Pick 4 - 100 numbers method

Reply #31

Best Picks — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:27:50 GMT

Not using paurth's h/c but I will, just eyeballing some dates.

Reply #30

CalifDude — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:19:31 GMT

I think I was doing the math wrong, or at least misunderstanding what Steve was saying. I thought he said you have to win 1 out of 3 to break even. But then he said that you could play 7 times in a row and win on the 7th and break even. I think it is the later. So, maybe it will work, but you are still only going to see doubles about 40% of the time and you need a good method of picking the numbers and their order to get the hit. I am still very skeptical, but I wanted to correct what I had... [ More ]

Reply #29

kayee — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:18:14 GMT

4637819025 didn't work either. But I know we'll find something! Are you using paurth's hot/cold program? It's really helping me with this.

Reply #28

Best Picks — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:53:11 GMT

Thank you kayee. those were p4 numbers from 6/1 6/2 ranked by most hit, then put in ascending order by 1st 5, then last 5. maybe should have left them as 4637819025 I'll see how that works. I'll try your way of inputting p3 numbers as well.

Reply #27

kayee — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:20:00 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Best Picks on June 17, 2006 Thank u, i'm at work now and i have to put my ideas on hold until 11.30. could u do me a favor. in the doubles program would u enter these 3467801259 and tell me if 9109 or 5737 would be a winner. trying to see if something will work for MO.

I tested those numbers for you Best Picks and they didn't come up, however I got both numbers with 9326547108 which is low to high using the last four pick 3 draws and reversing the last cold and top... [ More ]

Reply #26

Best Picks — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:02:04 GMT

Thank u, i'm at work now and i have to put my ideas on hold until 11.30. could u do me a favor. in the doubles program would u enter these 3467801259 and tell me if 9109 or 5737 would be a winner. trying to see if something will work for MO.

Reply #25

sfilippo — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:54:41 GMT

Yes, I can get that one up as well...

Reply #24

Best Picks — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:29:12 GMT

Thank u for ZDM, i know u said u also created a singles program. Could u make that one available too, I think if you know a certain state has had alot of doubles and u feel a single is next then u could use the singles program and not the ZDM( and vice versa). I would appreciate it.

Reply #23

CalifDude — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:40:06 GMT

Here are the counts for doubles for the Pick 4 Evening draws for the past year:

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CT 43.3%

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DE 41.6%

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FL 43.8%

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GA 40.3%

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IL 41.6%

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IN 44.1%

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I am not going any further. It is obvious that you are going to lose about 60% of the time not even considering if the doubles came from the correct set of 5, etc.

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As Steve points out, you need to win at least 40% of the time to break even. I don't think it will work over the long haul.

Reply #22

Best Picks — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:32:27 GMT

thank you

i like the name, lol

now lets work, i did a quick atb test for two days and the top 3 wheeled numbers produced a winner somewhere.

Reply #21

teacake58 — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:11:33 GMT

thanks i got now to back test

Reply #20

lotterybraker — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:07:44 GMT

Steve..I cant get it to open....maybe I am doing something wrong..lol

Reply #19

tntea — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:03:15 GMT

Thanks Steve..

I am downloading it now...

What/how do I use it

Reply #18

CalifDude — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 17:59:14 GMT

Do a search. There is a thread for how to determine when doubles will hit in Pick 3. It is very accurate.

Reply #17

CalifDude — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 17:57:13 GMT

From what I have read, this is the China Method for Pick 4

Reply #16

sfilippo — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 17:54:08 GMT

The program is now avaliable... see my link for the website and the link there.

ZEN's Doubles Magic

Reply #15

Zoozie — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 17:08:13 GMT

How about SEDDOUBLE Program?

Steve's Emma Duke Double

Looking forward to this new program, Steve... love your creativity!

Thanks for contributing...

