Why It Is Important to Remain Anonymous.

Reply #38

lucky146 — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:50:44 GMT

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Reply #37

dvdiva — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:40:41 GMT

Eventually all lotteries will have to allow some degree of anonymity. It's only a matter of time before a lottery that refuses to hide the identity of a winner will get sued by the winner after a kidnapping and or murder.

States that refuse to protect the identities of large lottery winners could easily be held liable if the winner gives them a certified letter stating pre-existing dangers. Kind of like winning the lottery twice but the ticket bares a far higher price.

Lotteries could giv... [ More ]

Reply #36

rundown99 — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:11:25 GMT

Thanks for your reply nclottoplayer

I spent years reading stories of lottery winners, and I believe that anonymity is the way to go, not only for financial security but also for the protection and privacy of the winner.

Reply #35

lucky146 — Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:36:32 GMT

Hi nc,

If you really did win, congratulations - and sorry about your rough time. It seems like winning a jackpot is tougher than anyone would like to think. I remember reading an article about jackpot winners a while ago - someone took a poll and found that those who won were "less happy" than the losers.

If I did win now, I'd like to think I'd be more prepared to handle it than a few years ago (keep it on the DL!!!!!) in part because of what i've read here on LP.

good luck.... [ More ]

Reply #34

nclottoplayer — Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:03:54 GMT

you are indeed my correct my friend. take it from someone who knows first hand. i did win a substantial jackpot 6 years ago.. at the time of my win, i was young, naive, and like many, thought it was the greatest thing to be featured in front of the cameras, doing news conferences. etc. in hindsite, i wish i had tried to remain a bit more inconspicuous. i lost about all my supposed friends, lost relationships with just about all my family, as they were all there with there hands out....waiting...... [ More ]

Reply #33

psykomo — Wed, 19 Jul 2006 02:23:04 GMT

Rundown99::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Just read a few post here can't understand people.... would like to run

and play HIDE SINK ........................................... If they had MONEY???

First of all, if PSYKOMO hit a mega jackpot of a few million after taxes.......

I would buy a yatch and anyone would be able to find me and my sales

girls at the ........................................................................... [ More ]

Reply #32

mangeydog — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:10:59 GMT

Okay. How about this question. What if in Iowa(where I live) you bought a ticket very far from your hometown(which I have) and you just happen to have a very common name(which I do)? Just saying, if your name was, for example, Mike Jones, as long as they didn't post your address couldn't you remain relatively anonymous? And what if you legally changed your name before claiming the jackpot? I have posted a question to the Powerball press officer yesterday, but haven't gotten a response. What do t... [ More ]

Reply #31

guesser — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:39:53 GMT

I wouldn't leave town, I'd just move to a motel for a few days, have a friend check me in with his credit card so the desk clerks don't see my name, etc.

I don't know if ticket sale agreements really work, I was wondering that myself, such as if you won the jackpot but were in the middle of a divorce and didn't want to give her half. Problem is, if word EVER got out, she'd get half. I would imagine when she sees her ex in a million dollar house, driving a Lamborghini, and not working... [ More ]

Reply #30

rundown99 — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:25:08 GMT

Most states don't even allow anonymity, but regardless of where I was at, if I ever won the lottery, I would change my phone number and leave town.

Reply #29

rundown99 — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 18:34:53 GMT

That's why most states release the names of the winner, so that the people will trust the lottery. State lotteries fear that if they don't have the public trust, that the people will not play and it will hurt sales. Remember, the lottery is a BUSINESS. But, the real question is, do states that allow anonymity generate more money in sales compared to states with comparable populations that do not grant anonymity? Furthermore, are people willing to travel to the anonymous states in an attempt... [ More ]

Reply #28

Rip Snorter — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:30:16 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by guesser on June 28, 2006 I was curious about why most states (all but 3) have to disclose names, and the main reason is, what if someone 'anonymous' won the lottery, and it was the CEO of the MUSL ? Or some other 'inside' employee ??

EVERYONE would scream 'inside job - inside job' !!!

And for that reason, it cannot be anonymous (however strangely except in 3 states).

If I won it, all of my phones would be disconnected, and I would get those dispo... [ More ]

Reply #27

MillionsWanted — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:27:19 GMT

Thankfully in my country together with most european countries it is possible to remain anonymous when winning first prizes in lotteries.

