should draw 1 in every 20 drawings, based on boxed combos. (1 possible combination) I can agree with all the average root sum draw statements except this one. I don't see this one happening too often.

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cps10 — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:32:20 GMT

tntea - are you able to predict number for all states using that tool? And if so, how many combinations are generally played per draw? I think you guys are definitely onto something.

Reply #13

tntea — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:06:38 GMT

The root/sum filter on the deflation tool is what I like best..got several hits using it...

Reply #12

tntea — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:05:39 GMT

Bingo..

Reply #11

cps10 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:54:24 GMT

Sherwin - agreed, as I am sure BA agrees too. I think these are two very powerful components to making some money in P3 and P4. I have backtested 8 states already today on my theory of overdue root sums with progressive wagering. Passing with flying colors with very little cash outlay.Once I have popped in all of the states, we can evaluate. Because at some point there will be a very overdue RS somewhere in the U.S. for each drawing period every day. I would suppose.Could be lucrative. Any sugge... [ More ]

Reply #10

Sherwin — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:37:29 GMT

Thanks dman!!!You know what? I really believe that if you use the vtracs and root sums together, you can figure out the best plays for your state(s).Stick with them for a few draws and see what happens. And you don't have to play them all. Pick a favorite combo if you want.

Reply #9

tntea — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:32:35 GMT

thanks.. it printed well

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dman2005 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:21:59 GMT

I apologize..this doesn't paste in very well....but copy this..and save it to a notepad SUM BOXED TOTALTOTAL COMBINATIONS COMBINATIONS00: 000....................................................................101: 001..........................................................102: 002 011......................................................203: 003 012 111..................................................304: 004 013 022... [ More ]

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tntea — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:18:46 GMT

post it my friend if you can find it..

Reply #6

dman2005 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:17:54 GMT

I have a chart..I got it from another post..long ago...I can't remember who the author was...So, I can not give them proper credit..I added some to it too...

Reply #5

Sherwin — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:13:15 GMT

I came across the Root Sum Chart for Pick 4 last night. I tried to search for the Pick 3 Root Sum Chart. You know how that goes. I actually fell asleep at my computer last night trying to find that chart. I'm glad someone brought this topic up.

Reply #4

tntea — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:57:23 GMT

that is great info.. is there a chart made just for that info

Reply #3

Blackapple — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:24:15 GMT

Good stuff.Works for Pick4Once you get your prime3 digits in Pick4 you justmake up the difference

Reply #2

cps10 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:20:48 GMT

Interesting. I will follow that as well.BA - would you say this is a good idea for Pick 4 as well?Here is some additional info:Root Sum 0 involves 1 triple comboRoot Sum 1 involves 8 singles and 6 doublesRoot Sums 2, 4, 5, 7 8 involve 13 singles and 11 doubles eachRoot Sums 3, 6 9 involve 14 singles, 8 doubles and 3 triples each

Reply #1

Blackapple — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:14:19 GMT

I have noticedRoot sums 1,8,9 huddleWinsum done a root sum studylong ago.

Are overdue root sums a good strategy?

cps10 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:09:42 GMT

I was just checking out some good info on the box combos for root sums and found the following:1. Root sum 0 on average should draw 1 in every 20 drawings, based on boxed combos. (1 possible combination)2. Root sum 1 on average should draw 1 in every 16 drawings, based on boxed combos (14 possible combinations)3. Root sum 2 on average should draw 1 in every 10 drawings, based on boxed combos (24 possible combinations)4. Root sum 3 on average should draw 1 in every 9 drawings, based on boxed comb... [ More ]