how far back do you go.

Reply #22

mchpick3! — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:29:23 GMT

Depending on the state go back 3 draws I play in Va though.. Good luck

Reply #21

Just6ntlc — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 13:43:43 GMT

In CA SLP, I go back to all the draws past history. Also, I usually look at historic dates from that day to make my actual picks. I also use draw results to make my picks.

Reply #20

MillionsWanted — Tue, 04 Jul 2006 16:51:29 GMT

Thanks. I've already read that website. It's not like they got any good things to say.

I don't feel the need to defend my choice. My preliminary tests with it before as shareware was enough to make me want to test it further and buy it.

Reply #19

WIN D — Tue, 04 Jul 2006 16:27:57 GMT

I m pedaling backwards!

Here is an opposite opinion on that software. Just for the record. I liked the concept..... on the surface it looked like a good new approach.

http://perversiontracker.com/archives/000360.html

Reply #18

takeitez — Tue, 04 Jul 2006 14:04:59 GMT

The game also needs imagination!

ez

Reply #17

sook7b — Tue, 04 Jul 2006 13:33:06 GMT

hi well i dont have 10 fish bowls but i have 10 ballcaps, i will try today for pk3 , getterdone.

Reply #16

takeitez — Tue, 04 Jul 2006 13:01:57 GMT

I consider each ball machine to have the same chance;

Look at it this way; line up 10 fish bowls with 10 ping pong balls in each. There are 10 numbers, we will give each a chance to be drawn.

OOOOOOOOOO (<... fish bowls )

now draw 1 ball from each; draws were 4, 5, 2, 8, 2, 0, 1, 3, 2, 6

the 7 and 9 were not drawn, I consider them to be hot, the 2 was drawn 3 times,

I consider it worn out or cold.

But this is not written in stone! A lot of factors or filters must stil... [ More ]

Reply #15

sook7b — Tue, 04 Jul 2006 11:57:08 GMT

ok i dont when ky replace there ballset so i will start on 5 games back for pk3,pk4, cashball.

Reply #14

BobP — Sun, 02 Jul 2006 05:46:04 GMT

You never go further back then the last time they replaced all the ballsets with new ones. They usually do this every two to four years depending on game and how often it draws. Same goes when they change the size of the game, unless you can get solid information they added balls without replacing the ballsets. Most lottery software want you to use between 10 and 100 past draws, you work out what works best because every game is different.

BobP

Reply #13

guesser — Sun, 02 Jul 2006 04:50:20 GMT

I go back to only as far as the last wholesale ball set change.

With Powerball, they use 4 totally different sets of white balls, and 4 totally different sets of red balls.

They use one of the four sets for every evening of drawings, but they do not announce which set or machine beforehand.

To me, it makes no sense to go back any further than the last ball change.

For an example, a few sets ago, Powerball #9 hit 6 times, then they changed sets, and it didn't hit even once,... [ More ]

Reply #12

sook7b — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 22:55:52 GMT

thank you for the replys. i did not think i would get this many. iam going to save this in my favorites. there are so much to read here onlottery post.

Reply #11

Raven62 — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 18:56:07 GMT

As far as Lotto Sorcerer is concerned, the top

third hottest numbers are considered hot; the bottom third

numbers are considered cold; and the remainder are considered

"non-hot/non-cold".

Lotto Sorcerer is unique in that it tests every possible combination of

strategy to determine the best strategy to use. This process would have

been considered impractical just a few years ago, but today's personal

computers are capable of computational speeds that once were possible

only with superco... [ More ]

Reply #10

MillionsWanted — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 18:48:55 GMT

I go back 120 draws since my main lottery software at the moment, Lotto Sorcerer allow 120 draws as maximum for a 6/48 with 2 bonus numbers.

At the moment I am testing this software both for real and with back testing. To get a good chance at winning divisions on this software it seems to be necessary to use 16-18++ number wheels. Won a 5th division with the program this week with a 18 number wheel with 42 combinations. Not good enough of course, but I hope for some 4th division wins during t... [ More ]

Reply #9

derek7 — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 17:57:20 GMT

Greetings!

I tried 4 draws (for P3 P4), 30 draws (p3,4) and for jackpot games: 12 draws, 50 draws, 150 draws, 200 drwas, ALL draws.

No luck for me!

...yet!

Derek

Reply #8

Rip Snorter — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 17:54:05 GMT

Nice thread, sook.

I'm giving it a bump.

J

Reply #7

Coin Toss — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 17:33:24 GMT

I'm not sure about how far back you should go (I'm assuming you're talking about back-testing, or spotting trends- due numbers, etc...) but I am sure about if you go back far enough you'll reach a point where every number has hit just about an equal number of times.

For example, 1 may not hit as the Mega-Millions or Powerball number for months, and then hit three times in a row, or five draws out of six or so. It all balances out over time if you give it enough time.

When Mega Million... [ More ]

Reply #6

GASMETERGUY — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 17:21:04 GMT

For a Pick 5 game with 37,38,39, or 40 numbers, I go back 40 draws. For a P5 game with 30 or so numbers, I go back 30. Of course, this going back is solely for the purpose of determining frequency within that specific time frame.

And frequency will determine the hot and cold numbers for my system . I have discovered, however, that, in going back, doubling the number of draws gives me a differenct set of hot/cold numbers.

I have therefore concluded that Quick Picks are the way to g... [ More ]

Reply #5

bellyache — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 17:10:00 GMT

It depends on the method I use sometimes I go back 5 drawings, sometimes more. I also sometimes uses dates that go back a few years.

Reply #4

sook7b — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 16:06:18 GMT

hi , well i try to play pick 3, and ky. cashball, some times powerball. i really dont like powerball because of the odds are so greate . well i all so play a mix of even odd numbers when comes to hot and cold i am at a lost. thank you for answers.

Reply #3

Raven62 — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 15:44:35 GMT

In random drawings, all numbers should be drawn an equal number of

times. For example, if you have a lottery consisting of a pool of 48

numbers, and six numbers are picked from each drawing, then after 80

drawings every number should have been picked ten times: (6x80/48=10).

If a number has been picked more than ten times, that number is said to

be a "hot" number. A number picked less than ten times is said to be a

"cold" number. In a true random drawing, the long-run odds of a

cold numbe... [ More ]

Reply #2

Rick G — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 15:32:20 GMT

It depends on the game. I use 50 draws for jackpot type games and 10 draws for pick 3 & 4 type of games.

Reply #1

Rip Snorter — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 15:16:29 GMT

Morning to you.

I hope you get a lot of response to this question. There's a wide body of viewpoints.

I've tried a lot of different approaches, but none have gone back some specific number of draws. I use times and events of the past, lunar and various others, in trying to make picks.

Some worked well, others less so. None, as yet, have proven to be the key I'm looking for, the be all and end all.

J

how far back do you go.

sook7b — Sat, 01 Jul 2006 15:00:35 GMT

when picking out numbers how far does one go back, 10 or 20 or 50 games ? i have not found any yet.