Not that I expect to win soon... (but it might happen

Reply #26

guesser — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:28:14 GMT

I was curious about why most states (all but 3) have to disclose names, and the main reason is, what if someone 'anonymous' won the lottery, and it was the CEO of the MUSL ? Or some other 'inside' employee ??

EVERYONE would scream 'inside job - inside job' !!!

And for that reason, it cannot be anonymous (however strangely except in 3 states).

If I won it, all of my phones would be disconnected, and I would get those disposable cell phones with pre-loaded minutes.

Incomin... [ More ]

Reply #25

rdc137 — Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:04:08 GMT

Inevitably, even in a state like Delaware that does not release names, SOMEONE will eventually find out somehow.

Reply #24

rf21 — Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:35:20 GMT

Yeah, I agree with CalifDude... checking with state would be first thing to do. I know certain state allows winner to remain anonymous, but most of states require your Name to be on public.

I have heard of certain state allows blind trust like so many winners in Ohio as loophole, but again, most states (like Calif, Nevada or Arizona) won't even allow that.

So if you're thinking about remaining anonymous when you win, time to move or something

Reply #23

Rip Snorter — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:28:05 GMT

It mightn't exactly be thread drift.

Life offers up a lot of surprises as a rule, justx.

One side or another always gets a surprise in any war, or there wouldn't have been one. Usually both sides get a few surprises. Insurance beneficiary buyers got a few surprises when a lot of HIV patients recovered.

One thing that shouldn't surprise any of us any time is human beings capitalizing one way or another on the misery of others.

And it shouldn't be any surprise to any of us if we w... [ More ]

Reply #22

justxploring — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:58:34 GMT

I recall during the early days of HIV, a lot of people who contracted it had life insurance policies. There were businesses who thrived buying beneficiary status those life insurance policies from the folks who were dying of HIV, giving them something up front and betting when they'd make a haul when they claimed the policy.

This is one of the things I hate about money. Let's bet that we'll make a fortune on other people's misery. It was also common practice to sell insurance polic... [ More ]

Reply #21

CalifDude — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:21:45 GMT

Once again, you need to check with your state. The state of California will not keep your name secret. They will allow you to claim the prize in the name of the trust, but the trust must be a California trust. As far as the corporation or LLC, I would have to check, but I don't think they allow that in California. It has to be an individual and as far as the law is concerned a trust is an individual for most purposes but a corporation or LLC is not.

Actually, I think most of this discussi... [ More ]

Reply #20

rdc137 — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:52:50 GMT

In such case as Louisiana where an LLC can claim a prize, use a Delaware LLC formed by an incorporation service. Your name will not appear in any public records, yet you have 100% control of the LLC, as after the firm forms it, they sign over the rights to you.

Reply #19

PrisonerSix — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:12:21 GMT

When others say "remain anonymous," they don't necessarily mean the money can be claimed without your name ever being released.

In some states, mine(Louisiana) being one of them, the Lottery allows prizes to be claimed not only be individuals but by trusts and corporations. If your state allows this, it could be considered "remaining anonymous." Even though data for who is part of a corporation, LLC, etc. is often public record, it can provide some level of anomymity.

Alot of people don... [ More ]

Reply #18

Rip Snorter — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 05:23:24 GMT

One of the solid arguments for wanting to retain anonimity seems to me to lie in the fact that on these threads about it there's always some smooth talker who has a strong opinion a person shouldn't attempt to do so.

Enough people evidently feel the need to tell others how stupid it is to worry about it to cause a person to wonder if they're not among those who'd be sending you spam afterward, or trying to sell you on various ways to invest, or just simply trying to get into your pocketbook.... [ More ]

Reply #17

bellyache — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:05:31 GMT

Well if given the choice I would claim it anonymously. But if I can't, it will not stop me from picking up my prize.

Reply #16

Uff Da! — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:26:43 GMT

DoubleDown said:

. . . and there will be no safety issues . . .

For you, perhaps. But for any older woman living alone, there are ALWAYS safety issues. For a WEALTHY older woman living alone, there would be big time safety issues. And I'm a loner, so I don't want other people around at this stage of life. Yet the money would be nice.

Everyone's situation is not alike.

Because of other factors, I'm still not sure if I'd claim a jackpot anonymously or not.... [ More ]

Reply #15

DoubleDown — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:43:16 GMT

If the Jackpot is big enough, trust me ...I can be very hard to find on my 100 acre, highly secure compound with an unlisted number.

