How to Win as Much Money with "boxed hits" as with "straight hits"...

Reply #24

EXCALIBUR — Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:36:41 GMT

You are welcomed, both the Lottery Systems forum and the Pick 3 forum have a lot of info on the old posts there.

For info on pick 3 filters look for old posts by LANTERN, I was HE now I am back to being only EXCALIBUR, LANTERN is no more ever again.

Reply #23

doughnuts — Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:11:49 GMT

Hi Excalibur!

Thanks so much for being so kind to

clarify further. I guess I need to do

a lot of reading/studying older threads

here so I don't feel dumb when seniors

like you are exchanging ideas.

I appreciate it Excalibur. Good luck

to you too

Reply #22

EXCALIBUR — Sun, 13 Aug 2006 07:25:30 GMT

Mea culpa!

My explanation was really wrong, sorry!

Anyhow, a $1 boxed bet will never pay the same as a $1 straight bet, and to bet box you really don't need to bet in all six ways, one X 6 is good enough, it will be the same as if you had placed bets on all six ways.

Six ways betting is only for straight, to win straight in one of the six bets.

I was not thinking straight. Sorry again.

As to:

The Straight Side.

Same condition as above, that is, 3 digit

outcome is known. Ques... [ More ]

Reply #21

Blackapple — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:28:15 GMT

Until positional play is

grasped methodically

like Lotterologist and Casho,

lets gets some scratch

without hugh risks

Reply #20

doughnuts — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:12:17 GMT

Thanks Excalibur for explaining.

Ok assume there is a site that would accept

$16.666 ($1.00/6) bet and that I know the

next 3 digit draw outcome.

The Box Side.

So I'd bet 6-way box on those 3 digits and

then win 6 individual prices which are all

together equivalent to the price of a straight

win on $1 bet.

The Straight Side.

Same condition as above, that is, 3 digit

outcome is known. Question is which among

the 6 available combos should I place my $1

straight bet on... [ More ]

Reply #19

EXCALIBUR — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:31:14 GMT

I second that.

Reply #18

EXCALIBUR — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:24:30 GMT

For that to be possible first you would have to know which 3 digits will be drawn.

Then find a place where you can place 16.666 Cents bets.

The bet six ways boxed on the number like:

ABC, ACB, BCA, BAC, CAB and CBA.

Simple enough.

The problem is finding a site where they take 16 Cents bets.

And the bigger problem is knowing which 3 digits will come out next.

Good luck.

Reply #17

doughnuts — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 01:31:51 GMT

Oh man. I m lost here. I could be wrong, I dunno. I reckon topic says i can have same winnings either boxed or straight hits. Please tell, if I have only $1.00 bet money, how can I bet it box-wise so that it can win as if hitting straight-wise (Pick 3)?

Oh man. I wish road is cleaned of tar. Let the civil spar finish so the finer butterfly (both of them undoubtedly are fine) can lead us to where the sweet flower is.

Reply #16

cps10 — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:47:48 GMT

Interesting topic. I am a little confused, though, but then again, I do tend to work a lot with Ricky ;) You know I'm kidding, Ricky!

I would love to hit straights or boxes, it doesn't matter to me. Just as long as there is a profit at the end. And that's what my progressive betting strategy does for me.

Reply #15

Rick G — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:19:57 GMT

Amen, brother. Well put.

I think I'd like li'l Win d. Sounds like a cool kid to hang out with. The two of us just might have been able to pull the butterflies out of the tar if we had worked together on it.

Reply #14

WIN D — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:09:43 GMT

When I was a little fella..... little Win d many years ago.... my favorite thing was to chase and play with butterflies. Where I was brought up there was a particularly beautiful and colorfully patterned group of butterflies. They were my favorite.

One day I went to cross the road and saw a horrible thing. Two of my favorite butterflies were fighting and pulling each other down and both of them got stuck in the Tar on the road. I tried to help. That was a mistake. It would have been better... [ More ]

Reply #13

Todd — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:48:40 GMT

Reply #12

paurths — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:20:30 GMT

Such a condition ?

LOL I think you're the one who's taking it personal, it's not about what i like, it's about common rules .

Everyone's a winner, isn't it... except for the box player, or the low budget player, considered to be less intelligent.

I have no desire to continue any discussion in this thread, no doubt that won't be considered a problem lol

cheers good luck

Ricky

ps: doesn't this thread belong in the pick3 section, since it involves pick3? lol... [ More ]

Reply #11

stefan — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:09:11 GMT

Ok,

My mistake. That happens when one prefers to play online. Boxed play is possible in Belgium.

