Pick 4 Short Sums Chart

Reply #70

cps10 — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:02:02 GMT

Not as good a return on SC Evening, but hey, good enough in my opinion!!!

Quad A

Quad BSC Eve

Quad C

Quad D

QuadrantBetWinDrawDown

7/30/20068806C

7/31/20063433

8/1/20069973

8/2/20065351C

8/3/20060084A

8/4/20069201A

8/5/20066604A

8/6/20063713D

8/7/20063959 B

8/8/20068570CB

8/9/20066040AB

8/10/20060883BB351399

8/11/20062677 D

8/12/20062721CD

8/13/20061867CD

8/14/20063734 D

8... [ More ]

Reply #69

cps10 — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:53:39 GMT

Now the results for OHIO EVENING:

Quad A

Quad BOH Eve

Quad C

Quad D

QuadrantBetWinDrawDown

7/25/20068664

7/26/20060504A

7/27/20069614C

7/28/20060255A

7/29/20065284

7/31/20060469B

8/1/20063273 D

8/2/20067419CD

8/3/20063925 D

8/4/20061524CD

8/5/20063612CD

8/7/20067681CD

8/8/20064732 D

8/9/20061463CD

8/10/20062895 D

8/11/20069419DD6001650

8/12/20064019AA28392

8/14/20069615CB... [ More ]

Reply #68

cps10 — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:52:00 GMT

Okay Chaz...this might be what we are looking for. Now keep in mind this is a $1 bet per number...not $0.25 like most are accustomed to. But that being said, here are the results for the COMBINED ZERO/ONE chart with singles double triples for OHIO EVENING:

First the chart:

A0A1A2A3A4 B5B6B7B8B9

01270128012901390149 01590123012401250126

01360137013801480158 01680169017901340135

01450146014701570167 02490178026901890234

02350236015602380239 02580259027802790289

03890245... [ More ]

Reply #67

cps10 — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:36:20 GMT

That's cool...we can fine-tune it based on how the testing works. As for now, it looks like we have completed the grid for the ZERO/ONE involving doubles and trips and singles.

Reply #66

WIN D — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:30:11 GMT

Well.... I am pretty much out of ideas for now as to what form it should take. All my most recent stuff is already posted up there as far as Sums and Zero one stuff. Anything else would come form testing I reckon. Guess its a matter of testing them in action.

Like the man says.... we can be effective now..and efficent later

Reply #65

cps10 — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:45:33 GMT

This way...you can kind of balance the low and high numbers from left to right. Plus you know that if there is a 0 in it, good chance it's in A or B...a 1 and it's probably in C or D.

Reply #64

cps10 — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:43:38 GMT

And for Triples:

A0A1A2A3A4 B5B6B7B8B9

00010002000300040005 00060007000800090111

0222033304440555 066607770888

C0C1C2C3C4 D5D6D7D8D9

09991112111311141115 11161117111811191222

133314441555 1666177718881999

Reply #63

cps10 — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:39:54 GMT

Here is what I suggested with the doubles...what do you think?

A0A1A2A3A4 B5B6B7B8B9

00120013001400150016 00170018001900230024

00250026002700280029 00340035003600370038

00390045004600470048 00490056005700580059

00670068006900780079 00890112011301140115

01160117011801190122 01330144015501660177

01880199022302240225 02260227022802290233

02440255026602770288 02990334033503360337

03380339034403550366 03770388039904450446

04470448044904550466 04770488049905560557

Reply #62

WIN D — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:39:39 GMT

By the way..... 7462 hit in New York last night ! NON Zero/one group that was due. Non-Elephant.. LOL

After 5 in a row from the 0/1 group it was time. Sum # 9

Reply #61

cps10 — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:39:30 GMT

Well, that's no problem...like I had before...the Singles, Doubles Triples in one grid. It works fine...just need a big bankroll.