My family, which I love, will be blessed with never having to work again, and there will be no safety issues, nor will there be any leeches, unless they can get thru my shark attorney first.

Just my .02 worth...

DD

Reply #14

spy153 — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:29:45 GMT

can you remain anonymous in tn

Reply #13

fxsterling — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:06:08 GMT

Louisiana lets you hide I just hope I could keep my mouth shut But the best thing one could do is hide I know people change on you ,when money is in play

Reply #12

pacattack05 — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:03:57 GMT

It's just the law of A reaction to every action.

Time relies on movement of objects. If nothing moves, there is no such thing as time. It's all one.....The Now.....

Just like GOD

Reply #11

Rip Snorter — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:47:41 GMT

Rundown and anyone else interested in the issue:

As I understand things, a lottery ticket belongs to the person who signs it. Which would mean it can be sold, unsigned, to anyone who'd care to buy it, payable after the ticket is claimed, for any price that can be agreed to by both parties.

I recall during the early days of HIV, a lot of people who contracted it had life insurance policies. There were businesses who thrived buying beneficiary status those life insurance policies from the... [ More ]

Reply #10

awwcrap — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:46:52 GMT

Well taken advice ty rundown---good post

Reply #9

Rip Snorter — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:33:41 GMT

I'm not scared of anything, to the best of my knowledge, Jackpot Player. But what he's saying isn't a joke to a lot of people on LP. And you thinking a person should quit if he's concerned about it is worth roughly the price of a bucket of spit.

If people choose to be concerned about such things it certainly isn't for someone who thinks differently to feel the need to concern himself about it.

Jack

Reply #8

Rip Snorter — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:25:10 GMT

Rundown:

Seems to me it's good advice you're offering, whether the jackpot is large or small. There are dozens of side-issues involved on a jackpot (or significant tier-win) going outside the boundaries a person would normally think of.

Letting people know your business, particularly financially, but on just about anything at all, doesn't serve any useful purpose most of the time. I've encountered it on such things as mining claims (which are supposed to protect the claim-holder) and fou... [ More ]

Reply #7

Kola — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:04:40 GMT

Thanks for the thread rundown99.

I have thought about this at length, and I would also keep it quiet from everyone. but my lady had a better idea. She says that if she won, she would tell her family, but she would quote a much lower figure. Maybe $90,000 or so. That would justify some of the life changes people would see you go through and satisfies any questions about the money won. Poeple would tend to leave you alone and not bother you with just a lowly $90,000.

Reply #6

rundown99 — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:46:12 GMT

Good point Lucky146

It would be hard to keep it a secret if the jackpot was extremely high. It depends on how good the winner is in keeping secrets.

Reply #5

lucky146 — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:28:40 GMT

Nice post rundown. I basically agree with it but I think it would be extremely challenging not to tell anyone. (close friends/family). Jackpot size is certainly a factor in how I would handle it though. I mean if you walk with $50 mil good luck keeping it under the covers.

Reply #4

LOTTOMIKE — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:58:17 GMT

i hope i end up with these issues,lol

Reply #3

CalifDude — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:55:49 GMT

It won't work in California. Here is what the California Lottery has to say about that:

As a state agency, the California Lottery is subject to public disclosure laws that allow access to certain governmental records. Your name, the name and location of the retailer who sold the winning ticket, the date you won, and the amount of your winnings, including your gross and net installment payments, are matters of public record and are subject to disclosure.

Reply #2

bellyache — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:53:54 GMT

I agree with your post rundown, but in some states it is impossible to remain completely anonymous. Especially if the jackpot is huge. There are ways to make yourself dull and not interesting during the interview, but your name is bound to come out if your state lottery does't allow anonymity.

Reply #1

emilyg — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:45:06 GMT

good advice. never tell.

Why It Is Important to Remain Anonymous.

rundown99 — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:39:36 GMT

This is undoubtedly one of the most important posts that you will ever see at Lottery Post, and as someone who has posted on here for years, I honestly suggest that you read this very carefully!

For months, I thought about what I would do if I won the lottery, and what my life would be like. I thought about where I would want to buy my tickets. Sometimes, I would think about being anonymous. Sometimes, I would think about whether to hold a news conference if I couldn't be anonymous i... [ More ]