Ricky,

Anyone considers playing 30 numbers straight more profitable than playing those 30 numbers each way they come when you hit. (How can it not be with such a condition ?) But the message in my first post was this... (notice that I added 6 straights as well)

If I would bet $6 on 1 boxed unmatched combo , or $3 on 2 boxed doubles each, or $1 on 6 triples each, or $1 on any 6 straig... [ More ]

Reply #10

paurths — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:42:46 GMT

Hi,

uh? In Belgium pick3 can't be played boxed?

Perhaps it has changed recently then, i don't play it anymore here now that there 's betslips and such, but i recall winning some boxed here.

From the official website:

4 voorbeelden van 3 cijfers.

1) U kruist de cijfers 4, 2, 7 aan en het vakje in wanorde . U zet 1 EUR in. De cijfers die worden getrokken zijn 4, 2, 7. Dan wint u 80 EUR!

2) U kruist de cijfers 4, 2, 7 aan en het vakje de twee eerste . U zet 1 EUR in. De cijfers... [ More ]

Reply #9

stefan — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:26:35 GMT

Hi Excalibur and Derek7,

Here in Belgium, pick 3 can't be played boxed . So we have to do this artificially by playing 6 or 3 straights, depending on which type of combo (unmatched or doubles). Your point about Texas and Illinois Pick 3 is a good one, though. In that case, I wouldn't bet $6 on one boxed combo. I would prefer to place my bets the artificial way .

In my first post, I made a point (you can win as much money with boxed hits as with straight hits ...), that's all. Somebo... [ More ]

Reply #8

EXCALIBUR — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:20:13 GMT

Stefan, Hi!

Yes, Ricky is right, it was a little rude to say that, not that I haven't been rude myself more than just a few times.

Here on Texas if you win boxed you get $80 for a $1 ticket.

So 80 x 6 = $480

If you win straight yiu get $500.

So with 1 straight, you win $20 more than you would with playing 6 boxed combos.

Which of them is best for you to play? Whichever you can predict best at a particular time or for a particular draw.

The truth is that there is more money... [ More ]

Reply #7

paurths — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 06:51:21 GMT

Hi Stefan,

are you joking or something?

Where exactly did hate come in to the thread here?

You wrote

I've seen too many posts here that make the less intelligent players believe there's more money to be made with straight hits than with boxed hits .

Yes, i do believe that there is more money to be made with straight hits rather than with box hits.

So, consequently, i must be in that group that you call the less intelligent players .

It's pretty basic, no?

If s... [ More ]

Reply #6

Raven62 — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 01:04:22 GMT

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Reply #5

stefan — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 01:03:45 GMT

Did I start this post with Hi Ricky ? I don't know why you take this so personal, Ricky. I am just sharing my knowledge here. I don't care if you like or hate me, but please, if you disagree with me, explain PUBLICALLY why my post is not mathematically correct.

Best regards,

Stefan

Reply #4

paurths — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:54:21 GMT

lol That is most likely because i belong to that less intelligent group

Reply #3

derek7 — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:49:07 GMT

It gets more difficult when you have only $1-$5 to spend. :)

Also, spending 6 dollars on COMBO (unmatched) is not the same as spending 6 dollars on box (unmatched). COMBO is just few straights on one piece of papaer. Besides before I spend 6 USD on boxed ticket, it is really tempting to spend less and buy some other boxed tickets in addition.

Also when you play local P3 game, it pays less for 6 boxes. 6 x $80 = $480 (not $500 like for a straight)

/derek7

Reply #2

stefan — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:42:30 GMT

Ricky,

I am afraid you didn't read my post very clearly. I you did , I am sure you wouldn't have posted this reply.

Stefan

Reply #1

paurths — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:30:08 GMT

I've seen too many posts here that make the less intelligent players believe there's more money to be made with straight hits than with boxed hits .

I belong to the category of the less intelligent.

I always thought that if you have for example 25 6-ways you wanna play, and play them straight, when you hit you have $900 - $26 = $874

If i would play them in each format straight, or just 6 times boxed, then i would still win $900, but $900 - $150 = $750

cheers

Ricky

How to Win as Much Money with "boxed hits" as with "straight hits"...

stefan — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:05:17 GMT

I've seen too many posts here that make the less intelligent players believe there's more money to be made with straight hits than with boxed hits .

Let me put things straight here...

Pick 3 is a straight game : there are 1000 possible straight outcomes [000-999].

To win a pick 3 game, a player not only has to predict the 3 winning digits (1st condition), the order in which the digits are drawn matters as well (2nd condition). So unless a triple is expected to come up, a pl... [ More ]