What I was wanting to proceed on ZERO/ONE division of doubles and triples. We have singles already of course, and that worked nicely with a small bank. I wanted to integrate the others into their own grids and incorporate them into the quad system. Should we just go across with the ZERO/ONE doubles, since there are 192 of them and just slam them one by one across... [ More ]

Reply #60

WIN D — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:23:00 GMT

Can't think of it right now Keith. So... I don't think so..... not and still keep the sums in the correct rows.

We want to experiment with 3 oldest or missing sums stuff anyway.....so lets do that for a while. Vertical only...we already have that.

Plus..... we could keep the doubles and singles the way they are in vertical lines and number the horizontal lines anyway. Number them 1 through 22 for singles..... just keeping in mind that horizontal lines 21 and 22 are not equal to the re... [ More ]

Reply #59

cps10 — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:02:32 GMT

Very nice...I have been working on a doubles chart for the ZERO/ONEs, but can't balance them out into quads...same with Triples. Think that is something that can be done

Reply #58

WIN D — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:28:56 GMT

Good ! Sum 4 in ILL hit in the 2nd night. Of the due sums 4,,,8,,0,, the sum 4 was not my first choice.

It hit as a double ..... 4767 = short sum 4

At the bottom of the column as expected ...and a NON Zero/One fella. Also good. If we had gone with doubles sums 4,,,8,,0 and only played the NON zero/ones numbers at the bottom of the chart that would have been.... 39 numbers. 39x.25=9.75 per night x2 .... net about 80 bucks

0019 0029 0039 0012 0013 0014 0015 0016 0017 001... [ More ]

Reply #57

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:31:11 GMT

Should be interesting regardless...

Reply #56

WIN D — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:21:51 GMT

or..... we could do it both ways. One way would concentrate on Balance only..... regardless of Sum position. It would be easy if we took the odd ones at the bottom and just stuck them where we wanted. Regardless of Sum.

Maybe we could leave them pretty much like they are up above and keep them in Sums order ...10 columns for the singles and 10 under neath for the Doubles.

Leaving it that way we could also keep the Zero Ones at the Tops of the 2 charts. Easy tracking and spotting usin... [ More ]

Reply #55

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:06:04 GMT

I guess if we divide each of them into quads...without combining them and then balancing them out that way, then we could still do the same tracking that I have been doing...i.e., 8/1/06 is in Quad A (whether it be double, triple, single, etc), 8/2/06 is Quad B, 8/3/06 is Quad C, then bet on Quad D, all of them, etc. I will work on this tonight.

Reply #54

Raven62 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:58:47 GMT

LOL! But if you copy and paste it into Wordpad it turns out OK!

PS: The Grid is 3 by 3=9 Sectors

Reply #53

WIN D — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:52:28 GMT

Bless your heart Raven .... your stuff looks like crap too! Just like mine..LOL At least we try ....right?

Well.... if we stick with just the 2 charts one on top of the other with 10 sums ... Mayber the Zero/Ones colored blue or something at the tops.....Doubles and Singles... thats 5,040 + 4,320 doubles = 9,360 of the 10,000 covered right....? Thats enough right...

we will just lose on those other days ! LOL

Reply #52

WIN D — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:36:15 GMT

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

0127 0128 0129 0139 0149 0159 0123 0124 0125 0126

0136 0137 0138 0148 0158 0168 0169 0179 0134 0135

0145 0146 0147 0157 0167 0249 0178 0269 0189 0234

0235 0236 0156 0238 0239 0258 0259 0278 0279 0289

1234 0245 0237 0247 0248 0267 0268 0359 0369 0379

0389 1235 0246 0256 0257 0348 0349 0368 0378 0469

0479 0489 0345 0346 0347 0357 0358 0458

Reply #51

WIN D — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:31:00 GMT

I think we have to split them ....one on top of the other. Singles on Top...doubles on bottom. Still in rows of the 10 sums.

Just number the singles horizontal lines ....1 through 20 ...just leave the odd ones hang maybe.

Then under that do another Quads charts for doubles ...still in 10 rows of sums .....again only using an even number of horizontal lines... leave the odd ones hang.