Reply #14

lotterybraker — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:53:45 GMT

all I can tell you about doubles is to search your own individual state and run the sequence

00,11,22,33,44,55,66,77,88,99..to me position doesnt matter because it is only 3 combinations..Check the time on your state or the state(s) that you will be playing and try to get an average time of how long it takes to complete the 00-99 double sequence..so..for example if it takes 30 days for instance for each double to show any in position well now you have an idea..if it is on day 24 or so and 2 d... [ More ]

Reply #13

sfilippo — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:50:17 GMT

I've got to convince you that pick 4 is where it's at!

A pick 3 payout for a double is $75.00

I'd have to play 50 doubles for $12.50 box and get a net return of $62.50

With pick 4 doubles, you play 100 doubles for $25.00 box and get a net return of $162.50!!!

By far, the pick 4 is best...

Reply #12

SMB1988 — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:30:03 GMT

How about Wheel the P4 Doubles .

Hey Sflippo, can you do the same program for Pick 3. Many doubles fall each day in the evening. Almost 1/3 of the states have doubles daily.This would be better than spending $22.50 per state for a Pick 3 double to fall.

Is there anyone out here in LP land that know's how to predict whether a double will fall on the next draw for Pick 3 or Pick 4 game? If so please inform us all.

Thanks,

SMB

Reply #11

lotterybraker — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:29:00 GMT

Heh Steve..I will even jump on this one..I like the doubles better than the singles..nice work..cant wait to try it out..might even use it for dash cash this next week..lol..I might pass up my pic 3 game for a little while to see how it works..lol

oh I really like Zens Double Trouble..lol..has a nice ring and it just may be that for the pic 4 games..TROUBLE..LOL

Reply #10

teacake58 — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:23:45 GMT

can't wait

Reply #9

Best Picks — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:11:04 GMT

I like the double idea also. When MO likes doubles, MO like$$$$ doubles. How about the name ZDM Zen's Doubles Magic I look forward to downloading/using.

Reply #8

sfilippo — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:46:55 GMT

Maybe ZEN's Doubles

Reply #7

sfilippo — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:41:01 GMT

You're welcome, tntea.

I should have the new program ready for release later today.

Just need a name for it.

How about ZEN Magic ?

Double Trouble?

Sparkles? <<< my cat

Reply #6

tntea — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:37:57 GMT

Thanks..

Reply #5

sfilippo — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:37:27 GMT

I think this doubles idea of ZEN's is exactly twice as powerful as what I have come up with in the singles.

Just think about it...

You play only doubles for a payout of $187.50.

You pay $25.00 per game and have 7 chances for a double to come up in the draw AND for you to have the 10 digits separated correctly!

This is truely the best odds I've seen for the pick 4 game.

No doubt about it! This is a winning system!

Time to name this system (Just the doubles system here. I'm not g... [ More ]

Reply #4

sfilippo — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:29:01 GMT

Okay, I've outlined the program for doubles.

Here's the rules for that...

Rule #1. A doubles must be the winning draw.

Rule #2. The double number cannot be include with any of the other two digits within the first (or last) five digits of the numbers typed into the textbox.

Example: 01234 - 56789; if the winning draw is 0690 you win the double box - guaranteed.

Because the double zero is by itself in the first five numbers you typed into the text box.

8248 is a winner as well,... [ More ]

Reply #3

tntea — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:12:00 GMT

This sounds very interesting..

Looking forward to trying out your new program.

thanks..

Reply #2

sfilippo — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:11:05 GMT

I'll work on it, ZEN.

Stay tuned...

Reply #1

ZEN — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:07:56 GMT

Steve,

this is great!! Thak you for your input. However, in IL, I notice we get more double digits, its more like 65-70%. Do you have any wheeling or other methods for this??

ZEN

Pick 4 - 100 numbers method

sfilippo — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 14:48:47 GMT

Here's an idea that came to me a couple days ago...

Take the frequency hit chart here at LP and change it to display high to low.

The default display orders the digits from 0 to 9, but clicking on Times Drawn will reorder the list by frequency from highest hit number first to the lowest hit number last.

Now, if you can predict that 2 of the next draw's digits will show up within the 1st and 5th positions, AND that pick will be a singles pick (no digits the same) then you will win a bo... [ More ]