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# Pick 4 - 100 numbers method

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Here's an idea that came to me a couple days ago...

Take the frequency hit chart here at LP and change it to display high to low.

The default display orders the digits from 0 to 9, but clicking on "Times Drawn" will reorder the list by frequency from highest hit number first to the lowest hit number last.

Now, if you can predict that 2 of the next draw's digits will show up within the 1st and 5th positions, AND that pick will be a singles pick (no digits the same) then you will win a box hit - guaranteed!

So, 2 digits have to show up somewhere within the top 5 and the other 2, of course will show up within the bottom 5. (once the frequency list is reordered from it's default view to the hi-to-lo view.

The way to cover all combinations once the above criteria is met, is to wheel half the digits, 2 at a time, into the other half of the digits, 2 at a time, which will result in 100 picks.

Let's say the hi-to-lo frequency list looks like this...

3-7-0-2-4-1-8-5-9-6 and the draw was 7-9-8-3.

As you can see, 2 of the numbers in the draw are found in the top 5 of the list and 2 of the numbers are found in bottom 5 of the list. This would be a box hit using the wheel to wheel 37024 into 18596 producing all possible 4 digit numbers.

As long as two rules are met, the box hit is guaranteed.

Rule #1. "No digits can be the same in the drawing"

Rule #2. "Exactly two of the drawn digits must show up in the top five of the frequency list"

I have written a wheeling program to generate these 100 picks instantly, and you can type the 10 digits into the input textbox in any order you wish.

The program takes the first 5 digits you type into it and wheels them into the last 5 digits you type into it. So it's up to you how you separate the 10 digits and type them in.

If you can successfully cull tomorrow's hot digits from the cold ones and tomorrow's draw is a singles draw, you win.

Here's the math...

It costs \$25.00 to play 100 numbers boxed only.

It pays \$93.75 to win a singles boxed only.

You have 'almost' 4 chances to make a profit, because if you lose on the first 3 draws, you are out \$75.00, but if you win on the 4th try, you will recoop \$93.75 of your \$100.00

The odds of singles being drawn is about 50%, right?

So, over time, half of your bets are 'in the game' AND IF you have the numbers separated correctly, (any 2 of the 4 drawn are on the high side of the wheel and the remaining 2 are on the low side of the wheel) then you get the win.

Has anyone already come up with this method, and do they use it now?

Steve

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 Posted: June 17, 2006, 11:07 am - IP Logged

Steve,

this is great!! Thak you for your input. However, in IL, I notice we get more double digits, its more like 65-70%. Do you have any wheeling or other methods for this??

ZEN

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 Posted: June 17, 2006, 11:11 am - IP Logged

I'll work on it, ZEN.

Stay tuned...

Steve

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 Posted: June 17, 2006, 11:12 am - IP Logged

This sounds very interesting..

Looking forward to trying out your new program.

thanks..

OLD/Vtrac

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 Posted: June 17, 2006, 11:29 am - IP Logged

Okay, I've outlined the program for doubles.

Here's the rules for that...

Rule #1. A doubles must be the winning draw.

Rule #2. The double number cannot be include with any of the other two digits within the first (or last) five digits of the numbers typed into the textbox.

Example: 01234 - 56789; if the winning draw is 0690 you win the double box - guaranteed.

Because the double zero is by itself in the first five numbers you typed into the text box.

8248 is a winner as well, because the double 8 is by itself in the bottom group (56789)

As long as the double is separated from the other two digits, you have the double box win. \$187.50

Other winners in the example above... 1156, 2278, 4497, 3385, 9902, 8817, 6643, ect... There would be 100 picks to play each drawing. All of them would be doubles without any repeats.

I'll go ahead and get this program going... Should be done this afternoon.

Steve

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 Posted: June 17, 2006, 11:37 am - IP Logged

I think this doubles idea of ZEN's is exactly twice as powerful as what I have come up with in the singles.

Just think about it...

You play only doubles for a payout of \$187.50.

You pay \$25.00 per game and have 7 chances for a double to come up in the draw AND for you to have the 10 digits separated correctly!

This is truely the best odds I've seen for the pick 4 game.

No doubt about it! This is a winning system!

Time to name this system (Just the doubles system here. I'm not going to persue the singles method any longer at this point.

Who's got a name for this system?

ZEN? tntea?

Steve

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Thanks..

OLD/Vtrac

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 Posted: June 17, 2006, 11:41 am - IP Logged

You're welcome, tntea.

I should have the new program ready for release later today.

Just need a name for it.

How about "ZEN Magic"?

"Double Trouble?"

"Sparkles?" <<< my cat

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Steve

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 Posted: June 17, 2006, 11:46 am - IP Logged

Maybe "ZEN's Doubles"

Steve

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 Posted: June 17, 2006, 12:11 pm - IP Logged

I like the double idea also. When MO likes doubles, MO like\$\$\$\$ doubles.  How about the name ZDM "Zen's Doubles Magic"  I look forward to downloading/using.

Numbers.

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 Posted: June 17, 2006, 12:23 pm - IP Logged

can't wait

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 Posted: June 17, 2006, 12:29 pm - IP Logged

Heh Steve..I will even jump on this one..I like the doubles better than the singles..nice work..cant wait to try it out..might even use it for dash cash this next week..lol..I might pass up my pic 3 game for a little while to see how it works..lol

oh I really like Zens Double Trouble..lol..has a nice ring and it just may be that for the pic 4 games..TROUBLE..LOL

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 Posted: June 17, 2006, 12:30 pm - IP Logged

How about " Wheel the P4 Doubles ".

Hey Sflippo, can you do the same program for Pick 3.  Many doubles fall each day in the evening. Almost 1/3 of the states have doubles daily.This would be better than spending \$22.50 per state for a Pick 3 double to fall.

Is there anyone out here in LP land that know's how to predict whether a double will fall on the next draw for Pick 3 or Pick 4 game?  If so please inform us all.

Thanks,

SMB

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How about " Wheel the P4 Doubles ".

Hey Sflippo, can you do the same program for Pick 3.  Many doubles fall each day in the evening. Almost 1/3 of the states have doubles daily.This would be better than spending \$22.50 per state for a Pick 3 double to fall.

Is there anyone out here in LP land that know's how to predict whether a double will fall on the next draw for Pick 3 or Pick 4 game?  If so please inform us all.

Thanks,

SMB

I've got to convince you that pick 4 is where it's at!

A pick 3 payout for a double is \$75.00

I'd have to play 50 doubles for \$12.50 box and get a net return of \$62.50

With pick 4 doubles, you play 100 doubles for \$25.00 box and get a net return of \$162.50!!!

By far, the pick 4 is best...

Steve

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 Posted: June 17, 2006, 12:53 pm - IP Logged

all I can tell you about doubles is to search your own individual state and run the sequence

00,11,22,33,44,55,66,77,88,99..to me position doesnt matter because it is only 3 combinations..Check the time on your state or the state(s) that you will be playing and try to get an average time of how long it takes to complete the 00-99 double sequence..so..for example if it takes 30 days for instance for each double to show any in position well now you have an idea..if it is on day 24 or so and 2 doubles havent shown yet..those are the 2 you should be looking for..

REMEMBER..00-99 IS THE SAME SEQUENCE AS 0-9 IT HAS TO COMPLETE AND IT WILL COMPLETE THAT SEQUENCE OVER AND OVER AND OVER as long as there is a pic 3 and pic 4 game..

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