This way.... all the zero ones numbers will always be at the ToPs of the charts .....but still

Reply #50

Raven62 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:24:27 GMT

EEEO-LLLH (54) EEEO-LLHH (54) EEEO-LHHH (35)

GRD06 V060 V061 V062 V063 V064 V065 V066 V067 V068 V069 GRD07 V070 V071 V072 V073 V074 V075 V076 V077 V078 V079 GRD08 V080 V081 V082 V083 V084 V085 V086 V087 V088 V089

H0601 None 0029 None 0049 None 0005 None 0007 None 0009 H0701 None 0056 None 0058 None 0069 None 0089 None 0289 H0801 None 0588 None 0689 None 0889 No... [ More ]

Reply #49

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:50:05 GMT

Okay...these latest grids seem a little messed up....very unbalanced on the bottom...heavily towards C quadrant than D...I will have to work on those a little bit....any help would be good

Reply #48

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:33:36 GMT

And the progressions:

DrawSGL BetUnitDBL BetUnitTPL BetUnitIf LossIf SGL WinIf DBL WinIf TPL WinQuadrant A0/1 S/D/T

1$35 1$48 1$9 1($92)$283 $658 $2,158 Quadrant D

2$35 1$48 1$9 1($184)$191 $566 $2,066

3$35 1$48 1$9 1($276)$99 $474 $1,974

4$35 1$48 1$9 1($368)$7 $382 $1,882

5$70 2$48 1$9 1($495)$255 $255 $1,755

6$70 2$48 1$9 1($622)$128 $128 $1,628

7$70 2$48 1$9 1($749)$1 $1 $1,501

8$105 3$96 2$9 1($959)$166 $541 $1,291

9$140 4$96 2$9 1($1,204)$296 $296

Reply #47

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:31:42 GMT

Okay guys gals...here is one last chart...I tried to balance as best I could...here is the ZERO/ONE chart with SINGLES, DOUBLES TRIPLES!

A0A1A2A3A4 B5B6B7B8B9

01270128012901390149 01590123012401250126

01360137013801480158 01680169017901340135

01450146014701570167 02490178026901890234

02350236015602380239 02580259027802790289

03890245023702470248 02670268035903690379

04790489024602560257 03480349036803780469

05690579034503460347 03570358045804590478

06680001000... [ More ]

Reply #46

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:29:53 GMT

You are correct

Reply #45

WIN D — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:50:42 GMT

Before we forget.... remember that ILL Eve deal for tonight. Sums 4,,,8,,,0 needed. Digits in first 3 spots.... 0,,9,,2,, needed.

Here are the last draws ....non Zero/one group numbers in Bold

8661 6232 4958 1876 2030 5806 8015 2233 3784 0064 7486 4709 8092 4669 0016 0829 6102 8764 3180 9809 6593 7668 8337 1279 1632 8463 4530 4450 4380 1387 8180 ...?...

With a Non zero/one number due..... I guess I'm partial to the numbers toward the bottom of the Short Sums chart for tonig... [ More ]

Reply #44

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:30:13 GMT

SOUTH CAROLINA EVENING....again, not much of an opp yet, but it will come around:

Quad A

Quad B

Quad C

Quad D

QuadrantBetWinDrawDown

7/30/20068806

7/31/20063433

8/1/20069973

8/2/20065351

8/3/20060084

8/4/20069201A

8/5/20066604

8/6/20063713

8/7/20063959

8/8/20068570C

8/9/20066040

8/10/20060883

8/11/20062677

8/12/20062721

8/13/20061867C

8/14/20063734

8/1... [ More ]

Reply #43

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:21:21 GMT

OHIO Evening...not bad here either:

QuadrantBetWinDrawDown

7/25/20068664

7/26/20060504

7/27/20069614C

7/28/20060255

7/29/20065284

7/31/20060469B

8/1/20063273

8/2/20067419C

8/3/20063925

8/4/20061524C

8/5/20063612C

8/7/20067681C

8/8/20064732

8/9/20061463C

8/10/20062895

8/11/20069419

8/12/20064019A

8/14/20069615CD

8/15/20060734AD

8/16/20069460BD

8/17/20068684 D

Reply #42

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:12:26 GMT

And now...the progression:

DrawSGL BetUnitDBL BetUnitTPL BetUnitIf LossIf SGL WinIf DBL WinIf TPL WinZero/One SGL

1$35 1--------($35)$340 ----

2$35 1--------($70)$305 ----

3$35 1--------($105)$270 ----

4$35 1--------($140)$235 ----

5$35 1--------($175)$200 ----

6$35 1--------($210)$165 ----

7$35 1--------($245)$130 ----

8$70 2--------($315)$435 ----

9$70 2--------($385)$365 ----

10$70 2--------($455)$295 ----

11$105 3--------($560)$565 ----

12$105 3

Reply #41

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:09:53 GMT

Okay...drum roll please....here is the singles chart with only 0 and/or 1 in them. I balanced it out a little...

A0A1A2A3A4 B5B6B7B8B9

01270128012901390149 01590123012401250126

01360137013801480158 01680169017901340135

01450146014701570167 02490178026901890234

02350236015602380239 02580259027802790289

03890245023702470248 02670268035903690379

04790489024602560257 03480349036803780469

05690579034503460347 03570358045804590478

C0C1C2C3C... [ More ]

Reply #40

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:08:50 GMT

It could work out really well eventually.

Reply #39

WIN D — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:04:06 GMT

Yep.... and that was a light month for SC. with only 12 Single number days. Should run more like 15 or so.... single number days per month.

Keith just saw your post about Zero/one's . If I understand ... Yes ,,sure. It might be better to keep them seperate but centered under each other ....so as to use them or include them as an option. But you could still track them on the side ... maybe

Hope I'm getting the idea of it.

Reply #38

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:53:12 GMT

I guess what I meant was taking the singles, doubles and triples together with a 0 and/or 1 in them.

Reply #37

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:48:14 GMT

SOUTH CAROLINA EVENING test....smaller profits, but very manageable as well. I mean, I would take $114 x 48 draws = $5,472 per month anyday, tax-free, wouldn't you? :

Quad A

Quad B

Quad C

Quad D

QuadrantBetWinDrawDown

7/30/20068806

7/31/20063433

8/1/20069973

8/2/20065351

8/3/20060084

8/4/20069201A

8/5/20066604

8/6/20063713

8/7/20063959

8/8/20068570A

8/9/20066040

8/10/20060883

8... [ More ]

Reply #36

WIN D — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:43:56 GMT

Very Nice,,,, Historic ,,,, thanks Keith. A chart for doubles under neath. It would be an option to include or use it .....or not. Same Sums and cut into the 4 quads ....a,b,c,d,

How hard would it be to insert Horizontal lines on those Keith? We could track those hit rates too.

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

0127 0128 0129 0139 0149 0159 0123 0124 0125 0126

0136 0137 0138 0148 0158 0168 0169 017... [ More ]

Reply #35

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:42:25 GMT

OHIO EVENING test...not bad...a small drawdown compared to the other chart...just not as much profit...but very manageable:

Quad A

Quad B

Quad C

Quad D

QuadrantBetWinDrawDown

7/25/20068664

7/26/20060504

7/27/20069614C

7/28/20060255

7/29/20065284D

7/31/20060469BA

8/1/20063273 A

8/2/20067419CA

8/3/20063925DA

8/4/20061524AA110265

8/5/20063612AB

8/7/20067681CB

8/8/20064732DB

8/9/20061463CB

Reply #34

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:35:20 GMT

And the progressions:

DrawSGL BetUnitDBL BetUnitTPL BetUnitIf LossIf SGL WinIf DBL WinIf TPL WinQuadrant ASGL Only

1$53 1--------($53)$322 ----Quadrant D

2$53 1--------($106)$269 ----

3$53 1--------($159)$216 ----

4$53 1--------($212)$163 ----

5$53 1--------($265)$110 ----

6$53 1--------($318)$57 ----

7$53 1--------($371)$4 ----

8$106 2--------($477)$273 ----

9$106 2--------($583)$167 ----

10$106 2--------($689)$61 ----

11$159 3--------($848)$277

Reply #33

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:27:40 GMT

Okay...here is SINGLES ONLY and I balanced them...should look a little better for you:

A0A1A2A3A4 B5B6B7B8B9

01270128012901390149 01590123012401250126

01360137013801480158 01680169017901340135

01450146014701570167 02490178026901890234

02350236015602380239 02580259027802790289

03890245023702470248 02670268035903690379

04790489024602560257 03480349036803780469

05690579034503460347 03570358045804590478

05780678058912370356 04560367046704680568

12341235123612461238... [ More ]

Reply #32

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:26:39 GMT

Chaz

If you can put this chart up for me, I will put it in a format like the giga-sized one from earlier. They we can work it from there.

Keith

Reply #31

WIN D — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:08:03 GMT

Well .... it's a long subject for me to get into here. If you do a search on the Math forum....there is plenty of stuff in there to enjoy on that ..... Big Subject.. and view points..LOL

You would be amazed how many tosses there are in just 1% that can mess up your head and your betting.

Until then,.... here is a basic odds formula for you on the 50/50 odds and probabilities.

You know the odds of a coin toss resulting in heads are 1/2 = 2:1. right? The odds of two consecutive t... [ More ]

Reply #30

floridian — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:56:29 GMT

Win D

I believe the answer to the coin toss question -- If I am reading your question correctly is how many coin tosses to achieve a 99% degree of certainly with a P 1/2.

I believe the answer is 6. Am I close?

Floridian

Navarre, Florida

Reply #29

WIN D — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:43:05 GMT

I don't know Keith...It still seems huge.... for me it just seems too big to handle or bet on. Now ...maybe a Syndicate or betting club group could use it in a long track profit play.

It does seem like a good thing to have for kind of a LONG Range Radar or Early warning system set up. ...for a smaller group.

Knowing me I'm overlooking something. The Singles chart hurts my head as small as it is. Pick 4 is a big darn game.

It surprises me how long a quadrant can go missing for 12 ,... [ More ]

Reply #28

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:00:03 GMT

Let's try this version, Chaz:

A0A1A2A3A4 B5B6B7B8B9

01270128012901390149 01590123012401250126

01360137013801480158 01680169017901340135

01450146014701570167 02490178026901890234

02350236015602380239 02580259027802790289

03890245023702470248 02670268035903690379

04790489024602560257 03480349036803780469

05690579034503460347 03570358045804590478

05780678058906890356 04560367046704680568

00190029067900120789 00140457001605670018

00280038003900490013 00230015002... [ More ]

Reply #27

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:58:45 GMT

I could shrink the font down and repost if you like. I will try that.

Reply #26

cps10 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:56:50 GMT

I will have to look into that as well. Should I do a grid for the Zero/One as well as the regular Grid

Reply #25

WIN D — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:28:29 GMT

< ?.....<<,4107 8641 9261 4801 6039 4938 6729 7263 2437 0348 4253 5963 1802 9450 4082 4372 0614 0138 0492 6843 1495 7352 6938 8642 6472 7901 7461 7293 9172 5029 4109 4106 9310 0741 7368 0348 2780 4589 6153 7816 2037 7154 2360 8167 5028 1239 8621 6435 1280 0689 2465 1279 4135 6085 4758 6840 4167 8061 3278 0541 0364 1365 7435 4307 8403 6209 3670 0981 5820 8650 3047 9456 4920 4795 0713 4915 8291 9658 9581 1379 4872 1508 3602 4083 6971 3129 8023 6904 8245 3981 8973 9238 9176 0673 3875 0632 0169 3950... [ More ]

Reply #24

cps10 — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:21:12 GMT

Whaddya know? The Quadrant A hit tonight is SC...another win!

Quad A

Quad B

Quad C

Quad D

QuadrantBetWinDrawDown

7/30/20068806A

7/31/20063433C

8/1/20069973D

8/2/20065351AB

8/3/20060084AB

8/4/20069201AB

8/5/20066604BB594906

8/6/20063713AC

8/7/20063959DC

8/8/20068570AC

8/9/20066040AC

8/10/20060883BC

8/11/20062677CC3801870

8/12/20062721AD

8/13/20061867CD

8/14/20063734DD202548

8/15/20063... [ More ]

Reply #23

cps10 — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:47:23 GMT

Chaz

I would imagine that the ALL SINGLES chart you put up will have a much easier bankroll to digest. I am looking forward to that one as well

Reply #22

cps10 — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:46:08 GMT

SOUTH CAROLINA EVENING even MORE impressive:

Quad A

Quad B

Quad C

Quad D

QuadrantBetWinDrawDown

7/30/20068806A

7/31/20063433C

8/1/20069973D

8/2/20065351AB

8/3/20060084AB

8/4/20069201AB

8/5/20066604BB594906

8/6/20063713AC

8/7/20063959DC

8/8/20068570AC

8/9/20066040AC

8/10/20060883BC

8/11/20062677CC3801870

8/12/20062721AD

8/13/20061867CD

8/14/20063734DD202548

8/15/20063983CB

8/16/2... [ More ]

Reply #21

cps10 — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:31:14 GMT

Granted...this is an ultra high bankroll, but some people have it. This is what happened the past 30 draws in Ohio Evening:

Quad A

Quad B

Quad C

Quad D

QuadrantBetWinDrawDown

7/25/20068664C

7/26/20060504B

7/27/20069614C

7/28/20060255A

7/29/20065284DD210165

7/31/20060469BB210165

8/1/20063273DC

8/2/20067419CC45330

8/3/20063925DA

8/4/20061524AA45330

8/5/20063612AB

8/7/20067681CB

8/8/20064732DB

8/9/2006... [ More ]

Reply #20

cps10 — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:50:09 GMT

Chaz

Singles will be my next project...I think that can be a money maker as well

Reply #19

WIN D — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:53:35 GMT

Thanks Keith. Enjoy that cold one.

Any..hu ... In the Singles only version of the 210 p4 chart the largest group are the numbers with a Zero or ONe digit or Both.

As you can see ...of the 210 singles there are 140 of those on the chart that have a Zero or One.

The 210 singles are 24 way numbers covering 5,040 of the 10,000 total. So... the 140 x24 = covers...3,360 numbers and the NON-zero/one group make up only 70 box numbers or 70 x 24 =1,680.

5,040 total singles... [ More ]

Reply #18

cps10 — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:16:58 GMT

Will do some testing later on this evening...this should make for an interesting experiment.

Reply #17

cps10 — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:15:43 GMT

Progressions here....

DrawSGL BetUnitDBL BetUnitTPL BetUnitIf LossIf SGL WinIf DBL WinIf TPL WinQuadrant A

1$53 1$90 1$22 1($165)$210 $585 $2,085 Quadrant D

2$53 1$90 1$22 1($330)$45 $420 $1,920

3$106 2$90 1$22 1($548)$202 $202 $1,702

4$159 3$180 2$22 1($909)$216 $591 $1,341

5$212 4$180 2$22 1($1,323)$177 $177 $927

6$318 6$270 3$22 1($1,933)$317 $317 $317

7$424 8$360 4$44 2($2,761)$239 $239 $1,739

8$583 11$540 6$44 2($3,928)$197 $572 $572

9$795 15$720 8

Reply #16

WIN D — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:15:21 GMT

Well.... if it's not a Double ABOUT TO HIT and you want to play a Single number for the next draw it would pay if you made sure your number has a Zero or ONE DIGIT in the number.

Because.....

MOST PICK 4 SINGLES IN THE WORLD DO ...

Keith that was great ! I just saw your version of the grid as I was positing this. Nice

Say Keith.is there any way to make it fit on the page smaller? So you dont have to scroll around so much. All on one view sort of deal. Than... [ More ]

Reply #15

cps10 — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:11:40 GMT

Okay...here is my attempt at a Pick 4 Grid. I have balanced these numbers very well IMHO. I have included only singles, doubles and triples....no doubledoubles and no quads. 165 in each quadrant. Play Bingo. Use the progression I can provide at the next post. Then it's off for a few beers!

A0A1A2A3A4 B5B6B7B8B9

01270128012901390149 01590123012401250126

01360137013801480158 01680169017901340135

01450146014701570167 02490178026901890234

02350236015602380239 02580259027802790289... [ More ]

Reply #14

WIN D — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:59:01 GMT

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

0127 0128 0129 0139 0149 0159 0123 0124 0125 0126 H

0136 0137 0138 0148 0158 0168 0169 0179 0134 0135

0145 0146 0147 0157 0167 0249 0178 0269 0189 0234

0235 0236 0156 0238 0239 0258 0259 0278 0279 0289

1234 0245 0237 0247 0248 0267 0268 0359 0369 0379

0389 1235 0246 0256 0257 0348 0349 0368 0378 0469

0479 0489 0... [ More ]

Reply #13

cps10 — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:32:18 GMT

Otherwise, if you played all 219 numbers, it would have to show soon before losing your arse...

DrawSGL #sBet/UnitUnitsSGL BetDBL #sBet/UnitUnitsDBL BetDBLDBL #sBet/UnitUnitsDBLDBL BetTPL #sBet/UnitUnitsTPL BetQUAD #sBet/UnitUnitsQUAD BetIf LossSGL WinDBL WinDBLDBL WinTPL WinQUAD Win

166$66.00 1$66.00 96$96.00 1$96.00 27$27.00 1$27.00 24$24.00 1$24.00 6$6.00 1$6.00 ($219.00)$156.00 $531.00 $1,281.00 $2,031.00 $8,781.00

266$66.00 2$132.00 96$96.00 1$96.00 27 $27.00 1$27.00 24 $24.0... [ More ]

Reply #12

cps10 — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:31:27 GMT

I wonder how long out these suckers can go? Here is a progression for it:

Draw#sBet/UnitUnitsTotal BetIf LossIf Win

166 $66 1 $66 ($66)$309

266 $66 1 $66 ($132)$243

366 $66 1 $66 ($198)$177

466 $66 1 $66 ($264)$111

566 $66 1 $66 ($330)$45

666 $66 2 $132 ($462)$288

766 $66 2 $132 ($594)$156

866 $66 2 $132 ($726)$24

966 $66 3 $198 ($924)$201

1066 $66 3 $198 ($1,122)$3

1166 $66 4 $264 ($1,386)$114

1266 $66 5 $330 ($1,716)$159

1366 $66 6 $39... [ More ]

Reply #11

WIN D — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:14:33 GMT

Here is the recent stack. Looking at first 3 positions only for just a second. No Zero,,, 0,,,,9,,, 2 Key three out digits. (1st. 3 pos.)

The Sums 0,,,4 and 8 are almost here. Only 66 singles to look at right? Its a 50/50 chance it will show with a single under one of those due sums.

Maybe go back and filter out the most recent single hits under those due sums a bit.

Mon, Aug 28, 20061-3-8- 7

Sun, Aug 27, 20064-3-8- 0

Sat, Aug 26, 20064-4-5- 0

Fri, Aug 25,

Reply #10

cps10 — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:08:56 GMT

Chaz, Raven

I would be inclined to take a look at the 3 longest sums out in each draw and see how quickly they turn up and what their classification is (i.e., single, double, etc). I just bombed a P-4 thing on my own thinking it was the grail...but I ran the progression wrong, so the results didn't come out the way I planned, so back to the drawing board on P-4.

Reply #9

Raven62 — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:03:36 GMT

It'll be interesting to see how this one plays out

Reply #8

cps10 — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:31:46 GMT

Yeah...I would be a little nervous cutting some of those out...but at the very least maybe work it down to the singles only.

Reply #7

WIN D — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:49:39 GMT

Fun Keith. Check out the recent stack as well. We could cut many of those down to size if we subtracted all the digit #4 numbers from the pile because they already hit 4 days in a row. Playing mostly highs would be another way to cull a few perhaps.. or at least ones with Mosly ODD looks good too. Filter ourselves into the ground. LOL

Check out all the lows in 4th. postion.

Sun, Aug 27, 20064-3-8-0

Sat, Aug 26, 20064-4-5-0

Fri, Aug 25, 20064-5-3-0

Thu, Aug 24, 20068-4... [ More ]

Reply #6

cps10 — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:43:28 GMT

Interesting...in ILLINOIS EVENING, the Sums 0 4 8 are out and both are double their average.

Sum 0 out 17 draws; average = 10

Sum 4 out 22 draws; average = 10

Sum 8 out 36 draws; average = 11.35

So, these numbers should hit SOON:

0125, 0127, 0134, 0136, 0145, 0149, 0158, 0167, 0189, 0235, 0239, 0248, 0257, 0279, 0347, 0356, 0369, 0378, 0389, 0459, 0468, 0479, 0567, 0569, 0578, 0789, 1234, 1238, 1247, 1256, 1269, 1278, 1289, 1346, 1359, 1368, 1379, 1458, 1467, 1469, 1478, 1568,

Reply #5

WIN D — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:47:55 GMT

Had to go back and think this a little bit. If we are looking at the vertical sums rows of 20 to 22 numbers each. I believe the expected hit rate will be about 18 hits per Sum ....per year.

Now the horizontal is only about half of that per year... istead of 20 to 22 down ..... we have 10 straight across so thats gonna be around 9 hits per year per horizontal line.

Pick 3 singles are gonna have 262 hit days per year. P-4 is only gonna have 183 hit days per year..... but it pays about 6... [ More ]

Reply #4

cps10 — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:41:15 GMT

WIN D

With roughly 20 numbers in each column, you are looking at about 9 hits per year, or 0.75 hits per month, correct?

Now, with 3 sums out, you should get approx. 2.25 hits per month. So grouping 3 short sums together is probably a good way of approaching it? That would also leave us with 120 different groupings of short sums that could be watched .

Here's a question for you...when analyzing what to play in this situation, would you look for the three Short Sums that are out the LON... [ More ]

Reply #3

cps10 — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:17:24 GMT

WIN D

That's what I was thinking...the 3 oldest sums cannot hide very long at all...especially considering the fact that there are so many repeaters...3 old sums that are adjacent to numbers that hit that are even off my one short-sum is the difference between winning and losing.

Reply #2

WIN D — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:11:45 GMT

The Horizontal lines should hit around 5% of the time a single hits as opposed to the Vertical Sums lines at !0%.

Single should hit about 183 times a year on a 365 days game. Which means each of the vertical Sum lines up there will receive about 18 hits per yr.

The 20 regular... 10 numbered horizontal lines should average around 9 hits across each.

Focus on the 3 oldest Sums .... they can't hide 3 sums very long at all. Especially Short Sums.

Reply #1

WIN D — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:24:22 GMT

Posting charts with this new digital format is still hard to get good results. It should be clear enough to work with at any rate.

This is for singles numbers only. Each column should hit around 10% of the time a single hits. Singles hit about 50% of the time in Pick 4 unlike the 27% in P3.

You could number or letter the regular horizontal lines. The balanced #20 full or complete Horizontal lines of this chart and use those to anticipate hits from those groups too. I just ignore th... [ More ]

Pick 4 Short Sums Chart

WIN D — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:17:03 GMT

Win d's Short Sum chart Pick 4

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

0127 0128 0129 0139 0149 0159 0123 0124 0125 0126 H

0136 0137 0138 0148 0158 0168 0169 0179 0134 0135

0145 0146 0147 0157 0167 0249 0178 0269 0189 0234

0235 0236 0156 0238 0239 0258 0259 0278 0279 0289

1234 0245 0237 0247 0248 0267 0268 0359 0369 0379

0389 1235 0246 0256 0257 0348 0349 036... [ More ]